[newbie-it] prova
prova scusate :PPP fab
[newbie-it] news emulatori
salve gente :)) a qualcuno interesserebbe sapere che linux tra breve potra' far girare giochi che usano DirectX? bene date una occhiata :))) bye http://sourceforge.net/projects/winex/ http://www.gamespydaily.com/news/fullstory.asp?id=2455 by Spider
Re: [newbie-it] Proposta
Oggidi' alle ore 00:58, sabato 20 ottobre 2001, Voi, Nobile brain, avete realizzato: vista la continua richiesta di informazioni e/o consigli sui winmodem, perche` non realizzare una mini-guida, una faq se vogliamo, da mandare a quelli che chiedono info in lista? Scusami per il ritardo, ma la mail mi dev'essere passata via. Boh, sinceramente, non saprei; per quanto mi riguarda sto traducendo il Winmodems-and-Linux-HowTo e il Conexant+Rockwell-HowTo, per il Pluto. Ovviamente non avendo mai avuto un winmodem non mi rendo conto piu' di tanto quali possano essere fisicamente i problemi, tuttavia questi due e il Linmodems-Howto (tradotto recentemente da Davide Di Lazzaro), mi pare possano gia' essere una buona guida all'utilizzo passo passo. P.S. in questo periodo non avrei cmq moltissimo tempo da dedicarci e purtroppo anche la presenza qui (per quanto poco possa servire :P) e' destinata mio malgrado a ridursi :( Salutoni, Lk -- LU #210970 LM #98222 / MDK 8.2 su 2.4.12-ac3 -Cooker- [Chi e' pronto a dar via le proprie liberta' fondamentali per comprarsi briciole di temporanea sicurezza non merita ne' la liberta' ne' la sicurezza - Benjamin Franklin]
Re: [newbie-it] reti linux+windows
capisco che site presi dai win modem, ma qualcuno mi può spiegare perchè la mia installazione di Mandrake continua a non vedere la rete anche se è configurata ad hoc??? Ciao Grazie
Re: [newbie-it] formattazione floppy
behprima cosa complimenti...essere nuova utente di PC e di linux contemporaneamente non e' facile :)) io non sono uno smanettone su linux (sono anche io alle prime armi) ma credo che per i floppy potresti usare il fs di winzozla mdk 8.0 e RH dovrebbero vederli senza prob. per il supermount e'anzi dovrebbe :) .essere un sistema di montaggio della mdk che ti abilita le periferiche senza doverle montare ogni volta (/mnt/etc etc)detto questo mi scuso se ho sparato delle bagianate :P e passo la parola ai piu' esperti. byee by Spider Eccomi. Vi ricordo che sono una nuova utente sia di linux che del computer più in generale. Quesito: ho avuto problemi con i floppy perchè il filesystem che viene montato dalla mandrake 8.0 probabilmente non è dello stesso tipo di quello necessario per altri sistemi operativi che devo utilizzare:p.es. windows, linux-RedHat7.0 Ho cercato di capire qual è il fs che viene montato dalla Mandrake8.0 ma quello che ho capito è che il montaggio è in modalità supermount...quindi? - che fs monta? - quale mi conviene utilizzare dovendo lavorare con i diversi sistemi operativi sopra elencati (perchè credo che facendo la formattazione 'a mano' posso comunque montare il fs che preferisco, giusto?) Spero di essere stata sufficientemente chiara nell'esposizione del mio problema. A presto. __ Abbonati a Yahoo! ADSL con Atlanet! Naviga su Internet ad alta velocità, e senza limiti di tempo! Avrai sempre il telefono libero e non dovrai pagare il traffico telefonico per collegarti a Internet. Per saperne di più vai alla pagina http://adsl.yahoo.it
[newbie-it] SPSS ed Access
Salve a tutti. Non so se sono del tutto OT ma chiedo a tutti se sapete indicarmi un programma analogo a SPSS per Linux e qualche reale e valido sostituto ad Access. A parer mio Access è uno degli scogli maggiori per chi, come me e la mia azienda - e molti altri comunque -, cerca di affrancarsi del tutto da MS. Grazie a tutti. Andrea M.
Re: [newbie-it] reti linux+windows
dovresti essere un po' piu preciso rispetto a non vede la rete...p.es. che rete? - Original Message - From: Lino Garbellini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] reti linux+windows capisco che site presi dai win modem, ma qualcuno mi può spiegare perchè la mia installazione di Mandrake continua a non vedere la rete anche se è configurata ad hoc??? Ciao Grazie
Re: [newbie-it] formattazione floppy
Il 10:34, martedì 23 ottobre 2001, hai scritto: Eccomi. Quesito: ho avuto problemi con i floppy perchè il filesystem che viene montato dalla mandrake 8.0 probabilmente non è dello stesso tipo di quello necessario per altri sistemi operativi che devo utilizzare:p.es. windows, linux-RedHat7.0 Ho cercato di capire qual è il fs che viene montato dalla Mandrake8.0 ma quello che ho capito è che il montaggio è in modalità supermount...quindi? - che fs monta? il file system normalmente è vfat cioè quello che si utilizza per le partizioni windows. In fatti, se non avessi il supermount, per montare un dischetto dovresti dare il comando: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy (dove fd0 è la prima unità a dischetti e floppy è una directory creata all'interno di /mnt come punto di montaggio) - quale mi conviene utilizzare dovendo lavorare con i diversi sistemi operativi Ti conviene utilizzare quello descritto, dato che è utilizzato sia da linux, in generale, che da windows. Ciao Sandro --- Dr. Sandro Porrazzini Linux Mndrake 8.0 Linux Machine: 103048 Linux User: 203143
Re: [newbie-it] formattazione floppy
Il 16:34, martedì 23 ottobre 2001, hai scritto: Eccomi. Vi ricordo che sono una nuova utente sia di linux che del computer più in generale. Quesito: ho avuto problemi con i floppy perchè il filesystem che viene montato dalla mandrake 8.0 probabilmente non è dello stesso tipo di quello necessario per altri sistemi operativi che devo utilizzare:p.es. windows, linux-RedHat7.0 Di solito è Windows ad avere problemi con gli altri filesystems e non Linux, che li supporta quasi tutti, poi mi sorprende che ci siano incompatibilità con la RedHat, quindi cosa intendi con ho avuto problemi con i floppy ? Ho cercato di capire qual è il fs che viene montato dalla Mandrake8.0 ma quello che ho capito è che il montaggio è in modalità supermount...quindi? - che fs monta? - quale mi conviene utilizzare dovendo lavorare con i diversi sistemi operativi sopra elencati (perchè credo che facendo la formattazione 'a mano' posso comunque montare il fs che preferisco, giusto?) Se vuoi utilizzarli anche con Windows vfat va bene, ma io non mi sono mai posto il problema, penso sia automatico basta configurare bene il file /etc/fstab ( strano che non lo sia già) Comunque in ambiente grafico, fai così: 1) Se non hai l'icona del floppy: Clicca sul Desktop con il destro, scegli nuovo disp. dischetti e riempi gli spazi i più importanti Dispositivo: /dev/fd0 Punto di montaggio: /mnt/floppy tipo di filesys. : auto 2) Se hai l' icona controlla solo se i dati precedenti sono giusti Anzi adesso che mi ricordo appena installato anche a me dava problemi, ho cancellato il link al floppy del Desktop e l'ho rifatto io. Se hai ancora problemi manda il file /etc/fstab Ciao, Ge P.S: perchè vi piace tanto il supermount?!
Re: [newbie-it] SPSS ed Access
Il 16:06, martedì 23 ottobre 2001, hai scritto: Salve a tutti. Non so se sono del tutto OT ma chiedo a tutti se sapete indicarmi un programma analogo a SPSS per Linux e qualche reale e valido sostituto ad Access. A parer mio Access è uno degli scogli maggiori per chi, come me e la mia azienda - e molti altri comunque -, cerca di affrancarsi del tutto da MS. Grazie a tutti. Andrea M. Ciao!! io avevo lo stesso problema. L'unica attivita' che non riuscivo a portare su linux erano i miei database, su cui facevo le mie ricerche etc.. Trattandosi di due archivi, uno software e uno di mp3, non si tratta di strutture elaborate ( una tabella ). Tuttavia non riuscivo a fare il passaggio. Poi ho scoperto MySql, Apache e PHP. Con MySql si possono fare ( mi pare ) qualsiasi cosa che si fa con Access ( non le maschere e i colori etc... perche' è a linea di comando ). Tuttavia installando Apache in maniera che supporti PHP e usando l'interfaccia phpMyAdmin si puo' gestire i propri database in stile quasi Access. Poi dopo aver imparato un po' di PHP e' possibile fare tutti i lavori sul database MySql da una pagina web ( es fare una query e presentare il risultato con tutti i pupoletti e i colori che si possono ottenere com HTML + PHP ) che gira in locale su apache. Certo che non e' proprio intuitivo : da utente Access quale ero ho dovuto prendermi qualche rivista e manuale ma alla fine ho ottenuto i seguenti risultati : Uso windows quasi niente Ho i miei database funzionanti Ho imparato a usare MySql ( qualcosina...) Ho imparato le basi di SQL ( un pochetto ) Ho installato e faccio girare Apache ( funzioni base ) Sto imparando PHP e HTML ( prima usavo frontpage e buonanotte ) Visto questo perche' non imparare ad usare sendmail e fetchmail insieme al mio kmail ? Tutto questo per dirti che affrontare un problema singolo come i database sotto linux puo' aprire strade a conoscenze che poi rivelano la loro utilita' in tutti altri campi ( es PHP + HMTL ). Capisco che ragionando in termini di azienda forse non c'e' proprio il tempo di star li' a legger manuali, bisogna farlo subito e funzionante. Sul breve periodo sicuramente Access puo' essere la soluzione migliore. Ma sul medio lungo credo che ( volendo attuare una politica di passaggio verso prodotti open source ) affrontare una volta per tutte il problema sotto linux e risolto , si ottengano poi una serie di benefici a cascata in altre aree. Senza contare che SQL e' il linguaggio base dei data base relazionali. Credo che pure Access sotto le sue windows alla fine traduca in SQL, non so. Ho letto il manuale di access 2000 e so fare maschere e disegni etcma abbandonato Access tutta questa conoscenza non mi serve. Uno dei grandi pregi di linux a mio avviso e' che permette di riciclare i contenuti imparati affrontando problemi diversi ( = imparare ). Cio' lo trovo molto stimolante e credo che alla fine possa risultate anche redditizio . Mi scuso per la lungaggine ma sono un nuovo utente linux completamente conquistato dal nuovo OS. Ed e' il mio primo messaggio. Ciao. Stefano.
