Re: [newbie-it]nuova distro

2002-12-28 Thread gianni piazza
salve a tutti!
Ho installato Debian woody sul primo hard disk e vorrei poterla avviare con 
lilo che ho gia' installato e con il quale avvio Win sul primo hd e Mandrake 
sul secondo.Cosa si deve aggiungere al file lilo.conf?(ammesso che si faccia 
cosi'?)o come fare per rendere avviabili i tre os?
Grazie in anticipo!Ciao Gianni




[newbie-it] Help su Grep

2002-12-28 Thread Tommaso
Salve a tutti,
ho appena scoperto i programmi di ripping e mi sono subito istallato grep, ma 
con mia grande delusione non sono riuscito ad avere un file codificato .mp3 
ma solo un .ogg. Ho visto che xmms non ha alcun problema a leggerlo, ma 
purtroppo se volessi scambiarli sulla rete mi piacerebbe averli in formato 
.mp3. Ho allora provato a cambiare codificatore e da oggencode ho scaricato e 
scelto mp3encode, ma il file creato ha un estenzione strana e non è leggibile 
con xmms. Qualcuno sa quale sia il codificatore giusto?
Inoltre tutti i file codiicati mi vengono messi in una generica cartella mp3 
nella mia home directory. Come faccio a modificare a mio piacimento la 
destinazione dei file?
Come ultima domanda, poichè lavoro con kde, qualcuno conosce un programma di 
ripping e codifica on uguale fama di grep che però appartenga al progetto 
kde?
Grazie a tutti,
Tommaso




Re: [newbie-it] Help su Grep (grip)

2002-12-28 Thread freefred
On Saturday 28 December 2002 2:21 pm, Tommaso wrote about [newbie-it] Help su 
Grep:
 Salve a tutti,
 ho appena scoperto i programmi di ripping e mi sono subito istallato grep,

credo tu ti riferisca a grip.
vai sul tab config e poi in mp3
l'ultima riga, MP3 file format e' quella che ti serve cambiare.
metti mp3 invece che ogg e avrai degli mp3.
~/mp3/%A/%d/%t_%n.mp3
qui scegli anche in quale dir metterli e quante variabili
(nome del gruppo ecc.) fargli mettere.

bye

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Re: [newbie-it] Auguri!

2002-12-28 Thread Giorgio Griffon
Auguri in ultra ritardo, ma sinceri. E felice 2003 a tutti!
   Giorgio




Re: [newbie-it] compilare il kernel

2002-12-28 Thread tom
Alle 22:18, sabato 28 dicembre 2002, tom ha scritto:

 grazie..non mi ero accorto della cosaqui nella slack ho un data(ora
 giusta) 

scusa era una balla :))

Ciao , Tom






[newbie-it] visualizzare documenti in .html

2002-12-28 Thread tom
salve lista,
ultimamente quando vado a visualizzare documenti salvati dal web,
e la stessa documentazione e howto della distro, mi viene chiesto apri con
e l'unico che mi visualizza qualcosa è mozzilla (dopo averlo selezzionato dall 
albero dei programmi).
qualcuno sa come fare per poter aprire gli .html con qualunque browser 
(preferirei lo stesso koqueror) e con un klik di topo?
Grazie gia da ora.

p.s. ultime novita sul pc sono: installazione di un atra distro , compilazione 
di mplayer.
Anche se non credo che queste cose possano aver modificato il riconoscimento 
di file.html ve lo dico lo stessonon si sa mai..no è che ci capisca 
gran che:))

Ciao , Tom






Re: [newbie-it]nuova distro

2002-12-28 Thread tom
Alle 11:49, sabato 28 dicembre 2002, gianni piazza ha scritto:
 salve a tutti!
 Ho installato Debian woody sul primo hard disk e vorrei poterla avviare con
 lilo che ho gia' installato e con il quale avvio Win sul primo hd e
 Mandrake sul secondo.Cosa si deve aggiungere al file lilo.conf?(ammesso che
 si faccia cosi'?)o come fare per rendere avviabili i tre os?
 Grazie in anticipo!Ciao Gianni

devi aggiungere la chiamata al OS in lilo...devi vedere prima di tutto 
come viene riconosciuta la partizione di Debian (dai da console ]$df) 
.poi sapere dove viene montata in MDK e aggiustare queste poche righe
in lilo.conf (logicamente della mdk :)

image=/_percorso_/_della_/_nuova_/_distro_/boot/vmlinuz
label=Debian (o come la vuoi chiamre tu)
root=/dev/hdaX  (X da sostituire con il numero della partizione)
vga=normal
read-only

anche se non ho mai visto la Debian,credo che la chiamata possa andare,
in caso contrario controlla in /boot (della debian) come viene chiamata 
l'immagine del kernel e se non è vmlinuz (anche se non credo) sostituiscilo 
con il nome coretto.

P.S. non assicuro che quanto detto sia giusto :))
io uso grub.cmq prova lo stesso.al massimo riavvi con mdk.


fammi sapere se ho indovinato.

Ciao , Tom






Re: [newbie-it] Help su Grep (grip)

2002-12-28 Thread stormy
Credo che dovresti scaricarti Lame e installarlo 
ho avuto anchio lo stesso problema
http://lame.sourceforge.net/
 
  credo tu ti riferisca a grip.
  vai sul tab config e poi in mp3
  l'ultima riga, MP3 file format e' quella che ti serve cambiare.
  metti mp3 invece che ogg e avrai degli mp3.
  ~/mp3/%A/%d/%t_%n.mp3
  qui scegli anche in quale dir metterli e quante variabili
  (nome del gruppo ecc.) fargli mettere.
 
 Ok. hai individuato il programma ma non la soluzione giusta.
 Infatti seguendo i tuoi consigli sono riuscito soltanto a creare
 un file ogg con estenzione mp3 (illeggibile a xmms).
 A te questa soluzione funziona? quale encoder usi?
 Tommaso
 
 
 


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[newbie-it] Usb storage

2002-12-28 Thread Guido Milanese
Ho acquistato una macchina fotografica digitale per mia figlia e, con 
l'intenzione di usare la medesima in ambiente Linux, ho comprato il numero 8 
di una rivista (Linux pratico), numero dedicato alla fotografia sotto Linux. 
Per Mandrake 9.0 - la distribuzione che ho: versione PowerPack -- come primo 
passo la rivista suggerisce di utilizzare, ovviamente da root:

#   urpmi kernel-sources

La risposta che ottengo è: nessun pacchettto denominato kernel-sources.
(pacchettto con 3 't', tra l'altro...)

Qualche suggerimento?
Grazie!
gm

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Homepage: http://www.arsantiqua.org
GAUDETE IN DOMINO SEMPER






Re: [newbie-it] Help su Grep (grip)

2002-12-28 Thread freefred
On Saturday 28 December 2002 6:25 pm, Tommaso wrote about Re: [newbie-it] Help 
su Grep (grip):

 Ok. hai individuato il programma ma non la soluzione giusta.
 Infatti seguendo i tuoi consigli sono riuscito soltanto a creare
 un file ogg con estenzione mp3 (illeggibile a xmms).
 A te questa soluzione funziona? quale encoder usi?

si', funziona.
uso il gogo.

bye
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Re: [newbie-it] Help su Grep (grip)

2002-12-28 Thread Tommaso
Alle 20:03, sabato 28 dicembre 2002, freefred ha scritto:
 On Saturday 28 December 2002 6:25 pm, Tommaso wrote about Re: [newbie-it]

 si', funziona.
 uso il gogo.

Ok, ho capito che il problema era l'encoder. Ho istallato LAME e adesso è 
tutto ok.
Grazie.





Re: [newbie-it] Usb storage

2002-12-28 Thread Guido Milanese
On Saturday 28 December 2002 19:12, Guido Milanese wrote:
 Ho acquistato una macchina fotografica digitale per mia figlia e, con
 l'intenzione di usare la medesima in ambiente Linux, 
la macchina fotografica, non la figlia...

gm

-- 
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Vocal Ensemble Ars Antiqua, Genova, Italy
Homepage: http://www.arsantiqua.org
GAUDETE IN DOMINO SEMPER






Re: [newbie-it] Usb storage

2002-12-28 Thread e/io
Il sab, 2002-12-28 alle 20:34, Guido Milanese ha scritto:
 On Saturday 28 December 2002 19:12, Guido Milanese wrote:
  Ho acquistato una macchina fotografica digitale per mia figlia e, con
  l'intenzione di usare la medesima in ambiente Linux, 
 la macchina fotografica, non la figlia...

Con Mandrake 9 non devi ricompilare nulla.
Prima controlla se la tua macchinetta è supportata da Gphoto.
Se non lo è montala come un disco e cioè:
aggiungi a fstab la seguente riga
/dev/sda1  /mnt/photo  vfat   noauto,user  0 0
crea la dir /mnt/photo
Collegala e dai mount /mnt/photo
Ciao





Re: [newbie-it] Usb storage

2002-12-28 Thread miKe
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Alle 19:12, sabato 28 dicembre 2002, Guido Milanese , in merito a
[newbie-it] Usb storage,  ha scritto:
...

 # urpmi kernel-sources

 La risposta che ottengo è: nessun pacchettto denominato
 kernel-sources. (pacchettto con 3 't', tra l'altro...)

scrivendo solo kernel-sources non credo che il sistema possa
trovarlo, forse la rivista voleva indicare di indicare il nome
dei sorgenti

nel caso di mandrake dovrebbero chiamarsi
kernel-2.4.18-x.mkd.xxx.rpm

ti consigli di cercare il cd che li contiene quindi indicare il
nome corretto aiutandoti con [tab]

urpmi dovrebbe installare tutto il necessario, quindi anche
librerie ed headers (kernel-headers..mdk.rpm)

 Grazie!
 gm

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Re: [newbie-it] visualizzare documenti in .html

2002-12-28 Thread miKe
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Alle 18:03, sabato 28 dicembre 2002, tom , in merito a
[newbie-it] visualizzare documenti in .html,  ha scritto:
 salve lista,
 ultimamente quando vado a visualizzare documenti salvati dal
 web, e la stessa documentazione e howto della distro, mi viene
 chiesto apri con e l'unico che mi visualizza qualcosa è
 mozzilla (dopo averlo selezzionato dall albero dei programmi).
 qualcuno sa come fare per poter aprire gli .html con qualunque
 browser (preferirei lo stesso koqueror) e con un klik di topo?


vai su un html
click col dx del mouse
'modifica il tipo di file'
metti  konqueror come prima scelta..
;)

 Ciao , Tom


bye

miKe

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Re: [newbie-it] pop3

2002-12-28 Thread Paolo Tomiato
Gia'... oggi ero in viaggio e mentre guidavo mi chiedevo se la configurazione di
postfix che avevo effettuato fosse completa ed anche se a monte la
configurazione della rete x il mio dominio fosse corretta.

Alla luce di questi dubbi e della tua perplessita' credo che + tardi e dopo una
buona notte di sonno, mi andro' a rivedere un po' tutto.

Per rispondere alla tua domanda posso dirti che se mando un messaggio con
mittente [EMAIL PROTECTED] ad un account registrato su un fornitore di
servizio free tipo tiscali o libero la mail arriva regolarmente con l'smtp
corretto (mail.miodominio.com) ma se con uno di questi account faccio
l'operazione inversa e mando a [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nome.cognome
ribadisco essere alias di un user esistente) o anche a [EMAIL PROTECTED] il
messaggio sembra perdersi nel nulla... 

Quindi credo nn mi resti altro da fare che ricominciare tutto da capo!

Se penso che lo scopo ultimo di tutto questo lavoro e', in realta', creare una
lista con mailman temo che la strada sara'ancora lunga :((

Scusa se sono cosi' maldestro ma e' la prima volta che esco dalle configurazioni
fatte a clicconi e ho molto da imparare.


 scusa ma io mi sono basato sul fatto che smtp funzionava per cui davo
 per settato postfix o sendmail  le email che mandi dove vanno?
 francesco









Re: [newbie-it] pop3

2002-12-28 Thread francesco.melo
Paolo Tomiato wrote:


Gia'... oggi ero in viaggio e mentre guidavo mi chiedevo se la configurazione di
postfix che avevo effettuato fosse completa ed anche se a monte la
configurazione della rete x il mio dominio fosse corretta.

