R: [newbie-it] kmail
per syd: grazie, ero convinto che ci fosse il punto dove andare a dirlo! per miKe: grazie pure a te, sono molto alle prime armi in linux, ma non manchero di certo di capire cosa sono i softlink! :-) ciao francesco -Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Per conto di syd Inviato: martedi 3 dicembre 2002 9.22 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto: Re: [newbie-it] kmail * miKe wrote: puoi meterla dove vuoi*, basta che la colleghi con un softlink che si chiama /tuahome/Mail Oppure entri nel file di configuraione di kmail (~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc) e nella sezione _General_ ci aggiungi la stringa folders=/percorsochevuoitu/nuovadirectorydikmailchevuoitu Naturalmente la nuoava directory te la crei tu a manina ed al successivo avvio kmail si aprira' su quella directory. -- syd - LU 285930 * LM 167646
Re: [newbie-it] stampante multifunzione
Uso la HP Officejet senza problemi. Franco - Original Message - From: giamgax [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:19 PM Subject: [newbie-it] stampante multifunzione saluti alla lista, c'è qualcuno che sta usando con soddisfazione una quasiasi stampante multifunzione? Ho guardato nel database di MDK ma sono presenti solo modelli datati. Sapreste suggerirmi qualche modello. grazie, ciao Gpaolo
[newbie-it] EDITOR in ambiente Shell ....cosa uso?
Devo modificare XF86Config-4 in ambiente shell e non so che comando usare, ho provato vi ma più che altro serve per creare un file e non modificare Help!
Re: [newbie-it] pranzo ML varie
Alle 06:29, lunedì 2 dicembre 2002, Arwan ha scritto: Alle 01:39, lunedì 2 dicembre 2002, contorcendoti la mente su Re: [newbie-it] pranzo ML varie, miKe hai scritto: grazie, se dopo l'inverno vogliamo replicare a Milano/Torino noprob! (o magari a Padova, visto che ci vado più spesso.. :-) Padova, Padova! Credo sia comoda anche ai Milanesi... ...Pure ai triestini... -- - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## -
Re: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato
- Original Message - From: sandro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato mi unisco ai complimenti, purtroppo data l'età ho scritto la tesi con l'olivetti lett. 32 ciao guido Che ti devo dire: COMPLIMENTI!!! :-)) Ai tempi della mia laurea l'ho dovuta scrivere con il vetusto WordStar (per dos - ovviamente) - aahhh, che tempi! Ciao Sandro
Re: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato
Alle 21:04, lunedì 2 dicembre 2002, Giorgio Griffon ha scritto: Perdonate il messaggio non pertinente, ma ci tenevo a dirvelo: mi sono appena laureato e naturalmente ho scritto la tesi con OpenOffice sotto linux, e ancora naturalmente l'ho indicato in bella evidenza nella tesi. Considerando che a giugno conoscevo solo win, non posso che ringraziare la gloriosa e generosa mailing-list. Ciao a tutti Giorgio P.S. A Roma non ci sarò; se qualcuno capita a Venezia, si faccia sentire. Complimenti vivissimi da un barone (detto di fuoricorso pluriennale...argh che vergogna, ma ...noblesse oblige...) -- - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## -
Re: [newbie-it] java e/o flash
Alle 20:11, domenica 1 dicembre 2002, tom ha scritto: Uhmmm mi sa che è un tantinello diverso! ti elenco le dir che ci sono: bin , cloudscape , conf , config , connector , doc , help , immages , lib , nativelib , public_html , repositori , xsl. mi sa che siamo fuori strada! Cioa , Tom ...Decisamente...ed i README non aiutano per niente? Per me a questo punto la maggior indiziata potrebbe essere la dir config; da nessuna parte trovi un file INSTALL? -- - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## -
R: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato
COMPLIMENTI!!! io la tesi non credo la farò mai...(non ho mai iniziato l'università!)... ...ma chissà che con linux non arrivi a scrivere il mio epitaffio! ciao francesco -Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Per conto di Giorgio Griffon Inviato: lunedì 2 dicembre 2002 21.04 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato Perdonate il messaggio non pertinente, ma ci tenevo a dirvelo: mi sono appena laureato e naturalmente ho scritto la tesi con OpenOffice sotto linux, e ancora naturalmente l'ho indicato in bella evidenza nella tesi. Considerando che a giugno conoscevo solo win, non posso che ringraziare la gloriosa e generosa mailing-list. Ciao a tutti Giorgio P.S. A Roma non ci sarò; se qualcuno capita a Venezia, si faccia sentire.
Re: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato
Giorgio Griffon wrote: Perdonate il messaggio non pertinente, ma ci tenevo a dirvelo: mi sono appena laureato e naturalmente ho scritto la tesi con OpenOffice sotto linux, complimenti sinceri ciao ku68
Re:[newbie-it] EDITOR in ambiente Shell ....cosa uso?
ho provato vi ma più che altro serve per creare un file e non modificare ROTFL! Puoi usare vi anche per modificare un file (prova con un bel man vi o info vi) o ancora con emacs. Dovresti averle già installate di default. Ciao Marco http://www.linuxland.org
Re: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato
Giorgio Griffon wrote: Perdonate il messaggio non pertinente, ma ci tenevo a dirvelo: mi sono appena laureato e naturalmente ho scritto la tesi con OpenOffice sotto linux, CONGRATULAZIONI!!! ... e naturalmente complimenti per aver usato OO sotto Linux! Ciao Marco _ http://www.linuxland.org
Re: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato
Alle 09:31, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, Marco Forti ha scritto: Giorgio Griffon wrote: Perdonate il messaggio non pertinente, ma ci tenevo a dirvelo: mi sono appena laureato e naturalmente ho scritto la tesi con OpenOffice sotto linux, mi aggiungo anch'io ai complimenti solo per il titolo conseguito però, perchè se tu avessi scritto la tesi in latex avresti raggiunto un altro traguardo, anzi due: primo, risultato del prodotto finito senza confronto con un qualsiasi programma che utilizza fogli elettronici; secondo, il definitivo abbandono del modo di ragionare win.
Re: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato
Alle 21:04, lunedì 2 dicembre 2002, Giorgio Griffon ha scritto: Perdonate il messaggio non pertinente, ma ci tenevo a dirvelo: mi sono appena laureato e naturalmente ho scritto la tesi con OpenOffice sotto linux, e ancora naturalmente l'ho indicato in bella evidenza nella tesi. Considerando che a giugno conoscevo solo win, non posso che ringraziare la gloriosa e generosa mailing-list. Ciao a tutti Giorgio P.S. A Roma non ci sarò; se qualcuno capita a Venezia, si faccia sentire. Auguroni.beato te che hai finito!!! ho capito perché non vai al pranzo! dovresti offrire a tutti per la laurea :PP spero di poter mandare una mail del genere anche io tra non molto :) Auguri e complimenti ancora! Ciao , Tom
Re: Re: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato
Ma cos'è questo latex?E' una specie di wordprocessor evoluto o cosa?Scusate la mia ignoranza. Alessandro. mi aggiungo anch'io ai complimenti solo per il titolo conseguito però, perchè se tu avessi scritto la tesi in latex avresti raggiunto un altro traguardo, anzi due: primo, risultato del prodotto finito senza confronto con un qualsiasi programma che utilizza fogli elettronici; secondo, il definitivo abbandono del modo di ragionare win. . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Best regards. Alessandro [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-03
Re: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato
Beh! Penso che usare LaTeX puro sia abbastanza da pazzi quando è possibile utilizzare LyX!!! - Original Message - From: Fabio Cinti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato Alle 09:31, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, Marco Forti ha scritto: Giorgio Griffon wrote: Perdonate il messaggio non pertinente, ma ci tenevo a dirvelo: mi sono appena laureato e naturalmente ho scritto la tesi con OpenOffice sotto linux, mi aggiungo anch'io ai complimenti solo per il titolo conseguito però, perchè se tu avessi scritto la tesi in latex avresti raggiunto un altro traguardo, anzi due: primo, risultato del prodotto finito senza confronto con un qualsiasi programma che utilizza fogli elettronici; secondo, il definitivo abbandono del modo di ragionare win.
Re: Re: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato
Alle 11:00, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Ma cos'è questo latex?E' una specie di wordprocessor evoluto o cosa?Scusate la mia ignoranza. Alessandro. non è nulla di tutto questo è qualcosa di molto più potente: è un insieme di macro per ottenere documenti scritti in tex e dà come risultato un formato tipografico prova a creare un file pippo.tex e dentro scrivi \documentclass{article} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} \begin{document} Ciao Pippo, Pippo ciao \end{document} Poi complilalo con latex pippo.tex e vai a leggere il pippo.dvi oppure trasformalo in ps con dvips pippo.dvi -o pippo.ps Prova! ciao
Re: [newbie-it] EDITOR in ambiente Shell ....cosa uso?
Devo modificare XF86Config-4 in ambiente shell e non so che comando usare, ho provato vi ma più che altro serve per creare un file e non modificare va benissimo vi. non è vero che serva solo per creare files, per quello c'è il comando touch. Basta lanciare vi nomefile. Per salvare, :w da linea di comando. Ma i tutoriali in merito abbondano. HTH, g. Guido Milanese - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vocal Ensemble Ars Antiqua - http://www.arsantiqua.org Salita del Passero 11, I-16126 Genova GE, Italy ** GAUDETE IN DOMINO SEMPER *
Re: [newbie-it] EDITOR in ambiente Shell ....cosa uso? ...Grazie a tutti, ho risolto con VI !
Grazie a tutti, ho risolto con VI - Original Message - From: LukenShiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] EDITOR in ambiente Shell cosa uso? Alle 10:04, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, Roberto C. 2° ha scritto: Devo modificare XF86Config-4 in ambiente shell e non so che comando usare, ho provato vi ma più che altro serve per creare un file e non modificare IMHO il piu' immediato da imparare ed utilizzare resta mcedit (editor interno di mc). P.S. Ovviamente conoscere la documentazione dei programmi non e' una cattiva idea (consiglio una bella e sana lettura di man, info ecc), tanto piu' che vi(vim) e' corredato da un ottimo tutorial (AFAIK vimtutor) -- GNU/Linux Slackware 9.0beta1 ** LU #210970 LM #98222 SU #12583
[newbie-it] desktop...default...
ciao a tutta la lista! :-) una domanda veloce veloce...esiste un punto in cui si stabilisce quale sia il desktop di default per un utente (kde, gnome...windows maker) all'inizio avevo impostato gnome (per un utente), ora vorrei mettere windows maker...esiste un modo?? se esiste, questo mi permette anche di fare startx da console ed aprire il desktop di default?? grazie per i consigli...sempre ben accetti francesco
Re: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato
solo una parolaMITICO congratulazioni mario - Original Message - From: Giorgio Griffon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:04 PM Subject: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato Perdonate il messaggio non pertinente, ma ci tenevo a dirvelo: mi sono appena laureato e naturalmente ho scritto la tesi con OpenOffice sotto linux, e ancora naturalmente l'ho indicato in bella evidenza nella tesi. Considerando che a giugno conoscevo solo win, non posso che ringraziare la gloriosa e generosa mailing-list. Ciao a tutti Giorgio P.S. A Roma non ci sarò; se qualcuno capita a Venezia, si faccia sentire.
[newbie-it] Formattazione Latex
Buon giorno a tutti, faccio per prima cosa i complimenti a Giorgio per la sua laurea, e visto che in molti hanno ammesso di conoscere latex, forse non saro' ignorato se chiedo un piccolo aiuto. In questi giorni sto usando latex per scrivere la mia tesina di laurea (presto, spero, anche quella di laurea VERA) ma mi sono imbattuto in una difficolta' che neppure i manuali forniti a corredo hanno saputo farmi superare (non li ho letti tutti, ovviamente, ma su the non so short latex, ed altri non ho trovato nulla) . Quello che vorei fare e' introdurre un'immagine incasellata nel testo. Quello che invece sono riuscito ad ottenere e' stato di dividere la pagina in due minipagine, una contenete lo scritto e l'altra l'immagine. Ma in questo modo mi sono giocato (non so perche' ) la possibilita' di definire un \caption (non sapevo come spiegarlo :-)). Qualcuno ha qualche suggerimento? Un mio amico non avendo la soluzione mi ha detto che l'unico modo e' usare una macro. Ma io non so da che parte iniziare a scivere una macro.. Grazie a Tutti Nicola P.s.: Divertitevi anche per me alla cena, e non parlate solo di Linux. :-)
[newbie-it] SCHEDA DI RETE
Ciao a tutti, dovrei aquistare una scheda di rete da installare sotto la mandrake 9.0 o redhat 8.0 , qualcuno puo' consigliarmi quale prendere e all'incirca quanto costa non vorrei imbattermi in qualche scheda non supportata. ciao a tutti!
