Re: [newbie-it] Volume di fuoco.
Luigi De Pascale wrote: Carissimi, questa mailing list ha gia' un volume di fuoco non indifferente. Sarebbe utile forse minimizzare i replay inutili. E.G. rispondere direttamente all'utente che si chiede se lo leggiamo che in effetti il suo mail si e' graziosamente deposto nel mailbox di un centinaio di persone. Saluti Luigi Forse si potrebbe pensare anche ad un messaggio periodico con FAQ e regole di comportamento (es. come ci si rimuove dalla lista) che serva a prevenire alcuni messaggi ricorrenti. ciao, andrea
[newbie-it] vecchia scheda video (x non va...?!?)
Salve, ho appena provato ad installare mandrake8, sembra andare tutto bene ma alla fine si blocca e non mi fa configurare x. se riavvio, il sistema parte, se dalla shell lancio Xconfigurator si blocca di nuovo... ho una sola idea, temporaneamente ho installato una s3virge molto vecchia con soli 2 mb di ram... puo' essere che e' cosi' vecchia che la mandrake non la riconosce?? grazie in anticipo dei suggerimenti ciao antonello
Re: [newbie] A note about user-friendliness
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 07:25, jennifer wrote: How is one to tell?? I mention that I recently came across the instructions on how to install the new fonts, but I haven't had the time yet to sit down and really understand them. From the advice I got in other groups, I can simply copy all the true type fonts from my windows machine (burn them if neccesary, I didn't think of doing that)and they were good to go on my linux box. Do you all see what I mean?? This is alot of trouble to go through just to be able to read the type face on the manufacturers website...You would think that Mandrake would cater to their own community and either include the Arial font, or compose their website in linux-readable format Mandrake cannot include Arial in their distro, since it is copyrighted by Monotype Corp (I believe). Their site is made for Helvetica, which is readily available for GNU/Linux. --- Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be careful to do this only for fonts which you have the legal right to use on other computers. Randy Kramer Salvatore Enrico Indiogine wrote: What I did was to burn the xxx fonts on a CD and install then on all MDK computers using the MDK font installer. Easy to do. = Jennifer Registered Linux User #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Logs!!
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:38, Franki wrote: Sure, it can be useful to anyone,, it has all the features of ext2, but alot more.. 1. it is faster, albiet not hugely so. ReiserFS is optimised for very small files, without compromising performance for larger files. It is also more space-efficient for small files. 2. It handles crashes and resets much better, ususally with no probs at all. (I have never had any at all.) Because of journalling, there is no need to fsck after a crash. ReiserFS filesystems are very durable. 3. It doesn't defrag at all, at least not enough to effect anything... ext2 does not require any defragmentation either, but it does require an fsck if you don't unmount it properly (e.g. you press your reset button). If they are not enough to justify use, I don't know what is.. There are some known issues when using ReiserFS on configurations using RAID and NFS. I don't know if these have been fully addressed as of yet. I have read that the 2.4.3 kernel used in LM8 has a few little ReiserFS problems such as these. For an ordinary desktop, however, things should be fine. I have been running ReiserFS for several months now with no trouble. For more info, take a look at http://www.namesys.com. as to where to get it... you aleady have it.. when you format your drives in mandrake setup. you can select reiserFS, instead of ext2.. if you do that, it will do everying else for you... Thats all there is too it... (I think there is also ext3, which is a similiar filesystem to reiserfs...but I have not tried it yet.) I'm not too knowledgeable on ext3, but AFAIK it is not yet as mature as ReiserFS and it does not have any speed/space advantages for small files. hope this helps regards Frank -Original Message- From: Charles A. Punch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2001 12:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Rules Address for MDK Subject: Re: [newbie] Logs!! ranki wrote: nope, reiserfs is a replacement for ext2.. its a new type of journaling filesystem... I am using it on my boxes,, it has some benefits, no defrag, and it remembers its good state, Would reiserfs have any advantage for a single user, or is it for networking? If so, where can I get it and please share any relevant info. Does it affect speed at all? My desktop box in it's current state runs pretty well (1.2ghz and 512 mb), but my laptop only has 80 mb of ram and is sharing 2gb with windows. It is actually pretty fast considering, but I am spoiled by my desktop and I am looking for anything that may speed it up. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user #217118 Windows eats itself -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Just one main page...
Sounds like you're proposing some kind of Mandrake knowledge base. This would be a good idea, since many questions are just repeats of previous questions. For the moment, we have both the newbie and expert mail archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/expert@linux-mandrake.com/ On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:45, Franki wrote: Hi all, Mandrake should make one main page, and on it,, put all the Very commonly asked questions on it...(or links) That way, we could all just quote the same page address when someone asks a question that has been asked a million times before... it should have the most current hardware issues, (like the 686 southbridge questions we keep seeing.) and stuff like, realplayer issues... the Nvidia drivers stuff like that,, and put a search facility on it,, I know most of that stuff is already available all over the place, but it would be much easier for newbies if they only had one page to go to(even if it links to hundreds of pages...) and it should be exclusive to mandrake, since the diversity of howtoo's doesn't favour one distro... Thats what I would do to help newbies if I worked for mandrake... (it could also be the default page or link that comes up in all the browsers available in the mdk installs...) yet another of my 10 cents worth... done it so much lately that I'm now broke.. :-) regards Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Rankin Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2001 8:51 AM To: mandrake Subject: Re: [expert] Lack of standards Tom Brinkman wrote: Until these inconsistencies are resolved, Linux will remain for hackers who time and knowledge to fix things so that they will run, and the common user will never get to reap the benefits os this otherwise wonderful operating system. On Monday 09 July 2001 10:02 am, M. Osten wrote: Do you really want persons that can not edit a text file running linux at all? I'm not prepared to try to support people that can barely hold a mouse. The whole Linux replacing Windows on the desktop is stupid...who cares. I use Linux because it works, I like using it. Amen. (see below) On a entirely diffrent flame fest. If this is the Mandrake expert mailing list, I hate to see what the newbie list is like. I recently re-subscribed after takin several months off. Nothin's changed, it's still dominated by those who want hand holding, obviously haven't made the slightest effort to research their problem, and many don't even think that learning to use Linux is, or even should be their responsibility. The majority also want to place blame and criticise the OS. They've never been willing to approach problems as user - hardware - and lastly the OS, any OS. A few are insistent and abusive also. Most have no idea of the difference between open and closed source soft/hardware, or want to be bothered. They blame Mandrake for their winmodem, aureal sound, or GeForce not being supported right out of the box. If I read but it works great with Windows one more time . Guess I need another break from the newbie list ;) I think I saw it explained most eloquently in a not to distant post. It was either here or on the samba list. It addressed the dramatic increase in the number and complexity (or lack thereof) in the variety of questions being posted. Largely the same issues addressed above. The rationalization of the dramatic increase was that: We are the victims of our own success With the installed user base of Linux experiencing a dramatic increase, the mailing lists become both the guiding light and the scapegoat for many users wanting in on the game. A large source of the frustration may stem from users that want to have their cake and eat it too. Meaning, that a new user may expect to have a rock solid Linux system install (which many do), and then also want to immediately upgrade to all the latest buttons, bells, whistles, kernels and the like at the same time without ever getting to know the basic install. The cure: KNOW YOUR SYSTEM FIRST, then incrementally incorporate the latest changes as required Linux is a very flexible and elegant OS and quite easy (although sometimes painful) to learn. Don't try to swallow the penguin all at once! The cup is half-full side to the Lack of Standards argument is the Rapid Progress being made and Healthy Competition Coupled with Enginuity within Linux development community. To call this a Lack of Standards is at best a misunderstanding of the open source concept and a worst a calculated issue spin doctored by our dear friends at M$. Gotta Go, my 2 yr. old needs some daddy time... -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. ASEL -- Instrument Nacogdoches, Texas N31 34.7 W094 42.6 355 MSL -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two
Re: [newbie] XFree 86 4.1.0????
