Re: [newbie-it] FTP Client
On Sunday 03 December 2000 23:19, you wrote: Downloader for X (nt): riesco a connettermi al server... ma poi, per scaricare un file??? e' un downloader, ovvero gli devi dire da dove e quale file scaricare. questo puoi farlo o draggandogli un url nel cestino (un' icona a forma di x che appare sul desktop) o coi primi due pulsanti della toolbar il primo ti fa scegliere e devi scrivere o incollare il secondo legge la clipboard (quindi dovrebbe gia' farti vedere il file da scaricare). Le ultime versioni hanno pure l'opzione di "catturare" la clipboard ma ogni volta che selezioni qualcosa ti chiede se vuoi scaricarla. e' praticamente il getright. bye -- Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia www.acidlife.com/aciderror/freefred Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - www.davidebanda.nelweb.net ICQ uin 5887365 - PGP key available on keyservers
[newbie-it] Xsane e librerie grafiche
Sul mio sistema Mandrake 7.2 ho provato ad installare il pacchetto xsane-0.64-1mdk.i586.rpm. Siccome l'installazione richiedeva la dipendenza delle librerie gimp-libgimp-1.1.29 ho provato ad installarle attraverso il pacchetto rpm. E qui nascono i problemi: l'installazione non risulta possibile perchè il sistema denuncia una dipendenza di gimp-1.1.25, sane-1.0.3 e xmorph-2000.03.03 nei confronti delle precedenti librerie libgck-1.1.so.25, libgimp-1.1.so.25, libgimpui-1.1.25. Insomma, non mi è possibile installare la nuova versione gimp-libgimp-1.1.29 - usata da xsane-0.64 - perchè gimp-1.1.25 e sane-1.0.3 necessitano della vecchia versione 1.1.25; il bello è che se provo ad installare annullando il controllo delle dipendenze il sistema segnala errore di conflitto tra la versione 1.1.29 e la 1.1.25. Qualcuno ci capisce qualcosa? Ciao, Daniele.
R: [newbie-it] Sviluppo di Sistema Operativo...help
- Original Message - From: Asgro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 3:45 PM Subject: R: [newbie-it] Sviluppo di Sistema Operativo...help Stò cercando informazioni (anche basilari) per lo sviluppo di un sistema Operativo "semplice" qualcuno può sugg. qualche sito o qualche libro in italiano aggiornato? Scusate è per la maturità Perchè non provi con qualcosa di più semplice? Sviluppare un sistema operativo non è mica come fare un word processor o un database A me servono solo informazioni diciamo teoriche da copiare e incollare :) non ho mica detto che voglio creare un nuovo sistema operativo(almeno non propio) se qualcunaltro può darmene lo ringrazio anticipatamente Beh, sai com'è... Avevo capito male... Comunque il lavoro si prospetta duro e difficile (io per la maturità sto facendo una ricerca su Turing, funzioni computabili, teorema di Godel etc... un casino!). L'unico suggerimento che posso darti è il solito... vai su altavista, yahoo o quello che preferisci e... buona fortuna! (Se speri di trovarle in italiano, sei fregato! Infilacele in inglese così hai una materia in più (interdisciplinare) e probabilmente nessuno si accorgerà se dici cavolate!)
[newbie] My humble apoligies
I recently submitted a post "mandrake's losing it". After doing some reading in a number of files and on mailing lists regarding Bastille Linux I determined without doubt that the problem with not being able to print or to log into the Gnome desktop were actually caused by running the Bastille firewall. If you consider using this firewall and like Gmome don't do it. I was not able to find a bugfix for that problem. If anyone knows of a fix please share it with the list. Bastille asks to disable print access to users and I tried two times to allow users to print without success and found nothing about that in my reading so.. anyways sorry for ranting about Mandrake being unstable. Should have RTFM before going off the edge :( -- John Wheat
Re: [newbie] Defrag
Jeff Dickman wrote: This is probably me just being obsessive... Does Mandrake have a defrag program? -JD- Here we go again! NO! - Shouldn't be needed. Search through the archives for this list - there is/are a myriad* explanations as to why. Cheers *(Gr, myrias,myriados, myria, ten thousand, innumerable.) -- ICQ#: 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
[newbie] Installed Mandrake, can't find D drive
Hi All, I just upgraded form RH 6.0 to Mandrake 7.1 on my M$Win95 box and everything went fine. I got my sound card, modem and network card configured without a problem. However, I just noticed when I went install a program on 95 so I could use it via WINE, that my "D" drive is not visable. It is visable on my linux desktop and I can read everything that's on it. Did I hose some kind of regedit file or something, and is this normal? TIA, Michael
Re: [newbie] cannot send mail with kmail
root wrote: Hi all, does anybody have any idea why the kmail "send" button stopped functioning. i use mandrake7.0. thanks for any help. First the obvious. Are your SMTP settings correct? -- Jay ~May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend~ http://www.mrsnooky.com
[newbie] Help - USB Printer - Urgent
I've connected my Epson Stylus 740 using USB to my LM7.2 m/c How do I go about accessing it. (what device do I use?) I used the same printer sucessfully thru lpd (parallel port) on LM 7.1 After upgrading I want to give the USB support a shot. I'm totally blank on the subject. Any pointers on where to start would be appreciated. Thanks, Ashley. ***Disclaimer*** Please note the following points: * This message and any attachments thereto may contain privileged or proprietary information, and are intended for the sole use of the addressee(s). Total or partial reproduction, communication, distribution or use of this information by persons other than the addressee(s) is prohibited. * If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or message and delete the message from any computer. * This message and any attachments have been scanned by Batelco for malicious code on best efforts basis for your protection. Thank you for your cooperation.
[newbie] strange keyboard behavior
Since installing 7.2 (or around that time when I also got a new Microsoft keyboard) I had trouble with the single quote. I had to hit the keyboard rather hard to get it on the screen. Thinking it was a bad key I dismantled the keyboard to clean the contact pads but it was still the same. I then bought a new normal (cheap) keyboard and strangely enough I noticed it had the same problem. It worked fine under windows as well. I then changed the keyboard settings from US International to English, restarted X and it now works fine. Very strange, could it have been a bad US driver install, as I've had no problem with the US setting in the past. Nev.
[newbie] XF4.0.1 install... crashes my KDE.
Hi All. I run 7.2 on a dual celleron 500 (Abit BP6), i have a GeForce 256. And I just crashed the hole thing by installing xf4.0.1. First I installed 4.0.1, and then i got the .tar's from nVidia's site (since the only had RPMs for 7.1), make'd, and tried to start... NO LUCK. X starts but drop me of with an exterm and NO KDE :( If i ad "startkde" to ~/.xinitrc it dies and locks up my machine. So i reinstalled the system. Can someboddy give me a step-by-step on how to get this to work, since i am _dying_ to get my Descent3 up and running under linux to impress all my freinds ;) /kidcat _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Installed Mandrake, can't find D drive
Marlon Guzman wrote: try to install your cd rom driver ok... Okay, I re-installed my driver and everything is still the same. My CD is listed on D and my D drive is still not visable. Michael Lewis Exasource Inc. Phone: 970-206-4556 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Dual Boot
correct -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 Mr Monster had this to say! Hi I think ive been here before Im running W98 and Mandrake 7.2 on my machine... I had problems with Lilo beyond the 1024th cylinder on my second H/D. If I can remember Lilo has to be installed on the MBR of the first hard disk (C:\) I think its meant to be installed on /dev/hda1...??? monster - Original Message - From: "Dave DeGear" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2000 23:35 Subject: [newbie] Dual Boot I have a dual boot computer with W2K and Mandrake 7.2 on it. The Windows boots from drive C: and the Mandrake is on /dev/hdb5 . When it was installing I was asked which drive the Linux was booting from and I said /dev/hdb5. I then made a backup boot disk for the Linux. The problem is that my computer will only boot Linux from the floppy and if I try to boot it from the Lilo in the MBR I get an error message that /dev/hdb5 is not bootable. How do I make my Linux partition bootable so that I won't need to use the rescue diskette to boot it. Both W2K and Linux show up as options in the lilo menu. I have checked the lilo.conf to make sure that the Linux is pointing to /dev/hdb5 and have rerun lilo several times. Thanks. ...Dave
Re: [newbie] Installed Mandrake, can't find D drive
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[newbie] MDK72/CUPS-Paralel port problem
Hi there! i got strange problem - i installed CUPS service ans survey showed that i do not have parallel port initialized - i cant add printers etc. The strange fact is that during the install of MDK72 it is possible to print the test page, but, alas, it is the first and the last time when the printing is possible... - KDE2 device info says, that IRQ7 is not used... (in BIOS LPT1 is set to IRQ7, ECP/EPP, std port nuber (378H (?)). - etc/modules is empty - modprobe parport_probe says that module not found... (but the file .o exists!) Where to start to look?! Jancs Laps Cileecish http://jancs.ktf.rtu.lv
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
And you point is? All you've managed to do is cause a few applications a mild headache and they refused to operate any further. You hadn't cause the actual OS to suffer any hardship. If you're really having that much trouble, then I would suggest one of two things is true. 1) there's something wrong with your installation. Maybe a few packages didn't install completely, or correctly. This can sometimes be due to hardware incompatabilities with Mandrake. 2) there's something wrong with the user and possibly some user re-training is in order. What I said and meant was that under most cirrcumstance, and most including some rather severe working conditions, not ridiculous and purposful attempts at crashing programs from improper use, (tongue in cheek), Linux continually outperforms all other operating systems and remains solid and trustworthy. -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 R. Edward McCain had this to say! On Sun, 03 Dec 2000, you wrote: You are right, of course, Linux is a paradise for coders and programmers, but beyond that truth is another, even bigger truth. That is that Linux is incredibly stable and powerful as a home PC platform as well as a dependable business workstation platform Er, I've managed to crash the entire platform twice and wreak havoc on numerous apps just by playing around in my account (NOT as root) Example: kde control center look and feel screensaver kswarm setup move the 'number of bees' slider to 0 this causes the application to 'crash' Others are less reproducable, but I can cause Kmail to crash by grabbing a email that I cc'ed to myself, replying to it and changing the subject line and body - or something like that. I was being silly and I crashed kmail twice before I got the hint. True, my account didn't terminate on those occasions, but what's a stable platform without stable applications?
