Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10 audio related crash

[azrael]

Quoting workshop [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Using xp?

Er...? No.. I'm using mandrake 10.0
I can't quite work out how Mandrake would crash/hang if I was using windowsXP..

 With platinum unpluging sends voltage through the card. Never unplug or
 replug in windows. Reinstall the drivers after u have cleaned the card using

Reinstall drivers? Clean the card with benzine?

 benzine. boot the pc without the card then after the cleaning plug the card
 in and ja reinstall ...

Take the card out? I don't want to take the card out, I am not attempting to
hotswap pci devices, I was unplugging the speaker jack cable.

 From Craig

Hmm.. sorry Craig.. but either your humour escapes me this early in the morning,
or you're just trolling me.

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Re: [newbie] kdeinit and starting X

[Alaa The Great]

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:56:19 + (GMT)
J.I. Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 -What exactly does startx do?

it starts your default desktop

essentialy what it dows is start the X server and run ~/.xinitrc
if ~/.xinitrc does not exist it starts /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc

in mandrake all /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc does is run another script
/etc/X11/Xsession Xsession starts the firsttime wizard if its the first
time to run X otherwise it starts the desktop mentioned in ~/.desktop or
the default system desktop /etc/sysconfig/desktop
if all this fails it falls down to some hardcoded defaults (like trying
icewm, then trying twm, then just opening a terminal etc.)

of course these scripts do more (like set your default browser) you'll
need to read if you really want to know the gory details.


 -How else can I start the x server?

you could use xinit
xinit starts an X server and runs the command you pass it (or ~/.xinitrc
if none exist).

xinit /usr/bin/pekwm

starts an X server with pekwm as the session manager, if pekwm quits the
X server closed.

or you could do it the very hard way and start the X server on your own

X

then attach some client t it,
rxvt -display :0

or something like that, I never tried it.

 -What might be the problem with kdeinit?
 -How would I start a different window manager (gnome, pekwm, icewm,
 ...)?-What does startkde, startgnome and starticewm do?

well best way to start wm's Mandrake knows about (the system knows about
a wm if it has an entry in /etc/X11/wmsession.d/) is to install the
package Xtart then run

Xtart

however you could use the xinit command to start any X session, you
could pass it a wm or even just a single X client (I run wine this way).

AFAIK startkde and startgnome are scripts that setup ad start the DE's
for you you can use these with xinit

xinit `which startkde`

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[newbie] Re: Howto restore USB mouse on Toshiba A10 laptop

[John Zoetebier]

On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:41:23 -0500, Ronald J. Hall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sunday 14 March 2004 07:57 pm, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-Quoting John Zoetebier 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
- I booted my Toshiba laptop without the USB mouse plugged in.
- In stead of detecting there is no mouse attached and using the 
TouchPad
- Mandrake shows a new hardware dialog.
- Not knowing what to do with it I click on cancel button.
- Now I do not have a touchpad nor a mouse, regardless if I plug the 
mouse
- in or not.
- When I login with keybard only I have managed to start the hardware
- configuration dialog.
- However the tab key is not working in this dialog.
- Is there any way I can get the mouse back ?
-
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-
-Hi John,
-I'm not so sure why your notebook behaves like that. Because in mine, I
-usually plug and unplug my usb mouse without any problem. Yes, Mdk 
usually
-will ask about hardware configuration, and I always choose 'cancel'. 
If we
-choose 'Yes' it simply prensents us the configuration menu of the 
mouse.
-
-To solve your problem, I think you can use drakeconf, but first it's 
better
 if -you do it in text mode since your tab key doesn't work, use 
Ctrl+Alt+F2
 to go -to a console, and execute 'drakeconf' as root. TO go back to X,
 press -Ctrl+Alt+F7
-HTH,
-Fajar.
-
-
That works great, thanks.
Both mouse and touchpad work at the same time now.
Guys, once you get the touchpad and USB mouse working the way you want 
it,
just go into the Mandrake Control Center, under services and turn off
harddrake. Just remember to turn it back on if you do add any new 
hardware.

:-)
Mandrake still pops up to configure mouse when USB mouse is not plugged in.
Could not find services under Mandrake 9.2.
Has this tool been moved somewhere else ?
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[newbie] Soundblaster Audigy 2 no sound in MDK 10 Community

[Mandrake User]

Hello robin,

I have an audigy 2 LS and can't get it to work on Mandrake 10.0 as well. I checked mixer settings and volume was on. Soundcard was correctly detected and module loaded. I looked through everywhere and did everything I could but still cannot get it to work. The same soundcard was working fine in Mdk 9.2 but ceased to function in Mdk 10.0 community(clean installation with cd 1-4). I will be very happy if I can get it to work.


Here is my old thread in this mailing list:




Already searched google, all the linux forums I know
as well as Mandrake sites. Not much info. on Mandrake
10.0 Community it seems. I posted my problem on some
forums, still awaiting for replies.

Sound card is detected, module loaded and mixers
turned on...what did I miss? hmmm

I found an old post that suggested "ls -L -l /dev/dsp"
, any idea what does it do? Anyway, when I tried it,
here's what I got:

ls -L -l /dev/dsp
crw---  1 username audio 14, 3 Jan  1  1970
/dev/dsp



--- Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 On Wednesday 17 March 2004 08:59 pm, Mandrake User
 wrote:
  I have installed aumix and alsa and turned on
  everything. Even changed the driver to snd-emu10k1
 but
  still no sound.
 
  Any more suggestions, please? Thanks.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] user]$ aumix -q
  vol 100, 100
  bass 50, 50
  treble 50, 50
  synth 0, 100
  pcm 100, 100
  speaker 100, 100
  line 77, 77
  mic 0, 80
  cd 77, 77
  line1 0, 77
  dig1 80, 80
  phin 0, 0
  phout 0, 0
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] user]$ /sbin/chkconfig --list alsa
  alsa0:off   1:off   2:on3:on   
 4:on
   5:on6:off
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] user]$ /sbin/chkconfig --list
 sound
  sound   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on   
 4:on
   5:on6:off
Dobrescu Mihai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have an Audigy Player and it works on ALSA, but ithas a background noise.Try to check/uncheck the Advanced-ANALOG option inkmix and increase the sound level! Mine was set on 0.--- robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Stephen Reynolds wrote:  I can't get sound from my Soundblaster Audigy sound card since I   installed MDK 10. Anybody else have this problem and found a solution?I'm sure others have discussed this problem on this list, but I can't   find a searchable archive -- is there one?   Have you checked out http://www.linuxlogin.com/linux/emu10k2.php  Sir Robin  --  "Have you googled yet?" "Willow, she's seventeen!" - Buffy the Vampire Slayer  Robin Turner
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Re: [newbie] Re: Howto restore USB mouse on Toshiba A10 laptop

[Fajar Priyanto]

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On Thursday 18 March 2004 04:29 pm, John Zoetebier wrote:

 Mandrake still pops up to configure mouse when USB mouse is not plugged in.
 Could not find services under Mandrake 9.2.
 Has this tool been moved somewhere else ?
You can ignore it and press cancel.
What do you mean services. You mean this? Configure your computer  system  
services. ? Or you can also use the CLI: chkconfig --list
 
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Re: [newbie] urpmi command question

[Alaa The Great]

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:33:44 -0800
Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 17 March 2004 04:33 pm, Florian Ahlers wrote:
  Hi everybody:
  Which command option do I have to use to get more information on
  a package
  using urpmi?
  For example: urpmi XX octave to get detailed information on the
  octave package like version or the information shown within
  rpmdrake.
 http://www.urpmi.org/
 
  thanks in advance
 
  Florian

urpmq -i octave

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Re: [newbie] kdeinit and starting X

[Alaa The Great]

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:56:19 + (GMT)
J.I. Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 -What exactly does startx do?

it starts your default desktop

essentialy what it dows is start the X server and run ~/.xinitrc
if ~/.xinitrc does not exist it starts /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc

in mandrake all /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc does is run another script
/etc/X11/Xsession Xsession starts the firsttime wizard if its the first
time to run X otherwise it starts the desktop mentioned in ~/.desktop or
the default system desktop /etc/sysconfig/desktop
if all this fails it falls down to some hardcoded defaults (like trying
icewm, then trying twm, then just opening a terminal etc.)

of course these scripts do more (like set your default browser) you'll
need to read if you really want to know the gory details.


 -How else can I start the x server?

you could use xinit
xinit starts an X server and runs the command you pass it (or ~/.xinitrc
if none exist).

xinit /usr/bin/pekwm

starts an X server with pekwm as the session manager, if pekwm quits the
X server closed.

or you could do it the very hard way and start the X server on your own

X

then attach some client t it,
rxvt -display :0

or something like that, I never tried it.

 -What might be the problem with kdeinit?
 -How would I start a different window manager (gnome, pekwm, icewm,
 ...)?-What does startkde, startgnome and starticewm do?

well best way to start wm's Mandrake knows about (the system knows about
a wm if it has an entry in /etc/X11/wmsession.d/) is to install the
package Xtart then run

Xtart

however you could use the xinit command to start any X session, you
could pass it a wm or even just a single X client (I run wine this way).

AFAIK startkde and startgnome are scripts that setup ad start the DE's
for you you can use these with xinit

xinit `which startkde`

cheers,
Alaa
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[newbie] To Clarify urpmi Errors

[andrew . lundy]

Hi all,

I've been reading around the Internet about these errors I've been getting
while using urpmi, and the general feeling is that it's a bug in Mandrake
9.2. Anyway, I'd just like to clarify this before I do anything stupid...

Basically, I've installed MDK 9.2 from the discs one and two, right after
that I've done a 'urpmi.removemedia -a' and then updated it so urpmi update,
contrib, etc looks to new ftp mirrors on the web.

I get something like this:

---

$ urpmi sylpheed
blah blah... you must install these extra packages... blah blah...

medium contrib uses an invalid list file:  mirror is probably not
up-to-date, trying to use alternate method

the following packages have bad signitures... blah blah... Missing signature
(sha1 md5 OK)
Do you want to continue installation? (Y/n)

---

If I do 'y', the packages install and there seems to be no problem. If
that's the case and there is no problem with doing this, is there any way to
stop it from giving me this warning each time I want to install something?