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:05, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday 09 July 2001 01:40 pm, Cliff Gosden wrote: When I ran the program to check which binaries it said there were no binaries for this version (i.e LM8) so I didn't proceed. Cliff http://pclinuxonline.com/article.php?sid=75 Texstar is a good ol' TX Luser. He often makes major upgrades available much the same as Chris Molnar use to for KDE. I use a lot of cooker updates, but for major items like XFree, and between chasing failed dependencies and other snags ... it's a lot easier to let a hand like Texstar do it for you ;) I have been using Texstar's RPMs for quite some time now. His site, http://www.pclinuxonline.com, has some very good information on installing KDE 2.2 beta 1 from Cooker, and he has rebuilt the kdenetwork package to play nicer with LM8 systems. Newbies, Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with the latest version4.1.0 of Xfree 86? As I aluded to above, I've been usin Texstar's rebuilt Mandrake cooker rpms for over a month, no problems. I should say tho that he also has some newer 4.1 rpms, but they disable anti aliasing for 8 to 14 pt fonts. So I haven't bothered with those. ftp://ftp.eastwind.net/pub/mirrors/texstar/Xfree-4.1.0/ This behaviour (not anti-aliasing fonts between 8 and 14 pts) is standard in the XFree86 4.1 release. This (and other AA related stuff) can be adjusted in /etc/X11/XftConfig. I have full anti-aliasing for most fonts on my system. I have been using XFree86 4.1 from MandrakeFreq 2 for several weeks now and I can say it is great. It's a bit quicker than 4.0.3 and the AA fonts look much nicer. Of course, your graphics hardware has to support it, and version 4.1 has even greater hardware support than before. To anybody wishing to upgrade to XFree 4.1, I would recommend that you download and install at least the first CD of MandrakeFreq 2. I initially tried just upgrading the XFree RPMs to 4.1, but afterwards I couldn't start X. The Freq install fixed everything up :-) -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] IP aliasing
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:51, Chris Buxton wrote: I'm using Mandrake 8.0 as my NAT/DNS/HTTP/SMTP/etc. server. I have 4 addresses from my ISP, and two related questions. 1. How do I set up IP aliasing? In other words, how do I get my 4 public IP's configured on the public side of the machine? I've done this before in other Linux distributions, but it was a long time ago, and I remember it being a serious pain - I truly despise vi [whatever happened to pico?]. I don't see a way to do this with Linuxconf or the Mandrake Control Center. I don't really know how to solve your main problem (since I've never tried it myself), so I'll just say this. There are plenty of console text editors out there. GNU Nano is a GNU clone of Pico (which is not GPL). I personally am a big fan of Jed. 2. This question may be naive, but I had trouble with this with my last gateway machine. How do I make sure, if a network connection comes in on a secondary IP interface (eth0:1, for example), that the response will go out through that same interface? I don't want a connection to come in on one IP address and have the response go out from another, as this causes problems with delivery. To add to the fun, what if I offload a service to another machine and port-map the correct port(s) to that machine's IP address? How do I ensure that the response goes out through the correct public IP? I have problem giving the NAT sever multiple internal IP addresses to handle this sort of thing, and I don't mind adding multiple additional internal IP's to the internal server, if necessary - it's not like I could ever run out of internal IP addresses. I expect the answers to these questions will involve iptables, but so far I've been unable to grok this new system [is there any documentation for it, anywhere?]. I never had time to figure out ipchains, either, though it looked promising. Thanks in advance for any thoughts, be they solutions or not. Chris Buxton -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Glossary of linux-unix terms
¦b 2001 ¤C¤ë 7 ¬P´Á¤» 00:35¡AEdelmiro Guerra ¼g¹D: I'am a very newbie in linux. I will appreciate to advice me about a site in internet where to find a good glosary related with Linux-Unix terms (spanish english). I feel lost with some words or terms when I read how-to's and other info. Hi Edelmiro! I just saw your message. Did anyone reply to you yet? I am sorry: I don't know of any glossary that could be useful to you. I assume that you're speaking of technical/linux terminology (otherwise a good dictionnary would do!) 1- Have you tried to subscribe to a linux list in your own language? There certainly will be someone there who will be able to answer your questions and explain to you some of the English terms and even translate them into your own language. 2-Otherwise, you could tell us, on this list, which technical/linux terms have you puzzled. I am a beginner myself, but I'm sure I could explain some simple terms. Others would be here too to provide some explanations. 3- Do your homework, but don't hesitate to ask several times if your query is not replied to the first time (this is a busy list, and it's easy to overlook some messages). We are (almost all) beginners on this list, and we here both to learn and to help each other. Blessings, Anguo
Re: [newbie] Java no longer working(for chat)
¦b 2001 ¤C¤ë 7 ¬P´Á¤» 04:54¡AMarcia Waller ¼g¹D: Dear All, I was able until recently open up a chat help service for Peanut with Netscape that uses java. For no apparent reason it no longer works. It says it is opening the java applet then if fails. What could have caused this? How may I fix this? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Sincerely, Hi Marcia, has anyone been able to help you? I certainly won't because I know very little. Nobody seems to have replied yet: maybe you should ask again but try to give more details... err I don't know... like the version of the kernel and of your distro, which java version did you install, what did you do that could have influenced java... which browser do you use... Any message error appears? Can someone else help me to ask Marcia the relevant questions that will help her to solve her problem? Anguo
Re: [newbie] Java applets in Konqueror?
? 2001 ?? 10 ??? 14:12?Dr. Evil ??: Is there a way to get Konqueror to run Java applets, like chat applets? Thanks Yes, I did install java recently and used Konqueror to have a chat. Have you java installed? If yes, you just need to put java into your path, using root. (I found that putting the path in the konqueror settings did not work). Anguo.
Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft
I (being American from the Viet Nam era) have the answer to the war against Gates. we pack up, declare ourselves the winner, and not play anymore. we don't need to be against anyone. we just need to be FOR opensource. (imho) On Tuesday 10 July 2001 06:36, Len Lawrence wrote: On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, tazmun wrote: But regardless of whether she was a plant, she's abrasive, offensive, and utterly thankless to the Linux community as a whole. (Isolated thank yous on the list doesn't count.) And you sir are very close minded. You don't want to listen to new ideas and thinking if they don't fall into your narrow guidelines. I have reason to suspect that you would be perfectly happy if Linux remained an elite OS out of the reach of the average user putting yourself on some sort of pedestal. Sorry I don't deal well with snooty I'm better then you types. Judith gave the list some constructive criticism in hopes I'm sure that the right people might be listening. I distinctly remember her thanking the community for all the work that has been done and credited the community with developing a system with great potetial. Maybe not an exact quote but I think the meaning was close. All things change. They get better or get worse and/or die eventually. I believe the community knows this and realizes that Linux's future depends on innovation and new ideas and thinking. With that said I wouldn't be surprised if this community desires me to leave, but that's ok for I don't desire to be somewhere where speaking out for your convictions and ideas is not acceptable. Tazmun Dear tazmun Please don't leave the list. It is essential for the community of Linux users to accept criticism, constructive or otherwise, particularly from recent converts like Judith, and important to avoid complacency, and paranoia. Speaking for myself, it was refreshing to read those first posts from Judith, interesting to see how a deserter from the other camp actually views modern operating systems. As somebody else has pointed out, most PC users see Windows as the face of computers and most of them view computers as a commodity item like a VCR or television or games console. Their mindset is unlikely to change. What do they care about the niceties of Open Source, or free software versus commercial? There is no point in trying to reach them, and that is what will continue to fill Billy's coffers for a long time to come. Many of the diehard Linuxers like me come from a background which has exposed them to many different operating systems and many different ways of applying computers; business, technical, realtime and embedded systems and so on. With 39 years involvement in computers behind me I could never take Windows seriously. It was a toy operating system, but like GNU/Linux has evolved and should now perhaps be regarded as a real operating system. However, I shall always loathe it. I found the interface ugly and awkward to use, counter-intuitive to someone with a long history of command line operations. There seem to be a lot of Linux users who would take the opposite viewpoint - witness the popularity of KDE - so Linux obviously has the potential to please former Windows users, with the added bonus of far more freedom and choice. rant That last point, choice, is another reason why I detest Microsoft and all its hangers on. Gates started a bandwagon rolling which started to gather momentum ten years ago. Software houses jumped on it but were too lazy, ignorant, or greedy to consider providing support for alternative operating systems when they became viable. The business world in particular seemed only too eager to go along with a company whose obvious intention was to take over the world by imposing its own standards on everybody, to strangle all competition, and fleece the punters. Linux does allow choice, but many doors are still closed to it - it is continually being sidelined. For instance, the Encyclopaedia Britannica will never be available for Unix* systems. The UK Ordnance Survey likewise. I would have bought them. The same applies to much educational software and language courses. Writing to these companies does no good - they simply bin the letters. /rant So please bear with us. As you have probably noted, there are many shades of opinion amongst Linux users and developers on almost every subject. That is why it sometimes appears to lurch forward rather than evolve smoothly. There are internal threats to the OS, like forking and the multitude of distributions, so the developers have to divert some of their energies from the war against Gates.
[newbie] Procmail
I just noticed that procmail on my workstations has died. Suddenly, and unexpectedly. I was looking at mail in my in box this morning and noticed that it should have been in another folder. So I check the procmail.log, and the last time it was edited was on June 29th. Two weeks ago or so. I haven't installed anything new on the machine... that I know of at least. My .procmailrc hasn't changed, and the permissions are just fine. [timh@r2d2 timh]$ ls -la .procmailrc -rw-r--r--1 timh timh 2125 Jul 10 07:11 .procmailrc But it's not making an edit to the $HOME/mail/procmail.log that it's told to do in the headers of the .procmailrc. PATH=/usr/bin/procmail # Procmail Path MAILDIR=$HOME/mail # You'd better make sure it exists DEFAULT=/var/mail/timh # Default mailbox LOGFILE=/home/timh/mail/procmail.log LOCKFILE=/home/timh/mail/.lockmail Since it seems sendmail sends mail through procmail, and then it's filtered, instead of having to create a .forward like is needed in FreeBSD and other UNIX OS', I was thinking maybe I need to restart sendmail. Yet there's no sendmail in /etc/init.d/ like there is for postfix. Has anybody run into this? Or have an idea of how to resolve this? tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! Uptime: 7:07AM up 5 days, 10:14, 7 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00 Your Fortune Green light in a.m. for new projects. Red light in P.M. for traffic tickets.
Re: [newbie] deleting contents of a file
Craig-- Many people suggested removing the file and then recreating a new empty file. While not difficult, that does take a little more time. Your method is much simpler and very quick. I just tried it on a log file and it works great. Can anyone give me a reason why this method might cause problems? Well, it's just been pointed out that it doesn't actually EMPTY the file per se. It actually creates a one-byte file. I believe that the 'echo' command prints the string argument given it, plus a newline on the end. That newline gets into the new file, so you actually have a file that isn't empty, but contains a single newline character. As long as you don't actually need this file to be totally emptied to zero bytes, and don't mind a blank line at the top of the file, this should work fine. I haven't seen the permissions issue that Jose mentions at all, in all my fooling with this the permissions are preserved. So maybe he's seeing something we're not. -- Dan Ray Director Custom Applications Triangle Research, Inc. http://www.triangleresearch.com
Re: [newbie] deleting contents of a file
JOse-- #tail oldfile oldfile Clever! Although, of course, the question was EMPTYING the file, not cutting it down to the last 10 ines... Actually, I don't see why redirecting output from tail would have any different effect on the target file than redirecting output from echo. Shouldn't both be simple stdout redirects into oldfile? Shouldn't both have the same effect on oldfile's permissions? -- Dan Ray Director Custom Applications Triangle Research, Inc. http://www.triangleresearch.com
Re: [newbie] MODEM CONFIGURATION
Raberto, What kind of modem do you have and what is the name of the driver that you have? We need some more information in order to help you. Don --- Roberto del Bosque Gómez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone can help me? I have linux Mandrake 7.2 installed in my computer... I have a winmodem, but it have drivers to work in linux... The problem is that I don´t know how install it and how configure it. Please help. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] CHEAP modem
I have used US Robotics External Sporster 33.6 and they work fine--off ebay about $20.00 and have found that the USR INTERNAL Sporster 33.6 ISA modem configures automatically and works really good too. (was a nice suprise for me.) Anyway---those are the only ones I have used and both were bought for less than $20. -- Dave Registered Linux User #204085 M$ is not the answer. M$ is the question. The answer is NO! Running Mandrake 7.2-on a M$ free PC. On Tuesday 10 July 2001 02:11, you wrote: i would just like to hear of some recommendation on a very very CHEAP modem that may work fine in mandrake 7.2 thx! Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1; name=Attachment: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
[newbie] System logs overflowing with 'gconfd' messages.
