Re: Illegal Street Photography?
In a message dated 11/29/01 10:00:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greetings from Portland everyone... The recent discussion about Robert Payne's Arrest photo started me thinking about the legal implications of street photography. Are there locations and/or subjects that are just off-limits to uninvited photography? The generally accepted term literally meaning in the streets, most times a public event (arrests, fights, celebrities and the like) are fair game. If the photographer is suspected of observing a crime, s/he might be asked to surrender their film (to be receipted and returned). In matters of national security, (or some such declared emergency), a photographer is often asked to give up their film (no return). ~ANY~ commissioned officer can ask any civilian, (as opposed to a working PJ/journalist) for their film (to be returned). Recent events since September 11 has seen such a tightening of security that the places I once took for granted as being safe to shoot, may not be anymore. *I've noted before that I generally didn't point my camera at any police for any reason, especially when overseas, where the even vaunted power (and privileges) of the press usually don't mean diddly. The photo in question seems to have been taken by a non-zoom lens, maybe 35 to 50mm prime lens (because the interest, though at the center of the photo, was not clearly defined). **I don't remember if the photographer noted what lens he used. something they shouldn't have? I welcome comments, stories, whatever... Yup; in Haiti, The Sudan, South Africa, Utah, New York, Philadelphia, Thailand, a NATO base in The Netherlands, Vietnam... *After refusing to turn over my film, me and my film (and gear) have been bodily encouraged to accompany police to a police lab where the film was developed, printed, surveilled and returned. Overseas, the problem is you simply don't know who the particulars are in any photo. You may have captured an illegal transaction, or government spy or criminal in your lens. One can scream I'm an (pick one) citizen, I have my rights all you damn well pleased, but if they (police or security or gangsters) ~really~ want it, they'll have your film (and you). ***There are corporate campuses where you ought not be seen with a camera. We learned from the OJ mess that it is legal (in the US at least) to shoot from ~public~ property onto private or government holdings without fear of recriminations. (Better not try that around US Air Force bases or any military facilities though). Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FA* 24mm f2's diffraction lusters flare performance
I do not know how it ompares to other Pentax 24mm, but the FA*24/4 does have some flare problem though not serious (compared to other brands). I have had 2 of this lens and both are the same. regards, Alan Chan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cotty's Pentax Mods December update posted...
Actually, a thought occurred to me regarding POETS day: Piss Off Early Tomorrow's Saturday. For your enhanced North American enjoyment, the UK-use of 'Piss Off' does not mean to annoy someone. In fact here in Britain it means to 'leave, go, depart, move off smartly, get-the-hell-outta-there, etc'. So the reference could be translated thus: 'I say old chap, do you realise it's Friday, and tomorrow is Saturday? Why don't we be awfully cheeky and leave work a tad early today, it'll be awfully good sport, what what?' Instead of: 'Hey there buuud, seein' as termorra's Saterdee an' all, what sayin we head on dern the saloon and beat up on ol' Jakey-One-Eye, that'll get 'im riled some...' Cheers, Cotty's Modern and Ancient Slang Enjoyment Services ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Censorship-not,
Mike is perfectly right. The idea that complainers of violation of list etiquette are turning the list into hell is like accusing the police arresting criminals for being the source of crime. The accusation that the complaining of off topic message is the real problem after a thread on the topic is as absurd as it is annoying. We have lost several highly respected valuable members of PDML due to excessive OT messages; lets not loose more. Guess what; in the more violent moment of this list some have even complained about on topic messages! This is the ultimate absurd endpoint when OT goes out of hand. Its' pretty obvious to me at least that you will always get complains off topic messages when people have subscribed to a topic list. This is bleeding obvious. Its like going into a cinema and they show a different film than the one advertised. Of course people complain. The fact that minority may find it perfectly OK to see another movie has nothing whatsoever to do with it. If you don't want such complains don't post OT. The reputation of Pentax discuss, and I'm speaking as someone who has been around since day one, grew from self restrain regarding OT messages and inflammatory posts. We were very aware of keeping the balance. The hell started (and always start) when the list get flooded with OT messages; when everything is allowed, flame throwing and name calling is also legal. To illustrate the situation once on this list: In the summer of '98 a character calling himself The Who broke into this list. He had problems expressing himself (he might even have been dyslectic), anyway he got nastier with every post and eventually gave this classic remark; you sick as wholes (sic). The point is that it took weeks before anyone responded with Sorry, I can't take it anymore and then started complaining about Who. There was so much self restrain that people waited in the longest before complaining. Unfortunately, this eventually backfired. When the list got flooded with OT messages there was no mechanism that reacted immediately. Anyway, when the flame wars are at their worst, there is a following period that's quiet showing that everybody pretty much understands that OT out of hand simply doesn't work. And note that 90% of flame wars are due to OT messages like politics and taxes. I would like to state that OT volume is now manageable and much lower that at other periods in this list history. This is just my opinion but nobody, including me, has any right to define the level of OT thats tolerable. I do, however, believe that most people can tolerate a low level of OT messages so lets keep it that way. I see no reason to complain; I'm not doing that now either - I'm responding to a post that I find to be strictly on topic because its about this list. I would also strongly urge those who want to subscribe to an everything list to subscribe to such a list if they can find one. I don't expect it to exist for the simple reason that there are no one out there who is interested in everything. Posting off topic post is grossly inconsiderate; nothing less. Its a lack of respect for those hundreds subscribing to this list and the thousands reading it. We have only one thing in common and that's Pentax and photography. We will never reach a consensus of what level of off topic post is reasonable; therefore keep it to a minimum. On this list we have subscribers who tolerate 0% to 100% OT messages. However, the only common ground is the 0% which means 100% Pentax. I personally see no reason to complain to the OT situation right now but I see no reason anybody should tolerate getting their mailbox flooded with post they never asked for just because someone feel its their goddamn constitutional right to do so if it pleases them. I would also like to stress this isn't a place to hang out. Its a mailing list where people have subscribed to a certain topic. If someone find the topic boring why subscribe? And if you are bored why not go somewhere else - like getting a life (sorry) instead of sending unsolicited mail to hundreds of people? I'm not saying this to attac anyone personally. I find it totally obvious; I really can't fathom the right to go to any mailing list to post whatever one likes. There must be a reason for having subject mailing list. If it was OK to post whatever we liked, all we ever needed was one mailing list, the mailing list, where we could post Pentax, politics, whatever. I'm sorry but anarchy simply don't work. The fact that some subscribe to the digest doesn't necessarily mean that they don't want to participate in this list. Many who read the list from the net or receive the digest may do so because they don't want excessive OT mails in their in box. What makes Pentax discuss to a friendly place is that the subscribers show some restraints. It has work very well recently. You'll also see that the friendliness is correlative with the
Re: Illegal Street Photography?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The generally accepted term literally meaning in the streets, most times a public event (arrests, fights, celebrities and the like) are fair game. If the photographer is suspected of observing a crime, s/he might be asked to surrender their film (to be receipted and returned). Some years ago I had a knock on my door and upon opening it was confronted by some firemen telling me the building (a church) was on fire and that our building was being evacuated as a precaution. So I grabbed my camera and joined the crowds on the street and thought I might get a few snaps for the local paper. About 5 mins into this I was approached by a police officer and asked if I might be able to photograph the crowd, and as I had a reasonable zoom any one else at a distance watching the fire-fighters extinguish the blaze. The point was that apparently arsonists like to hang about to see the fire and confusion they have created. When I was out of film, the officer asked for it, quite nicely, and I gave it to him. He took my particulars and told me he would return the film as I had informed him the first 2-3 shots were of my children. About a week later he contacted me by phone and asked if he might drop it off. The timing was inconvenient so he suggested I pick it up from the station at a pre-arranged time, I did this and all was well. In hind sight, I wonder what would have happened if I said no, I am a freelance photographer and want to sell the images to the press. Kind regards Kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
November PUG comments
OK, so I'm a little late. It has been a crazy month and being gone for a little over a week hasn't helped. So, let me make a few comments: The Esses - by Cory Waters My first glance at this made me think the fence was actually some overcase clouds. The effect is quite interesting. I'm sure Cory did not have that in mind. I had thought the panoramic crop was a little odd for this image until I viewed the uncropped one. I think that the crop is basically in the right place. It might not have hurt to crop the sides a bit too. I'm surprised by how great the DOF is. It really helps here to keep both cars in focus. For some reason, my eyes keep wandering to the right as I view this photo. I'm not sure if it is anticipation of the cars moving off to the right or some inbalance in the image. It does have a *dark* feeling to it overall. Seems like an overcast day or maybe early evening. I like the headlights begin on, but not overpowering. Catching the cars through this section seems like a tricky task. I'm curious whether you used AF or pre-focused. Cory, a very likable shot The Fellas - by William Robb I'm impressed by how well behaved the dogs are. They appear to enjoy having their picture taken. Good, strong color, plus the coats are very visible, rather than just being solid black. The image is nice and sharp. I like how one dog is looking happy and the other one is serious. This does not come across as just a snapshoot, but rather, a professional (love that word!) who knows what he is doing. Bill, If I ever get dogs again, I'll have to have you photograph them. Bruce Dayton - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Censorship-not
Tom wrote: I seem to be one of the few who defend the list remaining open to whatever the members of the list want to talk about. Maybe the others who want it that way are tired of the endless demands of Digest Subscribers that the list have nothing in it except what they want to read. I would say that the digest is a convenience for people who only want to partially participate in the list. It is after all a mailing list. But if everyone wants to change the list to something other than the list I subscribed to and love, go ahead. It will just no longer be a list where I want to hang out. Well, I'm frankly getting to old for this being a grown up. If this is offending it isn't meant as such. I mean, I have received complaints about posting on AF cameras, the MZ-S and what I think about my lenses on a Pentax discussion forum!. Note, it was not my opinion that was attacked but that I posted such things on PDML. And now you are telling me that posting complaints about OT messages are tedious? And that you expect to post OT without complaints? Dream on! I tell you one thing; every mailing list that practice what you preach above, posting whatever you like, turn into a hell. There are no exceptions. Regarding censorship: the only way to apply censorship on a mailing list is to post whatever you like. Nobody can stop you and you can flood this forum with your own interest regardless what other things. The only way to get what you want is to post. By posting OT you force your opinion thruogh regardless. Its the closest thing to censorship you can get because in the end the on topic stuff drowns in the noise. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Take cover!
