[newbie-it] orcad

2002-07-07 Thread Martina

Sono intenzionata a migrare totalmente da windows a linux però ho un
piccolo problema :
devo assolutamente usare l'orcad!
Come posso fare?
Ho sentito parlare di emulatori per programmi win potete indicarmi un
link dove posso verificare se sono compatibili con il programma?
Vi ringrazio 

Martina






[newbie-it] Finalmente kde3.0.2

2002-07-07 Thread elio

Finalmente con kde3.0.2 hanno risolto dei problemi che avevo con la stampa e 
la visualizzazione di alcuni plugin.
Grazie




Re: [newbie-it] citiam citiam citiamo .. :P [was: Microsoft (perRoberto)]

2002-07-07 Thread LukenShiro

In un altro luogo e in un altro tempo, Roberto esclamo':
 Non era più semplice correggermi in questo modo senza leggermi la vita?

 AHH !!!
 Visto che e' diverso tempo che non cazzio amaramente qualcuno ;P, ne
approfitto subito, ora che le acque si sono calmate e la 'boutade' (mi
si acconsenta) un tantino simil-para-trolleggiante (in cui
_consapevolmente_ ho deciso di non intervenire) si e' assopita ;)

 Se rileggi il tuo ultimo messaggio noterai due cose, che balzano
subito alla vista:
 1) hai citato il messaggio precedente di miKe riportandone ben una
170-ina circa di righe;
 2) hai citato quel messaggio riportandolo in coda alla tua mail.

 In base alle vigenti regole di netiquette (contenute in documenti
ufficiali di R.F.C., mai abbastanza pubblicizzati, ma il cui precetto e'
universalmente accolto nel contesto informatico-telematico come usi
giuridicamente vincolanti, anche perche' spesso richiamati tra l'altro
nei contratti di fornitura di accesso internet stilati dagli ISP), e'
previsto, tra le altre cose:
 a) che la citazione del messaggio a cui si risponde sia limitata al
minimo indispensabile per far comprendere l'argomento e il significato
della risposta stessa ed eventuali riferimenti sottintesi, e in ogni
caso _NON_ sia integrale;
 b) che la citazione di cui al punto a) sia collocata _PRIMA_ della
risposta, in modo da permette a chiunque di comprendere con immediatezza
il senso del discorso.
 Prevenendo una astrattamente possibile quanto forse remota obiezione,
in relazione al punto b) mi pregio di fare rispettosamente notare che,
anche se certi c.d. programmi per la lettura delle email (per
discutibili scelte dei loro fautori) non si conformano agli standard
ufficiali, non significa automaticamente che questi ultimi abbiano
cessato di avere valore (nel senso che l'aumentata diffusione tra la
gente di un comportamento illecito non porta a trasformarlo magicamente in
consentito, ne' di certo lo giustifica.)

Per concludere consiglio una visitina (cosi' ti fai due risate e in piu'
pedagogiche) ad un sito carino e tragicamente scherzoso :P (segnalato
qui tempo fa dal buon Andrea Celli):
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9704/galareteo.html

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Re: [newbie-it] stampante raw?

2002-07-07 Thread freefred

On Sunday 07 July 2002 07:22, Martina, talkin' about [newbie-it] stampante 
raw? wrote:
 Che cosa significa far diventare una stampante raw? Mi è apparso sto
 termine quando ho cercato di controllare il livello dell'inchiostro
 mediante l'utility di controllo che hanno le stampanti epson. Volevo
 sapere quali sono le conseguenze reali poi nella stampa.

sperando che tu comprenda un po' l'inglese:

-r, --raw-device device
Specify the name of the device to write to directly rather than
going  through  a printer queue. You must use this (rather than
specifying a printer) when retrieving ink levels or identifying
the  printer,  or if you wish to perform head alignment without
specifying the printer model.

questo dal man di ESCPUTIL, che direi sia il programma che vuoi usare.

ma non fai diventare una stampante raw,
la fai identificare dall'utility tramite il raw device, ovvero il device 
fisico, probabilmente /dev/lp0 (che sta per local printer, 0 e' la prima 
stampante) invece che col nome (tipo Epson, miastampante ecc.) che
di solito usano i server di stampa.
L'alias della stampante lo vedi dall' etc/printcap.

In pratica quando lanci escputil 
devi lanciarlo come
escputil -r /dev/lp0 -a (se per es. vuoi allineare le testine)

probabile tu debba farlo da root, perche' solo root avra'
permessi totali sul raw device.
(Attempting to detect printer model...
Cannot open /dev/lp0 read/write: Permission denied,
questo il msg che da' a me se provo a farlo da utente)

bye

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Re: [newbie-it] stampante raw?

2002-07-07 Thread Martina

Il dom, 2002-07-07 alle 20:31, freefred ha scritto:

 
 questo dal man di ESCPUTIL, che direi sia il programma che vuoi usare.
 
 ma non fai diventare una stampante raw,
 la fai identificare dall'utility tramite il raw device, ovvero il device 
 fisico, probabilmente /dev/lp0 (che sta per local printer, 0 e' la prima 
 stampante) invece che col nome (tipo Epson, miastampante ecc.) che
 di solito usano i server di stampa.
 L'alias della stampante lo vedi dall' etc/printcap.
 
Volevo solo capire se questo potrebbe influire poi sulla stampa nel
senso se poi cups hai dei problemi oppure potrei incorrere in errori non
risolvibili (visto la mia cultura informatica pressochè =0) ecc

 In pratica quando lanci escputil 
 devi lanciarlo come
 escputil -r /dev/lp0 -a (se per es. vuoi allineare le testine)
 
 probabile tu debba farlo da root, perche' solo root avra'
 permessi totali sul raw device.
 (Attempting to detect printer model...
 Cannot open /dev/lp0 read/write: Permission denied,
 questo il msg che da' a me se provo a farlo da utente)
 

Questo l'avevo letto grazie

Ciao Martina





Re: [newbie-it] Microsoft (per Roberto)

2002-07-07 Thread Roberto



Ok ragazzi grazie per le precisazioni e se ho fatto 
un pò di casini mi cospargo il capo di cenere.
Ciao e grazie


Re: [newbie-it] Konqueror e floppy

2002-07-07 Thread arwan

Alle 18:37, sabato 6 luglio 2002, contorcendoti la mente su [newbie-it] 
Konqueror e floppy, caro Marco Forti hai scritto: 

 Cercando di copiare dei files da hard disk a floppy usando konqueror il
 sistema si blocca sempre! (unica soluzione .. spegnere e riaccendere).

 A qualcuno di voi è successo?

ECCOMI!!!

(e te pareva...)

Capita anche a me, ma non ho fatto molti esperimenti, ho solo provato da 
Konqueror, montando il floppy da shell.

-- 
Arwan





[newbie-it] Kernel

2002-07-07 Thread Roberto

qualcuno può darmi 2 informazioni sull'aggiornamento del kernel?
Si tratta di una procedura davvero utile o meno?
X può avere dei problemi dopo l'aggiornamento del kernel?
Grazie





Re: [newbie-it] Konqueror e floppy

2002-07-07 Thread Fabio Manunza

Alle 18:37, sabato 6 luglio 2002, hai scritto:
 Cercando di copiare dei files da hard disk a floppy usando konqueror il
 sistema si blocca sempre! (unica soluzione .. spegnere e riaccendere).
 L'ho scoperto casualmente dopo aver aggiornato a kde3.0.2 (però, usando
 prevalentemente la console non so dire se prima funzionasse oppure no)
 Siccome questo problema non sussiste da linea di comando dubito si tratti
 di /etc/fstab

 Qualche suggerimento (a parte quello di usare la console ... )?
 A qualcuno di voi è successo?

Stranissimo, è successo anche a me (kde 2.2), oggi, dopo che per tutto questo 
tempo non ho riscontrato alcun problema.; ho tentato per tre volte, 
inutilmente, di copiare tre file di OOo su floppy (la mia tesi, guarda un 
po'..); e per tre volte  linuccio è andato in crash!!
Poi così come è comparso, l'inghippo è sparito..boh!?
Tempesta magnetica? Macumba di zio Bill? mah..

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Re: [newbie-it] orcad

2002-07-07 Thread miKe

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Il 13:34, domenica 7 luglio 2002, in merito a [newbie-it] orcad, Martina ha scritto:
 Sono intenzionata a migrare totalmente da windows a linux
 però ho un piccolo problema :
 devo assolutamente usare l'orcad!

purtroppo DIA non lo raggiunge neppure, e qcad non ha le librerie per i circuiti 

 Come posso fare?
 Ho sentito parlare di emulatori per programmi win potete
 indicarmi un link dove posso verificare se sono
 compatibili con il programma? Vi ringrazio


sul sito di wine, c'è la lista dei programmi emulati,
poi una ricerca su google
con 'orcad wine' come parole chiave, se hai fortuna, dovrebbe farti trovare qualcuno 
che ha risolto..

..cosidera che se il tuo orcad non è recentissimo, dovrebbe già andare bene,
altrimenti ci vorrà un pò prima che wine riesca a farlo girare decentemente (non 
parliamo di emulazione plz)


in ogni caso, una prova puoi farla, scarica i sorgenti (è meglio) dell'ultimo wine, 
compilalo e (se hai problemi con la conf. 'chiama') prova a farci girare l'orcad che 
hai già installato.. 
..vediamo un pò


 Martina


bye

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Re: [newbie-it] Kernel

2002-07-07 Thread Giuseppe Ferruzzi





   miKe wrote:
 
   
  
è utile, se il nuovo kernel risolve dei problemi del vecchi
ad esempio se supporta nuovi dispositivi, o supera dei 
problemi nella gestione del disco, o della memoria (es, il 
2.4.11 è stato immediatamente ritirato per problemi di 
corruzione del FS, i primi 2.4 usavano male la memoria 
virtuale, ecc.
 
 
 Personalmente ho notato che sebbene i kernel delle varie distribuzioni 
 abbiano la stessa versione non è detto che poi supportano l'hardware
 alla stessa maniera. Per esempio io ho provato la mdk 8.1 e con il kernel
 2.4.8 non mi gestiva tutta la memoria RAM (1,024 GB) ma solo 900MB
 che  ho verificato anche da riga di comando. 
 Con SuSE 7.3  con kernel 2.4.10  invece la gestiva tutta.
 Allora presi la mdk 8.2 che con il kernel 2.4.18 pensavo risolvesse il problema
 della 8.1 invece niente da fare. Anche la Redhat 7.3 che ha la 2.4.18 
 la gestisce tutta.  Solo mdk no.
 Come si spiega questo fatto  ?
 
 Saluti da Giuseppe.
 




[newbie-it] Domanda su RedHat per Roberto

2002-07-07 Thread Giuseppe Ferruzzi

  Ciao Roberto so che hai gia avuto modo di provare la Redhat 7.3 e 
volevo chiederti
se questa versione che tu hai usato era la originale della distribuzione.
Se si, mi puoi dire se hai provato diskdruid e se questo funziona solo 
in lettura ?
Ci tengo molto sapere questo perchè nella mia versione che presi dalla 
rivista
 internet news funziona appunto solo in lettura e non mi permette di usarlo.
DiskDruid di RedHat l'ho potuto utilizzare e apprezzare solo nella fase 
d' intallazione
del sistema operativo.





