Re: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, here are the specs

1999-10-01 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: Ryan Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, here are the specs


 Okay I have a 15" Axion CL1566 Monitor,

Well at least that's listed as a supported monitor type ISTR.

 a Cirrus Logic GD5446 2MB Video Card.

I would have thought that ought to be ok, but see if you can swap with
someone else to see if another card has similar problems or not - ideally
one that is listed as being supported. S3 can be good - even on a tight
budget.

  Running Mandrake 6.1 on a 200 mhz 32MB RAM with 120MB swap space.

To be honest there are a lot of video cards which rival or exceed that spec
these days.
apart from the swap space of course.

 With this I get windows that bleed and leave traces and are hollow and
half
 way show up ...blah if you know what I mean.  THanks for your patience and
 help.

Your descriptive powers are good - I know exactly what you mean - I've been
there myself quite recently!

I'm out of ideas beyond other cards (it worked for me) - but others (older
and wiser) might help yet.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Ears don't work

1999-10-01 Thread bay56

Can now report that it survies re-installs - so it probably is the known one
which the other fella posted about - I have noticed from time to time it
must involve the powering down end of things, because it's only after it
says that that I get the scollies!

All I get to see it system halted - then rapid scroll - but what is it that
I should see at shutdown? Presumably some message about powering down?

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- Original Message -
From: Ernie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work


 Hey, Just for grins, try running fsck on your Linux partition. This is
like
 win9x's scandisk, and can fix some weird problems.

 Still guessing,

 Ernie


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 From: bay56 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 6:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work


  - Original Message -
  From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 11:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
 
 
   This one is a little beyond me. I do not know if the seg fault matters
   or not. But it may be indicating a problem developing. Do you use
   another OS on the same machine, and if so, do you get the same problem
   at shutdown? If not, you could be experiencing file corruption under
   Linux, and maybe a new install could fix things up ok. Hopefully,
   someone else has greater knowledge on this subject, and can be of
help.
   I think a seg fault could meaan a flakey mem chip, but if so, it would
   show up in another OS as well. Thats why I asked the previous question
   about the other OS. Don't get upset about hardware just yet, and see
if
   the trouble can be fixed with the software. Sorry I couldn't be any
help
   this time,
 
  No worries - it has done it since it was installed as far as I know -
The
  machine is the same in both OSes, but I have the two harddrives in
 caddies,
  and only one is present at any one time. This means I keep them well
 apart -
  I don't wan't anything MS contaminating linux if poss, and Linux is so
  efficient, that in my novice hands it might easily b detrimental to
Win -
  bit like giving a baby a loaded magnum!
 
  Under win I have to say the system appears flawless (yes I know -
 oxymoron!)
  I have no errors at all of any import.
 
  What I find odd, is that for this to happen at all, the report "system
  halted" must be incorrect surely, or at the very least premature?
 
  Plainly some part of the system has other ideas about that, hence the
 error.
 
  It seems to be a "kernal paging request" which prompts the fault. But
it's
  hard to tell for sure - there is so much extra detail it's hard to see
  what's really going on.
 
  Regards,
  Ian
 
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Re: [newbie] Ears don't work

1999-10-01 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work


 It's a problem with the APM drivers and some motherboards. You,
 unfortunately, seem to have one of the many motherboards affected, as
 do I at work. There's a fix for it. Here's the URL to the message in
 the archives detailing the fix:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html

Thanks for that - although to read the message from Axalon - you'd swear it
was a problem with the mother board:

$50 cheap mobo indeed - mine was good value at $200, but a $200 mobo should
be good enough for a stinking bug ridden driver - exception taken Ax.

So much for being able to set up reasonable cost linux system if he's right!
(which I personally doubt, because it works fine under another OS!)

Slag my system all you like Ax, just make sure you got right on your side
first. ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, what a mess

1999-10-01 Thread bay56

- Original Message - 
From: Frank Geter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, what a mess


 I have a Gateway Vivitron 1572, model cpd 15F13

Another one? - there's pattern forming here!

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Re: [newbie] Mounting a Detected SCSI CD-ROM?

1999-10-01 Thread bay56

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From: Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mounting a Detected SCSI CD-ROM?

 if !(axalon_on_track) {

 And thus concludes the showing of "Axalons scsi ignorance"
 }

I believe it's mainly scsi users whose name starts with A.  So my personal
opinion is you get what you pay for, don't buy
a 50$ SCSI Cook book and expect great things, unless your last purchase was
a lottery ticket :)

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Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeat your own risk)

1999-10-01 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeat
your own risk)


  I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody
  remebers the segfault on link insertion right?)
  --
  MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
  --Axalon
   --Axalon

 EXCUSE ME!!  That statement really puts me off!  4.61 is what is in
 Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!??  It was recommended in this forum as an
 acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5.  Now you say this
 new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0
 distribution (which I still am using).  Well, what's that mean,
 EXACTLY!!??  If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it
 shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or
 should it??!!  Sheeesh

Would this be the same software that Mandrake hangs the entire readability
of the docs on? ;-)

Remember that docs are more than anything else read by newbies (excuse the
obvious [they don't read docs] remarks about newbies for a moment!)

Sheeesh!!! is about right!

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Re: [newbie] Ears don't work

1999-10-01 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work


 bay56 wrote:
 
  - Original Message -
  From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:46 AM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
 
   It's a problem with the APM drivers and some motherboards. You,
   unfortunately, seem to have one of the many motherboards affected, as
   do I at work. There's a fix for it. Here's the URL to the message in
   the archives detailing the fix:
   http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html
 
  Thanks for that - although to read the message from Axalon - you'd swear
it
  was a problem with the mother board:
 
  $50 cheap mobo indeed - mine was good value at $200, but a $200 mobo
should
  be good enough for a stinking bug ridden driver - exception taken Ax.

 It is a BIOS problem.  If you'd like confirmation of it, check the Linux
 Kernel mailing list archives.  There was quite a discussion about this
 problem just a few weeks ago.

