[newbie] HTML Wysiwyg
I have been googling for a good Wysiwyg for linux (MDK) that would allow for easy content update. I haven't found anything GPL that looks decent. The content is already written, just the prices, and various info needs updating from time to time and I don't know HTML. Frontpage once worked well, but I don't need anything really fancy. Just easy to use in the KDE GUI. I'd prefer GPL if possible. Thx Elliot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HTML Wysiwyg
On Friday 22 October 2004 23:53, Elliot Somers wrote: I have been googling for a good Wysiwyg for linux (MDK) that would allow for easy content update. I haven't found anything GPL that looks decent. The content is already written, just the prices, and various info needs updating from time to time and I don't know HTML. Frontpage once worked well, but I don't need anything really fancy. Just easy to use in the KDE GUI. I'd prefer GPL if possible. Thx Elliot Well, what about mozilla-composer or: vnu which is derived from the same composer BTW?:) Even staroffice/openoffice don't do that bad a job but personally I prefer mozilla for trhe quickies...Easy and fast to understand. On a higher level; Quanta is very good IMHO but not wysiwyg like frontpage. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HTML Wysiwyg
Elliot Somers wrote: I have been googling for a good Wysiwyg for linux (MDK) that would allow for easy content update. I haven't found anything GPL that looks decent. The content is already written, just the prices, and various info needs updating from time to time and I don't know HTML. Frontpage once worked well, but I don't need anything really fancy. Just easy to use in the KDE GUI. I'd prefer GPL if possible. Thx Elliot Do a google search for a Linspire app called NVU. Failing that, have your tried Quanta and scream? All are GPL rgds Franki http://htmlfixit.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] HTML
Hi, I know this question isn't related to Mandrake, but I was hoping some one might be able to point me in the direction of a good HTML editor? When I was using M$ I used Dream weaver so would favor something similar if possible? Clyde Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HTML
Hi, Hi When I was using M$ I used Dream weaver so would favor something similar if possible? Please check http://www.linux.org/apps/all/Development_tools/HTML_Editors.html for html editors. BTW, Quanta is my choice Dreamweaver and Flash for Linux ( CrossOver Office 2.1 ) Visit http://www.codeweavers.com/ for more info Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] html tags help
Dears, What can I say, I got a short memory. I forgot my html tags attributes. Is there am html help/documentation with LM10? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] html tags help
On Friday 16 July 2004 04:07 pm, EE wrote: Dears, What can I say, I got a short memory. I forgot my html tags attributes. Is there am html help/documentation with LM10? http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/ -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] html tags help
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 23:07:20 +0300 EE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dears, What can I say, I got a short memory. I forgot my html tags attributes. Is there am html help/documentation with LM10? http://html-tags.info/ will help Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
On September 13, 2003 04:02 am, HaywireMac wrote: ag! Don't you peeps read other's posts?! Heh, yer the 42nd person to point that out, now corrected. However, thank you very much for your concern and for your reply! BIG GRIN Hey! Of course I do :) Just that the thousands of emails coming onto the list to help you hadn't popped into my machine until after I'd replied :-) BTW, do you need any slightly burnt lodgepole pine or old railway tressles? ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 09:46:41AM -0400, HaywireMac wrote: I wanted to see if I could put one of them purty W3C validation tags on my site, but when I go to their site, it says that is an invalid tag enclosure. WTF am I supposed to use?! Is that the only problem? Have you declared the doctype and charset properly? Are you using or in your page, rather than a proper code like lt; and gt; Those are the only things that come to mind. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:46:41 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey y'all, kinda OT, but WTF, it's a simple (I hope) question. I wanted to see if I could put one of them purty W3C validation tags on my site, but when I go to their site, it says that is an invalid tag enclosure. WTF am I supposed to use?! No, it's probably something in there somewhere, enclosed in the tags. There is a pointer thingy showing where the error normally is, however this totally depends on your used fonts and so on, else it's rendered incorrectly and it appears that the bog is something else. are standard in html / php / xml, so that cannot be the reason. Maybe posting the chunk of code around the error region to this list would help you more? I followed the conventions according to the W3C tutorials and such, but they don't seem to like my version of maybe? Is the a new version of , LOL! LOL ;-) As I said, are standard... no ways of making a page without it ;-) Greetings Ralph -- http://axljab.homelinux.org/ ...the software said Win95 or better, so I installed Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 17:19:12 +0200 Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: No, it's probably something in there somewhere, enclosed in the tags. There is a pointer thingy showing where the error normally is, however this totally depends on your used fonts and so on, else it's rendered incorrectly and it appears that the bog is something else. are standard in html / php / xml, so that cannot be the reason. Maybe posting the chunk of code around the error region to this list would help you more? This is the exact output from the attempted validation: This page is not Valid -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.0S//EN! Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with an SGML parser. 1. Line 2, column 0: character invalid HTML ^ 2. Line 2, column 0: cannot continue because of previous errors HTML ^ Below is the source input I used for this validation: 1: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.0S//EN 2: HTML 3: HEAD 4: TITLEOrderInChaos/TITLE Thanks guys! One thing, the web pages do not actually have the .htm or .html extension, they are .php, as I use one little bit of .php to display my uptime. Could that be the prob? -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Just remember, wherever you go, there you are. -- Buckaroo Bonzai Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
you don't have a closing on the DOCTYPE statement --- Original Message --- From: HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] HTML Validation On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 17:19:12 +0200 Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: No, it's probably something in there somewhere, enclosed in the tags. There is a pointer thingy showing where the error normally is, however this totally depends on your used fonts and so on, else it's rendered incorrectly and it appears that the bog is something else. are standard in html / php / xml, so that cannot be the reason. Maybe posting the chunk of code around the error region to this list would help you more? This is the exact output from the attempted validation: This page is not Valid -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.0S//EN! Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with an SGML parser. 1. Line 2, column 0: character invalid HTML ^ 2. Line 2, column 0: cannot continue because of previous errors HTML ^ Below is the source input I used for this validation: 1: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.0S//EN 2: HTML 3: HEAD 4: TITLEOrderInChaos/TITLE Thanks guys! One thing, the web pages do not actually have the .htm or .html extension, they are .php, as I use one little bit of .php to display my uptime. Could that be the prob? -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Just remember, wherever you go, there you are. -- Buckaroo Bonzai Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:35:58 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: you don't have a closing on the DOCTYPE statement D'oh! Well, that got me past the first error, now I've only got 149 more to fix, aaarggg! Thanks! -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ When the speaker and he to whom he is speaks do not understand, that is metaphysics. -- Voltaire Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:45:05 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: now I've only got 149 more to fix, down to only 44, thanks to html-tidy, rpm's avail thru urpmi tidy. Cool! -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ My theology, briefly, is that the universe was dictated but not signed. -- Christopher Morley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
On September 11, 2003 08:31 am, HaywireMac wrote: #snip! Below is the source input I used for this validation: 1: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.0S//EN 2: HTML 3: HEAD 4: TITLEOrderInChaos/TITLE Thanks guys! One thing, the web pages do not actually have the .htm or .html extension, they are .php, as I use one little bit of .php to display my uptime. Could that be the prob? Check line 1...you forgot to close the on the DOCTYPE declaration. And shouldn't you be declaring HTML 4.x As for the PHP extention, I don't think that's a problem, Joe. ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:31:09 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Below is the source input I used for this validation: 1: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.0S//EN 2: HTML 3: HEAD 4: TITLEOrderInChaos/TITLE !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN html head titleOrderInChaos/title ;-) .. my pleasure ... PS: v3 is very old.. use at least 4.0 Thanks guys! One thing, the web pages do not actually have the .htm or .html extension, they are .php, as I use one little bit of .php to display my uptime. Could that be the prob? PHP == HTML in terms of output, the only difference being that PHP is a scripting language too, so you can include many functions in it. However if you have pure html in a PHP file, it works just the same ;-) Greetings Ralph -- http://axljab.homelinux.org/ ...the software said Win95 or better, so I installed Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:02:28 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:45:05 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: now I've only got 149 more to fix, down to only 44, thanks to html-tidy, rpm's avail thru urpmi tidy. Hehe, then you are doing much better than slashdot.org ;-) Want a challenge, correct their site, hehehe. Damn, what did you use to make your webpage, xmms? LOL ... Greetings Ralph -- http://axljab.homelinux.org/ ...the software said Win95 or better, so I installed Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:10:08 +0200 Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Damn, what did you use to make your webpage, xmms? LOL ... Just a text editor and copying and pasting from tutorials! No WYSIWYG for moi! Now to just find the balance between compliance and looking like shite... -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ One meets his destiny often on the road he takes to avoid it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 01:04:06PM -0400, HaywireMac wrote: However, if anyone can see from my page why the text won't spread out across the page toward the table with the gifs/links, lemme know! Arghh, tables! If I were you, I'd go for a table-less layout using css. Google for tableless columns (you might throw in css and layout) and you'll find plenty of examples to choose from. I copied one from Blue Robot for my page (http://clevername.homeip.net). The advantages are cleaner code, easier to work with, better for accessibility, faster rendering, and it's quickly becoming the new standard. The disadvantages are for folks who use lame browsers like IE that have poor support for css (or people who use cool browsers like Dillo and/or text-based browsers like Lynx). It's not really a disadvantage, though, as the css degrades nicely and the people using these browsers can still access your content. HTH, Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
