[opensuse-factory] User Session automatic locking 10.2RC1

2006-11-26 Thread Keith Goggin
Hi,

Has anyone found a way to defeat the automatic inactivity locking of user 
sessions? I've tried Yast  SecurityUsers  User Management but nothing 
available there.
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[opensuse-factory] Re: Dummy Updates for Yast YOU

2006-11-26 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,

 1.I've added http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/suse/update/10.2/ to
   opensuseupdater in both 10.2b2 and 10.2RC1.

   In 10.2b2 opensuseupdater shows 7 patches available.

   In 10.2RC1 opensuseupdater shows none?

Yes, that's strange - we'll check.

 2.What happened to the dummy update I asked for back in September?

That's what we did - that's why you have updates in beta2.

 3.So far I've not seen any suggestion of how we might test Yast YOU /
   opensuseupdater / Zen. Bearing in mind that system updating was the 
 single
   biggest failure in SUSE10.1, I am more than a little puzzled that 
 nothing
   seems to have been done. 

We have created different updates for all the different cases we have,

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[opensuse-factory] ext3 external journal impossible?

2006-11-26 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
Anybody an idea why (unlike with xfs or reiserfs) I could not manage to
make an ext3 filesystem with external journal.
 After mkfs.ext3 -b 4096 -O /dev/sda5 /dev/hda7 I get: Unvollständige
Dateisystem-Option gesetzt: /dev/sda5
And after mke2fs -b 4096 -n -j -J device=/dev/hda7 /dev/sda5 I end up
with Filesystem has unexpected block size beim Versuch, das
Journal-Device /dev/hda7 zu öffnen at the very end of the process.
Also using tune2fs to convert:


little:/home/fmf # tune2fs -j /dev/sda5 -J device=/dev/hda7
tune2fs 1.39 (29-May-2006)
tune2fs: Filesystem has unexpected block size
beim Öffnen des Journals auf /dev/hda7

after making an ext2 filesystem fails.

What did I overlook here?

Appreciating any help

FMF
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Re: [opensuse-factory] ext3 external journal impossible?

2006-11-26 Thread Anders Johansson
On Sunday 26 November 2006 11:24, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote:
 Anders Johansson schrieb:
  On Sunday 26 November 2006 11:06, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote:
  Anybody an idea why (unlike with xfs or reiserfs) I could not manage to
  make an ext3 filesystem with external journal.
   After mkfs.ext3 -b 4096 -O /dev/sda5 /dev/hda7 I get: Unvollständige
  Dateisystem-Option gesetzt: /dev/sda5
 
  Did you create the journal device first, as the man page says?
 
  If you want to have the file system on /dev/sda7 and the journal on
  /dev/sda5, you would do
 
  mkfs.ext3 -O journal_dev /dev/sda5
 
  Then you can do
 
  mkfs.ext3 -j -J device=/dev/sda5 /dev/sda7

 According to my message, this is what I did:

 mkfs.ext3 -b 4096 -O /dev/sda5 /dev/hda7

I think you misunderstand the manpage. It should literally be journal_dev, 
that shouldn't be replaced with a device name.

If you want to have the journal on hda7, the command should be

mkfs.ext3 -b 4096 -O journal_dev /dev/hda7
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Re: [opensuse-factory] ext3 external journal impossible?

2006-11-26 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
Anders Johansson schrieb:

 I think you misunderstand the manpage. It should literally be journal_dev, 
 that shouldn't be replaced with a device name.

 If you want to have the journal on hda7, the command should be

 mkfs.ext3 -b 4096 -O journal_dev /dev/hda7
 

Right you are, thanks for the help, working now here!

FMF
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Re: [opensuse-factory] ext3 external journal impossible?

2006-11-26 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
Anders Johansson schrieb:


 I think you misunderstand the manpage. It should literally be journal_dev, 
 that shouldn't be replaced with a device name.

 If you want to have the journal on hda7, the command should be

 mkfs.ext3 -b 4096 -O journal_dev /dev/hda7

Interesting: now after external journalling working I found out that
using /dev/ram0 as journal device slows writing down a bit compared to
local journal or journal on another disk. Strange.

FMF

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ext3 external journal impossible?

2006-11-26 Thread Anders Johansson
On Sunday 26 November 2006 12:33, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote:
 Anders Johansson schrieb:
  I think you misunderstand the manpage. It should literally be
  journal_dev, that shouldn't be replaced with a device name.
 
  If you want to have the journal on hda7, the command should be
 
  mkfs.ext3 -b 4096 -O journal_dev /dev/hda7

 Interesting: now after external journalling working I found out that
 using /dev/ram0 as journal device slows writing down a bit compared to
 local journal or journal on another disk. Strange.

Using a ram disk as journal device is totally and utterly pointless. You might 
as well disable journalling completely then.

The whole idea of keeping a journal is to have a log of metadata changes in 
case of a crash. If this log is kept in ram, it will be gone, making it 
completely useless

I can't say why it should be slower, but since it shouldn't be used at all, it 
doesn't seem to matter much
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Partitioner..

2006-11-26 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Pascal Bleser schreef:
 Robby (M9.) wrote:
 How to change the size of a partition, fi /home?
 Partitions can only resized if not mounted...
 
 Depends.
 They can be resized online when you're using LVM and reiserfs (or XFS,
 but you can only grow XFS partitions, not shrink them).

If you did not use LVM to create partitions, you can NOT use it
afterwards..sorry.
 
 @volker:
 we seem to be part of the competition, since we are sold, but that
 doesn't matter..
 
 The partitioners we have are inferior, you have to admit that.
 
 Inferior to what ?
 Not to any Linux distribution I know of.

Inferior to fi Partition Magic.
 
 In this time, it is possible, to graphicly resize, move, delete or
 create partitions, and the real changes are made in between shut down
 and start-up.
 Why shouldn't this be possible for linux?
 
 It is.
 
 Why should we, in this time, stil calculate, by hand, for half an hour,
 or an hour, to get it right, with all the risks to loose the data you do
 not want to loose?
 
 huh? wtf are you doing ?
 
 Just use LVM in the first place.

I did not in the first place, so if i want to change something, i have
to delete everything, and start over, capice?
 
 cheers
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Re: [opensuse-factory] ext3 external journal impossible?

2006-11-26 Thread Robert Schiele
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 01:13:45PM +0100, Anders Johansson wrote:
 I can't say why it should be slower, but since it shouldn't be used at all, 
 it 
 doesn't seem to matter much

That depends on your point of view.  From a user's point of view this is
really pointless because it does not make any sense at all to use such a
scenario on any productive system.  For the developer of the code such
observations could be quite valuable because the process of finding an
explanation for such strange observations often uncover obscure bugs or design
issues.

Robert

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ext3 external journal impossible?

2006-11-26 Thread Anders Johansson
On Sunday 26 November 2006 14:01, Robert Schiele wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 01:13:45PM +0100, Anders Johansson wrote:
  I can't say why it should be slower, but since it shouldn't be used at
  all, it doesn't seem to matter much

 That depends on your point of view.  From a user's point of view this is
 really pointless because it does not make any sense at all to use such a
 scenario on any productive system.  For the developer of the code such
 observations could be quite valuable because the process of finding an
 explanation for such strange observations often uncover obscure bugs or
 design issues.

It could be as simple as the RAM disk taking up memory that would otherwise be 
used for buffering. Reducing the size of the buffers can cause substantial 
performance loss

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-26 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Carlos E. R. schreef:
 
 The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 20:15 +0100, Robby (M9.) wrote:
 
 This is needed indeed, the available partioning features are 'antique',
 and not realy usable during use, only when all is 'clean'.
 
 I have used many times the Yast partitioning module on a live system.

You are right, i will do it this way to.
But I find it is a workaround...
 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ext3 external journal impossible?

2006-11-26 Thread Robert Schiele
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 02:04:17PM +0100, Anders Johansson wrote:
 On Sunday 26 November 2006 14:01, Robert Schiele wrote:
  On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 01:13:45PM +0100, Anders Johansson wrote:
   I can't say why it should be slower, but since it shouldn't be used at
   all, it doesn't seem to matter much
 
  That depends on your point of view.  From a user's point of view this is
  really pointless because it does not make any sense at all to use such a
  scenario on any productive system.  For the developer of the code such
  observations could be quite valuable because the process of finding an
  explanation for such strange observations often uncover obscure bugs or
  design issues.
 
 It could be as simple as the RAM disk taking up memory that would otherwise 
 be 
 used for buffering. Reducing the size of the buffers can cause substantial 
 performance loss

Sure this might be an explanation depending on the detailed setup that was
done here.  But only explanations that you can _prove_ to be the cause of the
observation can eventually help uncovering a bug.  Just listing explanations
that _might_ be a cause could make a Sunday afternoon more entertaining but
don't help in any way in the respect of identifying problems.

Actually my point was not to force you providing an explanation but just to
state that you cannot claim an observation pointless just because it results
from a setup that does not make sense for production usage.

Robert

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Partitioner..

2006-11-26 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Mauro Parra schreef:
 Hallo,

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  The partitioners we have are inferior, you have to admit that.

 Inferior to what ?
 Not to any Linux distribution I know of.


 See Mandrake installer. The partition tool is totally sweet. Sometimes I
 still carry one disk 1 of mandrake, just to manipulate the disk's
 partitions.

 As I told M9 in other mail, there is some nice tools outside. Still, would
 be nice to have it on suse. ;)

You did, and I am going to investigate these tools, also Mandrake, thnx
guys for thinking with me  :)

 -M

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[opensuse-factory] ext3 140GB takes 23 min

2006-11-26 Thread Richard Bos
Is it normal that it takes 23 min to format a 140GB partitioan with ext3?  I 
can't remember that I encountered such long partitioning times with 
resiserfs.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ext3 external journal impossible?

2006-11-26 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
Robert Schiele schrieb:
 On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 01:13:45PM +0100, Anders Johansson wrote:
   
 I can't say why it should be slower, but since it shouldn't be used at all, 
 it 
 doesn't seem to matter much
 

 That depends on your point of view.  From a user's point of view this is
 really pointless because it does not make any sense at all to use such a
 scenario on any productive system.  For the developer of the code such
 observations could be quite valuable because the process of finding an
 explanation for such strange observations often uncover obscure bugs or design
 issues.

 Robert

   
Right, I wanted to find out the impact of journal device speed on
overall performance and had to learn: there is no useful
correlation.There is not even a reasonable performance difference
between internal and external journal on ext3. At least none that bonnie
would show.
FMF
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Re: [opensuse-factory] ext3 external journal impossible?

2006-11-26 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
Anders Johansson schrieb:
 On Sunday 26 November 2006 14:01, Robert Schiele wrote:
   
 On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 01:13:45PM +0100, Anders Johansson wrote:
 
 I can't say why it should be slower, but since it shouldn't be used at
 all, it doesn't seem to matter much
   
 That depends on your point of view.  From a user's point of view this is
 really pointless because it does not make any sense at all to use such a
 scenario on any productive system.  For the developer of the code such
 observations could be quite valuable because the process of finding an
 explanation for such strange observations often uncover obscure bugs or
 design issues.
 

 It could be as simple as the RAM disk taking up memory that would otherwise 
 be 
 used for buffering. Reducing the size of the buffers can cause substantial 
 performance loss
Not really in my case, only about 50% of memory in use including the
32MB ram disk.
FMF
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[opensuse-factory] Re: Factory source for Internet installation

2006-11-26 Thread Terje J. Hanssen

Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
I've downloaded and installed the CD isos for 10.2 RC1, both OSS and 
non-OSS. However there are some packages I need and that I don't find 
afterwards with YaSTProgramsAdd-Remove software.


These single rpms are however found in the factory links, but which 
have to be downloaded and installed manually from a terminal:
http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/ 

http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-Factory-non-oss/inst-source-extra/ 



Why isn't these sources added automatically to YaST at the 10.2 RC1 
installation?


I've tried to add them as Yast HTTP Installation sources, but without 
succeed so far (errors like a server name is needed or url path).


Therefor, what is the correct parts to be added as respective
server name?
url path?



Any suggestions?