Re: [newbie-it] Kernel

2002-07-07 Thread Fabio Manunza

Alle 15:57, domenica 7 luglio 2002, hai scritto:
 qualcuno può darmi 2 informazioni sull'aggiornamento del kernel?
 Si tratta di una procedura davvero utile o meno?
 X può avere dei problemi dopo l'aggiornamento del kernel?
 Grazie

Da quanto ho capito hai una mdk8.2, che gira con un kernel patchato 
(modificato) 2.4.18. Attualmente il kernel più recente è il 2.4.19, per cui 
non vedo la necessità, a meno che le novità non interessino specifiche del 
tuo hardware per te basilari, di un aggiornamento. Piuttosto potrebbe esserti 
utile modifcare il kernel che attualmente usi per adattarlo alla macchina su 
cui gira, ed ovviamente alle tue esigenze. Può essere un utile esercizio per 
approfondire la tua conoscenza sul sistema e sul suo funzionamento.
Per le procedure, ti rimando agli esaustivi How-To, disponibili sulla tua 
distribuzione.
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Re: [newbie-it] kde3

2002-07-07 Thread arwan

Alle 19:32, sabato 6 luglio 2002, contorcendoti la mente su Re: [newbie-it] 
kde3, caro miKe hai scritto: 

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 Il 20:08, giovedì 4 luglio 2002, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] kde3, arwan ha 
scritto:
  E' tanto grosso da scaricare? Oppure e' piu' comodo
  aspettarlo in qualche rivista?

 ti rispondo di nuovo ho riesumato qualcosa che potrebbe esserti utile, se
 hai la pazienza per scaricare tutto..

Porco cane... ma qui c'e' solo l'imbarazzo della scelta!
E io che pensavo (per ora) al solo kmail... :-)

Grazie!

-- 
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Tu che tutti i giorni mi sorprendi, con un messaggio destabilizzante.
Tu che non conosci me, chi sono io e dove vado, e non te ne frega niente.
Ma per me non e' importante, perche' quando siamo soli
devo ammettere sei grande, sei come un gigante...
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Re: [newbie-it] Domanda su RedHat per Roberto

2002-07-07 Thread Roberto

mi puoi dire se hai provato diskdruid e se questo funziona solo in lettura ?

Ho anch'io trovato i 3 cd della distribuzione su una rivista e purtroppo ho
utilizzato anch'io disk druid solo in fase di installazione del s.o.
Non ho tenuto molto la red hat (mi sembrava meglio la mandrake) per cui non
ti posso aiutare più di tanto.
Ma hai provato a fare girare disk druid come utente root?
Mi spiace ma come ormai avrete capito benissimo tutti di linux me ne capisco
abbastanza poco.
Sorry...






Re[2]: [newbie-it] Microsoft (per Roberto) scusate risposta lunga...

2002-07-07 Thread Osoloco

Hello Roberto,

Saturday, July 06, 2002, 5:07:50 PM, you wrote:

R Ok ok, avrò sbagliato termine ma non credo sia il caso di incavolarsi in
R questa maniera, sono qui per imparare e
R se sbaglio ti prego di correggermi senza fare tanto lo sborone...


Premetto che quanto sto per scrivere e' una seplice esposizione del
mio pensiero e non una flame, per cui niente incavolature e niente
insulti please ;-)

Purtroppo non ho sottomano il sito dove trovarlo, ma ti cnsiglio di
cercare in rete il manifesto hacker, ne esiste anche una copia in
italiano, giusto per capire quello che si intende quando si parla di
hacker, a prescindere dalla spazzatura associata al termine dai mass
media che usano la parola perche' suona bene e perche' c'e' un film
con questo titolo, ma col cavolo che sanno da dove viene

Lascia che ti racconti una storia di hackers:
tanto tempo fa in una universita' americana fu sviluppato uno dei
primi videogiochi al mondo: Asteroids. Era un programmino fatto da uno
studente che girava su l'elaboratore dell'universita', non vi era
tastiera per dare comandi ma solo un pannello con degli interuttori.
Il gioco consisteva in una astronavina fatta con pochi caratteri che
doveva evitare di essere distrutta da un gruppo di asteroidi.
Divenne un passatempo popolare tra gli studenti del laboratorio di
informatica, e molti vollero sapere come era stato realizzato.
Lo studente che aveva scritto il programma mise a disposizione di
tutti il listato permettendo a chi avessa avuto voglia di farne delle
modifiche.
Cosi' molti vi misero le mani, e alcuni aggiunsero particolari
complessi (come ad esempio l'aggiunta di un sole che esercitava
attrazione gravitazionale sia sullìastronavina sia sugli asteroidi,
che non avevano piu un moto puraente lineare..)
Be' quelle persone furono i pionieri del movimento hacker

Io penso che voglio sapere e capire come funziona sia il software che
l'hardware che uso, perche' nego il principio per cui la conoscenza
deva essere di pochi, sono un newbie e non so (ancora) forzare un
sistema, ma mi sento un hacker, e il desiderio di sapere come
proteggere la macchina su cui lavoro dai cracker (questo il termine
peri i pirati) mi portera' per forza a conoscere come attaccare quello
che voglio difendere.

Il figlio del mio capo un giorno ha copiato da qualche sito uno script
che se mandato in allegato di posta a outlook faceva reboottare il
sistema, il mio capo mi ha chiesto il mio indirizzo mail di casa e lo
ha dato a suo figlio erche' voleva farmi vedere quanto era bravo il
pupo...
Il giorno dopo e' arrivato tutto soddisfatto in ufficio chiedendomi se
avevo visto che bravo hacker fosse suo figlio
La mia risposta non gli e' piaciuta molto:
a) a casa non uso outlook per cui ha funzionato
b) il figlio era solo un lamer, usava qualcosa per danneggiare senza
nemmeno chiedersi come funzionasse.
c) se suo figlio continuava a mandare questi giochetti tramite il
suo indirizzo mail molto presto avrebbe dovuto spiegarlo alla polizia
postale quanto era bravo.

Il fatto e' che troppo spesso le parole vengono spese senza la
conoscenza del significato, per poi stupirsi della difficolt' di
comprensione con gli altri...

Chiedo scusa per la logorria

W gli hacker !!
abbasso i lamer, i cracker, e gli stronzi in generale


P.S.: essendo piu' volte presente la parola chiave hacker questa mail
e tutte quelle che ne conterranno quotatura saranno controllate dai
programmini del FBI e NSA,  meditate gente, meditate.






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Re: [newbie-it] citiam citiam citiamo .. :P [was: Microsoft (per Roberto)]

2002-07-07 Thread Roberto

MAGARI, nel frattempo, configurando il suo outlook per fare i reply in
maniera 'potabile'

Vorrei usare anch'io linux per mandare e ricevere le  e-mail ma non riesco a
configurare il modem del cavolo che mi ritrovo!!!
Il mio modem viene visto da windows xp, grazie a un driver che neanch'io so
più bene dove sono andato a prendere, come 'smart usb 56 voice modem' su
com3
(avevo un robotics ma si era bruciato e avevo preso sta
ciofeca...).Fisicamente si presenta come un piccolo ovale bianco che si
collega tramite cavo usb al pc.
L'amico hard drake lo vede come sgs thomson microelectronics 56k soft modem
ma poi usb view me lo da come unknown device...
Ho provato un pò di tutto ma linux non lo vede proprio...Qualche consiglio?
Eventualmente mi potete consiglòiare un bel v92 che sia compatibile sia con
xp che con linux?
Grazie







Re: [newbie-it] Domanda su RedHat per Roberto

2002-07-07 Thread Giuseppe Ferruzzi

Roberto wrote:

mi puoi dire se hai provato diskdruid e se questo funziona solo in lettura ?

Ho anch'io trovato i 3 cd della distribuzione su una rivista e purtroppo ho
utilizzato anch'io disk druid solo in fase di installazione del s.o.
Non ho tenuto molto la red hat (mi sembrava meglio la mandrake) per cui non
ti posso aiutare più di tanto.
Ma hai provato a fare girare disk druid come utente root?
Mi spiace ma come ormai avrete capito benissimo tutti di linux me ne capisco
abbastanza poco.
Sorry...
  


Ok, diskdruid lo trovo in hardware browser dove si entra solo come root
e diskdruid viene chiamato diskwiev mi pare, ma l'interfaccia grafica è 
la stessa solo che non ci sono
i pulsanti di comando.
Per Linux non ti preoccupare, che non sei il solo ma, si impara a poco a 
poco.

Saluti da Giuseppe.





Re: [newbie-it] filtri KDE

2002-07-07 Thread LukenShiro

In un altro luogo e in un altro tempo, arwan esclamo':
 Ma come cavolo si fa a creare un filtro sulla data dei messaggi???

Dato che non uso piu' kmail ho fatto qualche prova copiando qualche mail
stivata, e buttando la' qualche filtro.

Domanda: Ma dopo aver messo la regola (periodo in giorni - num.giorni)
hai selezionato l'azione che desideri?

Es. tutte le corrispondenze - con periodo in giorni - maggiore o uguale
a - 10 - sposta in - bozze [e' abbastanza auto-esplicativo, direi]
 * Attenzione ai segni di spunta dove servono (msg in arrivo e in caso
di filtraggio manuale)
 * Applica e OK
Se devi applicare i filtri a messaggi gia' scaricati, devi selezionare
tutti i messaggi della cartella interessata e _poi_ applicare i filtri.

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Re: [newbie-it] kde3

2002-07-07 Thread freefred

On Sunday 07 July 2002 12:01, arwan, talkin' about Re: [newbie-it] kde3 
wrote:

 Scusate il doppione della risposta, ma sono ancora frastornata... e
 inizio a chiarire le idee adesso.

  Scarica le librerie richieste:

 Queste sono *tutte* necessarie, giusto?

puoi, come faccio di solito io (ma alla fine
il tempo di connessione e' quasi uguale:-)
scaricare solo alcune parti, poi se vedi
che il kde non si installa, scaricare ed installare
il  resto.

 Se metto KDE3 i corrispondenti pacchetti del 2 non funziano piu', no? E
 quindi dovrei scaricare anche questi...

il kde3 si installa a parte, potresti (teoricamente
perche' a volte non e' cosi') lanciare il kde2 o il kde3,
a tua scelta.
Per quanto riguarda i pacchetti, dipende direi dalle Qt,
le librerie su cui si basa il kde.
Cioe', se vuoi un programma aggiornato
allora aggiornalo, ma i vecchi programmi basati sulle qt
del kde2 funzioneranno anche senza aggiornarli.
(questo perche' anche le QT si affiancano e non
si sovrappongono)

  hai una fotocamera digitale:
  gphoto2-2.0.tar.gz (http://www.gphoto.org/dist/)

 Ma non serve se non sfrutto gphoto per la digitale, no?

no

  vuoi il supporto LDAP per la rubrica di KDE:
  openldap-2.0.23.tgz (http://www.openldap.org/software/download/)

 Cos'e' il supporto LDAP?