I'm not convinced a past discussion confirms all that much myself - now if
this machine did not shut down right with the other OS I'd say you had a
point - because that would put it firmly in the category of flawed apm/acpi
machines that most of us that care already know all about. There are a lot
of machines which display the tendency not to work right in this dept.
However if in this instance this machine can perform this function, I am
lead to the conclusion that an os issueing the commands CAN make it happen
on this set of kit - so why not just issue the right commands - evidently
something else is happening here - otherwise it would not shutdown correctly
in BOTH cases.

Now whether there's a case for a further reduced hardware list to be
introduced making certain models of mainboard and their bios sets "not
supported under linux" is another matter entirely.

 $200 motherboard or not, the BIOS vendor screwed up their
 implementation.

And what, in your opinion, have they done wrong?

  So much for being able to set up reasonable cost linux system if he's
right!
  (which I personally doubt, because it works fine under another OS!)

 A quick fix for the problem was already posted (remove the -p from the
 shutdown flags).

Done that - it causes new problems all of it's own. Which prevent it getting
that far in the shut down process.

 Want reasonable priced Linux systems?
 Try a nice surplus 386 ('course,
 you won't be able to run Mandrake on it).  You won't even have APM
 problems with it!

What? you trying to sell me something here? ;-)

 Ranting is one thing, but you've gone a little far...

Sorry officer did not see your badge - where you get that from then? I like
the bit where it says judge! ;-P

  Slag my system all you like Ax, just make sure you got right on your
side
  first. ;-)

 And make sure you've really read the messages about HOW to fix the
 problem before feeling insulted about a problem which DOES exist on your
 system.

I don't remember addressing this to you specifically - why the poor
attitude? - no matter

I have, and it's a broken fix under 6.1

Do you have anything empirical under 6.1 to offer?

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Re: [newbie] Ears don't work

1999-10-01 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work


 bay56 wrote:
 
  - Original Message -
  From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:46 AM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
 
   It's a problem with the APM drivers and some motherboards. You,
   unfortunately, seem to have one of the many motherboards affected, as
   do I at work. There's a fix for it. Here's the URL to the message in
   the archives detailing the fix:
   http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html
 
  Thanks for that - although to read the message from Axalon - you'd swear
it
  was a problem with the mother board:
 
  $50 cheap mobo indeed - mine was good value at $200, but a $200 mobo
should
  be good enough for a stinking bug ridden driver - exception taken Ax.

 It is a BIOS problem.  If you'd like confirmation of it, check the Linux
 Kernel mailing list archives.  There was quite a discussion about this
 problem just a few weeks ago.

 $200 motherboard or not, the BIOS vendor screwed up their
 implementation.

  So much for being able to set up reasonable cost linux system if he's
right!
  (which I personally doubt, because it works fine under another OS!)

 A quick fix for the problem was already posted (remove the -p from the
 shutdown flags).

 Want reasonable priced Linux systems?  Try a nice surplus 386 ('course,
 you won't be able to run Mandrake on it).  You won't even have APM
 problems with it!

 Ranting is one thing, but you've gone a little far...

  Slag my system all you like Ax, just make sure you got right on your
side
  first. ;-)

 And make sure you've really read the messages about HOW to fix the
 problem before feeling insulted about a problem which DOES exist on your
 system.

You know I just wrote you the stinking reply you deserved for a lot of
that - and then used
some intelligence, and trashed it (it was a belter too!) - fact is a lot of
what you say is based
on some incorrect assumptions - things about my system you could not
possibly know, actions which I might have taken which you do not know about.
Mostly though if you ever want to upset me, then get judgemental - that'll
do it every time - but it will get ugly at that point - you have been
warned! ;-)

A good number of the questions you posed seemed to be rhetoric or at least
show
great potential for it, but if you care to post those you really would have
liked
an answer to, then I'll naturally spend time on them.

Just remember, one OS involved does issue a shutdown, and the machine does.
For that reason there's only so far I CAN go go along with your theory.

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Re: [newbie] UDMA don't work in 6.1 with Ali Chipset

1999-10-01 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] UDMA don't work in 6.1 with Ali Chipset


 On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote:
  Hopefully the VIA chipset doesn't have this problem??
 
 The MVP does, I believe.

Now feeling officially discouraged! Starting to wonder if I ought to come
back later when it's all a bit more "machine that I can afford" friendly?
I dunno - I really don't shrug OK, it's not  linux flaw per se, but it's
starting to stack it all up a bit!

I had thought/hoped that linux might be the item for the job in the emerging
far east market - the machine will have to cost very little in that arena,
and an os which costs effectively half the cost of the machine would be
badly placed. So I thought in view of that, Linux would have serious hopes
of becoming a contender in the defacto standard dept. but with this and
other recently revealed issues of hardware - well it's just not going to be
is it? It a damn shame to see it miss the "global bus" for these sorts of
problems.

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Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeat your own risk)

1999-10-01 Thread bay56


- Original Message -
From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeat
your own risk)


 Iantake it easy.  No, the default for the help files is a form of
 KFM not Netscape.  Axalon, although habitually a bit terse is usually a
 big help to just about everyone. (-:

He's fine it's the concept I have an issue with - I can be a bit terse
myself when things like that happen! ;-)

Don't have time for "easy" - gotta make sure this one don't go Amiga shaped!

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Re: [Re: [newbie] Ears dont work]

1999-10-01 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 3:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] Ears dont work]

Michael,

 Easy here Ian,
 I'm not sure you are even aware of which poster you are addressing.

I know exaclty who I was addressing thank you. Can only suggest you re-read
it  join me.

  I believe your original assault was on Axalon.

Indirectly, and in a reply to another  - yes. And you'll have to trust me on
this, but that was NOT an assault. ;-)

  Now you're responding to Steve Philps response to your original assault.

Quite so, and there we go with the assault stuff again.

  You did NOT write hime the "stinking response" HE deserved.

Oh yes I did.

  You wrote to Ax.