Thanks,
Terje J. Hanssen



[opensuse-factory] video configuration - multiple modes and virtual size

2006-11-26 Thread jdd
I have problems with the sax2 configuration panel. this is 
not recent, but is still there in 10.2.


I don't see how I can manage to have several screen 
definition (640x480, 800x600...) or a virtual definition 
(800x600 on 640x480 screen)


of course, I know how to add this with vi :-).

the problem is quite unpleasant, mostly because it's bearly 
impossible to know what is the real size used by X - one 
need to go through xorg logs and they are not easy to read.


ity's not either possible to know what bit size is used (8 
bits, 16bits...).


so it's necessary to use edit/try, comment out all but one 
mode, until the result is done.


I remember the time where it was possible to do this with 
yast... before the sax interface change :-(


nota bene: may be this is specially a problem for me on this 
computer because the neomagic card/screen don't accept the 
xorg.conf file values. With only 800x600 configured 
(default), the gnome screen definition applet displays 
800x600, but the screen IS 640x480. It accepts 800x600 
virtual, but I have to do this manually.


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[opensuse-factory] RC1 installation

2006-11-26 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

I updated beta2 to RC1 yesterday.

Installation sources: Factory tree and inst-source-extra from yesterday, 
which should be newer than RC1.

Things I noted:

- grub is not installed - my system still boots the grub which was 
  installed by 10.1 (still living on another partition)

  relevant partitions: /dev/hda7: 10.2 RC1; /dev/hda5: 10.1 final

  /etc/grub.conf:
  install --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0,4)/boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) 
  (hd0,4)/boot/grub/stage2 0x8000 (hd0,4)/boot/grub/menu.lst
  install --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0,4)/boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,6) 
  (hd0,4)/boot/grub/stage2 0x8000 (hd0,6)/boot/grub/menu.lst
  quit

  Hmm, maybe I missed something when cloning hda5 to hda7...
  - Worth a bugreport?

- no online updates available (already mentioned in another thread)

- some other bugs which were fixed some days ago (like #222728, #220273, 
  #222478) did not hit Factory yet (aka yesterday, gwdg mirror).
  - How up to date is Factory currently?

The good news: I could verify several bugs as fixed :-)


Regards,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-26 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

Am Samstag, 25. November 2006 21:18 schrieb Robby (M9.):
 gpgkeys: key 5F9FD7E57E8BA438 not found on keyserver

BTW: Your GPG key still isn't available on the keyservers :-(

 I can not believe, that i am the only one, who thinks, that the
 available partitioners do not work.
 If you do not use LVM, you can not use it to make changes
 afterwards.. 

Huh?

 If you use LVM, you can not make changes afterwards... 

Huh? (I don't use LVM, but I would be _very_ surprised if this was 
true.)

 If you use the partitioner from yast, which i do, you are not able to
 throw away, and recreate partitions, 

This _is_ possible - and I did this (on a 10.1 system) successfully.

 simply because you can not see what you are doing.

Hmm, I had no problems - maybe you should provide more details (and/or 
upload some screenshots somewhere ;-)

 You can only make partitions smaller, not move or 
 resize a usable way.. it is not praktical to count all the cylinders,
 because than a simple transaction takes few hours, you have to
 calculate everything

Again: I don't really understand your problems, please provide more 
details and/or screenshots.

 Everybody who uses them, knows that it is true what i am saying,
 because it is.

Never say that you are everybody ;-)


Regards,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2

2006-11-26 Thread Andreas Jaeger

Thanks a lot for all your comments, I have refined my proposal now
taking them into account!

How does this look?  Are we fine to go for 10.2 and 10.3 with these?

Goals
=
* Clear naming
* Smaller repositories for faster metadata download
* Use structure for 10.3 again

Separate trees
==

* OSS (factory)
* NON-OSS (factory-extra)
* Debug (factory-debug)
* Sources for OSS
* Sources for NON-OSS

Naming
==
* let's use repository instead of catalog, inst-source etc.

FTP Structure
=

Below .../opensuse/distribution/ we will have a 10.2 with the
following subdirectories:
* iso
* repo

The iso subdirectory has the following subdirectories:
* delta - delta ISO images
* dvd - DVD5 iso images
* cd - CD iso images, contains Base CDs and Add-ons (including Non-OSS
  Addon)
* torrent (all torrent files)

The repo subdirectory has the following subdirectories:
* debug - repository with just debuginfo packages
* non-oss - repository with only Non-OSS packages
* oss - repository with only OSS packages
* src-non-oss - source RPMs for the non-oss tree
* src-oss - source RPMs for the oss tree

Factory Distribution


The factory tree should be separated in a similar way:

Below .../opensuse/distribution/ we will have a factory-repo with
the following subdirectories:

* debug - repository with just debuginfo packages
* non-oss - repository with only Non-OSS packages
* oss - repository with only OSS packages
* src-non-oss - source RPMs for the non-oss tree
* src-oss - source RPMs for the oss tree

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 installation

2006-11-26 Thread Juan Erbes

2006/11/26, Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hello,

I updated beta2 to RC1 yesterday.

Installation sources: Factory tree and inst-source-extra from yesterday,
which should be newer than RC1.



How has You made the update, online, or via CDs?
Because online I could'nt make the update.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2

2006-11-26 Thread Pascal Bleser
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Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Thanks a lot for all your comments, I have refined my proposal now
 taking them into account!
 
 How does this look?  Are we fine to go for 10.2 and 10.3 with these?

100% ACK

 Goals
 =
 * Clear naming
 * Smaller repositories for faster metadata download
 * Use structure for 10.3 again
 
 Separate trees
 ==
 
 * OSS (factory)
 * NON-OSS (factory-extra)
 * Debug (factory-debug)
 * Sources for OSS
 * Sources for NON-OSS
 
 Naming
 ==
 * let's use repository instead of catalog, inst-source etc.

Yes please, it will definitely help disambiguating.

It would also need to be changed in yast/rug/zypper/zmd, but that's
somewhat lower priority (and possibly a different topic).

 FTP Structure
 =
 
 Below .../opensuse/distribution/ we will have a 10.2 with the
 following subdirectories:
 * iso
 * repo
 
 The iso subdirectory has the following subdirectories:
 * delta - delta ISO images
 * dvd - DVD5 iso images
 * cd - CD iso images, contains Base CDs and Add-ons (including Non-OSS
   Addon)
 * torrent (all torrent files)
 
 The repo subdirectory has the following subdirectories:
 * debug - repository with just debuginfo packages
 * non-oss - repository with only Non-OSS packages
 * oss - repository with only OSS packages
 * src-non-oss - source RPMs for the non-oss tree
 * src-oss - source RPMs for the oss tree

Perfect.

 Factory Distribution
 
 
 The factory tree should be separated in a similar way:
 
 Below .../opensuse/distribution/ we will have a factory-repo with
 the following subdirectories:
 
 * debug - repository with just debuginfo packages
 * non-oss - repository with only Non-OSS packages
 * oss - repository with only OSS packages
 * src-non-oss - source RPMs for the non-oss tree
 * src-oss - source RPMs for the oss tree

All in all, much better like that.
Couldn't agree more.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2

2006-11-26 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 04:56:33PM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 
 Thanks a lot for all your comments, I have refined my proposal now
 taking them into account!
 
 How does this look?  Are we fine to go for 10.2 and 10.3 with these?
[...]

 
 Factory Distribution
 
 
 The factory tree should be separated in a similar way:
 
 Below .../opensuse/distribution/ we will have a factory-repo with
 the following subdirectories:

I would prefer 

factory/repo

although there might never be a factory/iso, it would keep the naming
within a consistent scheme.

 
 * debug - repository with just debuginfo packages
 * non-oss - repository with only Non-OSS packages
 * oss - repository with only OSS packages
 * src-non-oss - source RPMs for the non-oss tree
 * src-oss - source RPMs for the oss tree
 
 Andreas

Regards,
Marcel
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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2

2006-11-26 Thread Keith Goggin
On Monday 27 November 2006 02:56, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Thanks a lot for all your comments, I have refined my proposal now
 taking them into account!

I realise it's a bit late to comment now, but I am curious to know why you 
have not mentioned the update repositories in this proposal? 
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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 installation

2006-11-26 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

first: there's another issue: I could not register while update (None 
of the installed products can be registered at the Novell registration 
server.)
- bugreport?

Am Sonntag, 26. November 2006 17:02 schrieb Juan Erbes:
 2006/11/26, Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Installation sources: Factory tree and inst-source-extra from
  yesterday, which should be newer than RC1.

 How has You made the update, online, or via CDs?
 Because online I could'nt make the update.

I have mirrored Factory and -extra (with several --exclude's) and added 
the install kernel and initrd to my grub menu.
http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_without_CD


Regards,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Dummy Updates for Yast YOU

2006-11-26 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar
On Sunday 26 November 2006 17:25, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
 Only opensuseupdater is concerned by the problem. YOU shows the
 available test patches. I did installation without Zenworks and can
 confirm the problem.

Can you guys please:

- open a bugreport

run as root:
zypp-checkpatches  result.xml

and  save the resulting xml.

Send also /var/lib/zypp/cache/updates_*

also:

ZYPP_LOGFILE=log.txt zypp-checkpatches

and send log.txt

(attach to the bug), then let me know the bug number

Thanks
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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 installation

2006-11-26 Thread Andras Mantia
On Sunday 26 November 2006 17:37, Christian Boltz wrote:
 - grub is not installed - my system still boots the grub which was
   installed by 10.1 (still living on another partition)

Possibly bug #223576?

Andras

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Factory source for Internet installation

2006-11-26 Thread rmyster
On Sunday 26 November 2006 08:11, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
 
  These single rpms are however found in the factory links, but which
  have to be downloaded and installed manually from a terminal:
  http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-sou
 rce/
 
  http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-Factory-non-oss/inst
 -source-extra/
 
 
Don't use the opensuse.org links for your installation source urls since the 
bandwidth is severly restricted.  If you need to add a factory mirror, go to 
http://en.opensuse.org/Factory_Mirror_List and choose a mirror that's close 
to you. 

  Why isn't these sources added automatically to YaST at the 10.2 RC1
  installation?
 
Unknown, maybe because it's a test release or a geographical issue.

  I've tried to add them as Yast HTTP Installation sources, but without
  succeed so far (errors like a server name is needed or url path).
 
  Therefor, what is the correct parts to be added as respective
  server name?
  url path?

 Any suggestions?


Yast2 --- Installation source --- add --- specific url ---
and in the url box enter something like
ftp://closest_mirror/pub/mirrors/opensuse/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse

where closest_mirror is one of the mirrors closest to you.  The actual full 
path may differ depending on the mirror but if you point to the directory 
that contains the repodata directory(usually suse), it should install ok.  
If it just hangs for an extended period it may be due to low bandwidth from 
the mirror and you may need to try an alternative.  

Also, if you use the add local directory option and check the iso image box, 
you can browse to the iso image you may have used to burn the cds or dvd and 
add it as an installation source.  This saves you from having to insert the 
disk(s) each time you want to add packages from it.  Granted, this won't help 
for packages only present on the factory mirrors  elsewhere but it will save 
you from wasting bandwidth for any package already present on the 
installation disk(s).

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 installation

2006-11-26 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

Am Sonntag, 26. November 2006 18:14 schrieb Andras Mantia:
 On Sunday 26 November 2006 17:37, Christian Boltz wrote:
  - grub is not installed - my system still boots the grub which was
    installed by 10.1 (still living on another partition)

 Possibly bug #223576?

I don't think so for several reasons:
- only one harddisk
- booting works (with the old grub from 10.1)
- 10.2's grub was obviously not even installed (your bugreport sounds 
  like it was)
- mixing things up in a way that exactly meets the 10.1 state from the 
  other partition would be a bit too lucky ;-)


Regards,

Christian Boltz

PS: I see the update-test-trivial update again in both opensuse-updater 
and YOU after I have re-enabled the update source (side effect of 
the failed registration)
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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2

2006-11-26 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Andreas Jaeger schreef:
 Thanks a lot for all your comments, I have refined my proposal now
 taking them into account!
 
 How does this look?  Are we fine to go for 10.2 and 10.3 with these?
 
