[newbie] U.S.Robotics/3Com

[R & C]

Hi folks,

The last time I sent in a question about my modem not being detected, I 
found that the modem itself was not compatible w/LM8, it was a winmodem.

I pulled that card out and replaced it w/U.S. Robotics 3Com 56K PCI 
FaxModem, (Performance Pro).

In the documentation that came w/the modem, it tells me to verify, 
(during boot process,) IRQ listing and device name (/dev/ttyX) to insure 
modem is present.

Since the screen scrolls by so fast while loading OS, I had to check it 
out in KDE session.

I went to the ManDrake Control Center and clicked on "Hardware." That 
gave me another "Hardware" option to follow. From there I see that the 
modem was detected during the boot process.

It gave me the information such as Vendor, Model, Kernel Module (which 
by the way is reported as "unknown",) and Bus Type.

This window also prompts me to "Run Configuration Tool," which is the 
HardDrake Config Wizard.

When I do run the wizard, it gives me a list of models and highlights 
the one that looks like the model I have, (all the others listed say's 
their winmodems.) When I OK this, I get another message, (error) that say's:

"I CAN'T CONFIGURE SOFTWARE MODEM COMMONLY CALLED "WINMODEM" GO TO 
HTTP://WWW.. FOR MORE INFORMATION. "

When I bought this modem, I first made sure that it was compatable with 
Linux from internet sites. I also noted that the box or modem packaging 
also stated:

"Works with DOS, Linux, and Windows"

The documentation that came w/the modem states:

"All 2.3 and higher Linux kernels contain the 3Com Linux modem drivers."

I do believe LM8's kernel is higher!

Am I missing something?

Also, when I go to "setup" in dialup, I notice the list of devices range 
from ttys0 - ttys3, but I noticed that the modem was using com 5!

I'm getting there but I get in deeper and deeper into confusion. :)

Would appreciate any assistance with this!

Thanks,

Roger


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Re: [newbie] VIA bug?

[Kirby Urner]

>
>I sent it back, haven't had those kinds of problems with any other MB. The 
>chipset was VIA... ;-(

Thanks for info.  Got mine recently and performance
is satisfactory w/ Redmond OS, but wuz unaware of
VIA north/south bridge probs.  Have since patched
w/ most recent 4-in-1 drivers (4.32) including
'Vendor Support' thingy.

As is often the case, I learn more about Billy's
cash cow too, when hanging w/ the Linux gurus.

Seems most decent thing would be for VIA to address
Linux probs directly by providing drivers the way it
does for the dozers.  K133E (Apollo) is still
considered solid mid-range and Abit boards wind up
in lotsa Linux boxes too.

Using native drivers, I can run all 4 IDE devices
(2 hddr, dvd/cdr, cdrw) in DMA, plus get turbo AGP
w/ 1.2 gig Thunderbird AMD.  All very affordable.
There's better MBs (DDR etc.) out there, but this
is a solid platform with the right patches.  I'd
love to see Mandrake Linux fully enabled hereon --
would move more hardware if it did.  I'll wait
and watch.

Kirby
Abit KT7E MB w/ K133E VIA chipset

Cc:  VIA sales

Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 03:40:23 -0400
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > You face yet another problem.  There is --no ifs
 > ands or buts-- a _hardware problem_ with the 686B
 > southbridge, and another with the KT133A Northbridge.
 > When our 8.0 kernel sees the chipset it will dive
 > into crippled mode with DMA turned off.  hdparm will
 > report it turned on but you will be unable to burn
 > CDRWs and CD-Rs and the behavior will be rather more
 > sluggish than not.




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[newbie] ncftp

[chris swain]

Darn it.
Dont you hate when you look for a help file for 30 min, email someone saying 
you cant find it, then immeadiately get it.  I just needed the 'open' command
Thanks Michael



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Re: [newbie] religion in Linux?!

[Robert Fargher]

On August 14, 2001 10:31 pm, Paul wrote:

> I assume the 'daemon' is because of the fact that it is a program/process
> that is running in memory without a fixed terminal. 

  Daemon = Disk And Environment MONitor

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[newbie] Ximian GNOME for Mandrake 8.0 is out!!!

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

It hasn't been officially released as of yet, but Ximian GNOME for Mandrake 
8.0 is now available.

Binary RPMs can be found at 
ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/ximian/ximian-gnome/mandrake-80-i586/

Source RPMs can be found at 
ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/ximian/ximian-gnome/mandrake-80-i586/source/


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LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
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[newbie] ncftp

[chris swain]

I do have ncftp.

I think you misunderstand the problem. How do I connect, what are the 
commands? There is no help that I can find for the program 



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Re: [newbie] Partition Party

[dic98]

What are /var, /opt and /tmp?  I think I'd like to use all the different types
of partitions to play around with learning more aspects of system
administration, is this a smart idea or just sort of silly?  Thanks for the help.

Isaac



Quoting Michael Scottaline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:19:24 -0400 (EDT)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:
> 
> 
> > Alrighty, I'll put down what I was thinking of doing and you can tell
> me
> > why 
> > it's dumb, why it's perfect, or perhaps just tinker with it a little
> > bit:
> > 
> > / 250MB
> > /swap 200MB
> > /usr 10 Gig
> > /home 9.55 Gig approximately (whatever's left after the others)
> > 
> > Thanks to anyone who actually takes the time to respond to this,
> > Isaac
> ===
> Looks good to me, though you might want to give more space to / if
> you're
> not going to have a separate /var or /opt or /tmp.  650mb might be
> better
> IMHO.  YMMV.
>   Just my US$0.02,
>   Mike
> 
> -- 
> "Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
> -- Kaiser Wilhelm
> 
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Re: [newbie] ftp still

[Michael D. Viron]

Do an 'rpm -qa | grep ncftp' (without the quotes) to see if you have ncftp
installed.  If not, you can find it on your CDs.

Michael
At 01:22 PM 08/18/2001 +0800, chris swain wrote:
>This is what occurs
>
>type 'ncftp sunsite.uio.no'
>
>ncftp: no such command
>
>type 'cd (anything)'
>
>must be connected to do that
>
>So I still need to connect somehow but?
>
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Re: [newbie] Newbie :) WU-FTPD

[Newacct]

On Saturday 18 August 2001 01:43, you wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Newacct wrote:
> > How can I make a secure ftp server on my linux box?
> > Running Mandrake 8, Intel Architecture.
>
> Run ProFTPd. You can find it at rpmfind.net
>
> peace,
>
> Rog


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Re: [newbie] VIA bug?

[Ronald J. Hall]

Kirby Urner wrote:
> 
> I notice Abit KT7A is green lined at Mandrake website,
> meaning tested.  My KT7E uses same VIA KT133E /VIA 686B
> chipset.  So maybe I shouldn't be fearing some VIA bug
> after all (savvy guy Brinkman was suggesting Abits could
> be problematic, yet none of the Soyo MBs listed at
> Mandrake are green lined :-D).

Hi there. Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in. I had a brand new Abit board
with an 850mhz Duron. I turned it back in to TC Computers after being unable
to get it to recognize my Adaptec 2930 card and Plextor SCSI CDRW. Worse than
that, when I stuck a generic IDE CD-ROM in there just to install Mandrake 8.0,
I would get all the way through the installation, then when prompted to
reboot, would get a black screen, with no recovery possible.

I sent it back, haven't had those kinds of problems with any other MB. The
chipset was VIA... ;-(

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Re: [newbie] Newbie :) WU-FTPD

[Roger Sherman]

On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Newacct wrote:

> How can I make a secure ftp server on my linux box?
> Running Mandrake 8, Intel Architecture.
>
>

Run ProFTPd. You can find it at rpmfind.net

peace,

Rog





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[newbie] Mailing list in Spanish.

[X - A - W - K]

Hola,
 
Se nota que hay bastante gente que habla español en 
la lista.
 
A lo mejor se podría hacer nuestra propia lista 
como la tienen los italianos
 
Qué piensan?
 
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Re: [newbie] VIA bug?

[x]

On Saturday 18 August 2001 05:23, Kirby Urner wrote:
> >This is (halfway) fixed in our most recent kernel update, meaning
> >we have a workaround for the _hardware_ bug, but not a high-
> >performance one.  Your computer will seem fairly normal, having
> >jumped from 1.8Mb/S to 13.40Mb/s ide read speed as measured by the
> >benchmark programs, but will be well below the expected benchmarks
> >of 31.9 to 36.2 Mb/S as is usual for udma4 or udma5 operation.
> >
> >Civileme
>
> OK, that persuades me to hold off on an install of 8.0
> for now.
>
> I'm glad MDK is working on this issue, although I'm curious
> as to why the green line on the Abit KD7A at the MDK
> website, as it uses these North/South Bridge thingys.
> Seems an asterisk and your kinda clear statements would
> be more forthcoming.
>
> Question:  is it expected that eventually there'll be a
> full fix?  I'm under the impression (perhaps uneducated),
> that WinMe is getting the fast Mb/S throughput, i.e. at
> least in principle there's a way to milk these chips for
> what they're reputedly worth, bugs notwithstanding.
>
> Kirby
The green line says it is tested and working, not how fast it works.  We are 
using dodges to keep from massive data corruption.  On the other hand, unless
you update the BIOS or apply the fix for windows from VIA, you could have
your computer reset itself in the midst of a 100Mb file copy traching quite
a lot of data in the process.

Civileme



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Re: [newbie] ftp

[Michael D. Viron]

Try ncftp.  Connect, change to the directory above the one you are
interested in, and then run get -R -T dirname (where dirname is the name of
the directory).  This will get all available update packages at one time.

Michael

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At 10:41 AM 08/18/2001 +0800, chris swain wrote:
>I have never used ftp before and I am having trouble downloading some
upgrade 
>packages which seem to be in ftp format. All I get is a list of files ( in 
>this case .rpm s)  which I can down load one at a time. Is there an easier 
>way to do this?




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Re: [newbie] Partition Party

[Michael Scottaline]

On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:19:24 -0400 (EDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:


> Alrighty, I'll put down what I was thinking of doing and you can tell me
> why 
> it's dumb, why it's perfect, or perhaps just tinker with it a little
> bit:
> 
> / 250MB
> /swap 200MB
> /usr 10 Gig
> /home 9.55 Gig approximately (whatever's left after the others)
> 
> Thanks to anyone who actually takes the time to respond to this,
> Isaac
===
Looks good to me, though you might want to give more space to / if you're
not going to have a separate /var or /opt or /tmp.  650mb might be better
IMHO.  YMMV.
Just my US$0.02,
Mike

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RE: [newbie] IP Masquerade LM 8.0

[Nadin Merali]

Hey

>From what I understand, there is no ipchains in 2.4, they use iptables.
Below are two links, one to a script and one to an article which goes in
depth. (I haven't read it, I found another script and just used it).  

http://www.bastille-linux.org/jay/soho-iptables-nat.txt
http://securityportal.com/articles/netfilter20010219.html

You can also go to http://ipmasq.cjb.net/ (Linux IP Masqurade Resource)
for info on iptables and netfilters.  All I know is that you have to
install iptables and then just use a script.  I can get a more hardcore
security script if you want.  LM 8.0 has an Internet Sharing option
(similar to windows 98 second edition and win me).  It is in the control
center under internet (I think).  However it is not very secure( I don't
even know if it counts as a firewall)

Good luck

Nadin

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Sent: August 17, 2001 10:00 PM
To: Linux Newbie
Subject: [newbie] IP Masquerade LM 8.0

Has anyone successfully set up IP Masquerade under Mandrake 8.0?
The most current HOWTO doesn't address this particular kernel.
Where does one go for information?

Thanks,

Michael







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[newbie] Re: modem

[unclerichard]

Hi, I've just installed MD8 and am naturally on a steep learning curve. My
first problem is getting my modem operational I know Linux is not good with
winmodems which I have. Before going down the replacement road with my modem
where do you suggest I look for possible drivers?

The modem is a Gateway GVC 56K (flex). I'm told the Lucent Tech. drivers
might possibly work.

TIA

Richard Innes
Auckland New Zealand
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[newbie] IP Masquerade LM 8.0

[Michael Picco]

Has anyone successfully set up IP Masquerade under Mandrake 8.0?
The most current HOWTO doesn't address this particular kernel.
Where does one go for information?

