[newbie-it] librerie mancanti

2003-05-29 Thread Gianluca
Ciao a tutti.
Ho utilizzato senza problemi la Mandrake 9.0. Ho da poco installato la
versione 9.1 e qui iniziano i problemi.
Si da il caso infatti che ogni volta che il computer non viene spento
correttamente (black-out o blocco del pc), XFree decida di non avviarsi più.
Mi spiego meglio: al riavvio viene fatto il controllo sull'integrità del
filesystem (ext3) e di solito viene ritrovato un errore che viene corretto.
Si avvia la modalità testuale e fin qui tutto ok. Facendo partire il server
grafico con uno startx sembra che XFree si avvii, ma subito prima dello
splash-screen del kde c'e un errore nel caricamento del kdeinit. Mi ritorna
in modalità testuale e vedo che ci sono degli errori nel caricamento di
alcune librerie (error while loading shared libraries: libkdeui.so.4: cannot
open shared file: no such file or directory).
Il file in questione non c'è da nessuna parte, ma in compenso c'è un
libkdeui.so in /usr/lib. Ho provato a farne un link simbolico a partire da
queso file, ma niente. Ho aggiunto la cartella /usr/lib nel file
/etc/ld.so.conf e poi ho lanciato ldconfig, ma non funziona comunque.
Lo stesso messaggio di errore lo ricevo se provo a far partire gnome solo
che in questo caso la libreria è libgnomecanvas-2.so.0 e, spulciando il file
/var/log/boot, vedo che anche dei servizi all'avvio non partono perchè non
trovano delle librerie.
Come ultimo tentativo ho provato ad aggiungere un altro utente e a fare il
login con quello, ma nulla di fatto.
Qualcuno può dirmi cosa posso fare (oltre reinstallare tutto)?
Grazie.




Re: [newbie-it] librerie mancanti

2003-05-29 Thread Andrea Celli
Alle 16:16, mercoledì 28 maggio 2003, Gianluca ha scritto:
 Ciao a tutti.
 Mi ritorna in modalità testuale e vedo che ci sono degli errori
 nel caricamento di alcune librerie (error while loading shared libraries:
 libkdeui.so.4: cannot open shared file: no such file or directory).
 Il file in questione non c'è da nessuna parte, ma in compenso c'è un
 libkdeui.so in /usr/lib. 

dovrebbe far parte del pacchetto kdelibs.
Prova a reinstallarlo.

Magari prima prova un rpm -V kdelibs dovrebbe verificare l'integrità
del pacchetto installato. Almeno a leggere il man di rpm.
Non l'ho mai provato ;-)

ciao, andrea



[newbie-it] dvd ogle sound alsa

2003-05-29 Thread paolo brusasco
ciao a tutti. sto tentando di far funzionare ogle (o qualunque roba per 
vedere i dvd) sotto 9.1.
ho installato
libdvdcss2
ogle
ogle-gui
e relative dipendenze da penguin liberation front.
quando lancio ogle ed apro il supporto dvd, mi visualizza per alcuni 
secondi i primi fotogrammi poi si schianta. la parte significativa dell' 
output sembra essere
Debug[ogle_audio]: decode_a52: found sync
Note[ogle_audio]: Using audio driver 'alsa'
[ogle_alsa]: Opening device: default
[ogle_alsa]: error while opening alsa.
: No such file or directory
FATAL[ogle_audio]: failed opening the alsa audio driver at default
forse devo dire qualcosa in configurazione?
il bello è che se clicco  edit -properties non succede nulla.
posso editare a manina il file di configurazione con kxmleditor ma non 
so cosa fare.
grazie.




[newbie-it] problemi audio...

2003-05-29 Thread Luigi Pinna
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Ciao a tutti! Oggi dopo aver finalmente risolto il problema TV e radio 
mi son scontrato con una cosa curiosa:
L#audio funziona regolarmente per mplayer, radio, xawtv ma non funziona 
con xmms e xine.
Posso trovare una soluzione o devo reinstallare questi programmi?
(saranno le famose applicazioni che dopo la ricompilazione del kernel 
vanno ricompilate di cui mi parlava mike?)
Ciao e bello sentire la radio...
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Vi diro' molto del niente che so e tutto del qualcosa che sento.
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Re: [newbie-it] dvd ogle sound alsa

2003-05-29 Thread Luigi Pinna
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Alle 18:00, mercoledì 28 maggio 2003, paolo brusasco ha scritto:
 ciao a tutti. sto tentando di far funzionare ogle (o qualunque roba
 per vedere i dvd) sotto 9.1
 ho installato
 libdvdcss2
 ogle
 ogle-gui
 e relative dipendenze da penguin liberation front
 quando lancio ogle ed apro il supporto dvd, mi visualizza per alcuni
 secondi i primi fotogrammi poi si schianta. la parte significativa
 dell' output sembra essere
 Debug[ogle_audio]: decode_a52: found sync
 Note[ogle_audio]: Using audio driver 'alsa'
 [ogle_alsa]: Opening device: default
 [ogle_alsa]: error while opening alsa

 : No such file or directory

 FATAL[ogle_audio]: failed opening the alsa audio driver at default
 forse devo dire qualcosa in configurazione?
 il bello è che se clicco  edit -properties non succede nulla
 posso editare a manina il file di configurazione con kxmleditor ma
 non so cosa fare
 grazie

Io lo ho installato usando il pacchetto che usa i driver oss; hai 
provato ad installare quella versione? I driver alsa a creano solo 
casini quindi non li uso!
Questi sono i pacchetti che ho usato io e il tutto funziona!
libdvdcss-1.2.6-fr1.i386.rpm
libdvdcss-devel-1.2.6-fr1.i386.rpm
libdvdread-0.9.4-ogle1.i386.rpm
ogle-0.9.1-ogle1.i586.rpm
ogle_gui-0.9.1-ogle1.i386.rpm
xvattr-1.3-ogle1.i386.rpm
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Se non fosse cosi' caldo oggi, sarebbe piu' fresco.
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Re: [newbie-it] problemi audio...

2003-05-29 Thread freefred
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On Wednesday 28 May 2003 18:04, Luigi Pinna wrote:
 Ciao a tutti! Oggi dopo aver finalmente risolto il problema TV e radio
 mi son scontrato con una cosa curiosa:
 L#audio funziona regolarmente per mplayer, radio, xawtv ma non funziona
 con xmms e xine.

sorry per la domanda banale: hai provato almeno con l'xmms tutti i server 
sonori?
(arts, oss, esd, quelli che hai insomma)

bye

- -- 
Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia
http://www.acidlife.com/mayhem/freefred/
Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://www.marcob.org/go.asp?~freefred/
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Re: [newbie-it] uno scherzo da mutt

2003-05-29 Thread Arwan
Alle Tuesday 27 May 2003 23:42, a proposito di Re: [newbie-it] uno scherzo da 
mutt (e chissa' a cosa pensava veramente), Giuseppe Ferruzzi ha scritto: 

 Ok ti capisco il tempo è tiranno e poi ogni tanto occorre una pausa per
 riordinare le idee.
 Quando avrai sistemato, se vuoi, facci sapere a che punto sei con mutt.

Se voglio? Sara' la vostra maledizione finche' tutto non andra' a dovere!

 La procedura è stata questa, ho preventivamente selezionato e copiato le
 mail sia quelle buone che indesiderate da dentro vecchie inbox di Mozilla
 mail con un editor e ricopiate brutalmente in una inbox, poi riformattata
 con formail per evitare incompatibilità di formato, e che ho nominato
 `test'. 

formail mi preoccupa... primo perche' non l'ho installato, secondo perche' 
devo ancora capire cos'e' e cos fa. Ma verra' il momento anche per lui (mi sa 
molto prima di quanto prevedessi)

 Se ti ricordi nei mie precedenti messaggi ho eloggiato syd per questo suo
 utilizzo di procmail dopo la connessione.

Yes, ricordo :-)

 Spero che questa disquisizione ti sia servita da stimolo per trovare quel
 tempo che dici che ti manca per rimetterti a sperimentare.

Ehm... e' che sto seguendo un altro progetto... non c'entra nulla con Linux, 
pero' ve lo dico lo stesso: se siete appassionati del genere fantasy (dai 
giochi di ruolo ai film, libri etc etc) dal primo giugno tenete sott'occhio 
il sito www.fantasymagazine.it

-- 
Arwan





Re: [newbie-it] [Lunghetto]Era schermo centrato ora : Perch X non riesce a partire con i settaggi che gli d?

2003-05-29 Thread stefano

 e allora mandaci pinco.pallo

C'era! era il pezzo:

XFree86 Version 4.3.0
Release Date: 27 February 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.21-0.13mdksmp i686 [ELF] 
Build Date: 12 March 2003
Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Mon May 26 09:43:27 2003
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
Using vt 7
(II) [GLX]: Initializing GLX extension
xf86KbdEvents Resource temporarily unavailable

waiting for X server to shut down 



 okkio
 questi moduli sono stati compilati per Xfree 4.0.2
 quindi con gcc 2.95.3

Uso gli stessi driver sul PC Grande con la stessa relase (MDK 9.1) e non ho 
problemi!


  # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
  # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
  ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494
  563 -hsync -vsync

 queste modeline sono per il tuo flat panel?
 mi sembrano strane.. 1024x480  ??

HELP il mio flaty non  1024 * 480 ma bensi 1024 * 768  proveder a commentare 
la riga (tra l'altro non  neanche unn Sony ma bensi un Toshiba sat pro 
6100!)


 hai provato commentandole se l'autoprobe riesce a trovare delle
 frequenze utilizzabili?

si freeza e non riesco a lanciarlo!

 hai letto quel warning nel  XFree86.0.log?
 *(WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode 1024x768 (width 1024 is larger than
 *(WW) NVIDIA(0):  EDID-specified maximum 969)
 

 l'inghippo lo spiega qui...

 a naso hai delle modeline sballate..