Re: [newbie] MandrakeUpdate and librpmio.so.0
I've been having the exact same problem. Have you figured out how to get around this yet? -Paul R U2Zoo wrote: Oops. I spoke too soon. Mandrake 7.2 I am still unable to update rpm (which is where the librpmio.so.0 file that I need lives) using MandrakeUpdate. I get a dependency error, i.e. glibc =2.1.92 is required. I currently have glibc-2.1.3-16mdk.i586.rpm installed. However, when I try to update to glibc-2.2-12mdk.i586.rpm, MandrakeUpdate retrieves the 12MB file and then comes up with the following unhelpful requestor: "Error. Package can't be installed glibc-2.2-12mdk.i586.rpm" How can I find the cause of this error? Will MandrakeUpdate ever work? My brain hurts! Bernie. [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Av...what was so well stated about that. All that proves is that he's able to do embarrase himself in public and mutilate his Penguin. You know what I do with users like that at work? I sit them down and compell them to READ the user manual(s) for the apps that they're proving unable to get along with so that they stop causing such unnecessary trouble! -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 Abraham Pinzur had this to say! Well stated, Ed. I too appreciate the stable platform, but the apps are sometimes a different story. I installed Linux for the express purpose of getting more experience on the nitty-gritty end of things... =) - Av - -- Av Pinzur / Crisp Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Edward McCain Sent: Sunday, 03 December, 2000 22:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux On Sun, 03 Dec 2000, you wrote: You are right, of course, Linux is a paradise for coders and programmers, but beyond that truth is another, even bigger truth. That is that Linux is incredibly stable and powerful as a home PC platform as well as a dependable business workstation platform Er, I've managed to crash the entire platform twice and wreak havoc on numerous apps just by playing around in my account (NOT as root) Example: kde control center look and feel screensaver kswarm setup move the 'number of bees' slider to 0 this causes the application to 'crash' Others are less reproducable, but I can cause Kmail to crash by grabbing a email that I cc'ed to myself, replying to it and changing the subject line and body - or something like that. I was being silly and I crashed kmail twice before I got the hint. True, my account didn't terminate on those occasions, but what's a stable platform without stable applications? -- Yours, R. Edward McCain [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 599146 Registered Linux User #196613
Re: [newbie] Linux v Windows
At present, Linux is still relatively complex to set up and use, however it is progressing at a rapid pace. But until it reaches the point that your average Joe Bloggs (sorry Joe, just picking a name out of the air :) who works in the bakery down the street, can go home, turn on his Linux box that he picked up from his local electrical store, stick in a new game and be up and running in 5 minutes - it just isn't going to be popular to the mainstream public. When that happens I'm going to stop using it and look for something else because when that happens it will not longer "BE" linux, but another stinking icr$sotf wannabe clone.
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
On Mon, 04 Dec 2000, you wrote: yes...Edward...we heard what you said in the first version of this message. all this second message does is further convince us that you should be horse whipped for mistreating your Penguin. Penguin abuse is a very serious offense. The penalty for which is VERY unpleasant. Horse whipped? *interest piqued* er, care to send me your A/S/L and median income? *grin* -- Yours, R. Edward McCain [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 599146 Registered Linux User #196613
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
On Mon, 04 Dec 2000, you wrote: And you point is? All you've managed to do is cause a few applications a mild headache and they refused to operate any further. You hadn't cause the actual OS to suffer any hardship. If you're really having that much trouble, then I would suggest one of two things is true. Hey, I wasn't griping (well, er, no, not really) just pointing out a fact. I don't even have windows (unless you count X) on my machine anymore - that should tell you something right there. -- Yours, R. Edward McCain [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 599146 Registered Linux User #196613
Re: [newbie] Dual Boot
NO This is not correct. LILO as included in 7.2 does not have the 1024 limit. And even if it did this would not effect installing LILO to /dev/hb5. I am running Storm from /dev/hdb5 and I am running 7.2 from /dev/hdc5 and using SystemCommander to boot to any of 5 OSes on that system. Charles (-: - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual Boot correct -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 Mr Monster had this to say! Hi I think ive been here before Im running W98 and Mandrake 7.2 on my machine... I had problems with Lilo beyond the 1024th cylinder on my second H/D. If I can remember Lilo has to be installed on the MBR of the first hard disk (C:\) I think its meant to be installed on /dev/hda1...??? monster - Original Message - From: "Dave DeGear" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2000 23:35 Subject: [newbie] Dual Boot I have a dual boot computer with W2K and Mandrake 7.2 on it. The Windows boots from drive C: and the Mandrake is on /dev/hdb5 . When it was installing I was asked which drive the Linux was booting from and I said /dev/hdb5. I then made a backup boot disk for the Linux. The problem is that my computer will only boot Linux from the floppy and if I try to boot it from the Lilo in the MBR I get an error message that /dev/hdb5 is not bootable. How do I make my Linux partition bootable so that I won't need to use the rescue diskette to boot it. Both W2K and Linux show up as options in the lilo menu. I have checked the lilo.conf to make sure that the Linux is pointing to /dev/hdb5 and have rerun lilo several times. Thanks. ...Dave
[newbie] Linux and digital cameras
Kodak DC240. Inexpensive, great pictures, well supported on linux. I use them in training presentations all the time. Use usb and gphoto, outperforms downloads using windows on same box. Stock Mandrake 7.2 install. Make sure you have usb on in bios. Turn on the usb service at boot time. Edit modules.conf with: alias usb-interface usb-uhci post-install usb-uhci modprobe dc2xx This will start them at boot time. if you don't want to reboot, do above for next boot. don't know if usb is running? Open terminal(console) as root service usb status if not running start it. service usb start modprobe usb-interface modeprobe dc2xx chmod 666 /dev/usb/dc2* This sets the permissions so users other than root have access to the device. Plug the camera in fire up gphoto. configure-select port-camera model Choose kodak dc240 from drop down box port other add /dev/usb/dc24xx0 and go to town. Depending on your usb port and which jack the cable is plugged into it could /dev/usb/dc24xx1 and so on. I know you didn't ask for set up instructions, but I wanted you to see with this camera it took 10 minutes of work to get it going. Hours of research, minutes of work :) http://www.linux-usb.org Will give all you ever wanted to know about what usb devices work with linux
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
yes...Edward...we heard what you said in the first version of this message. all this second message does is further convince us that you should be horse whipped for mistreating your Penguin. Penguin abuse is a very serious offense. The penalty for which is VERY unpleasant. -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 R. Edward McCain had this to say! forwarded as an experiment. This message was bounced earlier. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 22:26:32 -0600 From: R. Edward McCain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 03 Dec 2000, you wrote: You are right, of course, Linux is a paradise for coders and programmers, but beyond that truth is another, even bigger truth. That is that Linux is incredibly stable and powerful as a home PC platform as well as a dependable business workstation platform Er, I've managed to crash the entire platform twice and wreak havoc on numerous apps just by playing around in my account (NOT as root) Example: kde control center look and feel screensaver kswarm setup move the 'number of bees' slider to 0 this causes the application to 'crash' Others are less reproducable, but I can cause Kmail to crash by grabbing a email that I cc'ed to myself, replying to it and changing the subject line and body - or something like that. I was being silly and I crashed kmail twice before I got the hint. True, my account didn't terminate on those occasions, but what's a stable platform without stable applications? -- Yours, R. Edward McCain [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 599146 Registered Linux User #196613 ---
Re: [newbie] Installed Mandrake, can't find D drive
On Monday 04 December 2000 02:18 am, Michael wrote: I just noticed when I went install a program on 95 so I could use it via WINE, that my "D" drive is not visable. It is visable on my linux desktop and I can read everything that's on it. Did I hose some kind of regedit file or something, and is this normal? It's prob'ly not mounted on 'D'. What does (su to root) 'fdisk -l' say?...and then what is the mnt point in 'fstab' for this drive/partition? That will be the path to your app on W95 'D' For example: if fdisk shows that your 'D' partition is /hda5, and in fstab you see that hda5 is mounted on /mnt/win_d, and that 'user' has permission to use this partition, then... cd /mnt/win_d/dir the app is in wine app 'Course this all assumes you've got wine.conf properly edited to reflect your drive/partition locations and that wine can run the Windoze app you're referring to. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux
-Original Message- From: Steven Kinch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 4:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux On Sun, 03 Dec 2000, you wrote: In a message dated 12/1/00 4:54:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: if MS ever decided to distribute a flavor of linux I believe they would give Mandrake, SuSE, RedHat, and etc. a very hard run for their money. I am sorry but I don't have the first clue what you are trying to say. Is a MS distro going to be any better than what we have? My guess is that it would introduce to Linux a new concept like AUTOCRSH EVERY FIVE MINUTES No, my point is that a MS distro will most likely be more usable from a UI point of view, not neccessarily a sysadmin point of view (but probably that too), than any other distro out there for the average Joe user who doesn't care a flying flip about what's under the hood (and why should he?). If he can run IE and MS Office on a higher quality, more stable OS, it's reasonable to believe that Joe user would probably drop his WIN32 installation and install MS Linux because on the surface he couldn't tell the difference except that his "system" appeared to be running better. I know a couple of Windows folk would who do that. But not only would they do it, they freakin' pay for it too! I haven't paid a single cent to Mandrake for any of their hard work, I'm willing to wager that no *average* linux user has or will probably pay any significant amount (if any at all) of money to the vendor of his/her favorite distribution. But the average Window's knuckleheads probably would pay. They'd pay for both the OS or rather the Desktop (since you can't charge for the OS) and the support. But, wouldnt we all just download it off the net for free instead of buying it in a store. I go out and buy the software to support the cause, I wouldnt but a microsoft product if i could download it for free Yes of course we would. Are you some sort of idiot? Probably the "real" linux user would scoff at the distro and refuse to download it anyway. But we keep forgetting that we are not the average computer user. We care at both a technical and philosphical level about the OS we run. This is part of the elitism that I talked about in an ealier post. We have zero compassion for the folks that have weaker aptitudes for computers and technical savy. We'll there's a huge market for those folks and MS exploited it. We make these moral judgements on folks with less technical ability and refuse to contemplate or address their challenges while AOL and MS slips in and these poor, morally depraved users sell their souls to Baelzebub and Satan. I know this is a bit extreme, but it's interesting that only 2 or 3 companies (of all the vast linux community) out there ( HelixGnome, Eazel, KDE(?) ) are addressesing needs of the average user.
