Re: [newbie] Font spacing in kword in M9.1

2003-12-05 Thread John Richard Smith
Anne Wilson wrote:

On Thursday 04 Dec 2003 9:53 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

How do you reset the spacing between characters in kword ?

I need to increase the spacing from the current default setting
which virtually merges them.
I'm not talking about line spacing.
John
   

I don;t think you can adjust spacing at all.  Which font are you using 
John?  I use Sans, regular, 10 pt, and everything is very easy to 
read.

Anne

I usually adopt helvetica, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. 
It looks reasonable on screen, I say reasonable,though perhaps still a 
little close, but in print preview, and actual print off, it is all too 
close set to be easily readable. I never had this problem before.

John

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Re: [newbie] Font spacing in kword in M9.1

2003-12-05 Thread John Richard Smith
Mark Kirschner wrote:

John asked:
How do you reset the spacing between characters in kword ?
I need to increase the spacing from the current default setting which
virtually merges them.
I'm not talking about line spacing.
Just did a check in Kword myself.  There doesn't appear to be a way.
Unfortunately, word processors (across the spectrum) seem to have 
dropped the ability to adjust this.

Mark
 

Have they dropped this spacing feature, that's odd , I wonder how you 
are supposed to cope.

John

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Re: [newbie] Font spacing in kword in M9.1

2003-12-05 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 6:27 am, John Richard Smith wrote:

 I usually adopt helvetica, but it doesn't seem to make any
 difference. It looks reasonable on screen, I say reasonable,though
 perhaps still a little close, but in print preview, and actual
 print off, it is all too close set to be easily readable. I never
 had this problem before.

Very strange.  I used to have that problem in OOWriter under 9.0, but 
I never use that now, so I don't know whether it's a problem in this 
release.  I've never had it in KWord, though.  Have you tried 
checking your printer setup, especially if it has only just started 
happening?  I would look in printerdrake, in CUPS admin and in xpp, 
as each seems to be good at some things and not at others.  I'd also 
try installing another instance of the printer, configure it slightly 
different from the other one, and try a new print.

Anne
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Linux 9.1, The Best Operating System

2003-12-05 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 04 Dec 2003 11:06 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 Mandrake Linux 9.1 was chosen as the best operating system and won
 the Prêmio Info 2003, an annual Brazilian award given to the best
 IT companies.

 JM

Good news, indeed

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Re: [newbie] Kmail hangs - finding files

2003-12-05 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 04 Dec 2003 9:20 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:

 DJ  And BTW: Before Anne asks. Yes I have updated the TWiki

 lol

eg

And BTW, this DJ quoting does come out peculiarly if the line length 
is slightly different -

DJ  I just wanted to get over the point that if the user leaves the 
system
 as DJ  default then their jobs will never get done if they switch 
off at
 night. DJ
DJ  derek

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Re: [newbie] How to get Wine working? [SOLVED]

2003-12-05 Thread Marco Verheul
 Hi Marco,

 The Wine on the 9.1 CDs is very old (new releases come out monthly).
 Wines compiled for Mandrake can be found at

 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6241

 I'm not sure about the status of the November wine. There have been
 a number of complaints on the wine users mailing list about the
 Mandrake binary. However, I installed the October Mandrake binary
 successfully, so I know that one will install properly on a 9.1 system.

 I agree with cdrack's advice about using Winesetuptk to configure
 it. There is a new Winesetuptk at the site I listed above. One of
 its benefits is that it takes advantage of all the new stuff in the
 latest Wine releases. I installed it and thought it did a great job
 of installing all my media for Wine's use.

 Since Wine is alpha software, there is no guarantee that it will run
 your application. Winehq maintains a database of applications that have
 been tried with Wine (both successfully and unsuccessfully). You might
 look there to see if anyone has tried to use TopStyle with Wine.

 http://appdb.winehq.com

 Also, it is important to remove your current installation of Wine
 before installing another one. You can easily do this through the
 Mandrake Control Center.

 Good luck,
 deedee

Thanks,

I found the November Wine at source forge and it installed without a
problem. It even includes winesetuptk, so configuring went pretty smooth.
I even installed TopStyle and got it running quite easily.

I'm not at my own PC at the moment, but I will send another message later
explaining what I did to get it working, so others can benefit from it.

Bye, Marco

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Re: [newbie] NVIDIA driver pops up its ugly head

2003-12-05 Thread Drew Martin
HarM,
 I have only just caught up with this thread.I use the same graphics
card.Which I set up with the NVIDIA run. driver and complied the kernel.
 Would you like me to copy and paste the config 4 file,so you can
compare them?
Drew
- Original Message - 
From: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] NVIDIA driver pops up its ugly head


 On Thursday 04 December 2003 17:11, JoeHill wrote:
  On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:55:57 +0100
 
  H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'm beginning to think it's either the card itself or the GLX rpm.
 
  *Sometimes*, for some weird reason, you have to put the complete path to
  the GLX library, so where it says:
 
  Load glx # 3D layer
 
  ...you may need to put:
 
  Load /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so
 Yo, that line was there in the first place, I commented it out and added
the
 Load glx line and checked the XFreelogs.libgl.so loads from the same
 location, that's not it.

 It's vexing...could be a permission thingy but I wouldn't know any other
than
 dri in /etc/console.perms.

 Good luck,
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[newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread John Richard Smith
Today I had a complete computer failure, nothing, not even a bios boot 
screen.

I downloaded a whole batch of emails, dealt with them, and went away 
leaving d4x downloading a file.

When I came back, nothing but a blank screen, I touched a key, and a 
mandrake boot script appears, hung at fsck, y/n , I say yes, it 
completes the fsck and then hangs again.Nothing  further , just a blank 
black screen , no script at all.

Panic,

Ctrl+alt+del ineffective
alt+SysRq+B ineffective
Have to shut power off(reset buttlon ineffectual)
I power up again, and nothing but a blank black screen not even a bios 
boot screen, and in addition 4 red LED mobo display which manual say's

4 RED LED's = System Power On, The D-LED will hang here if processor is 
damaged or not installed Properly.

This suggest's that it's curtains for my processor, AMD Athlon Palamino, 
but before I condem it and go rushing off to replace it I thought I had 
better ask first if there is anything I should do to test it first.

Any suggestions welcomed, as this is my first processor failure.

John.




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Re: [newbie] NVIDIA driver pops up its ugly head

2003-12-05 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 05 December 2003 09:58, Drew Martin wrote:
 HarM,
  I have only just caught up with this thread.I use the same
 graphics card.Which I set up with the NVIDIA run. driver and complied the
 kernel. Would you like me to copy and paste the config 4 file,so you can
 compare them?
 Drew

Thanks for offering:)
No I don't think that'll be of much use...I'm pretty sure it's the way my 
kernel (2.4.22-10mdk) handles the modules.
All the problems are reproduced on different (3) installs so I'm actually 
surprised no-one else has had these issues.

Looks like I'll first test -run 9.1 to see if that'll play nicely with the 
card...it could be the card itself.
It's been sitting in a box on  the shelf for over year now, so actually I'd be 
surprised if it was broke.

Good luck,
HarM

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[newbie] Hardware Advice Please

2003-12-05 Thread poogle
My partner needs a cheap PC at work, a local supplier offers a base unit as 
below for £175 +vat - it appears just what they need, the intention is to 
install 9.1. The PC will be used mainly for sending/receiving e mail and 
occasional web browsing, I intend that they use OO for word processing.
The spec is as below, can anybody alert me to any issues which could cause 
problems (I don't believe the onboard modem will work but that's no problem 
as it can be disabled in favour of their existing external modem). I only 
have a couple of days to decide...  AND get it running - no pressure there 
then :-)

The Spec
MB is ECS K7SOM+   Sis 640/750
AMD2000
Sound  C-media 9738 (not an issue they don't need it)
64mbVid on board SiS 640/750, AGP/Sis  Driver
56kModem on board PCTel AMR/CNR
NetCard on board SiS PCI Fast EthernetAdapter(not needed)
20gb
256DDR

Apologies for cross-posting but I do need to know quickly
thanks

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Re: [newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread Robin Turner
John Richard Smith wrote:
Today I had a complete computer failure, nothing, not even a bios boot 
screen.

I downloaded a whole batch of emails, dealt with them, and went away 
leaving d4x downloading a file.

When I came back, nothing but a blank screen, I touched a key, and a 
mandrake boot script appears, hung at fsck, y/n , I say yes, it 
completes the fsck and then hangs again.Nothing  further , just a blank 
black screen , no script at all.

Panic,

Ctrl+alt+del ineffective
alt+SysRq+B ineffective
Have to shut power off(reset buttlon ineffectual)
I power up again, and nothing but a blank black screen not even a bios 
boot screen, and in addition 4 red LED mobo display which manual say's

4 RED LED's = System Power On, The D-LED will hang here if processor is 
damaged or not installed Properly.

This suggest's that it's curtains for my processor, AMD Athlon Palamino, 
but before I condem it and go rushing off to replace it I thought I had 
better ask first if there is anything I should do to test it first.

Any suggestions welcomed, as this is my first processor failure.


It does sound like your processor could be dead, but it could also be a 
mobo or graphic card problem.  Could even be something as simple as a 
loose connection.

Have you tried re-flashing the BIOS?

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread John Richard Smith
Robin Turner wrote:

John Richard Smith wrote:

Today I had a complete computer failure, nothing, not even a bios 
boot screen.

I downloaded a whole batch of emails, dealt with them, and went away 
leaving d4x downloading a file.

When I came back, nothing but a blank screen, I touched a key, and a 
mandrake boot script appears, hung at fsck, y/n , I say yes, it 
completes the fsck and then hangs again.Nothing  further , just a 
blank black screen , no script at all.

Panic,

Ctrl+alt+del ineffective
alt+SysRq+B ineffective
Have to shut power off(reset buttlon ineffectual)
I power up again, and nothing but a blank black screen not even a 
bios boot screen, and in addition 4 red LED mobo display which manual 
say's

4 RED LED's = System Power On, The D-LED will hang here if processor 
is damaged or not installed Properly.

This suggest's that it's curtains for my processor, AMD Athlon 
Palamino, but before I condem it and go rushing off to replace it I 
thought I had better ask first if there is anything I should do to 
test it first.

Any suggestions welcomed, as this is my first processor failure.


It does sound like your processor could be dead, but it could also be 
a mobo or graphic card problem.  Could even be something as simple as 
a loose connection.

Have you tried re-flashing the BIOS?

Sir Robin





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I cann't even get into bios, that is the problem. By flash I guess you 
mean reset the bios and make it redetect ?

John





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Re: [newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread John Richard Smith
Robin Turner wrote:

 John Richard Smith wrote:

 Today I had a complete computer failure, nothing, not even a bios
 boot screen.


 I downloaded a whole batch of emails, dealt with them, and went 
away
 leaving d4x downloading a file.

 When I came back, nothing but a blank screen, I touched a key, 
and a
 mandrake boot script appears, hung at fsck, y/n , I say yes, it
 completes the fsck and then hangs again.Nothing  further , just a
 blank black screen , no script at all.

 Panic,

 Ctrl+alt+del ineffective
 alt+SysRq+B ineffective
 Have to shut power off(reset buttlon ineffectual)

 I power up again, and nothing but a blank black screen not even a
 bios boot screen, and in addition 4 red LED mobo display which 
manual
 say's

 4 RED LED's = System Power On, The D-LED will hang here if 
processor
 is damaged or not installed Properly.

 This suggest's that it's curtains for my processor, AMD Athlon
 Palamino, but before I condem it and go rushing off to replace it I
 thought I had better ask first if there is anything I should do to
 test it first.