Alla luce di questi dubbi e della tua perplessita' credo che + tardi e dopo una
buona notte di sonno, mi andro' a rivedere un po' tutto.

Per rispondere alla tua domanda posso dirti che se mando un messaggio con
mittente [EMAIL PROTECTED] ad un account registrato su un fornitore di
servizio free tipo tiscali o libero la mail arriva regolarmente con l'smtp
corretto (mail.miodominio.com) ma se con uno di questi account faccio
l'operazione inversa e mando a [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nome.cognome
ribadisco essere alias di un user esistente) o anche a [EMAIL PROTECTED] il
messaggio sembra perdersi nel nulla... 

Quindi credo nn mi resti altro da fare che ricominciare tutto da capo!

Se penso che lo scopo ultimo di tutto questo lavoro e', in realta', creare una
lista con mailman temo che la strada sara'ancora lunga :((

Scusa se sono cosi' maldestro ma e' la prima volta che esco dalle configurazioni
fatte a clicconi e ho molto da imparare.


 

scusa ma io mi sono basato sul fatto che smtp funzionava per cui davo
per settato postfix o sendmail  le email che mandi dove vanno?
francesco




   




 

Allora  quello che puoi fare è questo:

puoi mettere in piedi un server smtp  di tipo postfix o sendmail ... io 
li configuro con webmin.. postfix è più semplice
una volta partiti ogni user della tua linuxbox
avrà un suo account di posta verso il qualce potrà spedire e ricevere . 
Ma occhio il tuo dominio  (per es. foo.casa ) all'esterno non esiste per 
cui nessuno potra mai risposndere a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
solo i gli appartenenti alla vpn o cmq alla rete .
Nel browser devi settare come smtp e pop l'ip dove risiede il server 
(192.168.1.0) .
Nel caso tu volessi far ricevere la posta al tuo [EMAIL PROTECTED] non devi 
far altro che reindirizzare con un alias la posta di [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
sul tuo utente in loco  e lo puoi fare configurando fetchmail sempre da 
webmin e poi ... se ti va scheduando il tutto perchè si controlli la 
posta periodicamente
ogni user ha la sua email quindi... il sitema al suo interno è stabile e 
robusto , io per sbaglio ho mandato una email da 724 mb ed il server  ( 
un athlon 1700+ se l'è macinata )
i clicconi sono comodi ma limitati e limitanti :))


fammi sapere

francesco




Re: [newbie] first message

2002-12-28 Thread Frans Ketelaars
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 23:10:41 -0200
Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 27 December 2002 08:30, Anne Wilson wrote:
  Mozilla.org's website have links and instructions for all the main plugins.
 
 Hi Anne Wilson 
 
 I have already downloaded. I'll give it a try.
 
  What have you tried, apart from Kmix?  Have you tried playing an .mp3 file,
  or a cd?  Are you getting system sounds?  Any info you can give us will
  help us to point to the next step
 
 Cd's, mp3's and system sounds are playing.
 The thing is that when I try to open a .kar file [ a kar file is a midi file 
 with lyrics] Kmid doesn't output any sound. It's possible to see it is 
 working because I can see when the text scrolls down, which presumably means 
 that it is really playing. Other midi files are working 
 fine in Kmidi.

Timidity should be able to play a .kar file according to 'man timidity'.
Kmid doesn't use a software synthesizer like Kmidi or Timidity but relies 
on a hardware syntesizer, either an external one connected to the 
gameport of the soundcard using a special cable or a _supported_
one on your soundcard.

In Kmid under settings  midi setup you can choose between the available
options. Btw, the SB Live has a supported onboard wavetable synthesizer.

 I have also had a bit of a headache trying to mount and unmount the cdrom. 
 Sometimes automount works but other times it simply and unexplicably says I 
 have not the access rights to the device.
 So, I tried 
 #mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
 
 But I don't know how exactly that device is called in Mandrake Linux.
 
 
 Thank you very much.
 
 JM

HTH,
 
-Frans


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Re: [newbie] first message

2002-12-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 1:10 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 On Friday 27 December 2002 08:30, Anne Wilson wrote:

  What have you tried, apart from Kmix?  Have you tried playing an .mp3
  file, or a cd?  Are you getting system sounds?  Any info you can give us
  will help us to point to the next step

 Cd's, mp3's and system sounds are playing.
 The thing is that when I try to open a .kar file [ a kar file is a midi
 file with lyrics] Kmid doesn't output any sound. It's possible to see it is
 working because I can see when the text scrolls down, which presumably
 means that it is really playing. Other midi files are working
 fine in Kmidi.

That sounds as though you are fine for most things.  I don't know .kar files, 
so I can't help on that.  I suggest that you start a new thread with a title 
'Playing .kar files' or similar, so that someone with experience of them will 
notice the post and come back to you.

 I have also had a bit of a headache trying to mount and unmount the cdrom.
 Sometimes automount works but other times it simply and unexplicably says I
 have not the access rights to the device.
 So, I tried
 #mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom

 But I don't know how exactly that device is called in Mandrake Linux.

Are you using KDE?  There are some issues with supermount under Mandrake 9.0 - 
it works well for some and not at all for others, so there's a certain amount 
of trial and error.  One thing is for certain - if you set up supermount and 
then manually mount or umount you will cause yourself problems, so you need 
to set up one option, try it out, and if it doesn't work properly go on to 
the second option.

Option 1 - supermount.  Go to Mandrake Control Centre, select Mount Points, 
and click on your cd drive icon.  You may see that it is listed as hdx (where 
x = another letter depending on your other drives) or as scd0 or scd1.  If 
your drive is a cd-rw it will need to be scd0 or scd1, so come back to us if 
it isn't.  If it's only a cd reader either setting is OK.

You will find that some options are already set there, depending upon what is 
already written into your /etc/fstab.  You may need to change things under 
the Options screen.  First, make sure that 'user' is selected - otherwise 
only root will be able to access the drive.  Make sure that supermount is 
selected.  If this is a straight forward cd reader drive, that's all you need 
to do.

If it's a cd-rw drive, you will need to open up the Advanced tab, and unselect 
'read only'.

If supermount is going to work for you, that should do it.  By the way, be 
careful to OK things, and watch out for the message that comes, rather 
slowly, in small type near the top of the screen asking you if you want to 
save your changes.  Otherwise nothing will be changed.  If you have saved 
correctly the changes will be written to your /etc/fstab.

Option 2 - if supermount does not work properly for you (simply mounting and 
umounting as it would under windows, i.e. when a disc is inserted or ejected) 
then you will need to get rid of it.  Simply follow Option 1 steps again, 
unselecting supermount.  Again, be careful how you come out, making sure the 
settings are saved.

If you do this you will need to create an icon on your desktop (right-click  
Create New  CD/DVD ROM Device) which will allow you to mount and unmount 
from a right-click menu.

Either way, come back if you need help.  If you do, find /etc/fstab and copy 
it into your message, so that we can see what's happening.

Good luck

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Installing a Conceptronic 56K Modem on Linux Mandrake 9.0

2002-12-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 12:01 am, Aurélio Diniz wrote:
 Thanks Jason.
 I was going to post that same question but you answered it before i ask :)
 My modem is working fine now.

 Does anyone knows a good fax program with a nice interface thats runs on
 KDE? I installed Hylafax but it is only available at the command line. I
 suppose that i need a frontend for it.

I find that the simplest way is to Print to Fax from KWrite.  The only problem 
with it is that you need to locate the directory where it writes the temp 
files (I can't remember where, so you may have to try one, get a failed send, 
then read the log, which you can do from an icon on the send screen, to 
locate it) and change permissions so that you can write to it.  Otherwise, 
couldn't be simpler.

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Using a Cyrix cpu with MMX

2002-12-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 27 Dec 2002 2:33 pm, Poogle wrote:
 On Friday 27 Dec 2002 H:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Friday 27 Dec 2002 1:32 pm, Poogle wrote:
   On Friday 27 Dec 2002 H:40 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
How likely is it that I could get 9.0 or 8.2 to install with this
cpu? Has anyone got a working system with this architecture?
   
Anne
  
   Anne,
   I installed it on a Cyrix box without problems (something like a 366
   IIRC but I don't have access to it to check at the moment)

Well, I tried it this morning.  It's a 233 with MMX, so it's at the bottom end 
of supportable hardware, and it failed utterly.  I got as far as F1 for 
options, F2 to install, then a blank screen, and absolutely nothing.  I'm not 
sure it's worth spending too much time, and certainly not money, on this 
machine.  If anyone knows a likely cause, I'll have one more try, but I'm not 
too hopeful.

Anne


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[newbie] spadmin

2002-12-28 Thread Anne Wilson
I want to explore Star Office 6, but am finding it frustrating that some basic 
things are not yet set up.  I know that I want to run spadmin as root to sort 
out fonts and printers, but can't find how to do that.  I thought I had 
located the correct program (under /usr/lib/staroffice/program) but when I 
tried that I got the setup program, as though for a new install.

What am I doing wrong?

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Using a Cyrix cpu with MMX

2002-12-28 Thread Simon Prosser
On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 11:55 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 27 Dec 2002 2:33 pm, Poogle wrote:
  On Friday 27 Dec 2002 H:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
   On Friday 27 Dec 2002 1:32 pm, Poogle wrote:
On Friday 27 Dec 2002 H:40 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 How likely is it that I could get 9.0 or 8.2 to install with this
 cpu? Has anyone got a working system with this architecture?

 Anne
   
Anne,
I installed it on a Cyrix box without problems (something like a 366
IIRC but I don't have access to it to check at the moment)

 Well, I tried it this morning.  It's a 233 with MMX, so it's at the bottom
 end of supportable hardware, and it failed utterly.  I got as far as F1 for
 options, F2 to install, then a blank screen, and absolutely nothing.  I'm
 not sure it's worth spending too much time, and certainly not money, on
 this machine.  If anyone knows a likely cause, I'll have one more try, but
 I'm not too hopeful.

 Anne
I run Debian 3 on a P166MMX I use it as my firewall/mailserver and when its 
not dialing for me it chews seti@home (takes 60 hours per chunk tho! :D)
Did your install fail because Mandrake is compiled for i586 and your box is 
i486? 
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Re: [newbie] File types

2002-12-28 Thread John Richard Smith
Robin Turner wrote:


John Richard Smith wrote:


What is the practicle difference between RAW and ACII  files



Are you talking about text files?  AFAIK, raw text means ASCII.

Sir Robin


Sorry about the delay in coming back to you I have a bad cold
and went to bed early last night.

The context is pictures displayed in gimp of .pnm files scanned
from transparencies.Gimp asks me so save as RAW or ACII, and I know
not the practicle differences.I'm especially concerned about the
ability of these files to be read in other OS's .
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Re: [newbie] Using a Cyrix cpu with MMX

2002-12-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 12:11 pm, Simon Prosser wrote:
 On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 11:55 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Friday 27 Dec 2002 2:33 pm, Poogle wrote:
   On Friday 27 Dec 2002 H:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 27 Dec 2002 1:32 pm, Poogle wrote:
 On Friday 27 Dec 2002 H:40 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  How likely is it that I could get 9.0 or 8.2 to install with this
  cpu? Has anyone got a working system with this architecture?
 
  Anne

 Anne,
 I installed it on a Cyrix box without problems (something like a
 366 IIRC but I don't have access to it to check at the moment)
 
  Well, I tried it this morning.  It's a 233 with MMX, so it's at the
  bottom end of supportable hardware, and it failed utterly.  I got as far
  as F1 for options, F2 to install, then a blank screen, and absolutely
  nothing.  I'm not sure it's worth spending too much time, and certainly
  not money, on this machine.  If anyone knows a likely cause, I'll have
  one more try, but I'm not too hopeful.
 
