R: R: [newbie-it] CONTROLLER RAID E MANDRAKE !

2003-08-14 Thread Rocco
 Grazie Tom, purtroppo dopo aver fatto un giro nei siti che mi avevi
suggerito scopro con mio dispiacere che Mandrake non riconosce i
controller RAID/IDE così com'è quello che si trova incluso nella mia
scheda madre! Questo significa che non potrò installare Linux ;-((
Forse una soluzione ci sarebbe, ed è nel sito seguente:
http://www.nettika.net/tmb/9.1/ ,


Scusa Tom! Il sito corretto è:
http://www.netikka.net/tmb/9.1/
Ti rinnovo i saluti.
Rocco





Re: [newbie-it] esiste tool accesso internet ADSL?

2003-08-14 Thread Andrea Celli
Alle 12:08, domenica 10 agosto 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
 Salve a tutti,
 connessione ADSL...mi sono
 accorto però che non ho/non conosco un tool tipo KPPP, che oltre ad essere
 di più comodo utilizzo rispetto all'accesso da DrakConnect, quindi
 accessibile anche agli utenti (mio fratello) che NON devono conoscere la
 password per il centro di controllo, mi consenta anche (magari tramite 
  simpatico grafico) di vedere 

Che io sappia, hai due possibilità:
- lanciare net_monitor (la parte utile di DrakConnect) tramite sudo
- recuperare tk-pppoe che è una comoda interfaccia grafica (va prima
lanciata come root in modo da dirgli di accettare gli altri utenti).

Poi, come sempre in Linux, ci sono senzaltro altri sistemi ;-)

ciao, Andrea



Re: [newbie-it] Emulatore Terminale

2003-08-14 Thread Giovanni Mazzamati
Il 21:35, mercoledì 06 agosto 2003 alle 21:35, mercoledì 06 agosto 2003, 
Alberto Panigada su [newbie-it] Emulatore Terminale - ha sfarfugliato:
 Ciao a tutti,

 sto cercando un emulatore di terminale 3270 per
 mainFrame per collegarmi da casa (e che funzioni sotto
 linux).
 Ho mocha ma funziona solo in win. (ho provato con ad
 utilizzarlo con wine ma senza successo).

 Dimenticavo DEVE ESSERE FREE

x3270
-- 
73 / 221
Santita', lo vuole davvero su quel cazzo di soffitto? (Michelangelo, 1566)

saluti
Giovanni Mazzamati
+-+
| Linux Slackware 9.0 - KDE 3.1.2 user|
| Registered User #183142 |
+-+
| La conoscenza è nulla senza condivisione. |
| Paolo Caldana aka verbal  |
+-+




R: [newbie-it] I: sempre sulla scheda audio

2003-08-14 Thread carlo_canepa
Chiedo venia, non sono proprio così bestia...il lavoro e il caldo acuiscono
però la mia instabilità..eh eh!!!

-Messaggio originale-
Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di tom
Inviato: mercoledì 6 agosto 2003 12.14
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oggetto: Re: [newbie-it] I: sempre sulla scheda audio

On Wednesday 06 August 2003 11:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 specialmente per me che affronto Linus da zerociao!!!

LINUX si scrive e si legge con la X finale :)

-- 
 Ciao , Tom

 . ~ . 
 / v \ 
   /  /  \  \ 
 /  (  )  \ 
^^   ^^ 
8 orizzontale: Battono con il  freddo... transsiberiani
Slack 9.0
Linux user Tattari_manna aka plugs
Mauro... un'ammaestratore di liste ... un incubo!





Re: R: R: [newbie-it] CONTROLLER RAID E MANDRAKE !

2003-08-14 Thread tom
On Friday 08 August 2003 10:50, Rocco wrote:
 solo che anche a comprendere bene l'inglese non riesco a capire il
 significato tecnico delle spiegazioni di linux! Così non so se il tutto
 può fare al caso mio.
 Puoi aiutarmi??!!

purtroppo passo!!
io sono nella tua stessa situazione...
quando mi trovo di fronte ad howto in inglese vado ad nasum et culum :)
tento,provo,sbaglio e alla fine imploro aiuto

cmq per quel poco che ho capito,si tratta di update della distro per bugs-fix,
scarichi gli update crei un cd boottable con gli aggiornamenti e aggiorni.
non capisco pero,perche si debba creare un cd!! (anche se nel tuo caso questo 
è fondamentale!! non riesci ad installare!!)
cmq una soluzione sarebbe quella di scaricarti la MKD 9.2-beta2 (se hai banda) 
che credo ( e dico credo ) abbia corretto questi bugs.
http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3
sviscera un po il sito e vedi se tiri fuori il ragno dal buco.

 Saluti Rocco

-- 
 Ciao , Tom

 . ~ . 
 / v \ 
   /  /  \  \ 
 /  (  )  \ 
^^   ^^ 
All'inizio l'EMACS non era altro che un elaboratore di testi. Alla fine 
divenne un modello di vita per molti e una religione per alcuni. Una 
religione che definiamo la Chiesa dell EMACS! (RMS)
Slack 9.0
Linux user Tattari_manna aka plugs
Mauro... un'ammaestratore di liste ... un incubo!




Re: R: [newbie-it] I: sempre sulla scheda audio

2003-08-14 Thread Andrea Celli
Alle 20:15, giovedì 7 agosto 2003, carlo_canepa ha scritto:
 Uh, allora credo che dal bios io debba toccare qualocosa su tutta la serie
 di irq nel menu di Pci congiguration che in manual hann0 tutte le opzioni
 di pnp/isa: che devo modificare per questa maledetta sound blaster? 

No, da qualche parte tutti i BIOS che ho visto hanno una opzione
del tipo sistemi che supportano PNP, basta metterla su no/off.
Windows non ne risente e per Linux è quello che serve.
Pasticciare con gli irq potrebbe essere rischioso, oltre che inutile.
 
 ...  Io non
 ne ho idea! Se entro nel centro di controllo mandrake per modificare avvio
 non capisco nulla di come fare.

Nel centro di controllo, avvio, c'è qualcosa di simile alla figura 10.4 in
http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/90c/it/Starter.html/drakboot.html
nella 9.1 è un po' cambiata.
Scegli configura, ti apparirà una schermata da cui puoi modificare le
singole voci presenti nel menu iniziale di boot. Scegli quella standard, che 
di solito si chiama linux e modificane le opzioni.

 .se cerco il file lilo.conf non lo trovo,
 quindi???AIUTO

Non c'è /etc/lilo.conf ? 
Significa che durante l'installazione hai scelto grub come bootloader.
Devi apportare una modifica simile in /boot/grub/menu.lst.
In questo caso, la modifica ha subito effetto dal prossimo riavvio: non devi
lanciare lilo o altro per renderla effettiva.
Attento, comunque, che  sia menu.lst che lilo.conf possono essere modificati
solo da root.

ciao, Andrea

PS. ricordati che devi fare uno solo di questi interventi ;-)



Re: [newbie-it] esiste tool accesso internet ADSL?

2003-08-14 Thread tom
On Sunday 10 August 2003 12:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 quindi accessibile anche agli utenti
 (mio fratello) che NON devono conoscere la password per il centro di
 controllo,

se hai una flat,perche non fai partire la conessione all avvio?

mi pare che anche MDK adoperi rp-pppoe (in shell da root dai adsl-start,e lo 
verifichi)
inserisci questo in /etc/rc.d/rc.local

##faccio connettere il mio modem diesel alla rete,
##cosi mio fratello non spacca le [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/usr/sbin/adsl-start

-- 
 Ciao , Tom

 . ~ . 
 / v \ 
   /  /  \  \ 
 /  (  )  \ 
^^   ^^ 
Motto di Canada Bill Jones: E' moralmente sbagliato lasciare che i pollastri 
si tengano i loro soldi. Supplemento Una colt vale piu' di un poker d'Assi.
Slack 9.0
Linux user Tattari_manna aka plugs
Mauro... un'ammaestratore di liste ... un incubo!




Re: Grazie miKe - Re: [newbie-it] AIUTO KERNEL PANIC

2003-08-14 Thread miKe
Alle Thursday 07 August 2003 07:27,  in merito a Grazie miKe - Re: 
[newbie-it] AIUTO KERNEL PANIC,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   ha scritto:

 Che bello , che bello è arrivato Giovedì e se non riesco a farmi
 incastrare finalmente domani sono in vacanza
..
 A settembre , ciao

goditi le vacanze che a settembre esce la 2.6 stabile e ricominciano i 
dolori!
;P

 Dario
 ***

-- 
bye 

miKe
_
Slackware 8.0 GNU/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 313T
R.U.#219755 SRU#755 





Re: [newbie-it] Caps Lock

2003-08-14 Thread Giovanni Mazzamati
Il 09:48, giovedì 14 agosto 2003 alle 09:48, giovedì 14 agosto 2003, Andrea 
Celli su Re: [newbie-it] Caps Lock - ha sfarfugliato:
 Alle 08:27, giovedì 14 agosto 2003, Benedetto Santarella ha scritto:
  Salve a tutti,
 
  esiste un metodo per attivare all'accenzione in cups lock???
 
  grazie a tutti

 si ma non lo ricordo ;-)
 forse perché in tutte le ultime Mandrake me lo ha impostato
 automaticamente. O, forse, c'era una spunta da mettere durante la
 configurazione iniziale? Se si, l'ho messa senza pensarci e dovrebbe essere
 ancora attivabile dal MandrakeControlCenter.
 Altrimenti, cerca un po' su groups.google.com. Trovi senz'altro  qualche
 vecchio messaggio che spiega come fare.


 ciao, andrea
Il pacchetto in questione dovrebbe essere numlock.

P.S.
Ciao Andrea, come va? E' un pò che non ci si sente...
Il 27 settembre stiamo organizzando una majabbuffata a Pisa, che fai sei dei 
nostri?

-- 
36 / 221
Cosa hanno di intelligente ste' bombe: gli spermatozoi di Bill Gates? (Zelig)

saluti
Giovanni Mazzamati
+-+
| Linux Slackware 9.0 - KDE 3.1.2 user|
| Registered User #183142 |
+-+
| La conoscenza è nulla senza condivisione. |
| Paolo Caldana aka verbal  |
+-+





[newbie-it] Bios no/pnp

2003-08-14 Thread Luigi De Pascale
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, Andrea Celli wrote:

 Alle 20:15, giovedì 7 agosto 2003, carlo_canepa ha scritto:
  Uh, allora credo che dal bios io debba toccare qualocosa su tutta la serie
  di irq nel menu di Pci congiguration che in manual hann0 tutte le opzioni
  di pnp/isa: che devo modificare per questa maledetta sound blaster? 
 
 No, da qualche parte tutti i BIOS che ho visto hanno una opzione
 del tipo sistemi che supportano PNP, basta metterla su no/off.
 Windows non ne risente e per Linux è quello che serve.
 Pasticciare con gli irq potrebbe essere rischioso, oltre che inutile.
  

Mi dispiace ma quest'ultima affermazione e' falsa.
Per esempio alcuni bios su travelmate della acer non hanno questa opzione.
Tutto dipende da quanto ili computer e' designed for windows.
Luigi




Re: [newbie-it] I: sempre sulla scheda audio

2003-08-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Initial Header ---
Okay, ti ringrazio tanto, adesso sono al lavoro ma appena posso provo! Una cosa 
soltanto: siccome ho un enorme problema, cioè che KDE non viene lanciato (è il 
problema grosso che dovrò risolvere dopo questo della scheda audio), posso fare le 
stesse operazioni che dici tu su KDE in GNOME? E come? RIngrazio te  e tutti quelli 
che rispondono, un enorme aiuto davvero, specialmente per me che affronto Linus da 
zerociao!!!

From  : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To  : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc  :
Date  : Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:58:04 +0200
Subject : Re: [newbie-it] I: sempre sulla scheda audio

 Alle 17:19, martedì 5 agosto 2003, carlo_canepa ha scritto:
  -Messaggio originale-
  Da: carlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Inviato: martedì 5 agosto 2003 17.16
  A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Oggetto: sempre sulla scheda audio
 
  Allora ho lanciato dmesg ed ecco il risultato:
 
 
  isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
  isapnp: SB audio device quirk - increasing port rangeisapnp: Card
  'Creative ViBRA16X PnP'
 .
 questa è la tua scheda audio.
 viene riconosciuta come una Sound Blaster 'Creative ViBRA16X PnP'
 .

  Capisco che è una bella mazzata di roba, ma io non sono in grado di
  capire se c'è il detect della scheda audio e quale è il
  problema!!!Ancora grazie a tutti

 brutalmente, bastava lanciare dmesg |less e poi dare /audio
 per andare diritti alle righe utili. Con un po' più di esperienza
 sapresti che gli isapnp-tools sono gli strumenti usati da Linux
 (con la x finale, Linus è il tizio che l'ha inventato) per riconoscere
 e configurare le schede pnp.