Lightweight Directory Access Protocol

Although not yet widely implemented, LDAP should eventually make it 
possible for almost any application running on virtually any computer 
platform to obtain directory information, such as email addresses and 
public keys. Because LDAP is an open protocol, applications need not worry 
about the type of server hosting the directory.


  vuoi monitorare la tua MB:
  lm_sensors-2.6.3.tar.gz
  (http://www.netroedge.com/~lm78/download.html)

 E la MB, cos'e'?

MotherBoard (detta anche MoBo).
E' un programmetto (demone) per monitorare
la temperatura della cpu e cose di questo genere,
dipende anche da quali sensori ha la tua scheda madre.

  vuoi sfogliare la rete win$ con Konqueror:
  libsmb-cvs-dec1999.tar.gz (http://nicolas.brodu.free.fr/libsmb/)

 Solo in caso di rete, vero?

si'.


  hai finito, lancia startx  e godi!!

una cosa, il kde3 io lo lancio con
kde3
se do' startx, anche con l'.xinitrc,
mi lancia il 2.
per sicurezza, dai kde3.

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Re: [newbie-it] Kernel

2002-07-07 Thread miKe

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Il 18:40, domenica 7 luglio 2002, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] Kernel, Giuseppe 
Ferruzzi ha scritto:

 Personalmente ho notato che sebbene i kernel delle varie
 distribuzioni abbiano la stessa versione non è detto che
 poi supportano l'hardware alla stessa maniera. 

non è detto dipenda dal kernel, 
in alcuni casi (tipo kudzu) è il roconoscimento 'automatico' dei dispositivi, che può 
andare a farfalle


 Per
 esempio io ho provato la mdk 8.1 e con il kernel 2.4.8
 non mi gestiva tutta la memoria RAM (1,024 GB) ma solo
 900MB che  ho verificato anche da riga di comando.
 Con SuSE 7.3  con kernel 2.4.10  invece la gestiva tutta.
 Allora presi la mdk 8.2 che con il kernel 2.4.18 pensavo
 risolvesse il problema


mmm
io ho un serverino (non in casa..:)
con 1024 Mb di ram, e già con il 2.4.5 non avevo problemi
questa del mancato riconoscimento della ram, mi pare strana



 della 8.1 invece niente da fare. Anche la Redhat 7.3 che
 ha la 2.4.18 la gestisce tutta.  Solo mdk no.
 Come si spiega questo fatto  ?

per gestisce, intendi che non la vede, o che  non la alloca?

se dai #free -m
o 
$ cat /proc/meminfo 
??


 Saluti da Giuseppe.


bye

miKe
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Re: [newbie-it] citiam citiam citiamo .. :P [was: Microsoft (perRoberto)]

2002-07-07 Thread LukenShiro

In un altro luogo e in un altro tempo, miKe esclamo':
 nel 99, sulla neonata ML di Linux  C, postò un tale Bertolini, o
 Bortolini.. dicendo che col suo NT 'debitamente configurato' entrava
 nelle macchine degli altri, su internet faceva meraviglie e aveva
 un'interfaccia grafica che noi con gnome 0.9 o kde 1.1 non ci
 sognavamo neanche...
 dopo un pò un altro simpaticone disse di aver risolto i problemi di
 stabilità di win$ andando a metter mano al codice (!!) di explorer
 rimuovendo chissà cosa...

Nel '99 mi pare di no (o meglio non posso ricordarmelo perche' ero a
militare e non ancora linuxiano ;)). Pero' tra la fine del 2000 e i
primi del 2001 (ero ancora lurker) mi ricordo molto bene un certo
Emanuele Bartolini, piuttosto recidivo in lista, che a volte andava a
braccetto con un certo Stefano Bolli, e in un'idillio poetico i due
virgulti sparavano una serie di puttanate tremende, sempre ovviamente
associate a quanto linux a priori facesse schifo per loro :-/
[ho una memoria di ferro nel ricordare i trollazzi ;P].

-- 
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Re: [newbie-it] citiam citiam citiamo .. :P [was: Microsoft (per Roberto)]

2002-07-07 Thread miKe

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Il 21:17, domenica 7 luglio 2002, in merito a Re: 
[newbie-it] citiam citiam citiamo .. :P [was: Microsoft 
(per Roberto)], Roberto ha scritto:


http://www.modem-help.co.uk/chips/identify.html
http://www.modemsite.com/56k/trouble.asp
http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/4563/2000/8/0/4231824/
http://www.modem-help.co.uk/chips/stmpegas.html


e, se non sbaglio:
http://www.modem-help.fsnet.co.uk/download/slmdm-usb-2.04-00_20mdk.i386.rpm




 Grazie


bye

miKe
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Re: [newbie] Controling monitor power management

2002-07-07 Thread Sevatio

Warren Post wrote:
 My monitor goes into power saving mode after 15 minutes of inactivity.
 This is not a window manager specific issue; it happens in all the wm's
 I'm playing with. I'd like to change that, but can't find the relevant
 command or tool.
 
 KDE has a control for this, but I'm not using KDE.
 
 TIA,
 Warren
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie]

2002-07-07 Thread Derek Jennings

On Sunday 07 Jul 2002 3:36 am, Tania Morell wrote:
 Hi,

 I bought a new laptop this week (myfirst) and installed mandrake 8.2 on
 it.  My netgear 401 wireless card is hot swappable so when I unplug/plug
 it in, I get a couple messages from cardmgr on console listing the
 manufacturer and model of the card..  but when I cat
 /var/lib/pcmcia/stab. It says both pcmcia slots are 'empty'.Man page
 states that a low pitch sound means cardmgr failed to load the driver,
 so I'm assuming the low pitch sound means it has failed?   Can anyone
 give me a couple quick tips for getting networking running on this
 thing?  Or point me in the right direction to some online info?  I've
 been searching for a couple hours with no luck.  =)

 Thanks guys,
 -T
Did you run the networking wizard in Mandrake Control Centre?  That will find 
and install most pcmcia wireless cards. It should prompt you for the wireless 
options. The ones that matter most are mode:(managed or unmanaged)  and 
encryption key: (format is s:ascii_text)

You can check operation of the wireless card with the console command iwconfig

You might also need to install the wireless-tools RPM

If you find the card forgets its configuration the second time you boot up 
just put the appropriate iwconfig statement in /etc/rc.local

HTH
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RE: [newbie] Apache DocumentRoot

2002-07-07 Thread Shannon

Thanks for the info, never really thought about looking at the
commonhttpd.conf file, however my problem still occurs...

I guess my question comes down to this

What are the permission/ownership requirements of DocumentRoot
directories???

Cheers,

Shannon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Todd Slater
Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2002 00:37
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Apache DocumentRoot


On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 00:12:26 +0930
Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi There people,
 
 I just installed Mandrake 8.2 onto my new server and as part of that
 install I installed the default Apache Server 
 Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer 1.3.23
 
 I have tried changing the default DocumentRoot setting to something
 other than /var/www however whenever I do this I always get a
Forbidden
 error when attempting to access the pages in the new DocumentRoot. I
 have played around by chmod'ing the new dir to increasingly higher
 levels of permissions however the error still appears.
 
 This not only applies to the default website on this server, but any
 Virtual Hosts that I Include in the httpd.conf file through the
Include
 tag give the same result.
 
 Can anyone shed some light as to how I would get a new DocumentRoot
 setting to function correctly.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Shannon 

Hmm, I put my virtual hosts info in /etc/httpd/conf/vhosts/Vhosts.conf,
and specify document root in /etc/httpd/conf/commonhttpd.conf.

What did you chmod your new root folder to?

Did you stop and restart httpd?

Could you access your site before you changed the root directory?

Todd

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education as it is practiced in most schools today and wonder that we
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Re: [newbie] System.map

2002-07-07 Thread tom brinkman

On Saturday 06 July 2002 09:22 pm, Damian G wrote:

 so, apparently, that system.map is not mandatory to make
 a kernel boot

I don't believe so. When you install a Mandrake pre-compiled 
kernel the rpm (use 'rpm -ivh' ) it creates the proper links in /boot 
for you, besides generating a new initrd and edit/run lilo to add the 
new kernel.  When I roll my own, I edit Makefile and change 
EXTRAVERSION = new_indentifier, but also I uncomment the line  
 # export  INSTALL_PATH=/boot   (ie, remove the # ).  Then a last 
command of 'make install'  in the compile proccess also will make the 
proper links in /boot, make initrd, edit/run lilo, etc. for you.

I use this /etc/bashrc alias to check,
   alias bootlinks='ll /boot/{initrd,vmlinuz,System.map}*'
Typing 'bootlinks' then, at least initrd and vmlinuz should point to 
the right kernels (the current active links will be color hi-lited).
My alias doesn't change anything, just displays the current state of 
important links in /boot. Until I boot the new kernel, the important 
links, initrd and vmlinuz point to the correct kernel(s), but 
System.map doesn't.  After rebooting to the new kernel, all three 
then correctly point to the right kernel for all installed kernels.
-- 
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Re: [newbie] Virii WAS I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?

2002-07-07 Thread tom brinkman

On Saturday 06 July 2002 10:40 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

 Wouldn't it be great if we could just drop English and speak
 Esperanto instead

 :)

   Or speak frog maybe?

For the why?  the answer is in the frogs.  An ordinary frog goes 
ribbit, ribbit and a budfrog goes bud ,,, Weis... Er, but a 
winfrog goes reboot, reboot, reboot

(shamelessly stolen by me from Civileme's post to another list ;)

   IMNSHO, it's viruses
-- 
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[newbie] rpm database

2002-07-07 Thread Moshe Kaminsky

Hi,

I tried installing some rpm packages (kde3) from the command line. It
failed on dependencies - seems that rpm thinks I have nothing installed!
I tried to run
  rpm --initdb
It didn't help. When I typed 
  rpm -qa
It showed nothing. the rpm program I use is the one that came with the
distribution (8.2).
I later installed these packages with the software manager, and it
worked. 
I guess that the software manager is just a front end to the same rpm,
so I probably have some problems with the parameters, but I have no idea
what it is. More generally, if I'm correct that these graphical tools
are just front end to command line tools, is it possible to make them
print what are the commands they perform?

Moshe



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Re: [newbie] Apache DocumentRoot

2002-07-07 Thread Todd Slater

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:45:52 +0930
Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for the info, never really thought about looking at the
 commonhttpd.conf file, however my problem still occurs...
 
 I guess my question comes down to this
 
 What are the permission/ownership requirements of DocumentRoot
 directories???
 
 Cheers,
 
 Shannon

I'm not sure the bare minimum, but 755 would work. Also, make sure you
don't have a firewall blocking your http port.