 Goals
 =
 * Clear naming
 * Smaller repositories for faster metadata download
 * Use structure for 10.3 again
 
 Separate trees
 ==
 
 * OSS (factory)
 * NON-OSS (factory-extra)
 * Debug (factory-debug)
 * Sources for OSS
 * Sources for NON-OSS
 
 Naming
 ==
 * let's use repository instead of catalog, inst-source etc.
 
 FTP Structure
 =
 
 Below .../opensuse/distribution/ we will have a 10.2 with the
 following subdirectories:
 * iso
 * repo
 
 The iso subdirectory has the following subdirectories:
 * delta - delta ISO images
 * dvd - DVD5 iso images
 * cd - CD iso images, contains Base CDs and Add-ons (including Non-OSS
   Addon)
 * torrent (all torrent files)
 
 The repo subdirectory has the following subdirectories:
 * debug - repository with just debuginfo packages
 * non-oss - repository with only Non-OSS packages
 * oss - repository with only OSS packages
 * src-non-oss - source RPMs for the non-oss tree
 * src-oss - source RPMs for the oss tree
 
 Factory Distribution
 
 
 The factory tree should be separated in a similar way:
 
 Below .../opensuse/distribution/ we will have a factory-repo with
 the following subdirectories:
 
 * debug - repository with just debuginfo packages
 * non-oss - repository with only Non-OSS packages
 * oss - repository with only OSS packages
 * src-non-oss - source RPMs for the non-oss tree
 * src-oss - source RPMs for the oss tree
 
 Andreas

Looks totaly allright for me.. :)
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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 installation

2006-11-26 Thread Anders Johansson
On Sunday 26 November 2006 18:25, Christian Boltz wrote:
 Hello,

 Am Sonntag, 26. November 2006 18:14 schrieb Andras Mantia:
  On Sunday 26 November 2006 17:37, Christian Boltz wrote:
   - grub is not installed - my system still boots the grub which was
     installed by 10.1 (still living on another partition)
 
  Possibly bug #223576?

 I don't think so for several reasons:
 - only one harddisk
 - booting works (with the old grub from 10.1)
 - 10.2's grub was obviously not even installed (your bugreport sounds
   like it was)
 - mixing things up in a way that exactly meets the 10.1 state from the
   other partition would be a bit too lucky ;-)

10.1 installed grub to the /boot partition, and made it active. The MBR boots 
the active partition. Your 10.2 install could have installed grub to 
its /boot partition and never made it active. This could be why it doesn't 
show.

To test this, start fdisk and make your 10.2 partition active, and reboot
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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2

2006-11-26 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 How does this look?  Are we fine to go for 10.2 and 10.3 with these?
 Goals
 =
 * Clear naming
 * Smaller repositories for faster metadata download
 * Use structure for 10.3 again
 Separate trees
 ==
 * OSS (factory)
 * NON-OSS (factory-extra)
 * Debug (factory-debug)
 * Sources for OSS
 * Sources for NON-OSS

 Naming
 ==
 * let's use repository instead of catalog, inst-source etc.

 FTP Structure
 =
 Below .../opensuse/distribution/ we will have a 10.2 with the
 following subdirectories:
 * iso
 * repo

 The iso subdirectory has the following subdirectories:
 * delta - delta ISO images
 * dvd - DVD5 iso images
 * cd - CD iso images, contains Base CDs and Add-ons (including Non-OSS
   Addon)
 * torrent (all torrent files)

 The repo subdirectory has the following subdirectories:
 * debug - repository with just debuginfo packages
 * non-oss - repository with only Non-OSS packages
 * oss - repository with only OSS packages
 * src-non-oss - source RPMs for the non-oss tree
 * src-oss - source RPMs for the oss tree

 Factory Distribution
 
 The factory tree should be separated in a similar way:

 Below .../opensuse/distribution/ we will have a factory-repo with
 the following subdirectories:

 * debug - repository with just debuginfo packages
 * non-oss - repository with only Non-OSS packages
 * oss - repository with only OSS packages
 * src-non-oss - source RPMs for the non-oss tree
 * src-oss - source RPMs for the oss tree

I really like it.  I only wish we could shorten distribution to dist.

Thanks,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: congratulations...

2006-11-26 Thread Rajko M
On Sunday 26 November 2006 09:13, jdd wrote:
 jdd a écrit :
  I want to congratulate the openSUSE 10.2 developpers, because I'm on the
  way of installing the RC1 on a very low end machine
 
  http://fr.opensuse.org/Utilisateur:Jdd/alb/La_Mouette

 finally the install goes well and gnome run quite well.

 I mention it because it's very interesting to have an
 uptodate OS running on a 7 years old computer.

 thanks all
 jdd

Jean,

have you put that on MiniSUSE page?
People are looking for smaller SUSE. (MiniSUSE 8,388 views)
I plan to see how works advice in 
  http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_with_Little_Memory

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: congratulations...

2006-11-26 Thread jdd

Rajko M a écrit :


have you put that on MiniSUSE page?


wasn't, but is now :-)

I advocate for a new Linuw advertisements:

If you buy Vista, for sure you need a brand new computer. 
Please, give me the old one, I need it to install my brand 
new openSUSE...


or

If you buy Vista, for sure you need a brand new computer. 
Better use the brand new openSUSE on the old one and keep 
your money for the very last ipod or the new large flat 
screen TV...


:-))

jdd

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[opensuse-factory] 10.2 RC1 YaST2 Online-Update Error and Zen updates

2006-11-26 Thread Terje J. Hanssen
Running a 10.2RC1 YaST2 Online-Update, I'm wondering what this error
message mean and what the reason is:

Initializing online-updates
Updating sources .

No access to Installation medium SUSE-Linux-10.2-Updates CD1
Verify that the server is available
Address
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2

Curl error for:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2/repodata/repomd.xml: Error code:
Unrecognized error Error message: FTP response reading failed


Doing a testing with the browser, I had no problem to connect to
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2

Well, I selected OK, and this time the online update process continued
without more Error. There wasn't however currently any online updates
available.

At the same time the orange Zen ikon reports there are 559 software
updates available!?

Therefore I wonder.
What are the difference between the type of updates that does come with
YaST2 online updates and those updates that come through Zen?

Terje J. Hanssen









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Re: [opensuse-factory] Test for Online Update (RC1)

2006-11-26 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
Marcus Meissner schrieb:
 On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 08:32:51PM +0100, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
   
 opensuseupdater shows me no updates. What am I doing wrong?
 

 There are no new updates for RC1 yet.
   

I've just installed another 11 updates, like an hour ago.

FMF

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Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2 RC1 YaST2 Online-Update Error and Zen updates

2006-11-26 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 09:45:23PM +0100, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
 Running a 10.2RC1 YaST2 Online-Update, I'm wondering what this error
 message mean and what the reason is:
 
 Initializing online-updates
 Updating sources .
 
 No access to Installation medium SUSE-Linux-10.2-Updates CD1
 Verify that the server is available
 Address
 ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2
 
 Curl error for:
 ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2/repodata/repomd.xml: Error code:
 Unrecognized error Error message: FTP response reading failed
 
 
 Doing a testing with the browser, I had no problem to connect to
 ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2
 
 Well, I selected OK, and this time the online update process continued
 without more Error. There wasn't however currently any online updates
 available.
 
 At the same time the orange Zen ikon reports there are 559 software
 updates available!?
 
 Therefore I wonder.
 What are the difference between the type of updates that does come with
 YaST2 online updates and those updates that come through Zen?

ftp.suse.com is overloaded, which I guess this is the reason for above
errors.

Please use a mirror.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Test for Online Update (RC1)

2006-11-26 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 08:00:49PM +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 08:32:51PM +0100, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
  opensuseupdater shows me no updates. What am I doing wrong?
 
 There are no new updates for RC1 yet.

2 now:
- fetchmsttfonts script for TrueType fonts.
- libzypp 3rd test update

kernel will follow when ready.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 installation

2006-11-26 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

Am Sonntag, 26. November 2006 17:34 schrieb Anders Johansson:
[...]
 10.1 installed grub to the /boot partition, and made it active. The
 MBR boots the active partition. Your 10.2 install could have
 installed grub to its /boot partition and never made it active. This
 could be why it doesn't show.

 To test this, start fdisk and make your 10.2 partition active, and
 reboot

I guess that's pointless because my 10.1 grub lives in the MBR.

Nevertheless, I'll make the 10.2 partition active - but I will replace 
the reboot by shutdown, sleep, boot ;-) so I will report back tomorrow.


Regards,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Dummy Updates for Yast YOU

2006-11-26 Thread Keith Goggin
On Monday 27 November 2006 04:04, Duncan Mac-Vicar wrote:
 On Sunday 26 November 2006 17:25, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
  Only opensuseupdater is concerned by the problem. YOU shows the
  available test patches. I did installation without Zenworks and can
  confirm the problem.

 Can you guys please:

 - open a bugreport

Done #223814

 run as root:
 zypp-checkpatches  result.xml

 and  save the resulting xml.

 Send also /var/lib/zypp/cache/updates_*

 also:

 ZYPP_LOGFILE=log.txt zypp-checkpatches

 and send log.txt

 (attach to the bug), then let me know the bug number

Done (above)
 
 Thanks
 Duncan
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Dummy Updates for Yast YOU

2006-11-26 Thread Juan Erbes

2006/11/26, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,

 1.I've added http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/suse/update/10.2/ to
   opensuseupdater in both 10.2b2 and 10.2RC1.

   In 10.2b2 opensuseupdater shows 7 patches available.

   In 10.2RC1 opensuseupdater shows none?

Yes, that's strange - we'll check.

 2.What happened to the dummy update I asked for back in September?

That's what we did - that's why you have updates in beta2.

 3.So far I've not seen any suggestion of how we might test Yast YOU /
   opensuseupdater / Zen. Bearing in mind that system updating was the 
single
   biggest failure in SUSE10.1, I am more than a little puzzled that 
nothing
   seems to have been done.

We have created different updates for all the different cases we have,



I use for smart and YOU the repo
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/
and the packages from my system are from beta 2, and smart and YOU,
dont show any package for update, and in YOU apper about 70% of the
packages in red, such as the packages from the repo are a version
older than the I have in my system.
I mean the metadata from the repo
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/
is from beta 1.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Test for Online Update (RC1)

2006-11-26 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
Marcus Meissner schrieb:
 On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 08:00:49PM +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote:
   
 On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 08:32:51PM +0100, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
 
 opensuseupdater shows me no updates. What am I doing wrong?
   
 There are no new updates for RC1 yet.
 

 2 now:
 - fetchmsttfonts script for TrueType fonts.
 - libzypp 3rd test update

 kernel will follow when ready.

Started libzypp 3rd test update about one hour ago. Now it's hanging for
a while at 99% - updating software - finishing...

 What are we testing here? The bandwidth of the update server?

FMF

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Test for Online Update (RC1)

2006-11-26 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
Marcus Meissner schrieb:

 Started libzypp 3rd test update about one hour ago. Now it's hanging for
 a while at 99% - updating software - finishing...

  What are we testing here? The bandwidth of the update server?
 

 I used yast online update to test. If you used ZMD/zen-updater and it hangs
 please open a bugreport.

 (And it downloaded delta and patch rpms for me, so not much bandwith).
   


  Bug 223828 Submitted

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2

2006-11-26 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Monday 27 November 2006 02:56, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Thanks a lot for all your comments, I have refined my proposal now
 taking them into account!

 I realise it's a bit late to comment now, but I am curious to know why you 
 have not mentioned the update repositories in this proposal? 

They're currently on ftp.suse.com and we haven't decided on migrating
them over...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2

2006-11-26 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
 Naming
 ==
 * let's use repository instead of catalog, inst-source etc.

This is the one I like best :)

 Below .../opensuse/distribution/ we will have a factory-repo with
 the following subdirectories:

Keep it symmetric and use factory/repo/ instead, as already suggested.

Nothing else that I can think of. Thanks Andreas,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2

2006-11-26 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Sunday 26 November 2006 17:22 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger:
 On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 04:56:33PM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
  Thanks a lot for all your comments, I have refined my proposal now
  taking them into account!
 
  How does this look?  Are we fine to go for 10.2 and 10.3 with these?

