Re: [newbie-it] installazione xine divx 4.02
--- luigi pinna [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: è vero: le librerie son state installate correttamente l'unico problema quando vado a fare il configure di xine-ui mi dice che non trova installate le librerie perchè son in un'altra directory (precisamente in /usr/local/lib/xine). come faccio a fargli cercare le librerie in quella directory? qual'è il file che devo aprire e modificare? grazie gigi Ok, allora forse puoi risolvere tutto impostando due variabili di ambiente. Purtroppo ora sono su windows e a memoria non ricordo quali siano, ma quando arrivo a casa ti mando una mail. Ciao! Steo. __ Iscriviti al Meglio della Settimana, la newsletter di Yahoo! Per saperne di più vai alla pagina: http://buongiorno.yahoo.it
Re: [newbie-it] kernel
--- Mark_AKA_VèrB@L [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Dove trovare versioni aggiornate del kernel mandrake? Son fermo alla 2.4.3-mdk! Se vuoi per forza il kernel mdk puoi scaricare i sorgenti dal sito Mandrake e ricompilarlo. C'e' il 2.4.8 che e' quello che monta la mdk 8.1. Altrimenti puoi scaricarti l'ultima versilne da www.kernel.org (credo che l'ultima sia la 2.4.16 o 2.4.17). Ciao! Steo. P.S.: Occhio che nel kernel 2.4.8 della mdk hanno tolto il supporto per il supermount, quindi devi poi modificare l'/etc/fstab. RiCiao! __ Iscriviti al Meglio della Settimana, la newsletter di Yahoo! Per saperne di più vai alla pagina: http://buongiorno.yahoo.it
[newbie-it] Modem HAMR5600
Ciao, anch'io ho un notebook progress e non riesco a fare funzionare il modem HAMR5600. Qualcuno potrebbe spedirmi l'RPM per farlo funzionare?? Ho visto che anche qualche altra persona ha avuto problemi con il monitor, anch'io ne ho avuti e ho deciso di scrivere alla progress. Loro mi hanno inviato dei file di testo su come configurare lilo e il 386 config. Questa soluzione però è stata fornita da un'altro utente e dovrebbe funzionare con red hat 7.1, non è escluso comunque che possa funzionare con altre distribuzioni. Grazie Eros
Re: [newbie-it] SAMBA
Allora, c'ho perso un pò di tempo... ma alla fine con piena soddisfazione ce l'ho fatta (quasi!) :) compilato il pacchetto Samba 3 in versione Alpha! installato e installato il suo 'tutore' XINETD, egregio deamon! Compilati i due file sotto /etc/xinetd.d/ per smdb e nmbd! che dire, gira tutto alla perfezione, persino lo SWAT (stesso procedimento sotto xinetd) ora però una domanda? qual'è l'utente che chiede al login di una dir condivisa? non dovrebbero essere quelle di sistema Linux? perchè con root non c'è verso di loggare nella dir? Cmq ottimo lavoro questo samba! Cu s%N! Ciaociao Byez ! L8r \\marco [www] http://members.xoom.it/verbal_666 ||| http://surf.to/verbal_666 [email] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ||| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ||| [EMAIL PROTECTED] [icq] 19758469 ] do you have an opinion ? ] a mind of your own ? ] i thought you were special. ] i thought you should know. ] but i've run out of patience, ] i couldn't care less. ] now i lay me down to sleep, ] pray the Lord my soul to keep, ] if i die before i wake, ] pray the Lord my soul to take. ] 10 hippopotamuses to change your mind. ] Dance! Even if you have nowhere to do it but in your own living room. ] oh my God, it's full of stars! - Original Message - From: Sebastiano Cordiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] SAMBA On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 19:03:03 +0100 Mark AKA VèrB@L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ho appena downloadato la v. 2.2.2 dal sito www.samba.org! C'è modo di farla girare sotto Mandrake 8.0? Ho provato di tutto... la compilazione RPM non va a buon fine! Allora al solito sono andato in sources e configure/make/make install! Ma il servizio? Non me lo attiva da solo? Se avete qualche hint per l'installazione DEL SERVIZIO... thanx! Beh io non uso piu' mdk dalla 7.2 ma dovrebbe esserci ancora il tool che permette di scegliere i servizi da avviare, senno' puoi farlo a mano creando i symlink nella dir del tuo runlevel di default. Comunque tutto questo non ti serve perche' e' altamente consigliabile avviare i due demoni di samba (smbd e nmbd) tramite il superserver inetd cosi' da poterne controllare gli accessi tramite host.allow e host.deny (tcp wrapper). Quindi l' unico servizio che devi avviare e' inetd e configurare poi quest' ultimo per avviare i due demoni di cui sopra. Io uso ancora il vecchio inetd che si configura semplicemente editando il file /etc/inetd.conf, ma nella tua distro credo che ci sia xinetd che e' un po' diverso. Dovrebbe esserci una dir /etc/xinetd con all' interno un file per ogni servizio nei quali devi mettere enabled per attivarlo. Mi spiace di non essere troppo preciso ma come ti ho detto non conosco mdk 8.x, comunque il solito man potra' senz' altro esserti d' aiuto. Ciao -- Sebastiano
Re: [newbie-it] kernel
P.S.: Occhio che nel kernel 2.4.8 della mdk hanno tolto il supporto per il supermount, quindi devi poi modificare l'/etc/fstab. Come mai? Era tanto comodo... :( Cu s%N! Ciaociao Byez ! L8r \\marco [www] http://members.xoom.it/verbal_666 ||| http://surf.to/verbal_666 [email] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ||| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ||| [EMAIL PROTECTED] [icq] 19758469 ] do you have an opinion ? ] a mind of your own ? ] i thought you were special. ] i thought you should know. ] but i've run out of patience, ] i couldn't care less. ] now i lay me down to sleep, ] pray the Lord my soul to keep, ] if i die before i wake, ] pray the Lord my soul to take. ] 10 hippopotamuses to change your mind. ] Dance! Even if you have nowhere to do it but in your own living room. ] oh my God, it's full of stars! - Original Message - From: Stefano Salari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] kernel --- Mark_AKA_VèrB@L [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Dove trovare versioni aggiornate del kernel mandrake? Son fermo alla 2.4.3-mdk! Se vuoi per forza il kernel mdk puoi scaricare i sorgenti dal sito Mandrake e ricompilarlo. C'e' il 2.4.8 che e' quello che monta la mdk 8.1. Altrimenti puoi scaricarti l'ultima versilne da www.kernel.org (credo che l'ultima sia la 2.4.16 o 2.4.17). Ciao! Steo. P.S.: Occhio che nel kernel 2.4.8 della mdk hanno tolto il supporto per il supermount, quindi devi poi modificare l'/etc/fstab. RiCiao! __ Iscriviti al Meglio della Settimana, la newsletter di Yahoo! Per saperne di più vai alla pagina: http://buongiorno.yahoo.it
Re: [newbie-it] Salve
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, Claudio Pedretti wrote: Ciao a tutti, ho appena installato Mandrake 8.2 sul mio note acer travelmate 212tx. Non funziona ne la scheda audio ne il modem!!Confesso che non so dadove cominciare,che faccio? Ciao grazie Claudio Ciao, per la scheda audio puoi provare entrare come root, dare il comando sndconfig e poi continuare seguendo le istruzioni. In linea di massima dovrai solo accettare le selezioni che troverai gia' scelte perche' dovrebbe essere stata riconosciuta. Una volta fatta l'installazione ancora non sentirai niente perche' tutti i volumi sono settati a 0. Lancia kmix e alza i volumi di tutto tranne che del microfono. Ricordati poi di settare i nuovi volumi come predefiniti nel primo menu' di kmix, altrimenti la prossima volta che ti colleghi saranno di nuovo tutti a 0. Per il modem dovresti essere tra i fortunati che hanno un lucent ltmodem ma non si puo' sapere se non lo scopri tu. Se mandi il risultato dei comandi lspci e poi di lspci -nn in un altro mail ti mando le eventuali istruzioni. A presto Luigi -- Not all who wander are lost (Tolkien) Luigi De Pascale: Indirizzo: Dipartimento di Matematica Applicata U.Dini Via Bonanno Pisano 25/B, 56126 Pisa, ITALY Tel.: +39/050/844745 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie-it] mount cdrom
Ciao a tutti. E' possibile montare il cdrom in modo che veda sia il file system iso9660 che l'udf contemporaneamente? Bye __ Iscriviti al Meglio della Settimana, la newsletter di Yahoo! Per saperne di più vai alla pagina: http://buongiorno.yahoo.it
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Re: [newbie-it] kernel
--- Mark_AKA_VèrB@L [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: P.S.: Occhio che nel kernel 2.4.8 della mdk hanno tolto il supporto per il supermount, quindi devi poi modificare l'/etc/fstab. Come mai? Era tanto comodo... :( Sembra che dopo una versione del kernel (che non so quale sia) desse dei problemi. Probabilmente bastera' aspettare la nuova versione del supermount. Ciao! Steo. __ Iscriviti al Meglio della Settimana, la newsletter di Yahoo! Per saperne di più vai alla pagina: http://buongiorno.yahoo.it
Re: [newbie-it] SAMBA
Hint trovato, se può servire: Note the valid users line above. Windows has a username and password scheme, which looks nothing at all like the Unix one. And unlike a certain round-heeled excuse for an operating system, Unix (Linux) is not about to let some stranger start messing around with its files without so much as a Hi, how are you? What do we do about that? The answer is, we set up a separate, parallel username and password system especially for smb. Before you can allow smb connections, you need to create this username database with the smbpasswd program, and set Windows-style passwords for the users you add to it. It's not that hard, actually: % smbpasswd -c # Create a new smbpasswd file -- ONE TIME ONLY! % smbpasswd -a hoser New SMB password: razzbat Retype new SMB password: razzbat Added user hoser. Password changed for user hoser. % Now the Windows user named HOSER can log on to your SMB share with the password RAZZBAT -- and in true Windows fashion, it doesn't care about uppercase vs lowercase letters. If you make this password the same as the one you use to start Windows, the Linux shares should be visible just like any other Windows share. If they aren't the same, Windows should prompt you when you try to connect and also offer to save the password for reuse. You only use the -c option to create the file -- once you have created the file, don't ever use the -c option again, or it will blow away your existing file and all the passwords you've added! To add a user once you have created the smbpasswd file, you will use smbpasswd -a username: % smbpasswd mamacita New SMB password: Retype new SMB password: Failed to find entry for user mamacita. Failed to change password entry for mamacita # D'oh! You have to ADD mamacita with -a ! % smbpasswd -a mamacita New SMB password: Retype new SMB password: Added user mamacita. Password changed for user mamacita. % To change the password for an existing user, just use smbpasswd username. If you have enabled the password synchronization script in your smb.conf file, changing the SMB password will also update that user's Linux password. Cu s%N! Ciaociao Byez ! L8r \\marco [www] http://members.xoom.it/verbal_666 ||| http://surf.to/verbal_666 [email] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ||| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ||| [EMAIL PROTECTED] [icq] 19758469 ] do you have an opinion ? ] a mind of your own ? ] i thought you were special. ] i thought you should know. ] but i've run out of patience, ] i couldn't care less. ] now i lay me down to sleep, ] pray the Lord my soul to keep, ] if i die before i wake, ] pray the Lord my soul to take. ] 10 hippopotamuses to change your mind. ] Dance! Even if you have nowhere to do it but in your own living room. ] oh my God, it's full of stars! - Original Message - From: Mark AKA VèrB@L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] SAMBA Allora, c'ho perso un pò di tempo... ma alla fine con piena soddisfazione ce l'ho fatta (quasi!) :) compilato il pacchetto Samba 3 in versione Alpha! installato e installato il suo 'tutore' XINETD, egregio deamon! Compilati i due file sotto /etc/xinetd.d/ per smdb e nmbd! che dire, gira tutto alla perfezione, persino lo SWAT (stesso procedimento sotto xinetd) ora però una domanda? qual'è l'utente che chiede al login di una dir condivisa? non dovrebbero essere quelle di sistema Linux? perchè con root non c'è verso di loggare nella dir? Cmq ottimo lavoro questo samba! Cu s%N! Ciaociao Byez ! L8r \\marco [www] http://members.xoom.it/verbal_666 ||| http://surf.to/verbal_666 [email] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ||| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ||| [EMAIL PROTECTED] [icq] 19758469 ] do you have an opinion ? ] a mind of your own ? ] i thought you were special. ] i thought you should know. ] but i've run out of patience, ] i couldn't care less. ] now i lay me down to sleep, ] pray the Lord my soul to keep, ] if i die before i wake, ] pray the Lord my soul to take. ] 10 hippopotamuses to change your mind. ] Dance! Even if you have nowhere to do it but in your own living room. ] oh my God, it's full of stars! - Original Message - From: Sebastiano Cordiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] SAMBA On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 19:03:03 +0100 Mark AKA VèrB@L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ho appena downloadato la v. 2.2.2 dal sito www.samba.org! C'è modo di farla girare sotto Mandrake 8.0? Ho provato di tutto... la compilazione RPM non va a buon fine! Allora al solito sono andato in sources e configure/make/make install! Ma il servizio? Non me lo attiva da solo? Se avete qualche hint per l'installazione DEL SERVIZIO... thanx! Beh io non uso piu' mdk dalla 7.2 ma dovrebbe esserci ancora il tool che permette di scegliere i servizi da avviare, senno' puoi farlo a mano creando i
Re: [newbie-it] Salve
Il giorno 16:03, lunedì 17 dicembre 2001 hai scritto: On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, Claudio Pedretti wrote: Ciao a tutti, ho appena installato Mandrake 8.2 sul mio note acer travelmate 212tx. Non funziona ne la scheda audio ne il modem!!Confesso che non so dadove cominciare,che faccio? Ciao grazie Claudio Ciao, prima di lanciare il sndconfig suggerito (giustamente) da Luigi, prova a fare queste operazioni: 1) disabilita il devfs, inserendo una stringa devfs=nomount nel file di configurazione del boot loader (cerca nell'archivio della mailing list, ci sono stati diversi post al riguardo). 2) disabilita la voce PnP OS Installed (o qualcosa di simile) nel BIOS. Questo potrebbe aiutare Linux a riconoscere e/o configurare correttamente la tua scheda quando lancerai sndconfig. Per il modem, prova a dare un'occhiata al sito www.linmodems.org per vedere se il tuo è supportato. I modem interni sono sempre una gran fregatura (anche se sui portatili sono l'unica soluzione). Daniele
[newbie-it]
Vorrei sapere il metodo previsto per la cancellazione dalla ml. GRAZIE!
