date:20010905


  The first OEM version of Windows XP is available since only 1 week, and
  there are already cracks available that make it useable without
  registration. The crack files are available throught personal homepages of
  several people already, under the name 'corpfiles.zip'. The size is about
  13 megs. Unzip the files over an existing installation of XP and all
  security is bypassed.
 
 Do you really want to run that crud on your computer? Who knows what sort of 
 spyware is lurking underneath? M$ may be tracking every move you make and you 
 wouldn't even know. I know it's a paranoid thought, but it's very possible 
 nonetheless.

Do you really believe I would put an MS Disk operating system on my PC?
Just thought it funny that the so called unhackable XP is already hacked.
*grin*

And indeed, I do not trust anything from M$ concerning spy-ware that is built
in to their software. I think there is more of it than we can suspect.

You should know me better by now. Penguins are our friends, huh?
:)
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[newbie] Linux Mag's Editor's Choice Awards

2001-09-05 Thread s


Well, this may not be news for some, but I thought people here might like 
to know that Mandrake 8.0 is Linux Magazine's Editor's Choice Award winner 
for top Desktop Distribution.   Congratulations Mandrake.  (But we already 
knew that.)

Other points of interest:

Top Office Suite:   Koffice 1.1
Top Database:MySQL
Top Email (gui) Ximian  (Top text:  Pine 4.33)
Top Web Browser Konqueror  (again, we knew that)  :-)
Best Emulator   VMWare  (well...)
Best Server Distro  RedHat Pro Server 7.1  (Mdk Corp Serv came in 3rd)
Best IM GAIM  (everybuddy not even mentioned)  :-(

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Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already


On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:12, Paul wrote:
 Hi all,
 Found this interesting:

 The first OEM version of Windows XP is available since only 1 week, and
 there are already cracks available that make it useable without
 registration. The crack files are available throught personal homepages of
 several people already, under the name 'corpfiles.zip'. The size is about
 13 megs. Unzip the files over an existing installation of XP and all
 security is bypassed.

 Reference for this info is planet multimedia, don't know what or where
 that is. But interesting nonetheless...

 Paul

Do you really want to run that crud on your computer? Who knows what sort of 
spyware is lurking underneath? M$ may be tracking every move you make and you 
wouldn't even know. I know it's a paranoid thought, but it's very possible 
nonetheless.

OEM versions of XP are tied to the BIOS of systems. This means that the Dell 
version that was recently leaked out should work on all recent Dells, since 
they have the same BIOS and motherboard. You will need an OEM version that 
matches your BIOS for it to work.

Can anybody smell a rat with such a system? I certainly can. M$ can charge 
motherboard manufacturers to have WinXP support their products. If they don't 
pay the ransom, they lose Windows support.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
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LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
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Re: [newbie] How to change default login group


On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:59, George Petri wrote:
 I know this is a very, very trivial question but for some reason I can't
 find the manual for it:

 How do I change the default login group for a user?

 I've looked in /etd/passwd and man -a passwd but have found nothing
 relevant.

 Currently, if I log in my group name is the same as my user name.
 Now, if for some reason I wanted to change the group that I start up in
 (so that new files that I make are owned by george.newgroup),
 how would I do it?

 Please point me to the relevant manuals or just give me the answer :)

 Thanks in advance,
 George

Take a look at userdrake.

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Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already


On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 18:11, Paul wrote:
   The first OEM version of Windows XP is available since only 1 week, and
   there are already cracks available that make it useable without
   registration. The crack files are available throught personal homepages
   of several people already, under the name 'corpfiles.zip'. The size is
   about 13 megs. Unzip the files over an existing installation of XP and
   all security is bypassed.
 
  Do you really want to run that crud on your computer? Who knows what sort
  of spyware is lurking underneath? M$ may be tracking every move you make
  and you wouldn't even know. I know it's a paranoid thought, but it's very
  possible nonetheless.

 Do you really believe I would put an MS Disk operating system on my PC?
 Just thought it funny that the so called unhackable XP is already hacked.
 *grin*

 And indeed, I do not trust anything from M$ concerning spy-ware that is
 built in to their software. I think there is more of it than we can
 suspect.

 You should know me better by now. Penguins are our friends, huh?

 :)

 Paul

Don't worry, Paul. It was all tongue-in-cheek. I should've added a smiley on 
the end of that paragraph, like this:

  ;-)

Hehe.

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Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already

2001-09-05 Thread Ryan C. Raz


Yeah Right We Hate Mirosoft... Nahh I kinda like it only with its FREE...


 Who cares?

 Paul wrote:

  Hi all,
  Found this interesting:
 
  The first OEM version of Windows XP is available since only 1 week, and
there
  are already cracks available that make it useable without registration.
  The crack files are available throught personal homepages of several
people
  already, under the name 'corpfiles.zip'. The size is about 13 megs.
Unzip the
  files over an existing installation of XP and all security is bypassed.
 
  Reference for this info is planet multimedia, don't know what or where
that
  is. But interesting nonetheless...
 
  Paul
 

  
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Re: [newbie] Networking FTP

2001-09-05 Thread Mohammed Arafa

do u have any sort of firewall installed? u might have port 21 disabled in
some manner
- Original Message -
From: Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Newbie Linux-Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Networking  FTP

 You need to use passive ftp on your clients.

 Arthur H. Johnson II
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 The Linux Box
 http://www.linuxbox.nu

 On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Bill wrote:

  Hey,
  I am using a box running mandrake 8 as my server to supply
  internet to my internal network.
  Everything internet related works fine, but for some reason, FTP
  won't connect from any internal computer to any computer on
  the outside of the network.
  Any suggestions?

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[newbie] Win X Client

2001-09-05 Thread Olly Marshall


Hi,

Does anyone know of a free X client so that I can connect to my Mandrake box
from my windows machine ?



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Re: [newbie] RAM: How much is enough?


enough RAM and Enough Money are myths. they do not really exist, you 
always want more.

On Tuesday 04 September 2001 17:08, Charles Punch wrote:
 Arthur H. Johnson II wrote:
  I would recommend 128 Megs.  You may be able to get away with 64 on the
  k5.
 
  Arthur H. Johnson II
 
  On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Warren Post wrote:
   I will be installing LM8.0 on two PCs as soon as I finish downloading
   it. I know I need to get more RAM, but how much is enough?

 Enough??? Too much is enough in my opinion? Seriously though, I think it
 depends on how much you can afford and also what you plan to do with it.
 I have a Toshiba laptop with 80MB and it's tolerable, but kind of
 aggrevating after using my desktop with 512MB and I don't use networking
 or anything fancy. I do a lot of graphic editing. I suppose that's the
 most demanding thing I do other than a few progs I watch on real player
 or playing MP3s.I have been told that my 512MB is overkill for what I
 do, but it sure beats underkill.

 ShalomOut
   Chal
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 Registered Linux user # 217118

 The most serious doubt that has been thrown on the authenticity of the
 biblical miracles is the fact that most of the witnesses in regard to
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[newbie] xmps

2001-09-05 Thread Mohammed Arafa


hello

i m trying to install xmps on my mandrake 8.0 machine

i went to rpmfind.net and discovered that the Polish(ed) distri has made
rpms of everything i need and d/l them.
here is everything i d/l:

audiofile-0.2.2-2.i686.rpm
libavifile-0.6.0-0.2mdk.i386.rpm
libavifile-codecs-0.20010111-1mdk.noarch.rpm
libavifile-opendivx-0.0.2-0.1mdk.i386.rpm
libavifile-utils-0.6.0-0.2mdk.i386.rpm
libdivxdecore-0.4.7-3.i686.rpm
mplayer-0.18-2.pre5.i686.rpm
SDL-1.2.2-3.i686.rpm
w32codec-0.18-1.i686.rpm
xmps-0.2.0-4.i686.rpm
xmps-opendivx-plugin-0.0.2-1.i686.rpm

my machines is a pentium ii 400 and PREVIOUSLY i managed to run mpeg but
only with audio. n now no audio or video.
can someone pls. help?

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RE: [newbie] Recompiling iwht IPChains

2001-09-05 Thread Olly Marshall

Do you have a URL for that paul ??

Olly

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: 05 September 2001 13:27
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Recompiling iwht IPChains

 Does anyone know how i can go about recompliling the mandrake kernel with
 IPChains support?

 Ive been told i need to do this to get teh firewall addon working properly

Have you tried setting up the firewall with InteractiveBastille?
That works fine for me, using IPTables.
If you want to run IPChains, you could install Kernel 2.2.19. Then you do
not
have to recompile anything, just go.

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Re: [newbie] Dumb Email Time Question

2001-09-05 Thread Randy Kramer


james Mellema wrote:
 Look at it like time is always UT (the current designation for GMT),
 local time where you are is 4 hours earlier, hence, the - sign. If you
 were on the other side of the International Date Line you would be
 ahead, hence the + sign.

Jim,

Thanks for the response!

I know I probably seem wierd, but now I'm going to try to develop a way
to mentally read it based on your suggestion.

Mon, 03 Sep 2001 15:38:00 -0400

Read as:

local time is 15:38, which is 4 hours before UT

local time 15:38, 4 hours before UT

local time 15:38, 4 hours 'til UT

Yeah, that might work.

local time, change sign is shorter, not sure which is more useful or
more memorable -- your approach might be more useful, the local time,
change sign might be more memorable.  Well, we'll see the next time I
try to see what time an email was sent.

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[newbie] File manager?

2001-09-05 Thread Lionel Pitaru


Hi there! Me again, asking and asking. This time the issue is File manager.
I need one! Think this, I'm using BlackBox, I love the light weight
interface . . . nothing that begins with K or G, something more X.

Do you know about a file manager (with graphic interface, of course) of this
caracteristics?

What about mail clients?

Thanks
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Re: [newbie] File manager?

2001-09-05 Thread Robert MacLean

IMHO Midnight Commander is the best. I don't know if there is a X
version but the console one is more than powerful for anything I have
ever needed.