Thanks,

Michael





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Re: [newbie] removing boot manager

[Richie de Almeida]

You can configure a bootdisk from Mandrake Control Center.  You can also 
uninstall LILO by runnnig /sbin/lilo -U /dev/hda.  You might also want to run 
fdisk and make sure your win98 partition is marked as the active/bootable 
partition.  Booting up with a win98 rescue disk and typing SYS C: will also 
set win98 back as the bootable partition.

Richie


On August 17, 2001 03:10 pm, Dean Morrell wrote:
> I installed Mandrake 8.0 a couple days ago.  What a ride.  I installed it
> on a machine with Win98se already running.  Now, I like the os, but I don't
> want a boot manager on this system.  I'd much rather boot from a floppy to
> access the os.  Can someone help with removing the boot manager and then
> configuring to boot to Mandrake 8 from floppy?
>
> Dean
>
> -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
>
> "The way I see it, there were two great triumphs, two things that I'm
> proudest of. One is the economic recovery, in which the people of America
> created - and filled - 19 million new jobs. The other is the recovery of
> our morale. America is respected again in the world and looked to for
> leadership." -Ronald Reagan's Farewell Address



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Re: [newbie] VIA bug?

[civileme]

On Friday 17 August 2001 21:06, Kirby Urner wrote:
> I notice Abit KT7A is green lined at Mandrake website,
> meaning tested.  My KT7E uses same VIA KT133E /VIA 686B
> chipset.  So maybe I shouldn't be fearing some VIA bug
> after all (savvy guy Brinkman was suggesting Abits could
> be problematic, yet none of the Soyo MBs listed at
> Mandrake are green lined :-D).
>
> AMD brags about Apollo chipset here:
> http://www.amd.com/news/prodpr/20114.html (June last year)
> recommends KT7 Socket A MBs here:
> http://www1.amd.com/athlon/mbl/index/1,1503,,00.html
>
> If there was some disconnect between AMD and Abit over
> VIA/Apollo chipset, I don't find any mention at the
> website.
>
> So I guess I'll try to install 8.0 after all, now that
> I've fixed the silly floppy disk problem.  Fingers
> crossed.  No wait, still need a good MDK install disk.
> I'm going .iso right now, try before buy.
>
> Kirby

You face yet another problem.  There is --no ifs ands or buts-- a _hardware problem_ 
with the
686B southbridge, and another with the KT133A Northbridge.  When our 8.0 kernel sees 
the chipset
it will dive into crippled mode with DMA turned off.  hdparm will report it turned on 
but you will
be unable to burn CDRWs and CD-Rs and the behavior will be rather more sluggish than 
not.

This is (halfway) fixed in our most recent kernel update, meaning we have a workaround 
for the 
_hardware_ bug, but not a high-performance one.  Your computer will seem fairly 
normal, having
jumped from 1.8Mb/S to 13.40Mb/s ide read speed as measured by the benchmark programs, 
but will be
well below the expected benchmarks of 31.9 to 36.2 Mb/S as is usual for udma4 or udma5 
operation.

Civileme


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[newbie] Is there a way to get the DNS for a dial-up connection?

[emammendes]

Hello

I hope I am firing a stupid question but I wonder how I could know the DNS
address of my ISP..

Many thanks

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Re: [newbie] Two newbie Q's

[Richie de Almeida]

Like some of the other responses have said, you're best bet is to find a way 
to get your high-speed on Linux but in the meantime if you must download from 
Windoze just save it to a FAT or FAT32 partition as its the only FS Windows 
has in common with Linux...

Richie

On August 17, 2001 01:41 pm, Mitchell, Edmund wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Trying to round out my Linux education (this may take a few years ;>)):
>
> On bootup, I can save a second or two by stopping the process(?) daemon(?)
> that's checking to see if I have installed or removed any hardware.  I
> think it's either harddrake or kudzu, but one (I think) is very important,
> and the other is only necessary if I change some hardware, so I don't want
> to guess wrong.  Can someone tell me which is which?
>
> My other O$ on this dual-boot machine has a very fast internet connection
> that doesn't support Linux, so I'd like to download, e.g., the new KDE rpms
> with it.
> I can see the files from Linux, but can I move them to the Linux partition,
> and if so, will they install correctly?  Is there any voodoo I should know
> about first?
>
> Thanks muchly
>
> Edmund
>
> P.S.  Oh yeah, what's a bogomip, and is it good or bad that my box has 4300
> of them? thanx-



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[newbie] Ugly solution to printing found, but I need something better

[Dr. Evil]

I have figured out a way to print from StarOffice under Mandrake8.0:

In StarOffice, print to a file, which generates a postscript file.

Take that file and use gs -sDEVICE=pngmono to generate a png file.

Use Imagemagick to resize the file to a smaller size.

Open the file with Konqueror and print.

And then it prints!

However, there must be an easier way to do this?  If GS can display it
as a binary, and Mandrake can somehow print binary images from
Konqueror, then surely it must be possible to print the binary
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Re: [newbie] Not prompted for additional cds (resubmitted)

[civileme]

On Friday 17 August 2001 20:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> // sorry if this is bad ettiquette but i'm resubmitting something i sent
> // to the list three or four days ago and didn't get a response
> // if that's not ok please let me know just for the future
> // i really need help with this because i've got mission-critical apps
> // on the extra cds and it wont let me install off of them
> // thanks again, as always...
>
> I'm reinstalling 7.2 on a pretty old box ("Eve" - 266 MHz PII, 32MB Ram,
> junker Everex Monitor, etc) and I am not getting asked whether or not I
> have the other cds (I have the boxed version with 7 cds).  I started an
> install on the computer right beside it ("Speedy Gonzalez" - 866MHz PIII,
> 256 MB Ram, etc) and I got prompted about the other cds right off without
> any trouble.  So my problem is I can't install all the packages and
> software I want and need because it doesn't ask me for the other cds that
> are ready and waiting to be used.  Two points of note:
>
> 1.  It did the same thing the first time I installed it (on "Eve", "Speedy"
> was and has always been fine), I just want to take advantage of this
> reinstall to get it right.  (original install was a week or so ago, for
> what it's worth)
>
> and 2.  I get warned about being low on system resources at the beginning
> of the install, but I completed it with the graphical installation when I
> originally installed the system, even tested X a few times without ever
> hanging.  I can go through a text install but I don't get prompted for it
> there either.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Regards,
> Isaac
>
>
I suppose no one wants to ask how much of that 32Mb is shared by Video memory.

Your machine has either inadequate or defective memory for a full graphical install, 
which 
is why hdlists is truncated.  The other explanation is that your newer CD drive reads 
the
media well and the older one misses in the critical area of hdlists  (and we have seen 
exactly
this behavior on certain types of defective media).


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Mandrakesoft SA
Paris


>
> "We are convinced that freedom without socialism is privilege and
> injustice, and that socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality."
>
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Re: [newbie] Ugly fonts - Anti-aliasing

[Richie de Almeida]

Not all fonts are created equal!  Some are bitmap-based and I don't think 
anti-aliasing applies to them-- try to favour the adobe type fonts or 
true-type fonts as these are vector based and they will look better even 
without anti-aliasing.

If you're running KDE, you can get a little extra help by running the Control 
Center and in the Look'n'Feel under the Fonts option see that the "Use 
anti-aliasing for fonts" is checked then verify the fonts that you are using 
in the boxes above...

Richie

On August 17, 2001 10:21 am, Guilherme Cirne wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I read on the Mandrake website
> (http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/features.php3) that "anti-aliasing is
> integrated into Linux-Mandrake 8.0 to provide a nice improvement in how
> fonts are displayed." But on my system the fonts look very ugly. One
> example that comes to mind is the Add New Printer dialog in Kups. But like
> this one there are several other places where fonts look terrible.
>
> Can anyone help me? Maybe I have to install a package which didn't get
> installed by default?
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Guilherme Cirne
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: [newbie] cdrom device busy

[Dennis Myers]

On Friday 17 August 2001 15:30, you wrote:
> Thanks,  I did what you said and it worked.  However I put that cd I
> just burned back in to read it, and the problem happened again.  It
> seems to be something about that cd.  I don't know if that makes any
> sense, but it seems to freeze the device up.
> SW
>
Ok, maybe try opening the /mnt/cdrom  in root console mode. If it works ok 
there then there is a permissions problem not hardware or configuration.  
Put the CD in the device and go su  password  and then /mnt/cdrom
and see what opens up.  Onward and upward.
-- 
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Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

[JDRadio]

Peter,
When you boot the boot disk, it should come to a prompt boot:
type linux 
and it should now be booting.


Carroll is right about the VIA bug but don't know if it applies as
you never said what the motherboard chipset was, or I missed it as I had to
reinstall linux CAUSE I downloaded and installed the latest
Mandrake FREQ dated 8-10-01 and it was worse then the last
Freq update dated 06-01 so buyer beware...
Also 3 others had the same problems.
DO NOT INSTALL MANDRAKE FREQ 8-10-01..

By the way KDE 2.2 is out and that looks great but I haven't installed 
it yet..
(I wonder why?)

JoeD



Peter Rymshaw wrote:

> Thanks Carroll:
> 
> I didn't know about this, but bookmarked it so I can
> apply it later. Right now I'm having problems with
> lilo and cab only access rescue command line, from
> which I have been shutting down by ctrl-alt-del. The
> problem has never shown up with this or a "Restart"
> shutdown, so I couldn't test the results if I did it
> now.
> 
> Whenever I get lilo working (can't seem to find
> lilo.conf)...
>  
> --- Carroll Grigsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Peter:
>> Maybe you've already sorted this out, but just in
>> case go to
>> nlpagan.net/linux.htm. Towards the end of the page
>> (look for a link to
>> Mandrake User Organization), there's a note about
>> repairing this problem
>> that affects some VIA-based systems. I've never
>> found out why it works,
>> but it does.
>> Regards,
>> Carroll
>> 
>> Peter Rymshaw wrote:
>> 
>> big snip
> 
>>> Here is what it said when it stopped the
>> 
 shutdown:
 
>>> Code: Bad EIP value.
>>> /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line 1: 4054
>> 
>> Segmentation
>> 
>> fault
>> 
>>> halt -i -d -p
>>> -
>>> 
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Re: [newbie] Not prompted for additional cds (resubmitted)

[Dennis Myers]

On Friday 17 August 2001 19:22, you wrote:
> >I'm reinstalling 7.2 on a pretty old box ("Eve" - 266 MHz PII, 32MB
> > Ram, junker Everex Monitor, etc) and I am not getting asked whether
>
> How much hard drive space ya got?  Maybe install is thinking
> by the time you get the basic install done, there's no room
> left for the fancy/extra stuff.  Just a shot in the dark
> from another [newbie].
>
> Kirby


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Kirby has it pegged I'll bet. If you have a 1 or 2 gig hard drive in that 
puppy there won't be enough room to do the other CD's. If it is 4 gig you 
could do it and I wouldn't have a clue as to why it won't prompt. Are you 
doing an expert install?
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Re: [newbie] VIA bug?

[Kirby Urner]

I notice Abit KT7A is green lined at Mandrake website,
meaning tested.  My KT7E uses same VIA KT133E /VIA 686B
chipset.  So maybe I shouldn't be fearing some VIA bug
after all (savvy guy Brinkman was suggesting Abits could
be problematic, yet none of the Soyo MBs listed at
Mandrake are green lined :-D).

AMD brags about Apollo chipset here:
http://www.amd.com/news/prodpr/20114.html (June last year)
recommends KT7 Socket A MBs here:
http://www1.amd.com/athlon/mbl/index/1,1503,,00.html

If there was some disconnect between AMD and Abit over
VIA/Apollo chipset, I don't find any mention at the
website.

So I guess I'll try to install 8.0 after all, now that
I've fixed the silly floppy disk problem.  Fingers
crossed.  No wait, still need a good MDK install disk.
I'm going .iso right now, try before buy.

Kirby




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Re: [newbie] Uninstalling Windows

[Richie de Almeida]

Typically deleting the partition is not enough, I recommend performing 
exorcism if one truly wants to banish Windows from whence it came...

Richie 

On August 16, 2001 09:22 am, Jesse Hepburn wrote:
> Does anyone know how I would go about uninstalling windows?  Can I just
> delete the partition and remove the mount point and lilo entry, or is it
> more complicated?
>
> Cheers,
> Jesse



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[newbie] Re: {newbie] Is swap being used?