HaywireMac wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:02:28 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: down to only 44, thanks to html-tidy, rpm's avail thru urpmi tidy. Cool! 13 now, just some alt tags...but it looks like shite and I can't figger out why. Anyhow, I highly recomment the tidy package for beginners, and I've joined the HTML writers guild beginners list. I'm a beginner too - where do I find this list? However, if anyone can see from my page why the text won't spread out across the page toward the table with the gifs/links, lemme know! Cheers and thanks! Table widths need adjusting? If the one on the left is too big, it squeezes up the others to fill remaining space. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:25:08 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I'm a beginner too - where do I find this list? http://www.hwg.org/ However, if anyone can see from my page why the text won't spread out across the page toward the table with the gifs/links, lemme know! Cheers and thanks! Table widths need adjusting? If the one on the left is too big, it squeezes up the others to fill remaining space. I'll check that, thanks! -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Ah, but a man's grasp should exceed his reach, Or what's a heaven for ? -- Robert Browning, Andrea del Sarto Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 9, 2003 12:38 pm, HaywireMac wrote: whack I'll check that, thanks! While you're at it can you tell me if you're trapped inside the even horizon of a singularity, or am I? ;-) One of us is because your posts are showing Tuesday instead of today. Peace; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-7mdk 12:47:40 up 1 day, 12:43, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.22, 0.31 History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives. -- Abba Eban -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/YMPRG11CaRuZZSIRAn3iAKCOShU7RxpB00de1pQmqjuxptmJuwCfeaZA FeDtNEW35O0mEbMNaHVWCc0= =1S9k -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:49:53 -0600 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: One of us is because your posts are showing Tuesday instead of today. ah, yes, the beta of the Linux MOHAA client expired (I own the freakin' game, how could it expire? it's just the executable...WTF?!) so, well, I just changed the clock... ;-) -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ And ever has it been known that love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation. -- Kahlil Gibran Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML Validation
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 11:19, Ralph Slooten wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:46:41 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey y'all, kinda OT, but WTF, it's a simple (I hope) question. I wanted to see if I could put one of them purty W3C validation tags on my site, but when I go to their site, it says that is an invalid tag enclosure. WTF am I supposed to use?! are you sure there is no space after the somewhere? like a href= and not a href= No, it's probably something in there somewhere, enclosed in the tags. There is a pointer thingy showing where the error normally is, however this totally depends on your used fonts and so on, else it's rendered incorrectly and it appears that the bog is something else. are standard in html / php / xml, so that cannot be the reason. Maybe posting the chunk of code around the error region to this list would help you more? I followed the conventions according to the W3C tutorials and such, but they don't seem to like my version of maybe? Is the a new version of , LOL! LOL ;-) As I said, are standard... no ways of making a page without it ;-) Greetings Ralph -- http://axljab.homelinux.org/ ...the software said Win95 or better, so I installed Linux -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] HTML on Mailing list
Title: RE: [newbie] HTML on Mailing list -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aron Smith Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] HTML on Mailing list On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 21:43, Guy Rouillier wrote: Aron Smith wrote: I Found this site that not only gives the reasons not to use HTML but also how to turn it off even if you use (ugh)AOL And that site would be? http://.expita.com/nomime.htm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have tried this with Outlook 2002 and my mail still shows up as html as this one is an example. I can find no way to stop it so I conclude I must quit using the office email and only send from my linux computer at home. Dennis M.
[newbie] HTML on Mailing list
I Found this site that not only gives the reasons not to use HTML but also how to turn it off even if you use (ugh)AOL -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] HTML on Mailing list
I Found this site that not only gives the reasons not to use HTML but also how to turn it off even if you use (ugh)AOL http://www.expita.com/nomime.html Sorry about that hit the wrong button -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML on Mailing list
Aron Smith wrote: I Found this site that not only gives the reasons not to use HTML but also how to turn it off even if you use (ugh)AOL And that site would be? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML on Mailing list
On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 21:43, Guy Rouillier wrote: Aron Smith wrote: I Found this site that not only gives the reasons not to use HTML but also how to turn it off even if you use (ugh)AOL And that site would be? http://.expita.com/nomime.htm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML
Hello Cody, Monday, June 9, 2003, 2:34:52 PM, you wrote: some HTML Yep - it's HTML. NO text in the message at all! Very bad for some email clients (TheBat doesn't care though). -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] HTML
Hello Cody, Monday, June 9, 2003, 2:54:29 PM, you wrote: CH It seems if i change the encoding to UU and not Mime, it doesn't change it. True - this only says how it is sent. It's HTML either way. CH I opened up my text mail client and i didn't see any HTML. Look at the raw message with a text-ONLY editor - it's there. -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
FemmeFatale wrote: At 09:04 PM 2/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: snip You must have some artistic/creative/designer-type friends, because all of the HTML mail eye candy I get is spam. And from all the spam, most is not eye candy but really poorly designed (I know from seeing the wife's spam in Mozilla). But I do get HTML mail from some friends, and it is just plain--they don't spend hours designing a mail template, or spend any time doing anything remotely interesting with the mail. In fact, most don't have any idea they're sending HTML mail because they use Outhouse or something and they just go with the default settings. For that reason, I think HTML is a waste. I mean, if you're going to waste the bandwidth, at least spend some time designing a nice stylesheet or something! And, no tables--if you can't design columns using a stylesheet, you shouldn't be allowed to send HTML mail! But it is indeed wonderful for spam. Todd Shrugs my sister sends me these JPG's all the time sometimes some poetry written with HTML. Spam..well... nothing I can say there. FWIW you're right ... 90% of all my HTML mail is spam. But for some ppl as I said, its nice to use it in their mail. More power to them. I've used it on a couple of occasions in the last few years. Sometimes I need to use non-ascii characters, and can't rely on the receiver having the ability to decode any other way. Once I had to circulate a document that wanted very clear subtitles and colour - I _could_ have done it in ASCII, but it wouldn't have been as clear. Normally, though, I'd just use this wanderful thing they have with e-mail called an attachment. HTML mail is so popular with spammers because they knowmostpeople won't bother to open attachments (though the success of e-mail worms implies that there are still some who will!). Me, I'm wating for e-mail in LaTeX. Sir Robin -- Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and picke quarrells. - G. Pettie Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Sunday 09 February 2003 01:18 am, robin wrote: snip I've used it on a couple of occasions in the last few years. Sometimes I need to use non-ascii characters, and can't rely on the receiver having the ability to decode any other way. Once I had to circulate a document that wanted very clear subtitles and colour - I _could_ have done it in ASCII, but it wouldn't have been as clear. Normally, though, I'd just use this wanderful thing they have with e-mail called an attachment. HTML mail is so popular with spammers because they knowmostpeople won't bother to open attachments (though the success of e-mail worms implies that there are still some who will!). Me, I'm wating for e-mail in LaTeX. Sir Robin I've sent html e-mail occasionally myself. Personal greetings for special occasions such as birthdays or anniversaries, or for somber occasions where condolences would be more fitting. Personalized one off cards I mean. Everything has it's place and trying to deny people the free use of any form of self expression or technology because of abuse by a few rotten apples seems mildly retarded (technologically speaking) in my opinion. I prefer plain text personally, but there are times Besides; I vaguely recall reading that in some few of the most recent mass mailer worms infection didn't actually require the recipient to open any attachments. All that was required was an un-patched Lookout and default settings. As well as no anti-virus scanner for that broken piece of Microsoft effluvium. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org Absolute: Independent, irresponsible. An absolute monarchy is one in which the sovereign does as he pleases so long as he pleases the assassins. Not many absolute monarchies are left, most of them having been replaced by limited monarchies, where the sovereign's power for evil (and for good) is greatly curtailed, and by republics, which are governed by chance. -- Ambrose Bierce Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:58:30 +0200, Gil Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? There are several. If you're familiar with Outlook Express you'll feel right at home with Evolution. It does everything Outlook does except propagate viruses. -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras http://srcopan.vze.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 09:14:36AM +0200, Gil Katz wrote: Ok i didn??? express myself ouite clear enough i got several accounts in hotmail and the easiest way to handel them is by outlook express so that what i need. Gil I'm not sure I understand what you want to do. Do you want to access your various Hotmail accounts using a mail client like Outlook or any other client that can read multiple accounts? I set my wife up with hotwayd, which lets your computer act like a pop3 server to interface with Hotmail. She can access her Hotmail account without going to that dreadful website. You can get hotwayd here: http://people.freenet.de/courierdave/ Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] HTML e-mail client
Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
In reply to Gil's mail, d.d. Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:58:30 +0200: Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Evolution should be what you look for. Paul -- Some Windows were made to be broken. http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:04, Paul wrote: In reply to Gil's mail, d.d. Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:58:30 +0200: Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Evolution should be what you look for. Paul Evolution got POP or IMAP what i need is a e-mail client to connect to hotmail Gil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gil Katz Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 5:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:04, Paul wrote: In reply to Gil's mail, d.d. Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:58:30 +0200: Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Evolution should be what you look for. Paul Evolution got POP or IMAP what i need is a e-mail client to connect to hotmail Gil What you need is another mail account :-) Adolfo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
In reply to Adolfo's mail, d.d. Sat, 8 Feb 2003 05:30:30 -0400: Evolution got POP or IMAP what i need is a e-mail client to connect to hotmail Gil What you need is another mail account :-) *grin* Hotmail is a Micro$osft proprietary 'protocol' as far as I know. I have not heard about any linux-based e-mail program that has access to such protocol. Best shot from Linux, to my knowledge, would be the cross-over plugin, so you can run LookOut with that. Good luck. Paul -- Some Windows were made to be broken. http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 February 2003 04:15 am, Gil Katz wrote: On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:04, Paul wrote: In reply to Gil's mail, d.d. Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:58:30 +0200: Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Evolution should be what you look for. Paul Evolution got POP or IMAP what i need is a e-mail client to connect to hotmail Gil Maybe this is usefull for you then: http://dot.kde.org/1035822985/1035828921/1035906330/ KMail can already handle hotmail http mail via gotmail (http://freshmeat.net/projects/gotmail/). Simply fetch your mail from your hotmail account with gotmail, save it in a local mbox-style mailbox (Warning: Don't save it in ~/Mail !) and then fetch the messages from this mailbox with KMail. You can even configure gotmail as precommand for a local account in KMail so that in order to fetch new mail from your hotmail account all you have to do is press the Check Mail button in KMail. Of course you can also enable interval checking for your hotmail account. That's the beauty of Unix. Don't reinvent the wheel a thousand times but use the tools that already exist. Regard, Ingo - From http://dot.kde.org/1035822985/1035828921/1035906330/ Gotmail is a utility to non-interactively download email from a Hotmail account. It can download messages from all folders, messages from certain folders, or new messages only. There are options to delete downloaded messages or mark them as read. Gotmail can forward messages to other email addresses or save them as local mbox-style mailboxes. I don't see why this wouldn't work in any other mail client that can read mailboxes althout I really like KMail and the precommand that really helps there may not be available in other clients. If you want KMail to look like outlook, hold your breath and wait for kde 3.2, the answer is Kontact: http://www.kontact.org http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/kontact/kontact1.png http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/kontact/kontact2.png http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/kontact/kontact3.png http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/kontact/kontact4.png for more information of what's going on in 3.2 related to PIM: http://dot.kde.org/1043346607/ Hope it helped. Anyway, the get a new account advice is still a good advice. - -- Pupeno: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pupeno.com/~pupeno - --- Help the hungry children of Argentina, please go to (and make it your homepage): http://www.porloschicos.com/servlet/PorLosChicos?comando=donar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+RTVLLr8z5XzmSDQRAhEYAJ9c+U/GjDmr5uSfzNbjtNZo2I9xbwCeLfqh MXNly2yN26ckfkGpP2lgDgs= =AjJE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
Pupeno wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 February 2003 04:15 am, Gil Katz wrote: On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:04, Paul wrote: In reply to Gil's mail, d.d. Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:58:30 +0200: Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Evolution should be what you look for. Paul Evolution got POP or IMAP what i need is a e-mail client to connect to hotmail Gil Maybe this is usefull for you then: http://dot.kde.org/1035822985/1035828921/1035906330/ KMail can already handle hotmail http mail via gotmail (http://freshmeat.net/projects/gotmail/). Simply fetch your mail from your hotmail account with gotmail, save it in a local mbox-style mailbox (Warning: Don't save it in ~/Mail !) and then fetch the messages from this mailbox with KMail. You can even configure gotmail as precommand for a local account in KMail so that in order to fetch new mail from your hotmail account all you have to do is press the Check Mail button in KMail. Of course you can also enable interval checking for your hotmail account. That's the beauty of Unix. Don't reinvent the wheel a thousand times but use the tools that already exist. Regard, Ingo - From http://dot.kde.org/1035822985/1035828921/1035906330/ Gotmail is a utility to non-interactively download email from a Hotmail account. It can download messages from all folders, messages from certain folders, or new messages only. There are options to delete downloaded messages or mark them as read. Gotmail can forward messages to other email addresses or save them as local mbox-style mailboxes. I don't see why this wouldn't work in any other mail client that can read mailboxes althout I really like KMail and the precommand that really helps there may not be available in other clients. If you want KMail to look like outlook, hold your breath and wait for kde 3.2, the answer is Kontact: http://www.kontact.org http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/kontact/kontact1.png http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/kontact/kontact2.png http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/kontact/kontact3.png http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/kontact/kontact4.png for more information of what's going on in 3.2 related to PIM: http://dot.kde.org/1043346607/ If you use Mozilla, the Hermes addon apparently allows reading of hotmail and some other web-based account as though they were POP3 accounts. See http://hermes.mozdev.org/index.html Hope it helped. Anyway, the get a new account advice is still a good advice. Yep, with all those free account services out there, using hotmail is unnecessary. Some now even give free POP3 accounts, e.g. softhome.net , which my wife uses. Netscape will give you a free account on registration, which can be read in Netscape Messenger (but not in Mozilla Messenger, AFAIK). Sir Robin -- Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and picke quarrells. - G. Pettie Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 12:56, robin wrote: If you use Mozilla, the Hermes addon apparently allows reading of hotmail and some other web-based account as though they were POP3 accounts. See http://hermes.mozdev.org/index.html Not quite.. all hermes does is add a sidebar which gives you a dropdown list of webmail sites. You select hotmail, and it gives you two input boxes, username and password. You hit the login button, and it redirects the main browser page to hotmail. So all it really is is a shortcut. Plus Hermes doesn't work in the latest versions of Mozilla.. I should know.. hermes is my project.. and I can't seem to find time to fix the latest bugs. Plus I get reports that the url old versions of hermes use for hotmail might be out of date. Still.. it's a pretty colour and got a nice logo :) Sir Robin -- Azrael (\''/).___..--'''-._ `0_ O ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' ((i).-'' ((i).' (((.-' Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with a cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat. ICQ#52944566 Registered Linux User: 269002 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Hi Gil, Sure there is. Evolution is one, kmail is another. The first one is fancier (more like complete Outlook version, but buggy, at least in the 1.0.8 version) and there is kmail which is a pure mail client, working very nicely. The only thing which GNU/linux software never managed to achieve is writing an email client capable to do what Outlook does best: expose your system to 6+ viruses ;-) Enjoy! Andrei Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Does Kmail handle HTML?? Russ - Original Message - Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Hi Gil, Sure there is. Evolution is one, kmail is another. The first one is fancier (more like complete Outlook version, but buggy, at least in the 1.0.8 version) and there is kmail which is a pure mail client, working very nicely. The only thing which GNU/linux software never managed to achieve is writing an email client capable to do what Outlook does best: expose your system to 6+ viruses ;-) Enjoy! Andrei Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 12:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Hi Gil, Sure there is. Evolution is one, kmail is another. The first one is fancier (more like complete Outlook version, but buggy, at least in the 1.0.8 version) and there is kmail which is a pure mail client, working very nicely. The only thing which GNU/linux software never managed to achieve is writing an email client capable to do what Outlook does best: expose your system to 6+ viruses ;-) Enjoy! Andrei What this guy is looking for is a *HTTP* mail client, specially suited for Hotmail, like Outlook Express or Outlook. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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When sending emails to lists and for general use, yes text only is acceptable and actually how it should be. This is NOT so for many family and friends that are spread the world over. Being able to dress up your letters and send pictures inline (so you can explain the photo) is a big thing and cannot be ignored. Between family and friends this is acceptable. You may have no use for HTML but others do have a valid desire to. That is why I want to write mail in HTML form. Thanks Russ BTW Mozilla's mail client sucks. Evolution is the way to go. - Original Message - Kmail will display html mails, but it will not write html mails. But then why would anyone want to write their mails in html? You would only piss people off. (Reasons being a/ Some clients cannot handle html and your mails would be unreadable. b/ A mail in html can look fine on one machine, and awful on another c/ Html mails are lots bigger and take longer to download d/ There is nothing you cannot express in plain text ) If you *really* want to write mails in HTML then Mozilla mail can do it. (But please send only plain text to this list) derek On Saturday 08 Feb 2003 4:40 pm, Russ wrote: Does Kmail handle HTML?? Russ - Original Message - Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Hi Gil, Sure there is. Evolution is one, kmail is another. The first one is fancier (more like complete Outlook version, but buggy, at least in the 1.0.8 version) and there is kmail which is a pure mail client, working very nicely. The only thing which GNU/linux software never managed to achieve is writing an email client capable to do what Outlook does best: expose your system to 6+ viruses ;-) Enjoy! Andrei Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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BTW Mozilla's mail client sucks. Evolution is the way to go. I have not used Mozilla, but I think that Evolution is bloated, the use I would think for it would be in an office where you might need everything but the kitchen sink /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 11:15:18AM +0200, Gil Katz wrote: Evolution got POP or IMAP what i need is a e-mail client to connect to hotmail Gil As far as I know. hotmail uses a special protocol which outlook express and possibly the latest version of outlook can connect to... If you are using Linux, I think there might be something to pull it done to your system and possibly read it from there, if there is not, something could be written by using something like wget, probably. Ken -- Now I am depressed ... www.kenwstevens.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:23:18AM -0800, Russ wrote: When sending emails to lists and for general use, yes text only is acceptable and actually how it should be. This is NOT so for many family and friends that are spread the world over. Being able to dress up your letters and send pictures inline (so you can explain the photo) is a big thing and cannot be ignored. Between family and friends this is acceptable. You may have no use for HTML but others do have a valid desire to. That is why I want to write mail in HTML form. Yes, HTML mail can be ignored. It does not belong in emails. One reason not already listed is that a malicious person can really cause problems by coding html with javascript and.or activex objects (the latter only on MS machines) which may spread virii or worms. Ken -- Just to have it is enough. www.kenwstevens.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Again, I must respectfully disagree with you. Unless they can come up with another way to dress up plain ol text between friends and family, it will stay. Most people want eye candy and without it they will move on. Linux does not need the various GUI's to operate, but in order to get more people on board it is necessary to make it more flashy and the same goes with email. It does not need flashy to work but that is what many many many many people want. You can rant and rave about it all you want but that is life. It is not about what makes it work but about what people want. Yes there are security risks involved but anytime you make things easier, you risk security. Russ - Original Message - On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:23:18AM -0800, Russ wrote: When sending emails to lists and for general use, yes text only is acceptable and actually how it should be. This is NOT so for many family and friends that are spread the world over. Being able to dress up your letters and send pictures inline (so you can explain the photo) is a big thing and cannot be ignored. Between family and friends this is acceptable. You may have no use for HTML but others do have a valid desire to. That is why I want to write mail in HTML form. Yes, HTML mail can be ignored. It does not belong in emails. One reason not already listed is that a malicious person can really cause problems by coding html with javascript and.or activex objects (the latter only on MS machines) which may spread virii or worms. Ken Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
Sure there is. Evolution is one, kmail is another. The first one is fancier (more like complete Outlook version, but buggy, at least in the 1.0.8 version) and there is kmail which is a pure mail client, working very nicely. The only thing which GNU/linux software never managed to achieve is writing an email client capable to do what Outlook does best: expose your system to 6+ viruses ;-) Personally I love Sylpheed, although it doesn't handle HTML very well, but HTML is generally a nuicanse (sp!) anyway, but then again there are tonnes of emailclients in Windows that doesn't expose you to viruses either. /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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You are right about the bloat but it does send and receive in HTML. I am still looking for the slimmed down version like OutLook Ex is to OutLook. Russ - Original Message - BTW Mozilla's mail client sucks. Evolution is the way to go. I have not used Mozilla, but I think that Evolution is bloated, the use I would think for it would be in an office where you might need everything but the kitchen sink /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:56 pm, Russ wrote: Again, I must respectfully disagree with you. Unless they can come up with another way to dress up plain ol text between friends and family, it will stay. Most people want eye candy and without it they will move on. Linux does not need the various GUI's to operate, but in order to get more people on board it is necessary to make it more flashy and the same goes with email. It does not need flashy to work but that is what many many many many people want. You can rant and rave about it all you want but that is life. It is not about what makes it work but about what people want. Yes there are security risks involved but anytime you make things easier, you risk security. There are many who believe that people that want to use those kinds of features should not be using a computer, and at a minimum should not be using Linux. It is a snobbish sort of approach. Although there are some good points in the arguments, people are willing to take the risk for the eye-candy, so as long as they are educated to the risk and are willing to accept it, then I say so be it. As for kmail, you can create html mails by specifying a different editor for composing mail. How I deal with the security risks of html mail is with filters that whitelist people I trust. If I receive an html e-mail from somebody not on my trusted list, it gets sent to a different folder that displays everything as plain text, so it can be examined without rendering the html. If the sender is on the list, the message is forwarded to my inbox. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:07, Russ wrote: You are right about the bloat but it does send and receive in HTML. I am still looking for the slimmed down version like OutLook Ex is to OutLook. Russ - Original Message - BTW Mozilla's mail client sucks. Evolution is the way to go. I have not used Mozilla, but I think that Evolution is bloated, the use I would think for it would be in an office where you might need everything but the kitchen sink /Anders We should remember that Evolution was thought, created and designed to be a Linux client for Exchange servers and turned out to be a nice MUA/PIM. It may be bloated but I use almost any feature in it: mail, calendar, todo (tasks), contacts and particularly helpful to me, an assistant reminding me through my cell phone/pager of every meeting or appointment that I may have. It has even saved me from some trouble reminding me my wedding anniversary :-) -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
You are right about the bloat but it does send and receive in HTML. I am still looking for the slimmed down version like OutLook Ex is to OutLook. I have not used it myself but IIRC there is a client called Balsa that is supposed to be good. Perhaps somebody else has used it and can give us a review of it /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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It may be bloated but I use almost any feature in it: mail, calendar, todo (tasks), contacts and particularly helpful to me, an assistant reminding me through my cell phone/pager of every meeting or appointment that I may have. Personally I prefer the traditional UNIX approach, one program one task and do it well, but to each his own. This is also btw my strongest objection towards Emacs. It has even saved me from some trouble reminding me my wedding anniversary :-) *grins* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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At 01:27 PM 2/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: snipper How I deal with the security risks of html mail is with filters that whitelist people I trust. If I receive an html e-mail from somebody not on my trusted list, it gets sent to a different folder that displays everything as plain text, so it can be examined without rendering the html. If the sender is on the list, the message is forwarded to my inbox. -- Greg Hm... could you share how you do that? onlist or off pls. Ty - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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At 07:24 PM 2/8/2003 +0100, you wrote: You are right about the bloat but it does send and receive in HTML. I am still looking for the slimmed down version like OutLook Ex is to OutLook. I have not used it myself but IIRC there is a client called Balsa that is supposed to be good. Perhaps somebody else has used it and can give us a review of it /Anders I can post a review I had of it from a very long time ago (2001 April/May issue) in an issue of Maximum Linux (a now defunct magazine). If anyone is interested that is, contact me offlist or post it to the list. - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