 Any suggestions welcomed, as this is my first processor failure.



 It does sound like your processor could be dead, but it could 
also be
 a mobo or graphic card problem.  Could even be something as 
simple as
 a loose connection.

 Have you tried re-flashing the BIOS?

 Sir Robin





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I cann't even get into bios, that is the problem. By flash I guess you
mean reset the bios and make it redetect ?

John

I might add that I do have power supply , it seems like everything 
that needs it is getting power,though since I cannot get into bios I 
cannot tell what may be dead.

If I had harddrive failure you would still be able to get into bios
If I have monitor failure  , that could be a possibility, though it 
does say no signal and the neon led lights up, which to my mind 
indicates it wants to work.
If I had a graphic's card failure I ought to be able to get into 
bios at least ?
If Mobo then I guess it has to be a real possility. Anything there 
could block my access to bios for instance ??

John





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Re: [newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread John Richard Smith
I cann't even get into bios, that is the problem. By flash I guess you
mean reset the bios and make it redetect ?
John

I might add that I do have power supply , it seems like everything
that needs it is getting power,though since I cannot get into bios I
cannot tell what may be dead.
If I had harddrive failure you would still be able to get into bios
If I have monitor failure  , that could be a possibility, though it
does say no signal and the neon led lights up, which to my mind
indicates it wants to work.
If I had a graphic's card failure I ought to be able to get into
bios at least ?
If Mobo then I guess it has to be a real possility. Anything there
could block my access to bios for instance ??
John



Well I'm blowed. I'm back up to desktop.

I  kept on powering on and off and eventually it booted.

Now that is a mystery to me.

In a way I don't like that situation, could happen again.

I'm resting on the thesis that I must of had a momentary powercut 
this morning that crashed everything, the first reboot was automatic 
and ended in a post fsck hangup for some unknown reason, which I 
then shutdown hard, and for some reason that seems to of screwed the 
bios detection process for a while .Odd though.

I think i need to start doing some testing ?

John




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Re: [newbie] Testing Procmail Whitelist

2003-12-05 Thread Margot
Todd Slater wrote:
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 08:43:18PM -0500, Charles A Edwards wrote:

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:30:26 -0500
JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Viagra!
Penis


DON'T LOSE ANY MORE MONEY ON YOUR EXISTING HOME LOAN!

Todd

Paris Hilton video - why do people keep offering me a video of a hotel?

Margot


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Re: [newbie] Testing Procmail Whitelist

2003-12-05 Thread John Richard Smith
Margot wrote:

Todd Slater wrote:

On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 08:43:18PM -0500, Charles A Edwards wrote:

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:30:26 -0500
JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Viagra!


Penis


DON'T LOSE ANY MORE MONEY ON YOUR EXISTING HOME LOAN!

Todd

Paris Hilton video - why do people keep offering me a video of a hotel?

Margot 




You too,  

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Re: [newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread John Richard Smith
I cann't even get into bios, that is the problem. By flash I guess you
mean reset the bios and make it redetect ?
John

I might add that I do have power supply , it seems like everything
that needs it is getting power,though since I cannot get into bios I
cannot tell what may be dead.
If I had harddrive failure you would still be able to get into bios
If I have monitor failure  , that could be a possibility, though it
does say no signal and the neon led lights up, which to my mind
indicates it wants to work.
If I had a graphic's card failure I ought to be able to get into
bios at least ?
If Mobo then I guess it has to be a real possility. Anything there
could block my access to bios for instance ??
John



Well I'm blowed. I'm back up to desktop.

I  kept on powering on and off and eventually it booted.

Now that is a mystery to me.

In a way I don't like that situation, could happen again.

I'm resting on the thesis that I must of had a momentary powercut
this morning that crashed everything, the first reboot was automatic
and ended in a post fsck hangup for some unknown reason, which I
then shutdown hard, and for some reason that seems to of screwed the
bios detection process for a while .Odd though.
I think i need to start doing some testing ?

John

I think I have found the problem.

My graphics card , gforce3 has a small fan on it and it's hardly 
turning at all. I bet that is the problem, can one buy replacements?

John



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[newbie] Script in the init dir

2003-12-05 Thread Alexandre Aractingi
I can't seem to be able to run a script when my machine boots up... I
copied it in /etc/init.d/ though, and I can run it from the shell
(/etc/init.d/myscript start), but it's not launched at boot time. Am I
missing something here?
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Re: [newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread et
On Friday 05 December 2003 09:05 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Today I had a complete computer failure, nothing, not even a bios boot
 screen.


 I downloaded a whole batch of emails, dealt with them, and went away
 leaving d4x downloading a file.

 When I came back, nothing but a blank screen, I touched a key, and a
 mandrake boot script appears, hung at fsck, y/n , I say yes, it
 completes the fsck and then hangs again.Nothing  further , just a blank
 black screen , no script at all.

 Panic,

 Ctrl+alt+del ineffective
 alt+SysRq+B ineffective
 Have to shut power off(reset buttlon ineffectual)

 I power up again, and nothing but a blank black screen not even a bios
 boot screen, and in addition 4 red LED mobo display which manual say's

 4 RED LED's = System Power On, The D-LED will hang here if processor is
 damaged or not installed Properly.

 This suggest's that it's curtains for my processor, AMD Athlon Palamino,
 but before I condem it and go rushing off to replace it I thought I had
 better ask first if there is anything I should do to test it first.

 Any suggestions welcomed, as this is my first processor failure.


 John.
probly 'lunched' (as in 'something ate your cpu for lunch) it, but let it cool 
down for a day, blow everything in the case out with canned air, disconnect 
all the drives. this may just be a powersupply crapping out.  


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Re: [newbie] Script in the init dir

2003-12-05 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 07:50, Alexandre Aractingi wrote:
 I can't seem to be able to run a script when my machine boots up... I
 copied it in /etc/init.d/ though, and I can run it from the shell
 (/etc/init.d/myscript start), but it's not launched at boot time. Am I
 missing something here?
 Thanks,

Startup scripts has to follow some rules. For example, it is mandatory
to have a coupe of lines hinting default runlevels and priority at start
up and shutdown. Something like:

# chkconfig: 2345 90 20
# description: A comment to describe what this script does.

You have to handle at least the cases to start and stop the service you
are dealing with this script.

OTOH, if you are trying to start a program, not a service, you better
use rc.local.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread et
On Friday 05 December 2003 10:48 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Robin Turner wrote:
   John Richard Smith wrote:
   Today I had a complete computer failure, nothing, not even a bios
   boot screen.
  
  
   I downloaded a whole batch of emails, dealt with them, and went

 away

   leaving d4x downloading a file.
  
   When I came back, nothing but a blank screen, I touched a key,

 and a

   mandrake boot script appears, hung at fsck, y/n , I say yes, it
   completes the fsck and then hangs again.Nothing  further , just a
   blank black screen , no script at all.
  
   Panic,
  
   Ctrl+alt+del ineffective
   alt+SysRq+B ineffective
   Have to shut power off(reset buttlon ineffectual)
  
   I power up again, and nothing but a blank black screen not even a
   bios boot screen, and in addition 4 red LED mobo display which

 manual

   say's
  
   4 RED LED's = System Power On, The D-LED will hang here if

 processor

   is damaged or not installed Properly.
  
   This suggest's that it's curtains for my processor, AMD Athlon
   Palamino, but before I condem it and go rushing off to replace it I
   thought I had better ask first if there is anything I should do to
   test it first.
  
   Any suggestions welcomed, as this is my first processor failure.
  
   It does sound like your processor could be dead, but it could

 also be

   a mobo or graphic card problem.  Could even be something as

 simple as

   a loose connection.
  
   Have you tried re-flashing the BIOS?
  
   Sir Robin
  
  
  
  
  
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 I cann't even get into bios, that is the problem. By flash I guess you
 mean reset the bios and make it redetect ?

 John


 I might add that I do have power supply , it seems like everything
 that needs it is getting power,though since I cannot get into bios I
 cannot tell what may be dead.

 If I had harddrive failure you would still be able to get into bios
 If I have monitor failure  , that could be a possibility, though it
 does say no signal and the neon led lights up, which to my mind
 indicates it wants to work.
 If I had a graphic's card failure I ought to be able to get into
 bios at least ?
 If Mobo then I guess it has to be a real possility. Anything there
 could block my access to bios for instance ??

 John
lack of proper voltages from the power supply, no memory, no CPU, hard drive 
cable installed backwards (I know, but _I_ have done it more than 1 time, but 
on old computers like 486s) and a disconnected cable on the video card to 
monitor would all produce what you are describing, from the monitors view.  


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Re: [newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread et
On Friday 05 December 2003 11:14 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 I cann't even get into bios, that is the problem. By flash I guess you
 mean reset the bios and make it redetect ?

 John


 I might add that I do have power supply , it seems like everything
 that needs it is getting power,though since I cannot get into bios I
 cannot tell what may be dead.

 If I had harddrive failure you would still be able to get into bios
 If I have monitor failure  , that could be a possibility, though it
 does say no signal and the neon led lights up, which to my mind
 indicates it wants to work.
 If I had a graphic's card failure I ought to be able to get into
 bios at least ?
 If Mobo then I guess it has to be a real possility. Anything there
 could block my access to bios for instance ??

 John



 Well I'm blowed. I'm back up to desktop.

 I  kept on powering on and off and eventually it booted.

 Now that is a mystery to me.

 In a way I don't like that situation, could happen again.

 I'm resting on the thesis that I must of had a momentary powercut
 this morning that crashed everything, the first reboot was automatic
 and ended in a post fsck hangup for some unknown reason, which I
 then shutdown hard, and for some reason that seems to of screwed the
 bios detection process for a while .Odd though.

 I think i need to start doing some testing ?

 John
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Re: [newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread et
On Friday 05 December 2003 11:49 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 I cann't even get into bios, that is the problem. By flash I guess you
 mean reset the bios and make it redetect ?

 John


 I might add that I do have power supply , it seems like everything
 that needs it is getting power,though since I cannot get into bios I
 cannot tell what may be dead.

 If I had harddrive failure you would still be able to get into bios
 If I have monitor failure  , that could be a possibility, though it
 does say no signal and the neon led lights up, which to my mind
 indicates it wants to work.
 If I had a graphic's card failure I ought to be able to get into
 bios at least ?
 If Mobo then I guess it has to be a real possility. Anything there
 could block my access to bios for instance ??

 John



 Well I'm blowed. I'm back up to desktop.

 I  kept on powering on and off and eventually it booted.

 Now that is a mystery to me.

 In a way I don't like that situation, could happen again.

 I'm resting on the thesis that I must of had a momentary powercut
 this morning that crashed everything, the first reboot was automatic
 and ended in a post fsck hangup for some unknown reason, which I
 then shutdown hard, and for some reason that seems to of screwed the
 bios detection process for a while .Odd though.

 I think i need to start doing some testing ?

 John

 I think I have found the problem.

 My graphics card , gforce3 has a small fan on it and it's hardly
 turning at all. I bet that is the problem, can one buy replacements?

 John
yes. send us a picture of the fan you get for it. however, while I ain't sure 
about your particular card, I do know some fans have a control circuit that 
makes the fan run faster when there is more heat. I still think you need to 
blow out the power supply fan. 