[alex]

> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The general response to complaints that MDK 8.0 is slow seems to be to
> > install more ram. 
> > 
> > I realize that ram is inherently faster than swap and swap is only
> > supposed to supplement existing ram. If adding more ram increases the
> > speed but just using a larger swap provides no benefit, is it possible
> > that swap isn't being used at all?   How can swap be checked to
> > determine if it is doing what it is supposed to do?
> > 
> > 

Wisdom from Mike

> Try running top
> Mike
 
Very good
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> If you use KDE desk top, click on the K panel >control center > 
> information>memory  you will see the physical memory(RAM) and Buffer 
> memory MB and Swap.  I have 320 MB of RAM and for the most part it goes 
> unused with the programs I run.  The graphics of the Memory Information 
> App are fun though.  HTH.  
> -- 
> Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842

Outstanding graphic display of RAM and SWAP usage.

With 64 MB RAM and 188 MB swap,   RAM usage never went over 99% and swap
never went over 8% when tested with various programs.  Seems that I
won't 
benefit much from more RAM and SWAP could be smaller.
---
Wisdom from Joan
> 
> 
> I use gkrellm to know what the system load is...  try it!  ;)

Nice compact display of all kinds of load information.
---
Very very interesting---all three.  I discovered my 64 MB RAM was being
used at 
about 94% and my 188 MB swap about 1%.



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Re: [newbie] Swap Space

[dic98]

Okay, I think I've got my head wrapped around the whole swap size issue.  Let's
play the game of I say what I think swap is, and then you either pat me on the
head or break out the dunce cap.  Here goes:

The point of swap is to serve as a safety net for RAM, when you're all out of
RAM your computer swaps data in and out of the /swap partition to make sure only
the most active programs are getting the best electronic real estate.  It's
generally a good idea to have twice the swap space as you have RAM space, up to
about 200 megabytes of swap.  (here's the thing I've been confused about...)
While it's never a bad thing to have too much swap, the x2 up to 200 rule serves
to make sure you have at least enough swap.  If you have more swap than you need
it's not a bad thing, the only reason it would be bad is if you actually needed
that 17 gigs of swap.  If you needed more than 200MB of swap then you should be
upgrading your RAM, but if you have 512MB of RAM for your glorified word
processor and you want 1700MB of swap just because you like the cute little
green block in diskdrake, there's nothing wrong with having all that unused
swap.  The reasons for saying not to have more than 200MB of swap are:

1.  if you need more than 200MB, you ought to go buy more RAM, and
2. if you don't need more than 200MB, you are wasting disk space that could be
going to other partitions

How'd I do?  Thanks for putting up with me, the thing I have been hung up on was
why too much could be bad.

Frequently,
Isaac



Quoting Sridhar Dhanapalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> If you're using over 200MB of swap, your system would be moving slower
> than 
> some continents. There is nothing really _wrong_ in having over 200MB of
> 
> swap, but there would be nothing to gain. If you need over 200MB
> (assuming 
> you have a decent level of RAM), either you're doing something _very_ 
> memory-intensive (e.g. running a busy server) or (more likely) there is
> 
> something wrong (like a rogue process or a memory leak).
> 
> In other words, the 200MB swap limit is simply a rule-of-thumb based on
> 
> practicality. You don't need to follow it to-the-letter, but you most
> likely 
> won't gain anything by having anything bigger. In fact, since
> filesystems 
> tend to become slower as thet become larger, your system could even slow
> down.
> 
> RAM is relatively cheap nowadays. The best thing you can do to increase
> your 
> system speed would be to have enough RAM so that you don't need and swap
> at 
> all.
> 
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Good helpful example.  I use ten desktops: 2 for monitoring, one for
> > superuser terminal, one for email, one for instant messaging, 2 for
> > browsing, one for writing programs, one non-superuser terminal for
> running
> > them, and one for home directory.  Yes, I realize this is sort of
> > outrageously spread out but I'm just sort of playing right now to get
> a
> > feel for how I'd like to use the desktops and the Linux software. 
> My
> > question is: since having all these things open only ever uses 250MB,
> do I
> > follow the rule proposed here of adding some arbitrary percent of
> swap, or
> > do I use the other rule of RAM x 2 up to 200MB?  My most important
> question
> > is WHY WOULD MORE SWAP BE BAD?  Are there really inefficiencies with
> more
> > swap?  Why would 256M of RAM + 20M of swap behave better than 256M of
> RAM +
> > 10 gigs of swap?  I'm using extreme examples, but I'm just trying to
> wrap
> > my head around why there is a cap to the amount of swap you would
> want
> > (other than the fact you've got limited hard disk real estate, but
> assume
> > that wasn't an issue...).
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Isaac
> >
> > Quoting Travis Olds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > This has me curious.  If I don't need much swap, should I not
> make
> > >
> > > much swap?
> > >
> > > > Or is there no upper limit?  If it's the more the marrier, why
> not
> > >
> > > always just
> > >
> > > > make, say, 500MB?
> > >
> > > The point of swap space is to allow you to have more programs
> > > `running'
> > > than you can actually fit in your physical memory. If you have
> swap,
> > > when
> > > you exaust all of your physical memory the OS can "swap to disk"
> those
> > > bits of memory that are not actually being accesses. In this way
> the
> > > fact
> > > that they are not in physical memory and are on slow disk doesn't
> > > matter
> > > because that bit of memory is not being accessed. When it does need
> to
> > > be
> > > accessed it gets swapped back in and seomething else is swapped
> > > out.
> > >
> > > Determining th right amount of swap space is really black
> > > magic. It should be the case that swap + phyical + (some margin of
> a
> > > few
> > > %) = the total amount of memory used by all applications you might
> wish
> > > to
> > > have running at the one time. If you've already got a linux box
> then
> > > just
>

[newbie] Printing from StartOffice?

[Dr. Evil]

I am currently using Mandrake with StarOffice.  I can create and print
documents easily from Kword, but StarOffice does a much better job
importing MS documents, so I would like to be able to print from
that.  However, I can't print from it.  Also, when I save the
documents as Postgscript, the Postscript also doesn't print.  It just
does nothing.  This is with a Deskjet 882C.  Ghostscript is installed,
and it does work to display the documents, but they don't print.  Some
postscript files do print, but none generated by StarOffice or
enscript for example.

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[newbie]

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Re: [newbie] Not prompted for additional cds (resubmitted)

[Kirby Urner]

>
>I'm reinstalling 7.2 on a pretty old box ("Eve" - 266 MHz PII, 32MB Ram, 
>junker Everex Monitor, etc) and I am not getting asked whether

How much hard drive space ya got?  Maybe install is thinking
by the time you get the basic install done, there's no room
left for the fancy/extra stuff.  Just a shot in the dark
from another [newbie].

Kirby




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[newbie] Not prompted for additional cds (resubmitted)

[dic98]

// sorry if this is bad ettiquette but i'm resubmitting something i sent
// to the list three or four days ago and didn't get a response
// if that's not ok please let me know just for the future
// i really need help with this because i've got mission-critical apps
// on the extra cds and it wont let me install off of them
// thanks again, as always...

I'm reinstalling 7.2 on a pretty old box ("Eve" - 266 MHz PII, 32MB Ram, junker 
Everex Monitor, etc) and I am not getting asked whether or not I have the other 
cds (I have the boxed version with 7 cds).  I started an install on the 
computer right beside it ("Speedy Gonzalez" - 866MHz PIII, 256 MB Ram, etc) and 
I got prompted about the other cds right off without any trouble.  So my 
problem is I can't install all the packages and software I want and need 
because it doesn't ask me for the other cds that are ready and waiting to be 
used.  Two points of note:

1.  It did the same thing the first time I installed it (on "Eve", "Speedy" was 
and has always been fine), I just want to take advantage of this reinstall to 
get it right.  (original install was a week or so ago, for what it's worth)

and 2.  I get warned about being low on system resources at the beginning of 
the install, but I completed it with the graphical installation when I 
originally installed the system, even tested X a few times without ever 
hanging.  I can go through a text install but I don't get prompted for it there 
either.

Any ideas?

Regards,
Isaac



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and that socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality."

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Re: [newbie] PROBLEM: Installing XMMS 1.2.5

[s]

It seems to be looking for an older version that what we have on 8.0.  Just a 
suggestion, try finding the mandrake rpm equivalent on rpmfind.net or one 
might be listed in the software manager if you configured an update or cooker 
site (tho there will probably be other dependency problems with cooker).
-s


On Friday 17 August 2001 05:48 pm, you wrote:
> HI 2 EVERYONE,
> I finally got my Audio Galaxy Satellite to work thanks to those who helped
> me, so I thank all of U :)  However, now I want to install the latest
> version of XMMS (1.2.5) but when I run the " ./configure " command it gave
> me an eeror message. These R the last lines it gave me :

>:(
> Thank U in Advance,




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[newbie] PROBLEM: Installing XMMS 1.2.5

[TezcatlipocA]

HI 2 EVERYONE,
I finally got my Audio Galaxy Satellite to work thanks to those who helped 
me, so I thank all of U :)  However, now I want to install the latest version 
of XMMS (1.2.5) but when I run the " ./configure " command it gave me an 
eeror message. These R the last lines it gave me :
checking how to run  the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for pthread.h... yes
checking for glib-config... no
checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.2... no
*** The glib-config  script  installed by GLIB could not be found
*** If the Glib was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
*** your path, or set the GLIB_CONFIG environment variable to the
*** full path to glib-config.
configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***

Hoever, I DO HAVE the GLIB library installed. I have version 1.2.8-2mdk and 
XMMS requires >= 1.2.2 !!! On the File List for my GLIB Library I have the 
following files but I DON'T see the so called " glib-config " script 
required!!!
/usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0
/usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0.0.8
/usr/lib/libgmodule-1.2.so.0
/usr/lib/libgmodule-1.2.so.0.0.8
/usr/lib/libgthread-1.2.so.0
/usr/lib/libgthread-1.2.so.0.0.8
/usr/share/doc/glib-1.2.8
/usr/share/doc/glib-1.2.8/AUTHORS
/usr/share/doc/glib-1.2.8/COPYING
/usr/share/doc/glib-1.2.8/ChangeLog
/usr/share/doc/glib-1.2.8/NEWS
/usr/share/doc/glib-1.2.8/README

WHAT CAN I DO??? I AM FRUSTRATED BY NOW!!! I HAVE SPEND HOURS FINDING A WAY 
TO SOLVE IT READING MY LINUX USER MANUAL BUT NOTHING!!! PLEASE HELP :(
Thank U in Advance,
-- 
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Re: [newbie] cdrom device busy (OT}

[Dennis Myers]

I know, I know, see my last message, I was using Outlook at work and the 
dang thing reverted to HTML on me.  This is embarrassing, like passing gas 
in an elevator, everyone knows who did it. :  (  Sorry again,


On Friday 17 August 2001 15:12, you wrote:
> Dennis.
> Shame on you.
> You're sending in HTML.
>
>Charles  ((-:
>
>
> Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.
>
>

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Re: [newbie] modem

[Dennis Myers]

On Thursday 16 August 2001 17:04, you wrote:
> HI,
> I use a Zoom external V.92 and works great.
> Linux had no problems with it( under $100)
>
>
> Have a great day
> Robert F. Trettel
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dean Morrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 5:26 PM
> Subject: [newbie] modem
>
> > I've got an old 56k winmodem.  Any recommendations for a replacement
>
> that'll work with Mandrake 8?  Price is an issue...
>
> > Dean
> >
> > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
> >
> > "Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers."
> > - Voltaire
>
> 
> 
>
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I bought a external 56k Best Data serial modem on E-bay for $24 U.S. and 
it worked out of the box. Designated "Smart one 56spx". small and light 
doesn't take up any room to speak of.  A Jaton communicator internal ISA 
modem also works well. Depending on Motherboards I have found that the ISA 
modems with jumpers are the ones that work best. You can set the IRQ and 
port yourself.  I have one that is jumperless and only works with Plug n 
pray set to on in Bios which can screw up some other things, so I stick to 
the external.  Anyway, take a look at E-bay if you want cheap, alot of 
people just getting cable or DSL are getting rid of perfectly good modems. 
Just be carefull and do your homework to make sure you get one that is a 
true modem and not a winmodem.  HTH,
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Re: [newbie] modem

[dic98]

I second the motion.  I've got a Zoom 56Kx Dualmode External, it rules.  I 
connect at 37/38 to my local provider with the kppp set to 57600 (turned out to 
be the best speed for me) and it gives a rock solid 6kbps transfer rate.  It 
cost like $50, so it wasn't bad at all.