 *(II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 800 x 600

 ecco il risultato

 prova col commentarle altrimenti esistono programmini che le calcolano
 non ho url sottomano ma con google li trovi sicuramente

Commento anche queste righe e poi vedo

Grazie ancora.



Re: [newbie-it] problemi audio...

2003-05-29 Thread Michele
freefred ha scritto:

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On Wednesday 28 May 2003 18:04, Luigi Pinna wrote:
 

Ciao a tutti! Oggi dopo aver finalmente risolto il problema TV e radio
mi son scontrato con una cosa curiosa:
L#audio funziona regolarmente per mplayer, radio, xawtv ma non funziona
con xmms e xine.
   

sorry per la domanda banale: hai provato almeno con l'xmms tutti i server 
sonori?

Il sonoro e midi in play mi funzia benissimo solo che appena istallata 
la MDK9.1 registarva benissimo con audacity e con gnomemeeting nelle 
prove audio dello stesso mi rispondeva bene, ora non so cos'è successo 
questo è il punto.

(arts, oss, esd, quelli che hai insomma)

bye

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Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia
http://www.acidlife.com/mayhem/freefred/
Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://www.marcob.org/go.asp?~freefred/
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Re: [newbie-it] dvd ogle sound alsa

2003-05-29 Thread Michele
paolo brusasco ha scritto:

ciao a tutti. sto tentando di far funzionare ogle (o qualunque roba 
per vedere i dvd) sotto 9.1.
ho installato
libdvdcss2
ogle
ogle-gui
e relative dipendenze da penguin liberation front.
quando lancio ogle ed apro il supporto dvd, mi visualizza per alcuni 
secondi i primi fotogrammi poi si schianta. la parte significativa 
dell' output sembra essere
Debug[ogle_audio]: decode_a52: found sync
Note[ogle_audio]: Using audio driver 'alsa'
[ogle_alsa]: Opening device: default
[ogle_alsa]: error while opening alsa.
: No such file or directory
FATAL[ogle_audio]: failed opening the alsa audio driver at default
forse devo dire qualcosa in configurazione?
il bello è che se clicco  edit -properties non succede nulla.
posso editare a manina il file di configurazione con kxmleditor ma non 
so cosa fare.
grazie. 


E' evidente che hai istallato una versione di Ogle che si appoggia solo 
sui driver alsa, che per l'appunto sul tuo sistema funzionano male o 
mancano addirittura.










Re: [newbie-it] dvd ogle sound alsa

2003-05-29 Thread Michele
Michele ha scritto:

paolo brusasco ha scritto:

ciao a tutti. sto tentando di far funzionare ogle (o qualunque roba 
per vedere i dvd) sotto 9.1.
ho installato
libdvdcss2
ogle
ogle-gui
e relative dipendenze da penguin liberation front.
quando lancio ogle ed apro il supporto dvd, mi visualizza per alcuni 
secondi i primi fotogrammi poi si schianta. la parte significativa 
dell' output sembra essere
Debug[ogle_audio]: decode_a52: found sync
Note[ogle_audio]: Using audio driver 'alsa'
[ogle_alsa]: Opening device: default
[ogle_alsa]: error while opening alsa.
: No such file or directory
FATAL[ogle_audio]: failed opening the alsa audio driver at default
forse devo dire qualcosa in configurazione?
il bello è che se clicco  edit -properties non succede nulla.
posso editare a manina il file di configurazione con kxmleditor ma 
non so cosa fare.
grazie. 


E' evidente che hai istallato una versione di Ogle che si appoggia 
solo sui driver alsa, che per l'appunto sul tuo sistema funzionano 
male o mancano addirittura.









Ogle secondo me  è il migliore, ma puoi leggere i dvd con mplayer o xine 
(li trovi nella ditribuzione).




Re: [newbie-it] uno scherzo da mutt

2003-05-29 Thread Giuseppe Ferruzzi
* Arwan wrote: 
 Se voglio? Sara' la vostra maledizione finche' tutto non andra' a dovere!
Speriamo bene allora... Ma sono sicuro che alla fine ci supererai.
 formail mi preoccupa... 
Mah! Io non gli ho dato cosi tanto peso ho solo preso dal man la giusta regola 
per riformattare e basta, non mi è servito altro.
 dal primo giugno tenete sott'occhio il sito www.fantasymagazine.it
Sarò curioso di vedere com'è.

Ci risentiamo allora... vedrai che riusciremo a mettere queste ali a mutt.

Ciao, Giuseppe.

-- 
Red Hat Linux 9 (Shrike)
Kernel 2.4.20



[newbie-it] Re: Rete Linux-Amiga e condivisione della connessione

2003-05-29 Thread Mauro
 
 Cosa vuol dire che non sta girando un server ftp? Dal lato Amiga non
 faccio nulla di particolare, se non il fatto di lanciare un client ftp,
 digitare l'host, il numero della porta, l'username e la pw, senza
 lanciare altri programmi di sottofondo. E funziona! Dal lato linux
 faccio lo stesso identico procedimento, con la differenza che non
 funzia... :°°°(
 
 Sorry avevo capito il contrario. Cioe', ricapitolando: dall'amiga a linux
 rieci a fare ftp ma non da linux all'Amiga?
 Per poter accedere in ftp a un altro pc e' necessario comunque che su quel
 sistema giri un ftp server, che di default appunto sta in ascolto sulla
 porta 21, e se non configurato diversamente ti fa entrare con username e
 pasword di un utente valido.
 A questo punto se ho capito bene, sulla Mandrake hai gia' un ftp server a
 cui accedi dall'Amiga.
 Se vuoi fare anche il contrario, devi installare sull'Amiga un ftp server.
 Ho confuso?

Ordunque, ho trovato un ftp server (in verità ce ne sono parecchi), quello
che ho scaricato si chiama ftp4all.
L'ho mandato in esecuzione, e ho provato a lavorare da shell, ma il
risultato è sempre quello, cioè da Amiga riesco ad entrare e visualizzare
su linux, mentre se provo a fare la stessa cosa, mi dice:
connection refused
Probabilmente devo modificare il file di configurazione ftpd.conf, ma il
manuale è scritto in inglese, e non ho capito 'na mazza. 

Se qualche anima pia ha tempo di guardarlo e di dirmi cosa dovrei
modificare, ne sarei molto felice.
Il file è:

# This is an example configuration file that allows quick start
#
# In this example, /home/user/ftp is used as the directory under which all
# other files go. The root directory of the FTP server is
/home/user/ftp/root
# The files needed for running the server itself are stored under
# /home/user/ftp/server . These files are:
# (1) ftpd - the executable FTP daemon
# (2) ftps - the server invoked by ftpd
# (3) ftpd.conf - this configuration file
# (4) groups - the group definition file (use ./groups for quick start) and
# (5) users - the user definition file (user ./users for quick start)
#
# The server is launched by typing ftpd in /home/user/ftp/server
# It installes itself on port 2000, allows 5 anonymous and 10 registered
# users to be logged in at the same time. 
# Timeout is 2 minutes for anonymous and 10 minutes for registered users.
# The most important user commands (login/logout, transfer and file
# manipulation) are logged in /home/user/ftp/server/ftpd.log
# The error log file is /home/user/ftp/server/ftpd.err . These two files
# will be created automatically
#
# Lets have a look at the setup options in particular. Modify as required.

# base directory, is root directory of server
basedir /home/tmp/ftp

# message to display after successful login
welcomemsg
Welcome, %S - I have not seen you since %l !
At the moment, there are %a guest and %u registered users logged in.
You uploaded %P and downloaded %D so far (u/d-ratio is %R).
welcomemsg

# message to show when user logges out
goodbyemsg
Goodbye, %S !
You uploaded %p during this session (%P total).
You downloaded %d during this session (%D total).
Your Upload/Download ratio is %r (%R total).
See you soon ...
goodbyemsg

# file to read more user definitions from
userfile /home/tmp/ftp/etc/users

# file to read more user groups from
groupfile /home/tmp/ftp/etc/groups

# log user activities
log del get login logout md put rd

# file to log user activities
logfile /home/tmp/ftp/log/ftpd.log

# file to store error messages
errlogfile /home/tmp/ftp/log/errlog

# maximum number of anonymous users logged in at the same time
maxanon 5

# maximum number of registered users logged in at the same time
maxuser 10

# file to store access permissions in
permissionfile .perm

# file to display when directory is changed
readmefile .readme

# port to accept connections from
port 21

# name of program, as shown by ps
programname ftps

# name of program to serve clients
serverprogram /usr/sbin/ftps

# message to be sent to client on connection
startupmsg
FTP4ALL FTP server ready. Local time is %t.
startupmsg

# timeout value for anonymous users
timeoutanon 120

# timeout value for registered users
timeoutuser 600

# umask for the files on the shell
umask 022

Mauro



Re: [newbie-it] Re: Rete Linux-Amiga e condivisione della connessione

2003-05-29 Thread freefred
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 23:57, Mauro wrote:

 Ordunque, ho trovato un ftp server (in verità ce ne sono parecchi), quello
 che ho scaricato si chiama ftp4all.

Sorry la domanda, ma l'hai installato sull' Amiga?
il server e' in esecuzione?
le directory che cerca esistono?

bye
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http://www.acidlife.com/mayhem/freefred/
Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://www.marcob.org/go.asp?~freefred/



Re: [newbie-it] dvd ogle sound alsa

2003-05-29 Thread Emiliano La Licata
Alle 21:59, mercoledì 28 maggio 2003, Michele ha scritto:


 E' evidente che hai istallato una versione di Ogle che si appoggia solo
 sui driver alsa, che per l'appunto sul tuo sistema funzionano male o
 mancano addirittura.