[newbie-it] migliore browser in Mandrake 8.1
Ciao, volevo sapere se c'è un browser superiore ad altri in Mandrake 8.1 Grazie, Enrico _ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus
[newbie-it] Flash in Linux
Ciao, volevo sapere se è in Mandrake 8.1 è disponibile la plugin per visualizzare contenuti di pagine HTML sviluppati in Flash. Grazie! Enrico _ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus
[newbie-it] Linux Office?
Ciao! volevo sapere se esiste un pacchetto migliore di altri come compatibilita verso l'office di Microsoft in Linux Mandrake 8.1. Ricordo di avere sentito parlare di StarOffice... nella mia distribuzione sono inseriti vari editor di testo ed alcuni fogli di calcolo ma non saprei quale sia il piu adatto. Ce n'è uno? :) Grazie, Enrico _ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus
Re: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato
Innanzitutto, complimenti a Giorgio che 1) si è laureato (in cosa?) 2) ha fatto la tesi con OO.org, mentre io, schifosa che sono, ero terrorizzata ancora dal linuccio all'epoca (il lontano 2001) e ho usato l'innominabile W***'97 -anche sul 486... incredibile ma vero: come succede quando si fa la tesi, capitano le cose più incredibili e terribili. Al caro 266Mhz si era staccata la RAM (bastava pettinarla un attimo) a due giorni dalla consegna, ho perso la testa perchè lo zozwindows non partiva, e il linuccio mi ha salvato la vita facendomi recuperare i file. Oggi la scriverei in LaTeX senza pensarci un attimo. On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:0:57 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ma cos'_ questo latex?E' una specie di wordprocessor evoluto o cosa?Scusate la mia ignoranza. Alessandro. LaTeX è semplicemente fantastico. Non sto a spiegarti cos'è perchè c'è chi lo ha già fatto meglio di me, che sono una capra. Ci puoi fare anche i .pdf (pdflatex nomefile.tex), così, per es., anzichè mandare in giro un cv fatto in word-like, fai una splendida figura con un bel .pdf E' molto fico, e in effetti la gente chiama più spesso da quando spedisco il .pdf. Anche per chiedermi per quale motivo non si apre con Word ;-) Sai che Asapi è il soprannome di Asaba, personaggio de Le situazioni di lui e lei in onda stasera su MTV? Di nuovo stracomplimenti, adesso è ora di farsi una bella vacanza. Io ho fatto proprio così: ho passato i mesi successivi col conto in rosso... ;-) Ciao! Chià -- CHIARA BIANCHI TRANSLATOR EN-HU-RUIT via Piemonte 19 41037 Mirandola (MO) Tel. +39 0535/614355 Mob. +39 338/9464840 Fax 178 226 75 49 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Scarica il nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: con webcam, nuove faccine e tante altre novità. http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.messenger.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie-it] Flash in Linux
On Tuesday 03 December 2002 04:20, you wrote: Ciao, volevo sapere se è in Mandrake 8.1 è disponibile la plugin per visualizzare contenuti di pagine HTML sviluppati in Flash. Grazie! Enrico Basta che ti colleghi al sito di macromedia, cerchi la versione per linux (ad oggi la 5.0) e la installi, come da loro istruzioni. Funziona su molti siti, non su tutti (anche se ho il sospetto che quelli in cui non funziona richiedano la 6.0) Ciao Nicola
[newbie-it] XFree non vede Nvidia nv18 !?
Per questione di comodità ho riportato la discussione sul forum Html.it. Se avete voglia e tempo date un occhiata: http://forum.html.it/forum/showthread.php?threadid=360732goto=newpost Grazie :-)
Re: [newbie-it] Flash in Linux
On Tuesday 03 December 2002 04:46, you wrote: On Thursday 01 January 1970 01:00, nicola wrote: Basta che ti colleghi al sito di macromedia, cerchi la versione per linux (ad oggi la 5.0) e la installi, come da loro istruzioni. Funziona su molti siti, non su tutti (anche se ho il sospetto che quelli in cui non funziona richiedano la 6.0) la 6.0 e' disponibile in beta anche sotto Linux, ma credo funzioni solo con mozilla 1.2 (e 1.1). Io l'ho trovata facendo un po' di ricerche con google, anche perche' dal sito della macromedia non mi riesce arrivarci ;__; ciao. Alessandro. P.S. Aggiorna l'orologio.. le tue mail arrivano con una data del 1904 ^___^ Grazie per l'informazioine, provero' a cercarlo pure io (ne avrei proprio bisogno). per quanto riguarda l'orologio, mi scuso ma non dipende da me, in questo momento sono all'universita', e per qualche motivo che non ho capito, tutti i pc connessi alla rete hanno date assurde, e discordanti tutte tra loro. Inoltre anche l'ora e' di solito priva di senso. Mistero degli amministratori. Se ti ricordassi il link per la 6 (beta va bene) mi risarmieresti una ricerca... Grazie Nicola
Re: [newbie-it] Formattazione Latex
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 01 January 1970 01:00, you wrote: Buon giorno a tutti, faccio per prima cosa i complimenti a Giorgio per la sua laurea, e visto che in molti hanno ammesso di conoscere latex, forse non saro' ignorato se chiedo un piccolo aiuto. In questi giorni sto usando latex per scrivere la mia tesina di laurea (presto, spero, anche quella di laurea VERA) ma mi sono imbattuto in una difficolta' che neppure i manuali forniti a corredo hanno saputo farmi superare (non li ho letti tutti, ovviamente, ma su the non so short latex, ed altri non ho trovato nulla) . Quello che vorei fare e' introdurre un'immagine incasellata nel testo. Quello che invece sono riuscito ad ottenere e' stato di dividere la pagina in due minipagine, una contenete lo scritto e l'altra l'immagine. Ma in questo modo mi sono giocato (non so perche' ) la possibilita' di definire un \caption (non sapevo come spiegarlo :-)). Qualcuno ha qualche suggerimento? Un mio amico non avendo la soluzione mi ha detto che l'unico modo e' usare una macro. Ma io non so da che parte iniziare a scivere una macro. mmm, non ho capito bene cosa vuoi fare, vediamo un po'. vuoi avere al lato l'immagine( per esempio a destra) e il testo l'altro? Se e` cosi` puoi provare 2 modi: 1. usi il pacchetto subfigure e dai il caption solo all'immagine( non mi ricordo bene la sintassi da usare) 2. usi il comando per mettere immagini laterali e cambi l'indentazione. Io non ho ancora provato e mi dispiace che in questo momento non ho sotto mano i manuali. Prova cosi` se non riesci io per domani mattina prometto di scrivermi i comandi esatti da provare. Fammi sapere se funzia! - -- Quando un uomo ti racconta di essere diventato ricco grazie al duro lavoro, chiedigli: Di chi?. Don Marquis chiave pubblica disponibile sul keyserver -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE97OJRJCpKdNyXmKsRAgjNAKCXjZFTTTF5OqsC96rpan2YYoW6iACeLFv0 y20vOZakAyhBlBCM9dfXm60= =Lic8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] Flash in Linux
nicola wrote: On Tuesday 03 December 2002 04:46, you wrote: On Thursday 01 January 1970 01:00, nicola wrote: Basta che ti colleghi al sito di macromedia, cerchi la versione per linux (ad oggi la 5.0) e la installi, come da loro istruzioni. Funziona su molti siti, non su tutti (anche se ho il sospetto che quelli in cui non funziona richiedano la 6.0) la 6.0 e' disponibile in beta anche sotto Linux, ma credo funzioni solo con mozilla 1.2 (e 1.1). Io l'ho trovata facendo un po' di ricerche con google, anche perche' dal sito della macromedia non mi riesce arrivarci ;__; ciao. Alessandro. P.S. Aggiorna l'orologio.. le tue mail arrivano con una data del 1904 ^___^ Grazie per l'informazioine, provero' a cercarlo pure io (ne avrei proprio bisogno). per quanto riguarda l'orologio, mi scuso ma non dipende da me, in questo momento sono all'universita', e per qualche motivo che non ho capito, tutti i pc connessi alla rete hanno date assurde, e discordanti tutte tra loro. Inoltre anche l'ora e' di solito priva di senso. Mistero degli amministratori. Se ti ricordassi il link per la 6 (beta va bene) mi risarmieresti una ricerca... Grazie Nicola http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashplayer/special/beta/ :))
Re: [newbie-it] Flash in Linux
Alle 16:20, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, Enrico Teotti ha scritto: volevo sapere se è in Mandrake 8.1 è disponibile la plugin per visualizzare contenuti di pagine HTML sviluppati in Flash. In questo sito (e' un indirizzo unico anche se l'ho spezzettato): http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_ Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlashP2_Platform=LinuxP3_Browser_Version =Netscape4P5_Language=English troverai cio' che devi scaricare (in versione 5) e come installarlo. Fa riferimento solo a netscape, ma la stessa cosa funziona per konqueror (per via indiretta), mozilla e galeon, nonche' opera e phoenix (anzi dovrei dire ex phoenix, dato che sta cambiando nome per ragioni di copyright), che non sono compresi AFAIK nella distribuzione a vanno eventualmente scaricati a parte. In aggiunta incollo una mia mail apparsa su altra lista: Alle 22:12, domenica 24 novembre 2002, LukenShiro ha scritto: Se hai fatto quello che ho scritto l'unico problema (ahime' non risolvibile) dovrebbe essere solo quello di visualizzare le animazioni in flash 6 (dato che i simpatici signori Macromedia per linuzzo restano sempre indietro di un numero :-/) A questo proposito ho notato che esiste la versione 6 (anche se in beta) http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashplayer/special/beta/installers/linux/plugin/install_flash_player_6_linux.tar.gz (unico indirizzo ovviamente) Sembra che con questa sia stato risolto un bug che faceva crashare mozilla in presenza di animazioni flash sonore. Invece di usare l'incerto installer, consiglio di copiare i file libflashplayer.so e flashplayer.xpt nelle solite directory di plugin Per la cronaca la 6-beta funziona con mozilla 1.1 e successivi. -- GNU/Linux Slackware 9.0beta1 ** LU #210970 LM #98222 SU #12583
Re: [newbie-it] Formattazione Latex
On Wed, 3 Feb 1904 04:56:52 +0100 nicola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Accidenti! Da quando in qua la posta elettronica è diventata più lenta delle Poste Itailane? Quasi un secolo per consegnare un e-mail :-0 Tu, invece sei uno dei precursori dell'uso di TeX. :-) Vedi, se ti può essere utile questo esempio ciao, Andrea figura.tex Description: TeX document
Re: [newbie-it] Formattazione Latex
On Tuesday 03 December 2002 05:56, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 01 January 1970 01:00, you wrote: Buon giorno a tutti, faccio per prima cosa i complimenti a Giorgio per la sua laurea, e visto che in molti hanno ammesso di conoscere latex, forse non saro' ignorato se chiedo un piccolo aiuto. In questi giorni sto usando latex per scrivere la mia tesina di laurea (presto, spero, anche quella di laurea VERA) ma mi sono imbattuto in una difficolta' che neppure i manuali forniti a corredo hanno saputo farmi superare (non li ho letti tutti, ovviamente, ma su the non so short latex, ed altri non ho trovato nulla) . Quello che vorei fare e' introdurre un'immagine incasellata nel testo. Quello che invece sono riuscito ad ottenere e' stato di dividere la pagina in due minipagine, una contenete lo scritto e l'altra l'immagine. Ma in questo modo mi sono giocato (non so perche' ) la possibilita' di definire un \caption (non sapevo come spiegarlo :-)). Qualcuno ha qualche suggerimento? Un mio amico non avendo la soluzione mi ha detto che l'unico modo e' usare una macro. Ma io non so da che parte iniziare a scivere una macro. mmm, non ho capito bene cosa vuoi fare, vediamo un po'. vuoi avere al lato l'immagine( per esempio a destra) e il testo l'altro? Se e` cosi` puoi provare 2 modi: 1. usi il pacchetto subfigure e dai il caption solo all'immagine( non mi ricordo bene la sintassi da usare) 2. usi il comando per mettere immagini laterali e cambi l'indentazione. Io non ho ancora provato e mi dispiace che in questo momento non ho sotto mano i manuali. Prova cosi` se non riesci io per domani mattina prometto di scrivermi i comandi esatti da provare. Fammi sapere se funzia! - -- Quando un uomo ti racconta di essere diventato ricco grazie al duro lavoro, chiedigli: Di chi?. Don Marquis Spero che cosi' si possa capire: texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext| | texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext| | texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext| | texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext| immagine| texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext| | texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext| | texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext| | texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext| | texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext|___| texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext Grazie ancora nicola. Ps Spero che l'output venga bene
Re: [newbie-it] SCHEDA DI RETE
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 16:17:14 +0100 Simone_Colombo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciao a tutti, dovrei aquistare una scheda di rete da installare sotto la mandrake 9.0 o redhat 8.0 , qualcuno puo' consigliarmi quale prendere e all'incirca quanto costa non vorrei imbattermi in qualche scheda non supportata. Non ho mai sentito dire di schede ethernet non supportate. Se vuoi spendere poco, prendine una basata su chipset RealTek: a partire da 9-10 euro e funzionano più che bene. Se vuoi qualcosa di veramente buono e affidabile, allora vai su 3Com. ciao, Andrea
Re: [newbie-it] Formattazione Latex
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ps Spero che l'output venga bene... output perfetto! tu intanto fai delle prove e io domani mattina vedo di recuperarti la sequenza giusta per la soluzione 2(che dovrebbe andare bene!) A domani! - -- Quando un uomo ti racconta di essere diventato ricco grazie al duro lavoro, chiedigli: Di chi?. Don Marquis chiave pubblica disponibile sul keyserver -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE97OjKJCpKdNyXmKsRAlmkAJ9jW98TNQQoJ3hAQ8HJ+ajPBUV77wCeO/IG RxHZzd0g8FoRqk9u7+Goq9E= =dfLn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] Linux Office?