Todd


 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Todd Slater
 Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2002 00:37
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Apache DocumentRoot
 
 
 On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 00:12:26 +0930
 Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi There people,
  
  I just installed Mandrake 8.2 onto my new server and as part of that
  install I installed the default Apache Server 
  Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer 1.3.23
  
  I have tried changing the default DocumentRoot setting to something
  other than /var/www however whenever I do this I always get a
 Forbidden
  error when attempting to access the pages in the new DocumentRoot. I
  have played around by chmod'ing the new dir to increasingly higher
  levels of permissions however the error still appears.
  
  This not only applies to the default website on this server, but any
  Virtual Hosts that I Include in the httpd.conf file through the
 Include
  tag give the same result.
  
  Can anyone shed some light as to how I would get a new DocumentRoot
  setting to function correctly.
  
  Kind regards,
  
  Shannon 
 
 Hmm, I put my virtual hosts info in /etc/httpd/conf/vhosts/Vhosts.conf,
 and specify document root in /etc/httpd/conf/commonhttpd.conf.
 
 What did you chmod your new root folder to?
 
 Did you stop and restart httpd?
 
 Could you access your site before you changed the root directory?
 
 Todd



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RE: [newbie] Apache DocumentRoot

2002-07-07 Thread Michael Viron

Actually, in 8.2, you change the DocumentRoot Setting at the top of
/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf not commonhttpd.conf .

The next thing you have to do, is in commonhttpd.conf, you need to change
this set of lines:

#
# This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to.
#
Directory /var/www/html

#
# This may also be None, All, or any combination of Indexes,
# Includes, FollowSymLinks, ExecCGI, or MultiViews.
#
# Note that MultiViews must be named *explicitly* --- Options All
# doesn't give it to you.
#
Options -Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews

#
# This controls which options the .htaccess files in directories can
# override. Can also be All, or any combination of Options, FileInfo,
# AuthConfig, and Limit
#
AllowOverride All

#
# Controls who can get stuff from this server.
#
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory

If the directory does not have one of the following files (by default), you
will get an access forbidden error (since the default configuration
disallows directory browsing)

DirectoryIndex index.html index.php index.php3 index.shtml index.cgi
index.pl index.htm Default.htm default.htm

Of course, after making any changes you must restart apache (by doing
/etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd restart without the quotes)

These are all guesses as to what's causing the problem.  Since you've not
posted what's in your error_log file (in /var/log/httpd), it's difficult to
say whether it is a permissions problem or an apache configuration problem.

If you could send something to the list as to what is showing up in your
error_log file (a few lines, preferably), I'm sure you'll get much more
specific feedback as to what the problem is.

Michael
--
Michael Viron
Project Manager / Primary Developer / Online Operations Manager
General Education Online
http://www.findaschool.org/

At 08:45 PM 7/7/2002 +0930, you wrote:
Thanks for the info, never really thought about looking at the
commonhttpd.conf file, however my problem still occurs...

I guess my question comes down to this

What are the permission/ownership requirements of DocumentRoot
directories???

Cheers,

Shannon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Todd Slater
Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2002 00:37
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Apache DocumentRoot


On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 00:12:26 +0930
Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi There people,
 
 I just installed Mandrake 8.2 onto my new server and as part of that
 install I installed the default Apache Server 
 Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer 1.3.23
 
 I have tried changing the default DocumentRoot setting to something
 other than /var/www however whenever I do this I always get a
Forbidden
 error when attempting to access the pages in the new DocumentRoot. I
 have played around by chmod'ing the new dir to increasingly higher
 levels of permissions however the error still appears.
 
 This not only applies to the default website on this server, but any
 Virtual Hosts that I Include in the httpd.conf file through the
Include
 tag give the same result.
 
 Can anyone shed some light as to how I would get a new DocumentRoot
 setting to function correctly.
 
 Kind regards,

 Shannon 

Hmm, I put my virtual hosts info in /etc/httpd/conf/vhosts/Vhosts.conf,
and specify document root in /etc/httpd/conf/commonhttpd.conf.

What did you chmod your new root folder to?

Did you stop and restart httpd?

Could you access your site before you changed the root directory?

Todd

-- 
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education as it is practiced in most schools today and wonder that we
could have tolerated anything so primitive. (John W. Gardner)




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RE: [newbie]

2002-07-07 Thread Tania Morell

Thank you ver much..  unfortunately I haven't been able to get X running
on this laptop so I can't try anything that requires x.

Getting x to run will be todays challenge.  Thanks again.

-T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Derek Jennings
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 7:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie]

On Sunday 07 Jul 2002 3:36 am, Tania Morell wrote:
 Hi,

 I bought a new laptop this week (myfirst) and installed mandrake 8.2
on
 it.  My netgear 401 wireless card is hot swappable so when I
unplug/plug
 it in, I get a couple messages from cardmgr on console listing the
 manufacturer and model of the card..  but when I cat
 /var/lib/pcmcia/stab. It says both pcmcia slots are 'empty'.Man
page
 states that a low pitch sound means cardmgr failed to load the driver,
 so I'm assuming the low pitch sound means it has failed?   Can anyone
 give me a couple quick tips for getting networking running on this
 thing?  Or point me in the right direction to some online info?  I've
 been searching for a couple hours with no luck.  =)

 Thanks guys,
 -T
Did you run the networking wizard in Mandrake Control Centre?  That will
find 
and install most pcmcia wireless cards. It should prompt you for the
wireless 
options. The ones that matter most are mode:(managed or unmanaged)  and 
encryption key: (format is s:ascii_text)

You can check operation of the wireless card with the console command
iwconfig

You might also need to install the wireless-tools RPM

If you find the card forgets its configuration the second time you boot
up 
just put the appropriate iwconfig statement in /etc/rc.local

HTH
derek







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Re: [newbie] System.map

2002-07-07 Thread ai4a

tom brinkman wrote:
 
 On Saturday 06 July 2002 09:22 pm, Damian G wrote:
 
  so, apparently, that system.map is not mandatory to make
  a kernel boot
 
 I don't believe so. When you install a Mandrake pre-compiled
 kernel the rpm (use 'rpm -ivh' ) it creates the proper links in /boot
 for you, besides generating a new initrd and edit/run lilo to add the
 new kernel.  When I roll my own, I edit Makefile and change
 EXTRAVERSION = new_indentifier, but also I uncomment the line
  # export  INSTALL_PATH=/boot   (ie, remove the # ).  Then a last

In my Mandrake 8.2 the export INSTALL_PATH=/boot comes uncommentted.
No need to uncomment it.

 command of 'make install'  in the compile proccess also will make the
 proper links in /boot, make initrd, edit/run lilo, etc. for you.

My system does not run lilo during the 'make install' process. I must do
it myself. It does reconfig lilo.conf to add the new kernel.

 
 I use this /etc/bashrc alias to check,
alias bootlinks='ll /boot/{initrd,vmlinuz,System.map}*'
 Typing 'bootlinks' then, at least initrd and vmlinuz should point to
 the right kernels (the current active links will be color hi-lited).
 My alias doesn't change anything, just displays the current state of
 important links in /boot. Until I boot the new kernel, the important
 links, initrd and vmlinuz point to the correct kernel(s), but

On my system after I do the 'make install', neither 3 of the files
points to the current working kernel. They all point to the new kernel
that has not been rebooted yet. I think I must miss understand what you
are saying!!

 System.map doesn't.  After rebooting to the new kernel, all three
 then correctly point to the right kernel for all installed kernels.

On my system I can point System.map to a System.map that is totally
unrelated to the kernel that I boot and the system stills reboots 
operates correctly. I realize if the kernel 'oops' that the symbols in
the kernel will not resolve correctly, but 1.) I never have kernel
'oops': 2.) unless I could repeat the kernel 'oops' I don't care. If I
can repeat the kernel 'oops' then I could point System.map correctly. I
make no claim about knowing anything about how the System.map works.
Just on my system, System.map does not need to point to the correct
kernel for the system to boot.
 
 --
 Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas
 
   
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I except the fact you have vastly superior knowledge than I about linux.
Therefore I would welcome anymore insight in how to switch 'System.map'
to point to the correct booted kernel when switching among kernels.



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Re: [newbie] DEC Alpha Server

2002-07-07 Thread Frans Ketelaars

On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 07:03:17 +0100
Inhabitantofzion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 HI
 
 I recently was given by a business friend of mine one of the above a 3000R 
 (well I had to give him a small fee for a few beers).
 
 It is fully functioning and has the 500mhz Alpha processor on it and 2gb of 
 on board ram etc etc... does not have any SCSI HDD's with it.
 
 He says it can only run Win NT4  because they kludged the BIOS on these 
 machines. They have coded the BIOS to Win NT 4 only.
 
 Does anybody on here have an idea what they might have done to the BIOS 
 (How I find out what they have done) and what would I have to do to get 
 around what they have done?
 
 If somebody could get me started in the right direction that would help. I 
 really wanted to get Linux installed on it...
 
 John

I found this: http://www.linuxalpha.org/faq/alphabios-howto.html . HTH,

-Frans



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Re: [newbie] Windows Games - QT

2002-07-07 Thread dfox

Both Xine and mplayer came out with versions last week that play
 QuickTime movies better than Apple's native player (which also works
 better with X-over/fake_windows, than under Billy's Winwoes ;)  Video

This intrigues me, as I haven't found quicktime support yet. I went to
the mplayer site, downloaded the current tar (20020707) file, compiled
and installed it. All I can get is the audio of a .mov file, no
video. I get diagnostics about an unsupported video codec, and I tried
the suggestions (update ~/.mplayer/codecs.conf) and read docs on 
codecs, but no Quicktime. I pulled up a .mov off of apple.com/quicktime
just for testing (movie trailer of the Two Towers).

Did yours work out of the box? Did you CVS ? I imagine what I got is the
same (or a snapshot) of the latest stuff from CVS.

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[newbie] i need xf86config help !

2002-07-07 Thread Tania Morell








Im trying to get x running on my new laptop. Its a Toshiba satellite s501 which has a gforce 440 go video
chip and a 15.0 high resolution SXGA+ TFT screen..



If anybody has anything even remotely resembling this,
Id LOVE to see your xf86config-4 config
file. Im running out of ideas here =( even if the screen is the same but the
video different, that would help tons too.



Thanks!



-T










Re: [newbie] Removing mandrake 8.2 ...

2002-07-07 Thread shane

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On Sunday 07 July 2002 11:13 am, Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled 
masses, saying:

 You can't use fdisk to get rid of Linux partitions, though.  That will
 have to be with one of the commercial utilities if you want to do it from
 Windows. I think, though, that I got rid of a linux partition in the past
 by using a linux boot disk and using the linux fdisk utility to do it.

using the install from the cd could do this as well.

...ah the joy of linux, 4000 ways to get the job done, all of them right.  
:)

- -- 
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Re: [newbie] System.map

2002-07-07 Thread ai4a

dfox wrote:
 
  My system does not run lilo during the 'make install' process. I must do
  it myself. It does reconfig lilo.conf to add the new kernel.
 
 It's not supposed to. 'make bzlilo' does that. Make install just plops
 the kernel in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386 somewhere.

