[newbie] New Kernel installation.

2005-04-06 Per discussione Gonzalo Mdk
Hi all, i'm new to this list (I usually use the expert) because i
think this Q doesn't qualify for the expert list.
I have a laptop (doesn't have a brand, is assembled in a place here in
Chile) that has ACPI support, but when i recompile the kernel with
acpi support (i have 2.6.3-7mdk-i686-up-4GB) it doesnt work. (gives me
the following line:

No ACPI support in kernel, or incorrect acpi_path (/proc/acpi).

So i want to know where can i download a kernel that is for mandrake,
like, is there a place for downloading the kernel 2.6.11mdk (or
something like that), the newest version, so i can use the WIFI also.
Hope you can give me some directions 
Salu2
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Re: [newbie] New Kernel installation.

2005-04-06 Per discussione Stephen Kühn
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 01:10, Gonzalo Mdk wrote:
 Hi all, i'm new to this list (I usually use the expert) because i
 think this Q doesn't qualify for the expert list.
 I have a laptop (doesn't have a brand, is assembled in a place here in
 Chile) that has ACPI support, but when i recompile the kernel with
 acpi support (i have 2.6.3-7mdk-i686-up-4GB) it doesnt work. (gives me
 the following line:
 
 No ACPI support in kernel, or incorrect acpi_path (/proc/acpi).
 
 So i want to know where can i download a kernel that is for mandrake,
 like, is there a place for downloading the kernel 2.6.11mdk (or
 something like that), the newest version, so i can use the WIFI also.
 Hope you can give me some directions 
 Salu2
 Gonzalo Avaria

ftp://ftp.pbone.net/mirror/carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrakelinux/official/10.0/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-source-2.6.3-7mdk.i586.rpm

If you download/install the sources, you should be able to recompile the
kernel without much hassle.
HTH.

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Re: [newbie] New Kernel installation.

2005-04-06 Per discussione Tom
Gonzalo Mdk wrote:
Hi all, i'm new to this list (I usually use the expert) because i
think this Q doesn't qualify for the expert list.
   Actually it does, but you'll probly get better answers here, an 
less nags to add to the(ir) community twiki ;)

I have a laptop (doesn't have a brand, is assembled in a place here in
Chile) that has ACPI support,
It might be non-standard compliant Windo$e ACPI. Even if runnin
 tom # dmidecode | grep -i acpi
Version: ASUS A7V600 ACPI BIOS Revision 1005
ACPI is supported
   says it is. That's a direct reading from the system bios' 
firmware. Unfortunately most hardware is designed for Win$ux ;(

 but when i recompile the kernel with
acpi support (i have 2.6.3-7mdk-i686-up-4GB) it doesnt work. (gives me
the following line:
No ACPI support in kernel, or incorrect acpi_path (/proc/acpi).
tom # ll /proc/acpi
total 0
dr-xr-xr-x  2 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 ac_adapter/
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 alarm
dr-xr-xr-x  2 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 battery/
dr-xr-xr-x  3 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 button/
-r  1 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 dsdt
dr-xr-xr-x  2 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 embedded_controller/
-r  1 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 event
-r  1 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 fadt
dr-xr-xr-x  2 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 fan/
-r--r--r--  1 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 info
dr-xr-xr-x  2 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 power_resource/
dr-xr-xr-x  3 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 processor/
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 sleep
dr-xr-xr-x  2 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 thermal_zone/
dr-xr-xr-x  2 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 video/
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 wakeup
dr-xr-xr-x  2 root root 0 Apr  6 14:46 wmi/
So i want to know where can i download a kernel that is for mandrake,
like, is there a place for downloading the kernel 2.6.11mdk (or
something like that), the newest version, so i can use the WIFI also.
Hope you can give me some directions 
Salu2
Gonzalo Avaria
# ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support
#
CONFIG_ACPI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_FS=y
CONFIG_ACPI_AC=m
CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=m
CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=m
CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO=m
CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=m
CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=m
CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=m
CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS=m
CONFIG_ACPI_IBM=m
CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA=m
# CONFIG_ACPI_CUSTOM_DSDT is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_CUSTOM_DSDT_INITRD=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0
# CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y
CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_CONTAINER=m
CONFIG_ACPI_TC1100=m
   That's from a 'stock' /boot/config-2.6.11-6mdkK74g.  Well, OK 
it's not quite stock, I hand edited the .config (don't try that 
unless you know what you're doin. Use 'make xconfig') to enable K7 
opts, and enable preempt, an more than 880MB ram support.  None of 
the above ACPI options were changed.  The =y are built in, the =m 
are modules (mostly for laptops). As long as I can remember, ACPI 
support is built into the kernel, even 2.2.x. Note  CONFIG_ACPI=y 
There is no need to install anything or recompile Mandrake kernels 
to support ACPI (if the hardware truly does).

Yes 2.6.11 does have better wifi support, but I only judge that 
from documentation and other's reports, not experience (I don't use 
wifi).  You might try a cooker kernel and re-compile it on older 
systems.  Get,

ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586/media/main/kernel-source-2.6-2.6.11-6mdk.i586.rpm
  an don't forget to begin with 'make mrproper'. If you don't need 
to change the .config, then

Edit Makefile, an  change EXTRAVERSION = , an uncomment 
(enable) this line  export	INSTALL_PATH=/boot
Im my above example, for instance  I changed EXTRAVERSION to
   EXTRAVERSION = -6mdkK74g
to denote, K7, preempt, and  1 gig ram support differences from the 
'stock'  .config

 make oldconfig
 make
 make modules_install
 make install
 Also make sure you don't have ACPI disabled.  IOW's, there 
should be _no_ acpi statement in your boot parameters. Either lilo's 
append= line or in grub.  Every acpi statement except =force will 
disable ACPI, either partially or completely.  =on DNGN (does 
nothin, goes nowhere), ACPI is built into any Mandrake kernels as 
the default.  If you do have a statement like   acpi=ht   remove it 
an don't forget to run 'lilo'   You need not to make any changes to 
APM, as ACPI will overide it.  You should also see extended IRQ 
support (above 15) with ACPI enabled.   Give this a read,
 /usr/src/linux-2.6.11-6mdk/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
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Re: [ml] [newbie] Which kernel?

2005-04-05 Per discussione JR
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 01:38 am, Cameron MacDonald wrote:
 Now I feel even sillierI remembered uname but forgot the switch!!
For any command you dont know the switches for (but you do know the command), 
just type 'uname - -help'. Replacing 'uname' with whatever command is 
torturing you at that moment in time :)

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Re: [ml] [newbie] Which kernel?

2005-04-05 Per discussione Miark
 On Tuesday 05 April 2005 01:38 am, Cameron MacDonald wrote:

  Now I feel even sillierI remembered uname but forgot
  the switch!!

uname -a

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Re: [ml] [newbie] Which kernel?

2005-04-05 Per discussione Cameron MacDonald
JR wrote:
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 01:38 am, Cameron MacDonald wrote:
Now I feel even sillierI remembered uname but forgot the switch!!
For any command you dont know the switches for (but you do know the command), 
just type 'uname - -help'. Replacing 'uname' with whatever command is 
torturing you at that moment in time :)

Regards,
Jarlath
Thanks, Jarlath.  Yeah, I shoulda rmembered that. As I said the BBs 
were rolling around the noggin', not falling in the correct holes.

Tioriadh
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[newbie] Which kernel?

2005-04-04 Per discussione Cameron MacDonald
Hi  I feel really silly for asking this, but what command do I use 
to find out which kernel I'm using?  I know I've done it before, but 
I've got so many commands rolling around in my head like ball 
bearings , and I forget to add them to my list of Remember this!. 
 Thanks
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Re: [ml] [newbie] Which kernel?

2005-04-04 Per discussione Dave Ashmore
Cameron MacDonald wrote:
Hi  I feel really silly for asking this, but what command do I use to 
find out which kernel I'm using?  I know I've done it before, but I've 
got so many commands rolling around in my head like ball bearings , 
and I forget to add them to my list of Remember this!.  Thanks
Cam



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Re: [newbie] Which kernel?

2005-04-04 Per discussione Bryan Phinney
On Monday 04 April 2005 20:05, Cameron MacDonald wrote:
 Hi  I feel really silly for asking this, but what command do I use
 to find out which kernel I'm using?  I know I've done it before, but
 I've got so many commands rolling around in my head like ball
 bearings , and I forget to add them to my list of Remember this!.

uname -r from the command line.


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Re: [newbie] Which kernel?

2005-04-04 Per discussione mike
Cameron MacDonald wrote:
 Hi  I feel really silly for asking this, but what command do I use to
 find out which kernel I'm using?  I know I've done it before, but I've
 got so many commands rolling around in my head like ball bearings , and
 I forget to add them to my list of Remember this!.  Thanks
 Cam
 

uname -a



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Re: [ml] [newbie] Which kernel?

2005-04-04 Per discussione Cameron MacDonald
Dave Ashmore wrote:
Cameron MacDonald wrote:
Hi  I feel really silly for asking this, but what command do I use to 
find out which kernel I'm using?  I know I've done it before, but I've 
got so many commands rolling around in my head like ball bearings , 
and I forget to add them to my list of Remember this!.  Thanks
Cam



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uname -r
Thanks to all who replied!!
Now I feel even sillierI remembered uname but forgot the switch!!
Maybe that one will sink in now!
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Re: [newbie] Which Kernel For 10.1 ?

2005-03-24 Per discussione Mr. Geek
Pete Moscatt wrote:
Thanks Mr Geek (I like the name...),

Pete
Nice of you to notice. I got fed up with being called a 'Geek' all the 
time, so I decided to add the 'Mr' in the hopes it might make people 
respect me more.

Unfortunately, it hasn't helped much, but at least it brings a smile to 
a few faces now and then! Sigh. Besides, it's like they say,when 
you're this old, they call you Mister! Grin!

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Re: [newbie] Which Kernel For 10.1 ?

2005-03-24 Per discussione Margot
Mr. Geek wrote:
Pete Moscatt wrote:
Thanks Mr Geek (I like the name...),

Pete

Nice of you to notice. I got fed up with being called a 'Geek' all the 
time, so I decided to add the 'Mr' in the hopes it might make people 
respect me more.

Unfortunately, it hasn't helped much, but at least it brings a smile to 
a few faces now and then! Sigh. Besides, it's like they say,when 
you're this old, they call you Mister! Grin!

I like your real name better, though ;-)
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[newbie] Which Kernel For 10.1 ?

2005-03-23 Per discussione Peter Moscatt
I have recently installed MD 10.1 using the 3 download CDs.

I now would like to update the kernel and see in the Updates that there
are a number of options I can use.  I guess the version I want to update
is to 2.6 and see there a couple.

Which one do I need to go for ?

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Re: Re: [newbie] Which Kernel For 10.1 ?

2005-03-23 Per discussione Pete Moscatt
G'Day Fajar,

When I have a look, I see there are a number of 2.6.8.1-24 available, being ones
like ENTERPRISE, SECURE, SMP and there may even me a few more.

Now which one of these would I typically go for ?   :-)


Pete





 Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Wednesday 23 March 2005 15:35, Peter Moscatt wrote:
  I have recently installed MD 10.1 using the 3 download CDs.
 
  I now would like to update the kernel and see in the Updates that 
 there
  are a number of options I can use.  I guess the version I want to 
 update
  is to 2.6 and see there a couple.
 
  Which one do I need to go for ?
 
  Pete
 
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Re: Re: [newbie] Which Kernel For 10.1 ?

2005-03-23 Per discussione Pete Moscatt

Thanks Mr Geek (I like the name...),

No, I wasn't aware of that.  Thanks.  I will sort that out tonight.

Pete




 Mr. Geek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Fajar Priyanto wrote:
  On Wednesday 23 March 2005 15:35, Peter Moscatt wrote:
  
 I have recently installed MD 10.1 using the 3 download CDs.
 
 I now would like to update the kernel and see in the Updates that 
 there
 are a number of options I can use.  I guess the version I want to 
 update
 is to 2.6 and see there a couple.
 
 Which one do I need to go for ?
 
 Pete
  
  
  Mine is 2.6.8.1-24mdk
 
 Peter; Whichever kernel you go for, make sure you start by installing 
 the 'kernel-source' version of the new kernel you want to install 
 first.
 
 So, for example, if the kernel you want is kernel-2.6.8.1-24mdk, you 
 would start by installing kernel-source-2.6-2.6.8.1-24mdk, then you 
 would install your new kernel-2.6.8.1-24mdk, then run 'lilo -v', and 
 then reboot the system selecting the new kernel in the process.
 
 Once you're satisfired that the new kernel is working fine, either edit 
 
 your '/etc/lilo.conf' file manually or use the Boot Setup section of 
 Mandrake Control Center (MCC) to set the new kernel as your default 
 one.
 