 [...]

  Factory Distribution
  
 
  The factory tree should be separated in a similar way:
 
  Below .../opensuse/distribution/ we will have a factory-repo with
  the following subdirectories:

 I would prefer

 factory/repo

 although there might never be a factory/iso, it would keep the naming
 within a consistent scheme.

Actually, I do not want to touch the factory directories atm, because we will 
anyway move them into the build service later. Changing it for that timeframe 
does only cause problems IMHO.

bye
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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2

2006-11-26 Thread Peter Czanik

Hello,

Adrian Schröter wrote:
Actually, I do not want to touch the factory directories atm, because we will 
anyway move them into the build service later. Changing it for that timeframe 
does only cause problems IMHO.
  
What does it mean for PPC users? No more 'factory', or there will be PPC 
buildservice soon? Bye,


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Re: [opensuse] GRUB error - can anyone help please?

2006-11-26 Thread rmyster
  The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 20:47 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
  Suddenly I cannot boot into 10.1 with GRUB coming up with, Error 18
  as soon as it starts to execute on bootup.
 
  Does anyone know what this error means and how to get grub working
  correctly again?
 
  info grub, Troubleshooting, Stage2 errors:
  | 18 : Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
  |  This error is returned when a read is attempted at a linear
  | block address beyond the end of the BIOS translated area. This
  | generally happens if your disk is larger than the BIOS can handle
  | (512MB for (E)IDE disks on older machines or larger than 8GB in
  | general).

  Can you view the menu.lst file at the grub prompt(grub) and do the
  entries match your current  partitioning setup?
 
  grub cat (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst

 Yes.

  where (hd0,0) represents (drive#,partition#) with numbering starting at
  zero and pointing to the partition holding menu.lst which should be your
  separate boot partition assuming grub was installed there originally and
  not to the root partition. (hd0,0) would point to the 1st partition on
  the 1st drive. (hd1,3) would point to the 4th partition on the second
  drive, etc...
 
  grub geometry (hdx)
 
  will show existing partitions(x=0,1,2 etc.) .

 Geometry OK. All partitions correctly shown (both HDs, btw).

  Can you boot from the grub prompt manually?
 
  ie.
  grub root (hdx,x)

 This is OK.

  grub kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hdx other options

 This is OK.

  grub initrd /initrd

 This comes up with an error, Error 28: Selected item cannot fit into
 memory which is a bit strange as I have 1.5GB of RAM and even right at
 the moment I have 58.5MB free.

  grub boot

 Of course this does not happen :-) .


 What does all of the above mean? Do I need a grease and oil change or a
 new set of spark plugs? :-)

On Saturday 25 November 2006 21:33, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
 Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
  It would be basically
  grub, then root (hd0,8), then setup (hd0), which should find everything
  and install it, the quit to leave grub, exit to leave the chroot, then
  shutdown -r now to reboot and check.  HTH.

 One more idea, since at least once it appeared you had a problem with
 the initrd, while you are in the chroot, you could rerun the mkinitrd
 command and make sure it finishes without error.  HTH.


As Joe suggests, rerunning mkinitrd is worth a try based on what you see.  
After the upgrade to beta1, I ran into a case where the upgrade somehow 
removed the initrd image completely and had to recreate it.  Using the 
installation disk allowed me to boot the system even with this image missing. 
If you haven't already done something else that would render this next 
portion nonapplicable, try the following after booting into the system w/ the 
installation disk to create a new initrd image:

cd /boot
mv initrd-2.6.18.2-4-default  initrd-2.6.18.2-4-default.notworking.old
Modify 2.6.18.2-4-default above(10.2 beta2 version) to match your current 
version which you can view with the output of uname -a.

rm initrd   (or  mv initrd initrd.notworking.old)

mkinitrd -k vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-4-default -i initrd-2.6.18.2-4-default
(your new initd-2.6.18.2-4 image should now be present)

and/or  for the xen image
mkinitrd -k vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-4-xen -i initrd-2.6.18.2-4-xen

Note that running just 'mkinitrd' with no options will create the default 
image that matches your current kernel vmlinuz image.

recreate symbolic link(s)
ln -s /boot/initrd-2.6.18.x-y /boot/initrd   
where 2.6.18.x-y above is the version number you just created

Verify that the symbolic links named /boot/initrd  /boot/vmlinuz point to 
matching version numbers .

# ll initrd
 initrd - initrd-2.6.18.2-4-default

and confirm that this version matches the vmlinuz image version
# ll vmlinuz
 vmlinuz - vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-4-default

You could also check for matching versions this before rerunning mkinitrd and 
if they don't match, it might be  the problem.







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Re: [opensuse] Dddddooppplicating keys

2006-11-26 Thread David Bottrill
On Sunday 26 November 2006 06:38, John Andersen wrote:
 On Saturday 25 November 2006 21:23, M Harris wrote:
  On Thursday 23 November 2006 23:46, John Andersen wrote:
   Any one else seeing this?
 
  Yes... its a problem (to some extent) on every suse distro... but mostly
  I see it on my laptop   ThinkPad R30...   but also on the desk...
  I too notice that turning off auto-repeat takes care of it.
  It is NOT a keyboard issue...  is a timing issue... key-release is not
  being seen...

 I think if it were as common as you say more people would be chirping in
 here.  So far, it seems mostly limited to smp machines.

 I've never seen this on any prior suse release, except sometime around
 one of the 7.x releases.

I too have this problem with all recent versions of suse. I always assumed it 
was a problem with my wireless keyboard. Mostly I find it's the P key that 
repeats.

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Re: [opensuse] can anyone help to configure a fully-qualified hostname in sendmail?

2006-11-26 Thread Sandy Drobic

Mike Noble wrote:


Sandy Drobic wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 13:55 -0800, Mike Noble wrote:


I realize that both are supported, but Postfix is installed by
default.

We can change the default, and the OP has a problem with sendmail.
Even if postfix is easier, that does not help him.

I always advocate Postfix as the better alternative, but Carlos is
right. This isn't helping the OP.


Actually I hate Postfix and have used Sendmail for over 15 years.
What I was trying to say was that maybe he has them confused.


Agreed, he did sound a bit baffled. (^-°)

Glad to see that some people here are using Sendmail and are willing to 
offer help.


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Re: [opensuse] SuSE tainted

2006-11-26 Thread Basil Chupin

Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:

On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:38 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:


Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:

On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:03 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

Proof by accusation and innuendo doesn't hold much sway anywhere,
except in a campaign of FUD.


And when deciding to invade nations like Iraq.



U.S. politics should NOT be injected into this conversation .. that 
DOES belong on the OT list. It inflames people to much and has not a 
bloody thing to do with Microsoft, SUSE, or Linux. Please people .. 
let us not devolve into stupidity.


A bit sensitive about it, aren't we? Australia and others are also in 
there - and I live in Australia.


Not sensitive at all. Just trying to keep the conversation from 
devolving into crap. My politics are well known on the suse-ot list 
where this type of thing belongs.


Yep, you're right. We'll just stick to the old and trusted M$/N$ bashing 
:-) .


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Re: [opensuse] can anyone help to configure a fully-qualified hostname in sendmail?

2006-11-26 Thread Sandy Drobic

Mike Noble wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 17:37 -0800, Mike Noble wrote:



Actually I hate Postfix and have used Sendmail for over 15 years.
What I was trying to say was that maybe he has them confused.
I did send the OP a direct reply (forgot reply to was not set
to list) telling him make changes to sendmail.
Could you post those changes here, just for the record? Even if I don't 
use sendmail now, I like to learn. :-)




One of the best places to information about sendmail is to go to:
http://sendmail.org/


I was also hoping for a bit more specific advice. For Postfix the 
procedure would be:


servername: www
domain: example.com

as root:
postconf -e myhostname = www.example.com
postfix reload

If you've got some strange setup where you don't want to use the hostname 
as HELO, you can set the helo name of the server with:


postconf -e smtp_helo_name = mail.example.com
postfix reload

The default of smtp_helo_name is $myhostname:
# postconf -d smtp_helo_name
smtp_helo_name = $myhostname

So usually it's not neccessary.

I tried to find the information on the sendmail.org site, but didn't find 
anything useful within a few minutes. Do you have a more specific link for 
basic Sendmail setup including hostname?



To setup DNS for private address space, you can find at:
http://sendmail.org/tips/private-dns/

Of course private address space was never mentioned, I'm just
assuming that he does not have valid IP and that all internal
IP addresses are being NAT'd to a valid IP address on the internet.


Judging from the hostname www that he used he is probably trying to send 
mail from a webserver using the local Sendmail installation. So he 
probably has an official IP (and hopefully correctly set up dns and 
reverse dns).


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Re: [opensuse] Order of Hard Disks

2006-11-26 Thread Jan Engelhardt

I need to change the order of hard disks to /dev/sdb, /dev/sda, /dev/sdc
in Booting section.

Use /dev/disk if possible.


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Re: [opensuse] Yast update log location?

2006-11-26 Thread Sandy Drobic

Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC) wrote:

Hi,

I would like to find out where/what file I can look to find out if the 
system has done an online update as it has been enabled to check on a 
daily basis. The reason is so that I can then make a copy of the updated 
RPM's/deltas/patches in /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/i386/update/9.2/ folder.


You problably should spend the effort to change to a supported version of 
Suse. The Announcement that Suse 9.2 is no longer supported with updates 
came last week.


Have a look at /var/lib/YaST2/you/youlog

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Re: [opensuse] Dddddooppplicating keys

2006-11-26 Thread John Andersen
On Sunday 26 November 2006 00:45, David Bottrill wrote:
 I too have this problem with all recent versions of suse. I always assumed
 it was a problem with my wireless keyboard. Mostly I find it's the P key
 that repeats.

In my case, and Claton's case its any key, at any time.

In my case its never restricted to any single key.  I can get three
different key doubles in the same word, and its not just doubles,
I've seen as many as 7 or 8.

My keyboard is built in (laptop), but at least you can borrow a ps2
keyboard to test with, maybe it is your P key.

Just now running Sabayon Linux live dvd (gentoo derivative)
on x86_64 core 2 Duo machine (smp)
and finding no duplication of keys at all.

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Re: [opensuse] SuSE tainted

2006-11-26 Thread Kevin Donnelly
On Sunday 26 November 2006 03:48, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
 The best way to accelerate Bruce Perens is to give him a computer running
 Windows.

ROFL!

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Re: [opensuse] Dddddooppplicating keys

2006-11-26 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 21:38 -0900, John Andersen wrote:

 I think if it were as common as you say more people would be chirping in
 here.  So far, it seems mostly limited to smp machines.

I said already that I saw that once in my machine, a week ago, and it's 
not and SMP.

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Re: [opensuse] SuSE tainted

2006-11-26 Thread Fred A. Miller
On Saturday 25 November 2006 14:22, Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
 On Nov 25, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
  The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 10:55 -0600, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
  so do tell, what is this list for then?
 
  Discussions about suse/novell linux. In my opinion, discussions
  about the
  future of that is more or less on topic, even if I dislike the tone of
  some of them.
 
  Complaining will not make them go away, but rather, will increase the
  number of disccusions and the noise.

 After close to 9 years on this list and hundreds of thousands of
 emails answer and sent .. I find the deal between SuSe (I'm an old
 fart, so leave me alone) and Microsoft VERY relevant to the future of
 what I will support and use. I remember quite well Microsoft crushing
 my beloved OS/2 with their bull and FUD. I don't want it to

A VERY sore point for a number of us who were working with systems for close 
to 30 yrs. I'm just an old goat, and it's true you're an old fart! ;)

 happen again to Linux. Believe the PHB's out there pay more attention
 to Microsoft paid pundits there we would believe. If they start
 seeing stuff like what Ballmer put forth .. they will shy away from
 Linux. This we can NOT have. So if Novell makes bad decisions that
 could effect my livelihood .. then by damn I want to know what they
 are. And if Novell has to be relegated to a bit player in the
 computing world .. so be it. It's not about SUSE, SuSE or SuSe ..
 it's about Linux and other GNU software.

Correct!!