 Con una scheda simile mi è sempre bastato il giochetto di
 disabilitare  l'opzione pnp del bios.
 I modi sono due:
 - apri il BIOS (tenendo premuto il tasto canc all'accensione del PC)
 e disabiliti l'opzione 'sistemi operativi che supportano pnp'
 - con il centro di controllo kde vai nella sessione avvio, configurazione
 di lilo, e aggiungi nobiospnp tra le opzioni.
 Equivalente alla seconda, apri il file /etc/lilo.conf e modifichi tutte le
 righe del tipo
 append=qualcosa in
 append=qualcosa nobiospnp
 esci dal file e lanci il comando lilo. Ovviamente, devi farlo come root.

 ciao, Andrea








R: R: [newbie-it] come configuro scheda audio??

2003-08-14 Thread carlo_canepa
Thanks, ma, mi devfi scusare, ma io di Linus non so davvero un accidente: so
configurare windows, programmare in asp e usare sql server, ma linus è buoi
completo per me, ancora, quindi dove prendo quel programma che dici,
alsamix?

-Messaggio originale-
Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di toto
Inviato: lunedì 4 agosto 2003 21.08
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oggetto: Re: R: [newbie-it] come configuro scheda audio??

Alle 16:48, lunedì 4 agosto 2003, carlo_canepa ha scritto:
 Grazie per l'informazione sul sito, il problema a monte è che non so che
 scheda audio ho su quel pc, e non riesco a trovare utilità di Mandrake per
 vedere quale è: se guardo la lista dell'hardware in Centro di Controllo
 MAndrake 9.1 non mi fornisce nessuna informazione, come se la scheda audio
 non ci fosse ( e c'è di sicuro)..quindi non so come fare

 -Messaggio originale-
 Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di tom
 Inviato: lunedì 4 agosto 2003 16.17
 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Oggetto: Re: [newbie-it] come configuro scheda audio??

 On Monday 04 August 2003 16:08, carlo_canepa wrote:
  Sono un assoluto principiante di linux. Ho installato  mandrake 9.1 e
non
  mi riconosce la scheda audio. Due cose: dove guardo per sapere se la

 scheda

  audio del mio pc è supportata, e come faccio a farla riconoscere??

 sul sito della MDK sotto software supportato

 che scheda audio è?
Prova a installare alsamix , alsamixer-guicon i relativi plugin. Il più
delle 
volte risolve i problemi della scheda audio.
Good Job
Totò





Re: [newbie-it] W2KP e Mandrake... piccolo problema con gli HD

2003-08-14 Thread Enrico Teotti

Scusa ma perch#232; hai fatta tutta questa operazione?
Sono poco esperto! :-)

Potevi, molto pi#249; semplicemente, installare entrambi i s.o. senza 
staccare i dischi.
L'unica cosa che sarebbe stata toccata nel primo disco riguardava 
l'installazione del boot loader che funziona correttamente facendo 
partire sia win2000 che linux.

Se non hai lavorato con la mdk (cio#232; non hai dati importanti salvati) ti 
conviene attaccare i due dischi e reinstallare.
mdk conviene sul disco master o slave?

Se non ti parte nemmeno win2000, puoi recuperare l'installazione con il 
cd di win2000 (esiste una procedura apposita).
Quando metto il suo disco come primario e quello di mandrake come secondario parte.

Grazie e ciao!



Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail!
http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005



Re: [newbie-it] cups e lpd

2003-08-14 Thread Andrea Celli
Alle 08:26, giovedì 14 agosto 2003, Benedetto Santarella ha scritto:
 Salve a tutti,

 ho una stampante ad aghi in rete e due macchine linux, il server
 con RH 7.3  e il client con MDK 9.1. Sulla MDK 9.1 e' configurata
 una stampante ad aghi. Il problema è che la RH usa lpd x stampare
 e la MDK usa cups. Come posso puntare dalla RH la stampante che
 si trova sulla mdk??? Oppure esiste qualche versione di lpd che posso
 installare sulla MDK??? Sul cd non c'e' niente!

credo che basti dire al centro di controllo di Mandrake che la stampante
deve essere accessibile dalle altre macchine della rete e poi dire a RH
che c'è una stampante attaccata a Mandrake.
Se devi modificare qualcosa, metti cups su RH è superiore a lpd.

ciao, andrea



[newbie-it] Caps Lock

2003-08-14 Thread Benedetto Santarella
Salve a tutti,

esiste un metodo per attivare all'accenzione in cups lock???

grazie a tutti
-- 
\ | /
 (@ @)
-o00-(_)-00o
Benedetto.Santarella




[newbie-it] Emulatori progr Windozz

2003-08-14 Thread kua79
Salve gente!
Qualcuno conosce qualche bel programmino che mi emuli li API di 
Windozz?? Ho provato ad installare Wine e funziona in parte... Alcuni 
progr non riesce a farli girare e guarda caso quello che serve a me non 
gliela fà! :(
Grazie ancora !! :))




Re: R: [newbie-it] I: sempre sulla scheda audio

2003-08-14 Thread tom
On Thursday 07 August 2003 20:15, carlo_canepa wrote:
 se cerco il file lilo.conf non lo trovo,

/etc/lilo.conf

-- 
 Ciao , Tom

 . ~ . 
 / v \ 
   /  /  \  \ 
 /  (  )  \ 
^^   ^^ 
Free as in freedom. (RMS)
Slack 9.0
Linux user Tattari_manna aka plugs
Mauro... un'ammaestratore di liste ... un incubo!




Re: [newbie-it] Caps Lock

2003-08-14 Thread dragx
Il gio, 2003-08-14 alle 08:27, Benedetto Santarella ha scritto:
 Salve a tutti,
 
 esiste un metodo per attivare all'accenzione in cups lock???
 
 grazie a tutti

da Centro di controllo / Periferiche / Tastiera
e spunti BlocNum all'avvio di kde
-- 
Mandrake 9.1  ICQ 8592162
oltrelinux.azzurra.org #savona
LU 225078   LM 107590




[newbie-it] cups e lpd

2003-08-14 Thread Benedetto Santarella
Salve a tutti,

ho una stampante ad aghi in rete e due macchine linux, il server
con RH 7.3  e il client con MDK 9.1. Sulla MDK 9.1 e' configurata
una stampante ad aghi. Il problema è che la RH usa lpd x stampare 
e la MDK usa cups. Come posso puntare dalla RH la stampante che 
si trova sulla mdk??? Oppure esiste qualche versione di lpd che posso
installare sulla MDK??? Sul cd non c'e' niente!

Grazie a tutti
-- 
\ | /
 (@ @)
-o00-(_)-00o
Benedetto Santarella




Re: [newbie-it] Emulatori progr Windozz

2003-08-14 Thread Andrea Celli
Alle 17:16, domenica 10 agosto 2003, kua79 ha scritto:
 Salve gente!
 Qualcuno conosce qualche bel programmino che mi emuli li API di
 Windozz?? Ho provato ad installare Wine e funziona in parte... Alcuni
 progr non riesce a farli girare e guarda caso quello che serve a me non
 gliela fà! :(

L'unico è Wine, con alcune estensioni semi-commerciali di codewarriors per far 
girare office. Però, si tratta sempre di un codice alpha che ha ancora
bisogno di crecere molto.

Altra strada è quella di installare programmi tipo vmware o win4lin che, in 
modo leggermente diverso tra loro, emulano un secondo Pc su cui far girare
un altro sistema operativo (es. win). Hanno solo tre difetti: sono 
commerciali, richiedono una licenza win  e succhiano parecchie risorse.

ciao, Andrea




[newbie-it] esiste tool accesso internet ADSL?

2003-08-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Salve a tutti,
ieri,dopo grande fatica (visto che Drakconnect mi ha tirato scemo per
ore,sostenendo che la scheda ethernet,tranquillamente identificata dal centro
di controllo,non poteva essere configurata perchè...non era installata!)sono
riuscito ad attivare la mia connessione ADSL...mi sono accorto però che non
ho/non conosco un tool tipo KPPP, che oltre ad essere di più comodo utilizzo
rispetto all'accesso da DrakConnect, quindi accessibile anche agli utenti
(mio fratello) che NON devono conoscere la password per il centro di
controllo, mi consenta anche (magari tramite simpatico grafico) di vedere le
quantità di k inviate e ricevute durante la connessione (in pratica il
monitoraggio della rete, che però funziona solo se il primo tentativo di
connessione automatica fallisce).
qualcuno sa consigliarmi in proposito? 
grazie x l'attenzione,
ciao
Alberto




R: R: [newbie-it] I: sempre sulla scheda audio

2003-08-14 Thread carlo_canepa
Grazie davvero per le utili indicazioni; purtroppo non sono giunto ancora a
capo di nulla: il bootloader è effettivamente grub, ho dato da centro di
controllo, drakboot, nella voce opzioni per il kernel nobiospnp, ma non
vanel bios ho spappolato tutte le voci da features setup a tutte le
altre ma quella opzione per disabilitare pnp non la trovo...non so più che
fare

-Messaggio originale-
Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Andrea Celli
Inviato: venerdì 8 agosto 2003 9.57
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oggetto: Re: R: [newbie-it] I: sempre sulla scheda audio

Alle 20:15, giovedì 7 agosto 2003, carlo_canepa ha scritto:
 Uh, allora credo che dal bios io debba toccare qualocosa su tutta la serie
 di irq nel menu di Pci congiguration che in manual hann0 tutte le opzioni
 di pnp/isa: che devo modificare per questa maledetta sound blaster? 

No, da qualche parte tutti i BIOS che ho visto hanno una opzione
del tipo sistemi che supportano PNP, basta metterla su no/off.
Windows non ne risente e per Linux è quello che serve.
Pasticciare con gli irq potrebbe essere rischioso, oltre che inutile.
 
 ...  Io non
 ne ho idea! Se entro nel centro di controllo mandrake per modificare avvio
 non capisco nulla di come fare.

Nel centro di controllo, avvio, c'è qualcosa di simile alla figura 10.4 in
http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/90c/it/Starter.html/drakboot.html
nella 9.1 è un po' cambiata.
Scegli configura, ti apparirà una schermata da cui puoi modificare le
singole voci presenti nel menu iniziale di boot. Scegli quella standard, che

di solito si chiama linux e modificane le opzioni.

 .se cerco il file lilo.conf non lo trovo,
 quindi???AIUTO

Non c'è /etc/lilo.conf ? 
Significa che durante l'installazione hai scelto grub come bootloader.
Devi apportare una modifica simile in /boot/grub/menu.lst.
In questo caso, la modifica ha subito effetto dal prossimo riavvio: non devi
lanciare lilo o altro per renderla effettiva.
Attento, comunque, che  sia menu.lst che lilo.conf possono essere modificati
solo da root.

ciao, Andrea

PS. ricordati che devi fare uno solo di questi interventi ;-)




R: [newbie-it] I: sempre sulla scheda audio

2003-08-14 Thread carlo_canepa
Uh, allora credo che dal bios io debba toccare qualocosa su tutta la serie
di irq nel menu di Pci congiguration che in manual hann0 tutte le opzioni di
pnp/isa: che devo modificare per questa maledetta sound blaster? Io non ne
ho idea! Se entro nel centro di controllo mandrake per modificare avvio non
capisco nulla di come farese cerco il file lilo.conf non lo trovo,
quindi???AIUTO

-Messaggio originale-
Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Andrea Celli
Inviato: mercoledì 6 agosto 2003 9.58
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oggetto: Re: [newbie-it] I: sempre sulla scheda audio

Alle 17:19, martedì 5 agosto 2003, carlo_canepa ha scritto:
 -Messaggio originale-
 Da: carlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Inviato: martedì 5 agosto 2003 17.16
 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Oggetto: sempre sulla scheda audio

 Allora ho lanciato dmesg ed ecco il risultato:


 isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
 isapnp: SB audio device quirk - increasing port rangeisapnp: Card
 'Creative ViBRA16X PnP'
.
questa è la tua scheda audio.
viene riconosciuta come una Sound Blaster 'Creative ViBRA16X PnP'
.

 Capisco che è una bella mazzata di roba, ma io non sono in grado di
 capire se c'è il detect della scheda audio e quale è il
 problema!!!Ancora grazie a tutti

brutalmente, bastava lanciare dmesg |less e poi dare /audio
per andare diritti alle righe utili. Con un po' più di esperienza
sapresti che gli isapnp-tools sono gli strumenti usati da Linux
(con la x finale, Linus è il tizio che l'ha inventato) per riconoscere
e configurare le schede pnp.

Con una scheda simile mi è sempre bastato il giochetto di
disabilitare  l'opzione pnp del bios. 
I modi sono due:
- apri il BIOS (tenendo premuto il tasto canc all'accensione del PC)
e disabiliti l'opzione 'sistemi operativi che supportano pnp'
- con il centro di controllo kde vai nella sessione avvio, configurazione
di lilo, e aggiungi nobiospnp tra le opzioni.
Equivalente alla seconda, apri il file /etc/lilo.conf e modifichi tutte le 
righe del tipo
append=qualcosa in
append=qualcosa nobiospnp
esci dal file e lanci il comando lilo. Ovviamente, devi farlo come root.

ciao, Andrea






Re: [newbie-it] I: sempre sulla scheda audio

2003-08-14 Thread Enrico Teotti
In verit#224; andrebbe chiamato GNU/Linux.
http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.it.html
:-)

--

- Original Message -

DATE: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 12:13:57 
From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 

On Wednesday 06 August 2003 11:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 specialmente per me che affronto Linus da zerociao!!!