Robert MacLean
- Original Message -
From: Lionel Pitaru [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:14 PM
Subject: [newbie] File manager?

 Hi there! Me again, asking and asking. This time the issue is File
manager.
 I need one! Think this, I'm using BlackBox, I love the light weight
 interface . . . nothing that begins with K or G, something more X.

 Do you know about a file manager (with graphic interface, of course)
of this
 caracteristics?

 What about mail clients?

 Thanks
 Lionel

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Re: [newbie] File manager?


heck really lite try typeing mc for Midnite Commander (without the 
quotes) in a text winder

On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:14, Lionel Pitaru wrote:
 Hi there! Me again, asking and asking. This time the issue is File manager.
 I need one! Think this, I'm using BlackBox, I love the light weight
 interface . . . nothing that begins with K or G, something more X.

 Do you know about a file manager (with graphic interface, of course) of
 this caracteristics?

 What about mail clients?

 Thanks
 Lionel


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Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already

2001-09-05 Thread Matt Greer


on 9/5/01 7:00 AM, Charles Punch at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Stability gets top priority here too, and I'm just talking about desktop
 single user stability. MS doesn't even have enough of that for me.
 Sometimes Linux users on this list get accused of bashing MS, when in
 fact all they are doing is presenting the facts. The Emperor has no
 clothes!
 
I recently put Win2K on my machine and I've just had nothing but problems.
The real kicker is it won't shutdown or restart the computer no matter what,
it just hangs. This is a fresh install from a brand new copy of Win2K on a
freshly formatted harddrive on a less than 6 month old computer.

So this little Win2K charade has taught me to respect Linux just that much
more. I dont even want to look at WinXP, and I fear the day when my Dad gets
a new computer and it has XP on it.

Matt


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[newbie] File manager?

2001-09-05 Thread Charles A Edwards




 








 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of etharp
 Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:32 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lionel Pitaru
 Subject: Re: [newbie] File manager?
 
 
 heck really lite try typeing mc for Midnite Commander 
 (without the 
 quotes) in a text winder
 
 On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:14, Lionel Pitaru wrote:
  Hi there! Me again, asking and asking. This time the issue 
 is File manager.
  I need one! Think this, I'm using BlackBox, I love the light weight
  interface . . . nothing that begins with K or G, something more X.
 
  Do you know about a file manager (with graphic interface, 
 of course) of
  this caracteristics?
 
 

Try xwc
 
Which is X WinCommander.

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Re: [newbie] Recompiling iwht IPChains


I may not be Paul, but I believe that I have the URL you're after :-)

http://www.bastille-linux.org/

Bastille is more than just a good firewall tool -- it's an entire security 
system. There's far more to good security than a firewall.

On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:05, Olly Marshall wrote:
 Do you have a URL for that paul ??

 Olly

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul
 Sent: 05 September 2001 13:27
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Recompiling iwht IPChains

  Does anyone know how i can go about recompliling the mandrake kernel with
  IPChains support?
 
  Ive been told i need to do this to get teh firewall addon working
  properly

 Have you tried setting up the firewall with InteractiveBastille?
 That works fine for me, using IPTables.
 If you want to run IPChains, you could install Kernel 2.2.19. Then you do
 not
 have to recompile anything, just go.

 Paul

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[newbie] Lightweight Mail User Agents for X


I have been a loyal KMail user since KDE 1. However, I have found myself 
increasingly irritated by the growing slowness and bloat of each new release. 
KMail in KDE 2.2 is nowhere near as stable as previous releases (which were 
rock-solid).

I now yearn for something lighter and faster. Sylpheed looks very promising, 
but I find its filters to be very limited compared to KMail's implementation. 
What solutions exist for this problem? Would it be viable for me to, say, use 
something like Procmail to download and filter my mail, and transparently 
access that via a client like Sylpheed?

TIA.

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Re: [newbie] can't set up SB Live! 5.1

2001-09-05 Thread Frans Ketelaars


Valerie Cheng wrote:
 
 Ok.. I checked w/ /sbin/lsmod... no OSS/free driver loaded...
 PNP is off (turned it off long time ago when I was tyring freebsd).
 and... my modules.conf:
 
  alias net-pf-4 ipx
  pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start
  alias usb-interface usb-uhci
  alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
  alias eth0 8139too
 
  alias sound emu10k1
  options emu10k1 joystick=0x200

Well, those two lines above are clearly about the SB live OSS/free driver.
Did sound work after installing Mandrake, or did you use sndconfig ? 
It looks like the card was recognized but both the OSS/free and the
ALSA driver refuse to load. I remember reading on this list that the
PCI slot next to the AGP slot can give problems. If that's not the case
maybe there is an IRQ conflict (although PCI cards should be able to
share IRQ's). lspci -v should list the IRQ your card is using,
cat /proc/interrupts lists the IRQ's in use by drivers.

HTH,

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[newbie] keyboarding

2001-09-05 Thread James S Bear


This year, at our small rural North Dakota school, we pretty much have made the 
change to Linux in our computer lab.  There is one problem, though, the fifth 
and sixth grade teacher wants to bring her kids in to practice their 
keyboarding skills.  I don't want to buy windows for these machines so that 
they can run Mavis Beacon.  Does anybody know of a keyboarding program for 
linux?  It doesn't have to be a real good one.  Anything will do.

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Re: [newbie] File manager?


In reply to Lionel's words, written Wed, 5 Sep 2001 11:14:18 -0300

Hi there! Me again, asking and asking. This time the issue is File manager.
I need one! Think this, I'm using BlackBox, I love the light weight
interface . . . nothing that begins with K or G, something more X.
Do you know about a file manager (with graphic interface, of course) of this
caracteristics?

Even though it starts with g: gentoo (look it up on freshmeat.net)

What about mail clients?

Sylpheed (http://sylpheed.good-day.net).

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Recompiling iwht IPChains


In reply to Olly's words, written Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:05:03 +0100

Do you have a URL for that paul ??

Olly

On my machine it is /usr/sbin/InteractiveBastille
Run it as root...

If you mean Kernel 2.2.19: it is on the 1st CD.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: 05 September 2001 13:27
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Recompiling iwht IPChains


 Does anyone know how i can go about recompliling the mandrake kernel with
 IPChains support?

 Ive been told i need to do this to get teh firewall addon working properly

Have you tried setting up the firewall with InteractiveBastille?
That works fine for me, using IPTables.
If you want to run IPChains, you could install Kernel 2.2.19. Then you do
not have to recompile anything, just go.

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Re: [newbie] Lightweight Mail User Agents for X


In reply to Sridhar's words, written Thu, 6 Sep 2001 01:30:45 +1000

I now yearn for something lighter and faster. Sylpheed looks very promising, 
but I find its filters to be very limited compared to KMail's implementation.
What solutions exist for this problem? Would it be viable for me to, say, use
something like Procmail to download and filter my mail, and transparently 
access that via a client like Sylpheed?

Procmail should do a fine job for you. I think there are options in it to make
it deliver mail in MH style (which is what Sylpheed uses).
Otherwise have a look at the Claws branch, which has more extensive filtering
in it. (You should join the sylpheed mailing list to get to know more, get
there through http://sylpheed.good-day.net)
Paul

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RE: [newbie] keyboarding

2001-09-05 Thread Mark Johnson

check some of these out:
http://freshmeat.net/search/?site=Freshmeatq=typing+tutorsection=projects

 -Original Message-
 From: James S Bear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:06 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] keyboarding

 This year, at our small rural North Dakota school, we pretty 
 much have made the 
 change to Linux in our computer lab.  There is one problem, 
 though, the fifth 
 and sixth grade teacher wants to bring her kids in to practice their 
 keyboarding skills.  I don't want to buy windows for these 
 machines so that 
 they can run Mavis Beacon.  Does anybody know of a 
 keyboarding program for 
 linux?  It doesn't have to be a real good one.  Anything will do.

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Re: [newbie] keyboarding


In reply to James's words, written Wed,  5 Sep 2001 10:06:26 +0500

This year, at our small rural North Dakota school, we pretty much have made
the 
change to Linux in our computer lab.  There is one problem, though, the fifth
and sixth grade teacher wants to bring her kids in to practice their 
keyboarding skills.  I don't want to buy windows for these machines so that 
they can run Mavis Beacon.  Does anybody know of a keyboarding program for 
linux?  It doesn't have to be a real good one.  Anything will do.

Go to http://freshmeat.net
In the search box type typing tutor without the quotes and click search.
There's a selection of programs, like Griffin, Ktouch, GNU Typist, Jtypist and
Tux Typing (which is fun!! )

Paul

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Re: [newbie] File manager?


GMC = GNOME Midnight Commander.

It was the default file manager for GNOME before Nautilus came along. If you 
have GNOME installed, you should be able to run it with gmc --nodesktop (to 
prevent it from populating your desktop with icons).

There is also XWC = X WinCommander.

It is built with its own C++ based toolkit called FOX. It also has some great 
little utilities, including a text editor, a text viewer, and a RPM viewer 
(very useful!). Look for the xwc Mandrake package.


On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:23, Robert MacLean wrote:
 IMHO Midnight Commander is the best. I don't know if there is a X
 version but the console one is more than powerful for anything I have
 ever needed.
 
 Robert MacLean
 - Original Message -
 From: Lionel Pitaru [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:14 PM
 Subject: [newbie] File manager?

  Hi there! Me again, asking and asking. This time the issue is File

 manager.

  I need one! Think this, I'm using BlackBox, I love the light weight
  interface . . . nothing that begins with K or G, something more X.
 
  Do you know about a file manager (with graphic interface, of course)

 of this

  caracteristics?
 
  What about mail clients?
 
  Thanks
  Lionel

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Re: [newbie] File manager?



Well to be completely honest the best two file managers out there are
Konqueror and GMC.  There are others, but they are somewhat lower in
quality as far as mime types and whatnot go.  DFM is pretty good, however.