 Not one person here can accuse me of being a Chicken Little or having
 an agenda. I've used SUSE since 4.1 and even worked for SUSE in
 Oakland. I want them around just as much as anyone else, but I won't
 have their parent company making shit decisions that in danger Linux.
 All Microsoft has to bloody do is release their specs for things such
 as SMB, NTFS and other such things .. the FOSS developers will do the
 rest to make them work together better. We don't need an agreement
 for better operability .. that crap.

Right again!

 Anyway. The deal that Novell and Microsoft signed is very much ON 
 topic. And if you people want to get back to the way this list was ..
 I'd agree that actually answering questions instead of RTFM or check
 the archives would be the way to go. This list hasn't been very great
 for information in quite a few years. I wish we could have it back,
 but I doubt that will happen.

It's a MAJOR issue of mammoth proportions that isn't just going to go away on 
it's own, nor dissappear if ignored.

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Re: [opensuse] Dddddooppplicating keys

2006-11-26 Thread Sandy Drobic

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 21:38 -0900, John Andersen wrote:


I think if it were as common as you say more people would be chirping in
here.  So far, it seems mostly limited to smp machines.


I said already that I saw that once in my machine, a week ago, and it's 
not and SMP.


Hyperthreading?

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Re: [opensuse] can anyone help to configure a fully-qualified hostname in sendmail?

2006-11-26 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Sunday 2006-11-26 at 11:15 +0100, Sandy Drobic wrote:

 Judging from the hostname www that he used he is probably trying to send
 mail from a webserver using the local Sendmail installation. So he probably
 has an official IP (and hopefully correctly set up dns and reverse dns).

Yes, that's right. We told him (in the Spanish list) to check using 
http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=tudominio.es. He had 
a problem with the reverse dns and said later that had spoken with his ISP 
and solved that. So that side should be correct. Another time he mentioned 
being able to receive emails, so that means he does have an MX register.

Pity reliable crystal balls are so expensive nowdays ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] GRUB error - can anyone help please?

2006-11-26 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Sunday 2006-11-26 at 14:01 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:


  Check that file, perhaps it is broken somehow. Usually, /boot/initrd is a
  symlink, so check the link and the destination. Also, you can try to expand
  it on a temporary dir, it is gzipped.
 
 Well, if it[1] was broken then I wouldn't be able to boot into the installed
 system from the Installation CD/DVD, and if it couldn't fit into memory then,
 again, it wouldn't fit when booting from the Installation CD.

I'm not sure of that.

 Something very weird going on here and I cannot figure it out.
 
 I used the Repair System from the Installation CD and when the automatic
 repair did nothing to fix the problem I used the Expert Mode and tried to
 Repair the Boot Loader. The interesting -- if you call this error message
 interesting! -- thing here is I got the following error message:
 
 grub setup  --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0,8) (hd0,8)
 Error 21  Selected disk does not exist
 
 but, of course, the disc does exist.

Have a look at the /boot/grub/device.map file. Mine has:

(hd1)   /dev/hdb
(fd0)   /dev/fd0
(hd3)   /dev/hdd
(hd0)   /dev/hda


 Grub is reading something from somewhere which has been corrupted but the
 Installation CD is not reading the same info and therefore boots into the
 existing system correctly. But what is grub reading and, more importantly, how
 to fix this is the 64,000 dollar question :-) (which I cannot answer :-( ).
 
 ([1] BTW, where is this gzipped copy located I couldn't find it :-( .)

Copy? I don't understand.

But:

  nimrodel:/boot # l initrd*
  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  29 Sep 28 02:06 initrd - 
initrd-2.6.16.21-0.25-default
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2440205 Oct  5 21:42 initrd-2.6.16.21-0.25-cer
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2438012 Sep 28 02:06 initrd-2.6.16.21-0.25-default
  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  25 Oct  5 21:50 initrd-cer - 
initrd-2.6.16.21-0.25-cer

initrd is a symlink, and you should check it is pointing correctly. Also:

  nimrodel:/boot # file initrd-2.6.16.21-0.25-default
  initrd-2.6.16.21-0.25-default: gzip compressed data, from Unix, max 
compression

it is a gziped file, so probably it can be checked. Or even easier, 
rebuilt wit the command mkinitrd. Do it, it won't hurt.

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Re: [opensuse] 10.0 - 10.1 Upgrade Issues

2006-11-26 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 22:07 -0800, Scott Leighton wrote:

 1) pin can't seem to locate ARCHIVES_10.1.gz on the DVD. There
 seems to be an ARCHIVES.gz file there, is it safe to copy that
 file over to /var/lib/pin and move on?

Yes.

There is also a different version at the ftp site you can use (it is way 
larger).

  2) I can't get phpMyAdmin to install, the upgrade blew away the
  previously installed version, but refuses to install the DVD
  version with the message 'there are no installable providers
  of pwgen'. Since my pin isn't working, anyone got any idea
  what it wants?

You need to add an external install source in yast: not everything is in 
the dvd. You will find that many useful programs were deleted during the 
upgrade because they were not found during the update in the DVD.

I have been told that you can add an additional source during the update 
process, but I haven't tested that. I will for 10.2

  3) Did something change about mounted DVDs/CDs? I have
  the install DVD in the drive, and I can see a symlink in  
 /media 

Yes, kde and gnome handle that directly, automunting in their own way. If 
you use another desktop or the console, you have to mount manually 
(defining the appropriate entry in fstab, which is deleted during the 
update), or use package... I forgot the name. There is an article about 
this in the opensuse web somewhere.

I use traditional manual mount.

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[opensuse] Suse 10.2 RC1 +Nvidia

2006-11-26 Thread Art Fore
After updating 10.2 beta2 to RC1, I can no longer compile the NVIDIA
drivers, they did compile before. It comes up that it cannot determine
the version, even though the sources are there.

Any suggestions why? (This is x86_64 machine)

Art

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Re: [opensuse] SuSE tainted

2006-11-26 Thread Jacques

Fred A. Miller a écrit :

On Saturday 25 November 2006 14:22, Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
  

On Nov 25, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:


The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 10:55 -0600, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
  

so do tell, what is this list for then?


Discussions about suse/novell linux. In my opinion, discussions
about the
future of that is more or less on topic, even if I dislike the tone of
some of them.

Complaining will not make them go away, but rather, will increase the
number of disccusions and the noise.
  

After close to 9 years on this list and hundreds of thousands of
emails answer and sent .. I find the deal between SuSe (I'm an old
fart, so leave me alone) and Microsoft VERY relevant to the future of
what I will support and use. I remember quite well Microsoft crushing
my beloved OS/2 with their bull and FUD. I don't want it to



A VERY sore point for a number of us who were working with systems for close 
to 30 yrs. I'm just an old goat, and it's true you're an old fart! ;)


  

happen again to Linux. Believe the PHB's out there pay more attention
to Microsoft paid pundits there we would believe. If they start
seeing stuff like what Ballmer put forth .. they will shy away from
Linux. This we can NOT have. So if Novell makes bad decisions that
could effect my livelihood .. then by damn I want to know what they
are. And if Novell has to be relegated to a bit player in the
computing world .. so be it. It's not about SUSE, SuSE or SuSe ..
it's about Linux and other GNU software.



Correct!!

  

Not one person here can accuse me of being a Chicken Little or having
an agenda. I've used SUSE since 4.1 and even worked for SUSE in
Oakland. I want them around just as much as anyone else, but I won't
have their parent company making shit decisions that in danger Linux.
All Microsoft has to bloody do is release their specs for things such
as SMB, NTFS and other such things .. the FOSS developers will do the
rest to make them work together better. We don't need an agreement
for better operability .. that crap.



Right again!

  
Anyway. The deal that Novell and Microsoft signed is very much ON 
topic. And if you people want to get back to the way this list was ..

I'd agree that actually answering questions instead of RTFM or check
the archives would be the way to go. This list hasn't been very great
for information in quite a few years. I wish we could have it back,
but I doubt that will happen.



It's a MAJOR issue of mammoth proportions that isn't just going to go away on 
it's own, nor dissappear if ignored.


Fred

  

Hello All
Don't you see that all that's happening was planned from the beginning 
by Novell's heads; the first day they bought SuSE; they had a plan to 
destroy it and don't be dreamers opensuse is only a leurre it won't 
survive as a community as long as Novell has destroyed everything and of 
course will stop financial help to opensuse- This is what i can see and 
as some guys here are old enough with SuSE just remember all the events 
happened in the near past.I am really sorry such a beautiful Os 
finishing like this

Jacques
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Re: [opensuse] SuSE tainted

2006-11-26 Thread Steve Jeppesen
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 01:17:48 -0500
Fred A. Miller wrote:

 It's a MAJOR issue of mammoth proportions that isn't just going to go
 away on it's own, nor dissappear if ignored.

right, not ignored but read about elsewhere.

The same place I'm going - elsewhere.

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Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.2 RC1 +Nvidia

2006-11-26 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Sunday 26 November 2006 12:34, Art Fore wrote:
 After updating 10.2 beta2 to RC1, I can no longer compile the NVIDIA
 drivers, they did compile before. It comes up that it cannot determine
 the version, even though the sources are there.

 Any suggestions why? (This is x86_64 machine)


Humm, I had no problems here, using a new openSUSE 10.2 RC1 installation, on 
an AMD 64 bit computer (with 64-bit install), and NVIDIA drivers 1.0-9629.

Hugo
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Re: [opensuse] SuSE tainted

2006-11-26 Thread Pascal Bleser
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Jacques wrote:
...
 Don't you see that all that's happening was planned from the beginning
 by Novell's heads; the first day they bought SuSE; they had a plan to
 destroy it and don't be dreamers opensuse is only a leurre it won't

Destroy it ?
That's why Novell's business strategy is based on
- - Linux
- - identity products

Sure. Makes sense.
Novell buys SUSE, changes almost its whole strategy to Linux.
Then it kills SUSE.

 survive as a community as long as Novell has destroyed everything and of
 course will stop financial help to opensuse- This is what i can see and

That might be true though. I don't know whether openSUSE can survive
without being backed by Novell (or rather, all the many developers
working on it who are paid by Novell).
Same applies to several distributions though, be it Fedora, or even
Ubuntu, even though the amount of paid developers there is lower than
for openSUSE AFAIK (might be wrong though).

 as some guys here are old enough with SuSE just remember all the events
 happened in the near past.I am really sorry such a beautiful Os
 finishing like this

Finishes like what ? Being used a lot more since Novell bought SUSE and
has YaST2, AppArmor and others under GPL, made SUSE Linux downloadable
for free, a 100% OSS version of SUSE Linux, ... ? More developers
working on SUSE Linux than when it was SuSE GmbH ?

I don't think there are reliable numbers out there, but when 10.0 was
released, the number of downloads on at least two of the main Packman
mirrors have *tripled*, and have remained at least as much from that day on.

Jacques, c'est du n'importe quoi sorti de ton ...

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Re: [opensuse] SuSE tainted

2006-11-26 Thread Anders Johansson
On Sunday 26 November 2006 13:33, Jacques wrote:
 Don't you see that all that's happening was planned from the beginning
 by Novell's heads; the first day they bought SuSE; they had a plan to
 destroy it

You do realise that you are accusing the Novell management of a major felony. 
If they really spent hundreds of millions of dollars of company money on 
something they planned to destroy, they would be guilty of quite a number of 
of offences punishable by prison terms. It is quite illegal to do things with 
shareholders' money that are not intended to further the company

Try not to be so silly, please
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[opensuse] FAM and xinetd

2006-11-26 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
I haven't figured out how to configure xinetd so it will run FAM.  My
/etc/xinetd.d/fam file is below. 

service fam
{
socket_type= stream
protocol= tcp
wait= yes
user= root
group= root
server= /usr/sbin/fam
disable= no
type= RPC UNLISTED
rpc_version = 2
rpc_number  = 391002
}

On restarting xinetd, the following messages show up in syslog:

Nov 26 07:45:10 odysseus xinetd[14988]: pmap_set failed. service=fam
program=391002 version=2
Nov 26 07:45:11 odysseus xinetd[14988]: Service fam failed to start and
is deactivated.
Nov 26 07:45:11 odysseus xinetd[14988]: 14988 {init_services} no
services. Exiting...