LINUX si scrive e si legge con la X finale :)

-- 
 Ciao , Tom

 . ~ . 
 / v \ 
   /  /  \  \ 
 /  (  )  \ 
^^   ^^ 
8 orizzontale: Battono con il  freddo... transsiberiani
Slack 9.0
Linux user Tattari_manna aka plugs
Mauro... un'ammaestratore di liste ... un incubo!







Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail!
http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005



[newbie-it] Domande estive....

2003-08-14 Thread Giovanni Coan
Sotto un sole cocente, mi appresto a porre le seguenti
domande:
1 - Come configurare un server dhcp e un client dhcp
in modo che si riconoscano, una volta collegati ? Il
desktop è il server, il laptop è il client...
Partizione NFS per scaricare i dati dal client al
server...Le schnede di rete, pur se usb, sono
riconosciute...

2 - Come fare a far sì che k3b veda anche il cdrom
oltre almasterizzatore? Per le copie al volo...

Se possibile, risposte dettagliate...Non sono un
genio, aggiungete poi il caldo ed il lavoro...Grazie mille

=
Giovanni A. Coan
Medico chirurgo
V. Aldo Moro,5
40036 Monzuno (BO)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

__
Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, il filtro 
Anti-spam
http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/



Re: [newbie-it] Domande estive....

2003-08-14 Thread freefred
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Tuesday 05 August 2003 19:25, Giovanni Coan wrote:
 Sotto un sole cocente, mi appresto a porre le seguenti
 domande:
 1 - Come configurare un server dhcp e un client dhcp
 in modo che si riconoscano, una volta collegati ?

Per il configurare il server potresti farlo se non ricordo male
dal centro di controllo (ma non l'ho mai fatto) o leggere qualche doc in rete, 
tipo questo:
http://www.sistemistiindipendenti.org/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=54
(c'e' anche un doc sulla masterizzazione)

 Per il client ti basta lanciare al boot il demone dhcpcd


 2 - Come fare a far sì che k3b veda anche il cdrom
 oltre almasterizzatore? Per le copie al volo...

Mh, capito' anche a me..il k3b ti ha cambiato l'fstab?
Se si', probabilmente non ti ha messo una voce ne' creato una dir
in cui montare la sua specie di disco virtuale.
(spiegarmi peggio forse non potevo, lo so.)
Cioe' nell'fstab hai dei punti di mount che si chiamano recorder, recorder1 o
qualcosa del genere?

bye
- -- 
Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia
http://www.acidlife.com/mayhem/freefred/
Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://www.marcob.org/go.asp?~freefred/
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQE/MC9hJoljSvtxdFkRAlKJAJ0VDetNreKagLsHVGVdlYnzOJH11gCgmvAN
sHTTJfV2R2xCoqIum94njeM=
=hC4x
-END PGP SIGNATURE-




Re: [newbie-it] AIUTO KERNEL PANIC

2003-08-14 Thread libero

...
  Dentro qualcosa cé ma non mi ricordo purtoppo cosa c'era prima,
  comunque Diskdrake mi haveva chiesto se doveva spostare tutti i dati
  e io gli avevo risposto di si.

 ai...

 la prossima volta,

 gioca con fdisk
 riavvia
 crea la partizione nuova
 comprimi quella da spostare in un archivio tar.bz2
 monta la nuova (un punto qualsiasi)  e decomprimi all'interno la vecchia
 se nella nuova trovi tutto (un sano diff)
 cambia nome alla vecchia (usr --usr.old)
 quindi monta la nuova e aggiorna fstab

 se tutto funzionerà correttamente (la sfiga..)
 potrai rimuovere la vecchia dir recuperando spazio per / ...

Ehm... me ne ricordero, le c. cerco di farle una volta sola


 qualcosa non torna...
 / è la 6 mentre usr (farlocca) la 5...
 se fstab dice che / è in 5 non può partire nulla...

 rescue
 chroot in 6
 modifica lilo  (/ in 6)
 lilo -v -v
 reboot

 e vediamo come si lamenta stavolta


Fatto ció al riavvio tutto va bene fino a quando
...

Finding Module dependenciesOK
Starting RAID devices
Checking fliesystems
/dev/hda5:

The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
filesystem, if the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem
(and not swap or UFS or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and
you might try running e2fsck whit an alternate superblock:
e2fsck -b 8193 device

Fsck.ext3: bad magic number in superblock while trying to open /dev/hda5
Failed to check filesystem, do you want to repair the errors? (Y/N)
(Beware you can Lose data)

Se rispondo Y, la tiritera continua in :

An error occurred during the filesystem check
Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot
when you leave the shell

Give root password for maintenance or Ctrl/D for normal startup

Ora se do Ctrl/D il sistema fá il reboot e mi ritrovo nelle stessa
situazione
Se gli dó la pwd di root mi ritrovo nella / di hda6
Se provo a dargli il comando   e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda5  , mi ridá:

The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
filesystem, if the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem
(and not swap or UFS or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and
you might try running e2fsck whit an alternate superblock:
e2fsck -b 8193 device

Fsck.ext3: bad magic number in superblock while trying to open /dev/hda5



Ora il mal di testa non é solo una possibilitá é certezza e se penso che
devo lavorare ancora fino a Giovedí

Ciao
Dario




Re: [newbie-it] come configuro scheda audio??

2003-08-14 Thread Enrico Teotti
ciao,
mi intrometto perch#232; anche io ho un problemino con la mia scheda audio.
E' integrata nella scheda madre (una ASUS A7V8X). Nel centro di controllo Mandrake in 
Hardware viene riconosciuto qualcosa (non ho controllato in verit#224; che fosse lo 
stesso modello... ma presumo (la presuzione per#242; porta spesso ad errori :P ) di 
si dato che #232; stata rilevata n automatico e non ci sono altre schede audio sul PC.
Ho alzato tutti i volumi in Mandrake e quelli fisici delle casse. Quando lancio 
l'utility per il play della musica per#242; non sento nulla.

Qualcuno saprebbe indicarmi cosa fare?
Grazie!




Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail!
http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005



[newbie] Still need Xwindow help.

2003-08-14 Thread R. L. Moore
First. Thanks to all that responded.
First I Maked a copy of the log file and cp to floppy. (thanks DFOX). 
Then I  Ran XFdrake (Thanks Stephen Kuhn).
Unfortunately this did not help. Below is my original post . The log 
file is quite long and I don't know if I should paste it and send it to 
the group or send it as an attachment. Which should I do.

I go to regular command line after boot. After stopping X I tried to 
restart. I get an nVidia error message. I am A total Newbie and don't 
know were to get message to  print let alone send a copy to list. :~(. 
My video card is an Elsa Gladiac MX nVidia GeForce 2 MX Rev A. I went to 
Elsa's Webpage and linux info is in GERMAN. Natually they have M$ info 
in english. Had Mandrake 7.2 Power pack running on the same machine fine 
until HD Meltdown. I need step by step help. At a total loss. Internet 
no help. Neither KDE or Gnome will come up at boot. Always command line. 
Where do I get a driver? How do I get it? Can I use my M$ machine to get 
it? How do I install it at command line? Totally fustrated. Please Help!! 


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


[newbie] Soundblaster Audigy2 and MDK 9.1

2003-08-14 Thread Wayne Rolfe
I have a SB audigy 2 and I am using MDK 9.1 I cannot get any sound
does anybody have a suggestion for me

Kind Regards
Wayne

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] xmms-perl

2003-08-14 Thread Kasper Thunoe
Solution was fairly simple. After looking at the error messages another
time I saw that it went haywire after not finding glib.h, so i figured
it must have something to do with glib, which it did.I installed
ibglib1.2-devel and libglib2.0_0-devel. After that it worked just fine.
:)
Kasper

tir, 2003-08-12 kl. 21:57 skrev Todd Slater:
 How bout the solution for those that come after you?
 
 Todd
 
 On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 07:57:36PM +0200, Kasper Thunoe wrote:
  Nevermind!
  Worked it out myself ;)
  
  tir, 2003-08-12 kl. 18:09 skrev Kasper Thunoe:
   Hey list
   
   Been trying to get this: perl -MCPAN -e 'install Bundle::Xmms' - to
   work. But so far no luck. I get a bunch of errors which I'm not putting
   here, cause I'm thinking it must be a general problem for all
   Mandrakers. Anyways I'm on 9.1 if thats helping.
   Hope someone knows a solution to this.
   
   TIA
   Kasper
   
   
   
   __
   
   Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
   Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
  
  
 
  Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
  Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
 


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


[newbie] 9.2 beta2

2003-08-14 Thread Dennis Myers
Looks like beta2 was loosed to the world. Some mirrors have it and some don't 
yet. See the ML home page. 
-- 
Dennis M. linux user #180842

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Noob help! - can't create a boot floppy in 9.1

2003-08-14 Thread Douglas Bainbridge
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 13:14, Anne Wilson wrote: 
 On Wednesday 06 Aug 2003 1:08 pm, Douglas Bainbridge wrote:
  On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 23:15, Derek Jennings wrote:
  snip
snip
 I haven't been following this, so forgive me if this has been covered 
 already.
 
 Has your fstab got 'user' in the floppy line, like this:
 
 none /mnt/floppy supermount 
 dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850 0 
 0
 (all on one line, of course
 
 If not, put the 'user' in (you will have to do this as root (use File 
 Manager Super User Mode), save it, then do 'mount -a' in a root 
 terminal.
 
 After that you should be able to make your boot floppy with DrakFloppy 
 just as you wanted to.
 
 Anne
Anne,

Thanks again. I'll try that.


later: tried it. Still won't write.

DougB

BTW, did you get my e-mail about CanoScanners? Was there anything
relevant?


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


[newbie] webmin resource

2003-08-14 Thread Haywiremac

sorry if this is old, thought it might be appreciated:

http://swelltech.com/support/webminguide-1.0/index.html

-- 
HaywireMac

The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and
robbers there will be.
-- Lao Tsu

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Installation query: Passing multiple arguments toinstaller routine

2003-08-14 Thread Heather/Femme
On Sat, 2003-08-09 at 22:42, Charles A Edwards wrote:
 On 09 Aug 2003 19:56:16 -0400
 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  if you are installing 9.1, there is no expert mode, like there was
  in 7.0-9.0, but in some sections (like configuring the network) you
  can chose an expert mode.
 
 There is still an expert mode.
 It is not avaiable from the default installation but has to be called
 from F1.
 
 # linux expert vga=normal or simply
 # expert vga=normal
 
 
 Charles

Ty :)
-- 
Femme
On MDK 9.1, more or less 24/7...cept for gaming. Finally. :D


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] chkrootkit

2003-08-14 Thread Dennis Myers
On Wednesday 13 August 2003 09:30 pm, Chris wrote:
 Running chkrootkit I get the following when searching for suspicious files
 and directories.  Does this mean these are suspicious or just the ones
 checked?

 Searching for suspicious files and dirs, it may take a while...
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/Term/ReadKey/.p
ackli st /usr/lib/jre-1.3.1_04/bin/.java_wrapper
 /usr/lib/office60/share/fonts/truetyp
 e/.mozilla_font_summary.ndb /usr/lib/staroffice/share/gnome/net/auto
 pilots/.dir
 ectory /usr/lib/staroffice/share/gnome/net/.directory
 /usr/lib/staroffice/share/
 gnome/net/.order /usr/lib/staroffice/share/gnome/net/information and
 setup/.dire
 ctory /usr/lib/staroffice/share/gnome/net/other/.directory
 /usr/lib/staroffice/s
 hare/kde/net/applnk/StarOffice 6.0/auto pilots/.directory
 /usr/lib/staroffice/sh
 are/kde/net/applnk/StarOffice 6.0/.directory
 /usr/lib/staroffice/share/kde/net/a
 pplnk/StarOffice 6.0/.order
 /usr/lib/staroffice/share/kde/net/applnk/StarOffice
 6.0/information and setup/.directory
 /usr/lib/staroffice/share/kde/net/applnk/St
 arOffice 6.0/other/.directory
 /usr/lib/staroffice/share/samples/english/.nametra
 nslation.table

Hmmm, this is completely different that what mine shows. Did you have and out 
put similar to below:
Checking `slogin'... not infected
Checking `sendmail'... not infected
Checking `sshd'... not infected
Checking `syslogd'... not infected
Checking `tar'... not infected
Checking `tcpd'... not found
Checking `tcpdump'... not infected
Checking `top'... not infected
Checking `telnetd'... not found
Checking `timed'... not found
Checking `traceroute'... not infected
Checking `w'... not infected
Checking `write'... not infected
Checking `aliens'... no suspect files
Searching for sniffer's logs, it may take a while... nothing found
Searching for HiDrootkit's default dir... nothing found
Searching for t0rn's default files and dirs... nothing found
Searching for t0rn's v8 defaults... nothing found
Searching for Lion Worm default files and dirs... nothing found
Searching for RSHA's default files and dir... nothing found
Searching for RH-Sharpe's default files... nothing found
Searching for Ambient's rootkit (ark) default files and dirs... nothing found
Searching for suspicious files and dirs, it may take a while... nothing found
Searching for LPD Worm files and dirs... nothing found
Searching for Ramen Worm files and dirs... nothing found
Searching for Maniac files and dirs... nothing found
Searching for RK17 files and dirs... nothing found
Searching for Ducoci rootkit... nothing found
Searching for Adore Worm... nothing found
Searching for ShitC Worm... nothing found
Searching for Omega Worm... nothing found
Searching for Sadmind/IIS Worm... nothing found
Searching for MonKit... nothing found
Searching for Showtee... nothing found
Searching for OpticKit... nothing found
Searching for T.R.K... nothing found
Searching for Mithra... nothing found
Searching for OBSD rk v1... nothing found
Searching for LOC rootkit ... nothing found
Searching for Romanian rootkit ... nothing found
Searching for anomalies in shell history files... nothing found
Checking `asp'... not infected
Checking `bindshell'... not infected
Checking `lkm'... Checking `rexedcs'... not found
Checking `sniffer'... Checking `wted'... nothing deleted
Checking `scalper'... not infected
Checking `slapper'... not infected
Checking `z2'...
nothing deleted

and then the output you show? It almost looks like there are bad things in 
your garden, but I am not sure what is going on. Which version of chkrootkit 
are you using? 
-- 
Dennis M. linux user #180842

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] 9.2 beta2

2003-08-14 Thread David E. Fox
 Looks like beta2 was loosed to the world. Some mirrors have it and some don't 
 yet. See the ML home page. 