Keep in mind, you can use Konqueror, and not be in KDE.

As far as mail clients go, i dont like anything graphical.  SquirrelMail
is good, but its a webmail program.  Im a Pine bigot myself.

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On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Lionel Pitaru wrote:

 Hi there! Me again, asking and asking. This time the issue is File manager.
 I need one! Think this, I'm using BlackBox, I love the light weight
 interface . . . nothing that begins with K or G, something more X.

 Do you know about a file manager (with graphic interface, of course) of this
 caracteristics?

 What about mail clients?

 Thanks
 Lionel








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Re: [newbie] File manager?



gmc is the graphical equivelent.

Non graphical file manager?  I like bash, but thats just me ;)

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On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Robert MacLean wrote:

 IMHO Midnight Commander is the best. I don't know if there is a X
 version but the console one is more than powerful for anything I have
 ever needed.
 
 Robert MacLean
 - Original Message -
 From: Lionel Pitaru [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:14 PM
 Subject: [newbie] File manager?


  Hi there! Me again, asking and asking. This time the issue is File
 manager.
  I need one! Think this, I'm using BlackBox, I love the light weight
  interface . . . nothing that begins with K or G, something more X.
 
  Do you know about a file manager (with graphic interface, of course)
 of this
  caracteristics?
 
  What about mail clients?
 
  Thanks
  Lionel
 
 
 


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Mail clients ( was Re: [newbie] File manager?)


In reply to Randy's words, written Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:39:17 -0400

 What about mail clients?

I hear good things about sylpheed.  Never tried it.  Don't think it's
part of GNOME, but I could be wrong.

Sylpheed runs fine in any X manager. It is written in C++ and GTK+
I like it so much that I have started writing the english manual for it. If
you want to have a look:

http://nlpagan.net/sylman
From there you can click on to the online version, or download the pages as
tar.gz

Let me know if you want to know more (shameless plug ends here ;-)

Paul

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RE: [newbie] File manager?

2001-09-05 Thread Lionel Pitaru


Thank's anyway, but like I said I want one graphic or not consolo mode file
manager
I tried X WinCommander and works grate

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Randy Kramer
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 1:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] File manager?


Lionel Pitaru wrote:

 Hi there! Me again, asking and asking. This time the issue is File
manager.
 I need one! Think this, I'm using BlackBox, I love the light weight
 interface . . . nothing that begins with K or G, something more X.

 Do you know about a file manager (with graphic interface, of course) of
this
 caracteristics?

Lionel,

Have you tried mc (midnight commander)?  It's on Mandrake, maybe
installed by default.


 What about mail clients?

I hear good things about sylpheed.  Never tried it.  Don't think it's
part of GNOME, but I could be wrong.

Randy Kramer





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Re: [newbie] Lightweight Mail User Agents for X



Pine.  It rocks.

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http://www.linuxbox.nu

On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

 I have been a loyal KMail user since KDE 1. However, I have found myself
 increasingly irritated by the growing slowness and bloat of each new release.
 KMail in KDE 2.2 is nowhere near as stable as previous releases (which were
 rock-solid).

 I now yearn for something lighter and faster. Sylpheed looks very promising,
 but I find its filters to be very limited compared to KMail's implementation.
 What solutions exist for this problem? Would it be viable for me to, say, use
 something like Procmail to download and filter my mail, and transparently
 access that via a client like Sylpheed?

 TIA.

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Re: [newbie] RAM: How much is enough?



Well said.

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On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, etharp wrote:

 enough RAM and Enough Money are myths. they do not really exist, you
 always want more.

 On Tuesday 04 September 2001 17:08, Charles Punch wrote:
  Arthur H. Johnson II wrote:
   I would recommend 128 Megs.  You may be able to get away with 64 on the
   k5.
  
   Arthur H. Johnson II
  
   On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Warren Post wrote:
I will be installing LM8.0 on two PCs as soon as I finish downloading
it. I know I need to get more RAM, but how much is enough?
 
  Enough??? Too much is enough in my opinion? Seriously though, I think it
  depends on how much you can afford and also what you plan to do with it.
  I have a Toshiba laptop with 80MB and it's tolerable, but kind of
  aggrevating after using my desktop with 512MB and I don't use networking
  or anything fancy. I do a lot of graphic editing. I suppose that's the
  most demanding thing I do other than a few progs I watch on real player
  or playing MP3s.I have been told that my 512MB is overkill for what I
  do, but it sure beats underkill.
 
  ShalomOut
Chal
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  Registered Linux user # 217118
 
  The most serious doubt that has been thrown on the authenticity of the
  biblical miracles is the fact that most of the witnesses in regard to
  them were fishermen.
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Re: [newbie] File manager?

2001-09-05 Thread Randy Kramer


Robert (or anybody else),

Speaking of Midnight Commander, can you (or anyone else) give me simple
instructions on how to setup mc so that it uses black text on a white
background?  (Hopefully in a config file or something so I don't have to
do it every time I start mc.)

This has been on my wish list for a while.  The default colors (and
text) are hard to see in an X terminal (?) like Konsole.  When I log
into SourceForge and use mc, the text is black on white (with perhaps
shades of gray in a few places) -- very easy to read.

Thanks,
Randy Kramer

Robert MacLean wrote:
 
 IMHO Midnight Commander is the best. I don't know if there is a X
 version but the console one is more than powerful for anything I have
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Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already



KDE was born in 1997, and GNOME born in 1998.

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On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Paul wrote:

 This is a multi-part message in MIME format...

 =_999682689-7607-1458

  Yeah Right We Hate Mirosoft... Nahh I kinda like it only with its FREE...
 

 I don't hate micro$oft. I don't like their software. It is full of bugs,
 their OS-like systems crash faster than I can hit the Reset button, and things
 get worse and worse through each release.
 Additionally, the spy-ware factor is something that gets more and more
 attention.

 Their initial idea to make the computer accessible for everyone was good.
 How many moms and pensioners would be able to use the computer without Win 9X
 bugware? Even Win 3.x presented enough problems previously.
 The ease-of-use factor that they presented (stole from others? but then, who
 does not steal ideas from others in this industry) made a big difference to
 the world in general.
 I mean, did the KDE or Gnome interface look like this (expanding menu's,
 taskbar etc) before Win95 came out?  (I don't know, since I did not use Linux
 then, I ran OS/2.)

 I would not even use M$ products if they _were_ free. I'd maybe use them if
 they were stable. In that area is my importance. And Linux provides that.

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Re: [newbie] Recompiling iwht IPChains



You shouldn't have to.

Run:

rmmod ip_tables

then:

modprobe ipchains.

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On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Olly Marshall wrote:

 Hi,

 Does anyone know how i can go about recompliling the mandrake kernel with
 IPChains support?

 Ive been told i need to do this to get teh firewall addon working properly



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Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already

2001-09-05 Thread Richie de Almeida


On September 5, 2001 08:00 am, Charles Punch wrote:
 Paul wrote:
  I would not even use M$ products if they _were_ free. I'd maybe use them
  if they were stable. In that area is my importance. And Linux provides
  that.
 
  Paul

 Stability gets top priority here too, and I'm just talking about desktop
 single user stability. MS doesn't even have enough of that for me.
 Sometimes Linux users on this list get accused of bashing MS, when in
 fact all they are doing is presenting the facts. 

The only trouble with all the M$-bashing is that we're preaching to the 
choir.  Tell me really, did all those Cola-Wars TV ads really help you choose 
which soft drink you choose.  Probably not!

If the point of M$ bashing is to advance Linux in some way, I'd have to say 
that everyone would be doing a better job by finding more ways that Linux can 
out-do or even leap past Windows.

I read an interesting article on ZDNet today about StarOffice and MSOffice 
that summed it up nicely: 

"If you keep aiming where Microsoft has already been, then your opportunities 
will be in China. A better tactic is to take aim at where the IT market is 
going to be and your opportunities will be much wider."

Richie

 The Emperor has no clothes!

 ShalomOut
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Re: [newbie] File manager?

2001-09-05 Thread Randy Kramer


Lionel Pitaru wrote:
 Thank's anyway, but like I said I want one graphic or not consolo mode file
 manager
 I tried X WinCommander and works grate
 
 Thanks

Lionel,

Oops, sorry!  You're welcome anyway. ;-)

Randy Kramer



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Re: [newbie] kmail problem

2001-09-05 Thread Joan Tur


Es Dimarts 04 Setembre 2001 20:37, en g. sanders va escriure:
 Thank you for the responses I've received so far. However, I still can't
 seem to send mail reliably using kmail.
Try the following:

1. Make sure postfix is up and running:
a. You have the package installed (run rpm -qa|grep postfix),
b. The postfix service is running on startup (run drakxservices)

 outgoing is through: smtp.mynewisp.net
2. Set smtp outgoing mail in kmail to localhost

3. Try it sending a message to yourself

Hope that helps  ;)

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[newbie] Unattached inode 418928 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY

2001-09-05 Thread Peter Rymshaw


To do some work from boot, I logged out of my regular
KDE session and then loged in as root. When KDE
finished reloading, it left the screen entirely
frozen--keyboard did not respond at all. The only
thing I could do was restart the computer.

It now makes it only part of the way through the setup
and it finds that there is a error in the system.
Messages include:

Unattached inode 418928
UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY

I'm told to RUN fsck

That doesn't do any good. But I AM able to access
Linux by entering the root password. But then I don't
know what to do.