Not once, on this issue, at that time.

 Anyway, that's all beside the point

I must disagree - it's almost the entire point!

 Stop being so sensitive.

Well you just do the insensitive for me - ok! You'll be fine.

  Both Steve and Ax are among the most knowledgeable people on this list.

Fine. Sure seemed that way to me - there's others I'd like to mention, but
that'd be a waste of space and time.

  They don't monitor a newbie list because they need advice.

Does seem a tad unlikely doesn't it.

 They give it freely.

Fine - as you say, freely, ie no strings right?

  You and I are here to learn.

Indeed so.

  Let's NOT bl;ast
 those that are in the best position to give us support.

Let's apply our own personal values to ourselves where they best belong
shall we? They might be good for us, but not for everyone else.

I would never dream of letting someone think that I thought they were ok
just so I could get some info out of them - which appears to be what you are
hinting at in there.

On the other hand people always know exactly where they stand with me - I
tend to be direct, but it's my choice, I expect to earn their respect for
that much, not demand it like some would. People are free to choose on that.

 ===

  Mostly though if you ever want to upset me, then get judgemental -
that'll
  do it every time - but it will get ugly at that point - you have been
  warned! ;-)
 ==
 Even with the emoticon, that sounds too much like a threat.

don't be so ridiculous, now who's acting too sensitive - do the phrases
"ironic humour" and "satire" hold any meaning meaning for you?

It's just (slightly darker than most) humour - grow up, stand up, and deal
with it.

  Cool it

I have no idea who you THINK you are - but you appear to be in error.

 young man.

I'll thank you for that if little else - it's been a while. ;-)

It's been great Michael, and now it's over.

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Re: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, what a mess

1999-09-30 Thread bay56

I am guessing you may have an SiS 6326 graphics chipset there - am I right?

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- Original Message -
From: Ryan Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 3:22 PM
Subject: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, what a mess


 I'll do my best to explain this.  I have successfully installed 6.1 on a
 200mhz, 32megRAm, 120megSwap space.

 I don't know if Xwindows is acting right or not.  My windows all combine
 overlapping and leave dragging traces.  My text will mix together and
 somtimes show a double vision type look.  I have tried several different
 configurations using XF86Setup.  I have the monitors orginal specs and the
 video card appears to be configured correctly.  Am I lacking memory?  I am
a
 poor college student so I would greatly appreciate not having to purchase
 more!
 Thanks in advance for any suggestions or ideas to more easily tweak this
 resolution.

 -Ryan

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Re: [newbie] what are these daemons?

1999-09-30 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] what are these daemons?


 On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, you wrote:
  I too would also be interested as to why LinuxConf is a security risk. I
  don't actually intend to make a direct connection out, I'm relying on
Win98
  SE to make my internet connection, but if LinuxConf has other risks, I'd
  like to know about them.
 
 Well, as I said earlier (our messages probably crossed in
 the email. G) it *probably* is a security risk because
 that service MAY be for running LinuxConf from remote. You
 can still run LinuxConf from the local console, even with
 that turned off.
 I'm just going by what my mentor/boss said and
 extrapolating. That's why I go into inetd.conf and comment
 out every service in there...I don't want to leave ANY of
 those services available. :-)

That seems fair enough - after all, who's macine is it anyway! ;-)

I am not certain I can imagine exactly why anyone would actually want to be
able to set things from the web anyway -maybe it has yet to dawn on me. More
probably, I missed the point!

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 to Mandrake 6.1 - - - Worth the effort??

1999-09-30 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: Rick Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Eric L. Damron [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 to Mandrake 6.1 - - - Worth the effort??


 xcdroast already installed.  I think it

is that for every one, or only for scsi users?

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Re: [Re: [Re: [newbie] Upgradeing all packages destroys my system]]

1999-09-30 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [newbie] Upgradeing all packages destroys my system]]

 Let's get past all of the Windows-centric thinking that we've become
 accustomed to.  Full reinstalls are rarely necessary.  Reboots are
 rarely necessary.  Applications do not crash the operating system.

I have for the last few years been an Amiga refugee - forced into exile in
the Win world - and frankly hated it for the most part - every day felt
wrong, like it didn't fit  - now I am a linux newbie (day 6), and in the
last couple of days was starting to notice little niceties which I had
nearly forgotten all about, and almost discovering them afresh. What you
have said has bought back many memories, and much hope for the future -
thanks for it. This could hardly have come at a more pivotal moment for me!

I had become stale and easy to please under Win - what piffle that stuff
really is - only a couple of days ago I found out for myself about the myth
of MS long file names - how can anyone think that an illusion like that is
ever going to succeed at doing anything other than fooling people? The real
macoy is what's called for. Enough of this damn fooling about, time for some
real stuff! OK MS you got one seaked past me - but now I have found you
out - god help you. Your credibility in total tatters now. It's so easy to
get taken in by sales type people these days - and boy does it happen
gradually - how incidious that cancer which is MS. Heads Up - the rats are
amongst the corn!

Sorry to have ranted a little, but some days the scales just fall from the
eyes, and you spot your culprit clear in the sights - I'm not religous by
any stretch of anyone's imagination, but that has to be like what people
mean when they say "a religious experience" - well at least I don't have to
wonder about that now! ;-)

I was going to take it e-mail, but why not share a good feeling? We're all
in this together aren't we?

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Re: [newbie] Multiprocessor and Display

1999-09-30 Thread bay56

NO, but if you find some let me know ;-)
esp. winbond temp sensor monitors - want to see what me fans  temps are
doing - I bet they could look right groovy under Gnome! ;-)

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- Original Message -
From: Gustavo Viola [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Multiprocessor and Display


 On qua, 29 set 1999, bay56 wrote:
  Ah, yes - you could try some hardware monitoring software - Sandra from
  scisoft, and an assortment from Entech should get you all the info you
could
  wish for - just need to snoop the settings you use in Win - write em
down,
  paste em in! Should be reasonably do-able.
 SNIP
  Regards,
  Ian
 
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 Does anyone know any similiar piece of software for Linux?