Hi, My syslog, messages, loginlog user.log files are being logged constantly with entrys related to 'gconfd'. This is a sample from '/usr/log/messages': Jul 10 17:50:19 localhost gconfd (rod-1513): Failed to notify listener 385876639, removing: IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 I don't know what 'gconfd' is, or why these messages are being continuously logged, but they're slowly consuming the free space on my '/' partition. Thanks for any advise, regards, Charlie.
Re: [newbie] deleting contents of a file
* Dan Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010710 06:14]: Well, it's just been pointed out that it doesn't actually EMPTY the file per se. It actually creates a one-byte file. I believe that the 'echo' command prints the string argument given it, plus a newline on the end. That newline gets into the new file, so you actually have a file that isn't empty, but contains a single newline character. As long as you don't actually need this file to be totally emptied to zero bytes, and don't mind a blank line at the top of the file, this should work fine. I haven't seen the permissions issue that Jose mentions at all, in all my fooling with this the permissions are preserved. So maybe he's seeing something we're not. As Ray says, the echo myfile method works fine regarding ownership and permissions, but leaves a newline in the file. If you want a zero-length file, why not: echo -n myfile this tells 'echo' not to follow the (empty) string with a newline, so the resulting file is zero length. I just tested this on Mdk 8.0 to be sure. -- Jan Wilson, SysAdmin _/*]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Corozal Junior College | |:' corozal.com corozal.bz Corozal Town, Belize | /' chetumal.com linux.bz Reg. Linux user #151611 |_/ Network, SQL, Perl, HTML
Re: [newbie] deleting contents of a file
Jan-- echo -n myfile this tells 'echo' not to follow the (empty) string with a newline, so the resulting file is zero length. Aha! Just what I didn't know I was looking for! This command is my new nominee for best way to do it. -- Dan Ray Director Custom Applications Triangle Research, Inc. http://www.triangleresearch.com
[newbie] Question about virtual web stes and DNS
I setup up some virtual web sites on my machine at home port forwarded 80 and tested the virtual web sites at home from work. It worked great, only I had to map the web sites in my local hosts file at work. How would this work if you had a domain name? Let's say that I had a domain name: www.myhouse.com, and that I setup some virtual web sites: http://hobbies.myhouse.com and http://linux.myhouse.com, would those names have to be put into the public DNS system, or would the myhouse.com get resolved to my linux server, and the apache resolve the rest of the name? Does it make sense what I'm asking?
Re: [newbie] Re: Run My KMail While Logged Under Root?
I agree with Sridhar completely! If you've ever installed your machine with high security, you can't even login with a Windows Manager with the root user. The only time I've done it, has been to compile kernels, and the machine was NOT on the Internet. I do a su - for maybe 10 or 15 minutes a day. I do that for 6 different machines as I check the root mailbox, and install a program, or edit a config file. I write a lot of scripts as well. 99% of them have been across the board scripts that could be used by any user, but you can still write a script and possibly test it with out being the root user. But again, Sridhar is correct, root in essence is the computing god.You can do anything you want. If you're on line and logged into root, that tty port can be taken over and a random user who's walked in the backdoor now has access to god. Some of this may be a SysAdmin's parania, but at the same time I've been with companies that was hacked by a rookie hacker. Had he been a veteran cracker, the company would have literally been screwed! All the damage he did could have been avoided had the SysAdmin not left several root logins on the machine. Something he was warned about. But since I wasn't a SysAdmin at the time, I didn't know what I was talking about. But to say it's so easy to have root access to your machine, that's an even better reason to login as a user, then from there su - to root to do the work you need to do and then log out. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! Uptime: 9:24AM up 5 days, 12:31, 3 users, load averages: 0.04, 0.05, 0.00 | As a sysadmin, you should know the dangers of logging-in as root. Root gives | god-like access to the machine, and accessing the Internet as root is just | asking for trouble. When you use the Internet, you are announcing your | presence to the world. If you are root, then anyone who manages to break into | your system (which is much easier when you're root) will also have god-like | access. Because of this, it is best to minimise the time you spend as root, | and to limit your permissions to only as much as you require. This can be | achieved with a combination of su, kdesu and sudo from an ordinary user | account. | | | On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 09:37, RahOoh wrote: | If its so easy to have root capabilities, why not just log on as root? | I work as a system administrator and I always log on as root, and so do my | peers. Perhaps this is because we write scripts all the time, but I have no | problems. Just my point of view. | Dan B | | Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: | Curtis, | | I must ask why you have the need to log on as root. There should be | absolutely no need for it (it's a security risk). One of the best ways to | accomplish a task that requires root privileges (e.g. | installing/uninstalling software, changing configs, etc.) is to su into a | root terminal. To do this, simply open a terminal and type su. Enter | your root password and from then on everything in the terminal is done as | root. Everything outside the terminal will be done as your user. Remember | to close (or log out of) the terminal as soon as you're done, to minimise | the time you leave your system open. Also, take a look at kdesu (part | of KDE -- look in the KDE help for details) and sudo (a separate package | but on your Mandrake CDs). These make running root tasks from within a | user account even easier. | | One thing you mentioned below is your use of the Ctrl + Alt + Backspace | key combo to log out. This is supposed to be for emergencies only, | similar to Ctrl + Alt + Del in Windows. If you wish to log-off, you | should use the log-off function in your environment of choice (kind of | like shutting-down X). When this is done, you can log-in again, | shut-down your computer (using the menu option), or reboot (again, using | the appropriate menu option). Failure to do these things may may result | in ruin to your system. -- Your Fortune They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!
Re: [newbie] Question about virtual web stes and DNS
At 08:30 AM 07/10/2001 -0500, Mark Johnson wrote: I setup up some virtual web sites on my machine at home port forwarded 80 and tested the virtual web sites at home from work. It worked great, only I had to map the web sites in my local hosts file at work. How would this work if you had a domain name? Let's say that I had a domain name: www.myhouse.com, and that I setup some virtual web sites: http://hobbies.myhouse.com and http://linux.myhouse.com, would those names have to be put into the public DNS system, or would the myhouse.com get resolved to my linux server, and the apache resolve the rest of the name? Does it make sense what I'm asking? Yes, it makes sense...and yes, any virtual-hosted websites must be in the dns system as aliases to the IP in question (as it states somewhere in the apache config files). If they aren't, other nameservers will have no way of resolving them. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida
Re: [newbie] What can I get rid of in '/var' ?
Michael wrote: Another place to check is /tmp which is where all kinds of temporary files get dumped. Is it okay to get rid of everything in /tmp, or are some of those files needed or supposed to be there? I found stuff in there and I'd just as soon get rid of it, but I left it alone because I don't want to make a bad mistake. --Judy Miner
Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft
The idea that I am a Microsoft employee or a plant infiltrating this list gave me the best laugh I've had in a long time. Especially since I've done nothing else for the past three weeks but try to get a good, working Linux system in hopes that I will never again have to spend my not-abundant money on anything from Bill Gates' company. The only Microsoft software on my computers that I paid for is Windows itself. There is also no pirated Microsoft software. I have Microsoft Works on my laptop, but that's because the laptop came with it and it provides a spell checker used by other applications. I don't like Works and don't use it. I have no Office, no Word, no FrontPage, no Money, no Publisher. Oh yes--I do have Encarta. It was free after a rebate, so I figure Microsoft lost money on that one. Some of you think I'm negative about and critical of Linux. That's because you haven't heard my complaints about Microsoft and Windows.g As with just about everything of this nature on the Net, you don't post messages about stuff that's working well, you post about your problems. In fact, there is a lot I like about Linux and some things about which I'm wildly enthusiastic. I intend to stick with it for the duration. I also agree that it is getting friendlier all the time, and while it has a ways to go, it's headed in the right direction. I am also quite amused that anyone thinks I have some profound knowledge of networking. Just because I can use terms like NetBEUI, TCP/IP, and NetBIOS does not mean I understand anything about them. NetBEUI and TCP/IP are networking protocols. TCP/IP is what you use for the Internet but it can also be used for a LAN. NetBEUI is only for a small LAN; you can't use it for the Internet. I don't know what NetBIOS is, but I know it's not supposed to be enabled for a protocol that gets you on the Internet. For a NetBEUI home network, each workgroup has to have a name and each computer in the workgroup has to have a name. You have to enable file and printer sharing for drives and printers you want available over the network. That is the total of my knowledge of networking. I learned the little I know primarily from grc.com, which explains how to set up your protocols and bindings properly--by default, Windows makes a mess of this. I didn't use Microsoft's wizards to set up my two-computer network. Instead, I got good, easy instructions from some PC magazine's Web site. So the secret is out. I do not have any detailed knowledge of networking. When I say I don't understand the stuff I read about Linux networking, I really don't! Not a clue. I do not know how to make a system safe, but if someone gives me good directions, I can follow them. I am totally puzzled by this post of Roman's: I have been following Judith Miner's email posts since 1996 through the her Wordstar postings on another news group. It appears that she is not new to the Microsoft Windows OS. This goes back as far as Windows 3.11 and DOS. I don't know if she is really who she says she is... but she has been pi**ssing off at lot of people over the years. She is well known through other newsgroups. I'm well known through other newsgroups??? I don't recall ever posting anything to newsgroups. In fact, I haven't read Usenet newsgroups in years. The only newsgroups I've read in the past two years have been on the Adobe and Corel sites, and I just lurked, I didn't post. I am an active member of the WordStar users' support e-mail list. If Roman is a member, I don't recall seeing any messages he has posted. The only people on that list that I've p*ssed off are two Microsoft boosters. One of them has actually waited in line outside a store waiting for the next release of Windows and the other is constantly lauding the wonders of Microsoft Word--this on a WordStar list. So two makes a lot of people? I have received numerous personal e-mails of thanks from WordStar List members whose problems I was able to solve, and have even received e-mails from people who found the answer to their questions in the List archives. In the spirit of volunteerism, I have written a book called WordStar for Windows How-To, which can be downloaded for no charge from the Web sites of the WordStar group and of some of our members. So it comes as news to me that I'm well known through other newsgroups. Of course I'm not new to the Microsoft OS. I go back to DOS 3-something in 1987. I identified myself as an experienced and proficient Windows user when I first posted on this List. Of course, someone had to come up with a crack that proficient Windows users usually weren't. All I can tell you is that I run a lot of demanding programs in the areas of writing, page design and layout, and graphics, as well as general office stuff, I have never had a virus or worm, and I've never had to reinstall Windows because it got messed up beyond salvaging. I'm not trying to dump Windows because I have stability or security problems with it, but because I don't
Re: [newbie] mouse in X
On Sunday 01 July 2001 05:40, Willy Sutrisno wrote: Have you tried mousedrake? I didnt install it, and may i know whats the use of that prog. oh ya, by the way. if I shutdown the x server and press the startx command again, my mouse will work fine. only when I load X at the first time after the boot process, thEn my mouse will go crazy. Do you have a PS/2 mouse? I've had horrible problems with them -- they go out of control in the same way you describe, if not configured correctly. Basically, you have to decide whether it is a PS/2 or IMPS/2 (Intellimouse? or compatible) mouse and say so in /etc/X11/XF86Config or /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. If you get the wrong one then you get funny (and annoying) mouse behaviour. I may be wrong but I guess it's worth a try :) - George
Re: [newbie] Help~! Help~!