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Re: [newbie] Script in the init dir

2003-12-05 Thread Alexandre Aractingi
Le ven 05/12/2003 à 13:12, Adolfo Bello a écrit :
 Startup scripts has to follow some rules. For example, it is mandatory
 to have a coupe of lines hinting default runlevels and priority at start
 up and shutdown. Something like:
 
 # chkconfig: 2345 90 20
 # description: A comment to describe what this script does.
 
 You have to handle at least the cases to start and stop the service you
 are dealing with this script.
 
 OTOH, if you are trying to start a program, not a service, you better
 use rc.local.

Thanks for your explanations! I'll do that!

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[newbie] pmsuspend2 writing to wrong partition

2003-12-05 Thread drew
hi,
i have an hp pavilion xt118.
i am currently running mdk9.2 and am trying to get swsusp to work.
when i try it it goes down ok but reboot is slow and comes back with no
mouse or keyboard.  in my searches i have heard that if you use a
seperate swap partition (one that isnt being used for ram) for suspend
it works ok. 
i would like to know if this is true and how to do it. i made a new swap
partition and changed the resume=hda() line in the boot section to point
to the new partition but i dont know how to make pmsuspend2 write to
that swap partition because it only wants to write to the original swap
at hda5, not the new one at hda8.
thanks in advance,
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Re: [newbie] Testing Procmail Whitelist

2003-12-05 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:41:05 -0400
Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It was filtered, didn't it?
 
 You have to change:
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 to
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Actually, the way I did it worked, but yes, yours would be more accurate.

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Re: [newbie] Testing Procmail Whitelist

2003-12-05 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:15:39 -0500
Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Viagra!
  
  Penis
 
 DON'T LOSE ANY MORE MONEY ON YOUR EXISTING HOME LOAN!

ROTFLMAO! Thanks guys, really funny stuff. Jeez, what would I do without this
list. The technical help is great, but the humour is still the best part...

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Re: [newbie] Testing Procmail Whitelist

2003-12-05 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:38:39 +
Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Paris Hilton video - why do people keep offering me a video of a hotel?

LOL! What don't you get a chill watching video of a static object? It's the
latest in porn...

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Re: [newbie] Script in the init dir

2003-12-05 Thread Raffaele Belardi
I thought that the start and stop priority were provided by the 
/etc/rcx.d/ symlink names, i.e.

S03iptables
S10network
starts iptables before network. Are those two lines relly needed by rc 
script, or by some other configuration utility?

thanks,

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 07:50, Alexandre Aractingi wrote:

I can't seem to be able to run a script when my machine boots up... I
copied it in /etc/init.d/ though, and I can run it from the shell
(/etc/init.d/myscript start), but it's not launched at boot time. Am I
missing something here?
Thanks,


Startup scripts has to follow some rules. For example, it is mandatory
to have a coupe of lines hinting default runlevels and priority at start
up and shutdown. Something like:
# chkconfig: 2345 90 20
# description: A comment to describe what this script does.
You have to handle at least the cases to start and stop the service you
are dealing with this script.
OTOH, if you are trying to start a program, not a service, you better
use rc.local.
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[newbie] Cannot Kill Galeon

2003-12-05 Thread JoeHill

Ya, I know, Galeon's been a beotch of late, very buggy, but I do love it so...

Anyhow, normally when it freezes and/or starts eating up my proc time, I just
kill it like so (as root):

kill -9 `pidof galeon-bin`

and all is well.

Not so this time. It just *will not* die.

I thought 9 was the most deadly, is there something else more potent?

I'd try dropping out of X, but I got this download goin' in GTK-Gnutella that I
don't want to interrupt... ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Cannot Kill Galeon

2003-12-05 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 05 December 2003 08:28 am, JoeHill wrote:

Jo  I'd try dropping out of X, but I got this download goin' in GTK-Gnutella
 that I Jo  don't want to interrupt... ;-)
Jo

Have you tried killall -9 galeon? That usually does it. If not from a shell, 
then hit control esc and see if its listed as a zombie process and kill 
it from the KDE System Guard screen.

Er...wait a minute - you don't use KDE do ya? Oh well...

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Re: [newbie] NVIDIA driver pops up its ugly head

2003-12-05 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 04 December 2003 09:09 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

H.  Hehehehh, are you getting back at me for criticizing yer reply
 settings?;D 

grin Of course not!

 H.  shocking mess: no more user/lib/module.deps (or something
 along that line) H.  and an unworkable system:(
H.  Luckily I can boot from another partition that has / mirrored so no real
H.  damage except me losing an hour or 2.
H.
H.  What a mess:(
H.
H.  Good luck,
H.  HarM

Oh man, I'm sorry! Thats not what usually happens. :-(

I'm certainly glad you had it mirrored though.

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Re: [newbie] Script in the init dir

2003-12-05 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 09:27, Raffaele Belardi wrote:
 I thought that the start and stop priority were provided by the 
 /etc/rcx.d/ symlink names, i.e.
 
 S03iptables
 S10network
 
 starts iptables before network. Are those two lines relly needed by rc 
 script, or by some other configuration utility?
 
 thanks,
 
 raffaele

chkconfig uses that line (the # chkconfig one) to create the symlinks.

For more information, take a look at the RUNLEVEL FILES section in man
chkconfg.

Saludos,

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Re: [newbie] Where on Twiki is the win/lin app list?

2003-12-05 Thread Tango Echo

--- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 05 Dec 2003 2:46 pm, Tango Echo wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I started with a quest to find a better OCR
 program
  then the version of Kooka that's included in 9.1. 
 I
  recall a table of applications on Twiki (at least
 I
  think it was there) that listed the comparison. 
 Like
  for example, you would look for Quickbooks under
  windows and next to it would be Gnucash.  I
 searched
  Twiki but couldn't't find it... Can any of you
 point
  me in the right direction? Also, if you happen to
 know
  of a good OCR program I'd love to hear about it =)
 
  Tango
 
 Tango, I don't recall ever seeing anything like
 that, but it's an 
 excellent idea.  I think we should start it right
 now.
 
 As for OCR, I've not tried it, but XSane has an
 option to scan to OCR, 
 I think.
 
 Anne
 -- 

Ah ha! Found it...  Here's the url:

http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/#1

It appears to be an excellent resource.  Perhaps if
this goes on up on Twiki, we could put an astrisk next
to each piece of software that is Mandrake supported. 
For example if Gnucash is available from the mandrake
contrib (or perhaps other mirrors) we could put a *
next to it.  Then people know they only need to urpmi
the app name to grab it.  If we really wanted to get
fancy we could have the * hyperlinked to a page that
listed the Mandrake versions that support the app.  So
we could setup 3 pages for example:
1 - 9.2
2 - 9.2, 9.1
3 - 9.2 9.1 8.2
Then depending upon the support of the app, we
hyperlink the * to 1, 2, or 3.  Just some thoughts

I tried xsane with not much more luck then Kooka. 
Basically it identified some characters that Kooka
didn't, but didn't recgonize some that Kooka did. 
Perhaps I should start a new thread to see what others
are doing for OCR.  There's gotta be something better!
 Although Kooka and Xsane were really the only free
OCR apps on that list...



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Re: [newbie] Where on Twiki is the win/lin app list?

2003-12-05 Thread et
On Friday 05 December 2003 02:52 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 05 Dec 2003 2:46 pm, Tango Echo wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I started with a quest to find a better OCR program
  then the version of Kooka that's included in 9.1.  I
  recall a table of applications on Twiki (at least I
  think it was there) that listed the comparison.  Like
  for example, you would look for Quickbooks under
  windows and next to it would be Gnucash.  I searched
  Twiki but couldn't't find it... Can any of you point
  me in the right direction? Also, if you happen to know
  of a good OCR program I'd love to hear about it =)
 
  Tango

 Tango, I don't recall ever seeing anything like that, but it's an
 excellent idea.  I think we should start it right now.

 As for OCR, I've not tried it, but XSane has an option to scan to OCR,
 I think.

 Anne
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RE: [newbie] Where on Twiki is the win/lin app list?

2003-12-05 Thread Tango Echo
-Original Message-
From: et [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Where on Twiki is the win/lin
app list?

gocr

Thanks et, but GOCR is what Kooka uses.  Unfortunately
there doesnt' appear to be an update either... =/

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[newbie] Ping Derek

2003-12-05 Thread Teilhard Knight
I have been having problems with receiving from the list, and with searching
for another addy.

If you posted a reply of my last post, I would appreciate if you could post
it again. It seems I am receiving now. If you would click in reply all I
would have a copy as a personal email, which would be cool.

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RE: [newbie] menu/rpm bug update

2003-12-05 Thread Mark Kirschner
Eric Huff said: 
There was another update on the menu bug.  If interested, i added
the 2nd advisory link:

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/FiveStarNews

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Re: [newbie] OT: CSS Editor

2003-12-05 Thread Warren Post
El mié, 03-12-2003 a las 05:27, Marco Verheul escribió:
 Is there a CSS Editor for Linux that comes close to TopStyle?

It's not a TopStyle clone by any means, but I've been using Bluefish
with great success. Now that I'm used to it, I like it better than
TopStyle.

Marco, I think you'll want to fix your reply-to header.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2 won't install

2003-12-05 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday 04 December 2003 05:22 am, Charlie Mahan wrote:

 Thursday 04 December 2003 8:11 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
  On Thursday 04 December 2003 09:50 am, Dan Gordon wrote:
  DG  To check the iso's download the md5sum file from the ftp
   site, I dont DG  remember how to use the file but it checks
   the iso's to verify proper DG  size and stuff.  I had the
   same problem but i got hold of a bad batch of DG  cheap
   cd's (dont buy cheap cd's they suck) and i had only three
   out of DG  20 that were any good.
  DG
  DG  Regards,
  DG  Dan Gordon
  DG

 I always use cheap CD-R disks Dan. From the last spindle (100
 disks, CDN$38.74 incl GST) all of the 700 MB blanks I have
 used so far were between 825 and 913 MB available space. Not
 bad for generic 700 MB High Speed (Max 48X) CD-R Media.

 BTW; only one coaster but that was a result of PEBCAK. ie.: the
 loose nut on the keyboard syndrome.

Can't possibly be more than 702 to 703 MB's. 'Cept for audio 
CD's where 825 to 913 MB's of wav's will fit as long as the total 
playing time of the wav's is = 80 minutes.  I use xmms to check 
playing time. Just hi-lite all the files and the total time is 
displayed.  Overburn will only add about an additional 20 seconds 
(and probly won't work).

Very cheap CDr's is a crap shoot. Often very good disks can be 
obtained, but sometimes they're a real headache. Check for who 
really makes 'em with  'cdrecord -atip dev=0,0,0' (assuming 
burner is scd0).  Good quality burners like Plextor will tolerate 
poor CDr media better than cheap drives like LG. Even with good, 
cheap CDr's tho, the problem remains that the label side coating 
(where the recording is actually done) is most often very thin 
and fragile. Cheap CDr's should not be used for anything you 
wanna keep very long. 

Brands like FujiFilm are very good, they're made by Taiyo-Uden 
(the best manufacturer IMO), and only cost a little more per CDr, 
but hard to find around here. Others are CMC Magnetics (good), 
and Ritek (OK). I just got stuck with 200 TDK blanks ($30/100 on 
sale). Salesman said they were CMC's, -atip says they're 
Ritek's ;(   I knew I should'a got Imation (CMC Mag's) even tho 
they're $42/100.


