Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
... Thanks for the links above, I have gotten to the point now where the NVidia installer reports that it has installed a driver for my kernel, but that the driver conflicts with a module called rivafb. Can anyone tell me how to disable the rivafb module in my kernel? Thanks in advance, I think (I know I did) you can ingnore that rivafb warning. Don't forget to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the modprobe.preload as per the instructions on his url. Yeah, the nvidia installer doesn't check whether you have rivafb loaded, it just checks if the kernel has that module compiled. Since Mdk kernels do, it always gives that warning. When I got the warning, I checked that I wasn't using that module. Check in /etc/modprobe.conf and modprobe.preload for a 2.6 kernel, or modules.conf for a 2.4 kernel), but there was no reference to it. You can also do an lsmod|grep rivafb to check that it's not currently loaded. But you don't need to bother unless you have problems running the driver, in which case this is one of the things to check. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 09:43 -0700, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: Thanks! My ritzy NVidia FX 5300 PCI Express appears to be working flawlessly. But for some reason when I run harddrake and select the video I get this: Identification Vendor: (null) Description: Media class: DISPLAY_VGA Connection Bus: PCI Bus PCI #: 1 PCI device #: 0 PCI function #: 0 Vendor ID: 4318 Device ID: 252 Sub vendor ID: 5218 Sub device ID: 38529 Misc But when I run the configuration tool the Nvidia GForce FX Generic driver is listed - which is option I selected. Is this something I should be concerned about? When I got the warning, I checked that I wasn't using that module. Check in /etc/modprobe.conf and modprobe.preload for a 2.6 kernel, or modules.conf for a 2.4 kernel), but there was no reference to it. You can also do an lsmod|grep rivafb to check that it's not currently loaded. But you don't need to bother unless you have problems running the driver, in which case this is one of the things to check. Plain text document attachment (message.footer) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com -- Kenneth Rhodes 100% MicroSoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] RE: nVidia
Hi all, I'm fixing to rebuild the puter and have heard horror stories about nvidia. I have been using the download version of Mandrake 10.1, the powerpack. Some one said that the download version for club members doesn't have the nvidia drivers only the pay for pack does. Can anyone verify this, I don't want to get a mother board with nvidia if it isn't addressed by the OS. TIA, Maureen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 08:53, Maureen wrote: Hi all, I'm fixing to rebuild the puter and have heard horror stories about nvidia. I have been using the download version of Mandrake 10.1, the powerpack. Some one said that the download version for club members doesn't have the nvidia drivers only the pay for pack does. Can anyone verify this, I don't want to get a mother board with nvidia if it isn't addressed by the OS. TIA, Hi, Maureen. I'm using the nvidia video driver from the club powerpack download, but you have to be a silver member to get that. The smaller download pack doesn't have it. OTOH, if you don't need 3D acceleration (mainly for games) then the nv driver will be fine. If you mean a motherboard with an nvidia chipset, though, problems have been reported. You may find http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MotherBoards helpful. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4kY3kFAvMr/nNX8RAg3WAJ9lWL93l3XWBtYzsobDpGUrIQIopACbBBxV qyoE/fV7goaoMuIJRsbSy1k= =8STx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
You can download a very nice nvidia installer for Linux on the nvidia website. ed On Monday, 10 January 2005 10:53, Maureen wrote: Hi all, I'm fixing to rebuild the puter and have heard horror stories about nvidia. I have been using the download version of Mandrake 10.1, the powerpack. Some one said that the download version for club members doesn't have the nvidia drivers only the pay for pack does. Can anyone verify this, I don't want to get a mother board with nvidia if it isn't addressed by the OS. TIA, Maureen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
I have recently had a lot of trouble with an nvidia card - I think the problem has been with the card, not the linux drivers. However one think I have observed is the dissatisfaction with nvidia on their linux site. I have noticed the same with matrox (the other card manufacturer I have dealt with) but the ATI site seems to be quite positive. I don know if anyone else has any first hand experiance with the card manufacturers, but from my observation of their web sites, I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card my 2 cents worth... Hugh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 11:10, Hugh Dixon wrote: I have recently had a lot of trouble with an nvidia card - I think the problem has been with the card, not the linux drivers. However one think I have observed is the dissatisfaction with nvidia on their linux site. I have noticed the same with matrox (the other card manufacturer I have dealt with) but the ATI site seems to be quite positive. I don know if anyone else has any first hand experiance with the card manufacturers, but from my observation of their web sites, I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card I don't know about the latest cards from Matrox, but I have a dual-head G400 on this box (I only use 1 head, and the nvidia card is on another box). I have had not the slightest problem and I have used it with every version since 8.1. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4mP/kFAvMr/nNX8RAm/dAJ40AE0GRWL+fsrg1lo8Ie0AhA7NNACaA3Gw Kp9ySsiB08yZFiaeVB/vRaw= =ZheE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 11:10, Hugh Dixon wrote: I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card I forgot to say that my third Mandrake box has an ATi card - and I doubt if I will ever buy another. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4mQxkFAvMr/nNX8RAmytAJ4oXclcNAoXoVzvuT2TQslHnvux0gCeKlUL i5icf+b8Fsbrx6zsvk9aV6o= =p0nC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Monday 10 January 2005 04:16 am, Anne Wilson wrote: I don't know about the latest cards from Matrox, but I have a dual-head G400 on this box (I only use 1 head, and the nvidia card is on another box). I have had not the slightest problem and I have used it with every version since 8.1. Anne ... and I've been using the G450 w/o the slightest hiccup since about the same time. Glenn -- 05:23:36 up 1 day, 16:13, running Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586, kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk Registered Linux user #324360 This product is meant for educational purposes only. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead is purely coincidental. Void where prohibited. Some assembly may be required. Batteries not included. Contents may settle during shipment. Use only as directed. May be too intense for some viewers. If condition persists, consult your physician. No user-serviceable parts inside. Breaking seal constitutes acceptance of agreement. Not responsible for direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages resulting from any defect, error or failure to perform. Slippery when wet. For office use only. Substantial penalty for early withdrawal. Do not write below this line. Your cancelled check is your receipt. Avoid contact with skin. Employees and their families are not eligible. Beware of dog. Driver does not carry cash. Limited time offer, call now to insure prompt delivery. Use only in well-ventilated area. Keep away from fire or flame. Some equipment shown is optional. Price does not include taxes, dealer prep, or delivery. Penalty for private use. Call toll free before digging. Some of the trademarks mentioned in this product appear for identification purposes only. All models over 18 years of age. Do not use while operating a motor vehicle or heavy equipment. Postage will be paid by addressee. Apply only to affected area. One size fits all. Many suitcases look alike. Edited for television. No solicitors. Reproduction strictly prohibited. Restaurant package, not for resale. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. Decision of judges is final. This supersedes all previous notices. No other warranty expressed or implied. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
I have a dual head G450 and it is excellent, but, from the web sites it appears that matrox development for linux has stagnated (the linux drivers are beta, and have been that way for over a year..) My problems with nvidia - I hope are mostly hardware, rather than driver related. My observations are based on what I have read from the manufacturers support sites. It may just be that ATI cull anything less than complimentry from their site, while the other manufacturers allow any ratbag to express their view :) Ann, What are the problems with your ATI carded machine? Hugh -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 10-Jan-05 22:16 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Cc: Subject:Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 11:10, Hugh Dixon wrote: I have recently had a lot of trouble with an nvidia card - I think the problem has been with the card, not the linux drivers. However one think I have observed is the dissatisfaction with nvidia on their linux site. I have noticed the same with matrox (the other card manufacturer I have dealt with) but the ATI site seems to be quite positive. I don know if anyone else has any first hand experiance with the card manufacturers, but from my observation of their web sites, I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card I don't know about the latest cards from Matrox, but I have a dual-head G400 on this box (I only use 1 head, and the nvidia card is on another box). I have had not the slightest problem and I have used it with every version since 8.1. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4mP/kFAvMr/nNX8RAm/dAJ40AE0GRWL+fsrg1lo8Ie0AhA7NNACaA3Gw Kp9ySsiB08yZFiaeVB/vRaw= =ZheE -END PGP SIGNATURE- winmail.dat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 12:50, Hugh Dixon wrote: I have a dual head G450 and it is excellent, but, from the web sites it appears that matrox development for linux has stagnated (the linux drivers are beta, and have been that way for over a year..) My problems with nvidia - I hope are mostly hardware, rather than driver related. It seems to me that the problems with nvidia cards are rather like the problems with Creative sound cards - models that appear to be the same, aren't, so that they are not as predictable as we would like. I don't play games, so at a pinch I can do without 3D acceleration, though it is a great help for video processing. My observations are based on what I have read from the manufacturers support sites. It may just be that ATI cull anything less than complimentry from their site, while the other manufacturers allow any ratbag to express their view :) Ann, What are the problems with your ATI carded machine? I'm possibly being unfair, but Mandrake wouldn't load at all with the card in one computer. I changed it to another box, got Mandrake loaded, but when I went to check the graphics configuration it crashed and trashed things so badly that re-installation was the best option. It is running 10.1 now, but without proprietary drivers. I can do without acceleration on that box. Of course, many problems stem from hardware incompatibilities within the system, so maybe it's not the fault of the card, but my experiences were far from happy. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4n3gkFAvMr/nNX8RAms5AJ9GWUF1zuSPy90eePdfHLWVqnP8IgCeLZev kFp05JOmXTnKAAGgsPWo1dA= =q6ed -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
Your problems with ATI sound like mine with nvidia. My interest is in the CAD area, and I like decent 3D acceleration - which it seems to me, to something that the card manufacurers are not willing to provide to their linux users Combined with my ignorance of linux this leads to frustration on my part :( Oh well Hugh -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 11-Jan-05 00:06 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Cc: Subject:Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 12:50, Hugh Dixon wrote: I have a dual head G450 and it is excellent, but, from the web sites it appears that matrox development for linux has stagnated (the linux drivers are beta, and have been that way for over a year..) My problems with nvidia - I hope are mostly hardware, rather than driver related. It seems to me that the problems with nvidia cards are rather like the problems with Creative sound cards - models that appear to be the same, aren't, so that they are not as predictable as we would like. I don't play games, so at a pinch I can do without 3D acceleration, though it is a great help for video processing. My observations are based on what I have read from the manufacturers support sites. It may just be that ATI cull anything less than complimentry from their site, while the other manufacturers allow any ratbag to express their view :) Ann, What are the problems with your ATI carded machine? I'm possibly being unfair, but Mandrake wouldn't load at all with the card in one computer. I changed it to another box, got Mandrake loaded, but when I went to check the graphics configuration it crashed and trashed things so badly that re-installation was the best option. It is running 10.1 now, but without proprietary drivers. I can do without acceleration on that box. Of course, many problems stem from hardware incompatibilities within the system, so maybe it's not the fault of the card, but my experiences were far from happy. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4n3gkFAvMr/nNX8RAms5AJ9GWUF1zuSPy90eePdfHLWVqnP8IgCeLZev kFp05JOmXTnKAAGgsPWo1dA= =q6ed -END PGP SIGNATURE- winmail.dat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