I can post a review I had of it from a very long time ago (2001 April/May issue) in an issue of Maximum Linux (a now defunct magazine). If anyone is interested that is, contact me offlist or post it to the list. Please share with us /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Saturday 08 February 2003 07:42 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: At 01:27 PM 2/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: snipper How I deal with the security risks of html mail is with filters that whitelist people I trust. If I receive an html e-mail from somebody not on my trusted list, it gets sent to a different folder that displays everything as plain text, so it can be examined without rendering the html. If the sender is on the list, the message is forwarded to my inbox. -- Greg Hm... could you share how you do that? onlist or off pls. Ty KMail has the ability to create quite advanced filters. You configure them from Settings == Configure Filters. The rule I use is a match all rule. The first criteria is if the body of the message contains the string html, and the next rules are basically a list of the from addresses that contain the addresses I want to receive html mail from. These are addresses that I trust. I basically set the rule to say that if the message body contains html, and does not contain [EMAIL PROTECTED], and does not contain [EMAIL PROTECTED], move to folder html-mail. If the message meets all the rules, it is html and it does not contain any of the addresses I specify it gets moved to the html folder, if not it goes on to the next filter or to the inbox if you don't have any more.. Of course, I have created a folder called html-mail and set it's preferences to display all messages as text. Now I can review the message without fear of someone that has created a malformed html string crashing my box. If it looks like I can trust it, I'll manually move it back to my inbox so I can view the rendered document as it is intended to be displayed. If it looks like I cannot trust it, I delete it. I have another filter that has rules that deletes any message that contains the words p*nis enlargement, viagra, dvd burning, and a few other well known phrases used by spammers -- basically a simple spam filter that cuts a lot of crap out of my inbox. Another thing I do is create a rule where every message that has the string [newbie] in the subject line is moved to a folder just for this list. Also one for Cooker and Expert, as well as the myriad of other lists I subscribe to. Keeps the inbox nice and tight. I hope this is clear as I wrote this very quickly. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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At 01:59 AM 2/9/2003 +0100, you wrote: I can post a review I had of it from a very long time ago (2001 April/May issue) in an issue of Maximum Linux (a now defunct magazine). If anyone is interested that is, contact me offlist or post it to the list. Please share with us /Anders Balsa: Gnome Intergration: Balsa is an email client specifically tailored to the Gnome Desktop environment. It was started virtually as soon as Gnome was released continued to develop into what it is today. Balsa had a rather long developmental lull period (almost one year) but has recently been more actively developed. At press time, Balsa 1.0 (April/May of 2001) was the latest release. The old Linux saying There is more than one way to do it or TIMTOWTDI, seems very applicable to Balsa. With the exception of the preferences dialog, Balsa has a nice clean user interface. But it is not always obvious how to accomplish certain things. For example, in order to get a nested folder hierarchy, you must physically create a directory in your mail directory (/home/username/mail by default) and then move the mailboxes you want into that directory. The fact that this tip is clearly documented in the FAQ document suggests to us that Balsa needs to develop better methods for doing many common tasks. One of the big Balsa pluses is the integration between the Gnome Card Balsa's address book. Balsa can read write e-mail addresses to the Gnome card Address file. Additionally, Balsa can use an LDAP address book-giving corp. or educational users easy access to the main e-mail directory system w/out jumping through a lot of hoops. The downside of this is that most pre-packaged versions of Balsa (Like RPM or Debian packages) do not have LDAP support built in, leaving the user or Sys Admin to download the source and compile it with LDAP enabled. One major thing we found sorely missing from Balsa is mail filtering. Development of mail filters is actively ongoing, much like the development of Balsa in general. However the current lack of built-in filter may be a problem for some POP3 users. Don't let this stop you. If you try Balsa and like it, we have the solution to this temp prob: If you have a POP3 acct, use fetchmail to download your mail from the mail server. Then use procmail to perform all your filtering into local mailbox files, which Balsa will then proceed to check. You can find out more info about fetchmail procmail from their respective MAN pages. Conclusion: Balsa is a very nice e-mail client that is currently in active development for the Gnome desktop. However, Balsa can do with some user interface improvements in the areas of account creation, folder hierarchy preferences options. Once these issues are addressed mail filtering has been added, Balsa will become a damn good alternative. Highs: == Integration with Gnome, Easy to use, HTML support, LDAP support IMAP support. Lows: = Must recompile for LDAP support, UI bugs, Mail account creation not obvious, No filters (in progress). Required: Any Linux distro, GTK and Gnome Libs. This article was dated April/May of 2001 - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
At 08:22 PM 2/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: On Saturday 08 February 2003 07:42 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: At 01:27 PM 2/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: snipper How I deal with the security risks of html mail is with filters that whitelist people I trust. If I receive an html e-mail from somebody not on my trusted list, it gets sent to a different folder that displays everything as plain text, so it can be examined without rendering the html. If the sender is on the list, the message is forwarded to my inbox. -- Greg Hm... could you share how you do that? onlist or off pls. Ty KMail has the ability to create quite advanced filters. You configure them from Settings == Configure Filters. SNIP I hope this is clear as I wrote this very quickly. -- Greg Ty luv. Perfectly Clear. :) - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 05:35:43PM -0700, FemmeFatale wrote: I'm going to risk abolishment to M$hits camp here or excommunication from the Linux community by saying this... but what else is new? Russ I have to agree with you luvy. Most ppl love eye candy. I know I do. I use Evolution for now but I love Sylpheed too. For the avg person, HTML mail is wonderfully put together eye candy. People are visually inclined mostly. (Men moreso than women; women are more auditorially oriented). OTOH, there are still tons of ppl out there on very lowed comps with very simple email programs on those computers. For them, HTML email is a PITA just chokes their bandwidth/computers. snip You must have some artistic/creative/designer-type friends, because all of the HTML mail eye candy I get is spam. And from all the spam, most is not eye candy but really poorly designed (I know from seeing the wife's spam in Mozilla). But I do get HTML mail from some friends, and it is just plain--they don't spend hours designing a mail template, or spend any time doing anything remotely interesting with the mail. In fact, most don't have any idea they're sending HTML mail because they use Outhouse or something and they just go with the default settings. For that reason, I think HTML is a waste. I mean, if you're going to waste the bandwidth, at least spend some time designing a nice stylesheet or something! And, no tables--if you can't design columns using a stylesheet, you shouldn't be allowed to send HTML mail! But it is indeed wonderful for spam. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Saturday 08 February 2003 8:04 pm, Todd Slater wrote: *snip* You must have some artistic/creative/designer-type friends, because all of the HTML mail eye candy I get is spam. And from all the spam, most is not eye candy but really poorly designed (I know from seeing the wife's spam in Mozilla). But I do get HTML mail from some friends, and it is just plain--they don't spend hours designing a mail template, or spend any time doing anything remotely interesting with the mail. In fact, most don't have any idea they're sending HTML mail because they use Outhouse or something and they just go with the default settings. For that reason, I think HTML is a waste. I mean, if you're going to waste the bandwidth, at least spend some time designing a nice stylesheet or something! And, no tables--if you can't design columns using a stylesheet, you shouldn't be allowed to send HTML mail! You forgot something. Some people have friends that like to change their font styles, sizes, and colors (colours for you brits out there). And txt mode email doesnt allow that at all. -- Chuck Burns Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