Maybe it's worth it? - don't know. I had a hell of an experience getting
back from what might be a botched urpmi upgrade from beta1. Some file
corruption (minor) in /etc and X no longer works, among other things. I
had issues with kde - conflicts between different versions of kdemultimedia,
kdenetwork, and so forth.


David E. Fox  Thanks for letting me
[EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   on your hard disk.
---

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] You guys all owe SCO $1399 for your Mandrake

2003-08-14 Thread Aron Smith
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 00:48, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 06:07, Harv Nelson wrote:
 
  As in Foster's, Australian for beer! ???  I'll take that deal.  See 
  ya'll in January/February.
  
  Harv/ AI9NL
  
  Washburn, Wisconsin
 
 Fosters is only sold to N.America because no one here wants to drink it
 - it's too weak, yet the N.American's think it's too strong.
 
 Here we drink either VB or 
 
 No typo.
And we'll bring Bud Lite for Stephen ;-#


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Cody Harris

- Original Message - 
From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?


 On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:10:07 -0300
 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
  I have to use Xfree version 3 because 4 makes a lot of verticle bars
  and the colour gets messed up

 ya, that's what I got too with my old Trio64V2. I picked up an old PCI

It seems to work OK if i use 640*480*8, which is not using the card accell
right? Anyways, i was messing around and kinda fudged things up, and now
it doesn't work at all (not even term). I'll take a look into the Beta,
where can i get it?

 card at the junk shop, can't remember the name now. That might be a lot
 easier than upgrading to the newest XFree. I got some info on their list
 that the next version is going to have more support for S3 cards. *Or*
 you could try installing the new MDK 9.2 beta, I think it has a more
 recent version of XFree...Tom would know more about that than me, but
 check it out on the MDK site.

Is beta under download?


 -- 
 HaywireMac

 The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and
 robbers there will be.
 -- Lao Tsu








 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
 Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] You guys all owe SCO $1399 for your Mandrake

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 22:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Wednesday 06 Aug 2003 1:22 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  I'll give them some money when they pay me for submitting bug
  reports back in 1990 for SCO XENIX...or if Darl McBride flies out
  here and cuts my lawn...other than that, they're getting blood from
  a stone.
 
 I'll cut your lawn for $1399 g
 
 Anne

Good. December and January are our hottest months - you have to use the
push mower I bought for five dollars at the market, in a pair of $2
sandals, on a 45 degree slope, with a beer in one hand - right after a
drizzle - mind you, one acre.

-- 
Wed Aug  6 23:25:00 EST 2003
 23:25:00 up 3 days,  3:13,  2 users,  load average: 3.47, 3.36, 3.28
-
|____  |kuhn media australia|
|   /-oo /| |'-.   |http://kma.0catch.com   |
|  .\__/ || |   |  ||
|   _ /  `._ \|_|_.-'  |stephen kuhn|
|  | /  \__.`=._) (_   | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
-
  linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+  RH 9  
  Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586
-
 * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer *

Th' MIND is the Pizza Palace of th' SOUL

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Lothian
Ok if you were to get ADSL ou wouldn't get a modem each.

You would get one modem (for as little as £30) for the computer that is 
most likely to be on for most of the time

You buy 1 network card for each computer (as cheep as £10 each)  making 
sure it works in Linux first

And a cheap hub.

Use the internet conection sharing wizard to tel linux yiu want to share 
the conection

Then everyone in your house can share the ADSL conection.

You can get ADSL for less than £20 per month.

This is the setup I'm using here I got a Network Startup Kit for £30 
which was a hub and 2 network cards.

I assure it is worth it and makes life a lot easier (it also works with 
windows if anyone's actually silly enough to use it)

I'm also sure if you search arround on ebay.co.uk you;ll find an even 
cheeper solution.

Mike

John Richard Smith wrote:

Michael Lothian wrote:


Yes that's true but the cost is considerably more, the quality of 
service improvement not that much higher, and in my case I have to 
buy 4 new modems  just to get started. 


What exactly is your setup?

 

I have 3 computer, and my wife has hers and several of my daughters 
each have computers that float in and out according to presence in the 
family.I don't propose upgrading them, but the 4 that sit at home will 
all need one ADSL  each.  I have concidered building a serverbox to 
link via  lans to each but right now that is beyond my ability, though 
I don't rule it out for the future, but bear in mind I didn't even own 
a computer 3 years ago. I would like a server box though, would be fun 
to muck around with.

So right now we wait until the price of these high speed internet 
connections are ready for the mass market. Which incidentally will be 
one of the key spurs to a meaningful economic recovery around the 
world.It's one of the key drivers that is holding the world back.

John



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
 



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] hdd copying VERY slow

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 19:56, Anarky wrote:

 like I said in another mail if I copy fat32 to linux partition 
 (don't know what kind exactly, the default installed with mdk 9.1) the 
 speed is constantly fast. But that is one side of it: that copy speed  
 dropdown.
 As I understand these tests (hdparm -tT ) don't have anything to do 
 with the partition type (actually at least on hda I've got like 7 or 8 
 partitions) ... so maybe there's a problem in general in how my linux 
 works with my hdds?

This is actually more of an inefficiency of FAT/FAT32/NTFS partitions
and structures - not with GNU/linux; always bear in mind that
FAT/FAT32/NTFS file systems are more than 10 years old and haven't been
updated as Microsoft doesn't feel it necessary to do so...at least until
2005...

-- 
Mon Aug 11 20:10:01 EST 2003
 20:10:01 up 7 days, 23:58,  1 user,  load average: 3.01, 2.24, 2.01
-
|____  |kuhn media australia|
|   /-oo /| |'-.   |http://kma.0catch.com   |
|  .\__/ || |   |  ||
|   _ /  `._ \|_|_.-'  |stephen kuhn|
|  | /  \__.`=._) (_   | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
-
  linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+  RH 9  
  Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586
-
 * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer *

Indeed, the first noble truth of Buddhism, usually translated as
`all life is suffering,' is more accurately rendered `life is filled
with a sense of pervasive unsatisfactoriness.'
-- M.D. Epstein

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] newgrp

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Urwin
On Thursday 14 Aug 2003 11:47 am, Dan Jones wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 02:57, Richard Urwin wrote:
  Only that your group is inherited by processes that you start. If
  you do newgrp www and then start a file manager or editor from that
  commandline they will be in group www.

 I understand that.  That's why I pointed out that I could execute
 newgrp in a terminal and edit the file via vi.

Not just vi. Any X windows programs you start will also inherit the new 
group.

 Of course, I could
 run any other program from the command line as well, but doesn't that
 defeat half the purpose of running a GUI in the first place?

I get the feeling that *real* Linux users are heavily into the command 
line. And they are the ones doing the development. :-(

-- 
Richard Urwin

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] popfile

2003-08-14 Thread Miark
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:14:29 -0700, Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry if i should be rtfm'ing.
 
 Which port did you use?  It's gotta be above 1024 to run as non root
 (according to the error message), but i tried a couple at random, and it
 wouldn't work.  The interface fired up, so it was running, but sylpheed
 reported a connection error.

 I think i need to tell Sylpheed somehow to use a non-default port in the
 proxy.

Exactly:

1. Configuration  Edit Accounts... 
2. Double-click the account
3. Click the Advanced tab
4. Check the Specify POP3 port box and match the 
   number to whatever you chose in POPFile.

Miark


 
 And i need to go dig up port info to make sure i am not using a
 used one...
 
 Thanks,
 eric
 
 pop3_port 110
 pop3_secure_port 110
 
 On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:23:43 -0400
 Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:34:15 -0700, Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
   Am i missing something?  Is there some way to run it as user with
   seperate config directories? If i understood the website FAQ
   properly, you can't.
  
  Eric,
  
  Their docs are geared to Winsux boxes for which I'm sure they're
  right. However in Linux, you can run a different instance of it from
  each user's home directory.
  
  To make it work, make sure that each instance uses a different POP3
  listen port and web port which you can effortlessly change in the 
  popfile.cfg file.
  
  Miark
  
  
 
 

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


[newbie] OF INTEREST: [Virus Alerts [Prevention: the best weapon againstthe Blaster wor m - 08/13/03]]

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen Kuhn
I get this stuff just about every day - just goes to show y'all how much
Microsoft TRULY and REALLY cares for their PURCHASING PUBLIC.

Wazzat Billy Gates? You want to make safe software for the public?

-Forwarded Message-
Subject: Virus Alerts [Prevention: the best weapon against the Blaster wor m - 
08/13/03]
Date: 13 Aug 2003 15:02:25 +0200

 - Prevention: the best weapon against the Blaster worm -
   Virus Alerts, by Panda Software (http://www.pandasoftware.com) 

Madrid, August 13, 2003 - The Blaster worm continues to wreak havoc in users
PCs, as borne out by the number of incidents recorded by Panda Software's
international tech support network, and it is still the virus most
frequently detected by Panda ActiveScan, the free online scanner.

However, the epidemic currently being caused by Blaster could easily have
been avoided. The vulnerability exploited  was reported  by Microsoft almost
a month and half ago and was widely reported by the international media. The
same advise was repeated time and again: to avoid problems, simply apply the
Microsoft patch.

Seemingly this advise fell on deaf ears, judging by the number of computers
affected by Blaster. The situation also highlights the general lack of
security awareness among home users, who have been affected more than any
other  user group  Users with personal firewalls installed have escaped the
effects of the worm, as port 135, used by Blaster to enter computers, is
protected by these kinds of programs. 

Likewise, the high number of incidents still being caused by Blaster is also
largely a result of the failure by users to keep the antivirus software in
their PCs completely up-to-date.

Similarly, the RPC DCOM vulnerability continues to cause problems, as Panda
Software's Virus Laboratory has detected the appearance of a new worm/Trojan
called W32/RPCSdbot which exploits the Windows vulnerability to take control
of the infected computer and spread via e-mail.

However, protecting against Blaster, W32/RPCSdbot and other viruses that
could emerge in the near future can be simple, provided users take a few
basic precautions:

- Find out about and apply patches to correct vulnerabilities detected in
the software installed on your PC. Vendors websites will normally have this
sort of information and the downloads. Similarly, e-bulletin services, such
as Panda Software's Oxygen3 24h-365d free newsletter, provide the latest
information on these security issues.

- Keep your antivirus updated. The simplest way is to install solutions that
update automatically when users connect to the Internet such as Panda
Antivirus Titanium or Platinum 7.0.

- Install a personal firewall in your computer, with both broadband and
modem  connections, as just a few seconds is all it takes for a malicious
code like Blaster to infect your PC. Solutions like Panda Antivirus Platinum
7.0 actually include a personal firewall.

Finally, Panda Software advises all users who haven't done so already to
update their antivirus solution. The company has already released the
updates to detect  Blaster and W32/RPCSDbot, so if your software is not
configured to do so automatically, you can update your antivirus from
http://www.pandasoftware.com

Panda Software has also released the PQREMOVE application designed
specifically to clean and repair systems affected by Blaster. This utility
can be downloaded from http://www.pandasoftware.com/downloads/utililities/

For further information about Blaster, W32/RPCSdbot and other viruses, visit
Panda Software's Virus Encyclopedia at:
http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/encyclopedia/


-- 
Thu Aug 14 12:35:00 EST 2003
 12:35:00 up 10 days, 16:23,  1 user,  load average: 2.74, 2.61, 2.50
-
|____  |kuhn media australia|
|   /-oo /| |'-.   |http://kma.0catch.com   |
|  .\__/ || |   |  ||
|   _ /  `._ \|_|_.-'  |stephen kuhn|
|  | /  \__.`=._) (_   | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
-
  linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+  RH 9  
  Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586
-
 * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer *

Politics and the fate of mankind are formed by men without ideals and without
greatness.  Those who have greatness within them do not go in for politics.
-- Albert Camus

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] kpdfimport rpm

2003-08-14 Thread Lee Wiggers
I haven't paid enough attention here to urpmi outside my selected sites and got hung 
up in dependencies when I tried to install these offerings before I asked about an mdk 
rpm.

inept is when you lack ept?  That's me.