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Re: [newbie] To Clarify urpmi Errors

[Derek Jennings]

On Thursday 18 Mar 2004 10:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've been reading around the Internet about these errors I've been getting
 while using urpmi, and the general feeling is that it's a bug in Mandrake
 9.2. Anyway, I'd just like to clarify this before I do anything stupid...

 Basically, I've installed MDK 9.2 from the discs one and two, right after
 that I've done a 'urpmi.removemedia -a' and then updated it so urpmi
 update, contrib, etc looks to new ftp mirrors on the web.

 I get something like this:

 ---

 $ urpmi sylpheed
 blah blah... you must install these extra packages... blah blah...

 medium contrib uses an invalid list file:  mirror is probably not
 up-to-date, trying to use alternate method

 the following packages have bad signitures... blah blah... Missing
 signature (sha1 md5 OK)
 Do you want to continue installation? (Y/n)

 ---

 If I do 'y', the packages install and there seems to be no problem. If
 that's the case and there is no problem with doing this, is there any way
 to stop it from giving me this warning each time I want to install
 something?

 Thanks.


You can get rid of the invalid list file: warning if you remove the 
file /var/lib/urpmi/list.contrib

then edit your /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg
and remove the line: list: list.contrib for your contrib source...

As for the bad signature warning check that your contrib source has a GPG 
key associated with it in the Software Sources GUI in Mandrake Control 
Centre. 

BTW: If you want sylpheed you might like to try Charles Edwards' version. It 
is newer than the one in contrib http://www.eslrahc.com/ It can be set up as 
a urpmi source. (Good job Charles)

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RE: [newbie] To Clarify urpmi Errors

[andrew . lundy]

Excellent.

Thanks Derek, I'll check that out.


-Original Message-
From: Derek Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 March 2004 11:17
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] To Clarify urpmi Errors


On Thursday 18 Mar 2004 10:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've been reading around the Internet about these errors I've been getting
 while using urpmi, and the general feeling is that it's a bug in Mandrake
 9.2. Anyway, I'd just like to clarify this before I do anything stupid...

 Basically, I've installed MDK 9.2 from the discs one and two, right after
 that I've done a 'urpmi.removemedia -a' and then updated it so urpmi
 update, contrib, etc looks to new ftp mirrors on the web.

 I get something like this:

 ---

 $ urpmi sylpheed
 blah blah... you must install these extra packages... blah blah...

 medium contrib uses an invalid list file:  mirror is probably not
 up-to-date, trying to use alternate method

 the following packages have bad signitures... blah blah... Missing
 signature (sha1 md5 OK)
 Do you want to continue installation? (Y/n)

 ---

 If I do 'y', the packages install and there seems to be no problem. If
 that's the case and there is no problem with doing this, is there any way
 to stop it from giving me this warning each time I want to install
 something?

 Thanks.


You can get rid of the invalid list file: warning if you remove the 
file /var/lib/urpmi/list.contrib

then edit your /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg
and remove the line: list: list.contrib for your contrib source...

As for the bad signature warning check that your contrib source has a GPG 
key associated with it in the Software Sources GUI in Mandrake Control 
Centre. 

BTW: If you want sylpheed you might like to try Charles Edwards' version. It

is newer than the one in contrib http://www.eslrahc.com/ It can be set up as

a urpmi source. (Good job Charles)

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Re: [newbie] OT Streamripper

[JoeHill]

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:16:25 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

  ...did you install any Streamtuner plugins? I ask because:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ls -l /usr/lib/streamtuner/plugins/
  total 44
  -rw-r--r--1 root root18840 Jul 14  2003 shoutcast.a
  -rwxr-xr-x1 root root  724 Jul 14  2003 shoutcast.la*
  -rwxr-xr-x1 root root19824 Jul 14  2003 shoutcast.so*
 
  and I can find no file named 'local.so' on my system.
 Yes after the trouble started didn't work tho

Shite, man, I don't know what the fsck's goin' on there.

Try Stephen's old trick of running 'ldconfig' to make sure Streamtuner knows
where to look for the shared objects.

If not, try uninstalling it again, and this time make sure the
/usr/lib/streamtuner dir gets taken out, then reinstall only the Streamtuner
package. After you did the 'install from source' thang, did you you do a 'make
uninstall'? There may some leftovers, so do a 'locate streamtuner' after
uninstalling to make sure you catch everything.

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Re: [newbie] Install Problems

[Job Evers]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:38:05 -0600
John A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Also, I'm having problems loading X properly. I couldn't get X to run
 at all under 10.0. And for some reason in 9.2, when I set my monitor 
 resolution as a Flat Panel Display 1024 x 768 the edges of the desktop
 
 extend beyond the montor display. In other words, I can't see the 
 perimeter of the desktop, just the center. Any idea why this would be 
 happening?
 

I've been having similar problems.  I use the 852 chipset, which is supposed to be 
similar to the 855.  Might want to take a look at an earlier thread where I asked 
about this:  
[newbie] Intel 852/855 GM Chipset, 1024x768 Resolution

and also:
[newbie] Zoomed display in GUI

If you're still confused after taking a look at those, come back and we'll see what we 
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[newbie] Solving IRQ Conflict

[Job Evers]

I recently did an upgrade from 9.1 to 9.2.  Everything seems to be working except for 
my internet.  Something seems to be wrong with the ethernet card.  I get this output 
when I run net_monitor and then try to connect:

(net_monitor:3353): GLib-CRITICAL **: file gmain.c: line 1560 (g_source_remove): 
assertion `tag  0' failed
Shutting down loopback interface:  [  OK  ]
Setting network parameters:  [  OK  ]
Bringing up loopback interface:  [  OK  ]
Bringing up interface eth0:  SIOCSIFFLAGS: Invalid argument
Failed to bring up eth0.
[FAILED]

The internet does work when I reboot and use the old kernel (2.4.21-0.13).

A google search for SIOCSIFFLAGS seems to indicate it is an IRQ I/O problem and that I 
should look at
$ifconfig -a along with /proc/interrupts and /proc/pci.  

I did that, but I don't know what to do now?  

For the 2.4.22-10 kernel:
**
ifconfig -a
**
eth0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:E0:B8:55:B5:4D  
(...snip...)
Interrupt:237 Base address:0x2000

**
/proc/interrupts
**
   CPU0
  0:  26031  XT-PIC  timer
  1:375  XT-PIC  keyboard
  2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
  8:  1  XT-PIC  rtc
  9: 28  XT-PIC  acpi
 10:968  XT-PIC  ehci_hcd, Intel 82801DB-ICH4
 11:  5  XT-PIC  usb-uhci, usb-uhci, O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6912 Cardb
us Controller
 14:   4716  XT-PIC  ide0
 15:  6  XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:  0
LOC:  25994
ERR:  0
MIS:  0

(notice no reference to eth0 anywhere)

**
/proc/pci
**
(...snip...)
Bus  2, device   8, function  0:
Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801BD PRO/100 VE (MOB) Ethernet Controller (rev 
131).
  IRQ -19.
  Master Capable.  Latency=66.  Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=56.
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe020 [0xe0200fff].
  I/O at 0x3000 [0x303f].

For the 2.4.21-0.13 kernel:
**
ifconfig -a
**
eth0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:E0:B8:55:B5:4D  
(...snip...)
Interrupt:11 Base address:0xe000

**
/proc/interrupts
**
   CPU0
  0: 235201  XT-PIC  timer
  1:   2909  XT-PIC  keyboard
  2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
  8:  1  XT-PIC  rtc
  9: 85  XT-PIC  acpi
 10:  19121  XT-PIC  ehci-hcd, Intel 82801DB-ICH4
 11:  69422  XT-PIC  usb-uhci, usb-uhci, eth0, O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6912 
Cardbus Controller
 12:  27873  XT-PIC  PS/2 Mouse
 14: 247846  XT-PIC  ide0
 15:266  XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:  0
LOC:  0
ERR:  0
MIS:  0

**
/proc/pci
**
(...snip...)
  Bus  2, device   8, function  0:
Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801BD PRO/100 VE (MOB) Ethernet Controller (rev 
131).
  IRQ 11.
  Master Capable.  Latency=66.  Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=56.
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe020 [0xe0200fff].
  I/O at 0x3000 [0x303f].

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

[Glenn]

On Wednesday 17 March 2004 14:10, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

 Hmm...in having experienced Cajuns first hand, it'd be rather strange to
 see some at a hockey game...


Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g


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[newbie] installing openoffice quick launch

[rhein]

Hello,
I tried to install openoffice quick launch...
when I'm in console and running the configure script I get this error 
message.
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc...no
checking for cc...no
checking for cl...no
configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH

What does it say in english??? :-)
Bye
Christophe


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Re: [newbie] installing openoffice quick launch

[Alaa The Great]

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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:14:41 +0200
rhein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 I tried to install openoffice quick launch...
 when I'm in console and running the configure script I get this error 
 message.
 checking for gcc... no
 checking for cc...no
 checking for cc...no
 checking for cl...no
 configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
 
 What does it say in english??? :-)

that you need to install the package gcc

urpmi gcc

should do the trick, but if you truely have no development packages
installed at all there will probably be more missing dependencies.

hint, if ./configure asks for a library try

urpmi library_name-devel

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Re: [newbie] Mail clients

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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:33:41 -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] disseminated the following:

 I'm using Sylpheed at the moment. It can be my daddy if it wants to be.
 
 A combination of Mozilla Firefox and Sylpheed are a speed demons match made
 in heaven.

Big ditto on that one! Though, as soon as there is a _stable_ and _functional_
GTK2 version of Claws...

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

[JoeHill]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 06:09:50 -0700
Glenn disseminated the following:

  Hmm...in having experienced Cajuns first hand, it'd be rather strange to
  see some at a hockey game...
 