HELP! I'm completely out of business, but don't think
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RE: [newbie] keyboarding

2001-09-05 Thread James S Bear


Thank you very much to all who responded.  I will be checking them out.
jim
Quoting Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 check some of these out:
 http://freshmeat.net/search/?site=Freshmeatq=typing+tutorsection=projects
 
  -Original Message-
  From: James S Bear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:06 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [newbie] keyboarding
  
  
  This year, at our small rural North Dakota school, we pretty 
  much have made the 
  change to Linux in our computer lab.  There is one problem, 
  though, the fifth 
  and sixth grade teacher wants to bring her kids in to practice their 
  keyboarding skills.  I don't want to buy windows for these 
  machines so that 
  they can run Mavis Beacon.  Does anybody know of a 
  keyboarding program for 
  linux?  It doesn't have to be a real good one.  Anything will do.
  
  jim
  
  
  
  
 






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[newbie] HELP: QuickCam USB for Mandrake 8.0

2001-09-05 Thread Mark Wheeler


I have a Logitech QuickCam Pro (light ring). This device is
Recognized in Mandrake 8.0. My question is, now what? How do
I retrieve images with it. I have been going around in circles
Installing gqcam, xawtv, etc. I get errors with xawtv, with
/dev/video0: no such device.

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Re: [newbie] viewing pdf in mozilla

2001-09-05 Thread skinky


On Tuesday 04 September 2001 23:07, you wrote:
 In reply to Valerie's words, written Mon, 3 Sep 2001 16:27:19 -0400

 Paul - i set up netscape before using application/pdf w/ xpdf %s
  and it worked.
 but it didn't work w/ mozilla. nothing happens when i try to open a pdf
  file.

 Hmmm, sounds like a bug in mozilla then. I can't get it working here
 either. Too bad...
 Paul

I have Acrobat Reader working in Mozilla and Netscape.

You can download Adobe Acrobat Reader from 
http://www.savewealth.com/support/acrobat/linux (linux-ar-405.tar.gz).  I 
installed it in /usr/local.

1. Go into Mozilla  Edit  Preferences  Navigator  Helper Applications.
2. Click New Type
3. Description of Type = pdf viewer (or whatever)
4. File Extension = PDF
5. MIME Type = application/pdf
6. Application to Use = //usr/local/Acrobat4/bin/acroread (or the path to  
where your acroread shell script resides).

Now if I enter the URL 
(http://www.epic.org/privacy/consumer/MS_complaint.pdf) in Mozilla it 
opens with Acrobat Reader.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] Win X Client

2001-09-05 Thread Seedkum Aladeem



Try this

http://tnt.microimages.com/www/html/freestuf/mix/

It is not free.

Seedkum


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 Does anyone know of a free X client so that I can connect to my Mandrake box
 from my windows machine ?
 
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Re: [newbie] 9 gmc's on the KDE desktop(Still)

2001-09-05 Thread C.H. Close

D. Hoyem wrote:

--- Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello D.,

Tuesday, September 04, 2001, 11:28:25 AM, you wrote:

DH Somehow I now have 9 gmc's on my desktop and
to
DH remove them I go to the bottom of the screen and
DH delete them one at a time.
DH I'm using Mandrake 8.0 on a Dell 5450 Lpatop.
What
DH do i need to do to stop this from happening.
DH Thanks.
DH Don

That sounds like a problem I had when using the
Gnome Samba program.
It's like it doesn't unmount the connection and when
you login it
opens the windows and you have to close them each
and every time.
Check to see if you are severing the connections or
if one of the
machines is in the habit of dropping from the
network. I had a
Windows 98 machine that would lose its' connection
to my LAN. After
I cleaned the /tmp directory of the loose ends, no
further problem.

Also, I fixed the Windows machine... it's now a
BeBox.

(O.T. I am going to miss BeOS)

--
Best regards,
Preston

Thanks for the response Preston,
If memory servers me correctly I do not have Simba
installed and it isn't set. This first happened when
I started it up as a stand alone machine, not
connected to my work lan. This happened once before
on another system when I was using Mandrake 7.1 and
could never figure out why, so I did a reinstall.
I would hate to do a reinstall again to get rid of
this.
Anyone else with another idea?
Thanks
Don

Don,
I have had this problem and here is the the permanent solution.
There is probably a bug in the scripts that write and modify the
/$(HOME)/.kde/share/config/kmserverrc file. This file seems to contain
the session information if you have used the save session option on
logout. The problem is that when you uncheck the save session marker it
doesn't seem to delete the session information so when you log back on
it all just comes back again. If you look at line 6 of the file below I
suspect (although I haven't proved it) that it is thiss command that is
wrongly formatted. The problem is compounded by the fact that there is a
save session option in the kde control centre which if turned on may
save the session anyway with one realising it (irrespective of whether
you use the save session option at logout). The option is under system
session manager. I haven't tested it but if I were you I would turn off
the save session option there too.

To correct the problem delete the stuff in the file as shown in the
before and after files below:
Close your session and restart and that annoying quirk should be gone.
BTW it took me months to get so cross with it before I decided to
investigate with scant regard for breaking anything.

Regards,

Colin Close

BEFORE!!

[General]
saveSession=false
[Session]
count=2
discardCommand1=
discardCommand2=rm,/home/colin/.gnome//gmc-u6joce/[General]
saveSession=false
[Session]
count=2
discardCommand1=
discardCommand2=rm,/home/colin/.gnome//gmc-u6joce/
program1=kwin
program2=gmc
restartCommand1=kwin,-session,11c0a80001999663679014246
restartCommand2=gmc,--sm-config-prefix,/gmc-u6joce/,--sm-client-id,11c0a800019997387490142460022
restartStyleHint1=0
restartStyleHint2=1083965442
userId1=colin
userId2=colin

AFTER!

[General]
saveSession=false
[Session]
count=2
discardCommand1=
discardCommand2=rm,/home/colin/.gnome//gmc-u6joce/
program1=kwin
program2=
restartCommand1=kwin,-session,11c0a80001999663679014246
restartCommand2=
restartStyleHint1=0
restartStyleHint2=
userId1=colin
userId2=

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[newbie] Bash Scripting

2001-09-05 Thread Nicolás Gómez


Hi In the school we are almost in the part of shell scripting, and the
chosen one for these purpose is bash.
I'd like to know if you can help with any link to some bash scripting
tutorial/manual/eBook. therefore, whatever could help to me

Thanks a lot

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Re: [newbie] Unattached inode 418928 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY

2001-09-05 Thread Michael D. Viron


Which drive / partition is it complaining about?

The command would be e2fsck /dev/hd[a,b,c,d][1-9]

For example, if it says unexpected inconsistency on /dev/hdb1, the command
would be 'e2fsck /dev/hdb1' (without the quotes).

After doing this, type exit.  This will put the machine into an automatic
reboot, after which you should be able to start the machine as normal.

Michael

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At 12:02 PM 09/05/2001 -0700, you wrote:
I have Linux installed in my second hard drive and the
kernal seems to be hdc1. Should I use hdc or hdc1 (I
think the swap is hdc5, don't know of any other
partitions) 
Thanks.

--- Chris Huston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Did you run fsck /dev/hda/
  
 /dev/hda being your hard drive.[it may be
 /dev/hdb]
 read the docs..
 check the 
 man fsck 
 or 
 info fsck
 for the options available
 
 don't be afraid..
 
 
 On 5 Sep 2001, at 10:55, Peter Rymshaw wrote:
 
  To do some work from boot, I logged out of my
 regular
  KDE session and then loged in as root. When KDE
  finished reloading, it left the screen entirely
  frozen--keyboard did not respond at all. The only
  thing I could do was restart the computer.
  
  It now makes it only part of the way through the
 setup
  and it finds that there is a error in the system.
  Messages include:
  
  Unattached inode 418928
  UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY
  
  I'm told to RUN fsck
  
  That doesn't do any good. But I AM able to access
  Linux by entering the root password. But then I
 don't
  know what to do.
  
  HELP! I'm completely out of business, but don't
 think
  I should reinstall (and lose all previous
 gains/work.
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Unattached inode 418928 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY

2001-09-05 Thread Peter Rymshaw


Yeah, that was a dumb question. After sending my
message I looked again and saw that it did reference
hdc1. I did simply fsch /dev/hdc1 (no e2) and that
worked. I answered yes about 10 times and then exited
and it is now running.

Thanks to both of you.

--- Michael D. Viron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Which drive / partition is it complaining about?
 
 The command would be e2fsck /dev/hd[a,b,c,d][1-9]
 
 For example, if it says unexpected inconsistency on
 /dev/hdb1, the command
 would be 'e2fsck /dev/hdb1' (without the quotes).
 
 After doing this, type exit.  This will put the
 machine into an automatic
 reboot, after which you should be able to start the
 machine as normal.
 
 Michael
 
 --
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 Registered Linux User #81978
 Senior Systems  Administration Consultant
 Web Spinners, University of West Florida
 
 At 12:02 PM 09/05/2001 -0700, you wrote:
 I have Linux installed in my second hard drive and
 the
 kernal seems to be hdc1. Should I use hdc or hdc1
 (I
 think the swap is hdc5, don't know of any other
 partitions) 
 Thanks.
 
 --- Chris Huston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Did you run fsck /dev/hda/
 
  /dev/hda being your hard drive.[it may be
  /dev/hdb]
  read the docs..
  check the 
  man fsck 
  or 
  info fsck
  for the options available
  
  don't be afraid..
  
  
  On 5 Sep 2001, at 10:55, Peter Rymshaw wrote:
  
   To do some work from boot, I logged out of my
  regular
   KDE session and then loged in as root. When KDE
   finished reloading, it left the screen entirely
   frozen--keyboard did not respond at all. The
 only
   thing I could do was restart the computer.
   
   It now makes it only part of the way through
 the
  setup
   and it finds that there is a error in the
 system.
   Messages include:
   
   Unattached inode 418928
   UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY
   
   I'm told to RUN fsck
   
   That doesn't do any good. But I AM able to
 access
   Linux by entering the root password. But then I
  don't
   know what to do.
   
   HELP! I'm completely out of business, but don't
  think
   I should reinstall (and lose all previous
  gains/work.
   
