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RE: [newbie-it] lancio di una shell dal desktot KDE
intendevo come collegarlo ad un icona del desktop grazie mago merlino Il mer, 27 set 2000, hai scritto: Guarda bene il "desktop" (scrivania) : ci dev'essere la rappresentazione di un piccolo monitor sul pannello di kde. Clicca li' e sim-sala-bim ecco una console.. ciao = Original Message from Giovanni Adinolfi [EMAIL PROTECTED] at 27/09/00 12.42 salve, vorrei lanciare una shell dal desktot, come posso farlo?? Giovanni Adinolfi
RE: [newbie-it] lancio di una shell dal desktot KDE
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: intendevo come collegarlo ad un icona del desktop grazie mago merlino Il mer, 27 set 2000, hai scritto: Guarda bene il "desktop" (scrivania) : ci dev'essere la rappresentazione di un piccolo monitor sul pannello di kde. Clicca li' e sim-sala-bim ecco una console.. ciao = Original Message from Giovanni Adinolfi [EMAIL PROTECTED] at 27/09/00 12.42 salve, vorrei lanciare una shell dal desktot, come posso farlo?? Giovanni Adinolfi Ciao, ecco il collemamento per lanciare la bash, copialo sul desktop (se non funziona ti spiego come crearlo). Bash.kdelnk
[newbie-it] problemi con il kernel
salve, ho dei problemi a compilare il kernel: nella dir usr/src/linux dò il comando make xconfig, e mi viene risposto: "no rule to make target 'xconfig'. stop. premetto che accedo da root e che non funziona neanche con make config o menuconfig. saluti Marco
Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
In a message dated 26-Sep-00 21:27:25 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So I buy a Ford. oh buy an engine that is impossible to work on and dies all the time sounds like WINDOWS!!! ford = windows of the automobile industry
[newbie] Questions triggered by glibconfig.h not found
Not sure if this question belongs here or in [expert], so I'll start here since I've just subscribed to both. I am a fairly recent Mandrake 7.1 user. After purchasing "GTK+ / Gnome Applications Development" I needed to install the various support libraries. I used RPMDrake and installed a bunch of developer libs that came on the MD 7.1 CDs. I tried compiling a simple "hello world" program with the addition of the line #include gnome.h This was done to check header dependencies. I got an error along the lines of "glibconfig.h not found". I know that glibconfig.h exists at the path /usr/lib/glib/include/glibconfig.h. glibconfig.h is referenced in various GTK headers as #include glibconfig.h This would lead me to believe that any GTK app compiles will have to be done with -I options pointing to "/usr/lib/glib/include" (and a lot o others as well). So I assume that I was quite naive to try the compile with the simple command cc foo.c The questions: (1) Is it normal practice to just use a simple "#include name.h" statement in .C and .H files and then use -I options for the root paths? That seems to be the case. (2) Would it be considered good style to globally define include options sets at the shell level so that you can have them quickly in any simple makefile or do most people define over and over again in each makefile. I realize that doing the former will tie the makefile to a particular user environment, but I am curious. Cheers and thanks, -rick
[newbie] gaim config
I just installed 7.1, everything seems to be working fine, except when I tried to log on to gaim I was told that it was "not configured" now what do I do? Thanks, Frank
Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, you wrote: Has any one heard? The Microsoft Antitrust Case is going to a lower court. And if George W. Bush has his way. Mr. Bill will be able add - force people to accept what comes with Windows? It's a sad day. Just my $0.02 Roman -- Pardon my French, but who gives a s**t. Let Microcrap do what they want. Let's face it, they have had ZERO innovation since the release of Windoze 95. Each "upgrade" is basically cosmetic with a few OEM packages thrown in for added "benefits". Windoze ME is worthless and not necessary. Let them act how they want, they will get theirs in the end. Once other OS's (Linux, the new OS X) start to take off in the desktop market, they will be forced to reactbut remember, everything Microsoft has they bought or stole from somebody...let's see 'em try to buy Linux. I think Gates might have to look up Open-source in a dictionary. Jay "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with gladness, that stays forever after." "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend." http://www.mrsnooky.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: Isnt OSX a MAC versions of Operating System. I thought it's not related to Linux. Of course there are some Linux distributions for the Mac. But what I've heard Apple is producing the next generation of O/S entitled OSX. Rob On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, you wrote: Has any one heard? The Microsoft Antitrust Case is going to a lower court. And if George W. Bush has his way. Mr. Bill will be able add - force people to accept what comes with Windows? It's a sad day. Just my $0.02 Roman -- Pardon my French, but who gives a s**t. Let Microcrap do what they want. Let's face it, they have had ZERO innovation since the release of Windoze 95. Each "upgrade" is basically cosmetic with a few OEM packages thrown in for added "benefits". Windoze ME is worthless and not necessary. Let them act how they want, they will get theirs in the end. Once other OS's (Linux, the new OS X) start to take off in the desktop market, they will be forced to reactbut rremember, everything Microsoft has they bought or stole from somebody...let's see 'em try to buy Linux. I think Gates might have to look up Open-source in a dictionary. Jay "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with gladness, that stays forever after." "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend." http://www.mrsnooky.com
Re: [newbie] gaim config
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: I just installed 7.1, everything seems to be working fine, except when I tried to log on to gaim I was told that it was "not configured" now what do I do? Thanks, Frank -- Get the latest release. I believe it to be at http://www.marko.net or something like that. Maybe Cnet has it. Jay "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with gladness, that stays forever after." "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend." http://www.mrsnooky.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: Isnt OSX a MAC versions of Operating System. I thought it's not related to Linux. Of course there are some Linux distributions for the Mac. But what I've heard Apple is producing the next generation of O/S entitled OSX. -- It is Mac. But OS X is based on Unix. The buzz is that it is very stable and easy to use. If Mac makes the OS X Intel compatible, watch out! So, although it is not Linux, OS X is a perceived threat to Windoze. Jay "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with gladness, that stays forever after." "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend." http://www.mrsnooky.com
[Re: Re: [newbie] 7.1 Post-install problem - re-post! ]
Mark Thanks for this. try reinstalling and this time don't do the HDD optimization. I don't think with a drive that big and a system as efficient as linux that you're going to really need to worry about optimizing, and I suspect that there is a small , but apparently noticable enough hardware conflict going on there. I also suspect that it will all evaporate as soon as you install without optimizing. I don't actually remember 'choosing' HDD optimisation! I'll have to go do it again... paying more attention this time :-). I don't think I'll get a chance to try it before Saturday but I'll let you know the result. Thanks again. Lance
Re: [newbie] Messages are repeating themselves...
Ken, Thank you very much. That little recipe got slammed into the .procmailrc file REAL quick. Awesome! thanks again, -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Ken Wahl wrote: On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else noticed that the messages are repeating themselves on the list? A few but not too many, maybe 4-5/day. If they are identical messages with the same message id and you are using procmail, you can weed them out by adding the following as the first recipe in your .procmailrc :0 Wh: msgid.lock | formail -D 8192 msgid.cache This will create a message id cache file in your mail directory that is checked against before any mail is delivered to your inbox(es). Since all emails have a unique message id unless they are true duplicates or carbon copies then they will only make it through if the message id is not already in the cache file. If the message id matches one found in the cache then the message is discarded. I've been using it for the past couple of weeks and it works well, especially at removing list replies that are cc'd to the original author. The full documentation for the above is listed in man procmailex. HTH
Re: [newbie] OpenGL
OpenGL, is the "Mesa" rpms. You will need to make sure you install the Mesa-devel rpm for the compile to work. They should be on the CD. -- Original Message -- From: KompuKit [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:41:22 -0400 I have a Pentium 233 MMX 64 mg ram a S3 video card Rev 1.0 drivers (in windows) I'm trying to install a game: Search and Rescue for Linux helicopter game that requires OpenGL... it won't compile...unless it's on my system... I have Mandrake 7.02...does this come on the CD? if so, what's the RPM called... -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit=
[newbie] 56K MDC modem not working...
Dear all, Please help - I am only one step away from configuring Linux (Mandrake 7.1) and removing Windows from my machine FOREVER :) At present I can't get Linux to recognise my modem - I am pretty sure that it is not a Winmodem (there isn't anything anywhere that says it is a Winmodem #8211; the words "HSP, HCF, or DSP" do not appear at all). It is a 56K Main-Daughter-Card clone, not a PCMCIA card, but built on the mother board. If I were to install the drivers under Windows the Modem will come up under: '? Other Devices' - '? PCI Card' in the Device Manager and would run in COM3 (ttsy2). Yes - it was not listed under #8216;modems#8217; in Windows, but under '? Other Devices'. Although when the Windows driver was installed it magically changed to a modem!?! I didn't try on configure it while installing Linux. I have tried kppp since installation and then tried to communicate with it, but it says that the modem is busy? So I presume it is there #8211; just doing something #8211; maybe a lock file somewhere? This is all the information that I can obtain from the modem: MODEM 56K MDC COM 3 IRQ 5 Address D800 Manufacturer - Compact Flash Technology The laptop is a Chicony MP-995 machine. What I can get from the manual is: Intel BGA-1 on board uPGA-1 socket for Celeron Intel 440MX Any guesses / answers? Should I have configured it whilst installation - or does this not matter? Many thanks in advance, Andy -- Andy Weller email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com
Re: [newbie] 7.1 Post-install problem - re-post!
I would look in my /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit file and check for references to hdparm commands, when you find these, you can then comment them out if you like or change them to your liking. There should be some info on this (the hdparm command and its parameters) on http://www.mandrakeuser.org just do a search for hdparm or visit: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/hardware/hide2.html On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Patti Wavinak wrote: If I recall correctly when you install it says that it is NOT a good idea to set the hard drive optimisation function. I do not know if you can "undo" that or if you need to reinstall and not use that function. I don't know if this helps but at least I answered giggle Patti - Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/26/00, 3:47:31 PM, Lance Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] 7.1 Post-install problem - re-post!: Hi There I posted the message below to the list on Saturday. So far, I've had only one response which, unfortunatly, didn't take me forward in any meaningful way (thanks anyway Paul). I can't believe no one else knows the answer. Can sombody help me out... please? Lance __ Hi Guys Finally got 7.1 installed on my new system - Athlon 700, 128MB, 13.6G HDD - Linux only, no Windows. It all seemed to be going smoothly until it came to the first re-boot. It reached the point where it says; Starting hard drive optimisation for hda [OK] then it goes no further. I left it in that state for over an hour and it never moved. I could hear what sounds like disk accessing at round one minute intervals but don't see any activity on the HDD light to confirm this. Any ideas where I go from here? How do I go about tracking down what the problem might be? I created a boot disk during the install and, I suppose, I could use this to start the system. But I have absolutely no Idea what I'm looking for! One more thing. This message is part of the Interactive Startup (or Setup - not sure). Is this anything like the setup on Windows where you can step through the entries in autoexec.bat and config.sys at boot-up, choosing which drivers etc are loaded? If so, how do I do it under Linux? Is there a troubleshooting HOWTO that covers this sort of thing? All help gratefully received. Regards Lance Dow
[newbie] Netscape browser...