Quasi tutti credo abbiamo avuto problemi con Alsa e mdk 9.1, il kernel ha un 
bug, quando tenti di entrare da menuconfig in alsa salta del tutto menuconfig 
e nella shell ci sono messaggi di errore..
Ma possbile che quelli della mdk non se ne siano accorti?
Oppure su alcuni pc i driver Alsa funzionano correttamente?





RE: [newbie] Checking for new Hardware

2003-05-29 Thread Myers, Dennis R NWO
Title: RE: [newbie] Checking for new Hardware







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Richard Smith
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:22 AM
To: NEWBIE 1
Subject: [newbie] Checking for new Hardware



Does anyone else find that the bootup of M9.1 spends a long time 
checking for new hardware every time.


John


-- 
John Richard Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


I think if you turn off harddrake at boot then it will not look for new hardware. HTH Dennis M.





Re: [newbie] *Fast* file contents search tool?

2003-05-29 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 12:00 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
 Ok I found a fast graphical interface for slocate. In fact I found three :-

 xlocate - I did not find a download site, but it will be out there
 somewhere.

 klocate2 - Two versions. One for KDE2 and one for KDE3
 http://apps.kde.com/rf/2/latest  I tried to compile it, but so far without
 success.


I managed to compile klocate2 for Mandrake 9.1
If anyone would like to try it out go here
http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=1

derek
-- 
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Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Xmms

2003-05-29 Thread Joe Hill
On 28 May 2003 22:22:12 +0800
Daniel Guidara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I try add a song and it wont let me, it doesn't tell me if theres an
 error either. Any suggestions to what the problem could be?

what's the file extension? if it doesn't recognize the filetype, it
behaves like that. rather stupid not to at least give an error, IMO.

but then i am no coder.

-- 
+ Joe Hill  (pbs.org/joehill)
+ Registered Linux user #282046
+ See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net
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+   the point, however is to change it --Chuck Marx




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Re: [newbie] cd-burning on 9.1

2003-05-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Tuesday 27 May 2003 05:29 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:

I'd just like to mention something, concerning this thread, from my own 
personal experience. 

I switched from a SCSI card with DVD and CDRW to an all IDE DVD and CDRW 
setup.

IMHO, SCSI wins...hands down. (except for price and taking up an IRQ/PCI 
slot).

Let me explain.

Using SCSI, I never saw but very litte overhead. Burning a CD with the Plextor 
48/24/48A takes nearly 100% of CPU time. Sometimes, it even affects mouse 
cursor movement (read jerky).

DVD playback was much smoother on the SCSI DVD than on the Toshiba IDE. I do 
have DMA enable for both IDE drives. 

I do have 80 conductor cables too.

BTW, I replaced both SCSI drives with the same brand names, i.e., Plextor and 
Toshiba.

 My hardware is good - 512 megs of Corsair DDR Ram, AMD XP2100, Soyo Dragon 
MB.

Tom, can you or anyone else offer suggestions as to how to get my IDE drives 
up to the level I'm used to SCSI? (its really during burning or duping that 
one really notes the difference).

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Re: [newbie] Xmms

2003-05-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 02:22 pm, Daniel Guidara wrote:
 There seems to be a problem with my xmms player.

 I try add a song and it wont let me, it doesn't tell me if theres an
 error either. Any suggestions to what the problem could be?

 Thanks for your time.

Did you try starting XMMS from a shell to see if it gives any error messages 
there?

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Re: [newbie] Creating archive

2003-05-29 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday May 28 2003 08:33 am, Joe Hill wrote:
 On Wed, 28 May 2003 19:10:42 +1000

 _nasturtium [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  But not all Windows computers can read them (WinZip can't).

 we'll use bz2 for l archives just to fsck with them! mua
 ha ha ha h...

.rar is pretty good, most Windoze machines can work with it. I 
believe WinZip can. It's proprietary tho. I don't use it to make 
archives, but I'd be lost without unrar used with File Roller when 
it comes to d/l'g rar's in many parts from binary newsgroups.  
There's an unrar rpm for Mandrake available from PLF, 
unrar-3.20-0.beta2.1plf   I think archiver can use unrar too,I just 
prefer File Roller for this task.
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Re: [newbie] Creating archive

2003-05-29 Thread Joe Hill
On Wed, 28 May 2003 09:32:26 -0500
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday May 28 2003 08:33 am, Joe Hill wrote:
  On Wed, 28 May 2003 19:10:42 +1000
 
  _nasturtium [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   But not all Windows computers can read them (WinZip can't).
 
  we'll use bz2 for l archives just to fsck with them! mua
  ha ha ha h...
 
 .rar is pretty good, most Windoze machines can work with it. I 
 believe WinZip can. It's proprietary tho. I don't use it to make 
 archives, but I'd be lost without unrar used with File Roller when 
 it comes to d/l'g rar's in many parts from binary newsgroups.  
 There's an unrar rpm for Mandrake available from PLF, 
 unrar-3.20-0.beta2.1plf   I think archiver can use unrar too,I just 
 prefer File Roller for this task.

If you use ROX filer and the Archive app, it has built-in support for
*un-rar*, but it will not create. :)

heh, I'm always pushin my ROX and my Pekwm... somebody STOP meh
 
 
 


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Re: [newbie] Xmms

2003-05-29 Thread Daniel Guidara
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 22:22, Joe Hill wrote:
 On 28 May 2003 22:22:12 +0800
 Daniel Guidara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I try add a song and it wont let me, it doesn't tell me if theres an
  error either. Any suggestions to what the problem could be?
 
 what's the file extension? if it doesn't recognize the filetype, it
 behaves like that. rather stupid not to at least give an error, IMO.
 
 but then i am no coder.

The file type is .mp3. I bring up load file to put a song in the play
list ddbl click on the song and the load window goes away.


Is there away to check if some sorta error came up under the logs.


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[newbie] Help!!!!!

2003-05-29 Thread Marco Flumino
Dear me, I have sent E-Mail's to nearly all the Mandrake helps and support 
but no one aswer me back!!!
No wonder many people use (even if their software is bugged) Microsoft 
software, in a way or another the get an aswer!!

Please help me, I am a Windows user, but I am trying to learn Linux and I 
was looking to find out how I can find the serial number for my Linux 
Madrake 9.0, what I got is the download version and I would like to register 
it with Mandrake can you help?

Yours FAITHFULLY,

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Re: [newbie] Xmms

2003-05-29 Thread Joe Hill
On 28 May 2003 22:39:05 +0800
Daniel Guidara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there away to check if some sorta error came up under the logs.

just follow Ronald's suggestion.

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Re: [newbie] Help!!!!!

2003-05-29 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Tue, 27 May 2003 13:20:10 +
Marco Flumino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 looking to find out how I can find the serial number for my Linux 
 Madrake 9.0, what I got is the download version

There is no serial # for the dl edition

Serial #s only come with purchased box sets 


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Re: [newbie] Xmms

2003-05-29 Thread Paul
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 16:39, Daniel Guidara wrote:

 The file type is .mp3. I bring up load file to put a song in the play
 list ddbl click on the song and the load window goes away.
 
 
 Is there away to check if some sorta error came up under the logs.

Open an xterm, run xmms from the CLI and see what happens in the xterm
(output messages from xmms) when you add the song.
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[newbie] default wm for vnc

2003-05-29 Thread Joe Hill
I run TightVNC to load a desktop on my server on occasion, and
originally I set the default desktop to flux (yuk). then I installed
pekwm, altered the .xinitrc, restarted the vncserver, and confirmed that
the xsession script for vncserver points to the .xinitrc, yet it still
loads fluxbox.

WTF?

no use a different program suggestions, bitte.

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Re: [newbie] *Fast* file contents search tool?

2003-05-29 Thread eric huff
  Hmm  For some reason the 'Find' facility does not work on my Rox. When
  I select 'Find' the cursor changes to a cross and nothing happens.

 That cross is confusing, but it's asking you which directory you want to
 search in. Then it will prompt you for every subdirectory unless you tic
 Quiet. I'm not sure if it uses the database or not. It probably does a
 `find` rather than `locate`.

To avoid the cross, you can select the directory you want to search in 
first.  That cross gets me into trouble sometimes...

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Re: Re[4]: [newbie] Oops - what happened?

2003-05-29 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday May 27 2003 10:43 pm, rikona wrote:
 Hello Dennis,

 Tuesday, May 27, 2003, 7:36:50 PM, you wrote:

 DM I'm not sure where to look, I tried a couple of man pages and
 no DM luck.  Try a google search on linux keyboard shortcuts  or
 DM variations thereof.

 I rummaged around a bit, but couldn't find a very complete list.
 On one page there was a reference to 'many more' shortcuts but no
 pointer to where. :-)

  Google raising skinny elephants is utterly boring  :)

   But that's a last resort option(s) for shutting down safely when 
the system in borked.  As was already suggested, most of the time 
all that's needed is to logout of X, and then relog in.  If this 
can't be done by your normal means (clicking on logout), then 
Ctrl+Alt+Backspace will kill the X server, or halt or reboot the 
system from there.  I've never needed to use Alt+SysRqr+s-e-i-u-b, 
but it's a good thing to look up the process and remember that 
goofy phrase ;)
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Re: [newbie] cd-burning on 9.1

2003-05-29 Thread eric huff
  If you downloaded an ISO-image (e.g. a linux distribution) you have
  to copy that big file (extension should be .iso) first to an
  image-directory of X-CD-Roast. You specify these directories in
  Setup at the HD Settings tab. These are the places where
  X-CD-Roast will look for audio (.wav) or data tracks.
  Now you enter the Create CD menu and you will see your image-file
  displayed nicely in the Image-Information window. Go to Write
  Tracks - click on Layout tracks tab, add your image-file, click
  on Accept track layout and finally a click at Write tracks will
  write that image perfectly to your CD-R/RW.
 