- Original Message - From: Hugh Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 5:10 AM Subject: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia I have recently had a lot of trouble with an nvidia card - I think the problem has been with the card, not the linux drivers. However one think I have observed is the dissatisfaction with nvidia on their linux site. I have noticed the same with matrox (the other card manufacturer I have dealt with) but the ATI site seems to be quite positive. I don know if anyone else has any first hand experiance with the card manufacturers, but from my observation of their web sites, I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card my 2 cents worth... Hugh I am experimenting with linux an a machine with an ATI Radeon 9000. I have had no problems with it using Mandrake 10.1, Suse 9.2, or FC 3. Whatever that is worth from a newbie! ~Lorin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Monday 10 January 2005 08:41 am, Lorin Jenny Pino wrote: - Original Message - From: Hugh Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 5:10 AM Subject: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia I have recently had a lot of trouble with an nvidia card - I think the problem has been with the card, not the linux drivers. However one think I have observed is the dissatisfaction with nvidia on their linux site. I have noticed the same with matrox (the other card manufacturer I have dealt with) but the ATI site seems to be quite positive. I don know if anyone else has any first hand experiance with the card manufacturers, but from my observation of their web sites, I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card my 2 cents worth... Hugh I am experimenting with linux an a machine with an ATI Radeon 9000. I have had no problems with it using Mandrake 10.1, Suse 9.2, or FC 3. Whatever that is worth from a newbie! ~Lorin Could any notebook users post their experiences with 3D accelleration also? Jarlath Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Monday 10 January 2005 05:17 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 10 Jan 2005 11:10, Hugh Dixon wrote: I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card I forgot to say that my third Mandrake box has an ATi card - and I doubt if I will ever buy another. Argh, don't say that. My NVIDIA card is crapping out and I just went and picked up an ATi Radeon 9550SE; does anyone know of any verified problems/quirks with getting this to work under Mandrake 10.x? I haven't installed it yet so I could return it if necessary... http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=181931 Anne David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Monday 10 Jan 2005 10:29, Edward Holcroft wrote: You can download a very nice nvidia installer for Linux on the nvidia website. and it also helps if you follow the instructions put up by a user on this forum. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/nvidia.html The instructions certainly helped me! Excellent . -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Mandrake 10.1 Microsoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 00:43, David Reynolds wrote: On Monday 10 January 2005 05:17 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 10 Jan 2005 11:10, Hugh Dixon wrote: I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card I forgot to say that my third Mandrake box has an ATi card - and I doubt if I will ever buy another. Argh, don't say that. My NVIDIA card is crapping out and I just went and picked up an ATi Radeon 9550SE; does anyone know of any verified problems/quirks with getting this to work under Mandrake 10.x? I haven't installed it yet so I could return it if necessary... NVidia has the best drivers for any video card under GNU/linux currently; most problems with NVidia cards either comes from overheating or the chipset goes south; if your graphics card has a fan unit on it, check that the fan is actually working and dust-free; GPU cooling fans can be purchsed elsewhere as well - made by 3d party companies - such as Thermaltake. I would not use an ATI under GNU/linux as the driver support is not there, nor are the other abilities of the graphics cards. The ATI drivers are problematic at best and do not deliver the full capabilities of the ATI graphics card. They literally ARE made for MS Windows or OS/X only. Experience is the best teacher. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits? -- Economics explained (Terry Pratchett, The Colour of Magic) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 07:21 +1100, Stephen Kühn wrote: NVidia has the best drivers for any video card under GNU/linux currently; most problems with NVidia cards either comes from overheating or the chipset goes south; if your graphics card has a fan unit on it, check that the fan is actually working and dust-free; GPU cooling fans can be purchsed elsewhere as well - made by 3d party companies - such as Thermaltake. I currently have an NVidia GeForce FX5300 PCI Express running which will only run under the VESA driver under MDK 10.1OE with kernel 2.6.8.1. I have a Pentium 4 3200E CPU and 512mb ram. I gather from the twicki and the NVidia driver page that I may need to install a Linux kernal with SMB support for this CPU, Video Card, and PCI-Express support. However, the kernals with SMP support that show up on my graphic urpmi install program are 2.4 kernels with descriptions that they are for systems with 1GB or more ram. Does anyone know if it will hurt my system to install one of these SMP enabled kernels? The NVidia driver docs indicate that I can compile the driver against kernel source code with SMP support. I'm lost. Any help would be appreciated. I suppose I should have started a new thread. Sorry, if this is poor list etiquette. I would not use an ATI under GNU/linux as the driver support is not there, nor are the other abilities of the graphics cards. The ATI drivers are problematic at best and do not deliver the full capabilities of the ATI graphics card. They literally ARE made for MS Windows or OS/X only. Experience is the best teacher. _ -- Kenneth Rhodes 100% MicroSoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 05:50, JR wrote: Could any notebook users post their experiences with 3D accelleration also? Jarlath I have a Dell Inspiron 8600 with an NVidia Geforce4 5650. When I got it, it was so new that it was unsupported by NVidia's Linux drivers and I had to use the generic XFree nv driver from cvs. Support was added after about 3 months, and since then has been rock solid. My old desktop also has an NVidia Geforce2 and that's been rock solid as well. Most importantly, 3d acceleration works fine. I have rarely had problems with using either the RPMS from Mdk, or the installer from NVidia. NVidia has, without a doubt, the best drivers out there for Linux, with the most complete support, they have major clients in Hollywood who demand quality drivers for their Linux render farms. ATI is miles behind, and only occasionally show the will required to catch up. The 2D drivers they contributed to X are very good, but their 3D drivers are seriously lacking. As for the NVidia forums, yes there's a LOT of light and noise going on in there, but I think that's just a reflection of the relative popularity of NVidia over ATI. I suspect a lot of the problems people grouse about over there are PEBKAC's resulting from not RTFM :-) That and the variety of NVidia hardware out there, not all card manufacturers are equal, some make great cards, others cut corners and they play up under Linux. Cheers! John. - Forget that new hard drive, save some lives instead, donate to the Red Cross: USA: https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp UK: https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm Oz: https://www.redcross.org.au/Donations/onlineTsunamiDonations.asp NZ: https://www.banqonit.com/proxypage.aspx?boiid=205 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 18:34 +, Ian wrote: On Monday 10 Jan 2005 10:29, Edward Holcroft wrote: You can download a very nice nvidia installer for Linux on the nvidia website. and it also helps if you follow the instructions put up by a user on this forum. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/nvidia.html The instructions certainly helped me! Excellent . Thanks for the links above, I have gotten to the point now where the NVidia installer reports that it has installed a driver for my kernel, but that the driver conflicts with a module called rivafb. Can anyone tell me how to disable the rivafb module in my kernel? Thanks in advance, -- Kenneth Rhodes 100% MicroSoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] RE: nVidia
Thanks for this post. I dont have my card at the moment, but will keep this for if (when) I get it back. A set of clear instructions are near essential for me, and I couldnt find/discover anything that worked for me from the nvidia site. (I now think the problem is hardware, so this is not a linux matter at all really. Under windows XP the machine kept rebooting, whereas under linux it runs fine under VESA.) Changing the subject a bit, does anyone know anything of xi drivers? (http://www.xig.com/) I know suggesting a proprietry option may cause some reaction, but I just wondering if they are used, and to get some user responses. Hugh -Original Message- From: Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 11-Jan-05 05:34 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Cc: Subject:Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia On Monday 10 Jan 2005 10:29, Edward Holcroft wrote: You can download a very nice nvidia installer for Linux on the nvidia website. and it also helps if you follow the instructions put up by a user on this forum. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/nvidia.html The instructions certainly helped me! Excellent . -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Mandrake 10.1 Microsoft Free winmail.dat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
Kenneth Rhodes wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 18:34 +, Ian wrote: On Monday 10 Jan 2005 10:29, Edward Holcroft wrote: You can download a very nice nvidia installer for Linux on the nvidia website. and it also helps if you follow the instructions put up by a user on this forum. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/nvidia.html The instructions certainly helped me! Excellent . Thanks for the links above, I have gotten to the point now where the NVidia installer reports that it has installed a driver for my kernel, but that the driver conflicts with a module called rivafb. Can anyone tell me how to disable the rivafb module in my kernel? Thanks in advance, I think (I know I did) you can ingnore that rivafb warning. Don't forget to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the modprobe.preload as per the instructions on his url. -- Regards Dave Ashmore MDK 10.1 Official Mozilla 1.7.3 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Monday 10 January 2005 02:53 am, Maureen wrote: Hi all, I'm fixing to rebuild the puter and have heard horror stories about nvidia. I have been using the download version of Mandrake 10.1, the powerpack. Some one said that the download version for club members doesn't have the nvidia drivers only the pay for pack does. Can anyone verify this, I don't want to get a mother board with nvidia if it isn't addressed by the OS. TIA, Maureen I can say that I have built some 8 Linux based machines in the past year - most of them running Mandrake Linux. I used NVidia cards in every one of them (nothing cutting edge, but I have an NVidia FX 5200 in this machine, running 8x AGP), and all of them work incredibly well. I've had enough success with NVidia that I know that I will stick with them, if that makes a difference... -- Take care, Randall Hobbs Programmer - System Administrator - Acquire Technology, LLC Web Hosting * Programming * Software http://www.acquire-technology.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: nVidia drivers killed my Xfree?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:56:00 -0500 Eric Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |Hey, me again :-P, | I recently downloaded nVidia drivers from the nVidia website, installed|them with their kernal driver thingamaboper, and restarted my Mandrake 9.1|system to try and get my newly-downloaded Boson 0.7 (Isn't it technically|0.07? Ah well, typo on the mirror) to run smooth... and now X-free gives an|error. | I don't necessarily want help getting nVidia's drivers to work right with|my X-free (Wichi is, I believe, 4.3.0), but I'm novice to Linux... how do I|delete the driver packages from my system after they've been installed? I|used urpmi to put them in, as they were both rpms, but howabout getting them|out? Is it just as simple? | Thanx, | ES Eric, sorry to be the list meanie, but please don't hijack threads like this, it makes searching the mailing list archives very frustrating. 8( Please read the Mailing List Etiquette which can be found at the community Twiki: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette Also you can check out.. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/urpmi for information about urpmi, should get ya started 8) HTH RickS +--+ MandrakeLinux 10.0 official - 2.6.3-13mdk-i686-up-4GB gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 +--+ The Poems, all three hundred of them, may be summed up in one of their phrases: Let our thoughts be correct. -- Confucius -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAyjuuJo/ckCSqvmERAoe+AJ0YEC5rHAvuH1OR3PZHL7x+y4uB5wCdGO7E w+ZvOcWX/bL2huN5iDyWVxU= =6Jvl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Modprobe nvidia
Hi Guys I have to enter 'modprobe nvidia' after each boot to access kde. I'm not sure why my pc stopped booting directly into a graphical mode, but modprobe nvidia works. This is not convenient though, and I remember reading somewhere on the list about someone else having a similar problem, but cannot no find the message. Could one of the guru's please advise me how to fix this, or alternatively what and where I need to add any commands. I think I've just confused the hell out of myself, but as always, thanks. Mark A Poole, Dorset United Kingdom. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modprobe nvidia
On Sun, 23 May 2004 16:46:38 +0100, Mark Annandale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys I have to enter 'modprobe nvidia' after each boot to access kde. I'm not sure why my pc stopped booting directly into a graphical mode, but modprobe nvidia works. This is not convenient though, and I remember reading somewhere on the list about someone else having a similar problem, but cannot no find the message. Could one of the guru's please advise me how to fix this, or alternatively what and where I need to add any commands. I think I've just confused the hell out of myself, but as always, thanks. Mark A Poole, Dorset United Kingdom. Yes this came up last week Add the line alias /dev/nvidia* nvidia to both your /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modprobe.conf files. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
NVIDIA_GLX and NVIDIA_kernel Re: XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Friday 19 Dec 2003 4:44 am, JoeHill wrote: Can you not have two sets of drivers installed, kernel *and* GLX, as long as they are installed into seperate kernels? Seems to me, as I indicated below, he should be able to install both kernel and GLX drivers and have 3D acceleration in both kernels... I have now been able to get my new kernel working, and X and 3D acceleration. I have noticed that NVIDIA_kernel, just like the kernel, are installed side by side but the NVIDIA_GLX are upgraded. So the answer is no: we cannot have 3D accelerations in both kernels with the nvidia drivers. Thanks to all who helped. Augustin -- Quote of the day: I think, therefore I am. - Descartes I compute, therefore I crash. - Gates Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: NVIDIA_GLX and NVIDIA_kernel Re: XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
If your trying to have the NVIDIA drivers work in both 2.4 and 2.6 on the same machine it's easy enoughyou just need to use the same version of the kernel driver. eg 5328. you simply install the 2.4 one which updates glx to 5328 version. Then extract the source for the header for the kernel driver patch them. reboot into 2.6 and compile them by hand. The kernel drivers install in /lib/modules/kernel-x.x.x-x/drivers/video with the 2.4 being in /lib/modules/kernel-2.4.xx-x/drivers/video and 2.6 in /lib/modules/kernel-2.6.xx-x/drivers/video I've got them quite happily existing side by side. As long as you use the same nvidia drivers version they're quite happy with sharing GLX. If I've totally missed the plot just ignore me :) Chad On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:01, Anguo wrote: On Friday 19 Dec 2003 4:44 am, JoeHill wrote: Can you not have two sets of drivers installed, kernel *and* GLX, as long as they are installed into seperate kernels? Seems to me, as I indicated below, he should be able to install both kernel and GLX drivers and have 3D acceleration in both kernels... I have now been able to get my new kernel working, and X and 3D acceleration. I have noticed that NVIDIA_kernel, just like the kernel, are installed side by side but the NVIDIA_GLX are upgraded. So the answer is no: we cannot have 3D accelerations in both kernels with the nvidia drivers. Thanks to all who helped. Augustin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