Re: [newbie] Linux v Windows
The Point Linux will never win its way into peoples homes until manufacturers decide to start porting their code to linux, so us people at home can use our digicams, scanners etc... just as easy as ever! (without even so much as a chmod etc) why should they wish to do such a thing when they're getting paid by M$ not to do such a thing? I say screw the manufacturers that don't want to play ball and let pay those in the Linux community that "can" and want to write the software we need to run our toys and gadgits. At least that way we'll be sure that the drivers are written correctly and will work. Actually, it does not matter how it happens, - but it does matter that it happens. At present it is not happening "enough". Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185
Re: [newbie] X doesn't work on Trident9750 3DImage
On Friday 01 December 2000 19:11, you wrote: Hi, I have a PIII 800 Mboard SOYO 6VBA+133 videocard Trident9750 3D Image, 64MB Ram, the problem is when I try to start Xwindows, It doesn't work on Trident9750 3D Image video card. I've been tryed to set the resolution and driver, but my video only show a dark screen. I've been installed the mandrake-linux 7 many times, but it does't work. How can I resolve this problem? Thanks Marcio MelfiNet S/C Ltda Jales - Santa Fé do Sul 0xx17 6327122 ou 6311003 http://www.prude.net a rede sem virus First bof all, use expert install and use the 3.3.6 driver, and se it NOT to boot to X on install. Next, edit /etc/X11/XF86Config in the devices section add the line Options "noaccel" Next remove the modelines you will not actually use from the assortment of available modelines then close your edit, saving the file startx Civileme
Re: [newbie] Linux v Windows
You are dead on correct. The situation is precisely as you describe even though enthousiasts insis on deluding themselves.. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: David Grubb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux v Windows I'd just like to add my $0.02 here, at the risk of heading OT and being inundated with flames. I whole-heartedly agree Linux is a far-better, quality system than certain other OSs, and I have enjoyed many months of learning and working with it, and I look forward to many more years of learning. But (there always has to be a 'but', doesn't there :) - I'm a computer enthusiast - I work with computers: fixing problems, deploying systems, supporting users etc. I go home and I play with my computer - the case is never bolted on coz I'm forever pulling out cards and trying different hardware. I have stacks of CDs spread across the room coz I'm forever trying new OSs, apps and games - and when something breaks I enjoy fixing it. Trouble is, not everyone out there is an enthusiast like those on this mailing list - I've seen this analogy elsewhere many times, but I think it is worth repeating: Most people buy a car simply so they can drive around - they don't care what is under the hood. A lot add ornaments or extra bits because thats what they like. Very few actually care what is under the hood, let alone have any idea how to tinker with it. Most computer users (note: users, not enthusiests) just want the computer to work - it needs to be easy for them to stick their ornaments or extra bits in - but they're not interested in "tricky" things like dependancies, command lines etc (personnally I would prefer if everyone in the office were forced to use a command line once in a while...) At present, Linux is still relatively complex to set up and use, however it is progressing at a rapid pace. But until it reaches the point that your average Joe Bloggs (sorry Joe, just picking a name out of the air :) who works in the bakery down the street, can go home, turn on his Linux box that he picked up from his local electrical store, stick in a new game and be up and running in 5 minutes - it just isn't going to be popular to the mainstream public. My apologies for the rant peoples, just been seeing red over this sort of thing for a while. --- David Grubb - Internet / Intranet Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] +61 2 9895-7913 Department of Land Water Conservation Sydney, Australia --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/04 2:53 pm it _has_ an "install-shield". It just doesn't happen to look like the one thats in windows. Nor should it. there are some things, I would agree, that need to change, but one of them isn't becoming windows, or even Windows-like. Since I became a Linux user two years ago I've watched first RedHat progress forward with their presentation and the installation methods employed by their developers and now Mandrake for the past 9 months. I'd say that they've come a long way in a short time. I for one am glad that they spend more time on making sure that the product that they're releasing to the public is coded and working correctly rather than making sure its a hands-off breeze to install and get working. Reading is fundamental. that used to be a famous little slogan that everyone was familiar with on Saturday mornings while watching cartoons and in the Linux world it is still very true. Linux may not jump out-a the box and onto your harddrive ready for you to cruise the internet with "no" effort, but then again it doesn't need rebooted 2-3 times a day and doesn't cost between $300 and $700 per copy per machine either. Lets remember that what you've got on your computer is one of the most stable operating systems that many of us have ever seen and most of us haven't paid a penny for, but "many" have spent Lng hours coding, debugging, checking and rechecking...I could go on and on, but I need to get down off this soap box before I get a nose bleed. I think these few reasons are more than enough to bring Linux to a place of world domination. All that is needed is that intelligent folks first need to stop fearing what they aren't able to readily understand in a few seconds, and be willing to put in a little time and effort to get completley configured. What you end up with in the end is a machine that is as solid as a rock provided the user did a little planning ahead of time and made sure all their "hardware" ducks are in a row thereby avoiding any unpleasant surprises. -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY
RE: [newbie] Dual Boot
You wrote: And attached a .vcf file. Please turn off your .vcf generator. It's some kind of microsoft plot to fill up my machine with useless attachments. Sorry - I know those extra 762 bytes are going to add up fast... - Av - -- Abraham P. (Av) Pinzur [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav -Original Message- From: Doug McGarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 04 December, 2000 08:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Abraham Pinzur Subject: RE: [newbie] Dual Boot At 12:24 AM 12/04/2000 -0600, Abraham Pinzur wrote: If you're willing to spend $30, you can download Partition Commander URL? - Av - -- Av Pinzur / Crisp Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav /snip/ BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Pinzur;Abraham;P FN:Abraham P Pinzur NICKNAME:Av ORG:Crisp Graphics TITLE:Web Interface Designer TEL;WORK;VOICE:615.633.4250 TEL;HOME;VOICE:615.633.4450 ADR;WORK:;;860 Golden Hollow Road;Dixon Springs;Tennessee;37057;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:860 Golden Hollow Road=0D=0ADixon Springs, Tennessee 37057=0D=0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;920 Honey Prong Road;Hartsville;Tennessee;37074-3002;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:920 Honey Prong Road=0D=0AHartsville, Tennessee 37074-3002=0D=0AUSA URL:http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav/ URL:http://www.crispgraphics.com/ EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:2817T173548Z END:VCARD
RE: [newbie] Dual Boot
At 12:24 AM 12/04/2000 -0600, Abraham Pinzur wrote: If you're willing to spend $30, you can download Partition Commander URL? - Av - -- Av Pinzur / Crisp Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav /snip/ And attached a .vcf file. Please turn off your .vcf generator. It's some kind of microsoft plot to fill up my machine with useless attachments.
Re: [newbie] Linux and TFT screens
On Thursday 30 November 2000 22:39, you wrote: Since I didn't really get a reply to my rather broad question last time, let me word it this way: Should a laptop TFT be considered a LCD display or VGA/SVGA? Thanks, Mark Best results with a LCD, however this is chipset dependent and tinkering with the XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file is not an uncommon requirement to meet the precise timing of the particular laptop chipset. Civileme
Re: [newbie] how do i get off this mailling list
actually, there were some changes made over the weekend. from now on the procedure for "getting off" this mailing list is as follows: submit and email with the the following information your full name number and experation date of all your credit cards your boyfriends / girlfriends phone number and address and a JPG image of that person. within 5 days you will not be concerned with mail from this list any more. unlike other methods, this is certain to work. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeff Dickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8:19:51 PM 12/3/00 Which sounds vaguely like "how to become a registered linux user" :-) -JD- On Sunday 03 December 2000 10:32, you wrote: On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: I liked choice number two... ;) I toyed with the idea of telling him to send each member of this list a buck, and we'd take care of it for him ;-)
Re: [newbie] Linux v Windows
I happen to agree with David 100%. I too am a computer enthusiast and have a few computers at home but only one runs linux, my wife's and daughter's run Win98 and I have them running trouble free and many times for weeks at a time without a problem. I see nothing evil about M$, free enterprise works and that's big proof. I happen to admire Bill Gates, hell if you can make that much money he's got my admiration. I do agree their software is not the best in the world but when was McDonald's a good hamburger? I love linux and I don't hate windows. It's a happy home, at least here in my house with all the different children playing together. Finally a person with common sense. I agree with you and you describe my own home situation, - except that my wife's W98 system (which she uses daily to write her Ph.D. dissertation, internet, etc), has not crashed in months.
[newbie] How to mount a network machine (not Samba)
Is it possible for me to mount a network computer. For example, I have files on a solaris machine that I constantly need to bring over onto my linux machine. I'm getting tired of ftp'ing what I'd like to do is just some how mount that solaris machine and treat it like another directory. Is this possible?
Re: [newbie] RE: Windows can't be written in VB
why not? start your own little list. I really couldn't care less what Windows is written in. I personally think you guys should find another topic (that concerns Linux) to discuss here. There aren't that many of you who are carrying on this discussion; why don't you do it privately? Mark Weaver wrote: no -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Fri, 1 Dec 2000 Eunice Thompson had this to say! Couldn't you folks who want to discuss or vent about Windows find a Windows mailing list or better yet, --start one. Can we just do Linux here? Thanks Eunice Mark Weaver wrote: it is...but often you'll find that all this venting is good theropy. -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 Abraham Pinzur had this to say! Technically, WinME is Win98 without any trace of DOS under the covers. You won't find autoexec.bat. config.sys, or any of those files on a system with WinME preinstalled. *Technically*, best I can tell, WinME's relationship to DOS is no different from Win95 or Win98. Take it from a guy who's wasted a lot more time exploring those relationships than I want to think about... Basically Win9x's autoexec.bat/config.sys only affected DOS programs anyway. MS chose to leave them out in the newest iteration, assuming (fairly reasonably, actually) that nobody buying a new WinME computer would ever even think of running a DOS program. However, the dirty little secret is that if you ever have to boot off of WinME's rescue floppy, you're right back at the DOS prompt! BTW, I subscribed to this list under the impression that it was devoted to an alternative OS... =) - Av - -- Eunice Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Treasurer/Community Relations Cerritos Linux User Group http://www.cerritoslug.org
[newbie] Mandrake 7.2 ISO's not right size...
Hi LIst, I was wondering about something. This morning when I attempted to burn a few CD's with the Mandrake 7.2 ISO's that I downloaded over the weekend I got a very strange error message back from the software. It told me that the length of the file was not a multiple of the sectors on the CDROM. I'm not sure what this means apart from maybe the file is the right size it's supposed to be. Could someone shed some light on this for me? I was using a Windows utility to do the CD's here at work. WE've done other distros with this same utility before, so I know that it works. RedHat 7.0, Mandrake 7.1... thanks, -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR*
Re: [newbie] V7.2 questions!
On Friday 01 December 2000 22:03, you wrote: "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: A friend of mine installed the download version of 7.2 on his Pentium machine with 64 megs of RAM and a i810 video setup. (its a 667mhz machine). Anyways, he has an external modem and no matter what we do, it does not show up under hardware configuration, even though its working fine. Also, I thought hardware acceleration was automatic with certain card/chipsets under 7.2. (including the i810). However, any games we play are dead slow... ;-( Any ideas? Thanks! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Doesn't the i810 chipset have a video out port? or was that the 810e? Does it work under linux? If you installed in expert mode and selected ANY resolution other than 16-bit color depth, not only was acceleration broken by default, BUT ALSO the statement load."glx" is not included in the file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 As a result, you have no accelerartion. Acceleration works only in 16-bit color. Also 667MHz sounds like a Celeron clock rate. Remember that Intel cripples all Celerons to run at a 66MHz front side bus rate, unless you are into overclocking. Anyway, expert mode, XFree-4.01 and 16-bit color depth is best chance for the i810. I have a Pentium III 733 running off the i810e with full acceleration here and it still drags--the i810Chipset must have other virtues than speed. Civileme
Re: [newbie] FAX software for LM7.2
Dear Christian, I know about kfax which is a fax viewer, but I wanted a program which allows me to write a letter, say and send a fax. Regards Joseph - Original Message - From: Christian A Strømmen [Number1/NumeroUno] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] FAX software for LM7.2 On Thursday 30 November 2000 14:23, Joseph wrote: Anyone knows where I can find a program so that I can send a fax in LM7.2? kfax in the kde2 package.. :) -- \ Christian A Strømmen / \ Number1/NumeroUno @ Undernet - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ Web: www.realityx.net - Cell: +47 911 43 948 / Live your life by your dreams, not by the limits of reality...