 You can leave the old kernel installed, just in case, or you can remove 
 
 it via the Remove Software section of MCC.
 
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Re: [newbie] Which Kernel For 10.1 ?

2005-03-23 Per discussione Duncan Anderson
Pete Moscatt wrote:
When I have a look, I see there are a number of 2.6.8.1-24 available, being ones
like ENTERPRISE, SECURE, SMP and there may even me a few more.
Now which one of these would I typically go for ?   :-)
 

It depends what your requirements are. If you are running Mandrake at 
home on a desktop PC, then the standard version as loaded by default 
should be fine. However, should you have special requirements such as 
extra security, or optimisation for many users, or if you have a 
multiprocessor machine, then you would have a need for different versions.

SMP = Symmetrical Multi-Processing
Enterprise = Optimised for larger organisations
Secure = should be obvious, for firewall use, etc
Normally the standard port of the kernel as supplied by Mandrake is 
suitable for all of those uses, anyway, but each variant is tweaked 
for more applicability to those areas.

On some motherboards, the smp version works better(even if the mobo is 
single-processor).

cheers
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Re: [newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers

2005-02-21 Per discussione Melissa Allen
On Feb 20, 2005, at 11:47 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Melissa Allen wrote:
prerequisites for installation, I've discovered that I do not know 
what kernel source headers are.   [...]

Hugh Dixon wrote:

The kernel source can be installed using urpmi.  I think if you do a 
search for files named kernel-source they will appear in mcc [...]

An easy way to install the kernel source is to run urpmi $(uname -r).
urpmi install the package. uname -r produces the kernel name you are 
running.

Using $(commane) runs command and feads the output to into the 
command line just as if you had typed it.
Thanks to both Hugh and Mikkel for your help.  I found the correct 
kernel source on the CDs and installed it via the control center.  Then 
I tried urpmi $(uname -r) and received as output many files names 
containing the string kernel-2.6.8.1-12mdk.  Does this output suggest 
that everything that was needed was successfully installed, or is it a 
list of choices of what is available yet to be installed?

Also, once the package is indeed installed, how do I find/recognize the 
kernel source _headers_?

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RE: [newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers

2005-02-21 Per discussione Hugh Dixon
Melissa asked (paraphrased..)

   But where are the headers?
 

30 seconds, and I've already misfiled the original e-posting - D'Oh.
The linux source is installed by default into a directory
/usr/src/linux.  Under this there is a tree, that I am not overly
familiar with.  The question becomes which headers (also known as
'include files') do you want?

Have a look in /usr/src/linux and see if anything 'jumps out' as being
appropriate.

/usr/src/linux is a fairly standard path, so another application that
requires the headers may 'know' to look there, in which case you should
be OK, or may be happy being told the path is '/usr/src/linux'.  - This
I believe is how the nvidia drivers work, although I guess that's not
much use to you :)


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Re: [newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers

2005-02-21 Per discussione Mikkel L. Ellertson
Hugh Dixon wrote:
Melissa asked (paraphrased..)
 But where are the headers?

30 seconds, and I've already misfiled the original e-posting - D'Oh.
The linux source is installed by default into a directory
/usr/src/linux.  Under this there is a tree, that I am not overly
familiar with.  The question becomes which headers (also known as
'include files') do you want?
Have a look in /usr/src/linux and see if anything 'jumps out' as being
appropriate.
/usr/src/linux is a fairly standard path, so another application that
requires the headers may 'know' to look there, in which case you should
be OK, or may be happy being told the path is '/usr/src/linux'.  - This
I believe is how the nvidia drivers work, although I guess that's not
much use to you :)
Hugh
Yes, with the kernel source installed, /usr/src/linux is a symlink to 
the kernel source tree. It usualy works. If it doesn't like that, then 
try /usr/src/linux/include or /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386 - at least 
asm-i386 is what most people would be using...

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Re: [newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers

2005-02-21 Per discussione Melissa Allen
On Feb 21, 2005, at 7:50 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Hugh Dixon wrote:
Melissa asked (paraphrased..)
 But where are the headers?
30 seconds, and I've already misfiled the original e-posting - D'Oh.
The linux source is installed by default into a directory
/usr/src/linux.  Under this there is a tree, that I am not overly
familiar with.  The question becomes which headers (also known as
'include files') do you want?
Have a look in /usr/src/linux and see if anything 'jumps out' as being
appropriate.
/usr/src/linux is a fairly standard path, so another application that
requires the headers may 'know' to look there, in which case you 
should
be OK, or may be happy being told the path is '/usr/src/linux'.  - 
This
I believe is how the nvidia drivers work, although I guess that's not
much use to you :)
Hugh
Yes, with the kernel source installed, /usr/src/linux is a symlink to 
the kernel source tree. It usualy works. If it doesn't like that, then 
try /usr/src/linux/include or /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386 - at 
least asm-i386 is what most people would be using...
Again, thanks to both!  I think I found what I am looking for under 
/usr/src.  I'll give the installation a try tomorrow evening and report 
success or failure...

Best wishes,
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[newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers

2005-02-20 Per discussione Melissa Allen
On Feb 15, 2005, at 6:07 AM, Bryan Phinney wrote:
Never hurts to learn something.  Well mostly, anyway.  g
The only reason that I suggest external serial is that in a lot of 
cases, you
have to install a lot of developer tools to get a winmodem working and 
even
then, it is simply not as fast or good as an external serial.
First of all, a belated thank you to Bryan and the others who have 
weighed in on my modem problem.  I am beginning to see the wisdom of 
your advisement to buy an external serial modem.  If the conversion of 
a winmodem to a linmodem was a pain for you, it may be nigh 
impossible for me.g  Upon downloading the (free) driver for my 
particular SW modem and reading the prerequisites for installation, 
I've discovered that I do not know what kernel source headers are.  
My guess is that anybody who knows anything knows what these are and 
where to find them in the Mandrake 10.1 CDs, and that perhaps a person 
who is as ignorant as I has no business trying to do this installation. 
 Nevertheless, if one of you out there could help me find the kernel 
source headers, I would be most grateful.

Throw in the cost of the external serial models and you might want to 
get one
despite getting the winmodem to work, which is what I did.
...and is probably what I will end up doing as well, but I would really 
like to try to make this modem work, just so I can say that I did 
it...g

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RE: [newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers

2005-02-20 Per discussione Hugh Dixon


 -Original Message-
 From: Melissa Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, 21 February 2005 12:24 PM
 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
 Subject: [newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers
 
 
 On Feb 15, 2005, at 6:07 AM, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 
  Never hurts to learn something.  Well mostly, anyway.  g
 
  The only reason that I suggest external serial is that in a lot of
  cases, you
  have to install a lot of developer tools to get a winmodem 
 working and 
  even
  then, it is simply not as fast or good as an external serial.
 
 First of all, a belated thank you to Bryan and the others who have 
 weighed in on my modem problem.  I am beginning to see the wisdom of 
 your advisement to buy an external serial modem.  If the 
 conversion of 
 a winmodem to a linmodem was a pain for you, it may be nigh 
 impossible for me.g  Upon downloading the (free) driver for my 
 particular SW modem and reading the prerequisites for installation, 
 I've discovered that I do not know what kernel source headers are.  
 My guess is that anybody who knows anything knows what these are and 
 where to find them in the Mandrake 10.1 CDs, and that perhaps 
 a person 
 who is as ignorant as I has no business trying to do this 
 installation. 
   Nevertheless, if one of you out there could help me find 
 the kernel 
 source headers, I would be most grateful.
 
  Throw in the cost of the external serial models and you 
 might want to
  get one
  despite getting the winmodem to work, which is what I did.
 
 ...and is probably what I will end up doing as well, but I 
 would really 
 like to try to make this modem work, just so I can say that I did 
 it...g
 
 Thanks again,
 Melissa Allen
 


The kernel source can be installed using urpmi.  

I think if you do a search for files named kernel-source they will
appear in mcc (Have you found the software installer in mandrake control
centre?)

One problem you may have is that you need to know what kernel you are
running 2.4 or 2.6 and also the patch number.
This should be displayed when you boot the system, and in terminal
windows.  It will be something like 2.6.something with an mdk for
mandrake on the end.
The command uname run in a terminal will also display it for you.  - I
think it is uname -v but it may be uname -r, I cannot remember,
sorry!
Make sure you install the kernel source that matches the version you are
running!


HTH 
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Re: [newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers

2005-02-20 Per discussione Mikkel L. Ellertson
Hugh Dixon wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Melissa Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 21 February 2005 12:24 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: [newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers

On Feb 15, 2005, at 6:07 AM, Bryan Phinney wrote:

Never hurts to learn something.  Well mostly, anyway.  g
The only reason that I suggest external serial is that in a lot of
cases, you
have to install a lot of developer tools to get a winmodem 
working and 

even
then, it is simply not as fast or good as an external serial.
First of all, a belated thank you to Bryan and the others who have 
weighed in on my modem problem.  I am beginning to see the wisdom of 
your advisement to buy an external serial modem.  If the 
conversion of 
a winmodem to a linmodem was a pain for you, it may be nigh 
impossible for me.g  Upon downloading the (free) driver for my 
particular SW modem and reading the prerequisites for installation, 
I've discovered that I do not know what kernel source headers are.  
My guess is that anybody who knows anything knows what these are and 
where to find them in the Mandrake 10.1 CDs, and that perhaps 
a person 
who is as ignorant as I has no business trying to do this 
installation. 
 Nevertheless, if one of you out there could help me find 
the kernel 
source headers, I would be most grateful.


Throw in the cost of the external serial models and you 
might want to
get one
despite getting the winmodem to work, which is what I did.
...and is probably what I will end up doing as well, but I 
would really 
like to try to make this modem work, just so I can say that I did 
it...g

Thanks again,
Melissa Allen

The kernel source can be installed using urpmi.  

I think if you do a search for files named kernel-source they will
appear in mcc (Have you found the software installer in mandrake control
centre?)
One problem you may have is that you need to know what kernel you are
running 2.4 or 2.6 and also the patch number.
This should be displayed when you boot the system, and in terminal
windows.  It will be something like 2.6.something with an mdk for
mandrake on the end.
The command uname run in a terminal will also display it for you.  - I
think it is uname -v but it may be uname -r, I cannot remember,
sorry!
Make sure you install the kernel source that matches the version you are
running!
HTH 
Hugh

An easy way to install the kernel source is to run urpmi $(uname -r).
urpmi install the package. uname -r produces the kernel name you are 
running.

Using $(commane) runs command and feads the output to into the 
command line just as if you had typed it.

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Re: [newbie] Make kernel background graphic go away...

2005-01-14 Per discussione Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 14 January 2005 05:47, Dark Shadows wrote:
 I can change the loader picture...

 However, no matter what i can NOT get rid of the back ground
 picture behind the kernel on boot...???

 what is the deal?

You could try this .

As root, edit your /etc/lilo.conf  to
vga=792
save the file, run lilo as root. Logout. Reboot.

HTH
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[newbie] Make kernel background graphic go away...

2005-01-13 Per discussione Dark Shadows
I can change the loader picture...
However, no matter what i can NOT get rid of the back ground picture 
behind the kernel on boot...???

what is the deal?

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[newbie] installing kernel from rpm fails

2004-11-30 Per discussione Brenda O'Hagan
my apologies is this is a repeat -  i'm getting connection refused from  
http://archives.mandrakelinux.com

I need some help - today I was installing a new (older) kernel  - it all 
looked good until it failed at the end with these messages:
bootsplash not found in /boot/initrd-2.6.3-19mdk.img
lilo failed: Fatal: open /dev/sda: No such device or address
error: %post(kernel-2.6.3.19mdk-1-1mdk) scriptlet failed, exit status 1

bootsplash is installed (and working)
I don't understand why lilo's looking @ /dev/sda because that's my usb SD card 
reader/writer

I'm trying to install an older kernel than my current one (2.6.8.1-12mdk) 
because i'm having a few problems mounting flash cards, and i found this 
message in dmesg today:

nfs warning: mount version older than kernel


Here's the full output when i try to install a new kernel using urpmi:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]$ sudo urpmi --noclean kernel-2.6.3.19mdk
Password:


ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Mandrakelinux/devel/10.0/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-2.6.3.19mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kernel-2.6.3.19mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
Preparing...##
   1:kernel-2.6.3.19mdk ##
Looking for deps of module ide-mod
Looking for deps of module ide-probe-mod
Looking for deps of module ide-core
Looking for deps of module ide-disk
Looking for deps of module reiserfs
Using modules:  ./kernel/fs/reiserfs/reiserfs.ko
Using /tmp as temporary directory.
/sbin/nash - /tmp/initrd.dLAEY6/bin/nash
/lib/modules/2.6.3-19mdk/./kernel/fs/reiserfs/reiserfs.ko.gz:55.7%
copy from /tmp/initrd.dLAEY6/lib/reiserfs.ko(elf32-i386) 
to /tmp/initrd.dLAEY6/lib/stPgI9QF(elf32-i386)
Loading module reiserfs.ko
Contents of RCFILE:
#!/bin/nash

echo Loading reiserfs.ko module
insmod /lib/reiserfs.ko
echo Mounting /proc filesystem
mount -t proc /proc /proc
echo Mounting sysfs
mount -t sysfs none /sys
echo Creating device files
mkdevices /dev
echo Creating root device
mkrootdev /dev/root
echo Mounting root filesystem with flags notail,noatime
mount -o notail,noatime --ro -t reiserfs /dev/root /sysroot
echo 0x0100  /proc/sys/kernel/real-root-dev
pivot_root /sysroot /sysroot/initrd
umount /initrd/sys
umount /initrd/proc
echo Initrd finished
Creating filesystem with size 428KB and 163 inodes
tune2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
Setting interval between check 0 seconds
bootsplash not found in /boot/initrd-2.6.3-19mdk.img
lilo failed: Fatal: open /dev/sda: No such device or address
error: %post(kernel-2.6.3.19mdk-1-1mdk) scriptlet failed, exit status 1

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[newbie] What kernel do I have?