Hello, At last, I've come around to upgrading my kernel, after upgrading all the other applications to 9.2 when it came out. I got a fright when mandrake wouldn't boot (actually, it did but X didn't start, which comes to the same for me). My lilo.conf was a bit mixed up, but I managed to boot with the rescue cd and modify it, so that I can now boot with the old kernel. From searching the archives of this list and doing a lot of reading, I know that kernel images are installed side by side. So now I have: vmlinuz-2.4.22-21mdk vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk My question concern the nvidia driver. I have downloaded from the club: NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-4496-2.2.92mdk.i586.rpm but I am hesitating to urpmi it, because I don't understand how it would affect my current setup. If after installing the nvidia driver, there are any problem, I need to be able to boot with the old kernel (the one I am using now). I don't want to be in a situation where the new one doesn't work and the old one got broken because of conflicting nvidia driver version. I am not sure I express myself clearly here: Are the different versions of nvidia kernel modules installed side by side, like the kernel is? If I install the new module to use with the new kernel, will I still be able to use the old nvidia driver with the old kernel (a configuration that I know is working now)? If things go wrong, what would I then need to do in order to be able to boot and use X (my lifeline to get help...).? Lilo.conf is now setup to boot with the old kernel by default, but an option for the new kernel exists too. How should I modify it to select specific versions of nvidia drivers for each kernel image? thanks, Augustin -- UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:39:22 +0800 Anguo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question concern the nvidia driver. I have downloaded from the club: NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-4496-2.2.92mdk.i586.rpm but I am hesitating to urpmi it, because I don't understand how it would affect my current setup. If after installing the nvidia driver, there are any problem, I need to be able to boot with the old kernel (the one I am using now). I don't want to be in a situation where the new one doesn't work and the old one got broken because of conflicting nvidia driver version. If you install the Nvidia RPM while booted into that particular kernel version, you should be fine. It will install the Nvidia module/driver into the appropriate kernel, leaving the other alone. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Such mistakes could make the Afghan people think ill of the coalition... -- Bryan Hilferty, American Coalition Spokesman, on the murder of 9 innocent children by American attack planes in Afghanistan, Dec. 6, 2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Thursday 18 Dec 2003 4:55 pm, JoeHill wrote: but I am hesitating to urpmi it, because I don't understand how it would affect my current setup. If after installing the nvidia driver, there are any problem, I need to be able to boot with the old kernel (the one I am using now). I don't want to be in a situation where the new one doesn't work and the old one got broken because of conflicting nvidia driver version. If you install the Nvidia RPM while booted into that particular kernel version, you should be fine. It will install the Nvidia module/driver into the appropriate kernel, leaving the other alone. Thank you, Joe, I'd like to make sure I understand properly what you mean: I am using current_kernel with current_nvidia_driver. I have installed new_kernel and downloaded new_nvidia_driver. X won't start with new_kernel, so I am using current_kernel. you mean that I should boot with new_kernel, and from the console do urpmi new_nvidia_driver. I should NOT do it from current_kernel. After having done so, I will still have the choice in LILO to boot EITHER with current_kernel and current_nvidia_driver OR with new_kernel with the newly installed new_nvidia_driver. Thus, even if the new_nvidia rpm is badly corrupted, I WILL still have a working X running or current_kernel. Is this what you mean? (I used to try things before asking questions, and I have badly trashed my system in the past, leaving me unconnected and helpless. This time, I prefer to make sure that I will do things correctly). thanks, Augustin. -- In the news: Microsoft memo: Linux fight backfiring The software giant's efforts to mock open-source software such as Linux have worked against the company Read more: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2125524,00.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 02:17, Anguo wrote: On Thursday 18 Dec 2003 4:55 pm, JoeHill wrote: but I am hesitating to urpmi it, because I don't understand how it would affect my current setup. If after installing the nvidia driver, there are any problem, I need to be able to boot with the old kernel (the one I am using now). I don't want to be in a situation where the new one doesn't work and the old one got broken because of conflicting nvidia driver version. If you install the Nvidia RPM while booted into that particular kernel version, you should be fine. It will install the Nvidia module/driver into the appropriate kernel, leaving the other alone. Thank you, Joe, I'd like to make sure I understand properly what you mean: I am using current_kernel with current_nvidia_driver. I have installed new_kernel and downloaded new_nvidia_driver. X won't start with new_kernel, so I am using current_kernel. you mean that I should boot with new_kernel, and from the console do urpmi new_nvidia_driver. I should NOT do it from current_kernel. After having done so, I will still have the choice in LILO to boot EITHER with current_kernel and current_nvidia_driver OR with new_kernel with the newly installed new_nvidia_driver. Thus, even if the new_nvidia rpm is badly corrupted, I WILL still have a working X running or current_kernel. Is this what you mean? (I used to try things before asking questions, and I have badly trashed my system in the past, leaving me unconnected and helpless. This time, I prefer to make sure that I will do things correctly). thanks, Augustin. hwo did u get that kernel? cuz i want it... urpmi kernel-nvidia? -- jason pearl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ Keep your friends close and your enemies closer-Tupac ++ Kurrupted Visionz Phx, AZregistered linux user #307811 MDK 9.2 Linux http://counter.li.org AMD64 Opteron 1.6 ASUS SK8N signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:17:26 +0800 Anguo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you mean that I should boot with new_kernel, and from the console do urpmi new_nvidia_driver. I should NOT do it from current_kernel. Just to be on the safe side. I would bet dollars to doughnuts that the Nvidia RPM knows which kernel to install to, but hey... After having done so, I will still have the choice in LILO to boot EITHER with current_kernel and current_nvidia_driver OR with new_kernel with the newly installed new_nvidia_driver. Thus, even if the new_nvidia rpm is badly corrupted, I WILL still have a working X running or current_kernel. Is this what you mean? Yep. You shouldn't be in X when installing the Nvidia drivers anyway. The reason, of course, that X won't start with the new kenel, is that in your XF86Config-4 you have it set to load the Nvidia driver. As long as the old kernel is still loading the Nvidia driver, you can always go back. This whole kernel business *is* kinda unnerving, no? ;-) -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be.-- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 02:29, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:17:26 +0800 Anguo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you mean that I should boot with new_kernel, and from the console do urpmi new_nvidia_driver. I should NOT do it from current_kernel. Just to be on the safe side. I would bet dollars to doughnuts that the Nvidia RPM knows which kernel to install to, but hey... After having done so, I will still have the choice in LILO to boot EITHER with current_kernel and current_nvidia_driver OR with new_kernel with the newly installed new_nvidia_driver. Thus, even if the new_nvidia rpm is badly corrupted, I WILL still have a working X running or current_kernel. Is this what you mean? Yep. You shouldn't be in X when installing the Nvidia drivers anyway. The reason, of course, that X won't start with the new kenel, is that in your XF86Config-4 you have it set to load the Nvidia driver. As long as the old kernel is still loading the Nvidia driver, you can always go back. This whole kernel business *is* kinda unnerving, no? ;-) so how do u stop x? get out then xserver stop ??? then do the rpm nvidia.*.rpm? -- jason pearl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ Keep your friends close and your enemies closer-Tupac ++ Kurrupted Visionz Phx, AZregistered linux user #307811 MDK 9.2 Linux http://counter.li.org AMD64 Opteron 1.6 ASUS SK8N signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 05:40, jason pearl wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 02:29, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:17:26 +0800 Anguo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you mean that I should boot with new_kernel, and from the console do urpmi new_nvidia_driver. I should NOT do it from current_kernel. Just to be on the safe side. I would bet dollars to doughnuts that the Nvidia RPM knows which kernel to install to, but hey... After having done so, I will still have the choice in LILO to boot EITHER with current_kernel and current_nvidia_driver OR with new_kernel with the newly installed new_nvidia_driver. Thus, even if the new_nvidia rpm is badly corrupted, I WILL still have a working X running or current_kernel. Is this what you mean? Yep. You shouldn't be in X when installing the Nvidia drivers anyway. The reason, of course, that X won't start with the new kenel, is that in your XF86Config-4 you have it set to load the Nvidia driver. As long as the old kernel is still loading the Nvidia driver, you can always go back. This whole kernel business *is* kinda unnerving, no? ;-) so how do u stop x? get out then xserver stop ??? then do the rpm nvidia.*.rpm? If you boot directly to graphic mode: init 3 To go back to graphic mode: init 5 You must be root to enter those commands. Adolfo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
Anguo wrote: Hello, From searching the archives of this list and doing a lot of reading, I know that kernel images are installed side by side. So now I have:vmlinuz-2.4.22-21mdkvmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdkMy question concern the nvidia driver. I have downloaded from the club: NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-4496-2.2.92mdk.i586.rpm Pound to a penny you forgot to modify your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NVIDIA GeForce3 (generic) Driver nv --- change to this !!! Option DPMS EndSection There are two nvidia driver versions , the rpm and the tar ball, the rpm gives you the proprietry nvidia boot splash, the tar ball doesn't, both need the above modification, or did when I last did it in M9.1. Either way , I think the rpm installs on desktop is OK in which case do the text modification there, but the tar ball has to be out of X windows at a root consul, and you will need to do the edit form there, something like MC, or if you can fathom it vi. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
init 3 Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Thursday 18 Dec 2003 6:51 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: If you boot directly to graphic mode: init 3 When I do so, Linux starts in text mode but Mandrake always end up by starting X anyway without me doing anything. ??? Anguo -- Quote of the day: MS bet the firm on .NET Sun bet the firm on Java IBM bet the firm on Linux SCO bet the firm on Lawyers. by perly-king-69 Read more: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=71977cid=6498138 http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/22/0528203 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Thursday 18 Dec 2003 5:28 pm, jason pearl wrote: you mean that I should boot with new_kernel, and from the console do urpmi new_nvidia_driver. I should NOT do it from current_kernel. hwo did u get that kernel? cuz i want it... urpmi kernel-nvidia? Hello Jason, I was referring to NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-4496-2.2.92mdk.i586.rpm which I downloaded from the Mandrake Club rpm repository: http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/ Blessings, Anguo -- Quote of the day: Windows is a 32-bit GUI for a 16-bit OS initially written for an 8-bit CPU which is a descendant of a 4-bit microprocessor from a company with a 2-bit name who can't stand 1-bit of competition. http://sbp.f2o.org/2003/wypy?WinDows Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers (Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Thursday 18 Dec 2003 5:29 pm, JoeHill wrote: Yep. You shouldn't be in X when installing the Nvidia drivers anyway. The reason, of course, that X won't start with the new kenel, is that in your XF86Config-4 you have it set to load the Nvidia driver. As long as the old kernel is still loading the Nvidia driver, you can always go back. This whole kernel business *is* kinda unnerving, no? ;-) Yes, precisely my thoughts :) Anyhow, thank you Joe for your help so far. I did as you said. The good news is that the old kernel still boots properly (as you see, I am still writing to you...) The bad news is that the new one still won't start X. # rpm -qa | grep NVIDIA NVIDIA_GLX-4321-3mdk NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-4496-2.2.92mdk NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk-4321-3mdk Both NVIDIA_kernel are installed. # cat /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic) Driver nvidia Option DPMS EndSection As I just wrote to John: X doesn't start with the new kernel. Do the two kernel use the same /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file? Maybe they can use different ones, but I don't see why the settings should be any different: we are dealing with the same graphic card and monitor. I will buy at least one new computer sometimes next year, for my business. I will make some research about alternative video cards which won't require binary only drivers... thanks, Anguo. -- In the news: Namibia wisely spurns M$ 'gift' in favor of Linux. An educationnal charity shows Microsoft's philanthropy for what it really is in an open letter that says it all. Read more: http://www.schoolnet.na/news/stories/msft2002.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Thursday 18 Dec 2003 6:22 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Pound to a penny you forgot to modify your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NVIDIA GeForce3 (generic) Driver nv --- change to this !!! Option DPMS EndSection Hello John, Here is the relevant section in mine: Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic) Driver nvidia Option DPMS EndSection you mean I should change Driver nvidia to Driver nv??? What's the difference? There are two nvidia driver versions , the rpm and the tar ball, the rpm gives you the proprietry nvidia boot splash, the tar ball doesn't, both need the above modification, or did when I last did it in M9.1. Either way , I think the rpm installs on desktop is OK in which case do the text modification there, but the tar ball has to be out of X windows at a root consul, and you will need to do the edit form there, something like MC, or if you can fathom it vi. I installed the rpm: NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-4496-2.2.92mdk.i586.rpm I now have two kernels (the one that comes with 9.1 and the latest one for 9.2) and the two corresponding nvidia-kernel drivers. X doesn't start with the new kernel. Do the two kernel use the same /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file? Maybe they can use different ones, but I don't see why the settings should be anydifferent: we are dealing with the same graphic card and monitor. Thanks, Augustin -- In the news: What Gates' attacks on the GPL really mean Bill Gates has recently been intensifying his attacks on the GNU Public Licence. At the invitation of ZDNet UK, Richard Stallman defends his philosophy and extracts the underlying message in Gates' latest polemic Read more: http://comment.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t479-s2117582,00.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