 Regards,
 /Gustavo




Re: [newbie] what are these daemons?

1999-09-30 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:31 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] what are these daemons?


 On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote:
 
  I am not certain I can imagine exactly why anyone would actually want to
be
  able to set things from the web anyway -maybe it has yet to dawn on me.
More
  probably, I missed the point!
 
 Just a guess here.remote management of servers??? ;-)

Wouldn't that pose a security risk.oh right that's kinda where
we came in! ;-)

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Re: [newbie] what are these daemons?

1999-09-30 Thread bay56

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From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] what are these daemons?


 Because my Linux server is sitting in a closet without a monitor.

So that's how to get some sleep! ;-)

  Or
 because the other server is 3 hours away, without a monitor or personnel
 available who could help if they wanted.

Sure is a big place you have there mister! ;-)

  Think beyond the desktop... :)

I plan to do far more than that after I get this darned modem/kppp thing
figured out!

I think I'm across it though!

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Re: [newbie] Forcing Network card to read off of 10baseT

1999-09-30 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:32 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Forcing Network card to read off of 10baseT


 And after pricing a decent pair of crimpers, you'll find that hub
 looking more and more likely.  Besides, with a crossover cable you're
 absolutely, positively limited to two machines.  With a hub you've got
 growing room.

and then sods law dictates you wont be able to afford anything to plug into
it because you've done your cash on the hub and 2 bits of wire! - get the
scissors and sticky tape to it I say! ;-) (I can be a right little slime
ball sometimes!)

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Re: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, what a mess

1999-09-30 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Garbled Lines and slow windows, what a mess


 On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote:
  I wasn't even aware that I could select an alternative X server.  I have
  2meg of video ram.  I just did the vanilla flavor install.  Thanks for
your
  help.
 
 Ahh...Ok. You still haven't told us *BRAND* names of video card and
 monitors. :-) We'll need that kind of info to help further. :-)
 Assuming you have average to superior intelligence (IMNSHO, most
 people running Linux have at LEAST average intelligence G)

Erm, the pedant in me has to point out that he's still trying to run it! ;-)

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Re: [newbie] CDWR and Zip

1999-09-29 Thread bay56

OK John, thanks for the confirmation - now can you tell me please - if I
want to emulate scsi (for the burner), then when I do finally make my (full)
reinstall, should I say yes or no to scsi at install time - just wondering
how self propelled the emulation is, and whether or not it needs to borrow
bits off of the normal scsi install.

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- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:55 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] CDWR and Zip


 On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, you wrote:
  I really hope you get a good answer to this from someone who knows for
  ure  - I have the same setup with an LS120 substituted for the Zip
(which I
  gave to a friend!)
 
  but to get you started in A direction;
  I am guessing they will be something like:
 
  hda---Primary MasterHD
 
  hdb---Primary Slave  CD
 
  hdc---SecondaryMasterCD [burner]
  (not sure what to do about that yet, but looks like some kind of scsi
  pretence is going to be called for)
  (why the blazes don't people accept that burners actually come in two
  flavours of electronics?)
 
 This is correct. You must load ide-scsi (emulation?) in order to use
 an IDE burner. I know it sucks, but at least you'll be able to
 get it to work, whereas AFAIK, there is no support (yet) for
 Paralell-port scanners, etc.
   John




Re: [newbie] what are these daemons?

1999-09-29 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] what are these daemons?


  linuxconf
 Potential security risk. Don't run it.

Where could I read up about that? I already ran it, but will leave it out
next install if it's that bad. Darn - seemed quite useful too! sigh

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Re: [newbie] CDWR and Zip

1999-09-29 Thread bay56

Good grief - I actually manged to help for the first time - well I'll be
damned! ;-)

Erm wanna share the url for that paper at the gazzette please? - mine is
not quite right yet - sod's law ;-)

I'm nearly there myself!

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- Original Message -
From: Thomas  Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] CDWR and Zip


 Than You Ian.

 I found the paper I was looking for at "Linux Gazzet '  that gave me
exactly
 what I needed. Every thing I had found was for Par Port and mine is Atapi.
Got
 it up and running on all four drives

 Thanks again




 bay56 wrote:

  I really hope you get a good answer to this from someone who knows for
  ure  - I have the same setup with an LS120 substituted for the Zip
(which I
  gave to a friend!)
 
  but to get you started in A direction;
  I am guessing they will be something like:
 
  hda---Primary MasterHD
 
  hdb---Primary Slave  CD
 
  hdc---SecondaryMasterCD [burner]
  (not sure what to do about that yet, but looks like some kind of scsi
  pretence is going to be called for)
  (why the blazes don't people accept that burners actually come in two
  flavours of electronics?)
  (this seems more ostritch than penguin at this point, but I doubt if the
  linux community started it!)
 
  hdd---SecondarySlave  HD (treat it like a cd rom since it's
  removeable media?)
 
  You'll need a directory for each in mnt I think (certainly about to try
that
  idea myself)
 
  Also an entry of some sort in fstab reflecting the above arrangements
(will
  trial and error that bit till it stops objecting)
 
  Of course if someone actually knows what to do - then please don't just
sit
  there watching me make a total bags of it! ;-)
 
  Hope it's of some value shrug
 
  Regards,
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  - Original Message -
  From: Thomas  Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 4:42 AM
  Subject: [newbie] CDWR and Zip
 
   Ok I give . I am tryiong to find my CDw and IM Zip. I can see on boot
up
   that they are being loaded.  I even find them listed under block
   devices. But I cannot find the command string to access them. I want
to
   set up a link to mount them on my desk top as I have for my 3.5 and
   CDrom.
  
   I have plenty of documentation on making the links for the floppy and
Cd
   but nothing on how to locate the extras. My regular CD is as slave to
my
   HD on my Primary IDE ATAPI  slot of my Mother Board. My CDWR and Zip
are
   master and slave in said order on my Secondary IDE ATAPI slot.
  