Hi, can anybody tell me how i can get colour on the netscape browsers interface, it's grey and the pic's on the buttons are black...if their's supposed to be colour that is. Any help would be great, thank's in advance.. Robert. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
No kidding thats why Billyboy hates linux, he can't touch it haha! On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: Not really...He can't do a thing to the beautiful OS I'm running on my box that will likely still be running WITHOUT being rebooted once till they finally get done doodling around in court! I don't look for that to happen for another 5-10 years at least. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Romanator wrote: Has any one heard? The Microsoft Antitrust Case is going to a lower court. And if George W. Bush has his way. Mr. Bill will be able add - force people to accept what comes with Windows? It's a sad day. Just my $0.02 Roman
Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
Robin Regennitter wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: Isnt OSX a MAC versions of Operating System. I thought it's not related to Linux. Of course there are some Linux distributions for the Mac. But what I've heard Apple is producing the next generation of O/S entitled OSX. Rob AFAIK, Mac OS-X (and thats "ten", BTW), is the classic, slick Mac GUI sitting on top of a version of BSD Unix. My little brother just paid $30 for a beta version that he is going to install on his iBook. (go figure-paying that for a beta! smile) I watched a quicktime movie of this new OS in action, and it *looks* good, but really, what can you tell from watching a demo? Give me hands on, everytime. ;) -- /\ DarkLord \/
[newbie] ipchains and ssh
Hello, My first post on the newbie list... I have been struggling for some time to get SSH to work on my Linux box (2.2.13-4mdk : Mandrake 6.1). I believe I finally have it up and running, because I am able to create a SSH connection from/to the machine itself. What I can't seem to manage is to make a SSH connection from an external machine (I work in DC, Linux box is at home in OH). I am trying using FiSSH and I repeatedly get "Failed to Connect to Host." Now, I do have a firewall up, and it is a pretty basic one in order to provide IP-Masquerading (which works!), so I thought maybe my problem was simply that the firewall wasn't letting the connection to port 22. So, after extensive research I felt that what I needed to add was a couple rules to allow the connection in, and I tried to add something like this (and other similar variations): ipchains -A input -p tcp -s xxx.xxx.com -d yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy 22 -j ACCEPT ipchains -A output -p tcp -d xxx.xxx.com -d yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy 22 -j ACCEPT But it isn't working - and I think my problem lies with xxx.xxx.com and yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy (the source and destination addresses). 1. I don't exactly know the source IP address for where I'm at, so is it acceptable to use xxx.xxx.com instead? 2. I have a variable IP - so how the heck do I populate yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy with my current IP address if I don't even know it? For #2 - I've seen some people use $IPADDR which is all well and good, but I don't know how to populate that variable without simply hardcoding and that just presents the same problem again. In addition, I typed in the ipchains commands (both above) at the command prompt and used what my IP address is currently and I still couldn't connect to it remotely via SSH.So now my entire solution has been undermined. Any suggestions? Thanks, George
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:42:33 -0500, Vic said: oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? With an attitude like that you will find that "help' is hard to come by around here. If you had spent more than a few seconds looking around you might have found this: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.1/QuickLook/grub. php3 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com -- David Boles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
Pardon my heresy, but I don't think Linux will make it as a viable alternative desktop for the masses (no offense intended) for the following reasons: 1) the Linux community is too decentralized. 2) there are no such things as standards, even defacto standards - Cut Paste is an example - there is not even any social pressure for developers to adhere to a standard. 3) window managers make things too different - a nightmare for the corporate world, even though you're running Mandrake (or Debian, or whatever) your window manager makes the environment foreign to anyone that doesn't run that window manager. 4) Linux developers work for free and are not subject to the same QA that Apple is subject to. 5) Linux developers work for free; consequently their incentives to create and contribute are different 6) Linux users in general would probably balk if they had to actually pay for software 7) the average computer user is *required* to make *a lot* of effort understanding how to "operate" the machine. The complexity is not sufficiently hidden from them when needed 8) there is a certain amount of elitism within the Linux community in general which distains the stereotypical "aol/microsoft" user (no offense, just an observation) 9) Linux is inherently a programmers/developers environment and *specifically* geared to those kinds of folks 10) talk like what I'm doing here is not well received by the Linux community in general Again, don't get me wrong I really, really like Linux ( window managers) and I would really like to see it be a viable alternative desktop. But from my personal observations (painful) personal experience and knowing the expectations abilities of my friends family, it's not there yet. I don't expect it to be there in the next 5 to 10 years (even considering internet time). I think there will need to be a broad change in perception among the Linux folks about the "computing world for average folks" before that will happen. Unfortunately, I think Linux will have to be backwardly compatible with MAC and Windows - whatever that means. ps: I've just installed HelixGnome (www.helixgnome.com) and it looks really good though I haven't had a chance to use it yet! -Original Message- From: Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, you wrote: -- Pardon my French, but who gives a s**t. Let Microcrap do what they want. Let's face it, they have had ZERO innovation since the release of Windoze 95. Each "upgrade" is basically cosmetic with a few OEM packages thrown in for added "benefits". Windoze ME is worthless and not necessary. Let them act how they want, they will get theirs in the end. Once other OS's (Linux, the new OS X) start to take off in the desktop market, they will be forced to reactbut remember, everything Microsoft has they bought or stole from somebody...let's see 'em try to buy Linux. I think Gates might have to look up Open-source in a dictionary. Jay "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with gladness, that stays forever after." "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend." http://www.mrsnooky.com
RE: [newbie] Installing 7.1 hangs at formatting boot partition
Thanks to everybody for their responses... For the record what I had to do was use 7.0 installation CD to setup how I wanted the drive partitioned then exited the installation after that step and rebooted with the 7.1 CD and everything worked from there. I noticed that using auto-allocate on 7.1 it put the swap partition at the front of the disk, however 7.0 put the swap in the middle with the /boot partion in the front. This might have been the problem as I think about it more. Does the /boot parition have to be located at the first physical part of the drive? -Original Message- From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 9:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing 7.1 hangs at formatting boot partition I had the same problem when I tried to do an upgrade. I solved the problem by installing on a second hard drive, going to diskdrake on the second hd, formatting the first hd as one partition. Once that was done I went back to the first hd and did a clean install. Did not use the hd optimizations... repeat, did not use the optimizations. Every thing went just hunky dory. This is one solution if you have the space on a second hd. Otherwise, I am at a loss to help. Dennis -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842
Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
Hey Y'all, Before I got into using Linux I used various versions of the MAC O/S and I always found it to be somewhat unstable, the one thing I did like about it was the fact that it was not nearly as dumbed down as Windows, it is easy to use, but you still need to have some kind of understanding as to what the machine is doing. Hopefully when OS/X gets all the way (it is available in server packages) out they will somehow port it to run on Intel based processor machines, and hopefully the stability problems will be corrected, without having to compromise the ease of use. If these things happen, and the work on developing a more consumer friendly Linux product continues, Microsoft could be in for quite a shock. Of course bad news for Bill is good news for the rest of us. I'll leave the Presidential debate open for others to discuss as I think that is too far off topic for this list, but I will ask you this: Do you want a President who, up until this point is most famous for approving the execution of 2 women, and for picking his nose on national television? I may have to move to Canada next year. Fritz - Original Message - From: Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: Isnt OSX a MAC versions of Operating System. I thought it's not related to Linux. Of course there are some Linux distributions for the Mac. But what I've heard Apple is producing the next generation of O/S entitled OSX. -- It is Mac. But OS X is based on Unix. The buzz is that it is very stable and easy to use. If Mac makes the OS X Intel compatible, watch out! So, although it is not Linux, OS X is a perceived threat to Windoze. Jay "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with gladness, that stays forever after." "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend." http://www.mrsnooky.com
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
I don't have any screen shots I can forward, but you could look at 'info grub' which is the manual (I'm still trying to figure out how to print it out. It's stuffed into a couple *.bz2 files.) Another excellent resource is - http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-faq.html I hope these help. Barry :-) On Wed, 27 September 2000, Vic wrote: oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com _ The freedom to choose your own Internet access price. Surfree.com - got to be free http://www.surfree.com
Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
An intel port of OS-X is never going to happen. The whole Apple vision depends on a consistent box to go with the OS -- in this case, a box that only apple makes. -- jon From: "F. E. Schaper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:33:18 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush Hey Y'all, Before I got into using Linux I used various versions of the MAC O/S and I always found it to be somewhat unstable, the one thing I did like about it was the fact that it was not nearly as dumbed down as Windows, it is easy to use, but you still need to have some kind of understanding as to what the machine is doing. Hopefully when OS/X gets all the way (it is available in server packages) out they will somehow port it to run on Intel based processor machines, and hopefully the stability problems will be corrected, without having to compromise the ease of use. If these things happen, and the work on developing a more consumer friendly Linux product continues, Microsoft could be in for quite a shock. Of course bad news for Bill is good news for the rest of us. I'll leave the Presidential debate open for others to discuss as I think that is too far off topic for this list, but I will ask you this: Do you want a President who, up until this point is most famous for approving the execution of 2 women, and for picking his nose on national television? I may have to move to Canada next year. Fritz - Original Message - From: Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: Isnt OSX a MAC versions of Operating System. I thought it's not related to Linux. Of course there are some Linux distributions for the Mac. But what I've heard Apple is producing the next generation of O/S entitled OSX. -- It is Mac. But OS X is based on Unix. The buzz is that it is very stable and easy to use. If Mac makes the OS X Intel compatible, watch out! So, although it is not Linux, OS X is a perceived threat to Windoze. Jay "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with gladness, that stays forever after." "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend." http://www.mrsnooky.com
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
That is not very nice. The guy was just trying to help and you bit off his head. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub? oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com
Re: [newbie] ipchains and ssh