Anguo wrote: On Thursday 18 Dec 2003 6:22 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Pound to a penny you forgot to modify your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NVIDIA GeForce3 (generic) Driver nv --- change to this !!! Option DPMS EndSection Hello John, Here is the relevant section in mine: Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic) Driver nvidia Option DPMS EndSection you mean I should change Driver nvidia to Driver nv??? What's the difference? That's right There are two nvidia driver versions , the rpm and the tar ball, the rpm gives you the proprietry nvidia boot splash, the tar ball doesn't, both need the above modification, or did when I last did it in M9.1. Either way , I think the rpm installs on desktop is OK in which case do the text modification there, but the tar ball has to be out of X windows at a root consul, and you will need to do the edit form there, something like MC, or if you can fathom it vi. I installed the rpm: NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-4496-2.2.92mdk.i586.rpm I now have two kernels (the one that comes with 9.1 and the latest one for 9.2) and the two corresponding nvidia-kernel drivers. X doesn't start with the new kernel. Do the two kernel use the same /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file? Maybe they can use different ones, but I don't see why the settings should be anydifferent: we are dealing with the same graphic card and monitor. Thanks, Augustin John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Thursday 18 December 2003 16:31, John Richard Smith wrote: Here is the relevant section in mine: Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic) Driver nvidia Option DPMS EndSection you mean I should change Driver nvidia to Driver nv??? What's the difference? That's right Actually it's not right (but not wrong, either) nv is the generic nvidia- driver that comes with XFree86. nvidia is the proprietary driver delivered by Nvidia themselves and uses the kernel module. nv works quite well but doesn't offer hardware acceleration. If the existing XFRee86Config-4 says nvidia and you've got X going, means you installed the kernel-drivers and are using them. If it doesn't work you can always use nv which doesn't require extra drivers. Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Friday 19 Dec 2003 1:05 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Thursday 18 December 2003 16:31, John Richard Smith wrote: Here is the relevant section in mine: Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic) Driver nvidia Option DPMS EndSection you mean I should change Driver nvidia to Driver nv??? What's the difference? That's right Actually it's not right (but not wrong, either) nv is the generic nvidia- driver that comes with XFree86. nvidia is the proprietary driver delivered by Nvidia themselves and uses the kernel module. nv works quite well but doesn't offer hardware acceleration. If the existing XFRee86Config-4 says nvidia and you've got X going, means you installed the kernel-drivers and are using them. If it doesn't work you can always use nv which doesn't require extra drivers. Good luck, HarM Yes, I just tried and effectively, with nv, X now starts with both kernel images but tuxracer and other 3D apps won't run anymore. So, now, I have the choice: either an updated kernel, or 3D games :-| augustin -- Quote of the day: Speak your mind. Don't back down. IBM advertising about Linux Read more: http://www-3.ibm.com/e-business/doc/content/lp/prodigy.html http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=164838 http://www.adage.com/news.cms?newsId=38634 http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/04/1821217 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Thursday 18 December 2003 16:31, John Richard Smith wrote: Here is the relevant section in mine: Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic) Driver nvidia Option DPMS EndSection you mean I should change Driver nvidia to Driver nv??? What's the difference? That's right Actually it's not right (but not wrong, either) nv is the generic nvidia- driver that comes with XFree86. nvidia is the proprietary driver delivered by Nvidia themselves and uses the kernel module. nv works quite well but doesn't offer hardware acceleration. If the existing XFRee86Config-4 says nvidia and you've got X going, means you installed the kernel-drivers and are using them. If it doesn't work you can always use nv which doesn't require extra drivers. Good luck, HarM I didn't know that HarM, So how do you get the hardware acceleration going then, because it just nvidia nothing works ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
Title: RE: XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of H.J.Bathoorn Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way... On Thursday 18 December 2003 16:31, John Richard Smith wrote: Here is the relevant section in mine: Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic) Driver nvidia Option DPMS EndSection you mean I should change Driver nvidia to Driver nv??? What's the difference? That's right Actually it's not right (but not wrong, either) nv is the generic nvidia- driver that comes with XFree86. nvidia is the proprietary driver delivered by Nvidia themselves and uses the kernel module. nv works quite well but doesn't offer hardware acceleration. If the existing XFRee86Config-4 says nvidia and you've got X going, means you installed the kernel-drivers and are using them. If it doesn't work you can always use nv which doesn't require extra drivers. Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org With the proprietary driver you also need Load glx in the section that has all the Load script. HTH
Re: XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:11:28 +0100 H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you have the choice of googling around, asking questions here, maybe downloading more stuff from nvidia going over it all again, getting your 3D going and learning a lot..or: You leave it as it is, happy with the fact that the nv driver is GPL and X works none the less and get on with some serious work;) Can you not have two sets of drivers installed, kernel *and* GLX, as long as they are installed into seperate kernels? Seems to me, as I indicated below, he should be able to install both kernel and GLX drivers and have 3D acceleration in both kernels... It makes sense logically anyway. This sounds like a job for...TOM BRINKMAN! ;-) -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third.-- Timothy Leary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
robin wrote: Anguo wrote: On Thursday 18 Dec 2003 6:22 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Pound to a penny you forgot to modify your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NVIDIA GeForce3 (generic) Driver nv --- change to this !!!Option DPMS EndSection Hello John, Here is the relevant section in mine: Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic) Driver nvidia Option DPMS EndSection you mean I should change Driver nvidia to Driver nv??? What's the difference? nv is the driver that comes with XFree86; nvidia is the one from nvidia. Sir Robin Really, how odd, nv is the one that provides tv out on my equipement, nvidia does not !! XFree86 provides no tv-out John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Thursday 18 December 2003 17:38, John Richard Smith wrote: I didn't know that HarM, So how do you get the hardware acceleration going then, because if just nvidia nothing works ? John There's only one prerequisite: The binary nvidia-drivers for the kernel and the NVIDIA-GLX rpm. Personally I had no success with either club rpms or the latest nvidia-installer. In the past the geforce2 card worked fine with modules I'd compiled from the nvidia site. I ditched the card for a Hercules 3DProphet card, though. See the twiki on comments about that one, I added some stuff. BTW does TV-out work on the nv driver?? It most certainly does, and it does not with nvidia That is what threw me, that is true of both rpm/tar ball nividia drivers too. So I'm astounded that you can get any nividia driver to work with nvidia instead of nv John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:19:27 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm astounded that you can get any nividia driver to work with nvidia instead of nv Strange, I must be lucky, I've never had one bit of trouble with the Nvidia drivers, other than never being able to get TV-out to work. I'll hafta try starting X with the nv driver and see if I can get that goin', that would be sweet. What do you use for TV out, ie. what software? NVTV? -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush Administration again, all right?-- Bill O'Reilly, March 18, 2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:19:27 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm astounded that you can get any nividia driver to work with nvidia instead of nv Strange, I must be lucky, I've never had one bit of trouble with the Nvidia drivers, other than never being able to get TV-out to work. I'll hafta try starting X with the nv driver and see if I can get that goin', that would be sweet. What do you use for TV out, ie. what software? NVTV? Yep , that's the kiddie John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
rpm -qil NVIDIA... Re: XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers (Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Friday 19 Dec 2003 2:18 am, Pablo Vitoria wrote: Can you send the output of: rpm -qil NVIDIA_GLX-4321-3mdk rpm -qil NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-4496-2.2.92mdk rpm -qil NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk-4321-3mdk Hello Pablo and everybody, Thanks to all who responded in this thread (Pablo, Joe, HarM, Adolfo, Robin, John, Dennis...) It's getting confuser and confuser... so beside the new kernel and the new nvidia driver, it seems that I also need the corresponding new nvidia-glx driver, which I just found in the club repository... I will install it and see how it goes (i may not have time to do so today though: my week end is over and I'm back to work for the next six days). As always, my primary concern is to be left with a broken box I cannot log into (X, that is). I think I have learned enough in this thread to manage should a problem arise. I'll look at the glx driver issue, but meanwhile, here is the output. If I am missing something, or should pay attention to something specific, your comments are appreciated. $ rpm -qil NVIDIA_GLX-4321-3mdk Name: NVIDIA_GLX Relocations: /usr Version : 4321 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 3mdk Build Date: Sat 15 Mar 2003 02:49:37 AM CST Install Date: Sun 11 May 2003 06:30:36 PM CST Build Host: localhost Group : System/Kernel and hardwareSource RPM: NVIDIA-4321-3mdk.src.rpm Size: 12624948 License: NVIDIA Corp. 2000 Signature : DSA/SHA1, Sat 15 Mar 2003 03:16:50 AM CST, Key ID e7898ae070771ff3 Packager: Mandrake Linux Team http://www.mandrakeexpert.com Summary : NVIDIA module for XFree86 4.0 X server and OpenGL libraries Description : NVIDIA XFree86 4.0 server module and OpenGL 1.2 libraries for RIVA TNT/TNT2 and GeForce/Quadro based video cards. Older RIVA 128 based video cards are supported by the server module shipping with XFree86 4.0, nv_drv.o. You should install this package if you have one of the newer cards. You must also install the NVIDIA_kernel module if you want to utilize these drivers. /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA.so.1.0.4321 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA_dynamic.so.1 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so.1.0.4321 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/tls/libglx.so /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/tls/libglx.so.1.0.4321 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.4321 /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.4321 /usr/lib/tls/libGL.so.1.0.4321 /usr/lib/tls/libGLcore.so.1.0.4321 $ rpm -qil NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-4496-2.2.92mdk Name: NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.22.21mdk Relocations: /usr Version : 4496 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 2.2.92mdk Build Date: Sat 25 Oct 2003 03:12:09 PM CST Install Date: Thu 18 Dec 2003 10:58:42 PM CST Build Host: updates.mandrakesoft.com Group : System/Kernel and hardwareSource RPM: NVIDIA-4496-2.2.92mdk.src.rpm Size: 797678 License: NVIDIA Corp. 2000 Signature : DSA/SHA1, Sat 25 Oct 2003 03:14:39 PM CST, Key ID 9aa8d0d022458a98 Packager: Mandrake Linux Team http://www.mandrakeexpert.com Summary : NVIDIA kernel module for NVIDIA Architecture support. Description : NVIDIA Architecture support for Linux kernel 2.4.22.21mdk /lib/modules/2.4.22-21mdk/kernel/drivers/char/nvidia.o.gz /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-4496 /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-4496/LICENSE /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-4496/README $ rpm -qil NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk-4321-3mdk Name: NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk Relocations: /usr Version : 4321 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 3mdk Build Date: Sat 15 Mar 2003 02:49:37 AM CST Install Date: Sun 11 May 2003 06:30:30 PM CST Build Host: localhost Group : System/Kernel and hardwareSource RPM: NVIDIA-4321-3mdk.src.rpm Size: 740992 License: NVIDIA Corp. 2000 Signature : DSA/SHA1, Sat 15 Mar 2003 03:16:50 AM CST, Key ID e7898ae070771ff3 Packager: Mandrake Linux Team http://www.mandrakeexpert.com Summary : NVIDIA kernel module for NVIDIA Architecture support. Description : NVIDIA Architecture support for Linux kernel 2.4.21.0.13mdk /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdk/kernel/drivers/char/NVdriver.o.gz /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk-4321 /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk-4321/README Thanks to all, augustin -- Light tomorrow with today! --Elizabeth Barrett Browning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
startx Re: init 3 Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Friday 19 Dec 2003 2:42 am, robin wrote: When I do so, Linux starts in text mode but Mandrake always end up by starting X anyway without me doing anything. ??? Look in the Mandrake Control Center - Hardware - XFdrake - Options. You probably have it set to start X automatically, so click No. Hello Sir Robin, yes, that's it. Once I have booted in console mode, how do I start KDE again? I see the following two commands: startkde startx Should I do startx before startkde? Augustin -- Definition: SCOurce code: invisible, yet high value code that does not exist in any physical form. Beyond quantum code. by EmbeddedJanitor http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=67171cid=6166537 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: XF86Config-4 and nvidia drivers (Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Friday 19 Dec 2003 4:30 am, JoeHill wrote: Eventually, what you might want to do, once the new kernel has proven itself stable and solid, is *uninstall* the 4321 drivers and install the 4496 GLX binary. ok, I will try this. thanks Joe, Augustin -- Linux. The Future is Open. Linux is like nothing else in the history of computing-the most unique innovation operating systems have ever seen. It's unprecedented integration. It's an open source operating system. Owned by no single company or private enterprise. Constantly improved by thousands of programmers. And it's getting bigger. Last year, according to the IDC, shipments of servers running Linux increased by 22.8%. IBM about Linux http://www-3.ibm.com/e-business/doc/content/lp/prodigy.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: startx Re: init 3 Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 12:55:21PM +0800, Anguo wrote: yes, that's it. Once I have booted in console mode, how do I start KDE again? I see the following two commands: startkde startx Should I do startx before startkde? If you haven't messed with your ~/.xsession (and/or ~/.xinitrc) files then I believe startx starts KDE anyway, since KDE is the default environment in drake. Todd -- Zinn-Chomsky 2004 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: startx Re: init 3 Re: [newbie] upgrading nvidia kernel in a safe way...
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:55:21 +0800 Anguo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I do startx before startkde? actually, you can just type kde. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ The United States Drug Enforcement Agency estimates pot smuggling from the western province of British Columbia alone is worth more than $1 billion a year. This is *very* bad, because Bush and his pals are not seeing one dime out of it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] after NVidia drivers install, how to edit xf86config file
Am a bit stuck on x86config file editing, i.e. don't have a clue. I successfully installed the Nvidia driver pack, but now need to edit the x86config to run it so that I can finally boot into X rather than just the console. Maxim. p.s. thanks ed tharp and stephen kuhnforlast advice. Will do you the honour of reading some manulas this summer so I can move forward a little more quickly.
[newbie] after Nvidia driver install, how do to edit X86config?
Am a bit stuck on x86config file editing, i.e. don't have a clue. I successfully installed the Nvidia driver pack, but now need to edit the x86config to run it so that I can finally boot into X rather than just the console. Maxim. p.s. thanks ed tharp and stephen kuhnforlast advice. Will do you the honour of reading some manulas this summer so I can move forward a little more quickly.
Re: [newbie] after Nvidia driver install, how do to edit X86config?