Re: [newbie] Linux v Windows
Thank you Jeff, I appreciate the kind words. On Monday 04 December 2000 09:05, you wrote: I happen to agree with David 100%. I too am a computer enthusiast and have a few computers at home but only one runs linux, my wife's and daughter's run Win98 and I have them running trouble free and many times for weeks at a time without a problem. I see nothing evil about M$, free enterprise works and that's big proof. I happen to admire Bill Gates, hell if you can make that much money he's got my admiration. I do agree their software is not the best in the world but when was McDonald's a good hamburger? I love linux and I don't hate windows. It's a happy home, at least here in my house with all the different children playing together. Finally a person with common sense. I agree with you and you describe my own home situation, - except that my wife's W98 system (which she uses daily to write her Ph.D. dissertation, internet, etc), has not crashed in months. -- Eddie Torress www.veloct.net
Re: [newbie] Dual Boot
take a look at /etc/lilo.conf make sure it points to the right partitions and everything is right as far as you can tell. Should look like: boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot.b prompt timeout=50 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.x-xx label=linux root=/dev/hdax read-only other=/dev/hdax label=win table=/dev/hda Then ou need to run /sbin/lilo as root to update your MBR. The next time you boot, you should get a prompt. Andy - Original Message - From: "Dave DeGear" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 3:35 PM Subject: [newbie] Dual Boot I have a dual boot computer with W2K and Mandrake 7.2 on it. The Windows boots from drive C: and the Mandrake is on /dev/hdb5 . When it was installing I was asked which drive the Linux was booting from and I said /dev/hdb5. I then made a backup boot disk for the Linux. The problem is that my computer will only boot Linux from the floppy and if I try to boot it from the Lilo in the MBR I get an error message that /dev/hdb5 is not bootable. How do I make my Linux partition bootable so that I won't need to use the rescue diskette to boot it. Both W2K and Linux show up as options in the lilo menu. I have checked the lilo.conf to make sure that the Linux is pointing to /dev/hdb5 and have rerun lilo several times. Thanks. ...Dave
Re: [newbie] Installed Mandrake, can't find D drive
Michael wrote: Hi All, I just upgraded form RH 6.0 to Mandrake 7.1 on my M$Win95 box and everything went fine. I got my sound card, modem and network card configured without a problem. However, I just noticed when I went install a program on 95 so I could use it via WINE, that my "D" drive is not visable. It is visable on my linux desktop and I can read everything that's on it. Did I hose some kind of regedit file or something, and is this normal? TIA, Michael Michaelit's possible that the 'partition type identifier' for your D: drive partition got changed to 'hidden'. What this does is make windows unable to see the partition. If this is the problem you can use linux's fdisk program to identify and repair it. As root, type: fdisk -l This will list the partitions on all the hard drives listed in your /proc/partitions directory. If there's a hidden partition it'll show that it is on the far right of the listing, as it does on the sample below on sdc2 (part of that line has wrapped around because of my width setting): Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/sdc1 * 1 555 4458006b Win95 FAT32 /dev/sdc2 556 1110 4458037+ 1c Hidden Win95 FAT32 (LBA) Using fdisk's 't' command the system id (the 'partition type identifier') can be changed from '1c' to 'b' in the above example thus making the partition visible to windows. Nothing will actually be changed till you 'w'rite the partition table and exit fdisk. You can exit fdisk without writing the table with the 'q' command. -- Alan
RE: [newbie] How to mount a network machine (not Samba)
Use NFS (network file system). -Original Message- From: Mark Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:08 AM To: LinuxNewbie (E-mail) Subject: [newbie] How to "mount" a network machine (not Samba) Is it possible for me to mount a network computer. For example, I have files on a solaris machine that I constantly need to bring over onto my linux machine. I'm getting tired of ftp'ing what I'd like to do is just some how mount that solaris machine and treat it like another directory. Is this possible?
[newbie] Midi Module failure
For the longest time i get the following notice on boot up of my Mandrake 7.0: insmod /lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/misc/opl3.0 failed loading midi module opl2 failed. It mustn't be a critical part of my system as everything I need runs ok. But I was wondering what I might do so that the boot up sequence doesn't look for that module. Any suggestion appreciated. Michael Coady
Re: [newbie] Want something better for resume
On Sunday 03 December 2000 01:33, you wrote: Klyx don't work, tex is too hard I would like something easier if you please Thank you Try LyX. KLyX was written as a demo of Qt widgets and not really maintained, but the REAL LyX is there too, and is almost as easy as KLyX. Civileme
RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Mark wrote: I've noticed that most linux apps do a lot less error checking and are a lot more rough around the corner's, but this is understandable since a lot of the programs are created during the programmer's free time. Thanks, Mark. I'm still trying to develop my Linux paradigm, and your points are well-taken. Also, you can always download the code and fix it yourself (IF YOU'RE A PROGRAMMER TOO!) Hoping to move in that direction in the not-too-distant future. I've done a little programming in the past, but MS has spoiled me to death (or BSOD, more specifically...). Bring it on, Linux! - Av - -- Av Pinzur / Crisp Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: Monday, 04 December, 2000 08:32 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux I think a lot of times we use apps and OS interchangeably. While the the Linux OS is very stable and robust, there are many Linux programs that are not (Netscape 6 for example). This has nothing to do with the OS but rather with how robust the code is which is solely the programmer's task. And this speaks to the point of view of who cares about the OS if the apps running on it aren't usable. Linux programmers tend to be more hackers than "programmers". I've noticed that most linux apps do a lot less error checking and are a lot more rough around the corner's, but this is understandable since a lot of the programs are created during the programmer's free time. Also, you can always download the code and fix it yourself (IF YOU'RE A PROGRAMMER TOO!) -Original Message- From: Abraham Pinzur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 7:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux Mark - Admittedly, I don't know entirely what I'm doing yet. And more importantly, the platform itself is appreciably more robust than anything I've ever seen from MS. I'm not griping about the platform. Actually, I'm not griping about the applications, either. I salute all those whose efforts have made my experience thus far so effortless. My point is merely that there's more work to be done. A truly robust application will be able to handle any input (even 0 bees) gracefully. Is that not a fairly uncontroversial sentiment? - Av - -- Av Pinzur / Crisp Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Monday, 04 December, 2000 05:40 To: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake Subject: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux Av...what was so well stated about that. All that proves is that he's able to do embarrase himself in public and mutilate his Penguin. You know what I do with users like that at work? I sit them down and compell them to READ the user manual(s) for the apps that they're proving unable to get along with so that they stop causing such unnecessary trouble! -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 Abraham Pinzur had this to say! Well stated, Ed. I too appreciate the stable platform, but the apps are sometimes a different story. I installed Linux for the express purpose of getting more experience on the nitty-gritty end of things... =) - Av - -- Av Pinzur / Crisp Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Edward McCain Sent: Sunday, 03 December, 2000 22:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux On Sun, 03 Dec 2000, you wrote: You are right, of course, Linux is a paradise for coders and programmers, but beyond that truth is another, even bigger truth. That is that Linux is incredibly stable and powerful as a home PC platform as well as a dependable business workstation platform Er, I've managed to crash the entire platform twice and wreak havoc on numerous apps just by playing around in my account (NOT as root) Example: kde control center look and feel screensaver kswarm setup move the 'number of bees' slider to 0 this causes the application to 'crash' Others are less reproducable, but I can cause Kmail to crash by grabbing a email that I cc'ed to myself, replying to it and changing the subject line and body - or something like that. I was being silly and I crashed kmail twice before I got the hint. True, my account didn't terminate on those
RE: [newbie] midi
I've got the same problem, though I don't consider it major. I've got a SB PCI 128, which doesn't appear to have a traditional MIDI interface. (Windows plays MIDIs through a software synthesizer.) Does my Mandrake 7.2 installation come with a sw synth that I've failed to configure properly? Can I download one somewhere? Or should I just quit trying to test the MIDI player? =) - Av - -- Abraham P. (Av) Pinzur [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Julian Ellis Sent: Monday, 04 December, 2000 10:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] midi I am running Mandrake 7.2 and I must say it is really great !! I do have one major problem, i am unable to play any midi files. Whenever I try to, I get an error message saying ' unable to open /dev/sequencer probably another device is using it' .If anyone out there can help me please reply asap, I have a ton of midi files.
Re: [newbie] Apache wont execute some CGI scripts, and no PHP scripts...help!
I think the more likely problem is script configuration. check whether you provide the correct full server path(not relative) in configuration of script( that is always causing no file or directory) Neo http://www.iamnewbie.com http://www.iamnewbie.com/neobook.pl (my Guestbook script) On Mon, 04 Dec 2000, you wrote: Hi. I've been running Mandrake 7.1 now for a few months to serve as a web server email server for myself and a few friends. However, one problem that has been with me constantly, is the inability to run certain CGI/Perl scripts. PHP scripts simply wont work at all. The installation is a basic Mandrake 7.1, with apache and mod_perl mod_php selected. Some CGI scripts run fine (Tried 2 different calendars), but others just wont run at all (Tried UBB Newspro). PHP scripts wont run either.. The error message i get in the error_log file is as follows: [error] (2) No such file or directory: exec of /home/httpd/cgi-bin/newspro/newspro.cgi failed Premature end of script headers: /home/httpd/cgi-bin/newspro/newspro.cgi If i execute the cgi script at the command prompt with perl, it runs just fine and shows the html code, but apache just wont run it. Since it said "No such file or directory", i assumed it was a permissions problem, and changed ownership, group, permissions etceven tried to copy it into a directory where i had the calendar script that worked, but to no avail...it still gave me the same error message. PHP scripts give me the same error.. Feels like i've ran my head into a concrete wall ;) Any tips appreciated! Regards, Johan
[newbie] Tripwire ??
Hi all I was wondering if anyone here uses tripwire and if so where can i get it and how hard is it to install. thanks all . Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 ISO's not right size...