Tom wrote: My flame was not about subject matter but about attitude. Obviously you can not see the difference, but then again you censors want to cut in and run everybody elses life. Probably because you don't have one of your own. This is with all due respect nonsense coming from someone who apply censorship by stating he can post whatever he likes. I'm interested in cars. If I want to discuss cars right here and can turn this into a Pentax car forum simply by posting car posts. I can flood you with car post. Then its me who decide what this list is all about without permission from anybody doing whatever I like - this is effective censorship inasmuch as this will over time scare away everybody not interested in Pentax and cars. This is childish behaviour... As for attitude. What attitude is it to post whatever one like? If this is the right attitude does it give me the right to call people assholes if I feel like it, without getting complaints? Attitude is to try to not offend people by avoiding posting about eg. politics and religion. That was not what they came here for. This is to show consideration which is the right attitude. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Take cover!
Aye aye aye ayeI'm glad there so many sensible people here. Pål Aye Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Slide Monitors
I'm not familiar with the Braun but I have a 'Reflecta' which I suspect is the same model/different name. The negatives: - the screen is not evenly lit and the hotspot moves around as you move your head, - lens quality is so-so. Positives - saves your back having to be bent over a sorting tray and is quick to set up and view. I've just spent 2 days on the thing looking for images to take to a landscape workshop this weekend and it made the task relatively painless. (The _real_ joy was going through slide that I haven't looked at in years.) In fact, since I bought this thing a few months back, I've done much more slide viewing. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
For sale - Screwmount
Well, it's Friday, so here are some screw mount items that other people will probably make more use of than I do. If you are interested please email me and we can discuss price. Super Takumar 35mm f3.5 with case and front and rear caps. Very good condition. Small dent in front cap lens and filter ring are ok. Soligor 90-230mm f4.5 auto-zoom with case and front and rear caps. Makinon 35-105mm f3.5 Multi-coated autozoom with front and rear caps. Hansa auto 2X converter with caps, case and original instructions. Case is in good condition the converter itself looks like it has never been used. Spotmatic SP - missing it's rewind lever. Reasonable condition otherwise. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: why EI-2000 is total CRAP, UNUSABLE for anything but strong daylight!
OK, besides me, how many PDML members shoot full manual flash (anytime)? Always a manual mode for any deliberate composiiton requiring flash. No sense in having the sensor average off something I don't intend it to use. Collin Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Edith Keiler must die. -- Spock, 1930 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Monopod for heavy camera
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:57:45 -0500, you wrote: John seems to be our Long Lens Artist In Residence. I, for one, listen to what he says on such matters. Thanks for the kind words. As we all know, PDML has several big glass shooters with as much or more experience and knowledge as I. I generally talk about what works for me, and occasionally make a foray into what theoretically is better or worse. Many photo tools are plenty good enough for the job at hand, which means personal preference becomes a valid criteria. -- John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere
I've seen this kind of address on some spam e-mails, and I've read that they are sent directly into your mail reader while online, rather than being downloaded from your ISP's mail server. That's why they have the strange address details. Just what I read but as I have no effing idea how email works I'd probably believe anything I read :) I haven't had any strangely addressed e-mail come in since I installed Sygate Personal Firewall (freeware) recently. Before that I'd get them regularly. What was scary were emails with unreadable babble in the sender and subject lines, but they turned out to be spam from Korea, and I don't have Korean language support installed. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) The ones that came my way were blank messages, the sender of which had an odd aspect to his/her email address. The addresses looked like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Note the underscore proceeding the actual address. (snip) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Slow today...etc
In a message dated 29/11/01 20:54:25 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: RE: Slow today or did i get booted off again You mean you still don't know after two years? Frits Wüthrich tom wrote: Okee dokee, moving on...I bought an FA 85/1.4 about 2 years ago. Can anyone tell me if it's any good? I'd go along with that, Frits. No, it's a dreadful old piece of junk. Toss it in the nearest dumpster have this beautiful 85mm F1.4A* instead. :) Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: New Pentax digital SLR
Pål wrote: I've been told (something that doesn't prevent it from being bull***, but anyway) that Pentax have decided to use another chip in the MZ-D. Theres no reason to automatically assume that it will be a different camera and that it will use a chip smaller than 24x36. In fact, you can expect otherwise. Pentax choose not to use the Phillips chip because it was too expensive I've heard rumors - from two different sources - that heat was also a problem. - in a short while other chip will exist that offer the same performance but at a significant lower price. I was told that digital Contax DON'T use the Phillips 6mpix chip that Pentax showed in their MZ-D prototype (can anyone confirm this?). I have a meeting with Philips Semiconductor reps in half an hour! I'll see if they know anything; the division that does the CCDs is kind of isolated from the rest of the company. Weird but true. Anyway, the bottom line is that there will be an MZ-D but with another chip that's probably full frame. Expect it within a year. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Illegal Street Photography?
I often try and shoot candid portraits at my out door horse shows but had trouble as i shoot with the SP500 and only have the 55 and 105 which meant i had to be fairly close.As soon as some one(i know most of the people at these events)saw the camera aimed at them the made a face and ran away.I'm geting a ST 200mm from a list members(m42)soon so this will help i hope. As far as street shots,done very little and so far not been shot at. Dave Begin Original Message From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:43:09 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Illegal Street Photography? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The generally accepted term literally meaning in the streets, most times a public event (arrests, fights, celebrities and the like) are fair game. If the photographer is suspected of observing a crime, s/he might be asked to surrender their film (to be receipted and returned). Some years ago I had a knock on my door and upon opening it was confronted by some firemen telling me the building (a church) was on fire and that our building was being evacuated as a precaution. So I grabbed my camera and joined the crowds on the street and thought I might get a few snaps for the local paper. About 5 mins into this I was approached by a police officer and asked if I might be able to photograph the crowd, and as I had a reasonable zoom any one else at a distance watching the fire-fighters extinguish the blaze. The point was that apparently arsonists like to hang about to see the fire and confusion they have created. When I was out of film, the officer asked for it, quite nicely, and I gave it to him. He took my particulars and told me he would return the film as I had informed him the first 2-3 shots were of my children. About a week later he contacted me by phone and asked if he might drop it off. The timing was inconvenient so he suggested I pick it up from the station at a pre-arranged time, I did this and all was well. In hind sight, I wonder what would have happened if I said no, I am a freelance photographer and want to sell the images to the press. Kind regards Kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Flash
At 04:04 30-11-2001 -0500, Mafud wrote: OK, besides me, how many PDML members shoot full manual flash (anytime)? Me. My MX and Agfatronic 261 are the only flash/camera combination I have used Wendy --- Wendy Paul Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Take cover!
Paal, go ahead and post about cars. If anyone wants to talk to you about them they will. If not I assume you are adult enough to not continue posting a dead subject. If it turns out that only one or two of you are interested, then common courtesy would suggest you take it off list. The thing about censor types is they don't think anybody has any restraint and they have to beat people over the head to get them to act reasonably. I have been on the list since before Pentax dropped it as an official list. In all that time the only actual flame war I have seen is the one that was going on when I first subscribed. Both the people involved in that war have been off and on the list since, but have not engaged in that activity. I expect folks on this list to be friendly, courteous, and self-restrained. In the couple of years I have been here they have. Occasionally, some of us get out of line. A friendly private reminder has always gotten things straightened out. As has been mentioned here before, many of us see this as list for Pentax Users, rather than a list about Pentax cameras. That makes for an interesting list. I can not imagine anyone who is not trying to make themselves out to be the Pentax Guru staying on a pure equipment list for more than a few weeks. There are people on this list who have been here for years. The way it is seems to suit most of them. --graywolf - Original Message - From: Pål Audun Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 5:16 AM Subject: Re: Take cover! Tom wrote: My flame was not about subject matter but about attitude. Obviously you can not see the difference, but then again you censors want to cut in and run everybody elses life. Probably because you don't have one of your own. This is with all due respect nonsense coming from someone who apply censorship by stating he can post whatever he likes. I'm interested in cars. If I want to discuss cars right here and can turn this into a Pentax car forum simply by posting car posts. I can flood you with car post. Then its me who decide what this list is all about without permission from anybody doing whatever I like - this is effective censorship inasmuch as this will over time scare away everybody not interested in Pentax and cars. This is childish behaviour... As for attitude. What attitude is it to post whatever one like? If this is the right attitude does it give me the right to call people assholes if I feel like it, without getting complaints? Attitude is to try to not offend people by avoiding posting about eg. politics and religion. That was not what they came here for. This is to show consideration which is the right attitude. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: November PUG comments
Bruce, Thanks for the comments. It WAS a mostly- cloudy time of the day, though the image turned out a little more gray online than it is in the print (I'm still learning the digitizing process). The crop being that shape is a function of the shape of the hole in the fence and my wanting to give some sense of where the cars were going and where they were going. I wanted to try to convey some of the sweeping effect of that turn. I tried it with more of the left side cut off but didn't like it as much. It was manually focussed. I think I picked a tire mark or a place in the rumble strip to focus on. I liked the headlights too :))) Thanks for the comments. Cory Waters missing motorsports already - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 4:32 AM Subject: November PUG comments SNIP The Esses - by Cory Waters My first glance at this made me think the fence was actually some overcase clouds. The effect is quite interesting. I'm sure Cory did not have that in mind. I had thought the panoramic crop was a little odd for this image until I viewed the uncropped one. I think that the crop is basically in the right place. It might not have hurt to crop the sides a bit too. I'm surprised by how great the DOF is. It really helps here to keep both cars in focus. For some reason, my eyes keep wandering to the right as I view this photo. I'm not sure if it is anticipation of the cars moving off to the right or some inbalance in the image. It does have a *dark* feeling to it overall. Seems like an overcast day or maybe early evening. I like the headlights begin on, but not overpowering. Catching the cars through this section seems like a tricky task. I'm curious whether you used AF or pre-focused. Cory, a very likable shot SNIP Bruce Dayton - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Illegal Street Photography?
