Re: [newbie] telnet connection problems
rasta rasta wrote: hi. we're having problems with disconnecting a telnet connection. we have this custom-made shell that is run (this is run in /etc/passwd) everytime a successful telnet login occurs. but when we forcefully disconnect the telnet connection (forcefully as in not typing 'exit' in the command line) we notice that our shell is still running (typing 'ps ax' will show this) and that the shell's vmsize is increasing. after a few minutes the system would gradually slow down until it hangs. In this system we're using xinetd. we've tested our shell on another system using inetd, and the telnet and the shell disconnected cleanly. any ideas on how to resolve this issue? thanks When the telnet connection is passed to the 'custom-made shell' it is up to the 'custom-made shell' to relinquish its hold on that instance. I would look at the shell code personally. There may also be a terminal issue with the local control keystrokes not being passed to the remote server also, depend what the host os is though. Try running the shell locally, what happens when you exit? Does it still hang? Do you have the loopback interface setup, does hosts file have the 127.0.0.1 localhost in it? Try adding the ip/hosts of the connecting clients? HTH - just a list of random things I would check. -- Thanks, David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] telnet connection problems
hi. we're having problems with disconnecting a telnet connection. we have this custom-made shell that is run (this is run in /etc/passwd) everytime a successful telnet login occurs. but when we forcefully disconnect the telnet connection (forcefully as in not typing 'exit' in the command line) we notice that our shell is still running (typing 'ps ax' will show this) and that the shell's vmsize is increasing. after a few minutes the system would gradually slow down until it hangs. In this system we're using xinetd. we've tested our shell on another system using inetd, and the telnet and the shell disconnected cleanly. any ideas on how to resolve this issue? thanks Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Telnet
I am new to linux, I need to telnet into the server at school. Can someone tell me if I need a seperate telnet client or what commands might one use to telnet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet
Elliot Somers wrote: I am new to linux, I need to telnet into the server at school. Can someone tell me if I need a seperate telnet client or what commands might one use to telnet? Tere should be a shell telnet menu item in your NetworkingRemote access section You can telnet directly from a console window... telnet your.school.edu Gtelnet is another command line telnet/ssh/rlogin client. If you want something else with a split window for separating typed text and output from your school's telnet server, with double split-screen scrollback, take a look at Kmuddy. Version 0.7 pre4 was just released. You'll need to build it yourself if you want the latest version, but it's worth it. The home page for Kmuddy is here: http://www.kmuddy.org/download.php It is actually a mud client, but with the mud stuff disabled in preferences, it makes a great split-screen telnet client as well as a decent talker client. I like the separation of incoming and outgoing text, though it's probably not worth installing unless you do a lot of telnet stuff. You didn't mention what you were intending to do. Rick Kunath Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Telnet
How do I start the telnet server on my box. Thanks Alan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] telnet delays before login prompt
Hi everyone, When I telnet or ssh my Linux box, residing on the same LAN, it delays like 10 seconds before it sends me the first login prompt. It's a Mandrake 10 and that problem occurs since the upgrade from 9.x Probably it is some security setting somewhere. Please help me, I am trying to set up a CVS server and the delay is killing me. Best regards, Levent Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] telnet question
On Saturday 17 January 2004 18:54, racerpup2 wrote: If I telnet into my site host what command could I use to find out where my site is located on their server. I need to figure out exact server path to a perl script. TIA walt try pwd -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] telnet question
If I telnet into my site host what command could I use to find out where my site is located on their server. I need to figure out exact server path to a perl script. TIA walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet and FTP
Please, look at the following scenario: 1. I logon to Linux box 2. in the telnet console I initialize a ftp session, from the Linux box, to another machine (machine 2) 3. I initialize a download from machine 2 to the Linux box 4. I put the ftp process in the background 5. logout from the Linux box In this moment, I expect the download to continue, but it doesn't. I if use the same scenario but I use wget instead of ftp, the download works in background even after I logout the Linux box. Question: it is normal that the ftp download stops after I logout or am I missing something? SK What commands are you using for the ftp - a script? Regular commands SK typed into the console? I use regular commands typed into the console. ftp ftp://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ mget something Ctrl-Z bg logout -- Ciprian A lottery is just a tax on people who are bad at math. - Heinlein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Telnet and FTP
Hello, I (sort of) administer a Linux box. Please, look at the following scenario: 1. I logon to Linux box 2. in the telnet console I initialize a ftp session, from the Linux box, to another machine (machine 2) 3. I initialize a download from machine 2 to the Linux box 4. I put the ftp process in the background 5. logout from the Linux box In this moment, I expect the download to continue, but it doesn't. I if use the same scenario but I use wget instead of ftp, the download works in background even after I logout the Linux box. Question: it is normal that the ftp download stops after I logout or am I missing something? -- Regards, Ciprian Confucius say, He who chases car will get exhausted. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Telnet problem
Hi when i try to connect to telnet 127.0.0.1 23 i get Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused in /var/log/messages i get socket creation failed (Address family not supported by protocol (errno = 97)). service = telnet What is the problem ? -- = So long, And thanks for all the fish. = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet problem
Hi when i try to connect to telnet 127.0.0.1 23 i get Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused in /var/log/messages i get socket creation failed (Address family not supported by protocol (errno = 97)). service = telnet What is the problem ? Is telnetd installed, newer versions of Mandrake doesn't install telnetd automaticly IIRC /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet
So, if everything works, why doesn't telnet?!?! I am almost out of ideas...
What security level are you running? In msec 4 level, Services not
contained in /etc/security/msec/server.4 are disabled during
package installation ( considered as not really secure ) ( but the user
can reenable it with chkconfig -add ). telnet is not in the default
server.4 file. Security level is stored in the SECURE_LEVEL env variable.
man msec and /usr/share/doc/msec-0.36/security.txt contain more details.
sorry, no other ideas :-{
raffaele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 17:30, Raffaele Belardi wrote:
Raffaele
when i ping 127.0.0.1 all is ok i get replay.
when i urmpi i get
everything already installed
when doing the ps command i get
1364 ?S 0:00 xinetd -stayalive -reuse -pidfile
/var/run/xinetd.pid
3724 pts/2S 0:00 grep xinetd
there is a file call /etc/xinetd.d/telnet and it contains the line disable=no
/etc/xinetd.conf contains only data regarding to hotwayd
Gil
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Re: [newbie] Telnet
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 17:30, Raffaele Belardi wrote: Raffaele when i run tail -f on /var/log/messages i get the following Feb 26 13:35:38 katz xinetd[18006]: socket creation failed (Address family not supported by protocol (errno = 97)). service = telnet any idea? Gil Gil, you should provide more details in your message for us to be helpful! A cut and paste of the output of shell commands, in particular, could help understand what's going on on your machine. Does ping 127.0.0.1 work? You should see something like 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1:... repeated on the screen until you press CTRL-C. Understand that telnet is composed by a client (invoked as # telnet) and a server (named telnetd, note the final 'd'). Normally the server is _not_ installed by default. On MDK9.0 the server package is named telnet-server-krb5-1.2.5-1mdk To make sure the server is installed, type # urpmi telnet-server-krb5 You should get a message like everything already installed. I installed the telnet server on my MDK to check. First of all, it's a xinetd service, so it will not normally be shown by ps (I was wrong on this regard in my previous message). xinetd is a daemon that monitors the incoming calls on all ports and starts the registered services on request. So, try this: # service xinetd start Do you get an OK? To double check, type # ps -ax | grep xinetd you should see two lines. Then, go to /etc/xinetd.d and do an ls. Do you see there a file named telnet? This is the telnet server configuration file read by xinetd daemon when it detects an incoming request on the telnet port. Open it with a text editor and check that it contains the line disable = no (it means that the telnet server is enabled). Finally, open /etc/xinetd.conf and check that it _does_not_ contain any only_from lines. If it does, delete them. There's not much more to telnetd configuration. good luck, raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 09:36, Raffaele Belardi wrote: Raffaele it seems that i can't start telnet service when i do service telnet start i get ok but in mcc the status is stop hosts.allow and hosts.deney are empty. Gil I would: 1. make sure interface is up (ping 127.0.0.1) 2. make sure you have the telnet server package installed (Mandrake Control Center) 3. make sure telenet server is up and running (ps -axl) 4. check /etc/xinetd.conf for any ONLY_FROM lines 5. check that /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny are empty The last two are the least probable causes, unless you have messed up with the security scripts. What level of security are you running? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 24 February 2003 11:33, Raffaele Belardi wrote: Didn't work any other idea's? Gil Assuming that you have the telnet server installed, you need to start it (Mandrake Control Center, System tab, Services icon). Also, I had a similar problem on the MDK PC I use at home, where I have a modem Internet connection. I looks like if you don't connect to internet, loopback port is not enabled by default, so you get the error below. I had to issue a # ifup lo as root, then it worked ok. raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi when ever i try to connect to telnet 127.0.0.1 port i get Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused in /etc/hosts.allow i wrote telnet : 127.0.0.1 what should i do? Gil -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- = So long, And thanks for all the fish. = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 09:36, Raffaele Belardi wrote: Raffaele it seems that i can't start telnet service when i do service telnet start i get ok but in mcc the status is stop hosts.allow and hosts.deney are empty. Gil I would: 1. make sure interface is up (ping 127.0.0.1) 2. make sure you have the telnet server package installed (Mandrake Control Center) 3. make sure telenet server is up and running (ps -axl) 4. check /etc/xinetd.conf for any ONLY_FROM lines 5. check that /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny are empty The last two are the least probable causes, unless you have messed up with the security scripts. What level of security are you running? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 24 February 2003 11:33, Raffaele Belardi wrote: Didn't work any other idea's? Gil Assuming that you have the telnet server installed, you need to start it (Mandrake Control Center, System tab, Services icon). Also, I had a similar problem on the MDK PC I use at home, where I have a modem Internet connection. I looks like if you don't connect to internet, loopback port is not enabled by default, so you get the error below. I had to issue a # ifup lo as root, then it worked ok. raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi when ever i try to connect to telnet 127.0.0.1 port i get Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused in /etc/hosts.allow i wrote telnet : 127.0.0.1 what should i do? Gil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- = So long, And thanks for all the fish. = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet
Gil, you should provide more details in your message for us to be helpful! A cut and paste of the output of shell commands, in particular, could help understand what's going on on your machine. Does ping 127.0.0.1 work? You should see something like 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1:... repeated on the screen until you press CTRL-C. Understand that telnet is composed by a client (invoked as # telnet) and a server (named telnetd, note the final 'd'). Normally the server is _not_ installed by default. On MDK9.0 the server package is named telnet-server-krb5-1.2.5-1mdk To make sure the server is installed, type # urpmi telnet-server-krb5 You should get a message like everything already installed. I installed the telnet server on my MDK to check. First of all, it's a xinetd service, so it will not normally be shown by ps (I was wrong on this regard in my previous message). xinetd is a daemon that monitors the incoming calls on all ports and starts the registered services on request. So, try this: # service xinetd start Do you get an OK? To double check, type # ps -ax | grep xinetd you should see two lines. Then, go to /etc/xinetd.d and do an ls. Do you see there a file named telnet? This is the telnet server configuration file read by xinetd daemon when it detects an incoming request on the telnet port. Open it with a text editor and check that it contains the line disable = no (it means that the telnet server is enabled). Finally, open /etc/xinetd.conf and check that it _does_not_ contain any only_from lines. If it does, delete them. There's not much more to telnetd configuration. good luck, raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 09:36, Raffaele Belardi wrote: Raffaele it seems that i can't start telnet service when i do service telnet start i get ok but in mcc the status is stop hosts.allow and hosts.deney are empty. Gil I would: 1. make sure interface is up (ping 127.0.0.1) 2. make sure you have the telnet server package installed (Mandrake Control Center) 3. make sure telenet server is up and running (ps -axl) 4. check /etc/xinetd.conf for any ONLY_FROM lines 5. check that /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny are empty The last two are the least probable causes, unless you have messed up with the security scripts. What level of security are you running? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 24 February 2003 11:33, Raffaele Belardi wrote: Didn't work any other idea's? Gil Assuming that you have the telnet server installed, you need to start it (Mandrake Control Center, System tab, Services icon). Also, I had a similar problem on the MDK PC I use at home, where I have a modem Internet connection. I looks like if you don't connect to internet, loopback port is not enabled by default, so you get the error below. I had to issue a # ifup lo as root, then it worked ok. raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi when ever i try to connect to telnet 127.0.0.1 port i get Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused in /etc/hosts.allow i wrote telnet : 127.0.0.1 what should i do? Gil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet
Assuming that you have the telnet server installed, you need to start it (Mandrake Control Center, System tab, Services icon). Also, I had a similar problem on the MDK PC I use at home, where I have a modem Internet connection. I looks like if you don't connect to internet, loopback port is not enabled by default, so you get the error below. I had to issue a # ifup lo as root, then it worked ok. raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi when ever i try to connect to telnet 127.0.0.1 port i get Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused in /etc/hosts.allow i wrote telnet : 127.0.0.1 what should i do? Gil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet
I would: 1. make sure interface is up (ping 127.0.0.1) 2. make sure you have the telnet server package installed (Mandrake Control Center) 3. make sure telenet server is up and running (ps -axl) 4. check /etc/xinetd.conf for any ONLY_FROM lines 5. check that /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny are empty The last two are the least probable causes, unless you have messed up with the security scripts. What level of security are you running? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 24 February 2003 11:33, Raffaele Belardi wrote: Didn't work any other idea's? Gil Assuming that you have the telnet server installed, you need to start it (Mandrake Control Center, System tab, Services icon). Also, I had a similar problem on the MDK PC I use at home, where I have a modem Internet connection. I looks like if you don't connect to internet, loopback port is not enabled by default, so you get the error below. I had to issue a # ifup lo as root, then it worked ok. raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi when ever i try to connect to telnet 127.0.0.1 port i get Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused in /etc/hosts.allow i wrote telnet : 127.0.0.1 what should i do? Gil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet
On Saturday 22 February 2003 07:22, Larry Williams wrote: Stephan the answer to your 2 q is no and i'll be tahnkfull if you will e-mail them to me Larry i have enteries in /etc/services one of them is telnet 23/tcp i tried to cennect to port 23 and nothing, i installed telnet server on the comp but not sure if it works. the whole problem started when i try to use hotwayd and could'nt connect to hotwayd via telnet. Gil On Friday 21 February 2003 03:35, Gil Katz wrote: Hi when ever i try to connect to telnet 127.0.0.1 port i get Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused in /etc/hosts.allow i wrote telnet : 127.0.0.1 what should i do? Gil Hi Gil. I get the same thing here, but I didn't allow the telnet service when I installed. Do you have telnet entries in /etc/services? Do you have a telnet server installed? -- = So long, And thanks for all the fish. = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet
On Saturday 22 February 2003 09:00, Larry Williams wrote: On Saturday 22 February 2003 06:08, Gil Katz wrote: On Saturday 22 February 2003 07:22, Larry Williams wrote: Stephan the answer to your 2 q is no and i'll be tahnkfull if you will e-mail them to me Larry i have enteries in /etc/services one of them is telnet 23/tcp i tried to cennect to port 23 and nothing, i installed telnet server on the comp but not sure if it works. the whole problem started when i try to use hotwayd and could'nt connect to hotwayd via telnet. Gil I just looked up HotWayd online. Very interesting. I use gotmail, but I think I'll try out HotWayd. Following up to my pown message, I did download and install HotWayd. Very sleek indeed. Looks like it will be a better solution than gotmail. Not that gotmail is bad, but it does have to be run as a precommand in Kmail, where HotWayd is just another POP3 service. Anyway, I followed the instructions as written on the web site and set my port to 8110. I then did telnet localhost 8110 and got a familiar POP3 greeting. Entering user [EMAIL PROTECTED] and pass secretword got me another familiar POP3 response after it negotiated with a hotmail server. Gil, make sure you're using the correct port in your telnet command, then reply here to let us know if it's working now. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Telnet
Hi when ever i try to connect to telnet 127.0.0.1 port i get Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused in /etc/hosts.allow i wrote telnet : 127.0.0.1 what should i do? Gil -- = So long, And thanks for all the fish. = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 22:35, Gil Katz wrote: Hi when ever i try to connect to telnet 127.0.0.1 port i get Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused in /etc/hosts.allow i wrote telnet : 127.0.0.1 what should i do? Gil 127.0.0.1 is the loopback port - try doing a telnet to your real ip address - you should be able to connect (and make sure that the telnetd is running) -- Fri, 21 Feb 2003 22:45:00 +1100 10:45pm up 2 days, 11:28, 6 users, load average: 0.07, 0.29, 0.25 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Scully: I just came up with a pretty sick theory Mulder. Mulder: Oooh, I'm listening! The X-Files: Our Town Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet
On Friday 21 February 2003 03:35, Gil Katz wrote: Hi when ever i try to connect to telnet 127.0.0.1 port i get Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused in /etc/hosts.allow i wrote telnet : 127.0.0.1 what should i do? Gil Hi Gil. I get the same thing here, but I didn't allow the telnet service when I installed. Do you have telnet entries in /etc/services? Do you have a telnet server installed? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Telnet session
Hi everybody, Im wondering to know, how can I accept Telnet conections into my linux server, I already have installed the telnet-server, stop the ipchains service and nothing happened, I did this before and never has this kind of problem. Do I miss something Thanks for your time Nenister
Re: [newbie] Telnet session
On Wednesday 14 August 2002 04:05 pm, N E N I S T E R wrote: Hi everybody, Im wondering to know, how can I accept Telnet conections into my linux server, I already have installed the telnet-server, stop the ipchains service and nothing happened, I did this before and never has this kind of problem . Do I miss something Look in /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow -Mad -- Madness is soil in which creativity grows - Chris Bielek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet and Webmin problems