 I think that the problem was that I was trying to burn from an image
 stored in another data directory.  I guess it's not much of a problem
 to temporarily copy such an image to the required directory - just
 didn't realise what was causing the blockage g

Or couldn't you just add that directory to list of directories in 
X-CD-Roast?  If you were about to copy several isos, you may not have the 
space for both copies. (i have a computer here with a smallish hard 
drive...)

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Re: [newbie] Oops - what happened?

2003-05-29 Thread Charlie
quoting rikona's missive of Tuesday 27 May 2003 08:02 pm:
 Hello Dennis,

 Tuesday, May 27, 2003, 6:36:31 PM, you wrote:

 DM I'm not sure what happened but you can try hittine ctl-alt-F6 and
 DM that should take you to a console screen where you can type
 DM reboot. There is probably a  more elegant way to recover, so
 DM anyone who knows jump right in here. HTH

 Thank you [recovering from typical newbie panic] :-))

 Elegant or not, it worked OK. It rebooted to the previous state, not
 where I was at the 'oops'. Lost some work, I guess, but no disaster.

Hi;

Here's one brief 'n' basic quickie type reference to keyboard shortcuts.

http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/shortcuts.html

The Linux Newbie Administrator's Guide offers more under the 5.1 heading. Just 
scroll down from the linked page;

http://linux-newbie.sunsite.dk/lnag_commands.html

and a brief list from Red Hat docs:

http://linuxwww.epfl.ch/Doc/rh-9/rhl-gsg-en-9/keyboard-shortcuts.html

That should get you started; but if you really want to suffer information 
overload, open a terminal su (type su then type your root password) then type

urpmi rute

and hit enter. If you have a contrib source set up you'll get a _very_ 
complete documentation project installed, but bring a lunch when you click 
the new Howtos English (or whatever installed your language is) in the 
documentation menu. You'll be there a *lonnng time.* g

Have fun.

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Re: [newbie] default wm for vnc

2003-05-29 Thread Paul
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 16:51, Joe Hill wrote:
 I run TightVNC to load a desktop on my server on occasion, and
 originally I set the default desktop to flux (yuk). then I installed
 pekwm, altered the .xinitrc, restarted the vncserver, and confirmed that
 the xsession script for vncserver points to the .xinitrc, yet it still
 loads fluxbox.

Do you start up with runlevel 3? This uses .xinitrc afaik. Runlevel 5
bypasses that one if I am not mistaken.

 WTF?
 
 no use a different program suggestions, bitte.
 
 das ist nicht ich bin vollen!

Keine Bange, ich werde dich nicht fressen!
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Re: [newbie] Checking for new Hardware

2003-05-29 Thread eric huff
 Are you sure it's spending a long time checking for new hardware or the
 step that follows (and just hasn't displayed the text of that step,
 yet)?

This is a good point:  Which is it?
I would think that since the message is Checking... it is printing the 
message first, then doing the job.
That's how i program messages...

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Re: [newbie] cd-burning on 9.1

2003-05-29 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 28 May 2003 08:02:59 -0700
eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Or couldn't you just add that directory to list of directories in 
 X-CD-Roast?  If you were about to copy several isos, you may not have
 the space for both copies. (i have a computer here with a smallish
 hard drive...)

Yes.
You can add/delete as many directories to the list as you wish.


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Re: [newbie] default wm for vnc

2003-05-29 Thread Joe Hill
On 28 May 2003 17:06:42 +0200
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Do you start up with runlevel 3? This uses .xinitrc afaik. Runlevel 5
 bypasses that one if I am not mistaken.

only 3, it's a p166 w/ 8MB RAM, so a gui boot would *kill* it LOL.

  WTF?
  
  no use a different program suggestions, bitte.
  
  das ist nicht ich bin vollen!
 
 Keine Bange, ich werde dich nicht fressen!

heh, you overestimate my German, I know less than JFK did :D

i'm pretty sure you're saying: see? I did not say that! or
thereabouts...but only by deduction.

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Re: [newbie] default wm for vnc

2003-05-29 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 3:51 pm, Joe Hill wrote:
 I run TightVNC to load a desktop on my server on occasion, and
 originally I set the default desktop to flux (yuk). then I installed
 pekwm, altered the .xinitrc, restarted the vncserver, and confirmed that
 the xsession script for vncserver points to the .xinitrc, yet it still
 loads fluxbox.

 WTF?

 no use a different program suggestions, bitte.

 das ist nicht ich bin vollen!

Edit ~/.vnc/xstartup  to include the command which starts your Window manager. 
Do not forget to make it executable

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Re: [newbie] Xmms

2003-05-29 Thread Daniel Guidara
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 18:26, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 May 2003 02:22 pm, Daniel Guidara wrote:
  There seems to be a problem with my xmms player.
 
  I try add a song and it wont let me, it doesn't tell me if theres an
  error either. Any suggestions to what the problem could be?
 
  Thanks for your time.
 
 Did you try starting XMMS from a shell to see if it gives any error messages 
 there?

Ive run xmms from a shell and nothing is printed to screen.

Im using Mandrake 9.1 on a Mac. Ive just found out that my Xmms hasn't
found any audio plugins or output plugins. I used mpg123 to find out if
my sound card was working and it is. So that must mean the sound drivers
are running. Im wondering how i should get the plugins required.

Ive also noticed on my brother machine which is running debian on an
intel machine that in his Audio I/O Plugins he has:

Input Plugin
MPEG Layer 1/2/3 Player 1.2.7 

Output Plugin
OSS Driver 1.2.7

I take it I will need something like this in my setup aswell. If you
could tell me how I could do this, the help would be greatly
appericated.

-Regards

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Re: [newbie] testing mozilla mail for HTML.

2003-05-29 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday May 28 2003 12:40 am, Franki wrote:
 Just checking if mozilla mail is sending in txt of html...

 ignore pls.

Content-type: multipart/mixed;
  boundary=--=_1054100310-881-2004

 So no, it's not plain text.  Suggestion tho, send your email to 
test to yourself, instead of the list. You'll be able to check the 
results a lot quicker ;)  Usually within seconds.
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Re: [newbie] OT: newbies and off-topic stuff

2003-05-29 Thread eric huff
  Did you try a search on mail?  :)  You get a hit for every page!

 Not quite true - I tried it.

Ok, i was exaggerating :)

  But when you think that every page that
 references a subscribed member contains a mail address, as well as
 every topic that has any reference to it (and there are many), you
 would end up with a long list. 

Yeah, i was just giving an example similar to Lucy-Ann's troubles.  

 I can only suggest that if you are
 seriously looking for anything on mail you would have to skim the
 list and discount personal pages.
 If you use tabbed browsing it
 shouldn't be too much of a pain to find what you want.

I'm one of those that has trouble finding the odd file out of a big list, 
so it might be hard for me.

But you are right, i'm picking on a silly instance: mail happens to be an 
unfortunate topic to search for. Originally, i used it because i knew one 
existed (famous joe's mailfilter).

 Incidentally, I hadn't noticed before that low down on the WebHome
 page there is a quick search box which searches the whole site -
 better than the route I suggested before.

That's cool.  hadn't noticed that.Quick search is what i'll need most of 
the time.

The short route to the advanced search is the search link at the top next 
to the go button.

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Re: [newbie] Can't get a GUI boot

2003-05-29 Thread John Drouhard
On Wed, 28 May 2003 11:37:19 +0200
MARTIN HENDRIK RAD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This makes me think: I've gone through a lot of WM's (but not pekwm) and
 I've more or less settled on Blackbox as the best for me. But I would like
 to set up a kind of launchbar for a few apps on the desktop to avoid
 rummaging through the menu's. Or even a kind of command line box, maybe
 one that remembers recent commands so you can select from a drop-down box. 
 
 Regards,
 Hendrik Martin

This is what ROX-Filer is for! I use fluxbox, which I personally think
is slightly better than Blackbox, but that's just personal preference. I
have a bar on the left side of my screen which lets me put launcher
applications on. Here is how to do it: just type urpmi rox rox-system
rox-utils, and install the necessary packages. Then, to put a launcher
bar on the left side of the screen, type rox -l Default. for the right
side - rox -r Default.

Hope that helps!

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Re: [newbie] Xmms

2003-05-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 03:23 pm, Daniel Guidara wrote:

 Ive run xmms from a shell and nothing is printed to screen.

 Im using Mandrake 9.1 on a Mac. Ive just found out that my Xmms hasn't
 found any audio plugins or output plugins. I used mpg123 to find out if
 my sound card was working and it is. So that must mean the sound drivers
 are running. Im wondering how i should get the plugins required.

 Ive also noticed on my brother machine which is running debian on an
 intel machine that in his Audio I/O Plugins he has:

 Input Plugin
 MPEG Layer 1/2/3 Player 1.2.7

 Output Plugin
 OSS Driver 1.2.7

 I take it I will need something like this in my setup aswell. If you
 could tell me how I could do this, the help would be greatly
 appericated.

 -Regards

 Daniel

Open up XMMS, right-click on the main screen, it will pop up a dialog box. 
Pick Options - preferences. There you should see tabs for using, 
configuring, changing your plugins. This should help you see whats going on 
and what you can do...

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Re: [newbie] testing mozilla mail for HTML.