My boyfriend had told me that there were signs all around Ground Zero saying that cameras would be confiscated. I was really nervous about this, so when I went down there, I only took my 50mm prime because I didn't want to mess around with changing lenses and stuff. When I got to the street with the signs, there was a cop there. I sort of snuck the camera out of the bag and got a couple of shots, then I moved across the street and took a couple more. But then a guy with a 200mm zoom came along and stood in the middle of the street taking pictures, and there were a couple more people with cameras, and the cop wasn't doing anything about it, so I took some more pictures and left. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Censorship-not,
Very, very well said Pål Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
developing Leonid shots
I got my Leonid shots back from Adorama, and they had only printed three photos because it looked at first glance like there was nothing else on the negatives. I looked closely and then tried scanning them. Although the scans were poor, there were indeed star streaks and a couple of meteors on the four frames I scanned. Yesterday I took them to a pro lab and asked for prints. I told the woman there that there was something on the film, even though it didn't look like it. She looked at them in the light and said that their developing machine might not be able to develop them, but they could make contact sheets for me and I could get prints made from that. Does that make any sense? Is there a different method used in developing contact sheets or something? --Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Viruses Worms Everywhere
It's known as the W32.Badtrans.B virus. It tries to pop up some kind of control panel for something and then hangs. But it is really trying to access your email list to replicate itself. My wife's machine got it last week although she didn't see it. However those are the same symptoms. In my case I saw it come in and try to make me install the Win Media module which I squashed. then I switched Outlook to offline mode and figured out which message it was and then finally got around to reinstalling the AV package I have and didn't bother in my last HD upgrade. Had to upgrade to the latest PC-cillin 2000 to get it because it won't show up in a file scan of the drive as it is imbedded in the Outlook mail box as an undetectable attachment (JavaScript). Had to use the PC2K special feature of scanning the Outlook attachments to find it. Then set the scanner to check email as I opened it. This had to be done because after rebooting and going back on line all my last 400+ messages were redownloaded again to my desktop. this means it is affecting the status of the Deleted Item list in Outlook. This time when downloaded it caught it immediately. So keep your AV tools updated. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Rittenhouse Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere The one that got me was, I think, a script embedded in an e-mail. When I selected the e-mail to delete it, it ran. It gave me a script cannot complete message. Norton did not detect it. --graywolf - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere Shel, Were they in attachments or embedded in HTML? I'd just like to know what to watch out for. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know about you all, but in the last three days I've received eleven email messages that contained a virus or a worm. Be careful out there ... -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Flash
I don't shoot flash often but when i do its: K1000,SF-1 with Vivitar285HV or my OLD 1970's Hannimex I also have a Vivitar 636AF i use sometimes. Dave Begin Original Message From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:03:39 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Flash At 04:04 30-11-2001 -0500, Mafud wrote: OK, besides me, how many PDML members shoot full manual flash (anytime)? Me. My MX and Agfatronic 261 are the only flash/camera combination I have used Wendy --- Wendy Paul Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Flash
I don't shoot flash often but when i do its: K1000,SF-1 with Vivitar285HV or my OLD 1970's Hannimex I also have a Vivitar 636AF i use sometimes. Dave Begin Original Message From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:03:39 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Flash At 04:04 30-11-2001 -0500, Mafud wrote: OK, besides me, how many PDML members shoot full manual flash (anytime)? Me. My MX and Agfatronic 261 are the only flash/camera combination I have used Wendy --- Wendy Paul Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere
That's a lot of work. Not using Outlook frees me, it seems, from having to deal with this garbage. Sorry you got infected, but, just out of curiosity, if various MS products are so susceptible to this sort of thing, why use those products? Is there some feature about Outlook that makes it more desirable compared to other mail programs? Kent Gittings wrote: It's known as the W32.Badtrans.B virus. It tries to pop up some kind of control panel for something and then hangs. But it is really trying to access your email list to replicate itself. My wife's machine got it last week although she didn't see it. However those are the same symptoms. In my case I saw it come in and try to make me install the Win Media module which I squashed. then I switched Outlook to offline mode and figured out which message it was and then finally got around to reinstalling the AV package I have and didn't bother in my last HD upgrade. Had to upgrade to the latest PC-cillin 2000 to get it because it won't show up in a file scan of the drive as it is imbedded in the Outlook mail box as an undetectable attachment (JavaScript). Had to use the PC2K special feature of scanning the Outlook attachments to find it. Then set the scanner to check email as I opened it. This had to be done because after rebooting and going back on line all my last 400+ messages were redownloaded again to my desktop. this means it is affecting the status of the Deleted Item list in Outlook. This time when downloaded it caught it immediately. So keep your AV tools updated. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Industrial site pix...
In a similar vein, here are three pics of mine which I just happened to have on my hard disk drive. They were all taken this summer at an abandoned railroad roundhouse with 100% Pentax gear. Posted for enjoyment, but comments as always are welcome! :) http://mick.maguire.net/westboro1.jpg http://mick.maguire.net/westboro2.jpg http://mick.maguire.net/westboro3.jpg Regards, /\/\ick... ++ || __/) Mick Maguire | | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (_/) ICQ: 48609010 | \/ | \ /---+ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
for sale - lomographic camera and more
I have a lomographic camera that I only used once. There's a pic of one similar to it here: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B4S9WQ/ qid=1007129118/br=1-6/ref=br_lf_p_6/002-8533228-65 17607 It works fine. $30 plus shipping takes it. I also have a Praktika that's good for parts, and a Sigma Konica mount 100-200mm macro lens. It appears to be in great condition. $40 plus shipping. By the way, I'm looking for a Kodak Signet 35. It's an antique rangefinder, and I need one in working condition. There are a few up on ebay right now, but if anyone here has one, I'd rather deal with you than with a stranger on ebay. --Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
shooting holiday lights
We're going to the Bronx Zoo tomorrow night to look at a display of holiday lights. How would I shoot something like this? Do I use a flash? Should I bring my monopod and do long exposures? Thanks, Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: BW filters
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 7:44 PM Subject: Re: BW filters On Tuesday, November 27, 2001, at 09:48 AM, Frank Wajer wrote: 1 BW UV filter 77mm E 1 BW UV filter 58mm ES Anybody know what the E and ES mean? E and ES is German language with the meaning of EinschraubfilterEinSchraub-Filter einschrauben (verb) means to screw in and A means Aufsteckfilter aufstecken = to put on Kristian-Heinrich Schuessler with many greetings from Black Forrest in Germany - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: shooting holiday lights
Hi Amita, a tripod is a must unless you are going to use 800 to 3200 ASA. I like 100 ASA f1.4 and 1/4 second exposures with a tripod and self timer or cable release. No flash. If you don`t have a f1.4 adjust the time as needed. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 6:21 AM Subject: shooting holiday lights We're going to the Bronx Zoo tomorrow night to look at a display of holiday lights. How would I shoot something like this? Do I use a flash? Should I bring my monopod and do long exposures? Thanks, Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Censorship-not,
In a message dated 11/30/01 4:07:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike is perfectly right. (SNIP) BTW This has nothing to do with censorship but acting like a grown up. Pål ___ The problem with that Mike, is that those kind of responses very quickly turn any list into hell. (SNIP) the list to something other than the list I subscribed to and love, go ahead. It will just no longer be a list where I want to hang out. __ Pål, I don't recall you or anyone coming to my defense when PDML members attacked ~me~ in ~on-topic~ posts. Day after weary day the attacks went on and... silence from the PDML or, when someone got p*ssed, the complainant complained about ~me~ defending myself. Already since I've been back, a number of PDML members have tried mightily to start a flame war with me. NOT ONE PDML member, including yourself, said one #%## W@ $%$##$ word to the provocateurs. But now you guys want to complain about what has been not even a flame war but an OT thread gone a little awry? Surely we must have order, but the complaints on this thread are disingenuous if not supercilious when you and others practice double standards. **When ~topical~ threads drone on and on, the postings wandering far afield, never even tangentially related to the thread heading, why isn't there a whoa called for them? OTs die of their own inertia and as has been suggested, ignore the thread. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: developing Leonid shots
Interesting... I shot my Leonids on slide film, and have sent them to Adorama for processing. I am still waiting to get them back. I did write in the special instructions that they would be dark as they are nighttime shots. I hope I get something back from them! Regards, /\/\ick... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Amita Guha Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 8:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: developing Leonid shots I got my Leonid shots back from Adorama, and they had only printed three photos because it looked at first glance like there was nothing else on the negatives. I looked closely and then tried scanning them. Although the scans were poor, there were indeed star streaks and a couple of meteors on the four frames I scanned. Yesterday I took them to a pro lab and asked for prints. I told the woman there that there was something on the film, even though it didn't look like it. She looked at them in the light and said that their developing machine might not be able to develop them, but they could make contact sheets for me and I could get prints made from that. Does that make any sense? Is there a different method used in developing contact sheets or something? --Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: shooting holiday lights
.and bracket a bit. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 6:28 AM Subject: Re: shooting holiday lights Hi Amita, a tripod is a must unless you are going to use 800 to 3200 ASA. I like 100 ASA f1.4 and 1/4 second exposures with a tripod and self timer or cable release. No flash. If you don`t have a f1.4 adjust the time as needed. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 6:21 AM Subject: shooting holiday lights We're going to the Bronx Zoo tomorrow night to look at a display of holiday lights. How would I shoot something like this? Do I use a flash? Should I bring my monopod and do long exposures? Thanks, Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Take cover!