Ok...thanks a ton guys...I"ll check into this. -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 Helsby, James had this to say! Try running an md5 checksum on the iso image. Compare it to the md5 that is listed where you downloaded the image. Most likely, you lost a few bits during ftp-ing. Also, you might have downloaded it with ASCI, and not with binary. This WILL cause the problem. Cheers, James. -Original Message- From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:05 AM To: Mandrake Newbie List Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 ISO's not right size... Hi LIst, I was wondering about something. This morning when I attempted to burn a few CD's with the Mandrake 7.2 ISO's that I downloaded over the weekend I got a very strange error message back from the software. It told me that the length of the file was not a multiple of the sectors on the CDROM. I'm not sure what this means apart from maybe the file is the right size it's supposed to be. Could someone shed some light on this for me? I was using a Windows utility to do the CD's here at work. WE've done other distros with this same utility before, so I know that it works. RedHat 7.0, Mandrake 7.1... thanks, -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR*
Re: [newbie] Linux v Windows
I think the many strengths of Linux can only be added to by smoother installation. Linux remains a very strong, felxible, stable, and free os. Sure, it may take the fun of the chase out of installing for a few souls, but you can be rest assured (I hope) that any work done on usabillity and UI will be done "on top" and not exclude what already exists, only adding to to the user's options. Mark Weaver wrote: At present, Linux is still relatively complex to set up and use, however it is progressing at a rapid pace. But until it reaches the point that your average Joe Bloggs (sorry Joe, just picking a name out of the air :) who works in the bakery down the street, can go home, turn on his Linux box that he picked up from his local electrical store, stick in a new game and be up and running in 5 minutes - it just isn't going to be popular to the mainstream public. When that happens I'm going to stop using it and look for something else because when that happens it will not longer "BE" linux, but another stinking icr$sotf wannabe clone. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] How to mount a network machine (not Samba)
On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Mark Johnson wrote: Is it possible for me to mount a network computer. For example, I have files on a solaris machine that I constantly need to bring over onto my linux machine. I'm getting tired of ftp'ing what I'd like to do is just some how mount that solaris machine and treat it like another directory. Is this possible? Hi Mark, I have once known how to do it, told by friends in the Linux world. Lost the exact info, but it's basically: create /etc/exports on the machine you want to make available. In there you set up what directorie(s) you want to share (don't recall the exact syntax, sorry, still looking for it myself) Then on the 'receiving' machine make a directory, e.g. /mnt/solaris and there you then can mount: mount solaris:dir that's shared /mnt/solaris It is something along these lines, hope this helps you further Paul -- We are Microsoft of Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is - Fatal exception error in MSBORG32.DLL http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30
RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Dear Newbie (whoever you might be), My sincere apologies. The e-mail under reply is well reasoned and infinitely more comprehensible than the one in which I was so rude. Please forgive me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: 04 December 2000 14:23 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux -Original Message- From: Steven Kinch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 4:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux On Sun, 03 Dec 2000, you wrote: In a message dated 12/1/00 4:54:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: if MS ever decided to distribute a flavor of linux I believe they would give Mandrake, SuSE, RedHat, and etc. a very hard run for their money. I am sorry but I don't have the first clue what you are trying to say. Is a MS distro going to be any better than what we have? My guess is that it would introduce to Linux a new concept like AUTOCRSH EVERY FIVE MINUTES No, my point is that a MS distro will most likely be more usable from a UI point of view, not neccessarily a sysadmin point of view (but probably that too), than any other distro out there for the average Joe user who doesn't care a flying flip about what's under the hood (and why should he?). If he can run IE and MS Office on a higher quality, more stable OS, it's reasonable to believe that Joe user would probably drop his WIN32 installation and install MS Linux because on the surface he couldn't tell the difference except that his "system" appeared to be running better. I know a couple of Windows folk would who do that. But not only would they do it, they freakin' pay for it too! I haven't paid a single cent to Mandrake for any of their hard work, I'm willing to wager that no *average* linux user has or will probably pay any significant amount (if any at all) of money to the vendor of his/her favorite distribution. But the average Window's knuckleheads probably would pay. They'd pay for both the OS or rather the Desktop (since you can't charge for the OS) and the support. But, wouldnt we all just download it off the net for free instead of buying it in a store. I go out and buy the software to support the cause, I wouldnt but a microsoft product if i could download it for free Yes of course we would. Are you some sort of idiot? Probably the "real" linux user would scoff at the distro and refuse to download it anyway. But we keep forgetting that we are not the average computer user. We care at both a technical and philosphical level about the OS we run. This is part of the elitism that I talked about in an ealier post. We have zero compassion for the folks that have weaker aptitudes for computers and technical savy. We'll there's a huge market for those folks and MS exploited it. We make these moral judgements on folks with less technical ability and refuse to contemplate or address their challenges while AOL and MS slips in and these poor, morally depraved users sell their souls to Baelzebub and Satan. I know this is a bit extreme, but it's interesting that only 2 or 3 companies (of all the vast linux community) out there ( HelixGnome, Eazel, KDE(?) ) are addressesing needs of the average user.
Re: [newbie] Old wp5 files
cool thanks On Sun, 03 Dec 2000, Doug McGarrett wrote: Any modern version of WordPerfect will read them. Probably MS Word will read them. (You obviously must run Windows to do that, or maybe Wine works?) Try StarOffice. I don't know if that works or not, but it's free. --doug At 01:51 12/03/2000 -0600, you wrote: Hello list Anyone know where I can find something to convert or read old wordperfect 5 files? thankya thankyaverrimuch
Re: [newbie] midi
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 08:43:43AM -0800, Julian Ellis wrote: I am running Mandrake 7.2 and I must say it is really great !! I do have one major problem, i am unable to play any midi files. Whenever I try to, I get an error message saying ' unable to open /dev/sequencer probably another device is using it' .If anyone out there can help me please reply asap, I have a ton of midi files. have you tried sndconfig? sa
Re: [newbie] Installed Mandrake, can't find D drive
Michael wrote: fdisk -l gives me: Device Boot Start End Blocks ID System /dev/hda1* 1 261 2096451 6 FAT 16 /dev/hda2 2621027 615289585 Linux extended /dev/hda5 262 522 2096451 6 FAT 16 /dev/hda6 523 840 2554303+ 83 Linux /dev/hda7 841 980 1124518+ 83 Linux /dev/hda8 9811027 37749682 Linux swap Michaelthe above shows that Charles was correct in his earlier message and that there is a fix available at the URL listed below. Your D: drive partition has been encorperated in a 'Type 85' linux extended partition and windowws is unable to see it inside there. There is a script to download from the below web page that you can run and it will repair the problem. http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/heliumlast.php3 -- Alan
Re: [newbie] SoundBlaster AWB64 on MandrakeLinux 7.1
On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Marcos Vinicius Amorim Ferreira Guimaraes wrote: Hi ALL, yesterday I installed Mandrake 7.1 on 64Mb K6-II 500 Mhz machine. But my SoundBlaster card don't work. What i need to do? Is necessary recompile linux kernel how some HOW-TOs docs about sound and soundblaster said? I'm really newbie and scared when i hear some kernel things! When you are in X, press Ctrl-Alt-F2, log into the textmode console as root, and then run "sndconfig". This should help you detect the card and get things going. Works for me and so many others :) Then log out, and press Ctrl-Alt-F7 again to get back to X Paul -- We are Microsoft of Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is - Fatal exception error in MSBORG32.DLL http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 ISO's not right size...
I've downloaded and burned quite a few ISO files. I always like to check the md5sum for the file and make sure that it is correct. Normally I do this under Linux but I also found an md5sum utility for Windows. Just type "md5sum mandrake7-2.iso" and see what you get. I don't remember where I got the md5sum for Windows but it was included with a utility package that I had downloaded. Let me know if you can't find it and I'll do a quick search. ...Dave Quoting Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi LIst, I was wondering about something. This morning when I attempted to burn a few CD's with the Mandrake 7.2 ISO's that I downloaded over the weekend I got a very strange error message back from the software. It told me that the length of the file was not a multiple of the sectors on the CDROM. I'm not sure what this means apart from maybe the file is the right size it's supposed to be. Could someone shed some light on this for me? I was using a Windows utility to do the CD's here at work. WE've done other distros with this same utility before, so I know that it works. RedHat 7.0, Mandrake 7.1...
Re: [newbie] Installed Mandrake, can't find D drive
That URL can be found here: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/heliumlast.php3 Second error scenario at the bottom. -Paul R Charles A Edwards wrote: If you are saying that you had 2 Win partitions, C and D, and that your D partition no longer shows up in Windows this is caused by a bug in the 7.1 installation program which occurs when you run it in automatic mode. Your D partition has been included in the extended Linux partition created by the installation and is no longer visible in Windows. There is a fix listed on the Mandrake web site. Charles - Original Message - From: "Michael" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 3:18 AM Subject: [newbie] Installed Mandrake, can't find "D" drive Hi All, I just upgraded form RH 6.0 to Mandrake 7.1 on my M$Win95 box and everything went fine. I got my sound card, modem and network card configured without a problem. However, I just noticed when I went install a program on 95 so I could use it via WINE, that my "D" drive is not visable. It is visable on my linux desktop and I can read everything that's on it. Did I hose some kind of regedit file or something, and is this normal? TIA, Michael _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
[newbie] Adding Desktop themes
Dear All, When I had Linux Mandrake 7.0 I loved to download the desktop themes from Tucows or www.kde.org and then I would add them to the thememanager in the control center so easily. Now I have Linux Mandrake 7.2 and I cannot figure out how to put these themes I downloaded into the theme choices menu of KDE control center. Could someone tell me how? Thank you very much. Marcia
Re: [newbie] Kmail - can receive, not send messages
Let me say at the start of this that the install was very very easy and I was up and running right away and connected to internet and sending messages. My only disappointment is with the failure of kmail, an apparently integral part of KDE. On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, you wrote: Bill Fisher wrote: Mandrake 7.0 When I try to send mail using SMTP I get a message that it has been sent, yet it remains in the outbox on kmail, and I've verified the message has not been received. I think I had sent a few messages successfully. Received these replies from support: - Kmail is corrupted (remove and reinstall it through rpmdrake in Drakconf as root) I can't find kmail on rpmdrake/Drakconf (as root) - Your mail entries are not correct. Reviewed and reviewed: Set to SMTP correct setting for ISP port 25 set to send now Next was: "Configuration of Kmail is not included in our list of free support." hmmm - coul reinstall and try again. Hope I wrote down all those settings. I can receive messages in kmail. I have same server settings as in other operating systems. Any ideas? thanks, Bill Billin kmail under the 'Settings' drop-down-menu there is a selection called 'Configuration'. In the 'Network' section under the 'Properties' tab in the 'Default send method' are you set to 'Send Now' or to 'Send Later'? -- Alan
Re: [newbie] Midi Module failure
On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, mcoady wrote: DO you boot into graphics mode or into text mode? For graphics, read 5 where it says 3 (textmode): go (as root) to /etc/rc.d/rc3.d and do grep midi * There should be a file that is referencing the midi loading. You need to set that file to not being loaded. There's a tool for that, but I don't recall it's name... Paul For the longest time i get the following notice on boot up of my Mandrake 7.0: insmod /lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/misc/opl3.0 failed loading midi module opl2 failed. It mustn't be a critical part of my system as everything I need runs ok. But I was wondering what I might do so that the boot up sequence doesn't look for that module. Any suggestion appreciated. Michael Coady -- We are Microsoft of Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is - Fatal exception error in MSBORG32.DLL http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30
[newbie] Mandrake 7.2 on a Dell Laptop...
I'm having several problems with Mandrake on my laptop. I have a Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 100 + Modem card and since I've installed Mandrake 7.2 I can't get an ip address when booting into Linux. I had Red Hat 6.2 and it worked fine then... Any thoughts? Also, when shutting down Linux it's not unmounting my harddrive. Any thoughts on this one? Thanks in advance, Roger
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 ISO's not right size...
Try running an md5 checksum on the iso image. Compare it to the md5 that is listed where you downloaded the image. Most likely, you lost a few bits during ftp-ing. Also, you might have downloaded it with ASCI, and not with binary. This WILL cause the problem. Cheers, James. -Original Message- From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:05 AM To: Mandrake Newbie List Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 ISO's not right size... Hi LIst, I was wondering about something. This morning when I attempted to burn a few CD's with the Mandrake 7.2 ISO's that I downloaded over the weekend I got a very strange error message back from the software. It told me that the length of the file was not a multiple of the sectors on the CDROM. I'm not sure what this means apart from maybe the file is the right size it's supposed to be. Could someone shed some light on this for me? I was using a Windows utility to do the CD's here at work. WE've done other distros with this same utility before, so I know that it works. RedHat 7.0, Mandrake 7.1... thanks, -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR*
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
If you thought that was fun just have a look at the folling files: file(editor) c:\io.sys(hexedit)-mess with error messages c:\msdos.sys(asciiedit)-try adding logo=0 or bootgui=0 c:\windows\folder.htt(asciiedit)-the annoying message. - Original Message - From: Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux yeah I remember doing that, I edited the file that says "it is now safe to turn off your computer, so PUT ME BACK IN LINUX!" It was an image file so I just used an image editor and put in extra text hehe. I thought since the apps can tell the machine what to do, they can also be told to tell a decompiler or dis-assembler what to do, therefore producing the logical commands to be interpreted by the software into human-readable lines of code or at least into cpu instructions that can then be interpreted by some other software. On Sat, 02 Dec 2000, Goldenpi wrote: I haven't tried to decompile them but I have gone a long way with a hex editor. Have a look at c:\io.sys with a hex editor. The windows core is in there. You can edit a lot of error messages or prompts. I made mine say "shatered windows 98" when it starts. - Original Message - From: Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux So you already tested it ?? On Fri, 01 Dec 2000, goldenpi wrote: m$ do not want you decompiling their apps. They have made sure you do not decompile their apps useing every anti-decompile trick they can. They will not decompile. Vic wrote: Sorry to butt in Is there a good reverse compiler to get some source code out of ms apps so I can make them run in Linux? I mean make a linux binary.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Locks up when installing.