   
   
   
   
  
  
  
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Re: [newbie] Bash Scripting

2001-09-05 Thread Jeff Reed


On Wednesday 05 September 2001 17:14, Nicolás Gómez wrote:
 Hi In the school we are almost in the part of shell
 scripting, and the chosen one for these purpose is bash.
 I'd like to know if you can help with any link to some
 bash scripting tutorial/manual/eBook. therefore,
 whatever could help to me

 Thanks a lot

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http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Unix/Shell/Scripting/

good luck!!!

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[newbie] test

2001-09-05 Thread Linux Newbie


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RE: [newbie] RAM: How much is enough?

2001-09-05 Thread Jose M. Sanchez


That one is right up there with memorable sayings from CEO's...

Another of my favorites was DEC's CEO saying that no one would ever have
or tolerate a computer at home.

Or at SIG-GRAPH, one of the VP's from Evans and Sutherland saying that
PC's would never have enough graphics horsepower to do anything in real
time...

-JMS
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|Dhanapalan
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|[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Re: [newbie] RAM: How much is enough?
|
|
|Perhaps you mean this little quote:
|
|640K ought to be enough for anybody. -- Bill Gates, 1981
|
|On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:21, Jose M. Sanchez wrote:
| Didn't someone once say that 640K of Ram was more than anyone would 
| ever need?
|
| -JMS
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|
| |-Original Message-
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| |
| |
| |enough RAM and Enough Money are myths. they do not 
|really exist, 
| |you always want more.
|
|-- 
|Sridhar Dhanapalan.
|   There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
|   LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
|   -- Jeremy S. Anderson
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Re: [newbie] Kernel Make Commands

2001-09-05 Thread Bill Cole and Virginia Morton



Alex, thank you very much for your help. In fact, I was not sitting
in the correct directory as you politely pointed out in your note.
One point of confusion that I've had is how to reconcile differences
between distributions with regard to where pieces of the system are located.
I've have the O'Reilly Running Linux book which says that the subdirectory
for 'make' is something different; there are a lot of these distribution
differences that really get in the way of efficient learning. I've
scouted the on-line Mandrake documentation for a similar information about
'make', but, if it is there, clearly I missed it and I apologize in advance
for doing so.
While I suppose the economics aren't yet with Mandrake, talking one
of the computer publishing houses into doing a Mandrake-Linux book [having
an author would be good too :-)] which points to these distribution differences
would be a really big help.
I really like the Mandrake product and approach to customers.
I hope that the company has a business plan that makes a profit for the
investors and keeps the company viable.
Bill

Re: [newbie] Find Command

2001-09-05 Thread Miark

This should work: find /usr -name *read*

Miark

- Original Message - 
From: SoloCDM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linux-Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 6:53 AM
Subject: [newbie] Find Command

 How is it possible to force the find command to list all files with
 read in the filename, regardless whether they start with a period
 or not?

 I already tried the following:

find /usr -iname .*read* -iname *read* -type f -print

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Re: [newbie] Resolution / size of my screen

2001-09-05 Thread jennifer


On Wednesday 05 September 2001 20:09, Marcelo Maraz wrote:
 How can I change my resolution. (today is 800x600)
 I have M8 installed

 thanks


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Re: [newbie] Resolution / size of my screen

2001-09-05 Thread jennifer


For a quick fix use ctrl + alt and the plus or minus sign. 

If you want to permnatly change it use the mandrake control center, choose 
the display option. Test before you apply the changes, I have personally 
rendered X impossible to load.





On Wednesday 05 September 2001 20:09, Marcelo Maraz wrote:
 How can I change my resolution. (today is 800x600)
 I have M8 installed

 thanks


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Re: [newbie] SiS 630 chipset

2001-09-05 Thread Michael Falzon


Hi
how did u go with this ( why i'm i asking ? i have a tagra notebook that
has a sis 630 video card and i' get black srceen )

now from what i can pick up from the http://www.xfree86.org/

i'm getting  this
4. Troubleshooting
Some video modes with high dot-clocks don't work at all, resulting on black
screen. Lowering dotclock in that case could solve the problem. 



but i'n not to sure what this is all about ( going to read more about it )

Michael Falzon
Last Of The BBs Sysop
Mozy's Swamp BBs  Red Dwarf BBs
http://mozysswamp.yi.org
Registered Linux user #204397



- Original Message -
From: Navin Daryanani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 2:54 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] SiS 630 chipset


 yes. I have tried the driver from www.sis.com -
 editing of /etc/X11/XFree86- manually or with xconfigurator with
various
 combinations on parameters, etc. nothing.

 the only thing I have not tried is recompiling the kernel.

 navin



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Derek
 Jennings
 Sent: Friday, 31 August 2001 12:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] SiS 630 chipset




 --  Forwarded Message  --
 Subject: Re: [newbie] SiS 735 chipset/ecs k7s5a
 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:17:07 -0400
 From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On Thursday 30 August 2001  3:24 am, you wrote:
  Talking about SiS -- please tell me if anyone can solve my problem
 
  I have a laptop with the display SiS630. I installed Mdk 8.0, freq1,
freq2
  and freq3. None of them could recognize the display device. Whenever I
 used
  to start X the screen would come divided in two where the bottom part of
  the screen would somehow wrap around the top of the screen. I tried
  everything I knew or could find on the web but to no success. Ultimately
I
  used the code vga=791 in the lilo.conf. That gave me a framebuffer mode
(I
  think). BUT the problem does not stop here. I could do everything once I
  log in X. But once I log out of the X session - the text mode does not
 come
  back - no matter what I try to do. I have tried switching with the
virtual
  screens keys, etc. but to no success. If I restart the X session by
typing
  startx I do get the X session back.

 You can edit the file /etc/X11/XF86Config  (if you are using Xfree 3.x.x)
 or  /etx/X11/XF86Config-4  (for XFree 4.x.x)  and set up any monitor
 parameters you please.

  Moreover my soundcard is never detected too - thus I can never play
sound
  on my linux box.
 
  Can anyone can please suggest something.

 Did you try the Sis Driver?
 Available at http://www.sis.com/support/driver/linux.htm

 There are video and audio drivers there.

  Regards
  Navin


 Good luck

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Re: [newbie] Find Command


Careful!  The Unix shell tries to glob wildcards
before initiating the command - basically expand them
out in the current directory.  (Glob is a transitive
verb - I glob, you glob, he, she, it is globbing) ;-)

Thus in Miark's find command example, if there's a
file in the current directory called, say thread, then
you'll find that Unix ends up expanding the wildcards
and running: find /usr -name thread - which is not
what you want.  

So, if you don't want inadvertent globbing, you must
quote the wildcard viz: find /usr -name *read*

Of course, bash may be different - I'm an old ksh and
sh user(never liked csh).  Will try this at home
tonight (if I remember).

Regards,
Ron.

--- Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This should work: find /usr -name *read*
 
 Miark
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: SoloCDM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Linux-Mandrake Newbie
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 6:53 AM
 Subject: [newbie] Find Command
 
 
  How is it possible to force the find command to
 list all files with
  read in the filename, regardless whether they
 start with a period
  or not?
  
  I already tried the following:
  
 find /usr -iname .*read* -iname *read*
 -type f -print
  
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list/newsgroup address and my email address
 in To:.
  
 

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[newbie] I'm confused (normal situation). ;-)

2001-09-05 Thread Ronald J. Hall


Okay...I tried to configure my Linux box to network with my 2 sons Windoze
boxes...and...dunno. I can do a:

ifconfig eth0

and I get the message about

UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST

so...I guess its running?

Afterwards though, I could no longer use kppp to connect to the Internet. It
kept asking for a root password for network monitor. So I reinstalled kppp
(draknet). I could dial out then, and connect (seemed 2 anyways) but Licq and
Netscape could not resolve...

I played around with it some more (yeah - I know - dangerous) and finally
wound up with Network monitor connected to the 'Net (right now, AAMOF), and
Netscape/Licq work... Its a graph though. Odd...not kppp.

Any ideas on what I did wrong, how to fix it, if necessary, and how do I see
the 2 Windog machines? They are darkforce2 and darkforce3 under the Windows
side of networking...

Thanks much...

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Re: [newbie] I'm confused (normal situation). ;-)


this sounds like a few configuration problems, first what does the 
/etc/resolv.conf show the correct dns of your ISP? do you have samba up and 
running? what about the IP numbers for your eth0? 

On Wednesday 05 September 2001 21:02, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 Okay...I tried to configure my Linux box to network with my 2 sons Windoze
 boxes...and...dunno. I can do a:

 ifconfig eth0

 and I get the message about

 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST

 so...I guess its running?

 Afterwards though, I could no longer use kppp to connect to the Internet.
 It kept asking for a root password for network monitor. So I reinstalled
 kppp (draknet). I could dial out then, and connect (seemed 2 anyways) but
 Licq and Netscape could not resolve...

 I played around with it some more (yeah - I know - dangerous) and finally
 wound up with Network monitor connected to the 'Net (right now, AAMOF), and
 Netscape/Licq work... Its a graph though. Odd...not kppp.

 Any ideas on what I did wrong, how to fix it, if necessary, and how do I
 see the 2 Windog machines? They are darkforce2 and darkforce3 under the
 Windows side of networking...

 Thanks much...


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Re: [newbie] SiS 630 chipset



I just bought a SiS motherboard.  Does SiS stand for SiS(ie), cause this
motherboard is a pain!