  Anne

 I run Debian 3 on a P166MMX I use it as my firewall/mailserver and when its
 not dialing for me it chews seti@home (takes 60 hours per chunk tho! :D)
 Did your install fail because Mandrake is compiled for i586 and your box is
 i486?

Now that sounds likely.  Is 8.2 also compiled for i586?  I don't remember.

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Re: [newbie] File types

2002-12-28 Thread Ralph Slooten
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 12:45:23 +
John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry about the delay in coming back to you I have a bad cold
 and went to bed early last night.
 
 The context is pictures displayed in gimp of .pnm files scanned
 from transparencies.Gimp asks me so save as RAW or ACII, and I know
 not the practicle differences.I'm especially concerned about the
 ability of these files to be read in other OS's .
 John

LOL... I had this same problem last night ;-) I downloaded and compiled
a program called gps3d which contains a globe of the world. The
image-map is a .pnm file, and it stated there that it had to be saved in
binary form.. well, gimp gives it as either ascii or raw, neither of
which work with the program. It can open it with no problems, but after
saving (even the origional file), the programs cannot open the map.

I would sugest using another more common form (jpg, tif, png ...
whatever), which all OS's can open. Unfortunately I don't have this
choice with this program, so I'll just have to make-do with the
origional map.

Greetings
Ralph
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[newbie] Generic USB Storage Device

2002-12-28 Thread John Richard Smith
I have this  new usb storage device , a reader which
KDE CC - info - usb devices detects as,

Generic USB Storage Device

Manufacturer: Generic
Serial #: 0AEC30501A007

class  0  (interface)
subclass   0
protocol   0
usb version 1.16

vendor  IDOxaec  (Neodio)
Product ID0x5010(ND5010 Card Reader)
Revision  1.0


speed 12 Mbits/s
channels  0
Max. Packet Size  0



What do I do next to get mandrake to read the media.
I guess I have to create a device somewhere like /mnt/usbstorage
and point it in some way to the way the system recognises it.

John



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[newbie] Fickle camera connection fstab

2002-12-28 Thread Rob Lindsay
I have a Nikon 995 which downloads through the usb interface. 

I am having a lot of trouble with mounting working intermittently.

There are times when I get a dialogue saying that /dev/sda1 cannot be found.

My only way around this is to go into fstab as root through nano or somesuch 
editor and make a minor spacing change, save and then the ability to mount 
the camera returns.

Has anyone else had similar problems? Is there a solution?

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Re: [newbie] File types

2002-12-28 Thread John Richard Smith
Ralph Slooten wrote:


On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 12:45:23 +
John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

Sorry about the delay in coming back to you I have a bad cold
and went to bed early last night.

The context is pictures displayed in gimp of .pnm files scanned
from transparencies.Gimp asks me so save as RAW or ACII, and I know
not the practicle differences.I'm especially concerned about the
ability of these files to be read in other OS's .
John
   


LOL... I had this same problem last night ;-) I downloaded and compiled
a program called gps3d which contains a globe of the world. The
image-map is a .pnm file, and it stated there that it had to be saved in
binary form.. well, gimp gives it as either ascii or raw, neither of
which work with the program. It can open it with no problems, but after
saving (even the origional file), the programs cannot open the map.

I would sugest using another more common form (jpg, tif, png ...
whatever), which all OS's can open. Unfortunately I don't have this
choice with this program, so I'll just have to make-do with the
origional map.

Greetings
Ralph
 


 

Yes, that seems the practicle solution, use gimp to convert the .pnm
to .jpeg or something.

But I still don't really understand the practical difference between RAW
and ACII as asked by gimp in this context. As it happens I did
ordiinally accept RAW and the .pnm files it creates gimp has had no
problem converting to .jpeg so I'm not worried but had I chosen ACII
what would of been the outcome I wonder ?

John

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Re: [newbie] Possible scalper worm

2002-12-28 Thread Mark Weaver
Dennis Myers wrote:

Below is output from chkrootkit on my workstation.  Notice the third line. I 
have looked for the files that this infection is supposed to put in /tmp and 
found nothing. The next variant slapper as you see is not detected.  I have 
updated  openssl and do not run Apache on this machine, so the point of this 
is what to check further and why would chkrootkit see this at all.  Anyone 
have a similar readout? Any suggestions are appreciated. TIA
snipped the readout above this cause all was nothing found

Checking `rexedcs'... not found
Checking `sniffer'... Checking `wted'... nothing deleted
Checking `scalper'... Warning: Possible Scalper Worm installed
Checking `slapper'... not infected
Checking `z2'...
nothing deleted

Dennis,

How exstensively is this machine configured? It may just be easier to 
reload the machine after datafiles are backed up.

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Re: [newbie] File types

2002-12-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 1:44 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Ralph Slooten wrote:
 On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 12:45:23 +
 
 John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry about the delay in coming back to you I have a bad cold
 and went to bed early last night.
 
 The context is pictures displayed in gimp of .pnm files scanned
 from transparencies.Gimp asks me so save as RAW or ACII, and I know
 not the practicle differences.I'm especially concerned about the
 ability of these files to be read in other OS's .
 John
 
 LOL... I had this same problem last night ;-) I downloaded and compiled
 a program called gps3d which contains a globe of the world. The
 image-map is a .pnm file, and it stated there that it had to be saved in
 binary form.. well, gimp gives it as either ascii or raw, neither of
 which work with the program. It can open it with no problems, but after
 saving (even the origional file), the programs cannot open the map.
 
 I would sugest using another more common form (jpg, tif, png ...
 whatever), which all OS's can open. Unfortunately I don't have this
 choice with this program, so I'll just have to make-do with the
 origional map.
 
 Greetings
 Ralph

 Yes, that seems the practicle solution, use gimp to convert the .pnm
 to .jpeg or something.

 But I still don't really understand the practical difference between RAW
 and ACII as asked by gimp in this context. As it happens I did
 ordiinally accept RAW and the .pnm files it creates gimp has had no
 problem converting to .jpeg so I'm not worried but had I chosen ACII
 what would of been the outcome I wonder ?

 John
If you still have the original .pnm file, you could save one of them under 
ACII, adjusting the name to avoid overwriting.  At least that would test the 
outcome without endangering your precious files.

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Re: [newbie] Fickle camera connection fstab

2002-12-28 Thread Jason
I have but you have gotten farther than me even. I have an external USB 
flash card reader that Mandrake doesn't even notice I have plugged in 
despite it supposedly being supported on 2.4+ kernels. Some users on 
list expert have helped with my fstab entries and now I can see the 
device in Kwikdisk (and usbview) but when I try and mount it I get the 
same error as you except mine says /dev/sda1 does not exist. I have done 
some serious reading up on hotplug and tried a myriad of solutions 
including transitmount with no success. I am getting very frustrated 
because I feel so close but nonetheless I am certain I will get it going 
eventually.

Regards,

Jason Greenwood

Rob Lindsay wrote:

I have a Nikon 995 which downloads through the usb interface. 

I am having a lot of trouble with mounting working intermittently.

There are times when I get a dialogue saying that /dev/sda1 cannot be found.

My only way around this is to go into fstab as root through nano or somesuch 
editor and make a minor spacing change, save and then the ability to mount 
the camera returns.

Has anyone else had similar problems? Is there a solution?

Rob 


 



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Re: [newbie] spadmin

2002-12-28 Thread Paul
In reply to Anne's mail, d.d. Sat, 28 Dec 2002 12:18:49 +:

Hi Anne,

I want to explore Star Office 6, but am finding it frustrating that some
basic things are not yet set up.  I know that I want to run spadmin as root
to sort out fonts and printers, but can't find how to do that.  I thought I
had located the correct program (under /usr/lib/staroffice/program) but
when I tried that I got the setup program, as though for a new install.

What am I doing wrong?

You may want to check with ls -a where spadmin in /usr/lib/staroffice is
pointing to. (I run OpenOffice, I hope things are equal enough.)

[root@tbird OpenOffice.org1.0]# ls -l spadmin 
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   44 May  2  2002 spadmin -
/usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.0/program/soffice*

As you see, here it is a link to the soffice program. When I run it, as root
or user, it gives me the printer/font control program.
If you can't find it, perhaps you could drop a ls -l of
/usr/lib/staroffice/program here?

Good luck,
Paul

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Re: [newbie] spadmin

2002-12-28 Thread robin
Anne Wilson wrote:

I want to explore Star Office 6, but am finding it frustrating that some basic 
things are not yet set up.  I know that I want to run spadmin as root to sort 
out fonts and printers, but can't find how to do that.  I thought I had 
located the correct program (under /usr/lib/staroffice/program) but when I 
tried that I got the setup program, as though for a new install.

What am I doing wrong?



If Star Office still works the same way as OpenOffice, then you need 
something like /usr/local/bin/spadmin (type which spadmin to find the 
correct location for your system).

spadmin is one of the more annoying features of SO/OO.  It would be much 
more convenient for it to use existing print and font utilities, but 
then one of the downsides of writing cross-platform applications is that 
you have to make them as self-contained as possible, hence all the 
redundancy and concommitant massive download size.  In contrast, you 
have something like Lyx, which is a tiny program because it's largely a 
front-end to a load of stuff that is standard on Unix/Linux (LaTeX, 
ghostscript etc.), but trying to install it on Windows is a royal pain.

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[newbie] Internet family filter

2002-12-28 Thread Todd Slater
Is there anything like netnanny or other parental control tools for Linux?
What would be the best way to filter inappropriate content?

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Re: [newbie] Internet family filter

2002-12-28 Thread Simon Prosser
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On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 5:42 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
 Is there anything like netnanny or other parental control tools for Linux?
 What would be the best way to filter inappropriate content?

 Todd
There is indeed..
The best is DansGuardian (dansguardian.org) 
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[newbie] How can I filter mail that is not addressed to me?

2002-12-28 Thread Todd Slater
Sounds silly, but I use dummy accounts for usenet and online merchants, so
I know who spams me and violates their privacy policy. Lately
I'm getting spam from the Democratic Republic of Congo. The mail is not
addressed to my dummy account; the mail has as the same address for the
from and to fields (the sender), but looking at the headers it says:

Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from
email1.xeno-technology.com(unknown [216.34.4.251])
by clevername.homeip.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 033125E52A
for[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 12:25:36 -0500 (EST)

I suppose the ip address and domain of the sender will change and will
therefore be useless as a filter rule. In Sylpheed-claws (0.8.5) I can't
find away to filter on Delivered-to or For field.

Any ideas?

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Re: [newbie] spadmin

2002-12-28 Thread Jan Wilson
* Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [021228 10:50]:
 [root@anne-linux staroffice]# ls -l spadmin
 lrwxr-xr-x1 root root   43 Nov 17 09:03 spadmin - 
 ../../../usr/lib/staroffice/program/soffice*
 [root@anne-linux staroffice]# pwd
 /usr/lib/staroffice
 [root@anne-linux staroffice]# cd program
 [root@anne-linux program]# soffice
 [root@anne-linux program]#
 
 This offered to set up my addressbook.  Since I have KMail and GnomeCard.vcf 
 files, I didn't find how to access these, so I cancelled that and it simply 
 left me with a blank document open.
 
 I guess I got it wrong

Anne,

soffice is one of those tricky programs that does different things
depending on how it was called, so if you call it from a symlink named
soffice, it will either open OOo, or set it up if you don't have a
.sversionrc file in your home directory.

In the example above, you set up a link named spadmin that linked to
soffice, but then you ran soffice, instead of spadmin.  That accounts
for getting the OOo setup instead of spadmin.  Also, I think root
needs to run spadmin.