Probably your WD drive. Compile a kernel for your machine using 7.0 install, dump it on floppy made with "blank.img", and you'll be fine. cu Denis On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Bill wrote: :~I've tried installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 twice now, and it seems to lock up :~everytime right after it detects my hard drives and cd-rom's. It just sits :~there at a flashing prompt after detecting them. I've even waited for 15 :~minutes to see if it will continue. 7.0 will install fine. I have an AMD :~Athlon 500 Mhz on an FIC SD-11 board. 2 western digital HD's 17Gb and :~30Gb, a 4x4x24 R/RW and a 10x DVD-Rom. It does the same thing if I choose :~the lnx4win install. Anyone know what might be happening and what I can :~try to get around it? :~ :~Thanks, :~Bill :~ :~ :~ -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
RE: [newbie] Crystal 4235
If I'm not mistaken, CS423x is already supported. I have a Crystal 4232 and it works fine. --Original Message-- From: Jeff Dickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie User List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December 4, 2000 3:29:27 AM GMT Subject: [newbie] Crystal 4235 Does anyone know when the subject sound card will be supported? It's built onto my motherboard. I'd rather not have to install a second card for sound... -JD- Wishdiak +Ferris Saves+ www.wishdiak.com
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Dear WinHaters, I cann't help it, but I feel the urge to adres me like that to you all (my apologies for the few ones who are a bit more normal). I have followed this 'discussion' for a while, and I'm a bit dissapointed. I always have been thinking of Linux-users as some pioneers. But as it sounds here, at least in this discussion, that most of you are using Linux because they hate to use M$. I started with Linux since 2 months, trying to make it work on a simple machine. For me it was a challenge make it working on a 'simple' old-fashion 486. My winbox (at which this mail has been made, cause my linbox isn't yet on my network) is running now since more than 1 year without a single (yep not ONE) crash. Although the box is very heavily charged, with both hardware and programs (at least 10 are constantly turning). Now I have a qeustion for you, which car are you driving? A new one or almost new? Or do you have a car at which you have to do constantly some tuning or repairs on it to make it drive. Do you keep using a car or start using it when you knows it'll gona give you a hard head at least once in a week? Do you fix it or will you go to a garage? Cause you don't have the technical ability, does this make you knuckleheads or average Joe users who PAY for making theirs cars run smootly most of the time. Yes, all this has nothing to do in this mailing list, as none of the mails regarding this subject. Keep the good thing up, making linux the best and easy to use OS, and don't forget : up until now you are NOT the average computer user. With my best regards. PS : I'll wait a few day's, hoping this useless discussion is gonna stop. I'ts messing up my mail, so afterwards I'm gonna block this subject. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Crystal 4235
Is that in an emachine? I have a 400i. Any help would be appreciated... Thanks, -JD- -Original Message- From: Spoonman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Crystal 4235 If I'm not mistaken, CS423x is already supported. I have a Crystal 4232 and it works fine. --Original Message-- From: Jeff Dickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie User List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December 4, 2000 3:29:27 AM GMT Subject: [newbie] Crystal 4235 Does anyone know when the subject sound card will be supported? It's built onto my motherboard. I'd rather not have to install a second card for sound... -JD- Wishdiak +Ferris Saves+ www.wishdiak.com
Fwd: Re: [newbie] Kmail - can receive, not send messages
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] Kmail - can receive, not send messages Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 21:08:16 -0800 From: Bill Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let me say at the start of this that the install was very very easy and I was up and running right away and connected to internet and sending messages. My only disappointment is with the failure of kmail, an apparently integral part of KDE. On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, you wrote: Bill Fisher wrote: Mandrake 7.0 When I try to send mail using SMTP I get a message that it has been sent, yet it remains in the outbox on kmail, and I've verified the message has not been received. I think I had sent a few messages successfully. Received these replies from support: - Kmail is corrupted (remove and reinstall it through rpmdrake in Drakconf as root) I can't find kmail on rpmdrake/Drakconf (as root) - Your mail entries are not correct. Reviewed and reviewed: Set to SMTP correct setting for ISP port 25 set to send now Next was: "Configuration of Kmail is not included in our list of free support." hmmm - coul reinstall and try again. Hope I wrote down all those settings. I can receive messages in kmail. I have same server settings as in other operating systems. Any ideas? thanks, Bill Billin kmail under the 'Settings' drop-down-menu there is a selection called 'Configuration'. In the 'Network' section under the 'Properties' tab in the 'Default send method' are you set to 'Send Now' or to 'Send Later'? -- Alan --- try rpmdrake and search package kdenetwork. -- Avi Nehori This cultural mystique surrounding the biological function -- you realize humans are overly preoccupied with the subject. -- Kelinda the Kelvan, "By Any Other Name", stardate 4658.9
RE:[newbie] Mandrake 7.2 on a Dell Laptop...
Is it hanging on the floppy drive? I installed Mandrake on a DELL Laptop also and even though I never had the floppy drive in the machine it automagically mounted it during startup. Then it would hang trying to unmount it. If this is the case, edit the /etc/fstab and comment out the line that starts with /mnt/floppy... Good luck! Dave Registered Linux User #184784 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/04/00 02:37PM I'm having several problems with Mandrake on my laptop.I have a Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 100 + Modem card and since I've installed Mandrake 7.2 I can't get an ip address when booting into Linux. I had Red Hat 6.2 and it worked fine then... Any thoughts?Also, when shutting down Linux it's not unmounting my harddrive. Any thoughts on this one?Thanks in advance,Roger
[newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Locks up when installing.
I've tried installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 twice now, and it seems to lock up everytime right after it detects my hard drives and cd-rom's. It just sits there at a flashing prompt after detecting them. I've even waited for 15 minutes to see if it will continue. 7.0 will install fine. I have an AMD Athlon 500 Mhz on an FIC SD-11 board. 2 western digital HD's 17Gb and 30Gb, a 4x4x24 R/RW and a 10x DVD-Rom. It does the same thing if I choose the lnx4win install. Anyone know what might be happening and what I can try to get around it? Thanks, Bill
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Strike that -it's a PC. Romanator wrote: Laptop. Mark Weaver wrote: Rick, what "is" a Pavilion? I've never heard of one of those. Laptop? desktop? what kind of sound card is in it? Mandrake 7.1 has a lot of support for a lot of hardware, and I'm told that 7.2 has even more. Now...as far as sound cards go RedHat has even better sound card support then does Mandrake. I came from RedHat to Mandrake. I cut my Linux teeth on RedHat, but then I saw Mandrake for the first time, (Mandrake 7.02) I fell in love all over again. I had better printer support in RedHat till I got my Canon Bubblejet. And that was a little dicey but I'm stuborn and refused to let the "features" get the best of me. I tricked it into thinking the printer was something else other then a BJC6000. For a while anyway. The only programs I can't print from now are Pine and a few of the more generic text editors that I use. Printing from them though isn't really a necessity and if I need to print an email I just export it to Netscape Messenger which prints it just fine. -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 Rick Commo had this to say! And behind Mark's statement is an even more powerful truth, "if... you can install it and get it going". Because a stable operating system that you can't easily install won't be accepted. And I am in that league for example with my Pavilion 3625 - no sound. Since I don't use it anyway, I've let it slide, but it is a case in point as are the many questions thrown into [newbie] and even [expert]. -Original Message- From: . Mark Weaver Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 2:34 PM Cc: Mandrake Newbie List Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux Patrick, You are right, of course, Linux is a paradise for coders and programmers, but beyond that truth is another, even bigger truth. That is that Linux is incredibly stable and powerful as a home PC platform as well as a dependable business workstation platform. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Hello Jozef, That is untrue. Man of the users still use some sort of application that runs on Windows OS. It's just we hate to admit it or rather talk about Linux OS or Linux related topics. Don't be discouraged. Yes, there have been some very goofy going ons on the newsgroup. But, as on many newsgroups, we have to break up the monotony with some joking. There are many good people that spend many hours for the love it. The great thing about Linux is that it makes you work harder on isolating problems. It teaches you skills that you never thought you had and it's fun. Personally, this is something that Windows lacks by providing most things on a silver platter. Cheer up. All is not lost. We all help each other. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Jozef Glonek wrote: Dear WinHaters, I cann't help it, but I feel the urge to adres me like that to you all (my apologies for the few ones who are a bit more normal). I have followed this 'discussion' for a while, and I'm a bit dissapointed. I always have been thinking of Linux-users as some pioneers. But as it sounds here, at least in this discussion, that most of you are using Linux because they hate to use M$. I started with Linux since 2 months, trying to make it work on a simple machine. For me it was a challenge make it working on a 'simple' old-fashion 486. My winbox (at which this mail has been made, cause my linbox isn't yet on my network) is running now since more than 1 year without a single (yep not ONE) crash. Although the box is very heavily charged, with both hardware and programs (at least 10 are constantly turning). Now I have a qeustion for you, which car are you driving? A new one or almost new? Or do you have a car at which you have to do constantly some tuning or repairs on it to make it drive. Do you keep using a car or start using it when you knows it'll gona give you a hard head at least once in a week? Do you fix it or will you go to a garage? Cause you don't have the technical ability, does this make you knuckleheads or average Joe users who PAY for making theirs cars run smootly most of the time. Yes, all this has nothing to do in this mailing list, as none of the mails regarding this subject. Keep the good thing up, making linux the best and easy to use OS, and don't forget : up until now you are NOT the average computer user. With my best regards. PS : I'll wait a few day's, hoping this useless discussion is gonna stop. I'ts messing up my mail, so afterwards I'm gonna block this subject. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Locks up when installing.
Denis: Could you expand on how you arrived at your conclusion? Is there a problem with some or all WD drives and LM7.2? Does it extend to other hard drives? I thought that they were all pretty much the same. While I don't have a WD disk, I have been having problems getting a stable installation of LM7.2 on my Fujitsu 15.3 drive -- gonna make another try tonight -- and I wonder if I've missed something. Regards, cmg - Original Message - From: "Denis HAVLIK" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Bill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Locks up when installing. Probably your WD drive. Compile a kernel for your machine using 7.0 install, dump it on floppy made with "blank.img", and you'll be fine. cu Denis On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Bill wrote: :~I've tried installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 twice now, and it seems to lock up :~everytime right after it detects my hard drives and cd-rom's. It just sits :~there at a flashing prompt after detecting them. I've even waited for 15 :~minutes to see if it will continue. 7.0 will install fine. I have an AMD :~Athlon 500 Mhz on an FIC SD-11 board. 2 western digital HD's 17Gb and :~30Gb, a 4x4x24 R/RW and a 10x DVD-Rom. It does the same thing if I choose :~the lnx4win install. Anyone know what might be happening and what I can :~try to get around it? :~ :~Thanks, :~Bill
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 on a Dell Laptop...