Re: [newbie-it]
Il giorno 20:08, giovedì 27 dicembre 2001 hai scritto: Vorrei sapere il metodo previsto per la cancellazione dalla ml. GRAZIE! Sempre lo stesso di tutte le ml: torna sul sito da cui ti sei iscritto e cerca il link per eliminare la tua iscrizione. Oppure guarda tra gli headers di un qualunque messaggio della lista: troverai un indirizzo cui scrivere per disiscriverti. Prego. Daniele
[newbie] FTP help please
Hi All, Im running Mandrake 8.1 and im trying to get the FTP server up and running. Any help? Point me in the right direction? Please. Thank you! Eric
Re: [newbie] Vmware
Install both kernel-source and kernel-headers before compiling it. On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 03:28:17AM -0500, Marcia wrote: :Dear All, : :I have downloaded Vmware 2.0.4 plus the 2.0.4 prebuilt kernel modules however :I am having trouble getting it all installed in my Linux Mandrake 8.1. I :continue to get a message that I do not have the correct modules. How do I :get VMware 2.0.4 and the modules to install correctly? Any help will be :greatly appreciated. : :Sincerely, : :Marcia : :Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? :Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO issues with 2 hard drives.
Ivan Offalich wrote: I looked all over the Linux Documentation Project website for this information. I couldn't seem to find it anywhere so I was hoping someone could help me with it on this list. I'll explain my situation. I have two hard drives installed on my computer. hda is dedicated to Windoze. hdc is dedicated to Linux. When I install Linux (I've gone through the process a few times) it has me choose between LILO and GRUB. I have chosen LILO since I've read more about it than GRUB and I have a better understand of how it works. After installing and booting up, I get the choice of booting Linux-Secure, Linux, Linux Failsafe, or Windoze. Everything works fine like it should. When I installed I tried both the normal boot and also the nicer looking boot (the equivalent of vga=791 in the config. file), they both worked fine. The trouble comes afterwards. I edited my /etc/lilo.conf file, saved it, and then typed lilo into the shell. It returned a confirmation that the file was edited properly. When I restarted my computer the BIOS went through its normal checks and when it got to the OS Loading... part the screen starts filling with 01 00 01 00 01 00 01 00 01 etc. I understood that this meant my MBR was corrupted, so I did a fdisk /mbr from my DOS bootdisk. This allowed me to get into Windoze normally and I could of course get into Linux using my Linux bootdisk. I restored the /etc/lilo.conf file to its original condition and typed lilo once more. When I restarted my computer the next time I got the same 1s and 0s. Considering that I took much care into editing the /etc/lilo.conf file originally, this leads me to believe that it wasn't the result of a typo in the file. What it does lead me to believe is that the installation process writes to the MBR differently than LILO does from Linux. I'm not sure if that's the case though. It's also possible that I'm doing something wrong somehow that I don't realize. Is it possible that hda isn't being mounted properly before it's being written to? Does the fact that the drive is used for Windoze make a difference in this case? Is there something else I'm overlooking here? I'd appreciate any help that anyone can offer to fix this problem. I'd like to be able to boot into Linux without a floppy disk again and be able to use LILO properly. Ivan. Ivan, have you told lilo.conf, that it should boot windows from drive hda and linux from drive hdc ? Regards Kaj Haulrich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cannot get into system, how do I rescue Lilo?
Mick wrote: Hi folks, A dual boot system. I was trying repair an earlier problem, and of course made it even worse. Now Lilo will not boot up. It gets to LI and just sits there blinking. How do I re-install Lilo so as to access the system again. I have tried booting into the boot cd and typing 'rescue', I can then get to a prompt. After looking at an article about basic Unix commands I used 'ls' to see my directories. Whoopee, I can see then 'til I'm blue in the face. I swear I am going to take a course in basic Linux commands after I get through this! I did also try to reinstall the whole kit and kiboodle, but each time I try, it gets as far as installing packages and then just quits, with two minutes to go! The activity lights on the cdrom drive and HD just die. I've tried waiting for ages! Nothing! I tried using the Plextor burner as a boot device and to load the OS from but with the same result. Here are some tech details that may help. Any help will be gratefully appreciated, as I'm kinda' dead in the water here. (Posting from the wifes machine here, sshhh...) Mick AMD Athlon 1Ghz 512 ram Plextor CD Burner 52X ATAPI CDROM Floppy NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 M64 LM 8.1 Well Mick, as far as I can see, you are almost back at point zero ? You have windows on the box ? - If I were in your place I'd start all over again : 1. Boot into windows (You have a rescue-floppy for that, eh ?) 2. When windows comes up, go to a MS-DOS prompt 3. Issue the command : FDISK /MBR 4. Issue the command :exit 5. Reboot (this time windows will reappear by itself, without assistance from lilo) 6. Again, go to a MS-DOS prompt and run FDISK 7. Be VERY careful now : delete every partition exept Windows-partitions (FAT, FAT32, NTFS etc.) 8. Re-install linux (do not update) and remember to create a linux-boot-floppy. With your up-to-date hardware, a clean install of linux should be a matter of about 20 minutes ! Regards Kaj Haulrich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FTP help please
install proftpd-xxx, the default setting should work well with either inetd or standalone mode. Good luck! /Jun On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 03:59:59AM -0500, Eric Budinger wrote: :Hi All, : : Im running Mandrake 8.1 and im trying to get the FTP server up and :running. Any help? Point me in the right direction? Please. Thank you! : :Eric : : Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] FTP help please
Ok.. I installed it.. what next? Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jun Liu Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] FTP help please install proftpd-xxx, the default setting should work well with either inetd or standalone mode. Good luck! /Jun On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 03:59:59AM -0500, Eric Budinger wrote: :Hi All, : : Im running Mandrake 8.1 and im trying to get the FTP server up and :running. Any help? Point me in the right direction? Please. Thank you! : :Eric : : _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] FTP help please
Ok. I can log in as anonymous but nothing else.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jun Liu Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] FTP help please install proftpd-xxx, the default setting should work well with either inetd or standalone mode. Good luck! /Jun On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 03:59:59AM -0500, Eric Budinger wrote: :Hi All, : : Im running Mandrake 8.1 and im trying to get the FTP server up and :running. Any help? Point me in the right direction? Please. Thank you! : :Eric : : _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Problem with bastille and samba
Hi all I've used the tiny firewall configuration tool within the control centre to configure bastille and it's v v v nicely setup according to http://grc.com however, it stops my samba shares from working!? How can I use this setup but modify the conf file slightly to allow samba shares to work on my local network. Please I don't want to use yet another firewall piece of software/setup... This is find apart from this one aspect. Any info on this would be much appreciated and rewarded with lots of liquid refreshment!!! Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO issues with 2 hard drives.
IO I looked all over the Linux Documentation Project website for this IO information. I couldn't seem to find it anywhere so I was hoping someone IO could help me with it on this list. IO I'll explain my situation. IO I have two hard drives installed on my computer. IO hda is dedicated to Windoze. IO hdc is dedicated to Linux. IO When I install Linux (I've gone through the process a few times) it has me IO choose between LILO and GRUB. I have chosen LILO since I've read more about IO it than GRUB and I have a better understand of how it works. IO After installing and booting up, I get the choice of booting Linux-Secure, IO Linux, Linux Failsafe, or Windoze. Everything works fine like it should. IO When I installed I tried both the normal boot and also the nicer looking IO boot (the equivalent of vga=791 in the config. file), they both worked fine. IO The trouble comes afterwards. IO I edited my /etc/lilo.conf file, saved it, and then typed lilo into the IO shell. IO It returned a confirmation that the file was edited properly. IO When I restarted my computer the BIOS went through its normal checks and IO when it got to the OS Loading... part the screen starts filling with 01 IO 00 01 00 01 00 01 00 01 etc. Either a geometry mismatch or a 0x80 0x81 stuff trouble. IO I understood that this meant my MBR was corrupted, so I did a fdisk /mbr IO from my DOS bootdisk. This allowed me to get into Windoze normally and I IO could of course get into Linux using my Linux bootdisk. I restored the IO /etc/lilo.conf file to its original condition and typed lilo once more. IO When I restarted my computer the next time I got the same 1s and 0s. Nope this does not happen when mbr is corrupted. It is an error message of lilo actually. Until here I can say that there is a geometry mismatch or a bios hard disk boot priority problem. IO Considering that I took much care into editing the /etc/lilo.conf file IO originally, this leads me to believe that it wasn't the result of a typo in IO the file. Dont think so IO What it does lead me to believe is that the installation process writes to IO the MBR differently than LILO does from Linux. No they dont. But meanwhile something might have changed, that should be defined in lilo.conf IO I'm not sure if that's the IO case though. It's also possible that I'm doing something wrong somehow that IO I don't realize. Most probably. But sometimes some stuff needs to deep info. IO Is it possible that hda isn't being mounted properly IO before it's being written to? No need to mount it. Lilo deals with physichal sectors. IO Does the fact that the drive is used for IO Windoze make a difference in this case? Is there something else I'm IO overlooking here? IO I'd appreciate any help that anyone can offer to fix this problem. I'd like IO to be able to boot into Linux without a floppy disk again and be able to IO use LILO properly. IO Ivan. I can help you, I had gone too much deep into lilo. Here we have - Geometry mismatch. There may be some trouble with lilo, when it is trying to define your hard drives geometry. I dont know your lilo / MDK version, but with assumptions, there must be a lba32 line in your /etc/lilo.conf, so lilo will be able to access your disk that is larger than 8GB. - 0x80 0x81 stuff I said. This is deep. I had written a long mail once for this, in this list, but could not somehow find it in the archives. The thing is, When you boot your system, bios gives names to your devices. IDE devices (hard disks, cdroms etc) are given names 0x80, 0x81, etc. 80 is hda, 81 hdb (if exists). Unfortunately, MS products always assume they are 0x80. When a device is booted, bios assigns it a 0x80, does not matter if it is hda or hdc, so this confuses logic, this confuses lilo. What may affect you, did you chage your boot sequence from your bios? Did you have a previously installed cdrom at hdb, then removed (or vice versa) ? These are what I can think of now. If you give me more info, (how is your boot sequence defined in your bios, what are your hd~ devices, and their sizes, /etc/lilo.conf) I can help you about this. Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PCMCIA Card Question
Are you sure it has not already been autodetected. With my 3com PCMCIA card in my laptop Control Centre does not list my driver either, but yet the card still works. Running the Configure wizard does the same as in your case. It offers me a list which does not include the driver I know it needs. If I try to select one of the other 3com drivers, they will not load. If I look at the adapter section in netconf, once again it shows no driver loaded. The drop down list does not even offer the driver I know I need. Yet the card works perfectly. However if I look at the hardware section in Control Centre (HardDrake) I can see my Network Card, with the correct driver listed. Personally I find netconf a much better way if setting up my LAN connection than Control Centre (ConfigurationNetworkingNetconf) derek On Monday 17 December 2001 00:12, you wrote: Hello list, I'm attempting to install Linux for the first time ever. I'm installing Mandrake 8.1 on a Dell C600 laptop. The problem I'm currently running into concerns my PCMCIA Card. I have a Linksys PCMPC100 ethernet card. I'm using the Gnome desktop and when I go into Mandrake control center and attempt to configure my network card, it detects the card and then presents me with a list of drivers, asking which Net Driver to use. I've checked several websites and have found that I should use axnet_cs as the driver. Unfortunately, that driver is not listed in the table the command center is presenting to me. I'm sure there is a way to do this using the command line, but I'm ignorant of how. If there is a HowTo or other online documentation that someone could point me toward that would be great as well, but I have been unable to find the right one on my own. Mark Pearson. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problem with bastille and samba
How about this http://www.mandrakeforum.org/article.php?sid=1467mode=threadorder=0thold=0 You can edit the firewall setup tables and configure it as you please. Derek BTW: Samba needs ports 138 and 139 open if I remember correctly. On Monday 17 December 2001 11:07, Neil R Porter wrote: Hi all I've used the tiny firewall configuration tool within the control centre to configure bastille and it's v v v nicely setup according to http://grc.com however, it stops my samba shares from working!? How can I use this setup but modify the conf file slightly to allow samba shares to work on my local network. Please I don't want to use yet another firewall piece of software/setup... This is find apart from this one aspect. Any info on this would be much appreciated and rewarded with lots of liquid refreshment!!! Neil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Cannot get into system, how do I rescue Lilo?