  Just md5sum name of iso image
 
  the resulting string of numbers should identically match
  whats posted on Mandrakes' web site.

 When you download the ISOs also download the md5sums.asc file.
 Then use the command Ron posted but add a -c flag:

 md5sum -c name of md5sums.asc file

 to do a check against that official check file. It should
 check all the download disks. Do this before burning anything
 unless you don't have enough coasters already. g

 If you've already done the deed (burnt the disk without
 checking) put the disk in your regular read drive and use the
 following command to check. Assumes you have mkcd installed:

 mkcd --checkmd5 /dev/hdX where X is the drive with the install
 disk. You'll have to do that for each disk, the first method is
 faster, checks all disks, and wastes less blanks. (-;

 HTH
 Charlie

'md5sum /dev/scd0' is the most reliable way to check the 
integrity of burned iso's.  The md5sum might not match tho unless 
the iso was burned with DAO (SAO).  EG,
cdrecord -v -eject speed=8 dev=0,0,0 -dao name_of.iso
  Burning at lower speeds, even 4x, is recommended for iso's. In 
any event, speed should not be more than 1/2, the lower of, what 
the media or burner is rated at. IMO, use of GUI programs should 
be avoided. Specially iso's should be burned with the CL. It's 
actually easier than with a GUI anyhow if you make an alias. EG,
  alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject speed=8 dev=0,0,0 -dao'
To burn the iso you simply type 'biso name_of.iso' (just type the 
first 3 or 4 letters of the iso name and hit Tab).  
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[newbie] Re:MDKA-2003:030-1 - Updated rpm packages fix database locking bug

2003-12-05 Thread Ramon PS
Hi.

I had updated my mandrake 9.2 box before this
announcement about the rpm package fix. Thus, how do
I rebuild the contents my lost Gnome's menu?

TIA, -Ramon.


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  Mandrake Linux Update Advisory
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  Package name:   rpm
  Advisory ID:MDKA-2003:030-1
  Date:   December 4th, 2003
  Original Advisory Date: November 18th, 2003
  Affected versions:9.2
  __


  Problem Description:

  A bug was found in the way that rpm locks it's databas
e in that it
  prevents update-
menus from running properly and can cause the loss of
  KDE, GNOME, and other WM menus.

  This package provides a better locking mechanism that
should prevent
  this improper behaviour.

 Update:

  The previous package did not properly clean up the loc
k file when
  issuing a --
rebuilddb.  This has been corrected by these packages
  __


  Updated Packages:

  Mandrake Linux 9.2:
  5a7d4e0190682abe166b17a118190a8e  9.2/RPMS/popt-1.8-
22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm
  efb414e3a448df5fc93b2ea2b406a921  9.2/RPMS/popt-devel-
1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm
  92fcf6313c18cd7a2560a2048413b65f  9.2/RPMS/rpm-4.2-
22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm
  31b96f97bd118da225712fb90e85c530  9.2/RPMS/rpm-build-
4.2-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm
  b4a660755ea552a3a5c0fac6b710aca2  9.2/RPMS/rpm-devel-
4.2-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm
  e22f65d372d51bf2ab7ab3f76514c466  9.2/RPMS/rpm-python-
4.2-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm
  ee86f05cea9c34cb8e5505989d1b6bbc  9.2/SRPMS/rpm-4.2-
22.1.92mdk.src.rpm
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  Bug IDs fixed (see http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com for m
ore information):

   30 -
 Rpm lock on database causes KDE menu to disappear when i
nstalling RPMS
   118 - rpm --rebuilddb error
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  To upgrade automatically use MandrakeUpdate or urpmi.
 The verification
  of md5 checksums and GPG signatures is performed autom
atically for you.

  A list of FTP mirrors can be obtained from:

   http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/ftp.php

  All packages are signed by MandrakeSoft for security.
 You can obtain
  the GPG public key of the Mandrake Linux Security Team
 by executing:

   gpg --recv-keys --
keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net 0x22458A98

  Please be aware that sometimes it takes the mirrors a
few hours to
  update.

  You can view other update advisories for Mandrake Linu
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   http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/

  MandrakeSoft has several security-
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  visiting:

   http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/mlist.php

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Re: [newbie] scrolling in mozilla/firebird eats up cpu

2003-12-05 Thread Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
Todd Slater wrote:
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 08:30:45AM +, John Richard Smith wrote:

Todd Slater wrote:


Scrolling up/down a lengthy web page in Mozilla quickly eats up my cpu
usage. Running top I see that it's both Mozilla and X (moreso X) that's
utilizing the cpu. The machine becomes somewhat sluggish with this,
which is why I've been using dillo.
snip
You're lucky you actually only get it when scrolling. I get it what 
seems to be randomly with Mozilla 1.3.

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Re: [newbie] KWord Spelling

2003-12-05 Thread Keith Powell
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 2:43 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 05 Dec 2003 1:56 pm, Keith Powell wrote:
  Has anyone got the spell checker to work in KWord, please?
 
  I have experimented with various settings in Settings-Configure
  KWord-Spellings.
 
  When it has spell checked the first word, it either won't call up
  the dictionary again, or it crashes with a seg-fault. It won't save
  the settings but keeps reverting to the default ones.
 
  I can't decide if the problem is KWord, or me!
 
  Ispell and Ispell-en are installed, as are Aspell and Aspell-en.
 
  I can't find an answer in the archives.
 
  Many thanks for any advice.
 
  Keith

 I use KWord in 9.1, Keith, and the spelling works fine.  It's set to
 use Aspell Default dictionary, with client set to just Aspell.  HTH

 Anne

Hello Anne

Thanks for the advice.

Sorry, but it doesn't work here :-(

Setting it to Aspell Default dictionary and the Aspell client, causes 
KWord to crash with a signal 11 SIGSEGV error if I try to spell check 
with it. 

Then, when I run KWord again, it's gone back to the English Dictionary, 
US-ASCII encoding and International Ispell client defaults. 

I'm running Mandrake9.2 with KWord1.2.92 

Thanks again, Anne.

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[newbie] Lilo start entries

2003-12-05 Thread Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
Hi,

Just wanting to improve my linux knowledge and so

When I boot I use LiLo to display as I also have a Win95 OS HDD in one
of the IDE chains.
Lilo presents me with the following listing:
Linux
Linux-nonfb
failsafe
dos
floppy
I know that selecting the linux entry will boot my normal linux, the dos
entry will boot up the Win95 OS HDD and the floppy entry will alllow me
to boot off floppy. What about failsafe and linux-nonfb?
 I would asume that failsafe is very similar to the Windows Safe Mode
but the linux-nonfb meaning escapes me.
Any ideas and of course what files to edit using a root Kwrite editor?
I know I can edit the entries in the MCC but I would prefer to do it via
the CLI.
TIA
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[newbie] Mozilla Mail filters

2003-12-05 Thread Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
I am using Mozilla 1.3 and was previously using Mozilla 1.0. I created
many email filters under 1.0 that where consequently imported the 1.3
install. No problem so far..but
I am unable to view/change the details of any of the filters or even add
a new one. I can click on new but I cannot add/edit filter criteria,
only the rules as to what to do with the message when the criteria are met.
I've included a screenshot FYI, but I am not sure if the list will allow it.

Suggestions on how to get the filter criteria back ie uninstall and
reinstall etc?
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Re: [newbie] Testing Procmail Whitelist

2003-12-05 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 11:24, JoeHill wrote:
 On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:30:26 -0500
 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Viagra!
 
 This may be where I need to start learning about locking as well.
 
 I got an error in pmlog at one point:
 
 procmail: Timeout, was waiting for /var/spool/mail/joehill
 
 Am I correct in assuming that this is to do with the fact that my recipe
 referencing /var/spool/mail/joehill:
 
 :0
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 {
   :0
   /var/spool/mail/joehill
 }
 
 is the cause of this, in that it has no lock, ie. the trailing colon after
 :0?

Joe:

You should write that recipe as:

:0
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/var/spool/mail/joehill

From man procmailrc:
===
A  line  starting with ':' marks the beginning of a recipe.  It has the 
following format:

:0 [flags] [ : [locallockfile] ]
zero or more conditions (one per line)
exactly one action line
===

So it looks like the recipe is waiting for an answer from
/var/spool/mail/joehill.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] Re:MDKA-2003:030-1 - Updated rpm packages fix database locking bug

2003-12-05 Thread cdrack

try install any package from the Mdk Cd's and see if
it apears on  youre menu... maybe it recover the lost
ones...
  
 Cdrack.

--- Ramon PS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi.
 
 I had updated my mandrake 9.2 box before this
 announcement about the rpm package fix. Thus, how do
 I rebuild the contents my lost Gnome's menu?
 
 TIA, -Ramon.
 
 
  -- Início da mensagem original ---
   De: Mandrake Linux Security Team
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mandrake.com
 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc:
 Data: 4 Dec 2003 22:59:20 -
  Assunto: MDKA-2003:030-1 -
  Updated rpm packages fix database locking bug
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  

__
 _
 
   Mandrake Linux Update
 Advisory
  

__
 _
 
   Package name:   rpm
   Advisory ID:MDKA-2003:030-1
   Date:   December 4th, 2003
   Original Advisory Date: November 18th, 2003
   Affected versions:  9.2
  

__
 
 
   Problem Description:
 
   A bug was found in the way that rpm locks it's
 databas
 e in that it
   prevents update-
 menus from running properly and can cause the loss
 of
   KDE, GNOME, and other WM menus.
 
   This package provides a better locking mechanism
 that
 should prevent
   this improper behaviour.
 
  Update:
 
   The previous package did not properly clean up
 the loc
 k file when
   issuing a --
 rebuilddb.  This has been corrected by these
 packages
  

__
 
 
   Updated Packages:
 
   Mandrake Linux 9.2:
   5a7d4e0190682abe166b17a118190a8e 
 9.2/RPMS/popt-1.8-
 22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm
   efb414e3a448df5fc93b2ea2b406a921 
 9.2/RPMS/popt-devel-
 1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm
   92fcf6313c18cd7a2560a2048413b65f 
 9.2/RPMS/rpm-4.2-
 22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm
   31b96f97bd118da225712fb90e85c530 
 9.2/RPMS/rpm-build-
 4.2-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm
   b4a660755ea552a3a5c0fac6b710aca2 
 9.2/RPMS/rpm-devel-
 4.2-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm
   e22f65d372d51bf2ab7ab3f76514c466 
 9.2/RPMS/rpm-python-
 4.2-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm
   ee86f05cea9c34cb8e5505989d1b6bbc 
 9.2/SRPMS/rpm-4.2-
 22.1.92mdk.src.rpm
  

__
 _
 
   Bug IDs fixed (see http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com
 for m
 ore information):
 
30 -
  Rpm lock on database causes KDE menu to disappear
 when i
 nstalling RPMS
118 - rpm --rebuilddb error
  

__
 _
 
   To upgrade automatically use MandrakeUpdate or
 urpmi.
  The verification
   of md5 checksums and GPG signatures is performed
 autom
 atically for you.
 
   A list of FTP mirrors can be obtained from:
 
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/ftp.php
 
   All packages are signed by MandrakeSoft for
 security.
  You can obtain
   the GPG public key of the Mandrake Linux Security
 Team
  by executing:
 
gpg --recv-keys --
 keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net 0x22458A98
 
   Please be aware that sometimes it takes the
 mirrors a
 few hours to
   update.
 