Lee

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 19:59:02 +1200
Sharrea Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 14 August 2003 16:16, Lee Wiggers wrote:
  Hi all
 
  Anyone know where to find mdk rpm for kpdfimport?
 
 google turned up sourceforge or rpmfind.net:
 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/kpdfimport/  or
 http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=kpdfimportsubmit=Search+...
 
 Sharrea
 -- 
 Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today
 
 



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] newgrp

2003-08-14 Thread Dan Jones
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 02:57, Richard Urwin wrote:
 On Thursday 14 Aug 2003 1:28 am, Dan Jones wrote:
  For example, I have a web server.  I don't want my web pages to be
  world writable.  However, I do want multiple people (say, a
  development team) to be able to modify the files.  So I create a
  group called www and add the users to that group.  I then assign
  ownership of the html files to that group (and set group permissions
  for those files to rwx.)
 
  However, when I log in I'm not a member of the www group (unless I
  change my primary group to www.)  If I attempt to edit the html file,
  I'll get permission denied when I try to save it.  However, if I open
  a terminal, execute the command newgrp www, my group is changed to
  www. I can then edit the file in vi and save it.  However, I can't
  edit the file in, say, amaya, because the newgrp command only affects
  the shell it's executed in (ie, the terminal.)  My xwindows session
  still sees me in my default group.
 
  Now, I could change my default group to www, but what if I'm a member
  of several different development groups?  I don't want to have
  different log-ins for each group, and have to log out and log back in
  as a different user when I want to work on a different project. 
  However, unless there's a way to execute newgrp and have it affect
  the parent process, I don't see a way around this.
 
  Am I missing something fundamental in my understanding of groups and
  permissions?
 
 Only that your group is inherited by processes that you start. If you do 
 newgrp www and then start a file manager or editor from that 
 commandline they will be in group www.

I understand that.  That's why I pointed out that I could execute newgrp
in a terminal and edit the file via vi.  Of course, I could run any
other program from the command line as well, but doesn't that defeat
half the purpose of running a GUI in the first place?

 It would be useful to have the KDE panels able to switch groups, but I 
 don't think they can.

It would be extremely useful.  It's hard to believe that this issue
hasn't been addressed and solved.




Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


RE: [newbie] The writing on the wall.

2003-08-14 Thread Frankie
The other problem with MTA forced disclaimers is that it breaks PGP
encryption..
So if you ever need to encrypt or checksum your emails, you will have to
lose the
disclaimer.

This would be better set as a company wide policy and have a smaller sig
file attached
by the users email client. (where it won't break RFC's or encryption.)

rgds

Franki



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony S. Sykes
All,

I have sent this email to my MD to try to solve the problem;

A few people have mentioned the size of our email disclaimer, and the
fact that after a few emails between BCP and customers we can have
several of our disclaimers against the email. We also put the disclaimer
at the end of the email. This poses a problem for somebody who receives
it by mistake. They have read the email before they read the disclaimer.
While we don't send out much information which could harm us in anyway
we could be placing ourselves in a tricky position. I would like to
suggest the solution of putting the disclaimer on an web page and
putting a link to it at the top of the email. This would also save a
little bandwidth in the email server.

Who says this list does not help Windows? (God help us)

Tony.


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 and Apache

2003-08-14 Thread bob parker
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 07:54, ed tharp wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 16:19, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 05:41, bob parker wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I'm considering installing 9.1 but I want to use Apache with PHP.
  
   I heard that there are compatability problems with PHP and Apache V2.
  
   What version of Apache comes with 9.1?
  
   And if it is V2, does anyone have success with PHP?
  
   Thanks
  
   Bob Parker

 I have had php and v2 apache with no problems other than normal
 configuration problems (what doc root, permissions etc)
 9.1 comes with both versions, they can be installed side by side, and
 you can start which ever one you like.

Thanks confident to install it now.
Bob

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


RE: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Sabin, Matthew
Title: RE: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)





Are you using the correct cable? Cat5 crossover cable vs. normal cable?


Your PC would have connected to the LAN with a normal cable, but the DSL/modem (misnomer) may require a crossover cable to connect to a PC.

--Matthew


-Original Message-
From: Julien Sobrier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)



Ben wrote:
 Not sure what you mean my Ethernet modem, but if you mean an ethernet based 
 DSL modem, then assuming that it's ilke the rest of SBC's DSL network, it's 
 only doing bridging. The PPPoE session is established via your PC through the 
 DSL modem which only establishes the ecnapsulation for whatever protocol your 
 ISP (SBC) is using before sending your PPPoE request to the authenticating 
 server. MODEM is an acronym for MODulate-DEModulate which translates teh 
 signal into what is necessary for the devices to communicate. In the case of 
 DSL, it's the DSL modem talking to the DSLAM (DSL Access Multiplexer) over 
 your phone line using frequencies over 8khz (reserved for voice). If you've 
 configured your PPPoE connection in mandrake Network Setup, then you'll need 
 to make sure that the authentication is taking place. Hope this helps. 
(Erro: message previously sent to Ben only, copy on the newsgroup)


Hello
I have a modem (I don't thonk it is a router) which must be plugged to 
the ethernet network card of my computer.
Il I try to make a connection using PPPoE, nothing happens. But I 
noticed that if I choose ppptd instead of PPPoE, the activity led of the 
modem blinks (but no connections occurs).


The network card where my modem is plugged was previously used for my 
LAN connection. So, maybe I have to change some informations. I tried tu 
put eth0 in static or dhcp mode, up or down, start at boot or not. But I 
still cannot connect to internet: the activity led is off.


I don't know what to do do make my connection working.


I also wonder how the connection manager can understand the provider 
address: sbcglobal.net. Does it need to be translated into an IP address?


THanks
julien








Re: RE: [newbie] PBG3 266 w/ Mandrake 9.1

2003-08-14 Thread Vickie Jean-Charles
Greetings,

Thanks :)

I have been messing around with different flavors of Linux since 1999.  
I was on hiatus for awhile but I am glad to be back.

Thank you everybody for your help.

Peace,

Vickie


Frankie wrote:


I don't think its the processor or even the ram.. I have a 233MMX with 
128
mb of ram handling one of my ADSL conenctions and its full speed 
ahead...

I am not sure what might be to blame, but I'd start by checking out the
modem setup, what is it? USB???

If so, whats the model? go searching for info via google.com with the 
model
number and linux as keywords.

Welcome to linux lady.. I hope you become a longterm member...  :-)


rgds

Franki


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of VJC
Sent: Wednesday, 13 August 2003 7:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] PBG3 266 w/ Mandrake 9.1


Greetings all,

I have finally installed Mandrake Linux 9.1 and got the windows managers
working on my Apple PowerBook G3 (266MHz, 128MB RAM, 4 GB hard drive).
However, I am still having some weird problems.

I got the DSL internet connection working but it is moving at dialup 
speed.
And it moves a little slow. Now, I know that it is just a 266MHz 
processor
but I am wondering if something else may be wrong. I have a 350 MB swap
partition. Could that be it? Any help on these issues would be greatly
appreciated.

Have a great day all!!


Peace,

Vickie








Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 and Apache

2003-08-14 Thread Avi Schwartz
I did not try to install Apache2 and PHP on mdk 9.1 yet but I can tell 
you I had a very bizarre experience on two different SuSE 8.2 systems.  
On one, the two installed beautifully and worked out of the box.  On 
another machine I could not get the this combination to work and I 
ended up using Apache 1 instead.  I have no explanation :-(

Avi

On Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003, at 12:55 America/Chicago, Bryan Tyson wrote:

On Tuesday 12 August 2003 15:41, bob parker wrote:

I heard that there are compatability problems with PHP and Apache V2
I am far from an expert on PHP and Apache. However, I can tell you I
could not get php to work with Apache 2. When I went back to Apache 1
it all worked great.


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] sylpheed and rox: dragging attachments into rox

2003-08-14 Thread Eric Huff
 not sure. might be best asked as a cross post to the sylpheed or rox
 MLs.

I'll try the when i get a chance and report back.

  It works fine with xftree, and fine if i drag from rox to
  sylpheed...
 
 how the fsck did you do that? I just tried it and when I dragged a
 .png onto a sylpheed compose window it was just a mess of code in the
 message body.

The way to do it is to View -- attachment (Alt A on mine), then drag
the file into the attachment section that shows up. I don't thin i did
anything special to make that work, but let me know if it doesn't on
yours, and i'll see if i changed a view setting.  We're on the same
version...

Oh, and don't un-view the attachment.  For some reason, sylpheed assumes
that means you don't want to attach it.

 cheers matey, howz things been goin, you bin quiet lately?

Things are goin good!  I may have been a little quiet cuz Linux is
workin great, work is super busy, and it hot as h*ll here, so i spent a
little time installing a window ac. Decided to run an extra circuit (i
don't trust these 60 years old wires for use when i am not home...)

eric


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] FS conversion/Partition resizing

2003-08-14 Thread Haywiremac
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:12:58 -0500
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 Partitions can be shrunk. The tool would depend on the FS. BUT 
 you'd still need to backup all data, 'cause it's a risky business. 
 Better to delete partitions and re-create them. In Douglas' case 
 this is necessary since they need to be re-formatted anyhow. 

I am using Ext3, so what tool would I use? Would this tool allow me to
simultaneously, or otherwise, shrink the / partition and *grow* the
/home partition?

...and don't worry, I back everything up all the time, just cuz I'm
usin a Maxtor ;-)

As always, thanks Tom.

-- 
HaywireMac

The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and
robbers there will be.
-- Lao Tsu

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


[newbie] FS conversion/Partition resizing

2003-08-14 Thread Douglas Bainbridge
MD9.1. Two queries:

Is it possible to convert ext3 to Reiser FS in place? If not and you had
to convert by re-installing the system, would there be any way of
transferring or copying an ext3 /home into the new Reiser system ?

Can you shrink partitions in place? I'm wondering about creating
separate partitions for /boot and /var. Could you give me advice about
appropriate sizes for those mount points?

TIA

DougB




Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] mac os x on mandrake

2003-08-14 Thread Haywiremac
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:39:39 +0200
Remo Liechti [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 there's a porject which emulates mac os x on linux. anything like 
 vmware. i heard bout this project but i cant remeber its name...
 google couldnt find anyth.

there's some experimental project to run OSX on x86, but it's not for
public consumption, AFAIK.

-- 
HaywireMac

The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and
robbers there will be.
-- Lao Tsu

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] FS conversion/Partition resizing

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday August 13 2003 10:35 am, Haywiremac wrote:
 On 13 Aug 2003 12:27:37 +0100

 Douglas Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  Can you shrink partitions in place?

 actually, I am curious about this myself. I stupidly divided my
 60 GB drive into 30/30 for / and /home, but I would now like to
 shrink the / partition since I need nowhere near 30 GB for the
 system.

 any thoughts Tom? I don't see any options in MCC for this...

Partitions can be shrunk. The tool would depend on the FS. BUT 
you'd still need to backup all data, 'cause it's a risky business. 
Better to delete partitions and re-create them. In Douglas' case 
this is necessary since they need to be re-formatted anyhow. 

-- 
Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Julien Sobrier
Sabin, Matthew wrote:
Are you using the correct cable?  Cat5 crossover cable vs. normal 
cable?

Your PC would have connected to the LAN with a normal cable, but the 
DSL/modem (misnomer) may require a crossover cable to connect to a PC.

--Matthew
The connection works under Windows, so I guess I have the good cable.

THanks
Julien

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Server mail settings

2003-08-14 Thread Haywiremac
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:17:41 +0200
Toma Jankovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 OK, I have to set up Linux server with 3 or 4 client pc`s. My plan is
 to connect server pc to the Internet and to set geteway for client
 machines How can configure server to recieve e-mail from the net and
 to send and recieve mail from client machines? 

One sol'n is to have the server collect the mail with fetchmail (config
info provided with manpage, ie. man fetchmail), then have the client
machines pop the server for their mail, again using fetchmail.

All you need to do is to install the imap package on the server so
that it will act as a POP server (like the one your ISP has). You can do
this through the MCC software manager.

I've done this myself, it's as easy as pie.

For sending mail, the server should already have postfix running by
default, so you just configure the mail clients to point to your server
by its IP. It will then act just like your ISP's smtp server. Just make
sure you configure postfix on the server to *use* your ISP's smtp as a
relay, so that you don't end up having your mail server end up on an
RBL, or open-relay blacklist. This is well documented in
/etc/postfix/main.cf, the postfix config file.

-- 
HaywireMac

The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and
robbers there will be.
-- Lao Tsu

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


[newbie] popfile with sylpheed rocks!

2003-08-14 Thread Eric Huff
This is great. People have promoted this before, but i'll give my own
quick review:

Popfile is super easy to set up, even for diff users (now that Miark
filled me in on seperating the port #'s).  Since it's written in perl,
its cross platform.  I imagine you could use the same popfile directory
to boot into either OS, though i haven't tried that.


You can set sylpheed to show any header you want, and i set popfile to
add the message link to the headers, so i see this in the preview pane:

X-POPFile-Link:
http://127.0.0.1:8080/jump_to_message?view=popfile35=1.msg
X-Text-Classification: ham

Which means if it does misclassify a mail, i can click on the link and
reclassify it.
Also, so far, Dillo has done fine with the popfile browser interface,
making the entire thing super speedy.