can't you just boot from the CD, when it comes up, type rescue once that is done, type chroot /mnt and you have simulated your system.. then you should just be able to type lilo (or edit /etc/lilo.conf and then type lilo) to update your lilo and write it to your mbr.. has worked for me in the past, but its not that easy if you are running other then 8.1 rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kaj Haulrich Sent: Monday, 17 December 2001 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Cannot get into system, how do I rescue Lilo? Mick wrote: Hi folks, A dual boot system. I was trying repair an earlier problem, and of course made it even worse. Now Lilo will not boot up. It gets to LI and just sits there blinking. How do I re-install Lilo so as to access the system again. I have tried booting into the boot cd and typing 'rescue', I can then get to a prompt. After looking at an article about basic Unix commands I used 'ls' to see my directories. Whoopee, I can see then 'til I'm blue in the face. I swear I am going to take a course in basic Linux commands after I get through this! I did also try to reinstall the whole kit and kiboodle, but each time I try, it gets as far as installing packages and then just quits, with two minutes to go! The activity lights on the cdrom drive and HD just die. I've tried waiting for ages! Nothing! I tried using the Plextor burner as a boot device and to load the OS from but with the same result. Here are some tech details that may help. Any help will be gratefully appreciated, as I'm kinda' dead in the water here. (Posting from the wifes machine here, sshhh...) Mick AMD Athlon 1Ghz 512 ram Plextor CD Burner 52X ATAPI CDROM Floppy NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 M64 LM 8.1 Well Mick, as far as I can see, you are almost back at point zero ? You have windows on the box ? - If I were in your place I'd start all over again : 1. Boot into windows (You have a rescue-floppy for that, eh ?) 2. When windows comes up, go to a MS-DOS prompt 3. Issue the command : FDISK /MBR 4. Issue the command :exit 5. Reboot (this time windows will reappear by itself, without assistance from lilo) 6. Again, go to a MS-DOS prompt and run FDISK 7. Be VERY careful now : delete every partition exept Windows-partitions (FAT, FAT32, NTFS etc.) 8. Re-install linux (do not update) and remember to create a linux-boot-floppy. With your up-to-date hardware, a clean install of linux should be a matter of about 20 minutes ! Regards Kaj Haulrich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FTP help please
it's up and running, configure it as you want. On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 04:21:18AM -0500, Eric Budinger wrote: :Ok. I can log in as anonymous but nothing else.. : :-Original Message- :From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jun Liu :Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:14 AM :To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :Subject: Re: [newbie] FTP help please : :install proftpd-xxx, the default setting should work well with :either inetd or standalone mode. : :Good luck! :/Jun :On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 03:59:59AM -0500, Eric Budinger wrote: ::Hi All, :: :: Im running Mandrake 8.1 and im trying to get the FTP server up and ::running. Any help? Point me in the right direction? Please. Thank you! :: ::Eric :: :: : : : :_ :Do You Yahoo!? :Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com : : :Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? :Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slow image activation
post the output of your dmseg file, do you have ypbind running? do you have a local network? is this box the dhcp server or a client? On Sunday 16 December 2001 23:20, you wrote: Thanks for the responses to this. I don't think that there are any extra servers running. One thing that may be related is that if I run linuxconf and quit, it complains that squid isn't running and will start it if I let it do so. Could this be implicated? I notice that during the shutdown, I get error messages telling me it failed to be stopped, presumably because it wasn't running, so it seems that something expects it to be started. Hosts files shouldn't be an issue as I am using DHCP and therefore don't have any addresses there other than that of the server. thanks again for the input! Brian On Friday 14 December 2001 10:10 pm, you wrote: have you both considered turning off all the servers possible ? this sounds to me like a dns , routed or ypbind server running (that you don't need, and is not correctly configured. are you trying to run a local DNS server? (as oppsosed to a local cacheing name server) do you have ypbind running (but don't have yellow pages needed?). Are all the local network computers hosts file correct? what about the IP numbers for the DNS servers? do you have it set to need DNS all the time? are you running reiserFS on the dedicated server, which offers some NFS exports (not a good Idea) my bet is on the DNS. I always thought a novell server would use ipx/spx, not tcp/ip? On Thursday 13 December 2001 23:19, you wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:40:46 +1100 Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] frantically pecked out this message: I have a total of 4 Linux machines (OK, some of them dual boot, but let's not talk about that) on a home/office LAN. One of them is a dedicated server, which offers some NFS exports. Everything works very nicely, except that programs take forever to load the first time. Just to fire up a konsole can take 10 seconds plus - this on a machine rated at 2800 bogomips with lots of memory. After things have been up for a while (don't know how long, but many minutes at least), everything is quick again. Haven't tested exhaustively, but it seems that with the LAN unplugged, none of this applies. This is a network issue if I've ever heard one. There is something not right with the network. I have a feeling it's got something to do with authentication somewhere on that LAN. Or, (the last time I saw this one of the machines responsible was a windows box - the novell client went south and killed the TCP/IP stack.) In that case when the TCP stack became corrupt it really dirtied the TCP communications on the network between that machine and the servers. While it didn't affect the overall performance of the network itself, it affected profoundly the machine that was having the trouble. In that case the offending client was uninstalled, as well as the TCP/IP stack which was then reinstalled, along with a newer, upgraded version of the Novell client. Problem happily solved. I'm presently having some similar problems on my home LAN when it comes to FTPing from a client machine to the FTP server here on my Mandrake box. Outside my network FTP server response is very quick, but locally on the LAN from time to time connecting and resolving that connection in order to do any transfers can take a few minutes. hope this helps at least shed some light. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Sound trouble, again, plus joystick
I've got a Soundblaster Live card, plus an integrated i810 sound chip. I'm using the SB exclusively - I don't want to have anything to do with the latter. The sound configuration on my system, which never worked adequately to start with ( =midi nonfunctional), has gone from bad to worse. One day when I started up the system, Linux decided suddenly to detect the i810 to which it had until then paid no attention. Now the situation is that whenever I start up the system I have to run sndconfig to get _any_ sound at all out. The configure functionality in HardDrake can't do anything at all about it: when it tries to play an 8 bit sample with the i810, I get 'sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Permission denied' (and no sound), and when it tries the same thing for SBLive, I get no errors, nor sound. Now, I'm absolutely losing patience with this PoS. Could someone advice me how to get things in working order? It would be absolutely wonderful to get instructions on how to remove _everything_ related to sound and then reinstall the drivers/whatevers _correctly_ from scratch. Also, I can't figure out how to get my joystick detected. It's an old-fashioned non-USB affair (a Gravis with a rudder wheel), and I have two joy ports to spare, one in the motherboard, one in the SB card. +Cinquo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slow image activation
Now you're just trying to make me look greener right? :-) Where would I find a dmseg file? ...is this on the server, the client, or both? ypbind is not running. My network is of the 192.168.0.1 variety with a shared ppp dialup. The slowess occurs on the clients, although of course that could be a result of the server being slow to get things happening. Right now, with the server having been up all day and squid running on it, a fresh boot of a client works like a charm. So either starting squid has made a difference, or something on the server eventually stops getting in the way. Brian On Monday 17 December 2001 11:00 pm, you wrote: post the output of your dmseg file, do you have ypbind running? do you have a local network? is this box the dhcp server or a client? On Sunday 16 December 2001 23:20, you wrote: Thanks for the responses to this. I don't think that there are any extra servers running. One thing that may be related is that if I run linuxconf and quit, it complains that squid isn't running and will start it if I let it do so. Could this be implicated? I notice that during the shutdown, I get error messages telling me it failed to be stopped, presumably because it wasn't running, so it seems that something expects it to be started. Hosts files shouldn't be an issue as I am using DHCP and therefore don't have any addresses there other than that of the server. thanks again for the input! Brian On Friday 14 December 2001 10:10 pm, you wrote: have you both considered turning off all the servers possible ? this sounds to me like a dns , routed or ypbind server running (that you don't need, and is not correctly configured. are you trying to run a local DNS server? (as oppsosed to a local cacheing name server) do you have ypbind running (but don't have yellow pages needed?). Are all the local network computers hosts file correct? what about the IP numbers for the DNS servers? do you have it set to need DNS all the time? are you running reiserFS on the dedicated server, which offers some NFS exports (not a good Idea) my bet is on the DNS. I always thought a novell server would use ipx/spx, not tcp/ip? On Thursday 13 December 2001 23:19, you wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:40:46 +1100 Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] frantically pecked out this message: I have a total of 4 Linux machines (OK, some of them dual boot, but let's not talk about that) on a home/office LAN. One of them is a dedicated server, which offers some NFS exports. Everything works very nicely, except that programs take forever to load the first time. Just to fire up a konsole can take 10 seconds plus - this on a machine rated at 2800 bogomips with lots of memory. After things have been up for a while (don't know how long, but many minutes at least), everything is quick again. Haven't tested exhaustively, but it seems that with the LAN unplugged, none of this applies. This is a network issue if I've ever heard one. There is something not right with the network. I have a feeling it's got something to do with authentication somewhere on that LAN. Or, (the last time I saw this one of the machines responsible was a windows box - the novell client went south and killed the TCP/IP stack.) In that case when the TCP stack became corrupt it really dirtied the TCP communications on the network between that machine and the servers. While it didn't affect the overall performance of the network itself, it affected profoundly the machine that was having the trouble. In that case the offending client was uninstalled, as well as the TCP/IP stack which was then reinstalled, along with a newer, upgraded version of the Novell client. Problem happily solved. I'm presently having some similar problems on my home LAN when it comes to FTPing from a client machine to the FTP server here on my Mandrake box. Outside my network FTP server response is very quick, but locally on the LAN from time to time connecting and resolving that connection in order to do any transfers can take a few minutes. hope this helps at least shed some light. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake come from RedHat?
Some one say that Mandrake create from RedHat. This meant that Mandrake very depent on original RedHat. Is this true? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake come from RedHat?
Someone say that Mandrake create from RedHat. This meant that Mandrake very depent on original RedHat. Is this true? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FTP help please
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:57:25 +0100 Jun Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: it's up and running, configure it as you want. On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 04:21:18AM -0500, Eric Budinger wrote: Eric, What you do next depends upon what you want to do with it. If you're thinking of offering it as a private FTP server for folks you're expecting to stop by and grab files then the setup will be somewhat different then if you're setting it up to run 24/7 for just anyone who either finds it or knows it's there and stops by for a look around at what you've got available. One thing I will mention here is that Proftpd is somewhat more permissions sensitive then wu-ftpd, so be mindful of how you set it up. there is some very good documentation at the Proftpd site that will help you get going and get it configured to suit your needs as well as some good example config files both there and on your system from the install. check here -- /usr/share/doc/proftpd-1.2.2 on your system for documentation that will shed quite a bit of light on what makes this app tick. very informative. If you've still got questions then let'em fly here and we'll take them one at a time. I've got some experience with Proftpd and it's been running on my system for a few months now as well as on a server I setup at work. I'm very pleased with it's performance. -- daRcmaTTeR Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 7:05am up 22:46, 2 users, load average: 0.19, 0.18, 0.15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problem with bastille and samba
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:07:33 - Neil R Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: Hi all I've used the tiny firewall configuration tool within the control centre to configure bastille and it's v v v nicely setup according to http://grc.com however, it stops my samba shares from working!? How can I use this setup but modify the conf file slightly to allow samba shares to work on my local network. Please I don't want to use yet another firewall piece of software/setup... This is find apart from this one aspect. Any info on this would be much appreciated and rewarded with lots of liquid refreshment!!! Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Neil, In your Bastille-firewall.cfg file, does your TRUSTED_IFACES line read this way? TRUSTED_IFACES=lo eth0 ppp0 if it doesn't, then it should for Bastille to allow traffic like Samba to operate correctly. If you have to make those changes and let us know how it goes. -- daRcmaTTeR Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 7:05am up 22:46, 2 users, load average: 0.19, 0.18, 0.15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake come from RedHat?
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 19:44:56 +0700 Wendy Nexcom [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: Someone say that Mandrake create from RedHat. This meant that Mandrake very depent on original RedHat. Is this true? long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away Mandrake was once loosely based on the RedHat distro...it is no longer the case. Mandrake is clearly Mandrake. -- daRcmaTTeR Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 8:05am up 23:46, 2 users, load average: 0.38, 0.48, 0.41 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake come from RedHat?
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:06:00 -0500 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away Mandrake was once loosely based on the RedHat distro...it is no longer the case. Mandrake is clearly Mandrake.-- daRcmaTTeR I think at one time Mandrake was more than loosely based on RH. Back in the 5.x days, I believe it was virtually RH w/ a slicker install and KDE 1.x as a default desktop. You are quite correct that it is now a fully independent (with some similarities, and still rpm based) distro all it's own. Mike -- The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What does woman want?' -- Sigmund Freud _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Problem with bastille and samba
Perfect! According to grc I am now very secure (for a 'windows' machine this is very rare, according to his site hehe). However, in order to get it to work I had to also define the PUBLIC services to allow 138 and 139 ports. Strange, although as I say, grc says it's in stealth mode (139 that is) so I guess it's fine, and it didn't work without it so... It said in the comments within bastille-firewall.cfg to also include it in PUBLIC so I guess it's ok. TCP_PUBLIC_SERVICES=138 139 TCP_INTERNAL_SERVICES=138 139 Derek you're a gent, cheers. Neil -Original Message- From: Derek Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 December 2001 11:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Linux Newbie List Subject: Re: [newbie] Problem with bastille and samba How about this http://www.mandrakeforum.org/article.php?sid=1467mode=thread; order=0thold=0 You can edit the firewall setup tables and configure it as you please. Derek BTW: Samba needs ports 138 and 139 open if I remember correctly. On Monday 17 December 2001 11:07, Neil R Porter wrote: Hi all I've used the tiny firewall configuration tool within the control centre to configure bastille and it's v v v nicely setup according to http://grc.com however, it stops my samba shares from working!? How can I use this setup but modify the conf file slightly to allow samba shares to work on my local network. Please I don't want to use yet another firewall piece of software/setup... This is find apart from this one aspect. Any info on this would be much appreciated and rewarded with lots of liquid refreshment!!! Neil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Automating backups
There is always a danger that having access to a bunch of bright people on a list like this could make me lazy. As I'm already lazy, I'm going to ignore that hazard and ask for advice on setting up automated backups. I would like to set up a daily disk to disk backup and dump snapshots onto CD periodically. I'm not interested in automating the CD bit, but having a daily incremental look after itself would be good. Now I know I can use cron to schedule this and tar or a number of other utilities to create the backup files, but it would be nice to wrap this in a script that handled file naming and selection according to date and all that good stuff. I looked at: http://www-jerry.oit.duke.edu/linux/bluedevil/HOWTO/backups_howto.html and http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html and that gives me all I need to do it manually, but getting automated means not forgetting to do it! Any great shell scripts out there that you're willing to share, or other ways and means I haven't considered? cheers Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] PPC Clones
Anyone know if I can install mandrake on an old PowerComputing PowerCentre 180 (clone)? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: [Newbie] LILO issues with 2 hard drives.