On Saturday 23 June 2001 01:31, Wing Min Ho wrote: Help Me! 1. when i 1st time install Linux Mandrake 7.1, i got no problem. But i dont know how to uninstall it. There are several ways to do this -- here's one: You need a partition tool such as DOS' fdisk or Partition Magic or even Linux's fdisk or diskdrake. Use one of these to erase all your mandrake 7.1 partitions (of course, the linux ones may not help in this situation as you cannot erase the root filesystem while you are using it etc.!). DOS FDisk, however, may have trouble deleting your linux partitions. Assuming that you have finally gotten rid of all the linux partitions, type fdisk /mbr at a DOS prompt/command line. 2. Then i try to install Linux Mandrake 7.2, it still can work. But there is a problem, i dont' want Linux as a default OS (I have Windows 98 that is still in the hard disk) Unfortunately, i dont' know how to set the default. If you are using a boot manager called GRUB, I don't know. If you are using LILO, then you can edit /etc/lilo.conf and then run lilo afterwards. You could also try the program klilo in KDE. Note that you have to be root to do any of these things. If you are going to use the edit /etc/lilo.conf method, then put the line default=Windows98 (without the quotes) in it, assuming your entry other=/dev/hda1 had a line immediately before or after it looking like label=Windows98. 3. After i install Linux Mandrake 7.2, and i had done something in the LILO (i dont' know what i had done what to the LILO). When i started my computer, then i got this message Stage1 Geom Error. No thing moving in my computer. Did you enable/disable LBA or some obscure disk option? Only a guess. 4. Then i try to install Linux Red Hat 6.2(may be is chinese version). (While installing Linux, I had some time reset my computer.) When i reinstall the Linux Mandrake 7.2, my computer had hanged two time(because i install it two times.) Err... 5. Now the problem is here, my hole hdd can't read. i use msdos for fdisk it but cant'. At last, i use Red Hat 7.2 to format my hdd. Now my hdd is about 2GB. My hdd capacity is about 8GB. Err again... Q1: How to reset my hdd to 8 GB? Could you send me the output of cat /proc/partitions? Q2: Why the 'State1 Geom Error' out, nothing is moving to my computer? don't know, sorry... Q3: How to set my sound card so that i can listen music? If you are using OSS (very likely), then run the command sndconfig as root. You should avoid running it X (or so the warning says!) but it runs fine for me in X. If you are using ALSA, I point you to www.alsa-project.org :) - George
Re: [newbie] Installed Kaspersky Anti-Virus program - How do you enable it?
Frank, For some reason, I was typing in: updatedb Thanks for the info, Roman Franki wrote: type locate AvpDaemon if your locate db has updated lately, it will tell you where the file is,, then go there, and type,,, ./AvpDaemon that would probably do the trick... regards Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Romanator Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2001 9:01 AM To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] Installed Kaspersky Anti-Virus program - How do you enable it? Hi everybody, This is in reference to the rpm installation of the Kaskpersky Anti Virus program. For some reason it does not append itself to the menu bar. More importantly, how do I know that it is running? According to the Readme.txt file, at the command prompt, I'm supposed to type in: AvpDaemon [option] and so on. However, Bash does not recognize the command. What am I doing wrong? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
Re: [newbie] What can I get rid of in '/var' ?
You can configure LILO to delete everything in /tmp on startup, so I'd have to assume it's a a standard convention to only put disposable files (for lack of a better term) in there. I have that LILO option set, and so far, so good. Miark - Original Message - From: Judith Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] What can I get rid of in '/var' ? Michael wrote: Another place to check is /tmp which is where all kinds of temporary files get dumped. Is it okay to get rid of everything in /tmp, or are some of those files needed or supposed to be there? I found stuff in there and I'd just as soon get rid of it, but I left it alone because I don't want to make a bad mistake. --Judy Miner
Re: [newbie] install on NTFS
Both the mouse and keyboard are USB, but it is a desktop not a laptop. So are you saying that I won't be able to use Mandrake 7.2? I now need to get a copy of 8.0? On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 06:38:28 +, civileme wrote: On Tuesday 10 July 2001 00:35, Greg Partin wrote: I'm running Windows 2000 Server on my machine now so I believe that I cannot use linx4win. Is this true? The only 2 options are to use NTFS and FAT when installing Windows 2000 Server. I'm having a really difficult time with the installation on top of this. Whenever I try the graphical installation the mouse does not work and whenever I try the text installation the keyboard does not work. I looked at the BIOS to see if there was anywhere to turn of Plug 'n Play but I don't seem to have an option (is it called something else that I may not know?). Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you, Greg OK now the question makes more sense. Linux uses its own filesystem, called ext2, and effectively hides from Windows. All it needs is some room on the disk. 7.2 and 8.0 will make their own partitions by shrinking a FAT32 partition if it can be shrunken, and install invisibly to windows, so you need the FAT32 OR you need to install on just part of the disk and leave the rest unpartitioned, then linux will create its own partitions on the rest of the disk. That is, you need to do that if you wish to use linux. Another alternative is to add a disk, and leave it unformatted. Do you have USB mouse and keyboard? or PS/2 keyboard and USB mouse? Is this a laptop? If your answer is yes for any of these, then 8.0 is more likely to work, but even then you may need to make a floppy from one of the alternate install images on the 8.0 CD. Many hardware standards are changing, and we try to keep images around to deal with the combinations of old and new that pop up. Naturally, in windows, with the drivers written by the hardware manufacturers, this is not a problem, but in linux, with the drivers generally written by reverse engineering, it is. That situation is getting better as more manufacturers either part with information or write linux drivers and make them open-source. And yes lnx4win will not work on win2k. Civileme On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 02:21:23 +, civileme wrote: On Monday 09 July 2001 19:27, Greg Partin wrote: Hi folks, Is it possible to install Mandrake 7.2 on a system with NTFS as its file allocation method? If not, is it possible to switch to FAT without having to reinstall everything? Thanks and much obliged. Greg The NTFS filesystem, no. It is proprietary and secret and our best drivers just read and (experimenatlly write to it) It is possible to do a system with FAT, but a very bad idea. ext2 keeps fragmentation low by design, and doesn't use a defragmenter, and there are none currently available under linux for FAT32, and , as often as linux hits the disk with small (less than 1k) files, FAT32 would be overwhelmed and severely fragmented in just a day or two. Windows would directly see those partitions and complain that they were malformed or contained corrupt data and some wizard would likely offer to fix them. Or windows would flat refuse to boot on a dual boot system because all the corrupt filesystems would first have to be formatted. You can achieve a similar effect by using lnx4win. Civileme ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Greg Partin 3848 Lyons Rd. apt#204 Coconut Creek, FL 33073 (954) 957-9137 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Greg Partin 3848 Lyons Rd. apt#204 Coconut Creek, FL 33073 (954) 957-9137 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
Re: [newbie] Thank you Civileme
I'm not usually a me too poster, but I feel this is important. Civileme has done a wonderful job for Linux-Mandrake and for GNU/Linux as a whole. The community participation of MandrakeSoft employees like Civileme, Deno (maintainer of MandrakeForum) and Tom (maintainer of MandrakeUser) is simply amazing. When I started using GNU/Linux (Caldera) in 1999 I was overwhelmed by this community atmosphere. I joined this Newbie list soon after installing Mandrake 7.0 in early 2000. I have learnt a tremendous amount from this list, and I sincerely thank all its participants. On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:36, Anguo wrote: ? 2001 ?? 10 ??? 02:41?Romanator ??: Miark wrote: The Linux community (and especially the Newbie Mandrake community) requires an attitude support, cooperation, and thankfulness. attitude support cooperation thankfulness :-) worth repeating! What attracted me to Linux is much more than an OS that is better and much more stable and performant than Microsoft's. The community spirit, the attitude of giving something of oneself, sharing, for the benefit of the whole community is at least as important to me as the technical superiority of Linux. Thank you all for being part of the community. To miss on any of these three things just drags us down, and introduces FUD. We don't need that, and as Civileme did so skillfully, we need to set it straight when it creeps in. Bravo, Civileme. Ditto. Miark ? 2001 ?? 10 ??? 02:41?Romanator ??: I second that. Good feedback from Civileme. Hang in there, you're doing a great job. Ditto. I am a complete newbie to Linux. I received a lot of help already and help in turn when I can (not much so far...). I have been on this list for about 2/3 weeks only but one thing that impressed me is the vaste encyclopedic technical knowledge that Civileme posseses. Thank you Civileme (and everyone else) for all your expertise and your sharing spirit. Anguo -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] mutli platform html editor]
On Monday 09 July 2001 20:52, you wrote: Michael, Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, your example doesn't really address what I was trying to ask about. Maybe the easiest way for me to express myself would be to build on your example (in words). I'm viewing your page at 800x600. If you were to put a very long preformatted line into the right hand side (2000 characters, for the sake of argument), would the other text wrap at the width of the window, or would lines only wrap if they exceeded the length of the 2000 line character? I'd like to find a way to force the wrap to occur at the normal size of the window, and only have to horizontally scroll for the one preformatted 2000 character line. (Maybe preformatted isn't the right word. On TWiki I can create such a line by enclosing it in pre /pre tags -- I'm not even sure that is real HTML.) Randy the example I showed you yesterday fixes this, just use tables with a fixed pixel width without using the % option and for the text inside have a no wrap tag. This way no matter what the user does with the browser ie resizing, your fonts will not re-wrap and the tables will remain the same size with-out resizing. -- Steve
Re: [newbie] lilo probs
Did you make a floppy boot disk when you installed Linux on the box? If so, boot with that, then log in as root, type lilo Enter and Bob's your uncle. If you don't have a boot disk... someone else will need to help here. Miark - Original Message - From: mike.roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 5:55 PM Subject: [newbie] lilo probs OK Not strictly a newbie but I have got a clue on this one. Theres a box with 10gig windoze98 and 10gig spare I installed linux mandrake 8 on the box for a collegue and took the day off When I came back hed reinstalled windows (prat!) and overwritten lilo so he cant boot into linux. Not a problem I can just reinstall linux... But this wasts shed loads of work hes already done on the OS nad code hes writting. How can I just reinstall Lilo? I used the default FS option! Any help would be very well recieved Mike
Re: [newbie] PPPOE/Roaring Penguin/Network card
Well, I hope you have a winbox to use that D-Link in. It is one of our bad list. It appears to work and detects well but never actually transmits. I have two of them here in testing, and everything that can be done for thsm has been done. Civileme Yeah, i've got win98 and 2k on this system on top of mdk8, so i'm not at any real loss of an internet connection, just at a loss of one under Linux... Maybe i'll see if i can pick up a different nic while at work today. What is the brand recommendation for a network card under linux, if there is one? Realtek? 3com? Intel? lemme know which ones are recommended. Thx
[newbie] Copying/Pasting in Konsole