At 08:11 AM 9/27/00 -0500, you wrote: Hello, My first post on the newbie list... I have been struggling for some time to get SSH to work on my Linux box (2.2.13-4mdk : Mandrake 6.1). I believe I finally have it up and running, because I am able to create a SSH connection from/to the machine itself. What I can't seem to manage is to make a SSH connection from an external machine (I work in DC, Linux box is at home in OH). I am trying using FiSSH and I repeatedly get "Failed to Connect to Host." Now, I do have a firewall up, and it is a pretty basic one in order to provide IP-Masquerading (which works!), so I thought maybe my problem was simply that the firewall wasn't letting the connection to port 22. So, after extensive research I felt that what I needed to add was a couple rules to allow the connection in, and I tried to add something like this (and other similar variations): ipchains -A input -p tcp -s xxx.xxx.com -d yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy 22 -j ACCEPT ipchains -A output -p tcp -d xxx.xxx.com -d yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy 22 -j ACCEPT But it isn't working - and I think my problem lies with xxx.xxx.com and yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy (the source and destination addresses). 1. I don't exactly know the source IP address for where I'm at, so is it acceptable to use xxx.xxx.com instead? 2. I have a variable IP - so how the heck do I populate yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy with my current IP address if I don't even know it? For #2 - I've seen some people use $IPADDR which is all well and good, but I don't know how to populate that variable without simply hardcoding and that just presents the same problem again. In addition, I typed in the ipchains commands (both above) at the command prompt and used what my IP address is currently and I still couldn't connect to it remotely via SSH.So now my entire solution has been undermined. Any suggestions? Thanks, George I have the exact same setup as you do (almost) and ssh works from anywhere. I just did this ipchains -A input -p tcp -d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 22 -j ACCEPT If you are really concerned about the source address, try using the ip address instead of the hostname/DNS name, because it may resolve to something unexpected. As you can see, in my example, I wasn't concerned with the source address. Only the destination address and port number. Dan
Re: [[newbie] Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Beta 3 - Hangs on shutdown]
With this beta I've been getting a garbled screen and it would seem like it's frozen but it's still going and it actually make it to shutdown ... Starz "Adam" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Attachment: MIME Type: multipart/alternative - I use GDM for my login manager, when I goto reboot after logging out it just hangs (doesn't even un-mount or kill any processes of any sort) Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Well he flames people can't I flame him too? BTW thanks for the url On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, David Boles wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:42:33 -0500, Vic said: oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? With an attitude like that you will find that "help' is hard to come by around here. If you had spent more than a few seconds looking around you might have found this: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.1/QuickLook/grub. php3 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com -- David Boles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
I tried that url, is the server down? On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, David Boles wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:42:33 -0500, Vic said: oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? With an attitude like that you will find that "help' is hard to come by around here. If you had spent more than a few seconds looking around you might have found this: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.1/QuickLook/grub. php3 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com -- David Boles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Many many many thanks! Excellent! On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have any screen shots I can forward, but you could look at 'info grub' which is the manual (I'm still trying to figure out how to print it out. It's stuffed into a couple *.bz2 files.) Another excellent resource is - http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-faq.html I hope these help. Barry :-) On Wed, 27 September 2000, Vic wrote: oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com _ The freedom to choose your own Internet access price. Surfree.com - got to be free http://www.surfree.com
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Ok wait a minute, I got it, must have been a network glitch down the pipe, its back up. Thanks On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, David Boles wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:42:33 -0500, Vic said: oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? With an attitude like that you will find that "help' is hard to come by around here. If you had spent more than a few seconds looking around you might have found this: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.1/QuickLook/grub. php3 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com -- David Boles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Grub isn't anything fancy to look at (though more than lilo). A basic blue box w/ a list of the OS's/kernels you can load. As it runs before the OS screenshots are troublesome to get (not impossible). I think it's a little nicer since you don't have to type in kernel names and it's easier for non-geeks to grok. *^*^*^* Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? -- Real Genius On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Jeff Malka wrote: That is not very nice. The guy was just trying to help and you bit off his head. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub? oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Sorry thought he was yellin at me like he did my room mate, I know Charley used my computer before without asking me, and I told him about it, changed my password and created him an account. I asked the last flame he did to re direct it to my room mate but he never did On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Jeff Malka wrote: That is not very nice. The guy was just trying to help and you bit off his head. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub? oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com
Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
"F. E. Schaper" wrote: I'll leave the Presidential debate open for others to discuss as I think that is too far off topic for this list, but I will ask you this: Do you want a President who, up until this point is most famous for approving the execution of 2 women, and for picking his nose on national television? I may have to move to Canada next year. I agree that this is better left somewhere else...but I can't help it...I'll never vote for a potential president whose agenda includes destroying the 2nd amendment in order to achieve the (dubious) honor of removing firearms from Americans! I say again...never. -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: yeah I hope so, Microcrap needs to be wipe out. Open Source Rules!! LOL On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: Isnt OSX a MAC versions of Operating System. I thought it's not related to Linux. Of course there are some Linux distributions for the Mac. But what I've heard Apple is producing the next generation of O/S entitled OSX. -- It is Mac. But OS X is based on Unix. The buzz is that it is very stable and easy to use. If Mac makes the OS X Intel compatible, watch out! So, although it is not Linux, OS X is a perceived threat to Windoze. Jay "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with gladness, that stays forever after." "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend." http://www.mrsnooky.com
Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
I think I will just stay in UK, we may Blair, and have no petrol (Got it at the monent, just waiting for november when they are going to start the blockades again) but its a nice country. "F. E. Schaper" wrote: Hey Y'all, Before I got into using Linux I used various versions of the MAC O/S and I always found it to be somewhat unstable, the one thing I did like about it was the fact that it was not nearly as dumbed down as Windows, it is easy to use, but you still need to have some kind of understanding as to what the machine is doing. Hopefully when OS/X gets all the way (it is available in server packages) out they will somehow port it to run on Intel based processor machines, and hopefully the stability problems will be corrected, without having to compromise the ease of use. If these things happen, and the work on developing a more consumer friendly Linux product continues, Microsoft could be in for quite a shock. Of course bad news for Bill is good news for the rest of us. I'll leave the Presidential debate open for others to discuss as I think that is too far off topic for this list, but I will ask you this: Do you want a President who, up until this point is most famous for approving the execution of 2 women, and for picking his nose on national television? I may have to move to Canada next year. Fritz - Original Message - From: Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: Isnt OSX a MAC versions of Operating System. I thought it's not related to Linux. Of course there are some Linux distributions for the Mac. But what I've heard Apple is producing the next generation of O/S entitled OSX. -- It is Mac. But OS X is based on Unix. The buzz is that it is very stable and easy to use. If Mac makes the OS X Intel compatible, watch out! So, although it is not Linux, OS X is a perceived threat to Windoze. Jay "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with gladness, that stays forever after." "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend." http://www.mrsnooky.com
Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: the only reason why Mac is different than Intel is the fact they run completely different processors. Mac is PPC Intel is Pentium. An intel port of OS-X is never going to happen. The whole Apple vision depends on a consistent box to go with the OS -- in this case, a box that only apple makes. -- jon From: "F. E. Schaper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:33:18 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush Hey Y'all, Before I got into using Linux I used various versions of the MAC O/S and I always found it to be somewhat unstable, the one thing I did like about it was the fact that it was not nearly as dumbed down as Windows, it is easy to use, but you still need to have some kind of understanding as to what the machine is doing. Hopefully when OS/X gets all the way (it is available in server packages) out they will somehow port it to run on Intel based processor machines, and hopefully the stability problems will be corrected, without having to compromise the ease of use. If these things happen, and the work on developing a more consumer friendly Linux product continues, Microsoft could be in for quite a shock. Of course bad news for Bill is good news for the rest of us. I'll leave the Presidential debate open for others to discuss as I think that is too far off topic for this list, but I will ask you this: Do you want a President who, up until this point is most famous for approving the execution of 2 women, and for picking his nose on national television? I may have to move to Canada next year. Fritz - Original Message - From: Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: Isnt OSX a MAC versions of Operating System. I thought it's not related to Linux. Of course there are some Linux distributions for the Mac. But what I've heard Apple is producing the next generation of O/S entitled OSX. -- It is Mac. But OS X is based on Unix. The buzz is that it is very stable and easy to use. If Mac makes the OS X Intel compatible, watch out! So, although it is not Linux, OS X is a perceived threat to Windoze. Jay "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with gladness, that stays forever after." "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend." http://www.mrsnooky.com
RE: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: I think you'll be surprise. Pardon my heresy, but I don't think Linux will make it as a viable alternative desktop for the masses (no offense intended) for the following reasons: 1) the Linux community is too decentralized. 2) there are no such things as standards, even defacto standards - Cut Paste is an example - there is not even any social pressure for developers to adhere to a standard. 3) window managers make things too different - a nightmare for the corporate world, even though you're running Mandrake (or Debian, or whatever) your window manager makes the environment foreign to anyone that doesn't run that window manager. 4) Linux developers work for free and are not subject to the same QA that Apple is subject to. 5) Linux developers work for free; consequently their incentives to create and contribute are different 6) Linux users in general would probably balk if they had to actually pay for software 7) the average computer user is *required* to make *a lot* of effort understanding how to "operate" the machine. The complexity is not sufficiently hidden from them when needed 8) there is a certain amount of elitism within the Linux community in general which distains the stereotypical "aol/microsoft" user (no offense, just an observation) 9) Linux is inherently a programmers/developers environment and *specifically* geared to those kinds of folks 10) talk like what I'm doing here is not well received by the Linux community in general Again, don't get me wrong I really, really like Linux ( window managers) and I would really like to see it be a viable alternative desktop. But from my personal observations (painful) personal experience and knowing the expectations abilities of my friends family, it's not there yet. I don't expect it to be there in the next 5 to 10 years (even considering internet time). I think there will need to be a broad change in perception among the Linux folks about the "computing world for average folks" before that will happen. Unfortunately, I think Linux will have to be backwardly compatible with MAC and Windows - whatever that means. ps: I've just installed HelixGnome (www.helixgnome.com) and it looks really good though I haven't had a chance to use it yet! -Original Message- From: Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, you wrote: -- Pardon my French, but who gives a s**t. Let Microcrap do what they want. Let's face it, they have had ZERO innovation since the release of Windoze 95. Each "upgrade" is basically cosmetic with a few OEM packages thrown in for added "benefits". Windoze ME is worthless and not necessary. Let them act how they want, they will get theirs in the end. Once other OS's (Linux, the new OS X) start to take off in the desktop market, they will be forced to reactbut remember, everything Microsoft has they bought or stole from somebody...let's see 'em try to buy Linux. I think Gates might have to look up Open-source in a dictionary. Jay "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with gladness, that stays forever after." "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend." http://www.mrsnooky.com
Re: [newbie] Netscape browser...