Since this will be a long post I snipped everything previous. I will post my IDE chain and my /etc/lilo.conf file and hopefully that will help everyone with determining what exactly I'm what I'm missing. ;) Primary IDE Master: 6.4 GIG EIDE Harddrive (aka hda) 3 partitions C:, E:, and F: in Windoze Primary IDE Slave: Iomega Zip 100 MB (I keep a disk in there due to the fact that certain times there's one expected, this alleviates confusion.) This shows up as D: in Windoze. Secondary IDE Master: 20.0 GIG EIDE Harddrive (aka hdc) 4 Partitions / (aka hdc1) Swap (aka hdc5) /usr (aka hdc6) /home (aka hdc7) Secondary IDE Slave: Plexwriter CD-RW Drive G: in Windoze My motherboard/BIOS does not support CD-ROM booting. AFAIK, hda is the primary boot device. I will double check my BIOS after sending this, but I believe that my BIOS doesn't have a method of adding the second harddrive (hdc) to the boot chain, only the floppy drive or the Primary IDE Master. Below is my /etc/lilo.conf file. One note about it, when I installed Linux, I setup a password with LILO. Now that I think about it, it never asked me for the password upon boot. I've added #comments below, these comments are not actually part of the file, I added them for this post. /etc/lilo.conf # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line too. password=** # I'm not telling. ;) boot=/dev/hda# If I understand correctly this should be telling LILO to boot off hda map=/boot/map# If I understand correctly this is where LILO stores the info on where each OS is and how to boot it install=/boot/boot.b # I'm not sure I understand this line vga=791 # So it looks nicer when it boots default=linux # This is the default OS for my LILO configuration, it will boot the image labeled as linux keytable=/boot/us.klt # This loads my keyboard configuration lba32 # This helps LILO (or is it Linux) work with my BIOS to see my hard drives correctly prompt # This allows me to choose which OS to load when I start my computer timeout=50 # If I don't choose, LILO loads the default after 5 seconds message=/boot/message # LILO displays the text of this file upon starting menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw # I don't understand this line either, but I believe this defines the look of the LILO prompt # The last section defines the bootable OSes, defines their location, and gives each one a name image=/boot/vmlinuz-secure label=linux root=/dev/hdc1 append= mem=128M hdd=ide-scsi hdb=ide=floppy vga=788 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux-up root=/dev/hdc1 append= mem=128M hdd=ide-scsi hdb=ide-floppy read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hdc1 append= mem=128M hdd=ide-scsi hdb=ide-floppy failsafe read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda That should do it. I appreciate everyone helping me sort this out. Ivan. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crazy Mouse
I thought this may be an issue with Intellimouse Optical Mice (Mouses?), but you mentioned that it happened with your Logitech mouse also. I own an Intellimouse Explorer which also uses an optical eye. I've seen it display the same behaviors that you've mentioned (including the one on the Linux-Mandrake installation screen.) Basically how I'd describe it is that it looks like someone slides the mouse across the desk as fast as possible, somehow pressing the right mouse button once for ever 5 pixels moved. Sometimes the mouse works after that, sometimes the mouse doesn't work at all after that, sometimes the whole system hangs. Mine also likes to shoot to the lower left corner of the desktop a lot. Ok, this was of no help to me but may help you. Assuming you are using Xfree4.x, look in /etc/x11/xfreeconfig-4 under the mouse area. It is either called PS/2, IMPS/2 (Intellimouse?), ExplorerPS/2 (Intellimouse Explorer?), or Auto. Mine is screwy as IMPS/2 but doesn't work at all on the others. Therefore, and since I've stripped my system to just video/mouse/keyboard and it still does this tells me to investigate my bios settings (or an update to the bios) or perhaps a motherboard driver update (are there such things?). Also this didn't help me but it is specific to your mouse so it might be just what you need. Unfortunately I lost the messages, but you can search google groups (from google.com) in the newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandrake for the subject MS Intellimouse Explorer which told of a couple of specific lines to change/add in XF86Config-4 for this mouse. And I _believe_ it referenced a web site dealing with it. The procedure didn't work for me (not exactly the same mouse, it is one version older and at least one model down on the ladder) but hopefully it can help you. I have some good news and some bad news about this though. The good news for us Linux fans is that it's not a Linux or X-Windows problem. I've seen my mouse display this behavior far worse on Windoze 95 and Windoze 98 SE. Strange. With me both mouse and keyboard perform flawlessly in Win98(se?). But of course that's like getting a beautiful date for the prom... ...who happens to be your sister. GRIN The bad news is that I haven't completely determined what causes this problem. It doesn't happen very often, but it's very annoying when it does. Is constant in Mandrake Linux for me. [My apologies to M$ haters for mentioning M$ and their products so much in this post. It pains me to do so. I received my M$ mice as gifts and ended up using them for that reason.] Hey, I guess I am among the M$ operating system haters (well, dislikers), but I really like my MS Intellimouse Optical and MS Internet Keyboard, which I got as a package deal on sale at Sam's Club, and it even gets an additional $10 rebate. Computer Shopper rated this mouse well when it came out ( was $54.95!). They just said that the newest Intellimouse (optical, cordless, etc.) was the best mouse out there bar none. BTW, I used to like their Flight Simulator about nine years ago! 1. At first I thought it was possible that my mouse pad was confusing the optical sensor. Yes I know how silly that sounds, but you have to realize that this is a M$ product. ;) I changed mousepads. The mouse still acted up and I determined that my mousepad was not the culprit. I read that glass or really shiny white paper could cause problems. Mine works on about anything including my palm and pants leg. Also, I noticed it works about 1/4 inch off of the surface as well. Neat I suppose. Just wish I could turn off the taillight on it but I am becomming used to it. 2. I then considered that my Intellimouse Explorer was the culprit. I thought maybe I had received a faulty one or that a wire inside was broken. Plugging my old Intellimouse (and updating the settings), I found that the old Intellimouse (the kind with a ball and wheel) displayed the same behavior. I returned to using the optical one. This lead me to believe that my optical mouse was no more glitchy than my non-optical mouse. I went through the same steps, only my replacement IS my intellimouse. And I think I'll be keeping it if I can straighten things out. It's nice to have five buttons, one wheel, and no ball. I think the extra buttons on the side might be mappable. I definately read that I can map other functions to the 10 extra keys on the MS Internet keyboard in Mandrake Linux. 3. I considered that my PS/2 mouse port had issues. I was using Windoze 95 at the time. I reformatted my hard drive and installed Windoze 98 SE (which I also received as a gift). Windoze 95 did not have USB support. I plugged my optical mouse into the USB port and set it up properly. After a period of time, I found that the mouse displayed the same erratic behavior on
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Mandrake come from RedHat?
Julian, I can't help you with the boot manager problem, but I do recommend you use exper mode if you install Mandrake again. Initially, I worried about whether I was expert enough to use it, but it really gives you a lot of flexibility that is not present in the other modes. One example is control over your partitioning -- some of the other install modes will overwrite your existing partitions with no warning -- in expert you can avoid that, and it seemed fairly self explanatory *to me*. (You can also abort the installation before making any partition changes -- just don't do the last step on the partitioning dialog (labeled done??), or say no to any prompts which say anything like the partition table will now be saved to disk, and, if you have to, reboot or shut your machine off.) hope this helps, Randy Kramer Julian Opificius wrote: Just to offer a contrasting and virtually worthless opinion here ... I'm not sure about the slicker install or souped up. I lost Windows installs on two of my machines (Win98 and Win2000) because Mandrake 8.1's installer trashed my partition tables without giving me a way out, so I went back to Red Hat 7.2 and had a much better install experience. I use System Commander 7 as a boot manager, but Mandrake's installer wouldn't support writing the boot code on the Linux boot partition for another boot manager to pick up, it absolutely insisted on writing it's boot block to the MBR, which is not polite, and more to the point, is not compatible with System Commander. I'll try Mandrake again this week, because many people have a very high opinion (I'm still subscribed to this list, obviously). If someone does know how to instruct Mandrake's installer to put it's boot block on /boot (folks seem to call this a superblock, apparently), please tell me - I'd really like to give Mandrake a run - but please don't tell me to trash System Commander: I've paid for it, I like it, and it's friendly to my family users, who don't want to have to learn anything else :-) Thanks all ! Julian == At 09:21 AM 12/17/01 -0600, you wrote: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake come from RedHat? Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:20:17 -0600 From: David McGlone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] being an X-red hat user, I think Mandrake still runs and feels like Red Hat. It still handles like RH, it still uses a lot of files RH does and the convention RH does. to me it's clearly a souped up RH version with a different name. David M. On Monday 17 December 2001 07:02 am, you wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:06:00 -0500 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away Mandrake was once loosely based on the RedHat distro...it is no longer the case. Mandrake is clearly Mandrake.-- daRcmaTTeR I think at one time Mandrake was more than loosely based on RH. Back in the 5.x days, I believe it was virtually RH w/ a slicker install and KDE 1.x as a default desktop. You are quite correct that it is now a fully independent (with some similarities, and still rpm based) distro all it's own. Mike Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Mandrake come from RedHat?
Will do Randy, thanks. I don't remember if I was in Expert when I did the install - though I'm not an expert, I'm certainly gutsy enough to have done so ;- One thing I distinctly remember is that there was no FUNCTIONAL Cancel button on most of the dialogs, which I saw as sloppiness, and it put me off trying again. julian. = At 12:06 PM 12/17/01 -0500, you wrote: Julian, I can't help you with the boot manager problem, but I do recommend you use exper mode if you install Mandrake again. Initially, I worried about whether I was expert enough to use it, but it really gives you a lot of flexibility that is not present in the other modes. One example is control over your partitioning -- some of the other install modes will overwrite your existing partitions with no warning -- in expert you can avoid that, and it seemed fairly self explanatory *to me*. (You can also abort the installation before making any partition changes -- just don't do the last step on the partitioning dialog (labeled done??), or say no to any prompts which say anything like the partition table will now be saved to disk, and, if you have to, reboot or shut your machine off.) hope this helps, Randy Kramer Julian Opificius wrote: Just to offer a contrasting and virtually worthless opinion here ... I'm not sure about the slicker install or souped up. I lost Windows installs on two of my machines (Win98 and Win2000) because Mandrake 8.1's installer trashed my partition tables without giving me a way out, so I went back to Red Hat 7.2 and had a much better install experience. I use System Commander 7 as a boot manager, but Mandrake's installer wouldn't support writing the boot code on the Linux boot partition for another boot manager to pick up, it absolutely insisted on writing it's boot block to the MBR, which is not polite, and more to the point, is not compatible with System Commander. I'll try Mandrake again this week, because many people have a very high opinion (I'm still subscribed to this list, obviously). If someone does know how to instruct Mandrake's installer to put it's boot block on /boot (folks seem to call this a superblock, apparently), please tell me - I'd really like to give Mandrake a run - but please don't tell me to trash System Commander: I've paid for it, I like it, and it's friendly to my family users, who don't want to have to learn anything else :-) Thanks all ! Julian == At 09:21 AM 12/17/01 -0600, you wrote: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake come from RedHat? Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:20:17 -0600 From: David McGlone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] being an X-red hat user, I think Mandrake still runs and feels like Red Hat. It still handles like RH, it still uses a lot of files RH does and the convention RH does. to me it's clearly a souped up RH version with a different name. David M. On Monday 17 December 2001 07:02 am, you wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:06:00 -0500 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away Mandrake was once loosely based on the RedHat distro...it is no longer the case. Mandrake is clearly Mandrake.-- daRcmaTTeR I think at one time Mandrake was more than loosely based on RH. Back in the 5.x days, I believe it was virtually RH w/ a slicker install and KDE 1.x as a default desktop. You are quite correct that it is now a fully independent (with some similarities, and still rpm based) distro all it's own. Mike Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall On Monday 17 December 2001 13:11, you wrote: Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] system rescue disk/s
I would like to create a rescue disk that can give me a very similar interface, Lilo wise, to my current system as well as all the other necessary files on a system disk. I am thinking from a Windows background where having a rescue disk was 9.9 times out of 10 needed. Is the same needed under Linux but for less usage? If such a rescue disk is needed for those odd occasions it might be needed how do I create one on a 1.44 Mb stiffy? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] I have HAD IT!!!!!
When is this damn useless compiler going to work? I have Mdk 8.1 and the default compiler is useless, 2.96 is a piece of trash, so I took it off and put on gcc3, again TRASH, so I try to put on 2.95 and all it can give me is the same bullshit over and over WHEN IS THIS STUPID ASS THING going to WORK?? I am very coselgjyuh to going back to readhat. fuc, the typos i'm pissed off [root@kittypuss gcc295]# ls gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i386.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz.part gcc-2.96-0.62mdk.i586.rpm glibc-2.1.3-18.1mdk.i586.rpm gcc-cpp-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm glibc-devel-2.1.3-18.3mdk.i586.rpm [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -ivh gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: gcc-cpp = 2.95.2 is needed by gcc-2.95.2-12mdk gcc 2.96-0.50mdk conflicts with glibc-devel-2.2.4-6mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -e gcc-cpp error: removing these packages would break dependencies: /lib/cpp is needed by XFree86-4.1.0-17mdk /lib/cpp is needed by XFree86-devel-4.1.0-17mdk /lib/cpp is needed by rpmlint-0.35-1mdk /lib/cpp is needed by WindowMaker-0.65.1-4mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -e gcc-cpp --nodeps [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -ivh gcc-cpp-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm Preparing... (10### [100%] 1:gcc-cpp( 4### [100%] [root@kittypuss gcc295]# ls gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i386.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz.part gcc-2.96-0.62mdk.i586.rpm glibc-2.1.3-18.1mdk.i586.rpm gcc-cpp-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm glibc-devel-2.1.3-18.3mdk.i586.rpm [root@kittypuss gcc295]# gcc bash: gcc: command not found [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -ivh gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: gcc 2.96-0.50mdk conflicts with glibc-devel-2.2.4-6mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -Uvh glibc-devel-2.1.3-18.3mdk.i586.rpm --oldpackage error: failed dependencies: glibc-devel 2.2.3 conflicts with glibc-2.2.4-6mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -Uvh glibc-2.1.3-18.1mdk.i586.rpm --oldpackage error: failed dependencies: glibc 2.1.90 conflicts with db2-2.4.14-3mdk glibc 2.1.90 conflicts with db1-1.85-6mdk glibc = 2.1.92 is needed by rpm-4.0.3-0.27mdk glibc = 2.2.4 is needed by locales-2.3.1.2-4mdk glibc = 2.2.4 is needed by locales-2.3.1.2-4mdk glibc = 2.2.4 is needed by glibc-devel-2.2.4-6mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by bash-2.05-10mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by bzip2-1.0.1-14mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libncurses5-5.2-16mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by perl-base-5.601-6mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by grep-2.4.2-9mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by fileutils-4.1-4mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libslang1-1.4.4-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by e2fsprogs-1.24a-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by mktemp-1.5-10mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by gawk-3.1.0-1mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by sed-3.02-12mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by shadow-utils-2902-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by textutils-2.0.14-3mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by mount-2.11h-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by pwdb-0.61-5mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by pam-0.75-7mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by SysVinit-2.78-11mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by sh-utils-2.0.11-5mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by rpm-4.0.3-0.27mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by findutils-4.1.7-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by gzip-1.2.4a-7mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by tar-1.13.22-3mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by grub-0.90-4mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by hdparm-4.1-4mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by losetup-2.11h-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by stat-2.5-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by vim-enhanced-6.0-0.40mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by vim-minimal-6.0-0.40mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by XFree86-libs-4.1.0-17mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libgtk+1.2-1.2.10-14mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by db2-2.4.14-3mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libopenssl0-0.9.6b-1mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libdb3.2-3.2.9-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libimlib1-1.9.11-5mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by gnome-libs-1.4.1.2-6mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by XFree86-4.1.0-17mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by openssl-0.9.6b-1mdk
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 0.9.4?