I was able to ssh into the machine from itself. I downloaded PUTTY for my Win98 machine and was also able to login. I tried to use HyperTerminal to port 22 but it did not work. Telnet is not listed in the services. It was earlier, but was gone after I rebooted. It is not listed in /etc/init.d Everything else appears to be fine. The switch and hub are ok. Brian Parish[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/19/02 8:27:47 PM First response is don't use telnet as it compromises your security in a big way. Try ssh instead. ssh -l your-user-name ip-address But that doesn't address your problem. Have a look in Control Center | System | Services. Is telnetd listed there? Is it listed to start at boot? Has the system been rebooted recently? The fact that it is so slow on webmin may indicate other issues on course. Can you run top on the machine to see what is taking the CPU? Start there and report back. HTH Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet and Webmin problems
Did you install a firewall recently by any chance? InteractiveBastille will give telnet the chop given half a chance. Maybe others do too. Anyway, given that putty works from W$, is there a reason to have telnet? Better off without it if not. Brian On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 11:51, Leonard W.Miller wrote: I was able to ssh into the machine from itself. I downloaded PUTTY for my Win98 machine and was also able to login. I tried to use HyperTerminal to port 22 but it did not work. Telnet is not listed in the services. It was earlier, but was gone after I rebooted. It is not listed in /etc/init.d Everything else appears to be fine. The switch and hub are ok. Brian Parish[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/19/02 8:27:47 PM First response is don't use telnet as it compromises your security in a big way. Try ssh instead. ssh -l your-user-name ip-address But that doesn't address your problem. Have a look in Control Center | System | Services. Is telnetd listed there? Is it listed to start at boot? Has the system been rebooted recently? The fact that it is so slow on webmin may indicate other issues on course. Can you run top on the machine to see what is taking the CPU? Start there and report back. HTH Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet and Webmin problems
I can use PUTTY without a problem. I actually like it more than HyperTerminal. More screen to work with. I still need to get the webmin thing figured out though. I'll work on it later. Thanks Brian Parish[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/19/02 9:27:19 PM Did you install a firewall recently by any chance? InteractiveBastille will give telnet the chop given half a chance. Maybe others do too. Anyway, given that putty works from W$, is there a reason to have telnet? Better off without it if not. Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet and Webmin problems
BTW, Nothing has changed on the network. The firewall has been up for months. So has the server. No config changes or anything. It worked last night, but didn't want to work today. Brian Parish[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/19/02 9:27:19 PM Did you install a firewall recently by any chance? InteractiveBastille will give telnet the chop given half a chance. Maybe others do too. Anyway, given that putty works from W$, is there a reason to have telnet? Better off without it if not. Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] telnet / pcmcia
Some posted earlier that in order to fix my network issues I should recompile the kernel with PCMCIA driver set to YES. This is not an option under kernel config all I could find was PCMCIA card bus. Also someone mentioned that mdk 8.1 telnet was broken and there was a fix. Where can I get this? Thanks. Paul Kraus Network Administrator PEL Supply Company (216) 267-5775 Voice (216) 267-6176 Fax www.pelsupply.com
[newbie] Telnet config
Where are the telnet config files located on Mandrake 8.1
Re: [newbie] Telnet config
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:03:50 -0800 Jesse Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are the telnet config files located on Mandrake 8.1 See 'man telnet' : FILES ~/.telnetrc user-customized telnet startup values Telnet doesn't encrypt passwords so maybe you'd better use SSH. HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet config
of course if you are asking where is a graphical front end to allow configuration of telbet, you could try webmin On Sunday 23 December 2001 14:51, you wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:03:50 -0800 Jesse Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are the telnet config files located on Mandrake 8.1 See 'man telnet' : FILES ~/.telnetrc user-customized telnet startup values Telnet doesn't encrypt passwords so maybe you'd better use SSH. HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet config
Nope the text configuration files, my 166mhz 32 meg ram is almost incapable of xwindows... - Original Message - From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Telnet config of course if you are asking where is a graphical front end to allow configuration of telbet, you could try webmin On Sunday 23 December 2001 14:51, you wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:03:50 -0800 Jesse Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are the telnet config files located on Mandrake 8.1 See 'man telnet' : FILES ~/.telnetrc user-customized telnet startup values Telnet doesn't encrypt passwords so maybe you'd better use SSH. HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet config
do you have a text based web browser? On Sunday 23 December 2001 17:26, you wrote: Nope the text configuration files, my 166mhz 32 meg ram is almost incapable of xwindows... - Original Message - From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Telnet config of course if you are asking where is a graphical front end to allow configuration of telbet, you could try webmin On Sunday 23 December 2001 14:51, you wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:03:50 -0800 Jesse Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are the telnet config files located on Mandrake 8.1 See 'man telnet' : FILES ~/.telnetrc user-customized telnet startup values Telnet doesn't encrypt passwords so maybe you'd better use SSH. HTH, -Frans --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet config
try this (without the quotes) lynx https://127.0.0.1:1; and log in as root. On Sunday 23 December 2001 15:43, you wrote: do you have a text based web browser? On Sunday 23 December 2001 17:26, you wrote: Nope the text configuration files, my 166mhz 32 meg ram is almost incapable of xwindows... - Original Message - From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Telnet config of course if you are asking where is a graphical front end to allow configuration of telbet, you could try webmin On Sunday 23 December 2001 14:51, you wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:03:50 -0800 Jesse Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are the telnet config files located on Mandrake 8.1 See 'man telnet' : FILES ~/.telnetrc user-customized telnet startup values Telnet doesn't encrypt passwords so maybe you'd better use SSH. HTH, -Frans - -- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet config
Not that I know of, where can i get one and where can i get a text based pop3 email client - Original Message - From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Telnet config do you have a text based web browser? On Sunday 23 December 2001 17:26, you wrote: Nope the text configuration files, my 166mhz 32 meg ram is almost incapable of xwindows... - Original Message - From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Telnet config of course if you are asking where is a graphical front end to allow configuration of telbet, you could try webmin On Sunday 23 December 2001 14:51, you wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:03:50 -0800 Jesse Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are the telnet config files located on Mandrake 8.1 See 'man telnet' : FILES ~/.telnetrc user-customized telnet startup values Telnet doesn't encrypt passwords so maybe you'd better use SSH. HTH, -Frans -- - - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet config
try pine might be installed already On Sunday 23 December 2001 17:47, you wrote: Not that I know of, where can i get one and where can i get a text based pop3 email client - Original Message - From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Telnet config do you have a text based web browser? On Sunday 23 December 2001 17:26, you wrote: Nope the text configuration files, my 166mhz 32 meg ram is almost incapable of xwindows... - Original Message - From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Telnet config of course if you are asking where is a graphical front end to allow configuration of telbet, you could try webmin On Sunday 23 December 2001 14:51, you wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:03:50 -0800 Jesse Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are the telnet config files located on Mandrake 8.1 See 'man telnet' : FILES ~/.telnetrc user-customized telnet startup values Telnet doesn't encrypt passwords so maybe you'd better use SSH. HTH, -Frans - - - - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet config
hm Lynx works but that address does not - Original Message - From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Telnet config try this (without the quotes) lynx https://127.0.0.1:1; and log in as root. On Sunday 23 December 2001 15:43, you wrote: do you have a text based web browser? On Sunday 23 December 2001 17:26, you wrote: Nope the text configuration files, my 166mhz 32 meg ram is almost incapable of xwindows... - Original Message - From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Telnet config of course if you are asking where is a graphical front end to allow configuration of telbet, you could try webmin On Sunday 23 December 2001 14:51, you wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:03:50 -0800 Jesse Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are the telnet config files located on Mandrake 8.1 See 'man telnet' : FILES ~/.telnetrc user-customized telnet startup values Telnet doesn't encrypt passwords so maybe you'd better use SSH. HTH, -Frans - -- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet config
h, since that should be the LO interface of YOUR computer, and the 1 port is standard for webmin, maybe you don't have webmin installed? On Sunday 23 December 2001 17:54, you wrote: hm Lynx works but that address does not - Original Message - From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Telnet config try this (without the quotes) lynx https://127.0.0.1:1; and log in as root. On Sunday 23 December 2001 15:43, you wrote: do you have a text based web browser? On Sunday 23 December 2001 17:26, you wrote: Nope the text configuration files, my 166mhz 32 meg ram is almost incapable of xwindows... - Original Message - From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Telnet config of course if you are asking where is a graphical front end to allow configuration of telbet, you could try webmin On Sunday 23 December 2001 14:51, you wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:03:50 -0800 Jesse Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are the telnet config files located on Mandrake 8.1 See 'man telnet' : FILES ~/.telnetrc user-customized telnet startup values Telnet doesn't encrypt passwords so maybe you'd better use SSH. HTH, -Frans - -- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet config
At 04:07 PM 12/23/2001 -0500, you wrote:
h, since that should be the LO interface of YOUR computer, and the 1
port is standard for webmin, maybe you don't have webmin installed?