At 09:04 PM 2/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: snip You must have some artistic/creative/designer-type friends, because all of the HTML mail eye candy I get is spam. And from all the spam, most is not eye candy but really poorly designed (I know from seeing the wife's spam in Mozilla). But I do get HTML mail from some friends, and it is just plain--they don't spend hours designing a mail template, or spend any time doing anything remotely interesting with the mail. In fact, most don't have any idea they're sending HTML mail because they use Outhouse or something and they just go with the default settings. For that reason, I think HTML is a waste. I mean, if you're going to waste the bandwidth, at least spend some time designing a nice stylesheet or something! And, no tables--if you can't design columns using a stylesheet, you shouldn't be allowed to send HTML mail! But it is indeed wonderful for spam. Todd Shrugs my sister sends me these JPG's all the time sometimes some poetry written with HTML. Spam..well... nothing I can say there. FWIW you're right ... 90% of all my HTML mail is spam. But for some ppl as I said, its nice to use it in their mail. More power to them. - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Saturday 08 February 2003 09:12 pm, Chuck Burns wrote: You forgot something. Some people have friends that like to change their font styles, sizes, and colors (colours for you brits out there). And txt mode email doesnt allow that at all. Don't forget, they top post too. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:04:20PM -0500, Todd Slater wrote: On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 05:35:43PM -0700, FemmeFatale wrote: I'm going to risk abolishment to M$hits camp here or excommunication from the Linux community by saying this... but what else is new? Russ I have to agree with you luvy. Most ppl love eye candy. I know I do. I use Evolution for now but I love Sylpheed too. For the avg person, HTML mail is wonderfully put together eye candy. People are visually inclined mostly. (Men moreso than women; women are more auditorially oriented). OTOH, there are still tons of ppl out there on very lowed comps with very simple email programs on those computers. For them, HTML email is a PITA just chokes their bandwidth/computers. Only one in the past year have I received email in HTML form that was not spam. -- hendrik. snip You must have some artistic/creative/designer-type friends, because all of the HTML mail eye candy I get is spam. And from all the spam, most is not eye candy but really poorly designed (I know from seeing the wife's spam in Mozilla). But I do get HTML mail from some friends, and it is just plain--they don't spend hours designing a mail template, or spend any time doing anything remotely interesting with the mail. In fact, most don't have any idea they're sending HTML mail because they use Outhouse or something and they just go with the default settings. For that reason, I think HTML is a waste. I mean, if you're going to waste the bandwidth, at least spend some time designing a nice stylesheet or something! And, no tables--if you can't design columns using a stylesheet, you shouldn't be allowed to send HTML mail! But it is indeed wonderful for spam. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
Ok i didnṫ express myself ouite clear enough i got several accounts in hotmail and the easiest way to handel them is by outlook express so that what i need. Gil On Sunday 09 February 2003 06:11, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:04:20PM -0500, Todd Slater wrote: On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 05:35:43PM -0700, FemmeFatale wrote: I'm going to risk abolishment to M$hits camp here or excommunication from the Linux community by saying this... but what else is new? Russ I have to agree with you luvy. Most ppl love eye candy. I know I do. I use Evolution for now but I love Sylpheed too. For the avg person, HTML mail is wonderfully put together eye candy. People are visually inclined mostly. (Men moreso than women; women are more auditorially oriented). OTOH, there are still tons of ppl out there on very lowed comps with very simple email programs on those computers. For them, HTML email is a PITA just chokes their bandwidth/computers. Only one in the past year have I received email in HTML form that was not spam. -- hendrik. snip You must have some artistic/creative/designer-type friends, because all of the HTML mail eye candy I get is spam. And from all the spam, most is not eye candy but really poorly designed (I know from seeing the wife's spam in Mozilla). But I do get HTML mail from some friends, and it is just plain--they don't spend hours designing a mail template, or spend any time doing anything remotely interesting with the mail. In fact, most don't have any idea they're sending HTML mail because they use Outhouse or something and they just go with the default settings. For that reason, I think HTML is a waste. I mean, if you're going to waste the bandwidth, at least spend some time designing a nice stylesheet or something! And, no tables--if you can't design columns using a stylesheet, you shouldn't be allowed to send HTML mail! But it is indeed wonderful for spam. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] HTML help - OT
Need some help here, I have been through my html book and on the web at HTML turorial sites and can not find what I once had, that is a substitute for the a href=mailto: part of an email link. I recall a substitute for the mailto: as being %40: but that does not work. Anyone have a clue? This change helps keep the spam bots from adding your website email address to their list of addresses to spam. Help would be great, thanks -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML help - OT
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 06:29:28PM -0600, Dennis Myers wrote: Need some help here, I have been through my html book and on the web at HTML turorial sites and can not find what I once had, that is a substitute for the a href=mailto: part of an email link. I recall a substitute for the mailto: as being %40: but that does not work. Anyone have a clue? This change helps keep the spam bots from adding your website email address to their list of addresses to spam. Help would be great, thanks -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 It's tough to trick the bots, but you can use javascript. You can do something like: script language=javascript !-- var contact = YourName var email = you var emailHost = yourdomain.com document.write(a href= + mail + to: + email + + emailHost+ + contact + /a + .) //-- /script (that was copied and pasted--formatting may be off) See also: http://www.alistapart.com/stories/spam/ HTH, Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML help - OT
Dennis, I found these links that might help some. Maligning the email address to make it unusable until the user makes the necessary adjustments in their email progeam. Doesn't always work: http://radawana.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~martinpi/palinro2.html How did they get my email address? is a really comprehensive look at how spammers get your email address off the Web. Might provide some insight on different methods. The author mentions a poison CGI script that he uses to keep his email addresses on the site safe, but doesn't list it in the article: http://afterstep.davidv.net/howaddy.htm Last, but not least, a web page that actually gives you some solutions, as well as the reasons. See - mailto.cgi - link at bottom of page: http://radawana.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~martinpi/internet.html#SPAM Hope something here helps... T - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 7:29 PM Subject: [newbie] HTML help - OT Need some help here, I have been through my html book and on the web at HTML turorial sites and can not find what I once had, that is a substitute for the a href=mailto: part of an email link. I recall a substitute for the mailto: as being %40: but that does not work. Anyone have a clue? This change helps keep the spam bots from adding your website email address to their list of addresses to spam. Help would be great, thanks -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] html to pdf
Same here... I tried to download and compile the latest version, but had compile errors in the htmldoc source (there's a call to a non-existent FLTK function). Then I discovered the MDK8.2 had the rpm included ;-) raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have once used a tool called htmldoc. The source code is free, however it uses FLTK (Fast Light Tool Kit) for the gui, and I can't get it to compile on my system properly. If you install it manually you will probably have to use the console version which included about 100 different commands, but can do almost anything under the sun. Please don't ask how you can use it... I can't remember ;-) I used to use the GUI in Mandrake 8.0 but since then I haven't had much need for it. If it's Linux documentation you want, maybe it has already been converted, so take a look then at linuxdoc.org ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] html to pdf
On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 19:12, Raffaele Belardi wrote: I should have been more precise... The method you suggest is definetly correct, but I would like a tool which follows the links recursively: for example, index.html contains link to chapter1.html and chapter2.html. I'd like a tool which generates a single pdf file containing index.html, chapter1.html and capter2.html (in this order :-)). I'm asking too much, am I? raffaele Hello, Yes and no. Adobe Acrobat 5 (and some earlier versions) can create PDFs with links, and if you have it it will turn your HTMLs into a single PDF. Unfortunately I don't know how to do it for GhostScript! (sorry) I have only ever used it to make basic resumes. The Adobe Web service should do it for you - createpdf.adobe.com. Just get a free 5-use trial account - I've found it handy because it handles OCR for your images as well. Regards, _nasturtium Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] html to pdf
On Mon, 2002-09-16 at 10:12, Raffaele Belardi wrote: I should have been more precise... The method you suggest is definetly correct, but I would like a tool which follows the links recursively: for example, index.html contains link to chapter1.html and chapter2.html. I'd like a tool which generates a single pdf file containing index.html, chapter1.html and capter2.html (in this order :-)). I'm asking too much, am I? Yes, unfortunately. Adobe Web Capture (the official Adobe tool) is needed to traverse Web sites and produce single PDFs. The irony is that there _is_ a Linux tool which will do this traversal, and with far more control over what it picks up, than Web Capture ... but it produces the wrong file format. It's Plucker: http://www.plkr.org/ All joking apart, for grabbing Web pages and reading them offline without having to print out reams of text, Plucker plus a decent handheld is the way to go. Sitescooper does the same thing and could convert to PDF but is famously difficult to set up (haven't tried it): http://www.sitescooper.org/ Alastair signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[newbie] html mail