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[newbie] Generic USB Storage Device

2002-12-28 Thread John Richard Smith
I have this  new usb storage device , a reader which
KDE CC - info - usb devices detects as,

Generic USB Storage Device

Manufacturer: Generic
Serial #: 0AEC30501A007

class  0  (interface)
subclass   0
protocol   0
usb version 1.16

vendor  IDOxaec  (Neodio)
Product ID0x5010(ND5010 Card Reader)
Revision  1.0


speed 12 Mbits/s
channels  0
Max. Packet Size  0



What do I do next to get mandrake to read the media.
I guess I have to create a device somewhere like /mnt/usbstorage
and point it in some way to the way the system recognises it.

John

Later ,

One practical difference is that the bus has changed dramatically,

cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord 1.11a32 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg
Schilling
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Using libscg version 'schily-0.6'
scsibus0:
 0,0,0 0) 'Generic ' 'USB Storage-SMC ' '0090' Removable Disk
 0,1,0 1) *
 0,2,0 2) *
 0,3,0 3) *
 0,4,0 4) *
 0,5,0 5) *
 0,6,0 6) *
 0,7,0 7) *
scsibus1:
 1,0,0   100) *
 1,1,0   101) *
 1,2,0   102) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-ROM DVD-116 ' '1.22' Removable CD-ROM
 1,3,0   103) 'MITSUMI ' 'CR-48X9TE   ' '1.0C' Removable CD-ROM
 1,4,0   104) *
 1,5,0   105) *
 1,6,0   106) *
 1,7,0   107) *

and for some reason xcdroast/cdrecord is not happy with working
with the new reader and writer, scsibus1 delineation.I'm a bit
puzzled by this.I don't see why it shouldn't work with it, after
all xcdrecord recognises it. What should I do about it.

John


EVEN MORE LATER

Whatever the problem, it lies somewhere with xcdroast rather than 
cdrecord , because I can write on the command line in cdrecord, where
I give it the correct bus address as part of the command.I think
xcdroast will need upgrading.A pitty really, and a bit odd as xcdroast
definately detects the correct bus address, it just refuses to use
it.

John

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Re: [newbie] spadmin

2002-12-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 5:50 pm, Jan Wilson wrote:
 * Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [021228 10:50]:
  [root@anne-linux staroffice]# ls -l spadmin
  lrwxr-xr-x1 root root   43 Nov 17 09:03 spadmin -
  ../../../usr/lib/staroffice/program/soffice*
  [root@anne-linux staroffice]# pwd
  /usr/lib/staroffice
  [root@anne-linux staroffice]# cd program
  [root@anne-linux program]# soffice
  [root@anne-linux program]#
 
  This offered to set up my addressbook.  Since I have KMail and
  GnomeCard.vcf files, I didn't find how to access these, so I cancelled
  that and it simply left me with a blank document open.
 
  I guess I got it wrong

 Anne,

 soffice is one of those tricky programs that does different things
 depending on how it was called, so if you call it from a symlink named
 soffice, it will either open OOo, or set it up if you don't have a
 .sversionrc file in your home directory.

 In the example above, you set up a link named spadmin that linked to
 soffice, but then you ran soffice, instead of spadmin.  That accounts
 for getting the OOo setup instead of spadmin.  Also, I think root
 needs to run spadmin.

Thanks, Jan.  I got there eventually.  BTW - I haven't forgotten your help re 
vector files, I've just been busy with family thingies.  I'll let you know 
how I go on (or come screaming for help :) ) later.

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[newbie] Generic USB Storage Device

2002-12-28 Thread John Richard Smith
I have this  new usb storage device , a reader which
KDE CC - info - usb devices detects as,

(snip)


EVEN MORE LATER

Whatever the problem, it lies somewhere with xcdroast rather than
cdrecord , because I can write on the command line in cdrecord, where
I give it the correct bus address as part of the command.I think
xcdroast will need upgrading.A pitty really, and a bit odd as xcdroast
definately detects the correct bus address, it just refuses to use
it.


STILL MORE LATER

OH DEAR, I must be really under the weather,
Of course , I only had to go to cd-setting in xcdroast and manually
change the settings for writer and readers, Duuu,




but this still leaves the problem of how to get my smart card reader
working . I changed the ports around and now find that the reader is
in a new bus address,

scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) *
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-ROM DVD-116 ' '1.22' Removable CD-ROM
0,3,0 3) 'MITSUMI ' 'CR-48X9TE   ' '1.0C' Removable CD-ROM

scsibus1:
1,0,0   100) 'Generic ' 'USB Storage-SMC ' '0090' Removable Disk

What do I do next.



John

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Re: [newbie] Generic USB Storage Device

2002-12-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 7:42 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 I have this  new usb storage device , a reader which
 KDE CC - info - usb devices detects as,

 (snip)


 EVEN MORE LATER

 Whatever the problem, it lies somewhere with xcdroast rather than
 cdrecord , because I can write on the command line in cdrecord, where
 I give it the correct bus address as part of the command.I think
 xcdroast will need upgrading.A pitty really, and a bit odd as xcdroast
 definately detects the correct bus address, it just refuses to use
 it.


 STILL MORE LATER

 OH DEAR, I must be really under the weather,
 Of course , I only had to go to cd-setting in xcdroast and manually
 change the settings for writer and readers, Duuu,




 but this still leaves the problem of how to get my smart card reader
 working . I changed the ports around and now find that the reader is
 in a new bus address,

 scsibus0:
 0,0,0 0) *
 0,1,0 1) *
 0,2,0 2) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-ROM DVD-116 ' '1.22' Removable CD-ROM
 0,3,0 3) 'MITSUMI ' 'CR-48X9TE   ' '1.0C' Removable CD-ROM

 scsibus1:
 1,0,0   100) 'Generic ' 'USB Storage-SMC ' '0090' Removable Disk

John - I;m following this, though I expect to learn rather than teach.  What 
are you running to get this report?  I know how to get the relevant info, but 
not in such a convenient format.

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Using a Cyrix cpu with MMX

2002-12-28 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Saturday December 28 2002 10:37 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

 So I guess my choices are

 1)  find an older, simpler distro for this box
 2)  install 9.0 as dual boot on another box

 Right?

 Anne

  3) different kernel

   I ougth'a probly stay out'a this since I can't imagine why anybody 
would buy or keep a non-standard (x86) processor in the first place. 
Sell it to a confirmed Windoze 9.x user. First caveat is I have 
little experience with this cr@p.  I guess I'm only interested since 
I believe some of y'all are buyin new VIA-C3 cpu systems. Which are 
Cyrix, taken over by VIA since they were goin broke. That's what the 
'C' stands for in VIA-Cx, aka Eden.

   Cyrix processors are only 'sorta kind'a' i586 cpu's. They purport 
to be i586, but are only capable of many i486 functions, besides 
grossly overstating their Mhz capability.  They do achieve low 
performance and heat/wattage requirements tho. BD, Rob Peter to pay 
Paul. A better solution would be to underclock a Duron or Athlon.

   Gettin back to 3).  Latest kernels propose to recognize these 
deficient cpu's and make the neccessary compensations. I doubt your 
'1)' will work better, but might be worth a try. Older isn't a good 
bet tho, try RH 8.0, an 1386 distro. IIRC, Mandrake kernels, 2.4.20 
(latest cooker) might be your best bet for these junk cpu's. I 
believe they recognize them for what they are ... from what I've 
read.
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Re: [newbie] Using a Cyrix cpu with MMX

2002-12-28 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 13:55:44 -0600
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I ougth'a probly stay out'a this since I can't imagine why anybody 
 would buy or keep a non-standard (x86) processor in the first place. 


Come on Tom.
Tell them what you really think (-:


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Re: [newbie] Mandrake and Automated Backup

2002-12-28 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2002-12-27 at 09:20, Rob Lindsay wrote:
 My home system is a PIII 733 with two 20GB Internal IDE hard drives. The 
 office system is a G4 400 with internal and external 20GB drives. Also have a 
 PI 200MMX networked with the PIII [Don't like getting rid of a perfectly good 
 machine].
 
 I use M$ Backup for the W2K system and Retrospect for the Mac. Retrospect is 
 infinitely more user-friendly than M$ Backup.
 
 How do you suggest I organise automatic backup on linux?
 
 Note: I am getting very close to scrapping the M$ side of things on the PIII 
 - however will have to rely on Win4Lin/Win98SE as a shock absorber for a 
 while.
 
 The key barrier to my moving away from an M$ primary system is internet 
 telephony. I am still to find a Net2Phone replacement.
 
 Webfreefone, Gnomemeeting and LinPhone don't seem to quite fit the bill.
 
 Have I missed something obvious?
 
 Rob
 
 PS I think I saw a comment about drag and drop between applications under the 
 latest version of KDE. Would migrating to MD 9.x help me?
 

There are heaps of different phone applications out there for linux -
it's just a matter of finding the one that meets yer needs so you're
going to have to scrounge around the linux sites...Sourceforge and
Freshmeat are great places to start off.

If you've already got a backup program you like, but it works on the
Mac, why not use that to back up your M$ and your linux stuff as well?
In not knowing what you're using for communication on your network, I
use DAVE 3.1 on the Mac so that the  Mac can utilize NetBIOS - so the
linux box, windows box and mac box all share files with no big deals -
not by ftp or timbuktuREAL file sharing via chooser and the likes...

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Re: [newbie] Possible scalper worm

2002-12-28 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2002-12-28 at 13:45, Dennis Myers wrote:
 Below is output from chkrootkit on my workstation.  Notice the third line. I 
 have looked for the files that this infection is supposed to put in /tmp and 
 found nothing. The next variant slapper as you see is not detected.  I have 
 updated  openssl and do not run Apache on this machine, so the point of this 
 is what to check further and why would chkrootkit see this at all.  Anyone 
 have a similar readout? Any suggestions are appreciated. TIA
 snipped the readout above this cause all was nothing found
 
 Checking `rexedcs'... not found
 Checking `sniffer'... Checking `wted'... nothing deleted
 Checking `scalper'... Warning: Possible Scalper Worm installed
 Checking `slapper'... not infected
 Checking `z2'...
 nothing deleted

When you're doing your manual searching - are you doing this from a
terminal window and just using ls - or are you using the ls -CFa
switches...?

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Re: [newbie] dave vs pcmaclan

2002-12-28 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2002-12-28 at 14:26, Richard Babcock wrote:
 Greetings,
 I saw a post previously about Dave for connecting Macs and PC's. As I recall
 the poster was a Mac person. That being the case I would recommend PCMacLan
 rather than Dave. I connected my Dad's iMac to his Pentium II last year
 using Dave and found that it refused to relinquish control of file sharing
 permissions. While this may be acceptable for a PC network that has the
 occasional (tolerated) Macintosh it was just terrible when we wanted to
 share other folders or files between the iMac and his Performa.
 Installing PCMacLan made the Pentium II the 'adulterated' machine and left
 his iMac alone which was much more acceptable to him.
 I also seem to recall that you are going to take a laptop to a number of
 locations so installing PCMacLan in all of the locations may not be
 possible.
 FWIW
 Rich
 -
 Richard L. Babcock, Owner
 Tower Training
 At Tower Training, We Bring the Classroom to You!
 www.towertraining.net

That's really wierd - cuz in the past five years of using DAVE in rather
large environments, I've never had issues with file locking
problems...and don't here at home, neither...

I'm not familiar with PCMacLan - but am going to check it out once the
holiday rush is over with...

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Re: [newbie] linux office suite comparison?

2002-12-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 26 Dec 2002 6:33 pm, Joeb wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 11:52:13 +

 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 Dec 2002 2:57 am, Andrei Raevsky wrote:
   What does StarOffice6 offer which OpenOffice 1.0.1 cannot do?
 
  Not a lot.  There are a few extra modules, which I haven't explored yet,
  but look as though they are things like a quick access to label
  templates, etc. I understood that Adibas database was part of SO6, but it
  hasn't loaded as part of the install, so I'll have to explore the disks
  to see if it's there.
 
  Anne

 Does anyone know if StarOffice6 will import/export Wordperfect 6.0 and
 later documents (OOo doesn't)?  I'm trying to move a non-profit from their
 Windows environment, and they are willing, but they are heavily invested in
 Wordperfect.