Not true. 'make install' copies the kernel (not plops) to /boot, make
syslinks for vmlinuz  etc,  modifies lilo.config. You need to read the
complete message. Does RTFM stand for 'Read the Fine message'??

 
 make bzdisk puts the built kernel on a floppy disk. That's a good
 idea, especially for beginners - if the disk won't boot, you haven't
 hosed your system.

There are better  easier ways to do that. Just config lilo.conf to
point to a know good kernel and keep that kernel in /boot.  RTFM

 
  On my system after I do the 'make install', neither 3 of the files
  points to the current working kernel. They all point to the new kernel
 
 Well, they point to the kernel that's about to be booted - you're not
 trying to replace the working kernel on the fly, right? Still with
 make install, you have to do mv the kernels around yourself so that
 the next time you boot, the newly built kernel will be the one that's
 booted - that is why lilo needs to be rerun again.

RTFM RTFM RTFM. PLEASE. Your comments has nothing to do with the
message.

 
  make no claim about knowing anything about how the System.map works.
  Just on my system, System.map does not need to point to the correct
  kernel for the system to boot.
 
 No, but it's a probably good idea that it does.

WHY? WHY?   RTFM.

 
   
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Re: [newbie] more BS from RIAA: Music Labels Plant Online Decoys, Mull Lawsuits

2002-07-07 Thread Derek Jennings


Here is the site to assuage guilt
http://www.fairtunes.com/functions/mlmain.php

derek


here is that site On Sunday 07 Jul 2002 7:41 pm, Roger Sherman wrote:
 On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, shane wrote:
  it is funny, i buy music the same way i buy software.  i get it free, and
  if i think it i pay for it, for which i get a cd that collects dust,
  cause i already have it.

 There is a website, in my opinion a great one, where you send them money,
 tell them the band you want that money to go to (no matter how big or
 small, they'll find 'em), and they give the money to the band (after
 letting it sit in an interest bearing account, so they don't have to
 charge for this service). You can give as little as a dollar if you
 want...anyways, IMO as a professional musician, guys like Bill are out of
 their minds. GIVE AWAY the recorded music? So that you'll come see us?
 Give me a break...and how are we supposed to pay for the studio time?
 Sheesh...

 OK, anyways...I've unfortunately lost the URL for that service...if anyone
 knows it, please, please post it. I personally know musicians who've
 absolutely had money taken out of their pockets, and food taken off their
 tables cause of Napster (Limewire, blah blah), and this site is a great
 way to give back to the musicians while bypassing the labels.

  now that we have the mandrake club, i still pay, but i make the cd
  myself. music clubs that trusted me to buy it if i liked it and delete it
  other wise would find me a paying member.
 
  and the blank cd sales people could make billions... ;)
 
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Re: [newbie] Controling monitor power management

2002-07-07 Thread Warren Post

On dom, 2002-07-07 at 01:10, Sevatio wrote:
 Warren Post wrote:
  My monitor goes into power saving mode after 15 minutes of inactivity.
  This is not a window manager specific issue; it happens in all the wm's
  I'm playing with. I'd like to change that, but can't find the relevant
  command or tool.
 
 try the xset command.  You may also look at
 http://www.seindal.dk/rene/software/gxset/

xset does the trick, thanks! Now what do I do to execute the xset
command of my preference on every login?

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Re: [newbie] System.map

2002-07-07 Thread dfox

 Not true. 'make install' copies the kernel (not plops) to /boot, make
 syslinks for vmlinuz  etc,  modifies lilo.config. You need to read the
 complete message. Does RTFM stand for 'Read the Fine message'??

Perhaps there's a difference in the Mandrake source kernels, rather
than those from kernel.org? I usually get my kernels from the
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Re: [newbie] Removing mandrake 8.2 ...

2002-07-07 Thread John Richard Smith


You can't use fdisk to get rid of Linux partitions, though.  That will
have to be with one of the commercial utilities if you want to do it from
Windows. I think, though, that I got rid of a linux partition in the past
by using a linux boot disk and using the linux fdisk utility to do it.



using the install from the cd could do this as well.
  

Sometimes you can get rid of ext2 partitions with either the dos fdisk 
or w2k, but
it's not easy and depends upon whether you had a single /root 
partition,or multiple linux partitions, and whether you have any other 
partitions of the fat32/nt type after those linux partitons. I don't 
recommend it unless you know what you are doing. Basically , these 
partiton utilities do not asign drive letters to linux partitions and 
therefore although they are there and the utilities knows they are 
there, they do not allow you to delete then straight. You have to remove 
all those partitions that come after the linux partition, then and only 
then, windblows
partitons tools will recover the lost space, you then remake the whole 
of the remaining drive as one partition assign it a drive letter and 
format it, you can then remove it all and remake to your final desired 
configuration. I've done this many times before I bought PM. I do not 
recommend you do it.

You want Partition Magic. It's the best , and can do this without 
destroying data on  other partitons .

If you don't have PM, your are really left with the partition tools on 
your mandrake
install disc.You will have to run CD1 again, trundle through the 
unwanted preliminaries until you get to the partition tools , it can 
delete anything, I think you can remake the partitions if you still want 
them and format in vfat(fats32) ,is that true, I'm not sure, possibly 
not, I have never done that, so probably not.Perhaps someone could 
comment. Anyway once the ext2 partitions are gone, and if you were not 
able to format in vfat , you can use the windblows utilities to format
them and assign new drive letters. If you are able to format in mandrake 
windows will detect the new vfat partitions on bootup and assign drive 
letters automatically.

John

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Re: [newbie] i need xf86config help !

2002-07-07 Thread Charlie

July 7, 2002 11:50 am, Tania Morell wrote:
 I'm trying to get x running on my new laptop.  It's a Toshiba satellite
 s501 which has  a gforce 440 go  video chip and a 15.0 high resolution
 SXGA+ TFT screen..

 If anybody has anything even remotely resembling this, I'd LOVE to see
 your xf86config-4 config file.   I'm running out of ideas here  =(
 even if the screen is the same but the video different, that would help
 tons too.

 Thanks!