   You can view other update advisories for Mandrake
 Linu
 x at:
 
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/
 
   MandrakeSoft has several security-
 related mailing list services that
   anyone can subscribe to.  Information on these
 lists c
 an be obtained by
   visiting:
 
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/mlist.php
 
   If you want to report vulnerabilities, please
 contact
 
security_linux-mandrake.com
 
   Type Bits/KeyID Date   User ID
   pub  1024D/22458A98 2000-07-
 10 Linux Mandrake Security Team
security linux-mandrake.com
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 rEgCfYgn2
  frhIpUE1FfTxkEPXVbACW+k=
  =YoI+
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Re: [newbie] Lilo start entries

2003-12-05 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 06:42, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Just wanting to improve my linux knowledge and so
 
 When I boot I use LiLo to display as I also have a Win95 OS HDD in one
 of the IDE chains.
 
 Lilo presents me with the following listing:
 Linux
 Linux-nonfb
 failsafe
 dos
 floppy
 
 I know that selecting the linux entry will boot my normal linux, the dos
 entry will boot up the Win95 OS HDD and the floppy entry will alllow me
 to boot off floppy. What about failsafe and linux-nonfb?
 
   I would asume that failsafe is very similar to the Windows Safe Mode
 but the linux-nonfb meaning escapes me.

No framebuffer.

 
 Any ideas and of course what files to edit using a root Kwrite editor?
 I know I can edit the entries in the MCC but I would prefer to do it via
 the CLI.

/etc/lilo.conf

After you edit the file, run lilo.
 
 TIA

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Re: [newbie] Testing Procmail Whitelist

2003-12-05 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:38:33 -0400
Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You should write that recipe as:
 
 :0
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 /var/spool/mail/joehill
 
 From man procmailrc:
 ===
 A  line  starting with ':' marks the beginning of a recipe.  It has the 
 following format:
 
 :0 [flags] [ : [locallockfile] ]
 zero or more conditions (one per line)
 exactly one action line
 ===
 
 So it looks like the recipe is waiting for an answer from
 /var/spool/mail/joehill.

I've been following the format I originally snagged from Stephen K.'s site:

http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/files/procmailrc

So that my recipe file looks like this:

:0
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
{
:0:
/var/spool/mail/joehill
}

:0
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
{
:0:
/var/spool/mail/joehill
}

:0
* !^Message-Id
{
:0
$MAILDIR/spam
}

:0
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
{
 :0
 /dev/null
}

:0
* ^Subject:.*joehill
{
 :0
 $MAILDIR/spam
}

:0
* ^Subject:.hi$
{
 :0
 $MAILDIR/spam
}

:0
* ^Message-Id:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
{
 :0
 $MAILDIR/spam
}

:0 B
* .*viagra
{
:0
/dev/null
}

as you can see, I added a lock (:) to the rules which forward to
/var/spool/mail/joehill, as I think what was happening was if I got two mails
both trying to write to there, it was timing out. Since adding the lock, I don't
seem to be having any probs, but I'll keep an eye on it.

I've been reading everything I can get my hands on for Procmail, esp the list
archives, and I'm *beginning*, I think, to understand the concept of the
lock, among other things.

Cheers!

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[newbie] python2.2 python2.3

2003-12-05 Thread Johan
Hi,
Can the above co-exist on mdk 9.2.
python2.3 already installed.
I tried to install from mdk9.1 cd1 (after registering it in mcc) but a 
lot of files seem to be involved  - so I got scared and left it.
Why all this hassels...want to install and use rdiff-backup..can only 
work on python[2.3].
If I want to remove 2.3 again a lot of files are involved..scary.
Please some pointers.
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Re: [newbie] Where on Twiki is the win/lin app list?

2003-12-05 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 10:50 am, et wrote:

 gocr

I just love your volubility g

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Re: [newbie] Where on Twiki is the win/lin app list?

2003-12-05 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 3:29 pm, Tango Echo wrote:
 --- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Friday 05 Dec 2003 2:46 pm, Tango Echo wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   I started with a quest to find a better OCR
 
  program
 
   then the version of Kooka that's included in 9.1.
 
  I
 
   recall a table of applications on Twiki (at least
 
  I
 
   think it was there) that listed the comparison.
 
  Like
 
   for example, you would look for Quickbooks under
   windows and next to it would be Gnucash.  I
 
  searched
 
   Twiki but couldn't't find it... Can any of you
 
  point
 
   me in the right direction? Also, if you happen to
 
  know
 
   of a good OCR program I'd love to hear about it =)
  
   Tango
 
  Tango, I don't recall ever seeing anything like
  that, but it's an
  excellent idea.  I think we should start it right
  now.
 
  As for OCR, I've not tried it, but XSane has an
  option to scan to OCR,
  I think.
 
  Anne
  --

 Ah ha! Found it...  Here's the url:

 http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/#1

 It appears to be an excellent resource.  Perhaps if
 this goes on up on Twiki, we could put an astrisk next
 to each piece of software that is Mandrake supported.
 For example if Gnucash is available from the mandrake
 contrib (or perhaps other mirrors) we could put a *
 next to it.  Then people know they only need to urpmi
 the app name to grab it.  If we really wanted to get
 fancy we could have the * hyperlinked to a page that
 listed the Mandrake versions that support the app.  So
 we could setup 3 pages for example:
 1 - 9.2
 2 - 9.2, 9.1
 3 - 9.2 9.1 8.2
 Then depending upon the support of the app, we
 hyperlink the * to 1, 2, or 3.  Just some thoughts

That sounds a little complicated to me.  Perhaps, though someone could 
start a table on similar lines, but adding a column for source (CD1, 
Contrib, plf and so on) and another for versions of Mdk?  I think it 
needs a bit more thinking about, but basically it's a good idea.

 I tried xsane with not much more luck then Kooka.
 Basically it identified some characters that Kooka
 didn't, but didn't recgonize some that Kooka did.
 Perhaps I should start a new thread to see what others
 are doing for OCR.  There's gotta be something better!
  Although Kooka and Xsane were really the only free
 OCR apps on that list...

I haven't tried OCR since I gave up trying to find a windows one that 
worked.  I know they have improved, but the last one I saw still had 
a long way to go.  Still, I haven't tried gocr, Et's suggestion.

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[newbie] strange process (at least to me) ?

2003-12-05 Thread Dan Gordon
I noticed this process when i looked in gnome system monitor
kdeinit: dcopserver --nosid --suicide
Anyone know what this means specially the suicide part ?
Mandrake 9.2

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[newbie] gtk debugging libraries

2003-12-05 Thread Dimitar Haralanov
I know that some distros have debugging libraries for gtk, glib, and/or
gnome which still have the debugging symbols in them and get installed
in /usr/lib/debug.
I need such libraries for Mandrake 9.1 to debug my app. Do these
packages exists? Does anyone know how/where to get them?

Thanx

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Re: [newbie] Testing Procmail Whitelist

2003-12-05 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 13:47, JoeHill wrote: 
 On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:38:33 -0400
 Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You should write that recipe as:
  
  :0
  * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  /var/spool/mail/joehill
  
  From man procmailrc:
  ===
  A  line  starting with ':' marks the beginning of a recipe.  It has the 
  following format:
  
  :0 [flags] [ : [locallockfile] ]
  zero or more conditions (one per line)
  exactly one action line
  ===
  
  So it looks like the recipe is waiting for an answer from
  /var/spool/mail/joehill.
 
 I've been following the format I originally snagged from Stephen K.'s site:
 http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/files/procmailrc
 
 So that my recipe file looks like this:
 
 :0
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 {
   :0:
   /var/spool/mail/joehill
 }
 
 :0
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 {
   :0:
   /var/spool/mail/joehill
 }
 
 :0
 * !^Message-Id
 {
 :0
 $MAILDIR/spam
 }
 
 :0
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 {
  :0
  /dev/null
 }
 
 :0
 * ^Subject:.*joehill
 {
  :0
  $MAILDIR/spam
 }
 
 :0
 * ^Subject:.hi$
 {
  :0
  $MAILDIR/spam
 }
 
 :0
 * ^Message-Id:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 {
  :0
  $MAILDIR/spam
 }
 
 :0 B
 * .*viagra
 {
   :0
   /dev/null
 }
 
 as you can see, I added a lock (:) to the rules which forward to
 /var/spool/mail/joehill, as I think what was happening was if I got two mails
 both trying to write to there, it was timing out. Since adding the lock, I don't
 seem to be having any probs, but I'll keep an eye on it.
 
 I've been reading everything I can get my hands on for Procmail, esp the list
 archives, and I'm *beginning*, I think, to understand the concept of the
 lock, among other things.
 
 Cheers!

I don't see the point of having something that does nothing. Rewriting
the recipe the way I wrote it does the same thing as using the recipe
with {} and a second :0.

I really respect Stephen's knowledge but in this case I don't see any
point in having a recipe like:

:0 
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* ^Subject:.*
{
 :0
 /dev/null
}

which translates into: if the message is coming from any body at
fc.emc.com.ph *and* the subject is any thing, send it to /dev/null. To
me, the subject line is adding no value to the recipe.

Take a look at man procmailex (procmailrc examples), specially at the
second example, and see how they avoid using unneeded {}.

Wow, you made me read some stuffs before posting a reply :-)

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Re: [newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread Sharrea Day
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 03:53, John Richard Smith wrote:
 et wrote:
 On Friday 05 December 2003 11:49 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 I cann't even get into bios, that is the problem. By flash I guess you
 mean reset the bios and make it redetect ?
 
 John
 
 
 I might add that I do have power supply , it seems like everything
 that needs it is getting power,though since I cannot get into bios I
 cannot tell what may be dead.
 
 If I had harddrive failure you would still be able to get into bios
 If I have monitor failure  , that could be a possibility, though it
 does say no signal and the neon led lights up, which to my mind
 indicates it wants to work.
 If I had a graphic's card failure I ought to be able to get into
 bios at least ?
 If Mobo then I guess it has to be a real possility. Anything there
 could block my access to bios for instance ??
 
 John
 
 
 
 
 
 I think I have found the problem.
 
 My graphics card , gforce3 has a small fan on it and it's hardly
 turning at all. I bet that is the problem, can one buy replacements?
 
 John
 
 yes. send us a picture of the fan you get for it. however, while I ain't
  sure about your particular card, I do know some fans have a control
  circuit that makes the fan run faster when there is more heat. I still
  think you need to blow out the power supply fan.

 At the moment  I don't have an OS that can handle my camera.

 I've bought a new fan (12v , they don't have the exact same voltage as
 the Gforce3 card(2.1v)and plugged it into the main 12v supply, not
 ideal, though it whirls up nicely.The fan goes by the name of Crystal
 Orb p/n A1178 and fits the apperture and seating quite nicely . However
 I'm still stuck as it won't boot even past the bios. Keyboard is dead,
 though optical mouse lights up. I'm wondering whether Geforce3 has heat
 detection, and I need to somehow kick the bios into starting again.

 So I'd better investigate the power supply next .I will have it all out
 and clean it up.

Yep, if you've got another PSu to swap in, try that (or borrow one).  My 
next bet would be the motherboard.

About six months ago I had a similar problem and I could still hear the fan 
whir on the PSU.  Didn't have a power supply with enough grunt to try on my 
system (and all my friends have old PCs with 200W PSUs).  So I pulled the 
PSU and joined 2 wires to see if the fan was working properly as someone 
suggested.  The fan worked no problem so I assumed the next thing to try 
was motherboard.  Bought a new motherboard only to find that it WAS indeed 
the PSU!!!  So, in short, even if the PSU fan is working, doesn't mean that 
enough power is supplied to your system.