I missed this when it came in.  I can't see any evidence that it would, but 
the simple way is to try it.  If you can send me (address above) a small 
Wordperfect file I will try it out for you.

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Generic USB Storage Device

2002-12-28 Thread John Richard Smith
Anne Wilson wrote:


On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 7:42 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 


scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) *
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-ROM DVD-116 ' '1.22' Removable CD-ROM
0,3,0 3) 'MITSUMI ' 'CR-48X9TE   ' '1.0C' Removable CD-ROM

scsibus1:
1,0,0   100) 'Generic ' 'USB Storage-SMC ' '0090' Removable Disk
   


John - I;m following this, though I expect to learn rather than teach.  What 
are you running to get this report?  I know how to get the relevant info, but 
not in such a convenient format.

Anne

 

KDE-infomation - USB devices - then click on the device detected, and 
the info presents itself.

The other is just  cdrecord -scanbus in a terminal

I thought at first that the reader has to have something by way of media
in it for detection to be successfull but that is not the case. Also, 
you can
reposition the place the reader comes on the bus address by moving the
USB socket you plug into, around , there is some sort of pecking order,
but then I have 6 usb ports , maybe for others that is not the case.
Also I am guessing here but I think it is a sure fire bet the other read
meadia this multi-readers device is , will get strung along the
same

1,0,0 bus address 

in the pecking order. This readers is said to be
capable of 7 media type read capacity. . Certainly it 
has a number of different shaped ports to shove media in.


John



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Re: [newbie] strange hardware question .. how to tell the Wattage(Watts?) of a P/S

2002-12-28 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 09:50, FemmeFatale wrote:
 Subject says it all... any ideas besides reading a label?  Thx.  Oh  Is 
 there any diff between AT  ATX P/S's?
 Merci
 -
 FemmeFatale
 

One of the more simple ways of finding the wattage of a power supply is
to do the following:

1.) Stand on a linoleum floor that is excessively wet - if the lino is
not wet, pour approximately 10 litres of water on the floor to make it
the necessary wetness.

2.) Plant your bare feet solidly on the wet lino.

3.) Plug in the power supply, and turn it on - you'll know it's on when
the little fan starts going round and round

4.) Using a handy dandy butter knife, jab forcefully into the little
vents along the side of the power supply.

5.) Once you make contact with a delicate open contact point, you'll be
able to gauge the amount of watts by the distance you are thrown. As per
the following:
60 watts - 2 meters
100 watts - 5 meters
150 watts - 10 meters
200 watts - 15 meters

...and so on...


Actually, the easiest way is probably to get the part ID and surf the
net for it...saves butter knives...

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[newbie] Mounting a CF card in a PCMCIA card adapter

2002-12-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have an adapter PCMCIA card that holds a compact flash card.  Before I 
installed 9.0 on my laptop I was running 8.2 and had no problem mounting the 
card.  I simply slid it in and the issued:

mount -t vfat /dev/hde1 /mnt/card

Now that isn't working.  I put the card in and issue the same command but 
nothing happens.  I've noticed a process called drakupdate_fstab running and 
using a lot of cpu time.  I'm assuming that this is some how related?  It 
looks like this in a ps:

000 S root  9458  9450  0  78   0-  2270 pipe_w 15:18 ?
00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/drakupdate_fstab --auto --add 
/dev/ide/host2/bus0/target

Can anyone tell me what's going on and what I need to do?  If it helps this is 
a dell i8k laptop.



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Re: [newbie] Using a Cyrix cpu with MMX

2002-12-28 Thread FemmeFatale
At 12:43 PM 12/28/2002 +, you wrote:

On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 12:11 pm, Simon Prosser wrote:
 On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 11:55 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Friday 27 Dec 2002 2:33 pm, Poogle wrote:
   On Friday 27 Dec 2002 H:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 27 Dec 2002 1:32 pm, Poogle wrote:
 On Friday 27 Dec 2002 H:40 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  How likely is it that I could get 9.0 or 8.2 to install with this
  cpu? Has anyone got a working system with this architecture?
 
  Anne

 Anne,
 I installed it on a Cyrix box without problems (something like a
 366 IIRC but I don't have access to it to check at the moment)
 
  Well, I tried it this morning.  It's a 233 with MMX, so it's at the
  bottom end of supportable hardware, and it failed utterly.  I got as far
  as F1 for options, F2 to install, then a blank screen, and absolutely
  nothing.  I'm not sure it's worth spending too much time, and certainly
  not money, on this machine.  If anyone knows a likely cause, I'll have
  one more try, but I'm not too hopeful.
 
  Anne

 I run Debian 3 on a P166MMX I use it as my firewall/mailserver and when its
 not dialing for me it chews seti@home (takes 60 hours per chunk tho! :D)
 Did your install fail because Mandrake is compiled for i586 and your box is
 i486?

Now that sounds likely.  Is 8.2 also compiled for i586?  I don't remember.

Anne



Luv i have a copy of MDK 7.x for 486 processors around here burnt onto a 
cd.  Should you wish you can d/l it from me OR I think I can find the FTP I 
got it from?

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Re: [newbie] Using a Cyrix cpu with MMX

2002-12-28 Thread FemmeFatale
At 04:37 PM 12/28/2002 +, you wrote:



So I guess my choices are

1)  find an older, simpler distro for this box
2)  install 9.0 as dual boot on another box

Right?

Anne



I also have peanut linux should you wish it :P

just an fyi

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Re: [newbie] Using a Cyrix cpu with MMX

2002-12-28 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 10:24, FemmeFatale wrote:

 
 I also have peanut linux should you wish it :P
 

Wasn't Linus one of the Peanuts?

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Re: [newbie] strange hardware question .. how to tell the Wattage (Watts?) of a P/S

2002-12-28 Thread FemmeFatale
At 05:52 PM 12/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 15:50:00 -0700, you wrote:

Subject says it all... any ideas besides reading a label?  Thx.  Oh  Is
there any diff between AT  ATX P/S's?
Merci

Dumb question, I'm sure, Femme, but did you look at the PS itself?
Usually there's a sticker on it of some kind.



not dumb at all... heh maybe I wasn't clear.

Good friend (PC Guru works in IT) says PS units are often mislabelled as to 
their power.  I tend to believe that to be possible...well I checked for a 
sticker... nada.  So ... that leaves some way of determining it by 
myself.  That clearer? :)
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Re: [newbie] strange hardware question .. how to tell the Wattage (Watts?) of a P/S

2002-12-28 Thread FemmeFatale
At 06:06 PM 12/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 15:50:00 -0700
FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Subject says it all... any ideas besides reading a label?

Besides the label (watt listing or model )or your comp manual, if it is
a pre-built system, you could use a voltage meter to check the output.


 Oh  Is
 there any diff between AT  ATX P/S's?

The form factor is different.
They are made to fix different case types, through there are some that
are supposedly usable in either.


Charles


hm ... volt meter... i think we have one.. and b/f is very good @ 
electronics.  I asked about the AT/X thing cause this mobo is bizarre.  It 
accepts both factors.  And I have a 250 watt P/S  case available...and if 
the original p/s that came with the comp is underpowered I'll just use the 
ATX 250 watter.

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Re: [newbie] strange hardware question .. how to tell the Wattage (Watts?) of a P/S

2002-12-28 Thread David Williams
On Saturday 28 December 2002 05:50 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
 Subject says it all... any ideas besides reading a label?  Thx.  Oh  Is
 there any diff between AT  ATX P/S's?
 Merci



 -
 FemmeFatale

 Good Decisions You boss Made:
 We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
 character from Peanuts.

 - Source: Dilbert

Generally the model number will have the wattage embedded in it. 
For example: Model ATX-350-12V
The 350 is the wattage. 

Usually the power is equal to the current times the voltage.
You have to watch what you are using  on this. As the power supply robs Peter 
to pay Paul.
My supply (which is the model above) has 12V at 15Amps max and 5V at 35 Amps 
max .. (12*15)+(5*35) = 355 watts. (Generally, this is what you can use to 
roughly determine what the wattage of the supply).
It also shows 3.3v at 20A and -5V at .5AMPS and and -12V at .5AMPS
(3.3*20)+(5*.5)+(12*.5)= 72.25
This would give a total wattage as 427Watts but remember the rob Peter to pay 
Paul.  The supply cannot supply all of the voltages at the max current as it 
will blow a fuse.
Now, have I thoroughly confused the issue.
David


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Re: [newbie] strange hardware question .. how to tell the Wattage (Watts?) of a P/S

2002-12-28 Thread Rog
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 16:36:48 -0700, you wrote:

At 05:52 PM 12/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 15:50:00 -0700, you wrote:

 Subject says it all... any ideas besides reading a label?  Thx.  Oh  Is
 there any diff between AT  ATX P/S's?
 Merci

Dumb question, I'm sure, Femme, but did you look at the PS itself?
Usually there's a sticker on it of some kind.


not dumb at all... heh maybe I wasn't clear.

Good friend (PC Guru works in IT) says PS units are often mislabelled as to 
their power.  I tend to believe that to be possible...well I checked for a 
sticker... nada.  So ... that leaves some way of determining it by 
myself.  That clearer? :)


Clear. ;-)



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peace,

Rog

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[newbie] switching my mouse in 8.2

2002-12-28 Thread joe


I have never had any luck with switching to a different mouse when I try
to (in 7.2 or 8.2). I start up, kudzu detects my old mouse is gone,and
removes it. I run mouseconfig and choose something close to the
description of my new mouse (ps2 generic 3 button trackball through an
adapter to serial, I chose 3 buttun generic serial) I restart and get
nothing. Can someone suggest something simpler than a re-install?



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[newbie] Fortune Murphy/Fortune Top 100

2002-12-28 Thread mike
I was wondering how you use these programs.I found the man page for Fortune 
but nothing for these other thingies.

Mike

Mandrake 8.2
Kernel-2.4.18-8.1mdk
Linux user #298896
Sat Dec 28 19:08:08 EST 2002
7:08pm up 1 day, 4:38, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.02
Homepage: http://micronuke.tripod.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

CPU: Celeron600@902mhz
Motherboard: EPoX EP-3VCA2
Video Card: Gainward GeForce3
Memory: SDRAM 384mb

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Re: [newbie] switching my mouse in 8.2

2002-12-28 Thread mike
On Saturday 28 December 2002 12:40 pm, you wrote:
 I have never had any luck with switching to a different mouse when I try
 to (in 7.2 or 8.2). I start up, kudzu detects my old mouse is gone,and
 removes it. I run mouseconfig and choose something close to the
 description of my new mouse (ps2 generic 3 button trackball through an
 adapter to serial, I chose 3 buttun generic serial) I restart and get
 nothing. Can someone suggest something simpler than a re-install?

I have had trouble with my PS2 mouse.After an install if i disable autologin 
to KDE sometimes the mouse will stop working and for the life of me I cant 
get it to work again.I've tried Drakxconf,Kudzu,Mousedrake.

Mike

Mandrake 8.2
Kernel-2.4.18-8.1mdk
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Homepage: http://micronuke.tripod.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

CPU: Celeron600@902mhz
Motherboard: EPoX EP-3VCA2
Video Card: Gainward GeForce3
Memory: SDRAM 384mb

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Re: [newbie] strange hardware question .. how to tell the Wattage (Watts?) of a P/S

2002-12-28 Thread FemmeFatale
At 06:44 PM 12/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:

On Saturday 28 December 2002 05:50 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
 Subject says it all... any ideas besides reading a label?  Thx.  Oh  Is
 there any diff between AT  ATX P/S's?
 Merci



 -
 FemmeFatale

 Good Decisions You boss Made:
 We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
 character from Peanuts.

 - Source: Dilbert

Generally the model number will have the wattage embedded in it.
For example: Model ATX-350-12V
The 350 is the wattage.