Peace,
Isaac



Quoting "Robert F. Trettel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> HI,
> I use a Zoom external V.92 and works great.
> Linux had no problems with it( under $100)
> 
> 
> Have a great day
> Robert F. Trettel
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dean Morrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 5:26 PM
> Subject: [newbie] modem
> 
> 
> > I've got an old 56k winmodem.  Any recommendations for a replacement
> that'll work with Mandrake 8?  Price is an issue...
> >
> > Dean
> >
> > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
> >
> > "Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers."
> > - Voltaire
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> > Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
> >
> 
> 
> 



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Re: [newbie] Two newbie Q's

[etharp]

On Friday 17 August 2001 13:41, Mitchell, Edmund wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Trying to round out my Linux education (this may take a few years ;>)):
>
> On bootup, I can save a second or two by stopping the process(?) daemon(?)
> that's checking to see if I have installed or removed any hardware.  I
> think it's either harddrake or kudzu, but one (I think) is very important,
you don't need kudzu each startup
> and the other is only necessary if I change some hardware, so I don't want
> to guess wrong.  Can someone tell me which is which?

> My other O$ on this dual-boot machine has a very fast internet connection
tell us more about the connection, it "might" have more support than you 
think.
> that doesn't support Linux, so I'd like to download, e.g., the new KDE rpms
> with it.

cp works from winders to linux for me, just cp them to your home
 I can see the files from Linux, but can I move them to the Linux partition,
> and if so, will they install correctly?  Is there any voodoo I should know
> about first? yes, coffee is very important especially on cold days 

> Thanks muchly
>
> Edmund
>

> P.S.  Oh yeah, what's a bogomip, and is it good or bad that my box has 4300
> of them? thanx-
Bogomips = bogus (as in made up) millions of instructions per second. just a 
measurement of speed of nothing, so the computer timing will be correct.

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[newbie] Partition Party

[dic98]

Okay, I'm about to reinstall my Mandrake system off of my 7.2 cds and I'd like 
to hear people's recommendations on partition sizes and any specific files I 
should make sure I have.  Just FYI I've got the whole box set with all seven 
cds.  There will be two frequent users of this system and four less common 
ones.  I'll be networking the box to another Mandrake system as well as two 
Windows comps, setting up ip masquerading and running dns, using it as an smtp 
server with either exim or sendmail (recommendations, anyone?), digital music 
production and mixing, learning to program in c and java and hopefully lots of 
other languages soon, as well as all your basic household functions like 
gaming, word processing, internet (ppp til October then DSL), cd burning, etc.  
I've also got Windows 98 running on a seperate hard drive, if it matters to 
anyone.  

So, I'll give you my system specs and I'd be really interested in 
recommendations for which partitions to include and what sizes to make them, as 
well as what programs I should have on it that I might otherwise not know to 
include.  Another nice thing would be any known issues about hardware 
optimizations, like why does my NVidia card not handle TuxRacer and why does my 
sound suck even after patching with the VT82cxxxa download.  The last thing for 
people to keep in mind is that I'm going to want to be doing LOTS of tinkering 
with this, downloading tons of upgrades and new programs etc, if that's 
important at all.  Okay, here's the specs, and then anyone who's got as much 
free time as I do can shower me with their infinite wisdom:

Intel Pentium III 866MHz
256 MB RAM
20 Gig 7200 speed Hard Drive
8x4x32 HP 9100 series CD-Rom
NVidia GeForce2 32MB Graphics Card
Abit VH6-II Motherboard with VIA chipset
3Com 3C450 10/100 Ethernet Card (3c59x compatible)
Zoom 56K External Modem

Alrighty, I'll put down what I was thinking of doing and you can tell me why 
it's dumb, why it's perfect, or perhaps just tinker with it a little bit:

/ 250MB
/swap 200MB
/usr 10 Gig
/home 9.55 Gig approximately (whatever's left after the others)

Thanks to anyone who actually takes the time to respond to this,
Isaac



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Re: [newbie] modem

[Robert F. Trettel]

HI,
I use a Zoom external V.92 and works great.
Linux had no problems with it( under $100)


Have a great day
Robert F. Trettel


- Original Message -
From: "Dean Morrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 5:26 PM
Subject: [newbie] modem


> I've got an old 56k winmodem.  Any recommendations for a replacement
that'll work with Mandrake 8?  Price is an issue...
>
> Dean
>
> -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
>
> "Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers."
> - Voltaire
>
>
>
>






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Re: [newbie] modem

[civileme]

On Friday 17 August 2001 17:26, Dean Morrell wrote:
> I've got an old 56k winmodem.  Any recommendations for a replacement
> that'll work with Mandrake 8?  Price is an issue...
>
> Dean
>

Devoid of any manuals or other throwaway items, and some marked as 33.6 but
all 56K and ISA and internal  (make sure your mobo has a black slot for it).  To 
install,
set it for 

http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=VSP56I

Amazingly, at this same place I am finding an _EXTERNAL_ non-USB modem from
ELSA that requires Win95/98/2K and a sound card to operate  --an external non-USB 
winmodem!!!
.

..The junk parade continues to intensify as computer electronics sinks to lows 
consumer electronics
cannot hope to emulate despite the best hopes of their marketing departments...



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Re: [newbie] anybody use jed?

[civileme]

On Friday 17 August 2001 16:15, Mark Johnson wrote:
> I'm trying to use jed with brief emulation.  I added this to my .jedrc
> file:
>
>() = evalfile ("brief");
>
> but it doesn't seem to take...  any suggestions?


Oh yes, one more suggestion

http://ibogeo.df.unibo.it/guido/jed-quickref.html

Pretty nice for most jed uses

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Re: [newbie] anybody use jed?

[civileme]

On Friday 17 August 2001 16:15, Mark Johnson wrote:
> I'm trying to use jed with brief emulation.  I added this to my .jedrc
> file:
>
>() = evalfile ("brief");
>
> but it doesn't seem to take...  any suggestions?


First of all, that's already there if you 

cp /usr/share/jed/lib/jed.rc /home/yourusername/.jedrc

And all you do is uncomment it, _BUT_

Here is the line from the file
%For Wordstar like bindings, comment out EDT and Emacs lines and
%uncomment Wordstar line.  A similar statement applies for BRIEF,
%and for Borland IDE-like bindings.
%
I am not sure if Brief will work even if you commnt out EDT and Emacs lines and
uncomment the Brief line, because it says" MSDOS only !!"

For an editor I can customize to other keybindings, I generally reach for joe.  For
quick edits or where memory or space is at a premium, I use jed for its emacs-like 
capabilities, where others might try vim.

%
%  () = evalfile("emacs");   % Emacs-like bindings
%  () = evalfile("edt"); % EDT emulation
%  () = evalfile ("ide");% Borland IDE (see also doc/ide-mode.txt) $
%  () = evalfile ("brief");  % Brief Keybindings (MSDOS only!!)
%  () = evalfile("wordstar");% obsolete --- use ide instead)
%  () = evalfile ("cua");% CUA-like key bindings
%  Note: For EDT emulation, jed386.exe requires that the GOLD.COM TSR
%be loaded.  This TSR is available from space.mit.edu:/pub/davis/jed.

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[newbie] modem

[Dean Morrell]

I've got an old 56k winmodem.  Any recommendations for a replacement that'll work with 
Mandrake 8?  Price is an issue...

Dean

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RE: [newbie] removing boot manager

[Dean Morrell]

Neat, Sweet, Petite.  Good to go on all fronts.  Thanks for the help.  (I understood 
the first time :)

At 12:32 PM 8/17/2001 -0700, you wrote:

>Did you make a boot floppy during the initial installation? If so you are good to go. 
>If not go to Mandrake control center>boot>make boot floppy or something 
>close to that(I'm not at the linux computer yet) Make the boot floppy for the 
>partition you set it to and then log off. If you already have the floppy made go 
>directly to this step and that is boot up with the MS start up floppy in and go to 
>dos prompt on boot. In Win98 it just takes a ctrl-F5 to get the a: prompt 
>but at any rate, once you are at the command prompt type "fdisk /mbr" and you will 
>have the normal windows boot back.  Slip in the floppy and boot and you 
>will get a lilo prompt to boot linux. That's how it should work if everything is set 
>the same on your machine as is on mine. HTH  Dennis M.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
>Behalf Of Dean Morrell
>Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:10 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [newbie] removing boot manager
>
>I installed Mandrake 8.0 a couple days ago.  What a ride.  I installed it on a 
>machine with Win98se already running.  Now, I like the os, but I don't want a
>
>boot manager on this system.  I'd much rather boot from a floppy to access the os.  
>Can someone help with removing the boot manager and then configuring to
>
>boot to Mandrake 8 from floppy?
>
>Dean
>
>-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
>
>"The way I see it, there were two great triumphs, two things that I'm proudest of. 
>One is the economic recovery, in which the people of America created - and 
>filled - 19 million new jobs. The other is the recovery of our morale. America is 
>respected again in the world and looked to for leadership."
>
>-Ronald Reagan's Farewell Address
>


Dean

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is the economic recovery, in which the people of America created - and filled - 19 
million new jobs. The other is the recovery of our morale. America is respected again 
in the world and looked to for leadership."
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Re: [newbie] VIA bug?

[Tom Brinkman]

On Friday 17 August 2001 02:02 pm, Kirby Urner wrote:

> Yes, I have reconfigured ME to do a DOS-style boot, allowing
> non-Windows access to DOS prompt if I want it.
>
> >config conflict. Just make sure you have a Mandrake boot floppy
> > handy so you can rerun 'lilo' to restore lilo to the mbr.
>
> Is there a way to ditch lilo and get the old mbr back, in
> case I want the old mbr w/o lilo?  If I get into deep doodoo
> w/ MDK, I'm hoping to get back to mono-boot, after which
> I could zap the ext2 partition using Partition Magic.

Normal advice is to use your Windoze boot floppy and run 
'fdisdk /mbr' from a DOS prompt.  Since you've fixed windoze to boot to 
DOS, just do that and type 'fdisk /mbr'.  
-- 
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Re: [newbie] cdrom device busy

[civileme]

On Friday 17 August 2001 15:22, Scott wrote:
> After sending the last message I sutdown the system.  It took several tries
> to log out and then on shutdown it stopped at an error message that said
> "Kernel Panic" and "Supermount Panic".  I finally shut off the power and
> started back up again.
> SW
>
> On Friday 17 August 2001 15:07, you wrote:
> > I just unstalled a cd rewriter (running 8.0) and was just burning a cd
> > for the first time.  After I did this I put in a cd and tried to read the
> > contents by clicking on the desktop shortcut.  The window never opened.
> > (I have already done: "cd /dev && rm cdrom && ln -s scd0 scdrom" and the
> > shortcut was working fine.)  I rebooted and noticed a line saying the
> > device was busy as it shut down. After reboot it worked OK one time and
> > then same as before.  If try to unmount :  "umount /mnt/cdrom
> >   umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is
> > busy". Does anyone know what's up?
> > Thanks,
> > SW
>

Use this as root

# supermount -i disable

then delete the desktop icons for floppy and CD and CDRW and make them again.  This
means you will MANUALLY mount and unmount devices rather than depend on
supermount to do it for you.  Clicking on the icon mounts them, and selecting the icon 
unmounts
(or right clicking and selecting unmount or eject).

supermount was really written for 2.2 and the best kludge patch for 2.4 unraveled 
after a little
stress from some types of hardware.  Supermount is being totally rewritten, and even 
the
beta we just issued does not have it in the kernel yet.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake and Oracle

[A V Flinsch]

On Friday 17 August 2001 15:14, Dorian_750 wrote:

> Is there a detailed install for Mandrake 8.0 and Oracle 8i?  I have 
> tried and failed to install on 8.0.

There is no detailed set of instructions available for Oracle8i on 
Mandrake 8.0, exactly what problems are you having?