On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 16:22:56 +0100 Enrico Teotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciao! volevo sapere se esiste un pacchetto migliore di altri come compatibilita verso l'office di Microsoft in Linux Mandrake 8.1. Ricordo di avere sentito parlare di StarOffice... nella mia distribuzione sono inseriti vari editor di testo ed alcuni fogli di calcolo ma non saprei quale sia il piu adatto. Ce n'_ uno? :) Grazie, Enrico Se hai la 8.1 ufficiale, dovresti avere StarOffice-5.2 che era una buona suite di Office. Adesso, si spaccata in due: - OpenOffice-1.0.1 distribuibile liberamente, che trovi nei CD free di tutte le distribuzioni o scarichi da www.openoffice.org - StarOffice-6.0, solo a pagamento, ma che trovi nel power-pack di Mandrake-9.0 Sono essenzialmente lo stesso prodotto. StarOffice ha in più alcune componenti non-free come Adabas. ciao, andrea
Re: [newbie-it] Formattazione Latex
On Tuesday 03 December 2002 06:24, you wrote: Ps Spero che l'output venga bene... output perfetto! tu intanto fai delle prove e io domani mattina vedo di recuperarti la sequenza giusta per la soluzione 2(che dovrebbe andare bene!) A domani! Grazie Nicola
Re: [newbie-it] MDK 9 e non ha pi X!!!!!
file ci sono delle incongruenze: Section Module Load glx # 3D layer Questa riga ... Section Device Driver nv O installi (ricompilandoli) i driver proprietari NVidia (e sistemi il file come dicono le istruzioni relative) oppure lasci quelli tradizionali di XFree86, lasciando le righe che appaiono nell'XF86Config-4 iniziale, ma evitando di caricare glx (per il quale servono le librerie Mesa, in assenza di meglio): in ogni caso _non_ vanno mescolate le configurazioni. Con l'aggiornamento alla 9 i pacchetti xfree86* hanno sovrascritto anche il file di configurazione. La prossima volta cmq, prima di aggiornare, fai una copia dei file di configurazione importanti modificati. P.S. Il grosso problema e' che quando si sono installati i driver proprietari e relative estensioni GLX e' praticamente impossibile tornare indietro ai driver di xfree. Pensa che io avevo formattato anche la partizione / e /usr e anche /var lasciando attive solo /opt e /home, non capisco come possano esserci dei residui del tentativo non andato in porto di installare i driver NVidia, tenendo conto che tra l'altro dopo quel fallimento la 8,2 funziava Adesso è tutto una esplosione di righe veloci e multicromatiche!
Re: [newbie-it] Formattazione Latex
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 sei fortunato: dopo esser tornato a casa son dovuto ripassare in ufficio. Eccoti i comandi( non li ho testati abbi pazienza!) \marginpar{\centering{includegraphics[width=\marginparwidth]{graphics.eps} \figcaption{il caption che vuoi...} \label{fig:label} } questo ti permette sicuramente di mettere l'immagine al bordo. per spostarlo a sinistra o a destra prova ad inserire nel blocco di \marginpar{...} il comando \leftmargin e/o \rightmargin in modo da cambiarli la il bordo cosi`: \marginpar{\leftmargin{-10cm} \rightmargin{0} ...} Il tutto lo ho trovato su Using Imported Graphics in LaTeX2e. E` disponibile in rete mi sembra sul sito del LaTeX( solo in inglese...) Buon LaTeX! Prova e dimmi se funziona. - -- Quando un uomo ti racconta di essere diventato ricco grazie al duro lavoro, chiedigli: Di chi?. Don Marquis chiave pubblica disponibile sul keyserver -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE97PcBJCpKdNyXmKsRAn6aAJ0ZnIBLMohA46M+IlVtx5+wf4tsNQCeO8w2 kk3S5LEhNEEAdjEaRDH0+w8= =UXJp -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] java e/o flash
Alle 09:31, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, Fabio Manunza ha scritto: ...Decisamente...ed i README non aiutano per niente? Per me a questo punto la maggior indiziata potrebbe essere la dir config; da nessuna parte trovi un file INSTALL? Ruesto è il readme - README Java(TM) 2 SDK, Enterprise Edition Version: 1.3.1 FCS Release Date: January 2002 If you're new to the Java 2 SDK, Enterprise Edition (J2EE(TM)), then you'll find the following documentation helpful: The main page for the documentation is titled, Java 2 SDK, Enterprise Edition Documentation. It's in the doc/index.html file. The Release Notes list software requirements, supported platforms, and current limitations. The Release Notes are in the doc/release/ReleaseNotes.html file. For code examples and instructions on how to use the J2EE SDK, please see the J2EE Tutorial at: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/tutorial Copyright; 2002 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. in CONFIG non c'è l'ombra di un file make o install neanche pagando :( possibile che qui in lista non ci sia nessuno che ha gia installato sto pak? :( a se avessi studiato inglese alle superiori invece di farmi ferie :)) Ciao , Tom
Re: [newbie-it] MDK 9 e non ha pi X!!!!!
Alle 17:59, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, Stefano Sebastiani ha scritto: Pensa che io avevo formattato anche la partizione / e /usr e anche /var lasciando attive solo /opt e /home, non capisco come possano esserci dei residui del tentativo non andato in porto di installare i driver NVidia, tenendo conto che tra l'altro dopo quel fallimento la 8,2 funziava Ribadisco il concetto, re-installa i driver NVidia allora ;) Molto probabilmente i driver di XFree86 non riconoscono la GeForce4. Trova una console libera e funzionante (o altrimenti aspetta che lo sfarfallio eventuale sia terminato) poi: 1) scarica con p.es. wget: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86_40/1.0-3123/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-3123.tar.gz ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86_40/1.0-3123/NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123.tar.gz 2) scarica il README con le istruzioni: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86_40/1.0-3123/README 3) leggilo ;) 4) installa il necessario e modifica /etc/X11/XF86Config -- GNU/Linux Slackware 9.0beta1 ** LU #210970 LM #98222 SU #12583
Re: [newbie-it] desktop...default...
Alle 14:55, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, mailing - effem ha scritto: ciao a tutta la lista! :-) una domanda veloce veloce...esiste un punto in cui si stabilisce quale sia il desktop di default per un utente (kde, gnome...windows maker) all'inizio avevo impostato gnome (per un utente), ora vorrei mettere windows maker...esiste un modo?? se esiste, questo mi permette anche di fare startx da console ed aprire il desktop di default?? A quanto ne sapevo, nella tua home, si doveva trovare un file nascosto .xinitrc, che ti permetteva di impostare il desktop environment di default; su mdk, a quanto vedo, questo file non c'è. Vedo però che c'è un file, sempre nascosto, di nome .wmrc; io andrei a sfrugugliare là, scrivendoci il nome del window manager che intendi utilizzare. Questo poi, immagino, indicherà a startx quale wm caricare. Prova, e poi ci dici... -- - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## -
Re: [newbie-it] java e/o flash
Alle 18:45, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, tom ha scritto: Ruesto è il readme - README Java(TM) 2 SDK, Enterprise Edition Version: 1.3.1 FCS Release Date: January 2002 If you're new to the Java 2 SDK, Enterprise Edition (J2EE(TM)), then you'll find the following documentation helpful: The main page for the documentation is titled, Java 2 SDK, Enterprise Edition Documentation. It's in the doc/index.html file. Qui ti dice che la documentazione la trovi nella dir /doc del tuo pacchetto (inziando ovviamente da index.html); neanche uno straccio di info? -- - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## -
[newbie-it] Setuid
Ciao, ho installato da pochissimi giorni Linux Mandrake 8.0 sul mio portatile Toshiba Satellite 1800-614, e premetto che è la prima volta che entro nel mondo di Linux, il mio problema è questo: quando tento di settare le proprietà del risparmio energetico e dello standby, mi appare un messaggio del genere: devi rendere /usr/bin/apm Sutuid. Cosa significa? cosa devo fare? grazie e ciao a tutti.
[newbie-it] stampante
Salute a tutti,come al solito ho un problema,perche su MCC la stampante lexmark Z11 viene vista corretamente,con relativa pagina di prova,mentre quando tento di stampare una mail su Kmail mi dice che non ci sono stampe in coda?e non stampa niente in compenso sul desktop mi compare una icona(croce svizzera),PDQ panic avete qulche idea? grazie a tutti mario
Re: Re: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato
posso provare a riassumerti tutto dicendo: non è un wordprocessor, ma un pageprocessor, crea pagine che si vedono allo stesso modo indipendentemente da monitor, stampante, risoluzioni utilizzate, schede video, ecc. - Original Message - From: Emiliano La Licata [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 1:21 PM Subject: Re: Re: [newbie-it] OT: mi sono laureato Alle 12:00, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Ma cos'è questo latex?E' una specie di wordprocessor evoluto o cosa?Scusate la mia ignoranza. Alessandro. non è un word processor tradizionale, cioè di quelli che costruiscono un testo sulla base di ciò che vedi nella pagina dove scrivi... è un modo di scrivere che usa la logica del software che si utilizza per programmare... in breve entrando nel modo latex, ti ritrovi davanti alla pagina di un editor e per prima cosa devi scrivere dei comandi per formattare il testo (carattere, margini ecc. ecc.), poi cominci ad occuparti del corpo del testo ed inserisci ciò che vuoi scrivere preceduto da una istruzione sul - modo - in cui questo deve essere scritto (modo normale, titolo, paragrafo, grassetto, ecc. ecc.). Appena finito, trasformi il file al quale hai lavorato in postscript o dvi, se ricordo bene, e così puoi vedere il risultato finale di ciò che hai fatto, cioè ti ritrovi davanti un testo formattato secondo le istruzioni che tu hai dato in sede di sessione editor. La spiegazione che ho dato è oscura ed orribile, mi rendo conto... è più facile provare il latex che spiegare come esso funziona... Sono stato approssimativo anche perché non ho mai seriamente utilizzato il modo latex perché esiste un programma che si chiama Lyx che rende le cose più semplici, cioè utilizza la logica dei word processor tradizionali, ciò che vedi sullo schermo è ciò che vedrai sulla pagina stampata, per formattare testi latex. Tutto su latex lo trovi su internet, fai ricerca con google... o se sei affezionato al supporto cartaceo, ci sono dei capitoli belli in Michael Stutz, Linux una ricetta al giorno... Ciao
Re: [newbie-it] SCHEDA DI RETE
realtek 8139: universali e io le compro a nettuno a 10,50. sono praticamente lo standard. - Original Message - From: Simone_Colombo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: [newbie-it] SCHEDA DI RETE Ciao a tutti, dovrei aquistare una scheda di rete da installare sotto la mandrake 9.0 o redhat 8.0 , qualcuno puo' consigliarmi quale prendere e all'incirca quanto costa non vorrei imbattermi in qualche scheda non supportata. ciao a tutti!