Yay!  Thx that worked :)  Heh now to figure out if I should bother with the 
250Watt ATX Or leave it at AT 220 W?  any suggestions??  its a pII 200 I 
believe... or 233... Not sure offhand.  And will serve files (Mp3's from 
ftp/apache, possibly serve as some sort of firewall... depending... i have 
a router... and um.. not much else).  So which size of PS do I need offhand 
do you think?
-
FemmeFatale

Good Decisions You boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.

- Source: Dilbert



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Re: [newbie] switching my mouse in 8.2

2002-12-28 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 04:40, joe wrote:
 I have never had any luck with switching to a different mouse when I try
 to (in 7.2 or 8.2). I start up, kudzu detects my old mouse is gone,and
 removes it. I run mouseconfig and choose something close to the
 description of my new mouse (ps2 generic 3 button trackball through an
 adapter to serial, I chose 3 buttun generic serial) I restart and get
 nothing. Can someone suggest something simpler than a re-install?
 

You state that there's an adapter to it - can you please explain? Cuz
that might have something to do with the issue...

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and display work.  This product is called Craft Mount.  3M suggests
that to obtain the best results, one should make the bond while the
adhesive is wet, aggressively tacky.  I did not know what aggressively
tacky meant until I read today's fortune.

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Re: [newbie] Fortune Murphy/Fortune Top 100

2002-12-28 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 11:08, mike wrote:
 I was wondering how you use these programs.I found the man page for Fortune 
 but nothing for these other thingies.
 
 Mike

FORTUNE lies in /usr/games - hence, not in the path.

You can create a symlink to the binary, though - by doing:

ln -s /usr/games/fortune /usr/bin/fortune

...the fortune datafiles lie in /usr/share/games/fortune - so if
download heaps of dat files for fortune, you can have thousands and
thousands of non-repeating fortunes - jeepers!

You can do amazing things with those fortunes - such as how a custom
signature is created...the following is an example of the script that I
use to generate a new signature every five minutes (running the script
through KCron):
--
date  /tmp/date.txt
fortune  /tmp/fortune.txt
uptime  /tmp/uptime.txt


sed r /tmp/date.txt /tmp/uptime.txt  /tmp/mdate.txt

sed r /tmp/mdate.txt /root/signature.txt  /tmp/signature_temp.txt

sed r /tmp/signature_temp.txt /tmp/fortune.txt 
/root/final_signature.txt

fortune  /etc/motd
--

The last bit sends an motd to each user that logs in...not really
necessary, but cute...

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--
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3M, under the Scotch brand name, manufactures a fine adhesive for art
and display work.  This product is called Craft Mount.  3M suggests
that to obtain the best results, one should make the bond while the
adhesive is wet, aggressively tacky.  I did not know what aggressively
tacky meant until I read today's fortune.

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Re: [newbie] strange hardware question .. how to tell the Wattage (Watts?) of a P/S

2002-12-28 Thread David Williams
On Saturday 28 December 2002 07:15 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
 At 06:44 PM 12/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
 On Saturday 28 December 2002 05:50 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
   Subject says it all... any ideas besides reading a label?  Thx.  Oh 
   Is there any diff between AT  ATX P/S's?
   Merci
  
  
  
   -
   FemmeFatale
  
   Good Decisions You boss Made:
   We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
   character from Peanuts.
  
   - Source: Dilbert
 
 Generally the model number will have the wattage embedded in it.
 For example: Model ATX-350-12V
 The 350 is the wattage.

 Yay!  Thx that worked :)  Heh now to figure out if I should bother with the
 250Watt ATX Or leave it at AT 220 W?  any suggestions??  its a pII 200 I
 believe... or 233... Not sure offhand.  And will serve files (Mp3's from
 ftp/apache, possibly serve as some sort of firewall... depending... i have
 a router... and um.. not much else).  So which size of PS do I need offhand
 do you think?
 -
 FemmeFatale

 Good Decisions You boss Made:
 We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
 character from Peanuts.

 - Source: Dilbert

Depends on what you are doing with it. Outside of the CPU, the most current 
draw will be the disk drives and the new ones draw very little power. Of 
course a high powered graphics accelerator will draw a lot of power, but I 
assume that doesn't apply here. Lots of memory will be negligible also.
I used to have a 233MHZ pentium, so-so graphics card,  2 five and 1/4 inch 
hard drives, 1-floppy and a CDROM on a 220Watt supply.

David

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Re: [newbie] enabling SSH and HTTPD on LAN-only

2002-12-28 Thread Derek Jennings
On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 4:10 pm, Kristjan wrote:
 Hi

 One short question
 I want to have httpd enabled over lan but disabled to internet, so that I
 can serve webpages to my LAN only.

 Also I want to have remote accsess to my mandrake box over ssh, from LAN,
 but nowhere else.

 Probably I need to make some rules to shorewall, but need advise here. Or
 are there any other places I need to look over ?

 thanks
 Kristjan

Easy enough just edit /etc/shorewall/rules  It is full of examples. Right at 
the bottom are the actual rules. You will notice there is a line for each 
combination of traffic; Network to firewall, lan (or masq) to firewall, lan 
to net and so on. Just put the protocol names or port numbers in the 
appropriate line (http is port 80, ssh is port 22)
Then restart shorewall with 'service shorewall restart'


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Re: [newbie] Fickle camera connection fstab

2002-12-28 Thread erylon hines
On Saturday 28 December 2002 05:46 am, you wrote:
 I have but you have gotten farther than me even. I have an external USB
 flash card reader that Mandrake doesn't even notice I have plugged in
 despite it supposedly being supported on 2.4+ kernels. Some users on
 list expert have helped with my fstab entries and now I can see the
 device in Kwikdisk (and usbview) but when I try and mount it I get the
 same error as you except mine says /dev/sda1 does not exist. 

Every one of my flashcard readers (I have 3), and I have mounted them on 
quite a few different machines, are /dev/sdb1.  That, in spite of the fact I 
have no /dev/sda1 at all, on any of my machines.  In fact, the only /dev/sdaX 
I have on any machine is /dev/sda4, on those with zip drives.

Trying to mount as /dev/sda1 has always failed me.

Entries are either:

/dev/sdb1 /mnt/cardreader vfat auto,user,fat=12 0 0

(that's my line for 8.0 installations)

or:

/mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount
 dev=/dev/sdb1,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0

(that line was created automatically by the 8.2 installer--however, the dev= 
was /dev/sdb, and I have to change that to /dev/sdb1  several installs did 
this to me)

or:

/mnt/cardreader /mnt/cardreader supermount   
dev=/dev/sdb1,fs=vfat,exec,--,user,umask=0,fat=12,sync,dev,suid 0 0

(this line is created manually by me when no cardreader is present during the 
installation--note that scsi emulation in the kernel is mandatory).

The cardreaders are definitely hot-pluggable, although occasionally 
supermount has a problem that is fixed by re-booting, ala-Windows.  I usually 
make a cardreader group and add my users to it (I don't think this was 
necessary with 8.0, but I had problems unless I created cardreader with 8.2). 
 I don't use 9.0--sorry.

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Re: [newbie] Installing a Conceptronic 56K Modem on Linux Mandrake 9.0

2002-12-28 Thread Derek Jennings
On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 11:17 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 12:01 am, Aurélio Diniz wrote:
  Thanks Jason.
  I was going to post that same question but you answered it before i ask
  :) My modem is working fine now.
 
  Does anyone knows a good fax program with a nice interface thats runs on
  KDE? I installed Hylafax but it is only available at the command line. I
  suppose that i need a frontend for it.

 I find that the simplest way is to Print to Fax from KWrite.  The only
 problem with it is that you need to locate the directory where it writes
 the temp files (I can't remember where, so you may have to try one, get a
 failed send, then read the log, which you can do from an icon on the send
 screen, to locate it) and change permissions so that you can write to it. 
 Otherwise, couldn't be simpler.

 Anne

Umm. actually you don't need to mess about with temporary files.

With 9.0 you will probably find that efax got installed by default in your 
system, and you can print directly to fax simply by selecting 'send to fax' 
in the list of printers Cups presents to you.
Just select 
KmenuApplicationsCommunicationsSend_a_faxSettings   first to set up your 
fax details and select the modem port

derek

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Re: [newbie] strange hardware question .. how to tell the Wattage (Watts?) of a P/S

2002-12-28 Thread FemmeFatale
At 07:23 PM 12/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:

On Saturday 28 December 2002 07:15 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:

Depends on what you are doing with it. Outside of the CPU, the most current
draw will be the disk drives and the new ones draw very little power. Of
course a high powered graphics accelerator will draw a lot of power, but I
assume that doesn't apply here. Lots of memory will be negligible also.
I used to have a 233MHZ pentium, so-so graphics card,  2 five and 1/4 inch
hard drives, 1-floppy and a CDROM on a 220Watt supply.

David


k well that answers that question.  Hm.. now all I need to figure out is if 
i'm too lazy to switch it to a diff box...or not... :D

Thx luv.  You've been a big help :)
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Good Decisions You boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.

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[newbie] Which version please

2002-12-28 Thread Derek Byram
Hi all,

Can someone please suggest which version of Mandrake should give me the best 
performance running the following hardware where the machine WILL have a GUI 
(I like them :) but for the most part will then mostly be running an ssh 
server sans GUI, through my router?

Intel P200 on an ASUS mobo, 64 Mb RAM, 2gb HDD, 2mb ATI graphics, some 10/100 
ethernet card.

All the hardware seems to be standard enough to work with all versions that I 
have when used in other combinations.  I can pick between Mandrake 8, 8.1 
(download versions) and a purchased 8.2 (7 disk version).

I have to mention I have a soft spot for Version 8 as it was the first of any 
Linux distro that worked out of the box for me, (sound and internet) and has 
produced the best results on another machine (450 AMD 256 RAM), appearing to 
be more stable than the others but I value the opinions expressed here.

I anticipate it will involve something to do with which version of the kernel 
they are blessed with but other factors will be pointed out to me in the 
nicest way. 

Any offererings gladly received for which I thank you in advance. 

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Re: [newbie] Which version please

2002-12-28 Thread Robin Turner
Derek Byram wrote:

Hi all,

Can someone please suggest which version of Mandrake should give me the best 
performance running the following hardware where the machine WILL have a GUI 
(I like them :) but for the most part will then mostly be running an ssh 
server sans GUI, through my router?

Intel P200 on an ASUS mobo, 64 Mb RAM, 2gb HDD, 2mb ATI graphics, some 10/100 
ethernet card.

All the hardware seems to be standard enough to work with all versions that I 
have when used in other combinations.  I can pick between Mandrake 8, 8.1 
(download versions) and a purchased 8.2 (7 disk version).

I have to mention I have a soft spot for Version 8 as it was the first of any 
Linux distro that worked out of the box for me, (sound and internet) and has 
produced the best results on another machine (450 AMD 256 RAM), appearing to 
be more stable than the others but I value the opinions expressed here.

I anticipate it will involve something to do with which version of the kernel 
they are blessed with but other factors will be pointed out to me in the 
nicest way. 

Any offererings gladly received for which I thank you in advance. 

If you like 8.0, then why not stick with it?  It was a fine distro (as 
was 7.2, a definite high point in Mandrake's career).  Do NOT install 
8.1 - it was the distro from Hell (to be fair, this was not entirely 
Mandrake's fault - a number of key programs, such as supermount, were 
going through a bad period at that time).  8.2 is generally a good 
distro, though I had to downgrade the kernel to get the Internet to work.

However, if you're worried about your low hardware spec, the main thing 
is not which distro you install, but what you choose to run.  Don't use 
KDE - it's a great desktop environment, but it eats RAM and CPU cycles 
(as Oppenheimer might have said I have become KDE, devourer of RAM). 
Try something really light, like IceWM.  Forget OpenOffice, unless you 
feel like making dinner while it loads - use LyX for writing and 
Gnumeric for spreadsheets.