   Please give  me some feed back on how to locate them.
   Thanks Thomas
  
  





Re: [newbie] loading imwheel at x startup?

1999-09-29 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] loading imwheel at x startup?


 AFAICT, it's *supposed* to scroll in Netscape, but it doesn't do that
 here... the ONLY thing it's good for, AFAICT, is for pasting after
 cutting. :-)

Well it doesn't do it here, but that is because N is as bad in linux as it
is on every other platform - it appears that it sucks universally! ;-)

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Re: [newbie] SBLive! under 6.1 - update

1999-09-29 Thread bay56

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] SBLive! under 6.1 - update


 I really don't want to start knocking Mandrake at all here as i'm sure
they
 have plenty enough to do already (!), but i have to admit IF (and only if)
 this simple recompile works and doesn't screw anything else up, then yes i
 really do agree.

From what I have seen so far they are pretty diligent, this opportunity is
unlikely to pass them by completely!

 That said i know that nobody in Linux circles is happy with Creative at
the
 moment on the subject of the SBLive! and lack of willingness to release
 technical info on it (without forking out a small. Maybe that may have an
 impact.

Well as long as they keep that approach up - they are vulnerable - it would
only take one product that fits the bill just right, and the linux community
at large to find that out, and Creative could see a lot of their own
product, but second hand, hit the streets, and once that happens the
perceived value of Creative stuff could fall quite badly. Double whammy -
less sales  less potential for them at current prices!

They are for the first time in a long time vulnerable to predation from a
small but alert pacific rim card maker - now that's going prove
interesting! - Now if only we knew which one, we'd be forming and orderly
(or otherwise) queue at their factory door! ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Multiprocessor and Display

1999-09-29 Thread bay56

Ah, yes - you could try some hardware monitoring software - Sandra from
scisoft, and an assortment from Entech should get you all the info you could
wish for - just need to snoop the settings you use in Win - write em down,
paste em in! Should be reasonably do-able.

Try looking round the sites that support your video card (not the makers
site!) there's hackers all over the place who like to twiddle with the HW
and read the new figures they just wrung out of their pride and joy - those
guys will be laden with diagnostic tools quite often!

Just the tools you need in fact ;-)

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- Original Message -
From: lalala lalala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Multiprocessor and Display



   As I said before, I have 15inch Gateway Vivitron
 1572... I can do 1024 x 768 with true 16 bit colors
 w/o problem in win95. What is the "safe" setting for
 me if I do choose to custom set my monitor config?


 --- John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, you wrote:
   Does anyone know if Linnux supports
  multiprocessors? I
   am planning on getting Dual Celeron system...
  
  Very much so. Typically, as you install it, it will
  automatically detect the multi-processor setup.
  However, if
  you install it BEFORE having both processors, you
  will have
  to manually install the SMP kernel afterwards.
   Also.. I have a Gateway Vivitron 1572
  15inch monitor.. it's not listed in the Xconfig's
  monitor
   list. Will this have an effect on Xserver? I chose
  so
   many different ones (including the closest one -
  Gateway
   Vivitron 15inch) but none of them work. I tried
  going
   to gateway's site and look up refresh rates
  (they're
   all aroun 60-70 Hz but did not list
   horizontal/vertical refresh rates).
  
  You may have to choose a fairly "safe" set of
  refresh rates
  and experiment until you find the right settings.
  Other
  than that, you're on your own. The system I have is
  a
  "generic" 17" monitor that I swapped for a "generic"
  15"
  monitorno X changes required. Probably because I
  chose
  some "generic" settings.
  John
 

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Re: [newbie] loading imwheel at x startup?

1999-09-29 Thread bay56

Thanks for that reminder - I am still struggling with finding the right docs
for most things at the moment - only been at it since last Friday night! I
find 'em sometimes though!

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- Original Message -
From: pete moss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] loading imwheel at x startup?


 read the docs that come with imwheel.  he gives a very simple, and
 detailed method for getting it to work as a three button mouse and a
 scroll mouse together.  i have a trackman marble+ that scrolls perfectly
 in X and acts like a three button mouse.  you need to turn OFF 3 button
 emulation.

 :P


 Jeanette Russo wrote:
 
  Reading both these web pages only confused me is there just a simple
  explanation of how to get this working?
  I am using a logitech firstmouse with scroll wheel and can't seem to get
it
  to work.  Three button emaulation is on and it is configured as ps2
logitech
  scrollwheel mouse.
  Jeanette
  - Original Message -
  From: Mike Fieschko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 6:16 AM
  Subject: [newbie] loading imwheel at x startup?
 
"pete" == pete moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   pete what do i need to do to get imwheel to startup whenever i
   pete startx?  :P
  
   One way is to put
  
   imwheel -k
  
   in your .xinitrc
  
   See http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll and
  
   http://solaris1.mysolution.com/~jcatki/imwheel/
  
   --
   Mike Fieschko, West Orange, NJ, USA
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   which one falls, only one at which one stands." [G.K. Chesterton,
   Orthodoxy]
  




Re: [newbie] CDWR and Zip

1999-09-29 Thread bay56

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] CDWR and Zip


 scsi is the native way to talk to devices like CDRs, which makes
 scsi-emulation the more natural way to do it

I'm sure not going to pick a fight over it, but I think the words "was" ,
"made"  "in those days", could do with being sustituted in there today! ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Large HDD how to partition??

1999-09-29 Thread bay56

Ah, and thank you for drawing that distinction!

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From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Large HDD how to partition??


 Nope. The kernel MUST be in the first 1024 Cylinders of a
 hard drive. ANY hard drive. Whether that means you have to
 create a small Linux partition BEFORE Windows, or whether
 you have to put it on another hard drive entirely, then
 that's what it means. After that, size really is not
 important.
 