Re: [newbie-it] migliore browser in Mandrake 8.1
qualunque browser. l'unico accorgimento per rendere un browser totalmente compatibile con gli altri è quello di impostarlo per essere riconosciuto come msie su winzozz, in quanto molti webmaster idioti rendono le pagine invisibili a browsers che non dichiarino di essere microzozz explorer. aggiunta la stringa vengono visualizzati correttamente su tutti i browsers. io preferisco mozilla - Original Message - From: Enrico Teotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 4:18 PM Subject: [newbie-it] migliore browser in Mandrake 8.1 Ciao, volevo sapere se c'è un browser superiore ad altri in Mandrake 8.1 Grazie, Enrico _ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus
Re: [newbie-it] Linux Office?
- Original Message - From: Enrico Teotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 4:22 PM Subject: [newbie-it] Linux Office? Ciao! volevo sapere se esiste un pacchetto migliore di altri come compatibilita verso l'office di Microsoft in Linux Mandrake 8.1. Ricordo di avere sentito parlare di StarOffice... nella mia distribuzione sono inseriti vari editor di testo ed alcuni fogli di calcolo ma non saprei quale sia il piu adatto. Ce n'è uno? :) Grazie, Enrico c'è openoffice, ma non è incluso www.openoffice.org _ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus
Re: [newbie-it] pranzo ML varie
Alle 09:25, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, Fabio Manunza ha scritto: ... (o magari a Padova, visto che ci vado più spesso.. :-) Padova, Padova! Credo sia comoda anche ai Milanesi... ...Pure ai triestini... la accendiamo? bye miKe -- Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.20 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932
Re: [newbie-it] Setuid
Alle 21:30, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, Gaetano Del Vecchio ha scritto: il mio problema è questo: quando tento di settare le proprietà del risparmio energetico e dello standby, mi appare un messaggio del genere: devi rendere /usr/bin/apm Sutuid. Cosa significa? cosa devo fare? apm può essere eseguito, per certi utilizzi, solo da root ed è di proprietà di root root@mdk:/home/Administrator# ls -l /usr/bin/apm -rwsr-sr-x1 root root11364 feb 22 2002 /usr/bin/apm per permettere agli utenti 'comuni' di lanciarlo, occorre 'suidarlo' .. cioè aggiungere un flag (quella s che vedi) che consenta agli utenti di eseguirlo, come se ne fossero i proprietari, apm girerà quindi come se fosse stato lanciato da root (non è poco, infatti se ci pensi, può mandarti la macchina in standby... immagina a farlo su un server con 500 utenti..) il comando da lanciare è chmod +s nomefile nel tuo caso: # chmod +s /usr/bin/apm leggi la parte relativa ai permessi sugli Appunti di Informatica Libera, è chiarissima grazie e ciao a tutti. bye miKe -- Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.20 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932
[newbie-it] GNU e kernel
Alle 22:44, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, Emiliano La Licata ha scritto: non conosco l'ingegner Cane acc. :(, ma quando sento parlare di ponti un brivido gelido, frutto di terrore, rabbia e rassegnazione, attraversa la mia persona... hai capito bene pur non conoscendolo... è una parodia (di un fatto che già sembra la parodia di se stesso...) Riguardo il kernel, .. la ML a che serve altrimenti? mi pare che altrimenti ci allontanimo un pò da Linux e da GNU... Quello che tocchi è un punto che mi sta davvero a cuore.. ... credo che linux e gnu siano - l'unica - dico l'unica - forma di scienza/conoscenza esistente totalmente diversa dalle altre per il modo di produzione e diffusione del sapere: ... ..La mailing list è un esempio fantastico di produzione comunitaria, pubblica e libera di sapere conoscitivo... non posso che darti ragione su tutta la linea la cosa che rende unico il sistema, non è il codice, ma la filosofia che c'è dietro.. ..e poi da quella deriva la bontà del prodotto. Se non fossimo qui a parlare dei problemi, a risolverli, e a tartassare gli sviluppatori con i nostri problemi (tanti) e consigli (pooochi..) non ci sarebbe nessun miglioramento non imposto dall'alto o dal marketing.. Poi io sono dell'idea che la conoscenza, di qualsiasi tipo, debba per forza essere libera e aperta (come tante altre cosette.. ma andrei OT..) ti consiglio di installare i sorgenti del kernel della tua distribuzione*, quindi di entrarci e lanciare make menuconfig ... Ho trovato nel cd dei sorgenti del PP un solo rpm che riguardasse il kernel e l'ho installato da root con rmp -i ecc. ecc. ora, a memoria, credo chei sorgenti si chiamano kernel-source o qualcosa del genere, non ho idea in quale dei cd della distribuzione li possano aver messi, li devi cercare... se li installi con urpmi si tireranno dietro tutto il necessario (compilatore , librerie, librerie grafiche, qualche collegamento, qualche manuale...) poi ho dato make xconfig ma non è partito nulla... con quele errore? ti ho accennato che per lanciare il make manuconfig devi trovarti all'interno della dir 'linux' cioè in /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-xxx.mdk 'linux' è un link simbolico che punta alla directory reale nella quale si trovano i sorgenti se fai cd /usr/src/linux e poi dai pwd vedi che linux era solo un link... (uniforma il percorso, nel caso in cui aggiungi dei nuovi sorgenti devi solo rifare il link) Ciao e scusami per lingua lunga ;) bye miKe -- Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.20 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932
Re: [newbie-it] supermount si o no
Alle 09:28, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, hai scritto: Alle 18:32, domenica 1 dicembre 2002, fabio ha scritto: Dopo il bug in supermount, mi sono accorto di un'altra cosa: Continuo ad essere convinto che il bug sia di Kde, non di supermount: mi sembra doveroso, dopo che per settimane ne ho detto peste e corna...Ma ripeto, con Gnome nessun problema... ho provato entrando direttamente nel cdrom o floppy da console (con cd mnt, cd cdrom) ed i files li vede tutti e si riescono a copiare tranquillamente senza cose strane Speriamo che Mandrake emetta una patch per KDE-mdk allora!!!
Re: [newbie-it] migliore browser in Mandrake 8.1
Alle 16:18, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, Enrico Teotti ha scritto: Ciao, volevo sapere se c'è un browser superiore ad altri in Mandrake 8.1 Grazie, Enrico esiteno mozilla e opera, ove peraltro possono simulare-farsi riconoscere- come m$ ie. A te la scelta. Bye
Re: [newbie-it] Linux Office?
Alle 16:22, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, Enrico Teotti ha scritto: Ciao! volevo sapere se esiste un pacchetto migliore di altri come compatibilita verso l'office di Microsoft in Linux Mandrake 8.1. Ricordo di avere sentito parlare di StarOffice... nella mia distribuzione sono inseriti vari editor di testo ed alcuni fogli di calcolo ma non saprei quale sia il piu adatto. Ce n'è uno? :) Grazie, Enrico Dipende dall'uso che ne fai. Dovo lavoro, ho eliminato (a colpi di format) office ed ho installato OpenOffice versione 1.0.1 e funziona benissimo. La compatibilità (provata) tra word '97 e 2000 con OpenOffice Write è quasi del 100% (ha problemi nella formattazione delle immagini congiuntamente a del testo ma facilmente risolvibili) idem per Exel '97. Ciao.
Re: [newbie-it] stampante
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 21:47, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, ba-rk ha scritto: Salute a tutti,come al solito ho un problema,perche su MCC la stampante lexmark Z11 viene vista corretamente,con relativa pagina di prova,mentre quando tento di stampare una mail su Kmail mi dice che non ci sono stampe in coda?e non stampa niente in compenso sul desktop mi compare una icona(croce svizzera),PDQ panic avete qulche idea? grazie a tutti mario Se stampi da altri programmi (kwrite,openoffice) il problema persiste o solo con kmail hai questo problema ? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE97T935SFvNF8PgrgRAm72AJ47lKCFZPMPv2rVI9cDXLTX6L+dOQCfaPIY 0hVZes1DUx7PQ6flIRoQQf8= =nlg+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] pranzo ML varie
Alle 21:03, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, miKe ha scritto: Alle 09:25, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, Fabio Manunza ha scritto: ... (o magari a Padova, visto che ci vado più spesso.. :-) Padova, Padova! Credo sia comoda anche ai Milanesi... ...Pure ai triestini... la accendiamo? bye miKe Tsk, tsk... troppa televisione! ;) Daniele -- «Il mondo si divide in 10 tipi di persone: quelle che conoscono la numerazione binaria, e quelle che non la conoscono.»
[newbie-it] Update
Ciao Il mio problema è che lanciando il drakconf per fare l'update dei pacchetti di mdk9 continua a dirmi che c'è stato un errore nell'aggiunta del supporto degli aggiornamenti con urpmi,quindi vado in update_source e ho: url = ftp://ftp.edisontel.it/pub/Mandrake_Mirror/Mandrake/updates/9.0/RPMS/ (e credo vada bene) percorso relativo a syntesis/hdlist : ../base/hdlist.cz Non so come fare in altrnativa qual'è il comando urpmi da console? Grazie e ciao -- Per favore non mandatemi allegati in Word o PowerPoint. Si veda http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
[newbie-it] ECDL semi OT
Ciao a tutti, Domenica, sfogliando le inserzioni sul giornale, mi sono imbattuto in una offerta di lavoro da parte della Regione Liguria come addetto alla gestione di dati informatici. Fino a qui nulla da dire. Nei requisiti richiesti c'erano la solita conoscenza dei calcolatori, l'iscrizione al collocamento e la patente Europea di Informatica. Secondo voi e` legale che venga richiesta la patente Europea di Informatica? Per prenderla non bisogna studiare i pacchetti Office di M$? Scusate per l'argomento OT, ma se per trovare lavoro uno deve per forza conoscere word, excel, power point, dove andremo a finire! -- -- Ciao, Lux Linux User # 266688 It took the computing power of three C-64s to fly to the Moon. It takes a 486 to run Windows 95. Something is wrong here.
Re: [newbie-it] scheda yamaha
Alle 16:22, venerdì 29 novembre 2002, tom ha scritto: Salve a tutti, sto facendo un indagine tra i fortunatissimi possessori di scheda au dio Yamaha opl3- sax sound system, se non sbaglio,qui in lista ci dovrebbero essere almeno 4 eletti che si fregiano del possesso della suddetta! Con la mdk8.1 l'audio era accettabile con la 8.2 era decente,ora con la 9.0 è uno schifo! a volumi un po elevati la distorsione e il fruscio fan no sembrare Laura Pausini uguale ai Sex Pistols! (non che questo mi dispiaccia :) Questo l'ho riscontrato solo io? Ehi!! La voglio anch'io una scheda che trasforma la Pausini nei Sex Pi stols!!! -- - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## - Saluti alla lista e a Fabio, ebbene si sono un fortunatissimo possessore di Yamaha opl3-sax sound system, che su winzozz funzionava egregiamente passato a MAndrake 82, oltre al fatto che ho dovuto rompere le scatole in lista per capire come configurarla manualmente perche mandrake 8.2 non la riconosceva nemmeno, una volta installata il suono era schifoso, sto pensando seriamente a provare ad instaalre la mia vecchia sound-card Sound Blaster Pro 2 per vedere se migliora. Ciao a Tutti Dario Miretti
Re: [newbie] PTS?