Or possibly it isn't started. As Frank suggested, make sure that telnet is
not available to the outside world (ie, anything outside of your home PCs).
If you need remote access capabilities, try using ssh (specifically
openssh) instead.
The specific file to make sure is there, for Mandrake 8.1, is a file called
'telnet' in /etc/xinetd.d/ (which is where the xinetd configuration files go).
The file should contain:
service telnet
{
disable = no
flags = REUSE
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= root
server = /usr/sbin/telnetd
server_args = -a none
log_on_failure += USERID
}
If it doesn't, telnet will be disabled.
If you make any changes to any file under /etc/xinetd.d, make sure to
restart xinetd by typing '/etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart' or 'service
xinetd restart' from the command line. (Note any editing / restarting of
the xinetd and most other servers must be done as root).
Michael
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Re: [newbie] Telnet display problems
On 10 Dec 2001 08:31:25 -0600 Ben Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] frantically pecked out this message: I have a problem in telnet. When I go to a console window this doesn't happen, but when I telnet into other servers, my display is staggered. Like this: Login: testuser Password: Last login: Wed Oct 6 22:07:20 from linux temp% The next line starts where the line above it ends. I've tried other terminal types, but nothing seems to change it. Anyone have any ideas? I'm running ML 8.1. Ben Lee Not a clue Ben, but telnet is evil. ssh on the other hand is wonderful AND it's secure. Prolly won't stager the text on the screen either. although i can't be sure since i really don't know why that is happening. since my two cents isn't really worth all that much i guess i'll jest shuut up. -- Mark Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 9:05pm up 1 day, 23:01, 1 user, load average: 1.74, 1.15, 0.75 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Telnet display problems
I have a problem in telnet. When I go to a console window this doesn't happen, but when I telnet into other servers, my display is staggered. Like this: Login: testuser Password: Last login: Wed Oct 6 22:07:20 from linux temp% The next line starts where the line above it ends. I've tried other terminal types, but nothing seems to change it. Anyone have any ideas? I'm running ML 8.1. Ben Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Telnet refused
Last time I booted my Linux box I could telnet in to it, now I can't. I can ping it, and I can connect with VNC, so the connection is obviously working, but when I try telnet it is refused. Can anyone help me with any basic pointers please? John Clegg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet refused
On Saturday 22 September 2001 14:01, John Clegg wrote: for some reason I can't quote your message. this is regarding telnet working at first but not after a reboot. Go into the mandrake control center, it's likely on your desktop. Then system services. See if you can find telnetd in there. Is on boot checked? If not check it and reboot. Your telnet daemon should be up and running. Matt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet refused
At 14:20 22.09.2001 -0500, you wrote: On Saturday 22 September 2001 14:01, John Clegg wrote: for some reason I can't quote your message. this is regarding telnet working at first but not after a reboot. Go into the mandrake control center, it's likely on your desktop. Then system services. See if you can find telnetd in there. Is on boot checked? If not check it and reboot. Your telnet daemon should be up and running. Matt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com check your /etc/inetd.conf file whether your telnet server is commented out or not... otherwise check your hosts.allow and hosts.deny as well as eventually existing ipchains rules... --quay Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet refused
Did you recently install any firewalls? -Paul Rodríguez On 22 Sep 2001 17:58:43 -0500, Michael D. Viron wrote: check your /etc/inetd.conf file whether your telnet server is commented out or not... otherwise check your hosts.allow and hosts.deny as well as eventually existing ipchains rules... --quay The above is true only if he is running 7.1 and earlier. 7.2 and later use xinetd, which has its files under /etc/xinetd.d/ . Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida =_1001199836-779-991 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Telnet proxy for Windows; a Linux VPN work around?
One of the last reasons that I can't completely go 100% linux is that I must VPN in to work from home, and I cannot for the life of me get VPN on linux to work. So I had this bright(?) idea - if I could run a telnet proxy and start up the VPN client on my windows box then I should be able to telnet from my linux box through the proxy onto work. I have found Pro Gatekeeper (http://www.proxy-pro.com/), but it doesn' seem to work when I telnet from linux through the proxy to work, but it works great if I telnet from windows through the proxy to work. I have written Pro Gatekeeper's support about this issue, but I was wondering I anyone else here has thought of this and has got a proxy service running on Windows that is compatible with linux telnet? If I could get this to work, I think I could finally dump my windows system and relagate it to a VPN server thanks for your help... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] TELNET help! Please?
it is, telnet is started by inetd or xinetd (depending on what you have installed..) if its xinetd, go into /etc/xinetd.d and check the telnet entry... make sure it doesn't have disable=yes in there, also, it might not hurt to comment out the +=USERID lines for logon success and logon failure,, I had problems once until I did that.. I also usually add a line to the effect:only_from = 192.168.0.1 #or whatever your ip is... adds that little bit more protection, expecially since telnet doesn't have alot to start with. swap to ssh, its just as easy.. load and install ssh and ssl on your linux box.. for windows clients, download Terra Term Pro and the ssh addin (free) (this is your telnet capable client prog, ssh and telnet work much the same once connected.) then download Ixplorer, which is a ftp type frontend for putty, which is a dos ssh ftp (scp) client.. all of that is free, and if you download Ixplorer which has putty built in, then its as easy as... give it a shot... rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marchetti, Peter Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2001 12:27 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [newbie] TELNET help! Please? I have read every man page, searched the web 12 dozen times...tried EVERYTHING I can think of...telnet WILL NOT let me log into my server. If anyone would like to help me out, please drop me an e-mail...I'm losin my mind here... I thought telnet was supposed to be easy to use? Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] TELNET help! Please?
Telnet is easy to use, but it's starting to be phased out because it's
insecure.
The odds are, if you're dealing with a Mandrake 8.0 install, the telnet
server is not installed. As I recall, it's not set to install
automatically. But run this command to determine if the server is
actually started.
[timh@r2d2 timh]$ rpm -qa | grep telnet
gnome-telnet-2.4-2mdk
telnet-0.17-7mdk
ktelnet-0.7b1-7mdk
As you can see, I don't have the telnet server installed. The RPM
you're looking for is telnet-server-0.17-7mdk.i586.rpm. As I recall,
it's on the first CD.
Try:
rpm -ivh telnet-server-0.17-7mdk.i586.rpm
Then try and telnet to the machine. However I would suggest you find
the OpenSSH RPMs on the disc, install those and leave telnet server
unistalled.
[timh@ericekong mandrake80]$ ls -la openssh* | awk '{print
$5,$6,$7,$8,$9}'
130192 Apr 13 10:14 openssh-2.5.2p2-3mdk.i586.rpm
31197 Apr 13 10:14 openssh-askpass-2.5.2p2-3mdk.i586.rpm
11513 Apr 13 10:14 openssh-askpass-gnome-2.5.2p2-3mdk.i586.rpm
213305 Apr 13 10:14 openssh-clients-2.5.2p2-3mdk.i586.rpm
151961 Apr 13 10:14 openssh-server-2.5.2p2-3mdk.i586.rpm
Those would be the RPMs you'd need to install. Hope that helps ya.
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[newbie] TELNET help! Please?
I have read every man page, searched the web 12 dozen times...tried EVERYTHING I can think of...telnet WILL NOT let me log into my server. If anyone would like to help me out, please drop me an e-mail...I'm losin my mind here... I thought telnet was supposed to be easy to use? Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] TELNET help! Please?
On Friday 31 August 2001 12:26, Marchetti, Peter wrote: I have read every man page, searched the web 12 dozen times...tried EVERYTHING I can think of...telnet WILL NOT let me log into my server. If anyone would like to help me out, please drop me an e-mail...I'm losin my mind here... I thought telnet was supposed to be easy to use? Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmmm, did you try ssh? Same functionality as telnet without the security hassles. It may be that your telnet server isn't running or that the port is blocked. If you selected HIGH security the chances are good that this has already stopped telnet. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Telnet
On Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:14, Michael D. Viron wrote: I opened the installer and searched for telnet in the installable area. There is nothing anymore, since I have installed already. Same for CVS, everything is installed. There are two packages that must be installed for bi-directional telnet: telnet and telnet-server. CVS must be installed for cvs. This, of course, is fine if your machine is behind a firewall, which blocks cvs and telnet access to everything behind it. If it isn't, I would seriously consider piping cvs over ssh, which is encrypted. There are howtos which can be found via google. Why are you using telnet? It is a MASSIVE security risk, since it sends cleartext (unencrypted) passwords. OpenSSH can do everything that telnet can, plus it is very secure. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
[newbie] Telnet
Hello! Newbie again... I have problems installing a cvs server on a Linux Mandrake platform. On one cvs troubleshooting page, it was said that I should try first to telnet to myID@hostname 2401. It does not work. Then, I simply tried to telnet to that machine, and it does not work either. Then, on that machine, telnet localhost does not work... (connection refused in all cases). I opened the setup tool (Mandrake control center), and tried to figure out what's wrong. As there is a telnet item, I wanted to start it. I got a "telnet : unrecognized service" error message. As there is also a CVS button (which is the purpose of my efforts, I pushed that button as well, and got the same message. I opened the installer and searched for telnet in the "installable" area. There is nothing anymore, since I have installed already. Same for CVS, everything is installed. Beside that, this machine works fine as an IP router. As I have 1 IP address for a few machines, I use this box to do the job. I would greatly appreciate some hints to help me to solve these problems. Thanks, Pascal
[newbie] telnet and ftp question
Hi to all, I recently installl LM 7.1, and everything is fine.. well.. almost everything, only I have 2 problem. 1- I can make telnet to other hosts/machine but other hosts/machine can't access my address, check the hosts.allow and hosts.deny but I don't that can I do. 2- When I make a ftp to my address in the server with LM 7.1but it's take a while to prompt me for the user name(about 1 or 2 mins.) What can I do? or check? Thanks in advance
Re: [newbie] telnet not installed?