 
 Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g

Though, it must have taken some explaining to the fans, initially, that there
were to be no actual *alligators* on the ice :-D

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Re: [newbie] installing openoffice quick launch

[Derek Jennings]

On Thursday 18 Mar 2004 11:14, rhein wrote:
 Hello,
 I tried to install openoffice quick launch...
 when I'm in console and running the configure script I get this error
 message.
 checking for gcc... no
 checking for cc...no
 checking for cc...no
 checking for cl...no
 configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH

 What does it say in english??? :-)
 Bye
 Christophe

It means you do not have a C compiler installed

Install gcc

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

[Glenn]

On Thursday 18 March 2004 05:55, JoeHill wrote:

 Though, it must have taken some explaining to the fans, initially, that
 there were to be no actual *alligators* on the ice :-D

:-)

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Re: [newbie] This is why I love this OS...

[JoeHill]

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:21:51 -0800
David E. Fox disseminated the following:

  Anyhow, from what I've heard from Tom Brinkman on this issue is that you are
  pretty much at the mercy of whomever encoded the original DivX. You might
  try changing your sources, maybe try MLDonkey instead. Prolly not as fast as
  the
 
 hmm how to start mldonkey? I got the rpm installed but there's seemingly no
 executable?

Best way is to run it from a term. Just 'mldonkey', then it will prompt you to
start the gui. Once in the GUI, you can set it to start the GUI automatically.

This is assuming you installed the GUI, which is a seperate package. If not, do:

urpmi mldonkey-gui

Reason why it's best to run from a term: that way, when you want to quit
MLDonkey, you just close the GUI and then ctrl-c in the term to stop the
console/daemon/background process ('mlnet'). Saves you having to do a 'killall
mlnet'.

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Re: [newbie] This is why I love this OS...

[JoeHill]

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:17:31 -0800
David E. Fox disseminated the following:

 Hmm. One I tried was a rip done from a DVD, so I don't think the
 original quality would be of issue.

Shouldn't be, no, but from lurking on the mjpegtools list for awhile, I gather
this is not always an easy go. Personally, I've never tried ripping a DVD. I
can't even imagine how long that would take on this ol' box.

 The other time it was from a divx - but the divx itself looked quite good -
 then why would there be problems in the conversion to (s)vcd? I mean, there
 are no sync problems in the original. Call me a newbie - I am at least in this
 particular area.

Join the club. The abovementioned 'lurking' on mjpegtools left me mostly
baffled. The few times I did ask questions, though, they were quite friendly. It
may be worth your while to join and see if you can pick up a few pointers.

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Re: [newbie] This is why I love this OS...

[JoeHill]

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:17:31 -0800
David E. Fox disseminated the following:

 Hmm. One I tried was a rip done from a DVD, so I don't think the
 original quality would be of issue. The other time it was from a divx -
 but the divx itself looked quite good - then why would there be problems
 in the conversion to (s)vcd? I mean, there are no sync problems in the
 original. Call me a newbie - I am at least in this particular area.

Forgot to mention, look in the forums here:

http://dvdripping-guid.berlios.de/

There are other scripts and such out there that might work better for you, and
quite a few of them are discussed at length.

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Re: [newbie] openoffice sous win et linux?

[Frank Bax]

At 08:45 AM 3/16/04, Lee Wiggers wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:39:47 +
Olivier Esser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello everybody,

 Please excuse me!. I am  subscribed to both French and English
 list and I have use the wrong address!

 My problem was that a same word document does not open exactly in
 the same way under openoffice 1.1 under linux and windows. This
 concerns essentialy the page breaks.



  Bonjour,
 
  J'ai remarqué qu'un même document n'a pas exactement la même
  mise en

 [...]




You're right.  I pointed it out to the oo list and never got a
response.  This was at least two versions ago.
Also it doesn't export the exact same .pdf in win and Linux.

I had to dual boot to get docs from my staff the way they were
written or look forward to miles of editing.
Super PITA.

Lee


I have this problem with OOo 1.1 docs going from one Win98 system to 
another - page breaks are not in the same place.  In our case the original 
creator of doc had document fit on one page, on other machines, the might 
be a blank second page, or one or two lines of text on second page. 


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Re: [newbie] installing openoffice quick launch

[JoeHill]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:14:41 +0200
rhein disseminated the following:

 Hello,
 I tried to install openoffice quick launch...
 when I'm in console and running the configure script I get this error 
 message.
 checking for gcc... no
 checking for cc...no
 checking for cc...no
 checking for cl...no
 configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
 
 What does it say in english??? :-)

You need, as others have pointed out below, gcc. However, you will very likely
need a lot more than that, so:

Go to Mandrake Control Center -- Install Packages -- click the arrow beside
'Development' -- check the box beside 'Development'.

There's prolly a whole whack of stuff it's going to install, best to have it all
if you are ever going to be building from source.

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Re: [newbie] openoffice sous win et linux?

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On Thursday 18 March 2004 13:15, Frank Bax wrote:

 I have this problem with OOo 1.1 docs going from one Win98 system
 to another - page breaks are not in the same place.  In our case
 the original creator of doc had document fit on one page, on other
 machines, the might be a blank second page, or one or two lines of
 text on second page.

I don't think it is confined to OOo - in fact I do wonder if it also 
happens with M$Office?  I have just had such a problem with Lotus 
WordPro files, long documents that need line numbering.  At first I 
thought that it was because my copy runs  under Win4Lin, but putting 
the files on another native Win98 machine had the same problem.  
Although the margins and fonts were set identically there was a small 
problem of line length which made the occasional line spill over.  It 
cost many hours of work, and I'm not satisfied that the results are 
safe.

Which brings me to the question - just what could it be that changes?  
If it's really not the fault of OOo as such, what is it?  Is font 
rendering different on different machines?  It would certainly be 
useful to understand the cause of the problem.

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Re: [newbie] Intel 852/855 GM Chipset, 1024x768 Resolution

[Job Evers]

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:16:18 -0500
Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 17 March 2004 07:21 pm, Job Evers wrote:
 
 -From the website:
 -The functionality of 855patch and 855wrap was added to XFree86 and
 should
  be included in XFree86 4.4.x and its betas. So if you have got a
  really new version of XFree86 you may not need 855patch or 855wrap
  anymore. You can also compile XFree86 from the CVS sources. -
 -I just finished installing XFree86 4.4.0 and haven't had any success
 yet
  with getting to 1024x768 resolution.  I found a website:
  -http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/845driver.html that recommends that I
  add a patch to my kernel with agpgart.  I have no idea as of yet how
  to patch my kernel, but I'll attempt to learn tomorrow (too much
  Guinness tonight, I am afraid).  Any advice is more then welcome. -
 
 Have you tried one of the patches just for the sheer unadulterated fun
 of it? Even though you've got a later XFree version? Just download it,
 make it, then copy the executable to /sbin/ and run it from there as
 root. After that, use MCC to try to readjust your resolution.Here:
 
 /sbin/845patch 64000
 
 gives me 64 megs of video memory. 

I gave it a shot, and the fun was pure unadulterated.

./855patch 16384
i855GM chipset found
If you get a segmentation fault, call: ./855patch 16384 nocheck
BIOS currently knows of 12480 kB of VideoRAM
Successfully setting size to 16384 kB

The 16384 number is what was set in my XF86Config-4 file.  I then went
to MCC, changed the resolution, logged out, restarted X and got the same
results.

I might try reinstalling the driver from Intel and see what happens.

 
 Just a thought...
 
 (and I was drinking classic Michelob earlier - but I'd have to drink,
 what? 5 to 1 to match your Guiness? Damned weak American beer)

Guinness: Alc. by Volume 7.5%
Michelob: 5.0%

Its not that weak, but Michelob is not a meal in a bottle.

 
 PS Gotta tell you my worst St. Patricks day horror story. A few years
 ago, before I was married, a buddy of mine and I went to a
 local/popular watering hole called Center Stage, because they were
 advertising green beer for St. Patricks day, at half price. We
 figured something imported, like Heineken or Moosehead, so off we
 went. Guess what the bums did? Took some cheap no-name brand and added
 green food coloring to it. Talk about taste that sucked vacuum
 hard ugh  :-(
 

I'm actually American, grew up in Iowa.  I am on an exchange for the
year.  I was very surprised by how much more effort the US puts into St.
Patrick's Day compared to the British.  As Steven said, we just go out
and get pissed. None of this green beer crap.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi command question

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:33:44 -0800
Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 17 March 2004 04:33 pm, Florian Ahlers wrote:
  Hi everybody:
  Which command option do I have to use to get more information on
  a package
  using urpmi?
  For example: urpmi XX octave to get detailed information on the
  octave package like version or the information shown within
  rpmdrake.
 http://www.urpmi.org/
 
  thanks in advance
 
  Florian

urpmq -i octave

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10 audio related crash

[workshop]

this was no step by step instruction.
If u using mandrake, goodluck. Oh and I never said hotswap it iether. 

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[newbie] XMMS?

[Hoyt Bailey]

I don't quite understand xmms it sounds ok and for the most part works 
fine except it wont continue playing.  I understand it is a clone of 
winamp which worked great on the same songs.

My problem is it will play from 1 to 3 songs before it stops.   When it 
stops it is at the end of the song with 00.00 time remaining in the 
window with the title displayed normally everything else seems to work 
fine but it will not go to the next song in the directory unless I hit 
the next button, play will repeate the song just played.  I can select 
any directory and they all work the same.  Any suggestions would be welcome.

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[newbie] Xnest and Solaris

[Phil Savoie]

Hi All,

I have been tasked with a project to come up with 2 day intro to unix course.  
I would like to use xnest and solaris/mandrake/redhat screenshots.  However, 
xnest does work beautifully linux to linux but not in Solaris.  

What happens is after typing in:

 Xnest -query sparky :1

I get the gui login screen but then upon logging in, the Solaris box running 
CDE *appears* to log in but then reverts back to the gui login screen.

I am hoping that someone out there would be able to toss out some ideas on how 
to fix this.