[newbie-it] Upgrade a KDE 2.2
Ho trovato su uno dei 2 CD dell'ultimo LinuxC un upgrade per MDK 8.0 (ma c'era anche per altre versioni) del KDE 2.2 Non ho resistito alla tentazione, pur sapendo che raramente queste cose mi sono funzionate. Qualcosa ha funzionato e altre cose no. Per esempio dal menu iniziale (welcome..) e' sparita completamente per tutti gli utenti l'opzione per usare Gnome. Cosa non gravissima perche' la esploravo solo ogni tanto per curiosita' (ma non e' malaccio). Ora per tutti gli utenti ci sono solo 3 possibilita': default, kde, failsave. Quasi tutti gli account funzionano abbastanza bene in modalita' default, che sarebbe il nuovo kde mentre, selezionando kde, si ha uno spartanissimo modo grafico (Twm) che comunque funziona (sto facendoci girare ora kmail). La modalita' failsave mostra una finestra che esce dallo schermo, l'ucica cosa a cui reagisce e' un Ctrl+Alt+Backspace. L'a cosa che veramente mi disoiace e' che l'utente che uso per la posta e' l'unico sotto il quale non riesco a far girare il kde. Ho provato a togliere brutalmente, eliminando la dir .kde e files vari (.kderc e la dir Desktop) ma il problema rimane: selezionando default, invece del kde vengo rispedito alla finestra Welcome. Nell'attesa di procurarmi la MDK 8.1 , qualcuno puo' suggerirmi qualche files sparso per l'HD che val la pena di smanettare per tentare di far funzionare il kde? Valgono anche altri tipi di consigli ;) Tommaso
I: [newbie-it] G450 16M e DH con 8.0
-Messaggio originale- Da: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Inviato: martedì 23 ottobre 2001 23.17 A: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Oggetto: R: [newbie-it] G450 16M e DH con 8.0 Da quello che ho capito è un problema della 8.0 che con l'xWindows 4.0.1 non supporta pienamente la 450. X avere il pieno supporto con devi avere l'Xwindow 4.1.0.o la MDK 8.1...altrimenti devi rinunciare alla piena compatibilità con l'accelerazione 3D Almeno questo è quello che mi è stato detto approposito ciao -Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Per conto di Brancaleone Inviato: martedì 23 ottobre 2001 19.34 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto: [newbie-it] G450 16M e DH con 8.0 qualcuno di voi utilizza la G450 16M con la 8.0? me la vede come G400 e ho già provato con gli rpm dal sito della Matrox ma niente : non ho provato invece con le sorgenti per questione di tempo. fab
RE: Re: [newbie-it] reti linux+windows
Ci potresti dire cosa intendi per vedere la rete? Solitamente un utente Microborg(io sono un admin Microborg - sigh -) dice di vedere la rete solo quando è in grado di vedere le iconcine degli altri pc, o le unità disco mappate. E' forse questa la tua definizione di vedere la rete? Ciao, Oldgoblin :) capisco che site presi dai win modem, ma qualcuno mi può spiegare perchè la mia installazione di Mandrake continua a non vedere la rete anche se è configurata ad hoc??? Ciao Grazie
[newbie-it] formattazione floppy
Eccomi. Vi ricordo che sono una nuova utente sia di linux che del computer più in generale. Quesito: ho avuto problemi con i floppy perchè il filesystem che viene montato dalla mandrake 8.0 probabilmente non è dello stesso tipo di quello necessario per altri sistemi operativi che devo utilizzare:p.es. windows, linux-RedHat7.0 Ho cercato di capire qual è il fs che viene montato dalla Mandrake8.0 ma quello che ho capito è che il montaggio è in modalità supermount...quindi? - che fs monta? - quale mi conviene utilizzare dovendo lavorare con i diversi sistemi operativi sopra elencati (perchè credo che facendo la formattazione 'a mano' posso comunque montare il fs che preferisco, giusto?) Spero di essere stata sufficientemente chiara nell'esposizione del mio problema. A presto. __ Abbonati a Yahoo! ADSL con Atlanet! Naviga su Internet ad alta velocità, e senza limiti di tempo! Avrai sempre il telefono libero e non dovrai pagare il traffico telefonico per collegarti a Internet. Per saperne di più vai alla pagina http://adsl.yahoo.it
Re: [newbie-it] formattazione floppy
--- Loredana [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Eccomi. Benvenuta!!! Vi ricordo che sono una nuova utente sia di linux che del computer più in generale. Quesito: ho avuto problemi con i floppy perchè il filesystem che viene montato dalla mandrake 8.0 probabilmente non è dello stesso tipo di quello necessario per altri sistemi operativi che devo utilizzare:p.es. windows, linux-RedHat7.0 Volendo semplificare il discorso si puo' dire che Linux (in generale) utilizza un filesystem che si chiama ext, di cui la versione 2 (ext2) e' supportata da tutte le distribuzioni; da qualche mese e' disponibile la versione 3 (ext3) che e' una evoluzione ed e' un filesystem journaled, cioe' un filesystem che previene possibili perdite di dati dovuti a cali di tensione (es. se manca improvvisamente la corrente). Un altro tipo di filesystem e' raiserfs che e' pure lui journaled, quindi analogo a ext3. Diciamo che se sul tuo sistema usi ext2 vai sul sicuro e dovresti poter condividere i files con tutte le altre distribuzioni Linux. Windows usa un filesystem di tipo fat che Linux vede senza problemi (lo identifica come vfat). Quindi se tu hai la necessita' di utilizzare dei floppy sia con Windows che con Linux puoi tranquillamente formattarli da Windows ed utilizzarli con i due sistemi. Ho cercato di capire qual è il fs che viene montato dalla Mandrake8.0 ma quello che ho capito è che il montaggio è in modalità supermount...quindi? Supermount e' una prerogativa di Mandrake (non e' standard Linux): grazie al supermount appena inserisci il cdrom o il floppy nel lettore, il dispositivo viene montato automaticamente, senza il supermount devi procedere manualmente a montare il dispositivo con il comando mount. Supermount e' comunque solo una comodita' che ti evita di lanciare il comando mount, ma non influisce in nessun modo sul filesystem, quindi non pregiudica che tu possa condividere i tuoi floppy tra distribuzioni o sistemi differenti. Spero di esserti stato d'aiuto. Se hai altri dubbi facci sapere!! Ciao. Steo. __ Abbonati a Yahoo! ADSL con Atlanet! Naviga su Internet ad alta velocità, e senza limiti di tempo! Avrai sempre il telefono libero e non dovrai pagare il traffico telefonico per collegarti a Internet. Per saperne di più vai alla pagina http://adsl.yahoo.it
[newbie-it] G450 16M e DH con 8.0
qualcuno di voi utilizza la G450 16M con la 8.0? me la vede come G400 e ho già provato con gli rpm dal sito della Matrox ma niente : non ho provato invece con le sorgenti per questione di tempo. fab
Re: [newbie] Upgrading via RPMs
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:04:57 -0500, Joseph Zitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 01:45:14PM +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: 2. urpmi Mandrake have developed their own dependency resolution utility, urpmi. It can be accessed via the command line or through the Mandrake Software Manager. This looks promising, but attempts to run it fail with: /usr/bin/perl: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/auto/rpmtools/rpmtools.so: undefined symbol: rpmSetVerbosity 4. rpm-get A command-line app designed to be similar to apt-get. It has been written specifically for Mandrake and Red Hat systems, and is part of the official Mandrake distribution. Also promising. One thing I'm not clear on with it: I have the RPMs from Mandrake 8.1 in a directory locally, copied from ISOs. (I tried to upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1 from the ISOs but it died horribly, apparently because it no longer supports my video card, which is working beautifully under 8.0.) Is there a way to point rpm-get to look there rather than out at an FTP site? Looking in /etc/rpm-get.conf was not particularly enlightening. $ rpm -ql rpm-get /etc/rpm-get.conf /sbin/dep-check.sh /sbin/rpm-dep.sh /sbin/rpm-fle2pkg.sh /sbin/rpm-get /sbin/rpm-get-configure /usr/share/doc/rpm-get-1.4 /usr/share/doc/rpm-get-1.4/AUTHORS /usr/share/doc/rpm-get-1.4/BUGS /usr/share/doc/rpm-get-1.4/Changes /usr/share/doc/rpm-get-1.4/LICENSE /usr/share/doc/rpm-get-1.4/README /usr/share/man/man1/rpm-get.1.bz2 /var/rpm-get Take a look at the README file. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan It is easy to be blinded to the essential uselessness of computers by the sense of accomplishment you get from getting them to work at all. -- Douglas Adams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing a new program
Thanks to everyone who replied to my reply re. Internet Explorer - I get the hint that it ain't gonna work :-) The main thing I really wanted it for was to be able to use my old Outlook Express e-mails; I guess I'll have to export and then import them into a Linux mail program instead then. Next question: how do I install new programs on Linux? I've found the Upgrade option and that works fine for stuff held on one of the upgrade FTP sites. However, I've tried downloading a few programs (packages in Linux-speak?), and once they've been downloaded I can't seem to get any further. The one I'm particularly interested in downloads as a .gz file, i.e. a zipped one. If I click it it unzips itself- fine. I then open the folder with the unzipped stuff and click on the file called Setup or Install or something like that, and it gives me an error message saying cannot open the file. Am I doing the right things and have just downloaded the wrong installation file? It's not a .zip file so I'm quite sure I haven't downloaded the Windows installer by mistake. Any help would be great! Thanks Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
Well on their way? They obtained the code from another company who had made it as a variant of the Mosaic client. The deal was for a percentage of sales. Wow, did that other company make a killing! 95% market share times nothing! If you're referring to MSIE 1.0/2.0 (which was indeed very similar to Mosaic), that's a completely different animal. I was specifically referring to MSIE 3.x and beyond. - John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Installing a new program
Well, since your new, I'll try to keep this relatively simple.. If you can, stick to rpm's like those that came with mandrake linux... (to install type in an xterm or console: rpm -ivh package-name.i586.rpm in install one.) they are easier to install and keep a central database so you can uninstall them easily. a gz file is a compressed file, usually the source code of the program, (the stuff that the programmers understand) It has yet to be compiled, (turned into the stuff that your PC understands) more often then not, there is an install or setup file in the compressed file that contains the instructions on how to compile or install it.. it might involve the make command, you need to read the readme or setup instructions as packages differ depending on what they do hope that helps.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Baber Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2001 2:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Installing a new program Thanks to everyone who replied to my reply re. Internet Explorer - I get the hint that it ain't gonna work :-) The main thing I really wanted it for was to be able to use my old Outlook Express e-mails; I guess I'll have to export and then import them into a Linux mail program instead then. Next question: how do I install new programs on Linux? I've found the Upgrade option and that works fine for stuff held on one of the upgrade FTP sites. However, I've tried downloading a few programs (packages in Linux-speak?), and once they've been downloaded I can't seem to get any further. The one I'm particularly interested in downloads as a .gz file, i.e. a zipped one. If I click it it unzips itself- fine. I then open the folder with the unzipped stuff and click on the file called Setup or Install or something like that, and it gives me an error message saying cannot open the file. Am I doing the right things and have just downloaded the wrong installation file? It's not a .zip file so I'm quite sure I haven't downloaded the Windows installer by mistake. Any help would be great! Thanks Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:02:23 -0700, John Hokanson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 22 October 2001 04:07 pm, you wrote: On Monday 22 October 2001 05:11 pm, you wrote: On Monday 22 October 2001 02:50 pm, you wrote: In reply to Eric Baber's words, written Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:07:10 +0100 Spoken like a true newbie. Linux and Microsoft do not mix. Could we PLEASE be a little nicer to the poor guy. They *DO* have IE for non-Microsoft operating systems. I believe Sun has a variant, and they were doing one for HP-UX. Don't forget MacOS and MacOSX. The latter could qualify as a form of Unix. I wonder why MS sees Linux as a threat and not these other Unices. I suppose since it can run on the x86? I think a better question is, would Linux users even use a MS product, or would they find it too revolting? I personally believe that Microsoft Internet Explorer is the best web browser out there. For any platform. Period. Perhaps if you like the following: 1. The browser is automatically installed and starts up at every boot whether you want it or not (which explains why it seems to load so quickly). 2. When it crashes (which is quite often), the whole OS crashes. 3. It's closed-source, so you have no idea what's going on underneath. For example, the 'snapshot' facility used in the XP products will send whatever is in your memory to Microsoft, even if it is private. 6. You like an inherently insecure application - one which has many well-known exploits which can easily compromise your data and privacy. 5. You don't want to ever use Java. In a move against Sun, Java support has been discontinued in IE6. 