On Monday 17 December 2001 06:04, Brian Parish wrote: Usually when I get to this point I give up because I knew a little about what I tried to do first, less about the next layer and so on until I figure I know so little about what I'm doing that all I'll acheive is a totally screwed system. Well, maybe not a great philosophy, but it works for me - at least to the extent that my system still boots ;-) Comments? Advice? 1. install apt (apt-0.3.19cnc51-1mdk.i586.rpm) 2. as root, type apt-get update in a terminal 3. type apt-get install mozilla 4. wait a while; it will tell you exactly what needs to be installed. I've found apt faster and more reliable than Mandrake's own *rpmi (MandrakeUpdate); the downside is that it doesn't tell you when something brand new has been added to the cooker. It also seems to ignore packages in the RPMS2 directories, which is where some of the interesting client-side stuff is hidden. Also, I've found it best to install a few outdated packages at a time and watch out for error messages, rather than risking all on a dist-upgrade. But all in all, a great little package. -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n nx dmnstrtn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] I can't take it anymore
I am sorry for being a boogerface, but this distribution as far as I am concerned is too hard for me to fix. I don't know whether to downgrade to 7.2, 8.0, or leave the Mandrake distribution until it can actualy compile something other than dust. I have no one who can help me, and probably no one cares either. I guess I'm too neurologically crippled to figure things out myself well damn it, I need more help with that than other people. sorry did not know other way to express it. I don't know what other linux OS has sound, suse don't got it, debian don't have it, I'm not going to bust my butt fucking around in some stupid-ass goddamn config file buried under 10,000 feet of shit just to get my damn sound working!!! Sorry scuse my french, but I am afriad I must leave, you must be glad I'm leaveing so I'm doing us both a favour. I feel like I have failed the mandrake dist because I'm too crippled to make it go I guess. goodbye I'm sorrry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Ah so you haven't rebooted eh. Go ahead, and reboot then come back to the list with your findings. I did the package install and it was fine for a few hours, after i did the reboot, then it took the new kernel and thats when the problems started. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:11:46 -0500 Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
?? Mandrake says it's ok to install the kernal via packagemanager? I did some searching on the net and found alot of others who had the same problem as I did with the update via PM. From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:30:45 -0500 this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall On Monday 17 December 2001 13:11, you wrote: Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I have HAD IT!!!!!
I Strongly recomend theat you, (not anyone else, just you) go BACK TO REDHAT!!! typos and all. then any problems you have will not be the fault of MAndrake, it will be REDHAT's. not yours, not mine, but Redhat's. so you are right, a lot better than RTFM, go to redhat. and after you get there, consider caffine free coffee after the fouth cup. On Monday 17 December 2001 13:31, you wrote: When is this damn useless compiler going to work? I have Mdk 8.1 and the default compiler is useless, 2.96 is a piece of trash, so I took it off and put on gcc3, again TRASH, so I try to put on 2.95 and all it can give me is the same bullshit over and over WHEN IS THIS STUPID ASS THING going to WORK?? I am very coselgjyuh to going back to readhat. fuc, the typos i'm pissed off [root@kittypuss gcc295]# ls gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i386.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz.part gcc-2.96-0.62mdk.i586.rpm glibc-2.1.3-18.1mdk.i586.rpm gcc-cpp-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm glibc-devel-2.1.3-18.3mdk.i586.rpm [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -ivh gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: gcc-cpp = 2.95.2 is needed by gcc-2.95.2-12mdk gcc 2.96-0.50mdk conflicts with glibc-devel-2.2.4-6mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -e gcc-cpp error: removing these packages would break dependencies: /lib/cpp is needed by XFree86-4.1.0-17mdk /lib/cpp is needed by XFree86-devel-4.1.0-17mdk /lib/cpp is needed by rpmlint-0.35-1mdk /lib/cpp is needed by WindowMaker-0.65.1-4mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -e gcc-cpp --nodeps [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -ivh gcc-cpp-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm Preparing... (10### [100%] 1:gcc-cpp( 4### [100%] [root@kittypuss gcc295]# ls gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i386.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz.part gcc-2.96-0.62mdk.i586.rpm glibc-2.1.3-18.1mdk.i586.rpm gcc-cpp-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm glibc-devel-2.1.3-18.3mdk.i586.rpm [root@kittypuss gcc295]# gcc bash: gcc: command not found [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -ivh gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: gcc 2.96-0.50mdk conflicts with glibc-devel-2.2.4-6mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -Uvh glibc-devel-2.1.3-18.3mdk.i586.rpm --oldpackage error: failed dependencies: glibc-devel 2.2.3 conflicts with glibc-2.2.4-6mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -Uvh glibc-2.1.3-18.1mdk.i586.rpm --oldpackage error: failed dependencies: glibc 2.1.90 conflicts with db2-2.4.14-3mdk glibc 2.1.90 conflicts with db1-1.85-6mdk glibc = 2.1.92 is needed by rpm-4.0.3-0.27mdk glibc = 2.2.4 is needed by locales-2.3.1.2-4mdk glibc = 2.2.4 is needed by locales-2.3.1.2-4mdk glibc = 2.2.4 is needed by glibc-devel-2.2.4-6mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by bash-2.05-10mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by bzip2-1.0.1-14mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libncurses5-5.2-16mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by perl-base-5.601-6mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by grep-2.4.2-9mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by fileutils-4.1-4mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libslang1-1.4.4-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by e2fsprogs-1.24a-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by mktemp-1.5-10mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by gawk-3.1.0-1mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by sed-3.02-12mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by shadow-utils-2902-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by textutils-2.0.14-3mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by mount-2.11h-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by pwdb-0.61-5mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by pam-0.75-7mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by SysVinit-2.78-11mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by sh-utils-2.0.11-5mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by rpm-4.0.3-0.27mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by findutils-4.1.7-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by gzip-1.2.4a-7mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by tar-1.13.22-3mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by grub-0.90-4mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by hdparm-4.1-4mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by losetup-2.11h-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by stat-2.5-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by vim-enhanced-6.0-0.40mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by vim-minimal-6.0-0.40mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by XFree86-libs-4.1.0-17mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libgtk+1.2-1.2.10-14mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by db2-2.4.14-3mdk
Re: [newbie] I can't take it anymore
of course, if you had the CD's you could boot from the CD and do a developer install as an upgrade I do believe. might get you all the fine stuff you require. On Monday 17 December 2001 13:38, you wrote: I am sorry for being a boogerface, but this distribution as far as I am concerned is too hard for me to fix. I don't know whether to downgrade to 7.2, 8.0, or leave the Mandrake distribution until it can actualy compile something other than dust. I have no one who can help me, and probably no one cares either. I guess I'm too neurologically crippled to figure things out myself well damn it, I need more help with that than other people. sorry did not know other way to express it. I don't know what other linux OS has sound, suse don't got it, debian don't have it, I'm not going to bust my butt fucking around in some stupid-ass goddamn config file buried under 10,000 feet of shit just to get my damn sound working!!! Sorry scuse my french, but I am afriad I must leave, you must be glad I'm leaveing so I'm doing us both a favour. I feel like I have failed the mandrake dist because I'm too crippled to make it go I guess. goodbye I'm sorrry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I have HAD IT!!!!!
Why not boot up the ML CD's and selection the option for UPGRADe then select the Developer packages. From: Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] I have HAD IT! Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:42:47 -0500 you know...at this point I think I would go back and reinstall the system and this time I would do the developer install if you didn't happen to do that the first time. I'm really sorry you're having such a hard time with it, but I've never experienced any of the troubles you're having with the compiler that comes with any of the Mandrake distributions. lets remember something here. it's the famous 80/15/5 % rule. 80% of computer problems are user 15% are software and... 5% are hardware problems. I know that that isn't something you want to hear at the moment given the fact that you're REALLY pissed and I don't blame you for the way you feel. However, perspective is incredibly important at moments like this. And it Ain't Mandrake's distro that is the problem nor the compiler that comes with the distro. So tell me...did you do the developer (expert) install when you installed Mandrake on your computer or what? Mark Newbie wrote: When is this damn useless compiler going to work? I have Mdk 8.1 and the default compiler is useless, 2.96 is a piece of trash, so I took it off and put on gcc3, again TRASH, so I try to put on 2.95 and all it can give me is the same bullshit over and over WHEN IS THIS STUPID ASS THING going to WORK?? I am very coselgjyuh to going back to readhat. fuc, the typos i'm pissed off [root@kittypuss gcc295]# ls gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i386.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz.part gcc-2.96-0.62mdk.i586.rpm glibc-2.1.3-18.1mdk.i586.rpm gcc-cpp-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm glibc-devel-2.1.3-18.3mdk.i586.rpm [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -ivh gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: gcc-cpp = 2.95.2 is needed by gcc-2.95.2-12mdk gcc 2.96-0.50mdk conflicts with glibc-devel-2.2.4-6mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -e gcc-cpp error: removing these packages would break dependencies: /lib/cpp is needed by XFree86-4.1.0-17mdk /lib/cpp is needed by XFree86-devel-4.1.0-17mdk /lib/cpp is needed by rpmlint-0.35-1mdk /lib/cpp is needed by WindowMaker-0.65.1-4mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -e gcc-cpp --nodeps [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -ivh gcc-cpp-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm Preparing... (10### [100%] 1:gcc-cpp ( 4### [100%] [root@kittypuss gcc295]# ls gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i386.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz.part gcc-2.96-0.62mdk.i586.rpm glibc-2.1.3-18.1mdk.i586.rpm gcc-cpp-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm glibc-devel-2.1.3-18.3mdk.i586.rpm [root@kittypuss gcc295]# gcc bash: gcc: command not found [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -ivh gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: gcc 2.96-0.50mdk conflicts with glibc-devel-2.2.4-6mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -Uvh glibc-devel-2.1.3-18.3mdk.i586.rpm --oldpackage error: failed dependencies: glibc-devel 2.2.3 conflicts with glibc-2.2.4-6mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -Uvh glibc-2.1.3-18.1mdk.i586.rpm --oldpackage error: failed dependencies: glibc 2.1.90 conflicts with db2-2.4.14-3mdk glibc 2.1.90 conflicts with db1-1.85-6mdk glibc = 2.1.92 is needed by rpm-4.0.3-0.27mdk glibc = 2.2.4 is needed by locales-2.3.1.2-4mdk glibc = 2.2.4 is needed by locales-2.3.1.2-4mdk glibc = 2.2.4 is needed by glibc-devel-2.2.4-6mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by bash-2.05-10mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by bzip2-1.0.1-14mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libncurses5-5.2-16mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by perl-base-5.601-6mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by grep-2.4.2-9mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by fileutils-4.1-4mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libslang1-1.4.4-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by e2fsprogs-1.24a-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by mktemp-1.5-10mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by gawk-3.1.0-1mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by sed-3.02-12mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by shadow-utils-2902-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by textutils-2.0.14-3mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by mount-2.11h-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by pwdb-0.61-5mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by pam-0.75-7mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
actually i believe he is saying that mandrake also recommends not doing the kernal by package. i seem to recall a statement from mandrake about that, though it may have been reguarding only a certain kernal. On Monday 17 December 2001 10:53, you spoke unto me thusly: ?? Mandrake says it's ok to install the kernal via packagemanager? I did some searching on the net and found alot of others who had the same problem as I did with the update via PM. From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:30:45 -0500 this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy. Give Linux to a friend today. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slow image activation
to locate a file on your computer, there are a few good utilities, the one I use in KDE is found at K(menu bar bottom left corner, like start in M$ prod.) Applications file tools find files. dmesg is the log of the boot up messages that you see if you use a text boot up. /var/log/dmseg is mine, you will need to be root to access it. It appears to me that you are piggybacking on someone else's problem, as the original I was answering had to do with the desktop of the Mandrake Machine, and slow (10 to fifteen seconds) to load a locally stored file. if the problem you are having is with multiple computers connected to a single dial up Internet connection, and it seems the graphics load quicker after a while and you are running Squid, that is normal as the cache in Squid is filling with the graphics that repeat and are now stored local. are we referring to a local (on that machine) stored files or files over the net? if your network is of the 192.168.0.1 variety does that mena the computer that is connected to the dial up the dhcp server? On Monday 17 December 2001 07:21, you wrote: Now you're just trying to make me look greener right? :-) Where would I find a dmseg file? ...is this on the server, the client, or both? ypbind is not running. My network is of the 192.168.0.1 variety with a shared ppp dialup. The slowess occurs on the clients, although of course that could be a result of the server being slow to get things happening. Right now, with the server having been up all day and squid running on it, a fresh boot of a client works like a charm. So either starting squid has made a difference, or something on the server eventually stops getting in the way. Brian On Monday 17 December 2001 11:00 pm, you wrote: post the output of your dmseg file, do you have ypbind running? do you have a local network? is this box the dhcp server or a client? On Sunday 16 December 2001 23:20, you wrote: Thanks for the responses to this. I don't think that there are any extra servers running. One thing that may be related is that if I run linuxconf and quit, it complains that squid isn't running and will start it if I let it do so. Could this be implicated? I notice that during the shutdown, I get error messages telling me it failed to be stopped, presumably because it wasn't running, so it seems that something expects it to be started. Hosts files shouldn't be an issue as I am using DHCP and therefore don't have any addresses there other than that of the server. thanks again for the input! Brian On Friday 14 December 2001 10:10 pm, you wrote: have you both considered turning off all the servers possible ? this sounds to me like a dns , routed or ypbind server running (that you don't need, and is not correctly configured. are you trying to run a local DNS server? (as oppsosed to a local cacheing name server) do you have ypbind running (but don't have yellow pages needed?). Are all the local network computers hosts file correct? what about the IP numbers for the DNS servers? do you have it set to need DNS all the time? are you running reiserFS on the dedicated server, which offers some NFS exports (not a good Idea) my bet is on the DNS. I always thought a novell server would use ipx/spx, not tcp/ip? On Thursday 13 December 2001 23:19, you wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:40:46 +1100 Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] frantically pecked out this message: I have a total of 4 Linux machines (OK, some of them dual boot, but let's not talk about that) on a home/office LAN. One of them is a dedicated server, which offers some NFS exports. Everything works very nicely, except that programs take forever to load the first time. Just to fire up a konsole can take 10 seconds plus - this on a machine rated at 2800 bogomips with lots of memory. After things have been up for a while (don't know how long, but many minutes at least), everything is quick again. Haven't tested exhaustively, but it seems that with the LAN unplugged, none of this applies. This is a network issue if I've ever heard one. There is something not right with the network. I have a feeling it's got something to do with authentication somewhere on that LAN. Or, (the last time I saw this one of the machines responsible was a windows box - the novell client went south and killed the TCP/IP stack.) In that case when the TCP stack became corrupt it really dirtied the TCP communications on the network between that machine and the servers. While it didn't affect the overall performance of the network itself, it affected profoundly the machine that was having the trouble. In that case the offending client was uninstalled, as well as the TCP/IP stack which was
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
That's the beauty of Linux. I shouldn't HAVE to reboot...right? :-) Fortunately, it's only a machine for me to learn the OS on, so I don't have a problem wiping and re-installing... -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Ah so you haven't rebooted eh. Go ahead, and reboot then come back to the list with your findings. I did the package install and it was fine for a few hours, after i did the reboot, then it took the new kernel and thats when the problems started. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:11:46 -0500 Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
well, if you don't reboot, you are still reading the kernel you booted with, so you have not yet experianced the problems you will have when ever you do reboot On Monday 17 December 2001 13:56, you wrote: That's the beauty of Linux. I shouldn't HAVE to reboot...right? :-) Fortunately, it's only a machine for me to learn the OS on, so I don't have a problem wiping and re-installing... -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Ah so you haven't rebooted eh. Go ahead, and reboot then come back to the list with your findings. I did the package install and it was fine for a few hours, after i did the reboot, then it took the new kernel and thats when the problems started. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:11:46 -0500 Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
NO Mandrake says do NOT upgrade the kernal VIA packagemanger On Monday 17 December 2001 13:53, you wrote: ?? Mandrake says it's ok to install the kernal via packagemanager? I did some searching on the net and found alot of others who had the same problem as I did with the update via PM. From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:30:45 -0500 this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall On Monday 17 December 2001 13:11, you wrote: Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Oh ok. I thought thats what he was saying From: shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:07:04 -0800 actually i believe he is saying that mandrake also recommends not doing the kernal by package. i seem to recall a statement from mandrake about that, though it may have been reguarding only a certain kernal. On Monday 17 December 2001 10:53, you spoke unto me thusly: ?? Mandrake says it's ok to install the kernal via packagemanager? I did some searching on the net and found alot of others who had the same problem as I did with the update via PM. From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:30:45 -0500 this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy. Give Linux to a friend today. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
With the kernel you have to reboot for it to take effect. Try this at the command line type in : uname -a You'll see the current kernel that your using. Before you do reboot. Make sure you have a bootdisk and you have read the steps I had to take. Because once you reboot, your not going anywhere until you install the kernel the correct way. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:56:03 -0500 That's the beauty of Linux. I shouldn't HAVE to reboot...right? :-) Fortunately, it's only a machine for me to learn the OS on, so I don't have a problem wiping and re-installing... -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Ah so you haven't rebooted eh. Go ahead, and reboot then come back to the list with your findings. I did the package install and it was fine for a few hours, after i did the reboot, then it took the new kernel and thats when the problems started. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:11:46 -0500 Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Ok, that makes more sense. From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:11:09 -0500 NO Mandrake says do NOT upgrade the kernal VIA packagemanger On Monday 17 December 2001 13:53, you wrote: ?? Mandrake says it's ok to install the kernal via packagemanager? I did some searching on the net and found alot of others who had the same problem as I did with the update via PM. From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:30:45 -0500 this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall On Monday 17 December 2001 13:11, you wrote: Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I have HAD IT!!!!!