Hey Guys and Gals - Mandrake 7.2 I'm a tad embarrassed asking this question, as it seems like it would be obvious enough. Regardless, I can't seem to find a way to copy and paste information from the prompt in Konsole to another application. I notice that many of you do just that when citing file permissions and things from terminal, but how? I have Klipper active, and a Ctrl-C on highlighted text in Konsole places the text on the Klipper clipboard; but Ctrl-V doesn't paste it in another application (i.e. KMail or Netscape Messenger), and I can't find anything in the Klipper help files to suggest that I'm an idiot... Suggestions would be great. Thanks, Tim Glinatsis -- Timothy W. Glinatsis Unemployed Graduate Student Massachusetts Institute of Technology AIM: oAREDOo ICQ: 7854561
Re: [newbie] graphics display 800x600
Brandon: First, when posting to this list, please turn the HTML off -- it is very difficult to read in many mail readers. Now to the point: Give us some more information, please. What version of Mandrake? What version of XFree? Will your video card do 1024 x 768? What resolution? -- cmg Brandon Caudle wrote: what is the command to force the display to display at 1024*768 i tweaked the config file but no help (6.0) and no i won't upgrade because this is a 486 and i just got a bigger monitor and i want it smaller its just a samba server for a remote office Thanks Brandon
Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft
Judith, If this is the case then please accept my sincerest apologies for the bulk of what I have said (although I haven't really said much :-) ). I still get the feeling, however, that you are annoyed that GNU/Linux is not Windows. Fine, it may not be quite as user-friendly, but it is still a work in progress -- you do appear to recognise this. As I and others have posted earlier, different people have very different notions on what user-friendliness and intuitiveness is. Some people prefer how the command line works, some prefer Windows, some prefer MacOS 9, some prefer MacOS X, some prefer GNOME, some prefer KDE... The list goes on and on. Each *nix GUI project has it's own goals and target audience. While it may look like KDE and GNOME, for example, are trying to lure Windows users, they are doing it in different ways. They are both very respectable environments, and both are very usable, but in different ways. When switching to anything new, one must keep an open mind -- otherwise there is no point. Your special character (e.g. cedilla) problem is interesting. Microsoft tries its best to blur the distinction between elements in its OS, as Civileme has noted. In GNU/Linux, on the other hand, packages and elements are clear-cut and well-defined. Civileme appeared to be annoyed that many people blame the entire OS for little problems like this, when the fault (if it is a fault) usually lies with an individual package. I agree with his statement. However, I'm not sure where the best place would be for a special character feature. Perhaps it is a problem with XFree86? I know that MS also makes available an option for using US International keyboards, yet still provides an across-the-board function (using Alt) for special characters. I realise that character sets vary across character sets (e.g. ASCII and Unicode) -- could this be an issue here? Note that this problem is different from the em-dashes and smart-quotes that you can get in MS Word. You obviously have done some homework when it comes to attempting to solve your problems. However, I still cannot excuse your assertions that logging in as root is harmless. This has got to be the *worst* thing you can do. You speak as if you know much about network (and remember that the Internet is also a network) security yet you claim that your Windows box is safe. I must say that your idea of encouraging people to log in as root and then having bad things may happen if you do this messages is simply preposterous (for technical reasons). I do not blame you for this, though. This your first (AFAIK) crack at a secure multi-user OS, and this new paradigm would understandably be a bit bewildering and confusing at first. Civileme has already dispelled the open ports myths, so I shall not revisit that. My bottom-line is that GNU/Linux is a different OS, with different ways of doing things. If it ever becomes a mainstream user-friendly OS, it will not be user-friendly in the same way that MacOS or Windows is. There are different ways of doing things, and one must keep an open mind in order to learn them. For example, your annoyance with typing the root password over and over can be safely circumvented with user permissions, su, kdesu and sudo (as I have repeated endlessly over the past few weeks). I intend all this as constructive criticism, not as an insult or a flame. You are obviously not a troll, and I can sympathise with many of your views. On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 00:13, Judith Miner wrote: The idea that I am a Microsoft employee or a plant infiltrating this list gave me the best laugh I've had in a long time. Especially since I've done nothing else for the past three weeks but try to get a good, working Linux system in hopes that I will never again have to spend my not-abundant money on anything from Bill Gates' company. The only Microsoft software on my computers that I paid for is Windows itself. There is also no pirated Microsoft software. I have Microsoft Works on my laptop, but that's because the laptop came with it and it provides a spell checker used by other applications. I don't like Works and don't use it. I have no Office, no Word, no FrontPage, no Money, no Publisher. Oh yes--I do have Encarta. It was free after a rebate, so I figure Microsoft lost money on that one. Some of you think I'm negative about and critical of Linux. That's because you haven't heard my complaints about Microsoft and Windows.g As with just about everything of this nature on the Net, you don't post messages about stuff that's working well, you post about your problems. In fact, there is a lot I like about Linux and some things about which I'm wildly enthusiastic. I intend to stick with it for the duration. I also agree that it is getting friendlier all the time, and while it has a ways to go, it's headed in the right direction. BIG SNIP it looks weird to me that she doesn't know how to get the
Re: [newbie] Java no longer working(for chat)
On Tuesday 10 July 2001 06:37, Anguo wrote: ¦b 2001 ¤C¤ë 7 ¬P´Á¤» 04:54¡AMarcia Waller ¼g¹D: Dear All, I was able until recently open up a chat help service for Peanut with Netscape that uses java. For no apparent reason it no longer works. It says it is opening the java applet then if fails. What could have caused this? How may I fix this? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Sincerely, Hi Marcia, has anyone been able to help you? I certainly won't because I know very little. Nobody seems to have replied yet: maybe you should ask again but try to give more details... err I don't know... like the version of the kernel and of your distro, which java version did you install, what did you do that could have influenced java... which browser do you use... Any message error appears? Can someone else help me to ask Marcia the relevant questions that will help her to solve her problem? Anguo Dear Anguo and All, Thank you for your concern and help. It looks like I will try Konqueror instead. I just have to find out how to set it up for Konqueror now. My desktop runs LM8 . I installed jre 1.3.1 or something like that. I think there is a new one to download and I probably will get that one. My Phex works just fine with the Java I downloaded before. Hmmm. If I get the newer Java will I need to do an upgrade install with it for things to work right? Java was tricky for me to set up the first time. I will give the new one a try. Thanks for your help. Sincerely, Marcia -- Marcia Waller
Re: [newbie] Java no longer working(for chat)
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/jre/ http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/ (it's in there somewhere...) Both Sun's and IBM's Java runtime environments work very well with Konqueror. Sun's JRE has a plug-in that you can use to replace Netscape's Java. On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 02:14, Dr. Evil wrote: Java in Netscape is quite buggy and crash-prone. I suggest you configure Java for Mozilla or Konqueror and use that. These use an external runtime environment that is far better than Netscape's internal one. Where do we get this external java runtime? It would be very convenient to have java with Konq. Btw, you are right, netscape crashes all the time. I didn't even bother to install it. It should be taken out of the default installation, IMHO. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Thank you Civileme
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Civileme has done a wonderful job for Linux-Mandrake and for GNU/Linux as a whole. and I sincerely thank all its participants. Me too. Randy Kramer
RE: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft
Hmmm, interesting, as a relatively disinterested reader of this correspondence I nevertheless found myself interested enough to check with deja-news... I am totally puzzled by this post of Roman's: I have been following Judith Miner's email posts since 1996 through the her Wordstar postings on another news group. It appears that she is not new to the Microsoft Windows OS. This goes back as far as Windows 3.11 and DOS. I don't know if she is really who she says she is... but she has been pi**ssing off at lot of people over the years. She is well known through other newsgroups. I'm well known through other newsgroups??? I don't recall ever posting anything to newsgroups. In fact, I haven't read Usenet newsgroups in years. The only newsgroups I've read in the past two years have been on the Adobe and Corel sites, and I just lurked, I didn't post. It makes for an interesting search on so many topics contributed to by at least one Judith Miner ;o) Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates 07710 908817
Re: [newbie] Java no longer working(for chat)
In Konqueror, click the Settings menu - Configure Konqueror... - Konqueror Browser - Java. Click Enable Java globally and fill in the Path to java executable with the path to Sun's Java, in this case /usr/java/jre1.3.1/bin/java. Note that Java will run in a window, not embedded in the page. This may be a bit annoying, but it is what gives the JRE more stability, since it is run in a separate process and it is not mixed with the browser. On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 02:41, Dr. Evil wrote: Ok, I got Sun's Java runtim installed, but Konqueror doesn't seem to detect it. I did this: # rpm --install jre-1.3.1.i386.rpm but when I go to a web page with chat, it says, Java not installed. Is there anything else I need to do? Thanks for the tips -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Copying/Pasting in Konsole
Timothy W.Glinatsis wrote: I'm a tad embarrassed asking this question, as it seems like it would be obvious enough. Regardless, I can't seem to find a way to copy and paste information from the prompt in Konsole to another application. I notice that many of you do just that when citing file permissions and things from terminal, but how? Don't be embarrassed -- I'm tempted to write a rant about cut and paste in Linux, but I'll refrain. AFAICT, there are at least a few (two at least) different systems of cut and paste in Linux, and although they can both be functional in your system at the same time, they aren't interchangeable. For example, you can't paste something into console that is in the klipper buffer using ctrl v. At a console prompt, you can swipe your mouse across a control line, and it will be copied. Now you can go to another application (I just tried this in nedit to make sure), position your mouse cursor where you want to insert the text, and then click the middle button of your mouse. (If you don't have a middle button, you may have set an option during installation something like 3rd button emulation. If you did, pressing the left and right mouse buttons simultaneously will have the same effect as pressing the middle button.) The positioning of your mouse cursor seems to be critical during the paste operation -- in nedit I positioned my mouse cursor (the slanted arrow) over the insertion point (the I-beam) before pressing the left and right buttons. Hope this helps, Randy Kramer PS: For anybody listening, I like the concept of Klipper (keeping the last x selections), but would like to control when a new clip is saved. I put something on Klipper with the intention of pasting it in several locations, then do other cutting in the course of getting ready for the paste, and next thing I know, the selection I wanted has been scrolled out of the buffer.