6. You don't want to ever use plug-ins. In a move against Netscape and other non-IE based browsers, plug-in support has been discontinued in IE6. 7. You like to use applications designed by a company that doesn't care about the above-mentioned problems, and even denies they exist. Would YOU trust such a company? There are many other things as well, but I think you get my point. I was watching intently in the mid to late 90s, and I can tell you right now that MS *DID NOT* attain their position in the browser war entirely by unscrupulous means. They were well on their way even before they started bundling it with Win98. MSIE 3.x would tear anything else apart. And when AOL bought out Netscape, the writing was on the wall. Hopefully the Mozilla folks can actually turn things around. There was far more to Microsoft's unscrupulous means than simple bundling. A main method used by MS to extinguish competition was through APIs. The APIs designed for third-party apps were (and still are) poorly documented and deliberately crippled in functionality and performance. This made it difficult for companies to code apps efficiently. In some cases, individual third-party apps were targeted by MS engineers in an effort to cripple them. Realplayer, DR-DOS and Lotus 123 are prime examples of this (see my sig). At the same time, MS had their own internal set of APIs, which were _never_ released to the public. These APIs were easier to code for, and provided greater functionality and speed by accessing internal OS components (including the kernel) directly. This, of course, is a major security risk, and largely explains why MS apps are so insecure. It is also the reason why MS apps won't work well under WINE. AOL's purchase of Netscape was a major blow for the company. AOL used MSIE, as part of a Faustian deal to have an AOL icon on the Windows desktop. They had little interest in developing the Netscape browser - they only really wanted Netscape's web services. Hopefully things shall change now that the MS deal was allowed to expire. Mozilla technology is already being used in beta versions of the new Compuserve browser. If things go well, I think AOL would adopt it for their main browser. MS had the better product. It's as simple as that. MSIE became leaner and more stable, while Netscape became incresingly more bloated and buggy. No, it isn't as simple as that. MSIE didn't become leaner and more stable, it was just 'assimilated' by Windows so that it looked that way. IE loads up whenever you boot into Windows. When you want to use it, it will pop-up quickly, since it is already in memory. This, combined with MS's use of secret internal APIs, gave MS an unfair advantage over Netscape. When I used to use Windows, I had a utility called 98lite (http://www.98lite.net). It had the capability of 'exorcising' Windows of IE and other bundled apps. The resulting speed and stability boost was amazing. You'll note that virtually NOBODY on this list has recommended Netscape as a browser under Linux. They all recommend things like Ghaleon, Opera, or even Lynx before Netscape. It depends on what you mean by 'Netscape'. Netscape 4 is old and is only maintained by Netscape for bugfixes. It is useful to keep around for compatibility reasons,
Re: [newbie] downloads frozen at 99%
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:54:34 -0700, michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in the process of downloading 2 iso files. Using Konqueror. They are both listed as destination /home/michael/.kde/tmp-michael yada yada...essentially temp files, while downloading. The problem I need help with is that they both stalled at 99% (646.5 of 646.6 MB and 638.3 of 638.4 MB). I am afraid to click 'cancel'...has anyone dealt with this successfully? TIA ! 133+ (but trying) Browsers aren't really the best things to download large files with. For huge files like ISOs, rsync is the best method (provided the server supports it). For everything else, download managers like Downloader for X (NT) or GNOME Transfer Manager (GTM) are excellent. A good FTP app like gFTP or IglooFTP can be useful as well. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Bad design. I'm not touching it with a ten-foot pole. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mac vs Intel architecture deliberations
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:02:30 -0700 (PDT), Mel Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone. I_ve been playing with linux (ML8.1) for a little while on my home machine (an old P166). Our family is getting to the point where we need a second machine, so I_m trying to decide on the merits of going with a PowerPC (Mac) architecture (perhaps a new Mac G4) instead of Intel. I forsee my current machine being used primarily as a linux box (file/print server, database server, secondary desktop for me). We would use the newer machine as the primary (user-friendly) desktop that all family members will be comfortable using. So long as the price is right (and remember that you tend to get better quality with Mac hardware) and you don't buy into the MegaHertz Myth, a Mac would be fine for you. One thing to be wary of is the Classic environment. There is little point in MacOS X if you're running most of your apps through Classic emulation. This situation will obviously improve over time, as more apps get written/ported to MacOS X. One of the things about the Mac that caught my attention was that its new OS X is basically another Unix variant. Aside from being more stable than Windows, Im hoping that each machine would be able to easily mount the others file systems. Has anyone tried this? I would expect it to be simply a matter of starting up an NFS service. I know that you can similarly use SAMBA to serve files to a Windows client, but I understand that this would be more limiting (the linux box cant write to the Windows partitions, etc...). MacOS X is based on FreeBSD, which is a very solid OS indeed. I think GNU/Linux can read the Mac HFS, but don't quote me on that :) I'm quite sure that SAMBA _can_ write to Windows partitions. I know that several distributions (Mandrake, SuSe, and Debian) come in PPC flavours, but I sometimes wonder if they will continue to find it worthwhile to develop for PPC. Although I expect that we would usually use OS X on the Mac, I would eventually want to someday put linux on that machine also. How does everyone else feel about the future of linux support for the Mac? I think the future is bright. Mandrake have only recently moved into the PPC arena, so they must have had a reason to do so. Macs are really hotting-up in both hardware and software. 64-bit G5s are due next year, and the Mac is improving as a server and gaming platform (e.g. the Mac had GeForce3 suport before the PC). MacOS X looks like the best release yet. I think its UNIX roots will get people more interested in trying alternate OSs like GNU/Linux. Apps like OpenOffice, Mozilla and Opera will be available for both MacOS and GNU/linux, so switching between OSs will be relatively easy. I would be interested in any thoughts/experiences people have concerning Mac vs Intel architecture (either relating to the above or in any other respect). Thanks in advance, Mel -- Sridhar Dhanapalan I'm not a big believer in revolutions. What people call revolutions in technology were more of a shift in perception - from big machines to PC's (the _technology_ just evolved, fairly slowly at that), and from PC's to the internet. The next revolution is going to be the same thing - not about the technology itself being revolutionary, but a shift in how you look at it and how you use it. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 00:08:51 -0700, John Hokanson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well on their way? They obtained the code from another company who had made it as a variant of the Mosaic client. The deal was for a percentage of sales. Wow, did that other company make a killing! 95% market share times nothing! If you're referring to MSIE 1.0/2.0 (which was indeed very similar to Mosaic), that's a completely different animal. I was specifically referring to MSIE 3.x and beyond. - John Actually, all versions of MSIE are based on Mosaic. Microsoft never completely rewrote it, and if they did they'd be telling everyone. They just made it look like there was no Mosaic in it, which is especially easy to do when the source is closed. From that point, they built more and more on top. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan My girlfriend always laughs during sex - no matter what she's reading. -- Steve Jobs Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some questions...
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:43:31 -0700, John Hokanson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Am I to understand that KDE 2.1.1 is simply slow? Just out of curiosity I fired up GNOME 1.4, and it ran MUCH faster. I've heard that KDE 2.2.1 fixes a lot of the slowness of 2.1.1. Is this true? KDE 2.2.1 is a bugfix release for KDE 2.2, and it is a little faster than 2.2. I would say it is about on par with 2.1.1 in terms of speed. I mostly use GNOME, which I have found to be significantly faster than KDE. I have heard others say the exact opposite, so I guess it depends on your system. 2. RPMDrake seems jacked to me. I'm trying to remove Netscape 4.x from my system and it won't budge. It just stils there saying it's preparing to remove the selected components and I have to kill RPMDrake. I am using Mandrake 8.0 BTW. Is there a workaround for this? Run rpm --rebuilddb in a root terminal. - John -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Without C, We would only have Pasal, Basi, and obol. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mac vs Intel architecture deliberations
Just to put in my two cents. I have three machines. A 1GHz which I use to use for WindowsME is now a Linux box, WindowsME laptop which handles great and is just for strict use no fun whatsover, and I picked up an iMac about a month ago which the family enjoys mostly since it sticks out from the other two machines and OS. My sister plays with it from time to time, but uses Windows mostly. She doesn't care much for Linux until I installed the Aqua theme to it but mostly doesn't really care about it. My nephew like me wants to play with all of them. The only thing I have really used MacX is for home video editing which by far is superior to Windows and Linux. Easy to use but lacks the extras I can get from Linux and Windows. Linux for the most part has been my playground and classroom. Just the week before I got some good lessons from Professor Jose M. Sanchez and I have a great ole time with it. Basically, I have the best of all three and enjoy it all. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] To mount a CDwriter....
Just to be clear on things here. In order to mount my external HP cdwriter does Linux Mandrake have to detect it first or by mounting a point, if I using the correct terminology, Linux will do the rest and I will have use of my CDwriter? In both LM 7.2 and 8.0 Linux didn't detect my CDwriter during installation although I thought it would have trouble with my DVD ROM but like any ATAPI device it was a breeze for it. Lastly, before you offer your great and unselfish help please keep in my I only just started messing with terminal commands (tar -xzvf, cd name of script, sh ./) but if you can guide me slowly I will try my hardest to retain the info. Until, the next day when it gets cramed with numbers since I am machinist by trade. Thanks in advance. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
Spoken like a true newbie. Linux and Microsoft do not mix. Could we PLEASE be a little nicer to the poor guy. They *DO* have IE for non-Microsoft operating systems. I believe Sun has a variant, and they were doing one for HP-UX. IE is also the browser of choice on the Mac. It evens works well on Mac OS X (one of the few things which does!!) and that is BSD based. Steve. When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] modem problem
hi everybody... I have linux mandrake 8.1 installed on my computer. I have an internal modem and as you know I can not connect internet using my modem... I heard that some programs are developed to solve this problem, but I couldn't find any information anywhere... If there is somebody there who knows anything about that please reply:) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
Hello! Don't forget MacOS and MacOSX. The latter could qualify as a form of Unix. I wonder why MS sees Linux as a threat and not these other Unices. I suppose since it can run on the x86? Because Linux is dangerous for MS, and MacOS, HP-UX, Solaris, etc are not. The reason is simply that Linux is free or at least low-cost is you consider that you should buy a distribution. Workstations are expensive, and therefore will never get a significant share in the consumer world. Therefore, MS can keep a large share when competing with non-free systems, but is threatened by Linux boxes (very low-cost OS with tons of freeware, very reliable, almost insensitive to viruses, that can run on cheap hardware, and with lots of very cheap hardwares supported). Pascal Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Full of questions tonight
Just noticed after importing the bookmarks from Netscape my Galeon scrolls smoothly and pricely, but only through the Netscape's weblinks. Before Netscape didn't only after I downloaded and installed the Flash plugin into my user account, didn't feel like doing a system wide installation. Is there a correlation here or just coincidence? If I install the plugin system wide will Galeon work as smoothly? Too much caffeine tonight! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Terrorists strike at my Netscape mail?