Re: [newbie] Kernel recompile

1999-09-28 Thread bay56

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Subject: RE: [newbie] Kernel recompile



 Unfortunately, bloomin excellent idea or not, at the moment the person(s)
 who say they have it working aren't being all that quick about coming
 forward with the relevent info. Obviously they may just be away from their
 computers for a day or two - we'll see.

 I may try and investigate myself at the weekend to see what these magic
 options are, but without any clues it may well be like looking for a
needle
 in a haystack!

Well I'll wish you good hunting - luckily time is on all our sides! It's not
like the world would stop for want of a fix - but great once it is done!

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Re: [newbie] Ears don't work

1999-09-28 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work


 This one is a little beyond me. I do not know if the seg fault matters
 or not. But it may be indicating a problem developing. Do you use
 another OS on the same machine, and if so, do you get the same problem
 at shutdown? If not, you could be experiencing file corruption under
 Linux, and maybe a new install could fix things up ok. Hopefully,
 someone else has greater knowledge on this subject, and can be of help.
 I think a seg fault could meaan a flakey mem chip, but if so, it would
 show up in another OS as well. Thats why I asked the previous question
 about the other OS. Don't get upset about hardware just yet, and see if
 the trouble can be fixed with the software. Sorry I couldn't be any help
 this time,

No worries - it has done it since it was installed as far as I know - The
machine is the same in both OSes, but I have the two harddrives in caddies,
and only one is present at any one time. This means I keep them well apart -
I don't wan't anything MS contaminating linux if poss, and Linux is so
efficient, that in my novice hands it might easily b detrimental to Win -
bit like giving a baby a loaded magnum!

Under win I have to say the system appears flawless (yes I know - oxymoron!)
I have no errors at all of any import.

What I find odd, is that for this to happen at all, the report "system
halted" must be incorrect surely, or at the very least premature?

Plainly some part of the system has other ideas about that, hence the error.

It seems to be a "kernal paging request" which prompts the fault. But it's
hard to tell for sure - there is so much extra detail it's hard to see
what's really going on.

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Re: [newbie] loading imwheel at x startup?

1999-09-28 Thread bay56

I have no idea if my findings will help find a fix, but since I wanted wheel
support for my intellimouse V1.1a - I have issued the command from the
console from time to time, but never seen the scroll wheel work - however I
often get a response that it is already running (wasn't my doing!) and might
behave oddly - I use KDE and gnome - but mostly gnome.

At install I have always said no to ANY emulations on any of the hardware -
I wanted to see what Linux was like at base level before complicating things
by getting clever! Since it does not seem to be working, then whatever you
do may not get the result we would all wish for. It may be that be are
seeing the birth of a bug? Perhaps it needs an update?

As a side issue - I have felt it must be possible to have the click on the
wheel serve as middle mouse button, anyone know if this has been done, and
if so, how?

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- Original Message -
From: pete moss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] loading imwheel at x startup?


 this doesnt work.  whenever i put this in ~/.xinitrc, X refuses to
 start.  if i rm .xinitrc, then x runs fine.  i have been using gnome
 lately.  when i used kde, i just linked it from my autostart folder and
 it worked everytime.  is there another method besides using the .xinitrc
 file?

 :P


  One way is to put
 
  imwheel -k
 
  in your .xinitrc
 
  See http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll and
 
  http://solaris1.mysolution.com/~jcatki/imwheel/
 




Re: [newbie] Ears don't work

1999-09-28 Thread bay56

Many thanks - It's always the way - I just answered another post on this,
and here I am reading the solution! ;-)

Just have to hope that what's written there is something I can understand!
(and fix!)

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- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work


 On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, you wrote:
 
  Thanks, I have since discovered that my system may have another
problem -
  this tar command (generically) appears to do nothing, there is a long
wait
  while nothing actually happens!  On the plus side it does not actually
crash
  ;-) and ctrl C gets me the cursor back.
 
 How are you calling "tar"??? Be sure whatever command
 you're using includes the "f" switch (as in tar xvf) to
 tell it you're referring to a file, not a local console,
 etc.
  I have noticed
  also that when I issue "shutdown -h now" that it claims
  the  sytem is halted - but after a brief pause it then
  says it can't acknowledge  a page request of some kind,
  and after much meaningless (to me at least)  output
  finishes off suggesting there's a segmentation error. Now
  this as far as I know it has always done, but I have not
  seen the core dump go into  action before.Since
  it's already claimed that system has been halted, does the
  seg error actually matter anymore? After all it shows up
  after everyone else has gone  home for the day! (ie after
  halted)
 
 Don't sweat it. It's a buglet. There's a minor work-around
 for this. Go to the linux-mandrake "newbie" archives:
 http://mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/
 and search for "gpf on shutdown" or go directly to the
 following message URL:
http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html






Re: [newbie] SBLive! under 6.1 - update

1999-09-28 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 6:30 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] SBLive! under 6.1 - update


 Recompiling a kernel is not exactly newbie key by key stuff!! Okay, it's
not
 THAT difficult, but lets at least give me a chance to suss out whether
doing
 it will solve the SBLive! problems or not. If it does, lets figure out the
 best way to walk anyone through it that wants to.

 If it doesn't solve the problem, then there's no point in bothering.

 Unless of course you want help to recompile the kernel for other reasons
 ;o). If that's the case i'm sure someone could point you to a decent howto
 or something. All the resources that i've had anything to do with in the
 past have gone out of their way to ensure that newbies really don't have
to
 recompile their kernel!!

In that same sensible vein - it seems Mandrake could do worse than pay
attention to this in their release strategy - SBLive-value is hardly rare!
Making sure the kernal is available in a suitably receptive compiled state
looks like a good move for them too. I know other ways exist, but this does
at least make some sense in the linux-evangelist stakes.