On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 20:52, maxim j NARBROUGH wrote: Am a bit stuck on x86config file editing, i.e. don't have a clue. I successfully installed the Nvidia driver pack, but now need to edit the x86config to run it so that I can finally boot into X rather than just the console. You need to become root (either log in as root or run the su command). Then you need to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and make the changes prescribed by NVidia. Note that you need to edit /etc/inittab (or run MCC and go through the boot section) to make X load at boottime. Good luck Paul -- I am not a politician and my other habits are also good. -A. Ward http://nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Ximian Evolution Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] after NVidia drivers install, how to edit xf86config file
login as normal user: then write su - enter your root password vi cd /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 the path may be /etc/X11R6/XF86Config-4 this editor is kind of tricky (for a win user like me) go to the line Driver nv press insert on nv. correct it to nvidia press Escape. press : press wq press Enter now you are in prompt again you can test if the correction is saved with more /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 restart your machine. manolis (a newbie but still fanatic linux user) 12 2003 20:13, / Maxim : Am a bit stuck on x86config file editing, i.e. don't have a clue. I successfully installed the Nvidia driver pack, but now need to edit the x86config to run it so that I can finally boot into X rather than just the console. Maxim. p.s. thanks ed tharp and stephen kuhn for last advice. Will do you the honour of reading some manulas this summer so I can move forward a little more quickly. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] after NVidia drivers install, how to edit xf86configfile
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 03:13, Maxim wrote: Am a bit stuck on x86config file editing, i.e. don't have a clue. I successfully installed the Nvidia driver pack, but now need to edit the x86config to run it so that I can finally boot into X rather than just the console. Maxim. Edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file - locate the part where the driver is listed as nv and change it to nvidia - then try to fire up XWindows. p.s. thanks ed tharp and stephen kuhn for last advice. Will do you the honour of reading some manulas this summer so I can move forward a little more quickly. (I'll try - but reading is something I try to force on my kids, not on myself) -- Fri Jun 13 08:45:01 EST 2003 08:45:01 up 1 day, 8:43, 3 users, load average: 0.85, 0.97, 0.99 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Marge: You don't have to join a freak show just because the opportunity came along. Homer: You know, Marge, in some ways you and I are very different people. Homerpalooza Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie-it] NVIDIA
NON era certo mia intenzione offendere nessuno, solonon vorrei che si divagasse troppo... - Original Message - From: Daniele Micci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] NVIDIA Alle 15:37, domenica 1 dicembre 2002, Roberto C. 2° ha scritto: Trovami tu allora come Considerazione estemporanea: non è il modo più carino per rispondere a chi cerca di darti una mano. Tanto più che chi ti risponde cerca di aiutarti a risolvere un *tuo* problema. Forse un po' di educazione non guasterebbe, no? :) Daniele -- «Il mondo si divide in 10 tipi di persone: quelle che conoscono la numerazione binaria, e quelle che non la conoscono.»
Re: [newbie-it] NVIDIA
Alle 17:42, domenica 1 dicembre 2002, Roberto C. 2° ha scritto: NON era certo mia intenzione offendere nessuno, solonon vorrei che si divagasse troppo... OK, allora mi scuso... nelle email, come in tutti i testi scritti, è spesso difficile capire il tono della frase (per questo hanno inventato le classiche faccine): mi era sembrato un tono un po' sgarbato. Io non ho ancora avuto tempo di vedere il sito NVIDIA; ma, da quel che ricordo, c'era un file README molto chiaro, riguardo le procedure di installazione ed i file da scaricare... Daniele -- «Il mondo si divide in 10 tipi di persone: quelle che conoscono la numerazione binaria, e quelle che non la conoscono.»
Re: [newbie-it] NVIDIA
figurati ;-) ...è che a volte si tende a essere sintetici ed essenziale ...ora vado torno dopo...se avete qualche idea... Ciao - Original Message - From: Daniele Micci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] NVIDIA Alle 17:42, domenica 1 dicembre 2002, Roberto C. 2° ha scritto: NON era certo mia intenzione offendere nessuno, solonon vorrei che si divagasse troppo... OK, allora mi scuso... nelle email, come in tutti i testi scritti, è spesso difficile capire il tono della frase (per questo hanno inventato le classiche faccine): mi era sembrato un tono un po' sgarbato. Io non ho ancora avuto tempo di vedere il sito NVIDIA; ma, da quel che ricordo, c'era un file README molto chiaro, riguardo le procedure di installazione ed i file da scaricare... Daniele -- «Il mondo si divide in 10 tipi di persone: quelle che conoscono la numerazione binaria, e quelle che non la conoscono.»
Re: [newbie-it] NVIDIA
Roberto C. 2° wrote: figurati ;-) ...è che a volte si tende a essere sintetici ed essenziale ...ora vado torno dopo...se avete qualche idea... Ciao - Original Message - From: Daniele Micci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] NVIDIA Alle 17:42, domenica 1 dicembre 2002, Roberto C. 2° ha scritto: NON era certo mia intenzione offendere nessuno, solonon vorrei che si divagasse troppo... OK, allora mi scuso... nelle email, come in tutti i testi scritti, è spesso difficile capire il tono della frase (per questo hanno inventato le classiche faccine): mi era sembrato un tono un po' sgarbato. Io non ho ancora avuto tempo di vedere il sito NVIDIA; ma, da quel che ricordo, c'era un file README molto chiaro, riguardo le procedure di installazione ed i file da scaricare... Daniele -- «Il mondo si divide in 10 tipi di persone: quelle che conoscono la numerazione binaria, e quelle che non la conoscono.» allora: sito nvidia scaricati src.rpm sia del glx che il kernel esegui questo comando rpm--rebuild nome rpm fallo per entrambifile: poi cerca il pacchetto compilato in /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586 ok adesso li installi poi editi con vim emacs come ti pare il file XF86..-4 e sostituisci nv con nvidia riavvii X ed il gioco e' fatto! non vorrei aver perso tempo oppure essere stato poco sintetico ribadisco l'appunto fatto da DAniele ciao vete
Re: [newbie-it] NVIDIA
Potresti essere piu preciso con il tuo Posr che poi lo stampo e provo? GRAZIE1000 :-) - Original Message - From: francesco.melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] NVIDIA allora: sito nvidia scaricati src.rpm sia del glx che il kernel esegui questo comando rpm--rebuild nome rpm fallo per entrambifile: poi cerca il pacchetto compilato in /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586 ok adesso li installi poi editi con vim emacs come ti pare il file XF86..-4 e sostituisci nv con nvidia riavvii X ed il gioco e' fatto! non vorrei aver perso tempo oppure essere stato poco sintetico ribadisco l'appunto fatto da DAniele ciao vete
Re: [newbie] X, nVidia drivers ...
On Saturday 26 Oct 2002 4:41 am, Dale Huckeby wrote: Bummer. So it's not an X problem per se. Afraid I'm out of my depth, but I did do a quick Google search on dcopserver, and found a conversation about inability to start kde. Are you able to use a browser? If so: http://dot.kde.org/1021838067/1022774059/1028119025/ should take you to that page, if I haven't flubbed the copying. The most useful comment I found (since it's on a Solaris I don't know how useful it'll be) is that you should do chmod 01777 on three files: /tmp/.ICE-unix /tmp/.X11-pipe /tmp/.X11-unix Haven't investigated further, and don't know how Solaris' file structure might differ from Mandrake's, but maybe this is a lead that might turn out to be useful. Thanks Dale, I'll reinstall the nvidia drivers again and try that. Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X, nVidia drivers ...
On Saturday 26 Oct 2002 6:19 am, Robin Turner wrote: Dale Huckeby wrote: Bummer. So it's not an X problem per se. Afraid I'm out of my depth, but I did do a quick Google search on dcopserver, and found a conversation about inability to start kde. Are you able to use a browser? If so: http://dot.kde.org/1021838067/1022774059/1028119025/ should take you to that page, if I haven't flubbed the copying. The most useful comment I found (since it's on a Solaris I don't know how useful it'll be) is that you should do chmod 01777 on three files: /tmp/.ICE-unix /tmp/.X11-pipe /tmp/.X11-unix Haven't investigated further, and don't know how Solaris' file structure might differ from Mandrake's, but maybe this is a lead that might turn out to be useful. Check permissions in pam.conf as well. Sir Robin Thanks Robin, I'll look in PAM. Just did a quick check and I don't have a pam.conf file but according to man pam.conf the files in /etc/pam.d/ do the same thing so I will look through those. Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X, nVidia drivers ...
On Thursday 24 Oct 2002 4:52 pm, Rainer wrote: after using mdk 8.2 for almost 8 months, i still seem to be unable to get the x server and my nvidia card to coexist peacefully. it took me a couple of months to get it to be relatively stable after the first install. i got the glx and kernel rpms at that time and i believe i had to reinstall the kernel drivers from tar.gz. my news readers still froze after this (pan, mozilla, knode) but the rest seemed alright. recently, i had to reinstall mdk 8.2. i got the latest drivers and my x server won't start at all. checked all the documentation i could find, nvidia readme, mandrake user nvidia section and i'm still at a loss, the config-4 file was fine. after spending about 10 hours on this the easiest thing to do seems to be to reinstall. but i don't want to go through that again unless i have a pretty good idea about what the problem is, and a relatively straight forward solution (this is a newbie speaking!) does 9.0 deal better with the nvidia geforce2 mx/mx 400? i installed red hat 8.0 and the graphics are rock solid so far. i would like to continue with mandrake because i've spent some time with it and know it better but not at the expense of a monitor that freezes regularly. i'd appreciate an honest answer, i know how these distribution biases color peoples judgement. thanks Firstly, I apologise for the long message. rant Well... today I have just spent from 7.15am to 6.45pm (minus 1/2 hour lunch break) trying to get the nvidia drivers working in 9.0 AND STILL NO GO! Didn't have a problem in 8.1. I have been trying to get the drivers working on and off for weeks! I ended up installing RH7.3 (dual boot) just so I can play Quake3 and UT2003. I've tried (and retried each many times), the club rpms, source rpms and the tarballs. I don't know if it has anything to do with it but I'm using the enterprise kernel (1024 MB RAM). I did get the club enterprise rpm with urpmi. After installing the drivers (and editing XF86Config-4) I can start FluxBox, BlackBox, Enlightenment, etc but I can't start Gnome or KDE (I use KDE). I get the following error when trying to start KDE as root or user: msg There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. Tthe message returned by the system was: Could not read network connection list: /home/sharrea/.DCOPserver_tbird.tux.nz__0 Please check that the dcopserver program is running! /msg Then the system takes forever to try to recover when I CTRL+ALT+Backspace but it usually ends up hanging and I use the ALT+SysRq combinations to end process, sync and reboot. Also the KDE apps like kedit, kmail, etc won't run in the other WMs but I can play tuxracer and UT2003. I checked (many times) that the libglx*, libGL.so* and libGLcore* files are installed correctly. I tried all the different options for NvAGP and added all sorts of things to /etc/modules.conf. One thing I noticed is that I only have nvidia0 and nvidiactl in the /dev dir (I don't get nvidia1, nvidia2 or nvidia3, etc). And another thing I noticed is that stopping the devfsd service on boot and editing /etc/lilo.conf to devfs=nomount (+ running /sbin/lilo afterwards) then rebooting doesn't stop devfsd from starting at boot! I've been searching all over the net for answers and trying suggestions given to others with a similar problem but like I said, no go. Anyway I've rebooted and shutdown about 30-40 times today and I've just about had enough so I think I'll just give up on the nvidia drivers for 9.0. Guess I'll just have to use RH : ( /rant OK, having said all that, many others have got the nvidia drivers working in 9.0 without a hitch. Oh, I'm so envious. Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X, nVidia drivers ...
that error is not an nvidia error, i could be wrong but open a console and delete the following ~/.DCOP* yo should find that kde now starts, at least that what i have done when i had that error, i also emptied /tmp but i don't think that is necessary bascule On Thursday 24 Oct 2002 7:57 am, Sharrea wrote: On Thursday 24 Oct 2002 4:52 pm, Rainer wrote: after using mdk 8.2 for almost 8 months, i still seem to be unable to get the x server and my nvidia card to coexist peacefully. it took me a couple of months to get it to be relatively stable after the first install. i got the glx and kernel rpms at that time and i believe i had to reinstall the kernel drivers from tar.gz. my news readers still froze after this (pan, mozilla, knode) but the rest seemed alright. recently, i had to reinstall mdk 8.2. i got the latest drivers and my x server won't start at all. checked all the documentation i could find, nvidia readme, mandrake user nvidia section and i'm still at a loss, the config-4 file was fine. after spending about 10 hours on this the easiest thing to do seems to be to reinstall. but i don't want to go through that again unless i have a pretty good idea about what the problem is, and a relatively straight forward solution (this is a newbie speaking!) does 9.0 deal better with the nvidia geforce2 mx/mx 400? i installed red hat 8.0 and the graphics are rock solid so far. i would like to continue with mandrake because i've spent some time with it and know it better but not at the expense of a monitor that freezes regularly. i'd appreciate an honest answer, i know how these distribution biases color peoples judgement. thanks Firstly, I apologise for the long message. rant Well... today I have just spent from 7.15am to 6.45pm (minus 1/2 hour lunch break) trying to get the nvidia drivers working in 9.0 AND STILL NO GO! Didn't have a problem in 8.1. I have been trying to get the drivers working on and off for weeks! I ended up installing RH7.3 (dual boot) just so I can play Quake3 and UT2003. I've tried (and retried each many times), the club rpms, source rpms and the tarballs. I don't know if it has anything to do with it but I'm using the enterprise kernel (1024 MB RAM). I did get the club enterprise rpm with urpmi. After installing the drivers (and editing XF86Config-4) I can start FluxBox, BlackBox, Enlightenment, etc but I can't start Gnome or KDE (I use KDE). I get the following error when trying to start KDE as root or user: msg There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. Tthe message returned by the system was: Could not read network connection list: /home/sharrea/.DCOPserver_tbird.tux.nz__0 Please check that the dcopserver program is running! /msg Then the system takes forever to try to recover when I CTRL+ALT+Backspace but it usually ends up hanging and I use the ALT+SysRq combinations to end process, sync and reboot. Also the KDE apps like kedit, kmail, etc won't run in the other WMs but I can play tuxracer and UT2003. I checked (many times) that the libglx*, libGL.so* and libGLcore* files are installed correctly. I tried all the different options for NvAGP and added all sorts of things to /etc/modules.conf. One thing I noticed is that I only have nvidia0 and nvidiactl in the /dev dir (I don't get nvidia1, nvidia2 or nvidia3, etc). And another thing I noticed is that stopping the devfsd service on boot and editing /etc/lilo.conf to devfs=nomount (+ running /sbin/lilo afterwards) then rebooting doesn't stop devfsd from starting at boot! I've been searching all over the net for answers and trying suggestions given to others with a similar problem but like I said, no go. Anyway I've rebooted and shutdown about 30-40 times today and I've just about had enough so I think I'll just give up on the nvidia drivers for 9.0. Guess I'll just have to use RH : ( /rant OK, having said all that, many others have got the nvidia drivers working in 9.0 without a hitch. Oh, I'm so envious. Sharrea -- `The best way to get a drink out of a Vogon is to stick your finger down his throat...' - The Book, on one of the Vogon's social inadequacies. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X, nVidia drivers ...