2003-05-29 Thread Charlie
quoting Franki's missive of Tuesday 27 May 2003 11:40 pm:
 Just checking if mozilla mail is sending in txt of html...

 ignore pls.


 rgds


 Franki

Hi Frank;

This one is plain text. Whatever you did it worked. g

I suppose for anyone else that wants to use Mozilla Mail for their mail 
client;

open the mozilla address book; click on the address for the mailing list or 
recipient you want, click Properties then set the Prefers to receive mail 
in.. to plain text for these lists, or for individuals you aren't sure of, 
and HTML for those you know want their messages that way. You can also select 
to send both plain text and HTML but that's a bit large for most. More than 
double the bandwidth per message and useless in most contexts AFAICS.

As far as I know this will work in the Windows version as well, but I have no 
knowledge whether it works with A.O.(Hel)L. or other ISPs or not.

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Re: [newbie] default wm for vnc

2003-05-29 Thread Paul
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 17:11, Joe Hill wrote:
  Do you start up with runlevel 3? This uses .xinitrc afaik. Runlevel 5
  bypasses that one if I am not mistaken.
 
 only 3, it's a p166 w/ 8MB RAM, so a gui boot would *kill* it LOL.

Okay, that is clear!  :-)
Weird that flux is loaded even though you tell it differently. My
knowledge ends here...

  Keine Bange, ich werde dich nicht fressen!
 
 heh, you overestimate my German, I know less than JFK did :D
 
 i'm pretty sure you're saying: see? I did not say that! or
 thereabouts...but only by deduction.

It means don't worry, I won't eat you.

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Re: [newbie] Xmms

2003-05-29 Thread Daniel Guidara
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 19:34, Ronald J. Hall wrote:

 Open up XMMS, right-click on the main screen, it will pop up a dialog box. 
 Pick Options - preferences. There you should see tabs for using, 
 configuring, changing your plugins. This should help you see whats going on 
 and what you can do...

Sorry maybe you have misunderstood me, I have done thing and there is
nothing listed under there. Where do I get the plugins needed and how
will they be installed.

-Regards

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Re: [newbie] Creating archive

2003-05-29 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday May 28 2003 09:32 am, Joe Hill wrote:
  .rar is pretty good, most Windoze machines can work with
  it. I believe WinZip can. It's proprietary tho. I don't use it
  to make archives, but I'd be lost without unrar used with File
  Roller when it comes to d/l'g rar's in many parts from binary
  newsgroups. There's an unrar rpm for Mandrake available from
  PLF,
  unrar-3.20-0.beta2.1plf   I think archiver can use unrar too,I
  just prefer File Roller for this task.

 If you use ROX filer and the Archive app, it has built-in support
 for *un-rar*, but it will not create. :)

 heh, I'm always pushin my ROX and my Pekwm... somebody STOP
 meh

  Well, I had tried that sometime ago, and it failed on large 
files, eg, 80+ rar.parts, 700mb movie. But unrar from PLF used with 
File Roller always seems to be able to assemble the movie. So I've 
stuck with it. Biggest challenge left is to find _all_ the parts ;)
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Re: [newbie] Can't get a GUI boot

2003-05-29 Thread Joe Hill
On Wed, 28 May 2003 10:14:45 +
John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is what ROX-Filer is for! I use fluxbox, which I personally think
 is slightly better than Blackbox, but that's just personal preference.
 I have a bar on the left side of my screen which lets me put launcher
 applications on. Here is how to do it: just type urpmi rox rox-system
 rox-utils, and install the necessary packages. Then, to put a
 launcher bar on the left side of the screen, type rox -l Default.
 for the right side - rox -r Default.

You go my ROX brother!

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Re: [newbie] default wm for vnc

2003-05-29 Thread Joe Hill
On Wed, 28 May 2003 16:19:05 +0100
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Edit ~/.vnc/xstartup  to include the command which starts your Window
 manager. 
 
sorry, right, I should have said xstartup, not xsession...duh

anyway, I pointed the ~/.vnc/xstartup to pekwm directly, and it worked!

h, I'm still curious as to why the default way ie. xstartup
pointing to .xinitrc wasn't working...

Do not forget to make it executable

yep, both are and were.

anyway, thanks for the help guys! love this place...:)

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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: What if SCO is right?

2003-05-29 Thread William Brown
On Wednesday 21 May 2003 04:28 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-05-22 at 10:57, William Brown wrote:
  On Sunday 18 May 2003 06:49 pm, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
   On Monday 19 May 2003 00:37, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
And now for something completely different!
   
http://www.internetwk.com/breakingNews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=10
    66
  
   http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2134724,00.html :)
  
   -Frans (who hasn't read all earlier mail about the SCO thing)
 
  Maybe I'm lost at sea, again, but what does this have to do with the open
  source Linux created by Linus Torvald?

 Here's everything in a nutshell:

 * SCO is once again loosing heaps of biz and money - and can't swim.
 They want to claim that there's proprietary code in linux and went after
 the biggest dog - IBM - go claim damages. IBM ain't even turned around
 to see what's nipping at it's heels yet. Microsoft, who despises Open
 Source Software and linux (which is OSS) had done the dirty dance with
 SCO years ago and still have ties to SCO - and so, bought up $1 billion
 worth of SCO license. If Microsoft HAS the license, it can do three
 things - 1.) claim even more illegality towards OSS and linux and help
 to force it off the corporate plate - OR - make sure that Windows and
 linux don't play happy together by creating more proprietary ways of
 dealing with information dispersal (documents, media and the likes) so
 that linux doesn't have a chance to make use of such media thusly making
 linux even more difficult for the public to deal with (and corporations)
 - OR - they're going to start creating bits'n'bobs themselves WITH the
 SCO license (they already create unix based services). Funny that,
 though, a Senator from Washington is on a caucus that's aim is
 supposedly to Stop IP piracy and software piracy - but in the true
 wording they're attacking OSS and linux outright and want to make it
 literally illegal...

 Does that make more sense now? I might have mucked some stuff up in
 there, but that's pretty much how I tend to see it...

Thanks.  Been reading all the supplied links.  The Open Source page gives a 
clearer light.  M$ is just making a power play and using SCO as a front.  
Unfortunately legalism and PR are the tools of the deep pockets.  All the 
more reason to support Mandrake and others.  I hope ML survives so that we 
all have an opportunity to escape M$ draconian practices.
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Re: [newbie] Checking for new Hardware

2003-05-29 Thread John Richard Smith
eric huff wrote:

Are you sure it's spending a long time checking for new hardware or the
step that follows (and just hasn't displayed the text of that step,
yet)?
   

This is a good point:  Which is it?
I would think that since the message is Checking... it is printing the 
message first, then doing the job.
That's how i program messages...

 

Well I cannot be certain, because I'm not the programmer but it 
certainly feels like it's searching for ,or having trouble recinciling a 
hardware issue, but it always completes, eventually.

John

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Re: [newbie] Help!!!!!

2003-05-29 Thread John Richard Smith
Marco Flumino wrote:

Dear me, I have sent E-Mail's to nearly all the Mandrake helps and 
support but no one aswer me back!!!
No wonder many people use (even if their software is bugged) Microsoft 
software, in a way or another the get an aswer!!

Please help me, I am a Windows user, but I am trying to learn Linux 
and I was looking to find out how I can find the serial number for my 
Linux Madrake 9.0, what I got is the download version and I would like 
to register it with Mandrake can you help?

Yours FAITHFULLY,

Marco Flumino

No serial number required , Marco, just install it.

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Re: [newbie] Checking for new Hardware

2003-05-29 Thread John Richard Smith
Joeb wrote:

On Wed, 28 May 2003 12:22:12 +0100
John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Does anyone else find that the bootup of M9.1 spends a long time
checking for new hardware every time.

John

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Are you sure it's spending a long time checking for new hardware or 
the step that follows (and just hasn't displayed the text of that step, 
yet)?

I don't think so, it seems to finish smartly after that., but,

 Also, per chance, do you have an empty memory card reader attached? 
If so, it might be timing out waiting for the virtual drive to come 
active (which it will never do, because it's empty).  If so, try putting 
a card in it or unplugging it from the USB port and see if that speeds 
things up.

I do have a smartcard reader attatched to a usb port and I cann't always 
be having a card in it, just to speed things u, and in any case it made 
no difference putting a card in the reader.

Tom, I can turn it off in MCC , but isn't that a bit anti-deluvian ?

John

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Re: [newbie] testing mozilla mail for HTML.

2003-05-29 Thread g


Charlie wrote:

but I have no 
knowledge whether it works with A.O.(Hel)L. or other ISPs or not.
you are correct. ability to set 'text/plain' has been remove from aol email.
it was there up thru 6.0. 7.0, do not know. 8.0 it is removed.
seems aol wants to support bandwidth hogs.

but, as said before, there are other browsers to use on aol.



peace out.

tc,hago.

g
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  save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage.
  send email:  text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments.
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Re: [newbie] testing mozilla mail for HTML.

2003-05-29 Thread g


Tom Brinkman wrote:

Content-type: multipart/mixed;

So no, it's not plain text.  Suggestion tho, send your email to 
test to yourself, instead of the list. You'll be able to check the 
results a lot quicker ;)  Usually within seconds.
'content-type: multipart/mixed;' in header is only to designate multi parts,
as opposed to single.
because most email thru mandrake's lists have a 'want to buy', 'message.footer',
'multipart/mixed;' will appear in header when body is 'text/plain'.
for sure, your are right on, and correct with your suggestion.



peace out.

tc,hago.

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[newbie] securing postfix

2003-05-29 Thread dontodd
Is there anything that one needs to do to secure postfix out-of-the-box
configuration in 9.1? I need to allow relaying to run mailing lists, but
I don't want to become a relay for spammers.

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] Xmms

2003-05-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 03:45 pm, Daniel Guidara wrote:

 Sorry maybe you have misunderstood me, I have done thing and there is
 nothing listed under there. Where do I get the plugins needed and how
 will they be installed.