Starting fam from the command line as root works fine.

TIA,
   Jeffrey

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Re: [opensuse] GRUB error - can anyone help please?

2006-11-26 Thread Basil Chupin

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The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 20:47 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:


[pruned]


On Saturday 25 November 2006 21:33, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

It would be basically
grub, then root (hd0,8), then setup (hd0), which should find everything
and install it, the quit to leave grub, exit to leave the chroot, then
shutdown -r now to reboot and check.  HTH.

One more idea, since at least once it appeared you had a problem with
the initrd, while you are in the chroot, you could rerun the mkinitrd
command and make sure it finishes without error.  HTH.



As Joe suggests, rerunning mkinitrd is worth a try based on what you see.  
After the upgrade to beta1, I ran into a case where the upgrade somehow 
removed the initrd image completely and had to recreate it.  Using the 
installation disk allowed me to boot the system even with this image missing. 
If you haven't already done something else that would render this next 
portion nonapplicable, try the following after booting into the system w/ the 
installation disk to create a new initrd image:


cd /boot
mv initrd-2.6.18.2-4-default  initrd-2.6.18.2-4-default.notworking.old
Modify 2.6.18.2-4-default above(10.2 beta2 version) to match your current 
version which you can view with the output of uname -a.


rm initrd   (or  mv initrd initrd.notworking.old)

mkinitrd -k vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-4-default -i initrd-2.6.18.2-4-default
(your new initd-2.6.18.2-4 image should now be present)

and/or  for the xen image
mkinitrd -k vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-4-xen -i initrd-2.6.18.2-4-xen

Note that running just 'mkinitrd' with no options will create the default 
image that matches your current kernel vmlinuz image.


recreate symbolic link(s)
ln -s /boot/initrd-2.6.18.x-y /boot/initrd   
where 2.6.18.x-y above is the version number you just created


Verify that the symbolic links named /boot/initrd  /boot/vmlinuz point to 
matching version numbers .


# ll initrd
 initrd - initrd-2.6.18.2-4-default

and confirm that this version matches the vmlinuz image version
# ll vmlinuz
 vmlinuz - vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-4-default

You could also check for matching versions this before rerunning mkinitrd and 
if they don't match, it might be  the problem.


Thanks to you, Joe and to Darryl for your assistance and I ask for some 
time to digest all that has been suggested because I am finding it just 
a tad hard going trying to get it all into perspective. I am finding 
that what I expect to find I am not finding and what I read (eg in the 
Suse manual) is not as explicit as I would like so it is kinda confusing me.


For example, above you state that doing uname -a will give me the 
current version of the kernel I am using. After a bit of puzzlement I 
realised (I think!) that when one boots into a 'broken' system using the 
installation DVD the uname -a command shows the version of the kernel 
used by the installation DVD to boot into the OS and *not* the actual 
kernel installed in the OS.


For example, after booting using the 10.1 Installation DVD uname -a 
shows that the kernel is 2.6.16.13-4 but the kernel now actually in 
place is 2.6.16.21-0.25 and, of course, initrd etc also have this same 
(latter) number.


It took a few minutes to work out why you said that not using any 
parameters with the mkinitrd command will create a default image which 
will match the current kernel - in this case being the old ...16.13-4 
kernel which is not what I need.


This of course would explain why booting from the DVD works even though 
there is a corruption in,say, initird because it is the kernel etc which 
is on the DVD which is used and until the damage is repaired the OS 
continues to run on the old kernel etc. At least this is what I make of 
it :-) .


I'll recreate the initrd as described later today after rereading all 
that has been stated 'cause I don't want to mess things up even more and 
have to reinstall not only 10.1 but XP as well even though I only use it 
once in a blue moon.


Cheers.




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[opensuse] FAM authentication

2006-11-26 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
The fam man pages talk about trusted, untrusted, and unathenticated
clients but I find nothing about how to specify who is trusted, etc. 
This is on a SuSE 10.0 system.

TIA,
  Jeffrey
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[opensuse] Xen +Suse 10/2 +Latitude D820 Howto

2006-11-26 Thread Art Fore
Here is how I installed WinXPsp2 (Dell OEM) in Xen Kernel under Suse
10.2 Beta2. I later updated to RC1.

Machine is Dell Latitude D820 w/ Core 2 Duo T7600 processor (2.33 GHz),
2 GB Ram, 100 GB 7200 RPM Hitachi SATA disk drive, A04 BIOS version, and
a CD/DVD RW drive. Video is Nvidia Geforce Go 7300 with 1680X1050
Display.

I had tried Suse 10.1 (Xen 3.0.2) and Red Hat FC6 (Xen 3.0.3) both
32-bit and 64-bit installations. Suse, in both cases, would hang about
3/4 of the way through installion and only way to reboot was the power
switch. FC6 would lock up the same place, but only the virtual machine. 

Suse 10.2 Beta2 did not have the YAST Xen module, so I done a manual
setup. I first created a virtual disk using the example from
http://en.opensuse.org/Xen_Full_Virtualization_Example.

#cd /var/lib/xen/images
#dd if=/dev/zero of=windisk.img bs=1k seek=1k count=1
#dd if=/dev/zero of=windisk.img bs=1k count=1 conv=notrunc

Had problems getting that to work until I realized I had to uncomment
the boot=d to boot from the cdrom image.
I copied the WinXP cdrom with ImageMagic to my harddrive and used it as
I had seen somewhere that Suse recommended this.

I then changed the disk= line as shown below in the winxp.hvm file.
After WinXP start installing, I changed the boot=d to boot=c. I
almost fell over when the WinXP installation completed and it started.
Maximum resolution in WinXP with the Cirrus driver is only 1280X1024
with 16-bit color, not that great. 

Other problems I have noted so far.
I had the NVIDIA driver 1.0-8762 with the nvidiahack.sh installed in
10.1 and Xen would boot into X fine. However, in 10.2, it will not
compile, nor will any other version of the NVIDIA driver in either the
default or Xen kernel. I comes up that it cannot determine the version
of the kernel. Have a feeling this is due to the fact there is no longer
a smp kernel by itself, both are in the defualt kernel, or maybe it is
because of not being able to determine if 64-bit or 32-bit.

When using an external display with the same resolution, the horiz and
vertical position and size are way off. I cannot manually adjust the
external viewsonic monitor for the vertical size. When switching back to
the Latitude with Fn F8, the display is cropped on both sides. Also
noted this using a Dell docking station with a 1920X1200 Dell 24
display, but the external display in this case is also cropped on both
sides. 

The D820 will not boot from the Xen LiveCD. It gets to a certain point
and fails because it cannot find /dev/cdrom. Maybe this is caused
because the CDROM is /dev/sr0 and it cannot find it.

The Suse 10.2 Beta DVD has the firmware test program option from Intel
to check if the firmware with Linux ready. The 10.2 RC1 has it also and
seems to work better, that is, more like the program if it is downloaded
from Intel. It show 7 failures, 3 warnings, and 8 passes from a total of
18. My desktop, and MSI motherboard with AMD 64x2 process shows 4
failures. It looks like Dell has a little work to do. The Intel program
can be downloaded from http://www.linuxfirmwarekit.org/download.php for
those of you intersted.

Hope this helps someone. Below is the .hvm file I use.

Art

PS: My goal is to run XP under linux for only two programs I use at work
that have to be Windows. Everything else, I can do in Linux, usually
better and faster.

#  -*- mode: python; -*-
#
# Python configuration setup for 'xm create'.
# This script sets the parameters used when a domain is created using
'xm create'.
# You use a separate script for each domain you want to create, or 
# you can set the parameters for the domain on the xm command line.
#

import os, re
arch = os.uname()[4]
if re.search('64', arch):
arch_libdir = 'lib64'
else:
arch_libdir = 'lib'

#
# Kernel image file.
kernel = /usr/lib/xen/boot/hvmloader

# The domain build function. HVM domain uses 'hvm'.
builder='hvm'

# Initial memory allocation (in megabytes) for the new domain.
#
# WARNING: Creating a domain with insufficient memory may cause out of
#  memory errors. The domain needs enough memory to boot kernel
#  and modules. Allocating less than 32MBs is not recommended.
memory = 512

# Shadow pagetable memory for the domain, in MB.
# Should be at least 2KB per MB of domain memory, plus a few MB per
vcpu.
shadow_memory = 8

# A name for your domain. All domains must have different names.
name = winxp

# 128-bit UUID for the domain.  The default behavior is to generate a
new UUID
# on each call to 'xm create'.
#uuid = 06ed00fe-1162-4fc4-b5d8-11993ee4a8b9

#-
# the number of cpus guest platform has, default=1
vcpus=2

# enable/disable HVM guest PAE, default=0 (disabled)
#

Re: [opensuse] Dddddooppplicating keys

2006-11-26 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Sandy Drobic wrote:
 Carlos E. R. wrote:
  The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 21:38 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
 
   I think if it were as common as you say more people would be chirping in
   here.  So far, it seems mostly limited to smp machines.
 
  I said already that I saw that once in my machine, a week ago, and it's not
  and SMP.

 Hyperthreading?

I do see it with Hyperthreading turned on, but it goes away when I turn
off hyperthreading.  On my laptop.  Also changing the rate to 700ms fixes
it.  Only with newer version of the SUSE Kernel.  Original 10.1 did not
show it.  If I remember correctly.

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[opensuse] NIC

2006-11-26 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
Originally posted to opensuse-project list.

So, I figure you guys developing Opensuse may know what's going on. I am
running an MSI computer with Microstar International motherboard, Intel
915 chipset, etc. The driver is Realtek for my wired NIC and when I
installed 10.1, during the hardware scan, it found it. After install, it
couldn't recognize it as wired NIC so I can't get wired internet. When I
look at Hardware details, it is listed. I am using the SMP version of the
kernel. Can you tell me how to get my wired NIC working? My wireless is
working (ipw3945ABG) minus the fact that it has a 5 ft range. It is listed
as eth1 and requires that I push a button to turn on the wireless NIC. Any
ideas?
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Re: [opensuse] SuSE tainted

2006-11-26 Thread Druid

Hello All
Don't you see that all that's happening was planned from the beginning
by Novell's heads; the first day they bought SuSE; they had a plan to
destroy it and don't be dreamers opensuse is only a leurre it won't
survive as a community as long as Novell has destroyed everything and of
course will stop financial help to opensuse- This is what i can see and
as some guys here are old enough with SuSE just remember all the events
happened in the near past.I am really sorry such a beautiful Os
finishing like this
Jacques


The best way to accelerate the guy I'm replying to and Bruce Perens is
at 9.8 m/s2

yours


Marcio
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Re: [opensuse] NIC

2006-11-26 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
 So, I figure you guys developing Opensuse may know what's going on. I am
 running an MSI computer with Microstar International motherboard, Intel
 915 chipset, etc. The driver is Realtek for my wired NIC and when I
 installed 10.1, during the hardware scan, it found it. After install, it
 couldn't recognize it as wired NIC so I can't get wired internet. When I
 look at Hardware details, it is listed. I am using the SMP version of the
 kernel. Can you tell me how to get my wired NIC working? My wireless is
 working (ipw3945ABG) minus the fact that it has a 5 ft range. It is listed
 as eth1 and requires that I push a button to turn on the wireless NIC. Any
 ideas?

Sorry if I did not make it clear that it was posted by someone else
needing assistance.

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Re: [opensuse] Dddddooppplicating keys

2006-11-26 Thread David Bottrill
On Sunday 26 November 2006 14:47, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:

  Hyperthreading?

 I do see it with Hyperthreading turned on, but it goes away when I turn
 off hyperthreading.  On my laptop.  Also changing the rate to 700ms fixes
 it.  Only with newer version of the SUSE Kernel.  Original 10.1 did not
 show it.  If I remember correctly.


I'm running on an AMD X2 and I think it may have started happening again after 
a kernel update. I haven't noticed any problems again until the last few 
weeks.

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Re: [opensuse] NIC

2006-11-26 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
Sorry my brain is not working this morning...