Thanks bascule, but I already did remove ~/.DCOP* and /tmp/* (countless times) but that made no difference. Also removed ~/.ICEauthority ~/.mcoprc ~/.mcop/ - also didn't help. Obviously, one of the files that Gnome and KDE use is getting stuffed up. Thanks for the reply tho. Ah well... Sharrea On Thursday 24 Oct 2002 8:37 pm, bascule wrote: that error is not an nvidia error, i could be wrong but open a console and delete the following ~/.DCOP* yo should find that kde now starts, at least that what i have done when i had that error, i also emptied /tmp but i don't think that is necessary bascule On Thursday 24 Oct 2002 7:57 am, Sharrea wrote: snip I get the following error when trying to start KDE as root or user: msg There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. Tthe message returned by the system was: Could not read network connection list: /home/sharrea/.DCOPserver_tbird.tux.nz__0 Please check that the dcopserver program is running! /msg Then the system takes forever to try to recover when I CTRL+ALT+Backspace but it usually ends up hanging and I use the ALT+SysRq combinations to end process, sync and reboot. Also the KDE apps like kedit, kmail, etc won't run in the other WMs but I can play tuxracer and UT2003. snip -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X, nVidia drivers ...
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Rainer wrote: Where can I find those old .29xx drivers? thanks. Go to http://www.nvidia.com/ Click on Download Drivers Click on Linux Display Drivers Choose second rather than first driver in list. That will take you to the download page for the 2960 driver files. Good luck! Dale Huckeby - Original Message - From: Dale Huckeby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] X, nVidia drivers ... . . . OK, having said all that, many others have got the nvidia drivers working in 9.0 without a hitch. Oh, I'm so envious. I've had devfsd problems before, so anymore I just don't install it. I don't know if uninstalling it will have the same benefit, but it's worth a shot. Also, you've probably already been through this, but if you're using the nvidia 3123 drivers instead of 2960, that's likely your problem right there. The newer drivers screwed my and apparently some others' screens up good. Dale Huckeby Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X, nVidia drivers ...
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Sharrea wrote: On Thursday 24 Oct 2002 4:52 pm, Rainer wrote: after using mdk 8.2 for almost 8 months, i still seem to be unable to get the x server and my nvidia card to coexist peacefully. it took me a couple of months to get it to be relatively stable after the first install. i got the glx and kernel rpms at that time and i believe i had to reinstall the kernel drivers from tar.gz. my news readers still froze after this (pan, mozilla, knode) but the rest seemed alright. recently, i had to reinstall mdk 8.2. i got the latest drivers and my x server won't start at all. checked all the documentation i could find, nvidia readme, mandrake user nvidia section and i'm still at a loss, the config-4 file was fine. after spending about 10 hours on this the easiest thing to do seems to be to reinstall. but i don't want to go through that again unless i have a pretty good idea about what the problem is, and a relatively straight forward solution (this is a newbie speaking!) does 9.0 deal better with the nvidia geforce2 mx/mx 400? i installed red hat 8.0 and the graphics are rock solid so far. i would like to continue with mandrake because i've spent some time with it and know it better but not at the expense of a monitor that freezes regularly. i'd appreciate an honest answer, i know how these distribution biases color peoples judgement. thanks Firstly, I apologise for the long message. rant Well... today I have just spent from 7.15am to 6.45pm (minus 1/2 hour lunch break) trying to get the nvidia drivers working in 9.0 AND STILL NO GO! Didn't have a problem in 8.1. I have been trying to get the drivers working on and off for weeks! I ended up installing RH7.3 (dual boot) just so I can play Quake3 and UT2003. I've tried (and retried each many times), the club rpms, source rpms and the tarballs. I don't know if it has anything to do with it but I'm using the enterprise kernel (1024 MB RAM). I did get the club enterprise rpm with urpmi. After installing the drivers (and editing XF86Config-4) I can start FluxBox, BlackBox, Enlightenment, etc but I can't start Gnome or KDE (I use KDE). I get the following error when trying to start KDE as root or user: msg There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. Tthe message returned by the system was: Could not read network connection list: /home/sharrea/.DCOPserver_tbird.tux.nz__0 Please check that the dcopserver program is running! /msg Then the system takes forever to try to recover when I CTRL+ALT+Backspace but it usually ends up hanging and I use the ALT+SysRq combinations to end process, sync and reboot. Also the KDE apps like kedit, kmail, etc won't run in the other WMs but I can play tuxracer and UT2003. I checked (many times) that the libglx*, libGL.so* and libGLcore* files are installed correctly. I tried all the different options for NvAGP and added all sorts of things to /etc/modules.conf. One thing I noticed is that I only have nvidia0 and nvidiactl in the /dev dir (I don't get nvidia1, nvidia2 or nvidia3, etc). And another thing I noticed is that stopping the devfsd service on boot and editing /etc/lilo.conf to devfs=nomount (+ running /sbin/lilo afterwards) then rebooting doesn't stop devfsd from starting at boot! I've been searching all over the net for answers and trying suggestions given to others with a similar problem but like I said, no go. Anyway I've rebooted and shutdown about 30-40 times today and I've just about had enough so I think I'll just give up on the nvidia drivers for 9.0. Guess I'll just have to use RH : ( /rant OK, having said all that, many others have got the nvidia drivers working in 9.0 without a hitch. Oh, I'm so envious. I've had devfsd problems before, so anymore I just don't install it. I don't know if uninstalling it will have the same benefit, but it's worth a shot. Also, you've probably already been through this, but if you're using the nvidia 3123 drivers instead of 2960, that's likely your problem right there. The newer drivers screwed my and apparently some others' screens up good. Dale Huckeby Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] X, nVidia problems ...
hello, tried to install some new nvid drivers for man 8.2, went to nvidia, matched the kernel and glx (3XXX) versions. the kernel installed fine, but the glx didn't want to. used the '-e' option outlined in the nvid read me and it installed but now X won't start at boot up! since i'm no expert on the console, i'm in trouble deep. any way to get myself out of this mess that isn't too complicated? any help would be appreciated. thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X, nVidia problems ...
is this the first time for installing nvidia drivers? if so then you need to edit /etc/X11/XF86config-4 and find nv in the driver section and change it to nvidia also make sure load glx is added after the freetype reference in the modules section if not then you know this:-) bascule On Thursday 17 Oct 2002 7:01 pm, Rainer wrote: hello, tried to install some new nvid drivers for man 8.2, went to nvidia, matched the kernel and glx (3XXX) versions. the kernel installed fine, but the glx didn't want to. used the '-e' option outlined in the nvid read me and it installed but now X won't start at boot up! since i'm no expert on the console, i'm in trouble deep. any way to get myself out of this mess that isn't too complicated? any help would be appreciated. thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X, nVidia problems ...
Op Thursday 17 October 2002 20:01, schreef u: Mine worked after first erasing the old GLX files and afterwards installing the new nvidia GLX rpm . Also don't forget to change some setting in your XF86Config-4 (see nvidia docs). hello, tried to install some new nvid drivers for man 8.2, went to nvidia, matched the kernel and glx (3XXX) versions. the kernel installed fine, but the glx didn't want to. used the '-e' option outlined in the nvid read me and it installed but now X won't start at boot up! since i'm no expert on the console, i'm in trouble deep. any way to get myself out of this mess that isn't too complicated? any help would be appreciated. thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X, nVidia problems ...
On Thursday 17 October 2002 03:03 pm, Bart Salien wrote: Op Thursday 17 October 2002 20:01, schreef u: Not Quite on the subject but pretty close. I have 9.0 installed and my GForce 4 is using the generic Nvidia driver right now. All I found at the nvidia site was for 8.2. I'm probably guessing right, but I'm not able to use those drivers. Correct? I've downloaded them but haven't done anything yet until I get a yes or a no on this. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank You. Mine worked after first erasing the old GLX files and afterwards installing the new nvidia GLX rpm . Also don't forget to change some setting in your XF86Config-4 (see nvidia docs). hello, tried to install some new nvid drivers for man 8.2, went to nvidia, matched the kernel and glx (3XXX) versions. the kernel installed fine, but the glx didn't want to. used the '-e' option outlined in the nvid read me and it installed but now X won't start at boot up! since i'm no expert on the console, i'm in trouble deep. any way to get myself out of this mess that isn't too complicated? any help would be appreciated. thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie-it] nvidia geforce4
gkep wrote: ciao da pinguino Mandrake 9.0, ho un problema con la scheda video Geforce4 MX 420 qualcuno e' riuscito ad installarla correttamente e poi a giocare a tuxracer o cose del genere? Sul sito nvidia.it ci sono oltre ai drivers anche le istruzioni, ma ricordo che i drivers per mdk avevano qualche riga di codice sbagliata, e cmq quando installo (con vari avvisi di librerie mancanti e cose del genere che nelle istruzioni all'appendice C non ho capito come e dove prenderle...) i GLX non si avvia nemmeno l'interfaccia grafica La versione di XFree86 e' la 4.2.1 I dati sull'hardware riportati in centro di controllo Mandrake 9.0 sono questi: Vendor: nVidia Corporation Bus: PCI Identificazione bus: 10de:172 Location on the bus: 1:0:0 Descrizione: NV17 GeForce4 MX 420 Modulo: Card:NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic) Media class: DISPLAY_VGA Con la mdk 8.2 era la stessa cosa... Qualche idea? ciao. Allora , vediamo se riesco a scrivere tutto : Vai sul sito di Nvidia e scaricati i dirvers sorgenti SRC in formato rpm file:/mnt/windows/NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123.src.rpm file:/mnt/windows/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-3123.src.rpm questi sono i miei :)) poi apri una shell diventi root con su e password e digiti : rpm --rebuild .../percorso/file kernelxxx.xxx.xx src.rpm rpm --rebuild .../percorso/file kernelxxx.xxx.xx src.rpm a questo punto dovrebbero , se tutto è andato per il verso giusto, essersi creati i tuoi rpm compilati che puoi andare a pescare in file:/usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586/NVkernel..xx etc file:/usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586/NV.GLX.xxx.rpm etc.. ok? benone adesso devi settare l'init della tua linux box in modo che non avvii il server X io a volte semplicemente vado in mandrake control center / avvio /configurazione avvioe setto non avviare il server X. a questo punto riavvii e si dovrebbe fermare al prompt di login ti loggi come utente e poi fai un su o direttamente come root e digiti vim ( che è un potente editor di testo ) vim /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ora stai editando il file e devi cercare la riga driver che modifichi premendo i ( insert) la modifichi da nv in nvidia ora con le passate versioni si doveva anche modificare i moduli glx ma ho visto che con la mandrake 9 quella riga aveva già il load glx a questo punto premi :wqche serve per salvare ed uscire dal programma vim. sei pronto per uno startx che se tutto è andato a buon fine dovrebbe far partire il KDE preceduto da una bella immagine col logo nvidia .. sono qui buona fortuna francesco
Re: [newbie-it] nvidia geforce4
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:28:55 +0200 francesco.melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Allora , vediamo se riesco a scrivere tutto : Vai sul sito di Nvidia e scaricati i dirvers sorgenti SRC in formato rpm a questo punto dovrebbero , se tutto è andato per il verso giusto, essersi creati i tuoi rpm compilati che puoi andare a pescare in ok? benone adesso devi settare l'init della tua linux box in modo che non avvii il server X io a volte semplicemente vado in mandrake control center / avvio /configurazione avvioe setto non avviare il server X. a questo punto riavvii e si dovrebbe fermare al prompt di login ti loggi come utente e poi fai un su o direttamente come root e digiti vim ( che è un potente editor di testo ) vim /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Qui mi sembra che hai complicato la vita: :-) Il reboot in Linux non è (quasi) mai necessario ;-) Io faccio: - compilazione e installazione dei server nvidia - modifiche con un qualunque editor del file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 - control-alt-backspace per riavviare il server X (fa anche logout) - login - tuxrace :-)) Se proprio non vuoi avere X attivo mentre smanetti su XF86Config (cosa che potresti fare tranquillamente: X lo legge solo quando parte), puoi dare come root init 3. Ti porta il sistema in modalità console. Poi init 5 per tornare in modalità grafica. ciao, Andrea
Re: [newbie-it] nvidia geforce4
Andrea Celli wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:28:55 +0200 francesco.melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Allora , vediamo se riesco a scrivere tutto : Vai sul sito di Nvidia e scaricati i dirvers sorgenti SRC in formato rpm a questo punto dovrebbero , se tutto è andato per il verso giusto, essersi creati i tuoi rpm compilati che puoi andare a pescare in ok? benone adesso devi settare l'init della tua linux box in modo che non avvii il server X io a volte semplicemente vado in mandrake control center / avvio /configurazione avvioe setto non avviare il server X. a questo punto riavvii e si dovrebbe fermare al prompt di login ti loggi come utente e poi fai un su o direttamente come root e digiti vim ( che è un potente editor di testo ) vim /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Qui mi sembra che hai complicato la vita: :-) Il reboot in Linux non è (quasi) mai necessario ;-) Io faccio: - compilazione e installazione dei server nvidia - modifiche con un qualunque editor del file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 - control-alt-backspace per riavviare il server X (fa anche logout) - login - tuxrace :-)) Se proprio non vuoi avere X attivo mentre smanetti su XF86Config (cosa che potresti fare tranquillamente: X lo legge solo quando parte), puoi dare come root init 3. Ti porta il sistema in modalità console. Poi init 5 per tornare in modalità grafica. ciao, Andrea anche io faccio tutto a caldo senza riavviare, ma ho pensato fosse meglio scrivere la procedura più ortodossa senza forzare la chiusura di X . : francesco
Re: [newbie-it] nvidia geforce4
.. Qui mi sembra che hai complicato la vita: :-) Il reboot in Linux non è (quasi) mai necessario ;-) anche io faccio tutto a caldo senza riavviare, ma ho pensato fosse meglio scrivere la procedura più ortodossa senza forzare la chiusura di X . : Più che più ortodossa, mi sembra più windozziana, :))) Diciamo che l'importante è riavviare il server X dopo le modifiche. Abbiamo elencato tre modi di farlo. Probabilmente ce ne sono un'altra decina :-) Per esempio, fai le modifiche, dai logout e dal menu per la scelta degli utenti dai riavvia server X Oppure, spegni, vai a dormire e domani, quando riaccendi, ti trovi il driver Nvidia funzionante :-) ciao, andrea
Re: [newbie] Is nVidia mobo chipset supported?