 -Regards

 Daniel

If I do understand you correctly Daniel, then you are saying that you have 
neither Alsa or OSS installed? If not, thats odd.

You should be able to install these from the Mandrake Control Center - 
Software Management - Install Software (use search to find OSS or Alsa)

Here, you can also do a search on xmms to see what other plugins are 
available.

Hope this helps! :-)

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Re: [newbie] Checking for new Hardware

2003-05-29 Thread g


John Richard Smith wrote:

Well I cannot be certain, because I'm not the programmer but it 
press 'i' during boot, then note timing of displays after pressing enter.

that is if you really want to know.



peace out.

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Re: [newbie] gFTP

2003-05-29 Thread RichardA
On Wed, 28 May 2003 14:20:46 +
Toran Korshnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gftp is not easy to configure, but it goes as follows.
 Connect to the FreeBSD-ftpserver.
 You will see how the FreeBSDserver is filled in.
 Change this settings towards your own settings.
 Connect now.
 Bookmark your settings.
 Done.
 Each time you want to go to your website use the bookmark.
 
 Toran
 
 

The FreeBSD server in the bookmarks works, but it only fills in the kind
of values I was using anyway. After all, Host, Port, User and Password
are hard to misunderstand.

The FreeBSD settings use 'anonymous' and my email address. Even when I
put the correct username and password in for my site, the log shows it
connects as 'anonymous' and my email address too, then waits 30 seconds
before doing the same thing again.

I suppose if a simple graphical ftp client is *this* hard to use, it's
broken.

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Re: [newbie] gFTP

2003-05-29 Thread RichardA
On Wed, 28 May 2003 14:21:52 +
Toran Korshnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Personally I advise to use kBear.
 
 Toran

And load all those KDE libraries? On a 128MB Celeron 300? No thanks!

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[newbie] Lost Evolution Again

2003-05-29 Thread Aron smith
This is the second time, I updated with Red carpet when it upgraded 
evolution  from 1.1 to 1.2 it erased 1.1 then 1.2 failed due to failed 
dependencies if  I, could figure a way to get a spellcheck in mozilla 
messenger it would not be a problem. But I do love evolution. 


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Re: [newbie] Help!!!!!

2003-05-29 Thread Joe Hill
On Wed, 28 May 2003 17:53:48 +0100
John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 No serial number required , Marco, just install it.

This is what shocks so many Windows users when I start preaching about
Linux. waddaya mean it's free? the OS, all the software, everything?!

Welcome Marco, get that installed and we'll see ya again soon I hope.

Just don't use KDE! 

ROFL, just kidding...
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RE: [newbie] Help!!!!!

2003-05-29 Thread walt


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Hill
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Just don't use KDE! 

ROFL, just kidding...
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I know you are just kidding about KDE lol but if we want to get windows
users to try linux, KDE is the closest looking thing to use. I do think they
should have a serial number though..maybe twice as long as a winxp one..

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Re: [newbie] Surprized At Updates

2003-05-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 1:24 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 May 2003 08:07 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Thanks for adding that.  To further clarify, the urpmi.setup config
 app was created to be a gui alternative to adding sources at the
 command line.  Some people like the cli, others like the gui.

I think the cli is often attractive once some confidence is gained, 
but the problem is that you have to know exactly what is required to 
achieve the desired end.  At the early stages, the gui can often give 
you more idea of what you need to do.  Still, each to his own g

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Re: [newbie] cd-burning on 9.1

2003-05-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 4:02 pm, eric huff wrote:
 
  I think that the problem was that I was trying to burn from an
  image stored in another data directory.  I guess it's not much of
  a problem to temporarily copy such an image to the required
  directory - just didn't realise what was causing the blockage g

 Or couldn't you just add that directory to list of directories in
 X-CD-Roast?  If you were about to copy several isos, you may not
 have the space for both copies. (i have a computer here with a
 smallish hard drive...)

I don't know whether you could or not, but it's not a problem.  It's 
just that I had on hdd an image that I had previously burned, and I 
wanted to burn another copy.  I forgot to move it to where XCDRoast 
would be looking.  That's all.

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Re: [newbie] Checking for new Hardware

2003-05-29 Thread Michael Adams
On Wed, 28 May 2003 05:53:27 -0700
Myers, Dennis R NWO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Richard Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:22 AM
 To: NEWBIE 1
 Subject: [newbie] Checking for new Hardware
 
 
 Does anyone else find that the bootup of M9.1 spends a long time 
 checking for new hardware every time.
 
 John
 

If you want to stop it (from memory).
# cd /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/
# mv XXXkudzu ~XXXkudzu

The files in this dir are all run at init5 startup. The are run in numerical order, 1 
- 99. The S prefix means it is a service (assumption). Not sure what the K prefix 
means other than they are setup executables which run then exit having finished their 
task.

This is where so much of the personal configurability of Linux exists. You can chop 
and change these dirs to suit yourself. I have a dialup so i delete some services from 
here and start them from /etc/ppp/ip-up.local instead. That way they are only running 
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[newbie] Suggestions for a log analyzer. (?)

2003-05-29 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

I'm trying to find something that's more sophisticated than the log
search tool in Drakconf.  Does anyone have ideas about a decent and well
performing log analyzer.  Maybe even something that may already be in
the distro or packaged on Mandrakeclub...basically something that
someone has had good personal experience with and that they like alot. 
Any ideas. ?


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RE: [newbie] Help!!!!!

2003-05-29 Thread Paul
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 21:10, walt wrote:
 -Original Message-

 I know you are just kidding about KDE lol but if we want to get windows
 users to try linux, KDE is the closest looking thing to use. I do think they
 should have a serial number though..maybe twice as long as a winxp one..

I think IceWM comes pretty close also in looks. And that is quite a tad
faster than KDE.  ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Suggestions for a log analyzer. (?)

2003-05-29 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 8:47 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 I'm trying to find something that's more sophisticated than the log
 search tool in Drakconf.  Does anyone have ideas about a decent and well
 performing log analyzer.  Maybe even something that may already be in
 the distro or packaged on Mandrakeclub...basically something that
 someone has had good personal experience with and that they like alot.
 Any ideas. ?


 --LX

Have you tried using the log analysis built into msec?
Just enter an email address in MandrakeControlCentreSecurityDrakSec and tick 
the box for security alerts.
You will get a daily email of suspicious activity.

The other thing I use is fwlogwatch (in contrib)  which sends you emails on 
firewall hits.

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Re: [newbie] default wm for vnc

2003-05-29 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 10:51 am, Joe Hill wrote:
 I run TightVNC to load a desktop on my server on occasion, and
 originally I set the default desktop to flux (yuk). then I installed
 pekwm, altered the .xinitrc, restarted the vncserver, and confirmed that
 the xsession script for vncserver points to the .xinitrc, yet it still
 loads fluxbox.

 WTF?

 no use a different program suggestions, bitte.

 das ist nicht ich bin vollen!

try creating a .desktop file in the users home directory with the following in 
it

DESKTOP=KDE
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[newbie] Boy am I dumb

2003-05-29 Thread Aron Smith
Got to playing around with the cli typed in evolution it asked me for
permission to upgrade ,and bingo (and didn't lose a thing.
(just gotta use the command line more.
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Re: [newbie] Suggestions for a log analyzer. (?)

2003-05-29 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 16:02, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 May 2003 8:47 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
  I'm trying to find something that's more sophisticated than the log
  search tool in Drakconf.  Does anyone have ideas about a decent and well
  performing log analyzer.  Maybe even something that may already be in
  the distro or packaged on Mandrakeclub...basically something that
  someone has had good personal experience with and that they like alot.
  Any ideas. ?
 
 
  --LX
 
 Have you tried using the log analysis built into msec?
 Just enter an email address in MandrakeControlCentreSecurityDrakSec and tick 
 the box for security alerts.
 You will get a daily email of suspicious activity.
 
 The other thing I use is fwlogwatch (in contrib)  which sends you emails on 
 firewall hits.
 
 derek

Well..like I said, I'm curious about something other than what's
available in Drakconf, and that's what you are referring to.  Perhaps
something that allows searches of a more sophisticated and sysadmin
targeted nature.

--LX

P.S.  Hmmm. Looks like I sent this to newbie instead of expert, like I
intended.  Sorry about that.

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Re: [newbie] Surprized At Updates

2003-05-29 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 09:30 am, Joe Hill wrote:
 On Wed, 28 May 2003 07:53:41 -0400

 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, if you knew about it, why did you make like it did not exist?
 
  If you wanted to know how to use it, ask how to use it.

 aaasy...take a dep cleansing breath, stretch your legs, think
 about a sunny meadow...then smoke a bg fat...

Sorry if that came out wrong.  I did not think I was being disrespectful when 
I posted, but I think it is a legitimate question for the OP.  Why did you 
say you wish a tool exists, and then when someone points out it does exist 
you say you knew about it but didn't know how to use it?

The only answer I can think of is that OP knew about urpmi but did not fully 
understand its capabilities, which would be a very legitimate answer.
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Re: [newbie] default wm for vnc

2003-05-29 Thread Joe Hill
On Wed, 28 May 2003 16:07:58 -0400
Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 DESKTOP=KDE

On a P166 with 80MB of RAM?!

are you quite mad sir!?

LOL, but in other news, pekwm runs 5 times faster than fluxbox in a vnc
window, from said P166.

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Re: [newbie] Help!!!!!

2003-05-29 Thread Lanman
Marco; The download version of Mandrake linux does not have any serial numbers. You 
cannot register a download version.

Lanman


Marco Flumino wrote:

 Dear me, I have sent E-Mail's to nearly all the Mandrake helps and
 support but no one aswer me back!!!
 No wonder many people use (even if their software is bugged) Microsoft
 software, in a way or another the get an aswer!!