On Sunday 08 July 2001 09:04 pm, Michael F. Aube wrote: I just got Mandrake 8.0 installed on my laptop, but I can't seem to find the telnet program. Anyone have any ideas where it might be, or why it wasn't installed? IIRC, it was left out on purpose because 'ssh' provides secure remote logins. see 'man ssh' -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[newbie] telnet not installed?
Hi Folks, I just got Mandrake 8.0 installed on my laptop, but I can't seem to find the telnet program. Anyone have any ideas where it might be, or why it wasn't installed? Thanks in advance, M!ke = May the Force be with you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Telnet/FTP not starting after install
The problem is the telnet ftp services are not reachable from another PC on the LAN. I can ping the Linux box OK, but when I try to telnet or ftp, I get the message Connection to host lost I've checked the processes that are running, both ftp telnet are NOT running, however when I reboot the box the network processes say they load ok. Perhaps you have to enable the FTP and TELNEt daemons in /etc/inetd.conf You need to restart to get these running then, or do killall inetd SIGHUP (not sure about this one) Paul
Re: [newbie] Telnet/FTP not starting after install
Honestly, it doesn't sound like the server is installed, but I think that with 7.1, it was installed automatically unless you tell it otherwise. Make sure it is installed. [root@r2d2 /root] rpm -qa | grep telnet telnet-0.17-7mdk gnome-telnet-2.4-2mdk ktelnet-0.7b1-7mdk You need to make sure the telnet-server is listed there. I don't use telnet due to security issues, so it's not installed on my machine. Do the same thing with FTP. The two apps that run FTP servers are ProFTP and WU-Ftp. [root@r2d2 /etc] rpm -qa | grep wu-ftp [root@r2d2 /etc] rpm -qa | grep proftp proftpd-1.2.2-0.rc1.3mdk At which point try using ntsysv to make sure the daemons are started. But it sounds like you don't have those servers installed from what I've gathered from your post. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! Uptime: 7:33AM up 6 days, 21:26, 7 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.02, 0.00 | Hi folks, | | I've got a problem with a recent new installation of Linux-Mandrake v 7.1. | The installation was completed without any errors. The PC is connected to an | office LAN. I've set up the network options, although I've copied the domain | gateway settings from an WinNT box. | | The problem is the telnet ftp services are not reachable from another PC | on the LAN. I can ping the Linux box OK, but when I try to telnet or ftp, I | get the message Connection to host lost | | I've checked the processes that are running, both ftp telnet are NOT | running, however when I reboot the box the network processes say they load | ok. | | Can anyone point me in the direction of how to get the telnet ftp | processes to start automatically? | | Thanks, | Gareth | | --
[newbie] Telnet/FTP not starting after install
Hi folks, I've got a problem with a recent new installation of Linux-Mandrake v 7.1. The installation was completed without any errors. The PC is connected to an office LAN. I've set up the network options, although I've copied the domain gateway settings from an WinNT box. The problem is the telnet ftp services are not reachable from another PC on the LAN. I can ping the Linux box OK, but when I try to telnet or ftp, I get the message Connection to host lost I've checked the processes that are running, both ftp telnet are NOT running, however when I reboot the box the network processes say they load ok. Can anyone point me in the direction of how to get the telnet ftp processes to start automatically? Thanks, Gareth
[newbie] Telnet command gone?
Dear all, When I connected to my company network, it seems like the telnet command is missing? Can anyone tell me how to do rlogin to another server? Thanks. Regards, Philip Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [newbie] Telnet command gone?
On Sunday 24 June 2001 12:02, Philip Loi wrote: Dear all, When I connected to my company network, it seems like the telnet command is missing? Can anyone tell me how to do rlogin to another server? Thanks. Regards, Philip Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie If you are saying that your system does not have the telnet command, then it may be that you have not installed it. If that is the case then open the mandrake software manager and search for telnet and install the rpm. If it is your company network that is not responding, then it may be that the telnet daemon on that newtwork is not installed/configured. The telnet rules in the hosts files and or inetd.conf may not allow connections. It may be that there is a firewall on the remote system which is dis-allowing telnet sessions. Dave.
RE: [newbie] Telnet command gone?
Philip, As with Dave I'm unsure if you mean that you are unable to use telnet on your PC (command missing) or you are trying to remote login to your company's server and getting refused. Have you been able to remote login before? If you are unable to telnet in or into your company network it is most likely that telnet has been disabled. Telnet is a pretty big security risk. All your info is going back and forth unencrypted. I haven't used it in a few years. If the telnet command is missing from your machine then yes, install from the rpm. But I would instead use ssh. Your mandrake distro should have in one of the disks as an rpm or I'm sure that it's available from their ftp site (or mirrors). If that fails go to www.openssh.com. Good luck and hope this helps. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DStevenson Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 5:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Telnet command gone? On Sunday 24 June 2001 12:02, Philip Loi wrote: Dear all, When I connected to my company network, it seems like the telnet command is missing? Can anyone tell me how to do rlogin to another server? Thanks. Regards, Philip Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie If you are saying that your system does not have the telnet command, then it may be that you have not installed it. If that is the case then open the mandrake software manager and search for telnet and install the rpm. If it is your company network that is not responding, then it may be that the telnet daemon on that newtwork is not installed/configured. The telnet rules in the hosts files and or inetd.conf may not allow connections. It may be that there is a firewall on the remote system which is dis-allowing telnet sessions. Dave.
[newbie] telnet
Title: telnet I have loaded mandrake 7.2 and it is great! But telnet and ftp do not work. I checked /etc/services and they are not commented out. I have a /etc/ hosts.allow and hosts.deny but they are both empty. What to do? Thanks in advance. Matthew Mills System Administrator DPI, Virginia Army National Guard Commercial (804) 298-6309 DSN 438-6309 FAX (804) 298-6364
Re: [newbie] telnet
First of all, telnet is really not the way to go for remote access--look at openssh.
However, in answer to your question, you'll need to check /etc/xinetd.conf, and check to see if in the /etc/xinetd.d directory you have a file called telnet and ftp. These files should look like:
service telnet
{
flags = REUSE
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= root
server = /usr/sbin/in.telnetd
log_on_failure += USERID
}
service ftp
{
socket_type = stream
protocol= tcp
wait= no
user= root
server = /usr/sbin/in.ftpd
server_args = -l -i -a
disable = no
}
If this file isn't there, the telnet ftp services will not run.
2. Make sure that the packages telnet-server and wu-ftpd are installed by doing an 'rpm -q telnet-server' and an 'rpm -q wu-ftpd'. If it isn't, mount the CD and install.
3. If this still doesn't solve the problem, restart xinetd (which you most likely will have to do since you may be editing / adding configuration files) by issuing a '/etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart'.
Michael
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At 09:10 AM 05/02/2001 -0400, Mills, Mathew wrote:
telnet
I have loaded mandrake 7.2 and it is great! But telnet and ftp do not work. I checked /etc/services and they are not commented out. I have a /etc/ hosts.allow and hosts.deny but they are both empty. What to do?
Thanks in advance.
Matthew Mills
System Administrator
DPI, Virginia Army National Guard
Commercial (804) 298-6309
DSN 438-6309
FAX (804) 298-6364
Re: [newbie] telnet
Title: telnet In a typical installation, telnet is not installed. Try this: rpm -qa | grep telnet for verify telnet is installed.