On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 04:46 PM, John Coyle wrote: - but there is no excuse for bad language, insults, etc a la 'The Who' (said with fingers crossed). S! It's bad luck to say his name! -Aaron who vividly remembers the 'Flash Sync Wars' - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Censorship-not
On Friday, November 30, 2001, at 05:04 AM, Pål Audun Jensen wrote: I mean, I have received complaints about posting on AF cameras, the MZ-S and what I think about my lenses on a Pentax discussion forum!. Note, it was not my opinion that was attacked but that I posted such things on PDML. Pål, who complained about you posting about Pentax stuff? I seem to have missed that. Whoever that person was, they are an idiot. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Viruses Worms Everywhere
I had to remove W32.Badtrans.B virus from a machine this week too. Norton only added this definition a few days ago (24th I believe), so if you haven't run liveupdate since then it wont pick it up. Once I installed the latest update it removed the virus fine. You also need to check Windows Update (Microsoft) for a patch for the hole that this worm uses. HTH Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: photo printers
On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 05:04 PM, Cotty wrote: One thing I would say on this score: creating a top quality scan from a neg, and creating a good quality inkjet print from a top quality scan are two seperate things with different workflows involved. Of course, the two are very hard to judge from just the final print. Gratz on the score, Cotty! I gotta get something into the mail for Tom still. -Aaron the busy procrastinator - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Viruses Worms Everywhere
BTW an easy way to see if you have W32.Badtrans is to check for the existence of Kernel32.exe (that's EXE and *NOT* DLL) and kdll.dll in your windows system directory, as those arte the virus files. You can remove the virus by deleteting them both in safe mode. Of course you also need to delete the offending email too. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: shooting holiday lights
One of the best ways to shoot lights is to do it at a time when the contrast between the lights and the background isn't too great. So, shooting at dusk might offer greater possibilities and eliminate the need for flash. This will, of course, give you a contrast range that will include the lights and the surroundings. If, however, you're interested in just the lights with a very dark or black background, then, of course, shoot later in the evening, and meter for the lights and open up a stop or so, depending on the film used. If you have a spot meter, this becomes a simple matter. If not, get as close to the lights as possible and take your reading from there. Depending on the light/dark ratio and the pattern of your meter, you may need to stop down a little to catch the lights in all their glory. Stay away from flash at it will degrade the contrast between the lights and the background, and if you're in doubt of the proper exposure, bracket wherever possible. Make a note of the exposure and f-stops used, see which photos look the best, and then you'll have the information for similar shots in the future. Since you didn't mention what film type you'll be using, it's hard to give specific recommendations. However, here are a couple of sites to visit that may give better advice: http://www.christmasfanatic.com/photographing_lights.htm http://www.night.net/christmas/f-lights.html I remember all the wonderful trips to The Bronx Zoo that I took with my parents, so many years ago. Have fun ... Amita Guha wrote: We're going to the Bronx Zoo tomorrow night to look at a display of holiday lights. How would I shoot something like this? Do I use a flash? Should I bring my monopod and do long exposures? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX variations
My black MX serial number starts with 9. It has the AOCo logo and Asahi Pentax on the pentaprism. Asahi Opt. Co. is engraved on the back of the top cover under the film advance lever and on the plastic rectangular film tab holder. The shutter lock is all metal. The battery cover is engraved BATTERY OPEN. Luis Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cotty's Pentax Mods December update posted...
I looked at your corner of the room photo ... eerily neat and organized ... gave me the willies*. Ah, but Dan, give it time. It's only just been assembled. You shoulda seen the previous corner. There's a party of folks still lost in there somewhere - been waiting days for them to come out Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Pentax digital SLR
This seems to be in keeping with the look of how things are panning out. It must be obvious to the whole industry that the success of the Canon D30 has highlighted the need for medium-priced pro/am digi SLR. With the previous 6MP Pentax vapoware, the price would have been well within the Nikon D and upcoming Canon EOS1 D territory - but few would have been sold, seeing as how Nikon and Canon have cornered the pro market. Very few Nikon/Canon users would have swapped for a Pentax - even if it was full-frame. The next cameras from Nikon and Canon will have full frame sensors. Which leaves us, a few making there living shooting Pentax, most doing it for love, not wanting to lose all the glass, wanting good quality. If there is anyone at Pentax reading this, or anyone knows anyone at Pentax, please copy and paste the following and email it to them: -- Dear Pentax, I am an amateur Pentax user of many years, on the cusp of introducing digital image acquisition to my repertoire. I am painfully close to buying a Canon D30, and I do mean painfully. I am prepared to wait - but not for much longer. The point is, if I don't get the chance to buy a Pentax DSLR soon (before Christmas 2002 TOPS), I will, without doubt, be getting a D30, and swapping glass as appropriate. The even bigger point: very unlikely I will swap back, because then I will be caught up in the Canon Way, updating bits of kit as and when appropriate. Sure I'll keep some vintage Pentax kit, but as a company, that's of little interest to you - what you want is for me to buy a Pentax D, not a Canon D. What you want is for me to stay Pentax, so I'll then upgrade as new cameras become available, new lenses, and so on. So please, I know you're working on it, I know you're building it - give me (and all the rest of us in this situation) a quick word of confirmation. Tap out a quick press release, give it to the magazines as a filler even. But give me a confirmation that we'll see hardware on the shelves sometime SOON! Thank you. - I sometimes think that we, as Pentax users, could do a better job! Anyone want to bung some money in the hat and we'll buy out Pentax - the PDML co-operative? Cheers, Cotty I've been told (something that doesn't prevent it from being bull***, but anyway) that Pentax have decided to use another chip in the MZ-D. Theres no reason to automatically assume that it will be a different camera and that it will use a chip smaller than 24x36. In fact, you can expect otherwise. Pentax choose not to use the Phillips chip because it was too expensive - in a short while other chip will exist that offer the same performance but at a significant lower price. I was told that digital Contax DON'T use the Phillips 6mpix chip that Pentax showed in their MZ-D prototype (can anyone confirm this?). Anyway, the bottom line is that there will be an MZ-D but with another chip that's probably full frame. Expect it within a year. ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
Mafud wrote: OK, besides me, how many PDML members shoot full manual flash (anytime)? Me, I confess, Yes - I am guilty of such despicable acts :^) I set the aperture by the distance scale, even if there is an auto-thyrister function, because I want the flash level at the *subject distance*, not the bounce-back measured from some other distance according to the sensor. I have just acquired an AF280T, but I still judge the distance and set aperture accordingly and like the flash's ability to quench itself early if my distance estimate is off. Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Viruses Worms Everywhere
Hi, On 30 Nov 2001 at 10:04, Kent Gittings wrote: In my opinion at least Outlook tends to be more intuitive than using the Netscape email client. But these are only two. Two of the most common ones, and obviously the ones the viruses and worms are tested on. Personally, I'm for Pegasus Mail, but there are lots of others... I've used other products over the years but most have some limitations and as a result I tend to put up with the vulnerabilities. Which are limitations too... ;-) And by the way my wife's machine uses Netscape Communicator so it is not an Outlook specific virus. As long as your machine is set to execute JavaScript wise open it is vulnerable. True. HTML mail with embedded active or binary content will always be a risk. That's why I don't send HTML mail at all. For the scripted mails: has anybody ever seen anything really useful based on this feature? Gabor - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bulk film - how many exposures?