2004-11-26 Per discussione Vegard Lundby Rekaa
How do I find out what linux kernel I have?

Regards Vegard



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Re: [newbie] What kernel do I have?

2004-11-26 Per discussione mike
Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote:
 How do I find out what linux kernel I have?
 
 Regards Vegard
 


type uname -a without quotes in terminal window.


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Re: [newbie] 10.1 kernel boot problem

2004-11-02 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 02 November 2004 00:12, Azarnoosh Ali wrote:
 Hi,

 I tried to install mandrake 10.1 community on a PIII machin.
 During the installation anything were ok. but the system could not boot.

 when the boot process launched vmlinuz, the system restarted.

 I checked the bootsector and I used both lilo and grub.

 for example I tried to boot the system with a grub boot diskett, in the
 following steps:

 grab root (hd0,6)
 Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83

 grab kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda7
 [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1400, size=0x13e622]

 grab boot


 the last command results restarting the system with any additional message.

 I tried with another machin but the problem was not solved.

 I can boot the installed mandrake 10.1 with SUSE Linux 9.1 Boot CD with the
 option of Boot Installed System. But it is not possible to boot the
 system with its own kernel.

 Any idea?

 Thanks
 Ali Azarnoosh

The standard 10.1 kernel is compiled for i686 which will not work on a PIII  
The installer is supposed to install the kernel version 'kernel-i586-up-1GB'  
on a PIII, but I have read reports that it still installs the standard kernel 
with some processors (I have seen this with a Via C3 processor).

If you can boot with your Suse CD (or with your Mandrake CD in 'rescue' mode), 
then install the i586 kernel using the Mandrake Install GUI.

HTH

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[newbie] 10.1 kernel boot problem

2004-11-01 Per discussione Azarnoosh Ali

Hi,I tried to install mandrake 10.1 community on a PIII machin.During the installation anything were ok. but the system could not boot.when the boot process launched vmlinuz, the system restarted.I checked the bootsector and I used both lilo and grub.for example I tried to boot the system with a grub boot diskett, in the following steps:grab root (hd0,6)Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83grab kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda7[Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1400, size=0x13e622]grab bootthe last command results restarting the system with any additional message.I tried with another machin but the problem was not solved.I can boot the installed mandrake 10.1 with SUSE Linux 9.1 Boot CD with the option of "Boot Installed System". But it is not possible to boot the system with its own kernel.Any idea?ThanksAli
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Re: [newbie] smp kernel

2004-10-17 Per discussione Dan Gordon
On October 17, 2004 01:06 am, Marek Pawinski wrote:

 I am having a lot of segfaulting, my kernel, update kernel uninstalls
 itself and after a day or two my rpms i download seem to go bad with
 a smp kernel on ML OE, did you have these problems ? Can i run a
 normal kernel on a Hyper Threading machine ?

 Marek

I had the same problems with Mandrake 10, now im running Mandrake 10.1 
and smp is working very well.
Yes a normal kernel should work just fine for you.  What version of 
Mandrake are you running ?

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] smp kernel

2004-10-17 Per discussione Marek Pawinski
Dan Gordon wrote:
On October 17, 2004 01:06 am, Marek Pawinski wrote:
I am having a lot of segfaulting, my kernel, update kernel uninstalls
itself and after a day or two my rpms i download seem to go bad with
a smp kernel on ML OE, did you have these problems ? Can i run a
normal kernel on a Hyper Threading machine ?
Marek

I had the same problems with Mandrake 10, now im running Mandrake 10.1 
and smp is working very well.
Yes a normal kernel should work just fine for you.  What version of 
Mandrake are you running ?

Regards,
Dan Gordon
I tried ML 10.0 Official at first and then i tried ML 10.1 Community 
with the same results. I will try the normal kernel, can i leave HT 
enabled in the BIOS still though with the normal kernel ?

Marek

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Re: [newbie] smp kernel

2004-10-17 Per discussione Dan Gordon
On October 17, 2004 08:41 am, Marek Pawinski wrote:
 Dan Gordon wrote:
  On October 17, 2004 01:06 am, Marek Pawinski wrote:
 I am having a lot of segfaulting, my kernel, update kernel
  uninstalls itself and after a day or two my rpms i download seem
  to go bad with a smp kernel on ML OE, did you have these problems
  ? Can i run a normal kernel on a Hyper Threading machine ?
 
 Marek
 
  I had the same problems with Mandrake 10, now im running Mandrake
  10.1 and smp is working very well.
  Yes a normal kernel should work just fine for you.  What version of
  Mandrake are you running ?
 
  Regards,
  Dan Gordon

 I tried ML 10.0 Official at first and then i tried ML 10.1 Community
 with the same results. I will try the normal kernel, can i leave HT
 enabled in the BIOS still though with the normal kernel ?


Yes just select normal kernel instead of smp when you get lilo prompt.

Regards,
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[newbie] smp kernel

2004-10-16 Per discussione Dan Gordon
Hello list,
A long time ago right about the time Mandrake 10 comunity came out 
someone asked me to let them know how the smp kernel was running for 
me.  Well all I can say is it was not good for me.  75% of the time 
applications were segfaulting on me so I went with a regular kernel.
Now I have installed Mandrake 10.1 yesterday and the default kernel it 
installed was 2.6.8.1-10mdksmp
and I am happy to report it is running very well,  I am very impressed 
with how things are working and want to say way to go Mandrake.
Keep up the good work.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] smp kernel

2004-10-16 Per discussione Marek Pawinski
Dan Gordon wrote:
Hello list,
A long time ago right about the time Mandrake 10 comunity came out 
someone asked me to let them know how the smp kernel was running for 
me.  Well all I can say is it was not good for me.  75% of the time 
applications were segfaulting on me so I went with a regular kernel.
Now I have installed Mandrake 10.1 yesterday and the default kernel it 
installed was 2.6.8.1-10mdksmp
and I am happy to report it is running very well,  I am very impressed 
with how things are working and want to say way to go Mandrake.
Keep up the good work.

Regards,
Dan Gordon
I am having a lot of segfaulting, my kernel, update kernel uninstalls 
itself and after a day or two my rpms i download seem to go bad with a 
smp kernel on ML OE, did you have these problems ? Can i run a normal 
kernel on a Hyper Threading machine ?

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Re: [newbie] smp kernel

2004-10-16 Per discussione David Johnson
Wow.  I'm running the SMP kernel on my 2.8GHz P4 laptop and it works great.

I don't have much experience with it so far, but I haven't had a
single problem with it.  You should be able to install the single proc
kernel even on a multi-threaded machine though.


On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 07:06:07 +0200, Marek Pawinski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dan Gordon wrote:
  Hello list,
  A long time ago right about the time Mandrake 10 comunity came out
  someone asked me to let them know how the smp kernel was running for
  me.  Well all I can say is it was not good for me.  75% of the time
  applications were segfaulting on me so I went with a regular kernel.
  Now I have installed Mandrake 10.1 yesterday and the default kernel it
  installed was 2.6.8.1-10mdksmp
  and I am happy to report it is running very well,  I am very impressed
  with how things are working and want to say way to go Mandrake.
  Keep up the good work.
 
  Regards,
  Dan Gordon
 I am having a lot of segfaulting, my kernel, update kernel uninstalls
 itself and after a day or two my rpms i download seem to go bad with a
 smp kernel on ML OE, did you have these problems ? Can i run a normal
 kernel on a Hyper Threading machine ?
 

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Re: [newbie] Building Kernel

2004-08-02 Per discussione Kevin Ferguson
Paul Smith wrote:
Kevin Ferguson wrote:
Where from can one get the kernel 2.6.7 ?
Source Kernel www.kernel.org  Rpm one 
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat=26dist=34size=18610507name=kernel-2.6.7.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 
give that ago mate.

Thanks, Kevin. Sorry for not having noticed the link that you had 
already given to us.

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That's alright, I never really see things infront  of me, unless my 
girlfriend points them out to me ;)

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Re: [newbie] Building Kernel

2004-08-01 Per discussione Kevin Ferguson
Frank wrote:
Kevin Ferguson wrote:
Hi Guys
Just a quickie.  I'm experiementing at the moment.  I have Mandrake 
10 CE, with Kernel 2.6.3-4mdk installed.

I'm wanting to build my kernel from source, the lastest kernel I'm 
downloading is 2.6.7.  Is if ok for me to go ahead and build the 
source?  Would I need to apply any patch's in between?

Thanks
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Just my 2 cents worth as someone who has just done kernel stuff.
Why not either:
# urpmi kernel-source-2.6.7
and let urpmi do things for you.  use the readme.txt to do the rest, OR:
# urpmi kernel
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Hi Frank
I wasn't sure if it was in the urpmi so I thought I'd give it a try.  I 
think I need to update my urpmi to be honest.  Thanks again for your 
help.  I'll post back if I have any probs

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Re: [newbie] Building Kernel

2004-08-01 Per discussione Frank
Kevin Ferguson wrote:
Frank wrote:
Kevin Ferguson wrote:
Hi Guys
Just a quickie.  I'm experiementing at the moment.  I have Mandrake 
10 CE, with Kernel 2.6.3-4mdk installed.

I'm wanting to build my kernel from source, the lastest kernel I'm 
downloading is 2.6.7.  Is if ok for me to go ahead and build the 
source?  Would I need to apply any patch's in between?

Thanks
Kevin
 


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Just my 2 cents worth as someone who has just done kernel stuff.
Why not either:
# urpmi kernel-source-2.6.7
and let urpmi do things for you.  use the readme.txt to do the rest, OR:
# urpmi kernel
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Hi Frank
I wasn't sure if it was in the urpmi so I thought I'd give it a try.  
I think I need to update my urpmi to be honest.  Thanks again for your 
help.  I'll post back if I have any probs

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If you get this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] urpmi]# urpmi kernel
Everything already installed
Then search for the package you want and do a :
#urpmi.addmedia any name you like full url to the sites 
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Re: [newbie] Building Kernel

2004-08-01 Per discussione Paul Smith
I'm wanting to build my kernel from source, the lastest kernel I'm 
downloading is 2.6.7.  Is if ok for me to go ahead and build the 
source?  Would I need to apply any patch's in between?
Where from can one get the kernel 2.6.7 ?
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Re: [newbie] Building Kernel

2004-08-01 Per discussione Kevin Ferguson
Paul Smith wrote:
I'm wanting to build my kernel from source, the lastest kernel I'm 
downloading is 2.6.7.  Is if ok for me to go ahead and build the 
source?  Would I need to apply any patch's in between?

Where from can one get the kernel 2.6.7 ?
Thanks in advance,
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Source Kernel www.kernel.org  Rpm one 
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat=26dist=34size=18610507name=kernel-2.6.7.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 
give that ago mate.

regards
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Re: [newbie] Building Kernel

2004-08-01 Per discussione Paul Smith
Kevin Ferguson wrote:
Where from can one get the kernel 2.6.7 ?
Source Kernel www.kernel.org  Rpm one 
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat=26dist=34size=18610507name=kernel-2.6.7.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 
give that ago mate.
Thanks, Kevin. Sorry for not having noticed the link that you had 
already given to us.

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Re: [newbie] Building Kernel

2004-07-31 Per discussione Frank
Kevin Ferguson wrote:
Hi Guys
Just a quickie.  I'm experiementing at the moment.  I have Mandrake 10 
CE, with Kernel 2.6.3-4mdk installed.

I'm wanting to build my kernel from source, the lastest kernel I'm 
downloading is 2.6.7.  Is if ok for me to go ahead and build the 
source?  Would I need to apply any patch's in between?