Re: [newbie] telnet
At 03:39 PM 05/05/2001 +0200, Cecilio wrote: telnet In a typical installation, telnet is not installed. Try this: rpm -qa | grep telnet for verify telnet is installed. Actually, one would need to look for telnet-server, not for the package telnet. There are 2 packages: 1. 'telnet' allows you to telnet to other boxes, but not into localhost. 2. 'telnet-server' configures the telnet service, which then allows you to telnet localhost. Michael
Re: [newbie] Telnet
Well you have a few options. 1) Remote Connections: You can find shareware, freeware, or purchase some sort of remote connection software. There are tons of them. Personally, I use SecureCRT. They make software that will allow you to SFTP from a Windows machine to a UNIX/Linux box, as well as it supports SSH very well. (I would suggest you move to SSH for various reasons.) There's QVT/Term, which was my first VT100 emulations software when I first started working at an ISP almost 4 years ago. It's very customizable, and I believe it is FREEWARE. There's also Hummingbird, which makes create software, and even comes with an X Serve app, but is very pricey. Last I heard it prices around $700. SecureCRT is about $50 I believe, check their website for information. www.vandyke.com/ But those are some options for connecting to other UNIX/Linux boxes. If you can't find QVT/Term, let me know. I may have it stored some place and can make it available via my webserver. 2) Remote Control: There are applications like VNC that will give you access to other OS systems. I have installed and tried VNC, and over all it's a good application. But I think it's more for somebody trying to control an Windows machine from a Linux box. You can control a Linux box from the Windows box, however it doesn't let you take over a current X session. (Or if it does, I'm not sure how to do it.) You are given TWM by default, but you can comment that out an add startkde to run KDE instead. However, it sounds like you just want a way to access a command line from a UNIX/Linux box. So applications like SecureCRT and QVT/Term are the way to go. If you would rather stick with telnet, then I think QVT/Term will be great for you, however I strongly suggest you visit www.openssh.com/ and start working with SSH. At which point SecureCRT would be a better application. Hope that helps! tdh T. Holmes Unixtechs.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Real Men use Vi." * Mcintosh, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010419 03:14]: | HI there | | Iv got Linux running on a HP Vectrea VL5 It works just fine | I am currently accessing this box via telnet. However the screensize of | telnet is limited and I'm looking for someother kind of | tools that lets me work from a windows machine. | Something like PCanywhere. | I dont want to use X as I'm a newbie and want to practice the command in | shell. | Anybody got any ideas?
Re: [newbie] Telnet
You can find shareware, freeware, or purchase some sort of remote connection software. There are tons of them. Personally, I use SecureCRT. They make software that will allow you to SFTP from a Windows machine to a UNIX/Linux box, as well as it supports SSH very well. (I would suggest you move to SSH for various reasons.) Ditto on the SSH recommendation. One wonders why telnet is still used, except on MS platforms where telnet.exe is touted as "new technology the gods invented" or some such :). Luckily, there is a *very nice* set of tools for Win32 platforms that do telnet/ssh, scp and sftp, called PuTTY. These are very small utilities that can fit easily on a floppy and are free to use. It doesn't do X, though. PuTTY can be found at: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ Luckily also, with Unix there is little need for hacks like PC Anywhere. T. Holmes David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
Re: [newbie] Telnet
Don;t know witch distro you running but on 7.2 there is VNC woks just like pcanywhere and somewhere you will find the windows executable to. file:/usr/share/doc/vnc-doc-3.3.3/index.html This will be the path in 7.2 for all the info you will need. Hope it helps Stefaans On Thursday 19 April 2001 09:14, Mcintosh, Duncan wrote: HI there Iv got Linux running on a HP Vectrea VL5 It works just fine I am currently accessing this box via telnet. However the screensize of telnet is limited and I'm looking for someother kind of tools that lets me work from a windows machine. Something like PCanywhere. I dont want to use X as I'm a newbie and want to practice the command in shell. Anybody got any ideas?
RE: [newbie] Telnet
I use a program called VNC, which allows a person to remotely control another machine (be it mac, windows, linux, os/2, what have you) from your machine. A window appears on your desk that shows the desktop of the remote computer you wish to control. All that needs to be done is to install the server software on the machine you wish to control, and install the client software on the machine you wish to control from. The programs are very small ( 1mb ). I use it here at work on my Linux machine to remotely control my windows laptop so I don't have to move back and forth to each one. Here's their website address: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ I believe it also works in the shell, but could be wrong. Hope that helps. Terry Sheltra --- "Munday Brian P SGT 507SIG LCC DMS SA(n)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ive used demo versions of KEA! X and it seemed to work well for me... also used KEA700 as a telnet client... was pretty user friendly http://www.attachmate.com brian Munday -Original Message- From: Mcintosh, Duncan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:14 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [newbie] Telnet HI there Iv got Linux running on a HP Vectrea VL5 It works just fine I am currently accessing this box via telnet. However the screensize of telnet is limited and I'm looking for someother kind of tools that lets me work from a windows machine. Something like PCanywhere. I dont want to use X as I'm a newbie and want to practice the command in shell. Anybody got any ideas? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
[newbie] Telnet
HI there Iv got Linux running on a HP Vectrea VL5 It works just fine I am currently accessing this box via telnet. However the screensize of telnet is limited and I'm looking for someother kind of tools that lets me work from a windows machine. Something like PCanywhere. I dont want to use X as I'm a newbie and want to practice the command in shell. Anybody got any ideas?
RE: [newbie] Telnet
ive used demo versions of KEA! X and it seemed to work well for me... also used KEA700 as a telnet client... was pretty user friendly http://www.attachmate.com brian Munday -Original Message- From: Mcintosh, Duncan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:14 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [newbie] Telnet HI there Iv got Linux running on a HP Vectrea VL5 It works just fine I am currently accessing this box via telnet. However the screensize of telnet is limited and I'm looking for someother kind of tools that lets me work from a windows machine. Something like PCanywhere. I dont want to use X as I'm a newbie and want to practice the command in shell. Anybody got any ideas?
[newbie] Telnet
HI there Iv got Linux running on a HP Vectrea VL5 It works just fine I am currently accessing this box via telnet. However the screensize of telnet is limited and I'm looking for someother kind of tools that lets me work from a windows machine. Something like PCanywhere. I dont want to use X as I'm a newbie and want to practice the command in shell. Anybody got any ideas?
RE: [newbie] Telnet vs SSH
Theres a little program called putty.exe that I use for SSH in windows and works greate for my small purposes. You can grab it at zappa.halden.net/pub allthough this box is sitting in Norway it should be a cuick download (148k) Andr = Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = you can shutdown with telnet log in as a user, su to root and then shutdown -r now - Original Message - From: "Tim Holmes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Telnet vs SSH The difference is in security for the most part. There are some other perks to SSH that telnet does not allow. For example you could shut down a machine with the command: ssh -l root hostname.dns.com shutdown -h now Once you execute that command, it will ask you for the RSA key passcode and then log into that machine, execute that command and then log out. The machine will then shut down. This can't be done in telnet. And if it can, it's not done easily, I've tried the command and it won't allow it or look like there's a simple way to do that. [timh@r2d2 timh]$ ssh yoda uptime timh@yoda's password: 11:39am up 51 days, 11:44, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 There's an example. There's also the security. With Telnet, you can't telnet in as root due to the fact that it sends a plain text passwd and it's not hard at all to catch those passwds. SSH sends a plain text key. The key has the passcode encrypted within that key. Windows comes with Telnet. And it's installed by default in Win98SE, and up. (If you actually disable networking, you install the telnet.exe to install the Windows networking.) Windows does now however have a SSH anything. I don't know if they ever will, and since they're recent statements about OpenSource, Linux and GPL, I doubt they will do something like that any time soon. There are plenty of applications you can buy or download as FREEware. Personally I like and use SecureCRT. Which can be coupled with a SFTP client. SecureCRT does suppor telnet. Hummingbird has a good suite for telnet, I believe it supports SSH, and it should connect to an X Server. However it's pricey. Last I heard it was like $700 or so. But there are other ways of getting software that will perform the task you need with out spending a dime, or with out spending an arm, a leg, and a knee cap! Hope that clears things up for you a little. tdh T. Holmes Unixtechs.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Real Men use Vi." * Nadin Merali [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010406 11:16]: | What is the difference and does every os have ssh? For example windows | has a telnet program. Will windows also have a ssh program? | | Thanks | | Nadin
Re: [newbie] Telnet vs SSH
Yeah, that I know. Once you have access to the machine and you have super-user rights you can log on as root then shut down the machine. But I was talking about how SSH allows you to log on, run the command and then leave. So you can perform tasks like: ssh -l root hostmachine shutdown -r now After you give your passwd, it will execute that command and then log you off. I don't *think* you can do that with telnet. First of all you can't telnet -l root hostname. The server won't allow you to log on as the super-user since telnet sends clear text passwd. But I don't think you could do a: telnet -l userID hostname uptime Then it logs on and issues that command to then log out. As I look at the telnet man pages, and attempt the above command, telnet thinks that anything following the hostname is a port. And there's no uptime port on a machine that I know of! lol [tdh@krypton ~]$telnet -l timh 152.160.8.96 uptime uptime: bad port number But there's nothing in there about being able to just log on, run a command and then leave. You have to log on, accept your envirnment, run your command, and then manually log off. As I mentioned with SSH you can run a command like I did above: [timh@r2d2 timh]$ ssh -l timh yoda uptime timh@yoda's password: 8:36am up 55 days, 8:41, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 As you can see the machine's been up for 55 days, I didn't want to reboot it! So that's what I was referring to. But you are correct. If you log onto the machine, then su to root, you can then issue the shutdown command. But as always, I give way too much information! :0) tdh T. Holmes Unixtechs.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Real Men use Vi." * Nadin Merali [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010409 21:29]: | you can shutdown with telnet | | log in as a user, su to root and then | shutdown -r now
Re: [newbie] Telnet vs SSH
you can shutdown with telnet log in as a user, su to root and then shutdown -r now - Original Message - From: "Tim Holmes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Telnet vs SSH The difference is in security for the most part. There are some other perks to SSH that telnet does not allow. For example you could shut down a machine with the command: ssh -l root hostname.dns.com shutdown -h now Once you execute that command, it will ask you for the RSA key passcode and then log into that machine, execute that command and then log out. The machine will then shut down. This can't be done in telnet. And if it can, it's not done easily, I've tried the command and it won't allow it or look like there's a simple way to do that. [timh@r2d2 timh]$ ssh yoda uptime timh@yoda's password: 11:39am up 51 days, 11:44, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 There's an example. There's also the security. With Telnet, you can't telnet in as root due to the fact that it sends a plain text passwd and it's not hard at all to catch those passwds. SSH sends a plain text key. The key has the passcode encrypted within that key. Windows comes with Telnet. And it's installed by default in Win98SE, and up. (If you actually disable networking, you install the telnet.exe to install the Windows networking.) Windows does now however have a SSH anything. I don't know if they ever will, and since they're recent statements about OpenSource, Linux and GPL, I doubt they will do something like that any time soon. There are plenty of applications you can buy or download as FREEware. Personally I like and use SecureCRT. Which can be coupled with a SFTP client. SecureCRT does suppor telnet. Hummingbird has a good suite for telnet, I believe it supports SSH, and it should connect to an X Server. However it's pricey. Last I heard it was like $700 or so. But there are other ways of getting software that will perform the task you need with out spending a dime, or with out spending an arm, a leg, and a knee cap! Hope that clears things up for you a little. tdh T. Holmes Unixtechs.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Real Men use Vi." * Nadin Merali [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010406 11:16]: | What is the difference and does every os have ssh? For example windows | has a telnet program. Will windows also have a ssh program? | | Thanks | | Nadin
[newbie] Telnet Service ...