On Monday 17 December 2001 01:50 pm, Ed Tharp wrote: I Strongly recomend theat you, (not anyone else, just you) go BACK TO REDHAT!!! typos and all. then any problems you have will not be the fault of MAndrake, it will be REDHAT's. not yours, not mine, but Redhat's. so you are right, a lot better than RTFM, go to redhat. and after you get there, consider caffine free coffee after the fouth cup. This is that same troll from kittypuss that had that week-long, two thousand post thread going a couple months ago. Filter the sob. Randy Donohoe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Title: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake I recall something like that and did it anyway to see what would happen. My logic being that if this was a dangerous thing to do why would it be set up to show up on the Mandrake update. Anyway, I have rebooted both machines since then and have had no problems show up. This is what fascinates me about linux and the online download process, what works for one may not work for another but there are always alternatives. Dennis M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Tharp Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake NO Mandrake says do NOT upgrade the kernal VIA packagemanger On Monday 17 December 2001 13:53, you wrote: ?? Mandrake says it's ok to install the kernal via packagemanager? I did some searching on the net and found alot of others who had the same problem as I did with the update via PM. From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:30:45 -0500 this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall On Monday 17 December 2001 13:11, you wrote: Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Or the lovely thing about Linux. It was all a fluke! :) Funny, I had the problem and before I could tell one of my work buddies we was calling me on Sunday morning with the same problem. I was up until about 4am just trying to get my system back up and running without having to reinstall the whole lot. From: Myers, Dennis R NWO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:20:05 -0800 I recall something like that and did it anyway to see what would happen. My logic being that if this was a dangerous thing to do why would it be set up to show up on the Mandrake update. Anyway, I have rebooted both machines since then and have had no problems show up. This is what fascinates me about linux and the online download process, what works for one may not work for another but there are always alternatives. Dennis M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Tharp Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake NO Mandrake says do NOT upgrade the kernal VIA packagemanger On Monday 17 December 2001 13:53, you wrote: ?? Mandrake says it's ok to install the kernal via packagemanager? I did some searching on the net and found alot of others who had the same problem as I did with the update via PM. From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:30:45 -0500 this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall On Monday 17 December 2001 13:11, you wrote: Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I can't take it anymore
I have no one who can help me, and probably no one cares either. What a totally lame attitude. Nobody ever claimed either that this list would solve every problem, or that it was the only means of help. And no reasonable person would expect it to be. Try MandrakeExpert or other lists before you throw a tantrum based on unreasonable expectations. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I have HAD IT!!!!!
you know...at this point I think I would go back and reinstall the system and this time I would do the developer install if you didn't happen to do that the first time. I'm really sorry you're having such a hard time with it, but I've never experienced any of the troubles you're having with the compiler that comes with any of the Mandrake distributions. lets remember something here. it's the famous 80/15/5 % rule. 80% of computer problems are user 15% are software and... 5% are hardware problems. I know that that isn't something you want to hear at the moment given the fact that you're REALLY pissed and I don't blame you for the way you feel. However, perspective is incredibly important at moments like this. And it Ain't Mandrake's distro that is the problem nor the compiler that comes with the distro. So tell me...did you do the developer (expert) install when you installed Mandrake on your computer or what? Mark Newbie wrote: When is this damn useless compiler going to work? I have Mdk 8.1 and the default compiler is useless, 2.96 is a piece of trash, so I took it off and put on gcc3, again TRASH, so I try to put on 2.95 and all it can give me is the same bullshit over and over WHEN IS THIS STUPID ASS THING going to WORK?? I am very coselgjyuh to going back to readhat. fuc, the typos i'm pissed off [root@kittypuss gcc295]# ls gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i386.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz.part gcc-2.96-0.62mdk.i586.rpm glibc-2.1.3-18.1mdk.i586.rpm gcc-cpp-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm glibc-devel-2.1.3-18.3mdk.i586.rpm [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -ivh gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: gcc-cpp = 2.95.2 is needed by gcc-2.95.2-12mdk gcc 2.96-0.50mdk conflicts with glibc-devel-2.2.4-6mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -e gcc-cpp error: removing these packages would break dependencies: /lib/cpp is needed by XFree86-4.1.0-17mdk /lib/cpp is needed by XFree86-devel-4.1.0-17mdk /lib/cpp is needed by rpmlint-0.35-1mdk /lib/cpp is needed by WindowMaker-0.65.1-4mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -e gcc-cpp --nodeps [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -ivh gcc-cpp-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm Preparing... (10### [100%] 1:gcc-cpp( 4### [100%] [root@kittypuss gcc295]# ls gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i386.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz.part gcc-2.96-0.62mdk.i586.rpm glibc-2.1.3-18.1mdk.i586.rpm gcc-cpp-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm glibc-devel-2.1.3-18.3mdk.i586.rpm [root@kittypuss gcc295]# gcc bash: gcc: command not found [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -ivh gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: gcc 2.96-0.50mdk conflicts with glibc-devel-2.2.4-6mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -Uvh glibc-devel-2.1.3-18.3mdk.i586.rpm --oldpackage error: failed dependencies: glibc-devel 2.2.3 conflicts with glibc-2.2.4-6mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -Uvh glibc-2.1.3-18.1mdk.i586.rpm --oldpackage error: failed dependencies: glibc 2.1.90 conflicts with db2-2.4.14-3mdk glibc 2.1.90 conflicts with db1-1.85-6mdk glibc = 2.1.92 is needed by rpm-4.0.3-0.27mdk glibc = 2.2.4 is needed by locales-2.3.1.2-4mdk glibc = 2.2.4 is needed by locales-2.3.1.2-4mdk glibc = 2.2.4 is needed by glibc-devel-2.2.4-6mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by bash-2.05-10mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by bzip2-1.0.1-14mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libncurses5-5.2-16mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by perl-base-5.601-6mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by grep-2.4.2-9mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by fileutils-4.1-4mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libslang1-1.4.4-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by e2fsprogs-1.24a-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by mktemp-1.5-10mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by gawk-3.1.0-1mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by sed-3.02-12mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by shadow-utils-2902-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by textutils-2.0.14-3mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by mount-2.11h-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by pwdb-0.61-5mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by pam-0.75-7mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by SysVinit-2.78-11mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by sh-utils-2.0.11-5mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by rpm-4.0.3-0.27mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by findutils-4.1.7-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by gzip-1.2.4a-7mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by
Re: [newbie] Samba question - making shares invisible
- Normally NETBIOS name to IP resolution is done by the DNS, but you probably don't have one. NETBIOS name to IP resolutin is (or can be) done by a WINS server (which SAMBA will emulate, if you tell it to), or - optionally - from an LMHOSTS files (not LMHOSTS.SAM - that's a SAMple file). - -- Michael J. Leone Registered Linux user #201348 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 50453890 AIM: MikeLeone PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF PGP public key: http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.gpg Foreman, roving paving crew, Dept. of Roads, Hades. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] I have HAD IT!!!!! OT now, w/snip
yep, I did recognize the kittypuss address. not really a problem, heck if I had better stuff going on in MY life, I would not have bothered to reply, my delete key works GREAT!!! On Monday 17 December 2001 14:36, you wrote: Ed, Don't you recognize Vic? I didn't realize at first it was him either until I kept reading the rant. it all sounded so familiar. His rants are always so terrible and deperate. He's been going by Newbie for a little while now, but the mail addy is still the same. Mark Ed Tharp wrote: I Strongly recomend theat you, (not anyone else, just you) go BACK TO REDHAT!!! typos and all. then any problems you have will not be the fault of MAndrake, it will be REDHAT's. not yours, not mine, but Redhat's. so you are right, a lot better than RTFM, go to redhat. and after you get there, consider caffine free coffee after the fouth cup. On Monday 17 December 2001 13:31, you wrote: When is this damn useless compiler going to work? I have Mdk 8.1 and the default compiler is useless, 2.96 is a piece of trash, so I took it off and put on gcc3, again TRASH, so I try to put on 2.95 and all it can give me is the same bullshit over and over WHEN IS THIS STUPID ASS THING going to WORK?? I am very coselgjyuh to going back to readhat. fuc, the typos i'm pissed off [root@kittypuss gcc295]# ls snipped a lot about the problem Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I can't take it anymore
ah come on...poor Vic is just a little pissed and frustrated, thats all. we've all been there a time or two. Mark P.S. flames are ok, but please don't throw anything at me. Miark wrote: I have no one who can help me, and probably no one cares either. What a totally lame attitude. Nobody ever claimed either that this list would solve every problem, or that it was the only means of help. And no reasonable person would expect it to be. Try MandrakeExpert or other lists before you throw a tantrum based on unreasonable expectations. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I can't take it anymore
I believe it was said previously that; This list does not contain any answers or solutions, only opinions, some just happen to be either helpful or correct. On Monday 17 December 2001 14:41, you wrote: I have no one who can help me, and probably no one cares either. What a totally lame attitude. Nobody ever claimed either that this list would solve every problem, or that it was the only means of help. And no reasonable person would expect it to be. Try MandrakeExpert or other lists before you throw a tantrum based on unreasonable expectations. Miark hey, I also heard that if you _REALLY_ need a solution, you can pay for the correct answer, I believe you can find the page to connect to at http://www.mandrakeexpert.com/index1.php; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I have HAD IT!!!!! OT now, w/snip
Isn't kittypuss the name of Bill Gates machine? ;) Maybe he's just trolling cause he knows people are losing interest in Windoze. hehe At 02:51 PM 12/17/01 -0500, you wrote: yep, I did recognize the kittypuss address. not really a problem, heck if I had better stuff going on in MY life, I would not have bothered to reply, my delete key works GREAT!!! On Monday 17 December 2001 14:36, you wrote: Ed, Don't you recognize Vic? I didn't realize at first it was him either until I kept reading the rant. it all sounded so familiar. His rants are always so terrible and deperate. He's been going by Newbie for a little while now, but the mail addy is still the same. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO issues with 2 hard drives.