-- 
Alex

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Unsurprisingly, that's incorrect; LINUX was released on August 25th,
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Re: [newbie] jerky mouse movement

[civileme]

On Friday 17 August 2001 14:55, Jay Latham wrote:
> I've just switched from Debian to Mandrake 8.0 on this computer mainly
> because I could never get sound to work with Debian. I'm a little confused
> because debian puts most of it's config files in different directories than
> mandrake so for give me if I ask a really dumb question.
>
> After installing mandrake everything seemed to work, including sound except
> for the mouse. It moves in a jerky fashion and sometimes it doesn't move at
> all. When I  use mousedrake or harddrake it seems to work for a few
> movements then it reverts back to the jerky motion.
>
> The mouse is a standard ps/2 mouse with wheel connected to /dev/psaux. In
> debian this is usually caused by a conflict between X and a program called
> gpm but I don't think gpm is installed in this case. At least it's not
> listed in the software manager.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas I could try?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jay
in
/etc/X11/XF86Config or /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, whichever is appropriate, change the 
mouse from Emulate 3 buttons (which is what interferes with the wheel).

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Re: [newbie] anybody use jed?

[A V Flinsch]

On Friday 17 August 2001 16:15, you wrote:
> I'm trying to use jed with brief emulation.  I added this to my .jedrc
> file:
>
>() = evalfile ("brief");
>
> but it doesn't seem to take...  any suggestions?
First copy the /usr/share/jed/lib/jed.rc file to ~/.jedrc
then edit it.

I usually use the WordStar/Borland type bindings, and according to the 
comments in the jed.rc file, the brief bindings are only available in 
MSDOS.


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Re: [newbie] Ugly fonts - Anti-aliasing

[Guilherme Cirne]

At 08:45 17/08/01 -0600, you wrote:
>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>Hash: SHA1
>
>On Friday 17 August 2001 08:32, Adams, Jamie gave up his right to remain
>silent by saying:
> > The Anti-Aliased fonts are not activated by default.
> >
> > I dont know if they work in Gnome, but if you wantt hem activated in
> > KDE, open the Kde Control Center , head to 'Look and Feel' and theres an
> > option in there somewhere to use Anti-Aliased fonts.
> >
> > You will have to restart X to see the effect.
> >-- Jamie
> >
>
>It's under style, not fonts

Thanks, that did it!

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Re: [newbie] Re: Mozilla/Java symbolic link

[Ola Lidén]

No, Java is still not working. I run Mozilla nightly build 2001081008, but I 
had the same problem with 0.9.3. I have made the symlink corect. But I have 
not installed Java, only downloaded and unpacked "jre.xpi" should I do any 
instalation of Java?
Ola

On Thursday 16 August 2001 09:29, you wrote:
> (I ended up deciding to send this to the whole list because it's helpful
> for anyone downloading non-rpm versions of Mozilla... I had to do it on
> Debian)
>
> Dear Ola,
>
> Once you've done what they told you already you need to go to your mozilla
> directory (hopefully /usr/local/mozilla) and go into the plugins folder. 
> Here you want to make a link to a plugin in your java folder.  The name
> might be slightly different depending on what your java folder is named,
> mine looks like this:
>
> /usr/jre1.3.1/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so
>
> That file, the libjavaplugin_oji.so in /plugin/i386/ns600 of your java
> directory is the one you need to have a link to in the mozilla plugins
> directory to enable java for mozilla.  The way to do this without having to
> use command line is by opening the home directory, navigating to your
> /mozilla/plugins folder and right-clicking the background, choosing "create
> new" and "application".  Under the general tab name it libjavaplugin_oji.so
> and under execute put the full location of that file in the java folder
> (like the line I wrote out above).
>
> If I've explained anything poorly just yell at me.  Also yell at me if it
> doesn't work.
>
> In Solidarity,
> Isaac
>
>
>
> << Ok It was me who asked about java in Mozilla. I have some difficulties
> in writing in english but I try. I believe I have done the right thing with
> the symlink??? But it dont work.
> By the way, e-mail trouble. As I wrote have I been using Mozilla since
> milestone4, first in Windows and now in both windows and linux. I get all
> my e-mail in linux and most of the web browsing to. I do download the
> Mozilla nightly builds sometimes so i get new wersions of Mozilla often.
> Because of that I have stoped to use Mozilla as my mailprogram, I use
> K-mail. Maybe K-mail is not the best mailprogram there are but I have not
> loosed any mail.
>
> It would be nice to get java working in mozilla so I can cotinue with
> downloading and trying nightly builds.
>
> Ola
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Re: [newbie] cdrom device busy

[Scott]

Thanks,  I did what you said and it worked.  However I put that cd I just 
burned back in to read it, and the problem happened again.  It seems to be 
something about that cd.  I don't know if that makes any sense, but it seems 
to freeze the device up.  
SW

On Friday 17 August 2001 15:45, you wrote:
> Hi, looking at the first message was the soft link listed a typo when you
> show "scd0 scdrom"?  it should have been "...cdrom". I did not have to
> do this with my install, but that is neither here nor there. Since you had
> it going it made the link so what I would do is make a new desktop short
cut. Go to an empty place on the desktop with the pointer and right click.
> On the pop up select "make new cdrom device" or what ever it says. It will
> pop up a new box change the title to your choice, like "CDRW" click on
> execute and then the selection arrow and select the /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
> line (sorry I'm not at my linux computer so that may be a paraphrase).
> Selecting that will add the link to the desk top. then click on the desktop
> icon symbol and it will start loading application icons, click on the arrow
> you want device icons, select the cd burner mount icon click on it and then
> click ok and you should have a new desktop icon that actually works. Need
> any help with this come on back to the list, HTH Dennis M.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:23 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] cdrom device busy
>
>
> After sending the last message I sutdown the system.  It took several tries
> to log out and then on shutdown it stopped at an error message that said
> "Kernel Panic" and "Supermount Panic".  I finally shut off the power and
> started back up again.
> SW
>
> On Friday 17 August 2001 15:07, you wrote:
> > I just unstalled a cd rewriter (running 8.0) and was just burning a cd
> > for the first time.  After I did this I put in a cd and tried to read the
> > contents by clicking on the desktop shortcut.  The window never opened.
> > (I have already done: "cd /dev && rm cdrom && ln -s scd0 scdrom" and the
> > shortcut was working fine.)  I rebooted and noticed a line saying the
> > device was busy as it shut down. After reboot it worked OK one time and
> > then same as before.  If try to unmount :  "umount /mnt/cdrom
> >   umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is
> > busy". Does anyone know what's up?
> > Thanks,
> > SW
>
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Re: [newbie] jerky mouse movement

[Miark]

Try mousedrake for which you may have to su first. Your
mention of /dev/psaux is curious. From mousedrake I just
choose "wheel mouse" and I'm good to go.

Miark


- Original Message -
From: Jay Latham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:55 PM
Subject: [newbie] jerky mouse movement


> I've just switched from Debian to Mandrake 8.0 on this
computer mainly
> because I could never get sound to work with Debian. I'm a
little confused
> because debian puts most of it's config files in different
directories than
> mandrake so for give me if I ask a really dumb question.
>
> After installing mandrake everything seemed to work,
including sound except
> for the mouse. It moves in a jerky fashion and sometimes
it doesn't move at
> all. When I  use mousedrake or harddrake it seems to work
for a few movements
> then it reverts back to the jerky motion.
>
> The mouse is a standard ps/2 mouse with wheel connected to
/dev/psaux. In
> debian this is usually caused by a conflict between X and
a program called
> gpm but I don't think gpm is installed in this case. At
least it's not listed
> in the software manager.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas I could try?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jay
>
>






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[newbie] anybody use jed?

[Mark Johnson]

I'm trying to use jed with brief emulation.  I added this to my .jedrc file:

 () = evalfile ("brief");

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RE: [newbie] cdrom device busy (OT}

[Charles A Edwards]

Dennis.
Shame on you.
You're sending in HTML.

   Charles  ((-:


Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Myers, Dennis R NWO
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 3:46 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] cdrom device busy


Hi, looking at the first message was the soft link listed a typo when you
show "scd0 scdrom"?  it should have been "...cdrom". I did not have to
do this with my install, but that is neither here nor there. Since you had
it going it made the link so what I would do is make a new desktop short
cut. Go to an empty place on the desktop with the pointer and right click.
On the pop up select "make new cdrom device" or what ever it says. It will
pop up a new box change the title to your choice, like "CDRW" click on
execute and then the selection arrow and select the /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
line (sorry I'm not at my linux computer so that may be a paraphrase).
Selecting that will add the link to the desk top. then click on the desktop
icon symbol and it will start loading application icons, click on the arrow
you want device icons, select the cd burner mount icon click on it and then
click ok and you should have a new desktop icon that actually works. Need
any help with this come on back to the list, HTH Dennis M.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] cdrom device busy


After sending the last message I sutdown the system.  It took several tries
to log out and then on shutdown it stopped at an error message that said
"Kernel Panic" and "Supermount Panic".  I finally shut off the power and
started back up again.
SW
On Friday 17 August 2001 15:07, you wrote:
> I just unstalled a cd rewriter (running 8.0) and was just burning a cd for
> the first time.  After I did this I put in a cd and tried to read the
> contents by clicking on the desktop shortcut.  The window never opened.
> (I have already done: "cd /dev && rm cdrom && ln -s scd0 scdrom" and the
> shortcut was working fine.)  I rebooted and noticed a line saying the
> device was busy as it shut down. After reboot it worked OK one time and
> then same as before.  If try to unmount :  "umount /mnt/cdrom
>   umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is busy".
> Does anyone know what's up?
> Thanks,
> SW

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Re: [newbie] Other screens than :0?

[emammendes]

Hi ya

That is exactly what I want. I don't think I need a second video card.

I can get full screen with vmware but I can'get fwin (full screen for
win4lin). I think fwin tries to start a new virtual screen and my video card
won't allow it.

How to put display 1 on tty8?


Many thanks

Eduardo


- Original Message -
From: "Sridhar Dhanapalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jesse Hepburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 3:53 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Other screens than :0?


> Do you need a second card? I thought you could just place display 1 on a
> different tty. For example, if display 0 is on tty7 (accessible with
> ctrl-alt-F7) than you can put display 1 on tty8 (accessible with
> ctrl-alt-F8). I haven't tried it with different X displays, but I can do
this
> with VMware virtual machines.
>
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:46, Jesse Hepburn wrote:
> > The :0 represents display 0 on your system.
> > If you had a second graphics card you could use :1 to display on that
> > monitor (with the second card)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jesse
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul
> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 11:26 PM
> > To: newbie
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Other screens than :0?
> >
> > It was Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:44:25 -0500 when emammendes wrote:
> > >Hello
> > >
> > >I tried what you said but the same error came out.  I have attached the
> >
> > log
> >
> > >file in case you want to have a look.
> > >
> > >Many thanks
> > >
> > >Eduardo
> >
> > I had a look, but I am not that much an expert on the technicalities...
> > I hope
> > someone else can get you out of this problem.
> >
> > Paul
>
> --
> Sridhar Dhanapalan.
> "There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
> LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
> -- Jeremy S. Anderson
>
>






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RE: [newbie] removing boot manager

[Myers, Dennis R NWO]

Title: RE: [newbie] removing boot manager





Should have proof read before I sent the message, it sounds a bit confusing now that I read it. Look for the words linux boot floppy for clarification. Also to the list I appologize if I've been sending HTML the dang windows machine reverted on me again and I didn't notice nor check it.  Soy!  Dennis M.

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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:32 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] removing boot manager



Did you make a boot floppy during the initial installation? If so you are good to go. If not go to Mandrake control center>boot>make boot floppy or something close to that(I'm not at the linux computer yet) Make the boot floppy for the partition you set it to and then log off. If you already have the floppy made go directly to this step and that is boot up with the MS start up floppy in and go to dos prompt on boot. In Win98 it just takes a ctrl-F5 to get the a: prompt but at any rate, once you are at the command prompt type "fdisk /mbr" and you will have the normal windows boot back.  Slip in the linux boot  floppy and boot and you will get a lilo prompt to boot linux. That's how it should work if everything is set the same on your machine as is on mine. HTH  Dennis M.

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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:10 PM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: [newbie] removing boot manager 



I installed Mandrake 8.0 a couple days ago.  What a ride.  I installed it on a machine with Win98se already running.  Now, I like the os, but I don't want a 

boot manager on this system.  I'd much rather boot from a floppy to access the os.  Can someone help with removing the boot manager and then configuring to 

boot to Mandrake 8 from floppy? 
Dean 
-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- 
"The way I see it, there were two great triumphs, two things that I'm proudest of. One is the economic recovery, in which the people of America created - and filled - 19 million new jobs. The other is the recovery of our morale. America is respected again in the world and looked to for leadership."