THEN, only just two months ago, a friend's PC did the same thing.  I tried 
my PSU in her PC and it worked no probs, so I bought another PSU for her - 
only to find that it was the bl**dy motherboard!

Good luck!

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Re: [newbie] Testing Procmail Whitelist

2003-12-05 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Friday 05 December 2003 07:56 am, JoeHill wrote:
 On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:38:39 +

 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Paris Hilton video - why do people keep offering me a video of a hotel?

 LOL! What don't you get a chill watching video of a static object? It's the
 latest in porn...

I'll be damned. You mean that people actually move during sex? I learn 
something every day.
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Re: [newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread Dimitar Haralanov
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:59:44 +1300
Sharrea Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 03:53, John Richard Smith wrote:
  et wrote:
  On Friday 05 December 2003 11:49 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
  I cann't even get into bios, that is the problem. By flash I guess
  youmean reset the bios and make it redetect ?
  
  John
  
  
  I might add that I do have power supply , it seems like everything
  that needs it is getting power,though since I cannot get into bios
  Icannot tell what may be dead.
  
  If I had harddrive failure you would still be able to get into
  biosIf I have monitor failure  , that could be a possibility,
  though itdoes say no signal and the neon led lights up, which to
  my mindindicates it wants to work.
  If I had a graphic's card failure I ought to be able to get into
  bios at least ?
  If Mobo then I guess it has to be a real possility. Anything there
  could block my access to bios for instance ??
  
  John
  
  
  
  
  
  I think I have found the problem.
  
  My graphics card , gforce3 has a small fan on it and it's hardly
  turning at all. I bet that is the problem, can one buy
  replacements?
  John
  
  yes. send us a picture of the fan you get for it. however, while I
  ain't
   sure about your particular card, I do know some fans have a
   control circuit that makes the fan run faster when there is more
   heat. I still think you need to blow out the power supply fan.
 
  At the moment  I don't have an OS that can handle my camera.
 
  I've bought a new fan (12v , they don't have the exact same voltage
  as the Gforce3 card(2.1v)and plugged it into the main 12v supply,
  not ideal, though it whirls up nicely.The fan goes by the name of
  Crystal Orb p/n A1178 and fits the apperture and seating quite
  nicely . However I'm still stuck as it won't boot even past the
  bios. Keyboard is dead, though optical mouse lights up. I'm
  wondering whether Geforce3 has heat detection, and I need to somehow
  kick the bios into starting again.
 
  So I'd better investigate the power supply next .I will have it all
  out and clean it up.
 
 Yep, if you've got another PSu to swap in, try that (or borrow one). 
 My next bet would be the motherboard.
 
 About six months ago I had a similar problem and I could still hear
 the fan whir on the PSU.  Didn't have a power supply with enough grunt
 to try on my system (and all my friends have old PCs with 200W PSUs). 
 So I pulled the PSU and joined 2 wires to see if the fan was working
 properly as someone suggested.  The fan worked no problem so I assumed
 the next thing to try was motherboard.  Bought a new motherboard only
 to find that it WAS indeed the PSU!!!  So, in short, even if the PSU
 fan is working, doesn't mean that enough power is supplied to your
 system.
 
 THEN, only just two months ago, a friend's PC did the same thing.  I
 tried my PSU in her PC and it worked no probs, so I bought another PSU
 for her - only to find that it was the bl**dy motherboard!
 
 Good luck!
 
 Sharrea
 -- 
 Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today
 
 
 
If you think that the PSU does not have enough power to drive your
computer, unplug everything (harddrive, cdrom, floppy, etc.) and try
again. Even a 200W CPU should be able to drive just a motherboard,
memory, and a video card.
If that does not work, I would suggest checking the memory. If the
memory is bad, nothing will happen (you won't even get anything on the
screen). However, usually if you have a memory problem you will get some
kind of a beep from the PC speaker, which reminds me: usually
motherboards issue beeps when something is wrong prior to loading the
BIOS. Different number of beeps for different things. Your MB manual
should have a list of what different number of beeps mean.

I hope this helps!!

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Re: [newbie] Time display errors

2003-12-05 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Thursday 04 December 2003 08:21 am, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
 Hi all,

 Been using Mandrake for a while now and someone, with my authority,
 updated the machine from 8.0 to 9.1. I like it very much however..

 Coming from a Windows intensive background I mainly use X and I have
 noticed that since the upgrade, my system time seems to increment itself
 by 2 hours each time I reboot the machine, if I don't physically change
 it each time.

 I have set the local time zone in the clock GUI to be
 Africa/Johannesburg and hence my time zone to SAST but my time still
 increments. I thought it might be that my hardware clock was said to be
 running on UTC but after correcting the time on the GUI and rebooting
 into the BIOS I confirmed that the time was correct for my time zone. I
 continued the boot process to bring linux up and saw that the GUI had a
 time 2 hours ahead of the actual time.

 If I do not adjust the time on each reboot the system advances my
 hardware clock by 2hrs which can result in me writing in today for
 tomorrow. :)

 I am comfortable using Kwrite under root to edit the necessary file/s
 but I do not know which one or many to edit. I opened the
 /etc/sysconfig/clock file and was greeeted with the below:

 UTC=false
 ARC=false
 ZONE=America/New_York

 Where the America/New_York came from is anybody's guess. I tried editing
 the file and putting Africa/Johannesburg as the Zone but I did not have
 any luck with the line as below:

 UTC=false
 ARC=false
 ZONE=Africa/Johannesburg # was America/New_York

 Any ideas to stop the incremental clock and get it to recognise that
 Zone as it is setup in the GUI?

 TIA

Hylton:
I had the same experience yesterday. Not having seen any reports of a sudden 
relocation of the local tectonic plate, I figured it was in my KDE settings. 
I cured it as follows (all from the GUI):

1. From KDE Control Center  System  Date  Time  set time zone to No 
selection. (This is what got me into trouble -- the day before, I'd changed 
this from No selection to New York.

2. From Mandrake Control Center  System  Set Date  Time  set time zone. 
A window will then appear asking if the system clock is set to GMT. Select 
yes or no as appropriate.

I've since been through a reboot and the early morning cron routine, and KDE 
is still reporting the correct time.

Warning: Never accept the advice of people who live in the UK about adjusting 
clock settings between local and GMT. How would they know?  ;^)
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Re: [newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread John Richard Smith


My graphics card , gforce3 has a small fan on it and it's hardly
turning at all. I bet that is the problem, can one buy replacements?

John

yes. send us a picture of the fan you get for it. however, while I 
ain't sure
about your particular card, I do know some fans have a control 
circuit that
makes the fan run faster when there is more heat. I still think 
you need to
blow out the power supply fan.


Turns out that my powersupply has failed.
I substituted a know to work powersupply and she booted.
Put the old one back and she fails.
My guess is that the 3.3v line is supplying under voltage.
Just goes to show that powercuts can easily damage powersupply 
units. Not only that, but it's the second unit, known to me,to go 
the same way in my locality, in the last month. Seems like Milton 
Keynes is becoming the powersurge capital ok the uk.

Anyway, thanks, for your help.

Now for a new PSU.

John


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Re: [newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread John Richard Smith
Sharrea Day wrote:

On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 03:53, John Richard Smith wrote:

et wrote:

On Friday 05 December 2003 11:49 am, John Richard Smith wrote:

I cann't even get into bios, that is the problem. By flash I guess you
mean reset the bios and make it redetect ?
John

I might add that I do have power supply , it seems like everything
that needs it is getting power,though since I cannot get into bios I
cannot tell what may be dead.
If I had harddrive failure you would still be able to get into bios
If I have monitor failure  , that could be a possibility, though it
does say no signal and the neon led lights up, which to my mind
indicates it wants to work.
If I had a graphic's card failure I ought to be able to get into
bios at least ?
If Mobo then I guess it has to be a real possility. Anything there
could block my access to bios for instance ??
John





I think I have found the problem.

My graphics card , gforce3 has a small fan on it and it's hardly
turning at all. I bet that is the problem, can one buy replacements?
John

yes. send us a picture of the fan you get for it. however, while I ain't
sure about your particular card, I do know some fans have a control
circuit that makes the fan run faster when there is more heat. I still
think you need to blow out the power supply fan.
At the moment  I don't have an OS that can handle my camera.

I've bought a new fan (12v , they don't have the exact same voltage as
the Gforce3 card(2.1v)and plugged it into the main 12v supply, not
ideal, though it whirls up nicely.The fan goes by the name of Crystal
Orb p/n A1178 and fits the apperture and seating quite nicely . However
I'm still stuck as it won't boot even past the bios. Keyboard is dead,
though optical mouse lights up. I'm wondering whether Geforce3 has heat
detection, and I need to somehow kick the bios into starting again.
So I'd better investigate the power supply next .I will have it all out
and clean it up.
Yep, if you've got another PSu to swap in, try that (or borrow one).  My 
next bet would be the motherboard.

About six months ago I had a similar problem and I could still hear the fan 
whir on the PSU.  Didn't have a power supply with enough grunt to try on my 
system (and all my friends have old PCs with 200W PSUs).  So I pulled the 
PSU and joined 2 wires to see if the fan was working properly as someone 
suggested.  The fan worked no problem so I assumed the next thing to try 
was motherboard.  Bought a new motherboard only to find that it WAS indeed 
the PSU!!!  So, in short, even if the PSU fan is working, doesn't mean that 
enough power is supplied to your system.

THEN, only just two months ago, a friend's PC did the same thing.  I tried 
my PSU in her PC and it worked no probs, so I bought another PSU for her - 
only to find that it was the bl**dy motherboard!

Good luck!

Sharrea



Such is the joys of a computer.

You were right It's the powersupply, the 3.3v line is my guess.
Substituted a known to work and she booted, having first gone to bios to 
shove the HD on autodetect because the bios seemed to protect the drive 
my deselecting it. In a way I'm glad it did, probanbly saved my drive 
from becoming dogmeat.

John


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Re: [newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread John Richard Smith
Dimitar Haralanov wrote:

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:59:44 +1300
Sharrea Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 03:53, John Richard Smith wrote:

et wrote:

On Friday 05 December 2003 11:49 am, John Richard Smith wrote:

I cann't even get into bios, that is the problem. By flash I guess

youmean reset the bios and make it redetect ?

John

I might add that I do have power supply , it seems like everything
that needs it is getting power,though since I cannot get into bios
Icannot tell what may be dead.

If I had harddrive failure you would still be able to get into

biosIf I have monitor failure  , that could be a possibility,
though itdoes say no signal and the neon led lights up, which to
my mindindicates it wants to work.
If I had a graphic's card failure I ought to be able to get into
bios at least ?
If Mobo then I guess it has to be a real possility. Anything there
could block my access to bios for instance ??
John





I think I have found the problem.

My graphics card , gforce3 has a small fan on it and it's hardly
turning at all. I bet that is the problem, can one buy
replacements?

John

yes. send us a picture of the fan you get for it. however, while I
ain't
sure about your particular card, I do know some fans have a
control circuit that makes the fan run faster when there is more
heat. I still think you need to blow out the power supply fan.
At the moment  I don't have an OS that can handle my camera.