600+ Delano Mireles wrote: how many exposures can you roughly get off a 100' roll? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Computer Upgrade
It's time ... got a quick couple of questions. Recently it was mentioned here that some Windows OS won't support more than 256mb or 512mb of memory. How much memory will Win98SE support? What's SDRAM and RDRAM? Is one better than the other? Suggestions for a good video card? In order to hook up a scanner I need a USB port or Firewire, right. What are the advantages/disadvantages of each? Thanks! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: developing Leonid shots
Amita wrote: [Problems getting prints from astrophotographic exposures -- snipped] Hi Amita, Getting machine prints from astrophotographic exposures is problematic. I think the fundamental problem is that the machines usually can't determine the boundary between two successive exposures. (Worse yet, the technicians can't determine this visually, and they often end up cutting the film right through the middle of an exposure.) At least in my experience, it seems that the drug and department store minilab technicians haven't had enough training to know how to override the machine and manually print a specified area of the negative strip. Perhaps it isn't even possible to override some machines? I shot about half a roll of the Christmas eclipse a couple years ago and I had a devil of a time getting prints from the nearby drugstore. The central image of the partially eclipsed Sun was quite dense, but the machine just couldn't figure out where the edges were. What ~may~ help is to shoot a conventional scene at the beginning of each roll, and instruct the technician not to cut the film. This way, you'll at least have a starting point from which to reference the registration of the rest of the exposures. Another trick is to get a little bit of something terrestrial -- a tree branch, the edge of a building, a horizon -- into your shot. This usually gets exposed enough to allow the machine to see the edge of the negative frame. Hope this helps. I still haven't shot the rest of my roll that I hopefully have a few Leonids on -- been sick with the flu and haven't gotten outside with the camera yet. Maybe this weekend. Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT Re: Computer Upgrade
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] In order to hook up a scanner I need a USB port or Firewire, right. What are the advantages/disadvantages of each? You CAN use a parallel port (printer port) scanner. I had to resort to this after several USB scanners failed to work in my system's configuration (it seems like my printer driver was dis-allowing the USB to function properly- go figure). The USB is faster and a bit better than sharing the parallel port with my printer (a new printer now, but I still have the PP scanner). I don't know much about firewire. Cory Waters - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere
Shel wrote: That's a lot of work. Not using Outlook frees me, it seems, from having to deal with this garbage. Not using WinDoze is even better. One of the benefits of Macintosh's small market share is that these viro-nutz don't bother attacking since the big gorilla is much more satisfying to see brought to its knees. my system spits out .exe's such like so much rotted fruit Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
A series zoom lenses
Hello to all, I'm new to the group although I have been following your discussions on mail-archive.com for the last six months. I have the following A series zoom lenses. 24-50mm f/4, 35-105mm f/3.5 and 70-210mm f/4. I would like to know what the consensus is of these lenses pro or con. I see by your favorite lense survey that the 35-105mm is a popular one it is mine also. Any information will be highly appreciated. Regards, Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Re: Slow today or did i get booted off again
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, tom wrote: Tom Rittenhouse wrote: TV, what are you drinking? Something potent I would guess. Really bad coffee... Well, that hardly narrows it down. Can't stand the stuff, myself. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Friday Sales
I have a almost pristine zoom I want to unload. Tokina SMZ845 its an 80-200/4.5 zoom f 4.5-22, no A setting Front Rear caps, front has velcro disk for sticking somehwere when off Kalimar 52mm UV attached Has Close Focus ability/ normal min = 2meters/ close min 44cm max mag ratio 1:6.3 weight 450g 12 elements, 9 groups Tokina RMC multi-coat w/ manuals, leather pouch and Tokina flyer/book This would honestly be like a 9+ to 10 is 15 years NEW, I guess NOTE: I held this lens upside down - NO ZOOM SLIPPAGE! $45 plus SH (you pick method) or round it to $50 total if US Priority Mail is kosher! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Flash
At 04:04 30-11-2001 -0500, Mafud wrote: OK, besides me, how many PDML members shoot full manual flash (anytime)? Me. My MX and Agfatronic 261 are the only flash/camera combination I have used Me too. I have a ZX-M and a Sunpack 383 manual/auto (non-TTL) flash. I like being able to set it at 1/2, 1/4...1/16 power in manual and just add as much light as I think I need. But of course I can just set the aperture on the camera and on the little calculator on the back of the flash to different stops and use automatic mode anyway. I also think as I start trying closeup photography the automatic won't be very reliable since the light will be bouncing back from many other things beside my subject. So if I use flash for closeups I'll need manual mode, although at some point I want a camera with TTL flash. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: RE: RE: developing Leonid shots
That might be true.I try to put one of my big maples in the corner for scale.The ones i take well away from city lights have a lot of stars in them and may be better for the machines ??/ Dave Begin Original Message From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:22:33 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: developing Leonid shots I noticed that the prints they did make were the ones with some of the trees and shoreline in them. I didn't think there would be a problem because Snapfish, the online service, printed my star streaks pic last summer. But that photo had trees in it too. Perhaps the photo needs to have an obvious object in it so that the lab will know it's a good photo? I some times take star, time exposures, from the back yard and sometimes they do not print one or two.I'll have to ask them about it now. Thanks for bringing it up Dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: developing Leonid shots
Bill Peifer wrote: Worse yet, the technicians can't determine this visually, and they often end up cutting the film right through the middle of an exposure. I had this with some night-time shots of traffic and floodlit buildings recently. I sent the film off to Kodak for processing and half of the prints were 1/2 a frame out (left and right halves of prints were of adjacent frames), and several of the negs were ruined by them cutting through the middle of an exposure. I wasn't worried too much about the prints as I only wanted the negs to scan, but was annoyed about losing some good pictures through the cutting. :( Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
custom PZ-1p Batt grip
Whatever ever happened to the genius and the project that was making the custom grip/battery holder for the PZ-1p. I remember looking at the prototype page with the new shutter button he'd put on it a year ago it seems, and they were to available shortly back then. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: developing Leonid shots
Yes - I've been told a similar thing. Even just setting the self timer, standing back and holding a flashlight during the exposure. It'll give the lab a reference point. Tom C. - Original Message - From: Peifer, William [OCDUS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 8:48 AM Subject: RE: developing Leonid shots Amita wrote: [Problems getting prints from astrophotographic exposures -- snipped] Hi Amita, Getting machine prints from astrophotographic exposures is problematic. I think the fundamental problem is that the machines usually can't determine the boundary between two successive exposures. (Worse yet, the technicians can't determine this visually, and they often end up cutting the film right through the middle of an exposure.) At least in my experience, it seems that the drug and department store minilab technicians haven't had enough training to know how to override the machine and manually print a specified area of the negative strip. Perhaps it isn't even possible to override some machines? I shot about half a roll of the Christmas eclipse a couple years ago and I had a devil of a time getting prints from the nearby drugstore. The central image of the partially eclipsed Sun was quite dense, but the machine just couldn't figure out where the edges were. What ~may~ help is to shoot a conventional scene at the beginning of each roll, and instruct the technician not to cut the film. This way, you'll at least have a starting point from which to reference the registration of the rest of the exposures. Another trick is to get a little bit of something terrestrial -- a tree branch, the edge of a building, a horizon -- into your shot. This usually gets exposed enough to allow the machine to see the edge of the negative frame. Hope this helps. I still haven't shot the rest of my roll that I hopefully have a few Leonids on -- been sick with the flu and haven't gotten outside with the camera yet. Maybe this weekend. Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Computer Upgrade
Shel, Doesn't mean they can't use more just can't be used for program storage. Everything from Win2K on up can use as much as you can put in it. This is from the underlying NT technology. Win95 could use as much as 32MB for program loading. Win98 what ever version was up to 64MB for program space I think and WinMe can use up to 128 MB I think from memory. I know my home WinMe machine (Celeron II 1.1 GHz, 320 MB RAM, ATA/100 40 GB drive, Hercules Prophet 4500 64 MB video) showed no speed improvement on the TestCPU v0.96 program when I went above 128 MB. So I plan on upping it to Win2K Pro sometime next week as it does my digital camera input and conversion. As for your specific questions 128MB in Win98SE is a good amount. Computers use either SDRAM or RDRAM but can't use both as the chipsets are not compatible. If you plan on going for a motherboard upgrade go either for an Athlon XP or a Pentium 4 CPU model. For cost/speed reasons the best deal is to get a board that uses DDR PC2100 266 MHz SDRAM modules. About 1/2 the cost of RDRAM and hard to tell apart in real world running. As for video go for either a GeForce 2 MX400, Ultra, GeForce 3, Kyro II, or ATI Radeon 8500 based board with 64 MB of DDR video memory. I think the Kyro II based Hercules Prophet 4500 is the best deal of the lot but you really can't go too wrong with any of those just that some are pricey. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:58 AM To: Pentax List Subject: Computer Upgrade It's time ... got a quick couple of questions. Recently it was mentioned here that some Windows OS won't support more than 256mb or 512mb of memory. How much memory will Win98SE support? What's SDRAM and RDRAM? Is one better than the other? Suggestions for a good video card? In order to hook up a scanner I need a USB port or Firewire, right. What are the advantages/disadvantages of each? Thanks! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Bogen 3047 Deluxe 3-Way Pan/Tilt Head
I have a Bogen 3047 Deluxe 3-Way Pan/Tilt Head with Quick Release for sale. I've had it for about two years and have used it 3 - 4 times. It's like new. It has two bubble levels and will support camera/lens up to 16.5 lbs. New price is $75. Will sell for $40 + shipping or make offer. Tom C. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Spotted on eBay
In a message dated 30/11/01 15:30:27 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: Spotted on eBay Spotted on eBay: K-mount Tokina 28-70 2.8 Who are these lazy people with no pix? Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Computer Upgrade
Hi Kent ... Thanks for the info ... have a couple more questions though. Doesn't mean they can't use more just can't be used for program storage. I don't understand what you mean by that. What is program storage? Isn't the program stored on the hard drive? If there's a program that uses 150mb to run, where are all those megabytes kept? In memory? On the disk? Then, if the program, say a photo editing program, loads an image of 50mb, where is that kept? And if there are three or four images loaded, totaling 200mb, where is that information kept? especially in regard to your comment about 128mb being sufficient. As for your specific questions 128MB in Win98SE is a good amount. More would be better, or not? As for video go for either a GeForce 2 MX400, Ultra, GeForce 3, Kyro II, or ATI Radeon 8500 based board with 64 MB of DDR video memory. Thanks - I was actually looking at an ATI Radeon. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Bulk film - how many exposures?