*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* When I check the services, the Telnet service is set to "On Demand" .. How would I make it "Automatic", so the service is always running. Thanks Brett.
Re: [newbie] Telnet Service ...
Telnet runs under inetd(assuming it is turned on under inetd.conf). Inetd listens to the port that telnet requests come in on. If a request comes in it starts the telnet daemon. This is done to save system resources since inetd also listens for alot of other services. This saves on system resources. Rather than have a lot of services listening, you have one. Unless you have alot of telnet requests, this setup is just fine. --- Brett - CTC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* When I check the services, the Telnet service is set to "On Demand" .. How would I make it "Automatic", so the service is always running. Thanks Brett. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[newbie] Telnet vs SSH
What is the difference and does every os have ssh? For example windows has a telnet program. Will windows also have a ssh program? Thanks Nadin
Re: [newbie] Telnet vs SSH
ssh under windoz available in 3rd party program likes Secure CRT - Original Message - From: "Nadin Merali" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 10:16 PM Subject: [newbie] Telnet vs SSH What is the difference and does every os have ssh? For example windows has a telnet program. Will windows also have a ssh program? Thanks Nadin
Re: [newbie] Telnet vs SSH
you have to download for windows SecureCRT - Original Message - From: Nadin Merali [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: [newbie] Telnet vs SSH What is the difference and does every os have ssh? For example windows has a telnet program. Will windows also have a ssh program? Thanks Nadin
Re: [newbie] Telnet vs SSH
The difference is in security for the most part. There are some other perks to SSH that telnet does not allow. For example you could shut down a machine with the command: ssh -l root hostname.dns.com shutdown -h now Once you execute that command, it will ask you for the RSA key passcode and then log into that machine, execute that command and then log out. The machine will then shut down. This can't be done in telnet. And if it can, it's not done easily, I've tried the command and it won't allow it or look like there's a simple way to do that. [timh@r2d2 timh]$ ssh yoda uptime timh@yoda's password: 11:39am up 51 days, 11:44, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 There's an example. There's also the security. With Telnet, you can't telnet in as root due to the fact that it sends a plain text passwd and it's not hard at all to catch those passwds. SSH sends a plain text key. The key has the passcode encrypted within that key. Windows comes with Telnet. And it's installed by default in Win98SE, and up. (If you actually disable networking, you install the telnet.exe to install the Windows networking.) Windows does now however have a SSH anything. I don't know if they ever will, and since they're recent statements about OpenSource, Linux and GPL, I doubt they will do something like that any time soon. There are plenty of applications you can buy or download as FREEware. Personally I like and use SecureCRT. Which can be coupled with a SFTP client. SecureCRT does suppor telnet. Hummingbird has a good suite for telnet, I believe it supports SSH, and it should connect to an X Server. However it's pricey. Last I heard it was like $700 or so. But there are other ways of getting software that will perform the task you need with out spending a dime, or with out spending an arm, a leg, and a knee cap! Hope that clears things up for you a little. tdh T. Holmes Unixtechs.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Real Men use Vi." * Nadin Merali [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010406 11:16]: | What is the difference and does every os have ssh? For example windows | has a telnet program. Will windows also have a ssh program? | | Thanks | | Nadin
RE: [newbie] Telnet vs SSH
you can also download terra-term pro, and the ssh addin.. but the best ssh I have used in windoze is Zoc, they have a new version which is in beta, but gives you unlimited use, I have had it for a while and its great... full color the whole bit. Frank Hauptle / / _ ---/ / (_)__ __ __ --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / -//_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ Gshop Network Payment Solutions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nadin Merali Sent: Friday, 6 April 2001 11:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Telnet vs SSH What is the difference and does every os have ssh? For example windows has a telnet program. Will windows also have a ssh program? Thanks Nadin
Re: [newbie] Telnet vs SSH
Well, one major difference between the two is that telnet does not use encryption for data and ssh does... Andrew On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Nadin Merali wrote: What is the difference and does every os have ssh? For example windows has a telnet program. Will windows also have a ssh program? Thanks Nadin -- / / _ ---/ / (_)__ __ __ --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / -//_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
Re: [newbie] Telnet
Telnet don't have this utility. For this you need have a ftp connection. Julio Gutierrez escribi: does anyone know how I can copy files from a Win2k telnet server to a linux box? or is this possible? if anyone knows pls let me know Thanks in advance Julio -- dison Andrs Rivera Norea Ingeniero de Sistemas Departamento de Informtica Universidad de San Buenaventura Medelln - Colombia [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos
[newbie] Telnet
does anyone know how I can copy files from a Win2k telnet server to a linux box? or is this possible? if anyone knows pls let me know Thanks in advance Julio
Re: [newbie] Telnet
does anyone know how I can copy files from a Win2k telnet server to a linux box? or is this possible? if anyone knows pls let me know Well, if you don't have ftp available on the Windows box, the only way ~I~ know is to open the file with a text editor highlight paste into an editor on the Linux side page by page. But really, see if the dos ftp client is installed -- it probabaly is. Then you just set your Linux box up to allow access via ftp from that Windows box. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
[newbie] Telnet/IP MASQ
I dont know what I changed, but I can telnet into my Linux machine (Firewall) from my internal network, however I can do it from the internet. What is the ipchain command I need to allow me in again?, I also cant ftp, access the apache website in my linux server. And my other question is what is the difference in IPCHAINS for INPUT, OUTPUT and FORWARD, I am confused as to the meaning of these Thanks Nadin
Re: [newbie] Telnet/IP MASQ
At 10:31 12.03.2001 -0500, you wrote: I dont know what I changed, but I can telnet into my Linux machine (Firewall) from my internal network, however I can do it from the internet. well.if u are the only user on your internal network and no security concerns are against it u could allow the whole internal network (or just one machine) to access services on your server. i did this on my router to allow my internal network access the linux box : ipchains -A input -s 192.168.0.0/24 (my internal net) -d 0/0 -i eth0 ( the lan card for my internal net) -j ACCEPT What is the ipchain command I need to allow me in again?, I also cant ftp, access the apache website in my linux server. And my other question is what is the difference in IPCHAINS for INPUT, OUTPUT and FORWARD, I am confused as to the meaning of these well..as the name says, INPUT is the chain for all packets that are coming into your machine (regardless which interface, either from your lan or the internet) OUTPUT is the chain for all packets leaving your machine (to the internet or to your lan) and FORWARD is the chain for all packets which are just passing the server, for example if u have a masqed machine behind your linux server, all the packets coming from the masqed machine (destined for lets say the internet) will traverse the FORWARD chain. that is why u would have to have a masq target in your FORWARD chain (if u are doing masquerading ;) ) i recommend the ipchains howto at www.linuxdoc.org , it has a very good description of the different chains and how they are handled. HTH, --quay Thanks Nadin
Re: [newbie] Telnet/IP MASQ