Here's a funny thing! I opened Netscape to get my mail the other day and found my Newbie folder which had several hundred messages in it, to be completely empty. When I downloaded my mail, nothing came down from this mailing list despite the fact that there were definitely messages on the server. On checking the properties of the Newbie folder, I found that the language setting had altered itself to Arabic. I tried to alter it back to a Western setiing but it did not close on clicking OK and closing it using the 'x' would not retain the altered setting. Has anyone else encountered and corrected a similar problem? I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that Netscape 6.1 is a steaming pile of pants. For the moment at least, I'm using Kmail. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] gnome desktop (M8.1, Gnome, Desktop)
Hi All of a sudden all my desktop Icons are gone, I also can select the desktop itself (drag left mouse button over desktop), right click. It's almost like the desktop is gone. I'm using the version of gnome that comes with M8.1 I looked in ~/.gnome-desktop and they are there. Any ideas? Also how do I create icons in gnome? Thanx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing a new program
For a newbie installing packages in RPM format is MUCH the easiest way to do it. You should look for the program in the format 'programname-version.i586.mdk.rpm' The 'mdk' indicates it was written for use in a Mandrake system. If you cannot find an RPM in that format on the site you are searching, then try searching at www.rpmfind.net where you will find hundreds of programmes in Mandrake format. Non 'mdk' rpm's may work, but not always. (BTW to start with you should avoid files you see labelled 'Mandrake Cooker' They are 'bleeding edge' packages which may well require you to extensively upgrade your system.) To install an RPM all you have to do is right click in Konqueror and when the dialogue box opens asking if you want to save it or open it, then just select 'Open' the Mandrake installer will then download it and install it as one simple action. The only thing you might have to do then is locate where it has been installed and define a 'K menu' entry (sometimes this is automatic as well) Once you are comfortable with this simple method you can progress to rebuilding source RPM's, and then move onto 'tarballs' and compiling your own code. BTW. Are you sure the programme you want is not already on your Mandrake discs? There is an awful lot on there... On Tuesday 23 October 2001 7:15 am, Eric Baber wrote: Thanks to everyone who replied to my reply re. Internet Explorer - I get the hint that it ain't gonna work :-) The main thing I really wanted it for was to be able to use my old Outlook Express e-mails; I guess I'll have to export and then import them into a Linux mail program instead then. Next question: how do I install new programs on Linux? I've found the As for your Outlook Express. Are you aware that KMail will import from Outlook Express? All you have to do is select File Import and a window pops up offering to import from Outlook Express. You can point it to your existing windows partion because while windows cannot read Linux files, Linux can read Windows files no problem. Just import from /mnt/windows/Program Files/etc. In general, whatever you want to do, Linux can do it.. But the learning curve is steep... Derek Upgrade option and that works fine for stuff held on one of the upgrade FTP sites. However, I've tried downloading a few programs (packages in Linux-speak?), and once they've been downloaded I can't seem to get any further. The one I'm particularly interested in downloads as a .gz file, i.e. a zipped one. If I click it it unzips itself- fine. I then open the folder with the unzipped stuff and click on the file called Setup or Install or something like that, and it gives me an error message saying cannot open the file. Am I doing the right things and have just downloaded the wrong installation file? It's not a .zip file so I'm quite sure I haven't downloaded the Windows installer by mistake. Any help would be great! Thanks Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Gnome apps mouse focus
Hi I did a reinstall of mandrake 8.1 and have lost a setting somewhere. When I used to run Gmome apps like Pan and Sylpheed in KDE the window focus would follow the mouse, now I have to click in a frame to focus it. For example, in Sylpheed if the mouse is in the message view frame, and I scroll the mouse to view the message, the thread frame or folder frame scrolls instead until I click in the message view frame to focus it. Its very annoying. I didn't used to do this. I use KDE not Gnome, and I've tried every setting I think of in Gnome Control Centre to put it to rights, but nothing works. How do I get my scroll mouse to behave properly in Gnome apps? There must be a setting in Gnome that will do this, but I'm damned if I can find it. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
on 10/23/01 1:57 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5. You don't want to ever use Java. In a move against Sun, Java support has been discontinued in IE6. Actually I dont ever want to use Java in a webpage. I hate java applets. Most people forget or don't realize there's another, far superior, version of IE out there, the Macintosh version (as you mentioned below). This version of IE truly is the best browser ever made. The most standards compliant of any browser for css, html and javascript. MS has no special access to the OS, they make Apple apps just like everyone else does. Apple enforces a strict set of interface guidelines, which miraculously MS follows. It's fast, stable, intuitive just overall excellent. When Linux gets a browser like this (and they're getting there) I'll be very happy. Mozilla itself, which is largely developed by Netscape, is shaping up to be a fine browser, but it still has some issues to work out. I think Mozilla has the most potential of the Linux browsers. It will become a great browser before the others IMO. Konqueror is also nice, but renders some pages rather poorly. Mac users are generally apprehensive when it comes to using MS applications I dont think that's true anymore, at least with web browsers. Netscape for the Mac has basically always sucked. Netscape 6 for the Mac didn't even work when they first shipped it. IE for the Mac was great from the beginning, and most noticed. Mac magazines have been praising IE for a long time now. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] LISA
LM8.0 put the lisa configuration files in the wrong place! You need to move the reslisarc and lisarc file that the KDE Control panel creates to ~/.reslisarc ~/.lisarc respectively. Use the control panel to add your subnet broadcast address and workgroup computers you want scanned. Lastly, you'll need to modify /etc/rc.d/rc.local to add the startup for the actual lisa and reslisa program. Under LM8.1 relisa dies if I start it this way and I am forced to run it manually as root. It becomes a daemon once run and permits you to browse the Winblows machines from within Konqueror. AFAIK you still need Samba to actually access them, although I may be wrong on this... (Someone correct me please!) -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colin Jenkins |Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:17 AM |To: linux-newbi group |Subject: [newbie] LISA | | |Hello all, |I just know this must be really obvious, but so far iv'e had |no luck. What deails do you have to enter in Lisa to get |browsing to work? (using lm80) | | | | | |Colin Jenkins |ICQ: 650611 registered linux user 223862 |To be or not to be is true. Or maybe not. | | | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH
Both the VIA and ALiMagiK boards utilize Winbond chips. There is nothing wrong with these boards, but there is a -BIG- bug with the Winbond clock/timer chips. These Winbond chips are what keeps the real time clock going during power offs, etc. It seems that the Winbond clocks will randomly change their reference tick rate, as if they had a bad crystal reference. As a result they will pick up or loose speed. Fortunately Linux tries to work around this and set things right (BTW: Windows does not and you'll gain or loose 15 minutes a day or MORE as a result!), but you'll start to see a slew of messages about this in the kernel logs. You might want to turn this off, and/or not use these boards if you are performing anything which is time intensive. Linux uses an IRQ drive clock to keep it's own separate system clock and then writes out it's time to the CMOS/hardware clock upon power down. This is not foolproof though, and you should really set your machine to a time reference in the Control Panel, so that Linux will adjust itself several times a day. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert MacLean |Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:33 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH | | |Does any here use the GA-7ZXH motherboard with M8 or M8.1? |I want to buy it but I just want to see if it will work first. |I checked mandrakes hardware list and they had the GA-7ZXR |(raid version), so I think it will, but I just want to check |first. It uses the VIA KT133A chipset. thanx | |___ |Robert MacLean | | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH
how do i turn it off? ___ Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: Jose M. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:41 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH Both the VIA and ALiMagiK boards utilize Winbond chips. There is nothing wrong with these boards, but there is a -BIG- bug with the Winbond clock/timer chips. These Winbond chips are what keeps the real time clock going during power offs, etc. It seems that the Winbond clocks will randomly change their reference tick rate, as if they had a bad crystal reference. As a result they will pick up or loose speed. Fortunately Linux tries to work around this and set things right (BTW: Windows does not and you'll gain or loose 15 minutes a day or MORE as a result!), but you'll start to see a slew of messages about this in the kernel logs. You might want to turn this off, and/or not use these boards if you are performing anything which is time intensive. Linux uses an IRQ drive clock to keep it's own separate system clock and then writes out it's time to the CMOS/hardware clock upon power down. This is not foolproof though, and you should really set your machine to a time reference in the Control Panel, so that Linux will adjust itself several times a day. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert MacLean |Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:33 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH | | |Does any here use the GA-7ZXH motherboard with M8 or M8.1? |I want to buy it but I just want to see if it will work first. |I checked mandrakes hardware list and they had the GA-7ZXR |(raid version), so I think it will, but I just want to check |first. It uses the VIA KT133A chipset. thanx | |___ |Robert MacLean | | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gnome desktop (M8.1, Gnome, Desktop)
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:23:54 +0200, Robert MacLean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All of a sudden all my desktop Icons are gone, I also can select the desktop itself (drag left mouse button over desktop), right click. It's almost like the desktop is gone. I'm using the version of gnome that comes with M8.1 I looked in ~/.gnome-desktop and they are there. Any ideas? Also how do I create icons in gnome? Thanx Sounds like your desktop manager is not loaded. In GNOME 1.4 your desktop can be managed by either GMC or Nautilus. If you normally use GMC, just run the command gmc. If you use Nautilus, run nautilus and make sure that it is configured to manage your desktop (in the preferences; in advanced mode). -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Once you realize that documentation should be laughed at, peed upon, put on fire, and just ridiculed in general, THEN, and only then, have you reached the level where you can safely read it and try to use it to actually implement a driver. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Terrorists strike at my Netscape mail?
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:54:28 +0100, Graham Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a funny thing! I opened Netscape to get my mail the other day and found my Newbie folder which had several hundred messages in it, to be completely empty. When I downloaded my mail, nothing came down from this mailing list despite the fact that there were definitely messages on the server. On checking the properties of the Newbie folder, I found that the language setting had altered itself to Arabic. I tried to alter it back to a Western setiing but it did not close on clicking OK and closing it using the 'x' would not retain the altered setting. Has anyone else encountered and corrected a similar problem? I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that Netscape 6.1 is a steaming pile of pants. For the moment at least, I'm using Kmail. Mozilla 0.9.5 (the latest at the time of writing) should be able to read your Netscape mail. Netscape 6.1 is based on Mozilla 0.9.2 (i.e. it's three Mozilla versions behind). You may also want to have a look at Sylpheed. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan In short, Microsoft is no more able to build secure products than England's cricket team is able to withstand the bowling of Australia's bowlers. -- Leyden, J., MS firewall is holier than the Pope, The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk), 2001-08-20. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Gnome apps mouse focus
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:27:59 +, shipahoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:57:19 +0200 H McM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remove a package called imwheel. That worked. Thanks. It makes you wonder why imwheel is there in the first place. I've been wondering this for a _long_ time. GTK+ (including GNOME) and QT (including KDE2) apps have full wheel-mouse support. Other apps like Netscape and Nedit can be quite easily modified to have a similar functionality. Imwheel messes-up the native wheel support in these apps, but on the plus-side it allows just about any app to scroll with the wheel. Since most the X apps you'll ever use would have native support, I can't see why Mandrake loads this by default. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan The three Rs of Microsoft support: Retry, Reboot, Reinstall. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mac vs Intel architecture deliberations
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:35:27 +0100, Steve Borrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I know that several distributions (Mandrake, SuSe, and Debian) come in PPC flavours, but I sometimes wonder if they will continue to find it worthwhile to develop for PPC. Although I expect that we would usually use OS X on the Mac, I would eventually want to someday put linux on that machine also. How does everyone else feel about the future of linux support for the Mac? I think the future is bright. Mandrake have only recently moved into the PPC arena, so they must have had a reason to do so. Macs are really hotting-up in both hardware and software. 64-bit G5s are due next year, and the Mac is improving as a server and gaming platform (e.g. the Mac had GeForce3 suport before the PC). MacOS X looks like the best release yet. I think its UNIX roots will get people more interested in trying alternate OSs like GNU/Linux. Apps like OpenOffice, Mozilla and Opera will be available for both MacOS and GNU/linux, so switching between OSs will be relatively easy. There is also a distro called Yellow Dog for the PPC, which I tried and gave up on. I currently triple boot my Mac G4. I have Mac OS 9.0.1, Mac OS X (inc. 9.1) and Mandrake Linux for PPC. I have to say that I was pretty impressed with the Mandrake install. Mac OS X, now there is the problem. Coming from a unix background I thought, great, Unix on my Mac! Based on FreeBSD so it should be pretty good. However I have run into several fundamental flaws in it which seem to cause pain to Unix types and Mac types. Annoying things like not being able to su to root, having to sudo everything. From the Mac side of things, it refuses to remember where my windows are when it restarts and various other annoying things. I tend to think that Mac OS X is a good start, but no more. I think I could be described as a BIG fan of Mac OS 11 :) Ok, enough ranting. As to the longevity and support of Linux on PPC, I have to say I think that Mac OS X is only going to increase that interest. Some users will be more than happy with the somewhat limited Linux like stuff exposed in Mac OS X, while others will think, if only I could. and they may well give Linux a try. Additionally, I think Mac OS X has given the PPC market a bit of a revival and is persudaing traditionally skeptial users, like me, that the Mac is not just an artists and designers toy. Just my £0.02. Steve. I've been wondering this for a while: Does MacOS X keep a clear root/user distinction like other Unicies, does it blur them (like WinNT/2K) or doesn't it have any such distinction (like WinXP Home)? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Yeah, yeah, it's 7PM Christmas Eve over there, and you're in the middle of your Christmas dinner. You might feel that it's unreasonable of me to ask you to test out my latest crazy idea. How selfish of you. Get back there in front of the computer NOW. Christmas can wait. Linus the Grinch Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Gnome apps mouse focus
On Tuesday 23 October 2001 3:41 pm, you wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:27:59 +, shipahoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:57:19 +0200 H McM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remove a package called imwheel. That worked. Thanks. It makes you wonder why imwheel is there in the first place. I've been wondering this for a _long_ time. GTK+ (including GNOME) and QT (including KDE2) apps have full wheel-mouse support. Other apps like Netscape and Nedit can be quite easily modified to have a similar functionality. Imwheel messes-up the native wheel support in these apps, but on the plus-side it allows just about any app to scroll with the wheel. Since most the X apps you'll ever use would have native support, I can't see why Mandrake loads this by default. Or you could exclude certain apps from using imwheel as this post by Sevatio describes http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg73993.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How can I determine if I'm root in a script
I'm trying to write a bash script to install some files but it must be run as root. Is there a way that I can get my script to check to see if it has root priviledges and if not exit out? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How can I determine if I'm root in a script
In reply to Mark Johnson's words, written Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:18:02 -0500 Check the value of $UID. It should be 0 for root. Paul I'm trying to write a bash script to install some files but it must be run as root. Is there a way that I can get my script to check to see if it has root priviledges and if not exit out? -- A mistake is evidence that someone tried to do something. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] windows on linux
on 10/23/01 3:44 PM, Dechao Wang at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know what and where is the program that I can run windows' applications from linux box? There's wine, the windows emulator. It takes a windows application and translates the calls it makes into something X can handle, so you can run the app right in X. www.winehq.com Then there's vmware and win4lin. Which are very different solutions than wine. They allow you to run a full fledged Windows installation and Linux at the same time. vmware has a trial version which is a good way to see if this is what you want, www.vmware.com. win4lin has no trial version, www.netraverse.com and I've never used it. I can give my nod to vmware, I'm very satisfied with it. It has some quirks and can be a pain to get configured and running the way you want. But once it's up it's really nice. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] windows on linux
goodaye, the program you would be after is WIN4LIN3 you can find out more about it here http://www.netraverse.com/ regards, russell. --- Dechao Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know what and where is the program that I can run windows' applications from linux box? Cheers, Dechao Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Nokia Game is on again. Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new all media adventure before November 3rd. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] windows on linux
Wine? If not, please go easy on me!! I have no work to do and I'm bored. Has anyone read all of Sridhar's footer's, some are bloody funny :o) -Original Message- From: Dechao Wang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 October 2001 21:44 To: newbie Subject: [newbie] windows on linux Does anybody know what and where is the program that I can run windows' applications from linux box? Cheers, Dechao Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Xwidnows or KDE problem
I am all sorts of problems with either the xserver or KDE, not sure which. At times it just decides to freeze and I mean full blown windows freeze. I have to power down to get out of it. Then sometimes if I open konqueror file browser the scroll bar just goes crazy and no files show up, have to use xkill to get rid of it. Then atlaest half of the time when I try to shutdown my PC, I click logout and the screen just goes black and does nothing. Any one having this same problem? Anyone have a clue why it is happening? I am about ready to just reinstall, though I know it happened with my last PC a few times too. Confused Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mac vs Intel architecture deliberations
Do you find that winME is less stable than say winNT or 2000? On Tuesday 23 October 2001 03:10 am, Robert wrote: Just to put in my two cents. I have three machines. A 1GHz which I use to use for WindowsME is now a Linux box, WindowsME laptop which handles great and is just for strict use no fun whatsover, and I picked up an iMac about a month ago which the family enjoys mostly since it sticks out from the other two machines and OS. My sister plays with it from time to time, but uses Windows mostly. She doesn't care much for Linux until I installed the Aqua theme to it but mostly doesn't really care about it. My nephew like me wants to play with all of them. The only thing I have really used MacX is for home video editing which by far is superior to Windows and Linux. Easy to use but lacks the extras I can get from Linux and Windows. Linux for the most part has been my playground and classroom. Just the week before I got some good lessons from Professor Jose M. Sanchez and I have a great ole time with it. Basically, I have the best of all three and enjoy it all. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Terrorists strike at my Netscape mail?