On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Michael Falzon wrote:

 Hi
 how did u go with this ( why i'm i asking ? i have a tagra notebook that
 has a sis 630 video card and i' get black srceen )

 now from what i can pick up from the http://www.xfree86.org/

 i'm getting  this
 4. Troubleshooting
 Some video modes with high dot-clocks don't work at all, resulting on black
 screen. Lowering dotclock in that case could solve the problem. 



 but i'n not to sure what this is all about ( going to read more about it )

 Michael Falzon
 Last Of The BBs Sysop
 Mozy's Swamp BBs  Red Dwarf BBs
 http://mozysswamp.yi.org
 Registered Linux user #204397



 - Original Message -
 From: Navin Daryanani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 2:54 PM
 Subject: RE: [newbie] SiS 630 chipset


  yes. I have tried the driver from www.sis.com -
  editing of /etc/X11/XFree86- manually or with xconfigurator with
 various
  combinations on parameters, etc. nothing.
 
  the only thing I have not tried is recompiling the kernel.
 
  navin
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Derek
  Jennings
  Sent: Friday, 31 August 2001 12:20 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] SiS 630 chipset
 
 
 
 
  --  Forwarded Message  --
  Subject: Re: [newbie] SiS 735 chipset/ecs k7s5a
  Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:17:07 -0400
  From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  On Thursday 30 August 2001  3:24 am, you wrote:
   Talking about SiS -- please tell me if anyone can solve my problem
  
   I have a laptop with the display SiS630. I installed Mdk 8.0, freq1,
 freq2
   and freq3. None of them could recognize the display device. Whenever I
  used
   to start X the screen would come divided in two where the bottom part of
   the screen would somehow wrap around the top of the screen. I tried
   everything I knew or could find on the web but to no success. Ultimately
 I
   used the code vga=791 in the lilo.conf. That gave me a framebuffer mode
 (I
   think). BUT the problem does not stop here. I could do everything once I
   log in X. But once I log out of the X session - the text mode does not
  come
   back - no matter what I try to do. I have tried switching with the
 virtual
   screens keys, etc. but to no success. If I restart the X session by
 typing
   startx I do get the X session back.
 
  You can edit the file /etc/X11/XF86Config  (if you are using Xfree 3.x.x)
  or  /etx/X11/XF86Config-4  (for XFree 4.x.x)  and set up any monitor
  parameters you please.
 
   Moreover my soundcard is never detected too - thus I can never play
 sound
   on my linux box.
  
   Can anyone can please suggest something.
 
  Did you try the Sis Driver?
  Available at http://www.sis.com/support/driver/linux.htm
 
  There are video and audio drivers there.
 
   Regards
   Navin
 
 
  Good luck
 
  Derek
 
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Re: [newbie] I'm confused (normal situation). ;-)


On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Ronald J. Hall wrote:

 Okay...I tried to configure my Linux box to network with my 2 sons Windoze
 boxes...and...dunno. I can do a:

 ifconfig eth0

 and I get the message about

 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST

Is this all?  Is ther emore?



 so...I guess its running?

 Afterwards though, I could no longer use kppp to connect to the Internet. It
 kept asking for a root password for network monitor. So I reinstalled kppp
 (draknet). I could dial out then, and connect (seemed 2 anyways) but Licq and
 Netscape could not resolve...

 I played around with it some more (yeah - I know - dangerous) and finally
 wound up with Network monitor connected to the 'Net (right now, AAMOF), and
 Netscape/Licq work... Its a graph though. Odd...not kppp.

 Any ideas on what I did wrong, how to fix it, if necessary, and how do I see
 the 2 Windog machines? They are darkforce2 and darkforce3 under the Windows
 side of networking...

 Thanks much...



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[newbie] simple command line question

2001-09-05 Thread jennifer


This happens to me all the time, but I am finnaly going to put the question 
to you guys no matter how embarassing it is.

When I'm using bash, I sometimes hit the ' (comma) key instead of enter and 
then get brought into a loop I can't get out of. I imagine this is some sort 
of feature that would allow you to enter extra long command sequences but the 
enter key does not activate the command, nor can I find anyway to get out 
of the loop.  (or shall i say in the loop because I don't have a clue 
smiles  All i get is the   charactor no matter what monkey business I try 
with the key bored.

With humble humilty, 

jen
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Re: [newbie] SiS 630 chipset

2001-09-05 Thread Michael Falzon


Hi
   Network card works ok  ( sis 900 pci)
   USB works ok ( sis 7001 )
   sound works ok (sis 7018)
   it just not the display (sis 630 )

if it was not a notebook i wound have just remove it 


- Original Message -
From: Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] SiS 630 chipset



 I just bought a SiS motherboard.  Does SiS stand for SiS(ie), cause this
 motherboard is a pain!

 On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Michael Falzon wrote:

  Hi
  how did u go with this ( why i'm i asking ? i have a tagra notebook
that
  has a sis 630 video card and i' get black srceen )
 
  now from what i can pick up from the http://www.xfree86.org/
 
  i'm getting  this
  4. Troubleshooting
  Some video modes with high dot-clocks don't work at all, resulting on
black
  screen. Lowering dotclock in that case could solve the problem. 
 
 
 
  but i'n not to sure what this is all about ( going to read more about
it )
 
  Michael Falzon
  Last Of The BBs Sysop
  Mozy's Swamp BBs  Red Dwarf BBs
  http://mozysswamp.yi.org
  Registered Linux user #204397
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Navin Daryanani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 2:54 PM
  Subject: RE: [newbie] SiS 630 chipset
 
 
   yes. I have tried the driver from www.sis.com -
   editing of /etc/X11/XFree86- manually or with xconfigurator with
  various
   combinations on parameters, etc. nothing.
  
   the only thing I have not tried is recompiling the kernel.
  
   navin
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Derek
   Jennings
   Sent: Friday, 31 August 2001 12:20 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [newbie] SiS 630 chipset
  
  
  
  
   --  Forwarded Message  --
   Subject: Re: [newbie] SiS 735 chipset/ecs k7s5a
   Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:17:07 -0400
   From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
   On Thursday 30 August 2001  3:24 am, you wrote:
Talking about SiS -- please tell me if anyone can solve my
problem
   
I have a laptop with the display SiS630. I installed Mdk 8.0, freq1,
  freq2
and freq3. None of them could recognize the display device. Whenever
I
   used
to start X the screen would come divided in two where the bottom
part of
the screen would somehow wrap around the top of the screen. I tried
everything I knew or could find on the web but to no success.
Ultimately
  I
used the code vga=791 in the lilo.conf. That gave me a framebuffer
mode
  (I
think). BUT the problem does not stop here. I could do everything
once I
log in X. But once I log out of the X session - the text mode does
not
   come
back - no matter what I try to do. I have tried switching with the
  virtual
screens keys, etc. but to no success. If I restart the X session by
  typing
startx I do get the X session back.
  
   You can edit the file /etc/X11/XF86Config  (if you are using Xfree
3.x.x)
   or  /etx/X11/XF86Config-4  (for XFree 4.x.x)  and set up any monitor
   parameters you please.
  
Moreover my soundcard is never detected too - thus I can never play
  sound
on my linux box.
   
Can anyone can please suggest something.
  
   Did you try the Sis Driver?
   Available at http://www.sis.com/support/driver/linux.htm
  
   There are video and audio drivers there.
  
Regards
Navin
  
  
   Good luck
  
   Derek
  
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Re: [newbie] RAM: How much is enough?


On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:54, Jose M. Sanchez wrote:
 That one is right up there with memorable sayings from CEO's...

 Another of my favorites was DEC's CEO saying that no one would ever have
 or tolerate a computer at home.

There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home. -- Ken 
Olson, President, Chairman and Founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977

And, of course, this famous quote:

I think there is a world market for maybe five computers -- Thomas J. 
Watson, Chaiman of IBM, 1943.

And a few more:

I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system, and 
possibly program, of all time. As the successor to DOS, which has over 
10,000,000 systems in use, it creates incredible opportunities for everyone 
involved with PCs. -- Bill Gates (from the Foreword to the OS/2 Programmers' 
Guide)

Anyone who says you can have a lot of widely dispersed people hack away on a 
complicated piece of code and avoid total anarchy has never managed a 
software project. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum, 1992, writing to Linus Torvalds.

 Or at SIG-GRAPH, one of the VP's from Evans and Sutherland saying that
 PC's would never have enough graphics horsepower to do anything in real
 time...

If you read the recent press release from nVidia, you will see that they can 
render Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (the movie) in real-time. 
Examine the release closer and you will see that it is rendering at a 
whopping two-and-a-half frames per second! Real-time indeed...

But seriously, this is still a magnificient feat -- but it was overhyped. 
Some months ago, I saw a video of Steve Jobs presenting the then-new nVidia 
GeForce 3 on Mac hardware. He showed a short animated 3D movie that his 
company, Pixar, made back in 1985. He said that back then it took a Cray 
supercomputer 75 hours to render a single second of animation. He then 
exclaimed that what the audience was viewing on the large screeen at the 
front of the auditorium was being rendered in _real-time_ by a GeForce 3 in a 
Mac. Simply amazing.

 -JMS
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 |-Original Message-
 |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sridhar
 |Dhanapalan
 |Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 8:50 AM
 |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 |[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |Subject: Re: [newbie] RAM: How much is enough?
 |
 |
 |Perhaps you mean this little quote:
 |
 |640K ought to be enough for anybody. -- Bill Gates, 1981
 |
 |On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:21, Jose M. Sanchez wrote:
 | Didn't someone once say that 640K of Ram was more than anyone would
 | ever need?
 |
 | -JMS
 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |
 | |-Original Message-
 | |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of etharp
 | |Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 7:00 AM
 | |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charles Punch;
 | |[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | |Subject: Re: [newbie] RAM: How much is enough?
 | |
 | |
 | |enough RAM and Enough Money are myths. they do not
 |
 |really exist,
 |
 | |you always want more.
 |
 |--
 |Sridhar Dhanapalan.
 | There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
 | LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
 | -- Jeremy S. Anderson

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Re: [newbie] I'm confused (normal situation). ;-)



I'm a Pine bigot, so I don't really care.  Whatever anybody throws at me
will em no good!

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, etharp wrote:

 Lately we have been getting more and more attachments to the mail from this
 list. Some Have Even been graphics. while I almost never open the
 attachments, I wonder what other folks around here think. personally if
 something I am paying attention to ain't in the text of the message, the
 delete key may find it's way to my finger. Sorry did not see the attachments.
 the info about your IP and such would have been on the rest of that info if
 you were correctly setup.