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

[Aron Smith]

On Thursday 18 March 2004 04:55 am, JoeHill wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 06:09:50 -0700

 Glenn disseminated the following:
   Hmm...in having experienced Cajuns first hand, it'd be rather strange
   to see some at a hockey game...
 
  Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g

 Though, it must have taken some explaining to the fans, initially, that
 there were to be no actual *alligators* on the ice :-D
On the other hand the fans can prounonce the players names

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[newbie] Xmms?

[Hoyt Bailey]

I have a problem with xmms in both KDE  Gnome,  I can understand the 
KDE problem and the program may have been destroyed by KDE or in KDE but 
gnome it seems to work ok.

Mostly it works fine but it plays from 1 to 3 songs and quits,  mostly 1 
song.  When it quits there is 00.00 in the time remaining window and the 
title is running as normal.  If I hit play it will play the song showing 
in the window if I hit next it will go to the next song in the rotation. 
+dir and rand are selected and it will play from 1 to 3 more songs.  Any 
ideas will be helpful.

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Re: [newbie] LCD Monitor-Unusable signal

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On Wednesday 17 March 2004 10:13 pm, Troy Thomas Hall wrote:
 Tom, while we're on the topic of Monitors, When I have to
 switch between XP and Linux I always have to hit the auto
 button.  Can that be stopped?  Also, anyway to make the fonts
 clearer?  I've got the XFT set to 140 which is what I measured
 with GIMP.  They are better now then they were before doing
 that.

   I don't know how some y'all are comin up with very high dpi 
numbers... xdpyinfo:
screen #0:
  dimensions:1280x1024 pixels (382x313 millimeters)
  resolution:85x83 dots per inch

   If I do the Gimp calibration I come up with about 87 dpi.  I 
measured the viewing area with a measuring tape an it was as 
'xdpyinfo' reported, 382x313 mm.  Maybe your 191T is a little 
better than my 191N  but that much !?

I don't have any font issues at 85x83.  I also just use the 
fonts that come with the Mandrake distro.  Usually Luxi Sans and 
Courier 10 Pitch.

   As to the 'Auto' button, it's not an issue for me ... no Winsux 
on the system.  IIRC tho, the (old) fix was to run 'xvidtune' and 
use the modeline it suggests to put in yourXFree config file. I 
always thought it'd be simpler to use the 'Auto' button.  Why 
trash Linux to be as screwed up as Winblows?
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Re: [newbie] mdk10 urpmi problems

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On Wednesday 17 March 2004 10:34 pm, Troy Thomas Hall wrote:
 yep, thanks tom, that helps alot.  Would you recommend adding
 the upall to a cron job?

   No.   Actually I just use it after large updates rather than 
the similar proccesses cron runs at 4AM.
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Re: [newbie] OT Streamripper

[Tom Brinkman]

On Wednesday 17 March 2004 10:50 pm, David E. Fox wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:13:34 -0600

 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I've been playin with it. Seems to work best with 128bit
  streams, and hardly very well at all with streams below that.

 Tom, I'd be curious if you're getting any mp3lib errors towards
 the ends of songs. I think that's one of the reasons why when
 these songs are encoded  saved into each of their separate
 filenames I get snippets of the beginnings of songs.

 About 20 to 30% report mp3lib errors, but the mp3's seems 
fine. Maybe it's the ones tha mp3_check shows bad frames for. I 
didn't keep track.

  So, I recorded about 700mb's of mp3's from 4 different 128
  bit stations.  BadPuppy, Twang City, Kpig/Kfat, and an Oldies
  station.

 For you and Aron:

 Boot Liquor: American roots music for Saddle-Weary Drunkards
 (somaFM)

 I'll check it out right now, Thanks
 :)
 :
  play properly.  Still the sound quality is poor compared to
  mp3's I can d/l _much_much_ more quickly from binary
  newsgroups.

 I don't get this - you get the mp3 in faster than the time it
 takes to play it? That does make sense now that I think about
 it. If you're getting streams of 64kbps then getting the
 equivalent quality over DSL would have to be faster from a
 binary newsgroup - at least potentially, but I note my news:
 connection is nowhere near as fast as say ftp is. And a 64k rip
 is not all that good. I look particularly for 192kbps or higher
 in the binary newsgroups assuming I can find them.

 I ftp the mp3's from newsgroups at 160KB/s.  D/l three or 
four songs in the time it takes one to play.  As you say, most 
binaries on news groups are 192 bitrate.  'Sides, I cheat. I use 
a paid service ... Giganews.  Large, complete selection an they 
keep binaries for a month.

While I think streamtuner is great, I don't have much use for 
streamripper.  Not that there's anything wrong with it. I've yet 
to find an mp3 in those I ripped that contains parts (beginning 
or end) of other streamed mp3's.  I'm usin xmms-1.2.9-4mdk as the 
default player an streamtuner-0.11.1-2mdk  streamripper-1.32-3mdk

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[newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

[Alexandre Aractingi]

Hi all,
I'm about to upgrade a 9.2 system with the new 10.0 one, and I was
wondering if there is any online repository available to configure urpmi
with.
Is 10.0 Community considered Cooker? Am I supposed to point at Cooker
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[newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

[Alexandre Aractingi]

Hi all,
I'm about to upgrade a 9.2 system with the new 10.0 one, and I was
wondering if there is any online repository available to configure urpmi
with.
Is 10.0 Community considered Cooker? Am I supposed to point at Cooker
directories / hdlists?
Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Thursday 18 March 2004 18:08, Alexandre Aractingi wrote:
 Hi all,
 I'm about to upgrade a 9.2 system with the new 10.0 one, and I was
 wondering if there is any online repository available to configure urpmi
 with.
 Is 10.0 Community considered Cooker? Am I supposed to point at Cooker
 directories / hdlists?
 Thanks,
Yes,
If you insist on updating via the web yesbut be in for a very very 
veery long (think days) install session.

Downloading and burning the .iso's is the better option.

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[newbie] kmail

[Hoyt Bailey]

I'm confused again.  If I do a 'locate kmail' I find it and the 
documentation but konqueror going to the spot where locate says it is 
cant find anything. kpackage also cant find kmail, and 'browse 
avaliable' software cant find it with search.  Problem its there but 
nothing but locate can find it so I cant get rid of it and reinstall.  Help!

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Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

[Alexandre Aractingi]

Le jeu 18/03/2004 à 18:16, H.J.Bathoorn a écrit :
 If you insist on updating via the web yesbut be in for a very very 
 veery long (think days) install session.
 
 Downloading and burning the .iso's is the better option.

Thanks for your answer.
Actually I already have the 3 iso's, but I was referring to all the
other apps, contribs for example. Any (stable - frozen?) repository for
them?
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[newbie] Printing to Email using cups and filter

[Montreuil, Scott NALG-CA]

Hello I am currently trying to use a filter to send my print job to be
parsed and then emailed the the To: found within the print text. I have
configured the printer using 

lpadmin -p lpm -i /var/spool/lpd/lpm/filter -v /dev/null 

I check the cups page at port 631 and I see the printer defined 
I try 

lp filecontaining To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

it gets queued /var/spool/cups/c1 
but never does anything. 

Has anyone tried this configuration before and gotten it to work ? 

TIA

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Re: [newbie] linux on xp

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 17:50, Fajar Priyanto wrote:

 Now I love winxp better :)) thanks to Linux.

BITE YOUR TONGUE YOUNG MAN
Love WinXP better -???
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Re: [newbie] Install Problems

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 18:30, Lee Wiggers wrote:
  Simple answer for this: PARTITION MAGIC
  
 Or try even, Partition Surprise: GPLed Partition Magic clone

...who said I *PAID* for my copies of Partition Magic...?

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[newbie] Wierd supermounts

[Kasper Thunoe]

Some part of my system insists on mounting some drives that are already 
mounted under different paths and with wrong options. In this cases its some 
NTFS drives as can be seen from the /etc/fstab shown below:

/dev/hdd1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hdd6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto 
umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 0 
0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c ntfs umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-15,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0
/dev/hdb1 /mnt/win_c2 ntfs umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-15,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hdd5 swap swap defaults 0 0
none /mnt/hd supermount 
dev=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,kudzu,codepage=850
 
0 0
none /mnt/hd2 supermount 
dev=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part1,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,kudzu,codepage=850
 
0 0

Its the two lines I have indicated with . I have erased these two lines 
twice now but they keep returning. So how the heck do i get rid of this as 
they serve no purpose.

TIA

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Re: [newbie] linux on xp

[JoeHill]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:50:36 +0700
Fajar Priyanto disseminated the following:

 Now I love winxp better :)) thanks to Linux.

I can't even begin to describe what is wrong with that sentence.

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Re: [newbie] installing openoffice quick launch

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On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 22:14, rhein wrote:
 Hello,
 I tried to install openoffice quick launch...
 when I'm in console and running the configure script I get this error 
 message.
 checking for gcc... no
 checking for cc...no
 checking for cc...no
 checking for cl...no
 configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
 
 What does it say in english??? :-)
 Bye
 Christophe

Seems like you didn't install all the developement packages...headers
and libs and the likes. You might want to run rpmdrake and make sure gcc
and even the kernel sources are installed - so you can easily compile
programs in the future.

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Re: [newbie] Solving IRQ Conflict

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 23:05, Job Evers wrote:
whack
 The internet does work when I reboot and use the old kernel (2.4.21-0.13).

Have you tried to manually load the proper module for your ethernet?
/lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/net/whateveryourmoduleis.o

You should be able to find out what module loads for your ethernet in
the /etc/modules.conf - and then take it from there...

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 23:55, JoeHill wrote:

  Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g
 
 Though, it must have taken some explaining to the fans, initially, that there
 were to be no actual *alligators* on the ice :-D

Have you ever tried to intelligently explain ANYTHING to a Cajun? C'mon
- next you'll be telling me you have intelligent conversations with
hockey players.

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 00:09, Glenn wrote:

 Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g

That's a scary thought. Does Miami have a hockey team yet?