Thanks
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Just my 2 cents worth as someone who has just done kernel stuff.
Why not either:
# urpmi kernel-source-2.6.7
and let urpmi do things for you.  use the readme.txt to do the rest, OR:
# urpmi kernel
and from the list on offer - choose one?
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Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result

2004-07-29 Per discussione Charlie Mahan
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On July 29, 2004 09:33:09, Tom Brinkman wrote:
snip

   I've seen numion recommended on other lists. Here's why I
 don't use it. In a test there just now it ended with 23,961 kbps
 for my 1,500 kbps connection. Which is nearly 16 times faster
 than my DSL is theoretically capable of. An impossibility!  Good
 for braggin rights tho ;)

I agree completely. There are much better tests available. That one has the 
advantage of being extremely graphical. g Accurate? Well not so much.

  It is correct, an I apologize for not mentioning that
 dslreports requires a java enabled browser.  At least it gives
 realistic results tho ;)

   Your cable results are exceptional. Cable users around here
 (RoadRunner, $39/mo.) report 600 to 900kbps.  Or about 1/2 to
 2/3's the speed I get with DSL.  They also report that's it's
 slower at night or on weekends. DSL remains constant no matter
 how many users are on line.

I do believe you are correct Tom, in all respects. I'm uncertain why the 
situation is different here than every other city I've heard about but it is.

Exceptional usability and decent customer service is why I haven't bothered to 
switch from my cable provider to anything else. Here in Edmonton the opposite 
conditions in re. the speed, reliability, and consistency of DSL vs cable 
obtains. A lot of my friends have switched from the phone company (DSL) to 
cable. This would be one example of why:

2004-07-29 12:01:40 EST: 2449 / 455
Your download speed : 2508636 bps, or 2449 kbps.
A 306.2 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 466083 bps, or 455 kbps.

Charlie
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[newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result

2004-07-28 Per discussione Fajar Priyanto
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Hi guys,
Since I'm using dialup connection, I can't make use of urpmi to upgrade my 
kernel (or in fact, any other package :(). So, I have to do it manually.
I upgraded my mdk9.2 from 2.4.22 to 2.4.26 using Con Kolivas' patches.

After upgraded, everything seems okay. Supermount is supported, etc... But, 
ini dmesg I noticed this:
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
invalid compressed format (err=2)6Freeing initrd memory: 343k freed
EXT2-fs warning (device ide0(3,5)): ext2_read_super: mounting ext3 filesystem 
as ext2

What is causing that? Is that normal? Does it mean that my ext3 becomes 
non-journaling FS ext2? In 2.4.22 kernel, I noticed in dmesg that linux loads 
ext3.o, which is not occurs in 2.4.26.

What do you think guys?
Thanks.
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Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result

2004-07-28 Per discussione Hoyt Bailey
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 03:24, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
 Hi guys,
 Since I'm using dialup connection, I can't make use of urpmi to
 upgrade my kernel (or in fact, any other package :(). So, I have to
 do it manually. I upgraded my mdk9.2 from 2.4.22 to 2.4.26 using Con
 Kolivas' patches.

 After upgraded, everything seems okay. Supermount is supported,
 etc... But, ini dmesg I noticed this:
 RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
 invalid compressed format (err=2)6Freeing initrd memory: 343k freed
 EXT2-fs warning (device ide0(3,5)): ext2_read_super: mounting ext3
 filesystem as ext2

 What is causing that? Is that normal? Does it mean that my ext3
 becomes non-journaling FS ext2? In 2.4.22 kernel, I noticed in dmesg
 that linux loads ext3.o, which is not occurs in 2.4.26.

 What do you think guys?
 Thanks.
I think something is wrong.  When I was on dialup I had no problem using 
urpmi. IMHO urpmi on dialup is manually.
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Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result

2004-07-28 Per discussione Fajar Priyanto
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On Wednesday 28 July 2004 07:15 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 July 2004 03:24, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
  Hi guys,
  Since I'm using dialup connection, I can't make use of urpmi to
  upgrade my kernel (or in fact, any other package :(). So, I have to
  do it manually. I upgraded my mdk9.2 from 2.4.22 to 2.4.26 using Con
  Kolivas' patches.

 I think something is wrong.  When I was on dialup I had no problem using
 urpmi. IMHO urpmi on dialup is manually.

Hi Hoyt,
No, there's nothing wrong with urpmi. The only problem is that using dialup 
connection, it takes forever to use urpmi, in other words... I have to pay a 
huge amount of internet and phone bills at the end of the month because of 
the online time I use for urpmi to the net. :((
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Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result

2004-07-28 Per discussione Dan Gordon
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 11:24 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote:

Hi guys,
Since I'm using dialup connection, I can't make use of urpmi to
upgrade my kernel (or in fact, any other package :(). So, I have
to do it manually. I upgraded my mdk9.2 from 2.4.22 to 2.4.26
using Con Kolivas' patches.
  
   I think something is wrong.  When I was on dialup I had no problem
   using urpmi. IMHO urpmi on dialup is manually.
 
  Hi Hoyt,
  No, there's nothing wrong with urpmi. The only problem is that using
  dialup connection, it takes forever to use urpmi, in other words... I
  have to pay a huge amount of internet and phone bills at the end of
  the month because of the online time I use for urpmi to the net. :((

 I guess I don't understand your ISP here in Oklahoma I can get online
 dialup for 9.95 mo with no extra charges for time used. DSL is 29.95.

There are still some places that don't enjoy the benefit's of competion like 
we do.

Regards,
Dan Gordon
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Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result

2004-07-28 Per discussione Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 12:29 pm, Dan Gordon wrote:
   Hi Hoyt,
   No, there's nothing wrong with urpmi. The only problem is
   that using dialup connection, it takes forever to use
   urpmi, in other words... I have to pay a huge amount of
   internet and phone bills at the end of the month because of
   the online time I use for urpmi to the net. :((
 
  I guess I don't understand your ISP here in Oklahoma I can
  get online dialup for 9.95 mo with no extra charges for time
  used. DSL is 29.95.

 There are still some places that don't enjoy the benefit's of
 competion like we do.

 Regards,
 Dan Gordon

  The part y'all leave out is speed, so price quotes are 
sort'a useless.  256k (down)/56k (up) aDSL is available here for 
$21/month.  1.5Mb/256k aDSL is $49.  8Mb DSL (not asynchronous, 
dedicated line, no phone) is near $180/mo, but only available to 
businesses.  Several other options. Only with accounts more than 
$49/mo. is the equipment free (ie, modem and NIC).

To check your actual speed
 http://www.dslreports.com/stest

  My 1.5Mb (1500kbps) DSL  gets about 1278 kbps down, 214 kbps up 
on a good day.

Just like with dialup (56kbps), you'll never get the full 
theoretical speed.   IOW's 1278 is about right for my 1500 
connection.  And you can't divide by 8 (bits per byte) to get the 
actual KiloBytes per second.  'urpmi' displays KB's/sec and I 
generally get 155 to 160 K/s from mirrors.  I've got a newsgroup 
feed that sometimes gets me near 170KB/s, but more often in the 
165K/s range.  So a lot depens on the server to connect to, and 
the hops in between.

To put this in perspective, a good 56k dialup will yield about 
4.7 K/s. So my DSL is about 35 times faster than the best dialup, 
but for 4 times the cost.  On the plus side, aDSL has POTS (voice 
phone line) piggybacked on and I can download at 160KB/s and 
still talk on the phone.  Tho phone service is a separate charge, 
just as it is with dialup.
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Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result

2004-07-28 Per discussione Hoyt Bailey
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 15:02, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 July 2004 12:29 pm, Dan Gordon wrote:
Hi Hoyt,
No, there's nothing wrong with urpmi. The only problem is
that using dialup connection, it takes forever to use
urpmi, in other words... I have to pay a huge amount of
internet and phone bills at the end of the month because of
the online time I use for urpmi to the net. :((
  
   I guess I don't understand your ISP here in Oklahoma I can
   get online dialup for 9.95 mo with no extra charges for time
   used. DSL is 29.95.
 
  There are still some places that don't enjoy the benefit's of
  competion like we do.
 
  Regards,
  Dan Gordon

   The part y'all leave out is speed, so price quotes are
 sort'a useless.  256k (down)/56k (up) aDSL is available here for
 $21/month.  1.5Mb/256k aDSL is $49.  8Mb DSL (not asynchronous,
 dedicated line, no phone) is near $180/mo, but only available to
 businesses.  Several other options. Only with accounts more than
 $49/mo. is the equipment free (ie, modem and NIC).

 To check your actual speed
  http://www.dslreports.com/stest

   My 1.5Mb (1500kbps) DSL  gets about 1278 kbps down, 214 kbps up
 on a good day.

 Just like with dialup (56kbps), you'll never get the full
 theoretical speed.   IOW's 1278 is about right for my 1500
 connection.  And you can't divide by 8 (bits per byte) to get the
 actual KiloBytes per second.  'urpmi' displays KB's/sec and I
 generally get 155 to 160 K/s from mirrors.  I've got a newsgroup
 feed that sometimes gets me near 170KB/s, but more often in the
 165K/s range.  So a lot depens on the server to connect to, and
 the hops in between.

 To put this in perspective, a good 56k dialup will yield about
 4.7 K/s. So my DSL is about 35 times faster than the best dialup,
 but for 4 times the cost.  On the plus side, aDSL has POTS (voice
 phone line) piggybacked on and I can download at 160KB/s and
 still talk on the phone.  Tho phone service is a separate charge,
 just as it is with dialup.
True my service is 1,500kbs. I don't have figures to match yours.
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Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result

2004-07-28 Per discussione Charlie Mahan
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whack'n'snip

   The part y'all leave out is speed, so price quotes are
 sort'a useless.  256k (down)/56k (up) aDSL is available here for
 $21/month.  1.5Mb/256k aDSL is $49.  8Mb DSL (not asynchronous,
 dedicated line, no phone) is near $180/mo, but only available to
 businesses.  Several other options. Only with accounts more than
 $49/mo. is the equipment free (ie, modem and NIC).

 To check your actual speed
  http://www.dslreports.com/stest

You may have wanted to mention to anyone that hasn't managed to get java 
working yet (not really hard) that this test requires java applets.

   My 1.5Mb (1500kbps) DSL  gets about 1278 kbps down, 214 kbps up
 on a good day.

I get about twice those values on average. Shaw High Speed XTreme cable. 
Around $31.00/month Canadian. Think x.7523 to convert to U.S currency at 
today's close, or $23.32 U.S. converted.

For those that don't have, haven't been able to get java working, or don't 
want to; try the speed test at numion. It tests your connection to various 
web sites nationally or internationally. The URL is:

http://www.numion.com/

You can also test your website if you like.

Regards;
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[newbie] 2.6 Kernel, Matrix Orbital LCD (MX2, USB), LCDproc

2004-06-23 Per discussione Ali Fay
Hi,

Anyone had any luck with the above? I'm trying to get my Matrix Orbital
LCD working, with LCDproc (0.4.5) on the 2.6 Kenerl. I have the generic
usb serial drivers enabled - well, I think they might be modules I'm not
sure.anyway, I can't get it to work and was wondering if anyone
could shed some light on the situation...

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Re: [newbie] KPPP: Kernel PPP support

2004-05-19 Per discussione Katinka Peter
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 01:16, et wrote:
 On Thursday 29 April 2004 01:55 am, Katinka Peter wrote:
   On Wednesday 28 April 2004 09:26 am, Katinka Peter wrote:
Since I`ve updated from 8.2 to 10.0 Official, I cannot connect to the
internet anymore. When I try to connect using KPPP, the modem dials
but then I get the following error message:
   
pppd daemon died unexpectedly! Exit status 4 (On man pppd, the
 
  explanation
 
is: 4: The kernel does not support PPP, for example, the PPP kernel
 
  driver
 
is not included or cannot be loaded.). Details: unable to open the
 
  /dev/ppp
 
device. You need to create the /dev/ppp device by executing the
 
  following
 
command as root: ^lmknod /dev/ppp c 1808 0
   
When I do this, I get the message: substitution failed, so I don`t
have
 
  ppp
 
in the /dev folder.
   
I`d be grateful for help. Thanks, Kat
  
  Did you do a clean install of 10.0 or a upgrade? I had LOTS of
   problems with 10.0 after upgrades and internet connections was one of
   them.
  
  Marc
 
  I`ve only done an upgrade, which might be the problem. I`ll do a clean
  install instead and hope it`ll work then.
  Thanks for your advice,
  Kat

 install kdenetwork

Thanks, it worked without problems after a clean install.
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[newbie] Multimedia Kernel

2004-05-18 Per discussione JoeHill

Just curious, what kind of performance difference to expect from trying the MM
kernel. My machine ain't the most powerful to begin with, P3 866 with the
aforementioned GeForce FX 128MB PCI card.

Am I lookin' at gaining like 3 FPS in MOH, or is there a noticeable diff with my
specs?