I've bought a new fan (12v , they don't have the exact same voltage
as the Gforce3 card(2.1v)and plugged it into the main 12v supply,
not ideal, though it whirls up nicely.The fan goes by the name of
Crystal Orb p/n A1178 and fits the apperture and seating quite
nicely . However I'm still stuck as it won't boot even past the
bios. Keyboard is dead, though optical mouse lights up. I'm
wondering whether Geforce3 has heat detection, and I need to somehow
kick the bios into starting again.
So I'd better investigate the power supply next .I will have it all
out and clean it up.
Yep, if you've got another PSu to swap in, try that (or borrow one). 
My next bet would be the motherboard.

About six months ago I had a similar problem and I could still hear
the fan whir on the PSU.  Didn't have a power supply with enough grunt
to try on my system (and all my friends have old PCs with 200W PSUs). 
So I pulled the PSU and joined 2 wires to see if the fan was working
properly as someone suggested.  The fan worked no problem so I assumed
the next thing to try was motherboard.  Bought a new motherboard only
to find that it WAS indeed the PSU!!!  So, in short, even if the PSU
fan is working, doesn't mean that enough power is supplied to your
system.

THEN, only just two months ago, a friend's PC did the same thing.  I
tried my PSU in her PC and it worked no probs, so I bought another PSU
for her - only to find that it was the bl**dy motherboard!
Good luck!

Sharrea
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If you think that the PSU does not have enough power to drive your
computer, unplug everything (harddrive, cdrom, floppy, etc.) and try
again. Even a 200W CPU should be able to drive just a motherboard,
memory, and a video card.
If that does not work, I would suggest checking the memory. If the
memory is bad, nothing will happen (you won't even get anything on the
screen). However, usually if you have a memory problem you will get some
kind of a beep from the PC speaker, which reminds me: usually
motherboards issue beeps when something is wrong prior to loading the
BIOS. Different number of beeps for different things. Your MB manual
should have a list of what different number of beeps mean.
	I hope this helps



Content-Encoding:




Seems to be the power supply , so I'm after a new one, hopefully more 
reliable one, but maybe I'm going to have to think more seriously about 
surge protectors if they are any good.Either that or buy a spare.

John

John


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Re: [newbie] Where on Twiki is the win/lin app list?

2003-12-05 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:58:55 +
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 05 Dec 2003 10:50 am, et wrote:
 
  gocr
 
 I just love your volubility g
 
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Re: [newbie] Script in the init dir

2003-12-05 Thread Sharrea Day
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 00:50, Alexandre Aractingi wrote:
 I can't seem to be able to run a script when my machine boots up... I
 copied it in /etc/init.d/ though, and I can run it from the shell
 (/etc/init.d/myscript start), but it's not launched at boot time. Am I
 missing something here?

Or you can use ksysv...

Copy your script to /etc/rc.d/init.d and make permissions 700 (rwx--) 
owned by root.

Open ksysv from a terminal as root and choose linux as your OS, then 
Mandrake Linux.  You can now drag and drop your script into the desired 
run levels.

More info in the KDE docs.

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Re: [newbie] strange process (at least to me) ?

2003-12-05 Thread Jerry Barton
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:22:31 -0500
Dan Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I noticed this process when i looked in gnome system monitor
 kdeinit: dcopserver --nosid --suicide
 Anyone know what this means specially the suicide part ?
 Mandrake 9.2

I get those when running a kde ap from outside of kde.  (for instance,
starting k3b while in icewm)

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[newbie] Am I on the blacklist for this list?

2003-12-05 Thread John Drouhard
The messages I send with the email address I'm subscribed with do not
get though. I have to use another email address and confirm it. This
started a couple days ago, and I have tried sending about 3 messages
that have not come through.

I am subscribed with [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,
John

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Re: [newbie] Am I on the blacklist for this list?

2003-12-05 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 10:18 pm, John Drouhard wrote:
 The messages I send with the email address I'm subscribed with do
 not get though. I have to use another email address and confirm it.
 This started a couple days ago, and I have tried sending about 3
 messages that have not come through.

 I am subscribed with [EMAIL PROTECTED]

John - are they bounced, or just lost into ether?

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Re: [newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread Margot
John Richard Smith wrote:
Dimitar Haralanov wrote:

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:59:44 +1300
Sharrea Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 03:53, John Richard Smith wrote:

et wrote:

On Friday 05 December 2003 11:49 am, John Richard Smith wrote:

I cann't even get into bios, that is the problem. By flash I guess

youmean reset the bios and make it redetect ?

John

I might add that I do have power supply , it seems like everything
that needs it is getting power,though since I cannot get into bios
Icannot tell what may be dead.

If I had harddrive failure you would still be able to get into

biosIf I have monitor failure  , that could be a possibility,
though itdoes say no signal and the neon led lights up, which to
my mindindicates it wants to work.
If I had a graphic's card failure I ought to be able to get into
bios at least ?
If Mobo then I guess it has to be a real possility. Anything there
could block my access to bios for instance ??
John





I think I have found the problem.

My graphics card , gforce3 has a small fan on it and it's hardly
turning at all. I bet that is the problem, can one buy
replacements?

John

yes. send us a picture of the fan you get for it. however, while I
ain't
sure about your particular card, I do know some fans have a
control circuit that makes the fan run faster when there is more
heat. I still think you need to blow out the power supply fan.
At the moment  I don't have an OS that can handle my camera.

I've bought a new fan (12v , they don't have the exact same voltage
as the Gforce3 card(2.1v)and plugged it into the main 12v supply,
not ideal, though it whirls up nicely.The fan goes by the name of
Crystal Orb p/n A1178 and fits the apperture and seating quite
nicely . However I'm still stuck as it won't boot even past the
bios. Keyboard is dead, though optical mouse lights up. I'm
wondering whether Geforce3 has heat detection, and I need to somehow
kick the bios into starting again.
So I'd better investigate the power supply next .I will have it all
out and clean it up.
Yep, if you've got another PSu to swap in, try that (or borrow one). 
My next bet would be the motherboard.

About six months ago I had a similar problem and I could still hear
the fan whir on the PSU.  Didn't have a power supply with enough grunt
to try on my system (and all my friends have old PCs with 200W PSUs). 
So I pulled the PSU and joined 2 wires to see if the fan was working
properly as someone suggested.  The fan worked no problem so I assumed
the next thing to try was motherboard.  Bought a new motherboard only
to find that it WAS indeed the PSU!!!  So, in short, even if the PSU
fan is working, doesn't mean that enough power is supplied to your
system.

THEN, only just two months ago, a friend's PC did the same thing.  I
tried my PSU in her PC and it worked no probs, so I bought another PSU
for her - only to find that it was the bl**dy motherboard!
Good luck!

Sharrea
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Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today


If you think that the PSU does not have enough power to drive your
computer, unplug everything (harddrive, cdrom, floppy, etc.) and try
again. Even a 200W CPU should be able to drive just a motherboard,
memory, and a video card.
If that does not work, I would suggest checking the memory. If the
memory is bad, nothing will happen (you won't even get anything on the
screen). However, usually if you have a memory problem you will get some
kind of a beep from the PC speaker, which reminds me: usually
motherboards issue beeps when something is wrong prior to loading the
BIOS. Different number of beeps for different things. Your MB manual
should have a list of what different number of beeps mean.
I hope this helps



Content-Encoding:




Seems to be the power supply , so I'm after a new one, hopefully more 
reliable one, but maybe I'm going to have to think more seriously about 
surge protectors if they are any good.Either that or buy a spare.

John
Up until a few months ago we had loads of power cuts in my area - always 
1 in 3 properties suffering, always including mine :-(

The electricity company dug up our road several times, always claiming 
to have fixed the problem...and it always happened again within a couple 
of weeks. We still get occasional 'blips', which affect my microwave, 
but I've always used surge protectors for the computers and, so far, 
even though they've been cut off several times, no permanent damage - 
Win 98 protests a little, Mandrake justs restarts and gets on with things!

Ask Santa for a surge protector!

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Re: [newbie] Am I on the blacklist for this list?

2003-12-05 Thread Dennis Myers
On Friday 05 December 2003 04:18 pm, John Drouhard wrote:
 The messages I send with the email address I'm subscribed with do not
 get though. I have to use another email address and confirm it. This
 started a couple days ago, and I have tried sending about 3 messages
 that have not come through.

 I am subscribed with [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Thanks,
 John
John, just resubscribe, the server lost you as a mail subscriber. HTH
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[newbie] GTK 1.2 and 2.0 using same AA fonts?

2003-12-05 Thread JoeHill

Is this possible? I used to be dead set against AA fonts, but with 9.2 I find
Verdana to be rendered quite well. Most of my apps are GTK2, so they use the
same font, but a couple, like J-Pilot and GCombust, still use the same old ugly
non-AA Helvetica.

I've tried editing my .gtkrc files to suit, but it has no effect.

I am running a combo of Pekwm and XFCE4, which lets me set the fonts for GTK2,
but anyone know of a way to get GTK1.2 apps to come along?

Thanks!

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[newbie] Re:

2003-12-05 Thread Teilhard Knight
 Hold on. I just realised something.
 You are using Class B addressing in this network.
 In that case the broadcast address I gave you is wrong. It should be
 BROADCAST=172.16.255.255

Good news, Derek. I could get into Internet already. I sometimes find that I
cannot get rid of what I am used in Windows. Just after making the changes
you indicated, iwconfig reported crazy things. I opted to reboot, and viola,
I was even navigating. At first I was disappointed because iwconfig reported
link quality=0, but you were not definitive about the wireless key to be
the wrong one. You say something like usually means, so, I decided to try
it like that, and it worked.

Many thanks, of course. I wish I could take you for a beer. I would never
had done it myself.

Cordially,

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Re: [newbie] Re:

2003-12-05 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 11:47 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote:
  Hold on. I just realised something.
  You are using Class B addressing in this network.
  In that case the broadcast address I gave you is wrong. It should be
  BROADCAST=172.16.255.255

 Good news, Derek. I could get into Internet already. I sometimes find that
 I cannot get rid of what I am used in Windows. Just after making the
 changes you indicated, iwconfig reported crazy things. I opted to reboot,
 and viola, I was even navigating. At first I was disappointed because
 iwconfig reported link quality=0, but you were not definitive about the
 wireless key to be the wrong one. You say something like usually means,
 so, I decided to try it like that, and it worked.

 Many thanks, of course. I wish I could take you for a beer. I would never
 had done it myself.

 Cordially,

 Teilhard.
Yowsa Well done.
Yeah that link quality =0 means you either have a really good signal quality, 
or none at all. I find it more comforting when I see it as anything other 
than zero. 
You are welcome to buy me a pint ,but you are probably quite a long way away. 
How about you donate a similar value to PJ at www.groklaw.net ?
PJ is leading the OpenSource fight against the money grabbing bastards at SCO 
who are trying to steal Linux.

groklaw has become compulsive reading for me. It is open collaboration at its 
best.

derek

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Re: [newbie] Am I on the blacklist for this list?

2003-12-05 Thread Richard Urwin
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 10:18 pm, John Drouhard wrote:
 The messages I send with the email address I'm subscribed with do not
 get though. I have to use another email address and confirm it. This
 started a couple days ago, and I have tried sending about 3 messages
 that have not come through.

If the resubscribe doesn't work...

Which machine is posting the message? Does your machine pass it directly the 
the list, or do you use your ISP as a gateway? At about the time of the great 
unsubscribing, the weekend before last, the list server appears to have been 
tightened up to use paranoid identity checks. The machine that connects to it 
now appears to need both a forward and a reverse DNS registration, and they 
must match. It is not unknown for ISP's machines to fail this check.