Re: [newbie] Linux app for MSN Messenger.
IMICI Messenger is much better than Everybuddy! Everybuddy has had some problems connecting to msn contacts. I use IMICI and it is very effective. I lets you have all your acounts in one app like your MSN, Yahoo, AOL adn ICQ. If you use it don't forget to type all of your hotmail address as your account, otherwise it will not connect to your account. eg. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) You can get it @ http://www.imici.com TezcatlipocA On Monday 09 July 2001 01:58 am, you wrote: Hi again, Anyone on the list know if there is a Linux app that accesses the MSN Messenger system? All my daughter's friends use MSN Messenger and I am trying to find a Linux alternative that she can use to chat with her MSN Messenger using friends. Cheers, Brian --
[newbie] RE: RE[2]: [expert] Seagate 20.4 Gig HD for $74 -- Good deal?
Hi,, don't knock the WD hard drives (I just bought one not long ago, before I knew they were bad, so I feel obliged to defend it. :-) current uptime is 18 days.(was 28 days, but I shutdown to add a UPS) On an abit KT7a motherboard (686b southbridge) with a Duron 900 running at 1gig... (huge supercooler 7000rpm, linked to the powersupply not the MB header to stop it drawing to much power and burning out the MB header, (but the sense wire is connected to the header for the fan alarm.) Using ReiserFS on a 20gig 7200rpm Western Digital drive.. I like tempting fate,, ,thinking of adding a Sound Blaster live! :-) lol... inncidently, that setup gets a consistant hdparm result of 31.9mb/sec (just ran it 20 times and took the average.) From my understanding, that isn't that bad a speed results, I have heard similiar results from full ATA100 non WD harddisks... so its not that far off the 8ball, although as soon as I find a windows user that wants a 20 gig 7200 hard drive, I will sell them mine and get a 7200 rpm IBM drive... regards Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rusty Carruth Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2001 10:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE[2]: [expert] Seagate 20.4 Gig HD for $74 -- Good deal? But I am concerned about reliability and performance. well, I've no real comments there - I've used Maxtor, Seagate, WD (gasp! :-), IBM, ... I had one WD fail at the end of warranty, and they replaced it even though I did not contact them until after the warranty had expired. However, they also fudge on the specs... And, most of all, I would like to know whether LM 8.0 can handle a 20.4 Gig hard drive in the first place. I had 8.0 talking happily to a 40 gig drive, so I think the answer is a resounding 'yes' :-) rc
[newbie] Good ISP for Linux?
Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could suggest specific modems that I might be able to use with Linux-Mandrake 7.0 and an ISP that will support Linux, because my present one AOL does not. I live in London England. Thanks in advance. Everill
[newbie] Gtk Warning
When I invoke some programs, vg Sylpheed, I get the following message: Gtk-WARNING**: GModule initialization check failed: Gtk+ version too old micro mismatch) And yet the program basically works. Anyone suggest what the message might indicate? Thanks for any ideas. -- Michael
Re: [newbie] Good ISP for Linux?
Peter Ruskin wrote: On Tuesday 10 July 2001 17:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could suggest specific modems that I might be able to use with Linux-Mandrake 7.0 and an ISP that will support Linux, because my present one AOL does not. I live in London England. Thanks in advance. Everill Any external modem will do. In a recent thunderstorm my 3Com-USR 56K Message Modem blew up and I replaced it with an unbranded external 56K data/fax/voice modem for £50. It works fine. As for ISPs, Freeserve give instructions for use with linux. I'm with LineOne and using linux OK, although there doesn't seem to be any help regarding this. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ) Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586 Linux 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pnr, KDE: 2.1.2, Qt: 2.3.1 Uptime 3 hours 24 minutes Any external modem will work with linux I believe. I use a diamond supra express for the job. For an ISP try www.eskimonorth.com or do a search for linux friendly isp. I know there are free services in great britian. take care, eric
Re: [newbie] Java applets in Konqueror?
On Monday 09 July 2001 23:12, you wrote: Is there a way to get Konqueror to run Java applets, like chat applets? Thanks Assuming you have been to www.konqueror.org and followed the instructions for installing a JDK or JRE of your choice you will likely also have to download the JSSE from Sun (linked form Konqueror.org). Copy jcert.jar, jnet.jar, and jsse.jar files into /usr/share/apps/kjava to enable scripting support for applets system wide or copy the files into /home/username/.kde/share/apps/kjava. The kjava dir. may not be in your .kde/apps and you will have to create it, this will enable support for that user account. This *should* all work. I get limited Java support but cannot open things like a yahoo chat applet or any of the java tools at dslreports.com. Seems like many things that others can get working I cannot. I have the perfect hardware setup to get 1/2 functionallity out of Linux. I have tried everything and even corresponded with one of the KDE developers and No-Go. Good luck, John
Re: [newbie] Good ISP for Linux?
Any external modem will do the trick. As long as it's a hardware modem, you're pretty safe. So go with external, and serial port. They are easy to maintain, and next to NO configuration needed. The only thing you need to configure would be the dialing software like kppp or whatever you choose. As far as an ISP? What we have access here in the states is much different, I do however know that Earthlink is do-able, I don't know if they have POPs in England however. Try doing a search at Google, or Yahoo! for London ISPs. That may bring you something helpful. I also suggest looking in your local phone book. I'm a big fan of local ISPs. They are normally small and have very friendly support people. That's how I started into the IT industry, and my experience with such companies has been very good. So give that a try. Your local telephone company may sell access. I know ATT is there in London, so that means ATT WorldNet. Which I've not tried to access via a Linux box, but I'm sure if you have the right information, it can work. And I believe there's Tele-House, which handle the T1's for AOLs customer base there in London, as well as some in Manchester. However I'm not sure if they sell dialup access. But check out those avenues. Good luck! tdh | Hi everyone, | | I was wondering if anyone could suggest specific modems that I might be able | to use with Linux-Mandrake 7.0 and an ISP that will support Linux, because my | present one AOL does not. I live in London England. | | Thanks in advance. | | Everill | -- -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! Uptime: 3:55PM up 4:16, 6 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 Your Fortune Zero Defects, n.: The result of shutting down a production line.
Re: [newbie] Linux app for MSN Messenger.
On 10/7/01 21:54, TezcatlipocA at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: / den 10/7/01 21:54 skrev TezcatlipocA fra [EMAIL PROTECTED] følgende: IMICI Messenger is much better than Everybuddy! Everybuddy has had some problems connecting to msn contacts. I use IMICI and it is very effective. I lets you have all your acounts in one app like your MSN, Yahoo, AOL adn ICQ. If you use it don't forget to type all of your hotmail address as your account, otherwise it will not connect to your account. eg. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) You can get it @ http://www.imici.com Thanks again to all for the informative and varied answers for a solution to my daughter's wishes. Cheers, Brian --
[newbie] Mandrake 8.1
Just planning migration timetables for some of my machines and wondering what (if any) schedule is planned for 8.1? thanks, ::mark
Re: [newbie] mouse single click treat as double click
Fear Not! Oh, Stout Fellow! Take comfort in knowing that your MS mouse is not actually manufactured by Microsoft, but by Logitech! You are forgiven ! On July 10, 2001 05:19 pm, Michel Clasquin wrote: On Tuesday 10 July 2001 08:21, you wrote: my mouse act strangely today. i have been using mandake 8.0 for about half a year. and today my mouse act very strange, everytime i single click using the left button, sometimes they send a double click signal. I've had that several times. Your mouse is stuffed, replace it. You could try opening it up and cleaning it, but once it starts acting up it will generally be at the end of its life soon. No-name brand mouses last me about six months, while at work I have a MS mouse that is still going strong three years later. (Father forgive me, I have spoken well of a Microsoft product ...) But considering what MS mouses cost, I find it more convenient to buy cheap replacements as and when necessary. YMMV PS, yes, the plural of mouse really is mouses, but only in a computer-related context. g
Re: [newbie] IP aliasing
snip I don't really know how to solve your main problem (since I've never tried it myself), so I'll just say this. There are plenty of console text editors out there. GNU Nano is a GNU clone of Pico (which is not GPL). I personally am a big fan of Jed. WOW i thought i was the only one that liked JED. I thought it ws 'cause it reminded me of DOS edit or something... I thought jed might not handle editting scrpit text the exactally the same way as VI and might leave some invisable markers some whaere or something that i had not yet figured out is why it was just ME using JED Snip
Re: [newbie] Internet Sex
got your attention? anyway the note i wanted to make was that (at least with Kmail) the delete key works great for threads I don't care about. On Tuesday 10 July 2001 17:28, John wrote: I hate threads like this. Makes you stop and think about why you use these mailing lists!!! John W
Re: [newbie] Samba and plain passwords
as I understand it, the answer might be to create a new user (say smbuser), add a new group (say, smbgroup) and add all the users you want (including smbuser) and make /home/smbuser global read write permission etc... to that group. I know there is a tutorial around here somewhere... I am looking for it and will e-mail it to you if I ever find it. good luck On Tuesday 10 July 2001 14:07, Mark Johnson wrote: I want to setup a Samba server but I don't want to give an account on my machine for every person, yet I don't want to have the clear-text passwords flying about. Is there a way to enable public (guest) shares without having to add users to the linux machine?