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+++
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Gen. William Boykin, an evangelical Christian under review for saying his God
was superior to that of the Muslims, briefed a top Pentagon civilian official
last summer on recommendations on ways military interrogators could gain more
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Re: [newbie] KPPP: Kernel PPP support

2004-05-18 Per discussione et
On Thursday 29 April 2004 01:55 am, Katinka Peter wrote:
  On Wednesday 28 April 2004 09:26 am, Katinka Peter wrote:
   Since I`ve updated from 8.2 to 10.0 Official, I cannot connect to the
   internet anymore. When I try to connect using KPPP, the modem dials but
   then I get the following error message:
  
   pppd daemon died unexpectedly! Exit status 4 (On man pppd, the

 explanation

   is: 4: The kernel does not support PPP, for example, the PPP kernel

 driver

   is not included or cannot be loaded.). Details: unable to open the

 /dev/ppp

   device. You need to create the /dev/ppp device by executing the

 following

   command as root: ^lmknod /dev/ppp c 1808 0
  
   When I do this, I get the message: substitution failed, so I don`t have

 ppp

   in the /dev folder.
  
   I`d be grateful for help. Thanks, Kat
 
 Did you do a clean install of 10.0 or a upgrade? I had LOTS of
  problems with 10.0 after upgrades and internet connections was one of
  them.
 
 Marc

 I`ve only done an upgrade, which might be the problem. I`ll do a clean
 install instead and hope it`ll work then.
 Thanks for your advice,
 Kat
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[newbie] KPPP: Kernel PPP support

2004-04-28 Per discussione Katinka Peter
Since I`ve updated from 8.2 to 10.0 Official, I cannot connect to the
internet anymore. When I try to connect using KPPP, the modem dials but then
I get the following error message:

pppd daemon died unexpectedly! Exit status 4 (On man pppd, the explanation
is: 4: The kernel does not support PPP, for example, the PPP kernel driver
is not included or cannot be loaded.). Details: unable to open the /dev/ppp
device. You need to create the /dev/ppp device by executing the following
command as root: ^lmknod /dev/ppp c 1808 0

When I do this, I get the message: substitution failed, so I don`t have ppp
in the /dev folder.

I`d be grateful for help. Thanks, Kat



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Re: [newbie] KPPP: Kernel PPP support

2004-04-28 Per discussione Roland Hughes
I did a upgrade on my wife's PC and except for fixing a few icons it seemed to 
go in good. She user's kppp and it works fine.
roly

On Wednesday 28 April 2004 06:07 pm, Marc wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 April 2004 09:26 am, Katinka Peter wrote:
  Since I`ve updated from 8.2 to 10.0 Official, I cannot connect to the
  internet anymore. When I try to connect using KPPP, the modem dials but
  then I get the following error message:
 
  pppd daemon died unexpectedly! Exit status 4 (On man pppd, the
  explanation is: 4: The kernel does not support PPP, for example, the PPP
  kernel driver is not included or cannot be loaded.). Details: unable to
  open the /dev/ppp device. You need to create the /dev/ppp device by
  executing the following command as root: ^lmknod /dev/ppp c 1808 0
 
  When I do this, I get the message: substitution failed, so I don`t have
  ppp in the /dev folder.
 
  I`d be grateful for help. Thanks, Kat

Did you do a clean install of 10.0 or a upgrade? I had LOTS of problems
 with 10.0 after upgrades and internet connections was one of them.

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Re: [newbie] KPPP: Kernel PPP support

2004-04-28 Per discussione Katinka Peter

 On Wednesday 28 April 2004 09:26 am, Katinka Peter wrote:
  Since I`ve updated from 8.2 to 10.0 Official, I cannot connect to the
  internet anymore. When I try to connect using KPPP, the modem dials but
  then I get the following error message:
 
  pppd daemon died unexpectedly! Exit status 4 (On man pppd, the
explanation
  is: 4: The kernel does not support PPP, for example, the PPP kernel
driver
  is not included or cannot be loaded.). Details: unable to open the
/dev/ppp
  device. You need to create the /dev/ppp device by executing the
following
  command as root: ^lmknod /dev/ppp c 1808 0
 
  When I do this, I get the message: substitution failed, so I don`t have
ppp
  in the /dev folder.
 
  I`d be grateful for help. Thanks, Kat

Did you do a clean install of 10.0 or a upgrade? I had LOTS of problems
 with 10.0 after upgrades and internet connections was one of them.

Marc

I`ve only done an upgrade, which might be the problem. I`ll do a clean
install instead and hope it`ll work then.
Thanks for your advice,
Kat



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Re: [newbie] Win4lin kernel

2004-04-16 Per discussione Anne Wilson
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On Friday 16 April 2004 01:49, Marc wrote:
   It seems that in order to run win4lin I will have to install a
 win4lin enabled kernel. I found  
 kernel-win4lin-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk-3-8mdk RPM for i586 at mandrake
 cooker. If I run this rpm what will happen? Will my existing kernel
 be replaced or will the new kernel be added. Will I be able to boot
 from eather kernel?  

Assuming that it works like the ones available from Netraverse, it will 
add a kernel, and your existing one will remain available.  The 
required kernel version must be installed first, though.

 The discription of the
 kernel-win4lin-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk-3-8mdk RPM for i586 says that
 it requires  kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk.  I am running ML 10.0
 community download edition that first came out a month ago. I am
 running kernel 2.6.3-4mdk  if I update to the new 10.0 final that
 just came out will it have the i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk kernel allready
 installed?

 Sorry for asking so many questions in 1 message but upgrading
 kernels scares the hell outta me.

And rightly so, I think.  Don't upgrade kernels, just install another 
one.  Lilo will gain another stanza, and both versions will be 
available.  It's easy, and must be foolproof - I've never met any 
problems, and if there were any, I'd find them g

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[newbie] Win4lin kernel

2004-04-15 Per discussione Marc
  It seems that in order to run win4lin I will have to install a win4lin 
enabled kernel. I found   kernel-win4lin-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk-3-8mdk RPM 
for i586 at mandrake cooker. If I run this rpm what will happen? Will my 
existing kernel be replaced or will the new kernel be added. Will I be able 
to boot from eather kernel?  The discription of the 
kernel-win4lin-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk-3-8mdk RPM for i586 says that it 
requires  kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk.  I am running ML 10.0 community 
download edition that first came out a month ago. I am running kernel 
2.6.3-4mdk  if I update to the new 10.0 final that just came out will it have 
the i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk kernel allready installed?

Sorry for asking so many questions in 1 message but upgrading kernels 
scares the hell outta me.

TIA
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Re: [newbie] Win4lin kernel

2004-04-15 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 10:49, Marc wrote:
   It seems that in order to run win4lin I will have to install a win4lin 
 enabled kernel. I found   kernel-win4lin-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk-3-8mdk RPM 
 for i586 at mandrake cooker. If I run this rpm what will happen? Will my 
 existing kernel be replaced or will the new kernel be added. Will I be able 
 to boot from eather kernel?  The discription of the 
 kernel-win4lin-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk-3-8mdk RPM for i586 says that it 
 requires  kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk.  I am running ML 10.0 community 
 download edition that first came out a month ago. I am running kernel 
 2.6.3-4mdk  if I update to the new 10.0 final that just came out will it have 
 the i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk kernel allready installed?
 
 Sorry for asking so many questions in 1 message but upgrading kernels 
 scares the hell outta me.
 
 TIA
 Marc

It SHOULD just put another kernel in the /boot dir and add itself to
your lilo menu...(did it under 9.1 before and that's what it did)

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Re: [newbie] Win4lin kernel

2004-04-15 Per discussione Greg Meyer
On Thursday 15 April 2004 08:49 pm, Marc wrote:
   It seems that in order to run win4lin I will have to install a win4lin
 enabled kernel. I found   kernel-win4lin-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk-3-8mdk RPM
 for i586 at mandrake cooker. If I run this rpm what will happen? Will my
 existing kernel be replaced or will the new kernel be added. Will I be able
 to boot from eather kernel?  The discription of the
 kernel-win4lin-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk-3-8mdk RPM for i586 says that it
 requires  kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk.  I am running ML 10.0 community
 download edition that first came out a month ago. I am running kernel
 2.6.3-4mdk  if I update to the new 10.0 final that just came out will it
 have the i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk kernel allready installed?

If you are currently running kernel 2.6.3-7mdk from community, there is a 
kernel-win4lin-2.6.3-7mdk that matches it in cooker contrib.   It uses the 
same modules that the main kernel uses, so it is a small download (about 
1.5MB), and it has menu icons and some other scripts to get it installed 
properly, so it is the best one to use.  I found it here:

ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/devel/cooker/contrib/i586/kernel-win4lin-2.6.3.7mdk-3-8mdk.i586.rpm

For some reason, it never made it into contrib for 10.0 CE.  I'll email the 
maintainer tos find out why.  I also just noticed that this is the package 
you found, and yes it is the one to use.  make sure you match the pacake to 
your kernel, in other words the package you reference matches  
kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
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[newbie] New kernel (was: USB SDcard reader)

2004-03-27 Per discussione Paul
On 03/27/2004 11:44 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:

Sorry - I did not make myself clear.  You would not find it on MU, I 
think, because doing it from there would update the kernel rather 
than installing a parallel one.  It's too dangerous.  I found it in 
the normal Software Installer, which said that it would be downloaded 
from Update Sources.
 

I found the newer kernel! Looking in the right place does help...  *grin*
So... before I blow up my box... when I select to install it: will the 
software installer add a new entry to lilo.conf for it, so I can select 
that at boottime?

Paul

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Re: [newbie] New kernel (was: USB SDcard reader)

2004-03-27 Per discussione Anne Wilson
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On Saturday 27 March 2004 12:53, Paul wrote:
 On 03/27/2004 11:44 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Sorry - I did not make myself clear.  You would not find it on MU,
  I think, because doing it from there would update the kernel
  rather than installing a parallel one.  It's too dangerous.  I
  found it in the normal Software Installer, which said that it
  would be downloaded from Update Sources.

 I found the newer kernel! Looking in the right place does help... 
 *grin* So... before I blow up my box... when I select to install
 it: will the software installer add a new entry to lilo.conf for
 it, so I can select that at boottime?

Yes.  You will have a longer lilo, from which you will be able to boot 
into either one.

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Re: [newbie] New kernel

2004-03-27 Per discussione Paul
On 03/27/2004 01:55 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:

Yes.  You will have a longer lilo, from which you will be able to boot 
into either one.
 

Okay. I got the new kernel installed and running.

Then I plugged in the camera. /var/log/messages keeps telling me the 
same, no drivers or modules for the new device. No /dev/sd? device shows 
up. gtkam does not recognise anything as a generic ptp device. 
/proc/bus/usb/devices does still show the camera.

So this ends up in a dead end again, from where I look at it...

Thanks for the assistance, though!
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Re: [newbie] New kernel

2004-03-27 Per discussione Anne Wilson
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On Saturday 27 March 2004 13:09, Paul wrote:
 On 03/27/2004 01:55 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Yes.  You will have a longer lilo, from which you will be able to
  boot into either one.

 Okay. I got the new kernel installed and running.

 Then I plugged in the camera. /var/log/messages keeps telling me
 the same, no drivers or modules for the new device. No /dev/sd?
 device shows up. gtkam does not recognise anything as a generic ptp
 device. /proc/bus/usb/devices does still show the camera.

 So this ends up in a dead end again, from where I look at it...

 Thanks for the assistance, though!

I'm sorry to say that I think you're right.  Better luck with the card 
reader

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[newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm

2004-02-11 Per discussione GV
Hi there,

where can I find and download the 2.4.22 kernel source rpm?

Thanks


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Re: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm

2004-02-11 Per discussione Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: GV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:32:54 +0100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm

 Hi there,
 
 where can I find and download the 2.4.22 kernel source rpm?
 
 Thanks
 
Hi, you can find the kernel-source for the standard 
2.4.22-10mdk kernel here:
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-10mdk.i586.rpm

The update kernel-source 2.4.22-26mdk here:
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-26mdk.i586.rpm

HTH. Best regards.


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Re: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm

2004-02-11 Per discussione Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: GV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:32:54 +0100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm

 Hi there,
 
 where can I find and download the 2.4.22 kernel source rpm?
 
 Thanks
 **
Oopson second reading of your request, perhaps you were 
looking for kernel src rpm?
If so, the kernel src rpm 2.4.22-26mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm is here:
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/SRPMS/kernel-2.4.22.26mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm

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Re: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm

2004-02-11 Per discussione GV
many thanks for your valuable help.

On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 13:40, Angus Auld wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: GV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:32:54 +0100
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm
 
  Hi there,
  
  where can I find and download the 2.4.22 kernel source rpm?
  