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Re: [newbie] Complete failure

2003-12-05 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Friday 05 December 2003 03:37 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:

 whack

 Turns out that my powersupply has failed.
 I substituted a know to work powersupply and she booted.
 Put the old one back and she fails.
 My guess is that the 3.3v line is supplying under voltage.

 Just goes to show that powercuts can easily damage powersupply
 units. Not only that, but it's the second unit, known to me,to go
 the same way in my locality, in the last month. Seems like Milton
 Keynes is becoming the powersurge capital ok the uk.


 Anyway, thanks, for your help.

 Now for a new PSU.

 John

John:
It might be a good time to consider a good UPS, too. It will allow you to keep 
right on working through brief power outages; for longer ones, the UPS will 
do a clean system shutdown without any effort on your part. An additional 
advantage is that the better ones provide a constant supply voltage to the PC 
which will prolong the life of your PSU and monitor, as well as filtering 
some of the extraneous spikes that come down the line.
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Re: [newbie] bind and dhcp

2003-12-05 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Thursday 04 December 2003 06:07 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 Since you are using a private domain name (systek.kom), there is no way
 the clients find out about the secondary name server unless you
 explicitly tell them about it. IOW, you should mention it.

 In the case of public domain name, most of the time you register at the
 root authority 2 name servers to handle your domain. If the first one
 goes down the other enter action.

Yes Adolfo, it's on a private LAN.
I've googled and found this for dhcpd.conf:
option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.250, 192.168.0.233;
So, now the clients now which secondary dns to consult in case the primary is 
out of service.

Now, I'm researching how to setup a fail-over dhcpd.
Thanks.
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[newbie] Asus Motherboards and Mandrake - will it work 100% ?

2003-12-05 Thread Janus Sandsgaard
I am buying a new PC and can choose between these two motherboards:

- Asus P4BGL-MX/533 (standard)
  http://uk.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4bgl-mx-533/overview.htm

- Asus P4P800-VM (with AGP)
  http://uk.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800-vm/overview.htm

They are both all-in-one types of motherboards with integrated LAN, audio, 
graphics etc.

Question: 

- Does anyone have experience with these motherboards running Mandrake?
- Do they work 100% with Linux?

Asus provides some drivers for Linux, but I gues that is not the same as 
saying everything (lan, audio etc) will work in real life? I can't find the 
motherboard in the hardware database at the Mandrake website.

-j

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Re: [newbie] strange process (at least to me) ?

2003-12-05 Thread Dan Gordon
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:17:13 +
Jerry Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I get those when running a kde ap from outside of kde.  (for instance,
 starting k3b while in icewm)
 
 
Ok makes sense, my wm is xfce and i do run kde apps.  I guess i was
worryed when i saw suicide in there lol.  thought maybe the os was going
to check out on me hehehe.

Regards,
Dan Gordon

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Re: [newbie] Asus Motherboards and Mandrake - will it work 100% ?

2003-12-05 Thread Dan LaBine
Janus; I'm running many Asus boards without problems. The new (?) Asus P4S533-MX is 
110%
Ok for Mandrake 9.2. If it doesn't work for you, I'll buy it from you. One word of 
caution though.
Break down and buy a Video Card! Most boards run like Doggy-Doo-Doo using on-board 
video
controllers, so do yourself a favor and beg, borrow, steal, or otherwise acquire a 
good video card.

There. You should be all set now! Grin!

Lanman

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On 12/6/2003 at 3:29 AM Janus Sandsgaard wrote:

I am buying a new PC and can choose between these two motherboards:

- Asus P4BGL-MX/533 (standard)
  http://uk.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4bgl-mx-533/overview.htm

- Asus P4P800-VM (with AGP)
  http://uk.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800-vm/overview.htm

They are both all-in-one types of motherboards with integrated LAN,
audio,
graphics etc.

Question:

- Does anyone have experience with these motherboards running Mandrake?
- Do they work 100% with Linux?

Asus provides some drivers for Linux, but I gues that is not the same as
saying everything (lan, audio etc) will work in real life? I can't find
the
motherboard in the hardware database at the Mandrake website.

-j

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Re: [newbie] Font spacing in kword in M9.1

2003-12-05 Thread Charlie
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:27 pm, many eyes noted that John Richard Smith wrote:
 I don;t think you can adjust spacing at all.  Which font are you using
 John?  I use Sans, regular, 10 pt, and everything is very easy to
 read.
 
 Anne

 I usually adopt helvetica, but it doesn't seem to make any difference.
 It looks reasonable on screen, I say reasonable,though perhaps still a
 little close, but in print preview, and actual print off, it is all too
 close set to be easily readable. I never had this problem before.

 John

You haven't changed any printer settings?
I don't have Kword installed, so can't help. I have always used 
OpenOffice.org.

Charlie

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Re: [newbie] KWord Spelling

2003-12-05 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 01:43 am, many eyes noted that Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 05 Dec 2003 1:56 pm, Keith Powell wrote:
  Has anyone got the spell checker to work in KWord, please?
 
  I have experimented with various settings in Settings-Configure
  KWord-Spellings.
 
  When it has spell checked the first word, it either won't call up
  the dictionary again, or it crashes with a seg-fault. It won't save
  the settings but keeps reverting to the default ones.
 
  I can't decide if the problem is KWord, or me!
 
  Ispell and Ispell-en are installed, as are Aspell and Aspell-en.
 
  I can't find an answer in the archives.
 
  Many thanks for any advice.
 
  Keith

 I use KWord in 9.1, Keith, and the spelling works fine.  It's set to
 use Aspell Default dictionary, with client set to just Aspell.  HTH

 Anne

Go into Control Center/Components/Spell Checker and check it is as you want.

You might be able to configure it through Kword also? Don't know.

Charlie.

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Re: [newbie] bind and dhcp

2003-12-05 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Saturday 06 December 2003 09:39 am, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 I noticed that you are using dynamic updates between your dhcp and dns
 server.

 Is that working if any client join the network? If so, could you please
 post or send me off list your dhcpd.conf and named.conf? I am really
 having a hard time getting ddns working.

 Thanks in advance,

Sure. Below is my dhcpd.conf and named.conf. The main trick here is to create 
a secret key to be used by both dhcpd and named. We can generate this key by 
using dnssec-keygen. I don't remember the exact syntax, but you can see it in 
the man page of named or dhcpd. Or for sake of easiness, you can just copy 
paste the portion of my dhcpd.conf and named.conf which consist the key 
(lines with DHCP_UPDATER).

Everytimes there is a new client attached to the network, dhcpd will receive 
the dhcprequest signal from it, and then offer a free ip lease, if it 
concurs, then the client will adopt the ip and all the settings, and dhcpd 
will send a dhcpack and register the record in dns.

Previously, I thought that Linux can't offer this dynamic dns update, and only 
w2k server is able to do it. But, know, I'm convinced and love Linux more 
than ever.


Here is my confs:
- ---
named.conf
- ---
[EMAIL PROTECTED] conf-school]# cat named.conf
// generated by named-bootconf.pl


// secret must be the same as in /etc/rndc.conf
key key {
algorithm   hmac-md5;
secret
c3Ryb25nIGVub3VnaCBmb3IgYSBtYW4gYnV0IG1hZGUgZm9yIGEgd29tYW4K;
};

controls {
inet 127.0.0.1 allow { any; } keys { key; };
};

key DHCP_UPDATER {
 algorithm HMAC-MD5.SIG-ALG.REG.INT;
 secret BjFnHGfSoUs1RUVnhaqJPg==;
};

options {
pid-file /var/run/named/named.pid;
directory /var/named;
forward only;
forwarders {
202.147.252.2;
202.147.252.3;
#202.158.3.7;
#202.158.3.6;
};
/*
 * If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want
 * to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source
 * directive below.  Previous versions of BIND always asked
 * questions using port 53, but BIND 8.1 uses an unprivileged
 * port by default.
 */
 query-source address * port 53;
};

//
// a caching only nameserver config
//
zone . {
type hint;
file named.ca;
};

zone 0.0.127.in-addr.arpa {
type master;
file named.local;
};

zone sistek.kom {
type master;
file sistek.kom;
allow-update { key DHCP_UPDATER; };
};

zone 10.10.192.in-addr.arpa {
type master;
file 192.10.10.1;
allow-update { key DHCP_UPDATER; };
};



- -
dhcpd.conf
- -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] conf-school]# cat dhcpd.conf
authoritative;
ddns-update-style interim;
#option root-path 192.168.0.233:/opt/ltsp/i386;
#option option-128 code 128 = string;
#option option-129 code 129 = text;

key DHCP_UPDATER {
 algorithm HMAC-MD5.SIG-ALG.REG.INT;
 secret BjFnHGfSoUs1RUVnhaqJPg==;
};

zone sistek.kom. {
 primary 192.10.10.1;
 key DHCP_UPDATER;
}

zone 0.10.192.in-addr.arpa. {
 primary 192.10.10.1;
 key DHCP_UPDATER;
}

subnet 192.10.10.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
ddns-updates on;
option routers 192.10.10.1;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option domain-name sistek.kom;
option domain-name-servers 192.10.10.1;
range 192.10.10.2 192.10.10.200;
}

#shared-network ltsp_ws {
#   ddns-updates off;
#   next-server 192.168.0.233;
#   filename /lts/vmlinuz-2.4.21-ltsp-1;
#   subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
#   ddns-updates on;
#   option routers 192.168.0.250;
#   option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
#   option domain-name sistek.kom;
#   option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.250;
#   range dynamic-bootp 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.150;
#   default-lease-time 21600;
#   max-lease-time 43200;
#   host dhcp {
#   hardware ethernet 00:d0:b7:a8:6f:0e;
#   fixed-address 192.168.0.250;
#   }
#   }
#   group {
#   use-host-decl-names on;
#   option log-servers 192.168.0.233;
#   option root-path 192.168.0.233:/opt/ltsp/i386;
#
#   host ws001 {
#   hardware ethernet 00:40:05:3f:c8:b0;
#   fixed-address 192.168.0.101;
#   option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00;
#   option option-129 NIC=ne IO=0x300 IRQ=3;
#   #filename /lts/vmlinuz-2.4.21-i386-ltsp;
#   }

#   host ws002 {
#   hardware ethernet 00:40:05:4D:52:03;
#   fixed-address 192.168.0.102;
#   option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00;
#   option option-129 

Re: [newbie] strange process (at least to me) ?

2003-12-05 Thread Jerry Barton
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:28:54 -0500
Dan Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok makes sense, my wm is xfce and i do run kde apps.  I guess i was
 worryed when i saw suicide in there lol.  thought maybe the os was
 going to check out on me hehehe.

Wait until you see one of those kernel cookies like lpr is on fire! 
heheh.  

It's safe to just killall -kill kdeinit on those.

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Re: [newbie] Am I on the blacklist for this list?

2003-12-05 Thread John Drouhard
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:49:05 -0800
Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:18:24 -0600
 John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The messages I send with the email address I'm subscribed with do
  not get though.
 
 Do you get bounces when you post as [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?  Or do
 they just not go thru?
 
  I have to use another email address and confirm
  it. This started a couple days ago, and I have tried sending about
  3 messages that have not come through.
  
  I am subscribed with [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 It looks like you are subbed as both of these:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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This is my dad's

 
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This one isn't subscribed at all, but the one that I used to get this
message to go through.

 Which one do youpost with that results in a confirmation message?
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'll try sending one more with my account.


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