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[newbie] kopete crash/errors

[Angus Auld]

Greetings, I'm having a bit of difficulty with kopete-0.7.4-0.1.92mdk. 
I have had kopete crash (see attached output), and also swell my 
xsession-errors file to upwards of 20MB! (see attached excerpt 
of .xsession-errors file). The select: Bad file descriptor message 
is repeated for many MB's of lines. :-|

I tried the rpm version of kopete that is on the install cd's, and 
also tried compiling kopete from mdk src rpm.
I'm still experiencing the same errors. Anyone else encounter 
anything like this? I'm using Mdk 9.2 with kernel 2.4.22-28mdk.

TIA for any insights offered.
Best regards to all.

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WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) \x08
  Major opcode:  *
kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined 
symbol: PKCS7_content_freekdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: 
/usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined symbol: OpenSSL_add_all_algorithmskdecore 
(KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined symbol: 
OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms_confkdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: 
/usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined symbol: 
OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms_noconfkdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: 
/usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined symbol: PKCS7_content_freekdecore 
(KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined symbol: 
OpenSSL_add_all_algorithmskdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: 
/usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined symbol: 
OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms_confkdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: 
/usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined symbol: 
OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms_noconfASSERT: m_widget in kaction.cpp (2993)ASSERT: 
m_widget in kaction.cpp (2993)select: Bad file descriptorselect: Bad file 
descriptorselect: Bad file descriptorselect: Bad file descriptorselect: Bad file 
descriptorselect: Bad file descriptorselect: Bad file descriptor
select: Bad file descriptor
select: Bad file descriptor
select: Bad file descriptor
select: Bad file descriptor
select: Bad file descriptor
select: Bad file descriptor
select: Bad file descriptor
select: Bad file descriptor
select: Bad file descriptor(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
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0x415eb656 in waitpid () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0
#0  0x415eb656 in waitpid () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x40cd7fda in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#2  0x41760ca8 in __libc_sigaction () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6
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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

[JoeHill]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 06:33:03 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

   Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g
 
  Though, it must have taken some explaining to the fans, initially, that
  there were to be no actual *alligators* on the ice :-D
 On the other hand the fans can prounonce the players names

Seeing as they are probably all related, I would think so ;-)

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Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

[Derek Jennings]

On Thursday 18 Mar 2004 17:16, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Thursday 18 March 2004 18:08, Alexandre Aractingi wrote:
  Hi all,
  I'm about to upgrade a 9.2 system with the new 10.0 one, and I was
  wondering if there is any online repository available to configure urpmi
  with.
  Is 10.0 Community considered Cooker? Am I supposed to point at Cooker
  directories / hdlists?
  Thanks,

 Yes,
 If you insist on updating via the web yesbut be in for a very very
 veery long (think days) install session.

 Downloading and burning the .iso's is the better option.

 Good luck,
 HarM
Maybe on dial up, I have upgraded two systems from 9.2 to 10.0 by urpmi from 
Cooker, and it took about 2 hours.


You can use Cooker, but the last install I did was from Mandrake-devel/stable   
folder. It worked great.

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[newbie] MS: 'We're very sorry'

[JoeHill]

...and knowing the Justice System, that'll about do it :-/

http://www.crn.com/Sections/BreakingNews/breakingnews.asp?ArticleID=48713

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[newbie] ISO cd not starting

[rhein]

Hello,
I downloaded Vectorlinux as a iso file... and burned it on a cd-rom. So 
there is just one big file on it.
When I make the desktop boot from the cd, nothing happens.
It is the first time I do a iso cd.
Is the file corrupted?
Is there something to add on the cd?
Thanks
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Re: [newbie] Intel 852/855 GM Chipset, 1024x768 Resolution

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 07:15, Ronald J. Hall wrote:

 I swear to you Stephen, that if I ever come into enough money, I'll drop by 
 your way some time, and you can show me 'round :-)

Just waiting, mate!

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Re: [newbie] ISO cd not starting

[Chuck Mattsen]

On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 14:17, rhein wrote:
 Hello,
 I downloaded Vectorlinux as a iso file... and burned it on a cd-rom. So 
 there is just one big file on it.
 When I make the desktop boot from the cd, nothing happens.
 It is the first time I do a iso cd.
 Is the file corrupted?
 Is there something to add on the cd?
 Thanks
 Christophe

I'd wager that when you burned it to CD-ROM you actually just ended up
coping the .iso image over as the one, large file.  You need to select
the option in your burning program that reads something like Burn CD
Image (under Tools in K3B, for example, or similar in other
programs).  Doing so will create the necessary directory structures and
make the disc burned from the .iso into a bootable CD.

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Re: [newbie] ISO cd not starting

[JoeHill]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 22:17:06 +0200
rhein disseminated the following:

 I downloaded Vectorlinux as a iso file... and burned it on a cd-rom. So 
 there is just one big file on it.
 When I make the desktop boot from the cd, nothing happens.
 It is the first time I do a iso cd.
 Is the file corrupted?
 Is there something to add on the cd?

You need to burn the ISO as an 'image'.

What burning software are you using? Whichever it is, there should be an option
'create CD from image or ISO' or something like that.

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Re: [newbie] MS: 'We're very sorry'

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 07:14, JoeHill wrote:
 ...and knowing the Justice System, that'll about do it :-/
 
 http://www.crn.com/Sections/BreakingNews/breakingnews.asp?ArticleID=48713

Nothing will ever change until Microsoft is truly taken down.
Same Old Story since 1992.

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Re: [newbie] Some positive reviews for 10.0 Community

[Charlie Mahan]

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On March 18, 2004 12:31 pm, JoeHill wrote:
  Despite the problems above, I must say that I have re-affirmed my trust
 to Mandrake Linux. All previous Mandrakes were filled with dissapointment
 for me, but this time I believe MandrakeSoft has created something that is
 much-much better than in the past. If MandrakeSoft pulls it off and fixes
 the problems above, they got a winner. In fact, I believe that this is the
 highest score I ever gave to any Linux distro so far.

 Link:

 http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=6327

 Better than 9.2? Wow. I must be missing something, cuz 9.2 is (until I send
 this) pretty rock solid, and I can't think of anything I'm missing.

 Must...resist...urge...to...upgrade...

I wasn't overly enamoured of 9.2 to be perfectly honest. While it was an 
improvement over 9.1 in many ways there were things that I didn't find user 
friendly. Some of the repetitive problems/posts on this and other lists are 
evidence of that IMHO.

rant mode
Don't_need_to_resist_urge_to_upgrade._

Not all is coming up roses for everyone, and I'd be a total jerk if I didn't 
mention my weekend.

Mandrake 10 will not install at all on my system. Period.

One of the systems that RC1 installed on without trouble died a horrible death 
when I tried to upgrade it to 10.0 Community Edition on the weekend. I then 
tried to upgrade via ftp to full cooker with even less success. It self 
destructed to the point that it corrupted the partition table beyond 
recognition and that wonderful trick destroyed the Windows install that was 
on the disk as well.

Recovery required a full low level format and re-partitioning of the hard 
drive with the manufacturer's disk utilities, and a re-install of Windows. 
Since the customer no longer had the RC1 disks, and since Community Edition 
and trying an ftp install from the (then) current boot.iso both tried to do 
the same thing all over again they are running Windows only for now.

They're using a Knoppix disk to satisfy their GNU/Linux jones.

I thought the idea was to get rid of the rest of the FSCKING bugs by using 
Community as a final testing/bug hunting release, then having an Official 
Release, not screw up what was already working. sigh

I'll give it the rest of this week and next; but after that if the same shit 
is happening Mandrake can colour me gone. 

Along with my friends/customers/acquaintances/family.
/rant mode

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Re: [newbie] kdeinit and starting X

[Job Evers]

Awesome, thanks for such a great summary.  Little by little I'm getting things how I 
want them.

Job


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  -What exactly does startx do?
 
 it starts your default desktop
 
 essentialy what it dows is start the X server and run ~/.xinitrc
 if ~/.xinitrc does not exist it starts /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
 
 in mandrake all /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc does is run another script
 /etc/X11/Xsession Xsession starts the firsttime wizard if its the
 first time to run X otherwise it starts the desktop mentioned in
 ~/.desktop or the default system desktop /etc/sysconfig/desktop
 if all this fails it falls down to some hardcoded defaults (like
 trying icewm, then trying twm, then just opening a terminal etc.)
 
 of course these scripts do more (like set your default browser) you'll
 need to read if you really want to know the gory details.
 
 
  -How else can I start the x server?
 
 you could use xinit
 xinit starts an X server and runs the command you pass it (or
 ~/.xinitrc if none exist).
 
 xinit /usr/bin/pekwm
 
 starts an X server with pekwm as the session manager, if pekwm quits
 the X server closed.
 
 or you could do it the very hard way and start the X server on your
 own
 
 X
 
 then attach some client t it,
 rxvt -display :0
 
 or something like that, I never tried it.
 
  -What might be the problem with kdeinit?
  -How would I start a different window manager (gnome, pekwm, icewm,
  ...)?-What does startkde, startgnome and starticewm do?
 
 well best way to start wm's Mandrake knows about (the system knows
 about a wm if it has an entry in /etc/X11/wmsession.d/) is to install
 the package Xtart then run
 
 Xtart
 
 however you could use the xinit command to start any X session, you
 could pass it a wm or even just a single X client (I run wine this
 way).
 
 AFAIK startkde and startgnome are scripts that setup ad start the DE's
 for you you can use these with xinit
 
 xinit `which startkde`
 
 cheers,
 Alaa

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Re: [newbie] Xmms?

[Josenildo Marques]

On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 12:20, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 I have a problem with xmms in both KDE  Gnome,  I can understand the 
 KDE problem and the program may have been destroyed by KDE or in KDE but 
 gnome it seems to work ok.
 