RE: [newbie] PPPOE/Roaring Penguin/Network card
Yeah, i've tried installing 3.0 off of cd too, and that wasn't working either (same thing). I'll check to make sure that the conf file you mentioned is empty when i get home tonight. Thanks for the help
[newbie] Internet Connection Sharing Wizard in Mandrake 8.0 cannot find ethernet card
Hi all, I'm (obviously) a Linux newbie, and I'm having trouble trying to configure internet connection sharing. I've got a simple 2 PC network, with my Linux machine as the server, and a windows 2000 box as a client. I've got my ADSL connection all up and running under Linux without a hitch. Linux' eth0 is working fine, with an IP of 192.168.0.1 (my ADSL conn. is USB, not ethernet). I can ping fine from Linux - windows and back again. But, when I run the Mandrake Internet Connection Wizard, it gives me an error that it can;t find an ethernet card, check hardware setup. How can I work around this? The ethernet card network is obviously working fine as I can ping back and forth without trouble. Thanks, // Kerin Cosford // Bocuma ltd. // // E : [EMAIL PROTECTED] // T : 020 7684 4209 // M : 07748 013 534
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Steps on how to get the streaming audio/video RealPlayer working in Linux
I notice that the entries in my Netscape Applications shows a different switch. Your notes indicate the %s switch is very important. My entries have a %u switch. What does that mean and should I change it to %s? Geof On Monday 09 July 2001 08:15 am, you wrote: Hi everybody, I have read a number of emails that RealPlayer is not working including requests on how to add the MIME entries to get RealPlayer working. It appears that www.real.com provides insufficient information about turning on the streaming video and audio. You must add several MIME entries to Netscape for the streaming media/video and audio to work. Hopefully, in the future www.real.com will improve their installation script so that the user will not have to add them in manually. I have found that the Plug In Plugger 3.2 does NOT work adequately. The original instructions applied to users that downloaded the .bin version of RealPlayer6, 7 and 8 in Netscape. However, if you have installed the rpm version of RealPlayer, the default application path is different. The entire instructions are as follows: FYI For the .bin installations: Default application path: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay For the rpm installations: Default application path: /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay Very Important: The %s switch activates the streaming feature in RealPlayer. If you do not add %s after realplay, it will NOT work. Start up Netscape: Select Edit-Preferences-Navigator-Applications 1. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: RealMedia File MIMEType: application/vnd.rn-realmedia Suffixes: .rm Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s The .bin default application path is shown above. The rpm default application path is shown below: Application: /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK buttons to confirm the entry. 2. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: RealVideo File MIMEType: video/vnd.rn-realvideo Suffixes: .rv Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK buttons to confirm the entry. 3. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: RealAudio File MIMEType: audio/vnd.rn-realaudio Suffixes: .ra, .ram Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK buttons to confirm the entry. 4. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: RealAudio File 2 MIMEType: audio/x-pn-realaudio Suffixes: .ra, .ram Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK buttons to confirm the entry. 5. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: Live365 MIMEType: audio/x-scpls Suffixes: .pls Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK buttons to confirm the entry. 6. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: MPEG Audio MIMEType: audio/mpeg Suffixes: Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK buttons to confirm the entry. 7. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: MPEG Audio 2 MIMEType: audio/x-mpegurl Suffixes: .m3u Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK buttons to confirm the entry. Select File-Exit Restart your web browser. During the first start up you may be prompted for your email address, country of origin and postal code or zip code address. You MUST fill in these fields to get RealPlayer working for the first time. That's it! Now you are ready to enjoy, music and especially streaming audio and video. Please make a print out of this for future reference. If you lose the instructions, you can find a link to one of my original postings by clicking on the link below: http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg63504.html Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
what is the name of this program? is it a linux database? On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:04, Boliver Allmon wrote: We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
No it is a windows based program. I am going to get Win4Lin to run it, if needed. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: what is the name of this program? is it a linux database? On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:04, Boliver Allmon wrote: We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Linux equivalent for DOS command: MEM
Juan: free will do it -- and more. To see the options, type man free at a terminal prompt. --- Carroll Juan Carlos Conde wrote: What is the linux equivalent for DOS command: MEM? -- Juan Carlos Conde e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Valladolid (Spain)Running Linux Mandrake 8.0 Linux Registered User: 219425 - http://counter.li.org/ __ mensaje enviado desde http://www.iespana.es emails (pop)-paginas web (espacio illimitado)-agenda-favoris (bookmarks)-foros
Re: [newbie] Linux equivalent for DOS command: MEM
try 'free On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:02, Juan Carlos Conde wrote: What is the linux equivalent for DOS command: MEM?
RE: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
What you failed to say was that this is a WINDOWS program you are trying to run in Linux... Nope. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Boliver Allmon Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 7:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
I would say that makes the problem MUCH more difficult, and using Linux to run a windows program will most likely cause so much headach that I am inclined to agree with the geeks that suggest running a PCAnywhere type of program. and connecting winders to winders On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:30, Boliver Allmon wrote: No it is a windows based program. I am going to get Win4Lin to run it, if needed. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: what is the name of this program? is it a linux database? On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:04, Boliver Allmon wrote: We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] hardware (soundcard) conflict)
as root in a text console, type (without the quotes) lsdev or if that does not work, cat /proc/interrupts On Sunday 08 July 2001 18:17, David L. Dufeau wrote: I'm getting an error in my /var/bootlog that leads me to believe that a I/O or DMA conflict is preventing my soundcards module from loading properly. I can get the I/O and DMA addresses from the bios, but is there any way to figure out what Mandrake8.0 wants for the addresses, and where the conflicts may exists? HardDrake and LinuxConf don't seem to identify the device addresses. -thangyouberrymuch -dave David L. Dufeau Vertebrate Paleontology Laboratory J.J. Pickle Research Campus PRC 6 The University of Texas at Austin Austin, Texas 78712 Mail Code R7600 (512) 232-5517
[newbie] Knotify error
Whenever I login I get Knotify error. How to get over it? -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux user No.205042
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
My concern is system stablity. I cannot be there all the time to reboot the system. I may have to run Windows 2000 or NT, but I am not sure of its ability either. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say that makes the problem MUCH more difficult, and using Linux to run a windows program will most likely cause so much headach that I am inclined to agree with the geeks that suggest running a PCAnywhere type of program. and connecting winders to winders On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:30, Boliver Allmon wrote: No it is a windows based program. I am going to get Win4Lin to run it, if needed. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: what is the name of this program? is it a linux database? On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:04, Boliver Allmon wrote: We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
RE: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
This really should be off this list since you are not in a Linux realm anymore... What you probably want is Win2K running either Terminal Server or Citrix/Terminal Server. I've set up systems so that you can PC-Anywhere in to perform a soft boot if Terminal server chokes, and also reboot a hung machine remotely with hardware dialup devices. If you keep the APP count low, terminal server (and/or Citrix) does a decent job. If this is the only program you need up, you'll have pretty good luck. Users would be able to dial in directly or access the applications via the web once authenticated, using the ICA clients. The ICA clients (which are available for Linux BTW) require fairly low end machines, so they can just about run on any old computer with a mouse and floppy drive. Yes Linux is a MILLION times better at this type of scenario, and cheaper, but you are not talking about running Linux native apps. VMWARE has WAY too much overhead for multiple users. Wine doesn't cut it either for this purpose. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Boliver Allmon Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine My concern is system stablity. I cannot be there all the time to reboot the system. I may have to run Windows 2000 or NT, but I am not sure of its ability either. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say that makes the problem MUCH more difficult, and using Linux to run a windows program will most likely cause so much headach that I am inclined to agree with the geeks that suggest running a PCAnywhere type of program. and connecting winders to winders On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:30, Boliver Allmon wrote: No it is a windows based program. I am going to get Win4Lin to run it, if needed. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: what is the name of this program? is it a linux database? On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:04, Boliver Allmon wrote: We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
Got vnc :http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ - Original Message - From: Boliver Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
- Original Message - From: Boliver Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Java applets in Konqueror? Blackdown.