crap I meant I can access myLinux machine through telnet, ftp and XDMCP from my internal network, however I cant do any of it from the internet. I want to be able to do it. I have pmfirewall installed, but I also have fbuilder installed, and it might be fbuilder however I have no idea how to get rid of it(fbuilder) and any scripts. (My linux machine is my connectionr(firewall) to the internet Thanks Nadin On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Quaylar wrote: At 10:31 12.03.2001 -0500, you wrote: I dont know what I changed, but I can telnet into my Linux machine (Firewall) from my internal network, however I can do it from the internet. well.if u are the only user on your internal network and no security concerns are against it u could allow the whole internal network (or just one machine) to access services on your server. i did this on my router to allow my internal network access the linux box : ipchains -A input -s 192.168.0.0/24 (my internal net) -d 0/0 -i eth0 ( the lan card for my internal net) -j ACCEPT What is the ipchain command I need to allow me in again?, I also cant ftp, access the apache website in my linux server. And my other question is what is the difference in IPCHAINS for INPUT, OUTPUT and FORWARD, I am confused as to the meaning of these well..as the name says, INPUT is the chain for all packets that are coming into your machine (regardless which interface, either from your lan or the internet) OUTPUT is the chain for all packets leaving your machine (to the internet or to your lan) and FORWARD is the chain for all packets which are just passing the server, for example if u have a masqed machine behind your linux server, all the packets coming from the masqed machine (destined for lets say the internet) will traverse the FORWARD chain. that is why u would have to have a masq target in your FORWARD chain (if u are doing masquerading ;) ) i recommend the ipchains howto at www.linuxdoc.org , it has a very good description of the different chains and how they are handled. HTH, --quay Thanks Nadin
Re: [newbie] Telnet/IP MASQ
At 13:57 12.03.2001 -0500, you wrote: crap I meant I can access myLinux machine through telnet, ftp and XDMCP from my internal network, however I cant do any of it from the internet. I want to be able to do it. I have pmfirewall installed, but I also have fbuilder installed, and it might be fbuilder however I have no idea how to get rid of it(fbuilder) and any scripts. (My linux machine is my connectionr(firewall) to the internet Thanks Nadin i once installed pmfirewall, i think its just a nice config utility for ipchains. i cant advise u how to set pmfirewall to allow ftp/telnet but i can tell u the direct way to do it: these commands will allow *anybody* to ftp/telnet into your machine from the internet : ipchains -A input -s 0/0 -d 0/0 -p tcp --dport 21 -j ACCEPT ipchains -A input -s 0/0 -d 0/0 -p tcp --dport 20 -j ACCEPT these 2 are for ftp (port 20 is ftp-data) ipchains -A input -s 0/0 -d 0/0 -p tcp --dport 23 -j ACCEPT and this is telnet, u can simply add these 2 commands to your /etc/rc.local, however i would recommend to read the ipchains howto and build a *custum* firewall to your needs, its important to really understand what u are doing when building a firewall. unfortunately i dont know what XDMCP is so i cant tell u the ipchains rule to allow it, maybe someone else can help here. greets, --quay
[newbie] telnet,ftp up working SLOW
I have a Linux box that has both telnet and wu-ftp servers running. THe problem I am having is when I telnet or ftp into them I get the connecting message. About 1-2 min later I get asked for a user name and password. Any idea's as to why this is so slow. I have tried it with both the standard ftpd that ships with Mandrake 7.2 and wu-ftp. I have also used inetd and xinetd but that doesn't make a difference... is there a config file somewhere I am overlooking? thanks in advance. Michael.
Re: [newbie] telnet,ftp up working SLOW
Thats because the hosts file in /etc doesnt have a match for your IP address or DNS isnt resolving your IP. Add your IP and a name to the /etc/hosts file and that wont happen. Scott - Original Message - From: "michael" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 5:39 AM Subject: [newbie] telnet,ftp up working SLOW I have a Linux box that has both telnet and wu-ftp servers running. THe problem I am having is when I telnet or ftp into them I get the connecting message. About 1-2 min later I get asked for a user name and password. Any idea's as to why this is so slow. I have tried it with both the standard ftpd that ships with Mandrake 7.2 and wu-ftp. I have also used inetd and xinetd but that doesn't make a difference... is there a config file somewhere I am overlooking? thanks in advance. Michael.
Re: [newbie] telnet and ftp access
run setup under root's account under system services look for inetd then activate next you restart your computer it should work. about talk same thing edit your inetd.conf, be sure the talk is uncomment. then type mesg=y hope this will help On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Adi W. Rahadi wrote: Thanks, it works, but after i start #inetd and remove in hosts.deny why inetd can't automatically start when my machine's up?, where i can add some options to start inetd when my machine start? one more question, before i start inetd, i can't use talk, it's allways refuse and now it goes [No connection yet] [Checking for invitation on caller's machine] without ringing on other party, everytime i talk user Please help me, thanks alot. Adi Allan Parreno wrote: check the /etc/inetd.conf if the ftp and telnet has a # and maybe check the /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Adi W. Rahadi wrote: -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - a l l a n t. p a r r e n o OneVirtual Internet - Iloilo -- Make the first effort to work toward greatness. You will learn a lot as you go, and perfect your approach. The important thing now is to get started and keep going.
[newbie] telnet and ftp access
Hello, I installed the 7.2 distribution and I like to connect directly to my pc by a ftp or telnet session. When I try this, I get a message telling me that the connection is refused. Has anyone the solution ? Thanks a lot Frdric Rooms
Re: [newbie] telnet and ftp access
Ok...first, did you install a server, workstation, or developer install when you installed Mandrake? Very likely the reason you can't connect to your box on with either of these programs is because the servers for these services are not installed on your system. If you didn't specify the servers to be installed, i.e. telnet-server, the 7.2 installation program doesn't install them by default. Since you can't connect to the FTP service either I'm willing to bet that you didn't do a server install either. Really all you have to do is install the FTP and the telnet-server packages and you should be able to connect to your machine using these services. However, you would be much better served to avoid using telnet all together and instead use ssh. it's much more secure, and just as easy to install and use. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Rooms [iso-8859-1] Frédéric wrote: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:01:08 +0100 From: "Rooms [iso-8859-1] Frédéric" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] telnet and ftp access Hello, I installed the 7.2 distribution and I like to connect directly to my pc by a ftp or telnet session. When I try this, I get a message telling me that the connection is refused. Has anyone the solution ? Thanks a lot Frédéric Rooms
Re: [newbie] telnet and ftp access
It happens to me, but more details: i've already choose server, and now all i can't telnet,ftp, and talk my mandrake even from localhost. #telnet 10.65.1.25 Trying 10.65.1.25... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused #ftp 10.65.1.25 ftp: connect: Connection refused please help! Adi W. Rahadi Mark Weaver wrote: Ok...first, did you install a server, workstation, or developer install when you installed Mandrake? Very likely the reason you can't connect to Hello, I installed the 7.2 distribution and I like to connect directly to my pc by a ftp or telnet session. When I try this, I get a message telling me that the connection is refused. Has anyone the solution ? Thanks a lot Frdric Rooms
Re: [newbie] Telnet server: /usr/sbin/in.telnetd: No such file !???
It is most likely that you will have to install it from the CD. This is because telnet was not installed by Mandrake's initial install. Reasons being...security, thus ssh should be used instead.. la dee da... la dee da. Original Message On 1/29/01, 8:49:51 AM, bretzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] Telnet server: /usr/sbin/in.telnetd: No such file ! ???: Hi, I am used to install-reinstall LM 7.2 ... I use iso files from ftp.free.fr site taken from the day it was released. As I say in subject , there is no in.telnetd file in my system. Thus I cannot telnet to my system! Where is that file ??? How can I install it ? It seems that the service is configured because when I telnet, my system close the connection ( obviously ) but the file is called ( from somewhere by inetd ? ) though... ...and that file isn't there.. I seeked for it in my whole filesystem.. No in.telnetd file anywhere. Please I need the steps to correct it. I really need to telnet to my system from outside! Why the heck there is no in.telnetd ? in 7.1 everythings was ok. And in 7.2 everything except telnet server are there... PLEASE HELP! - Urgent!
[newbie] Telnet Get up Service?
I can't to get up de Telnet services, anybody know how to get up this service. Which files or which parameters i must to modify. Thanks. _ Do You Yahoo!? Obtenga su direccin de correo-e gratis @yahoo.com en http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com