Sir Robin

--
Do unto others what you would like others to do unto you. And have fun 
doing it.
- Linus Torvalds

Robin Turner
IDMYO,
Bilkent University
Ankara 06533
Turkey

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Re: [newbie] strange hardware question .. how to tell the Wattage (Watts?) of a P/S

2002-12-28 Thread Derek Byram
On Saturday 28 December 2002 23:06, Charles A Edwards wrote:
 On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 15:50:00 -0700

 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Subject says it all... any ideas besides reading a label?

 Besides the label (watt listing or model )or your comp manual, if it is
 a pre-built system, you could use a voltage meter to check the output.


  Oh  Is

  there any diff between AT  ATX P/S's?

 The form factor is different.
 They are made to fix different case types, through there are some that
 are supposedly usable in either.


 Charles

 
 Get hold of portable property.  -- Charles Dickens, Great Expectations
 --
 Mandrake Linux 9.1
 Kernel- 2.4.20-2mdk
 --

Plenty of info on the net ... safer than speculation or butter knife 
experiments ;-)

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/mbsys/mobo/form.htm
http://www.webopedia.com/
http://whatis.techtarget.com/



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Re: [newbie] Which version please

2002-12-28 Thread Derek Byram
On Sunday 29 December 2002 01:06, Robin Turner wrote:
 Derek Byram wrote:
  Hi all,

SNIP

  Any offererings gladly received for which I thank you in advance.

 If you like 8.0, then why not stick with it?  It was a fine distro (as
 was 7.2, a definite high point in Mandrake's career).  Do NOT install
 8.1 - it was the distro from Hell (to be fair, this was not entirely
 Mandrake's fault - a number of key programs, such as supermount, were
 going through a bad period at that time).  8.2 is generally a good
 distro, though I had to downgrade the kernel to get the Internet to work.

 However, if you're worried about your low hardware spec, the main thing
 is not which distro you install, but what you choose to run.  Don't use
 KDE - it's a great desktop environment, but it eats RAM and CPU cycles
 (as Oppenheimer might have said I have become KDE, devourer of RAM).
 Try something really light, like IceWM.  Forget OpenOffice, unless you
 feel like making dinner while it loads - use LyX for writing and
 Gnumeric for spreadsheets.

 Sir Robin

Thank you kindly brave knight.

Great start, you have confirmed my suspicions about 8.1.  

8 seemed real complete.

I am only asking because I currently run the ssh server on my main machine, an 
Athlon XP1800 on SuSE 8.

A bit of overkill you might think and I agree.

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Re: [newbie] strange hardware question .. how to tell the Wattage (Watts?) of a P/S

2002-12-28 Thread Lee
On Saturday 28 December 2002 05:50 pm, you wrote:
 Subject says it all... any ideas besides reading a label?  Thx.  Oh  Is
 there any diff between AT  ATX P/S's?
 Merci



 -
 FemmeFatale

 Good Decisions You boss Made:
 We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
 character from Peanuts.

 - Source: Dilbert

Hard to tell without delving into the innards.  The rating is supposed to be 
assigned dependant on the capability of the components. (Regulator chip and 
or output transisters.)  Can't check it with meters because the rating is 
capability, not necessarily what you are asking of it.

Basically, the bigger the heat sinks, fans, and output components, the higher 
the rating.  (ability to dissipate heat)  Lot's of ways to cheat.

Lee


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Re: [newbie] Which version please

2002-12-28 Thread mycal62
I IMHO would recommend you use 8.0 if you can get it to work.

I too think it is a great version, an until just today I have stuck with 
it because I could not get everything
working in 8.2 or 9.0 so I would have to go back to 8.0. I finally got 
my printer ( hp 820cse ) working in 9.0
so now I'll stick with it for now.

But with that amount of Memory I'd try 8.0 first.  I have run it on a 
486 with 48 mg or ram.

My 2 cents


Mike McNeese 
Springdale, 
Arkansas USA

° 
Currently triple booting 98lite; MDK 8.0 kernel 2.4.3-20; 
MDK 9.0 kernel 2.4.19-16 Registered Linux User #248955

° 

If obstacles are what you see in your path...
Then you have lost sight of your goal!  



Derek Byram wrote:

Hi all,

Can someone please suggest which version of Mandrake should give me the best 
performance running the following hardware where the machine WILL have a GUI 
(I like them :) but for the most part will then mostly be running an ssh 
server sans GUI, through my router?

Intel P200 on an ASUS mobo, 64 Mb RAM, 2gb HDD, 2mb ATI graphics, some 10/100 
ethernet card.

All the hardware seems to be standard enough to work with all versions that I 
have when used in other combinations.  I can pick between Mandrake 8, 8.1 
(download versions) and a purchased 8.2 (7 disk version).

I have to mention I have a soft spot for Version 8 as it was the first of any 
Linux distro that worked out of the box for me, (sound and internet) and has 
produced the best results on another machine (450 AMD 256 RAM), appearing to 
be more stable than the others but I value the opinions expressed here.

I anticipate it will involve something to do with which version of the kernel 
they are blessed with but other factors will be pointed out to me in the 
nicest way. 

Any offererings gladly received for which I thank you in advance. 

 



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Re: [newbie] strange hardware question .. how to tell the Wattage (Watts?) of a P/S

2002-12-28 Thread FemmeFatale
At 09:52 PM 12/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:

On Saturday 28 December 2002 05:50 pm, you wrote:
 Subject says it all... any ideas besides reading a label?  Thx.  Oh  Is
 there any diff between AT  ATX P/S's?
 Merci



 -
 FemmeFatale

 Good Decisions You boss Made:
 We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
 character from Peanuts.

 - Source: Dilbert

Hard to tell without delving into the innards.  The rating is supposed to be
assigned dependant on the capability of the components. (Regulator chip and
or output transisters.)  Can't check it with meters because the rating is
capability, not necessarily what you are asking of it.

Basically, the bigger the heat sinks, fans, and output components, the higher
the rating.  (ability to dissipate heat)  Lot's of ways to cheat.

Lee



I found it thx.  Person on this list gave me the mysterious way to tell by 
reading some numbers embedded beside letters.  Heh, merci for advice though.
-
FemmeFatale

Good Decisions You boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.

- Source: Dilbert



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Re: [newbie] strange hardware question .. how to tell the Wattage (Watts?) of a P/S

2002-12-28 Thread FemmeFatale
At 01:59 AM 12/29/2002 +, you wrote:

On Saturday 28 December 2002 23:06, Charles A Edwards wrote:
 On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 15:50:00 -0700

 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Subject says it all... any ideas besides reading a label?

 Besides the label (watt listing or model )or your comp manual, if it is
 a pre-built system, you could use a voltage meter to check the output.


  Oh  Is

  there any diff between AT  ATX P/S's?

 The form factor is different.
 They are made to fix different case types, through there are some that
 are supposedly usable in either.


 Charles

 
 Get hold of portable property.  -- Charles Dickens, Great Expectations
 --
 Mandrake Linux 9.1
 Kernel- 2.4.20-2mdk
 --

Plenty of info on the net ... safer than speculation or butter knife
experiments ;-)

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/mbsys/mobo/form.htm
http://www.webopedia.com/
http://whatis.techtarget.com/



Hehe, but I like the experiment!  It sounded fun! :(  Party pooper... K 
i'll play safe  look where you suggest... Sigh... Can I at least play in 
my room Dad?

-
FemmeFatale

Good Decisions You boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.

- Source: Dilbert



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RE: [newbie] Using a Cyrix cpu with MMX

2002-12-28 Thread Richard Babcock
I had the exact same problem with the exact same cpu (different mb no doubt,
you couldn't have the pos I have). It turned out I needed more memory. Not
knowing a lot about the mb or the chips I bought I'm still trying to figure
out why two 128mb chips give me 65mb of memory. The happy part is ML 8.2
runs very well and installed flawlessly (keeping in mind that I only wanted
a file server so no heavy graphics or multi-media stuff is installed).
On the other side of the fence is the fact that I shouldn't be putting money
into this old mb and I need a bigger hd anyway so I will no doubt replace
the mb with something that will like my chips, find a used 20g hd somewhere
and only keep the case and it's accoutrements (cdrom, cdburner, floppy).
It was a fun project though!
R
-
Richard L. Babcock, Owner
Tower Training
At Tower Training, We Bring the Classroom to You!
www.towertraining.net

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anne Wilson
 Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:55 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Using a Cyrix cpu with MMX


 On Friday 27 Dec 2002 2:33 pm, Poogle wrote:
  On Friday 27 Dec 2002 H:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
   On Friday 27 Dec 2002 1:32 pm, Poogle wrote:
On Friday 27 Dec 2002 H:40 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 How likely is it that I could get 9.0 or 8.2 to install with this
 cpu? Has anyone got a working system with this architecture?

 Anne
   
Anne,
I installed it on a Cyrix box without problems (something like a 366
IIRC but I don't have access to it to check at the moment)

 Well, I tried it this morning.  It's a 233 with MMX, so it's at
 the bottom end
 of supportable hardware, and it failed utterly.  I got as far as F1 for
 options, F2 to install, then a blank screen, and absolutely
 nothing.  I'm not
 sure it's worth spending too much time, and certainly not money, on this
 machine.  If anyone knows a likely cause, I'll have one more try,
 but I'm not
 too hopeful.

 Anne





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[newbie] manipulating xwindows

2002-12-28 Thread Richard Babcock
Greetings,
My file server occasionally doubles as a guest computer. May sound crazy but
it works with my setup. I have created an account called 'guest' and would
like to cause the xwindow login dialog to appear from the command line
without logging in. It would be as if I selected 'automatically start
xwindows on startup' from the Mandrake Control Center but I want the
flexibility of remaining at the command line 90 percent of the time and
letting a guest into x 10 percent of the time without going into x myself,
reconfiguring and then restarting.
Sowhat is being run before login that produces the graphical login
screen?
Andcan it be run 'by hand?'
tia
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Re: [newbie] strange hardware question .. how to tell the Wattage (Watts?) of a P/S

2002-12-28 Thread Derek Byram
On Sunday 29 December 2002 02:39, FemmeFatale wrote:
 At 01:59 AM 12/29/2002 +, you wrote:
 On Saturday 28 December 2002 23:06, Charles A Edwards wrote:
   On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 15:50:00 -0700
  
   FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

SNIP

there any diff between AT  ATX P/S's?

SNIP

 
 Plenty of info on the net ... safer than speculation or butter knife
 experiments ;-)
 
 http://www.pcguide.com/ref/mbsys/mobo/form.htm
 http://www.webopedia.com/
 http://whatis.techtarget.com/

 Hehe, but I like the experiment!  It sounded fun! :(  Party pooper... K
 i'll play safe  look where you suggest... Sigh... Can I at least play in
 my room Dad?

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 We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
 character from Peanuts.

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Re: [newbie] Which version please

2002-12-28 Thread Derek Byram
On Saturday 28 December 2002 14:46, mycal62 wrote:
 I IMHO would recommend you use 8.0 if you can get it to work.

 I too think it is a great version, an until just today I have stuck with
 it because I could not get everything
 working in 8.2 or 9.0 so I would have to go back to 8.0. I finally got
 my printer ( hp 820cse ) working in 9.0
 so now I'll stick with it for now.

 But with that amount of Memory I'd try 8.0 first.  I have run it on a
 486 with 48 mg or ram.

 My 2 cents


 Mike McNeese
 Springdale,
 Arkansas USA

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Thanks for that.  I am certain I'll take off the 8.1 I am trying ATM and go 
for 8.

Your USA 2 cents is worth a lot as it was honestly given.

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Re: [newbie] strange hardware question .. how to tell the Wattage (Watts?) of a P/S

2002-12-28 Thread Joeb
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 16:38:55 -0700
FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 06:06 PM 12/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
 On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 15:50:00 -0700
 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Subject says it all... any ideas besides reading a label?
 
 Besides the label (watt listing or model )or your comp manual, if it is
 a pre-built system, you could use a voltage meter to check the output.
 
 
   Oh  Is
   there any diff between AT  ATX P/S's?
 
 The form factor is different.
 They are made to fix different case types, through there are some that
 are supposedly usable in either.
 