you or watching you download porn. Hey!! how did you know!? So YOU must be the one wathing me!! ;o) Now seriously, it's the first time i notice that... maybe it's OpenOffice? Thanks Stephen. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice
On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 10:48 am, Dennis Sue wrote: Hello folks, My harddrive is finally dying, and due to be replaced this weekend hopefully ). At this moment, there are only 2 good partitions left ( both Windows ). So anyway, with the new harddrive comes the opportunity to load whatever version of Linux I prefer. Up until yesterday, It was Mandrake 8.2. I liked this version, As did my wife, ( Plenty of card games, eye candy, ease of use for her, etc ). You get the point. Now, I am wondering about version 9. I am intrigued by KDE 3, and would probably like it. However, from this list it seems there are some bugs that I might not enjoy, Actually it seems like quite a few. I am wondering if it is worth it when the time comes to load version 9, or stick with 8.2, and wait for a new version say, 9.1 or something. Does version 9 have the card games like 8.2 ? Especially the gnome freecell, and Klondike ( solitaire ) ? Thank you for your input. I liked 8.2 very much.. I like 9.0 even better...I cannot think of a single problem I have had with it. Not everyones experience is the same, but just because you read of people having a problem does not mean that everyone is. (Besides which.. A lot of problems posted on this list are 'self inflicted') derek Oh and it has all the games 8.2 had plus a couple of new ones like Frozen Bubble and Tower Toppler which my kids love. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting multiple ghost shadow effects from gfx card
On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 9:23 am, Richard Urwin wrote: big snip as thread contents getting big If I can stick my oar in at this point, it sounds like a hardware echo to me. Have you checked all the connections? In reply to both Peter and Richard's suggestions: I have by-passed the monitor switch box and tried a direct connection gfx card == monitor and the result is the same, so that rules out the switch box being the cause. AFAIK this monitor lead is a good quality one with duel ferrite coils fitted near the connections. It is not routed near to any mains voltage power leads. I will have a look in the local computer shop to see if they have any better quality leads available and try a replacement. Thanks for your replies. Will let you know if this makes any difference. regards magnet Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] usb diskonkey
I don't have an sda or whatever tab in diskdrake.. On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 07:25, Len Lawrence wrote: On 02 Dec 2002 19:49:06 + Azrael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a tiny usb diskonkey hard drive type thingy, and want to know hwo to get it working in mandrake9. usbview says this about it: -- snip -- I have a 20 Gb Flip2Disk, USB 2.0 device, which gives a very similar listing under usbview. If you have usb-storage loaded as a module then your device should be emulated as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb or whatever; /dev/sda if you have no other SCSI devices on your system. My drive came preformatted as VFAT I think and the first step was to reformat it to ext2. If you wish to do the same, go to diskdrake as root and hit the sda tab (or whatever) - PLEASE be extremely careful at this stage - and reformat and create partitions as required. I found that ext3 would not take - ended up as ext2. After that it should be a simple matter to create a mount point and mount the thingy. mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /mnt/thingy or mount -t vfat(?) /dev/sda1 /mnt/thingy Let us know if this helps. -- Azrael (\''/).___..--'''-._ `0_ O ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' ((i).-'' ((i).' (((.-' Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with a cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat. ICQ#52944566 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] internet sharing help needed
Hi Franki, It was late and I was getting tired when I tried it last. You are, of course correct about gShield just being a script. I was getting confused with the tar file configuration GUI that is an optional extra, which has to be made. Anyway, here is a brief what I did for anyone else reading this. Got the GUI to compile and install AFTER placing gShield scripts in /etc/firewall and editing gShield.conf file to suit my IP ranges. Fired it up and amazing... it started to work right away :) Now... last few questions for this query... Can I now uninstall shorewall from this machine. it isnt running anyway and I don't ever plan to use it EVER again after the last few weeks of grief it has caused me? ;-) How do get the gShield.rc script to be executed on booting the machine rather than opening up a console as su and typing /etc/firewall/gShield.rc each time? regards magnet = On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 6:19 am, Franki wrote: There is no compilation of gShield.. its just shell scripts.. just download the tarball from their site.. uncompress it (if you have midnight commander you can just press enter over the tarball to enter it and just copy the stuff into /etc/firewall with F5. if you don't have mc.. you should, urpmi mc) , and dump the lot in /etc/firewall then have a look in /etc/firewall/gShield.conf Possibly the best config file I have seen for simplicity.. it tells you the options you can use, and the defaults are most often correct.. The ICS is in that config file.. select MULTI=YES, and further down NAT=YES then make sure that the network address in /etc/firewall/NATS matches your internal network.. (ie 192.168.0.0, 10.0.0.x etc) thats it... when gSheild is fired up, you'll have NAT,, nothing to it. repeat, THERE IS NO COMPILATION WITH gShield. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of magnet Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 9:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] internet sharing help needed On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 1:07 am, Brian Parish wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 01:59, magnet wrote: Hi all, Well back from the dead once again after another fresh install following a lost battle trying to get a firewall installed and working, damn that shorewall! Machine is running mdk 9.0. So here is my question... How do I manually configure my main machine to share it's modem connection to the other 5 machines on my LAN? This is my /etc/sysconfig/network file: NETWORKING=yes FORWARD_IPV4=true HOSTNAME=linux1.local.net DOMAINNAME=local.net GATEWAY=192.168.0.1 GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 The other machines are all using the 192.168.0.xxx range and all point to 192.168.0.1 as the gateway they should be using. I do NOT want to use the control centre because it demands installing shorewall, which has been the biggest problem of all here causing no end of trouble with blocked ports, breaking samba and ftp. I simple hate it and the documentation isn't simple enough for me to understand how to write iptables rules yet to achieve a fully secure machine. Hope some of you will take the time to offer some advice on this. regards magnet I too gave up on shorewall. Grab gShield. Every feature you could wish for. Configured with a single simple conf file. You be up an sharing in about 2 minutes - 5 if you read the fine print. HTH Brian Cheers Brian, but I tried the mandrake rpm files which failed, and then tried to compile gShield from source which also didn't go too well. Can you explain how you set your ICS up please. My current situation is shorewall is installed (by default as soon as I used MCC to enable internet sharing) but it set to not start up at boot in services. Did you uninstall shorewall completely and not use MCC to set-up/enable ICS and just depend on gShield to get the results you were after? If I enable it, then this system changes my static IP from the required 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.1.1. This then throws out the rest of the network for all the other stuff I am running (samba,ftp). Even though shorewall isn't running right now, it has killed proftpd, which cannot determine the IP of this machine and refuses to now start, even though ifconf confirms the IP to be 192.168.0.1. Squid also now complains on shutdown producing errors,although this doesn't seem to affect the machine's ability to reboot. regards magnet Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie]]
wouter pos wrote: Sequence of events of my installation? ok!! Do I remember correctly , yours is a dual boot with W98 ? If so I believe you may well have bios set for pnp detection, as I believe w98 requires it. When W98 boot it looks back at the job bios has done detecting pnp devices and incorporates that knowledge into it's boot sequence, Mandrake doesn't need to do this, hence all the nobiospnp business to /etc/lilo.conf append= etc etc. If you don't have w98 installed and this is a dualboot with slackware then this is maybe not the case, I don't know anything about slackware, never having installed it. Possibly slackware needs bios pnp detection, I simply don't know. However just out of curiousity, and because I'm the kind of guy that will experiment, maybe it is worth trying as an experiment, disabling pnp detection in bios, and try booting mandrake just to see what happens. If it doesn't work, no harm done just go back into bios and reenable. First i already had linux installed. It was the slackware distribution with hda3 of 3.7 GB and a swap space hda4 of 125 MB (TOO SMALL??). Well, it's not enourmous , but believe me you can boot a linux OS on no swap space, I've done it many times, when for one reason or another the install went wrong and I had to restore swap mounting from desktop. Swap space is mobile memory, similar but not the same as windblows virtual memory, only in windblows it's a file with preset expandible limits, whereas in linux it's a /swap partition , if your swap space is to small it can be the cause of lockups when attempting to do big numbercrunching jobs like fsck, or something similar, but I doubt whether the size of your swap space here is anything to do with the problem, although you don't say what size you memory stick is, maybe a question mark here ? Ok the installation bootup went smoothly with a boot floppy made with rawrite.exe from the mandrake site. I gave an enter when the first screen came up (enter or F1) and the installation procedure-screen came up with the separate dots indicating the installation procedure. your Mandrake cd1 would not autorun ?, maybe you don't have the cdrom drive in your boot sequence in bios, I like to have , floppydrive,cdrom,ide, in that order, doesn't have to be but it's nice to not have to bother going back into bios to sellect cdrom and first boot device just in order to get the Mandrake cd1 to run. A recommended install was done and the dutch language was chosen and i accepted the terms and conditions. I chose an install instead of an upgrade or upgrade packages only. I chose for no scsi interface. And a standard mouse and a us keyboard. I used the existing partition hda3 as my root partition and hda4 as my swap space I formatted it (them both). All of the workstation possibilities were chosen including both KDE and GNOME desktop. (All the server options weren't taken into account). The installation began and it took about 20 minuten for 3 cd's. difficult to say, 20 minutes is about how long it takes me with 1800 athlon processor with 512mb of ddr ram installing 2.5 gigs of OS, I am guessing you are not installing anthing like so much, and with a slower processor and less memory, it doesn't seem too bad to me. (Have i wrongly burned the iso-files to the cd's? I have used Nero to burn the iso-files There were no errors during this operation, though.) Nothing wrong with nero, though I prefer linux's cdrecord for this job, the nero version I have doesn't do 700mb discs , maybe yours does. Then the root password was chosen and a user (just one: me!!!) The network was detected with a automatic detection and my LAN was detected. ( We are using a LAN network and we are running ADSL with 10 persons through a central server running a slackware linux distribution.) Summary was excepted. (With the CUPS server runnign for my canon bjc250 printer). And my audio card (integrated) was detected (C-media). The bootloader was installed: Grub boot device /dev/hda3 and delay of 7 seconds. Bootdisk was made. Installation for X was only the frequency with a screen size 1024 X 768 : at 70 HZ using a iiyama monitor this is screen resolution ( as against video resolution)not screen size, otherwise good. (not listed in iiyama list LS 902 UT). My graphical card is integrate onto my motherboard. My motherboard is an Asus a7n266 with sound but no LAN. On the website my motherboard is not listed in the hardware support list but the installation finds it (Nvidia integrated Generic). I have no experience with intergrated mobo screen drivers, but there is a question mark in my mind ? possible source of problem ? my viewing size was 1024 x 768 at 65.000 colors 16 bit. well the screen resolution 1024 x 768 is ok but the frequency is 65 where your screen freequency is 70 , I would like them to both be the same value so back in the section for screen resolution I think I would try to find one that is the same
Re: [newbie] RE: So many core dumps, what up !!
I'm new to the MDK world. I was using SuSE 8.1. The environment is very stable. Including the XServer included. But, the desktop is rather crude. I think SuSE is aiming primarily at the server market. Because during it's two week test drive. I experienced 0 core dumps. I do all my Java development work in *nix environment. So, I need a fairly robust desktop environment. As well as a stable kernel environment. So far that vote if still out on MDK. I'm going to install some of the Java tools. If using these tools causes core dumps. Then, I'll know that MDK is not for me. Franki wrote: I get none on some mdk7.2 boxs I still have.. as for mdk9.. most often its me playing with obscure options in KDE apps... I'm guessing that they are just from bugs in kde... generally though, I've had only minor probs with mandrake.. most stuff I've either fixed or I work around.. and I don't have to do that often.. i used redhat for ages.. then I swapped to mandrake, and I can't imagine swapping back.. I only load redhat on my systems so I can see what each new ver is like.. Its gotten so that I am so comfortable with mandrake that the idea of working with other distros is not a happy prospect.. (I love default postfix install.. won't touch sendmail again) and other apps are my preferences now also. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen Kuhn Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 2:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] RE: So many core dumps, what up !! On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 17:08, Franki wrote: Strange,, i have many mdk9.0 box's, and not many core dumps. I've had a couple, but I get that with all distros.. on mandrake 9.0 I have had practically none.. go figure... What tools are you refering to?? rgds Frank I find it rather strange that on my RH 7.3, I get NO coredumps whatsoever... -- Tue Dec 3 17:15:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Can anyone remember when the times were not hard, and money not scarce? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: So many core dumps, what up !!
I'm not quite sure which tools at this point. Although I suspect that they are KDE related. I just monitor my home directory for core dumps. After a session of doing various activities. There are at least two core dumps there. Franki wrote: Strange,, i have many mdk9.0 box's, and not many core dumps. I've had a couple, but I get that with all distros.. on mandrake 9.0 I have had practically none.. go figure... What tools are you refering to?? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of kjc Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 8:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] RE: So many core dumps, what up !! I hear that. But. Sometimes in my zeal. I rush to the newest tech set. I have to admit though. The desktop does look great. And, there are a lot of useful tools that are easily accessable Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 11:33, kjc wrote: I did 1,2 If I have to do 3,4 I'll be switching back to SuSE 8.1 But, thanks for the feedback anyways. HOW I FIXED MY CORE DUMP PROBLEM IN MDK 9 by Stephen Kuhn 1.) Reconfigured my lib paths in /etc/ld.so.conf 2.) Reconfigured my /etc/profile 3.) Recompiled my kernel 4.) ...set up a script in cron to delete them after all else failed. RH 7.3 on my production boxes for me...but still fiddling around with MDK until I know all it's secrets...(can't get a Fiat to run without fiddling with it, ya reckon?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: So many core dumps, what up !!
I'm running the ftp 9.0 version. Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 02 December 2002 06:09 pm, kjc wrote: So far. Since installing MDK 9.0. I have experienced atleast ten core dumps. While running various tools etc.. What is up with that !!! What set up are you running? I have had 9.0 running since beta 1 and through 3 rc's and a final and now the store bought power pack and had no core dumps? I am always amazed at the variation in problems showing up on the list, course it isn't any dif than problems associated with that other OS as far as I can see, but it must have to do with the possible permutations of hardware running the software. Oh, I did have a problem early on with shutdowns, but that was cause I put the heatsink on my Duron processor backwards and it wasn't even seated, hot stuff! Lucky the processor still runs. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] RE: Predictable Core Dumps !!