 On Wednesday 05 September 2001 21:43, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
  Arthur H. Johnson II wrote:
   Is this all?  Is there more?
 
  Umm, actually lots, but I thought that was the pertinent part. ;-)
 
  Anyways, check the attachments for more info, its what info I knew to
  obtain (which admittedly isn't much) ;-(
 
  Thanks for any help! ;-)

 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=network-info.txt
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Re: [newbie] SiS 630 chipset



Everyting works fine, just the Video card sucks.

On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Michael Falzon wrote:

 Hi
Network card works ok  ( sis 900 pci)
USB works ok ( sis 7001 )
sound works ok (sis 7018)
it just not the display (sis 630 )

 if it was not a notebook i wound have just remove it 


 - Original Message -
 From: Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] SiS 630 chipset


 
  I just bought a SiS motherboard.  Does SiS stand for SiS(ie), cause this
  motherboard is a pain!
 
  On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Michael Falzon wrote:
 
   Hi
   how did u go with this ( why i'm i asking ? i have a tagra notebook
 that
   has a sis 630 video card and i' get black srceen )
  
   now from what i can pick up from the http://www.xfree86.org/
  
   i'm getting  this
   4. Troubleshooting
   Some video modes with high dot-clocks don't work at all, resulting on
 black
   screen. Lowering dotclock in that case could solve the problem. 
  
  
  
   but i'n not to sure what this is all about ( going to read more about
 it )
  
   Michael Falzon
   Last Of The BBs Sysop
   Mozy's Swamp BBs  Red Dwarf BBs
   http://mozysswamp.yi.org
   Registered Linux user #204397
  
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Navin Daryanani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 2:54 PM
   Subject: RE: [newbie] SiS 630 chipset
  
  
yes. I have tried the driver from www.sis.com -
editing of /etc/X11/XFree86- manually or with xconfigurator with
   various
combinations on parameters, etc. nothing.
   
the only thing I have not tried is recompiling the kernel.
   
navin
   
   
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Derek
Jennings
Sent: Friday, 31 August 2001 12:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] SiS 630 chipset
   
   
   
   
--  Forwarded Message  --
Subject: Re: [newbie] SiS 735 chipset/ecs k7s5a
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:17:07 -0400
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
On Thursday 30 August 2001  3:24 am, you wrote:
 Talking about SiS -- please tell me if anyone can solve my
 problem

 I have a laptop with the display SiS630. I installed Mdk 8.0, freq1,
   freq2
 and freq3. None of them could recognize the display device. Whenever
 I
used
 to start X the screen would come divided in two where the bottom
 part of
 the screen would somehow wrap around the top of the screen. I tried
 everything I knew or could find on the web but to no success.
 Ultimately
   I
 used the code vga=791 in the lilo.conf. That gave me a framebuffer
 mode
   (I
 think). BUT the problem does not stop here. I could do everything
 once I
 log in X. But once I log out of the X session - the text mode does
 not
come
 back - no matter what I try to do. I have tried switching with the
   virtual
 screens keys, etc. but to no success. If I restart the X session by
   typing
 startx I do get the X session back.
   
You can edit the file /etc/X11/XF86Config  (if you are using Xfree
 3.x.x)
or  /etx/X11/XF86Config-4  (for XFree 4.x.x)  and set up any monitor
parameters you please.
   
 Moreover my soundcard is never detected too - thus I can never play
   sound
 on my linux box.

 Can anyone can please suggest something.
   
Did you try the Sis Driver?
Available at http://www.sis.com/support/driver/linux.htm
   
There are video and audio drivers there.
   
 Regards
 Navin
   
   
Good luck
   
Derek
   
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Re: [newbie] I'm confused (normal situation). ;-)



Oh, and no, I don't usually pay attention to weather or not the email has
attachements.   Its best to put all info into the body.

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, etharp wrote:

 Lately we have been getting more and more attachments to the mail from this
 list. Some Have Even been graphics. while I almost never open the
 attachments, I wonder what other folks around here think. personally if
 something I am paying attention to ain't in the text of the message, the
 delete key may find it's way to my finger. Sorry did not see the attachments.
 the info about your IP and such would have been on the rest of that info if
 you were correctly setup.

 On Wednesday 05 September 2001 21:43, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
  Arthur H. Johnson II wrote:
   Is this all?  Is there more?
 
  Umm, actually lots, but I thought that was the pertinent part. ;-)
 
  Anyways, check the attachments for more info, its what info I knew to
  obtain (which admittedly isn't much) ;-(
 
  Thanks for any help! ;-)

 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=network-info.txt
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 Content-Description:
 

 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer
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[newbie] new linux drivers for nvidia cards Version: 1.0-1512

2001-09-05 Thread mike cola


the new linux drivers Version: 1.0-1512 for nvidia cards are out now
at http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=linux .. 

im getting my geforce2mx next week so anyone already running these drivers? any 
feedback?

thanks
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Re: [newbie] manage command-line scroll



--- Peter Rymshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks everyone re: the | more solution. I thought
 that only worked inside a file. snip

Important Unix concept here.  Unix has 3 default
files for every command.  These are: stdin (standard
input), stdout (output) and stderr (error).  Every
command you run opens these three automatically. 
Usually stdin is your keyboard, while stdout and
stderr are your screen.  

You have the power to redirect these to wherever you
want when you invoke a command.  That's what  and 
do (with filenames!).   directs stdout to a file,
while  says that stdin is to come from a file.  The
fact that stderr is different is cool - for example, a
find command from / will return access errors for
unmounted filesystems.  If you use , those error
messages till come to the screen, while stdout happily
goes to the file.  (in fact, you can redirect stderr
too: just use 2).

These 3 files are ALWAYS opened.  Commands that take
filenames as arguments often re-use one or more of
these.  For example, cat file1 will display the
contents of file1.  But if you type in cat by itself,
it looks like nothing happens - except your command
prompt has disappeared!  In fact, what's happened is
that it's opened stdin (by default) and will display
the contents.  Try it.  You can then type something in
and whenever you hit Enter it will display what you
type!  Use Ctrl-C to exit.

A pipe (i.e. |) simply connects stdout from the
command to the left of | to stdin command to the
right.  The command more file1 is just like cat file1
(of course, with screen pauses) - what I mean is that
if you type in more by itself, it expects input from
stdin.  That's why locate | more works - since more
doesn't have an argument which tells it the file to
display, it draws its input from stdin.  The pipe has
linked stdin to stdout from the locate command.

Of course, this is an ENORMOUS subject - pipes and
redirection are the guts of Unix and is where it draws
its true power.  (My first day on VMS: Hey, how do
you do a pipe here???).  

I've tried to make this as clear as possible in as few
words as possible.  There a tons of reference material
out there, but I'm just trying to explain the
underlying concept here.  Understand this concept and
Unix suddenly will become a LOT clearer!

Regards,
Ron.

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Re: [newbie] kmail problem

2001-09-05 Thread g.sanders


On Wednesday 05 September 2001 19:40, you wrote:

 Try the following:

 1. Make sure postfix is up and running:
   a. You have the package installed (run rpm -qa|grep postfix),
   b. The postfix service is running on startup (run drakxservices)

  outgoing is through: smtp.mynewisp.net

 2. Set smtp outgoing mail in kmail to localhost

 3. Try it sending a message to yourself

 Hope that helps  ;)

Thank you! Works great now! 

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Re: [newbie] I'm confused (normal situation). ;-)



--- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Lately we have been getting more and more
 attachments to the mail from this 
 list. snip

*EVERY* email I get from this list now has a little
paper clip symbol attached showing me I have an
attachment.  It would appear that the list is
automatically adding the little MandrakeSoft
advertisement on every email submitted and I think
THAT is the attachment.

I was annoyed at first, but now don't care.  If it
helps Mandrake  what the heck.

Ron.


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Re: [newbie] simple command line question


Jen,

It's a backquote, by the way...:)  All bash is doing
is waiting for you to complete the command.  The
little  is a prompt it gives you to show it's still
communicating with you - it's just waiting for you to
give the closing backquote!

This works for any command that is clearly not
finished, such as for ... do.  bash will keep
prompting you with  until it gets the closing done.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Ron.

--- jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This happens to me all the time, but I am finnaly
 going to put the question 
 to you guys no matter how embarassing it is.
 
 When I'm using bash, I sometimes hit the ' (comma)
 key instead of enter and 
 then get brought into a loop I can't get out of. I
 imagine this is some sort 
 of feature that would allow you to enter extra long
 command sequences but the 
 enter key does not activate the command, nor can I
 find anyway to get out 
 of the loop.  (or shall i say in the loop because I
 don't have a clue 
 smiles  All i get is the   charactor no matter
 what monkey business I try 
 with the key bored.
 
 With humble humilty, 
 
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Re: [newbie] HELP: QuickCam USB for Mandrake 8.0

2001-09-05 Thread Rob


On Wednesday 05 September 2001 11:24 am, you wrote:

there is a quickcam express driver in development at www.sourceforge.net.  
Right now it's in Alpha development (seems it been for in development for 
over a year)   I've manage to get it working for my cam.  just wish there 
were a netmeeting for linux or something like compatible like to work with a 
windows conferencing versions.

 I have a Logitech QuickCam Pro (light ring). This device is
 Recognized in Mandrake 8.0. My question is, now what? How do
 I retrieve images with it. I have been going around in circles
 Installing gqcam, xawtv, etc. I get errors with xawtv, with
 /dev/video0: no such device.

 Thanks,

 Mark



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[newbie] Setting up for autorun

2001-09-05 Thread Incubus


Hello, been lurking a bit and had a question that the gurus can help me 
with.  I recently installed MySQL from source code and thusly, didn't get 
everything entered automagically into my etc/rc.d/init.d folder for 
execution at bootup.  I copied the  mysql.server file into init.d and ran 
the command in start and stop to verify it worked, which it did.  My 
problem is...how do I get it to autostart on reboot?  I tried rebooting to 
test it and no go.  I'm sure it has to do with the other rc.1, etc. 
folders, but I'm not quite sure how to go about it.