-Ronald Reagan's Farewell Address 

RE: [newbie] cdrom device busy

[Myers, Dennis R NWO]

Title: RE: [newbie] cdrom device busy





Hi, looking at the first message was the soft link listed a typo when you show "scd0 scdrom"?  it should have been "...cdrom". I did not have to do this with my install, but that is neither here nor there. Since you had it going it made the link so what I would do is make a new desktop short cut. Go to an empty place on the desktop with the pointer and right click. On the pop up select "make new cdrom device" or what ever it says. It will pop up a new box change the title to your choice, like "CDRW" click on execute and then the selection arrow and select the /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom line (sorry I'm not at my linux computer so that may be a paraphrase). Selecting that will add the link to the desk top. then click on the desktop icon symbol and it will start loading application icons, click on the arrow you want device icons, select the cd burner mount icon click on it and then click ok and you should have a new desktop icon that actually works. Need any help with this come on back to the list, HTH Dennis M.

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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [newbie] cdrom device busy



After sending the last message I sutdown the system.  It took several tries 
to log out and then on shutdown it stopped at an error message that said 
"Kernel Panic" and "Supermount Panic".  I finally shut off the power and 
started back up again.  
SW


On Friday 17 August 2001 15:07, you wrote:
> I just unstalled a cd rewriter (running 8.0) and was just burning a cd for
> the first time.  After I did this I put in a cd and tried to read the
> contents by clicking on the desktop shortcut.  The window never opened.
> (I have already done: "cd /dev && rm cdrom && ln -s scd0 scdrom" and the
> shortcut was working fine.)  I rebooted and noticed a line saying the
> device was busy as it shut down. After reboot it worked OK one time and
> then same as before.  If try to unmount :  "umount /mnt/cdrom
>   umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is busy".
> Does anyone know what's up?
> Thanks,
> SW



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RE: [newbie] removing boot manager

[Myers, Dennis R NWO]

Title: RE: [newbie] removing boot manager





Did you make a boot floppy during the initial installation? If so you are good to go. If not go to Mandrake control center>boot>make boot floppy or something close to that(I'm not at the linux computer yet) Make the boot floppy for the partition you set it to and then log off. If you already have the floppy made go directly to this step and that is boot up with the MS start up floppy in and go to dos prompt on boot. In Win98 it just takes a ctrl-F5 to get the a: prompt but at any rate, once you are at the command prompt type "fdisk /mbr" and you will have the normal windows boot back.  Slip in the floppy and boot and you will get a lilo prompt to boot linux. That's how it should work if everything is set the same on your machine as is on mine. HTH  Dennis M.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dean Morrell
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] removing boot manager



I installed Mandrake 8.0 a couple days ago.  What a ride.  I installed it on a machine with Win98se already running.  Now, I like the os, but I don't want a 

boot manager on this system.  I'd much rather boot from a floppy to access the os.  Can someone help with removing the boot manager and then configuring to 

boot to Mandrake 8 from floppy?


Dean


-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-


"The way I see it, there were two great triumphs, two things that I'm proudest of. One is the economic recovery, in which the people of America created - and filled - 19 million new jobs. The other is the recovery of our morale. America is respected again in the world and looked to for leadership."

-Ronald Reagan's Farewell Address

Re: [newbie] cdrom device busy

[Scott]

After sending the last message I sutdown the system.  It took several tries 
to log out and then on shutdown it stopped at an error message that said 
"Kernel Panic" and "Supermount Panic".  I finally shut off the power and 
started back up again.  
SW

On Friday 17 August 2001 15:07, you wrote:
> I just unstalled a cd rewriter (running 8.0) and was just burning a cd for
> the first time.  After I did this I put in a cd and tried to read the
> contents by clicking on the desktop shortcut.  The window never opened.
> (I have already done: "cd /dev && rm cdrom && ln -s scd0 scdrom" and the
> shortcut was working fine.)  I rebooted and noticed a line saying the
> device was busy as it shut down. After reboot it worked OK one time and
> then same as before.  If try to unmount :  "umount /mnt/cdrom
>   umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is busy".
> Does anyone know what's up?
> Thanks,
> SW


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RE: [newbie] Mandrake and Oracle

[Dorian_750]

Is there a detailed install for Mandrake 8.0 and Oracle 8i?  I have tried
and failed to install on 8.0.

Thank you,
Dorian

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Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake and Oracle


On Wednesday 15 August 2001 20:07, Miark wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> A friend of mine asked me to recommend a Linux distribution that would
> best work with an Oracle database. I normally recommend Mandrake for
> anything and everything, but I don't know squat about databases, and I
> figured he deserves a more thoughtful answer.
>
> His question, specifically, was whether RedHat-based or SuSE would be
> better. SuSE advertises Oracle support on their web site, but I can't
> find any mention of Oracle at Mandrake's site.
>

There is no official Oracle / Mandrake support, but it does work.
Oracle installed whithou a problem on versions of Mandrake prior to 8.0.
With 8.0, some glibc tweaking needs to be done.


1 - update to glibc-2.2.2-5mdk this is the latest one released by
Mandrake and was specifically issued for the oracle installer problem
(one of them)


2 - if you need to run dbassist (to create a database), get the
glibc-2.1.3-stubs.tar.gz fix
from otn, to find it, go to the same page you can download 8.1.7 from
(IOW a pain to get to)


3 - install 8i, but do not create the database

4 - apply the stubs patch from Oracle, make sure that you read the
instructions!

5 - run dbassist and create the database.

At this point, oracle was running, but any access to it gave "oracle not
available" errors. Shutting down oracle and restarting it fixed the
problem, whatever it was.


If you need dretails on WebDB or De6i, just ask.



--
Alex

Steve Balmer, CEO of Microsoft, recently referred to LINUX as a cancer.
Unsurprisingly, that's incorrect; LINUX was released on August 25th,
1991 and is therefore a Virgo.






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[newbie] removing boot manager

[Dean Morrell]

I installed Mandrake 8.0 a couple days ago.  What a ride.  I installed it on a machine 
with Win98se already running.  Now, I like the os, but I don't want a 
boot manager on this system.  I'd much rather boot from a floppy to access the os.  
Can someone help with removing the boot manager and then configuring to 
boot to Mandrake 8 from floppy?

Dean

-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-

"The way I see it, there were two great triumphs, two things that I'm proudest of. One 
is the economic recovery, in which the people of America created - and filled - 19 
million new jobs. The other is the recovery of our morale. America is respected again 
in the world and looked to for leadership."
-Ronald Reagan's Farewell Address





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[newbie] cdrom device busy

[Scott]

I just unstalled a cd rewriter (running 8.0) and was just burning a cd for 
the first time.  After I did this I put in a cd and tried to read the 
contents by clicking on the desktop shortcut.  The window never opened.
(I have already done: "cd /dev && rm cdrom && ln -s scd0 scdrom" and the 
shortcut was working fine.)  I rebooted and noticed a line saying the device 
was busy as it shut down. After reboot it worked OK one time and then same as 
before.  If try to unmount :  "umount /mnt/cdrom
  umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is busy".
Does anyone know what's up?
Thanks,
SW



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Re: [newbie] VIA bug?

[Kirby Urner]

>There were more including the Abit's, but they were
>dropped by AMD from approval at the same time the VIA-IDE bug started
>being hyped last March.

Sorry to learn that, as this is what I've got.  Sounds like
MDK8.1 might have some fixes/workarounds.  Thinking to wait.

>   I don't think dma is your ME problem. As Civileme alluded to,

I don't have an ME problem (yet).  I haven't even
installed MDK yet (have to get another install CD if I do).
But I was reading about the slow-down and wondering what's
ahead.


>Another thing you might try is to fix, clean and optimize the
>registry. On ME it takes a hack, but you can still boot straight to a
>pure DOS prompt, no winblows overhead present or active. From that


Yes, I have reconfigured ME to do a DOS-style boot, allowing
non-Windows access to DOS prompt if I want it.

>config conflict. Just make sure you have a Mandrake boot floppy handy
>so you can rerun 'lilo' to restore lilo to the mbr.
> >


Is there a way to ditch lilo and get the old mbr back, in
case I want the old mbr w/o lilo?  If I get into deep doodoo
w/ MDK, I'm hoping to get back to mono-boot, after which
I could zap the ext2 partition using Partition Magic.



>I'd suggest a $6 Mitsumi
>--


I was too lazy to drive to Fries and supported the local
mom & pop computer store by buying their $20 TEAC.  Coulda
gone a lot cheaper I realize, but I only had to walk a
block -- and the floppy drive situation seems resolved.

So now I'm pondering waiting for 8.1 to address the Abit
issues (same as Southbridge chipset issues?).

Thanx for your extremely knowledgable feedback BTW.  What
makes a distro is the community that supports it.

Kirby





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Re: [newbie] WinME slowdown after MDK install

[civileme]

On Friday 17 August 2001 13:36, you wrote:
> Not quite sure I follow you here...
>
> Shutdown the machine, then do what from there?
>
> Direct boot?  Boot from a win boot disk?
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> -ed-
>
Boot from LILO to windows after doing a power-down.  Your hard disks could
be "keeping" the mode they had set in linux.

BTW the VIA82C686B Southbridge is the culprit but our patch affected more VIAs than 
that.

The new kernel update should fix, watch www.mandrakeforum.com for announcements.

Civileme



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Re: [newbie] VIA bug?

[Kirby Urner]

>>
>> Either you are ME are wrong then, 'cause that's sound
>> >
>
>System Properties includes these entries:
>
>VIA Tech VT82C686 PCI to ISA bridge
>VIA Tech VT82C686 Power Management Controller

Wait, I get it.  This is about talking to my ISA Ensoniq
sound card yes?  Anyway, is this info sufficient to prove
I have VIA bus in any case?  I guess I need to dig out
MB manual if I want to know more about chipsets.

>> I have exactly the same setup, 2 HDD's on ide0 and CD and CDR on
>>ide1. I do a lot of large transfers and CD burning and I've yet to
>>experience any VIA bug.  Some motherboards (Abit) are reported to be
>>more susceptible.


Now I'm abit worried :-D  When installing the new floppy
drive just now (which appears to have resolved the problem),
I noticed the Abit logo on my fan.  So that's what I've got.
So maybe I'm in for a rough ride?  Is this "bug" unique to
MDK8?  How easy is it going to be to restore the system to
pre-dual-boot if I find MDK is incompatible?

Kirby




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Re: [newbie] WinME slowdown after MDK install

[Ed Colmar]

Not quite sure I follow you here...

Shutdown the machine, then do what from there?

Direct boot?  Boot from a win boot disk?

Thanks for the help!

-ed-


>
>  > Excuse my jumping in here, but, did you load LM 8.0 and do you have the
>>  infamous via 686b southbridge chipsets on the computers. I am no expert
>>  but would LM 8 disabling DMA carryover to the windows boot? That may be
>>  what slowed down the system.  This is just speculation on my part, cause
>>  I'm no expert. Maybe Tom Brinkman or one of the other hardware gurus knows
>>  for sure.
>
>
>Dennis has a good point.  Earlier I worked with one SONY model where 
>hardware changes
>made by linux were not reset by a warm boot, so a reboot to windows 
>was impossible
>because the processor (which comes up in 80286 compatibility mode) 
>could not be talked
>out of 386 protected mode and would not allow 286 instructions to 
>try to manipulate A20
>and higher address lines.
>
>Try a reboot with a power down and a direct boot to windows.  The 
>PIO disk mode settings might
>be carrying over.  We should have out a kernel that fixes this 
>problem in a matter of days.
>
>Civileme
>
>
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Re: [newbie] VIA bug?

[Kirby Urner]

At 11:44 AM 8/17/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>On Friday 17 August 2001 09:56 am, Kirby Urner wrote:
> > I have 2 hdd on IDE 1, cdrw & cdr on IDE 2.  I've created
> > a linux partition + swap on 2nd hdd.  Is infamous VIA bug
> > going to be problematic (that's my bus) VT82C686 is what
> > windows ME properties says.
>
> Either you are ME are wrong then, 'cause that's sound
> >

System Properties includes these entries:

VIA Tech VT82C686 PCI to ISA bridge
VIA Tech VT82C686 Power Management Controller

> > haven't tried MDK8 yet.  floppy old and corrupting disks
> > (new machine but migrated drive), but after I get new one,
> > want to go ahead.
>
>The over hyped VIA IDE bug affects your hardware, not OS.  It can
>affect large cross IDE file tranfers with WinME just as much as any
>Linux distro or versions of.  Probly more so since Windoze finds ways
>to corrupt file transfers with any chipset.
>
> I have exactly the same setup, 2 HDD's on ide0 and CD and CDR on
>ide1. I do a lot of large transfers and CD burning and I've yet to
>experience any VIA bug.  Some motherboards (Abit) are reported to be
>more susceptible. A pci SB Live! sound card is also reported to
>specially aggravate the bug. I have a Soyo which is approved by AMD for
>the cpu I have (1.4 Tbird), and nothin SB.  Go ahead and install 8.0
>and try to ignore the VIA bug hype. Also, it might not be your floppy
>that's bad, could be Windoze. 'Course floppy drives are only $5 up too.
>--
>Tom Brinkman   Galveston Bay

Your setup sounds close to mind (1.3 Tbird) with AMD-approved MB.