 Mostly it works fine but it plays from 1 to 3 songs and quits,  mostly 1 
 song.  When it quits there is 00.00 in the time remaining window and the 
 title is running as normal.  If I hit play it will play the song showing 
 in the window if I hit next it will go to the next song in the rotation. 
 +dir and rand are selected and it will play from 1 to 3 more songs.  Any 
 ideas will be helpful.
 
Do you mean it crashes after playing the third song ?
Have you tried calling it from a terminal ? If there's something weird
going on, probably you'll be able to see it there.


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Re: [newbie] USB 2.0 compliant

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On Thursday 18 March 2004 21:07, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Thursday 18 March 2004 19:48, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Saturday 28 February 2004 22:30, John Richard Smith wrote:
   Though smart cards are on their way out in UK,
   It's something called XD, I think, used in newer Cameras
 
  Only for Olympus and Fuji, John.
 
   Still, it means anyone who comes around can have their snaps
   done up on my computer regardless of the make of camera.
   No faffing around trying to make cameras recognised
   just for a few hours.
 
  And if you hear of a reader that takes xD cards as well, I'd be
  interested.  It's no real problem, as the camera mounts easily
  enough, still it'd be nice
 
  Anne

 Just this afternoon - while shopping at a local mart here in
 Denmark - I noticed an all-in-one card reader, boasting xD cards
 as well. I just noticed, 'cause I don't see the benefit of it,
 what with having to remove the card from the camera in order to get
 the pics. Just as Anne, I just plug in the camera and off you go.
 But if you are interested, I'll post you the make of the gadget
 ASAP.

 Kaj Haulrich.

Nah - you're right.  It's no more bother to just plug in the camera.  
Still, it's interesting that readers for the cards are starting to 
appear.

Come to think of it, the main purpose of a card reader is to allow 
windows to see what mounting the camera under linux gives you.  Hmm - 
no point, really, is there?

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Re: [newbie] MS: 'We're very sorry'

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On Thursday 18 March 2004 20:14, JoeHill wrote:
 ...and knowing the Justice System, that'll about do it :-/

 http://www.crn.com/Sections/BreakingNews/breakingnews.asp?ArticleID
=48713

Apart from anything else, I'd like to know where he shops.  M$ OSs for 
$50?  XP Pro is £98.25 here.

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Re: [newbie] MS: 'We're very sorry'

[Paul]

On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 22:38, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 07:14, JoeHill wrote:
  ...and knowing the Justice System, that'll about do it :-/
  
  http://www.crn.com/Sections/BreakingNews/breakingnews.asp?ArticleID=48713
 
 Nothing will ever change until Microsoft is truly taken down.
 Same Old Story since 1992.
 
 stephen kuhn - owner

Since the talks with the EU have broken down should be interesting news
on Monday  Wednesday next week.

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Re: [newbie] USB 2.0 compliant

[Ray Hogaboom]

On Thu March 18 2004 4:07 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Thursday 18 March 2004 19:48, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Saturday 28 February 2004 22:30, John Richard Smith wrote:
   Though smart cards are on their way out in UK,
   It's something called XD, I think, used in newer Cameras
 
  Only for Olympus and Fuji, John.
 
   Still, it means anyone who comes around can have their snaps
   done up on my computer regardless of the make of camera.
   No faffing around trying to make cameras recognised
   just for a few hours.
 
  And if you hear of a reader that takes xD cards as well, I'd be
  interested.  It's no real problem, as the camera mounts easily
  enough, still it'd be nice
 
  Anne

 Just this afternoon - while shopping at a local mart here in
 Denmark - I noticed an all-in-one card reader, boasting xD
 cards as well. I just noticed, 'cause I don't see the benefit
 of it, what with having to remove the card from the camera in
 order to get the pics.

Avantages of removable cards.
With my 64MB card for my camera I can have over 300 pictures on it. 
I can remove it from the camera and work on the picture when I have 
time, wile some one else can take the camera and use it. This has 
come in handy when one of the kids are about to leave for a few 
days there ride is waiting out side for them and on the way out the 
door they say can I take the camera. I have also seen cameras stop 
working then you end up with pictures you can not download.

Also I use removable cards like big floppy disk to transfer large 
data and program files from one computer to another.


 Just as Anne, I just plug in the camera 
 and off you go. But if you are interested, I'll post you the make
 of the gadget ASAP.

 Kaj Haulrich.

My card reader is plugged in all of the time. With the camera I 
would not only have to plug in USB cord but also have a plug for 
the AC power supply, or run the batteries down on the camera.

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Re: [newbie] MS: 'We're very sorry'

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 08:00, Paul wrote:

 Since the talks with the EU have broken down should be interesting news
 on Monday  Wednesday next week.
 
 Paul M

Nothings going to change Microsoft. They're going to constantly try to
dictate the software world, dominate the OS world, bullshit the
political and corporate world, and market themselves as the best no
matter what. Unless someone knocks off Gates and Balmer and trashes the
company, nothings going to change.

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Re: [newbie] MS: 'We're very sorry'

[JoeHill]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 23:00:25 +0200
Paul disseminated the following:

 Since the talks with the EU have broken down

Really? Monti didn't bow down to Stevie Ballmer? 

...off to googlenews!

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Re: [newbie] Install Problems

[John A. Smith]

I can't seem to find either thread you mentioned in the list archives. 
But they seem to be current only through 11/03. Is this list archived 
somewhere other than: 
http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/newbie/

-john smith

Job Evers wrote:

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:38:05 -0600
John A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Also, I'm having problems loading X properly. I couldn't get X to run
at all under 10.0. And for some reason in 9.2, when I set my monitor 
resolution as a Flat Panel Display 1024 x 768 the edges of the desktop

extend beyond the montor display. In other words, I can't see the 
perimeter of the desktop, just the center. Any idea why this would be 
happening?

   

I've been having similar problems.  I use the 852 chipset, which is supposed to be similar to the 855.  Might want to take a look at an earlier thread where I asked about this:  
[newbie] Intel 852/855 GM Chipset, 1024x768 Resolution

and also:
[newbie] Zoomed display in GUI
If you're still confused after taking a look at those, come back and we'll see what we can do.

 



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Re: [newbie] MS: 'We're very sorry'

[Paul]

On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 23:22, JoeHill wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 23:00:25 +0200
 Paul disseminated the following:
 
  Since the talks with the EU have broken down
 
 Really? Monti didn't bow down to Stevie Ballmer? 
 
 ...off to googlenews!

See also http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3523232.stm


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Re: [newbie] MS: 'We're very sorry'

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On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 17:51, Anne Wilson wrote:
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 On Thursday 18 March 2004 20:14, JoeHill wrote:
  ...and knowing the Justice System, that'll about do it :-/
 
  http://www.crn.com/Sections/BreakingNews/breakingnews.asp?ArticleID
 =48713
 
 Apart from anything else, I'd like to know where he shops.  M$ OSs for 
 $50?  XP Pro is £98.25 here.
 
 Anne

In my share of the world they advertising they're selling any software
for a reasonable price, payable in 10 months.

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[newbie] Re: Re: Howto restore USB mouse on Toshiba A10 laptop

[John Zoetebier]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:20:20 -0500, Ronald J. Hall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thursday 18 March 2004 04:29 am, John Zoetebier wrote:

-Mandrake still pops up to configure mouse when USB mouse is not 
plugged in.
-Could not find services under Mandrake 9.2.
-Has this tool been moved somewhere else ?

Mandrake Control Center - System - DrakXServices - uncheck harddrake.

That should do it. :-)
Works great, thanks.

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[newbie] Re: Some positive reviews for 10.0 Community

[John Zoetebier]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:33:54 -0700, Charlie Mahan 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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On March 18, 2004 12:31 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 Despite the problems above, I must say that I have re-affirmed my 
trust
to Mandrake Linux. All previous Mandrakes were filled with 
dissapointment
for me, but this time I believe MandrakeSoft has created something that 
is
much-much better than in the past. If MandrakeSoft pulls it off and 
fixes
the problems above, they got a winner. In fact, I believe that this is 
the
highest score I ever gave to any Linux distro so far.

Link:

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=6327

Better than 9.2? Wow. I must be missing something, cuz 9.2 is (until I 
send
this) pretty rock solid, and I can't think of anything I'm missing.

Must...resist...urge...to...upgrade...
I wasn't overly enamoured of 9.2 to be perfectly honest. While it was an
improvement over 9.1 in many ways there were things that I didn't find 
user
friendly. Some of the repetitive problems/posts on this and other lists 
are
evidence of that IMHO.

rant mode
Don't_need_to_resist_urge_to_upgrade._
Not all is coming up roses for everyone, and I'd be a total jerk if I 
didn't
mention my weekend.

Mandrake 10 will not install at all on my system. Period.

One of the systems that RC1 installed on without trouble died a horrible 
death
when I tried to upgrade it to 10.0 Community Edition on the weekend. I 
then
tried to upgrade via ftp to full cooker with even less success. It self
destructed to the point that it corrupted the partition table beyond
recognition and that wonderful trick destroyed the Windows install that 
was
on the disk as well.

Recovery required a full low level format and re-partitioning of the hard
drive with the manufacturer's disk utilities, and a re-install of 
Windows.
Since the customer no longer had the RC1 disks, and since Community 
Edition
and trying an ftp install from the (then) current boot.iso both tried to 
do
the same thing all over again they are running Windows only for now.

They're using a Knoppix disk to satisfy their GNU/Linux jones.

I thought the idea was to get rid of the rest of the FSCKING bugs by 
using
Community as a final testing/bug hunting release, then having an Official
Release, not screw up what was already working. sigh

I'll give it the rest of this week and next; but after that if the same 
shit
is happening Mandrake can colour me gone.