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: Hi, can anybody tell me how i can get colour on the netscape browsers interface, it's grey and the pic's on the buttons are black...if their's supposed to be colour that is. Any help would be great, thank's in advance.. Netscape icons do not show colour in 24bpp resolutionit works fine at 32 and 16 bpp, edit XF86Config and enjoyfurther, look in here..www.photo.net/users/sp/netscape1.html ZZZ
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Oh ok, I wonder, is there a way I can create a "rescue" disc in case I want to replace grub with Lilo in case it does not co-operate? I don't think I have grub installed, as it is just some files in /boot/grub and no install.sh file. Do I need to install some other software to activate it? Well, off to snoop around in the faq about grub, although I don't think I caught anything about how to specify a runlevel, maybe I need to snoop more or something. many thanks On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Michael wrote: Grub isn't anything fancy to look at (though more than lilo). A basic blue box w/ a list of the OS's/kernels you can load. As it runs before the OS screenshots are troublesome to get (not impossible). I think it's a little nicer since you don't have to type in kernel names and it's easier for non-geeks to grok. *^*^*^* Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? -- Real Genius On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Jeff Malka wrote:
Re: [newbie] mail-client software
I was just at the site and the links don't work to download the software. Am I missing something here? Eric Subject: Re: [newbie] mail-client software Date: Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 05:21:11PM +0100 Time to reply! Quoting Paul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: Jay, Where at Tucows is Mahogony? I was looking all over and couldn't find it. It is Mahogany, not Mahogony... Paul -- When is wisdom forfeited? Wisdom is lost in toxic words spread by poison-mongers, in unthinking words spread by empty headed non thinkers, and by those who have the truth but do not speak it. -Modern Celtic Triad http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] 56K MDC modem not working...
andy...im not sure about that this modem is not a win modem. the probability of using system resources by this device is very high if it's onboard. on the other hand you have to be sure about that you have enabled your onboard modem from bios settings. but the best way to get specific info about your modem is to contact with the manufacturor. if you can't find their site, try finding it from www.windrivers.com. i hope you achive your goal and remove windows from your system FOREVER. best regards; Ozgur. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] 56K MDC modem not working... Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:33:25 GMT Dear all, Please help - I am only one step away from configuring Linux (Mandrake 7.1) and removing Windows from my machine FOREVER :) At present I can't get Linux to recognise my modem - I am pretty sure that it is not a Winmodem (there isn't anything anywhere that says it is a Winmodem - the words "HSP, HCF, or DSP" do not appear at all). It is a 56K Main-Daughter-Card clone, not a PCMCIA card, but built on the mother board. If I were to install the drivers under Windows the Modem will come up under: '? Other Devices' - '? PCI Card' in the Device Manager and would run in COM3 (ttsy2). Yes - it was not listed under `modems' in Windows, but under '? Other Devices'. Although when the Windows driver was installed it magically changed to a modem!?! I didn't try on configure it while installing Linux. I have tried kppp since installation and then tried to communicate with it, but it says that the modem is busy? So I presume it is there - just doing something - maybe a lock file somewhere? This is all the information that I can obtain from the modem: MODEM 56K MDC COM 3 IRQ 5 Address D800 Manufacturer - Compact Flash Technology The laptop is a Chicony MP-995 machine. What I can get from the manual is: Intel BGA-1 on board uPGA-1 socket for Celeron Intel 440MX Any guesses / answers? Should I have configured it whilst installation - or does this not matter? Many thanks in advance, Andy -- Andy Weller email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [newbie] ipchains and ssh
Dan, I took out the source address and I'm still not able to connect.In your example, I assume you have a genuine IP address in place of xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.Do you have a static IP then? Of course, I'm also starting to wonder if I'm barking up the wrong tree here and maybe I have something else wrong elsewhere. Any generic ideas on what to check to make sure ssh works?And if I can get out the server here with telnet, I should be able to get out with ssh also, right? Thanks, George "Daniel J. Ferris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mailed by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) 09/28/2000 08:58 AM CST Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: [newbie] ipchains and ssh At 08:11 AM 9/27/00 -0500, you wrote: Hello, My first post on the newbie list... I have been struggling for some time to get SSH to work on my Linux box (2.2.13-4mdk : Mandrake 6.1). I believe I finally have it up and running, because I am able to create a SSH connection from/to the machine itself. What I can't seem to manage is to make a SSH connection from an external machine (I work in DC, Linux box is at home in OH). I am trying using FiSSH and I repeatedly get "Failed to Connect to Host." Now, I do have a firewall up, and it is a pretty basic one in order to provide IP-Masquerading (which works!), so I thought maybe my problem was simply that the firewall wasn't letting the connection to port 22. So, after extensive research I felt that what I needed to add was a couple rules to allow the connection in, and I tried to add something like this (and other similar variations): ipchains -A input -p tcp -s xxx.xxx.com -d yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy 22 -j ACCEPT ipchains -A output -p tcp -d xxx.xxx.com -d yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy 22 -j ACCEPT But it isn't working - and I think my problem lies with xxx.xxx.com and yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy (the source and destination addresses). 1. I don't exactly know the source IP address for where I'm at, so is it acceptable to use xxx.xxx.com instead? 2. I have a variable IP - so how the heck do I populate yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy with my current IP address if I don't even know it? For #2 - I've seen some people use $IPADDR which is all well and good, but I don't know how to populate that variable without simply hardcoding and that just presents the same problem again. In addition, I typed in the ipchains commands (both above) at the command prompt and used what my IP address is currently and I still couldn't connect to it remotely via SSH.So now my entire solution has been undermined. Any suggestions? Thanks, George I have the exact same setup as you do (almost) and ssh works from anywhere. I just did this ipchains -A input -p tcp -d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 22 -j ACCEPT If you are really concerned about the source address, try using the ip address instead of the hostname/DNS name, because it may resolve to something unexpected. As you can see, in my example, I wasn't concerned with the source address. Only the destination address and port number. Dan
Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
You're right (technically)... The main difference, though, is that there are a million different configurations of intel machines, and only a handful of apple boxes... Remember mac clones? They didn't last too long, exactly for that reason... even now, I can't get my stupid CD-R running on my Umax s900... while it works fine on my ancient mac 7200 -- jon On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Robin Regennitter wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: the only reason why Mac is different than Intel is the fact they run completely different processors. Mac is PPC Intel is Pentium. An intel port of OS-X is never going to happen. The whole Apple vision depends on a consistent box to go with the OS -- in this case, a box that only apple makes. -- jon From: "F. E. Schaper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:33:18 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush Hey Y'all, Before I got into using Linux I used various versions of the MAC O/S and I always found it to be somewhat unstable, the one thing I did like about it was the fact that it was not nearly as dumbed down as Windows, it is easy to use, but you still need to have some kind of understanding as to what the machine is doing. Hopefully when OS/X gets all the way (it is available in server packages) out they will somehow port it to run on Intel based processor machines, and hopefully the stability problems will be corrected, without having to compromise the ease of use. If these things happen, and the work on developing a more consumer friendly Linux product continues, Microsoft could be in for quite a shock. Of course bad news for Bill is good news for the rest of us. I'll leave the Presidential debate open for others to discuss as I think that is too far off topic for this list, but I will ask you this: Do you want a President who, up until this point is most famous for approving the execution of 2 women, and for picking his nose on national television? I may have to move to Canada next year. Fritz - Original Message - From: Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: Isnt OSX a MAC versions of Operating System. I thought it's not related to Linux. Of course there are some Linux distributions for the Mac. But what I've heard Apple is producing the next generation of O/S entitled OSX. -- It is Mac. But OS X is based on Unix. The buzz is that it is very stable and easy to use. If Mac makes the OS X Intel compatible, watch out! So, although it is not Linux, OS X is a perceived threat to Windoze. Jay "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with gladness, that stays forever after." "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend." http://www.mrsnooky.com
Re: [newbie] Fw: 7.1 hardware bug
- Original Message - From: "Al Collier" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 3:32 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Fw: 7.1 hardware bug Good luck buddie, Gee thanks :)) Pete
[newbie] tcpd
I need to use tcp wrappers. Do I need to put something in inetd.config to have it (tcpd) enabled at boot? I can't see any entry for it there. What is "auth" in inetd.config? What does it do? There is no manual page for it. Also when trying "netstat -ta" I get a table entries that show ports 6000 and 1024 (are they open?). What's on those ports and how to close them? thanks Paul
Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
Microspot lead the way, now everybody is trying to do it. -Gary- In a message dated 9/27/2000 9:20:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFAIK, Mac OS-X (and thats "ten", BTW), is the classic, slick Mac GUI sitting on top of a version of BSD Unix. My little brother just paid $30 for a beta version that he is going to install on his iBook. (go figure-paying that for a beta! smile)
Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
Okay I have been watching this thread and I just can't resist :-) Let's all join forces (and I do believe that there is a sufficient number of us) and everyone vote (write-in ballot) for the Gov of Minnesota -- Jesse "The Body" Ventura giggle Trust me, no one thought he was going to win the governorship 2 years ago but he did just like the masses do not believe that Linux will be a "viable" O/S against Winblows and I guess all I can say is Only Time Will Tell. :-) Patti - Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/27/00, 10:28:54 AM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush: I'd rather pick a random name from the phone book rather than vote for either Bush or Gore. I'll probably end up picking a name from the EFF or something like that. It's better to choose someone I'd really want knowing my canidate has no chance of winning than to throw my vote in behind someone I wouldn't trust to run my Quake server and become just another zombie. Does anyone have any favorites for who we should vote for as the Geek platform? If you wanted to get serious you might pick something like Richard Stallman and Eric Raymond (I probably killed their names but oh well.. I misspell my own name too) but I can't imagine the two of them working together if they could avoid it. So this election day vote for the losser. :) *^*^*^* Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? -- Real Genius On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote: "F. E. Schaper" wrote: I'll leave the Presidential debate open for others to discuss as I think that is too far off topic for this list, but I will ask you this: Do you want a President who, up until this point is most famous for approving the execution of 2 women, and for picking his nose on national television? I may have to move to Canada next year. I agree that this is better left somewhere else...but I can't help it...I'll never vote for a potential president whose agenda includes destroying the 2nd amendment in order to achieve the (dubious) honor of removing firearms from Americans! I say again...never. -- /\ DarkLord \/
[newbie] Formating IDE HD
Hello. I have been trying to install Linux Mandrake in my old computer and now I cannot create a Linux partition. Starting form my 1.2 Gigabyte IDE-HD with Windows NT4 system, I first deleted the ancient NT partition and created a new PRI-DOS partition (using fdisk). When I tried to reformat the HD (using the DOS format command) I found that only 4M existed !!! I have tried using MIPS to shrink the DOS partition and create a Linux partition (at least 1G) unsuccessfully. MIPS gave an error in the boot record. Then I tried to install Linux Mandrake 7.0 from a diskette using rawwrite but I got the "no partition available" error. I would like advice on how to define a partition for Linux (at least 1G). The BIOS does not allow me to boot from CD. Thank you.