 -T
~~~
Never done it personally Tania but will this help?

http://www.slonet.org/~araul/linux/toshiba.htm 

I see lots of 'help' for other models using the Intel chipset but the only 
things that a Google search turned up for the NVidia chipset was in French 
and it was for someone using Mandrake 8.1. That shouldn't matter much but do 
you read and understand French?

Good luck.
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[newbie] md: session setting in KDE

2002-07-07 Thread Michael Dannhorn

Hi,

Since yesterday I have this problem:

On each logon I get old session settings after login in KDE (3.0).
Konqueror, OOffice and somme other Programs appering on screen.

I haven't said yes to 'Save session on futere logons' after 
closing and logout from KDE.

What to do against it? And where are these session settings
saved?

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Re: [newbie] System.map

2002-07-07 Thread Charlie

July 7, 2002 12:43 pm, Damian G wrote:

 hey hey hey . i thought this was a RTFM-free list. now,
 the reason i started this thrad was:
 is there anything i need to add to my lilo settings
 in order to specify a different System.map when
 i choose to boot a different kernel?

 would somebody having more than one kernel working
 at the time please show me a
  ls -l /boot 
 and a
 cat /etc/lilo.conf 

 so i know what needs to be added? i've RTFM a bit
 but it mentions nuthin' about this and i'm afraid
 i'm gonna ruin my installation if i proceed with
 the incomplete info i have...


 thanks very much in advance.

 Damian
 
outout of ls -l /boot :

/boot
total 3580
-rw-r--r--1 root root  512 May 27 09:53 boot.0300
lrwxrwxr-x1 root root   11 Jul  4 18:30 boot.b - lilo/boot.b
-rw-r--r--1 root root  728 Feb 22 16:02 chain.b
lrwxr-xr-x1 root root   20 Jul  4 18:22 config - 
config-2.4.18-8.1mdk
-rw-r--r--1 root root40750 Mar 14 19:25 config-2.4.18-6mdk
-rw-r--r--1 root root41021 Jun 24 14:04 config-2.4.18-8.1mdk
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 May 27 09:53 grub/
-rw-r--r--1 root root   401425 May 27 09:52 initrd-2.4.18-6mdk.img
-rw-r--r--1 root root   347679 Jul  4 18:20 
initrd-2.4.18-8.1mdk.imglrwxr-xr-x1 root root   24 Jul  4 
18:20 initrd.img - initrd-2.4.18-8.1mdk.img
lrwxr-xr-x1 root root   28 Jul  4 18:35 kernel.h - 
/boot/kernel.h-2.4.18-8.1mdk
-rw-r--r--1 root root  441 May 27 15:56 kernel.h-2.4.18-6mdk
-rw-r--r--1 root root  441 Jul  4 18:23 kernel.h-2.4.18-8.1mdk
lrwxrwxr-x1 root root9 Jul  4 18:30 lilo - lilo-menu/
drwxr-xr-x2 root root   19 May 27 09:23 lilo-bmp/
drwxr-xr-x2 root root   33 May 27 09:23 lilo-graphic/
drwxr-xr-x2 root root   33 May 27 09:53 lilo-menu/
drwxr-xr-x2 root root   33 May 27 09:53 lilo-text/
-rw---1 root root62464 Jul  4 18:30 map
-rw-r--r--1 root root  512 Feb 22 16:02 mbr.b
lrwxrwxr-x1 root root   12 Jul  4 18:30 message - 
lilo/message
-rw-r--r--1 root root  656 Feb 22 16:02 os2_d.b
lrwxr-xr-x1 root root   24 Jul  4 18:22 System.map - 
System.map-2.4.18-8.1mdk
-rw-r--r--1 root root   470935 Mar 14 19:25 System.map-2.4.18-6mdk
-rw-r--r--1 root root   472594 Jun 24 14:04 
System.map-2.4.18-8.1mdk-rw-r--r--1 root root  256 May 27 
09:53 us.klt
lrwxr-xr-x1 root root   21 Jul  4 18:20 vmlinuz - 
vmlinuz-2.4.18-8.1mdk
-rw-r--r--1 root root   887614 Mar 14 19:25 vmlinuz-2.4.18-6mdk
-rw-r--r--1 root root   890727 Jun 24 14:04 vmlinuz-2.4.18-8.1mdk

Outout of cat /etc/lilo.conf (the system boots the 'new' kernel by default)
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
prompt
nowarn
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=old_linux
root=/dev/hda5
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi
vga=normal
read-write
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux-nonfb
root=/dev/hda5
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda5
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=failsafe devfs=nomount hdd=ide-scsi
read-only
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-8.1mdk
label=linux
root=/dev/hda5
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.18-8.1mdk.img
append=devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi
vga=normal
read-write

You rang? LOL

It probably ain't right but it works and I'm able to boot either kernel.

Another drive has the 'secure' versions of the same kernels. No worries again 
but that's a 'bootdisk boot' so it doesn't matter here.
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[newbie] CDROM access

2002-07-07 Thread Filipe


I recently installed MDK 8.2. I can read a data CD without problem (see
the file list) but when try to access an Audio CD clicking at CD-ROM
desktop icon I receive the message: 
Unable to enter
file:/mnt/cdrom.
You do not have access right to this location.
How can I fix this problem ?
Thanks

Filipe Dutra
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Re: [newbie] CDROM access

2002-07-07 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Sun, 07 Jul 2002 17:56:07 -0300
Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I recently installed MDK 8.2. I can read a data CD without problem
 (see the file list) but when try to access an Audio CD clicking at
 CD-ROM desktop icon I receive the message:
 Unable to enter file:/mnt/cdrom. You do not have access right to this
 location.
 
 How can I fix this problem ?
 
There is nothing to fix.
You do nor access an audio cd in this manner.

Launch a cd player, xmms, an other and use it to play the cd.


Charles

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Re: [newbie] LISa

2002-07-07 Thread LtCdData

On Sunday 07 July 2002 5:59, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 05 Jul 2002 7:49 pm, you wrote:
  snip
 
   BTW - I have poked around Webmin, but can't work out how you added LISa
 
  /snip
 
  LtCdData helped me out with webmin...
 
  start up webmin as root...
  click on the System tag and then on the Bootup and Shutdown icon...
  Scroll down to bottom of the page and click on Create a new bootup or
  shutdown action.
  A new page will appear with a few boxs to be filled in...
  Name lisa
  Description Start lisa running [or whatever you choose to put here]
  Bootup commandslisa
  Shutdown commands [leave empty]
  Check the Start at boot time YES option
  Click the Create button
 
  all done :))
 
  regards magnet :)

ok komba2 bit..since you asked that too 

open komba2

open the config bit

set the ip or ip range ( depending if you have more than 1 other computer)
you then wantto get komba2 to either look for the other host by name or ip 
address

if required put in a user/passy

once found.. mount the drive in komba2

 i then left out the komba2 directory on my desktop
unless you reboot it will be there for you.

if you do reboot..just open komba2 again and remount the drive/s

LtCdData
cheerz magnet :-) 


 Well that seemed straightforward.  I'll have to shutdown tomorrow, so
 hopefully I'll see lisa start, but slthough I was told that it was
 important I still don't know what it does.

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Re: [newbie] CDROM access

2002-07-07 Thread Alastair Scott

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On Sunday 07 July 2002 9:56 pm, Filipe wrote:

 I recently installed MDK 8.2. I can read a data CD without problem
 (see the file list) but when try to access an Audio CD clicking at
 CD-ROM desktop icon I receive the message:
 Unable to enter file:/mnt/cdrom. You do not have access right to this
 location.

 How can I fix this problem ?

There's no problem - the raw contents of an audio CD are not really 
'files' as such as an audio CD doesn't ave it which any OS expects in a 
file system (although, if I remember correctly, Windows opens an 
Explorer window and, rather pointlessly, displays the contents as one 
file).

The KDE error message should be a bit better, though :)

What you can do, though, is play it - KsCD (Multimedia | Sound | KsCD), 
on open with the audio CD in the drive, will start playing the first 
track. Or you can rip the audio CD to files on your hard disk, as 
described earlier here.

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Re: [newbie] CDROM access

2002-07-07 Thread Erik S. Root

Try Mounting it as root in shell. That should solve the 
problem.
Cheers!
Erik

At 04:56 PM 7/7/2002, you wrote:
I recently installed MDK 8.2. I can
read a data CD without problem (see the file list) but when try to access
an Audio CD clicking at CD-ROM desktop icon I receive the message:

Unable to enter
file:/mnt/cdrom.
You do not have access right to this location.
How can I fix this problem ?
Thanks
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Re: [newbie] CDROM access

2002-07-07 Thread Derek Jennings

It is not a problem.
Audio CDs are not file systems. They cannot be 'mounted' like a data CD can. 
Clicking on the CD icon will give the message you describe.

If you want to browse an audio Cd either open the CD player kscd , or else 
open konqueror file manager and click on the item in the left hand pane 
labelled 'Special' (for konq 2.2) or the bottom icon in the toolbar between 
the two panes (for Konq 3.0)  If you are online at the time you will then see 
a track list.  I do not recommend playing the CD from here however because 
konq will copy the tracks to a temorary directory before playing them.

derek



On Sunday 07 Jul 2002 9:56 pm, Filipe wrote:
 I recently installed MDK 8.2. I can read a data CD without problem (see the
 file list) but when try to access an Audio CD clicking at CD-ROM desktop
 icon I receive the message:
 Unable to enter file:/mnt/cdrom. You do not have access right to this
 location.

 How can I fix this problem ?

 Thanks


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Re: [newbie] System.map

2002-07-07 Thread Sharrea

On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 16:50, Damian G wrote:
snip
 ok, so in order to use my new kernel i've got
 to rename my new System.map to something like
 System.map2.4.28mine and change that link to make
 it point to my file.

 now, my question is:

  how am i supposed to keep both kernels?
 i've checked lilo.conf and the boot sections seem
 to have no reference to these files...

 what do i have to add in order to make lilo choose
 the corresponding system.map whenever i choose a kernel
 to boot?

Took a quick look at the link that Charles provided 
(http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/linux-info/systemmap.html) which explains 
the answers to your questions.  This is how I interpreted it:

1) System.map is a file containing the kernel symbol info.

2) System.map has versioning info (eg. System.map-2.4.18-16mdk or 
System.map-2.4.18-20mdk).

3) If a kernel oops occurs it is intercepted by klogd (a kernel logging 
daemon) which performs name-address resolution.

4) klogd uses the System.map file to perform the address resolution and 
looks for this file in 3 places in the following order:
   (i) /boot/System.map
   (ii) /System.map
   (iii) /usr/src/linux/System.map

So if you have two System.map files:
/boot/System.map-2.4.18mdk
/boot/System.map-2.4.18mine
and you boot with your new kernel image /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.28mine then klogd 
will first look in the /boot dir for the matching System.map file (ie. 
System.map-2.4.18mine).

Still, I usually remove the old link in /boot and create a new one pointing 
to the new System.map-[new one] before I boot my new kernel.  Same with the 
vmlinuz link - I delete the old and create a new link.  Its also safer to 
put the actual kernel image filename in /etc/lilo.conf rather than link, 
eg.
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18mine   and NOT:
image=/boot/vmlinuz

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Re: [newbie] CDROM access

2002-07-07 Thread Derek Jennings

Sorry.. The item in the konqueror pane to access is 'Services' not 'Special'

derek



On Sunday 07 Jul 2002 9:56 pm, Filipe wrote:
 I recently installed MDK 8.2. I can read a data CD without problem (see the
 file list) but when try to access an Audio CD clicking at CD-ROM desktop
 icon I receive the message:
 Unable to enter file:/mnt/cdrom. You do not have access right to this
 location.

 How can I fix this problem ?

 Thanks


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Re: [newbie] rpm database

2002-07-07 Thread Charlie

July 7, 2002 08:08 am, Moshe Kaminsky wrote:
 Hi,

 I tried installing some rpm packages (kde3) from the command line. It
 failed on dependencies - seems that rpm thinks I have nothing installed!
 I tried to run
   rpm --initdb
 It didn't help. When I typed
   rpm -qa
 It showed nothing. the rpm program I use is the one that came with the
 distribution (8.2).
 I later installed these packages with the software manager, and it
 worked.
 I guess that the software manager is just a front end to the same rpm,
 so I probably have some problems with the parameters, but I have no idea
 what it is. More generally, if I'm correct that these graphical tools
 are just front end to command line tools, is it possible to make them
 print what are the commands they perform?

 Moshe
~~
If you want to see what's happening behind the scenes; when running 
software manager (or almost any of the frontends such as Mandrake Control 
Centre which is activated by mcc in terminal or console) Moshe just open a 
terminal. su to root and type rpmdrake. The GUI will open but everything that 
it's doing for you will display in the terminal.

That's my 'cheaters way' to learn what processes do when running GUI 
frontends for commandline tools. It may not be the correct way to do things, 
but what the hell, it works, and I learn. grin

HTH
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Re: [newbie] System.map

2002-07-07 Thread Damian Gatabria


 You rang? LOL
 
 It probably ain't right but it works and I'm able to boot either kernel.

thanks much Charlie. this solves my doubt. so, using the latest
system.map seems to work for both the old and the new kernel..

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Re: [newbie] System.map

2002-07-07 Thread Charlie

July 7, 2002 03:56 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote:
  You rang? LOL
 
  It probably ain't right but it works and I'm able to boot either kernel.

 thanks much Charlie. this solves my doubt. so, using the latest
 system.map seems to work for both the old and the new kernel..

 Damian
~~~
It seems you are correct Damian. The system map seems to describe the actual 
physical parameters (hardware, memory, chipset[s], I/O, add-on boards, 
partitions, et cetera, ad infinito) of the system for the kernel.

I haven't learned enough (yet) to be unequivocal in any response here but 
I'll always do what I can to try to help.

De nada, you're very welcome.
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[newbie] discussion board

2002-07-07 Thread Roy Murray

Would anybody be interested in using a discussion board set up for Mandrake
and  other Linux users? If there is enough interest I might set one up.
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Re: [newbie] recent 8.2 install system lock-ups

2002-07-07 Thread magnet

Hi all and Charles,

Confession time here and a possible lesson for anyone else reading this
having weird problems.

Due to my computer being in a custom made tower, I have been doing some work
on it lately and it seems I slightly dislodged the HDD lead from the mobo!!!
It allowed booting up [just] but maybe the heat build-up had some effect by
the end of the day causing the lead to lift enough to break the connection
on a few data lines. Sorry to have wasted everyone's bandwidth with this
problem.

Charles, I added that line as you said there were issues with AMD and 8.2 as
it may avoid problems I might have encountered further down the line. Many
thanks for your suggestion .

regards
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Re: [newbie] more BS from RIAA: Music Labels Plant Online Decoys,Mull Lawsuits

2002-07-07 Thread robin

Derek Jennings wrote:

Here is the site to assuage guilt
http://www.fairtunes.com/functions/mlmain.php

  

I tried this site, and after wandering around deciding which artists to 
support (Cassandra Complex, Sheila Chandra and the Cocteau twins, if 
anyone's interested) and filling in my credit card details, I had to 
give up because the idiots at Paypal are unaware of the existence of my 
country of residence (Turkey, which is not exactly off the map).

Sir Robin

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in the ocean when the ocean seems lit from within.
I know I'm drunk when I start this ocean talk. - Rumi

Robin Turner
IDMYO
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Ankara 06533

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[newbie] Make fails - cpp0: No such file or directory

2002-07-07 Thread Ralph Dratman

Since installing 8.2 a few days ago, I have tried to compile a couple 
of source packages. I keep getting the following sequence:

--
# make
gcc -c  -DSTACK_DIRECTION=0 -g hello.c
gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cpp0': No such file or directory
make: *** [hello.o] Error 1
--

So then I try

--
# locate cpp0
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.0.4/tradcpp0
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.0.4/cpp0
--

A couple of messages I found in archives suggest that the gcc setup 
is somehow wrong, or there are extra compilers installed, but I have 
not been able to find any specifics on how to fix the problem.