 Please help me, I am a Windows user, but I am trying to learn Linux
 and I was looking to find out how I can find the serial number for my
 Linux Madrake 9.0, what I got is the download version and I would like
 to register it with Mandrake can you help?

 Yours FAITHFULLY,

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[newbie] motherboard recommendations

2003-05-29 Thread John Drouhard
I was considering upgrading my computer with a new motherboard and
processor. I was highly considering the Asus A7N8X which uses the
nforce2 chip set. It does not, however, have on-board video, so i was
gonna get a radeon 9500 pro and use the FireGL drivers. Does anyone know
if this motherboard with an Athlon XP 2100+ is compatible with Linux? I
think it may need a patched kernel with the nforce2 drivers, but I'm not
completely sure. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!!

- John Drouhard

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Re: [newbie] cd-burning on 9.1

2003-05-29 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday May 28 2003 05:26 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 BTW, I replaced both SCSI drives with the same brand names, i.e.,
 Plextor and Toshiba.

  My hardware is good - 512 megs of Corsair DDR Ram, AMD XP2100,
 Soyo Dragon MB.

 Tom, can you or anyone else offer suggestions as to how to get my
 IDE drives up to the level I'm used to SCSI? (its really during
 burning or duping that one really notes the difference).

   Not really. I have no hands on scsi experience. As to IDE CD 
drives, about the only optimization is to enable DMA. You can do 
this after installin 'hdparm' by editing /etc/sysconfig/harddisks
and uncommenting,  # USE_DMA=1  (remove the hash mark).  Then cp 
'harddisks' to 'harddiskhd?' where ? equals the drive letter for 
each CD drive. Notice the last 's' was removed also. You'll need to 
be root.

All that might not be necessary tho, check first with
'hdparm -v /dev/hd?' that it doesn't already show 'using_dma' as 
=1 (on).  Bottom line is CD drives are notoriously slow, no matter 
the spin rate advertised. CD-RW's make better readers than plain 
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Re: [newbie] OT sorry

2003-05-29 Thread Richard Urwin
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 11:21 pm, Benjamin Jeeves wrote:
 Hi all

 I was drink a few beers and thinking about how bad the rail transport is in
 the UK it was on the news and it takes me two hours to get to uni and two
 hours back thats London for you.

 Now to the point is there a community like the open source one out there
 willing to hope any one who asks? or is it that the O/S is free and open
 that makes us all help each our out.

They are all over the place. The closest example is probably amateur radio, 
but there are many others. (model-making, illegal CB radio in the UK, 
computer clubs in the late 70s and early 80s) IMHO the common factor is 
self-training. If someone askes me how do I do X? I ask myself if I want to 
be bothered answering, I might jot down a few brief pointers. If he says I 
want to do X, I've read up on Y, but I'm confused about Z, I am much more 
likely to see them as a kindred spirit and want to go to some lengths to 
help.

The free bit is also an almost common factor though, in my experience. There 
is an exileration to being in total control of the environment that might aid 
the process. The sense that the answer is out there, and you can find it as 
easily as anyone. DECUS might be a valid counter-example.

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Re: [newbie] cd-burning on 9.1

2003-05-29 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday May 27 2003 06:02 pm, Technoslick wrote:
 What's wrong with your preferences as a starting point? Newbies
 don't have a lot of preferences. That's why they come here. For
 answers and to get some! :-)

 I'm not pushing you or anything. nudge Nope. nudge I wouldn't
 do that to you. more nudging But, nudge, nudge I would be
 remiss in not nudge making my point. You should write some
 stuff up. nudge, nudge I won't bring it up anymore. big push
 OK?

   Well, I appreciate your confidence, but I ain't buyin it. I got a 
lot of my preferences from learnin from others, there's already a 
great how-to, and many disdain CL burning anyhow. So I decline. 
Many others have similar, probly better ideas.
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[newbie] Kmatrix + image

2003-05-29 Thread Josenildo Marques
Here's a cool link provided by Stephen Kuhn.

http://www.desktop-linux.net/kmatrix.htm

The Read me text says it was compiled on M 9.0. I followed the instructions 
and it is working properly on M 9.1.

I hope you'll enjoy the image, made after a little bit of Gimp'ing.

JM


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Re: [newbie] Checking for new Hardware

2003-05-29 Thread Dennis Myers
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 07:53 am, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Richard Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:22 AM
 To: NEWBIE 1
 Subject: [newbie] Checking for new Hardware


 Does anyone else find that the bootup of M9.1 spends a long time
 checking for new hardware every time.

 John
My apologies to the list again,
Sorry about the other reply, it was from my windows work station and no matter 
how many times I switch it to text only, it reboots  with HTML mail enabled. 
I can not seem to remember from day to day to reset it.  Lord, I hate M$ 
crap.
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Re: [newbie] OT - MS to lose Munich?

2003-05-29 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 14:56, Ladislav Bodnar wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 May 2003 12:46, walt wrote:
  Now if sco gets its way, won't it be illegal for Munich to use
  linux???
 
 That's a very big IF!

I think that right now is one of the few times you're going to see this
type of a revolt against a software company - or against a software
mentality - SCO and Microsoft are feeling what IBM felt more than 10
years ago - history DOES repeat itself. IBM was way too big for it's
britches, and now, Microsoft is in that place; SCO won't have a
snowball's hope in Hell of doing much of anything with all the hot air
they've been blowing - besides, they literally cut their own throats;
remember they sold linux boxes just weeks ago...

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Re: [newbie] WM's in general

2003-05-29 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 15:05, MG wrote:
 On Tuesday 27 May 2003 07:44 pm, you wrote:
 
  I used Civileme's 'Xtart', too...for a while. Whether it's a matter of
  environment deficiencies or what...under different managers some
  programs won't run or come up properly. If I remember correctly,
  Blackbox won't allow me to exit, so I end up crashing it with
  CTR-ALT-BackSpace. Is there suppose to be some limitations
  within each of these due to environment differences from switching
  from one to the other? I love little applet, but the results have
  been frustrating at times.
 
  T
 
 Originally I wanted to explore most of the wm's easily and Xtart was 
 recommended. But I did not explore as much as I wanted too...  :-)
 In Blackbox if you right click desktop  session  windowmanagers  exit
  should get you out it. I am not sure why programs run on some and not on 
 others, but I am pretty green to most this anyways (but haven' a blast! 
 learning)
 
 mike

A lot of that could be due to library paths or system paths - if there's
an aberration in the system paths, library paths or what-have-you, it's
going to act flaky.

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Re: [newbie] motherboard recommendations

2003-05-29 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 12:53 pm, John Drouhard wrote:
 I was considering upgrading my computer with a new motherboard and
 processor. I was highly considering the Asus A7N8X which uses the
 nforce2 chip set. It does not, however, have on-board video, so i was
 gonna get a radeon 9500 pro and use the FireGL drivers. Does anyone know
 if this motherboard with an Athlon XP 2100+ is compatible with Linux? I
 think it may need a patched kernel with the nforce2 drivers, but I'm not
 completely sure. Any help would be appreciated.

Lot's of people have had problems with the ATI 9500 and higher cards with 
Linux.  Apparently the ATI provided drivers are not very good and native 
XFree support is weak still.  Also, many have had prob's with the combination 
of ATI vid card and nforce2 chipset.  As for smooth Linux support I would 
recommend at KT400 based board with an nVidia Vid card, or at least that's 
what I would buy.  If I was going to go with the nforce2 board anyway, I 
would probably get an nVidia Vid card to make it as compatible as possible. 

Lot's of KT400 boards run at 166fsb so they will support the barton core and 
Linux support is much better.  If you are going to run windows primarily and 
like a challenge, go with your original setup.

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Re: [newbie] motherboard recommendations

2003-05-29 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday May 28 2003 11:53 am, John Drouhard wrote:
 I was considering upgrading my computer with a new motherboard
 and processor. I was highly considering the Asus A7N8X which uses
 the nforce2 chip set. It does not, however, have on-board video,
 so i was gonna get a radeon 9500 pro and use the FireGL drivers.
 Does anyone know if this motherboard with an Athlon XP 2100+ is
 compatible with Linux? I think it may need a patched kernel with
 the nforce2 drivers, but I'm not completely sure. Any help would
 be appreciated.

   The nForce(2) chipsets are not well or completely supported by 
Linux kernel yet. Neither are Intel iwhatevers. VIA chipsets 
boards are best supported, mainly due to their popularity and 
cooperation with the Linux community. Their best are usually 
followed with an 'a', eg, kt133a, kt266a, kt333a, and kt400a ... 
the latter which outperforms the nforce2 chipset.

   nForce only derives (Windoze) rave reviews if perfectly matched, 
high quality DDR ram modules are used, and then only in few normal 
real world circunstances.  If you really want an nVidia chipset 
board, then lobby nVidia to break their license agreements and back 
room deals with Micro$oft, and help out the folks at kernel.org 
with some better cooperation.
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Re: [newbie] Boy am I dumb

2003-05-29 Thread Aron Smith
Just typed in evolution as root , then exited then typed in evolution
and it said that files had to be removed ,typed in yes and Evolution
came up running.(DIIKnow ) but it worked.
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 13:43, Yoel Krigsman wrote:
 What was the cli command to upgrade the evolution?
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 On 28 May 2003 06:13:19 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Got to playing around with the cli typed in evolution it asked me for
 permission to upgrade ,and bingo (and didn't lose a thing.
 (just gotta use the command line more.
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Re: [newbie] OT sorry

2003-05-29 Thread Aron Smith
A little bit of both. Everyone likes to help someone.
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 15:21, Benjamin Jeeves wrote:
 Hi all
 
 I was drink a few beers and thinking about how bad the rail transport is in 
 the UK it was on the news and it takes me two hours to get to uni and two 
 hours back thats London for you. 
 