RE: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
[replies below] Richard Garand [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 12190132 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ronald J. Hall Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush "F. E. Schaper" wrote: I'll leave the Presidential debate open for others to discuss as I think that is too far off topic for this list, but I will ask you this: Do you want a President who, up until this point is most famous for approving the execution of 2 women, and for picking his nose on national television? executing 2 womenand how many men? 200? 2000? I may have to move to Canada next year. yeah
Re: [newbie] Disk Partitioning Bad parameter passed
i don't know if this will help, but at the crash try alt-f3, alt-f4 etc and see if there are indications on the consoles what was going on at the time bascule Shawn Tayler wrote: Hi Guys, Just trying out Mandrake 7.1 and I can't get past the Partition setup page during the install. It always chokes while formating the last partition on the HD. The error says that a bad parameter was passed, but not to what it was passed to.
RE: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
I don't really understand how the US elections work, but if you're talking about the president, wouldn't Nader be the best of the current candidates? Richard Garand [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 12190132 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush I'd rather pick a random name from the phone book rather than vote for either Bush or Gore. I'll probably end up picking a name from the EFF or something like that. It's better to choose someone I'd really want knowing my canidate has no chance of winning than to throw my vote in behind someone I wouldn't trust to run my Quake server and become just another zombie. Does anyone have any favorites for who we should vote for as the Geek platform? If you wanted to get serious you might pick something like Richard Stallman and Eric Raymond (I probably killed their names but oh well.. I misspell my own name too) but I can't imagine the two of them working together if they could avoid it. So this election day vote for the losser. :)
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Vic wrote: Oh ok, I wonder, is there a way I can create a "rescue" disc in case I want to replace grub with Lilo in case it does not co-operate? I have the opposite problem: how can I re-install GRUB ? It came as standard with my Mandrake 7.1 install, but was replaced by LILO when I modified my boot procedure with Drakboot. TIA, Ron the Frog, on the banks of the Paraguay River. -- Children are natural mimic who act like their parents despite every effort to teach them good manners. --- http://personales.conexion.com.py/~rolgiati ---
[newbie] IRQ Questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It looks like my modem although on COM2 in Windows (ttyS1) is actually using IRQ 5 instead of IRQ 3 (which is what it should be according to the documentation that I read). My question has two parts. 1. How do I check which IRQ my modem is actually using under Linux and 2. If it needs to be changed, how would I do this? Thanks, Aaron Aaron Benedict - [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: 95DB 011B A173 B613 948E A51A 0FE4 02EB 35EF C4F4 Yahoo Messenger ID: abenedict -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.3 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBOdJ3KSXx/pF+wJ/6EQJxCQCfaVFVul1ABXehz7fpDGxJEZ+OfPEAn1/O fz+GR90U8nx8Qtz/FcdpBsO+ =tvfn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[newbie] aircard 210
is anyone here using sierra wireless cdpd aircard 210 on linux? I got the pcmcia-cs-3.1.14-aircard.patch for it but have no idea how to apply that patch. please email me if you can help. thanks Paul
Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
Dunno. I didn't even look before overwriting the included copy of Win ME (funny name eh?) on the new server with Mandrake. Windows blows cheese. All that'd happen is someone would rewrite lilo/grub a little to fix it and then it'd work again. The OS can't really tell the difference. *^*^*^* Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? -- Real Genius On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, goldenpi wrote: Dont feel great just yet-I hear twindows millenium is going to write its boot code to the MBR so that it cannot be used in a duelboot. Douptless m$ has some exuse-probably say its to combat virus that write to the boot record even through there 10 yeard old. Oppinions of my new sig? I hope it comes through. On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: Hey Y'all, Before I got into using Linux I used various versions of the MAC O/S and I always found it to be somewhat unstable, the one thing I did like about it was the fact that it was not nearly as dumbed down as Windows, it is easy to use, but you still need to have some kind of understanding as to what the machine is doing. Hopefully when OS/X gets all the way (it is available in server packages) out they will somehow port it to run on Intel based processor machines, and hopefully the stability problems will be corrected, without having to compromise the ease of use. If these things happen, and the work on developing a more consumer friendly Linux product continues, Microsoft could be in for quite a shock. Of course bad news for Bill is good news for the rest of us. I'll leave the Presidential debate open for others to discuss as I think that is too far off topic for this list, but I will ask you this: Do you want a President who, up until this point is most famous for approving the execution of 2 women, and for picking his nose on national television? I may have to move to Canada next year. Fritz - Original Message - From: Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: Isnt OSX a MAC versions of Operating System. I thought it's not related to Linux. Of course there are some Linux distributions for the Mac. But what I've heard Apple is producing the next generation of O/S entitled OSX. -- It is Mac. But OS X is based on Unix. The buzz is that it is very stable and easy to use. If Mac makes the OS X Intel compatible, watch out! So, although it is not Linux, OS X is a perceived threat to Windoze. Jay "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with gladness, that stays forever after." "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend." http://www.mrsnooky.com -- == Goldenpi- programer, unreal level creator, linux user and all round geek. If you are reading this, I sent this mail from linux.
Re: [newbie] OpenGL
Well it kind of depends. OpenGL is a graphics library and I seriously doubt that there is an OpenGL rpm on your system. Try rpm -qa | grep opengl. The missing OpenGL support that the game is refering has to do with your graphics card drivers. So the question becomes what kind of graphics card are you using and does it support OpenGL. A OpenGL rpm would be something developers would use in order to create graphic images, etc. Larry -- Larry Hignight Descent 3 Beta Tester Caldera Linux 2.4 5:10pm up 2 days, 21:06, 4 users, load average: 0.01, 0.12, 0.08 KompuKit wrote: I have a Pentium 233 MMX 64 mg ram a S3 video card Rev 1.0 drivers (in windows) I'm trying to install a game: Search and Rescue for Linux helicopter game that requires OpenGL... it won't compile...unless it's on my system... I have Mandrake 7.02...does this come on the CD? if so, what's the RPM called... -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit=
Re: [newbie] DSL
Steve Dressler wrote: I have 2 win98 machines, and networked with ADSL going to both computers, I also have a IBM Server 320 with mandrake 7.1 installed on it. How much trouble is it to connect it to the network so I can have DSL going to it? Sorry if this has been topic before. If your DSL is connected to one of the Win98 machines, you could use a program called NAT32 - http://www.nat32.com - that will easily connect all machines through one. I use it right now and it is awesome. I highly recommend it. Rob Scripter
Re: [newbie] Geforce 2 driver
Maybe because you have a Gforce 1 and not a 2 (as the original poster asked about). Duh! Why don't you read some of the faq's I pointed out in the previous post. It might help you out a bit. I'm also going to assume that your XF86Config file refers to a 'nv' driver and not the newer 'nvidia' driver. Larry markOpoleO wrote: Ok so explain to me why MD 7.1 detected my video card a Geforce 1...duh. LOL markOpoleO - Original Message - From: "Larry Hignight" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Geforce 2 driver MarkO, Well that's kind of funny. Because if you go to the supported hardware section of the linux-mandrake web site there is a link to instructions that are awfully similar to the ones I posted below. But just to be sure. I ran over and checked the Linux Drivers page ... funny thing. Requirement 2.1 says that Nvidia drivers require XFree4.01 to work. Directly above that it says that the Riva and NV1 chips are supported under XFree4.0 ... not Gforce 1 and 2. Which would probably explains some of the threads we get around here about once or twice a month bitching about installing XFree4.01. If you don't believe me go to irc.openprojects.net channel #loki and ask jlundy if nvidia drivers are supported by Mandrake 7.1 he works in the driver dept. at Nvidia so I think he should know. Larry markOpoleO wrote: What are you talking about?! MD 7.1 Supports Geforce 2 and 1 cards right during install. You can allways upgrade to 4.1.0 if you want.. markOpoleO - Original Message - From: "Larry Hignight" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Geforce 2 driver Dominus Paparum wrote: quick question before I install LM, does it come with drivers for the geforce2? i can download them from nvidia how do i install these drivers? the file extention is .rpm what do i do with it? Get Email, News, Links and The Best Selection at http://AnimeNation.com Dominus, First, do us all a favor and set your email client to wrap outgoing messages at 72 characters or less. Thanks. If your new to Linux and not comfortable working from a command line then forget about it for right now. I don't think any distro currently has support for Nvidia "built in". That may have already changed with the release Red Hat 7 though. I'm sure Mandrake 7.2 will also support Nvidia cards out of the box. If you still feel up for a project here is what I did in a nutshell to get my Gforce working. A. Your gonna have to upgrade to XFree4.01 .5 Almost forgot ... mv /etx/X11 and /usr/X11 to /etc/X11-old and /usr/X11-old 1. goto www.xfree86.org and download Xinstall.sh and extract 2. take a look at the readme files while your there 3. run 'sh Xinstall.sh' then download the correct binaries 4. install the binaries 5. run /usr/X11/bin/xf86config ... be sure to have your monitor manual handy B. Install the Nvidia drivers 1. Install the both rpm's ... no sweat here. I had to --nodeps one of them. C. Tweak XF86Config 1. Refer to the faq at Nvidia under linux drivers 2. I recall having to uncomment the glx line under modules 3. Had to change the driver from nv to nvidia voila ... your done for now. I'm just leaving my machine on inittab 3 for now. Whenever I want to play a game I simply 'startx' and run the game from inside of twm which seems to be more stable then before I had a Nvidia card. Incedently, I'm also getting fairly significantly higher frame rates under this setting then under WinME. -- Larry Hignight Descent 3 Beta tester Caldera Linux 2.4 12:45am up 1 day, 8:49, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00 -- Larry Hignight Descent 3 Beta tester Caldera Linux 2.4 12:45am up 1 day, 8:49, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00 -- Larry Hignight Descent 3 Beta Tester Caldera Linux 2.4 5:15pm up 2 days, 21:11, 4 users, load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.07