Along with my friends/customers/acquaintances/family.
/rant mode
Apologies for the rant.
Mandrake web site mentiones explicitly that people who want a rock solid 
release should wait for Mandrake Official,
which is relase 2 - 3 months after Community edition.
Mandrake Community Edition is for the explorers under us.
I recently tried mandrake 9.2 for the first time since years on a Toshiba 
laptop.
I am very impressed with the stability (zero defects) and the quality of 
the display under KDE (just is good as Windows 2000, more user friendly 
than Windows XP)
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Re: [newbie] Re: Some positive reviews for 10.0 Community

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 21:32, John Zoetebier wrote:

 Mandrake web site mentiones explicitly that people who want a rock solid 
 release should wait for Mandrake Official,
 which is relase 2 - 3 months after Community edition.
 Mandrake Community Edition is for the explorers under us.
 I recently tried mandrake 9.2 for the first time since years on a Toshiba 
 laptop.
 I am very impressed with the stability (zero defects) and the quality of 
 the display under KDE (just is good as Windows 2000, more user friendly 
 than Windows XP)
 Regards,

...dang - and I'm still running 9.1+

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Re: [newbie] MS: 'We're very sorry'

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On Thursday 18 March 2004 21:30, Josenildo Marques wrote:

 In my share of the world they advertising they're selling any
 software for a reasonable price, payable in 10 months.

Assuming that it's genuine software, I presume that the 'reasonable 
price' is still high for many people?  Not that I'm cynical, or 
anything, but being realistic, a commercial company gets what it can 
for its products.

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Re: [newbie] Install Problems

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On Thursday 18 March 2004 21:21, John A. Smith wrote:
 I can't seem to find either thread you mentioned in the list
 archives. But they seem to be current only through 11/03. Is this
 list archived somewhere other than:
 http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/newbie/

Yup - it's surprising what you'll find on the TWiki:
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MailingLists

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Re: [newbie] Modem Woes-Problem solved

[Langsley T Russell]

On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 12:45, Anne Wilson wrote:
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 On Wednesday 17 March 2004 00:30, Langsley T Russell wrote:
  Thanks to the input from here I was able to solve my modem
  problems.
 
  Thanks for the help.
  LTR  }}:{(
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Please remember - in the interests of other people who may have 
 similar problems, please post what you did to solve the problem.  If 
 it is a problem that may be encountered by many users, it is also 
 useful to put in on the TWiki.
 
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Hi Anne, and all.

I went to the http://start.at/modem as suggested and looked up the modem
in question a 3Com/US Robotics internal PCI modem, model number 0762
The information there:
Chipset data:

Manufacturer
Texas Instruments a custom chipset for U.S. Robotics
Applications
PCI bus full hardware modem.
Linux support
The Kermit family modems are supported by setserial
and the Linux kernel.
Setup hints for older versions of setserial.

Indicates quite clearly that the modem is indeed a hardware modem (which
I already knew). It also indicates that the modem is fully supported,
that I was not so sure of. 

I also have a full hardware PCI modem (different brand etc.)but still a
hardware modem in this machine which works but which MDK 9.2 identifies
as a winmodem.

Taking all of this into account and not wanting to devote any more time
to simply getting a supported modem to work, I returned the internal PCI
modem and replaced it with an external, serial connect modem which
worked immediately. This decision was based on much else I've read here
on this list.

My advice: Don't buy ANY internal modem and expect it to work with MDK
or probably any linux distro. It may well work but it just as well may
not work, no-matter  whether or not it is a fully supported hardware
modem. Why take the chance, go through the aggravation and expense, time
and repeated trips to one's local parts supplier when buying an
external, serially connected, modem will work with no problems.

Perhaps this is an over simplification but it sure seems to me that
there are just too many difficulties associated with any internal modem
and Linux to make them worth even considering. I know when talking to
people I'm trying to convert to linux on the desktop I'm going to
recommend that they go out and buy an external modem.

Of course none of the above trouble shooting would have been possible
had I not had a second machine with a working internet connection. So,
even though I found the information to be interesting and even helpful,
It would be unavailable to anyone whose only PC was the one with the
misidentified/unusable modem. 

If one has Windows installed on the machine with the modem one is trying
to get to work with Linux, one could, of course, log on to the internet
via 
windows to do all of the above. However I consider telling people to use
Windows to solve their Linux problems worse than offering no solution at
at all. 

We, even the complete neophyte, must be able to solve our Linux problems
using Linux. If we can't do that, we can't, at least I can't, with good
conscience, tell people to make the change from Windows on the desktop
to Linux on the desktop. 

I know that there is a good deal of valuable, usable, friendly, support
available to the Linux newbie. I consider this list to be one of those
valued, friendly, sources of support for me. I am equally convinced that
any and all support must be available either in the form of the printed
word, preferably in manuals shipped with the distros, or accessible via
Linux itself, either in the form of user-friendly help programs included
with the OS or via the internet.

It is essential that we, even the complete newbie, be able to solve our
problems with Linux without resorting to ANY other OS.

I hope that wasn't too much of a rant. 

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Re: [newbie] Modem Woes-Problem solved

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On Thursday 18 March 2004 17:07, Langsley T Russell wrote:

 My advice: Don't buy ANY internal modem and expect it to work with
 MDK or probably any linux distro. It may well work but it just as
 well may not work, no-matter  whether or not it is a fully
 supported hardware modem. Why take the chance, go through the
 aggravation and expense, time and repeated trips to one's local
 parts supplier when buying an external, serially connected, modem
 will work with no problems.

Well, if you love a challenge, Times Crossword Puzzle and so on, carry 
on and get your winmodem working - many of them can be got to work.  
But if you value your time and want to use it for something more 
productive, then there's no argument - an external modem is cheap and 
effective.

Glad you saw the light ;-) although I wouldn't have told you that you 
'must' do so.

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Re: [newbie] Install Problems

[Job Evers]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:21:24 -0600
John A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can't seem to find either thread you mentioned in the list archives.
 
 But they seem to be current only through 11/03. Is this list archived 
 somewhere other than: 
 http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/newbie/
 
 -john smith

A listing of the sites that keep an archive:  
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MailingLists

The twiki is a good source of information, and it seems to improve every time I visit 
it.

 
 Job Evers wrote:
 
 On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:38:05 -0600
 John A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 
 Also, I'm having problems loading X properly. I couldn't get X to
 runat all under 10.0. And for some reason in 9.2, when I set my
 monitor resolution as a Flat Panel Display 1024 x 768 the edges of
 the desktop
 extend beyond the montor display. In other words, I can't see the 
 perimeter of the desktop, just the center. Any idea why this would
 be happening?
 
 
 
 
 I've been having similar problems.  I use the 852 chipset, which is
 supposed to be similar to the 855.  Might want to take a look at an
 earlier thread where I asked about this:  [newbie] Intel 852/855 GM
 Chipset, 1024x768 Resolution
 
 and also:
 [newbie] Zoomed display in GUI
 
 If you're still confused after taking a look at those, come back and
 we'll see what we can do.
 
   
 
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] linux on xp

[Aron Smith]

On Thursday 18 March 2004 10:22 am, JoeHill wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:50:36 +0700

 Fajar Priyanto disseminated the following:
  Now I love winxp better :)) thanks to Linux.

 I can't even begin to describe what is wrong with that sentence.
Possibly it was uttered through an Industral size elctric bong?

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

[Aron Smith]

On Thursday 18 March 2004 11:17 am, JoeHill wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 06:33:03 -0800

 Aron Smith disseminated the following:
Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g
  
   Though, it must have taken some explaining to the fans, initially, that
   there were to be no actual *alligators* on the ice :-D
 
  On the other hand the fans can prounonce the players names

 Seeing as they are probably all related, I would think so ;-)
Seeing as how most of the players are Canadian you're probably right ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Modem Woes-Problem solved

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 09:13, Anne Wilson wrote:

 Well, if you love a challenge, Times Crossword Puzzle and so on, carry 
 on and get your winmodem working - many of them can be got to work.  
 But if you value your time and want to use it for something more 
 productive, then there's no argument - an external modem is cheap and 
 effective.
 
 Glad you saw the light ;-) although I wouldn't have told you that you 
 'must' do so.
 
 Anne

Dang - back to this again - well, I for one have never had a problem
with getting internal modems to work - especially winmodems - but if ya
really want to have an external modem, more cables hanging about, an
extra transformer to plug in and yadda yadda yadda, by all means,
external modems are fine. I'll personally stick to my internal winmodems
cuz when ya have the right driver and KNOW how to configure the AT
strings for maximal performance, they're a great, cheap
alternative...but that's IMHO, mind you...

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Re: [newbie] openoffice sous win et linux?

[Lee Wiggers]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:23:44 +
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 On Thursday 18 March 2004 13:15, Frank Bax wrote:
 
  I have this problem with OOo 1.1 docs going from one Win98
  system to another - page breaks are not in the same place.  In
  our case the original creator of doc had document fit on one
  page, on other machines, the might be a blank second page, or
  one or two lines of text on second page.
 
 I don't think it is confined to OOo - in fact I do wonder if it
 also happens with M$Office?  I have just had such a problem with
 Lotus WordPro files, long documents that need line numbering.  At
 first I thought that it was because my copy runs  under Win4Lin,
 but putting the files on another native Win98 machine had the same
 problem.  Although the margins and fonts were set identically
 there was a small problem of line length which made the occasional
 line spill over.  It cost many hours of work, and I'm not
 satisfied that the results are safe.
 
 Which brings me to the question - just what could it be that
 changes?  If it's really not the fault of OOo as such, what is it?
  Is font 
 rendering different on different machines?  It would certainly be 
 useful to understand the cause of the problem.
 
 Anne
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Docs leaving the office are no problem for us because we have to
.pdf them anyway, but any intraoffice exchange is a big pain.

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Re: [newbie] Intel 852/855 GM Chipset, 1024x768 Resolution

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On Thursday 18 March 2004 12:21 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 07:15, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
  I swear to you Stephen, that if I ever come into enough money, I'll drop
  by your way some time, and you can show me 'round :-)

 Just waiting, mate!
Hey DL take Cornbread stephen hasn't had any in years ;-)

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

[Richard Urwin]

On Wednesday 17 Mar 2004 7:42 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Wednesday 17 March 2004 13:32, Allen/Gore/SlackWareWolf wrote:
  You can tell I could use some sleep. I thought your last name was
  Bathroom. ;)

 I'm in a worse conditionjust having my first coffee and trying to
 eat something. You don't want to know how I read your name when I'm
 in that state;-D

Along the same lines, try spellchecking Urwin.