Is this still in html format or did I change it correctly - Original Message - From: D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Metamorphysical [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Video card problem Ooo... That's not good. Are you using XFree 4.20? Beause it doesn't sound like it... And those drivers need XF4.2 I think. Anyhow, you could log in at the terminal, and run XFDrake, then choose one of the GeForce cards, then save the config. Then try to edit the file, and it should have info in it now. If you are using XF4.2, that is. Good luck. On Wednesday 24 July 2002 07:40 am, you wrote: I tried your tutorial on your website. One problem the file XFConfig-4 is empty. There is no text at all in the file. Should I put in those commands the way they are in the tutorial? - Original Message - From: D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Metamorphysical [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:51 AM Subject: Video card problem Hey there. I don't know if you got your problem fixed or not, but I have a fairly simple tutorial you could try to follow. It works every time for me. http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ (Go to Tutorials, then OpenGL with NVidia) Good luck. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] html mail
Metamorphysical wrote: Is this still in html format or did I change it correctly It's plain text. -- There are only 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't - thinkgeek.com Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Üniversitesi Ankara 06533 http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] html mail
On Wednesday 24 July 2002 05:19 pm, you wrote: Is this still in html format or did I change it correctly - Original Message - From: D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Metamorphysical [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Video card problem Ooo... That's not good. Are you using XFree 4.20? Beause it doesn't sound like it... And those drivers need XF4.2 I think. Anyhow, you could log in at the terminal, and run XFDrake, then choose one of the GeForce cards, then save the config. Then try to edit the file, and it should have info in it now. If you are using XF4.2, that is. Good luck. On Wednesday 24 July 2002 07:40 am, you wrote: I tried your tutorial on your website. One problem the file XFConfig-4 is empty. There is no text at all in the file. Should I put in those commands the way they are in the tutorial? - Original Message - From: D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Metamorphysical [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:51 AM Subject: Video card problem Hey there. I don't know if you got your problem fixed or not, but I have a fairly simple tutorial you could try to follow. It works every time for me. http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ (Go to Tutorials, then OpenGL with NVidia) Good luck. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. Looks ok to me, the full headers don't show html. Dennis M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] html help files
robin wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: A couple of weeks ago someone told me how to convert html help files into something more useful I thought I had saved it but I can't find it. I think it involed LaTeX (sp?) I'd appreciate seeing the instructions again. If you have html2latex (it's not on the Mandrake CDs but can be downloaded - you will also need a couple of Perl modules like HTML::Tree, which are also easily downloadable) you can either import the file into LyX (better if you want to edit it) or run html2latex from the command line, then run latex on the resulting .tex file, then dvips on the resulting .dvi file, then you end up with a nice printable .ps file. Apologies for the syntax of the last sentence! You mean the first sentence, don't you ;-) (I'm laughing with you -- I may have a new standard to beat ;-) Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] html help files
A couple of weeks ago someone told me how to convert html help files into something more useful I thought I had saved it but I can't find it. I think it involed LaTeX (sp?) I'd appreciate seeing the instructions again. Thanks Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] html help files
Anne, Have you tried the archive? other than that I don't know, sorry. Tony. -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 5:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] html help files A couple of weeks ago someone told me how to convert html help files into something more useful I thought I had saved it but I can't find it. I think it involed LaTeX (sp?) I'd appreciate seeing the instructions again. Thanks Anne -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either the sender [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] html help files
There may be other ways but I saved a help page on the web by printing it to a file - this gave me a nice postscript file, the only drawback being that the links no longer worked. You could then convert it to a pdf (with ps2pdf) to save space. Anne Wilson wrote: A couple of weeks ago someone told me how to convert html help files into something more useful I thought I had saved it but I can't find it. I think it involed LaTeX (sp?) I'd appreciate seeing the instructions again. Thanks Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Graham Watkins For me, morning begins when I realize that the soft warm body curled up next to me is a cat. (Kinky Friedman - Frequent Flyer) Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] html help files
Anne Wilson wrote: A couple of weeks ago someone told me how to convert html help files into something more useful I thought I had saved it but I can't find it. I think it involed LaTeX (sp?) I'd appreciate seeing the instructions again. If you have html2latex (it's not on the Mandrake CDs but can be downloaded - you will also need a couple of Perl modules like HTML::Tree, which are also easily downloadable) you can either import the file into LyX (better if you want to edit it) or run html2latex from the command line, then run latex on the resulting .tex file, then dvips on the resulting .dvi file, then you end up with a nice printable .ps file. Apologies for the syntax of the last sentence! Sir Robin -- We're clouds over the sea, or flecks of matter in the ocean when the ocean seems lit from within. I know I'm drunk when I start this ocean talk. - Rumi Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Üniversitesi Ankara 06533 http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] HTML in KMail
Hi, KMail isn't displaying HTML messages properly, even though I have selected Prefer HTML to plain text. The text and the layout of the message are displayed properly, but no images are shown. Does anybody know what could be wrong? TIA, -- Guilherme Cirne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML in KMail
how is your attachment view set? On Wednesday 20 March 2002 10:03, Guilherme Cirne opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: Hi, KMail isn't displaying HTML messages properly, even though I have selected Prefer HTML to plain text. The text and the layout of the message are displayed properly, but no images are shown. Does anybody know what could be wrong? TIA, -- Everyone seems so impatient and angry these days. I think it's because so many people use Windows at work. Do you think you'd be Mr. Politeness Man after working on Windows 8 hrs. or more? shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML in KMail
It is set for Inlined Attachments, but I've also tried Iconic and Smart and none of them work. On Wednesday 20 March 2002 4:27 pm, you wrote: how is your attachment view set? On Wednesday 20 March 2002 10:03, Guilherme Cirne opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: Hi, KMail isn't displaying HTML messages properly, even though I have selected Prefer HTML to plain text. The text and the layout of the message are displayed properly, but no images are shown. Does anybody know what could be wrong? TIA, -- Guilherme Cirne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] HTML in Evolution
Hello, I use both Sylpheed and Evolution (1.0, on Mandrake 8.1) as mail client; Evo hangs for dozen of seconds when I try to view a HTML mail, then the it's displayed properly; this behaviour is normal or is just in my system? Thanks! Corrado Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] HTML in Evolution
Hello, I use both Sylpheed and Evolution (1.0, on Mandrake 8.1) as mail client; Evo hangs for dozen of seconds when I try to view a HTML mail, then the it's displayed properly; this behaviour is normal or is just in my system? Thanks! Corrado Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML in Evolution
I also use Evolution on Mandrake 8.1 and SuSE 7.3. Both hesitate with an HTML email. So, it isn't just your box. On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 15:41, Corrado wrote: Hello, I use both Sylpheed and Evolution (1.0, on Mandrake 8.1) as mail client; Evo hangs for dozen of seconds when I try to view a HTML mail, then the it's displayed properly; this behaviour is normal or is just in my system? Thanks! Corrado Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML: Links Anchors
On Wednesday 03 October 2001 02:17, you wrote: At 12:28 AM 10/03/2001 -0400, you wrote: On Tuesday 02 October 2001 23:41, you wrote: Gidday Andre It's not really an Html help site so I'll send the details direct This is the main page !doctype HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN html head title(Type a title for your page here)/title meta name=Generator content=Program You used to write the page meta name=Keywords content=List keywords that search engines may look for meta name=Description content=Give a description of your page meta name=Last-Modified content=Insert the date /head body background= bgcolor=#ffedce link=#ff vlink=#800080 alink=#ff0080 a href=DocToLinkTo.html#linkOpen the new Html Document at a specific place/abr !