Actually I did post my /etc/lilo.conf file earlier today. If you didn't receive it through this list let me know and I'll repost it. Ivan. At 03:15 PM 12/17/01 +, you wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by smtp.mandrakesoft.com id fBHFHJtC011754 Post your LILO file But I had something somewhat like your error when setting up two HD with two different ditros. HDA is my e-smith(firewall) and I have Mandrake on HDB. When installing mandrake on hdb it wrote the to mbr of hda. I would get those 01010101000 messages at boot time. What I needed to do was boot using a bootfloppy, into HDA, run lilo and that fix the problem. But what I had to do to boot from both HD's was to copy the /BOOT from hdb to a tmp directory on hda and fix the lilo.conf file hda to read the correct files for mandrake, but did indicate that harddrive for mandrake was hdb instead of hda. Run lilo again and all is well. I can boot into hda or hdb. I think the problem is that in the install of mandrake it ASSUMES that it's been installed HDA and not HDB, so when it created the lilo boot it didn't so any error checking that the image files and kernals are not found in hda. If you can swap drives, so that Linux will become hda and windowz hdb. From: Ivan Offalich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] LILO issues with 2 hard drives. Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:56:55 -0600 In addition to my previous post... Here are my boot options from my BIOS. First Boot Device: Floppy Second Boot Device: Hard Disk Third Boot Device: Disabled Fourth Boot Device: Disabled The only possible choices to set these to are: Disabled Floppy Hard Disk Network As I had mentioned in my previous post there isn't a way to set any of these to the second hard drive. Setting it to Hard Disk assumes that the Primary Master is the boot drive. This is the newest version available for my BIOS. If any additional information can be of help, please let me know, Ivan. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I have HAD IT!!!!! OT now, w/snip
Roflmao On Monday 17 December 2001 14:58, you wrote: Isn't kittypuss the name of Bill Gates machine? ;) Maybe he's just trolling cause he knows people are losing interest in Windoze. hehe At 02:51 PM 12/17/01 -0500, you wrote: yep, I did recognize the kittypuss address. not really a problem, heck if I had better stuff going on in MY life, I would not have bothered to reply, my delete key works GREAT!!! On Monday 17 December 2001 14:36, you wrote: Ed, Don't you recognize Vic? I didn't realize at first it was him either until I kept reading the rant. it all sounded so familiar. His rants are always so terrible and deperate. He's been going by Newbie for a little while now, but the mail addy is still the same. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO issues with 2 hard drives.
I did go to thearchive of the mailing list and didn't see it. Repost it please. From: Ivan Offalich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] LILO issues with 2 hard drives. Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:01:05 -0600 Actually I did post my /etc/lilo.conf file earlier today. If you didn't receive it through this list let me know and I'll repost it. Ivan. At 03:15 PM 12/17/01 +, you wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by smtp.mandrakesoft.com id fBHFHJtC011754 Post your LILO file But I had something somewhat like your error when setting up two HD with two different ditros. HDA is my e-smith(firewall) and I have Mandrake on HDB. When installing mandrake on hdb it wrote the to mbr of hda. I would get those 01010101000 messages at boot time. What I needed to do was boot using a bootfloppy, into HDA, run lilo and that fix the problem. But what I had to do to boot from both HD's was to copy the /BOOT from hdb to a tmp directory on hda and fix the lilo.conf file hda to read the correct files for mandrake, but did indicate that harddrive for mandrake was hdb instead of hda. Run lilo again and all is well. I can boot into hda or hdb. I think the problem is that in the install of mandrake it ASSUMES that it's been installed HDA and not HDB, so when it created the lilo boot it didn't so any error checking that the image files and kernals are not found in hda. If you can swap drives, so that Linux will become hda and windowz hdb. From: Ivan Offalich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] LILO issues with 2 hard drives. Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:56:55 -0600 In addition to my previous post... Here are my boot options from my BIOS. First Boot Device: Floppy Second Boot Device: Hard Disk Third Boot Device: Disabled Fourth Boot Device: Disabled The only possible choices to set these to are: Disabled Floppy Hard Disk Network As I had mentioned in my previous post there isn't a way to set any of these to the second hard drive. Setting it to Hard Disk assumes that the Primary Master is the boot drive. This is the newest version available for my BIOS. If any additional information can be of help, please let me know, Ivan. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 05:11, you wrote: Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! Umm...if you select the Kernel in Mandrake Update and read the comments...it actually says Don't use Mandrake Update to do this (or words to that effect) in short Updating kernel automatically bad Installing Kernel side-by-side with existing kernel, then checking lilo initrd before rebooting good -- Andrew George --- It's a brave man who, when things are at their darkest, can kick back and party! -- Dennis Quaid, Inner Space Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: [Newbie] LILO issues with 2 hard drives.
[Repost] At 08:10 AM 12/17/01 -0600, I wrote: Since this will be a long post I snipped everything previous. I will post my IDE chain and my /etc/lilo.conf file and hopefully that will help everyone with determining what exactly I'm what I'm missing. ;) Primary IDE Master: 6.4 GIG EIDE Harddrive (aka hda) 3 partitions C:, E:, and F: in Windoze Primary IDE Slave: Iomega Zip 100 MB (I keep a disk in there due to the fact that certain times there's one expected, this alleviates confusion.) This shows up as D: in Windoze. Secondary IDE Master: 20.0 GIG EIDE Harddrive (aka hdc) 4 Partitions / (aka hdc1) Swap (aka hdc5) /usr (aka hdc6) /home (aka hdc7) Secondary IDE Slave: Plexwriter CD-RW Drive G: in Windoze My motherboard/BIOS does not support CD-ROM booting. AFAIK, hda is the primary boot device. I will double check my BIOS after sending this, but I believe that my BIOS doesn't have a method of adding the second harddrive (hdc) to the boot chain, only the floppy drive or the Primary IDE Master. Below is my /etc/lilo.conf file. One note about it, when I installed Linux, I setup a password with LILO. Now that I think about it, it never asked me for the password upon boot. I've added #comments below, these comments are not actually part of the file, I added them for this post. /etc/lilo.conf # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line too. password=** # I'm not telling. ;) boot=/dev/hda# If I understand correctly this should be telling LILO to boot off hda map=/boot/map# If I understand correctly this is where LILO stores the info on where each OS is and how to boot it install=/boot/boot.b # I'm not sure I understand this line vga=791 # So it looks nicer when it boots default=linux # This is the default OS for my LILO configuration, it will boot the image labeled as linux keytable=/boot/us.klt # This loads my keyboard configuration lba32 # This helps LILO (or is it Linux) work with my BIOS to see my hard drives correctly prompt # This allows me to choose which OS to load when I start my computer timeout=50 # If I don't choose, LILO loads the default after 5 seconds message=/boot/message # LILO displays the text of this file upon starting menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw # I don't understand this line either, but I believe this defines the look of the LILO prompt # The last section defines the bootable OSes, defines their location, and gives each one a name image=/boot/vmlinuz-secure label=linux root=/dev/hdc1 append= mem=128M hdd=ide-scsi hdb=ide=floppy vga=788 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux-up root=/dev/hdc1 append= mem=128M hdd=ide-scsi hdb=ide-floppy read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hdc1 append= mem=128M hdd=ide-scsi hdb=ide-floppy failsafe read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda That should do it. I appreciate everyone helping me sort this out. Ivan. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO issues with 2 hard drives.
answer... you NEED the cd and dvd on the same IDE channel, and you NEED to use the slowest common speed (ie dma33) on each channel, and you NEED the ata 100 (special) ide cable On Monday 17 December 2001 15:26, you wrote: I did go to thearchive of the mailing list and didn't see it. Repost it please. From: Ivan Offalich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] LILO issues with 2 hard drives. Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:01:05 -0600 Actually I did post my /etc/lilo.conf file earlier today. If you didn't receive it through this list let me know and I'll repost it. Ivan. At 03:15 PM 12/17/01 +, you wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by smtp.mandrakesoft.com id fBHFHJtC011754 Post your LILO file But I had something somewhat like your error when setting up two HD with two different ditros. HDA is my e-smith(firewall) and I have Mandrake on HDB. When installing mandrake on hdb it wrote the to mbr of hda. I would get those 01010101000 messages at boot time. What I needed to do was boot using a bootfloppy, into HDA, run lilo and that fix the problem. But what I had to do to boot from both HD's was to copy the /BOOT from hdb to a tmp directory on hda and fix the lilo.conf file hda to read the correct files for mandrake, but did indicate that harddrive for mandrake was hdb instead of hda. Run lilo again and all is well. I can boot into hda or hdb. I think the problem is that in the install of mandrake it ASSUMES that it's been installed HDA and not HDB, so when it created the lilo boot it didn't so any error checking that the image files and kernals are not found in hda. If you can swap drives, so that Linux will become hda and windowz hdb. From: Ivan Offalich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] LILO issues with 2 hard drives. Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:56:55 -0600 In addition to my previous post... Here are my boot options from my BIOS. First Boot Device: Floppy Second Boot Device: Hard Disk Third Boot Device: Disabled Fourth Boot Device: Disabled The only possible choices to set these to are: Disabled Floppy Hard Disk Network As I had mentioned in my previous post there isn't a way to set any of these to the second hard drive. Setting it to Hard Disk assumes that the Primary Master is the boot drive. This is the newest version available for my BIOS. If any additional information can be of help, please let me know, Ivan. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I have HAD IT!!!!! OT now, w/snip
nah, its poor Vic and I think he's really got his pickle in a tight spot this time. ooops...pardon the pun. Mark Ivan Offalich wrote: Isn't kittypuss the name of Bill Gates machine? ;) Maybe he's just trolling cause he knows people are losing interest in Windoze. hehe At 02:51 PM 12/17/01 -0500, you wrote: yep, I did recognize the kittypuss address. not really a problem, heck if I had better stuff going on in MY life, I would not have bothered to reply, my delete key works GREAT!!! On Monday 17 December 2001 14:36, you wrote: Ed, Don't you recognize Vic? I didn't realize at first it was him either until I kept reading the rant. it all sounded so familiar. His rants are always so terrible and deperate. He's been going by Newbie for a little while now, but the mail addy is still the same. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
For future reference, urpmi is a safe way to update your kernel. su to root and enter urpmi kernel. Its the CLI end to the Software Manager so if you want newer kernels put the cooker ftp's in your sources. - Fate protects fools, little children, and ships named Enterprise. - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
On Monday 17 December 2001 11:16, you spoke unto me thusly: well, if you don't reboot, you are still reading the kernel you booted with, so you have not yet experianced the problems you will have when ever you do reboot ...and still have a chance to fix the problem before it _is_ a problem. :) -- 'Windows for Dummies' is much more than a book title, it's a Microsoft way of life! shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I can't take it anymore
At 12:38 PM 12/17/2001 -0600, Newbie wrote: I guess I'm too neurologically crippled to figure things out myself well damn it, I need more help with that than other people. sorry did not know other way to express it. Don't be too down on yourself. No one person knows everything. Have you asked your questions in [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Someone somewhere has an answer. Unfortuneatly, it make take a month or so to find that person. I'd suggest paying for tech support but you might end up waiting a long time for an answer from paid tech support also. I don't know what other linux OS has sound, suse don't got it, debian don't have it, I'm not going to bust my butt fucking around in some stupid-ass goddamn config file buried under 10,000 feet of shit just to get my damn sound working!!! Have you checked the hardware compatibility list? If it's not supported, throw it away get one that is. I had to do that with a video card. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I have HAD IT!!!!! OT now, w/snip
On Monday 17 December 2001 02:04 pm, you wrote: nah, its poor Vic and I think he's really got his pickle in a tight spot this time. ooops...pardon the pun. I have to agree, Linux is very fustrating at times and people need a way to vent, I think Vic is only asking for an ear to listen. Thank God I can take off my hearing aid. : - ) Just kidding David M. AIM: dmcglone27 ICQ: 96210352 Mark Ivan Offalich wrote: Isn't kittypuss the name of Bill Gates machine? ;) Maybe he's just trolling cause he knows people are losing interest in Windoze. hehe At 02:51 PM 12/17/01 -0500, you wrote: yep, I did recognize the kittypuss address. not really a problem, heck if I had better stuff going on in MY life, I would not have bothered to reply, my delete key works GREAT!!! On Monday 17 December 2001 14:36, you wrote: Ed, Don't you recognize Vic? I didn't realize at first it was him either until I kept reading the rant. it all sounded so familiar. His rants are always so terrible and deperate. He's been going by Newbie for a little while now, but the mail addy is still the same. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
True, very true From: shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:15:30 -0800 On Monday 17 December 2001 11:16, you spoke unto me thusly: well, if you don't reboot, you are still reading the kernel you booted with, so you have not yet experianced the problems you will have when ever you do reboot ...and still have a chance to fix the problem before it _is_ a problem. :) -- 'Windows for Dummies' is much more than a book title, it's a Microsoft way of life! shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sound trouble, again, plus joystick
did your integrated i810 sound card get turned on in the bios? I would first disable this card in the bios, then try to reconfigure via Mandrake Control Center. On Monday 17 December 2001 06:14 am, you wrote: I've got a Soundblaster Live card, plus an integrated i810 sound chip. I'm using the SB exclusively - I don't want to have anything to do with the latter. The sound configuration on my system, which never worked adequately to start with ( =midi nonfunctional), has gone from bad to worse. One day when I started up the system, Linux decided suddenly to detect the i810 to which it had until then paid no attention. Now the situation is that whenever I start up the system I have to run sndconfig to get _any_ sound at all out. The configure functionality in HardDrake can't do anything at all about it: when it tries to play an 8 bit sample with the i810, I get 'sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Permission denied' (and no sound), and when it tries the same thing for SBLive, I get no errors, nor sound. Now, I'm absolutely losing patience with this PoS. Could someone advice me how to get things in working order? It would be absolutely wonderful to get instructions on how to remove _everything_ related to sound and then reinstall the drivers/whatevers _correctly_ from scratch. Also, I can't figure out how to get my joystick detected. It's an old-fashioned non-USB affair (a Gravis with a rudder wheel), and I have two joy ports to spare, one in the motherboard, one in the SB card. +Cinquo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] LILO issues with 2 hard drives.
May you add the following disk=/dev/hda bios=0x80 disk=/dev/hdb bios=0x81 disk=/dev/hdc bios=0x82 disk=/dev/hdd bios=0x83 or if it does not work disk=/dev/hda bios=0x80 disk=/dev/hdc bios=0x81 to the /etc/lilo.conf right under the line boot=/dev/hda ? and of course run lilo, check if lilo gives an error output and check if it works ? Most probably, adding only disk=/dev/hdc bios=0x81 or disk=/dev/hdc bios=0x82 will fix it, just try which one solves and plz inform us :) And whitin your tests, please keep whatever is in hdb, in its place. Good Luck Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] strange behaviors?