Whoah Dave, Can you increase your font size, we can't read your questions? Roman
[newbie] Code Crusader Icon too large to add to kpanel
Hi everybody, I downloaded Code Crusader. However, I would like to reduce the icon. It's too large. Does any one know the correct proportions and how to edit it so that it can be added to kpanel. Which graphical program is best suited for this? Oh yeah. Any positive comments about Code Crusader? Roman
[newbie] RPM dependency
I purchased ver 7.2 from the Mandrake site along with the Extension disk. Install locks up on attempt to add files from the Extension disk so I did not get the doc manual for Mandrake which shows up as one of the RPM files on it. When I try to install that file via an rpm -install command, I get an error saying I need file "locales-de" . The same error results if I try to rpm one of the "howto" files. Where can I get "locales-de" ?? Please, Don Mayhew
Re: [newbie] Tripwire ??
a google search returned http://www.tripwire.org might be a good starting point Hi all I was wondering if anyone here uses tripwire and if so where can i get it and how hard is it to install. thanks all . Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
abso-friggin-lutely! ;) I was just giving you a hard time for giving your poor Penguin a headache! As I do myself when I'm being unkind to the little guy. He treats me so good and sometimes I do some,um...rather...shall we say...things that if I'd have thought about then a little longer I probably wouldn't have done to begin with. -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 R. Edward McCain had this to say! On Mon, 04 Dec 2000, you wrote: And you point is? All you've managed to do is cause a few applications a mild headache and they refused to operate any further. You hadn't cause the actual OS to suffer any hardship. If you're really having that much trouble, then I would suggest one of two things is true. Hey, I wasn't griping (well, er, no, not really) just pointing out a fact. I don't even have windows (unless you count X) on my machine anymore - that should tell you something right there.
RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Av, I hear what you're saying, and to a small degree I ...well, sort of agree, but only to a small point. Actually, my supervisor and I have this very converstation at times. He's said, and still continues to say, a lot of the same things that you're saying. I am of the feeling that if Linux, no matter what flavor, were to become "more" new user friendly, or to put it a better way, extreme novice user friendly, then it would no longer "be" linux. It would be Microsoft...or very much like it and not much at all like Linux. I don't say that to portray an attitude of an elitest. Quite the contrary as a matter of fact. I've watched over the years as windows has evolved and changed and become more novice friendly, and when I use that term I'm refering to folks that barely know what a mouse is let alone what it can do. Anyway, I've watched as the Windows platform has changed over the years and has grown more and more accomodating to anyone and everyone in general and to some degree that "is" necessary, but in so doing I really believe that they've sacrficed much of Windows strengths and stability for ease of use for both user and third party vendor. Linux does indeed take a fair amount of work to get started with the system and even a little more to get to a point to where you, as the user feel very confortable with the system. I remember when I first started. I thought I was going to pull my hair out trying to figure out what to do next. But I quickly saw something in Linux that I didn't find in windows and that was a great deal of stability, power and flexibility as long as I was willing to dance to the tune "it" was playing. I'm glad I stuck it out cause it's been a great and wild ride. And it's STILL not over. Every time I turn around I'm learning something new, or finding another program thats on the system that I didn't know was there that does something real cool. -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 Abraham Pinzur had this to say! Mark - Admittedly, I don't know entirely what I'm doing yet. And more importantly, the platform itself is appreciably more robust than anything I've ever seen from MS. I'm not griping about the platform. Actually, I'm not griping about the applications, either. I salute all those whose efforts have made my experience thus far so effortless. My point is merely that there's more work to be done. A truly robust application will be able to handle any input (even 0 bees) gracefully. Is that not a fairly uncontroversial sentiment? - Av - -- Av Pinzur / Crisp Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Monday, 04 December, 2000 05:40 To: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake Subject: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux Av...what was so well stated about that. All that proves is that he's able to do embarrase himself in public and mutilate his Penguin. You know what I do with users like that at work? I sit them down and compell them to READ the user manual(s) for the apps that they're proving unable to get along with so that they stop causing such unnecessary trouble! -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 Abraham Pinzur had this to say! Well stated, Ed. I too appreciate the stable platform, but the apps are sometimes a different story. I installed Linux for the express purpose of getting more experience on the nitty-gritty end of things... =) - Av - -- Av Pinzur / Crisp Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Edward McCain Sent: Sunday, 03 December, 2000 22:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux On Sun, 03 Dec 2000, you wrote: You are right, of course, Linux is a paradise for coders and programmers, but beyond that truth is another, even bigger truth. That is that Linux is incredibly stable and powerful as a home PC platform as well as a dependable business workstation platform Er, I've managed to crash the entire platform twice and wreak havoc on numerous apps just by playing around in my account (NOT as root) Example: kde control center look and feel screensaver kswarm setup move the 'number of bees' slider to 0 this causes the application to 'crash' Others are less
[newbie] Thank you, Rog.
Rog, thank you ever so much. I finally managed to get both my cd burner and cd-r to work with this tip. You have my eternal gratitude. [...] Before you try that, do what they say to do here: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Tutorial/CDburner/ I don't know if it works (it should for both cdroms), but if you're going to reinstall anyways, what could it hurt? [...] Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #190719 [.] -- R. Edward McCain [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 599146 Registered Linux User #196613
Re: [newbie] Thank you, Rog.
On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, R Edward McCain wrote: Rog, thank you ever so much. I finally managed to get both my cd burner and cd-r to work with this tip. You have my eternal gratitude. [...] No problem, man! See Mark, and you thought it was gonna torch the guy, just cause I trashed my system by typing in the commands wrong! LOL... Before you try that, do what they say to do here: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Tutorial/CDburner/ I don't know if it works (it should for both cdroms), but if you're going to reinstall anyways, what could it hurt? [...] Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #190719 [.] -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #190719
RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Ummm...Netscape 6 sucks because AOL can't program to save their lives, and a hacker IS a programmer. If you're refering to the "script kiddies" that have way too much time on their hands and no proper motivation to properly direct and use their God given talents for something other than to jerk around making a mess and headache for others never amounting to nothing more than crimanals...well, there ya go...you went and got me started. Let me properly define a few things for you. Hacker = programmer - someone who writes, developes, or otherwise engineers software for computers either for money or just for the plain love of creating something from nothing and allowing others to enjoy and benifit from his/her efforts. Cracker = script-kiddie - general, all arouind pain in the ass that should have their heads handed to them in a bucket cause it's painfully apparent that they have no intention of doing anything constructive or useful with their talents in the near future except to get on everyone elses nerves and generally cause a lot of fuss and trouble! Frankly, Netscape 6 is a terrible embarrassment for me as I've been a devoted Netscape user since 1995 when I got my first computer. Since AOL has taken over that ship it has been steadily sinking and fully expect that company to go belly-up before too long. they're ruining the program with their garbage and junk that they've been pedaling to the masses in their AOL software. YUCK! -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 Mark Johnson had this to say! I think a lot of times we use apps and OS interchangeably. While the the Linux OS is very stable and robust, there are many Linux programs that are not (Netscape 6 for example). This has nothing to do with the OS but rather with how robust the code is which is solely the programmer's task. And this speaks to the point of view of who cares about the OS if the apps running on it aren't usable. Linux programmers tend to be more hackers than "programmers". I've noticed that most linux apps do a lot less error checking and are a lot more rough around the corner's, but this is understandable since a lot of the programs are created during the programmer's free time. Also, you can always download the code and fix it yourself (IF YOU'RE A PROGRAMMER TOO!) -Original Message- From: Abraham Pinzur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 7:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux Mark - Admittedly, I don't know entirely what I'm doing yet. And more importantly, the platform itself is appreciably more robust than anything I've ever seen from MS. I'm not griping about the platform. Actually, I'm not griping about the applications, either. I salute all those whose efforts have made my experience thus far so effortless. My point is merely that there's more work to be done. A truly robust application will be able to handle any input (even 0 bees) gracefully. Is that not a fairly uncontroversial sentiment? - Av - -- Av Pinzur / Crisp Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Monday, 04 December, 2000 05:40 To: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake Subject: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux Av...what was so well stated about that. All that proves is that he's able to do embarrase himself in public and mutilate his Penguin. You know what I do with users like that at work? I sit them down and compell them to READ the user manual(s) for the apps that they're proving unable to get along with so that they stop causing such unnecessary trouble! -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 Abraham Pinzur had this to say! Well stated, Ed. I too appreciate the stable platform, but the apps are sometimes a different story. I installed Linux for the express purpose of getting more experience on the nitty-gritty end of things... =) - Av - -- Av Pinzur / Crisp Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Edward McCain Sent: Sunday, 03 December, 2000 22:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux On Sun, 03 Dec 2000, you wrote: You are right, of course, Linux is a paradise for coders and programmers, but beyond that truth is another, even
[newbie] goldwave equivalents
Does anyone know of a Linux equivalent sound processing/recording program to Goldwave (for windoze)? I would greatly appreciate any input, seeing as how it is te only app i have yet to find a comparable alternative for. -- Sometimes, I just don't know anymore.
Re: [newbie] how do i get off this mailling list
On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Jay wrote: Roger Sherman wrote: On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Jeff Dickman wrote: Which sounds vaguely like "how to become a registered linux user" :-) -JD- Good composers borrow; great composers steal! ;-) Without sounding too harsh...What the hell is a registered Linux User anyway? A linux user who is registered. And does anybody really care about that? If one had taste and class, perhaps... -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #190719
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
A/S/L ??? Um...Can you interpret that for me? -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 R. Edward McCain had this to say! On Mon, 04 Dec 2000, you wrote: yes...Edward...we heard what you said in the first version of this message. all this second message does is further convince us that you should be horse whipped for mistreating your Penguin. Penguin abuse is a very serious offense. The penalty for which is VERY unpleasant. Horse whipped? *interest piqued* er, care to send me your A/S/L and median income? *grin*
Re: [newbie] RPM dependency
On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Don Mayhew wrote: I purchased ver 7.2 from the Mandrake site along with the Extension disk. Install locks up on attempt to add files from the Extension disk so I did not get the doc manual for Mandrake which shows up as one of the RPM files on it. When I try to install that file via an rpm -install command, I get an error saying I need file "locales-de" . The same error results if I try to rpm one of the "howto" files. Where can I get "locales-de" ?? Please, Try rpmfind.net ... just type in locales-de into the search engine, it should hook you up... -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #190719
[newbie] Creative SB16 PCI
How is the PCI version of Creative's SB16? Is it quick to setup with the bundled drivers? Seve
RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux
On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: Cracker = script-kiddie - general, all arouind pain in the ass that should have their heads handed to them in a bucket cause it's painfully apparent that they have no intention of doing anything constructive or useful with their talents in the near future except to get on everyone elses nerves and generally cause a lot of fuss and trouble! But Mark, how would they hold the bucket? ;-) -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #190719
Re: [newbie] Tripwire ??