So I tried

--
# locate bin/gcc
/usr/bin/gcc-2.96
/usr/bin/gcc
--

Does anyone know what is going wrong and what I might do to make it better?

Thank you.

Regards,

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[newbie] Gnome Themes Selector

2002-07-07 Thread Smiley

I just installed Gnome 2.0 through Mandrake Cooker; all seems gone smooth, but
only default theme is shown... I do have gtk-themes installed, but they're not
listed in the selection box: is just a little bug or something changed, since
Gnome 1.4?

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Re: [newbie] CDROM access

2002-07-07 Thread Filipe


Thanks Derek.
I was misunderstanding it. With your suggestion I can see the tracks. I
wanted to check if the drive was reading correctly the audio-cd since a
have no sound.
Best regards
Filipe Dutra
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

At 22:08 7/7/2002 +0100, you wrote:
It is not a problem.
Audio CDs are not file systems. They cannot be 'mounted' like a data CD
can. 
Clicking on the CD icon will give the message you describe.
If you want to browse an audio Cd either open the CD player kscd , or
else 
open konqueror file manager and click on the item in the left hand pane

labelled 'Special' (for konq 2.2) or the bottom icon in the toolbar
between 
the two panes (for Konq 3.0) If you are online at the time you will
then see 
a track list. I do not recommend playing the CD from here however
because 
konq will copy the tracks to a temorary directory before playing
them.
derek

On Sunday 07 Jul 2002 9:56 pm, Filipe wrote:
 I recently installed MDK 8.2. I can read a data CD without problem
(see the
 file list) but when try to access an Audio CD clicking at CD-ROM
desktop
 icon I receive the message:
 Unable to enter
file:/mnt/cdrom. You do
not have access right to this
 location.

 How can I fix this problem ?

 Thanks


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Re: [newbie] Make fails - cpp0: No such file or directory

2002-07-07 Thread Bill Davidson

On Sun, 07 Jul 2002 19:08:40 -0400
Ralph Dratman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Since installing 8.2 a few days ago, I have tried to compile a couple 
 of source packages. I keep getting the following sequence:
 
 --
 # make
 gcc -c  -DSTACK_DIRECTION=0 -g hello.c
 gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cpp0': No such file or
 directory make: *** [hello.o] Error 1
 --
 
 So then I try
 
 --
 # locate cpp0
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.0.4/tradcpp0
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.0.4/cpp0
 --
 
 A couple of messages I found in archives suggest that the gcc setup 
 is somehow wrong, or there are extra compilers installed, but I have 
 not been able to find any specifics on how to fix the problem.
 
 So I tried
 
 --
 # locate bin/gcc
 /usr/bin/gcc-2.96
 /usr/bin/gcc

You've got gcc3.0-cpp. You need gcc-cpp-2.96.

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[newbie] No Sound (again)

2002-07-07 Thread Filipe


Mdk 8.20 - motherboard with Sound and Video onboard (PCchips
M590).
After installation, I tried to listen to an Audio CD but have no sound. I
can hear the standard sound when Linux begins but nothing from CD. The CD
drive and cable are ok because I can listen CD at Win98 and from Dos. I
can even listen to tracks from Konqueror file manager but not from CD.
(they are tranfered to HD then played by Noatun).
I think the problem is the driver. The board uses CMI8330
(ISA) sound driver. At Cmedia site I
discovered that the oldest linux driver is CMI8338 (last digit is
different). They do not have linux driver for CMI8330. However, the
system installed the driver CMI8338 which is
PCI. Maybe, this is the reason for not
having sound from CD drive.
Well, the sound manual, that came with motherboard CD, informs that sound
chipset is full compatible with Soundblaster 16 / PRO /
2.0. So, I think that I can uninstall CMI8338 driver and install SB16
driver. I found three SB16 files already saved at HD (they sould be the
driver files):
snd-card-sb16.o.gz
snd-sb16-csp.o.gz
snd-sb16-dsp.o.gz
The problem is that I don't know how to do it. I went to harddrake 
hardlist  sound board  mark CMD 8338 C3D (first line) and click
over button Run configuration tool but nothing
happens. 
How can I change the sound driver ??
Thanks for the help
PS: At other devices line (those not recognized) there are other three
lines: two for sound (CMD 8338 C3D) and other for PCI bridge
driver.

Filipe Dutra
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Re: [newbie] Windows Games - QT

2002-07-07 Thread tom brinkman

On Sunday 07 July 2002 12:25 pm, dfox wrote:
 This intrigues me, as I haven't found quicktime support yet. I went
 to the mplayer site, downloaded the current tar (20020707) file,
 compiled and installed it. All I can get is the audio of a .mov
 file, no video. I get diagnostics about an unsupported video codec,
 and I tried the suggestions (update ~/.mplayer/codecs.conf) and
 read docs on codecs, but no Quicktime. I pulled up a .mov off of
 apple.com/quicktime just for testing (movie trailer of the Two
 Towers).

  I get video, but no audio  so we're even ;)  Seriously I'm 
usin onboard AC97, and I believe that's the reason sound is gone. 
It's even a problem to get AC97 sound for QT with Crossover.

  You might'a got a Sorenson v3 .mov ... v3 isn't supported yet. 
You should have gotten an error mesg like this.

MOV track #0: 317 chunks, 595 samples
MOV: Found unknown movie atom SMI  (21)!
Image size: 240 x 180 (24 bpp)
Display size: 240 x 180
Fourcc: SVQ3  Codec: 'Sorenson Video 3'



 Did yours work out of the box? Did you CVS ? I imagine what I got
 is the same (or a snapshot) of the latest stuff from CVS.
 
   Yes, and yes.
MPlayer CVS-020703-23:00-3.1.1 (C) 2000-2002 Arpad Gereoffy

 IIRC, QT was first supported in the 020625 CVS.  If you're havin 
problems with mplayer + QT, try xine-ui-0.9.12, libxine0-0.9.12-1mdk
or get the tarballs from  http://xine.sourceforge.net/   Xine plays QT 
movies just as well.  Run 'xine-check' to make sure which codecs are 
working.
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[newbie] Re: [newbie]  i need xf86config help !

2002-07-07 Thread Nick Emans

Charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

July 7, 2002 11:50 am, Tania Morell wrote:
 I'm trying to get x running on my new laptop.  It's a Toshiba satellite
 s501 which has  a gforce 440 go  video chip and a 15.0 high resolution
 SXGA+ TFT screen..

 If anybody has anything even remotely resembling this, I'd LOVE to see
 your xf86config-4 config file.   I'm running out of ideas here  =(
 even if the screen is the same but the video different, that would help
 tons too.

 Thanks!

 -T
~~~
Never done it personally Tania but will this help?

http://www.slonet.org/~araul/linux/toshiba.htm 

I see lots of 'help' for other models using the Intel chipset but the only 
things that a Google search turned up for the NVidia chipset was in French 
and it was for someone using Mandrake 8.1. That shouldn't matter much but do 
you read and understand French?

Good luck.
-- 
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Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org
A critic is a bundle of biases held loosely together by a sense of taste.
-- Whitney Balliett



Tania:
NVidia makes some propietary drivers for their chips, and provide 
free downloads of them for Linux. Most users will say that they provide the most 
robust video performance for their chips. The drivers are common
to all their devices. They are somewhat tricky for a newbie to set up; the most 
reliable way I found was utilizing scapegoat's tutorial:
http://mdkxp.by-a.com/htm/tutorials/nvidiarpm.php
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Re: [newbie] i need xf86config help !

2002-07-07 Thread FemmeFatale

Charlie wrote:
 July 7, 2002 11:50 am, Tania Morell wrote:
 
I'm trying to get x running on my new laptop.  It's a Toshiba satellite
s501 which has  a gforce 440 go  video chip and a 15.0 high resolution
SXGA+ TFT screen..

If anybody has anything even remotely resembling this, I'd LOVE to see
your xf86config-4 config file.   I'm running out of ideas here  =(
even if the screen is the same but the video different, that would help
tons too.

Thanks!

-T
 
 ~~~
 Never done it personally Tania but will this help?
 
 http://www.slonet.org/~araul/linux/toshiba.htm 
 
 I see lots of 'help' for other models using the Intel chipset but the only 
 things that a Google search turned up for the NVidia chipset was in French 
 and it was for someone using Mandrake 8.1. That shouldn't matter much but do 
 you read and understand French?
 
 Good luck.
 

If not, one of us Frenchies can translate I'm sure.

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Re: [newbie] System.map

2002-07-07 Thread tom brinkman

On Sunday 07 July 2002 10:22 am, ai4a wrote:

 In my Mandrake 8.2 the export INSTALL_PATH=/boot comes
 uncommentted. No need to uncomment it.

Hmmm, I've never seen a kernel-source-.mdk.rpm that had it 
uncommented, I've always had to remove the #.   I suppose the pre-
built kernel-xxx.mdk.rpms would have it uncommented ... never looked.

  I use this /etc/bashrc alias to check,
 alias bootlinks='ll /boot/{initrd,vmlinuz,System.map}*'
  Typing 'bootlinks' then, at least initrd and vmlinuz should point
  to the right kernels (the current active links will be color
  hi-lited). My alias doesn't change anything, just displays the
  current state of important links in /boot. Until I boot the new
  kernel, the important links, initrd and vmlinuz point to the
  correct kernel(s), but System.map doesn't

 On my system after I do the 'make install', neither 3 of the files
 points to the current working kernel. They all point to the new
 kernel that has not been rebooted yet. I think I must miss
 understand what you are saying!!

  No, I just didn't say it very well ;)  In every compile I can 
remember, vmlinuz and initrd point to the new (freshly compiled) 
kernel, even tho I haven't booted it for the first time yet.  This is 
fine, since the other vmlinuz and initrd links in /boot point to 
their matching (existing) kernel(s).  Only System.map doesn't point 
to the new kernel till I boot it for the first time.

So, bottom line, I believe if after you compile a new kernel, just 
make sure there's vmlinuz and initrd links in /boot that point to the 
new kernel, don't worry about System.map
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Re: [newbie] Virii WAS I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?[very OT]

2002-07-07 Thread FemmeFatale

robin wrote:

 I agree, though I'd balk at kewl (unless there are really people out 
 there who pronounce it like mewl).  what we should be careful of, 
 though, is allowing the introduction of the equivalent of Microsoft's 
 and Netscape's enhancements to HTML during the early 1990s.  A foreign 
 reader who has gone to the trouble of learning one weird English 
 spelling will not want to have to learn another
 What I'd like to see would be some kind of W3C for formal written 
 international English (there's no point in telling people how to speak 
 or write SMS).  I don't see this happening, though, given that worthy 
 academic bodies can't even agree on a format for bibliographies. 
 Ulitmately I'd like to see English replaced as the de facto 
 international language, but that's even less likely.
 
 Sir Robin
 


Don't know if you're aware Robin, but there is an international English 
language.  Its used in places like the UN  Diplomatic missives to other 
countries.  Its not American/Canadian/British or any such thing.