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Re: [newbie] Some positive reviews for 10.0 Community

[Lee Wiggers]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:31:49 -0500
JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Despite the problems above, I must say that I have re-affirmed
 my trust to Mandrake Linux. All previous Mandrakes were filled
 with dissapointment for me, but this time I believe MandrakeSoft
 has created something that is much-much better than in the past.
 If MandrakeSoft pulls it off and fixes the problems above, they
 got a winner. In fact, I believe that this is the highest score I
 ever gave to any Linux distro so far.
 
 Link:
 
 http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=6327
 
 Better than 9.2? Wow. I must be missing something, cuz 9.2 is
 (until I send this) pretty rock solid, and I can't think of
 anything I'm missing.
 
 Must...resist...urge...to...upgrade...
 
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 +++
 14:28:17 up 7 days, 4:58, Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar)
 for i586 ++
 It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes, to blind you
 from the truth... -- Morpheus, in The Matrix, describing
 television news
 
 
Come on in, Joe.  The water's fine.

I accidently upgraded the laptop last week.

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[newbie] kmail?

[Hoyt Bailey]

Well I figured out that kmail was contained in kdenetwork so I 
uninstalled it,  then reinstalled kdenetwork.  Didn't make any 
difference.  I have also uninstalled XFree86, by moving to CLI stopping 
X with top.  Running urpme to remove X,  a couple of programs wouldnt 
allow that  reinstalled with urpmi and no difference.  Now I have two 
options install XFree86 with a src rpm or wipe the entire installation,  
both seem to me like disasters.  Help?

Regards;
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Re: [newbie] MS: 'We're very sorry'

[Kaj Haulrich]

On Thursday 18 March 2004 21:22, JoeHill wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 23:00:25 +0200

 Paul disseminated the following:
  Since the talks with the EU have broken down

 Really? Monti didn't bow down to Stevie Ballmer?

 ...off to googlenews!

Oh, good grief. what blue-eyed Canucks, Americans and Aussies do 
we have here ? - Do you really think the EU is some kind of a 
legal, democratic institution ? - Caring for the good of its 
citizens ?

Think again.

Before wednesday, you'll find the headlines going like this :
 
The EU Commission and Microsoft settles : Microsoft allows certain 
non-Microsoft software into consumer PC's. Microsoft admits 
misconduct and pays a 10.000 ¤ fine.

Of course - as every EU citizen knows - the whole case is nothing 
but a stunt to augment Monti  Co's bribes.

Do I sound misantropic... cynical..? - Well, let us see

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Re: [newbie] Re: Some positive reviews for 10.0 Community

[JoeHill]

On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:53:49 +1100
Stephen Kuhn disseminated the following:

 ...dang - and I'm still running 9.1+

well, if you would sit still for awhile, maybe someone would mail you the 9.2
ISO's ;-)

...unless you've finally got broadband...?

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Re: [newbie] linux on xp

[JoeHill]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:14:53 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

   Now I love winxp better :)) thanks to Linux.
 
  I can't even begin to describe what is wrong with that sentence.
 Possibly it was uttered through an Industral size elctric bong?

That would *improve* logical thinking, not hinder it ;-)

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materialistic things. Today we admire Athens, visit it, preserve the old
temples, yet we hardly ever set foot in Corinth. -- Dr. Harold Urey, Nobel
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Re: [newbie] MS: 'We're very sorry'

[robin]

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On Thursday 18 March 2004 21:30, Josenildo Marques wrote:

In my share of the world they advertising they're selling any
software for a reasonable price, payable in 10 months.


Assuming that it's genuine software, I presume that the 'reasonable 
price' is still high for many people?  Not that I'm cynical, or 
anything, but being realistic, a commercial company gets what it can 
for its products.
That's true, but I think in this case the objection is that they are 
using their monopoly position. There was a similar brouhaha about 
British Telecom shortly after it was privatised, IIRC.

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Re: [newbie] Re: Some positive reviews for 10.0 Community

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 09:46, JoeHill wrote:
 On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:53:49 +1100
 Stephen Kuhn disseminated the following:
 
  ...dang - and I'm still running 9.1+
 
 well, if you would sit still for awhile, maybe someone would mail you the 9.2
 ISO's ;-)
 
 ...unless you've finally got broadband...?

I have this inane habit of moving into areas where I can't get
broadband. Can't get wireless where I'm at now, neither. I have
customers that have broadband, but it's rather slack of me to suck up
their bandwidth ya reckon? I'll wait for the 9.2 ISO's or the 10c ISO's
to get sent...patiently...

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Re: [newbie] LCD Monitor-Unusable signal

[Richard Urwin]

On Wednesday 17 Mar 2004 1:01 am, Langsley T Russell wrote:
 Hi all.
 I bought a beautiful new Samsung 191T plus 19 inch TFT LCD monitor.
 It has a resolution of 1280X1024 @75Hz. I'm running MDK 9.2. When I
 attach the new monitor and reboot everything goes fine through the
 entire boot process, then just as x starts to load (at least I think
 that's what's happening) the screen goes black and I get a dialogue
 box saying unusable signal. I don't see any way around this.

 Is there some way to setup my system using my CRT monitor so that
 when I attach my LCD monitor it will produce a usable signal? Or is
 there some way with the LCD monitor connected to do some sort of
 configuration of my system to make it usable? The monitor came with
 Linux setup instructions but I'll admit I don't really understand
 them and if I can't get a picture at all how can I configure
 anything?

My monitor would work fine at lower resolutions, but I got the same 
thing as you for native resolution. It seems that the monitor 
specification for native res was tight, and it was too close to the top 
end of my (ancient) video card. Close to the top end (and that can 
appear to be a long way off the top end) the card is limited in what 
frequencies it can provide. I solved it by buying a cheap but newer 
card.

eg. If the clock rate of the card is 10MHz, thats a fastest bit period 
of 100ns. It can produce 100ns, 200ns, 300ns, 400ns etc, but nothing in 
between. Those are frequencies of 10MHz, 5MHz, 3.3MHz, 2.5MHz... If 
your monitor needs 3.8-4.2MHz it isn't going to work. But replace it 
with a card with a clock rate of 150MHz and it will work fine.

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Re: [newbie] MS: 'We're very sorry'

[JoeHill]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 23:43:00 +
Kaj Haulrich disseminated the following:

 Before wednesday, you'll find the headlines going like this :
  
 The EU Commission and Microsoft settles : Microsoft allows certain 
 non-Microsoft software into consumer PC's. Microsoft admits 
 misconduct and pays a 10.000 ___ fine.

...there's always hope :-)

But ya, I don't think any legal institution is going to drive a stake through
the heart of MS, it's going to play out more like a dinosaur thing, MS will just
eventually become irrelevant. They're hemmhoraging in the enterprise/server
market to open source alternatives, and the desktop isn't more than a few years
away, even according to the most cynical observers. The SCO thing isn't going to
work, the FUD isn't working anymore at all, they are _doomed_.

Information (and software) will be free because it has to be, not because some
bunch of bureaucrats and lawyers say so, all due respect to the efforts of the
EFF.

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Re: [newbie] Some positive reviews for 10.0 Community

[JoeHill]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:22:50 -0500
Lee Wiggers disseminated the following:

 I accidently upgraded the laptop last week.

LOL! I hate it when that happens. Yer walkin' by the comp with the ISO's, trip,
the CD goes flying into the drive, and on the way down you hit 'enter'.

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Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Thursday 18 March 2004 21:11, Derek Jennings wrote:
 Maybe on dial up, I have upgraded two systems from 9.2 to 10.0 by urpmi
 from Cooker, and it took about 2 hours.

I took that long on a P2, 256M ram box (from 10.0beta2 to CE) using CD-roms, 
You really have bandwidth;)
The P4 work box with 9.2 I've got would do that a lot faster but from what 
I've seen of 10.0 until now..well...OK  (it certainly looks slick), on a 
separate partition maybe, but not for real work, noway.

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Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Thursday 18 March 2004 18:22, Alexandre Aractingi wrote:
 Le jeu 18/03/2004 à 18:16, H.J.Bathoorn a écrit :
  If you insist on updating via the web yesbut be in for a very very
  veery long (think days) install session.
 
  Downloading and burning the .iso's is the better option.

 Thanks for your answer.
 Actually I already have the 3 iso's, but I was referring to all the
 other apps, contribs for example. Any (stable - frozen?) repository for
 them?
 Thanks,

Yes, take a look at easy urpmi or the plf site or...if you're a club member 
download the iso's. 10.0 isn't mentioned as is , it's the current (i.e. 
cooker) repository still.
Bear in mind though that neither cooker or 10.0 (or Community Edition, or 
whatever) is stable enough to be a 100% trustworthy production environment. 
Stable is  a very relative descriptionfrozen says it all;)

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 Power Pack is here

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On Wednesday 17 March 2004 12:52 am, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
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  True, very true. At least I'm still under the 60 kilo limit on weight
  and HAVE actually slept more than two hours per day; gained 2 kilos and
  have changed the diet a tad bit (living right next to the ocean and
  having access to cheap seafood can do that to ya mate).
 
  FISH AND CHIPS?
  YEP.
 
  stephen kuhn - owner
  ==
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 I can almost picture you in my mind Stephen.
 Blue ocean with white sands, there you are relaxing -sun glasses, wide hat,
 hawaiian shirt and a boxer - on a bench under  coconut trees sipping
 tequila with your wireless notebook beside you

just like Gilligian

 . 
 But, waitta sec, no chic at all? ;)
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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

[Lanman]

Aron Smith wrote:

On the other hand the fans can prounonce the players names
Seeing as they are probably all related, I would think so ;-)
Seeing as how most of the players are Canadian you're probably right ;-)
Jealousy will get you nowhere guys! Besides, whaddya got against us 
Canucks, anyway?

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[newbie] test

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Why are these messages bouncing

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