RE: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pardon my heresy, but I don't think Linux will make it as a viable alternative desktop for the masses (no offense intended) for the following reasons: 1) the Linux community is too decentralized. This one I can agree on ;-) One of it's strongest points. What is decentralized is hard to stop. At the same time the community backs it's leaders almost completely. If Linus makes a choice the people will follow him because he is a smart leader. If he is proven wrong he will admit it and go with the new way and give credit where credit is due. This is one reason Linux is so successful. Very decentralized but with strong vortexes of leadership. If you don't like what the leader decides then your free to do your own thing. If you prove them wrong then they usually will recognize your proof. 2) there are no such things as standards, even defacto standards - Cut Paste is an example - there is not even any social pressure for developers to adhere to a standard. I think what you are refering to is there are no "cattle" developers. Standards are only standards if everyone follows them .. who's to say my standard is the right one. In the same respect that MS or APPLE follow standards so does linux ... but Linux goes one better ... name and prove ANY other operating system that actually follows the RFC's for its tcp / udp stack. No time to get into ALL the *relevant* standards that ARE followed .. this is just one example. Anyone who thinks there are no standards obviously haven't followed Linux. It all began based on public standards. A free version of those standards. Where there were not yet standards new standards have been made and submitted to the proper authorities as new standards. I have used pretty much every WM for X and it's been a steady progression. KDE Gnome have both comitted themselves to standardizing cutpaste, dragdrop, etc and are working towards making their components work across both. Jabber has created one of the best references for XML in a real-world product and they are setting the standard for interdevice communication and instant messages. PHP and Perl are open specs that anyone can add to or make their own version of. Both have completely been rewritten at least once to make room for better versions. 3) window managers make things too different - a nightmare for the corporate world, even though you're running Mandrake (or Debian, or whatever) your window manager makes the environment foreign to anyone that doesn't run that window manager. As a person in the corperate environment, I can also agree with this ... at the very low user level. Linux is Linux thats it its applications that people are confusing with the actual operating system ... if you are in an X session and alt to a console it doesn't make ANY difference what window manager you are using ... its all command line anyway ... lest we forget this is UNIX maybe its time to teach more people right from the get go that the little pretty pictures aren't what make an Operating system. If your company doesn't want to support more than one WM then don't. If you do it isn't that hard to do, I know because I do it, and each user can set their own prefs. Using NFS/NIS users only have to set things up once and it is shared across all the machines they have access to. Windows and MacOS can't even begin to touch that without a lot of weird voodoo. 4) Linux developers work for free and are not subject to the same QA that Apple is subject to. WAY off on this one. As a developer working on an open project you are slammed harder than anyone else to make something that exceeds expectations... you think people who pay for things can be demanding try coding for free LOL and not only offer it for free...but give people the means to contact you PERSONALLY so they can reach you whenever they want. Its an awsome and exciting thing ... if you code because you love it ... not *just* because it feeds you plus its not just an installed base of 10 people who you had to sell your software to becasue its free 10's of thousands of people (including smarter coders) will be sending you *feedback* before you know it, if there are ANY problems they are usually pointed out pretty quickly. This is the only real way to get the QA corperations make it LOOK like they have. (isolated testing by a team or teams who punch a clock) In the same respect this is how projects are guaged to live and prosper of die off. I guess for some it is pretty hard to comprehend loving something so much you would spend all your free time working on it with the only goal being to make it better than everyone elses especially when you give it away for free. Right on. As a sysadmin I can say I dread when I have to use commercial software. It is buggier, harder to setup, and has much stricter requirements than opensource software. As a
[newbie] Another Mandrake review
CNET posted a review of Mandrake 7.1 this week - favorable but nothing substantial. It's at linux.cnet.com/linux. The high point (for me, at least) was the ad for RedHat 6.2. That's ok -- the same ad shows up on the RedHat 7.0 review. They say the RH 7.0 file is 1 gb -- I think I'll pass. -- cmg
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Vic wrote: Oh ok, I wonder, is there a way I can create a "rescue" disc in case I want to replace grub with Lilo in case it does not co-operate? I don't think I have grub installed, as it is just some files in /boot/grub and no install.sh file. Do I need to install some other software to activate it? Well, off to snoop around in the faq about grub, although I don't think I caught anything about how to specify a runlevel, maybe I need to snoop more or something. many thanks Changing your default log in is done in /etc/inittab. To change from the text log in to graphical, you would change the line: id:3:initdefault to id:5:initdefault Since I don't trust my memory, I went back to the newbie archives to get the info. You will also find references on how to move from LILO to GRUB and back again. Mandrake installed GRUB automatically for me, and I have been happy with it. Since I'm running only one OS, I haven't had a reason to fiddle with it. Making changes is rather straight forward though. You simply need to edit the menu.lst file. There are numerous examples on how it should look. Enjoy. -- Barry :-) Registered Linux User #183879
Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
Where does he stand on IP ownership issues etc? *^*^*^* Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? -- Real Genius On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Patti Wavinak wrote: Okay I have been watching this thread and I just can't resist :-) Let's all join forces (and I do believe that there is a sufficient number of us) and everyone vote (write-in ballot) for the Gov of Minnesota -- Jesse "The Body" Ventura giggle Trust me, no one thought he was going to win the governorship 2 years ago but he did just like the masses do not believe that Linux will be a "viable" O/S against Winblows and I guess all I can say is Only Time Will Tell. :-) Patti - Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/27/00, 10:28:54 AM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush: I'd rather pick a random name from the phone book rather than vote for either Bush or Gore. I'll probably end up picking a name from the EFF or something like that. It's better to choose someone I'd really want knowing my canidate has no chance of winning than to throw my vote in behind someone I wouldn't trust to run my Quake server and become just another zombie. Does anyone have any favorites for who we should vote for as the Geek platform? If you wanted to get serious you might pick something like Richard Stallman and Eric Raymond (I probably killed their names but oh well.. I misspell my own name too) but I can't imagine the two of them working together if they could avoid it. So this election day vote for the losser. :) *^*^*^* Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? -- Real Genius On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote: "F. E. Schaper" wrote: I'll leave the Presidential debate open for others to discuss as I think that is too far off topic for this list, but I will ask you this: Do you want a President who, up until this point is most famous for approving the execution of 2 women, and for picking his nose on national television? I may have to move to Canada next year. I agree that this is better left somewhere else...but I can't help it...I'll never vote for a potential president whose agenda includes destroying the 2nd amendment in order to achieve the (dubious) honor of removing firearms from Americans! I say again...never. -- /\ DarkLord \/
RE: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
"F. E. Schaper" wrote: I'll leave the Presidential debate open for others to discuss as I think that is too far off topic for this list, but I will ask you this: Do you want a President who, up until this point is most famous for approving the execution of 2 women, and for picking his nose on national television? I may have to move to Canada next year. I agree that this is better left somewhere else...but I can't help it...I'll never vote for a potential president whose agenda includes destroying the 2nd amendment in order to achieve the (dubious) honor of removing firearms from Americans! I say again...never. -- /\ DarkLord How about a potential president who claims to have invented the internet??? An 'A' for originality? Mike
Re: [newbie] 3D Prophet II GTS 32 MB
I have a 3d Prophet Geforce 1 DDR, it should detect it automaticlly during install. markOpoleO - Original Message - From: "James Boeck" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:02 PM Subject: [newbie] 3D Prophet II GTS 32 MB I just bought a new graphics card the 3D Prophet II GTS 32 MB, does anyone know of any drivers or way to get this card to install in Mandrake Linux 7.1. I currently have a Matrox Millenium II in the machine so it will still operate but it would be nice to use a decent graphics card. Nvidia's drivers only cover Geforce One's and they mention the 2nd edition but does not give instructions on how to install them? Any help would be appreciated. James Boeck _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [newbie] Geforce 2 driver
Mandrake 7.1 uses the same drivers for Geforce 1 and 2...it is just the same Nvidea drivers..DUH. markOpoleO - Original Message - From: "Larry Hignight" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Geforce 2 driver Maybe because you have a Gforce 1 and not a 2 (as the original poster asked about). Duh! Why don't you read some of the faq's I pointed out in the previous post. It might help you out a bit. I'm also going to assume that your XF86Config file refers to a 'nv' driver and not the newer 'nvidia' driver. Larry markOpoleO wrote: Ok so explain to me why MD 7.1 detected my video card a Geforce 1...duh. LOL markOpoleO - Original Message - From: "Larry Hignight" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Geforce 2 driver MarkO, Well that's kind of funny. Because if you go to the supported hardware section of the linux-mandrake web site there is a link to instructions that are awfully similar to the ones I posted below. But just to be sure. I ran over and checked the Linux Drivers page ... funny thing. Requirement 2.1 says that Nvidia drivers require XFree4.01 to work. Directly above that it says that the Riva and NV1 chips are supported under XFree4.0 ... not Gforce 1 and 2. Which would probably explains some of the threads we get around here about once or twice a month bitching about installing XFree4.01. If you don't believe me go to irc.openprojects.net channel #loki and ask jlundy if nvidia drivers are supported by Mandrake 7.1 he works in the driver dept. at Nvidia so I think he should know. Larry markOpoleO wrote: What are you talking about?! MD 7.1 Supports Geforce 2 and 1 cards right during install. You can allways upgrade to 4.1.0 if you want.. markOpoleO - Original Message - From: "Larry Hignight" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Geforce 2 driver Dominus Paparum wrote: quick question before I install LM, does it come with drivers for the geforce2? i can download them from nvidia how do i install these drivers? the file extention is .rpm what do i do with it? Get Email, News, Links and The Best Selection at http://AnimeNation.com Dominus, First, do us all a favor and set your email client to wrap outgoing messages at 72 characters or less. Thanks. If your new to Linux and not comfortable working from a command line then forget about it for right now. I don't think any distro currently has support for Nvidia "built in". That may have already changed with the release Red Hat 7 though. I'm sure Mandrake 7.2 will also support Nvidia cards out of the box. If you still feel up for a project here is what I did in a nutshell to get my Gforce working. A. Your gonna have to upgrade to XFree4.01 .5 Almost forgot ... mv /etx/X11 and /usr/X11 to /etc/X11-old and /usr/X11-old 1. goto www.xfree86.org and download Xinstall.sh and extract 2. take a look at the readme files while your there 3. run 'sh Xinstall.sh' then download the correct binaries 4. install the binaries 5. run /usr/X11/bin/xf86config ... be sure to have your monitor manual handy B. Install the Nvidia drivers 1. Install the both rpm's ... no sweat here. I had to --nodeps one of them. C. Tweak XF86Config 1. Refer to the faq at Nvidia under linux drivers 2. I recall having to uncomment the glx line under modules 3. Had to change the driver from nv to nvidia voila ... your done for now. I'm just leaving my machine on inittab 3 for now. Whenever I want to play a game I simply 'startx' and run the game from inside of twm which seems to be more stable then before I had a Nvidia card. Incedently, I'm also getting fairly significantly higher frame rates under this setting then under WinME. -- Larry Hignight Descent 3 Beta tester Caldera Linux 2.4 12:45am up 1 day, 8:49, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00 -- Larry Hignight Descent 3 Beta tester Caldera Linux 2.4 12:45am up 1 day, 8:49, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00 -- Larry Hignight Descent 3 Beta
[newbie] Console error's?