On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
 On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
  So, I figure you guys developing Opensuse may know what's going on. I am
  running an MSI computer with Microstar International motherboard, Intel
  915 chipset, etc. The driver is Realtek for my wired NIC and when I
  installed 10.1, during the hardware scan, it found it. After install, it
  couldn't recognize it as wired NIC so I can't get wired internet. When I
  look at Hardware details, it is listed. I am using the SMP version of the
  kernel. Can you tell me how to get my wired NIC working? My wireless is
  working (ipw3945ABG) minus the fact that it has a 5 ft range. It is listed
  as eth1 and requires that I push a button to turn on the wireless NIC. Any
  ideas?

 Sorry if I did not make it clear that it was posted by someone else
 needing assistance.

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2006-11/msg00127.html


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[opensuse] Mobile Homes

2006-11-26 Thread Philip Mötteli

Hi,


Is it possible to make with OpenSuSE what Apple calls Mobile Homes:

Mobile Home Directories will allow users to centrally manage the home  
directories of their portable Mac clients and yet allow each user  
online and offline access from the office and the road. When a user  
goes offline, her home directory goes with her, so she can continue  
to work just as she would back at the office. In addition, the user's  
public folder remains accessible to the network while she’s away, so  
her co-workers can still drop files into her folder as well as see  
her public files. When the user reconnects her iBook or PowerBook to  
the network, Tiger server will automatically syncs up the home  
directory with the one on the server.



Re
Phil

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Re: [opensuse] GRUB error - can anyone help please?

2006-11-26 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2006-11-27 at 01:09 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

...
 For example, after booting using the 10.1 Installation DVD uname -a shows that
 the kernel is 2.6.16.13-4 but the kernel now actually in place is
 2.6.16.21-0.25 and, of course, initrd etc also have this same (latter) number.
 
 It took a few minutes to work out why you said that not using any parameters
 with the mkinitrd command will create a default image which will match the
 current kernel - in this case being the old ...16.13-4 kernel which is not
 what I need.

Did you try that, or is it a guess? :-?

If it is a guess, as I think, then try it and don't waste more time :-p

   If you get an initrd for the old version then I'll tell you how to 
   solve that. But I don't think you will.

 This of course would explain why booting from the DVD works even though there
 is a corruption in,say, initird because it is the kernel etc which is on the
 DVD which is used and until the damage is repaired the OS continues to run on
 the old kernel etc. At least this is what I make of it :-) .

Correct. 

 I'll recreate the initrd as described later today after rereading all that has
 been stated 'cause I don't want to mess things up even more and have to
 reinstall not only 10.1 but XP as well even though I only use it once in a
 blue moon.

I have run the mkinitrd dozens or hundreds of times, and it never broke my 
install, that I can remember.

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Re: [opensuse] SuSE tainted

2006-11-26 Thread Tom Patton
On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 00:18 -0600, Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
 On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:03 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
  Proof by accusation and innuendo doesn't hold much sway anywhere,
  except in a campaign of FUD.
 
  And when deciding to invade nations like Iraq.
 
 U.S. politics should NOT be injected into this conversation .. that  
 DOES belong on the OT list. It inflames people to much and has not a  
 bloody thing to do with Microsoft, SUSE, or Linux. Please people ..  
 let us not devolve into stupidity.
other than Time will tell...

...what WAS in those Russian convoys from Iraq to Syria?
...was Sadam teaching how to serve tea in that 747 at the camp?
...??...???...

...were there Aliens at Roswell?

If we survive long enough, our grandkids might learn the truth.  Until
then, have they begun pre-release orders for the boxed 10.2?

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Re: [opensuse] GRUB error - can anyone help please?

2006-11-26 Thread rmyster
On Sunday 26 November 2006 07:09, Basil Chupin wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  mkinitrd -k vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-4-default -i initrd-2.6.18.2-4-default
  (your new initd-2.6.18.2-4 image should now be present)
 
  and/or  for the xen image
  mkinitrd -k vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-4-xen -i initrd-2.6.18.2-4-xen
 
  Note that running just 'mkinitrd' with no options will create the default
  image that matches your current kernel vmlinuz image.
 
  recreate symbolic link(s)
  ln -s /boot/initrd-2.6.18.x-y /boot/initrd
  where 2.6.18.x-y above is the version number you just created
 


 Thanks to you, Joe and to Darryl for your assistance and I ask for some
 time to digest all that has been suggested because I am finding it just
 a tad hard going trying to get it all into perspective. I am finding
 that what I expect to find I am not finding and what I read (eg in the
 Suse manual) is not as explicit as I would like so it is kinda confusing
 me.

 For example, above you state that doing uname -a will give me the
 current version of the kernel I am using. After a bit of puzzlement I
 realised (I think!) that when one boots into a 'broken' system using the
 installation DVD the uname -a command shows the version of the kernel
 used by the installation DVD to boot into the OS and *not* the actual
 kernel installed in the OS.


That didn't occur to me but did you boot with your system's  installation 
cd/dvd or were you using an earlier version?  Booting with the 10.2 RC1 dvd 
on my end shows the kernel as 2.6.18.2-23-default which matches the kernel 
when booting directly into 10.2 RC1. 

 For example, after booting using the 10.1 Installation DVD uname -a
 shows that the kernel is 2.6.16.13-4 but the kernel now actually in
 place is 2.6.16.21-0.25 and, of course, initrd etc also have this same
 (latter) number.

 It took a few minutes to work out why you said that not using any
 parameters with the mkinitrd command will create a default image which
 will match the current kernel - in this case being the old ...16.13-4
 kernel which is not what I need.


If vmlinux-2.6.16.21-0.25-default is your latest available version in 
your /boot dir, then use those numbers and use mkinitrd with the -k  -i 
options mentioned previously.  Looking at where the /boot/vmliuz symbolic 
link points to at the moment should tell you what the latest version is on 
your system and just match that one.  As of 10.2 RC1, the latest version is 
2.6.18.2-23-default and my earlier examples used the 10.2 beta2 kernel 
version.  

 This of course would explain why booting from the DVD works even though
 there is a corruption in,say, initird because it is the kernel etc which
 is on the DVD which is used and until the damage is repaired the OS
 continues to run on the old kernel etc. At least this is what I make of
 it :-) .

or the install disk just creates the initrd ramdisk on the fly from the 
existing vmlinuz image.

 I'll recreate the initrd as described later today after rereading all
 that has been stated 'cause I don't want to mess things up even more and
 have to reinstall not only 10.1 but XP as well even though I only use it
 once in a blue moon.


If your latest kernel vmlinuz image is 2.6.18.2-23-default, then after 
renaming the existing files (initrd and initrd-2.6.18.2-23-default), you can 
use

mkinitrd -k  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-23-default -i 
/boot/initrd-2.6.18.2-23-default

followed by

ln -s /boot/initrd-2.6.18.2-23-default /boot/initrd





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Re: [opensuse] Armada M700 SuSE-10.1 display problem

2006-11-26 Thread Reinhard Gimbel
Hello !

Hans du Plooy wrote:

 On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 18:46 +0100, Alain Barthélemy wrote:
 Hi, I'm new to Linux. I just installed suse 10.1 on my old laptop,
 Armada M700 and found the display problem. It's like the top part of the
 screen is shown at the bottom. I tried to change the resolution, monitor
 and frequency around but couldn't get it to work. The VGA card is ATI 3D
 Rage P/M Moility AGP 2x. 
 
 Which driver are you using?  Even though it says Rage Mobility it is
 actually a Mach64 (at least it was on my m700), which can be problematic
 in Linux.  If I remember correctly I used the r128 driver.  However,
 that was SUSE 9.3, and I see in 10.1 there is a r128 and r128old
 in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers - not sure what the difference is.
 
 Either ways, if you really want to make it work very nicely, try to get
 GATOS drivers going.  Again, I'm not sure what the current situation is,
 but a couple of years ago that was the only way to get those cards to
 function 100%, especially if you had the All-In-Wonder models.

In addition I would advise to try either fbdev or vesa X11 drivers to
get the system running in principal before doing the experiments with
r128/r128old.

Using fbdev or vesa drivers might not result in a system with a high
graphics speed but should bring at least a right display screen.

It is also a good idea to backup each state of the file
/etc/X11/xorg.conf (with useful names ...). Thus you can fall back a
before working setting.
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Re: [opensuse] ktorrent dload 10.2rc1

2006-11-26 Thread steve reilly
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On Saturday 25 November 2006 15:01, Carlos E. R. wrote:


hi,

thank you for your input.  still anxiously awaiting ktorrent to finish the 
dload 10.2rc1 , as my son turned it off last night when I went to bed.  said 
it was slowing his laptop down lol...kids...

 trying again today.   

for some reason today I am getting amazing speed, 209k dload!!  77.12% 
complete... I may not have to wait much longer.


 Download speed depends on how many people are UPloading.

  right now I have 11 leechers, 29 seeders, download speeds 4.3 kbs and
  upload speed of 7.9.

 Your upload speed is low.


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 | file: openSUSE-10.2-RC1-DVD-i386-iso
 | size: 3,696,027,648 (3 GiB)
 | dest: /biggy/cer/torrent/openSUSE-10.2-RC1-DVD-i386-iso
 | progress:
 | ###__
 |___ status:   finishing in 32:42:21
 | (13.9%)
 | dl speed: 21.7 KB/s
 | ul speed: 12.0 KB/s
 | sharing:  0.415  (161.4 MB up / 389.3 MB down)
 | seeds:12 seen now, plus 0 distributed copies (1:98.5%, 2:86.4%,
 | 3:68.7%) peers:13 seen now
 |
  Im sure my config is just messed up, but I need someone to tell me just
  that.

 I don't think so.

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Re: [opensuse] ktorrent dload 10.2rc1

2006-11-26 Thread ken

What's the URL?  I'll jump in too.


On 11/26/2006 12:03 PM somebody named steve reilly wrote:
 On Saturday 25 November 2006 15:01, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 
 hi,
 
 thank you for your input.  still anxiously awaiting ktorrent to finish the 
 dload 10.2rc1 , as my son turned it off last night when I went to bed.  said 
 it was slowing his laptop down lol...kids...
 
  trying again today.   
 
 for some reason today I am getting amazing speed, 209k dload!!  77.12% 
 complete... I may not have to wait much longer.
 
 
 Download speed depends on how many people are UPloading.
 
 right now I have 11 leechers, 29 seeders, download speeds 4.3 kbs and
 upload speed of 7.9.
 Your upload speed is low.
 
 
 ---
 --
 
 | file: openSUSE-10.2-RC1-DVD-i386-iso
 | size: 3,696,027,648 (3 GiB)
 | dest: /biggy/cer/torrent/openSUSE-10.2-RC1-DVD-i386-iso
 | progress:
 | ###__
 |___ status:   finishing in 32:42:21
 | (13.9%)
 | dl speed: 21.7 KB/s
 | ul speed: 12.0 KB/s
 | sharing:  0.415  (161.4 MB up / 389.3 MB down)
 | seeds:12 seen now, plus 0 distributed copies (1:98.5%, 2:86.4%,
 | 3:68.7%) peers:13 seen now
 |
 Im sure my config is just messed up, but I need someone to tell me just
 that.
 I don't think so.
 
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Re: [opensuse] Mobile Homes

2006-11-26 Thread James Knott
Philip Mötteli wrote:
 Hi,


 Is it possible to make with OpenSuSE what Apple calls Mobile Homes:

 Mobile Home Directories will allow users to centrally manage the home
 directories of their portable Mac clients and yet allow each user
 online and offline access from the office and the road. When a user
 goes offline, her home directory goes with her, so she can continue to
 work just as she would back at the office. In addition, the user's
 public folder remains accessible to the network while she’s away, so
 her co-workers can still drop files into her folder as well as see her
 public files. When the user reconnects her iBook or PowerBook to the
 network, Tiger server will automatically syncs up the home directory
 with the one on the server.


If I'm reading your message correctly, you're simply asking about
syncing files.  Yes, Linux can do that.  There are several methods,
including rsync.  The KDE desktop also shows to file sync apps, under
UtilitiesSync
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Re: [opensuse] SuSE tainted

2006-11-26 Thread Rajko M
On Sunday 26 November 2006 10:28, Tom Patton wrote:

 If we survive long enough, our grandkids might learn the truth.  