The cdr is actually a cdr/dvd combo, and I have DMA checked
or else dvd play is jerky.

Someone above posted about Linux turning off DMA on bootup,
trying to explain a WinME slow-down.  If that happens at the
lilo stage, then will I find DMA unchecked even on booting
into ME I wonder?

Could be right about floppy prob being Windows-related.  I'll
swap in a new one and find out -- if same prob, then I have
extra floppy to commit to my slowly emerging Linux box :-D

Kirby




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[newbie] Audio conference

[Jason Guidry]

sice we've had some on and off-list discussion of audio and linux, I'd like
to point some of you to

http://www-ccrma.stanford.edu/workshops/linux2001/

I will definately be spending some time here.  as soon as the hell that is
the first few weeks of school dies down.  This is particularly exciting, as
the people who are brilliant enough to both compose music and develope music
software are few and far between.  I know this, because even though I'm an
accomplished composer, I am being put to task by C++.  perl isn't so bad,
though :)

enjoy!



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RE: [newbie] VIA bug?

[Jason Guidry]

>That message indicates a defective disk--register your
>product and notify tech support.  We have replacements.

aaahh.  I think that's why the GPL is more customer service friendly.
but apparently it also takes people who know how to serve.

It may seem simple, but I've had my experience with idiot software
companies* who can't stand up for their crappy product.

maybe it's just easier to stand up for mandrake :)
*jason*breaks*out*into*song*


*www.pyware.com



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Re: [newbie] Audiograbbers and tape media

[s]

On Friday 17 August 2001 10:41 am, you wrote:
> Im looking for a program that will allow me to grab audio from a cassette
> player and store it as a music file of some description.  Windows has a
> prog called cooledit which does this but linux should have something
> similar.

I know cdparanoia will grab music off a cd, I assume it will off a cassette.  
It should be on your mandrake discs, and there's a manual for it. 
man cdparanoia

There's also a gui frontend for it on the discs too.  grip.
-s




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Re: [newbie] Ugly fonts - Anti-aliasing

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

For the moment, anti-aliasing is only officially supported in QT-based 
applications, which includes anything made with KDE. GTK+ (the base of GNOME) 
does not have anti-alaising in an official release yet. The GTK+ 2.x 
development series has had it for a while, though, and should have a stable 
release by the end of the year. Nautilus, however, does have anti-aliasing.


On Sat, 18 Aug 2001 00:32, Adams, Jamie wrote:
> The Anti-Aliased fonts are not activated by default.
>
> I dont know if they work in Gnome, but if you wantt hem activated in
> KDE, open the Kde Control Center , head to 'Look and Feel' and theres an
> option in there somewhere to use Anti-Aliased fonts.
>
> You will have to restart X to see the effect.
>-- Jamie
>
> >--
>
> From: Guilherme Cirne[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> >Reply To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent:17 August 2001 15:21
> >To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [newbie] Ugly fonts - Anti-aliasing
> >
> ><>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I read on the Mandrake website
> >(http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/features.php3) that "anti-aliasing is
> >integrated into Linux-Mandrake 8.0 to provide a nice improvement in how
> >fonts are displayed." But on my system the fonts look very ugly. One
> >example that comes to mind is the Add New Printer dialog in Kups. But like
> >this one there are several other places where fonts look terrible.
> >
> >Can anyone help me? Maybe I have to install a package which didn't get
> >installed by default?
> >
> >Thanks for any help,
> >
> >Guilherme Cirne
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
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LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
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[newbie] Audiograbbers and tape media

[chris swain]

Im looking for a program that will allow me to grab audio from a cassette 
player and store it as a music file of some description.  Windows has a prog 
called cooledit which does this but linux should have something similar.




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Re: [newbie] Is swap being used?

[Joan Tur]

alex escribió:

> How can swap be checked to
> determine if it is doing what it is supposed to do?

I use gkrellm to know what the system load is...  try it!  ;)


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Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

[Peter Rymshaw]

Thanks Carroll:

I didn't know about this, but bookmarked it so I can
apply it later. Right now I'm having problems with
lilo and cab only access rescue command line, from
which I have been shutting down by ctrl-alt-del. The
problem has never shown up with this or a "Restart"
shutdown, so I couldn't test the results if I did it
now.

Whenever I get lilo working (can't seem to find
lilo.conf)...
 
--- Carroll Grigsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter:
> Maybe you've already sorted this out, but just in
> case go to
> nlpagan.net/linux.htm. Towards the end of the page
> (look for a link to
> Mandrake User Organization), there's a note about
> repairing this problem
> that affects some VIA-based systems. I've never
> found out why it works,
> but it does.
> Regards,
> Carroll
> 
> Peter Rymshaw wrote:
> > 
>  big snip
> >
> > > > > > Here is what it said when it stopped the
> > > shutdown:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Code: Bad EIP value.
> > > > > > /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line 1: 4054
> Segmentation
> > > > >
> > > > > fault
> > > > >
> > > > > > halt -i -d -p
> > > > > > -
> > > > > >
> 
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[newbie] VIA bug?

[Kirby Urner]

I have 2 hdd on IDE 1, cdrw & cdr on IDE 2.  I've created
a linux partition + swap on 2nd hdd.  Is infamous VIA bug
going to be problematic (that's my bus) VT82C686 is what
windows ME properties says.

haven't tried MDK8 yet.  floppy old and corrupting disks
(new machine but migrated drive), but after I get new one,
want to go ahead.

Kirby

ps:  also had earlier question re 'unable to decompress
to 2nd RAM drive' when booting MDK8 install cd.  then goes
to normal install screen.  I'll try that again to get text
of error message exact.  wondered about that.




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RE: [newbie] Ugly fonts - Anti-aliasing

[Adams, Jamie]

The Anti-Aliased fonts are not activated by default.

I dont know if they work in Gnome, but if you wantt hem activated in
KDE, open the Kde Control Center , head to 'Look and Feel' and theres an
option in there somewhere to use Anti-Aliased fonts.

You will have to restart X to see the effect.
   -- Jamie

>--
>From:  Guilherme Cirne[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Reply To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent:  17 August 2001 15:21
>To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject:   [newbie] Ugly fonts - Anti-aliasing
>
><>
>Hi,
>
>I read on the Mandrake website 
>(http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/features.php3) that "anti-aliasing is 
>integrated into Linux-Mandrake 8.0 to provide a nice improvement in how 
>fonts are displayed." But on my system the fonts look very ugly. One 
>example that comes to mind is the Add New Printer dialog in Kups. But like 
>this one there are several other places where fonts look terrible.
>
>Can anyone help me? Maybe I have to install a package which didn't get 
>installed by default?
>
>Thanks for any help,
>
>Guilherme Cirne
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Re: [newbie] Open hardware (and graphics cards)n

[paul rodríguez]

Thanks, Sridhar.  These were some pretty cool sites, I particularly
liked the first one, never seen that one before.  What I was really
looking for, however, was whether or not there was a site that
specifically listed hardware that not only was linux comptable, but also
published all of their specifications, etc. so that software could more
easily be developed for it.  Sort of an open source approach to their
hardware.  Forgive me if I am misunderstanding something here or if this
is common practice across the board.  It seemed to me, though, that
there existed a difference between compatabillity and "open hardware".

Thanks for the help.  I'm building a new system and wanted to explore
all of the options.  Given a choice, I would easily choose an open
hardware product over a more secretive proprietary one.  

For example, I am looking to buy a top-of-the-line graphics card (well,
top of teh line for a normal user).  I was looking into the geforce3's,
but had some questions about not linux compatabillity per se, but the
openness of their design process (precompiled drivers as opposed to
source, and level of community involvement, a good sign continued
development and value of product for me).  One of my questions was also
who is "responsible" for these drivers other than the community (i.e.
nvidia, or the individual manufacturers).

A heavy load of questions.  Sorry about that.  I did want to explain
where I was coming from, though.  I really appreciate all the help!

- Paul Rodríguez

On 15 Aug 2001 00:29:33 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/hardware.php3 (recently revamped - check it 
> out)
> http://www.linuxhardware.net/
> http://www.linux-usb.org/
> http://www.linux-laptop.net/
> http://www.linuxprinting.org/
> http://linmodems.org/
> 
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:26, paul rodríguez wrote:
> > Is there a list compiled of hardware released on an open model (ie truly
> > freely released specs).  I know there is a Linux Hardware Database at
> > http://lhd.datapower.com/ , but that talks about Linux compatabillity.
> > It stands to reason that hardware released with open standards would
> > allow for better utilization of the hardware, especially in Linux,
> > making users happier.  Is there a list out there of hardware that's this
> > good?
> 
> -- 
> Sridhar Dhanapalan.
>   "There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
>   LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
>   -- Jeremy S. Anderson


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[newbie] Ugly fonts - Anti-aliasing

[Guilherme Cirne]

Hi,

I read on the Mandrake website 
(http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/features.php3) that "anti-aliasing is 
integrated into Linux-Mandrake 8.0 to provide a nice improvement in how 
fonts are displayed." But on my system the fonts look very ugly. One 
example that comes to mind is the Add New Printer dialog in Kups. But like 
this one there are several other places where fonts look terrible.

Can anyone help me? Maybe I have to install a package which didn't get 
installed by default?

Thanks for any help,

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RE: [newbie] Network Printer on Win98

[Guilherme Cirne]

At 13:53 15/08/01 -0400, you wrote:

>If you are at least getting smbclient to work, you are almost there!
>
>Now the problem is how Cups' filters treat the remote winblows printer.
>
>Cups tries to run thru the Linux/Unix style printer filters which feed
>GIMP/GHOSTSCRIPT or some other ratherizer. The problem is that the
>rasterizer rarely puts out information that is compatible with the
>winblows printers...
>
>Your first step should be to set up the Winblows printer as a text mode
>printer and try printing plain text to it from Linux/Cups.
>
>Make sure that you can get plain text to print FIRST!
>
>If you can this far, you can start searching for Winblows compatible
>Linux/Cups filters in the driver database.
>
>Additional printer control init sequences may differ between CUPS and
>Winblows which is another problem...
>
>-JMS

I finally got it to work. The only strange thing is that sometimes the 
printer stops in the middle of a page and I have to start again.

But anyway thanks for the help.

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[newbie] cdrecord

[Newacct]

I want to make a direct duplication of one to cd to another cd in mandrake 8.
cdr= scsi, rico mp7060s 
cd-rom= ide, atapi
Well how can i do this in the console?



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Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

[Carroll Grigsby]

Peter:
Maybe you've already sorted this out, but just in case go to
nlpagan.net/linux.htm. Towards the end of the page (look for a link to
Mandrake User Organization), there's a note about repairing this problem
that affects some VIA-based systems. I've never found out why it works,
but it does.
Regards,
Carroll

Peter Rymshaw wrote:
> 
 big snip
>
> > > > > Here is what it said when it stopped the
> > shutdown:
> > > > >
> > > > > Code: Bad EIP value.
> > > > > /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line 1: 4054 Segmentation
> > > >
> > > > fault
> > > >
> > > > > halt -i -d -p
> > > > > -
> > > > >



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[newbie] RE: Usability in linux

[Mark Johnson]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:18 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Usability in linux (was RE: [newbie] ERROR 2002: Can't
> connect to
> 
> 
> > Why can't programmers put informational error messages in 
> there code. For
> > example, this mysql problem, why couldn't they have made 
> the error something
> > like:
> 
> >  ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket
> > '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (111)  
> 
> Well, if the error message was less verbose, then the people 
> who really
> knew what a socket was, where /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock was 
> and what to
> do about the message might not have enough information to fix 
> the problem.
> One has to be able to balance between too much 
> 'programmer-speak' and not
> enough.
> 
No, i would prefer really realy verbose error messages and zero programmer
speak.  For my programs I have a -v flag or verbose seeting that you can set
either on the command line or in the config file.  If you set it to 5 you
get lots and lots of information, if you set it to 0 or 1 you get the terse
programmer speak.

ps: my complaint is not really about mysql, it's about 99% of the software
out there.  The user it too much at the mercy of what the programmer feels
is the "right way of doing things" and what is "most important", often these
two perspectives don't jive.  That's fine, the programmer might know better,
but the programmer has the extra job of making some honest effort of
understanding the "user psychology" as best s/he can and enlightening the
user why it's better one way instead of the other. The user is already
forced into making the effort to understanding the programmer's point of
view because the programmer left the user no choice.  You'd think the
programmer would meet the user half way. Right?  If an architect builds a
house s/he thinks about how the "user" will live in the house, what sorts of
usability problems might come up, and how to resolve those problems as best
as possible before-hand.  But I don't think the software architect keeps
these things in mind when s/he is constructing software.