¦b 2001 ¤C¤ë 11 ¬P´Á¤T 00:05¡ADr. Evil ¼g¹D: Thanks for the advice, but... how do I install Java? Where do I get it from? Thanks Hi Dr Devil! First, you'd be better of making sure that your messages reach the list too. I'm very newbie too and struggling to keep up with the flood of mails. You have to click reply all and delete unnecessary addresses. I didn't know anything about java until one evening I noticed that Java was not installed by default on linux. The next day I had an important scheduled chat with my teacher. That night, I read all the FAQ and web pages that I could find until I managed to set it up. Unfortunately I lost my bookmarks since (stupid manipulation mistake from me). A good starting point would be the following site: http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/ I think it includes a FAQ and an installation guide. I downloaded the prized version (j2re1.3.0), *not* the latest version of java and put the java folder in my path (as instructed on the faq). It now seem to work find with konqueror. Start there and let the list know if you have further questions. Anguo
Re: [newbie] Java (again)
¦b 2001 ¤C¤ë 11 ¬P´Á¤T 02:36¡AMarcia Waller ¼g¹D: Dear All, I already have the latest java installed in my LM8. I went to Konqueror and configured it as suggested. How did you configure it? I first tried to use the GUI Konqueror configuration tool, where you can put in the path to your java file, but it didn't work for me. I then did it manually, using the console and it worked. 1- open a console 2- su to root 3- cd to /etc/ in it you have a file named 'profile'. that's where you have to add the path to java. 4- here a very basic knowledge of vi is very handy. vi profile type 'a' to insert the following line (modify it according to your path and version) PATH=/usr/local/j2re1.3.0/bin:$PATH type esc to go back to command mode. type ':x' to save and exit. 5- you can type 'cat profile' to check that it's ok. restart xwindows. the above worked for me. When I went to the chat page and clicked on chat I first would get a message that the applet is opening then it did not open and I got an error message that says unable to load JSSE SSL stream handler, https support not available. does this appear when using netscape? I don't use netscape, so I wouldn't know what to do. Also, when I first open Konqueror I get a box with an error message that says cannot find ns plugin or something close to that. I believe that setting up the path as above could solve the problem with Konqueror. give it a try. I am sorry: i didn't see you previous emails until right now. You were asking me whether to install the latest version or not. I certainly wouldn't know whether it is a good choice or not, but I know two things: 1- what worked for me 2- reading this forum, I noticed that the latest version of everything is not necessarily the best for individual cases. Faced with the choice of version, I decided to play it safe and downloaded the version from http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/ that got prized. j2re1.3.0 I believe. I downloaded the intel version even though I have an AMD Duron chip, but that worked fine with me. Anguo. I looked in at my java files in /usr and they are there and seem ok. Does anyone have any suggestions? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the help. This was all working fine before and just stopped working on its own as far as I know. Sincerely, Marcia
Re: [newbie] Thank you Civileme
? 2001 ?? 10 ??? 20:44?Dan LaBine ??: This looks like a Kodak moment ! OK Everyone, Group Hug !! :-D Chse! Anguo
[newbie] Bah!!...I figured out what I did wrong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 10 July 2001 05:47 pm, you wrote: Hey gang, On an earlier install, I had downloaded and installed the updated gnupg tarball, then got gpa and made a key. I ran into a few problems not related to my gpg and decided to reinstall Linux (LM 8.0), but before I did, I copied my pubring.gpg and secring.gpg to a file on my Windblows partition, then went ahead with the reinstall of Linux. I went through it all again and copied my keys back into my /home file and when I clicked on the shortcut to gpa, it wanted to make another private key. Is there some special directory I need to copy my keyrings to? I've got copies of them in probably every place I found gpg and gpa, but gpa still wants to make a new key. Thanks for anyone who has any ideas how to fix this. Take care and be well, John In case anyone else happens to be as dumb as I am, this is what I figured out I did wrong. I was supposed to copy the pubring.asc...not pubring.gpg. Also, another quicky here...I installed the gnupg-1.0.6 update, but it didn't 'really' install. If I tried to sign something, it always showed up as 1.0.4, so I tried the Mandrake updater, and got it installed, but I didn't check on the mark to 'upgrade' (overwrites the 'old' version?). Anyone know how to uninstall the old version without having to reinstall all the dependancies it wants to take with it? Sorry for hittin' all the branches of the idiot tree when I fell out of it yesterday sigh, but I really am trying hard to get this system up and running once and for all. Take care and be well, John - -- Use Linux and GnuPG to fight the evil M$ empire and to stop gov't prying Registered Linux user #214117 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7S8wr/FG9igwlzYARAk1QAJ9AuE5KKtmK8qfNbZSEDGQxE0VIYgCghEgF c7mrfFosc82yulIJi+EWZAQ= =I34F -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie] A note about user-friendliness
civileme wrote: If people would take notes of a session they had with software manager, we would be able to see where their intuition leads them (we are spoiled by being close to its design and implementation Here's something that happened to me yesterday with Software Manager. I was downloading a rpm file from a mirror site when my modem lost the connection (a not uncommon situation in our rural area). The Software Manager continued to spin the indicator despite the fact that nothing was happenning. I had the modem reconnect, hoping the download would resume where it was before the connection was lost. Well, nothing happened. No more downloading started. After five minutes I gave up and had the modem hang up (we have to pay for local phone calls by the minute). Software Manager continued to spin the rpminstall (whatever it's called). I couldn't click on menus, stop rpminstall, or exit Software Manager. I finally had to click on Xkill and then the Software Manager window. It would be nice to at least know what is going on and to have a way to cancel the download if the connection drops, and then to close down Software Manager. --Judy Miner
Re: [newbie] Internet Security
Many thanks for this very helpful message, Tom. I typed tinyfirewall (no quotes) at the console prompt and got a message everything already installed followed by four lines complaining about Missing charset in Fontset creation. It also mentioned line 70 of /usr/lib/libDrakX/my_gtk.pm. I looked at that line in the my_gtk.pm file. I will post these error messages on this list when I have a chance to run Linux again. We have been having frequent thunderstorms for the past three days and my Linux computer is turned off and unplugged. The messages are too long for me to reproduce them without making a mistake. I need to copy and paste. This may explain why the firewall setup in DrakConf won't run. Maybe it can't find the font it needs to display the screens. I have no idea how this may have happened because I didn't do anything related to that font, but maybe I can get it fixed up with a little help and then can set up my firewall. --Judy Miner - Original Message - From: Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 08, 2001 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Security On Saturday 07 July 2001 09:52 pm, Judith Miner wrote: [snip] You have to have open ports to run your system and get on the Net. What you don't want is for those ports to be seen or accessible by others. ( and that about sums up my security expertise ;) I don't know what else to suggest. You're gonna have to get DrakConf - Security - Firewalling functioning to setup a firewall. [snip] -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] PPP Dialler
Chris wrote: Does there seem to be a problem with the ppp dialler set-up running gnome 1.4 under Mandrake 8. I have previously installed Mandrake 8 with the KDE desktop option and had set-up the dialler up in a matter of minutes. Has anybody else had a problem in this area or suggestions as to how to get it up and running, I have also been unable to get the Gnome dialer to work. The Kppp dialer works fine and set up with no problems. The last time I tried it, the Gnome dialer did dial but immediately dropped the connection. This has happened every time I've tried it. On another computer I no longer use on which I had Linux installed briefly, the Gnome dialer wouldn't work at all, but Kppp dialer did. I don't know anything about the underlying problem. My modem is a 56K hardware-based external connected to com 2. The other computer had an ISA plug and play real modem, not a Winmodem. --Judy Miner
[newbie]
Hi, After following advice from many people, I finally got Mandrake 8 working as a logon server for the windows boxes on my home network. I had to reinstall on a larger HD, but now cannot get it working again. (logon from windows) I have DHCP running and serving ip's and I have full use of the net from all clients. I have printed out and read all info I can find, but cannot see where I am going wrong. In Konqueror, when I click on local network, I get 'could not connect to host localhost. Can any one point me in the direction of a SIMPLE step by step explanation of how to set this up.? Colin Jenkins ICQ: 650611 Voice: +61 97351410 Mob: 0409196144 I'm looking for freedom - can you direct me?
Re: [newbie] MP3s playing at twice (or higher) speed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frans, Your guess is right. WAV files do play too fast. What does this hint at? Any solutions? I think this is a problem with the soundcard driver for your soundcard. From the INSTALL file for the ALSA drivers: Note: some i815 chips have different clocks. if you encounter too fast playback, add module option snd_ac97_clock=41194. Do you have the i815 chipset? Btw: at least on LM 8.0 the OSS/free drivers, not the ALSA ones are installed by default. -Frans
Re: [newbie] imici problems
I've installed the app, and used it for maybe a few days. The thing about the software, is, meanwhile it's a good idea, it doesn't work very well in my experience. I've tried to use it with all of those at the same time, but it won't connect with each one. It will connect with AIM one minute, then YAHOO! and ICQ the next. MSN, but not the others, so I gave up on it. What kind of errors are you getting when you install it? Are you installing from tarball or from RPM? tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! Uptime: 9:18AM up 5 days, 12:25, 3 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.03, 0.01 | imici is supposed to allow you to manage multiple messenger clients (icq, | yahoo, msn, aol) from one spot. I am having all sorts of trouble installing | it, and it only seems to connect to icq when I have licq running already. I | am getting errors during make. Anybody work with this before? I would | appreciate any ideas. | | Scoootr64 | -- Your Fortune I like being single. I'm always there when I need me. -- Art Leo
[newbie] Turn of confirmation in Konqueror
Hi Folks, I'm running and loving Mandrake 8.0. It's great! But there's one thing that's driving me around the bend and I can't seem to figure out how to reconfigure it. And that's the confirmation request pop-ups in KMail. Every time I click on a image file attachment, up pops the Danger, Will Robinson handhold window, warning me that I'm potentially compromising my system security by opening an image file attachment with the Pixie Image Management System. I've looked at the config settings. Even under Security, there doesn't seem to be a way to turn off this irritation. Does anyone know how to shut it off, please? Cheers. Rob
[newbie] Returned messages
Good evening: I've been having some messages to this list bounced the last few days. In every case, the message that bounced was to the person who posted the reply. Am I correct that the proper procedure is to use reply-all? I've just installed Mandrake 8.0 over 7.1. I kept the old /home but reformatted everything else, and it's just possible that something got messed up. Oh yeah, I'm using Netscape. Regards, Carroll
[newbie] Linux Flavor for PowerBook 1400?
Hi again, Does anyone out there know if there is a Linux version that will run on a PowerBook 1400? The 1400, unlike the 2400 and the 3400 has a NuBus system, I believe. Cheers, Brian --
Re: [newbie] Linux Flavor for PowerBook 1400?
On Tuesday 10 July 2001 07:43, Brian Durant wrote: Hi again, Does anyone out there know if there is a Linux version that will run on a PowerBook 1400? The 1400, unlike the 2400 and the 3400 has a NuBus system, I believe. Cheers, Brian -- Well there is a Beta of mandrake8.0 for the PPC To participate as a beta tester, please subscribe to the PPC mailing list by sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words SUB cooker-ppc in the body of your message. ISO images can be downloaded from http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ftp.php3#ppc . Some preliminary instructions for installing the PPC beta are available online at http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/Install/ Civileme