That is fine remark.
The whole dust that we have now will be for a long time settled and irelevant. 
No one will care about todays hot topic. 

 Until then, have they begun pre-release orders for the boxed 10.2?

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[opensuse] NVIDIA Ge Force 7300GT

2006-11-26 Thread Sergey Mkrtchyan

Hi List,

There is a problem with NVIDIA Ge Force 7300GT, my friend has downloaded 
and installed a driver for it from Nvidia's official web-site, though 
the resolution remains to be very small and web-sites are not shown 
normally (letters are getting on each other).


The preferrable resolution is 1400x900, and it used to work under it 
with SuSE, but he can't make it work now with SciLinux.


There is a configuration file XFree86 there with lines in it
_
Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Videocard0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection Display
Depth 16
Modes800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
EndSection


Is that the Modes where it should be changed to...what 1400x900, 
1280x1024?


Don't knock me for topic which is not directly related to SuSE, but I 
guess that should be the same for different Linux-systems.


Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Sergey

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Re: [opensuse] Armada M700 SuSE-10.1 display problem

2006-11-26 Thread phantom21
On Sunday 26 November 2006 11:41, Reinhard Gimbel wrote:
 Hello !

 Hans du Plooy wrote:
  On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 18:46 +0100, Alain Barthélemy wrote:
  Hi, I'm new to Linux. I just installed suse 10.1 on my old laptop,
  Armada M700 and found the display problem. It's like the top part of the
  screen is shown at the bottom. I tried to change the resolution, monitor
  and frequency around but couldn't get it to work. The VGA card is ATI 3D
  Rage P/M Moility AGP 2x.
 
  Which driver are you using?  Even though it says Rage Mobility it is
  actually a Mach64 (at least it was on my m700), which can be problematic
  in Linux.  If I remember correctly I used the r128 driver.  However,
  that was SUSE 9.3, and I see in 10.1 there is a r128 and r128old
  in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers - not sure what the difference is.
 
  Either ways, if you really want to make it work very nicely, try to get
  GATOS drivers going.  Again, I'm not sure what the current situation is,
  but a couple of years ago that was the only way to get those cards to
  function 100%, especially if you had the All-In-Wonder models.

 In addition I would advise to try either fbdev or vesa X11 drivers to
 get the system running in principal before doing the experiments with
 r128/r128old.

 Using fbdev or vesa drivers might not result in a system with a high
 graphics speed but should bring at least a right display screen.

 It is also a good idea to backup each state of the file
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf (with useful names ...). Thus you can fall back a
 before working setting.
 --
 Never give up !

 Best regards / Gruß, Reinhard.

 Software is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open.

One of the things I like to do with older systems is use a Knoppix live boot 
disk and see how the system responds.  If the display works, I copy the 
configuration files for X to whatever distro I want to install.  This usually 
works.

Mark

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Re: [opensuse] Mobile Homes

2006-11-26 Thread Renegade Penguin
Mobile Homes is SIMILAR but not the same as Windows Briefcase - there is 
more automation to Mobile Homes, and also more automation than rsync and 
KDE syncing.  The issue is syncing files on BOTH ends, which people 
often overlook.


Here's a short tutorial:

http://aplawrence.com/Basics/rsync.html

You'll hit problems with too many files on a Suse system.

Mobile Homes actually does a set of directories, one of them public on 
the home server.  Also, Mobile Homes automatically syncs up files when 
you reconnect, whereas the utilities in OpenSuse, including syncing 
utilities are typically manual.


RP

James Knott wrote:

If I'm reading your message correctly, you're simply asking about
syncing files.  Yes, Linux can do that.  There are several methods,
including rsync.  The KDE desktop also shows to file sync apps, under
UtilitiesSync
  

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Re: [opensuse] NVIDIA Ge Force 7300GT

2006-11-26 Thread Graham Anderson
On Sunday 26 November 2006 17:45, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote:
 Hi List,

 There is a problem with NVIDIA Ge Force 7300GT, my friend has downloaded
 and installed a driver for it from Nvidia's official web-site, though
 the resolution remains to be very small and web-sites are not shown
 normally (letters are getting on each other).

 The preferrable resolution is 1400x900, and it used to work under it
 with SuSE, but he can't make it work now with SciLinux.

 There is a configuration file XFree86 there with lines in it
 _
 Section Screen
   Identifier Screen0
   Device Videocard0
   MonitorMonitor0
   DefaultDepth 16
   SubSection Display
   Depth 16
   Modes800x600 640x480
   EndSubSection
 EndSection
 

 Is that the Modes where it should be changed to...what 1400x900,
 1280x1024?

 Don't knock me for topic which is not directly related to SuSE, but I
 guess that should be the same for different Linux-systems.

 Thanks in advance.
 Best regards,
 Sergey

I find the nvidia drivers always worked best for me when i explicitly set  the 
options for modes , freqencies and DPI. I also found that in some of the 
driver versions disabling monitor settings probe with EDID sometimes helped 
also as it would over-ride any manually configured options in the xorg.conf

Check out appendix D of the nvidia linux driver docs for the options regarding 
modes and mode validation.

http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9629/README/appendix-d.html

These options mentioned in appendix D should usually be place in the 'device' 
section but maybe also the 'screen' section. 

For example here I deny the driver the ability to probe my monitor for valid 
modes using the  Option ModeValidation NoEdidModes directive, this allows 
be to manually set my modes in the xorg.cong file

Section Device
  BoardNameGeForce 7800 GS AGP
  BusID1:0:0
  Driver   nvidia
  Identifier   Device[0]
  VendorName   NVidia
 Option ModeValidation NoEdidModes
EndSection

Regards
Graham
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Re: [opensuse] can anyone help to configure a fully-qualified hostname in sendmail?

2006-11-26 Thread Mike Noble
Since I don't use any mailer at home, I have removed postfix
and have installed sendmail.  This will allow me to see how
suse uses sendmail (or modified from original), will also set it
up to use my ISP smtp server as a smart host.  Nobody will be able
tell you what you need to do as each site is different.  But at least
I will have a better idea of what you need to do.

Mike

Sandy Drobic wrote:
 Mike Noble wrote:
 Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 17:37 -0800, Mike Noble wrote:


 Actually I hate Postfix and have used Sendmail for over 15 years.
 What I was trying to say was that maybe he has them confused.
 I did send the OP a direct reply (forgot reply to was not set
 to list) telling him make changes to sendmail.
 Could you post those changes here, just for the record? Even if I
 don't use sendmail now, I like to learn. :-)


 One of the best places to information about sendmail is to go to:
 http://sendmail.org/
 
 I was also hoping for a bit more specific advice. For Postfix the
 procedure would be:
 
 servername: www
 domain:example.com
 
 as root:
 postconf -e myhostname = www.example.com
 postfix reload
 
 If you've got some strange setup where you don't want to use the
 hostname as HELO, you can set the helo name of the server with:
 
 postconf -e smtp_helo_name = mail.example.com
 postfix reload
 
 The default of smtp_helo_name is $myhostname:
 # postconf -d smtp_helo_name
 smtp_helo_name = $myhostname
 
 So usually it's not neccessary.
 
 I tried to find the information on the sendmail.org site, but didn't
 find anything useful within a few minutes. Do you have a more specific
 link for basic Sendmail setup including hostname?
 
 To setup DNS for private address space, you can find at:
 http://sendmail.org/tips/private-dns/

 Of course private address space was never mentioned, I'm just
 assuming that he does not have valid IP and that all internal
 IP addresses are being NAT'd to a valid IP address on the internet.
 
 Judging from the hostname www that he used he is probably trying to
 send mail from a webserver using the local Sendmail installation. So he
 probably has an official IP (and hopefully correctly set up dns and
 reverse dns).
 
 Sandy
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Re: [opensuse] Xen +Suse 10/2 +Latitude D820 Howto

2006-11-26 Thread Rajko M
On Sunday 26 November 2006 08:40, Art Fore wrote:
 Here is how I installed WinXPsp2 (Dell OEM) in Xen Kernel under Suse
 10.2 Beta2. I later updated to RC1.

 Machine is Dell Latitude D820 w/ Core 2 Duo T7600 processor (2.33 GHz),
 2 GB Ram, 100 GB 7200 RPM Hitachi SATA disk drive, A04 BIOS version, and
 a CD/DVD RW drive. Video is Nvidia Geforce Go 7300 with 1680X1050
 Display.


Hi Art,

Do have time to put this on openSUSE wiki? 
The title might be something like this:
  http://en.opensuse.org/Xen_and_Widows_XP
to make introduction and then this post as a subpage:
  Dell_Latitude
http://en.opensuse.org/Xen_and_Widows_XP/Dell_Latitude

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Re: [opensuse] 10.0 - 10.1 Upgrade Issues

2006-11-26 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 10:07:24PM -0800, Scott Leighton wrote:
 
 Just upgraded from 10.0 to 10.1 and am running into a couple
 of confusing issues maybe someone can help me with. I used
 the remastered 10.1 DVD for the install, X86_64 version.
 
 1) pin can't seem to locate ARCHIVES_10.1.gz on the DVD. There
 seems to be an ARCHIVES.gz file there, is it safe to copy that
 file over to /var/lib/pin and move on?
 
  2) I can't get phpMyAdmin to install, the upgrade blew away the
  previously installed version, but refuses to install the DVD
  version with the message 'there are no installable providers
  of pwgen'. Since my pin isn't working, anyone got any idea
  what it wants?

There is a config.php.rpmnew file, just moving to config.php
should help.

CIao, Marcus
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[opensuse] NIC

2006-11-26 Thread susehelp


So, I figure you guys developing Opensuse may know what's going on. I am
running an MSI computer with Microstar International motherboard, Intel
915 chipset, etc. The driver is Realtek for my wired NIC and when I
installed 10.1, during the hardware scan, it found it. After install, it
couldn't recognize it as wired NIC so I can't get wired internet. When I
look at Hardware details, it is listed. I am using the SMP version of the
kernel. Can you tell me how to get my wired NIC working? My wireless is
working (ipw3945ABG) minus the fact that it has a 5 ft range. It is listed
as eth1 and requires that I push a button to turn on the wireless NIC. Any
ideas?
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[opensuse] 10.1 Yast Online Update

2006-11-26 Thread Scott Leighton

 I think I'm confused again g. Just upgraded from 10.0 to 10.1
and am trying to get used to some of the changes that apparently
occurred. 

  The new update process has me baffled. The zen-updater icon tells
me there are no updates, but when I go to yast2's online update,
a ton of patches are listed, some with checkmarks, some 
without. 

  Which one should I believe? 

  Scott


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Re: [opensuse] ktorrent dload 10.2rc1

2006-11-26 Thread eddieleprince
On Sunday 26 November 2006 17:13, ken wrote:
 What's the URL?  I'll jump in too.

 On 11/26/2006 12:03 PM somebody named steve reilly wrote:
  On Saturday 25 November 2006 15:01, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 
  hi,
 
  thank you for your input.  still anxiously awaiting ktorrent to finish
  the dload 10.2rc1 , as my son turned it off last night when I went to
  bed.  said it was slowing his laptop down lol...kids...
 
   trying again today.
 
  for some reason today I am getting amazing speed, 209k dload!!  77.12%
  complete... I may not have to wait much longer.
 
  Download speed depends on how many people are UPloading.
 
  right now I have 11 leechers, 29 seeders, download speeds 4.3 kbs and
  upload speed of 7.9.
 
  Your upload speed is low.

Have you tried the UPnP plugin?

Eddie
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Re: [opensuse] ktorrent dload 10.2rc1

2006-11-26 Thread steve reilly
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On Sunday 26 November 2006 12:13, ken wrote:
 What's the URL?  I'll jump in too.


its just the one on the opensuse site for the x86 dvd, here you go.   goodluck


http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-RC1/openSUSE-10.2-RC1-DVD-i386.torrent

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Re: [opensuse] Armada M700 SuSE-10.1 display problem

2006-11-26 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 20:06 +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote:
 in Linux.  If I remember correctly I used the r128 driver.
I'm actually not sure now.  I think it was the ati driver.  If I
remember correctly the problem was precisely that it didn't work
properly with the r128 driver.

Hans
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