Yeah I like the new K mail myself, one of my buds just ditched winblows to go to Linux, yaaay! He said he likes K mail because it reminds him of Eudora, the only thing that was holding him back until I showed him Linux and K mail. On Tuesday 23 October 2001 02:54 am, you wrote: Here's a funny thing! I opened Netscape to get my mail the other day and found my Newbie folder which had several hundred messages in it, to be completely empty. When I downloaded my mail, nothing came down from this mailing list despite the fact that there were definitely messages on the server. On checking the properties of the Newbie folder, I found that the language setting had altered itself to Arabic. I tried to alter it back to a Western setiing but it did not close on clicking OK and closing it using the 'x' would not retain the altered setting. Has anyone else encountered and corrected a similar problem? I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that Netscape 6.1 is a steaming pile of pants. For the moment at least, I'm using Kmail. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How can I determine if I'm root in a script
You could try 'whoami'. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 10:18 AM 10/23/2001 -0500, you wrote: I'm trying to write a bash script to install some files but it must be run as root. Is there a way that I can get my script to check to see if it has root priviledges and if not exit out? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH
Nope it's common to all Winbond equipped motherboards. Read the timer.h and timer.c kernel files (which is where I originally found all of this) for more info on the problem. If your motherboard does not have the Winbond timer chip you are fine. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of shadowbuilder |Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 11:13 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: RE: [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH | | |I haven't come across this bug before, was it just in the |early revisions or has it been sorted? I use my PC to |dual-boot with Win98se (for the games)and Mandrake8.1 and i |haven't experienced any problem with the time at all within |either OS. I am glad to hear that Linux tries to work round it though |:) | |Wayne | |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert MacLean |Sent: 23 October 2001 15:24 |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH | | |how do i turn it off? | |___ |Robert MacLean |- Original Message - |From: Jose M. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:41 PM |Subject: RE: [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH | | | Both the VIA and ALiMagiK boards utilize Winbond chips. | | There is nothing wrong with these boards, but there is a -BIG- bug |with | the Winbond clock/timer chips. | | These Winbond chips are what keeps the real time clock going during | power offs, etc. | | It seems that the Winbond clocks will randomly change their |reference | tick rate, as if they had a bad crystal reference. | | As a result they will pick up or loose speed. | | Fortunately Linux tries to work around this and set things right |(BTW: | Windows does not and you'll gain or loose 15 minutes a day or MORE |as a | result!), but you'll start to see a slew of messages about this in |the | kernel logs. | | You might want to turn this off, and/or not use these boards if you |are | performing anything which is time intensive. | | Linux uses an IRQ drive clock to keep it's own separate system clock |and | then writes out it's time to the CMOS/hardware clock upon power |down. | This is not foolproof though, and you should really set your machine |to | a time reference in the Control Panel, so that Linux will adjust |itself | several times a day. | | -JMS | | | |-Original Message- | |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert |MacLean | |Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:33 AM | |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Subject: [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH | | | | | |Does any here use the GA-7ZXH motherboard with M8 or M8.1? | |I want to buy it but I just want to see if it will work first. I | |checked mandrakes hardware list and they had the GA-7ZXR (raid | |version), so I think it will, but I just want to check |first. It uses | |the VIA KT133A chipset. thanx | | | |___ | |Robert MacLean | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ISDN in USA
I just installed v8.1 I have a USR (USRobotics) Sportster 128k ISA modem. Upon Mandrake installation, I was offered the options of Euro-ISDN or ISDN with no D channel support. Neither of these will work in the US. Does anyone know definitively if ISDN4Linux supports D channel? If not, what do I need to install to get this modem to work? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Unable to boot into X
Greetings. I can't tell what happened, but I'm no longer able to boot straight into X. I have to first logon and then startx. This is the copy of my /etc/inittab: . . id:5:initdefault: # System initialization. si::sysinit:/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit l0:0:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 0 l1:1:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 1 l2:2:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 2 l3:3:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 3 l4:4:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 4 l5:5:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 5 l6:6:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 6 # Things to run in every runlevel. ud::once:/sbin/update # Trap CTRL-ALT-DELETE ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now # When our UPS tells us power has failed, assume we have a few minutes # of power left. Schedule a shutdown for 2 minutes from now. # This does, of course, assume you have powerd installed and your # UPS connected and working correctly. pf::powerfail:/sbin/shutdown -f -h +2 Power Failure; System Shutting Down # If power was restored before the shutdown kicked in, cancel it. pr:12345:powerokwait:/sbin/shutdown -c Power Restored; Shutdown Cancelled # Run gettys in standard runlevels 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1 2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty2 3:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty3 4:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty4 5:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty5 6:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty6 # Run xdm in runlevel 5 # xdm is now a separate service x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon Help will highlt be appreciated. Saul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
you are kidding right? the browser that loads virus directly from web pages? the browser that for a while featured write once, write anywhere, even over your system files technology? the browser that doesn't even pretend to try to be standards compliant? ...and talk about small! try upgrading from a system with no trace of IE to the latest version. several steps (and over 82 megs of download) later you will have a new os pretending to be a browser. are you actually serious? do you just not understand what is going on under the hood there? are you this clueless? On Monday 22 October 2001 17:02, you spoke unto me thusly: I think a better question is, would Linux users even use a MS product, or would they find it too revolting? I personally believe that Microsoft Internet Explorer is the best web browser out there. -- Wherever you go, there you are. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] windows on linux
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 17:14:09 +0100, Steve Borrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's wine, the windows emulator. It takes a windows application and translates the calls it makes into something X can handle, so you can run the app right in X. www.winehq.com smug Just because I am in a pedantic mood, I would like to point out that saying wine is a windows emulator is an oxymoron. WINE stands for Wine is not an emulator, therefore proving itself that your statement is woefully inaccurate. *grin* /smug Quite true. Strictly speaking, WINE is simply an independently-created (i.e. contains no Windows code whatsoever) compatability layer which translates Windows calls to GNU/Linux ones (as mentioned above). An emulator, on the other hand, runs an entire OS (or a clone) inside a virtual machine (like how Java apps run). Examples include Plex86, FreeDOS, VMware and Win4Lin. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Also note how I said that it is the BSD people I despise. Not the HP-UX implementation. The HP-UX one is not pretty, but it works. But I hold open source people to higher standards. They are supposed to be the people who do programming because it's an art-form, not because it's their job. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xwidnows or KDE problem
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:06:24 -0400, Jon Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am all sorts of problems with either the xserver or KDE, not sure which. At times it just decides to freeze and I mean full blown windows freeze. I have to power down to get out of it. Then sometimes if I open konqueror file browser the scroll bar just goes crazy and no files show up, have to use xkill to get rid of it. Then atlaest half of the time when I try to shutdown my PC, I click logout and the screen just goes black and does nothing. Any one having this same problem? Anyone have a clue why it is happening? I am about ready to just reinstall, though I know it happened with my last PC a few times too. Confused This behaviour is obviously not meant to happen :) When X freezes, can you kill it with the ctrl-alt-backspace key combo? Can you switch to another console with ctrl-alt-F[1-6]? If you can, then only X has crashed. If you can't do these, the system as a whole has crashed. Is there any pattern to make this happen? For example, are there any particular apps which can trigger this? Does the same problem occur in other window managers and environments? Try using GNOME for a while and see what happens. I remember that when KDE 2.0 was released last year I had tremendous problems with stability. GNOME, however, was as solid as a rock. The KDE problem for me was fixed with 2.1. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Bad design. I'm not touching it with a ten-foot pole. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to boot into X
In reply to Saul Lugoye's words, written Tue, 23 Oct 2001 16:56:44 +0100 I can't tell what happened, but I'm no longer able to boot straight into X. I have to first logon and then startx. This is the copy of my /etc/inittab: . . id:5:initdefault: l5:5:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 5 Check to see if you /etc/rc.d/rc file is somehow corrupt. If needed I can send you mine (mandrake 8.0) Paul -- A mistake is evidence that someone tried to do something. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] windows on linux
on 10/23/01 11:14 AM, Steve Borrett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's wine, the windows emulator. It takes a windows application and translates the calls it makes into something X can handle, so you can run the app right in X. www.winehq.com smug Just because I am in a pedantic mood, I would like to point out that saying wine is a windows emulator is an oxymoron. WINE stands for Wine is not an emulator, therefore proving itself that your statement is woefully inaccurate. *grin* /smug Yes, I'm well aware of that. But pointing out the technicalities of what Wine is and isn't, isn't exactly necessary to inform the OP of a program that will let him run Windows apps in a Linux environment (excuse me, a GNU/Linux environment). Calling it an emulator probably gives him an idea of what it does, a reference point. If he's really interested in what it does, he can read up on it at the URL I gave him. What's with the unnecessary attitude? Last I heard, being in a pedantic mood and wrapping your post with cute little tags is not a viable excuse to be an ass for no reason. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH
No, i've experienced no problems yet, but i disabled the onboard sound because i got a Soundblaster Live Platinum card for my anniversary from my wife :) (she bought it not knowing i had onboard sound) so i never got to test the AC97 sound for myself, but a mate of mine also uses this MB (that's why i bought it) and he runs Mandrake 8.1 and hasn't had any trouble at all, says it works great. Wayne Michael wrote: You have no problems with the AC 97 sound? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] AOL and Mandrake 8.0
I'm a bit late with this one! I had a chat with AOL's online help, I wrote a large paragraph of my situation, saying what info I needed , or thought I needed, to get AOL going in Win4Lin. His answer, AOL does not support Linux, 10 minutes of arguing later and it ends with a thank you and good bye. Now I know AOL aren't considered the best ISP around but I have no other problems with them, and they're cheap! I'm going home to try it again, the setup, not the arguing!! I'll let you know if it all goes t*ts up!!! -Original Message- From: Gordon Burgess-Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 21:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] AOL and Mandrake 8.0 Has anyone heard of aol being got running using WINE or WIN4LIN or something like that? I ask because I'm using aol as a dial-up (flat rate unmetered access) while waiting for NTL cable modem to come to my area! Thanks Gordon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] windows on linux