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:27:37 +0200 Joan Tur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo! I'm planning purchasing one of theese mobos, 1 of What MOBOs ?? You did not list any. Charles -- Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another -- Murphy's Laws on Sex n°58 -- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is nVidia mobo chipset supported?
June 10, 2002 01:19 pm, Joan Tur wrote: That has helped. Thanks ;) ~ Any time! Just a stab at reciprocating for the Mozilla1 advice that I still haven't had a chance to implement. :-) Later; ~~ Es Dilluns 10 Juny 2002 18:44, en Charlie va escriure: June 10, 2002 09:27 am, Joan Tur wrote: Hallo! I'm planning purchasing one of theese mobos, and I'd like to know if it is well supported under Linux. It's got 10/100, video and audio built in. Thanks in advance !! ;) ~~ Two years old (almost) but this article from Tom's Hardware may help you Joan. http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/00q3/000811/linux_geforce-03.html This one gets specific on the ASUSTek A7N 266 board (SuSE 7.3 but if they can do it...:-)) http://www.linuxtested.com/results/asus_a7n266.html Finally from the horse's mouth: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/hardware.php3 Good luck Joan! ~~ -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org The computing field is always in need of new cliches. -- Alan Perlis Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2
Lots of people can try to help you, but we need more information. What hardware do you have? video card, monitor, motherboard etc What do you mean by 'freezing? How do you know it's a video card problem? What are you doing when it happens? If you are getting random system freezes my first instinct would be a memory problem. You are not overclocking or using 'aggressive' memory settings are you? Do not be afraid to give too much info. It is better than too little. derek On Saturday 08 June 2002 4:02 am, Rainer wrote: - Original Message - From: Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:52 PM Subject: nvidia and man 8.2 hello, i'm relatively new to linux and just bought a standard 8.2 box. i was extremely surprised when my monitor continuely froze, since my nvidia geforce graphic's card worked fine on 8.1. i was told at mandrake experts to download the latest drivers, which i did, but unfortuanately there were none for i686 architecture (i was told to install the i586). my monitor is still freezing. does anyone here have a solution for this problem, thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Fw: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2
- Original Message - From: Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2 sorry, i filled my profile for mandrake experts and totally forgot to include it here; -qdi advance 10e mobo -viewsonic 70e monitor -512 mbs ram -nvidia geforce2 mx/mx 400 -intel pentium 3 797mhz everything works great on my windows partition so. i'm assuming it's a linux thing. usually while manipulating a window, i.e. minimizing, restoring the screen locks. i may or may not be able to still move the mouse but i can't do anything to the windows that are up or access the command line. which forces me to manually reboot. this happens about every 10 minutes. n.b. no funky overclocking etc, i assume linux is managing my memory, like i said it's running great on the o/s everybody loves to hate. thanks - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 3:08 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2 Lots of people can try to help you, but we need more information. What hardware do you have? video card, monitor, motherboard etc What do you mean by 'freezing? How do you know it's a video card problem? What are you doing when it happens? If you are getting random system freezes my first instinct would be a memory problem. You are not overclocking or using 'aggressive' memory settings are you? Do not be afraid to give too much info. It is better than too little. derek On Saturday 08 June 2002 4:02 am, Rainer wrote: - Original Message - From: Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:52 PM Subject: nvidia and man 8.2 hello, i'm relatively new to linux and just bought a standard 8.2 box. i was extremely surprised when my monitor continuely froze, since my nvidia geforce graphic's card worked fine on 8.1. i was told at mandrake experts to download the latest drivers, which i did, but unfortuanately there were none for i686 architecture (i was told to install the i586). my monitor is still freezing. does anyone here have a solution for this problem, thanks -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fw: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2
Well I see nothing in your description to indicate it is a video card problem. The Geforce2MX is one of the most common cards around and is known to work in Linux with either the proprietary 'nvidia' driver or the Opensource 'nv' driver. Do not worry about 'i686' RPMs. Your P3 is able to run i686,i586,i486,or i386 optimised code. I would still be suspicious of your hardware. You would be surprised how often we get mails like this in which the user says It works fine in Windows, and then it turns out there is a hardware fault. This is especially true of memory. For some reason Windows seems to be very tolerant of bad memory. I would suggest 1/ Taking out your memory modules (if you are sufficiently technically competent) and cleaning the contacts with a pencil rubber (or eraser depending on which country you live in) Ensure your BIOS is using the correct memory timings for your memory chips. 2/ Make a memtest86 boot floppy and test the memory thoroughly as described in this post http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg94190.html 3/ Another reason could be an IRQ conflict between two devices in your computer. If you have any components you can remove such as Ethernet adapters try taking them out for a while and see if the freeezes go away. If you do have an IRQ problem we can show you how to fix it. 4/ If you do get a freeze. Try to avoid hitting that reset button. You hopefully selected a journalised filesystem when you installed Linux such as Ext3, XFS, or ReiserFS which are much more tolerent of resets than the old Ext2 system. But all the same the 'graceful' way to kill the system is Alt+Sysreq+r Alt+Sysreq+s Alt+Sysreq+e Alt+Sysreq+b HTH derek sorry, i filled my profile for mandrake experts and totally forgot to include it here; -qdi advance 10e mobo -viewsonic 70e monitor -512 mbs ram -nvidia geforce2 mx/mx 400 -intel pentium 3 797mhz everything works great on my windows partition so. i'm assuming it's a linux thing. usually while manipulating a window, i.e. minimizing, restoring the screen locks. i may or may not be able to still move the mouse but i can't do anything to the windows that are up or access the command line. which forces me to manually reboot. this happens about every 10 minutes. n.b. no funky overclocking etc, i assume linux is managing my memory, like i said it's running great on the o/s everybody loves to hate. thanks - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 3:08 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2 Lots of people can try to help you, but we need more information. What hardware do you have? video card, monitor, motherboard etc What do you mean by 'freezing? How do you know it's a video card problem? What are you doing when it happens? If you are getting random system freezes my first instinct would be a memory problem. You are not overclocking or using 'aggressive' memory settings are you? Do not be afraid to give too much info. It is better than too little. derek On Saturday 08 June 2002 4:02 am, Rainer wrote: - Original Message - From: Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:52 PM Subject: nvidia and man 8.2 hello, i'm relatively new to linux and just bought a standard 8.2 box. i was extremely surprised when my monitor continuely froze, since my nvidia geforce graphic's card worked fine on 8.1. i was told at mandrake experts to download the latest drivers, which i did, but unfortuanately there were none for i686 architecture (i was told to install the i586). my monitor is still freezing. does anyone here have a solution for this problem, thanks - - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fw: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2
Rainer wrote: - Original Message - From: Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2 sorry, i filled my profile for mandrake experts and totally forgot to include it here; -qdi advance 10e mobo -viewsonic 70e monitor -512 mbs ram -nvidia geforce2 mx/mx 400 -intel pentium 3 797mhz everything works great on my windows partition so. i'm assuming it's a linux thing. usually while manipulating a window, i.e. minimizing, restoring the screen locks. i may or may not be able to still move the mouse but i can't do anything to the windows that are up or access the command line. which forces me to manually reboot. this happens about every 10 minutes. n.b. no funky overclocking etc, i assume linux is managing my memory, like i said it's running great on the o/s everybody loves to hate. thanks - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 3:08 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2 Lots of people can try to help you, but we need more information. What hardware do you have? video card, monitor, motherboard etc What do you mean by 'freezing? How do you know it's a video card problem? What are you doing when it happens? If you are getting random system freezes my first instinct would be a memory problem. You are not overclocking or using 'aggressive' memory settings are you? Do not be afraid to give too much info. It is better than too little. derek On Saturday 08 June 2002 4:02 am, Rainer wrote: - Original Message - From: Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:52 PM Subject: nvidia and man 8.2 hello, i'm relatively new to linux and just bought a standard 8.2 box. i was extremely surprised when my monitor continuely froze, since my nvidia geforce graphic's card worked fine on 8.1. i was told at mandrake experts to download the latest drivers, which i did, but unfortuanately there were none for i686 architecture (i was told to install the i586). my monitor is still freezing. does anyone here have a solution for this problem, It seems to be the same problem as I had some time back and posted here. The glitch, whatever it is, is in the kernel. My solution (well, workaround) was to reinstall Mandrake 8.0, then do an upgrade packages only upgrade to 8.2, then boot from my old kernel. A more elegant (though still not entirely satisfying) approach would be to install your old kernel in addition to the new one (haven't tried it, but it ought to work for downgrades just like it does for upgrades). Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2
- Original Message - From: Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:52 PM Subject: nvidia and man 8.2 hello, i'm relatively new to linux and just bought a standard 8.2 box. i was extremely surprised when my monitor continuely froze, since my nvidia geforce graphic's card worked fine on 8.1. i was told at mandrake experts to download the latest drivers, which i did, but unfortuanately there were none for i686 architecture (i was told to install the i586). my monitor is still freezing. does anyone here have a solution for this problem, thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Latest Nvidia drivers
I just downloaded and installed the latest nvidia drivers, but im still having problems loading up glx on my computer. Anyone had any similar problems with nvidia drivers? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Latest Nvidia drivers
On Tuesday 28 May 2002 4:18 pm, Tim Ford wrote: I just downloaded and installed the latest nvidia drivers, but im still having problems loading up glx on my computer. Anyone had any similar problems with nvidia drivers? A few thoughts for you to check out:- Look in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions if you have a file called libGLcore.a then rename it or else GLX will not load correctly. I assume you have edited /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 correctly ? InsertLoad glx in the Modules section EditDriver nvidia in the Graphics section You do have Xfree 4.x enabled do you? Xfree3.x is not going to work. Try running glxinfo in a terminal. If you get pages of output then glx is working. Look in /var/log/XFree86.0.log for errors when loading X post the errors here if you do not understand what they mean. HTH derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Latest Nvidia drivers
Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 28 May 2002 4:18 pm, Tim Ford wrote: I just downloaded and installed the latest nvidia drivers, but im still having problems loading up glx on my computer. Anyone had any similar problems with nvidia drivers? A few thoughts for you to check out:- Look in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions if you have a file called libGLcore.a then rename it or else GLX will not load correctly. I assume you have edited /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 correctly ? InsertLoad glx in the Modules section EditDriver nvidia in the Graphics section You do have Xfree 4.x enabled do you? Xfree3.x is not going to work. Try running glxinfo in a terminal. If you get pages of output then glx is working. Look in /var/log/XFree86.0.log for errors when loading X post the errors here if you do not understand what they mean. HTH derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I had previously put in load glx' into that config file, but hadn't changed the driver name. One other thing i noticed that in my extension i don't have a libglcore at all, but i do have a libglx.so What puzzles me is that it has the extension .so which makes it a executable binary, instead of being an archive (.a). is that correct and am i wrong? and when running glxinfo - xlib: extension glx missing on display :0.0 comes up multiple times. anyway, im restarting x, and hoping for the best. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] NEW Nvidia RPM's Released for LM82
Newbie listers...get your new NVIDIA RPM's here! Version 2880 for LM82 -- http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=linux Have phun... LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° ¡.a¨h gÊ«~·É¨h¡Êi×kz˶m§ÿæj)rj(r Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Any nVidia TNT Users?
Hello, I was just wondering if anyone else is using Mandrake Linux 8.1 with an nVidia TNT (16meg if it matters) AGP card. What I'm wondering is if there is any point in installing the later (20- series) drivers. I installed the 1541 [NOTE: On a previous Linux install - NOT CURRENTLY ON MY SYSTEM] drivers and they did work to the extent that I could play TuxRacer, look at Mesa gears/morph/reflect. Silly me was still having lockups, I thought at the time it was the video since it was locking up during graphics. It turned out to be my soundcard, but I didn't know at the time and reinstalled Linux to wipe the 1541 drivers. I am wondering if my card is even able to take advantage of the extra features in the 20- series - as in the 2313/2314 drivers. I know that it supports GL1.3 instead of just 1.2. But I don't know what the difference is. Will that let me run more programs? I would like to stay as current as possible on the graphics specification (the GL part?) for the inevitible time when nVidia drops the TNT's from their Unified Driver Architecture and I can no longer get updates. Looking for someone else with my type of card to discuss this with. Wondering if you noticed any differences (good or bad) when you went to the 2313/2314 drivers. I know some with newer cards have noticed more fps. BTW, I saw people talking about their fps in Mesa Gears(?) how do you tell this? I would like to be optimistic and prepare for the someday when I get 3d again. Thanks, Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Any nVidia TNT Users?