I found that every time that I do a log out from the task bar. My friend the core dump exists in my home directory. I also, noticed that when that happens. All my lookNfeel settings are lost as well as my mail configuration information. The mouse also freezes when I get returned to the login display. I then have to reboot in order to have the mouse activity returned to me. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice
On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 10:48 am, Dennis Sue wrote: Hello folks, My harddrive is finally dying, and due to be replaced this weekend hopefully ). At this moment, there are only 2 good partitions left ( both Windows ). So anyway, with the new harddrive comes the opportunity to load whatever version of Linux I prefer. Up until yesterday, It was Mandrake 8.2. I liked this version, As did my wife, ( Plenty of card games, eye candy, ease of use for her, etc ). You get the point. Now, I am wondering about version 9. I am intrigued by KDE 3, and would probably like it. However, from this list it seems there are some bugs that I might not enjoy, Actually it seems like quite a few. I am wondering if it is worth it when the time comes to load version 9, or stick with 8.2, and wait for a new version say, 9.1 or something. Does version 9 have the card games like 8.2 ? Especially the gnome freecell, and Klondike ( solitaire ) ? Thank you for your input. I would say that if you can you should keep 8.2 AND install 9.0. Experiences of 9.0 have been very different. If you get a good install, as mine was, you will have few problems and you can then ditch 8.2 And yes, there are as many card games etc. as you could want Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Min spec
On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 9:45 am, Keith Powell wrote: On Monday 02 December 2002 6:39 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: SNIP Systems are generally pretty noisy, these days. Hello Anne When it's behaving, mine sounds like one of those noisy fan heaters. When it's not, the noise is more like a vacuum cleaner. A bit of information, which you may already know. There is a firm in the U.K. which specialises in things (special cases, fans, fins, etc) to reduce the noise from a system. They are:- www.quietpc.com I don't know anything about them, but they look interesting from a quick browse through their web site. I want to try to get my system quieter, so I will be looking at them again. End of commercial! Cheers Keith They get good write-ups, too. But upgrading for quietness does not come cheap. Still, it's one option Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] RE: GNOME Window Manager
Does anyone know how to use a window manager other than Metacity with GNOME. MDK 9.0 GNOME 2.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: So many core dumps, what up !!
Core dumps are an entirely normal part of running Linux. Anytime an application 'segfaults' a diagnostic dump is produced. If you run flaky applications then core dumps are the consequence. However ordinary users are generally not interested in core dumps and wish to suppress them. This is easily done by inserting the command ulimit -c 0 in the file ~/.bash_profile for a single user, or /etc/profile for all users. Looking at my own system. My laptop is producing coredumps (because I keep running Opera 6.1 which crashes regularly) and I can see the current setting by typing ulimit -a is to allow core dumps up to 1MB in size On the other hand ulimit -a on my desktop machine tells me that coredump size is set to zero, and I am not getting core dumps. So clearly there is a difference in the way my two computers are configured. The only difference that comes to mind is that the /home directory on the desktop was from a previous 8.2 install, while the laptop was a clean install. I will take a closer look to find out where the coredump size is being set. derek On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 2:05 pm, kjc wrote: I'm running the ftp 9.0 version. Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 02 December 2002 06:09 pm, kjc wrote: So far. Since installing MDK 9.0. I have experienced atleast ten core dumps. While running various tools etc.. What is up with that !!! What set up are you running? I have had 9.0 running since beta 1 and through 3 rc's and a final and now the store bought power pack and had no core dumps? I am always amazed at the variation in problems showing up on the list, course it isn't any dif than problems associated with that other OS as far as I can see, but it must have to do with the possible permutations of hardware running the software. Oh, I did have a problem early on with shutdowns, but that was cause I put the heatsink on my Duron processor backwards and it wasn't even seated, hot stuff! Lucky the processor still runs. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: So many core dumps, what up !!
I found that the core dumps occur upon log out from both the task bar and the pull down menu. KDE 3.0 So I switched to GNOME 2. Let's see if GNOME 2, gives me the same behavior. Derek Jennings wrote: Core dumps are an entirely normal part of running Linux. Anytime an application 'segfaults' a diagnostic dump is produced. If you run flaky applications then core dumps are the consequence. However ordinary users are generally not interested in core dumps and wish to suppress them. This is easily done by inserting the command ulimit -c 0 in the file ~/.bash_profile for a single user, or /etc/profile for all users. Looking at my own system. My laptop is producing coredumps (because I keep running Opera 6.1 which crashes regularly) and I can see the current setting by typing ulimit -a is to allow core dumps up to 1MB in size On the other hand ulimit -a on my desktop machine tells me that coredump size is set to zero, and I am not getting core dumps. So clearly there is a difference in the way my two computers are configured. The only difference that comes to mind is that the /home directory on the desktop was from a previous 8.2 install, while the laptop was a clean install. I will take a closer look to find out where the coredump size is being set. derek On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 2:05 pm, kjc wrote: I'm running the ftp 9.0 version. Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 02 December 2002 06:09 pm, kjc wrote: So far. Since installing MDK 9.0. I have experienced atleast ten core dumps. While running various tools etc.. What is up with that !!! What set up are you running? I have had 9.0 running since beta 1 and through 3 rc's and a final and now the store bought power pack and had no core dumps? I am always amazed at the variation in problems showing up on the list, course it isn't any dif than problems associated with that other OS as far as I can see, but it must have to do with the possible permutations of hardware running the software. Oh, I did have a problem early on with shutdowns, but that was cause I put the heatsink on my Duron processor backwards and it wasn't even seated, hot stuff! Lucky the processor still runs. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice
Go 9.0...and learn not to blame the software always for user errors. My first move to 9.0 was a disaster, but then i learnt that there were a lot of things I did wrong!! All is smooth now..much slicker! Richard Mollel --- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 10:48 am, Dennis Sue wrote: Hello folks, My harddrive is finally dying, and due to be replaced this weekend hopefully ). At this moment, there are only 2 good partitions left ( both Windows ). So anyway, with the new harddrive comes the opportunity to load whatever version of Linux I prefer. Up until yesterday, It was Mandrake 8.2. I liked this version, As did my wife, ( Plenty of card games, eye candy, ease of use for her, etc ). You get the point. Now, I am wondering about version 9. I am intrigued by KDE 3, and would probably like it. However, from this list it seems there are some bugs that I might not enjoy, Actually it seems like quite a few. I am wondering if it is worth it when the time comes to load version 9, or stick with 8.2, and wait for a new version say, 9.1 or something. Does version 9 have the card games like 8.2 ? Especially the gnome freecell, and Klondike ( solitaire ) ? Thank you for your input. I would say that if you can you should keep 8.2 AND install 9.0. Experiences of 9.0 have been very different. If you get a good install, as mine was, you will have few problems and you can then ditch 8.2 And yes, there are as many card games etc. as you could want Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: So many core dumps, what up !!
GNOME 2. The log out core dumps occur as well. Besides that. My mouse freezes at the GDM login prompt. I reboot to find all my settings have been lost (mail etc...) And, this time. The GNOME task bar is missing. I think that all of this is related to the XServer. It desperately needs some work. kjc wrote: I found that the core dumps occur upon log out from both the task bar and the pull down menu. KDE 3.0 So I switched to GNOME 2. Let's see if GNOME 2, gives me the same behavior. Derek Jennings wrote: Core dumps are an entirely normal part of running Linux. Anytime an application 'segfaults' a diagnostic dump is produced. If you run flaky applications then core dumps are the consequence. However ordinary users are generally not interested in core dumps and wish to suppress them. This is easily done by inserting the command ulimit -c 0 in the file ~/.bash_profile for a single user, or /etc/profile for all users. Looking at my own system. My laptop is producing coredumps (because I keep running Opera 6.1 which crashes regularly) and I can see the current setting by typing ulimit -a is to allow core dumps up to 1MB in size On the other hand ulimit -a on my desktop machine tells me that coredump size is set to zero, and I am not getting core dumps. So clearly there is a difference in the way my two computers are configured. The only difference that comes to mind is that the /home directory on the desktop was from a previous 8.2 install, while the laptop was a clean install. I will take a closer look to find out where the coredump size is being set. derek On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 2:05 pm, kjc wrote: I'm running the ftp 9.0 version. Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 02 December 2002 06:09 pm, kjc wrote: So far. Since installing MDK 9.0. I have experienced atleast ten core dumps. While running various tools etc.. What is up with that !!! What set up are you running? I have had 9.0 running since beta 1 and through 3 rc's and a final and now the store bought power pack and had no core dumps? I am always amazed at the variation in problems showing up on the list, course it isn't any dif than problems associated with that other OS as far as I can see, but it must have to do with the possible permutations of hardware running the software. Oh, I did have a problem early on with shutdowns, but that was cause I put the heatsink on my Duron processor backwards and it wasn't even seated, hot stuff! Lucky the processor still runs. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: So many core dumps, what up !!
Looks like the core dumps are a symptom of something sick about your machine. Have you made any changes to central components of the software? If you can find an application that crashes you can start in a terminal window, then you will often get a clue printed. derek On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 2:58 pm, kjc wrote: GNOME 2. The log out core dumps occur as well. Besides that. My mouse freezes at the GDM login prompt. I reboot to find all my settings have been lost (mail etc...) And, this time. The GNOME task bar is missing. I think that all of this is related to the XServer. It desperately needs some work. kjc wrote: I found that the core dumps occur upon log out from both the task bar and the pull down menu. KDE 3.0 So I switched to GNOME 2. Let's see if GNOME 2, gives me the same behavior. Derek Jennings wrote: Core dumps are an entirely normal part of running Linux. Anytime an application 'segfaults' a diagnostic dump is produced. If you run flaky applications then core dumps are the consequence. However ordinary users are generally not interested in core dumps and wish to suppress them. This is easily done by inserting the command ulimit -c 0 in the file ~/.bash_profile for a single user, or /etc/profile for all users. Looking at my own system. My laptop is producing coredumps (because I keep running Opera 6.1 which crashes regularly) and I can see the current setting by typing ulimit -a is to allow core dumps up to 1MB in size On the other hand ulimit -a on my desktop machine tells me that coredump size is set to zero, and I am not getting core dumps. So clearly there is a difference in the way my two computers are configured. The only difference that comes to mind is that the /home directory on the desktop was from a previous 8.2 install, while the laptop was a clean install. I will take a closer look to find out where the coredump size is being set. derek On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 2:05 pm, kjc wrote: I'm running the ftp 9.0 version. Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 02 December 2002 06:09 pm, kjc wrote: So far. Since installing MDK 9.0. I have experienced atleast ten core dumps. While running various tools etc.. What is up with that !!! What set up are you running? I have had 9.0 running since beta 1 and through 3 rc's and a final and now the store bought power pack and had no core dumps? I am always amazed at the variation in problems showing up on the list, course it isn't any dif than problems associated with that other OS as far as I can see, but it must have to do with the possible permutations of hardware running the software. Oh, I did have a problem early on with shutdowns, but that was cause I put the heatsink on my Duron processor backwards and it wasn't even seated, hot stuff! Lucky the processor still runs. --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice
- Original Message - From: Tru64 User [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice Go 9.0...and learn not to blame the software always for user errors. My first move to 9.0 was a disaster, but then i learnt that there were a lot of things I did wrong!! All is smooth now..much slicker! Richard Mollel --- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 10:48 am, Dennis Sue wrote: Hello folks, My harddrive is finally dying, and due to be replaced this weekend hopefully ). At this moment, there are only 2 good partitions left ( both Windows ). So anyway, with the new harddrive comes the opportunity to load whatever version of Linux I prefer. Up until yesterday, It was Mandrake 8.2. I liked this version, As did my wife, ( Plenty of card games, eye candy, ease of use for her, etc ). You get the point. Now, I am wondering about version 9. I am intrigued by KDE 3, and would probably like it. However, from this list it seems there are some bugs that I might not enjoy, Actually it seems like quite a few. I am wondering if it is worth it when the time comes to load version 9, or stick with 8.2, and wait for a new version say, 9.1 or something. Does version 9 have the card games like 8.2 ? Especially the gnome freecell, and Klondike ( solitaire ) ? Thank you for your input. I would say that if you can you should keep 8.2 AND install 9.0. Experiences of 9.0 have been very different. If you get a good install, as mine was, you will have few problems and you can then ditch 8.2 And yes, there are as many card games etc. as you could want Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from Ok It's decided then, Mandrake 9 here we come ! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: So many core dumps, what up !!