GO ON SON, HIT 'EM He was only joking, sometimes there's no other way to say, or point something out with out coming across like you're being a smart arse, thats why you should litter your email with symbols, then you can only hope that people take it as info and not someone having a go! Now shake hands and say sorry. I think I'll change my name to Mum!! -Original Message- From: Matt Greer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 October 2001 18:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] windows on linux on 10/23/01 11:14 AM, Steve Borrett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's wine, the windows emulator. It takes a windows application and translates the calls it makes into something X can handle, so you can run the app right in X. www.winehq.com smug Just because I am in a pedantic mood, I would like to point out that saying wine is a windows emulator is an oxymoron. WINE stands for Wine is not an emulator, therefore proving itself that your statement is woefully inaccurate. *grin* /smug Yes, I'm well aware of that. But pointing out the technicalities of what Wine is and isn't, isn't exactly necessary to inform the OP of a program that will let him run Windows apps in a Linux environment (excuse me, a GNU/Linux environment). Calling it an emulator probably gives him an idea of what it does, a reference point. If he's really interested in what it does, he can read up on it at the URL I gave him. What's with the unnecessary attitude? Last I heard, being in a pedantic mood and wrapping your post with cute little tags is not a viable excuse to be an ass for no reason. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] AOL and Mandrake 8.0
aol no workie... period Please be aware that aol changes windows registry settings, updated/pollutes your network setting... denudes ie, changes your modem dialing string.. and then when you update your windows, using windows update... or when you install software that looks for the windows default setting/files in the preffered locations... those files are gone or renamed to aol equivelents. microsoft will attempt to replace the files, but aol will the re update your system, before you log off... its the same with real audio... and micros media player... its a battle zone don't get me started about the cute little icons each program sticks in my system tray i hate winblows... chris On 23 Oct 2001, at 18:30, Adrian Lynch wrote: I'm a bit late with this one! I had a chat with AOL's online help, I wrote a large paragraph of my situation, saying what info I needed , or thought I needed, to get AOL going in Win4Lin. His answer, AOL does not support Linux, 10 minutes of arguing later and it ends with a thank you and good bye. Now I know AOL aren't considered the best ISP around but I have no other problems with them, and they're cheap! I'm going home to try it again, the setup, not the arguing!! I'll let you know if it all goes t*ts up!!! -Original Message- From: Gordon Burgess-Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 21:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] AOL and Mandrake 8.0 Has anyone heard of aol being got running using WINE or WIN4LIN or something like that? I ask because I'm using aol as a dial-up (flat rate unmetered access) while waiting for NTL cable modem to come to my area! Thanks Gordon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing a new program
On Tuesday 23 October 2001 12:47, you wrote: The main program I want to install is Netscape 6 (though I've now played with Galeon and Konqueror, both of which actually look like they're pretty good). From the NS site I've downloaded the installation file, but that's a .tar.gz file and that's giving me a headache! Does anyone know if there's an RPM-format installation package for NS6? No need. If you have Galeon, then you *must* already have Mozilla. Which is NS6 without all the commercial bumph. -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC Help Microsoft stamp out software piracy: give Linux to a friend today.. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't run any GUI from root shell?
If you are in KDE, hit ALT-F2 then type xhost +localhost and hit enter. This will allow for local access. On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Jon Doe wrote: What would cause this? If I open a terminal window, su to root and type say kpackage, I get this error: Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server kpackage: cannot connect to X server :0.0 Happens with nmapfe and any GUI program. I can't even run Mandrake Control Center as su to upgrade. -- Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi everybody... I have linux mandrake 8.1 installed on my computer. I have an internal modem and as you know I can not connect internet using my modem... I heard that some programs are developed to solve this problem, but I couldn't find any information anywhereç... If there is somebody there who knows anything about that please reply:) This message doesn't say much. What kind of modem do you have, etc? -- Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Suggestions on FTP and Firewall software on LM81
I was wondering what would be the best freeware FTP and firewall setup. Would I need a program or any executable or would it be better to just modify things directly? I know FTP needs a daemon and the firewall could just use the IPTABLES. What is the best. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AOL and Mandrake 8.0
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:30:01 +0100 Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] cleverly noted: I'm a bit late with this one! I had a chat with AOL's online help, I wrote a large paragraph of my situation, saying what info I needed , or thought I needed, to get AOL going in Win4Lin. His answer, AOL does not support Linux, 10 minutes of arguing later and it ends with a thank you and good bye. Now I know AOL aren't considered the best ISP around but I have no other problems with them, and they're cheap! I'm going home to try it again, the setup, not the arguing!! I'll let you know if it all goes t*ts up!!! What do you consider cheap?? I pay less than $16 a month for unlimited dial-up access, haven't gotten a busy signal since 1995, have never been cut off even after half an hour of inactivity, and have gotten excellent, polite service whenever I have asked for it. While they do not officially support linux, they do have a page on their website that gives flawless stepxstep instructions on getting set up with linux, including how to edit /etc/resolv.conf Mike -- A world where some live in comfort and plenty, while half of the human race lives on less than $2 a day, is neither just, nor stable. -PRESIDENT BUSH (dubya) _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Suggestions on FTP and Firewall software on LM81
Thats what I thought. Now I just have to find out how to get inetd to work with proftp. If I run inetd and try to connect, it replys connection rejected if I run /usr/sbin/in.proftpd manually it works fine, of corse, its permanently loaded From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Suggestions on FTP and Firewall software on LM81 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 20:50:33 -0400 In reply to Great Dragon's words, written Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:31:15 -0500 I was wondering what would be the best freeware FTP and firewall setup. Would I need a program or any executable or would it be better to just modify things directly? I know FTP needs a daemon and the firewall could just use the IPTABLES. What is the best. ProFTP is installed by default and is great. IPTables is used by def. in 2.4.x kernels, Ipchains in lower kernels. Both are good. At least they have never let me down :) Paul -- A mistake is evidence that someone tried to do something. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues
Thanks Dave, I will check on this and post you back. Since my system is not really live yet (I'm still dual booting from WinMe) I did a complete reinstall last night. I had tried so many leads that I wasn't sure what state my system was in, and (sigh) didn't document as I went. I will this time. -Paul --- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 22 October 2001 10:13, Paul Schwebel opined on the topic: Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues Dave, Thanks for the clarification on my questions. Earthlink/Mindspring has 3 nameservers for their Mindspring customers (of which I am one). They are: 207.69.188.185 207.69.188.186 207.69.188.187 I use the first two in my resolv.conf files and in the rp-pppoe setup. I can ping these numbers. Also, I can't seem to connect with their email servers, pop.mindspring.com and smtp.mindspring.com, so I'm not sure this is strictly a DNS problem, unless DNS is also required to resolve these names. Hmm, now that I think about it, I guess DNS must be involved. Yes, you do need DNS to resolve those, too ;-) Is there a simple 'enable DNS' checkbox that I've missed? No, Linux should try to use DNS by default, as long as you have the IP addresses in your resolv.conf. You will need bind-utils installed. Do this in an xterm: rpm -qa|grep bind and see if you get a bind-utils package. If not, you will need to install it. If you know what bind is (a full DNS server), then you may guess that bind-utils is just a set of tools for domain name resolution and other information gathering. Now, I used to have a SuSE distribution (7.1), but I switched to Mandrake because of what appeared to be a more user friendly wrapper around the OS. I was able to connect with SuSE on the box, and I can connect under Win, so I'm not having a hardware issue. I have only used SUSe once, and it was a 6.x version. Back then (a couple of years ago), it seemed pretty good, but I ended up switching to Caldera, and then switching to Mandrake at the suggestion of a friend. Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE71JYUA68l26XsZUYRAsO5AKCSJa05bH14LFCwsLwn5UjJ1mM8MACg3GIP ak7eZasT8/EGvnk2KtXVFW4= =Yf1X -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH
I have two machines with the GA-7ZX-1 mobo. LM8.0 made the system clock very inaccurate. LM8.1 made that same system clock even worse. I'm very disappointed with this problem. Although adjtimex can be used to help this, it still results in timekeeping that is less accurate than my childhood windup clock. Sevatio Original Message On 10/23/01, 4:33:09 AM, Robert MacLean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH: Does any here use the GA-7ZXH motherboard with M8 or M8.1? I want to buy it but I just want to see if it will work first. I checked mandrakes hardware list and they had the GA-7ZXR (raid version), so I think it will, but I just want to check first. It uses the VIA KT133A chipset. thanx ___ Robert MacLean Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Suggestions on FTP and Firewall software on LM81
On Tuesday 23 October 2001 01:31 pm, you wrote: I was wondering what would be the best freeware FTP and firewall setup. Would I need a program or any executable or would it be better to just modify things directly? I know FTP needs a daemon and the firewall could just use the IPTABLES. What is the best. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Bastille is a very good firewall for starters, it is in the 8.1 installation and can be accessed for setup by going to a console and su and then type in cd /sbin and then at the prompt type in interactiveBastille it will start a gui install and when it gets to something about file limits choose no, otherwise you will not be able to su from a user desktop console. HTH -- Dennis M. registered Linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH
AC97 sound doesn't work very well with LM8.0 . That's why I had to buy soundcards for my machines with this piece-of-crap motherboard. Sevatio Original Message On 10/23/01, 9:22:06 AM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH: You have no problems with the AC 97 sound? shadowbuilder wrote: I haven't come across this bug before, was it just in the early revisions or has it been sorted? I use my PC to dual-boot with Win98se (for the games)and Mandrake8.1 and i haven't experienced any problem with the time at all within either OS. I am glad to hear that Linux tries to work round it though :) Wayne -Original Message- snip Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Compaq Presario 1700t (modem)
Dear All, I wrote about this a couple of days ago but did not get any responses. To my dismay I discovered that I have a Compaq 56 K V90 HCF miniPCI internal modem 14F1:1815 Conexant chip. I, also, have a Compaq 10_100MiniPCI ethernet NIC card that also has the conexant chip. When I ordered this laptop I asked specifically to give me a real modem and ethernet and not a winmodem but I do not think they knew what I was talking about. I have done alot of research and downloaded the software that might make this modem work according to the linmodem page. I use Juno for my internet provider on my laptop with WIN98. My laptop is a win98/LM8 dualboot. I have not installed the new software yet. I am wondering if my modem will work if I get Kppp setup correctly. I tried to setup kppp last night and I got a message that the modem is busy which surprised me. In console I typed ls -a /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/ and I see among other files build@ flashing and highlighted in red. What would this mean? I found my Juno files which have my username and password. If I put those into kppp would that make a difference also? Using a dial-up modem is new to me since I only have used ethernet cable on my desktop PC with Linux. That seems to be easier to setup from what I can tell. I have heard about using minicom to see if one's modem is working, too. How would I check on this modem to see that it is working? Thanks for any help and suggestions. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mac vs Intel architecture deliberations
WindowsME is a joke if I want to say do some video capture or producing. If all I do is download email, surf the net, work on documents,play with some photos with Adobe, or do my finances I never seea crash or get a blue screen of death. Although, theMac does come with Quicken, personally never liked it, it does annoy me with the single button mouse. Mostpeoplewho tell me they get crashes usually are not opening email or touching up photos. Linux does crash but handles very well without taking whole system with it. Mac is the same way too. I have hardly seen Mac crash but as far as multitasking goes I get the impression it is slower than Linux and Windows. Thats my impression so far since I had the Macfor ashort time and have been using Linux for less than a year. With Windows2000 you get better stability compared to WindowsMEbut you pay a premium while with Linux it just comes standard and personally it should whether I download it for free or purchase a package box. Mac no matter what they put in is a premium price product.