Delano, I get about 18 rolls of 36 exposure. Bruce Friday, November 30, 2001, 7:31:24 AM, you wrote: DM Along the same lines. how many exposures can you roughly get off a 100' DM roll? DM Delano From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:25:37 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bulk film - Original Message - From: Delano Mireles Subject: Bulk film Can someone explain how a bulk film loader works and when do you think it is worth it to use? You put a long roll of film into the loader, and then attach a film cassette to the end of the film and close the thing. You then roll off the desired number of exposures into the cassette. You can no longer use the film up to the last frame, as it is light fogged at the end (unless you tape the film on and close the cassette in the dark). I think bulk loading is most useful when self processing film as most bulk loaded film that I have seen, including my own, has the tape stuck too far along the film. It then binds the cutter blades on the minilab style film processors and causes a cutter failure. This results in the film being pulled off the leader card, where it then sits in the developer until someone notices and pulls it out. If you are lucky, no one elses film gets wrecked in the process. Minilabs generally have no way of going dark, so a film fallen off in the developer is pretty much a write off. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . DM - DM This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, DM go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to DM visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Bulk film
Delano, I have Adorama's loader. Based on what I have read of the others, this is a good one. No felt in the light trap to catch particles and start scratching your film and good counters for number of frames (including leader) and amount left on the big roll. I can heartily recommend it. BTW, stick with metal cartridges. I have found the plastic ones tend to bind just a bit and causes strain on the autowinder motor. Bruce Dayton Friday, November 30, 2001, 7:27:35 AM, you wrote: DM Thanks to Bill and Tiger for the responses. Can either of you (or anyone) DM recommend which loader to go with or at least what to look for? DM Thanks again, DM Delano From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:25:37 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bulk film - Original Message - From: Delano Mireles Subject: Bulk film Can someone explain how a bulk film loader works and when do you think it is worth it to use? You put a long roll of film into the loader, and then attach a film cassette to the end of the film and close the thing. You then roll off the desired number of exposures into the cassette. You can no longer use the film up to the last frame, as it is light fogged at the end (unless you tape the film on and close the cassette in the dark). I think bulk loading is most useful when self processing film as most bulk loaded film that I have seen, including my own, has the tape stuck too far along the film. It then binds the cutter blades on the minilab style film processors and causes a cutter failure. This results in the film being pulled off the leader card, where it then sits in the developer until someone notices and pulls it out. If you are lucky, no one elses film gets wrecked in the process. Minilabs generally have no way of going dark, so a film fallen off in the developer is pretty much a write off. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . DM - DM This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, DM go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to DM visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: custom PZ-1p Batt grip
I've been watching for that one too. Still vaporware, I fear. Len --- - Original Message - From: Tiger Moses [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:38 AM Subject: custom PZ-1p Batt grip Whatever ever happened to the genius and the project that was making the custom grip/battery holder for the PZ-1p. I remember looking at the prototype page with the new shutter button he'd put on it a year ago it seems, and they were to available shortly back then. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bulk film
- Original Message - From: Delano Mireles Subject: Re: Bulk film Thanks to Bill and Tiger for the responses. Can either of you (or anyone) recommend which loader to go with or at least what to look for? I have 2 Lloyds loaders and a Watson. The Lloyds is the ultimate in simple design, but it has a felt lipped light trap that must be cleaned before loading a new roll of film. The Watson is a bit more complicated, having a fairly accurate exposure counter ( with the Lloyd you count turns of the crank) and a rotating drum that works as a light baffle. It does put a pressure mark on the film when closed though, from time to time. The Watson is also a bit more of a film hog if you are using it in daylight, as you have to pull about 3 inches of film past the light baffle to load the cassette. If you are good in the dark, go with the Watson, if you don't mind not knowing exactly how many exposures your film is, go with the Lloyd. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Spotted on eBay
They're rather foolish. It's tough to interest buyers without pictures of the item being auctioned. Then again, there are others that use pictures that are not of the item they are selling, too. That's just plain dishonest. Len --- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 11:06 AM Subject: Re: Spotted on eBay In a message dated 30/11/01 15:30:27 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: Spotted on eBay Spotted on eBay: K-mount Tokina 28-70 2.8 Who are these lazy people with no pix? Kind regards Peter - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Re: What We All Need
More RAM should definitely help--and as cheap as RAM is nowadays, everyone doing photoshop should be able to afford enough (mine has its original 64mb + 3 x 256mb chips added by me). Big, fast harddrives have become amazingly affordable, too. Photoshop is still an arm and leg though. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom wrote: x-charset iso-8859-1Thanks! My next $75 is going towards 384mb RAM to upgrade my PIII. Maybe Photoshop will run reasonably fast then. BTW, it's an HP Pavilion. Currently has 64mb RAM, Win98 V2, PIII 500, 8mb video ram, 20gig hard drive. I have never seen a machine access the hard drive so often as this one does. I'm not overly impressed with it. 384mb RAM is the most it'll take. Tom C. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Spotted on eBay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spotted on eBay: K-mount Tokina 28-70 2.8 Who are these lazy people with no pix? And what, exactly, is that particular lazy person selling? Tokina makes a 28-70/2.6-2.8 as well as a 28-80/2.8... but they don't make a 28-70/2.8 -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Computer Upgrade
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Computer Upgrade It's time ... got a quick couple of questions. Recently it was mentioned here that some Windows OS won't support more than 256mb or 512mb of memory. How much memory will Win98SE support? Hi Shel, I just went through this The best advice I got was that Win 98 (either V1 or V2) will not address more than 512mb of RAM, so that was what I ended up with on my new rig. What's SDRAM and RDRAM? Is one better than the other? I think the best one is what will plug into your mother board I don't have a clue. I was told that for some reason that sounded like Swahili to me, you want your RAM to be identical chips, so don't put a 256MB and a couple of 128mb ram chips on. Put 2 x 256 MB chips on instead. Suggestions for a good video card? I ended up with an ATI Radeon VE dual display. It has 32 mb of RAM on board, but it seems fime for digital image editing, which isn't exactly fast moving graphics, and supports my new Samsung Synchmaster 955 DF up to an embarassingly high screen resolution at 32 bit colour with a good refresh rate. Make sure the card will support a refresh rate of at least 75hz at the largest resolution yo want to use, and 85hz to 100hz at the resolution you normally work at. My normal resolution is 1024 x 768, at 200hz. The faster refresh rate keeps the screen from flickering, and causing headaches and road rage. The scond monitor is nice, as I can heep the image and tool bar on the main screen, and have pallettes and tool windows open on the second screen. Very handy. In order to hook up a scanner I need a USB port or Firewire, right. What are the advantages/disadvantages of each? I am still using an SCSI interface. It is very fast. Firewire, apparently is also fast. I have heard that USB is slow, but this is second hand information from me. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: New Pentax digital SLR
Well, I just got the the engineers from Philips Semiconductor to buy me lunch so the day wasn't a total loss ;-) The people I met with today didn't have any information on any of the Philips CCD products (as I expected) but one of them said he could easily find out if Contax is using the Philips part in their camera. I'll email him tomorrow and remind him. I expect that Contax *isn't* using the Philips part. My bet is on Sony as the supplier. Stay tuned. -- Original Message -- I've been told (something that doesn't prevent it from being bull***, but anyway) that Pentax have decided to use another chip in the MZ-D. Theres no reason to automatically assume that it will be a different camera and that it will use a chip smaller than 24x36. In fact, you can expect otherwise. Pentax choose not to use the Phillips chip because it was too expensive - in a short while other chip will exist that offer the same performance but at a significant lower price. I was told that digital Contax DON'T use the Phillips 6mpix chip that Pentax showed in their MZ-D prototype (can anyone confirm this?). Anyway, the bottom line is that there will be an MZ-D but with another chip that's probably full frame. Expect it within a year. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Computer security.
Is there a way to set up Lookout Express to not accept html messages at all? It seems to me the best way to deal with email scripts is to have them nuked at the server level. The option doesn't seem to be in the message rules tool. One thing I have done is removed VBS from my machines recognized file types. What other filetypes could I remove from the recognized list to bolster my machines security? Private replies are welcomed. Sorry for the OT post. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PDML Members Web Sites List Update
Cool--I didn't know such a site existed! Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul wrote: Hi, The PDML members web sites list has been updated, it can be viewed at www.nrg666.com/pdml.html Cheers, Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Bulk film
William, That is interesting about the film hog bit. My Adorama loader only needs about 1.5 inches for daylight loading. The more I hear about others, the more happy I am with the unit. I wonder who makes it for them? Anybody know? Bruce Dayton Friday, November 30, 2001, 9:42:49 AM, you wrote: WR - Original Message - WR From: Delano Mireles WR Subject: Re: Bulk film Thanks to Bill and Tiger for the responses. Can either of you WR (or anyone) recommend which loader to go with or at least what to look WR for? WR I have 2 Lloyds loaders and a Watson. The Lloyds is the ultimate WR in simple design, but it has a felt lipped light trap that must WR be cleaned before loading a new roll of film. The Watson is a WR bit more complicated, having a fairly accurate exposure counter WR ( with the Lloyd you count turns of the crank) and a rotating WR drum that works as a light baffle. It does put a pressure mark WR on the film when closed though, from time to time. The Watson is WR also a bit more of a film hog if you are using it in daylight, WR as you have to pull about 3 inches of film past the light baffle WR to load the cassette. If you are good in the dark, go with the WR Watson, if you don't mind not knowing exactly how many exposures WR your film is, go with the Lloyd. WR William Robb WR - WR This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, WR go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to WR visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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On Friday, November 30, 2001, at 10:20 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: That was too easy. Was Professional: The Musical really all that long ago? I'm still killing myself laughing over that Provia song! -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Computer security.