My apologies, I forgot to sign my last post. -- Wes Gregg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 252649 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Any nVidia TNT Users?
On Monday 31 December 2001 05:53 am, you wrote: Silly me was still having lockups, I thought at the time it was the video since it was locking up during graphics. It turned out to be my soundcard, but I didn't know at the time and reinstalled Linux to wipe the 1541 drivers. Here's another reference for you. It's kinda long and detailed, but you might want to check it out. http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-hw2.html?dwzone=linux I am wondering if my card is even able to take advantage of the extra features in the 20- series - as in the 2313/2314 drivers. I know that it supports GL1.3 instead of just 1.2. But I don't know what the difference is. Will that let me run more programs? I would like to stay as current as possible on the graphics specification (the GL part?) for the inevitible time when nVidia drops the TNT's from their Unified Driver Architecture and I can no longer get updates. Well, it won't be too soon. Their drivers work with all their cards (except for the early riva128s such). BTW, I saw people talking about their fps in Mesa Gears(?) how do you tell this? I would like to be optimistic and prepare for the someday when I get 3d again. start it from a terminal, and the fps will display. -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: [nVidia on Mandrake]
On Thursday 27 December 2001 05:59 pm, you wrote: I agree. I have an Athlon 1GHz and I've given up trying to use nvidia's drivers. I too have noticed that there seem to be a lot of problems with AMD cpus and nvidia drivers. Because I have 1152MB RAM I use Mandrake's enterprise kernels. The 1541 nvidia drivers for 2.4.8-26mdkenterprise (from muo a couple of months back) work fine with that kernel, however supermount is not supported. Thus I also have 2.4.16.3mdk-1-1mdkenterprise installed (supermount works) but have been unsuccessful with any of the nvidia drivers so I'm using XFree86-3.3.6-23 without 3D accel for this kernel. I have read several references that stated we need to only use a (BEEFY) AMD-approved power supply. Especially with the faster/newer AMDs and video cards as they draw lots of wattage. Also with more ram, bigger/faster spinning drives, extra pci cards. I don't _seem_ to have any ps-related problems, but I only have a cheap 16meg TNT agp card and one pci card (cheap sound) and one isa card (my usr sportster 33.6 voice modem since my 56k pci modem uses Conexant's HCF drivers. They say on their website they will have Linux drivers for it by the end of the year but looks at calendar and shakes head...). I assume you've been through the nVidia drivers with a fine-toothed card. I also assume if it is an Abit mobo you have tried turning off AGP to see if that takes care of it. Read a reference that some of their older mobos wouldn't work properly with AGP - that they discovered this while developing their own nVidia-based video cards. Apparently it has something to do with power, as they say there are a handful of power supplies that overcome this problem (somehow). I've tried 1541, 2313 and 2314 with rpms, source rpms and compiling from the tarballs to no avail. I also compiled 7 different kernels myself and tried each driver with each kernel before I realised I was wasting my time. Ouch! The strange thing is that with most nvidia driver installs it all worked just fine and dandy (gears, tuxracer, tuxkart, etc) until I restarted X or rebooted then I started getting segmentation faults all over the place. Hey. I think I read something about this situation on (possibly) nVidia's linux forum. Could have been Mandrake User forum. It might have something to do with that depmod a command, but I don't think so (my memory is faultier than my computer's). To make matters worse, it appears that my monitor - Philips 107S - causes problems so I'm using a generic multisync monitor driver. The Philips drivers that come with LM work but there are errors/problems. I bought my monitor in 1994 - all I can use are the generic drivers. Which brings to mind something I've been wondering about since my first install at the first of the month: Does anyone know the difference between Generic SVGA and Generic Extended SVGA or whatever it is in the Generic Monitor section? So until I find a kernel that supports supermount and the nvidia drivers work with it, I'll have to boot between these two kernels. Not that I'm complaining... ; ) I hope you get it all worked out before you get tired of trying. Another question: My box (Mandrake Linux 8.1 Powerpack) says I have kernels 2.4.8 and 2.2.19. But when I installed (over and over) I never saw a place for choosing kernels. It seems I have 2.4.8.26 installed automatically? skinky I'll just have to take your word on that one! 8-P Later, Wes Gregg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 252649 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: [nVidia on Mandrake]
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 08:23:37AM -0500, Wes Gregg wrote: snip I hope you get it all worked out before you get tired of trying. Another question: My box (Mandrake Linux 8.1 Powerpack) says I have kernels 2.4.8 and 2.2.19. But when I installed (over and over) I never saw a place for choosing kernels. It seems I have 2.4.8.26 installed automatically? I think Civilme alluded to the fact recently that one needs to boot from the cd [#2?] that has those kernels. Search the past few days for complete instructions from him. -- Cheers, Stephen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: [nVidia on Mandrake]
On Saturday 29 December 2001 02:23, Wes Gregg wrote: | I have read several references that stated we need to only use a | (BEEFY) AMD-approved power supply. Especially with the faster/newer | AMDs and video cards as they draw lots of wattage. Also with more ram, | bigger/faster spinning drives, extra pci cards. I've learned so much more about hardware since I started using linux! (about 6 months). Trouble is, I bought most of my current hardware when I was still using windoze. I'm not sure what the power supply is (too lazy to pull the covers off) - I just asked for a good/suitable 350W (IRC) power supply. Jeez, I thought I bought decent hardware at the time but it seems that almost my entire system is crap. mobo: Soltek SL-75KAV w KT133A Northbridge and 686B Southbridge chipset - thankfully Mandrake have provided workarounds. cpu: AMD 1GHz - known AMD probs monitor: Philips 107S - driver probs. hd: IBM Deskstar DTLA 307060 60GB - known problems (something about not lasting all that long from someone in NZLUG). hd: Quantum Bigfoot CY6480A 6.4GB - no probs cdrw: HP 9310i which supposedly die after x # of burns. graphics: nVidia geforce GTS2 Pro 64MB - driver probs for 3D accel but thats a closed source prob. sound: Creative SB Live! 5.1 - centre speaker doesn't work (not even properly in windoze!) printer: HP Deskjet 670C - printing looks pretty crappy - not crisp. floppy: old? - no probs cdrom: Matsushita - no probs modem: Swann Speed Demon 56K external serial - no probs Sounds like I'm bleating - but I'm not, I think linux is awesome. And I think Mandrake are doing a fine job! When I get another pc, I will choose the components VERY carefully but I guess its the same old story, if the manufacturers don't co-operate with open source then linux developers still do the best they can. I think they're amazing with what has been achieved so far. | I don't _seem_ to have | any ps-related problems, but I only have a cheap 16meg TNT agp card and | one pci card (cheap sound) and one isa card (my usr sportster 33.6 voice | modem since my 56k pci modem uses Conexant's HCF drivers. They say on | their website they will have Linux drivers for it by the end of the year | but looks at calendar and shakes head...). Yeah, I had a 56K pci Conexant modem which I yanked out and replaced with an external serial modem. Can't even give the Conexant modem away (to windoze users) as it only works on cpus = 500MHz and everyone I know have approx 200MHz cpus. | I assume you've been through the nVidia drivers with a fine-toothed | card. I also assume if it is an Abit mobo you have tried turning off | AGP to see if that takes care of it. Read a reference that some of | their older mobos wouldn't work properly with AGP - that they discovered | this while developing their own nVidia-based video cards. Apparently it | has something to do with power, as they say there are a handful of power | supplies that overcome this problem (somehow). I tried turning off AGP in bios. I tried turning video shadowing and caching on/off in bios also, to no avail. I updated the bios a few months back. | Hey. I think I read something about this situation on (possibly) | nVidia's linux forum. Could have been Mandrake User forum. It might | have something to do with that depmod a command, but I don't think so | (my memory is faultier than my computer's). I tried the depmod -a command and rebooting each time after installing the nvidia drivers : ( | I bought my monitor in 1994 - all I can use are the generic drivers. | Which brings to mind something I've been wondering about since my first | install at the first of the month: | | Does anyone know the difference between Generic SVGA and Generic | Extended SVGA or whatever it is in the Generic Monitor section? Sorry, can't help you there. I wouldn't have a clue but now you've got me curious so I'll try to find out what I can. | I hope you get it all worked out before you get tired of trying. | Another question: My box (Mandrake Linux 8.1 Powerpack) says I have | kernels 2.4.8 and 2.2.19. But when I installed (over and over) I never | saw a place for choosing kernels. It seems I have 2.4.8.26 installed | automatically? During installation the enterprise kernel was automatically installed for me (2.4.8-26mdkenterprise) - obviously because of the amount of ram. But you can download another kernel and install it alongside your current kernel (rpm -ivh kernel 2.4.x-xxmdk.i586.rpm) until you are happy that everything is OK then remove your old kernel. It really isn't difficult at all but there are a few other things to do other than just installing the new kernel. If you need more info on this just post to the list or email me directly. Actually there was a lot of discussion and very helpful information (from Tom Brinkman and others) a little while back so its in the mailing list archives as
[newbie] Re: [nVidia on Mandrake]
1)Yes you are using the right Kernel. The OS is listed as a 586 because Mandrake by default loads a 'safe' Pentium/AMD/mmx kernel. You can make your own kernel with the simple GUI tools built into Mandrake, but This is as I thought... But that would be the first thing I've gotten right in a month of trying. compiling an AMD Athlon specific kernel has been known to cause problems. I've also been seeing hints that the Athlons (rather the mobos they go in) might not be the best for an install and forget it Linux. SIGH This is NOT a Linux problem. Some motherboard makers skimp here and there As I've noticed myself. I've actually cured a lot of my ills by upgrading the bios on my KA7 to current. which can cause 'noise' problems. Feel free to experiment, but I would stick with the default kernel for now. My wife saw that and told me I've done more than enough experimenting on this desktop. She has been waiting since 12/02/01 to actually use Linux. 2) Your X_Free version is fine. Good. Reassuring. Thanks. 3) You need to download these files: NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.tar.gz AND NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.i386.rpm. You do not need the source file. You can also download the Mandrake RPM files, but I have found that doing a 'make' using the above files has worked better for me. What about 2314? It is only avail in source, but has been up for a while now I think. I actually have the following files on my system (some in Linux since I've reinstalled, and some I actually thought to download in Windows partition - they may not be the right ones though) in no particular order: NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.i386.rpm NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2313.mdk81up.i686.rpm NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2314.src.rpm NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2314.tar.gz NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.src.rpm NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.tar.gz Follow the directions on page 22 of the nVidia instruction PDF to install the drivers. I think this is where I got so very confused. I have these files in a directory (/home/wes/NVIDIAfiles) but I can move them to another directory if I need to. Then follow the instructions on the PDF on pages 22-23 to edit the X-Free config file. I remember (more or less) doing the config editing when I did the 1541 drivers in a previouse Mandrake install (all the installs I've done this month are really running together. Just an aside, I ran Windows 3.1 for 7 years with no reinstall. Lucky I guess. Being to simple to run most virus programs probbably saved my butt there though. The latest nVidia driver version is 1.0-2313. I haven't tried it yet as I have been out of town for the past 3 months. It is probably ok. I haven't heard of any problems with it. I've nosed around on nVidia's Linux (etc) forums, lots of people having lots of trouble with all of them. I guess a lot of the people are like me (ie, most problems are operator error) but still some seem knowledgable. I think some of the settings in the newer versions have to be tweaked for the nicer/newer cards. Plus like you mentioned, AMD their mobo's have issues with this OS. I am getting the idea that that is causing a lot of the nVidia drivers' problems (for people running single or multi AMD cpus that is). Of course _I_ have an AMD cpu (the old model 650 mHz Athlon). I am remaining cautiously optimistic. I've thought about going back to the 1541's but I can't recall how I installed them and some have issues with them as well. I thought I'd try the newer ones first. Feel free to e-mail me if you have any additional questions. Done and done. I sure hope you don't come to regret saying that. But thanks in any case, Wes Gregg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 252649 Lost With No 3d/accelerated gfx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] another nvidia question
hi! i got the nvidia drivers running here, but on the console it says that it was unable turn on agp - how do i activate agp? take care, -- , (o o) +oOOO--(_)---+ || | H E L L M U T | || +---0OOO-+ | _ | _ | | | | | | | | | ooO Ooo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie-it] nvidia driver
18:53, venerdì 20 luglio 2001, bellotti: Grazie del tuo consiglio sono riuscito ad installare i driver nvidia e adesso all'avvio di X mi appare il logo di nvidia. Anch'io infine sono riuscito a installare i driver nvidia. anche a me all'avvio di X mi appare il logo di nvidia. Ho provato a far partire Tux Racer che però mi segnala: Xlib: extension GLX missing on display :0.0. *** tuxracer error: Couldn't initialize video: Couldn't find matching GLX visual (Success) cosa mi manca? ciao e grazie a tutti, Tommaso