Hello! estimados amigos de newbie(dear friends)
I'm having some problems installing "acroreader405.tar" and this is the
situation if I go by the book "LM7.0 Getting Started Manual" I'd try :
tar xvf linux -ar-405.tar.gz -the answer is :"tar old option "f "
requires an argument - try :tar --help for more info"
According to MUO'S how to " Installing Non-RPm programs" the example they
used is "acrobat reader405" the same that I have. following the steps to
unpack the archive I wrote:
tar xzf linux-ar-40.tar.gz " .Console answer.."tar {child}:cannot open
archive linux' ' ' ' No such file or dir.." tar {child} :error is not
recoverable :exiting now "
and the story goes on.. even if I type " tar vzxf " commands (according
to Flupke) but the results are the same. the cdrom works okay ,but not
the command line..
What I have is LM7.0 -Complete" running (along) in 13.6 gig Maxtor
-CyrixInstead 6x86MX 64RAM .233 Mh. Can you tell me what is the
problem? I'm fighting this for 3 months .
In advance let me thank you for your patient and your kindness.
Blessings.
Carlos
RE: [newbie] Another Mandrake review
The mandrake 2-CD install was 1GB for mebut then i got the iso images for the full CDs. If you download the ~700-2000 seperate packages you want, it's probably a bit smaller. Richard Garand [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 12190132 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carroll Grigsby Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 6:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Another Mandrake review CNET posted a review of Mandrake 7.1 this week - favorable but nothing substantial. It's at linux.cnet.com/linux. The high point (for me, at least) was the ad for RedHat 6.2. That's ok -- the same ad shows up on the RedHat 7.0 review. They say the RH 7.0 file is 1 gb -- I think I'll pass. -- cmg
RE: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
I'm dual booting WinME and Mandrake right now. I haven't payed much attention to this thread. I just saw something about dual booting Mandrake and WinME. If you have 2 hard drives, it's easy. Put ME on one, and Mandrake on the other. Set the Linux drive to master, and you're set. If you have one hard drive, just install Mandrake AFTER windows. Tyler -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 5:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush Dunno. I didn't even look before overwriting the included copy of Win ME (funny name eh?) on the new server with Mandrake. Windows blows cheese. All that'd happen is someone would rewrite lilo/grub a little to fix it and then it'd work again. The OS can't really tell the difference. *^*^*^* Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? -- Real Genius On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, goldenpi wrote: Dont feel great just yet-I hear twindows millenium is going to write its boot code to the MBR so that it cannot be used in a duelboot. Douptless m$ has some exuse-probably say its to combat virus that write to the boot record even through there 10 yeard old. Oppinions of my new sig? I hope it comes through. On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: Hey Y'all, Before I got into using Linux I used various versions of the MAC O/S and I always found it to be somewhat unstable, the one thing I did like about it was the fact that it was not nearly as dumbed down as Windows, it is easy to use, but you still need to have some kind of understanding as to what the machine is doing. Hopefully when OS/X gets all the way (it is available in server packages) out they will somehow port it to run on Intel based processor machines, and hopefully the stability problems will be corrected, without having to compromise the ease of use. If these things happen, and the work on developing a more consumer friendly Linux product continues, Microsoft could be in for quite a shock. Of course bad news for Bill is good news for the rest of us. I'll leave the Presidential debate open for others to discuss as I think that is too far off topic for this list, but I will ask you this: Do you want a President who, up until this point is most famous for approving the execution of 2 women, and for picking his nose on national television? I may have to move to Canada next year. Fritz - Original Message - From: Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you wrote: Isnt OSX a MAC versions of Operating System. I thought it's not related to Linux. Of course there are some Linux distributions for the Mac. But what I've heard Apple is producing the next generation of O/S entitled OSX. -- It is Mac. But OS X is based on Unix. The buzz is that it is very stable and easy to use. If Mac makes the OS X Intel compatible, watch out! So, although it is not Linux, OS X is a perceived threat to Windoze. Jay "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with gladness, that stays forever after." "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend." http://www.mrsnooky.com -- == Goldenpi- programer, unreal level creator, linux user and all round geek. If you are reading this, I sent this mail from linux.
Re: [newbie] When an X app fails how do I view error messages?
Open up an xterm (or equivlant) and type in the name of the program that is giving you problems. it'll give you error feedback. When an X application running under GNOME fails, where do the error messages go, and how can I trap for them. I am running Mandrake 7.1 with a GUI login... Something's broke, and I am not sure how to view the messages. -- Anthony http://binaryfusion.net Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Formating IDE HD
Don't you just love fs support by MS?! Well, I can't see any reason for not wanting to flash the bios, especially, if it will add something as convenient as a bootable cd-rom. Short of that maybe you can get a hold of a partition magic floppy? If you have another Linux machine maybe you could make a bootable floppy disk with the Linux version fdisk? Larry Ricardo Zevallos wrote: Hello. I have been trying to install Linux Mandrake in my old computer and now I cannot create a Linux partition. Starting form my 1.2 Gigabyte IDE-HD with Windows NT4 system, I first deleted the ancient NT partition and created a new PRI-DOS partition (using fdisk). When I tried to reformat the HD (using the DOS format command) I found that only 4M existed !!! I have tried using MIPS to shrink the DOS partition and create a Linux partition (at least 1G) unsuccessfully. MIPS gave an error in the boot record. Then I tried to install Linux Mandrake 7.0 from a diskette using rawwrite but I got the "no partition available" error. I would like advice on how to define a partition for Linux (at least 1G). The BIOS does not allow me to boot from CD. Thank you. -- Larry Hignight Descent 3 Beta Tester Caldera Linux 2.4 7:00pm up 2 days, 22:56, 4 users, load average: 0.10, 0.05, 0.01
Re: [newbie] OpenGL
I thought I answered your question in my first email Larry Hignight wrote: Well it kind of depends. OpenGL is a graphics library and I seriously doubt that there is an OpenGL rpm on your system. Try rpm -qa | grep opengl. The missing OpenGL support that the game is refering has to do with your graphics card drivers. So the question becomes what kind of graphics card are you using and does it support OpenGL. A OpenGL rpm would be something developers would use in order to create graphic images, etc. Larry -- Larry Hignight Descent 3 Beta Tester Caldera Linux 2.4 5:10pm up 2 days, 21:06, 4 users, load average: 0.01, 0.12, 0.08 KompuKit wrote: I have a Pentium 233 MMX 64 mg ram a S3 video card Rev 1.0 drivers (in windows) I'm trying to install a game: Search and Rescue for Linux helicopter game that requires OpenGL... it won't compile...unless it's on my system... I have Mandrake 7.02...does this come on the CD? if so, what's the RPM called... -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit= -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit=
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
2000-09-27. Incoming bitstream from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Vic wrote: Oh ok, I wonder, is there a way I can create a "rescue" disc in case I want to replace grub with Lilo in case it does not co-operate? I have the opposite problem: how can I re-install GRUB ? It came as standard with my Mandrake 7.1 install, but was replaced by LILO when I modified my boot procedure with Drakboot. Just run /boot/grub/install.sh as root and Grub is back in town :) Paul -- I am not in denial. I'm just really picky about the reality I accept. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] mail-client software
2000-09-27. Incoming bitstream from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was just at the site and the links don't work to download the software. Am I missing something here? Eric Subject: Re: [newbie] mail-client software Date: Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 05:21:11PM +0100 Where at Tucows is Mahogony? I was looking all over and couldn't find it. It is Mahogany, not Mahogony... Search for Mahogany at www.google.com that will get you to their webpage. If that doesn't work I am clueless... Paul -- I am not in denial. I'm just really picky about the reality I accept. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
[newbie] Brand new, and full of questions
I am completely new to Linux, and thoroughly confused, so please forgive my naivete. My system: Video:ATI Rage/RageII PCI (ati_m64) Sound: VIA PCI Audio Controller (Onboard) Modem: 5634BTS 56K Video Ready Modem (Hardware) Manuf: Texas Inst. LAN: Linksys LNEPCI II PCI Ethernet Adapter MB: VIA EPox EP-7KXA PRO:AMD Athlon Slot-A 650 MHz RAM:128 PC-100 SDRAM HD1: 20GB Maxtor HD2: 15GB WD First Question: I recently tried to install Linux-Mandrake 6.5 or 6.2 (Whichever the case may be, the cover says both) I already have Win 98, Win 2K, and Win NT on this computer, so I bought another hard drive for Linux. I used Partition commander to create a Linux partition on the second hard drive (Both a regular linux partition, and a swap partition). I installed it according to the rules, but LILO won't install. I can boot it from the boot disk that I created, but I can't boot it otherwise. I tried to read up on it in the manual, but that's in a different language. Second question: I booted Linux with the boot disk, and the GUI takes up more than my screen. I can go to the right, left, up, or down with the mouse and it will follow it, but it really seems strange. Is this normal?
Re: [newbie] Console error's?
possibly try
tar -xzf linux-ar-40.tar.gz
that's how i've always done it
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 10:22 PM
Subject: [newbie] Console error's?
Hello! estimados amigos de newbie(dear friends)
I'm having some problems installing "acroreader405.tar" and this is the
situation if I go by the book "LM7.0 Getting Started Manual" I'd try :
tar xvf linux -ar-405.tar.gz -the answer is :"tar old option "f "
requires an argument - try :tar --help for more info"
According to MUO'S how to " Installing Non-RPm programs" the example they
used is "acrobat reader405" the same that I have. following the steps to
unpack the archive I wrote:
tar xzf linux-ar-40.tar.gz " .Console answer.."tar {child}:cannot open
archive linux' ' ' ' No such file or dir.." tar {child} :error is not
recoverable :exiting now "
and the story goes on.. even if I type " tar vzxf " commands (according
to Flupke) but the results are the same. the cdrom works okay ,but not
the command line..
What I have is LM7.0 -Complete" running (along) in 13.6 gig Maxtor
-CyrixInstead 6x86MX 64RAM .233 Mh. Can you tell me what is the
problem? I'm fighting this for 3 months .
In advance let me thank you for your patient and your kindness.
Blessings.