I installed the NVidia XServer driver. And, it looks like the XServer was the culprit. The result is like night and day. Why this driver was not included is a mystery to me. Derek Jennings wrote: Looks like the core dumps are a symptom of something sick about your machine. Have you made any changes to central components of the software? If you can find an application that crashes you can start in a terminal window, then you will often get a clue printed. derek On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 2:58 pm, kjc wrote: GNOME 2. The log out core dumps occur as well. Besides that. My mouse freezes at the GDM login prompt. I reboot to find all my settings have been lost (mail etc...) And, this time. The GNOME task bar is missing. I think that all of this is related to the XServer. It desperately needs some work. kjc wrote: I found that the core dumps occur upon log out from both the task bar and the pull down menu. KDE 3.0 So I switched to GNOME 2. Let's see if GNOME 2, gives me the same behavior. Derek Jennings wrote: Core dumps are an entirely normal part of running Linux. Anytime an application 'segfaults' a diagnostic dump is produced. If you run flaky applications then core dumps are the consequence. However ordinary users are generally not interested in core dumps and wish to suppress them. This is easily done by inserting the command ulimit -c 0 in the file ~/.bash_profile for a single user, or /etc/profile for all users. Looking at my own system. My laptop is producing coredumps (because I keep running Opera 6.1 which crashes regularly) and I can see the current setting by typing ulimit -a is to allow core dumps up to 1MB in size On the other hand ulimit -a on my desktop machine tells me that coredump size is set to zero, and I am not getting core dumps. So clearly there is a difference in the way my two computers are configured. The only difference that comes to mind is that the /home directory on the desktop was from a previous 8.2 install, while the laptop was a clean install. I will take a closer look to find out where the coredump size is being set. derek On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 2:05 pm, kjc wrote: I'm running the ftp 9.0 version. Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 02 December 2002 06:09 pm, kjc wrote: So far. Since installing MDK 9.0. I have experienced atleast ten core dumps. While running various tools etc.. What is up with that !!! What set up are you running? I have had 9.0 running since beta 1 and through 3 rc's and a final and now the store bought power pack and had no core dumps? I am always amazed at the variation in problems showing up on the list, course it isn't any dif than problems associated with that other OS as far as I can see, but it must have to do with the possible permutations of hardware running the software. Oh, I did have a problem early on with shutdowns, but that was cause I put the heatsink on my Duron processor backwards and it wasn't even seated, hot stuff! Lucky the processor still runs. --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Dynamic IP
Hi Guys I'm using Mandrake 9 and enjoy using it, so far with no major headaches. I would now like to set up a mail server with web access for my own use whilst travelling (I'm going to South Africa on holioday tomorrow). I have a cable connection with a dynamically assigned IP and using a Linksys DSL/Cable router with my Linux PC connected via one of the available 4 LAN ports. Having set up an account with no-ip.com I have installed the client on my pc and think it updates my IP automatically, however I am a bit confused with where the router fits into all this. If my Dynamic IP changes the router will automatically remain connected. I have set up Mandrake using a static IP, and enabled a route to the PC using the routers DMZ function. Can I safely assume that this would give me access to my PC, just by entering the blahblah.no-ip.com address ? Does anyone have any suggestions for a webmail server ? I know the easiest way is just to forward all my mail to my ISP's facility - but thats not why I changed over to Linux a few years ago. I trust someone has a similar setup and can chuck me a few pointers. Regards Mark A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [linux] [newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4
well for max file sizes, i found out for win95/win98 its 4Gb-1Kb, and for ntfs its 4Gb-1byte, on ntfs5.1 its t big to cause anyone any problems, in the trillion bytes range. So the 2Gb limit i'm having is not the target max file size limits. NTFS r/w problems only occur when the drive is in the Linux machine, not remotely connected across networks. Am i right in thinking it doesn't effect tape devices because there not block devices ? -Original Message- From: Joseph Braddock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 December 2002 5:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [linux] [newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4 I'm just picking up on the tail end of this thread, so someone might have already answered this. I'm assuming your NT partition is setup with FAT. If so, FAT (Win9x, WinNT) has a 2GB limit. That's why when drives larger than 2GB first appeared, they were set up with multiple 2GB partitions. I believe that FAT32 and NTFS gets around this. Problem is that NTFS is currently read-only in Linux (AFAIK). Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dynamic IP
Well, I have a somewhat similar situation and I have an account for Dynamic DNS with tzo.com. I do not have a black box router though. My router is a Linux box running ssh. So I just ssh to this box first and then I can ssh to my internal machines from there. Does your router have any such telnet/ssh facility? Port forwarding to your internal machine can also work if your router privides that. i.e you can set it up such that any connections to port 22 (ssh) get redirected to port 22 on the internal machine. Just some thoughts. Nikunj. --- Mark Annandale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys I'm using Mandrake 9 and enjoy using it, so far with no major headaches. I would now like to set up a mail server with web access for my own use whilst travelling (I'm going to South Africa on holioday tomorrow). I have a cable connection with a dynamically assigned IP and using a Linksys DSL/Cable router with my Linux PC connected via one of the available 4 LAN ports. Having set up an account with no-ip.com I have installed the client on my pc and think it updates my IP automatically, however I am a bit confused with where the router fits into all this. If my Dynamic IP changes the router will automatically remain connected. I have set up Mandrake using a static IP, and enabled a route to the PC using the routers DMZ function. Can I safely assume that this would give me access to my PC, just by entering the blahblah.no-ip.com address ? Does anyone have any suggestions for a webmail server ? I know the easiest way is just to forward all my mail to my ISP's facility - but thats not why I changed over to Linux a few years ago. I trust someone has a similar setup and can chuck me a few pointers. Regards Mark A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] internet sharing help needed
What is your connection??? When I had dialup.. I created files in /etc/ppp called: ip-up.local and ip-down.local Those files are automatically run when the connection goes up or down.. in ip-up.local I put this line: /etc/firewall/gShield.rc That brings the firewall up when the connection goes up. if you have cable or dsl.. you can put it at the end of the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local which will bring it up at the end of the boot process. I have it in both because I use pppoe for my ADSL... can't hurt any for you to do the same.. been running it this way for years now with no problems.. Doesn't gSheild just rule??? :-) I've never seen the GUI config.. whats it like rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of magnet Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 8:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] internet sharing help needed Hi Franki, It was late and I was getting tired when I tried it last. You are, of course correct about gShield just being a script. I was getting confused with the tar file configuration GUI that is an optional extra, which has to be made. Anyway, here is a brief what I did for anyone else reading this. Got the GUI to compile and install AFTER placing gShield scripts in /etc/firewall and editing gShield.conf file to suit my IP ranges. Fired it up and amazing... it started to work right away :) Now... last few questions for this query... Can I now uninstall shorewall from this machine. it isnt running anyway and I don't ever plan to use it EVER again after the last few weeks of grief it has caused me? ;-) How do get the gShield.rc script to be executed on booting the machine rather than opening up a console as su and typing /etc/firewall/gShield.rc each time? regards magnet = On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 6:19 am, Franki wrote: There is no compilation of gShield.. its just shell scripts.. just download the tarball from their site.. uncompress it (if you have midnight commander you can just press enter over the tarball to enter it and just copy the stuff into /etc/firewall with F5. if you don't have mc.. you should, urpmi mc) , and dump the lot in /etc/firewall then have a look in /etc/firewall/gShield.conf Possibly the best config file I have seen for simplicity.. it tells you the options you can use, and the defaults are most often correct.. The ICS is in that config file.. select MULTI=YES, and further down NAT=YES then make sure that the network address in /etc/firewall/NATS matches your internal network.. (ie 192.168.0.0, 10.0.0.x etc) thats it... when gSheild is fired up, you'll have NAT,, nothing to it. repeat, THERE IS NO COMPILATION WITH gShield. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of magnet Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 9:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] internet sharing help needed On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 1:07 am, Brian Parish wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 01:59, magnet wrote: Hi all, Well back from the dead once again after another fresh install following a lost battle trying to get a firewall installed and working, damn that shorewall! Machine is running mdk 9.0. So here is my question... How do I manually configure my main machine to share it's modem connection to the other 5 machines on my LAN? This is my /etc/sysconfig/network file: NETWORKING=yes FORWARD_IPV4=true HOSTNAME=linux1.local.net DOMAINNAME=local.net GATEWAY=192.168.0.1 GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 The other machines are all using the 192.168.0.xxx range and all point to 192.168.0.1 as the gateway they should be using. I do NOT want to use the control centre because it demands installing shorewall, which has been the biggest problem of all here causing no end of trouble with blocked ports, breaking samba and ftp. I simple hate it and the documentation isn't simple enough for me to understand how to write iptables rules yet to achieve a fully secure machine. Hope some of you will take the time to offer some advice on this. regards magnet I too gave up on shorewall. Grab gShield. Every feature you could wish for. Configured with a single simple conf file. You be up an sharing in about 2 minutes - 5 if you read the fine print. HTH Brian Cheers Brian, but I tried the mandrake rpm files which failed, and then tried to compile gShield from source which also didn't go too well. Can you explain how you set your ICS up please. My current situation is shorewall is installed (by default as soon as I used MCC to enable internet sharing) but it set to not start up at boot in services. Did you uninstall shorewall completely and not use MCC to set-up/enable ICS and just depend on gShield to get the results you were after? If I enable it, then this system changes my static IP
Re: [newbie] Dynamic IP
On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 4:23 pm, Nikunj Bansal wrote: Well, I have a somewhat similar situation and I have an account for Dynamic DNS with tzo.com. I do not have a black box router though. My router is a Linux box running ssh. So I just ssh to this box first and then I can ssh to my internal machines from there. Does your router have any such telnet/ssh facility? Port forwarding to your internal machine can also work if your router privides that. i.e you can set it up such that any connections to port 22 (ssh) get redirected to port 22 on the internal machine. Just some thoughts. Thanks for your advice. I can do port forwarding with my router, just wasn't sure about what ports to use - or how to use SSH - any pointers :-) ? regards Mark A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: So many core dumps, what up !!