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Re: [newbie] xcdroast

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

You're probably making a disc with Rock Ridge extensions. This is a method of 
preserving UNIX-style file permissions on an ISO9660 (standard data CD-ROM) 
filesystem. If this is the case, then you can ignore the message. There are a 
few other options that can also create this message. If you hover the mouse 
over them the pop-up help should say if they violate the ISO9660 standard.


On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 22:59, Scott wrote:
> I have just installed a Philips 804 CDRW and XCDRoast 0.98alpha6-RH(Test
> Release).  When I try to master a disk to make a data disk i get the
> following message:
>
> Warning: creating filesystem that does not conform to ISO-9660.
> Can anyone tell me what the problem is?
> Thanks,
> SW

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RE: [newbie] almost got it!

[Mark Johnson]

I struggled with the premature end of script headers for 3 days, I figured
out the the cgi stuff was being run under suexec, if you rename suexec to
say suexec.sav then restart apache this should get rid of your problem.

Addmittedly, this is not the correct solution, but I don't know how to get
suexec to run under the correct username.  If someone knows please let me
know...


> -Original Message-
> From: David Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 6:25 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] almost got it!
> 
> 
> i can now "finally" add VirtualHosts and it works fine with 
> no reported 
> errors in my log. 
> However, i still cannot get my scripts working right. I get 
> two error msg's 
> in my log. 1 is "cannot find file or directory". 2 is 
> "premature end of 
> script headers".
> my .conf file has the AddHandler and ScriptAlias commands in 
> it. I did manage 
> to get "perldiver.cgi" to work in the /perl/ directory by 
> renaming it to a 
> .pl file. but no matter what i try, i cannot get anything in 
> /cgi-bin/ to 
> work. 1 script just shows the code in the web page.
> 
> i'm sure its because it cant find the file and directory. any 
> suggestions?
> 
> I'm using LM 8.0. My defaults are /var/www/cgi-bin/ and /var/www/perl/
> my users directories are:
> /home/www/*/public_html
> /home/www/*/public_html/cgi-bin
> 
> all these paths are listed in my .conf file, so im pretty 
> confused as to why 
> the files cannot be found. 
> I added a ScriptAlias to each VirtualHost also.
> I also tried changing permissions, and tried changing user/group to 
> root/root, root/apache, apache/apache, ect..
> 
> Thanks for any help, Dave
> 
> 



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Re: [newbie] More keyboard issues

[Robert MacLean]

I had this exact problem. Try removing the keyboard from the machine,
and blowing air into the actual port and the plug (a blow job? ;).
What I found was that I have a small amount of dust or dirt or
something and that had caused it to do weird things.


Robert MacLean

- Original Message -
From: "Olly Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mandrake Newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 3:31 PM
Subject: [newbie] More keyboard issues


> I have narrowed the keyboard problem down to this;
>
> At the logon window, the #2 works fine. After any user logs on, the
#2
> starts to perform the same function as the backspace key.
>
> What happens at logon that would change the keyboard info ??
>
> Also, I am using xWin32 to access the machine. I have triple checked
the
> config files for this and can find no problem
>
>
> Olly Marshall
> IT Manager
> 
> Absolute Internet
> www.absoluteinternet.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>
>
>




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[newbie] More keyboard issues

[Olly Marshall]

I have 
narrowed the keyboard problem down to this;
 
At the 
logon window, the #2 works fine. After any user logs on, the #2 starts to 
perform the same function as the backspace key. 
 
What 
happens at logon that would change the keyboard info ?? 
Also, 
I am using xWin32 to access the machine. I have triple checked the config files 
for this and can find no problem
 
 
Olly Marshall
IT Manager

Absolute Internet
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Re: [newbie] Sensors (was AA fonts)

[Tom Brinkman]

On Friday 17 August 2001 02:51 am, s wrote:

> the latest yet. I just went back to 2.4.3-20.  I did notice a new
> service called sensors and it uses /etc/sensors.conf (in freq3 I
> guess).  I didn't explore that finding too thoroughly.   I really
> like gkrellm and I don't know if they could work together or not.  I
> guess I'll stay with 2.4.3-20 for now, but 8.1 is coming out
> soon.  I hope we get some info on this.
> -s

sensors.conf has been there all along.  It's a cross between a 
readme and a conf file.  You can use it to adjust sensors ouput.
IOW's values aren't reported directly from the i2c bus in their final 
form. It takes an algorithym to fudge them into shape.  Take a close 
look at the file and you'll see what I mean. Keep in mind tho that 
algorithyms for all possible sensors are in there, so if you edit, make 
sure you've got the right modules for your system. You can also change 
stuff like alarm limits and labels in sensors.conf too. I use to, I 
don't bother with it anymore.

-- 
Tom Brinkman   Galveston Bay



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[newbie] xcdroast

[Scott]

I have just installed a Philips 804 CDRW and XCDRoast 0.98alpha6-RH(Test 
Release).  When I try to master a disk to make a data disk i get the 
following message:

Warning: creating filesystem that does not conform to ISO-9660. 
Can anyone tell me what the problem is?
Thanks,
SW



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[newbie] Ess56PI modem installation failure

[Hugh]

Hi,mandrake linux users and specialists,
  I encouter difficulty while installing my Ess56PI modem.The Ess2898 chip based 
internal PCI modem is not that sort of winmodem.It's installed in PCI slot 4 using IRQ 
11.It works just well under win98 and win2k.
After installing mandrake linux 7.0 ,I login by root and change  to  modem driver's 
directory.Then type "sh mdminstall" command under a terminal window to launch the 
setup script .However the system reports these information on the screen as follows:
rmmod :module esscom not loaded
/esscom.o:kernel-module version mismatch
/esscom.o was compiled for kernel version 2.25-15
while this kernel is version 2.2.14-15 mdk

It really seems a paradox.I use "lsmod" to view the moduls resident in RAM,esscom.o is 
non-existent for sure.Finally I run "modprobe" command to try to load the module 
manually,but the system says it can't find esscom module whatsoever.I appreciate any 
hints available by you.
My PC hardware configuration:Pentium MMX 233 (oc 262.5,ie 75*3),160 M ram,trident 9750 
image
PCI video adapter  with 4M ram,ST 3.2G hard disk,PCchips brand Ali1531/1533 chipset 
based motherboard(I don't know its ID),Yamaha 718 ISA soundcard.
PNP is diabled  in bios.no hardware conflict.By the way the modem occupies com4 under 
win98 and occupies com3 under win2000.How to explain this thing?
Previously I once installed winlinux2000.It can detect the Essmodem but still the same 
situation presented as above.
Thank you anyway. 




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[newbie] nvidia openGL issues

[Liam O'Connell]

Hi there,

I am having issues using the nVidia drivers with LM 8.0.
I've downloaded the RPM's from the nVidia website and amended
XF86Config-4 as described in the readme, and the 'nvidia' driver seems
to load OK (X works as normal except that it flashes up a nvidia logo on
startup). However, I can't reproducibly get OpenGL to work - I'm using
the KDE GL screensavers (Pipes, Morph etc.) to test.

It seems to work if I 'startx' from a tty as root, but not as a normal
user or via 'init 5' (as default runlevel or by booting into RL 3 and
'init 5' from tty). I just get a SIGSEV in the screensaver app or
nothing happens at all (screen stays black.)

In either case the logfile reports that the 'GLX' module is being loaded
and says something about 'allocated 8 of 8 contexts' on load (on a
different machine now, so not sure about the exact message). But if it's
working it adds further messages to the log, if it's not it stays mute,
no error msgs or anything.

BTW: I downloaded the uniprocessor module, is that the right one to use?
I'm using the default kernel off the iso image. (The X log says
something about a SMP kernel, but it doesn't have the same version
number as mine, soI'm guessing that was the kernel the rpm was built on) 
I get no mention of smp if I 'uname -a' so I'm guessing it isn't.

Any suggestions?

Config:
LM 8.0 from the ISO images, no major updates or changes that I recall
Creative 'plain vanilla' GF2
using XF86 4.0.3 (IIRC - the default option that isn't 3.3.6)

cheers

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Re: [newbie] Swap Space

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

Linux uses superfluous RAM is used for disc caching, speeding up drive 
accesses. So increasing your RAM can increase your hard drive speed (if what 
you're accessing has been cached).

On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 21:05, Adams, Jamie wrote:
> Just a note.. Linux believes that unused RAM is wasted RAM, it will
> always try and use as much as it can.
>
> Swap is much slower than actual ram, so if it isnt using it, be pleased!
>-- Jamie
>
> >--
>
> From: Chris Biggs[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> >Reply To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent:16 August 2001 18:59
> >To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [newbie] Swap Space
> >
> ><>
> >Don't worry about it... let Linux do one of the things that it does best-
> >manage memory.
> >It's a good thing that it's making good use of your physical RAM and
> >accessing the HD less.
> >- Original Message -
>
> From: "David Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:43 AM
> >Subject: [newbie] Swap Space
> >
> >> i just checked my stats for memory usage, and i have 288mg ram and a
> >> 250mg swap space. however, my swap is using 0% and my memory is listed
> >> at using 90%. how do i tell LM 8.0 to use more swap space than ram?
> >> thanks, Dave
> >
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Re: [newbie] Keyboard doing the wrong thing

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

Double-check your keyboard settings in the Mandrake Control Centre. It looks 
as if it's set incorrectly.

On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 21:17, Olly Marshall wrote:
> HI,
>
> I've just installed Mandrake, and am using the KDE interface. I have
> noticed that number keys are doing odd things. Before you say it, its not a
> NUM LOCK problem
>
> All the number 2 keys (both above the main keyboard and on the number pad)
> are producing a backspace (that is deleting the character on the left) and
> all the number 9's are doing the same as the windows key (bring up the menu
> bar).
>
> How can i alter what keys do, or fix this ?? The k/b itself is a ps2 normal
> thing that has been working fine on other pc's.
>
> Let me know
>
> Olly

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[newbie] Keyboard doing the wrong thing

[Olly Marshall]

HI,

I've just installed Mandrake, and am using the KDE interface. I have noticed
that number keys are doing odd things. Before you say it, its not a NUM LOCK
problem

All the number 2 keys (both above the main keyboard and on the number pad)
are producing a backspace (that is deleting the character on the left) and
all the number 9's are doing the same as the windows key (bring up the menu
bar).

How can i alter what keys do, or fix this ?? The k/b itself is a ps2 normal
thing that has been working fine on other pc's.

Let me know

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RE: [newbie] Swap Space

[Adams, Jamie]

Just a note.. Linux believes that unused RAM is wasted RAM, it will
always try and use as much as it can.

Swap is much slower than actual ram, so if it isnt using it, be pleased!
   -- Jamie

>--
>From:  Chris Biggs[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Reply To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent:  16 August 2001 18:59
>To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject:   Re: [newbie] Swap Space
>
><>
>Don't worry about it... let Linux do one of the things that it does best-
>manage memory.
>It's a good thing that it's making good use of your physical RAM and
>accessing the HD less.
>- Original Message -
>From: "David Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:43 AM
>Subject: [newbie] Swap Space
>
>
>> i just checked my stats for memory usage, and i have 288mg ram and a 250mg
>> swap space. however, my swap is using 0% and my memory is listed at using
>> 90%. how do i tell LM 8.0 to use more swap space than ram?
>> thanks, Dave
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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