William Robb wrote: Is there a way to set up Lookout Express to not accept html messages at all? I don't think so :( I use Outlook at work and haven't been able to do so. I can only block image loading through judicious use of Zone Alarm. It seems to me the best way to deal with email scripts is to have them nuked at the server level. I agree. The option doesn't seem to be in the message rules tool. Unfortunately true. One thing I have done is removed VBS from my machines recognized file types. What other filetypes could I remove from the recognized list to bolster my machines security? .js and .wsh and .shx Actually, what I've done with these file types is not remove them but set the default action to be open in text editor so I can still run them if I so choose (by right-clicking and selecting RUN). I highly recommend Pegasus Mail (http://www.pmail.com/) as a free alternative to Outhouse Express. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: November PUG comments
- Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: November PUG comments The Fellas - by William Robb I'm impressed by how well behaved the dogs are. They appear to enjoy having their picture taken. Good, strong color, plus the coats are very visible, rather than just being solid black. The image is nice and sharp. I like how one dog is looking happy and the other one is serious. This does not come across as just a snapshoot, but rather, a professional (love that word!) who knows what he is doing. Bill, If I ever get dogs again, I'll have to have you photograph them. Hi Bruce, Thanks for the kind comments. This would classify as a professional photograph. I used a fairly simple lighting set up, two heads with 20 inch diffused reflectors, and barn doors for light control. We shot 16 dog portraits at the kennel club right after a protection seminar. Rollei was still a bit geared, which I suspect is the source of the rather stern expression. Leica found the seminar a bit more stressful, and this shows in her open mouth panting, which is not something she normally does. I over exposed the Portra 160 by one stop to make sure I secured as much detail as possible on the shadow side. This made the negs a bit heavey, but as the entire scene range was only a few stops, it was well within the filma ability to handle. I could probably have given an additional stop of exposure. One of the things I like about photographing my dogs is that they are obedient and trusting enough to do what they are asked to do. This was a particularly easy portrait, as all I did was place one dog, tell her stay, place the second dog, give a stay command and then went back to the camera. A few soft words to get them looking in my direction, and I had secured the picture. That was the only exposure I made of the two together. I knew I didn't have to make a second one when I tripped the shutter. Thanks again William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: shooting holiday lights
Not with a 1-degree spot meter. Tom Rittenhouse wrote: Actually metering is something of a bug-a-boo under these types of situations. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
In a message dated 11/30/01 2:00:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You guys should really try TTL flash, or better yet P-TTL if you have the new FA360FGZ and MZ-S. It really makes your approach redundant. Even with my AF280T and plain old TTL I find well balanced exposures. If I have some highly reflective foreground, I use bounce to even out the light; try that with manual calculations. Cheers, Mike. Hey Mike! You forgot your camera and there is a function you could shoot but you only have access to a 283 with a broken sensor and a K1000, meaning raw manual flash shooting if you hope to get any photos at all. And since the 283 does not have a distance scale, what are ~you~ going to do? We know me and Bill can get along just fine but what are ~you~ going to do without at least a rudimentary background in shooting manual flash? Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Computer Upgrade
What's a MOBO? What's a P1V and a Dragon ATX? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MOBO is the limiting factor Shel, not the OS. The MOBO in this machine supports up to 1.5GIG of RAM. The new PlV and Dragon ATX MOBOs support up to 3 GIG RAM! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Computer Upgrade
In a message dated 11/30/01 4:26:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's a MOBO? What's a P1V and a Dragon ATX? Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Computer Upgrade
In line comments --graywolf - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Computer Upgrade - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Computer Upgrade It's time ... got a quick couple of questions. Recently it was mentioned here that some Windows OS won't support more than 256mb or 512mb of memory. How much memory will Win98SE support? Hi Shel, I just went through this The best advice I got was that Win 98 (either V1 or V2) will not address more than 512mb of RAM, so that was what I ended up with on my new rig. I have seen this 512meg limitation mentioned several times, I have also seen computers running more. I may be the cache limitation. On Win95 machines only 128meg would be cached, but you could run more it just wouldn't be as fast as the first 128. What's SDRAM and RDRAM? Is one better than the other? I think the best one is what will plug into your mother board I don't have a clue. I was told that for some reason that sounded like Swahili to me, you want your RAM to be identical chips, so don't put a 256MB and a couple of 128mb ram chips on. Put 2 x 256 MB chips on instead. Pick the one that your MB is speced for. RDRAM only works with Pentium 4 processors AFAIK. All the ram in the same bank should be identical. Most new PC computers use one piece of ram per bank. That wasn't always so, and if you have a 64 bit MB it isn't so now. Check your MB manual. Suggestions for a good video card? I ended up with an ATI Radeon VE dual display. It has 32 mb of RAM on board, but it seems fime for digital image editing, which isn't exactly fast moving graphics, and supports my new Samsung Synchmaster 955 DF up to an embarassingly high screen resolution at 32 bit colour with a good refresh rate. Make sure the card will support a refresh rate of at least 75hz at the largest resolution yo want to use, and 85hz to 100hz at the resolution you normally work at. My normal resolution is 1024 x 768, at 200hz. The faster refresh rate keeps the screen from flickering, and causing headaches and road rage. The scond monitor is nice, as I can heep the image and tool bar on the main screen, and have pallettes and tool windows open on the second screen. Very handy. Pretty good information. The thing to know is if you are not going to use animation such as in games, or video you can get by with a lot less video card. If you are a gamer you probably know, better than most of us, what works. On yes, a pet peave, serious graphic card such as used in high end CAD and Video workstations don't cost hundreds of dollars they cost thousands. See ATI Fire GL4 for an example of a workstation graphics card. In order to hook up a scanner I need a USB port or Firewire, right. What are the advantages/disadvantages of each? I am still using an SCSI interface. It is very fast. Firewire, apparently is also fast. I have heard that USB is slow, but this is second hand information from me. Pick your scanner then get the kind of card that supports it. In decending order of speed SCSI-160, firewire, usb, parallel port. USB seems to work well with low end flatbed scanners. Film scanners work better with SCSI, or firewire. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Computer Upgrade
- Original Message - From: Tom Rittenhouse Subject: Re: Computer Upgrade In line comments --graywolf -- -- - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Computer Upgrade It's time ... got a quick couple of questions. Recently it was mentioned here that some Windows OS won't support more than 256mb or 512mb of memory. How much memory will Win98SE support? Hi Shel, I just went through this The best advice I got was that Win 98 (either V1 or V2) will not address more than 512mb of RAM, so that was what I ended up with on my new rig. I have seen this 512meg limitation mentioned several times, I have also seen computers running more. I may be the cache limitation. On Win95 machines only 128meg would be cached, but you could run more it just wouldn't be as fast as the first 128. The way it was explained to me, you can put as much ram on as the mother board will support, but Win 98 will not address more than 512. All that is happenning after that is you ar stuffing up your computer by tying up excess ports. Anyway, that just what the guy at the computer store told me when I was asking about having 768mb of ram put on my new machine. Also, pardon the typo, I am getting a refresh rate of 100hz, not 200 at 1024 x 768. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Website Update
I just updated my website with a few new photos from a trip last summer. The pics were generally taken with my trusty (though fragile) LX, usually with an A 28-135 f4. A handful were produced with the Pz-1p. If you're interested, stop by and click on the link entitled 5 Nights in Skanee. The url is: http://www.markcassino.com Cheers - - MCC - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Computer Upgrade
Shel Belinkoff wrote: What's a MOBO? What's a P1V and a Dragon ATX? MOBO = motherboard (or mainboard for those who do not like what might be construed as sexist connotations.) The center of the system -- the big board that everything else plugs into -- CPU, memory chips, sound and video cards, various other cards and connections for peripherals, etc. P1V = Pentium 4, latest in Intel CPU series, offering the fastest speeds. Dragon ATX must be a particular brand of MOBO. ATX is the form factor for the MOBO -- shape and size. Pretty much the current standard. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bulk film
Delano, I use the Alden 74 which is pretty popular and easy to acquire. I load the cassettes in the dark so there is no waste of film. It is fairly easy to do once you do it a few times. Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:27:35 -0600 From: Delano Mireles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bulk film Thanks to Bill and Tiger for the responses. Can either of you (or anyone) recommend which loader to go with or at least what to look for? Thanks again, Delano __ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Computer Upgrade
In a message dated 11/30/01 4:26:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's a MOBO? MOtherboard. What's a P1V and a Dragon ATX? PlV = Pentium 4, Dragon ATX are both high performance Motherboards. You can buy either w/processors for under $300. **Add a 400 watt case ($80) and RAM and you could be running a 1.4 GIG scream-machine for under $450. You'd load your OS and a new HDD (hard disk drive), then reload all your programs, about two days work part-time. Of course I recommend partitioning your drives (old or new) first then load the OS. *The new Pentium 4 motherboards run at a bus speed of 400, the ATXs at up to 266. **A SYK7ADA ATX Socket A Motherboard w/1.4 GIG Athlon processor, bus speed up to 266, sells for $260. It takes 3GB of DDR RAM. A 4-port Firewire card for the computer is $60. Of course there are other more expensive or cheaper MOBO/processor combinations than what I suggest above, any real, serious upgrade ~starts~ with a new Motherboard/processor. **And while some RAM is inexpensive as in $24 for 256MB of SDRAM (PC100/133, 168 pin), some RAM, like 256MB of DDR RAM costs $60. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Computer Upgrade