Hi all, I'm new to mdk8.1 and, right now, am reading help files. I notice some of the help files (not all of them)- presently Linuxconf's add-ons - open the full length of the screen but I can't see all that's there - info continues off the bottom of the screen. Resizing the window to the 'restore' setting, I tried to adjust the size of the box smaller by dragging- the cursor changes, but dragging does nothing but move the double arrow cursor downward. Has anyone had any luck with expanding the capabilities of the ATI all in wonder pro video card? ATI says their products will only act as a graphics adapter under other OS's, but before I shell out the bucks for a card with similar capabilities, eg. tv - tv recording, video capture, etc., maybe someone here knows a resource I could investigate. Failing that, what card(s) would fill the bill? Thanks, Curt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Strange behaviors
Hi all, I'm new to mdk8.1 and, right now, am reading help files. I notice some of the help files (not all of them)- presently Linuxconf's add-ons - open the full length of the screen but I can't see all that's there - info continues off the bottom of the screen. Resizing the window to the 'restore' setting, I tried to adjust the size of the box smaller by dragging- the cursor changes, but dragging does nothing but move the double arrow cursor downward. Has anyone had any luck with expanding the capabilities of the ATI all in wonder pro video card? ATI says their products will only act as a graphics adapter under other OS's, but before I shell out the bucks for a card with similar capabilities, eg. tv - tv recording, video capture, etc., maybe someone here knows a resource I could investigate. Failing that, what card(s) would fill the bill? Thanks, Curt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Sound trouble, again, plus joystick
I've posted extensive messages and a mini-howto on getting the SBLive working, on this list... Since I do not feel like retyping the long posts again, please search the Archives. I detail how to get EVERYTHING (except the Live drive, although you'll even find this in the search) working... Joystick, Midi, SoundFonts, etc. One note, DISABLE your motherboard's sound and joystick port first... -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 7:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Sound trouble, again, plus joystick I've got a Soundblaster Live card, plus an integrated i810 sound chip. I'm using the SB exclusively - I don't want to have anything to do with the latter. The sound configuration on my system, which never worked adequately to start with ( =midi nonfunctional), has gone from bad to worse. One day when I started up the system, Linux decided suddenly to detect the i810 to which it had until then paid no attention. Now the situation is that whenever I start up the system I have to run sndconfig to get _any_ sound at all out. The configure functionality in HardDrake can't do anything at all about it: when it tries to play an 8 bit sample with the i810, I get 'sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Permission denied' (and no sound), and when it tries the same thing for SBLive, I get no errors, nor sound. Now, I'm absolutely losing patience with this PoS. Could someone advice me how to get things in working order? It would be absolutely wonderful to get instructions on how to remove _everything_ related to sound and then reinstall the drivers/whatevers _correctly_ from scratch. Also, I can't figure out how to get my joystick detected. It's an old-fashioned non-USB affair (a Gravis with a rudder wheel), and I have two joy ports to spare, one in the motherboard, one in the SB card. +Cinquo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HSE sympatico DSL
On Friday 14 December 2001 09:47 pm, Vicious Diablo wrote: I just wanna know, before I install Linux, can i connect to teh internet with my HSE DSL modem from Bell Canada (Quebec)? _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Yes, you can for almost all external modems. Some internal modems are windows-only, and the Alcatel Speed-Touch USB modem requires proprietary software which is available in the commercial Mandrake boxed sets. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO issues with 2 hard drives.
Ivan Offalich wrote: At 12:00 AM 12/18/01 +0200, Onur Kucuk wrote: May you add the following disk=/dev/hda bios=0x80 disk=/dev/hdb bios=0x81 disk=/dev/hdc bios=0x82 disk=/dev/hdd bios=0x83 snip You were right about adding the Octal addresses. (That is Octal, isn't it?) (I love it when I (think) I know something:) No, that's not octal, it's hex. Octal would not have an 8 in it -- only 0 thru 7.) Randy Kramer The first one you had me try (the one above setting all 4 devices) was apparently the correct one as it worked right away with no errors. I did a lilo -t to test it out and got no errors, so I then committed it and restarted the system, and my LILO menu was back where it belonged. Thank you very much for your help and your explanation into how LILO works and thank you to the other people that helped me to sort this out. Ivan. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I have HAD IT!!!!!
On Monday 17 December 2001 11:31, you wrote: When is this damn useless compiler going to work? I have Mdk 8.1 and the default compiler is useless, 2.96 is a piece of trash, so I took it off and put on gcc3, again TRASH, so I try to put on 2.95 and all it can give me is the same bullshit over and over WHEN IS THIS STUPID ASS THING going to WORK?? I am very coselgjyuh to going back to readhat. fuc, the typos i'm pissed off snip --- don't feed da Trolls!! - ;) -- No man is useless who has a friend, and if we are loved we are indispensable. -- Robert Louis Stevenson --- 6:15pm up 1:31, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.04, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I can't take it anymore
and promise that you have (as root, in a text console, without X running, and without the quotes) typed sndconfig On Monday 17 December 2001 16:19, you wrote: At 12:38 PM 12/17/2001 -0600, Newbie wrote: I guess I'm too neurologically crippled to figure things out myself well damn it, I need more help with that than other people. sorry did not know other way to express it. Don't be too down on yourself. No one person knows everything. Have you asked your questions in [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Someone somewhere has an answer. Unfortuneatly, it make take a month or so to find that person. I'd suggest paying for tech support but you might end up waiting a long time for an answer from paid tech support also. I don't know what other linux OS has sound, suse don't got it, debian don't have it, I'm not going to bust my butt fucking around in some stupid-ass goddamn config file buried under 10,000 feet of shit just to get my damn sound working!!! Have you checked the hardware compatibility list? If it's not supported, throw it away get one that is. I had to do that with a video card. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mount Nautilus
When I mount a cdrom device in Gnome, Nautilus starts... I can I disable this feature? Thanks, Corrado Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Classes.zip for Java?
hi, i think i remember that classes.zip used to hold all the sun classes but was replaced by tools.jar in jdk1.2.x and up. try installing jdk/jre 1.1.x or maybe the bundled kaffe java interpreter will suffice. ciao! On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 17:22:02 +0100 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am trying to get the Java ICQ client to work. It keeps dying on that it can't find a file called classes.zip. I got several SDK's and JRE's from java.sun.com but none of them contain that file. Does anyone have a clue what I should do/install to get that going? Thanks Paul -- Programming, an artform that fights back. === Anuerin G. Diaz Design Engineer 25/F Equitable-PCI Tower ADB Ave. cor. Poveda St., Ortigas Center, Pasig City, Philippines 1605 Tel no: (632) 6383070 loc 75 === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Mandrake come from RedHat?
I have installed Mandrake 8.1 in a few machines. I am using extended operating system loader(XOSL) which is free and also comes with ranish partition manager t partition your HDDs. I have installed lilo(linux boot loader) in the corresponding linux partition. I have winme, RH7.1, Caldera Openlinux and Mandrake 8.1. Out of all Mandrake is the best. I don't say this just I belong to this list. I am in many other linux lists too. Install Mandrake 8.1 in expert mode. You will get option what to install lilo or grub and where to install MBR or its own partition. On Monday 17 December 2001 20:46, Julian Opificius wrote: Just to offer a contrasting and virtually worthless opinion here ... I'm not sure about the slicker install or souped up. I lost Windows installs on two of my machines (Win98 and Win2000) because Mandrake 8.1's installer trashed my partition tables without giving me a way out, so I went back to Red Hat 7.2 and had a much better install experience. I use System Commander 7 as a boot manager, but Mandrake's installer wouldn't support writing the boot code on the Linux boot partition for another boot manager to pick up, it absolutely insisted on writing it's boot block to the MBR, which is not polite, and more to the point, is not compatible with System Commander. I'll try Mandrake again this week, because many people have a very high opinion (I'm still subscribed to this list, obviously). If someone does know how to instruct Mandrake's installer to put it's boot block on /boot (folks seem to call this a superblock, apparently), please tell me - I'd really like to give Mandrake a run - but please don't tell me to trash System Commander: I've paid for it, I like it, and it's friendly to my family users, who don't want to have to learn anything else :-) Thanks all ! Julian == At 09:21 AM 12/17/01 -0600, you wrote: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake come from RedHat? Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:20:17 -0600 From: David McGlone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] being an X-red hat user, I think Mandrake still runs and feels like Red Hat. It still handles like RH, it still uses a lot of files RH does and the convention RH does. to me it's clearly a souped up RH version with a different name. David M. On Monday 17 December 2001 07:02 am, you wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:06:00 -0500 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away Mandrake was once loosely based on the RedHat distro...it is no longer the case. Mandrake is clearly Mandrake.-- daRcmaTTeR I think at one time Mandrake was more than loosely based on RH. Back in the 5.x days, I believe it was virtually RH w/ a slicker install and KDE 1.x as a default desktop. You are quite correct that it is now a fully independent (with some similarities, and still rpm based) distro all it's own. Mike Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux user No.205042 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Mandrake come from RedHat?
Whether it is SUSE or RH or Mandrake, When you remove an RPM, dependencies checking is a must. Otherwise some other programs may not work. It is not specific to a distro. Some rpms may not have dependencies. Remove the same rpm in any distro and see. On Monday 17 December 2001 22:13, David McGlone wrote: well same thing happened to me, I lost all my backed up data that was on 3 seperate ext2 partitions and 3 seperate partitions that I had windows installs on (mostly games) and I never told mandrakes partition tool to even touch them partitions. when I booted after my first install which I installed over a SuSE install I got a kernel panic, I wondered why such a thing happened, so I put the mandrake disk back in and when I got to the partitioning tool, it showed no partitions at all, they were all gone, it wiped out virtually everything except hda1. Well I proceeded to partition and finally install mandrake, I started to use it and it seemed to be a nice OS until the time came that I wanted to remove some rpm's and install different ones, and all I got was dependency problems left and right. I tried and tried every way I know, but it seems that when I wanted to remove 1 RPM from Mandrake, it wanted to remove the whole Operating System. At this point, I totally gave up, stuck my SuSE install Disk in and went back to SuSE. The way I see all this is, with Mandrake, you don't have much freedom. If I cannot remove an rpm and install the .tar file instead, then I think Mandrake is heading to Redmond. just my $.02 David M. AIM: dmclgone27 ICQ: 96210352 On Monday 17 December 2001 09:16 am, you wrote: Just to offer a contrasting and virtually worthless opinion here ... I'm not sure about the slicker install or souped up. I lost Windows installs on two of my machines (Win98 and Win2000) because Mandrake 8.1's installer trashed my partition tables without giving me a way out, so I went back to Red Hat 7.2 and had a much better install experience. I use System Commander 7 as a boot manager, but Mandrake's installer wouldn't support writing the boot code on the Linux boot partition for another boot manager to pick up, it absolutely insisted on writing it's boot block to the MBR, which is not polite, and more to the point, is not compatible with System Commander. I'll try Mandrake again this week, because many people have a very high opinion (I'm still subscribed to this list, obviously). If someone does know how to instruct Mandrake's installer to put it's boot block on /boot (folks seem to call this a superblock, apparently), please tell me - I'd really like to give Mandrake a run - but please don't tell me to trash System Commander: I've paid for it, I like it, and it's friendly to my family users, who don't want to have to learn anything else :-) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux user No.205042 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Capture Suggestions Sought
see www.vcdhelp.com You need a video capture card. Normally all TV tune cards are having capture facilities. You should capture in .avi format and convert them to .mpg format using encoders and then convert them to VCD format. I have captured using my Pixel view Play TVPro tvtuner card using streamer that came with xawtv. However foe encoding I used tmpegenc in windows and used VCDimager to convert and write to CDR. Though I have done this in windows it can be done in LINUX with linux version. On Tuesday 18 December 2001 05:29, Bryan Tyson wrote: I have quite a bit of analog video footage (i.e. standard VHS videocassettes) that I am interested in capturing and outputting into some kind of vcd format. From what I read, it is possible to put video onto a standard (non-DVD) CD-R in a format that can be played by most DVD players. If anyone has successfully done something like this in Linux, I would be grateful to hear of what hardware/software you used and what steps you followed. Thanks. *** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.2 Professional KDE 2.1.2 KMail 1.2 Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux user No.205042 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I have HAD IT!!!!!
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Newbie wrote: When is this damn useless compiler going to work? I have Mdk 8.1 and the default compiler is useless, 2.96 is a piece of trash, so I took it off and put on gcc3, again TRASH, so I try to put on 2.95 and all it can give me is the same bullshit over and over WHEN IS THIS STUPID ASS THING going to WORK?? I am very coselgjyuh to going back to readhat. fuc, the typos i'm pissed off I don't know wtf you are talking about I use 2.96 and have compiled many kernels, many applications from source (including the infamous mplayer that says 2.96 is crap, which is funny because mplayer compiled w/o a hitch and works fine) and have never had a problem whatsoever. So wtf gives you the right to blame mandrake. That's bullshit. Go back to RedHat, at least we won't have to hear your petty rantings and blaming mandrake. Then you can blame RedHat for your problems and since RH 7.x there has been many problems. Never jump to conclusions or blame the distribution. Just say a few curse words and move on. And by the way I have upgraded all of the stuff you listed with an rpm -Uvh of all the rpms needed at once. Maybe you need glasses or need to be tought how to use the man command. -- . --- |o_o | |:_/ | Give Micro$oft the Bird // \ \ Use Linux (| | ) /'\_ _/`\ \___)=(___/ Chad Young Registered Linux User #195191 @ http://counter.li.org --- Linux localhost 2.4.17-rc1 #5 Thu Dec 13 18:25:16 AST 2001 i686 unknown 6:45pm up 3:38, 5 users, load average: 0.02, 0.03, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I have HAD IT!!!!!
In a message dated 12/17/01 11:45:00 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: lets remember something here. it's the famous 80/15/5 % rule. 80% of computer problems are user 15% are software and... 5% are hardware problems. I know that that isn't something you want to hear at the moment given the fact that you're REALLY pissed and I don't blame you for the way you feel. However, perspective is incredibly important at moments like this. And it Ain't Mandrake's distro that is the problem nor the compiler that comes with the distro. i totally agree. there is just one problem with this however. what is that you ask? it's the 15% and 5%. as a tech myself i always blame the user. every time someone ask a question on this list, the people on the list blame the user. the problem with the issue being the user 80% of the time is that 20% of the time its something else. i'd like everyone to try thinking about that. i tried for the 7th time in install 8.1 on my second computer. i used the same CDs which installed perfectly on my first computer the first time. 7th attempt -- and still locked up halfway thru the install and i had to reboot. thank god for 7.2 everyone repeat after me 20% of the time it's NOT the user 20% of the time it's NOT the user 20% of the time it's NOT the user 20% of the time it's NOT the user 20% of the time it's NOT the user Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mount Nautilus
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:59:54 +0100 Smiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I mount a cdrom device in Gnome, Nautilus starts... I can I disable this feature? == Are you mounting from a command line?? How are you giving the mount command? Mike -- Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life. -- George Bernard Shaw _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