 
  Charles
 
 hm ... volt meter... i think we have one.. and b/f is very good @ 
 electronics.  I asked about the AT/X thing cause this mobo is bizarre.  It 
 accepts both factors.  And I have a 250 watt P/S  case available...and if 
 the original p/s that came with the comp is underpowered I'll just use the 
 ATX 250 watter.
 
 -
 FemmeFatale

Using the ATX power supply may not work for you.  Even though the board may accept 
either one (I've got a board like that), the power switch on the case won't!  Most 
likely, the power switch is a mechanical switch that actually has wires from the power 
supply going to it.  ATX power supplies don't have these power wires, instead the 
momentary contact switch used as the power switch goes to the system board (that's why 
many ATX power supplies have a physical on/off switch on the power supply itself).  
Unfortunately, without the momentary switch, you won't be able to turn the computer 
on/off.

This sounds like an older system.  What are you trying to run that you don't thing the 
250 watts will be enough?

Joeb


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Re: [newbie] Which version please

2002-12-28 Thread Michael Viron
Just to clarify -- the last release for the 486 was 7.0, not 8.0 .

If you installed 8.0 and had it working, it was a Pentium class processor.

Michael
At 08:46 AM 12/28/2002 -0600, you wrote:
I IMHO would recommend you use 8.0 if you can get it to work.

I too think it is a great version, an until just today I have stuck with 
it because I could not get everything
working in 8.2 or 9.0 so I would have to go back to 8.0. I finally got 
my printer ( hp 820cse ) working in 9.0
so now I'll stick with it for now.

But with that amount of Memory I'd try 8.0 first.  I have run it on a 
486 with 48 mg or ram.

My 2 cents


Mike McNeese 
Springdale, 
Arkansas USA

° 
Currently triple booting 98lite; MDK 8.0 kernel 2.4.3-20; 
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Re: [newbie] strange hardware question .. how to tell the Wattage (Watts?) of a P/S

2002-12-28 Thread FemmeFatale
At 09:52 PM 12/28/2002 -0600, you wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 16:38:55 -0700
FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 06:06 PM 12/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:

Using the ATX power supply may not work for you.  Even though the board 
may accept either one (I've got a board like that), the power switch on 
the case won't!  Most likely, the power switch is a mechanical switch that 
actually has wires from the power supply going to it.  ATX power supplies 
don't have these power wires, instead the momentary contact switch used as 
the power switch goes to the system board (that's why many ATX power 
supplies have a physical on/off switch on the power supply 
itself).  Unfortunately, without the momentary switch, you won't be able 
to turn the computer on/off.

This sounds like an older system.  What are you trying to run that you 
don't thing the 250 watts will be enough?

Joeb


Nothing... Just wanted to get rid of another AT case if I can.  I have 3 
now, and am getting rid of 2 as soon as I can.  Maybe someone in Edmonton 
wants em?  Cause I sure don't. :)

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We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.

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Re: [newbie] before I quit

2002-12-28 Thread Aaron
Thanks for the response,
sorry I didn't respond back sooner but I changed email programs and just
now finished updating all the threads.

I now sorta have the drives working. The problem was that in my fstab I
had scd0 and scd1 but when I tried to mount them I got an error not a
block device.
I looked in /dev/cdroms/ and I saw the entried cdrom0 and cdrom1 I added
them to my fstab and voila the drives mount now. It just makes no sense
to me but there you have it.
Still my ide plextor gives me a message no media found but when I try to
mount the light goes on and I see it trying to scan the drive so I know
its working.

Thanks so far.
Aaron

On Fri, 2002-12-27 at 12:59, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 27 Dec 2002 11:46 am, Aaron wrote:
  Hi I have been running mandrake 9.0 for the last few months.
  I have a number of hardware issues which I can't seem to resolve.
  I am writing one last time before I install RedHat.
 
  I have three cdroms on my computer
  one is a dvd ide drive hitachi
  the second is and ide plextor burner 40/12/40a
  and the third is a true scsi plextor 40max
 
  The only one I can use as a cd drive is the dvd one.
 
 Do you mean that you can't even read from the others?  My Hitachi dvd drive is 
 the one I installed from, therefore the one that all updates are taken from.  
 This may be the case with you, but you should be able to read from the 
 others.
 
  The writer worked from eroster and webadmin until last week when I get
  errors (which I don't remember)
 
  the drives are not mountable etc.
 
 Which method do you use to try to mount them?  What happens?
 
  here is my fstab,
 
  /dev/hda5 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2
  none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
  /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto
  codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0
  /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom2 auto
 
 If this one is the burner, it needs the ro changing to rw
 
  codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0
 
 This is my equivalent line:
 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount 
 dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
 
 Of course, supermount doesn't work in every setup, so using auto instead 
 should work fine.  Keep it simple, at least until you have a working system, 
 then make changes one at a time.
 
  /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom3 auto
  codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0
  /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto
  iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,sync,unhide,noauto,nosuid,user,nodev 0
  0
  none /proc proc defaults 0 0
  /dev/hda8 /snd ext3 defaults 1 2
  /dev/hda1 /windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
  /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0
  ---
  The second problem is my printer I have a usb deskjet 3420 of HP.
  Mandrake finds it and installs all the necessary drivers etc. but it
  doesnt print a test page or any other page for that matter.
 
 The driver installed by default isn't always the best one.  Go to Mandrake 
 Control Centre, remove the printer, then re-install it.  Take care to use the 
 Advanced (or is it Expert?) button, which lists the models in detail.  This 
 should ensure that you get the best driver.  It's very difficult to change 
 the driver on an existing printer setup.  Much easier and quicker to start 
 again.
 
 Anne
 
 
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Re: [newbie] before I quit

2002-12-28 Thread Aaron
Yes I agree that all distros have their own quirks and I am now back on
board.

The drives all worked on my win boot that was what was making me
crazy...
And even crazier is the fact that the cdburning stuff found my cdr and
used it succesfully..
:)

The printer is another bag of beans, I went and downloaded the driver
from HP. I installed it according to instructions but I just couldn't
understand how to enter the command line options they gave to test the
configuration.

I tried reinstalling from scratch with the new driver but no results.
Since my cd problem is solved I have regained a bit of patience for the
printer, although it is a bit frustrating to reboot everytime you need
to print

I am going to the printing user groups archives to see how others got up
and running.
Thanks to all who answered.
Aaron


On Fri, 2002-12-27 at 02:25, mycal62 wrote:
 Hi ,
 
 have you tried to run the cd drives in other boxes to insure they work?
 
 also have you changed the IDE cable first?
 
 I ask because I went through a similar situation.  it turned out to be 
 the slave connection on a UDMA cable.
 the master was fine but the slave was bad though it was a new cable. 
  after several hours of fighting it, I changed the cable and I put in a 
 cd drive I thought was dead, but now works fine. it was the cable.
 this was a hard one to figure out because the drives would show up in 
 the bios, but would not work in the os.
 
 also I have had other cd drives that were not perfect that Linux ( RH or 
 MDK whatever ) would not play with
 because they were not perfect.
 
 I am loyal to MDK , primarily because it's Linux, and I like the 
 interface, your flavor may vary ;-)
 
 Mike
 
 Aaron wrote:
 
 Hi I have been running mandrake 9.0 for the last few months.
 I have a number of hardware issues which I can't seem to resolve.
 I am writing one last time before I install RedHat.
 
 I have three cdroms on my computer
 one is a dvd ide drive hitachi
 the second is and ide plextor burner 40/12/40a
 and the third is a true scsi plextor 40max
 
 The only one I can use as a cd drive is the dvd one.
 The writer worked from eroster and webadmin until last week when I get
 errors (which I don't remember)
 
 the drives are not mountable etc.
 here is my fstab,
 
 /dev/hda5 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2
 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto
 codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0
 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom2 auto
 codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0
 /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom3 auto
 codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0
 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto
 iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,sync,unhide,noauto,nosuid,user,nodev 0
 0
 none /proc proc defaults 0 0
 /dev/hda8 /snd ext3 defaults 1 2
 /dev/hda1 /windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0
 ---
 The second problem is my printer I have a usb deskjet 3420 of HP.
 Mandrake finds it and installs all the necessary drivers etc. but it
 doesnt print a test page or any other page for that matter.
 -
 If anyone can help me it would be most appreciated. I have down loaded
 redhat 8 and thought I would give mandrake one more chance before I
 install it (I like the interface etc of the distribution)
   
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] strange hardware question .. how to tell the Wattage(Watts?) of a P/S

2002-12-28 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 15:56, FemmeFatale wrote:

 Nothing... Just wanted to get rid of another AT case if I can.  I have 3 
 now, and am getting rid of 2 as soon as I can.  Maybe someone in Edmonton 
 wants em?  Cause I sure don't. :)
 
 -
 FemmeFatale

Too bad y'all don't wanna send 'em here to convictland...need more cases
to mod !!

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RE: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation

2002-12-28 Thread Brandon Vanderberg

Adding sources and disabling supermount are two different things.

To disable supermount, it was something like 'supermount -i disable', then
'mount -a'.

The main thing was adding the other sources. Now you have a choice. If you
have a slow cd like I do, then you don't want to add the other cds. If you
don't have much hard disk space, then you don't want to copy the cd's onto
your disk. And if you don't have a fast Internet connection, then you don't
wanna add the FTP source. Once you figure out which you'd like to do, follow
the relevant procedure below.

BTW, in my case, I've got a slow cd and limited hd space but a fast
connection. I chose to add the ftp source.

To add FTP sources, go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php#third
it'll have you chose which mirror, version, and architecture you want, then
present you with a command to type in. I found it very easy. Then go into
software sources manager and remove the installation cd as one of the
sources.

To copy the CD to the hd, create a dir on a partition that has enough space
for all 3 cds - something like /home/mandrake will work. Insert and mount
your first cd and copy the contents to this directory. Somewhere in there
will be a dir called RPMS. On the 2nd and 3rd cd are directories called
RPM2, RPM3, etc. Copy these dirs over so that all the rpm dirs are in the
same place. Now from the software sources manager, remove the installation
cd as one of the sources, and then add a new source. I'd call it local or
something like that and browse to find where the hdlist is in this new dir.

Finally, to just add the 2nd and 3rd cds, go into software sources manager
and add removable media with each (in turn) inserted and mounted. If you
edit the cd source that's already there, you'll see how to do the others.


~Brandon




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hendrik Boom
 Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Hendrik Boom
 Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during
 installation


 On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:52:48 -0800
  Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 18:22:49 -0500
  Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:04:43 -0800
   Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
I think you will find that the problem is lack of memory. The bare
 minimum for ML9
  is 64megs.
  
  
   In this case the reason is more apt to be lack of fd space.
  
   For a PowerPack install to request other than cd1 requires around 2
gigs
 or more.
   This is due to the pkgs being ordered on the cds in to include depends
 and as they
  need to be installed and the fact the the installation creates a /tmp
to
 which many
  of the pkgs are copied prior to installation.
   This being why the fd space required for installation exceeds the
space
 required for
  the actually used once the installation is complete.
  
  
   Charles
  
  I'm finding that even with more than adequate space, if you have a slow,
 low memory
  computer ( I have several g ), the installer doesn't want to put much
 more in than
  what is necessary. This is really obvious if you need to go to a text
 install.
 
  Spence

 Well, disk space is not a problem.  I have 2 gig available in my Mandrake
 root partition, and can easily expand that to 10 gig if necessary.  The 48
 meg is probably the real restriction.  And it's stupid, too.  The machine
 has more than enough capacity for what I really want to do, and am doing
on
 SuSE Linux now.  Occasionally it slows doen, but not seriously, and I did
 want to get started with the new kernel, which is rumoured to be smaller
and
 faster, and do a better and more flexible job of packet filtering.

 And even emacs did not appear during the install.

 There must be a way around this.  Could it be that the installer really
 needs more than 48 meg to sort dependencies, and is incapable of using
swap
 space?

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