Re: [newbie] Mac vs Intel architecture deliberations
on 10/23/01 3:02 PM, Robert Pena at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have hardly seen Mac crash but as far as multitasking goes I get the impression it is slower than Linux and Windows. What MacOS are you talking about, pre 10 or 10+? As a big time Mac fan I can assure you Macs using 9 and earlier crash. They crash often, and they crash hard :) They're less stable than Windows9x, which is pretty sad. Also pre 10, Macs didn't have preemptive multitasking. Multitasking was up to the software, not the OS. If a program doesn't give up his share of the processor, everyone else is SOL. This is not the case for 10+. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Suggestions on FTP and Firewall software on LM81
In reply to Great Dragon's words, written Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:02:14 -0500 In mcc go to system and then to services. Check if proftpd is checked to run on boot... Paul Thats what I thought. Now I just have to find out how to get inetd to work with proftp. If I run inetd and try to connect, it replys connection rejected if I run /usr/sbin/in.proftpd manually it works fine, of corse, its permanently loaded From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Suggestions on FTP and Firewall software on LM81 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 20:50:33 -0400 In reply to Great Dragon's words, written Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:31:15 -0500 I was wondering what would be the best freeware FTP and firewall setup. Would I need a program or any executable or would it be better to just modify things directly? I know FTP needs a daemon and the firewall could just use the IPTABLES. What is the best. ProFTP is installed by default and is great. IPTables is used by def. in 2.4.x kernels, Ipchains in lower kernels. Both are good. At least they have never let me down :) Paul -- A mistake is evidence that someone tried to do something. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- A mistake is evidence that someone tried to do something. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] windows on linux
BIGGA SNIP that's right. I am the only one around here with a viable excuse to be an ass, (being as I _AM_ an ass, and if you don't believe it, ask my kids.) PARTICK_u_lurly for no reason. (permission to see the doctor to remove toungue from cheek sir?) What's with the unnecessary attitude? Last I heard, being in a pedantic mood and wrapping your post with cute little tags is not a viable excuse to be an ass for no reason. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aRts not working
Is aRts set on using Control Center? What Mandrake is this? Sevatio Original Message On 10/22/01, 6:33:02 PM, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] aRts not working: ok, i've been toying around for a few days... I got MP3's to play on KDE with XMMS, but only if I tell it to use OSS not aRts. I need aRts working to hear any desktop sound effects and such. aRts keeps giving me cpu overload messages when I try and run the daemon. This is on a Dell GX110 with an Intel i810 chipset. before i got real choppy sound from both mp3 and KDE sounds, not I get no KDE sounds, broken aRts, but MP3s are cool if I force it to use OSS. any ideas? Thanks, Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] learn C++ for Linux-Mandrake
on 10/12/01 7:45 AM, Marco Paul Mancheno Herrera at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody can say me, where do I find a free book or tutorial about C++ for Linux?? Marco, You find Thinking in C++ , written by Bruce Eckel at http://www.mindview.net/Books Lars Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] apostrophe in Mozilla
While viewing web pages in Mozilla 0.9.4, I notice that all of the apostrophes get replaced with a y with two dots over the top. Do any of you guys know how I get rid of this? Not a big deal, but kind of annoying. TIA, Fred Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xwidnows or KDE problem
You could try setting your bios to normal as opposed to optimum. If it's a hardware problem, this might help by putting less strain on it. On Tuesday 23 October 2001 5:06 pm, you wrote: I am all sorts of problems with either the xserver or KDE, not sure which. At times it just decides to freeze and I mean full blown windows freeze. I have to power down to get out of it. Then sometimes if I open konqueror file browser the scroll bar just goes crazy and no files show up, have to use xkill to get rid of it. Then atlaest half of the time when I try to shutdown my PC, I click logout and the screen just goes black and does nothing. Any one having this same problem? Anyone have a clue why it is happening? I am about ready to just reinstall, though I know it happened with my last PC a few times too. Confused Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
I personally believe that Microsoft Internet Explorer is the best web browser out there. For any platform. Period. Perhaps if you like the following: 1. The browser is automatically installed and starts up at every boot whether you want it or not (which explains why it seems to load so quickly). 2. When it crashes (which is quite often), the whole OS crashes. My IE 5.5 crashes sometimes, on Win2K - does not take the whole OS with it. Can't recall the last time the whole OS BSODed. Win2K is a very stable OS (for me). 3. It's closed-source, so you have no idea what's going on underneath. For example, the 'snapshot' facility used in the XP products will send whatever is in your memory to Microsoft, even if it is private. Well, sorta. It's not the WHOLE memory (can you imagine the time to do a 512M RAM upload to MS? :-), but the crashing application's share of it. While may or may not include private information. And you can turn off the snapshot feature; in fact, MS recommends turning it off (even before the latest news) 6. You like an inherently insecure application - one which has many well-known exploits which can easily compromise your data and privacy. True, altho there are things you can do to lessen the risks - same as there are things you can do to lessen the risks on Linux. 5. You don't want to ever use Java. In a move against Sun, Java support has been discontinued in IE6. No, I think they haven't disabled SUPPORT for it - I think they're not SHIPPING with it, meaning you have to go get your own JRE (like Linux users have to). If you have your own JRE, Java applets are supposed to still work. (I think - I don't use IE 6) 6. You don't want to ever use plug-ins. In a move against Netscape and other non-IE based browsers, plug-in support has been discontinued in IE6. Yeah, that sux. Altho QuickTime, for one, has gotten around that. 7. You like to use applications designed by a company that doesn't care about the above-mentioned problems, and even denies they exist. Would YOU trust such a company? Not a whole hell of a lot, no. before they started bundling it with Win98. MSIE 3.x would tear anything else apart. And when AOL bought out Netscape, the Well, I'd dispute THAT. But IE started becomeing usable (and ahead of Netscape) around v4, I think. When I used to use Windows, I had a utility called 98lite (http://www.98lite.net). It had the capability of 'exorcising' Windows of IE and other bundled apps. The resulting speed and stability boost was amazing. It still exists. In fact, they've (supposedly) improved on it. It depends on what you mean by 'Netscape'. Netscape 4 is old and is only maintained by Netscape for bugfixes. It is useful to keep around for compatibility reasons, since most sites out there aren't HTML standards-compliant. Today, I only use it to do my Internet banking. I've come across many sites, where Mozilla/Galeon/Opera/Konq did not work, or displayed the page incorrectly - and Netscape v4 did. So it still has it's uses. Mozilla itself, which is largely developed by Netscape, is shaping up to be a fine browser, but it still has some issues to work out. Nevertheless, it is very Still very slow, especially on Windows. And quite memory intensive, on all platforms. usable at present. Galeon, my favourite browser, relies on Mozilla's Gecko rendering engine to display web pages. Gecko is the fastest and best renderer I've ever seen, easily faster than Opera and KDE's KHTML (although those are still very quick). I like Galeon. Opera is pretty cool, too. Wish Galeon had a Windows equivalent. At this stage, I can't image MS ever writing or porting an app for GNU/Linux. The GNU/Linux community as a whole would not accept such applications unless they can be proven to be safe, reliable and standards-compliant. Since MS prefers to be closed (or 'shared') source, this cannot be verified. I'll buy that. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Circular dependancies?
Hello all, I've been trying to install Galeon onto my LM8.0 machine where the only x environment I have is KDE. I'm downloading the RPM's from the Mandrake site (which means that they're the 8.1 RPM's) because my CD-ROM drive has died and I no longer have access to the original disks. Here begins my problem: When I try to install the Galeon rpm, I get: [root@pengo packages]# rpm -i galeon-0.12.1-2mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: GConf = 1.0.4 is needed by galeon-0.12.1-2mdk mozilla = 0.9.4 is needed by galeon-0.12.1-2mdk So I went and downloaded the GConf 1.0.4 rpm and attempt to install that: [root@pengo packages]# rpm -i GConf-1.0.4-2mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: libGConf1 = 1.0.4 is needed by GConf-1.0.4-2mdk libdb-3.2.so is needed by GConf-1.0.4-2mdk So I download the libGConf 1.0.4 rpm and when I install it, I get: [root@pengo packages]# rpm -i libGConf1-1.0.4-2mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: GConf = 1.0.4 is needed by libGConf1-1.0.4-2mdk Is this my fault for trying to install from the 8.1 RPM's or should I be able to do this? -- David Johnson RLU#236992 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Gnome apps mouse focus
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 03:41, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: | On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:27:59 +, shipahoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:57:19 +0200 | | H McM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |Remove a package called imwheel. | | That worked. Thanks. | | It makes you wonder why imwheel is there in the first place. | | I've been wondering this for a _long_ time. GTK+ (including GNOME) and | QT (including KDE2) apps have full wheel-mouse support. Other apps like | Netscape and Nedit can be quite easily modified to have a similar | functionality. Imwheel messes-up the native wheel support in these apps, | but on the plus-side it allows just about any app to scroll with the | wheel. Since most the X apps you'll ever use would have native support, | I can't see why Mandrake loads this by default. I've read several threads on this subject in the past and have not said anything, BUT, (and this applies to both LM8.0 8.1) without imwheel my M$ Cordless Wheel Mouse will not scroll at all. Not only that, with LM8.0 my mouse just wouldn't work without imwheel - upon moving the mouse it would fly to the top of the screen and flicker erratically. imwheel fixed that. With LM8.1 my mouse worked out of the box, but not the scroll wheel - couldn't scroll in any app whatsoever. imwheel fixed that. I have not had ANY problems with imwheel - my scroll wheel works in all apps, including Gnome apps. And I use KDE. I'd be totally lost without imwheel. Go figure... :-) Just my $0.02. skinky -- But what ... is it good for? (Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the microchip) _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Circular dependancies?
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On Tuesday 23 October 2001 16:53, David Johnson
spouted off about [newbie] Circular dependancies?:
Here begins my problem:
When I try to install the Galeon rpm, I get:
[root@pengo packages]# rpm -i galeon-0.12.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
GConf = 1.0.4 is needed by galeon-0.12.1-2mdk
mozilla = 0.9.4 is needed by galeon-0.12.1-2mdk
So I went and downloaded the GConf 1.0.4 rpm and attempt to install
that:
[root@pengo packages]# rpm -i GConf-1.0.4-2mdk.i586.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
libGConf1 = 1.0.4 is needed by GConf-1.0.4-2mdk
libdb-3.2.so is needed by GConf-1.0.4-2mdk
So I download the libGConf 1.0.4 rpm and when I install it, I get:
[root@pengo packages]# rpm -i libGConf1-1.0.4-2mdk.i586.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
GConf = 1.0.4 is needed by libGConf1-1.0.4-2mdk
Is this my fault for trying to install from the 8.1 RPM's or should I be
able to do this?
Sometimes you need to assume that you are more intelligent than RPM ;-)
In this case, you can use the --nodeps option to tell RPM to ignore
dependencies. I don't recommend using it when it's not absolutely
necessary, but in this case I think it is.
Use the --nodeps option to install libGConf first (and also install
libdb-3.2, preferably without using the nodeps option unless necessary).
Something like this:
#rpm -U --nodeps libGConf1-1.0.4-2mdk.i586.rpm
Notice also, that I used option -U rather than -i. This way, you ensure
that if such a package already exists on your system (unlikely, but
possible), you will Upgrade it properly. And if no package exists, then
RPM is smart enough to treat the 'U' as an 'i'. I also like to add options
'vh' ('-Uvh') as well, so I get verbose messages from RPM, and I see hash
marks (a text-based progress bar) during the upgrade/install.
- From there, GConf should be able to install without the nodeps option, and
so on.
Dave
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RE: [newbie] Circular dependencies?
Dave,
Thanks for the tip. There's now a TON of dependencies on mozilla that I
don't yet have installed, but your trick DID work.
I am thinking I may just attempt to make a network boot disk and use that to
do an upgrade to 8.1, to help avoid some of this frustration...
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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Circular dependancies?