Thanks.


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Re: [newbie] Mac OS X and display managers


On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 00:56, Mark Johnson wrote:
 My wife went out and bought OS X but I really don't know a thing about Macs
 or OS X. But I do know that OS X is running on some version of the BSD
 kernel.  If that's the case does anyone know if it would be possible to:

 1) access the linux desktop from the mac?

Dunno about this. There may be something in the PPC version of Mandrake 8.0 
for this, although I doubt it.

 2) access the mac desktop from linux (I think I have found some display
 managers that run on OS X but I'm not sure it it'll serve up Aqua)

There is an app that allows you to run GNU/Linux with X on one tty and a Mac 
desktop (up to MacOS 9) on another tty. If you have MacOS X installed you 
should also have MacOS 9 installed as well (MacOS X uses it to run old apps). 
Unfortunately, I don't remember its name (I haven't touched a Mac in about 10 
years).

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Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already


 Yeah Right We Hate Mirosoft... Nahh I kinda like it only with its FREE...
 

I don't hate micro$oft. I don't like their software. It is full of bugs,
their OS-like systems crash faster than I can hit the Reset button, and things
get worse and worse through each release.
Additionally, the spy-ware factor is something that gets more and more
attention.

Their initial idea to make the computer accessible for everyone was good.
How many moms and pensioners would be able to use the computer without Win 9X
bugware? Even Win 3.x presented enough problems previously.
The ease-of-use factor that they presented (stole from others? but then, who
does not steal ideas from others in this industry) made a big difference to
the world in general.
I mean, did the KDE or Gnome interface look like this (expanding menu's,
taskbar etc) before Win95 came out?  (I don't know, since I did not use Linux
then, I ran OS/2.)

I would not even use M$ products if they _were_ free. I'd maybe use them if
they were stable. In that area is my importance. And Linux provides that.

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Re: [newbie] Concurrent Remote X Login

2001-09-05 Thread hinet


used vnc instead of  x remote!
- Original Message -
From: Michael D. Viron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Concurrent Remote X Login


 At 11:53 AM 09/04/2001 -0400, Arthur H. Johnson II wrote:
 
 Start X in failsafe mode.  run xhost +, then run ssh -X speedy.

 'xhost +' is a very dangerous command to run, since it enables access from
 all PCs with any IP (unless of course, these systems are behind a
firewall,
 in which case you can block access from outside the firewall).  A much
 better (and incidentally more secure) way to deal with this is to do
'xhost
 + 111.111.111.111' and add each ip / host individually.

 Michael

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Re: [newbie] Chips and Technologies 65555 on ERA1000 notebook

2001-09-05 Thread civileme


On Tuesday 04 September 2001 17:06, Luca wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm a new Linux user and a new member of newbie discussion list.

 I installed the Linux Mandrake 8.0 version on my DUAL - ERA1000 notebook:
 Processor Intel 266 MHz MMX - 64 Mb RAM -
 LCD 14.1 TFT - VGA 1024x768 - graphic chip Chips and Technologies 6 -
 PCI - CD-ROM Teac CD-220EA

 I set the following parameters:
 graphic board:Chips and Tecnologies CT6
 monitor: generic LCD panel 1024 x 768
 resolution:  1024x768 - 16 bit

 but it doesn't work properly:
 the screen size doesn't fit all the LCD area and therefore, because the
 1024x768 resolution is remapped into a smaller area, the characters and the
 icons aren't clear and well defined. There are also a lot of noise on LCD
 when I move the mouse and when there is video activity. I tried many others
 monitor settings but without solution.

 Please, is there someone who can help me ?
 Thank you and Best Regards !

 Luca Leopardi (Italy)

The CT 6 drivers were assembled at XFree.org without proper attentin
to modelines.

First of all, use expert mode to install and select XFree-3.3.6 the XFree-4 
series does not support this one well at all.

Next, after you install, boot in console mode and use your favorite editor--I 
recommend you install joe and set the .joerc in root's directory to the style 
you want, either WordStar (stabdard) or copy /etc/joe/jmacs there for emacs 
keys or /etc/joe/jpicorc for pico behavior--In any case, joe provides 
on-screen help for cursor movement and edit commands--

Once that is done, use the su command to gain root access and edit the file

joe /etc/X11/XF86Config

browse down through the modelines and find those that correspond to 1024x768 
at 60Hz refresh.  Erase all the others.  

Now on the modeline for 1024x768 at 60Hz, make sure of the following--it will 
look like this:

# 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync
Modeline 1024x768651024 1032 1176 1344   768  771  777  806 -hsync 
-v

change that to values like this

# 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync
Modeline 1024x768651022 1032 1176 1344   764  771  777  806 -hsync 
-v
on the first two numbers for hsync and vsync respectively keep the largest 
number yielded by subtracting to 15 on horizontal (first two numbers) and 7 
on the vertical (fifth and sixth numbers after the 65)
Now the other problem--the 6 doesn't really clock fast enough to support 
this mode.

In the devices section of the file where the 6 is identified and you see 
the line

Option sw_cursor

(just search for sw_cur)

add the following

 DACSpeed (Some number between 25.0 and 60.0)
 Chipset  ct6

Example  DACSpeed 53.1

That particular setting worked for a 1024x768 screen on a Panasonic CF-62 
notebook that uses the same chip.  You may have to experiment with that clock 
and also watch the temperature of the chip.  Take the lowest seting that 
provides an acceptable screen.

Do not attempt higher refresh rates--most probably you are using a 70Hz 
refresh rate now, and erasing that line will stop  the system from trying to 
use it.

Close your edit, try startx, bounce out with ctrl-alt-backspace and edit 
again until you have it tuned satisfactorily--usually I like to halve the 
ranges and try the opposite direction when I am obvioulsy going the wrong way.

When you have a display that suits, congratulate yourself--you have just 
accomplished the same job the CT engineers and your notebook builder 
engineers did for windows (and could have done for linux if their managers 
believed a market was there).

The 6 is one of the most cranky chipsets to get running right, and it is 
prone ot overheating if overdriven, so select the lowest frequencies that 
give satisfactory display.

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Re: [newbie] Fw: Remote Administration


might help to know what version of MDK you are using, but lets assume it is 
7.2 or newer.
I know you want an x window under M$ winders, but for the real admin 
WEBMIN is your friend. you can access it from any graphical web browser 
that can connect through the firewall to your Linux box. in the brwoser input 
HTTPS://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:1, where xxx is the IP of your linux box

On Tuesday 04 September 2001 22:11, Nelson Bartley wrote:
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 From: Nelson Bartley
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 Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 10:11 PM
 Subject: Fw: Remote Administration



 - Original Message -
 From: Nelson Bartley
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 10:03 PM
 Subject: Remote Administration


 Hi guys,

 I'm looking for options about remote admining my linux box from my win box.
 I've currently got it running as a server, however I enjoy using the X
 interface to manage the computer, using specifically the Mandrake Update
 utility.

 Now I've tried configuring VNC and I've failed miserably, and I was
 wondering if there are any tutorials on it, or whether anyone knows of
 another good remote administration tool like it.

 AND PLEASE DON'T START TALKING ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF TERMINALS! This is an
 internal network thing where security is the furthest thing on my mind.

 Thanks,
 Nelson Bartley
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[newbie] Recompiling iwht IPChains

2001-09-05 Thread Olly Marshall


Hi,

Does anyone know how i can go about recompliling the mandrake kernel with
IPChains support?

Ive been told i need to do this to get teh firewall addon working properly



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Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already

2001-09-05 Thread civileme


On Wednesday 05 September 2001 02:12, Paul wrote:
 Hi all,
 Found this interesting:

 The first OEM version of Windows XP is available since only 1 week, and
 there are already cracks available that make it useable without
 registration. The crack files are available throught personal homepages of
 several people already, under the name 'corpfiles.zip'. The size is about
 13 megs. Unzip the files over an existing installation of XP and all
 security is bypassed.

 Reference for this info is planet multimedia, don't know what or where
 that is. But interesting nonetheless...

 Paul


Frightening, isn't it?  A system with FULL RAW SOCKET capability has such 
poor security that it is a joke.  If this hack can happen, and since the home 
edition gives all users root privileges, when the cable modem folks get 
cracked by script kiddies, then the script kiddies will possess formidable 
weapons.  It is quite thinkable that the internet will see a reign of terror 
thanks to the ego of one company's marketing department.

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RE: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already

2001-09-05 Thread FLYNN, Steve


I suspect you might when all the script kidding get their hands on a few
hundred in XP machines with Raw Sockets available and they start making
CodeRed look like a toy.

Bad times are ahead lads...bad times...

:-(

Steve Flynn
NOP Data Migration Ops Analyst
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Subject:Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already

Who cares?

Paul wrote:

 Hi all,
 Found this interesting:

 The first OEM version of Windows XP is available since only 1
week, and there
 are already cracks available that make it useable without
registration.
 The crack files are available throught personal homepages of
several people
 already, under the name 'corpfiles.zip'. The size is about 13
megs. Unzip the
 files over an existing installation of XP and all security is
bypassed.

 Reference for this info is planet multimedia, don't know what or
where that
 is. But interesting nonetheless...

 Paul



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Re: [newbie] RAM: How much is enough?


 On 05 Sep 2001 14:08:13 +0200, Robert MacLean wrote:
  I think so.If I remember right they work for Microsoft now on
  something called Windows Memory Management ;)
  
   Didn't someone once say that 640K of Ram was more than anyone would
  ever
   need?
 
 The infamous Bill Gates said this.

Must be the amount of human brain tissue Microsoft spends on security issues...

Paul




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Re: [newbie] RAM: How much is enough?