You can also use it as more than a spam filter (though i am not at the
moment):  You can train it to seperate any email out: 
work, personal, spam, good pr0n, bad pr0n, etc...

It does have some sort of white-list ability, but i haven't experimented
with that yet.

eric

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] HELP my modem

2003-08-14 Thread Roland Hughes
I am not sure what you mean by autoload file but you should be able to start 
KPPP in a terminal window.
Roly

On Wednesday 13 August 2003 05:57 am, aj wrote:
 hi all

 I'm new Mandrake 9.1 user and linux too. I've two  questions 1- I've
 notebook Compaq prosignia 150, it has a winmodem Lucent I downloaded the
 drivrer and my hardware internet and network recognized it but I couldn't
 run autoload file which comes with the packege for my modem. thesres
 something missing!.

 second qusetion is how can I bring KPPP in the desk top I could not find it
 in my Kd3.1.

 Thanks all in advance.

 AJ

-- 
MicroSoft - The company that made the internet unsafe!

Linux Counter #241069


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] firestarter and open ports

2003-08-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 06 Aug 2003 3:16 pm, Bill Winegarden wrote:
 Hi,
   Using a trick that I learned on this list, (ip in mail headers) I
 tried to connect to your web server. I am presented with a username
 / password prompt. Also, your ftp server is accepting connections
 but it will not accept anonymous connections.
   Just an update.

 Regards,
 Bill W.

That's a comfort.  Thanks, Bill

Anne

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


[newbie] Installation query: Passing multiple arguments toinstaller routine

2003-08-14 Thread Heather/Femme
I have to install my linux by passing the argument linux vga=normal
*Ty Charles :)*  to the Kernel to get video.  While doing so is fine, i
get a normal installation  I want the installer to use Expert mode. 
Can i add another arg to that line to pass to the kernel?  if so syntax
pls?

Ty
-- 
Femme
On MDK 9.1, more or less 24/7...cept for gaming. Finally. :D


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Installation query: Passing multiple arguments toinstaller routine

2003-08-14 Thread ed tharp
On Sat, 2003-08-09 at 17:18, Heather/Femme wrote:
 I have to install my linux by passing the argument linux vga=normal
 *Ty Charles :)*  to the Kernel to get video.  While doing so is fine, i
 get a normal installation  I want the installer to use Expert mode. 
 Can i add another arg to that line to pass to the kernel?  if so syntax
 pls?
 
 Ty

if you are installing 9.1, there is no expert mode, like there was in
7.0-9.0, but in some sections (like configuring the network) you can
chose an expert mode.


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


[newbie] Unknown or corrupt filesystem.??

2003-08-14 Thread Morten Ydefeldt
I have installed mdk 9.1 on my Ibook g3, and pushed the l button to load
Linux, in the boot-up menu. But then it say hd:9, vwlinuz-2.4.21-0. 13mdk
unknow or corrupt filesystem Then i try the setenv boot-device line. ...
But it says the same again.. What shoul i do?



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] You guys all owe SCO $1399 for your Mandrake

2003-08-14 Thread Aron Smith
On Sat, 2003-08-09 at 14:08, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 05:41, Thinker wrote:
  I have been watching this thread for a while and .. well, I may not know
  much about Linux but I can say that ...
  
  1. Being an American that is married to a German woman, everyone I know
  drinks Warsteiner Dark at room temperature. They say it is not so much
  that American beer is weak, it is more that they put too many
  preservatives and other additives in it. And they say Americans like
  their beer cold because they cant stand to taste it any other way. So I
  am thinking Warsteiner Dark or Peach Schnapps chasers and you will all
  be good to go.
  
  2. Being an American from the great state of Tennessee I think all I
  have to say is 'Corn in a Jar'. Those of you that know what I am talking
  about would agree; this remedy and no one will be mowing anything
  anytime soon.
  
  3. As for the smaller condoms... Evolution dictates the size of the male
  sexual organ. Nature tells us that we 'Americans' don't have to be
  equipped for sex with farm animals, 
  I admit some of my countrymen may be a little smaller than you in the
  Outback. We don't have the Sheepskin for sheep label here in the US.
  
  So yes, I am sure you guys are a little bigger. Otherwise, I suspect you
  guys would have some pretty pissed off sheep.
  
  
  Now back to the show...
  
  
  -=Thinkr
 
 I can't counter that one, mate. Good on ya.
 Corn in a Jar was known to us in Kentucky as PGA or White...if you
 don't drink it, pour some in your gas tank to speed you up going down/up
 I75..
***Naw I just use a tube running to the Carb and breathe in it every 50
miles
 .
 
 BTW, your mother and father aren't related, are they? (g)


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] No automatic init 5

2003-08-14 Thread Miark
On 09 Aug 2003 16:33:35 +1000, Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 2003-08-09 at 14:25, Miark wrote:
  I installed Direct Connect. During installation it said something
  about Mesa (graphics) and I just knew I would suffer because of it.
  
  Now when I boot, it simply never gets to the graphical login, and
  does not display a console login either. Instead I get the string
  of boot status messages, and then it stops. The computer is booted
  and running, but I am not logged in, and have no way to login. 
  (Even the Alt-F2, etc gives me nothing to login with.)
  
  I booted to failsafe, re-installed NVidia's proprietary drivers.
  I ran XFdrake. Test is successful, but I still can not boot with a login.
  
  Now I _can_ boot to failsafe, and do a init 5. (That's why it's possible
  for me to compose this message.) What the hell kind of sense does that
  make? How do I fix this?
  
  Miark
 
 Boot to failsafe; then double check the /etc/lilo.conf and also edit the
 /etc/inittab for default of runlevel 3; re-run lilo; reboot - you SHOULD
 be at the console login; if not, boot back to failsafe, edit the
 /etc/lilo.conf and tell vga=1; re-run lilo, reboot again. Once you've
 got it sorted out in runlevel 3, you can change the inittab to runlevel
 5 and then go back to doing your pr0n surfing.

No go. I removed acpid, changed vga to normal, removed the Direct Connect
rpms, and re-installed the NVidia drivers a few more times. Nothing helps.
As far as booting to init 3, it just doesn't work. In fact, from failsafe 
itself I cannot progress to init 2 or 3--but I can to 5.

When I try to boot to init 5 directly, it gets to about the saslauthd [OK]
message, and then the screen flickers about three times, so it looks like
it's trying to go graphical. But it doesn't work, so it stays on the message 
page. But what's different between booting directly to init 5, and booting
to failsafe and manually doing a init 5?!

Miark

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] rpm is freezing my system...

2003-08-14 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 07 August 2003 07:41 pm, - netmaniac - wrote:
 When I try to access (execute) any rpm based software, like urpmi and
 mandrake control center (the software management part only), my system
 crashes. It suddenly freezes everything even the mouse, and the caps lock
 and scroll lock leds on the keyboard start blinking.

 What went wrong?

 Regards,
 Leonardo Sá

Hmm, I believe that when your LEDs on your keyboard blink simutaneously, its a 
kernel related crash. 

Have you tried updating your RPM database? As su/root, try:

rpm --rebuilddb

and see if it makes it through. If it does, see if it helps.

-- 
  
  /\  
DarkLord 
  \/  


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] You guys all owe SCO $1399 for your Mandrake

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 08:36, Lanman wrote:
 Agreed! But I'm not so sure about the Foster's they make down under!
 
 Lanman

All the Foster's that's shipped outta here comes from a plant in
Parramatta where the workers urinate in the batches prior to the
bottling.

-- 
Thu Aug  7 17:50:00 EST 2003
 17:50:00 up 3 days, 21:38,  1 user,  load average: 1.03, 1.02, 0.89
-
|____  |kuhn media australia|
|   /-oo /| |'-.   |http://kma.0catch.com   |
|  .\__/ || |   |  ||
|   _ /  `._ \|_|_.-'  |stephen kuhn|
|  | /  \__.`=._) (_   | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
-
  linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+  RH 9  
  Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586
-
 * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer *

It's not easy, being green.
-- Kermit the Frog

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] OT--General Linux Questions

2003-08-14 Thread David E. Fox
 1. After reading this article ...
 http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2001436280_linuxgroup08.html

Please put that back. :) I couldn't access it. :)
  
 I am left wondering; where does Intel stand in the debate? Are they
 officially on the M$ side of things are are they attempting to play

Even if that's relevant, AMD makes better processors. See tom's 
hardware. AMD (ca 2001 when I put this box together, at that time
the Pentium 4 had just surfaced) is better and faster at the same clock
speed than P4. There are still serious issues like cache and pipeline
stalls in the P4, unless Intel fixed that since. If Intel is more
MS-friendly than they should be, I don't know. I'll stick with AMD. I,
for one, don't want a computer that keeps track of my existence and
reports to MS - I know I exist, and don't need any help in that area. Of
course, I'm referring to the increasing possibility of DMCA-aware
computing, with processors that detect or refuse to run stuff.)

I can sum up the SCO effort in 2 words: unjust enrichment.

I read another article which made the point that at one time SCO (they
acquired Caldera, right?) was actively trying to market a commercial
Linux distro. I never opted for Caldera, but I read the reviews and
such. Now, they did much of that through GPL, no? Did SCO commit any
*non GPL* changes to the Linux kernel? No - they would have been
rejected by Linus. (Anyone got his input?)

AIX is a totally different animal than Linux. The kernels are different.
How dare SCO tell IBM that every customer is now using an
illegal product.  (we use AIX + Pick at work). But isn't that SCO's
argument? That Linux got polluted by source from AIX?

Redhat, Mandrake, debian, etc. have not signed contracts with SCO to my
knowledge. I know I didn't. I can't be in violation of a non-existant
license.  SCO will never see any money from me. Might as well tell them
that if Linux did not exist, millions of people probably would be
pirating SCO, or perhaps Windows.

 neutral in all of this. I have never used an AMD processor and I wasn't

AMD is superior. 

 license for software they shipped me under the pretense that it was
 'free'? 

Was it shrinkwrapped? Did it have a non-GPL type license to it? 

There have been precedences in the user community reactions over the
years - involving en masse switching to the competition. For instance,
rememmber SEA versus Phil Katz? The result of that was thousands of
BBSes switching to ZIP, almost overnight. GIF licensing threats from
Unisys engendered a similar reaction, more recently.

So if SCO wins, I'll switch to FreeBSD :). I'd rather not, though.
FreeBSD is fine, but I think it would require a lot more post-install
setup than Linux distros do ATM. I could be wrong on that - I haven't
tried it in a very long time.

 -=Thinker

David E. Fox  Thanks for letting me
[EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   on your hard disk.
---

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] You guys all owe SCO $1399 for your Mandrake

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 16:02, Erylon Hines wrote:
 O.K., this works for me.  I'll bring a lawn chair, umbrella, cooler, a dog and 
 12 head of sheep.  Should be done in 8 hours or so.
 
 e.

Dang mate - you thought that one out, dintya?

-- 
Thu Aug  7 17:55:00 EST 2003
 17:55:00 up 3 days, 21:43,  1 user,  load average: 0.96, 1.12, 0.97
-
|____  |kuhn media australia|
|   /-oo /| |'-.   |http://kma.0catch.com   |
|  .\__/ || |   |  ||
|   _ /  `._ \|_|_.-'  |stephen kuhn|
|  | /  \__.`=._) (_   | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
-
  linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+  RH 9  
  Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586
-
 * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer *

A hardware failure will cause system software to crash, and the customer engineer will 
blame the programmer. 
-- Murphy's Laws of Computer Programming n5

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions

2003-08-14 Thread John Richard Smith
Michael Lothian wrote:

Ok if you were to get ADSL ou wouldn't get a modem each.

You would get one modem (for as little as £30) for the computer that 
is most likely to be on for most of the time

You buy 1 network card for each computer (as cheep as £10 each)  
making sure it works in Linux first

And a cheap hub.

Use the internet conection sharing wizard to tel linux yiu want to 
share the conection

Then everyone in your house can share the ADSL conection.

You can get ADSL for less than £20 per month.

This is the setup I'm using here I got a Network Startup Kit for £30 
which was a hub and 2 network cards.

I assure it is worth it and makes life a lot easier (it also works 
with windows if anyone's actually silly enough to use it)

I'm also sure if you search arround on ebay.co.uk you;ll find an even 
cheeper solution.

Mike

John Richard Smith wrote:

Michael Lothian wrote:
 
I have 3 computer, and my wife has hers and several of my daughters 
each have computers that float in and out according to presence in 
the family.I don't propose upgrading them, but the 4 that sit at home 
will all need one ADSL  each.  I have concidered building a serverbox 
to link via  lans to each but right now that is beyond my ability, 
though I don't rule it out for the future, but bear in mind I didn't 
even own a computer 3 years ago. I would like a server box though, 
would be fun to muck around with.

So right now we wait until the price of these high speed internet 
connections are ready for the mass market. Which incidentally will be 
one of the key spurs to a meaningful economic recovery around the 
world.It's one of the key drivers that is holding the world back.

John

So your modem and LAN kit all works well in Linux,

Could you list the make and  models etc.

Or could anyone else list examples of known to work well
IDSL modem, hub and satelite kits .
Also, it gets a bit hot up here in summer. It must work in hostile 
environments , this week I had 106F to contend with though that is the 
exception not the rule, it's just an odd day or two in the year.