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Re: [newbie] CDWR and Zip

1999-09-28 Thread bay56

I really hope you get a good answer to this from someone who knows for
ure  - I have the same setup with an LS120 substituted for the Zip (which I
gave to a friend!)

but to get you started in A direction;
I am guessing they will be something like:

hda---Primary MasterHD

hdb---Primary Slave  CD

hdc---SecondaryMasterCD [burner]
(not sure what to do about that yet, but looks like some kind of scsi
pretence is going to be called for)
(why the blazes don't people accept that burners actually come in two
flavours of electronics?)
(this seems more ostritch than penguin at this point, but I doubt if the
linux community started it!)

hdd---SecondarySlave  HD (treat it like a cd rom since it's
removeable media?)

You'll need a directory for each in mnt I think (certainly about to try that
idea myself)

Also an entry of some sort in fstab reflecting the above arrangements (will
trial and error that bit till it stops objecting)

Of course if someone actually knows what to do - then please don't just sit
there watching me make a total bags of it! ;-)

Hope it's of some value shrug

Regards,
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- Original Message -
From: Thomas  Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 4:42 AM
Subject: [newbie] CDWR and Zip


 Ok I give . I am tryiong to find my CDw and IM Zip. I can see on boot up
 that they are being loaded.  I even find them listed under block
 devices. But I cannot find the command string to access them. I want to
 set up a link to mount them on my desk top as I have for my 3.5 and
 CDrom.

 I have plenty of documentation on making the links for the floppy and Cd
 but nothing on how to locate the extras. My regular CD is as slave to my
 HD on my Primary IDE ATAPI  slot of my Mother Board. My CDWR and Zip are
 master and slave in said order on my Secondary IDE ATAPI slot.

 Please give  me some feed back on how to locate them.
 Thanks Thomas





Re: [newbie] Ears don't work

1999-09-27 Thread bay56

Just you so far - and thanks for it! ;-)

 'tar -xvzf fname' The z incorporates an unzip

where tar is a console command (which should already be included in
mandrake?), -xvzf are switches, and fname is my file to decompress?

I'll give it a try, and see if you post any twists to beware of later! ;-)

I may know some about Windoze - and rather more about Amigas, but zero about
linux! ;-)

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- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 11:50 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Ears don't work


 I'm doing a bit of catchup on the list right now, so i'm sure someone will
 have already answered, but just in case...

 'tar -xvzf fname' The z incorporates an unzip.

 Martin.


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of bay56
  Sent: 26 September 1999 22:23
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
 
 
  I would love to try this myself, but I am only a couple of
  days into linux,
  and I can not find out how to deal with the compression
  format this driver
  came in. It seems that in it's default form Mandrake has no
  knowledge of
  what seems to be some kind of gzip/tar combination.
 
  What do I need to deal with that file as downloaded from
  creative? it's
  called sblive-0.2b.tar.gz
 
  I have to use my winbox to grab files at present (while I get
  Linux pulled
  together enough to do it) I then transfer to LS120 disk - and
  in the first
  couple of days I have managed to get linux to see this drive
  and even copy
  the files to the linux partition (where I am keeping these
  kind of support
  files). I can't be far off the right method, because I have managed
  (somehow) to install star office this way - but this has me a
  bit stumped. I
  have no clue where to look to find out how to de-compress the
  file to even
  attempt what you outlined - but want to try it.
 
  I am using Mandrake 6.0 Venus - and hopefully 6.1 Helios in
  next few days
  when I can lay hands on it.
 
  Can you suggest an approach please?
 
  Regards,
  Ian
 
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 - Original Message -
 From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 11:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work


  Try the command "sndconfig" without the quotes from a console window.
  Then follow the on screen instructions. One thing I have noticed on my
  system is that the sound card output volume is very low, and so you must
  listen carefully when the util plays the test sounds. Even if you only
  think you hear something from your speakers, answer yes to the test
  question "Did you hear the Sound?" or something like that. Also, if the
  speakers are amplified, turn up the volume before running sndconfig.
  This may help. You can read up on the util with "man sndconfig". To get
  out of the man util press "q". I hope this helps.
 
  Ernie
 
  Thomas  Peter wrote:
  
   I am a total newbie. I've  had a computer for 1 1/2 years.  I never
   worked with Dos. I got sick of Win 98 always crashing.  I have
   everything running  except my sound card.
   I am running Mandrake 6.0 and my sound card is a Sound Blaster Live. I
   went to their download site and downloaded the driver.  It has two
ways
   to execute it, automatic and manuel.  When I try to use its self
   install. I get the error "can only run executibles on local disks
only".
   I thought that was what my hard drive was.  I even tried to install it
   the manul way but had no luck at that either.
   Creative is not offering any help for linux at this time. Do you have
   any suggestions.
  
   Thomas
 
 





Re: [newbie] Ears don't work

1999-09-27 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work


 Ianclick on your home directory icon on the deskyop or in the Panel
 area at the bottom of the desktop.  Navigate to where you put the file
 (if you'd downloaded it with Netscape in Linux it would already be in
 the directory where the icon opened the window).  Now right click on the

Many thanks - I suspect this is under KDE (since it looks like something I
don't readily understand - I'm using gnome mostly) I will try this under KDE
though - it's going to come in handy some time or other, and sooner rather
than later I'd guess!

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Re: [newbie] Ears don't work

1999-09-27 Thread bay56


- Original Message -
From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work


 I hope this helps. You can learn about the switches for the tar command
 in the man page. Read it using "man tar". You can also read about the mv
 command with "man mv". and mkdir with "man mkdir". To learn about the
 man command run "man man". There is a wealth of great info in the man
 pages. Thaat is where I have found 99% of what I need to know. They are
 not easy to understand all the time, but once you get used to them it is
 not so bad.

Thanks, I have since discovered that my system may have another problem -
this tar command (generically) appears to do nothing, there is a long wait
while nothing actually happens!  On the plus side it does not actually crash
;-) and ctrl C gets me the cursor back.

I noticed that the system has also now generated a core file, and I get the
impression that this is not such good news! For now I have simply deleted
it - because I have no idea how to use it usefully, and suspect that a
reinstall is on the cards quite soon. It has not always done this, so I am
fairly hopeful I can install it without the tendency to eject the warp core!
Deleteing at least allows me to see how often it does this. - so far just
once.