Carlos
Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
yes macintosh is developing a system based on the linux/unix os, mirosoft helped a little ofcourse, but the new os looks promissing however stability of our precious kernel was sacraficed a little infact during the demo that steve jobs played, cant remember where off hand but one of the programs stalled however it did not bring down the whole os and was easily exited, you can find the article somewhere on abc.com In a message dated 27-Sep-00 03:10:03 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isnt OSX a MAC versions of Operating System. I thought it's not related to Linux. Of course there are some Linux distributions for the Mac. But what I've heard Apple is producing the next generation of O/S entitled OSX. Rob
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
i think your blind next time read it pointed strait to it and only took me a minute to find it but here is the site http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.1/QuickLook/grub.php3 enjoy In a message dated 27-Sep-00 07:43:53 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots.
Re: [newbie] off-topic (webring-app)
I think I've seen some over at http://www.cgi-resources.com (damn... startin' to feel like an ad for those guys) -- jon On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, KompuKit wrote: Can someone tell me where I can get an APP or cgi-script of some sort..to HOST a WEBRING...on my server? FREE, of course
Re: [newbie] off-topic (webring-app)
Try http://hotscripts.com KompuKit wrote: Can someone tell me where I can get an APP or cgi-script of some sort..to HOST a WEBRING...on my server? FREE, of course -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit=
Re: [newbie] Space problem - help!
heres a thought im running out of space myself and i dont have room on my laptop to install a 40gb hard drive. any suggestions?? In a message dated 27-Sep-00 12:01:36 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Buy a second hdd? That's what I do. I see 40Gb'ers selling for $135 these days. Move your /home files there and reinstall Mandrake. You can try resizing but it's usually easier and safer just to add space. Also you might look to see if you have any non-programs in that partition (mp3's ec) and move them to /home.
Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
research by some university shows that statistically linux is the second most popular os in the world, #1 is still winblows however there are many benifits in the linux community you have thousands of developers who find a bug post it and instantly thousands of others begin working on the problem and post a solution within record time!!, you can find that on one of the many linux news sites accompanying bill gates comment about linux! i feel linux has potential given i am a dead beat basic programmer (cringes at the thought of microsoft programming) but from what i have seen of linux mainly mandrake proven #1 in usability and richness in features there can be an obtainable goal of uniformity soon grub, sawmill, kde and other guis will merely be a skin, i particularly like kde but thats only because it looks better and currently on my system is more stable, we have seen many advancements in the linux world as well, (ie microprogramming, qnx, trinux, the number one triumph of all started in the beginning stability) the linux community can band together but it may take a little bit of effort we have many companys working together and more joining every day but i will give you that it is hard and everyone has their own ideas, who knows we may have a programmer who is analyizing every bit of code out there for linux and is secretly creating the ultimate linux os in his basement, the box for every user!!! i want to be that person but i have much to learn!
RE: [newbie] Brand new, and full of questions
welcome to the club! First Question: I recently tried to install Linux-Mandrake 6.5 or 6.2 (Whichever the case may be, the cover says both) I already have Win 98, Win 2K, and Win NT on this computer, so I bought another hard drive for Linux. I used Partition commander to create a Linux partition on the second hard drive (Both a regular linux partition, and a swap partition). I installed it according to the rules, but LILO won't install. I can boot it from the boot disk that I created, but I can't boot it otherwise. I tried to read up on it in the manual, but that's in a different language. are you sure lilo is installed on your MBR? this is probably on your windows drive I know it's scary to overwrite it but anything can be fixed Second question: I booted Linux with the boot disk, and the GUI takes up more than my screen. I can go to the right, left, up, or down with the mouse and it will follow it, but it really seems strange. Is this normal? ...this is normal it's a type of virtual desktop, it's annoying for most but some like the extra desktop space it gives them. Unfortunately I can't remember what to do to get rid of it, I think you have to edit your xf86config file. have you considered upgrading to mandrake 7.1? It is amazingly better good luck! seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...
Re: [newbie] Brand new, and full of questions
Ralph Avery wrote: [snip] First Question: I recently tried to install Linux-Mandrake 6.5 or 6.2 (Whichever the case may be, the cover says both) I already have Win 98, Win 2K, and Win NT on this computer, so I bought another hard drive for Linux. I used Partition commander to create a Linux partition on the second hard drive (Both a regular linux partition, and a swap partition). I installed it according to the rules, but LILO won't install. I can boot it from the boot disk that I created, but I can't boot it otherwise. I tried to read up on it in the manual, but that's in a different language. Ralphlogin as root (or 'su -' to root) and in a console type: lilo lilo should now be installed where you told it to be installed when you installed Mandrake. Second question: I booted Linux with the boot disk, and the GUI takes up more than my screen. I can go to the right, left, up, or down with the mouse and it will follow it, but it really seems strange. Is this normal? Yes, kinda'. :-) Press ctl-alt and then either the plus or minus key as many times as it takes to get the screen back to the way it was when you started. You've just toggled through all of the resolutions that were set during the installation. Only the highest resolution will fill the screen without any part being hidden. Alan
Re: [newbie] Space problem - help!
Buy a second hdd? That's what I do. I see 40Gb'ers selling for $135 these days. Move your /home files there and reinstall Mandrake. You can try resizing but it's usually easier and safer just to add space. Also you might look to see if you have any non-programs in that partition (mp3's ec) and move them to /home. *^*^*^* Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? -- Real Genius On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Sebastian Varges wrote: I installed Mandrake as the only OS on my PC with 2GB and used the standard settings. Now I have a space problem: there is no space left at all in directory '/' but 87% free in /home. I have lots of strange errors because of the space problem in '/'. Deleting some application did not help much, and I don't want to delete all of them. How can I move space from /home to '/'? Shall I use Diskdrake?? But how??? I did not find any documentation. Thanks alot -- Sebastian
[newbie] Space problem - help!
I installed Mandrake as the only OS on my PC with 2GB and used the standard settings. Now I have a space problem: there is no space left at all in directory '/' but 87% free in /home. I have lots of strange errors because of the space problem in '/'. Deleting some application did not help much, and I don't want to delete all of them. How can I move space from /home to '/'? Shall I use Diskdrake?? But how??? I did not find any documentation. Thanks alot -- Sebastian
[newbie] Configuring LAN connection....
hi. i log onto a LAN at syracuse university. how do i configure my connection to work? i have an 3com ethernet card. I found out how to get to the Network COnfig screen where i can enter my IP, default gateway and change stuff like that please help...what stuff do i need to know and how do i do it!! dan _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [newbie] kernel patch question - failed to patch
well if you're using patches from kernel.org it might be that they aren't liking the mandrake kernel rpms' :P that's the first idea, second ".config" is after you've configured a kernel, "save and exit" (on make xconfig) I hope that this gives you some sort of an idea, but I'm sure there are many more qualified users to answer this more clearly Adam - Original Message - From: "Russ Petruzzelli" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 2:06 AM Subject: [newbie] kernel patch question - failed to patch -=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= My first attempt to upgrade my kernel from 2.2.15 failed I downloaded patch-2.2.16.gz patch-2.2.17.gz and ran gzip -cd /work/kernelpatches/patch-2.2.16.gz | patch -p0from /usr/src. I got a ton of reject files and failed hunks. I also tried using ./scripts/patch-kernel. Same result. -=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= SYSTEM INFO. Currently running linux-mandrake 7.1. No special changes to the system made. -Originally installed from a CD and so far I've never installed a patch. Pentium 686 with 256 M memory. 13 Gigs of disk space. -=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I did make a copy of my original src directory and redirected my soft link to my future-new src. lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 12 Sep 24 21:13 linux - linux-2.2.17/ drwxr-xr-x 17 root root 4096 Sep 24 19:18 linux-2.2.15/ drwxr-xr-x 17 root root 4096 Sep 24 22:49 linux-2.2.17/ -rw-r--r--1 root root 1318138 Sep 24 21:37 patch-2.2.16.gz -rw-r--r--1 root root 888488 Sep 24 21:37 patch-2.2.17.gz So if I've screwed up 2.2.17, I can go back to 2.2.15 by redirecting my soft link -- right? -=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Some output (this was from my second try, thus the patch detected complaint): [root@bedrock src]# ./linux/scripts/patch-kernel Current kernel version is 2.2.15 Applying patch-2.2.16 (gzip)... Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Skipping patch. 4 out of 4 hunks ignored -- saving rejects to file CREDITS.rej Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Skipping patch. 2 out of 2 hunks ignored -- saving rejects to file Documentation/Changes.rej Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Skipping patch. 13 out of 13 hunks ignored -- saving rejects to file Documentation/Configure.help.rej Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Skipping patch. 11 out of 11 hunks ignored -- saving rejects to file Documentation/computone.txt.rej Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Skipping patch. 14 out of 14 hunks ignored -- saving rejects to file Documentation/kbuild/config-language.txt.rej Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Skipping patch. 9 out of 9 hunks ignored -- saving rejects to file Documentation/kernel-docs.txt.rej Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Skipping patch. 2 out of 2 hunks ignored -- saving rejects to file Documentation/networking/shaper.txt.rej Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Skipping patch. 4 out of 4 hunks ignored -- saving rejects to file Documentation/nfsroot.txt.rej The next patch would create the file Documentation/sound/ChangeLog.ymfsb, which already exists! Skipping patch. 1 out of 1 hunk ignored -- saving rejects to file Documentation/sound/ChangeLog.ymfsb.rej The next patch would create the file Documentation/sound/PSS-updates, which already exists! Skipping patch. 1 out of 1 hunk ignored -- saving rejects to file Documentation/sound/PSS-updates.rej The next patch would create the file Documentation/sound/README.ymfsb, which already exists! Skipping patch. 1 out of 1 hunk ignored -- saving rejects to file Documentation/sound/README.ymfsb.rej The next patch would create the file Documentation/sound/TODO.ymfsb, which already exists! Skipping patch. 1 out of 1 hunk ignored -- saving rejects to file Documentation/sound/TODO.ymfsb.rej Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Skipping patch. 5 out of 5 hunks ignored -- saving rejects to file Documentation/video4linux/README.cpia.rej Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Skipping patch. 1 out of 1 hunk ignored -- saving rejects to file Documentation/watchdog.txt.rej Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Skipping patch. 5 out of 5 hunks ignored -- saving rejects to file MAINTAINERS.rej 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file Makefile.rej The text leading up to this was: -- |diff -urN v2.2.15/linux/arch/alpha/boot/bootp.c linux/arch/alpha/boot/bootp.c |--- v2.2.15/linux/arch/alpha/boot/bootp.c Mon Aug 9 12:04:38 1999 |+++ linux/arch/alpha/boot/bootp.c Wed Jun 7 14:26:42 2000 -- File to patch:etc