John

--
John Richard Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


[newbie] having a ssh server

2003-08-14 Thread Anarky
   hi. I've installed my mandrake 9.1 only with client networking in 
mind ... but now I'm thinking how nice it would be if I could loggin to 
my computer via ssh? Could somebody tell me how to do this / where to 
find info on it? I would also like this ssh to be on a different port 
than 22.


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Mozilla and my bank

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Winegarden
Hi,
Excellent response. I too, deal with a very MS - centric IT department at 
work and getting them to recognize any other options is a real battle. But it 
must have felt good to clue them in none the less.
Well done.

Regards,
Bill W.

On Tuesday 05 August 2003 08:31 pm, David wrote:
 On Monday 04 August 2003 11:58 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 13:41, David wrote:
   Not to belabor this point, but -- I sent a message to the BBT IT
   department and here is their reply --- what a hoot!
  
   Dear Mr. Williams:
  
   Thank you for writing to BBT OnLine Support regarding compatibility of
   WebConnect and Sun.
  
   Sun Microsystems contain features that are not compatible with
   WebConnect.
  
   Sun Microsystems uses their own Java, rather than Microsoft Java.
   WebConnect uses the Java scripting found only in Microsoft Internet
   Explorer and earlier versions of Netscape such as Netscape 4.75.
 
  WHACK
 
  Here's a question to ask them; do they only have white customers?
 
  It's literally the same thing. Prejudicial treatment. (Not
  intentionally, but because the IT department for that bank is stuck with
  a Microsoft solution - which tells you basically where a large amount of
  the profits they make go...)

 --SNIP
 What I actually responded to them was this -- Right or wrong.

 I use BBT for my business account (that I have very recently opened). You
 do realize that the official Java is the Sun Java and that Microsoft Java
 is a bastardized version. BBT should review their policy and be more
 standard with the real Java that is being used. I use America's Bank for
 my personal accounts and  I can use any browser at any time to to connect
 to view my account information. BBT is apparently taking a myopic viewpoint
 and using only Microsoft compatible stuff. You are cutting yourself off
 from a growing segment of the market. Several browsers that are growing in
 popularity such as Mozilla and Opera are far superior to Microsoft
 Explorer. It is BBT's right to use whatever they deem as appropriate.  And,
 I must use a bank that I deem as appropriate.
 David B. Williams


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Glaxium

2003-08-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 04 Aug 2003 8:37 pm, Toran Korshnah wrote:
 MM, denis,

 I use MD 9.1, btw...
 The 7 CD set...

 Toran

So do I, but from my install list the only Glaxium is from Source: 
contrib_sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de_i586_9.1

Joeb says that it is available from the club download area.  I would 
suggest that this might be a more reliable place to get it.

Anne

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] SUBSCRIBE newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen Kuhn
DEAR SIR,

YOUR SUBSCRIPTION TO MICROWAVE COOKING AND CATTLE FETISH GROUP HAVE BEEN
ACCEPTED. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT SOME COUNTRIES HAVE AN AGE LIMIT ON
SEXUAL CONTENT AND THAT THIS GROUP DOES NOT. PLEASE CHECK THE LEGAL
RIGHTS YOU HAVE IN YOUR COUNTRY AS THEY MAY NOT APPLY TO SOMEONE LIVING
IN ANOTHER COUNTRY WHERE MICROWAVE COOKING AND CATTLE FETISH ARE DEEMED
ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES.

WELCOME TO THE MICROWAVE COOKING AND CATTLE FETISH MAILING LIST.

SUBSCRIPTION PRICES ARE AVAILABLE AT $1000 USD FOR MORE SERIOUS USAGE.
 
-- 
Sun Aug 10 13:40:00 EST 2003
 13:40:01 up 6 days, 17:28,  1 user,  load average: 1.73, 2.03, 2.10
-
|____  |kuhn media australia|
|   /-oo /| |'-.   |http://kma.0catch.com   |
|  .\__/ || |   |  ||
|   _ /  `._ \|_|_.-'  |stephen kuhn|
|  | /  \__.`=._) (_   | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
-
  linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+  RH 9  
  Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586
-
 * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer *

You enjoy the company of other people.

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] urpmi setup

2003-08-14 Thread Paul
On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 21:16, Aron Smith wrote:
 What was that site for easy setup of urpmi Again sigh
 
 
 
 __
 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
 Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

A google for 'easy' and 'urpmi' took me to 
http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php

Paul M


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


[newbie] Port scanning

2003-08-14 Thread João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho



Hello, (I'll resend this message, cause I think it 
have notbeen sent b4)

I'm trying to use some services that i'm setting up 
at my computer at home, but the firewall here, where i work, blocks almost all 
the outgoing ports, so, i cant connect to my home computer. So, despite the 
network administer dont want to tell me which outgoing ports are unblocked, i 
want to discover it, by scan, or by any other way. But the scan services we find 
on the internet always scan incoming ports.

Can anyone give me a light on how use 
that?

BTW, anyone know how where to find a step-by-step 
guide on configuring ssh? I'm a newbie, so, i didnt figure out how to configure 
it.

thanx all!!!


[newbie] Font question -- Helvetica not accessible

2003-08-14 Thread deedee
For some reason (that I hope someone here knows), I'm getting the following messages 
as xsession errors:

The font -*-helvetica-boldoblique-r-narrow-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* does not support all 
the required character sets for the current locale en_US
  (Missing character set ISO8859-1)
  (Missing character set ISO8859-1)
The font -*-helvetica-bold-r-narrow-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* does not support all the 
required character sets for the current locale en_US
  (Missing character set ISO8859-1)
  (Missing character set ISO8859-1)
The font -*-helvetica-boldoblique-o-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* does not support all 
the required character sets for the current locale en_US
  (Missing character set ISO8859-1)
  (Missing character set ISO8859-1)

Helvetica including the iso8859-1 character set appears to be on my system, which is 
9.1. I've updated the kernel to 2.4.21-25 and used drakfont to capture some of my 
truetype fonts from the VFAT partition, none of which were helvetica.

I notice that the Help for SO6 is now messed up, as well as gnumeric and the dialog 
boxes for xine.

What happened? How can I get that character set accessed again?

Thanks,
deedee


__
McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network.
Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today!
http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397

Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge.  Download Now!
http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] firestarter and open ports

2003-08-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 07 Aug 2003 12:11 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
 It's probably a mistake. VxWorks is a proprietary OS for portable
 and embedded devices. It has nothing to do with Linux.

No, it's not a mistake.  The router is running it.  It is configured 
from a browser, and VxWorks/WindWeb serves the pages.

Thanks for the thought, though.

Anne

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Study: Linux nears Windows XP usability

2003-08-14 Thread Frankie
So can I.. but does that mean you should???
Sure sounds good in theory.. but if you forked say 200 bucks extra to get a
faster P4 CPU for example, and then bought a winmodem, you will lose most
of the difference that faster CPU would have gotten you as its wasting
cycles doing stuff the modem itself should be.

The funny thing is, that its so hard to find internal modems that are not
winmodems..
cos comparing an external serial with a winmodem is not a fair comparision.

The cost of the external has to not only cover the hardware that the
winmodem should have
it also has to cover the modem case, the power supply for it ect.

An internal hardware modem would be very close to the same price as a
winmodem..
There are a couple out there, their names just escape me at present.

One of my wholesalers has a special on, external modem with a web camera
for 59 bucks AUD.


rgds


Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Kuhn
Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2003 3:26 PM
To: Mandrake Newbie
Subject: RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Study: Linux nears Windows XP usability


On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 13:19, Frankie wrote:
 interesting..

 I have used a dozen differnet no name brand serial external modems and
 never had a problem connecting once..

 In fact one of them is on 24/7 on a permanent dialup connection and its
 been doing that for 3 years..
 never had any probs with them.. just plug them in and run
wvdial or whever
 you use, and off it goes.

 I have also had no real hassles with conextant HCF/HSF
winmodems with the
 linux driver RPM marc wrote.
 Still, to each his own..

 Since a external hardware modem costs about about 50 AUD bucks
nowdays, I
 cant' see why thats a big issue. :-)


 regards


 Franki

Cuz, ya silly bastard, I can get internal modems for $15 AUDHA!
(grin)

--
Wed Aug  6 17:20:01 EST 2003
 17:20:01 up 2 days, 21:08,  2 users,  load average: 2.91, 2.95, 2.92
-
|____  |kuhn media australia|
|   /-oo /| |'-.   |http://kma.0catch.com   |
|  .\__/ || |   |  ||
|   _ /  `._ \|_|_.-'  |stephen kuhn|
|  | /  \__.`=._) (_   | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
-
  linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+  RH 9
  Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586
-
 * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer *

The most costly of all follies is to believe passionately in the palpably
not true.  It is the chief occupation of mankind.
   -- H.L. Mencken




Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Mandrakesecure.net

2003-08-14 Thread Ben
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 09:06, madwand wrote:
 Good morning (or afternoon) all,

 Please forgive my use of Outlook in posting this message.  I've just
 received my 9.1 PowerPack and haven't had the time to complete the install.
 I did use Mandrake 8.x but lost the hard-drive, got busy with work and
 never had the time to reinstall.  I've set aside some of the weekend to get
 mandrake back up and running.

 To my questions:

 1.  does anyone know what's up with Mandrakesecure.net?  I've tried to
 access it for the past few days to catch up on security advisories and
 related installation tips, etc. but I always get a 404 site not found
 error.

 2.does anyone know what happened to Freezer Burn?  I used to use this
 site back when I was using Mandrake 7.2/8.  On a related note, is there a
 list of Mandrake-related websites hosted by Mandrake users?  In the past,
 I've found such sites to be a wonderful source of information both for the
 newbie and for more advanced issues..

 3.are there any 9.1 installation hiccups I should know about?  My
 hardware was OK with 8.0 so I'm assuming it's OK with 9.1.  Is this a safe
 assumption to make?

 That's all for now.  Thanks for any input you can give.

 madwand

For shame using Outlook Express to post to a Mandrake list! j/k ;-) The only 
thing I've run into installing 9.1 was on an IBM Thinkpad T23 laptop. The 
video drivers for the SuperSavage chipset don't work correctly so you get no 
X. Other than that, I've successfully installed it on NUMEROUS other 
multi-boot systems without even a hiccup. Good luck!

-- 
Ben Reeves

He who knows much about others is learned, but he who understands himself is 
more intelligent. He who  
 controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier 
still.  
- Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] You guys all owe SCO $1399 for your Mandrake

2003-08-14 Thread ed tharp
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 08:51, Lanman wrote:
 Dear Mr. McBride; 


if you think you can get blood from this turnup, then when you send the
police, make sure they have _real_ bullets. I don't want none of those
bean bag or plastic bullets in my yard. Real Bullets.


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


RE: [newbie] having a ssh server

2003-08-14 Thread Tony S. Sykes
If you have installed ssh it is usually started by default. So you just
ssh into the box. Same as telnet but use ssh instead. ssh your_ip

Tony.

-Original Message-
From: Anarky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 11:19 AM
To: mandrake newbie
Subject: [newbie] having a ssh server


hi. I've installed my mandrake 9.1 only with client networking in 
mind ... but now I'm thinking how nice it would be if I could loggin to 
my computer via ssh? Could somebody tell me how to do this / where to 
find info on it? I would also like this ssh to be on a different port 
than 22.
  

-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have
received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or
disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes
or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  immediately.

The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not
necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless
specifically stated.  

Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their
attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s)
to verify the integrity of such emails.

 
Business Computer Projects Ltd
BCP House
151 Charles Street
Stockport
Cheshire
SK1 3JY
 
Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000
Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001
Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ 

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] You guys all owe SCO $1399 for your Mandrake

2003-08-14 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 09:58 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Wednesday 06 Aug 2003 2:29 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 22:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
   On Wednesday 06 Aug 2003 1:22 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
I'll give them some money when they pay me for submitting bug
reports back in 1990 for SCO XENIX...or if Darl McBride flies
out here and cuts my lawn...other than that, they're getting
blood from a stone.
  
   I'll cut your lawn for $1399 g
  
   Anne
 
  Good. December and January are our hottest months - you have to use
  the push mower I bought for five dollars at the market, in a pair
  of $2 sandals, on a 45 degree slope, with a beer in one hand -
  right after a drizzle - mind you, one acre.

 Deal off - I don't like beer g

 Anne

Anne:
And I thought you were English. Beer should be encoded in your DNA. Norman?
-- cmg (German, English, Irish -- otherwise known as the beer triple whammy.)


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


[newbie] OT--General Linux Questions

2003-08-14 Thread Thinker
I know this is a little off topic, but I was hoping to hear as many
opinions on these questions as possible.


1. After reading this article ...
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2001436280_linuxgroup08.html
 
I am left wondering; where does Intel stand in the debate? Are they
officially on the M$ side of things are are they attempting to play
neutral in all of this. I have never used an AMD processor and I wasn't
really planning on it, but if Intel is out to hurt Open Source, I will
have to change my stance.

2. After reading this article ...
http://www.vnunet.com/News/1142837

I am wondering, what about UnitedLinux? Isn't SCO part of an ongoing pro
Linux project with SuSE and others? Does SCO expect me to pay $699 for a
license for software they shipped me under the pretense that it was
'free'? 