I have noticed also that when I issue "shutdown -h now" that it claims the
sytem is halted - but after a brief pause it then says it can't acknowledge
a page request of some kind, and after much meaningless (to me at least)
output finishes off suggesting there's a segmentation error. Now this as far
as I know it has always done, but I have not seen the core dump go into
action before.

Since it's already claimed that system has been halted, does the seg error
actually matter anymore? After all it shows up after everyone else has gone
home for the day! (ie after halted)

Regards,
Ian

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Re: [newbie] Kernel recompile

1999-09-27 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: Bernhard Rosenkraenzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Kernel recompile


 On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I would like to recompile my kernel so as to allow support for the
SBLive
  under 6.1 (apparently this is possible),

 This doesn't have anything to do with recompiling the kernel.

You'll no doubt be thrilled to hear that some kind soul out there on the web
is telling us newbies a different version of events - I've read it too -
recently, damned if I can remember where now though!

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Ears don't work

1999-09-27 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work


 Ianwhoops!  Yes, it is referring to KDE.  Sorry, I assumed you were
 using the Mandrake/KDE default.  Sorry.

Thank god I guessed right - it took a lot to come up with even one guess!
;-)

Mind you I am no further forward with the actual file content thanks to
Creative - see sblive posts elsewhere! ;-)

Thanks for the tip!

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Ears don't work

1999-09-27 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: Darcy  Emily Baston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work


  I may know some about Windoze - and rather more about Amigas, but zero
 about
  linux! ;-)

 Yeah, I'm not so diligent with the command line tar myself either.

Not exactly fun is it! ;-)

 And I've got an A1200 not getting as much attention heh.

Hmmm. I have a plan for mine - it's going onto the serial as another
terminal! Loads of linux bsd stuff for amigas - I am SO glad I kept her when
nearly everyone I know sold theirs - I got my A1200 towered too - this is
going to be just fine in this happy set of circumstances! Not sure about X
client yet, but that might be do-able too! We shall see...

 If you got KDE running, it's
 got an 'archiver' program that almost works like Dopus Magellan on the
 Amiga. A nice mouse driven archiver for tar. It's the only one I use for
 Linux compression work.

 Yup, found it now - I wish I'd known it had to be KDE in the first place!
;-)

Regards,
Ian

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Re: [newbie] SBLive under 6.1

1999-09-27 Thread bay56

- Original Message -
From: Aaron deRozario [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 3:12 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] SBLive under 6.1



 If you don't have a good old fashioned ISA sound card, what are you going
to do
 with those three empty, never going to be used for anything else, ISA
slots?

Well sorry to be a pooper, but I only got two, and one of them is a shared -
the other is filled with Yamaha SW60XG Midi board. If I didn't own that, I
would have gone for 6 PCI Mobo in the first place, instead of this rather
tragic 1-5-2 compromise.

I may yet fill isa 2 with modem card, since there does not appear to be
anyway to get my V90 flashed USR courier VEverything to use V90 under linux
(unless you know different, in which case I'd appreciate some idiot proof
info!) I figure if it's going to be only 33.6 then it may as well be inside
the box and out of my way! ;-)

Regards,
Ian

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Re: [newbie] StatrOffice 5.1

1999-09-27 Thread bay56

Just for future reference on yet another install - what's that all about,
and where does one get the choice?

Regards,
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- Original Message -
From: Brett Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] StatrOffice 5.1


 Did you install it with the  /net switch?

 Belzebub wrote:
 
  I downloaded and installed Star Offie 5.1 on my Mandrake 6.0
  distribuition. I made an updated CD just before 6.1 came out, so I have
  a custom CD with all the last updates before 6.1. My kernel is 2.2.13.
  After the installation finished, I am able to run the application as
  root or superuser, but as a regular user. Any suggestions?




Re: [newbie] Ears don't work

1999-09-26 Thread bay56

I would love to try this myself, but I am only a couple of days into linux,
and I can not find out how to deal with the compression format this driver
came in. It seems that in it's default form Mandrake has no knowledge of
what seems to be some kind of gzip/tar combination.

What do I need to deal with that file as downloaded from creative? it's
called sblive-0.2b.tar.gz

I have to use my winbox to grab files at present (while I get Linux pulled
together enough to do it) I then transfer to LS120 disk - and in the first
couple of days I have managed to get linux to see this drive and even copy
the files to the linux partition (where I am keeping these kind of support
files). I can't be far off the right method, because I have managed
(somehow) to install star office this way - but this has me a bit stumped. I
have no clue where to look to find out how to de-compress the file to even
attempt what you outlined - but want to try it.

I am using Mandrake 6.0 Venus - and hopefully 6.1 Helios in next few days
when I can lay hands on it.

Can you suggest an approach please?

Regards,
Ian

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- Original Message -
From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work


 Try the command "sndconfig" without the quotes from a console window.
 Then follow the on screen instructions. One thing I have noticed on my
 system is that the sound card output volume is very low, and so you must
 listen carefully when the util plays the test sounds. Even if you only
 think you hear something from your speakers, answer yes to the test
 question "Did you hear the Sound?" or something like that. Also, if the
 speakers are amplified, turn up the volume before running sndconfig.
 This may help. You can read up on the util with "man sndconfig". To get
 out of the man util press "q". I hope this helps.

 Ernie

 Thomas  Peter wrote:
 
  I am a total newbie. I've  had a computer for 1 1/2 years.  I never
  worked with Dos. I got sick of Win 98 always crashing.  I have
  everything running  except my sound card.
  I am running Mandrake 6.0 and my sound card is a Sound Blaster Live. I
  went to their download site and downloaded the driver.  It has two ways
  to execute it, automatic and manuel.  When I try to use its self
  install. I get the error "can only run executibles on local disks only".
  I thought that was what my hard drive was.  I even tried to install it
  the manul way but had no luck at that either.
  Creative is not offering any help for linux at this time. Do you have
  any suggestions.
 
  Thomas