  Thanks
  **
 Oopson second reading of your request, perhaps you were 
 looking for kernel src rpm?
 If so, the kernel src rpm 2.4.22-26mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm is here:
 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/SRPMS/kernel-2.4.22.26mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm
 
 Regards. :-)
 
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Re: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm

2004-02-11 Per discussione Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf
On Wednesday 11 February 2004 01:02 pm, GV wrote:
 many thanks for your valuable help.

 On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 13:40, Angus Auld wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: GV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:32:54 +0100
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm
 
   Hi there,
  
   where can I find and download the 2.4.22 kernel
   source rpm?
  
   Thanks
   **
 
  Oopson second reading of your request, perhaps you
  were looking for kernel src rpm?
  If so, the kernel src rpm 2.4.22-26mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm
  is here:
  ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/u
 pdates/9.2/SRPMS/kernel-2.4.22.26mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm
 
  Regards. :-)
 
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I thought the new kernel with all security fixes was 
2.4.24 ? That's what I'm using on here. It's Slackware 
Linux 9.1.
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Re: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm

2004-02-11 Per discussione Charlie Mahan
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Wednesday 11 February 2004 2:13 pm, Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf wrote:
whack

 I thought the new kernel with all security fixes was
 2.4.24 ? That's what I'm using on here. It's Slackware
 Linux 9.1.

The new kernel with all the security fixes may be 2.4.24 for Slackware, but 
the latest update kernel for Mandrake 9.2 is

$/updates/9.2/RPMS/kernel-2.4.22.26mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm

For Mandrake 9.1

$/updates/9.1/RPMS/kernel-2.4.21.0.27mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm

The latest 2.4 series kernel for cooker right now is the one in my signature, 
2.6 is at

$/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-2.6.2.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm

Shall we try to keep the confusion to a minimum? Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm

2004-02-11 Per discussione Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf
On Wednesday 11 February 2004 04:53 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:
 Wednesday 11 February 2004 2:13 pm,
 Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf wrote: whack

  I thought the new kernel with all security fixes was
  2.4.24 ? That's what I'm using on here. It's Slackware
  Linux 9.1.

 The new kernel with all the security fixes may be 2.4.24
 for Slackware, but the latest update kernel for Mandrake
 9.2 is

 $/updates/9.2/RPMS/kernel-2.4.22.26mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm

 For Mandrake 9.1

 $/updates/9.1/RPMS/kernel-2.4.21.0.27mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm

 The latest 2.4 series kernel for cooker right now is the
 one in my signature, 2.6 is at

 $/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-2.6.2.1
mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm

 Shall we try to keep the confusion to a minimum? Thanks.

 Charlie

Sorry, I didn't know they used a different numbering scheme. 
I thought they all used a similar kernel version.

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Re: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm

2004-02-11 Per discussione Charlie Mahan
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Wednesday 11 February 2004 2:58 pm, Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf wrote:
  Shall we try to keep the confusion to a minimum? Thanks.
 
  Charlie

 Sorry, I didn't know they used a different numbering scheme.
 I thought they all used a similar kernel version.

That's OK, you seem to read and answer to this list on almost as many boxes as 
I sometimes do. g

I'm sure Slack Ware modifies the Vanilla kernel to at least the same extent 
that Mandrake and all other distributions do, so I'm also certain there are 
incompatibilities between all of those distributions' kernels. That would 
explain the numbering differences.

Don't forget to that a lot of the security fixes from various newer kernel 
versions can be ported back to the older versions in order to maintain 
consistency for releases.

Not to mention the differences between .deb and .rpm. (-:

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Re: [newbie] Missing kernel config file

2004-02-08 Per discussione Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:28:19 +
To: NEWBIE 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Missing kernel config file

 Missing kernel config file
 ==
 
 OK, so, packages,
 kdeadmin-3-1-8mdk
 kdeadminkpackage-3-1-8mdk
 are definately installed
 
 When in kde - system - linux kernel
 
 the window complains,
 The kernel configuration could not be read due to the following error:
 
 cannot open /usr/src/linux/arch//config.in for reading
 
 
 Either your kernel sources contain invalid configuration rules or you
 just found a bug in the KDE Kernel Configurator.
 
 and it says path to kernel sources :/usr/src/linux
 
 but no such directory exists
 
 trouble is I cannot find any config.in file anywhere
 
 what must I do to accomplish a kde kernel configeration interface
 
 
 John
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Hi John, I would say that you need to install the kernel-source 
package for your kernel.
That should provide you with all the stuff you are looking for. 

HTH. Best regards to you. :-) 

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[newbie] Missing kernel config file

2004-02-07 Per discussione John Richard Smith
Missing kernel config file
==
OK, so, packages,
kdeadmin-3-1-8mdk
kdeadminkpackage-3-1-8mdk
are definately installed
When in kde - system - linux kernel

the window complains,
The kernel configuration could not be read due to the following error:
cannot open /usr/src/linux/arch//config.in for reading

Either your kernel sources contain invalid configuration rules or you 
just found a bug in the KDE Kernel Configurator.

and it says path to kernel sources :/usr/src/linux

but no such directory exists

trouble is I cannot find any config.in file anywhere

what must I do to accomplish a kde kernel configeration interface

John

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[newbie] Missing kernel config file

2004-02-07 Per discussione John Richard Smith
Missing kernel config file
==
OK, so, packages,
kdeadmin-3-1-8mdk
kdeadminkpackage-3-1-8mdk
are definately installed
When in kde - system - linux kernel

the window complains,
The kernel configuration could not be read due to the following error:
cannot open /usr/src/linux/arch//config.in for reading

Either your kernel sources contain invalid configuration rules or you
just found a bug in the KDE Kernel Configurator.
and it says path to kernel sources :/usr/src/linux

but no such directory exists

trouble is I cannot find any config.in file anywhere

what must I do to accomplish a kde kernel configeration interface

John

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Re: [newbie] Missing kernel config file

2004-02-07 Per discussione John Drouhard
On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 13:32:53 +
John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Missing kernel config file
 ==
 
 OK, so, packages,
 kdeadmin-3-1-8mdk
 kdeadminkpackage-3-1-8mdk
 are definately installed
 
 When in kde - system - linux kernel
 
 the window complains,
 The kernel configuration could not be read due to the following error:
 
 cannot open /usr/src/linux/arch//config.in for reading
 
 
 Either your kernel sources contain invalid configuration rules or you 
 just found a bug in the KDE Kernel Configurator.
 
 and it says path to kernel sources :/usr/src/linux
 
 but no such directory exists
 
 trouble is I cannot find any config.in file anywhere
 
 what must I do to accomplish a kde kernel configeration interface
 
 

become root,
then:
ln -s /usr/src/linux-`uname -r` /usr/src/linux

That'll make the sym link.

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Re: [newbie] Patching Kernel with ACPI Support--Update

2004-01-19 Per discussione Tom Brinkman
On Sunday 18 January 2004 05:18 pm, marc resnick wrote:
 On Sunday 18 January 2004 05:50 pm, marc resnick wrote:
  On Sunday 18 January 2004 12:29 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
   On Saturday 17 January 2004 07:31 pm, marc resnick wrote:
I found my kernel version, and used the patch that went
with it. As I continued with the install, it kept saying
that the patch had been previously installed. I
overwrote, because acpi still didn't work on my computer.
I continued to get failures also. When I finally
finished, I had no /proc/acpi folder. Does anyone know
what I should do?
  
   ACPI is enabled by default in the kernel. You never
   needed a patch. Check your lilo.conf line and remove
   anything like 'acpi=off' or acpi=ht' from the kernel's
   append= line. Reboot. If that didn't do it, you can try
   adding 'acpi=force' to the append line as a last resort.
   BUT don't add it to lilo.conf just yet. At the lilo splash
   screen, press Esc and type 'linux acpi=force' (you may
   have to use one of the displayed kernel versions rather
   than 'linux' if you've updated kernels)
  
   acpi=  [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
force   Force ACPI on, even if blacklisted
   platform off Disable ACPI
ht  Limit ACPI to boot-time LAPIC enumeration
   for HT, disabling the run-time AML interpreter.
  
  Are you sure your hardware is ACPI capable?  It works
   in Windoze doesn't count.  If you get ACPI enabled,
   check /var/log/dmesg to see how succesfully it was
   implemented. I have ACPI enabled. If you want I can send
   you my dmesg file offlist as an example.
 
  Tom,
  I've tried enabling ACPI before, but Linux doesn't boot. Even
  when I force it, I only get a blank screen. I also think my
  hardware supports it, but I'm not sure. I'm not certain if I
  updated my kernel. I did download some packages once, which
  added some options to Lilo for booting, but I deleted them
  from the boot menu. =/. What do you suggest I do? -Marc

 I tried to boot with an updated version of my kernel(2.4.22-26
 rather than 2.4.22-10), but on boot, I get an error about being
 unable to locate a DSDT something or other. I'm stumped.

 Google turned this up for 'dsdt linux'
http://www.linux.com/howtos/ACPI-HOWTO/dsdt.shtml

 For most all situation, Mandrake defaults to disabling ACPI. 
Most hardware has problems with it.  The only thing you can do, 
AFAIK, is to try enabling it and see if it works. If if doesn't, 
you'll need somebody smarter than me to help, or give up. 
Generally, Google is your best friend.

On my recently new motherboard (desktop), Mandrake used 
'acpi=ht', which is pretty standard. It disables acpi, but allows 
for HT (hyper threading, which I don't have anyhow). I noticed 
tho in '/var/log/dmesg' that there were some boot warnings, 
'somethin wants IRQ3, but gets IRQ5', and another, 'somethin 
about spurious IRQ7'. 

   Thinkin ACPI had nothin to do with IRQ handling, and havin APIC 
enabled, I just ignored the mesgs for a while. Then I read 
somethin somewhere (Goggle search) that mentioned enabling ACPI 
to clear up those errors. I did and it did, and now going into 
and out of idle power suspend is much more reliable. It also 
cleared up a little occaisional scratchiness in alsa sound ouput 
(which I reckon was the IRQ3/5 deal). Anecdotal, but I suspect 
the Advanced Configuration part of ACPI, allows Advanced 
Programmable Interrupt Control (APIC), to fully do it's job (?).

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Re: [newbie] Patching Kernel with ACPI Support--Update

2004-01-18 Per discussione Tom Brinkman
On Saturday 17 January 2004 07:31 pm, marc resnick wrote:
 I found my kernel version, and used the patch that went with
 it. As I continued with the install, it kept saying that the
 patch had been previously installed. I overwrote, because acpi
 still didn't work on my computer. I continued to get failures
 also. When I finally finished, I had no /proc/acpi folder. Does
 anyone know what I should do?


ACPI is enabled by default in the kernel. You never needed a 
patch. Check your lilo.conf line and remove anything like 
'acpi=off' or acpi=ht' from the kernel's append= line. Reboot. If 
that didn't do it, you can try adding 'acpi=force' to the append 
line as a last resort. BUT don't add it to lilo.conf just yet. At 
the lilo splash screen, press Esc and type 'linux acpi=force'
(you may have to use one of the displayed kernel versions rather 
than 'linux' if you've updated kernels)

acpi=  [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
 force   Force ACPI on, even if blacklisted platform
 off Disable ACPI
 ht  Limit ACPI to boot-time LAPIC enumeration for HT,
disabling the run-time AML interpreter.

   Are you sure your hardware is ACPI capable?  It works in 
Windoze doesn't count.  If you get ACPI enabled, 
check /var/log/dmesg to see how succesfully it was implemented.
I have ACPI enabled. If you want I can send you my dmesg file 
offlist as an example.
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Re: [newbie] Patching Kernel with ACPI Support--Update

2004-01-18 Per discussione marc resnick
On Sunday 18 January 2004 12:29 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Saturday 17 January 2004 07:31 pm, marc resnick wrote:
  I found my kernel version, and used the patch that went with
  it. As I continued with the install, it kept saying that the
  patch had been previously installed. I overwrote, because acpi
  still didn't work on my computer. I continued to get failures
  also. When I finally finished, I had no /proc/acpi folder. Does
  anyone know what I should do?

 ACPI is enabled by default in the kernel. You never needed a
 patch. Check your lilo.conf line and remove anything like
 'acpi=off' or acpi=ht' from the kernel's append= line. Reboot. If
 that didn't do it, you can try adding 'acpi=force' to the append
 line as a last resort. BUT don't add it to lilo.conf just yet. At
 the lilo splash screen, press Esc and type 'linux acpi=force'
 (you may have to use one of the displayed kernel versions rather
 than 'linux' if you've updated kernels)

 acpi=  [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
  force   Force ACPI on, even if blacklisted platform
  off Disable ACPI
  ht  Limit ACPI to boot-time LAPIC enumeration for HT,
 disabling the run-time AML interpreter.

Are you sure your hardware is ACPI capable?  It works in
 Windoze doesn't count.  If you get ACPI enabled,
 check /var/log/dmesg to see how succesfully it was implemented.
 I have ACPI enabled. If you want I can send you my dmesg file
 offlist as an example.