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On Tuesday 23 October 2001 16:53, David Johnson
spouted off about [newbie] Circular dependancies?:
Here begins my problem:
When I try to install the Galeon rpm, I get:
[root@pengo packages]# rpm -i galeon-0.12.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
GConf = 1.0.4 is needed by galeon-0.12.1-2mdk
mozilla = 0.9.4 is needed by galeon-0.12.1-2mdk
So I went and downloaded the GConf 1.0.4 rpm and attempt to install
that:
[root@pengo packages]# rpm -i GConf-1.0.4-2mdk.i586.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
libGConf1 = 1.0.4 is needed by GConf-1.0.4-2mdk
libdb-3.2.so is needed by GConf-1.0.4-2mdk
So I download the libGConf 1.0.4 rpm and when I install it, I get:
[root@pengo packages]# rpm -i libGConf1-1.0.4-2mdk.i586.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
GConf = 1.0.4 is needed by libGConf1-1.0.4-2mdk
Is this my fault for trying to install from the 8.1 RPM's or should I be
able to do this?
Sometimes you need to assume that you are more intelligent than RPM ;-)
In this case, you can use the --nodeps option to tell RPM to ignore
dependencies. I don't recommend using it when it's not absolutely
necessary, but in this case I think it is.
Use the --nodeps option to install libGConf first (and also install
libdb-3.2, preferably without using the nodeps option unless necessary).
Something like this:
#rpm -U --nodeps libGConf1-1.0.4-2mdk.i586.rpm
Notice also, that I used option -U rather than -i. This way, you ensure
that if such a package already exists on your system (unlikely, but
possible), you will Upgrade it properly. And if no package exists, then
RPM is smart enough to treat the 'U' as an 'i'. I also like to add options
'vh' ('-Uvh') as well, so I get verbose messages from RPM, and I see hash
marks (a text-based progress bar) during the upgrade/install.
- From there, GConf should be able to install without the nodeps option, and
so on.
Dave
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Re: [newbie] Mac vs Intel architecture deliberations
Do you find that winME is less stable than say winNT or 2000? I do, Win2k runs like a dream, WinME has added clunkyness Rick Kitty5 WebDesign - http://Kitty5.com POV-Ray News Resources - http://Povray.co.uk TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - FAX : +44 (01270) 251105 - ICQ : 15776037 PGP Public Key http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x231E1CEA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apostrophe in Mozilla
On Tuesday 23 October 2001 21:44, you wrote: While viewing web pages in Mozilla 0.9.4, I notice that all of the apostrophes get replaced with a y with two dots over the top. Do any of you guys know how I get rid of this? Not a big deal, but kind of annoying. TIA, Fred Sounds like the web pages you are viewing have been created with M$ s/ware. For some reason (actually I think it's to do with 'smart-(read dumb)-quotes' that they produce) M$ decided they wouldn't emit true apostrophes, but instead replace them with different characters that are not part of the 7-bit ASCII set. MSIE can interpret them correctly, but in all other browsers they get displayed as either the 8-bit ASCII character that the value actually represents, as a question mark (which is how Netscrape does it in version 4, IIRC), or get ignored completely (which is what Opera seems to do for me). A good explanation of this stuff can be found at John Walker's Demoroniser page (http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/demoroniser/), where he also gives a Perl program that corrects these problems (and a whole raft of others that M$ apps introduce in their generated HTML). Unfortunately, the Demoroniser is really designed to be run on web-pages that you design before publishing them - I've no idea if it would be possible to pipe incoming pages through it before they get served up to your browser, although I imagine you could do it through a proxy, maybe? HTH S -- Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines Remove the fruit to obtain reply address: spencer at lasermount banana dot uklinux dot net 12:05am up 1 day, 10:07, 3 users, load average: 0.01, 0.00, 0.00 Registered Linux User #232457 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH
Yeap, that's the bug, but it's not Linux's fault at all! It also happens with my Winblows machines. Linux at least TRIES to do something about it. Windows doesn't. Reading the timer.h and timer.c comments in the kernel code is most informative. It not only describes the nature of the problem but tells you how Winbond and ALiMagic VIA don't seem to be interested in fixing this. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sevatio |Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:20 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH | | |I have two machines with the GA-7ZX-1 mobo. LM8.0 made the |system clock |very inaccurate. LM8.1 made that same system clock even |worse. I'm very |disappointed with this problem. Although adjtimex can be used to help |this, it still results in timekeeping that is less accurate than my |childhood windup clock. | |Sevatio | | Original Message | |On 10/23/01, 4:33:09 AM, Robert MacLean [EMAIL PROTECTED] |wrote regarding |[newbie] gigabyte GA-7ZXH: | | | Does any here use the GA-7ZXH motherboard with M8 or M8.1? | I want to buy it but I just want to see if it will work first. I | checked mandrakes hardware list and they had the GA-7ZXR (raid | version), so I think it will, but I just want to check |first. It uses | the VIA KT133A chipset. thanx | | ___ | Robert MacLean | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Where did Shred go?
Where did shred go in KDE 2.2.1? Did they take this feature out or do I need to enable it somehow? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File/Printer Sharing with Windows
Hi Dave, Wow, thanks for the detailed help! I'm going to try getting it set up tonight. Sorry for the lateness of the thanks, BTW, I wasn't at home last night and didn't get my email. Ron *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 10/22/2001 at 8:39 AM Dave Sherman wrote: Ron, Samba can do everything you need. It can act as a full-blown Primary Domain Controller, if you want (emulating an NT server). snip *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Interesting stuff about XP
Hi Guys and Gals,, Did you people know that XP home will only network with 5 PC's peer to peer, ?? it doesn't support domain networking at all and has a maximium of 5 PC's it can network with... I just saw this in an M$ email (directly from M$)... == Important Notice: No Domain support in Windows XP Home edition Windows XP Home edition is designed exclusively for home use. As such it enables peer-to-peer networking for a maximum of 5 PCs, but DOES NOT support centralized, domain-based networking. Windows XP Professional is designed for businesses of all sizes and is required for a PC to connect to a domain. In addition, the Professional edition provides a number of important features for business in areas of mobile computing and business-class security. To ensure customer satisfaction, only propose Windows XP Professional for small business, government, schools and corporate customers. For more information on important differences between the Home and Professional === Thought you guys might find that interesting if you are setting up a samba network at home and want to use a domain name setup... with XP Home, you can't. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Cox Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2001 12:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] How do I release my IP number? On Tuesday, Oct 23, 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This question is directed to Paul Cox, and is completely unrelated to the original topic. I am sending thought the mailing list since someone maybe wondering the same thing. My question is about the kernel and uptime on Paul's signature, I assume that is generated automatically (don't think anyone would go through the trouble to add and update it every time a message is sent 8) ). Is that done with a certain mail client or it can be done with any mail client? and how? TIA. I think you emailed me about this, but I accidently deleted your message. =) Anyway, it's a perl script that appends it to my .signature file, and then that's piped into my mail client's signature (I use Mutt). It's easier than it sounds. The original script (attached as uptime.bak.pl) I got from Vincent Danen. I then modified it (attached as uptime.pl) to make it display a little differently. It can also write out the completed sig to a file, but that's currently commented out, so you'll have to uncomment it. Then you can just run it in a cron job every 5 mintues or something. Oh, and my setting for Mutt (to be but in your muttrc): set signature='~/bin/uptime.pl ~/.signature|' If you have any other questions, just let me know. -- Paul Cox paul at coxcentral dot com Kernel: 2.4.8-26mdk - Uptime: 2 days 22 hours 42 minutes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] How can I determine if I'm root in a script
check also the value $USER
it should give root for root
or try this which is tricky
username=`who am i | awk '{print $1'}`
now $username holds the logged in user name
juts copy the line above as it is don't forget the ` this tills linux to
execute what is inside
-Original Message-
From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 11:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] How can I determine if I'm root in a script
In reply to Mark Johnson's words, written Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:18:02 -0500
Check the value of $UID. It should be 0 for root.
Paul
I'm trying to write a bash script to install some files but it must be run
as root. Is there a way that I can get my script to check to see if it has
root priviledges and if not exit out?
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Re: [newbie] How can I determine if I'm root in a script
Hi, you can check to see if you are root, i.e.: `whoami` == root if that returns true, you are good to go. (btw, those are backticks around whoami) HTH, David Charles On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Mark Johnson wrote: I'm trying to write a bash script to install some files but it must be run as root. Is there a way that I can get my script to check to see if it has root priviledges and if not exit out? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga SOLVED!
Dave and Paul, I'm not sure what fixed things. I reinstalled Mandrake last night because I have played around with so many files that I wasn't sure of the original state of the install. I made sure I had bind utilities installed, and carefully configured my rp-pppoe software, initially with NO firewall, since the instructions for adsl-setup said that if I selected a firewall setting AND I had any servers running, that no traffic would pass. Since I don't know how to tell if I have any servers running (do you?) I said NONE for the firewall setting. Now, everything works! DNS, mail, everything. I set up my login and my wife's login. Everything looks good. Now I can post the newbie group about something else! Thanks, -Paul Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] audio cds in 8.1
I did try your fix, but it didn't do it. Here's the output of symlinks cd* in the root dir and in /dev [root@localhost dev]# symlinks cd* /dev/cdrom: No such file or directory /dev/cdrom0: Not a directory [root@localhost /]# symlinks cd* dangling: /cdroms/cdrom0 - ../ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd -Paul Rodríguez On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 23:15, Joseph Braddock wrote: I had a typo in my message. It should have read ... if you go to /dev and look at the links... not /etc. Sorry for any confusion. Also, to see where the cdrom is linked, while root (or su), cd to the /dev directory and type symlinks cd* and it should show you where your cd rom(s) are linked to. If the one called cdrom is not linked to ../dev/cdroms then don't bother with my fix. Joe On Tuesday 23 October 2001 10:07 pm, you wrote: This isn't a good fix, but it will make your audio CDs work. I imagine if you go to /etc and look at the links for cdroms, you will see the one named cdrom flashing red (assuming you are at a shell and not using Konqueror). The problem is that it is looking for a link to ../cdroms/cdrom and the correct path should be /dev/cdroms/cdrom. I haven't been successfull in changing it yet (well and getting the change to stick), but I temporarily fixed it by making a directory off of / called cdroms and then copied the files from /dev/cdroms to it. You might try that and see if works for you. Joe On Tuesday 23 October 2001 09:55 pm, you wrote: Yeah, I'm running 8.1. I'm not quite sure how to check where my cd rom really is, but taking a look at HardDrake, my cdrom is listed as existing at /dev/hdc. And that seems to be what is listed in my fstab: /dev/hda6 / reiserfs noatime,notail 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda9 /home reiserfs noatime,notail 1 2 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /usr reiserfs noatime,notail 1 2 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 It's strange, because it has no trouble reading data cds. But audio cds it can't even read. Thanks again. -Paul Rodríguez On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 06:46, Paul wrote: In reply to Paul Rodríguez's words, written 22 Oct 2001 20:53:14 -0400 Hmm... ls -l /dev/cdrom give me this: [root@localhost root]# ls -l /dev/cdrom lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 16 Oct 22 05:13 /dev/cdrom - ./cdroms/cdrom0 How do I go about changing this, and to what? I have seen this from other people who use 8.1 Are you on that? Check where your fstab points to in respect to the cdrom. And where your cdrom really is. /dev/hd? something. Then the /dev/cdrom link needs to be updated, I guess, to that /dev/hd? Paul -- A mistake is evidence that someone tried to do something. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. =_1003812773-1734-2281 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com =_1003893187-1734-2593 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrecord and my ricoh burner
At 15:51 23.10.2001 -0700, you wrote: On Tuesday 23 October 2001 02:42 pm, you wrote: hi ppl i have lm 8.1 and cdrecord version 1.10 i just tried to burn an audio cd (mp3 files converted to wav) with eroaster and upon clicking the burn button i got this : scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.20 Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 0 = CD-DA Using libscg version 'schily-0.5' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'RICOH ' Identifikation : 'CD-R/RW MP7080A ' Revision : '1.30' Have you tried any of the other ones? I used gnome-toaster last night to burn a couple of iso's and they burnt well...'just like mom's' ;-) hi michael i tried x cd-roast - but since it uses cdrecord as well it didnt work. after that i tried to burn my wav files via command line - not setting the -dao option and thus burning in TAO mode. this worked - but i would have liked to burn DAO over a nice gui does gnome-toaster use another program than cdrecord ? --quay -- -michael- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