Honestly, I went to United Linux about 2 months ago and signed up for
the shipment of the free software discs. If I install them, and then pay
the $699 can I not sue them for fraud?


Just a few questions from a newbie trying to make sense out of all this
posturing.


Thanks for your time.  

-=Thinker


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Cody Harris
OH! I forgot to mention, i had an instal;l of 8.1 and it worked fine. Must
have changed some stuff that would cause this.
- Original Message - 
From: Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?



 - Original Message - 
 From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?


  On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:32:01 -0300
  Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
   Ok, i switched to XFree 4, and set resolution to 640*480*8 and did
   Startx and kde messed up, but startx gnome which DIDN'T start
   gnome, but started something else, and it worked. The problem seems to
   rise when i set it to anyother resolution, and KDE just doesn't seem
   to work. HOw do i start gnome? staertx gnome doesn't do it.
 
  exec gnome-session
 Hm...doesn't work...just goes to login on the term i tried it in.
 
  like I said above, the current version of XFree with MDK does not
  support S3 cards very well, see their site for more info.
 
  -- 
  HaywireMac
 
  The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and
  robbers there will be.
  -- Lao Tsu
 
 


 --
--
 


  Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
  Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
 









 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
 Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


RE: [newbie] You guys all owe SCO $1399 for your Mandrake

2003-08-14 Thread Frankie
Bite my bag lanman.. we have lottsa beer here that is 5.5%... :-)
3% is for the light beer, which I don't drink anyway.

A 6 pack of super is a primary requisite for any linux install in this
house.
Over here, I call that a powerPack. :-)


rgds

Franki

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lanman
Sent: Thursday, 7 August 2003 5:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] You guys all owe SCO $1399 for your Mandrake


Ingo; Be careful. We're not talking about Canadian beer here,
we're talking about that weak Aussie beer. No Keith's Pale Ale
down there! Stephen, what's the alcohol content of beer down
there? 3% or something like that? If it's higher than Canadian
beer, I'm in too! If there's a lot of beer, I'll even dress up
Frankie and drag his a$$ across the country to your place and he
can help! ROFL!

But if it's that weak stuff, then you better think about doubling
that price!

Lanman


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


[newbie] HELP!! Video. Startx error message. Mandrake 9.1 Power Pack

2003-08-14 Thread R. L. Moore
I go to regular command line after boot. After stopping X I tried to 
restart. I get an nVidia error message. I am A total Newbie and don't 
know were to get message to  print let alone send a copy to list. :~(. 
My video card is an Elsa Gladiac MX nVidia GeForce 2 MX Rev A. I went to 
Elsa's Webpage and linux info is in GERMAN. Natually they have M$ info 
in english. Had Mandrake 7.2 Power pack running on the same machine fine 
until HD Meltdown. I need step by step help. At a total loss. Internet 
no help. Neither KDE or Gnome will come up at boot. Always command line. 
Where do I get a driver? How do I get it? Can I use my M$ machine to get 
it? How do I install it at command line? Totally fustrated. Please Help!!


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] You guys all owe SCO $1399 for your Mandrake

2003-08-14 Thread Harv Nelson
Paul wrote:

On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 10:17, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 

Yep.  I am not kidding. Are these slimeballs a bunch of maggot puke or
what?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/32187.html

SCO ready to clean out Linux users for $1399 per CPU
By Ashlee Vance in Chicago
Posted: 05/08/2003 at 21:35 GMT
   

Dear Mr McBride,

My cheque is in the post.

Paul M.

 

Dear Paul,

Your shippment just left the loading dock!

Darl



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] system crash....why?

2003-08-14 Thread Ben
Another tool Mike may find useful is gong to linuxconf and checking out the 
status tab then clicking on logs, etc. 
hth,

Ben

On Tuesday 05 August 2003 12:53, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
 Mike,

 Have a look in /var/log/ and you will find various log files in there
 including syslog. These should hold the key to what you are looking for.

 Tony.

 -Original Message-
 From: crak600 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:19 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] system crashwhy?


 isn't there somewhere that linux keeps a lot of what the system does?
 i'm
 sitting here this morning, got gaim, kmail, mozilla, and KsCD running,
 all of
 the sudden the mozilla window closes.  figured that was pretty odd.  i
 go to
 the kmail window, click on it, it closes.  i turned off Gaim myself, but
 then
 the menu bar at the bottom of the screen wouldn't come up at all when i
 moved
 the mouse over it, so i switch to the desktop KsCD is on, try to turn
 that
 off, it disappears.  so now i'm thinking the you konw what has hit the
 fan.
 before i can try an alt ctrl backspace to get out of linux and to the
 saftey of a reboot before i get a complete system crash, the system
 crashed.  so now i'm forced to hit the restart button on the box.  after
 a
 few failed attempts to get into linux, i throw the boot disc in the
 drive
 (cause off the CD alone it wouldn't go).  i tell it to do an install and
 figure i'll just wait til prompted and rescue the installation.  didn't
 give
 me that choice, guess it did it on it's own.  couple of things came up
 about
 it sent kill signals and what not and said it was save to reboot my
 computer.
 i reboot and everything seems fine.  but.

 does the system keep track of stuff like this so i can go in and check
 WHY it
 crashed?  and if it does, where is there a definition of what that stuff
 means, because i prolly won't understand it on my own.  besides my
 numerous
 CD drive failures, this is the only time i remember that the system has
 crashed.  help appreciated, or a point or kick in teh right direction.

 :)

 Mike


 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

 This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have
 received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or
 disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes
 or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  immediately.

 The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not
 necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless
 specifically stated.

 Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their
 attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s)
 to verify the integrity of such emails.


 Business Computer Projects Ltd
 BCP House
 151 Charles Street
 Stockport
 Cheshire
 SK1 3JY

 Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000
 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001
 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/

-- 
Ben Reeves

He who knows much about others is learned, but he who understands himself is 
more intelligent. He who  
 controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier 
still.  
- Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Mozilla Spellcheck finds no errors

2003-08-14 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
John Richard Smith wrote:

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

Ev Apxn wrote:



Ev Apxn wrote:

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 Ev Apxn wrote:

 I installed spellchecking for Mozilla mail, and it seems to
 function but finds no errors, even when there are errors.
 Dd I miss something?
 Ev



 When you run the spellchecker what language is it checking?




English. That's all I use. 




The reason I asked (I should have stated this earlier.) was because I 
had the same problem when I first ran spellchecker.  It had Download 
More as the language so I assumed (incorrectly) that is was 
automatically checking English, since that was the language of the 
browser I was using, and that I could download more language modules 
if I wanted to.  When I changed it to English-- everything worked as 
it should.  This may have only made a difference because I had not 
yet chosen a spellcheck language; I don't know.

I guess that in your case this does not apply.

So when you say, automatically checking English, do you mean,

KDE - Components - spell checker
or,
KDE - Accessibility - Country _ English GB(or whaterver)
Or are you talking about spellchecker in a composer of an emailer.

John 


I talking about the spellchecker in Mozilla.

--
Brant Fitzsimmons
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident.
-Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] You guys all owe SCO $1399 for your Mandrake

2003-08-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 06 Aug 2003 2:29 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 22:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Wednesday 06 Aug 2003 1:22 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
   I'll give them some money when they pay me for submitting bug
   reports back in 1990 for SCO XENIX...or if Darl McBride flies
   out here and cuts my lawn...other than that, they're getting
   blood from a stone.
 
  I'll cut your lawn for $1399 g
 
  Anne

 Good. December and January are our hottest months - you have to use
 the push mower I bought for five dollars at the market, in a pair
 of $2 sandals, on a 45 degree slope, with a beer in one hand -
 right after a drizzle - mind you, one acre.

Deal off - I don't like beer g

Anne

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] firestarter and open ports

2003-08-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 06 Aug 2003 3:16 pm, Bill Winegarden wrote:
 Hi,
   Using a trick that I learned on this list, (ip in mail headers) I
 tried to connect to your web server. I am presented with a username
 / password prompt. Also, your ftp server is accepting connections
 but it will not accept anonymous connections.
   Just an update.

Thinking about this, configuration is done via a browser, so the 
router is serving pages for that purpose.  Right?

But why an ftp server.  I can see an ftp client, since it needs to be 
able to download flash updates, but server?

Anne

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] hdd copying VERY slow

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday August 11 2003 02:49 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
 WD 120 gb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# hdparm -tT /dev/hda

 /dev/hda:
  Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  0.19 seconds =673.68
 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  1.45 seconds =
 44.14 MB/sec


 No idea if thats normal or good or bad.. i dunno what i'm looking
 for..so thought i'd throw this in  ask. :)

 I ran the test 3 times too... thats the last reading.

   Average is important, over 5 or 6 runs. But those numbers are 
very good. Mine average 650/47. The highest I've seen is 698/48.

   OTOH, the latest hdparm-5.4-2mdk uses bigger, different tests. It 
measures T over 2 seconds, about 1200 to 1300mb rather than the old 
128mb test. Similarly with t, it measures over 3 seconds, about 
140+ mb's, rather than 64mb. So the numbers might not be all that 
comparable. I've tested with the old and new hdparm tho, and the t 
number, the important one, Timing buffered disk reads is constant 
... 47+ mb/sec. I suspect the new hdparm is more accurate.
-- 
Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


RE: [newbie] [OT]:CD tray doesn't eject

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 01:25, Sabin, Matthew wrote:
 There's always the shove an un-bent paperclip ito the eject hole
 method.
 
 Poke a paper clip into the hole while the system's off and it will
 release and force open the tray.  Stick in your Mandrake CD and go.
 
 If you still can't eject after an OS is running and every thing else
 is right, your drive may need replacing.
 
 --Matthew

Open a terminal and type:

killall -KILL fam

Once that's done, type:

eject

You might be surprised at the results, mate.

-- 
Fri Aug  8 09:20:00 EST 2003
 09:20:00 up 4 days, 13:08,  1 user,  load average: 1.30, 1.06, 1.09
-
|____  |kuhn media australia|
|   /-oo /| |'-.   |http://kma.0catch.com   |
|  .\__/ || |   |  ||
|   _ /  `._ \|_|_.-'  |stephen kuhn|
|  | /  \__.`=._) (_   | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
-
  linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+  RH 9  
  Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586
-
 * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer *

The answer to the question of Life, the Universe, and Everything is...

Four day work week,
Two ply toilet paper!

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


[newbie] Beonex

2003-08-14 Thread Toran Korshnah
MM,

i used Beonex Communicator for the first time.
It seems to be more secure than Mozilla and honestly, installing Java2 and 
Flash were as easy as under windows.
Great browser, that Beonex!

BB,

Toran
MD 9.1-user

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Beonex

2003-08-14 Thread Ben
On Tuesday 05 August 2003 06:45, Toran Korshnah wrote:
 MM,

 i used Beonex Communicator for the first time.
 It seems to be more secure than Mozilla and honestly, installing Java2 and
 Flash were as easy as under windows.
 Great browser, that Beonex!

 BB,

 Toran
 MD 9.1-user


Maybe I'm showing my ignorance here, but I don't get it. How is Beonex more 
secure than Mozilla 1.4? This version of Beonex Communicator bases on the 
source code of Mozilla 1.0.2. This is from 
http://www.beonex.com/communicator/version/0.8/
Since it's built in an older mozilla engine, how is it better? IMHO, the 
binaries for flash and java are just as easy to install for the latest build 
of Mozilla. If I'm missing something, please tell me. Just wondering. 
Thanks!


-- 
Ben Reeves

He who knows much about others is learned, but he who understands himself is 
more intelligent. He who  
 controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier 
still.  
- Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] hdd copying VERY slow

2003-08-14 Thread David E. Fox
 -X69 - TRANSFER_MODE - this is a relatively generic setting that I've
 been using - you can use 68, 67, 69 or 70 - but I've found that 69 is
 best (not a joke, y'all) - here is from the man page:

Oh I see now. -X says DANGEROUS on the hdparm man page. But
it might be OK. Since you've worked with a number of drives then 
I guess it is all right. I went ahead and put it on /dev/hdb and it's a
little bit faster:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# hdparm -Tt /dev/hdb

/dev/hdb:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   232 MB in  2.00 seconds = 116.00 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:   72 MB in  3.06 seconds =  23.53 MB/sec

But of course, I'm downloading, transcoding a dvd with dvd:rip, and
doing other stuff too. So it's bound to be a little bit low. I'd expect
excess of 35-40 on IDE with bus speed 66. Is that not unreasonable?


David E. Fox  Thanks for letting me
[EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   on your hard disk.
---

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] hdd copying VERY slow

2003-08-14 Thread ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 16:31, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 05:49, Heather/Femme wrote:
 
  /dev/hda:
   Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  0.19 seconds =673.68 MB/sec
   Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  1.45 seconds = 44.14 MB/sec
  
  
  No idea if thats normal or good or bad.. i dunno what i'm looking
  for..so thought i'd throw this in  ask. :)
  
  I ran the test 3 times too... thats the last reading.
 
 Since it's on YOUR computer, it's bad.

but is that bad, like really good, like that sure is a bad hot rod, or
bad like nasty, as in when you are good you are good, but when you are
bad you are really good, or bad like foul, as in that Avocado has
gone bad.


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


  1   2   3   4   5   6   >