Bill, What size and type monitor did you end up with. I remember the comment to get 75hz or better for the refresh rate, but judging that involves some digging. Regards, Bob S. William Robb wrote: Also, pardon the typo, I am getting a refresh rate of 100hz, not 200 at 1024 x 768. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Computer Upgrade
- Original Message - From: Bob S Subject: Re: Computer Upgrade Bill, What size and type monitor did you end up with. I remember the comment to get 75hz or better for the refresh rate, but judging that involves some digging. Hi Bob I ended up with a Samsung Synchmaster 19 flat screen, .20 dot pitch. I am using it as my primary, and I have a cheapo Daytek piece of junk that came with the computer sitting just above and to the right of it as the secondary. My film scanner sits below the Samsung (I built a stand that raised the monitor about 5 inches) and my printer sits below the second monitor. It is not the best set up, as the second screen is high up, but it is also easy to ignore if I am not actually looking at it. This is a good thing, as it really is a crappy monitor. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: RE: developing Leonid shots
Interesting. You'd think that the clear space between pictures would give the machine a clue. Len --- Machine prints machine can't find edge of the picture...too much black for automatic printing. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
December PUG favourites
Interesting PUG this month. I felt it was a real chore because the constraints in sticking with the 'Synchronicity' theme were rigid - it felt like someone telling me to go do something in their time-frame and not mine. I think for this reason, lots of us took shots we perhaps wouldn't normally do. This isn't necessarily a bad thing - coming up with some creativity to order when one is maybe not in the mood is a mountainous task. Some very interesting images, interesting subjects. All very well executed. Two that caught my eye for an extra-long look: 'The Party is Over' Gianfranco Irlanda Another superb study. Shots like this either work or they don't, and this one most definitely does! Excellent relationship between the hands. Don't need to see the faces. The cups and things on the table nice and soft - peripheral items that we glimpse and then discard, instantly they tell their part of the story. This pic could only work in mono for me. And work it does. Pic of the Month. 'Synchronicity Sophie' Darryn Richter Great lighting. We don't know what Sophie is looking at, but she's seeing it through a child's eyes, and that's the wonderful feeling this picture evokes. The toning is a nice touch. Again, I love the lighting. Well done! I liked Wendy Beard's son in Wal-Mart, I liked Matjaz's backlit tree. The WTC images were poignant and sobering. Annsan's rooftop view would be any other city skyline, except that we know that the dust carries the voices of many fallen people. It's going to take a long time to recover from that. Cheers from England. Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My PUG Picks
My personal favorite is St. Petersburg, City Centre, by Sergey SHP. I like the contrast between the sun and bright ground outside and the dark interior figures in the foreground. I also like the contrast between the soft focus on the distant figures and the sharper foreground focus. It gives the shot a dreamy feeling. Is that St. Isaac's dome in the distance? Who's giant foot is that in the right foreground, and where is that statue located? -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Illegal Street Photography?
Well, I don't know too much about the law, and how it pertains specifically to photographing crime scenes, but I do know a little bit about criminal law. I don't know how photographing police officers at their work impedes anything. It may piss them off, but it doesn't impede them from carrying out thier duties - assuming that you're far enough away from the action that you're not physically impeding them from moving about. If an officer thinks that you've photographed relevent evidence, he or she may ask you for the film, but as far as I know, one has no obligation to hand it over. If you refuse to hand it over, they can subpoena the film, or subpoena both you and the film, for any future court case. But if one refuses to hand it over, I believe that an arrest would be an intolerable abuse of power, and an illegal arrest and imprisonment to boot. To illegally arrest a photograper in order to seize film would probably taint that evidence to the extent that it couldn't be used in court. That's not to say that nasty officers wouldn't threaten arrest. That's not to say that they wouldn't actually arrest someone in order to get their film. But such an arrest would, imho, be highly illegal, and leave the arresting officer potentially liable in a fairly large civil suit. And, if they did subpoena the film as evidence, it would have to be returned to the rightful owner after the court proceedings, just as any other evidence has to be. Of course, what the law is, and how police officers act are sometimes two different things... regards, frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the officer wanted to be nasty, he could have cited you for impeding an ongoing investigation. Your defense? None for in effect, you would be guilty. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: RE: developing Leonid shots
- Original Message - From: Len Paris Subject: Re: RE: developing Leonid shots Interesting. You'd think that the clear space between pictures would give the machine a clue. Unfortunately, often the entire film is clear space, with no visible frame delineation. This happens a lot with pictures such as meteor showers, fireworks and theatre/ concerts. We just give the film back to the custome uncut, hand them sissors and sleeving and let them do it themselves on the light table. William Robb Len --- Machine prints machine can't find edge of the picture...too much black for automatic printing. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Spotted on eBay
John Glover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They do make this lens as I have it in front of me right now Doh! Never thought they might have made one in the past that isn't in the current catalog. Felling dumb. And I do have pictures:) -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Illegal Street Photography?
As an addendum, I should add (I guess that's what you do in an addendum) a couple of things: Firstly, what I wrote in my previous post is my understanding of what the law is in Common Law countries (ie: Britain, the US, the Commonwealth countries). It may be way different in other jurisdictions. BTW, it isn't a legal opinion, it's just an opinion. Secondly, I'm not saying that anyone should refuse to co-operate with the cops. I'm just saying what I understand that they can legally do or not do. In that situation (where an officer demands my film), I'd probably co-operate myself. Ending up with a smashed camera, and having the officer say later, I didn't do it, he must have dropped it in the melee, doesn't suit me. And third, I'm not saying that cops are all a bunch of jerks who illegally seize film from poor photogs. Some cops are jerks, just like some photographers are jerks. No more so, no less so. And let's face it, officers have to work under extreme stress at times, and sometimes make bad decisions at such times, just like all of us. Problem is, because of the large amount of power they have, when the police are jerks, it can be a scary thing. In my opinion, anyway... And, last of all, matters of national security (referring to Brendan's experience) may legally be different. I could understand why Canada's Navy would be embarassed to have anyone photographing those leaky buckets of bolts even in a peaceful situation. I heard last week that there's a water shortage aboard our ships that are on their way to Afghanistan. I'm not sure if they've gotten there yet. Sheesh, a water shortage on a boat! And, they haven't even started to fight yet! regards, frank - a Canuck and proud of it! frank theriault wrote: Well, I don't know too much about the law, and how it pertains specifically to photographing crime scenes, but I do know a little bit about criminal law. I don't know how photographing police officers at their work impedes anything. It may piss them off, but it doesn't impede them from carrying out thier duties - assuming that you're far enough away from the action that you're not physically impeding them from moving about. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A series zoom lenses
All 3 are excellent lenses. regards, Alan Chan I'm new to the group although I have been following your discussions on mail-archive.com for the last six months. I have the following A series zoom lenses. 24-50mm f/4, 35-105mm f/3.5 and 70-210mm f/4. I would like to know what the consensus is of these lenses pro or con. I see by your favorite lense survey that the 35-105mm is a popular one it is mine also. Any information will be highly appreciated. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Illegal Street Photography?
Hi, things are pretty bad in France at the moment:- http://www.vjgroup.org/apfrench.htm --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, November 30, 2001, 11:13:43 PM, you wrote: Well, I don't know too much about the law, and how it pertains specifically to photographing crime scenes, but I do know a little bit about criminal law. I don't know how photographing police officers at their work impedes anything. It may piss them off, but it doesn't impede them from carrying out thier duties - assuming that you're far enough away from the action that you're not physically impeding them from moving about. If an officer thinks that you've photographed relevent evidence, he or she may ask you for the film, but as far as I know, one has no obligation to hand it over. If you refuse to hand it over, they can subpoena the film, or subpoena both you and the film, for any future court case. But if one refuses to hand it over, I believe that an arrest would be an intolerable abuse of power, and an illegal arrest and imprisonment to boot. To illegally arrest a photograper in order to seize film would probably taint that evidence to the extent that it couldn't be used in court. That's not to say that nasty officers wouldn't threaten arrest. That's not to say that they wouldn't actually arrest someone in order to get their film. But such an arrest would, imho, be highly illegal, and leave the arresting officer potentially liable in a fairly large civil suit. And, if they did subpoena the film as evidence, it would have to be returned to the rightful owner after the court proceedings, just as any other evidence has to be. Of course, what the law is, and how police officers act are sometimes two different things... regards, frank - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Vivitar 100-500
Hey gang I've got a Vivitar 100-500 /5.6-8 that's sitting around in it's hard case collecting dust. It's got a PKA/R mount on it. In VERY GOOD condition. Any taker? Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