Tom,
I've tried enabling ACPI before, but Linux doesn't boot. Even when I force it, 
I only get a blank screen. I also think my hardware supports it, but I'm not 
sure. I'm not certain if I updated my kernel. I did download some packages 
once, which added some options to Lilo for booting, but I deleted them from 
the boot menu. =/. What do you suggest I do?
-Marc


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Re: [newbie] Patching Kernel with ACPI Support--Update

2004-01-18 Per discussione marc resnick
On Sunday 18 January 2004 05:50 pm, marc resnick wrote:
 On Sunday 18 January 2004 12:29 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
  On Saturday 17 January 2004 07:31 pm, marc resnick wrote:
   I found my kernel version, and used the patch that went with
   it. As I continued with the install, it kept saying that the
   patch had been previously installed. I overwrote, because acpi
   still didn't work on my computer. I continued to get failures
   also. When I finally finished, I had no /proc/acpi folder. Does
   anyone know what I should do?
 
  ACPI is enabled by default in the kernel. You never needed a
  patch. Check your lilo.conf line and remove anything like
  'acpi=off' or acpi=ht' from the kernel's append= line. Reboot. If
  that didn't do it, you can try adding 'acpi=force' to the append
  line as a last resort. BUT don't add it to lilo.conf just yet. At
  the lilo splash screen, press Esc and type 'linux acpi=force'
  (you may have to use one of the displayed kernel versions rather
  than 'linux' if you've updated kernels)
 
  acpi=  [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
   force   Force ACPI on, even if blacklisted platform
   off Disable ACPI
   ht  Limit ACPI to boot-time LAPIC enumeration for HT,
  disabling the run-time AML interpreter.
 
 Are you sure your hardware is ACPI capable?  It works in
  Windoze doesn't count.  If you get ACPI enabled,
  check /var/log/dmesg to see how succesfully it was implemented.
  I have ACPI enabled. If you want I can send you my dmesg file
  offlist as an example.

 Tom,
 I've tried enabling ACPI before, but Linux doesn't boot. Even when I force
 it, I only get a blank screen. I also think my hardware supports it, but
 I'm not sure. I'm not certain if I updated my kernel. I did download some
 packages once, which added some options to Lilo for booting, but I deleted
 them from the boot menu. =/. What do you suggest I do?
 -Marc

I tried to boot with an updated version of my kernel(2.4.22-26 rather than
2.4.22-10), but on boot, I get an error about being unable to locate a DSDT
something or other. I'm stumped.


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[newbie] Patching Kernel with ACPI Support

2004-01-17 Per discussione marc resnick
Hello all,
In an attempt to patch my Kernel to get ACPI, I received these errors:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] linux]# patch -p1 /home/marc/acpi-20031203-2.4.25.diff
patching file arch/i386/kernel/smpboot.c
Hunk #1 FAILED at 1106.
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file 
arch/i386/kernel/smpboot.c.rej

I followed instructions on a site I found, and am not sure what it means. I'm 
thinking that I could have gotten the wrong version for my Kernel, but I 
don't know how to find out what Kernel I'm using.

Thanks in advance
Marc


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Re: [newbie] Patching Kernel with ACPI Support--Update

2004-01-17 Per discussione marc resnick
On Saturday 17 January 2004 06:00 pm, marc resnick wrote:
 Hello all,
 In an attempt to patch my Kernel to get ACPI, I received these errors:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux]# patch -p1 /home/marc/acpi-20031203-2.4.25.diff
 patching file arch/i386/kernel/smpboot.c
 Hunk #1 FAILED at 1106.
 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file
 arch/i386/kernel/smpboot.c.rej

 I followed instructions on a site I found, and am not sure what it means.
 I'm thinking that I could have gotten the wrong version for my Kernel, but
 I don't know how to find out what Kernel I'm using.

 Thanks in advance
 Marc

I found my kernel version, and used the patch that went with it. As I 
continued with the install, it kept saying that the patch had been previously 
installed. I overwrote, because acpi still didn't work on my computer. I 
continued to get failures also. When I finally finished, I had no /proc/acpi 
folder. Does anyone know what I should do?



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Re: [newbie] Installing kernel and kernel source.

2003-12-27 Per discussione Richard Urwin
On Saturday 27 Dec 2003 6:30 am, Steven Nelson wrote:
 I don't know if this will help, I thought it might. I finished installing
 the kernel (kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm) and kernel-source
 (kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm) about an hour ago. I tried a
 different method then the one above and it worked fine. Installed the
 kernel and kernel-source by typing these commands in at the init 3, root
 command line. rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
 rpm -Uvh kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm

 After they installed. I went to the /etc (still root) folder by using the
 command:
 cd /etc
 Then ran the command:
 lilo -v
 It configured a part of the lilo config file. Rebooted and everything was
 fine, the kernel and kernel-source were installed.

 After the kernel and kernel-source were installed I installed the video
 driver. It built the customized kernel module, because the kernel and
 kernel-source were now installed. THe driver installed fine. Ran the config
 and the desktop loaded fine.

I installed the same packages yesterday from mcc. It worked fine. I rebooted 
to the new kernel, which was called 2422-21, then edited /etc/lilo.conf to 
make it the default and ran lilo. A subsiquent reboot worked fine. At some 
point I'll have to re-install the Nvidia drivers, but I haven't had them in 
since upgrading to 9.2. If I had I'd have removed them before installing -21.

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Re: [newbie] Installing kernel and kernel source.

2003-12-26 Per discussione Charlie Mahan
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Thursday 25 December 2003 8:57 pm, Steven Nelson wrote:
 Downloaded kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and
 kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm from a Mandrake ftp server. I burned
 them to a cd so that I can install them from init 3. Will somebody tell me
 how to completely install those files from init 3?

   From,

 Steven

Log in as you, then at the command prompt type
su
and provide the root password when requested to become super user. Then;

cd /mnt/cdrom enter
ls enter

You should see a list (ls) of the files/packages on the cdrom. At the prompt 
type

urpmi kern(now strike the Tab button) and you should see the word
kernel
and a flashing cursor, plus the choices corresponding to the kernel and the 
kernel-source. Pick the next two characters in the name of the package you 
want to install first, hit the tab button to auto complete the command, and 
strike Enter. After that package installs and you return to the command 
prompt use the Up arrow on your keyboard to page back in the bash history to 
the previous command, backspace out the characters that are different in the 
package names and use the Tab button for auto completion again, then strike 
the Enter key again when you have the package name at the prompt. After this 
package installs and you are back at the command prompt type:

/sbin/lilo -v enter

When you have returned again to the command prompt you could cd /the directory 
you saved the NVidia run file in; which I assume is why you want to do this 
from init 3. It won't work since the NVidia modules will only install into 
the running kernel. To use the new kernel you installed you'll have to 
reboot, this is almost the only package install that requires this. Simplest 
way to do this from where you are is to use

Ctrl+D

this will exit the super user mode (it's a shortcut to exit) and type

reboot enter

You'll see all the shutdown messages. After the system reboots and is running 
the new kernel you can then run the NVidia installer from the directory you 
saved it to. If my assumption is correct and that's why you wanted to do the 
install at a console. If you arrived at init 3 from the reboot because you 
have the system set not to start X automatically just type

startx enter

after you log-in. If you didn't you'll need to take another step or two. Let 
the list know, OK?

Regards;
Charlie
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Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk
10:05:21 up 5 days, 19:54, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.34
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Re: [newbie] Installing kernel and kernel source.

2003-12-26 Per discussione Edward Wijaya
Hi Charlie,
Does this method works for GRUB as well?
Regards
Edward Wijaya
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:28:04 -0700, Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

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Thursday 25 December 2003 8:57 pm, Steven Nelson wrote:
Downloaded kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and
kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm from a Mandrake ftp server. I burned
them to a cd so that I can install them from init 3. Will somebody tell 
me
how to completely install those files from init 3?

  From,

Steven
Log in as you, then at the command prompt type
su
and provide the root password when requested to become super user. Then;
cd /mnt/cdrom enter
ls enter
You should see a list (ls) of the files/packages on the cdrom. At the 
prompt
type

urpmi kern(now strike the Tab button) and you should see the word
kernel
and a flashing cursor, plus the choices corresponding to the kernel and 
the
kernel-source. Pick the next two characters in the name of the package 
you
want to install first, hit the tab button to auto complete the command, 
and
strike Enter. After that package installs and you return to the command
prompt use the Up arrow on your keyboard to page back in the bash 
history to
the previous command, backspace out the characters that are different in 
the
package names and use the Tab button for auto completion again, then 
strike
the Enter key again when you have the package name at the prompt. After 
this
package installs and you are back at the command prompt type:

/sbin/lilo -v enter

When you have returned again to the command prompt you could cd /the 
directory
you saved the NVidia run file in; which I assume is why you want to do 
this
from init 3. It won't work since the NVidia modules will only install 
into
the running kernel. To use the new kernel you installed you'll have to
reboot, this is almost the only package install that requires this. 
Simplest
way to do this from where you are is to use

Ctrl+D

this will exit the super user mode (it's a shortcut to exit) and type

reboot enter

You'll see all the shutdown messages. After the system reboots and is 
running
the new kernel you can then run the NVidia installer from the directory 
you
saved it to. If my assumption is correct and that's why you wanted to do 
the
install at a console. If you arrived at init 3 from the reboot because 
you
have the system set not to start X automatically just type

startx enter

after you log-in. If you didn't you'll need to take another step or two. 
Let
the list know, OK?

Regards;
Charlie
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Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk
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Re: [newbie] Installing kernel and kernel source.

2003-12-26 Per discussione Charlie Mahan
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Saturday 27 December 2003 3:31 am, Edward Wijaya wrote:
 Hi Charlie,
 Does this method works for GRUB as well?

 Regards
 Edward Wijaya

The boot loader shouldn't make a difference Edward. The steps are the same, 
the only difference is Grub versus Lilo. Just be sure there's an image of the 
new kernel to use after the install and it should still work.

Regards;
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Re: [newbie] Installing kernel and kernel source.

2003-12-26 Per discussione Steven Nelson



From: Edward Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing kernel and kernel source.
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:31:48 -
Hi Charlie,
Does this method works for GRUB as well?
Regards
Edward Wijaya
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:28:04 -0700, Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

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Hash: SHA1
Thursday 25 December 2003 8:57 pm, Steven Nelson wrote:
Downloaded kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and
kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm from a Mandrake ftp server. I burned
them to a cd so that I can install them from init 3. Will somebody tell 
me
how to completely install those files from init 3?

  From,

Steven
Log in as you, then at the command prompt type
su
and provide the root password when requested to become super user. Then;
cd /mnt/cdrom enter
ls enter
You should see a list (ls) of the files/packages on the cdrom. At the 
prompt
type

urpmi kern(now strike the Tab button) and you should see the word
kernel
and a flashing cursor, plus the choices corresponding to the kernel and 
the
kernel-source. Pick the next two characters in the name of the package you
want to install first, hit the tab button to auto complete the command, 
and
strike Enter. After that package installs and you return to the command
prompt use the Up arrow on your keyboard to page back in the bash history 
to
the previous command, backspace out the characters that are different in 
the
package names and use the Tab button for auto completion again, then 
strike
the Enter key again when you have the package name at the prompt. After 
this
package installs and you are back at the command prompt type:

/sbin/lilo -v enter

When you have returned again to the command prompt you could cd /the 
directory
you saved the NVidia run file in; which I assume is why you want to do 
this
from init 3. It won't work since the NVidia modules will only install into
the running kernel. To use the new kernel you installed you'll have to
reboot, this is almost the only package install that requires this. 
Simplest
way to do this from where you are is to use

Ctrl+D

this will exit the super user mode (it's a shortcut to exit) and type

reboot enter

You'll see all the shutdown messages. After the system reboots and is 
running
the new kernel you can then run the NVidia installer from the directory 
you
saved it to. If my assumption is correct and that's why you wanted to do 
the
install at a console. If you arrived at init 3 from the reboot because you
have the system set not to start X automatically just type

startx enter

after you log-in. If you didn't you'll need to take another step or two. 
Let
the list know, OK?

Regards;
Charlie
- --
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Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk
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I don't know if this will help, I thought it might. I finished installing 
the kernel (kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm) and kernel-source 
(kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm) about an hour ago. I tried a different 
method then the one above and it worked fine. Installed the kernel and 
kernel-source by typing these commands in at the init 3, root command line.
rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
rpm -Uvh kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm

After they installed. I went to the /etc (still root) folder by using the 
command:
cd /etc
Then ran the command:
lilo -v
It configured a part of the lilo config file. Rebooted and everything was 
fine, the kernel and kernel-source were installed.

After the kernel and kernel-source were installed I installed the video 
driver. It built the customized kernel module, because the kernel and 
kernel-source were now installed. THe driver installed fine. Ran the config 
and the desktop loaded fine.