Its  alanguage almost unto itself.
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Re: [newbie] Gnome Themes Selector

2002-07-07 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002 01:14:41 +0200, Smiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just installed Gnome 2.0 through Mandrake Cooker; all seems gone smooth, but
 only default theme is shown... I do have gtk-themes installed, but they're not
 listed in the selection box: is just a little bug or something changed, since
 Gnome 1.4?

GTK2 themes are different from GTK1 themes. To change GTK1 themes in GNOME2, try
this: http://www.muhri.net/nav.php3?node=gts

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operating system, and possibly program, of all time.
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Fw: [newbie] discussion board

2002-07-07 Thread Roy Murray


- Original Message -
From: Anuerin G. Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Roy Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] discussion board



 hi roy,

  sorry for replying direct but i cant post to the list directly so if you
could
 address to the list your reply (if there is) then i would be grateful.

   if you are looking for a messageboard type of discussion for mandrake,
there
 already exists one. the old one was in mandrakeuser.org/mub but the
upgraded
 version is in mub.5onit.net. you could ask general linux info there and
the
 population is generally friendly and accomodating.

   there is also a messageboard at linuxquestions.org (or .net, i cant
remember
 the domain correctly) where all distros are represented and all aspects of
 linux are discussed. just be aware that the flame-throwing there has been
 reported to be common.

 ciao!

 Roy Murray wrote:

  Would anybody be interested in using a discussion board set up for
Mandrake
  and  other Linux users? If there is enough interest I might set one up.
  Roy Murray
 

  
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Re: [newbie] kde 3 first time config screens

2002-07-07 Thread L.V.Gandhi

On Sunday 07 Jul 2002 3:17 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Saturday 06 Jul 2002 8:53 pm, John Bodden wrote:
  What is the file to edit to keep the first time config screens form
  showing up in kde3?

 http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=1797

   You might also like to take a look at Texstars startkde file which has a
 couple of other bugs fixed in the script.
 ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/quickfix
if you have kde 3 in /opt then do
cp /opt/kde3/share/config/kpersonalizerrc .kde3/share/config/kpersonalizerrc
this should help. or edit .kde3/share/config/kpersonalizerrc with line
[General]
FirstLogin=false

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.0

2002-07-07 Thread L.V.Gandhi

On Saturday 06 Jul 2002 6:03 am, Barry Michels wrote:
 I found this tutorial ( http://www.atechsol.net/kde3.html ) and it worked.
 KDE3 looks great!  I've got a liquid theme with transparent menus and a
 digitally created water wallpaper.  I'm still going through all the areas
 in Control Center to see what all can be changed
link for liquid theme rpm for kde3 and mdk 8.2

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Re: [newbie] recent 8.2 install system lock-ups

2002-07-07 Thread Ronald J. Hall

On Sunday 07 July 2002 07:00 pm, you wrote:
 Hi all and Charles,

 Confession time here and a possible lesson for anyone else reading this
 having weird problems.

 Due to my computer being in a custom made tower, I have been doing some
 work on it lately and it seems I slightly dislodged the HDD lead from the
 mobo!!! It allowed booting up [just] but maybe the heat build-up had some
 effect by the end of the day causing the lead to lift enough to break the
 connection on a few data lines. Sorry to have wasted everyone's bandwidth
 with this problem.

 Charles, I added that line as you said there were issues with AMD and 8.2
 as it may avoid problems I might have encountered further down the line.
 Many thanks for your suggestion .

 regards
 magnet.

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Fw: [newbie] discussion board

2002-07-07 Thread Roy Murray


- Original Message -
From: D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Roy Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] discussion board


 Oh, well I recommend you check it out. There is a link from Mandrake's
page,
 I think...

 Here's the new URL anyhow.

 It's fairly busy and people are usually friendly.

 http://www.club-nihil.net/mub/

 Hope to see ya there!





 On Sunday 07 July 2002 10:01 pm, you wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Roy Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] discussion board
 
   On Sunday 07 July 2002 06:58 pm, you wrote:
Would anybody be interested in using a discussion board set up for
 
  Mandrake
 
and  other Linux users? If there is enough interest I might set one
up.
Roy Murray
  
   Why not just use Mandrake User Online's board?
  
   --
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   http://mdkxp.by-a.com/
  
   MUB-NWN
   http://nwn.by-a.com/
  
   WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting.
 
  Before I shove my foot further in my mouth; after 2 years and I did not
  know there was even a Mandrake Discussion Board.  I'm not talking
about a
  newsgroup but a actual Discussion board.

 --
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 The Mandrake eXPerience
 http://mdkxp.by-a.com/

 MUB-NWN
 http://nwn.by-a.com/

 WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting.


Yes you will see me there and thanks for the link. I could not find a link
to any Mandrake or other Linux only discussion board only.
I personally like to log into a board and see all the threads in order,
rather then trying to remember who started a thread and where it was going
when it changed topic by email replies.
Since there is already some Mandrake Linux Discussion Boards going, I will
respectfully  put my offer on the back burner.
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[newbie] RE: [newbie] Re: [newbie]  i need xf86config help !

2002-07-07 Thread Tania Morell

Thank you, downloading the nvidia driver worked.  Things were still a
little quirky (desktop running off screen) and I couldn't figure out
what exactly was the cause (I had made so many changes while
troubleshooting before) so I ended up reinstalling mandrake then
reinstalling the nvidia drivers once more.  Now things are finally
working as they should -- I think  =)so far so good.

-T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Emans
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 8:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Re: [newbie]  i need xf86config help !

Charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

July 7, 2002 11:50 am, Tania Morell wrote:
 I'm trying to get x running on my new laptop.  It's a Toshiba
satellite
 s501 which has  a gforce 440 go  video chip and a 15.0 high
resolution
 SXGA+ TFT screen..

 If anybody has anything even remotely resembling this, I'd LOVE to
see
 your xf86config-4 config file.   I'm running out of ideas here  =(
 even if the screen is the same but the video different, that would
help
 tons too.

 Thanks!

 -T
~~~
Never done it personally Tania but will this help?

http://www.slonet.org/~araul/linux/toshiba.htm 

I see lots of 'help' for other models using the Intel chipset but the
only 
things that a Google search turned up for the NVidia chipset was in
French 
and it was for someone using Mandrake 8.1. That shouldn't matter much
but do 
you read and understand French?

Good luck.
-- 
Charlie
Edmonton,AB,Canada
Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org
A critic is a bundle of biases held loosely together by a sense of
taste.
-- Whitney Balliett



Tania:
NVidia makes some propietary drivers for their chips, and provide 
free downloads of them for Linux. Most users will say that they provide
the most robust video performance for their chips. The drivers are
common
to all their devices. They are somewhat tricky for a newbie to set up;
the most reliable way I found was utilizing scapegoat's tutorial:
http://mdkxp.by-a.com/htm/tutorials/nvidiarpm.php
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Re: [newbie] discussion board

2002-07-07 Thread rfriedman

I'm sure there would be a lot of interest in it considering that a Mandrake discussion 
board already
exists at http://www.mandrakeuser.org

Rick

Roy Murray wrote

 
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[newbie] Just replaced video card and and CMOS battery

2002-07-07 Thread Frank McKenna

Hi All,

Using Mandrake 8.1  Sorry for the long post

I just replaced my CMOS battery and, as expected, received a CMOS error
message.  Pressed enter to return to CMOS default.

Since I had to remove my video and sound cards to replace the battery I
thought that I would upgrade my video card at the same time.

Replaced my Matrox Mystique video card with a Radeon 7000 PCI card.  Upon
boot up, I noticed that the checking for new hardware flashed an error
message but I could not read it.  Then, after the computer finished booting
up, the monitor started flashing just before the GUI to enter in the user
and password.

I then receive dthe following message:

mandrake linux release 8.1 (vitamin) for i586
kernel 2.4.8-26mdk on an i586 / TTY1
INIT: Id x respawning too fast: = disabled for five minutes.

Then the screen started flashing again

Can anyone please tell me what caused this?

TIA

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Re: [newbie] Just replaced video card and and CMOS battery

2002-07-07 Thread civileme

Frank McKenna wrote:

Hi All,

Using Mandrake 8.1  Sorry for the long post

I just replaced my CMOS battery and, as expected, received a CMOS error
message.  Pressed enter to return to CMOS default.

Since I had to remove my video and sound cards to replace the battery I
thought that I would upgrade my video card at the same time.

Replaced my Matrox Mystique video card with a Radeon 7000 PCI card.  Upon
boot up, I noticed that the checking for new hardware flashed an error
message but I could not read it.  Then, after the computer finished booting
up, the monitor started flashing just before the GUI to enter in the user
and password.

I then receive dthe following message:

mandrake linux release 8.1 (vitamin) for i586
kernel 2.4.8-26mdk on an i586 / TTY1
INIT: Id x respawning too fast: = disabled for five minutes.

Then the screen started flashing again

Can anyone please tell me what caused this?

TIA

Frank McKenna

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The hardware detector is NO GOOD on new video cards.

You need new software for the new card.  Drop in your 8.1 install CD#1 
and boot selecting expert Update

Skip everything with a cancel except for the X installation.  Just let 
it go through its exercises there.


When that is done you should have X, though Radeons in general are not 
well supported (ATi is very anal about tech info).

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Re: [newbie] Controling monitor power management

2002-07-07 Thread Miark

You'll probably find it's a permanent change.

Miark

 xset does the trick, thanks! Now what do I do to execute the xset
 command of my preference on every login?



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[newbie]System hangs while shutting down ..

2002-07-07 Thread vangala sarma

Hi,
 I have Linux Mandrake 8.1 installed on my system.
Whenever I try to shut it down, the system hangs with
the message :

 Shutting down interface eth0 
Can anyone please tell me what I can do to rectify
this problem. 
I will have to reboot the system whenever this
happens. What is the problem ?
Thanks,
Sarma  

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Re: [newbie] Just replaced video card and and CMOS battery

2002-07-07 Thread Frank McKenna

Thanks Civileme, that did the trick

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Re: [newbie] DEC Alpha Server

2002-07-07 Thread Inhabitantofzion

Cheers


That looks interesting and may well help.

I'll have a good look at it and see if I can sort it.

Shame to have a decent server like the DEC Alpha 3kr and not run a _proper_ 
OS on it!

J


At 19:07 07/07/2002 +0200, you wrote:

On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 07:03:17 +0100
Inhabitantofzion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  HI
 
  I recently was given by a business friend of mine one of the above a 3000R
  (well I had to give him a small fee for a few beers).
 
  It is fully functioning and has the 500mhz Alpha processor on it and 
 2gb of
  on board ram etc etc... does not have any SCSI HDD's with it.
 
  He says it can only run Win NT4  because they kludged the BIOS on these
  machines. They have coded the BIOS to Win NT 4 only.
 
  Does anybody on here have an idea what they might have done to the BIOS
  (How I find out what they have done) and what would I have to do to get
  around what they have done?
 
  If somebody could get me started in the right direction that would help. I
  really wanted to get Linux installed on it...
 
  John

I found this: http://www.linuxalpha.org/faq/alphabios-howto.html . HTH,

 -Frans


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