On Tuesday December 3 2002 08:43 am, Derek Jennings wrote: Core dumps are an entirely normal part of running Linux. Anytime an application 'segfaults' a diagnostic dump is produced. If you run flaky applications then core dumps are the consequence. http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ Y'all can form your own opinion. Mine is occaisonal segfaults are software, frequent and/or random ones are hardware caused. Linux crashes, it just doesn't take the whole OS down with it ;) However ordinary users are generally not interested in core dumps and wish to suppress them. This is easily done by inserting the command ulimit -c 0 in the file ~/.bash_profile for a single user, or /etc/profile for all users. These lines should be in /etc/profile just by doin recommended or expert Mandrake install. IIRC, this has been the case for quite some time. # Users generally won't see annoyng core files [ $UID = 0 ] ulimit -S -c 100 /dev/null 21 I get occasional segfaults, always associated with certain apps, but no core files. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Samba authentication. It won't let me in :(
Hi everyone, I have tried finding a solution in the archives of newbie and expert, but this won't get me anywhere. Also mandrakeuser.org has nothing for me... I am doing something very wrong with samba authentication. I have user paul on my linux box. I also have user paul on a winblows pc. (Call that 'log in'? ;) I have added user paul for samba, as root: smbuser -a paul With smbpasswd -U paul I set the samba password to the loginpassword I use on linux and also on the winblows machine. Workgroup name in smb.conf and winblows is identical. Running testparm shows no problems in smb.conf. Problem occurs with and without user.map file. And what does /var/log/samba/log.p400 tell me: [2002/12/03 17:20:27, 0] passdb/pampass.c:smb_pam_passcheck(827) smb_pam_passcheck: PAM: smb_pam_auth failed - Rejecting User paul ! [2002/12/03 17:20:30, 0] passdb/pampass.c:smb_pam_passcheck(827) smb_pam_passcheck: PAM: smb_pam_auth failed - Rejecting User paul ! [2002/12/03 17:20:34, 0] passdb/pampass.c:smb_pam_passcheck(827) smb_pam_passcheck: PAM: smb_pam_auth failed - Rejecting User paul ! As there is info in the logfile, there is a connection to the linux machine. (I know the network setup is okay, since FTP works just fine.) The windows (98) end of things state: Error 86: The specified network password is not correct. Type the correct password, or contact your network administrator. So it is just the samba authentication that blows up. Does anyone have a pointer for me? Thanks. Paul -- On a Bucharest elevator: The lift is being fixed for the next days. During that time we regret that you will be unbearable. http://nlpagan.net-Linux Mandrake 8.2 - Sylpheed 0.8.6 Help Microsoft combat software piracy: give Linux to a friend today! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] unreadable files? :-/
Greetings, I am having a strange thing happen I am quite certain that just a couple days ago I was able to read, and even edit, a file/s. Now I am not even able to read them. Not as plain text anyway. They are now being identified as unknown type. When I open them, they are just so much code. :-/ Now, unless I have completely gone off my rocker, something strange is happening here.and I don't know what it is. Could somebody who is running Mdk 9.0 out there have a look in /boot, and check the files; message-text or message-graphic, and verify for me whether they are plain text files that can be read? I have read permission on them, and even as root I get the same thing. I'm experiencing a glitch with lilo, and am curious about this happening. TIA for any help. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dynamic IP
Sure. Your distro CDs should have the OpenSSH software. The RPMs are named like openssh-common, openssh-server, openssh-client. Install them on ur Linux box. The installation will also create a default setup good to go as a server on port 22. You can tweak all that in /etc/ssh/sshd.conf. Test it out by issuing the ssh localhost command. It should connect, ask you for ur login password and drop you into a shell. No need to use the insecure telnet afterwards. SSH sessions are secured using encryption. Lots of enhancements can be done using SSH. Stuff like tunneling other insecure protocols like IMAP or X over the SSH channel, doing client authentication using client keys or single sign on to the entire network can be achieved easily using SSH. There is even a secure file copy (scp) along with it. Rest is RTFM :-) Nikunj. --- Mark Annandale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 4:23 pm, Nikunj Bansal wrote: Well, I have a somewhat similar situation and I have an account for Dynamic DNS with tzo.com. I do not have a black box router though. My router is a Linux box running ssh. So I just ssh to this box first and then I can ssh to my internal machines from there. Does your router have any such telnet/ssh facility? Port forwarding to your internal machine can also work if your router privides that. i.e you can set it up such that any connections to port 22 (ssh) get redirected to port 22 on the internal machine. Just some thoughts. Thanks for your advice. I can do port forwarding with my router, just wasn't sure about what ports to use - or how to use SSH - any pointers :-) ? regards Mark A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dynamic IP
Oh, I shud have mentioned. There are other RPMs named openssh-*. You might need or want to install some or all of those also. Good luck. --- Nikunj Bansal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. Your distro CDs should have the OpenSSH software. The RPMs are named like openssh-common, openssh-server, openssh-client. Install them on ur Linux box. The installation will also create a default setup good to go as a server on port 22. You can tweak all that in /etc/ssh/sshd.conf. Test it out by issuing the ssh localhost command. It should connect, ask you for ur login password and drop you into a shell. No need to use the insecure telnet afterwards. SSH sessions are secured using encryption. Lots of enhancements can be done using SSH. Stuff like tunneling other insecure protocols like IMAP or X over the SSH channel, doing client authentication using client keys or single sign on to the entire network can be achieved easily using SSH. There is even a secure file copy (scp) along with it. Rest is RTFM :-) Nikunj. --- Mark Annandale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 4:23 pm, Nikunj Bansal wrote: Well, I have a somewhat similar situation and I have an account for Dynamic DNS with tzo.com. I do not have a black box router though. My router is a Linux box running ssh. So I just ssh to this box first and then I can ssh to my internal machines from there. Does your router have any such telnet/ssh facility? Port forwarding to your internal machine can also work if your router privides that. i.e you can set it up such that any connections to port 22 (ssh) get redirected to port 22 on the internal machine. Just some thoughts. Thanks for your advice. I can do port forwarding with my router, just wasn't sure about what ports to use - or how to use SSH - any pointers :-) ? regards Mark A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dynamic IP
hi Mark, ssh runs on port 22, so if you want to ssh into your machine, open port 22 on your router and forward it to the internal ip of your Mandrake box. to give my take on your original question, you can use the following combination for your webmail. Mail Transport Agent - postfix Imap - courier Web server - apache Webmail - squirrelmail as always there are alternatives, but this combination was suggested for simplicity of installation and availability of rpms for Mandrake. remember you may also have to perform the forwarding on your router for port 80 (for webmail) and port 25 (for postfix) - Original Message - From: Mark Annandale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Dynamic IP On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 4:23 pm, Nikunj Bansal wrote: Well, I have a somewhat similar situation and I have an account for Dynamic DNS with tzo.com. I do not have a black box router though. My router is a Linux box running ssh. So I just ssh to this box first and then I can ssh to my internal machines from there. Does your router have any such telnet/ssh facility? Port forwarding to your internal machine can also work if your router privides that. i.e you can set it up such that any connections to port 22 (ssh) get redirected to port 22 on the internal machine. Just some thoughts. Thanks for your advice. I can do port forwarding with my router, just wasn't sure about what ports to use - or how to use SSH - any pointers :-) ? regards Mark A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba authentication. It won't let me in :(
On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 4:29 pm, Paul wrote: Hi everyone, I have tried finding a solution in the archives of newbie and expert, but this won't get me anywhere. Also mandrakeuser.org has nothing for me... I am doing something very wrong with samba authentication. I have user paul on my linux box. I also have user paul on a winblows pc. (Call that 'log in'? ;) I have added user paul for samba, as root: smbuser -a paul With smbpasswd -U paul I set the samba password to the loginpassword I use on linux and also on the winblows machine. Workgroup name in smb.conf and winblows is identical. Running testparm shows no problems in smb.conf. Problem occurs with and without user.map file. And what does /var/log/samba/log.p400 tell me: [2002/12/03 17:20:27, 0] passdb/pampass.c:smb_pam_passcheck(827) smb_pam_passcheck: PAM: smb_pam_auth failed - Rejecting User paul ! [2002/12/03 17:20:30, 0] passdb/pampass.c:smb_pam_passcheck(827) smb_pam_passcheck: PAM: smb_pam_auth failed - Rejecting User paul ! [2002/12/03 17:20:34, 0] passdb/pampass.c:smb_pam_passcheck(827) smb_pam_passcheck: PAM: smb_pam_auth failed - Rejecting User paul ! As there is info in the logfile, there is a connection to the linux machine. (I know the network setup is okay, since FTP works just fine.) The windows (98) end of things state: Error 86: The specified network password is not correct. Type the correct password, or contact your network administrator. So it is just the samba authentication that blows up. Does anyone have a pointer for me? Thanks. Paul The most common reasons for this are case incompatibility (and don't forget that windows can easily confuse the issue by accepting both Paul and paul for the same person) or encrypted passwords. Does your smb.conf file have a line encrypt passwords = yes ? If you are certain that neither of these are the cause, you could always post your entire smb.conf file here and we'll look at it. Have you looked at your setup using Webmin? Although manually editing files gives a cleaner setup, it is often instructive to look at the situation through the eyes of the gui - it sometimes points out something that you have missed. HTH Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/
On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 4:33 pm, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I am having a strange thing happen I am quite certain that just a couple days ago I was able to read, and even edit, a file/s. Now I am not even able to read them. Not as plain text anyway. They are now being identified as unknown type. When I open them, they are just so much code. :-/ Now, unless I have completely gone off my rocker, something strange is happening here.and I don't know what it is. Could somebody who is running Mdk 9.0 out there have a look in /boot, and check the files; message-text or message-graphic, and verify for me whether they are plain text files that can be read? No they are not. If opened with KWrite they show characters arranged down the left-hand side - all of them. Why is this a concern to you? Is it just because you have had a problem, and in trying to trace it you came across these and panicked? If so, tell us more about the problem and we'll try to help. Sorry if you have started a thread about your problem elsewhere - if so, I've missed it. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba authentication. It won't let me in :(
On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 4:29 pm, Paul wrote: I have user paul on my linux box. I also have user paul on a winblows pc. (Call that 'log in'? ;) I have added user paul for samba, as root: smbuser -a paul With smbpasswd -U paul I set the samba password to the loginpassword I use on linux and also on the winblows machine. Paul, check man smbpasswd. I think your command was wrong. -U seems to be for changing passwords on a remote machine. Is that really what you were trying to do? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba authentication. It won't let me in :(
I've had this problem many times, to the point where fixing it is a normal part of setting up Samba now. Theeasiest fix i found was to log into Webmin, and browse to ServersSamba Windows File Sharing, and clicking on the Edit Samba Users and passwords link. Once in there, I would click on each users link, and when the Edit Samba User page opened I would re-typw the password which is already setup for that user, and UNcheck the No Password Required box. After that, a quick Samba restart would alsways do the trick. If that still didn't work, a quick reboot of the Windows PC or workstation would usually do the trick. Hope that helps! -- Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba authentication. It won't let me in :(
as a quick and simple fix, if you haven't done so, try enabling encrypted passwords in smb.conf. the syntax is to add in smb.conf in the [global] section encrypted passwords = yes in the default smb.conf shipped in Mdk , this line exists around line 100. if this doesn't help, install the samba documentation package, open this file and work your way thru it. /usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.whatever-version/docs/textdocs/DIAGNOSIS.txt tell the list which item the tests fails at, and i'm sure someone more capable than me would be able to use the info to help you. it probably wouldn't hurt to include your smb.conf. if you feel there are confidential stuff in it, just scramble it (in an obvious manner) hope it helps. - Original Message - From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:29 AM Subject: [newbie] Samba authentication. It won't let me in :( Hi everyone, I have tried finding a solution in the archives of newbie and expert, but this won't get me anywhere. Also mandrakeuser.org has nothing for me... I am doing something very wrong with samba authentication. I have user paul on my linux box. I also have user paul on a winblows pc. (Call that 'log in'? ;) I have added user paul for samba, as root: smbuser -a paul With smbpasswd -U paul I set the samba password to the loginpassword I use on linux and also on the winblows machine. Workgroup name in smb.conf and winblows is identical. Running testparm shows no problems in smb.conf. Problem occurs with and without user.map file. And what does /var/log/samba/log.p400 tell me: [2002/12/03 17:20:27, 0] passdb/pampass.c:smb_pam_passcheck(827) smb_pam_passcheck: PAM: smb_pam_auth failed - Rejecting User paul ! [2002/12/03 17:20:30, 0] passdb/pampass.c:smb_pam_passcheck(827) smb_pam_passcheck: PAM: smb_pam_auth failed - Rejecting User paul ! [2002/12/03 17:20:34, 0] passdb/pampass.c:smb_pam_passcheck(827) smb_pam_passcheck: PAM: smb_pam_auth failed - Rejecting User paul ! As there is info in the logfile, there is a connection to the linux machine. (I know the network setup is okay, since FTP works just fine.) The windows (98) end of things state: Error 86: The specified network password is not correct. Type the correct password, or contact your network administrator. So it is just the samba authentication that blows up. Does anyone have a pointer for me? Thanks. Paul -- On a Bucharest elevator: The lift is being fixed for the next days. During that time we regret that you will be unbearable. http://nlpagan.net-Linux Mandrake 8.2 - Sylpheed 0.8.6 Help Microsoft combat software piracy: give Linux to a friend today! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/
running Mkd9.0. message-text is Ascii text file. message-graphic is a binary file. - Original Message - From: Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:33 AM Subject: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/ Greetings, I am having a strange thing happen I am quite certain that just a couple days ago I was able to read, and even edit, a file/s. Now I am not even able to read them. Not as plain text anyway. They are now being identified as unknown type. When I open them, they are just so much code. :-/ Now, unless I have completely gone off my rocker, something strange is happening here.and I don't know what it is. Could somebody who is running Mdk 9.0 out there have a look in /boot, and check the files; message-text or message-graphic, and verify for me whether they are plain text files that can be read? I have read permission on them, and even as root I get the same thing. I'm experiencing a glitch with lilo, and am curious about this happening. TIA for any help. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/
On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 5:20 pm, Stormjumper wrote: running Mkd9.0. So am I message-text is Ascii text file. Strangest text file I've seen Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/
did you happen to open and save them in a M$windows application? On Tuesday 03 December 2002 12:20 pm, Stormjumper wrote: running Mkd9.0. message-text is Ascii text file. message-graphic is a binary file. - Original Message - From: Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:33 AM Subject: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/ Greetings, I am having a strange thing happen I am quite certain that just a couple days ago I was able to read, and even edit, a file/s. Now I am not even able to read them. Not as plain text anyway. They are now being identified as unknown type. When I open them, they are just so much code. :-/ Now, unless I have completely gone off my rocker, something strange is happening here.and I don't know what it is. Could somebody who is running Mdk 9.0 out there have a look in /boot, and check the files; message-text or message-graphic, and verify for me whether they are plain text files that can be read? I have read permission on them, and even as root I get the same thing. I'm experiencing a glitch with lilo, and am curious about this happening. TIA for any help. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com