   From,

  Steven

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Re: [newbie] Installing kernel and kernel source.

2003-12-26 Per discussione Steven Nelson



From: Edward Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing kernel and kernel source.
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:31:48 -
Hi Charlie,
Does this method works for GRUB as well?
Regards
Edward Wijaya
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:28:04 -0700, Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

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Hash: SHA1
Thursday 25 December 2003 8:57 pm, Steven Nelson wrote:
Downloaded kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and
kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm from a Mandrake ftp server. I burned
them to a cd so that I can install them from init 3. Will somebody tell 
me
how to completely install those files from init 3?

  From,

Steven
Log in as you, then at the command prompt type
su
and provide the root password when requested to become super user. Then;
cd /mnt/cdrom enter
ls enter
You should see a list (ls) of the files/packages on the cdrom. At the 
prompt
type

urpmi kern(now strike the Tab button) and you should see the word
kernel
and a flashing cursor, plus the choices corresponding to the kernel and 
the
kernel-source. Pick the next two characters in the name of the package you
want to install first, hit the tab button to auto complete the command, 
and
strike Enter. After that package installs and you return to the command
prompt use the Up arrow on your keyboard to page back in the bash history 
to
the previous command, backspace out the characters that are different in 
the
package names and use the Tab button for auto completion again, then 
strike
the Enter key again when you have the package name at the prompt. After 
this
package installs and you are back at the command prompt type:

/sbin/lilo -v enter

When you have returned again to the command prompt you could cd /the 
directory
you saved the NVidia run file in; which I assume is why you want to do 
this
from init 3. It won't work since the NVidia modules will only install into
the running kernel. To use the new kernel you installed you'll have to
reboot, this is almost the only package install that requires this. 
Simplest
way to do this from where you are is to use

Ctrl+D

this will exit the super user mode (it's a shortcut to exit) and type

reboot enter

You'll see all the shutdown messages. After the system reboots and is 
running
the new kernel you can then run the NVidia installer from the directory 
you
saved it to. If my assumption is correct and that's why you wanted to do 
the
install at a console. If you arrived at init 3 from the reboot because you
have the system set not to start X automatically just type

startx enter

after you log-in. If you didn't you'll need to take another step or two. 
Let
the list know, OK?

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I don't know if this will help, I thought it might. I finished installing 
the kernel (kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm) and kernel-source 
(kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm) about an hour ago. I tried a different 
method then the one above and it worked fine. Installed the kernel and 
kernel-source by typing these commands in at the init 3, root command line.
rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
rpm -Uvh kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm

After they installed. I went to the /etc (still root) folder by using the 
command:
cd /etc
Then ran the command:
lilo -v
It configured a part of the lilo config file. Rebooted and everything was 
fine, the kernel and kernel-source were installed.

After the kernel and kernel-source were installed I installed the video 
driver. It built the customized kernel module, because the kernel and 
kernel-source were now installed. THe driver installed fine. Ran the config 
and the desktop loaded fine.

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[newbie] 2.6 kernel help

2003-12-22 Per discussione John Drouhard
I think I successfully compiled my own kernel. These are the steps I
followed:

1. download kernel
2. move it to the directory /usr/src/linux-2.6.0
3. do a make xconfig, choose my options, save, close.
4. make all
5. make modules_install
6. cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-2.6.0
7. add lilo.conf entry: 
image=/boot/bzImage-2.6.0
label=linux2.6
root=/dev/hdc5
append=noapic acpi=off
read-only
8. lilo

When I reboot into the new kernel, it goes pretty far until it tries to
mount the root fs. At this point it has an error:
Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on /dev/hdc5

This is a ReiserFS filesystem, and ReiserFS was built into the kernel.
Right before the error it seemed to be doing something with RAID, which
I don't have. Thanks for any suggestions.

John

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Re: [newbie] 2.6 kernel help

2003-12-22 Per discussione Manolo Canga
El Lunes, 22 de Diciembre de 2003 21:49, John Drouhard escribió:
 6. cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-2.6.0
 7. add lilo.conf entry:
 image=/boot/bzImage-2.6.0
   label=linux2.6
   root=/dev/hdc5
   append=noapic acpi=off
   read-only
 8. lilo

6,7 and 8  =  make install

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[newbie] mdk kernel enterprise src?

2003-12-03 Per discussione Lloyd D Budd
mdk-9.2 

I am trying to get a closed source (VPN client) kernel extension
working.  I would like to use kernel-enterprise-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk, but
I need the source.

I see there is
kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm  (39303204)
kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm (42200593)

I wonder about the size difference :-(

urpi only finds the 2nd.  I tried that one, but symbols unresolved.

http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/search.php?query=kernel-2.4.22.21mdk lists
the 1st, but attempting to install it, but it does not:

rpm -i kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm -vv
D: == kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm
D: Expected size: 39303204 =
lead(96)+sigs(264)+pad(0)+data(39302844)
D:   Actual size: 39303204
D: unshared posix mutexes found(38), adding DB_PRIVATE, using fcntl lock
D: opening  db environment /var/lib/rpm/Packages
create:cdb:mpool:private
D: opening  db index   /var/lib/rpm/Packages rdonly mode=0x0
D: locked   db index   /var/lib/rpm/Packages
D: opening  db index   /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys rdonly mode=0x0
D:  read h# 342 Header sanity check: OK
D: == DSA pubkey id 9aa8d0d022458a98
D: kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm: V3 DSA signature: OK, key ID
22458a98
D:  added source package [0]
D: found 1 source and 0 binary packages
D: Expected size: 39303204 =
lead(96)+sigs(264)+pad(0)+data(39302844)
D:   Actual size: 39303204
warning: user qateam does not exist - using root
warning: group qateam does not exist - using root
warning: user qateam does not exist - using root
warning: group qateam does not exist - using root
warning: user qateam does not exist - using root
warning: group qateam does not exist - using root
warning: user qateam does not exist - using root
warning: group qateam does not exist - using root
warning: user qateam does not exist - using root
warning: group qateam does not exist - using root
warning: user qateam does not exist - using root
warning: group qateam does not exist - using root
warning: user qateam does not exist - using root
warning: group qateam does not exist - using root
warning: user qateam does not exist - using root
warning: group qateam does not exist - using root
kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk
D: == Directories not explictly included in package:
D:  0 /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/
D:  1 /usr/src/RPM/SPECS/
D: ==
D: fini  100644  1 (   0,   0)  1324
/usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/README.Mandrake;3fce6c45
D: fini  100644  1 (   0,   0)  2948
/usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/README.kernel-sources;3fce6c45
D: fini  100644  1 (   0,   0)137112
/usr/src/RPM/SPECS/kernel-2.4.spec;3fce6c45
D: fini  100644  1 (   0,   0)   9651394
/usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/linux-2.4.22-q21.tar.bz2;3fce6c45
D: fini  100644  1 (   0,   0)  29528612
/usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/linux-2.4.22.tar.bz2;3fce6c45
D: fini  100644  1 (   0,   0)  3403
/usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/linux-mdkconfig.h;3fce6c45
D: fini  100644  1 (   0,   0)  7767
/usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/linux-merge-config.awk;3fce6c45
D: fini  100644  1 (   0,   0)  3081
/usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/linux-merge-modules.awk;3fce6c45
GZDIO:4802 reads, 39336828 total bytes in 2.004 secs
D: closed   db index   /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys
D: closed   db index   /var/lib/rpm/Packages
D: closed   db environment /var/lib/rpm/Packages


Am I barking up the wrong tree?

Cheers,
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Re: [newbie] new kernel and dvd drives. was: 9.2 and kernel sources...

2003-11-09 Per discussione Piero Piutti
Alle 23:09, sabato 8 novembre 2003, Piero Piutti ha scritto:
 Alle 17:20, sabato 8 novembre 2003, Derek Jennings ha scritto:
  I had the same issue. With that kernel some makes of DVD drive do not
  work with scsi emulation. Set it back to IDE and it should be OK

 mine is an Asus. still puzzled about how the new kernel fixed the LG issue
 but introduced this new one.

I reverted to the stock 9.2 kernel (2.4.22-10mdk) and the DVD drive 
functions correctly again, so there is definitely something wrong with the 
2.4.22-21mdk kernel not liking my Asus E612 dvd drive when it's scsi 
emulated.

I would like to report this inconvenience to the people in charge so that 
this can be fixed in the next kernel update, but I'm unaware of the correct 
procedure. Any suggestion?

Thanks for your patience.

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[newbie] new kernel and dvd drives. was: 9.2 and kernel sources...

2003-11-08 Per discussione Piero Piutti
Alle 17:20, sabato 8 novembre 2003, Derek Jennings ha scritto:
 I had the same issue. With that kernel some makes of DVD drive do not work
 with scsi emulation. Set it back to IDE and it should be OK

mine is an Asus. still puzzled about how the new kernel fixed the LG issue but 
introduced this new one.

anyway, I don't think I'll want to give up to scsi-emulation on the dvd drive 
as I need it to use it with k3b, so I think I'll get back to the 2.4.22-10mdk 
and wait for the 2.6 final to upgrade.

thanks for your help.

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[newbie-it] kernel panic

2003-11-07 Per discussione alfredo
Salve a tutti,
ho abbattuto la mia linubox con MDK in una maniera degna di un
deficiente, ho fatto una nuova partizione ext3 per installare un altro
SO, solo che poi invece che riavviare con il CD di boot ho riavviato il
PC normalmente e ho fatto partire MDK, meccanicamente.
Risultato: all'avvio appare:
Mounting root filesystem with flags noatime
VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev ide0(3,7)
mount error 22 mounting ext3 flags noatime
well, retrying without the option flags
ripete 2 volte queste righe in maniera pressappoco uguale, prova a
montare il filesystem in read-only
quindi il messaggio più terrificante:
kernel panic: no init found try passing init= option to kernel
Quindi:
prima di tutto ho installato l'altro SO di modo da dare un senso a
quella partizione Ext3 che avevo creato.
Ora vorrei ripristinare MDK,
direte voi: ce l'hai il floppy di boot con l'immagine del kernel per il
recupero? NO
ma posso accedere ai file di MDK da una Suse Live che funziona alla
grande, se si trattasse di ripristinare alcuni valori nei files che
operano nella fase doi boot del SO.
Grazie
Alfredo





Re: [newbie-it] kernel panic

2003-11-07 Per discussione Sandro
Alle 11:08, venerdì 7 novembre 2003, alfredo ha scritto:

[cut]

 Ora vorrei ripristinare MDK,
 direte voi: ce l'hai il floppy di boot con l'immagine del kernel per il
 recupero? NO
 ma posso accedere ai file di MDK da una Suse Live che funziona alla
 grande, se si trattasse di ripristinare alcuni valori nei files che
 operano nella fase doi boot del SO.

Ti basta il primo cd della mdk.
Avvi in modalità rescoue, modifichi o ripristini le impostazioni di lilo (se è 
questo il problema).
Puoi anche utilizzare un modo windowsiano, cioè fai una aggiornamento 
della mdk senza modificare niente. Alla fine ti ritrovi il s.o. funzionante 
come prima-
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[newbie] multimedia kernel

2003-10-19 Per discussione Anarky
   very soon now the 9.2 isos will be available for download for free  
I'll have a fresh new install ... my question is: I'm very tempted that 
from scratch I should start installing  configuring on the multimedia 
kernell ... now thing is ... I'm wondering what kind of improovements I 
could be expecting .. and if they're worth the risk of using the 
non-standard kernel (risc in stability I mean). Will application startup 
be faster? Or anythign like that? Somehow when reading on it I got the 
impression that the differences were only going to be felt if you do a 
lot of sound something ... like playing games or something ... do you 
think it will improove my regular desktop  interactivity  startup 
times on stuff like Thunderbird, k3b, krusader ... ?


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Re: [newbie] multimedia kernel

2003-10-19 Per discussione Tom Brinkman
On Sunday October 19 2003 05:31 am, Anarky wrote:
 very soon now the 9.2 isos will be available for download for
 free  I'll have a fresh new install ... my question is: I'm very
 tempted that from scratch I should start installing  configuring
 on the multimedia kernell ... now thing is ... I'm wondering what
 kind of improovements I could be expecting .. and if they're
 worth the risk of using the non-standard kernel (risc in
 stability I mean). Will application startup be faster? Or
 anythign like that? Somehow when reading on it I got the
 impression that the differences were only going to be felt if you
 do a lot of sound something ... like playing games or something
 ... do you think it will improove my regular desktop 
 interactivity  startup times on stuff like Thunderbird, k3b,
 krusader ... ?

I used several of the mm kernels. You won't see any difference 
unless you use your Linux box as a recording/editing sound studio. 
They do have the preempt and low latency patches, but then again so 
do all the other current desktop kernels.  The curent tmb kernels 
contain some additional patches which may be useful 
2.4.22-12.tmb.1mdk
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