-- If you want a thumbnail to click on and link to an image use this line -- a href=DocToLinkTo.html#link2img src=DocToLinkTo.jpg alt=Open the new Html Document at an image/abr a href=#linkplace to link to on this page/abr brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr br a name=linklinked place on this page/a brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr /body /html This is the page you are linking to html head /head body background= bgcolor=#ffedce link=#ff vlink=#800080 alink=#ff0080 brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr br a name=link2img src=An Image.jpg alt=An Image/a brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr br a name=linklinked place/a brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr br brbr brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr /body /html WebTutor by Joe Barta was very helpful for me when I was learning. The URL may have changed http://junior.apk.net/~jbarta/ If it has just search for it on the net. If you have trouble finding it I'll see if I've still got it. Regards Max Thanks Max! Now that's what I call service!: I just toured www.htmlhelp.com, and then Google for info on registering my site. I was about to logoff but decided to check my mail again (I'm an e-mail addict!). The info on list keywords that search engines may look for and giving a description of your page was what I was looking for. Thanks! I'm having another annoying problem: seems like the first half of my web-page has normal text (i.e., Lucidatypewriter 12 pt), then it changes into bold even though I have not specified any fonts in Bluefish. (I didn't know how!) So, some further questions: is this font OK for the web, and secondly, isn't the size a touch BIG? Oh, the questions I have -- where would I look for details like this? My webpage is simple - I've used ps2pdf for conversion of my PS files, and to be honest, I'm not too impressed with the quality of the output. (It almost makes me long for . . . ) It's sort of fuzzy and washed-out. Unfortunately, I can get my printer (HP 4000) even to print a draft using PS and PDF Viewer. Loads but doesn't print . . .sigh! Anyway, thanks again, and gidday to you too! (Sounds like Ottawa Valley to me?) Regard, Andre Just a few pointers: #1. Do not use br as a multi-line seperator between lines of text (ie, don't have multiple br tags so that there are x number of lines of space between lines of text). #2. Do not use spaces in image or file names. I have seen too many times where this is problematic for people browsing websites. #3. Verify that all links actually point to either a complete url or to a filename, instead of somewhere on your hard drive before posting the site. #4. Your generator, if you are using one, should generate html 4.x code, not 3.2 as shown in the example -- not much of a difference, but there is still a difference. #5. Try not to use font/font in your code, as it is deprecated and may disappear in future releases of the HTML / XHTML specifications. Michael Thanks for the info, Michael. I have a few questions concerning what you've suggested: #1. What should I use to replace br as a multi-line separator? #2. What should I use to replace spaces (nbsp?) in images? #5. Is 12pt font size too big? If I understand what you're saying: fonts become user-specific to their browser/setup? (So, in effect, it doesn't matter what font I use?) Thanks for your help, Regards Andre The windows of opportunity have performed an illegal operation . . . Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML: Links Anchors
On Tuesday 02 October 2001 23:41, you wrote: Gidday Andre It's not really an Html help site so I'll send the details direct This is the main page !doctype HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN html head title(Type a title for your page here)/title meta name=Generator content=Program You used to write the page meta name=Keywords content=List keywords that search engines may look for meta name=Description content=Give a description of your page meta name=Last-Modified content=Insert the date /head body background= bgcolor=#ffedce link=#ff vlink=#800080 alink=#ff0080 a href=DocToLinkTo.html#linkOpen the new Html Document at a specific place/abr !-- If you want a thumbnail to click on and link to an image use this line -- a href=DocToLinkTo.html#link2img src=DocToLinkTo.jpg alt=Open the new Html Document at an image/abr a href=#linkplace to link to on this page/abr brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr a name=linklinked place on this page/a brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr /body /html This is the page you are linking to html head /head body background= bgcolor=#ffedce link=#ff vlink=#800080 alink=#ff0080 brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr a name=link2img src=An Image.jpg alt=An Image/a brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr a name=linklinked place/a brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr brbr brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr /body /html WebTutor by Joe Barta was very helpful for me when I was learning. The URL may have changed http://junior.apk.net/~jbarta/ If it has just search for it on the net. If you have trouble finding it I'll see if I've still got it. Regards Max Thanks Max! Now that's what I call service!: I just toured www.htmlhelp.com, and then Google for info on registering my site. I was about to logoff but decided to check my mail again (I'm an e-mail addict!). The info on list keywords that search engines may look for and giving a description of your page was what I was looking for. Thanks! I'm having another annoying problem: seems like the first half of my web-page has normal text (i.e., Lucidatypewriter 12 pt), then it changes into bold even though I have not specified any fonts in Bluefish. (I didn't know how!) So, some further questions: is this font OK for the web, and secondly, isn't the size a touch BIG? Oh, the questions I have -- where would I look for details like this? My webpage is simple - I've used ps2pdf for conversion of my PS files, and to be honest, I'm not too impressed with the quality of the output. (It almost makes me long for . . . ) It's sort of fuzzy and washed-out. Unfortunately, I can get my printer (HP 4000) even to print a draft using PS and PDF Viewer. Loads but doesn't print . . .sigh! Anyway, thanks again, and gidday to you too! (Sounds like Ottawa Valley to me?) Regard, Andre -- The windows of opportunity have performed an illegal operation . . . Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] HTML E-mail
Ok, with all the recent hostility talks, and me switching e-mail programs at home and at work, I need some help determining if this software sends HTML e-mail, without the need to be flamed. While I agree with the masses here, HTML e-mail is hard and annoying to read and deal with, sometimes a gentle nudge in the right direction without anger getting the best of you is all that a person would need. But thats just my opinion. If I did something to upset the masses, I would rather have my mistake politely pointed out to me and possible solutions to correct it rather than getting yelled at because anger only results in anger. Now with that said, I would appreciate any help on determining whether or not this e-mail program (Mail Warrior) sends HTML by default, because I have not seen anything about the form of e- mail it sends. Thank you all in advance. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML E-mail
MH wrote: Now with that said, I would appreciate any help on determining whether or not this e-mail program (Mail Warrior) sends HTML by default, because I have not seen anything about the form of e- mail it sends. Thank you all in advance. Your email was in plain text. I checked it by viewing the source (in Netscape 3) and looking at the Content-type headers. There may be several. (It takes a little practice to get the hang of what these mean.) AFAIK, HTML mails always include two copies of the message, one in plain text and one in HTML. It would be nice if more email clients could ignore the HTML, but mine and most others (AFAIK) can't. Hope this helps, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML E-mail
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 13:38:39 -0400 MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] cleverly noted: Ok, with all the recent hostility talks, and me switching e-mail programs at home and at work, I need some help determining if this software sends HTML e-mail, without the need to be flamed. While I agree with the masses here, HTML e-mail is hard and annoying to read and deal with, sometimes a gentle nudge in the right direction without anger getting the best of you is all that a person would need. But thats just my opinion. If I did something to upset the masses, I would rather have my mistake politely pointed out to me and possible solutions to correct it rather than getting yelled at because anger only results in anger. Now with that said, I would appreciate any help on determining whether or not this e-mail program (Mail Warrior) sends HTML by default, because I have not seen anything about the form of e- mail it sends. Thank you all in advance. == I received this as text. I run Sylpheed 0.6.2 Mike -- He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot. -Groucho Marx _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML E-mail
Randy, at least Netscape (and probably other HTML aware mail clients) can send text, HTML, or both. Netscape defaults to sending both, which is why you normally see the two copies you mention. Warren -- http://sites.netscape.net/srcopan/ Randy Kramer wrote: AFAIK, HTML mails always include two copies of the message, one in plain text and one in HTML. It would be nice if more email clients could ignore the HTML, but mine and most others (AFAIK) can't. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML editor sought
On Tuesday 14 August 2001 05:38, Andrei wrote: Yes quanta looks about exactly what I need. Which RMP should I download for a Mandrake 8.0 (being a pathetic newbie - I don't feel confortable compiling from sources and I don't really understand the difference between i586, 686, etc.). I suggest you try the i586, as those have always worked for me in Mandrake. If i586 or i686 is wrong for your system, nothing bad will happen. You will just get a message something like this rpm was designed for a different architecture, and it will quit without installing. Bryan *** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.2 Professional KDE 2.1.2 KMail 1.2 Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] HTML editor sought
I am looking for a good (decent) HTML editor for Mandrake 8.0 Is there something similiar to Ultra-Edit or CuteHTML available? Could anyone reccommend something light, simple, but a little more specialised that vi or any other editor? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML editor sought
I used to use UltraEdit myself, but on Linux I use nedit. It does syntax coloring, auto-indent, etc. Dave At 07:05 PM 08/13/2001 +0200, Andrei Raevsky wrote: I am looking for a good (decent) HTML editor for Mandrake 8.0 Is there something similiar to Ultra-Edit or CuteHTML available? Could anyone reccommend something light, simple, but a little more specialised that vi or any other editor? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML editor sought
Try to use bluefish or quanta plus, or the best... vi -- - Oren Gozlan Mobixell Networks Inc. p: +972 9 776 0121 f: + 972 9 740 7373 c: +972 54 536 047 www.mobixell.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - On 13 Aug 2001 12:24:01 -0500, Dave Sherman wrote: I used to use UltraEdit myself, but on Linux I use nedit. It does syntax coloring, auto-indent, etc. Dave At 07:05 PM 08/13/2001 +0200, Andrei Raevsky wrote: I am looking for a good (decent) HTML editor for Mandrake 8.0 Is there something similiar to Ultra-Edit or CuteHTML available? Could anyone reccommend something light, simple, but a little more specialised that vi or any other editor? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com =_997723316-1464-127 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