ed wrote: Hi all I was wondering if anyone here uses tripwire and if so where can i get it and how hard is it to install. thanks all . www.tripwire.org -- ICQ#: 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
On Mon, 04 Dec 2000, you wrote: A/S/L ??? Um...Can you interpret that for me? heh, sorry, old AOL term that you see on IRC all the time. Stands for Age /Sex /Location. Thought you might be familiar witht he term and thus enjoy the joke a bit more. -- R. Edward McCain [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 599146 Registered Linux User #196613
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Well said Jozef! Well said! Actually, I don't hate Windows, I just HATE the bad habits that have become part and parcel of the entire windows experience. -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 Jozef Glonek had this to say! Dear WinHaters, I cann't help it, but I feel the urge to adres me like that to you all (my apologies for the few ones who are a bit more normal). I have followed this 'discussion' for a while, and I'm a bit dissapointed. I always have been thinking of Linux-users as some pioneers. But as it sounds here, at least in this discussion, that most of you are using Linux because they hate to use M$. I started with Linux since 2 months, trying to make it work on a simple machine. For me it was a challenge make it working on a 'simple' old-fashion 486. My winbox (at which this mail has been made, cause my linbox isn't yet on my network) is running now since more than 1 year without a single (yep not ONE) crash. Although the box is very heavily charged, with both hardware and programs (at least 10 are constantly turning). Now I have a qeustion for you, which car are you driving? A new one or almost new? Or do you have a car at which you have to do constantly some tuning or repairs on it to make it drive. Do you keep using a car or start using it when you knows it'll gona give you a hard head at least once in a week? Do you fix it or will you go to a garage? Cause you don't have the technical ability, does this make you knuckleheads or average Joe users who PAY for making theirs cars run smootly most of the time. Yes, all this has nothing to do in this mailing list, as none of the mails regarding this subject. Keep the good thing up, making linux the best and easy to use OS, and don't forget : up until now you are NOT the average computer user. With my best regards. PS : I'll wait a few day's, hoping this useless discussion is gonna stop. I'ts messing up my mail, so afterwards I'm gonna block this subject. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Tripwire ??
Tripwire is a program that uses cryptographic checksums (like md5, crc32, and SHA1) to perform accounting on the filesystem. Tripwire is generally used to make sure that a program like login, or ps, or netstat isn't substituted for a version that is trojaned, because the MD5 sums on the trojaned version will be different than the MD5 sums on the original program. Coincidently, this is why Linux distributors like Red Hat and Mandrake ALWAYS print MD5 sums for their ISO images avaliable to download. There is also a GPLed replacement for Tripwire, but I don't remember the name of it off hand. Somebody else may know. Tripwire was semi-difficult for me to install the first time. It has a very strange looking configuration file. There is a manual that comes with it. I suggest downloading it and printing it out. It is in PDF format. If you check out Tripwire and decide that it is to hard for you, you can do a poor mans version with find and md5sum... find / -name -print | md5sum md5sums. this will print out md5sums for every file on your disk. Tweak to your hearts content. :-) I would exclude log files, spool directories, and configuration files that you change frequently. The Mandrake security scripts attempt to do some of this by calculating the MD5 sums for SUID and SGID files on your system every night. Dan Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: what is tripwire? I've heard that name before somewhere. -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On 4 Dec 2000 ed had this to say! Hi all I was wondering if anyone here uses tripwire and if so where can i get it and how hard is it to install. thanks all . Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 -- We are Microsoft of Borg You will be assimilated resistance is- Invalid Page Fault in module msborg32.dll
Re: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux
snip I am of the feeling that if Linux, no matter what flavor, were to become "more" new user friendly, or to put it a better way, extreme novice user friendly, then it would no longer "be" linux. It would be Microsoft...or very much like it and not much at all like Linux. snip I can understand what you are saying here, that the face of Linux will change and it will no longer be recognised as the free OS it is now. I disagree as I don't understand how simplifying the installation and use of Linux for basic home users will dramatically alter the foundations of the Linux OS. As mentioned previously by others on the list, Windows is a very easy to use OS - partly the reason why it is so popular with the masses (that and most computer retailers won't provide a system with anything but) - but instability issues are rooted in poor development processes - not useability features. MS's goal is to make sh*tloads more money than anyone, and rush out platforms with the "ehhh, that's good enough, we'll come back later and do some patches" attitude. I don't see Linux being as susceptible to such practices, nothing has to be rushed to meet a deadline, and plenty of damn fine software has come out of it. There's no justifiable reason why Linux can't be more novice-friendly. There's also no reason it should be either, but it cannot be treated as a serious contender in the home PC market if it isn't easily accessible by the general public. Just another 2c worth (have I got enough to buy the car yet?) PS - I know many people may disagree with my comments, and discussion is expected, but hey, Linux isn't about conformity, it's about freedom...
Re: [newbie] goldwave equivalents
phuqwit wrote: Does anyone know of a Linux equivalent sound processing/recording program to Goldwave (for windoze)? I would greatly appreciate any input, seeing as how it is te only app i have yet to find a comparable alternative for. -- Sometimes, I just don't know anymore. Studio works well in combo with kwave on my Mandrake 7.1
[newbie] Help - USB Printer - Urgent
I've connected my Epson Stylus 740 using USB to my LM7.2 m/c How do I go about accessing it. (what device do I use?) I used the same printer sucessfully thru lpd (parallel port) on LM 7.1 After upgrading I want to give the USB support a shot. I'm totally blank on the subject. Any pointers on where to start would be appreciated. Thanks, Ashley. ***Disclaimer*** Please note the following points: * This message and any attachments thereto may contain privileged or proprietary information, and are intended for the sole use of the addressee(s). Total or partial reproduction, communication, distribution or use of this information by persons other than the addressee(s) is prohibited. * If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or message and delete the message from any computer. * This message and any attachments have been scanned by Batelco for malicious code on best efforts basis for your protection. Thank you for your cooperation.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Locks up when installing.
Sirs, I also tried to load MKL7.2 on a Fujitsu HDD of 4.3 GB using a boot floppy made for that purpose. After initially searching for my CDROM drive it said that no hard disk is found on the system. I tried with many utilities to detect the hard disk and none of them could detect it. A similar problem with Seagate Drive was solved easily. I think there are problems with the Fujitsu Drives afterall. I have lost that 4.3 drive and am intending to buy a sea gate hdd of 18 GB capacity.On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Denis: Could you expand on how you arrived at your conclusion? Is there a problem with some or all WD drives and LM7.2? Does it extend to other hard drives? I thought that they were all pretty much the same. While I don't have a WD disk, I have been having problems getting a stable installation of LM7.2 on my Fujitsu 15.3 drive -- gonna make another try tonight -- and I wonder if I've missed something. Regards, cmg - Original Message - From: "Denis HAVLIK" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Bill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Locks up when installing. Probably your WD drive. Compile a kernel for your machine using 7.0 install, dump it on floppy made with "blank.img", and you'll be fine. cu Denis On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Bill wrote: :~I've tried installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 twice now, and it seems to lock up :~everytime right after it detects my hard drives and cd-rom's. It just sits :~there at a flashing prompt after detecting them. I've even waited for 15 :~minutes to see if it will continue. 7.0 will install fine. I have an AMD :~Athlon 500 Mhz on an FIC SD-11 board. 2 western digital HD's 17Gb and :~30Gb, a 4x4x24 R/RW and a 10x DVD-Rom. It does the same thing if I choose :~the lnx4win install. Anyone know what might be happening and what I can :~try to get around it? :~ :~Thanks, :~Bill -- S.Ganesan Senior Scientist Central Institute of Agricultural Engineering Berasia Road Bhopal 462038, INDIA Phone: 0755-730986 (O) 0755-732105 (R) Fax:0755-734016 Email[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Address:http://www.ciae.nic.in
Re: [newbie] how do i get off this mailling list
On Mon, 04 Dec 2000, you wrote: your boyfriends / girlfriends phone number and address and a JPG image of that person. Not too picky, are ya? *grin* -- R. Edward McCain [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 599146 Registered Linux User #196613
[newbie] At last my Pavilion sound is working!
Special thanks to Mark Weaver and sSpoonman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])! Some history first. I have never gotten the sound to work on my son's HP Pavilion 3265. Both the installation procecure and sounddrake failed to detect the on-board audio. A few months ago I put my son's original Win98 HD back in ran the control panel system applet. Scribbled a few notes about the sound "card" and yanked it back out. Never did much after that - just got busy and then lost the paper with the info. Mark and I had a brief e-mail exchange relative to the "gates gets Linux" thread and sound on the Pavilion came up. He felt it might have been an interrupt conflict. I figured I would check it out, maybe after Christmas. But after coming home tonight and checking my mail there was entry in [newbie] from Spoonman with subject = "RE: [newbie] Crystal 4235." Bingo! The nickel dropped as I was pretty sure that had been the name of the sound chip in the Pavilion. So *made* the time to tear the system apart and put the WIn98 HD back in. Sure enough the sound system was "Crystal PnP Audio". H not "4235" or some other number. But I took a flashlight and magnifying glass and checked out the chips. One was labeled "Cyrstal CX4237-X03". Close enough for me. This time I took down *all* the information in the WIn98 Control System applet through. Then yanked the WIn98 drive and put back the Mandrake 7.1 HD. Logged on as root and ran soundrake. It couldn't see anything bit I hit the OK button and it came up and gave me a list. Under Crystal there was 4232 and 4236. Hmmm, what the heck, 4236 is close enough to 4237. Selected that and got a dialog box. made changes to the DMA channel. Hit the test button - nada. Doh!! No speakers. Yanked an old pair of LabTec MCS-600s from the junk box and plugged them in. Hit the test button again - this time something muffled that sounded like speech. Cranked up the volume and tried again - it *was* speech albeit pretty muffled. Said "close enough" and hit the OK button. Put in a CD and am listening to the Bach Brandenbergs on a Synthesizer! Ahhh... life is good. This has been a long post but maybe it will help someone else since my technique certainly wasn't "deep." Cheers and thanks again Mark and Spoonman! -rick
RE: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux
-Original Message- From: David Grubb Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 8:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux I can understand what you are saying here, that the face of Linux will change and it will no longer be recognised as the free OS it is now. I disagree as I don't understand how simplifying the installation and use of Linux for basic home users will dramatically alter the foundations of the Linux OS. -- Dave, I agree with you completely. The proper attitude is that making Linux extremely easy will not (should not!!) SUBTRACT from what is here today! If you enjoy config files and mucking around with parameters - that will all still be there. If you enjoyed CLI work with the shell of your choice - that will still be there. But for the majority of people who are not interested in the "guts" the ease-of-use would be there. Add the "layman apps" that the non-enthusiast might be interested in and suddenly Linux could start to be a real alternative in the consumer market. That would help the consumer and Linux. And... that may be happening with companies like Dell/Compaq/IBM shipping Linux pre-installed. Yes, it's probably mostly servers but that's a start and more than has been there. Think of what would happen if these hardware suppliers start offering consumer packages. My crystal ball is no clearer than anyone else's in this department, but it shouldn't take much imagination to consider the possibilities. -rick