 Now to the point is there a community like the open source one out there 
 willing to hope any one who asks? or is it that the O/S is free and open that 
 makes us all help each our out.
 
 
   
 
 
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Re: [newbie] motherboard recommendations

2003-05-29 Thread John Drouhard
On Wed, 28 May 2003 18:05:19 -0500
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The nForce(2) chipsets are not well or completely supported by 
 Linux kernel yet. Neither are Intel iwhatevers. VIA chipsets 
 boards are best supported, mainly due to their popularity and 
 cooperation with the Linux community. Their best are usually 
 followed with an 'a', eg, kt133a, kt266a, kt333a, and kt400a ... 
 the latter which outperforms the nforce2 chipset.
 
nForce only derives (Windoze) rave reviews if perfectly matched, 
 high quality DDR ram modules are used, and then only in few normal 
 real world circunstances.  If you really want an nVidia chipset 
 board, then lobby nVidia to break their license agreements and back 
 room deals with Micro$oft, and help out the folks at kernel.org 
 with some better cooperation.

Actually, I didn't really want an nforce2 motherboard. I just went for
this one because it had AGP 8x and got high reviews. Could anyone point
me to a motherboard that works well with linux, is not too terribly
expensive, and has support for AGP 8x (I am going to try a Radeon with
the new FireGL drivers, they are supposed to have good support with X
and WineX). 

Thanks again!



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Re: [newbie] OT - MS to lose Munich?

2003-05-29 Thread Aron Smith
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 15:49, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 14:56, Ladislav Bodnar wrote:
  On Wednesday 28 May 2003 12:46, walt wrote:
   Now if sco gets its way, won't it be illegal for Munich to use
   linux???
  
  That's a very big IF!
 
 I think that right now is one of the few times you're going to see this
 type of a revolt against a software company - or against a software
 mentality - SCO and Microsoft are feeling what IBM felt more than 10
 years ago - history DOES repeat itself. IBM was way too big for it's
 britches, and now, Microsoft is in that place; SCO won't have a
 snowball's hope in Hell of doing much of anything with all the hot air
 they've been blowing - besides, they literally cut their own throats;
 remember they sold linux boxes just weeks ago...
-
-The GS factor strikes again. (Greed and Stupidity) 
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Re: [newbie] motherboard recommendations

2003-05-29 Thread Benjamin Jeeves
I have the ASUS A7N8X MB and have no problems but did have to patch the kernel 
for the onbroad lan but that was easy as installing a driver in windows.

On Wednesday 28 May 2003 4:53 pm, John Drouhard wrote:
 I was considering upgrading my computer with a new motherboard and
 processor. I was highly considering the Asus A7N8X which uses the
 nforce2 chip set. It does not, however, have on-board video, so i was
 gonna get a radeon 9500 pro and use the FireGL drivers. Does anyone know
 if this motherboard with an Athlon XP 2100+ is compatible with Linux? I
 think it may need a patched kernel with the nforce2 drivers, but I'm not
 completely sure. Any help would be appreciated.

 Thanks!!

 - John Drouhard

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Re: [newbie] Can't get a GUI boot

2003-05-29 Thread Gareth Qually
Thanks guys for that help. I tired yours first, Dennis, since it was simpler
at it worked a charm. John I have kept yours on file aswell, just in case.


Ciao

Gareth Qually

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From: Gareth Qually [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:22 AM
Subject: [newbie] Can't get a GUI boot


 This sounds really silly, but when I start Linux, it boots to a text login
 not the Gnome environment I origionally had. How do i get it to boot to
 Gnome environment again? I am using Mandrake 9.1 on a i86 machine.

 Thanks

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Re: [newbie] motherboard recommendations

2003-05-29 Thread FemmeFatale
At 07:00 PM 5/28/2003 -0400, you wrote:
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 12:53 pm, John Drouhard wrote:
 I was considering upgrading my computer with a new motherboard and
 processor. I was highly considering the Asus A7N8X which uses the
 nforce2 chip set. It does not, however, have on-board video, so i was
 gonna get a radeon 9500 pro and use the FireGL drivers. Does anyone know
 if this motherboard with an Athlon XP 2100+ is compatible with Linux? I
 think it may need a patched kernel with the nforce2 drivers, but I'm not
 completely sure. Any help would be appreciated.
snipped gregs... answer


I know nothing about Athys.  Sorry ... I do know I have an Rad 9700.  Works 
fine but I haven't tried the ati drivers yet.  Lemme reinstall linux  Ill 
post my expereiences.  Only caveat: I had to load linux using vgalo or 
whatever option it is in the advanced options menu when you go to install 
MDK.  sigh...otherwise you get a black screen.  :\  It sucks.
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Re: [newbie] No sound

2003-05-29 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday May 28 2003 06:59 pm, Robin Turner wrote:
 Adolf, Michael F wrote:
  Greetings,
  I just installed Mandrake 9.2 from a download.

 There's a 9.2?

  has been for quite some time

tom$ cat /etc/mandrake-release
Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (Cooker) for i586

 It is on a dual boot Dell
  with its own disk. During install, it found my crystal sound
  card and suggested driver cs46xx from a list of drivers.  After
  installation, however, I have no sound.  How can I debug the
  dirver install?  Is there another driver I should have
  selected?

 Run aumix and check the settings - for some weird reason it can
 default to having all channels muted.  Failing that, run
 sndconfig (when not in X).

That's probly it.  Otherwise it might be a Dell cs46xx and the 
driver doesn't quite get along with it. Run 'draksound' and see 
what the suggested driver is, what's being used, and what any 
alternatives might be. But as Robin suggested, 'aumix' is probly 
zeroed.
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[newbie] aethera for KDE

2003-05-29 Thread walt

Anyone ever try this Email client for KDE? If so, would love your opinion.

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[newbie] OT: Letter from Novell to SCO

2003-05-29 Thread Marco Verheul
Hi all,

I just picked this up at a dutch Linux mailinglist. It makes some 
interesting reading!!

http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2003/05/pr03033.html

Marco


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[newbie] Problem connecting ADSL modem to the net

2003-05-29 Thread Gareth Qually
I have almost got the net setup working, or so I think. When I set up my
ADSL modem, a Speedtouch 330, during set up, it seemed to go well. It just
asked me to put this file 'mgmt.o' in the /usr/share/speedtouch directory.
It gave me a web address to get this file, but the only linux drivers did
not seem to have it. Can anyone shed some light on this? Will I need any
more set up to get the net connection working?

Thanks
Ciao

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[newbie] IsTwo monitors possible?

2003-05-29 Thread Gareth Qually
I have a Chaintech G-force 4 TI4200 128mb Graphics card. Is it possible to
run two monitors in Linux using this card? Thanks

Ciao

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[newbie] Acqua-Graphite theme for 9.1?

2003-05-29 Thread Marco Verheul
Hi,

Is the Acqua-Graphite theme available for 9.1? I tried to install the 
9.0 theme but I get an error when I run install.sh.

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Re: [newbie] motherboard recommendations

2003-05-29 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 02:10 pm, John Drouhard wrote:
 On Wed, 28 May 2003 18:05:19 -0500

 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The nForce(2) chipsets are not well or completely supported by
  Linux kernel yet. Neither are Intel iwhatevers. VIA chipsets
  boards are best supported, mainly due to their popularity and
  cooperation with the Linux community. Their best are usually
  followed with an 'a', eg, kt133a, kt266a, kt333a, and kt400a ...
  the latter which outperforms the nforce2 chipset.
 
 nForce only derives (Windoze) rave reviews if perfectly matched,
  high quality DDR ram modules are used, and then only in few normal
  real world circunstances.  If you really want an nVidia chipset
  board, then lobby nVidia to break their license agreements and back
  room deals with Micro$oft, and help out the folks at kernel.org
  with some better cooperation.

 Actually, I didn't really want an nforce2 motherboard. I just went for
 this one because it had AGP 8x and got high reviews. Could anyone point
 me to a motherboard that works well with linux, is not too terribly
 expensive, and has support for AGP 8x (I am going to try a Radeon with
 the new FireGL drivers, they are supposed to have good support with X
 and WineX).

I am running a Soyo KT400 Dragion Ultra Black Edition that supports AGP8x, 
USB2.0, 166MHz fsb and has 4 IDE channels and onboard sound (CMI 8738) and 
nic (VIA Rhine2).  $106 at Newegg.com with free shipping.

The only thing not supported out of the box with 9.1 is the additional 
ATA-RAID controller (Highpoint) but it works fine as additional IDE channels.  
Works fantastic here.

FYI, I matched it with the AthlonXP 1700+ which I am clocking to 2400+ speeds 
only by changing the fsb to 166, no chip mods or crazy tricks to get it to 
work, just good case ventilation.  That cpu is only like $42.
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[newbie] Evolution for 9.1?

2003-05-29 Thread Marco Verheul
Hi,

I just installed 9.1 and i want to set up my system. I was using 
Evolution in 9.0 but I can't seem to find the right version. Does 
anybody has Evolution running in 9.1? When I try to install the beta 
stuff I get all kinds of dependency errors.

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Re: [newbie] motherboard recommendations

2003-05-29 Thread FemmeFatale
At 06:10 PM 5/28/2003 +, you wrote:
snip Toms' rambling crap... :D

Actually, I didn't really want an nforce2 motherboard. I just went for
this one because it had AGP 8x and got high reviews. Could anyone point
me to a motherboard that works well with linux, is not too terribly
expensive, and has support for AGP 8x (I am going to try a Radeon with
the new FireGL drivers, they are supposed to have good support with X
and WineX).
Thanks again!
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4c800-d/overview.htm

i have that board.

has more than I need + an upgrade path.
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