Re: list test
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm probably your culprit as I sent a direct message (well cc:'s at least) to a bunch of the folks on the pdml that complained the list was down. Nah, I was thinking of using that as a spring board to the Ghetto PDML list to cope with my losses. :) -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
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Re: list test
In a message dated 10/8/02 7:40:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The camera is at the present some $9,000.00 USD, but that price will drop. The next year or two will be critical in the digital vs. film race for resolution. And Pentax hasn't even entered the fray. This is a MAJOR blunder by them. Here we go again. You said it yourself. It's $9,000 but the price will come down. You're not going to pay $9,000. I'm not going to pay $9,000. No-one on this list will pay $9,000. When the prices come down Pentax will play and we will all be in the market. Patience, patience. Vic
Re: Ok now, what were we arguing about before? :)
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Steve Desjardins wrote: So what's a 645? 8^) Why, I'm glad you asked.. its my shiny new (used) camera which, I hope, should be waiting for me on my doorstep when I go home. I actually think it was my sheer glee at purchasing the 645 that destroyed the list, clearly fate and luck conspired to punish me and squelch those good feelings. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
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Extreme Telephoto poll ends on Thursday
Hoooray, the list works again Or so it seems. So NOW start the last 24 hours of my collecting votes for the SMC Pentax K-Mount Extreme Telephoto Prime Lens Poll!! As you know, you are invited to choose 3 lenses among the SMC Pentax K-mount primes with focal length between 300mm and 2000mm. Please IMAGINE that you have no exreme telephoto prime lens for your k-mount camera (maybe you need not to imagine this). Also imagine that you have more than enough money and a good opportunity to buy k-mount SMC Pentax EXTREME telephoto prime lenses. What SMC Pentax k-mount EXTREME telephoto lens would you like to get (and use!) most (1st choice)? What lens would you pick as your 2nd choice, if your first choice was not available? What lens would you pick as your 3rd choice (if your 1st and 2nd choice were not available)? Please choose among the following lenses: A*300/f2.8 EDIF FA*300/f2.8 EDIF K300/f4 M*300/f4 A*300/f4 F*300/f4.5 EDIF FA*300/f4.5 EDIF A*400/f2.8 K400/f5.6 M400/f5.6 A400/f5.6 FA*400/f5.6 EDIF K500/f4.5 F*600/f4 EDIF FA*600/f4 EDIF A*600/f5.6 EDIF K1000/f8 K1000/f11 Reflex A*1200/f8 EDIF K2000/f13.5 Reflex M2000/f13.5 Reflex Rules: 1.) Pick your 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice (please choose different lenses, because only per lens only one choice will be counted). You may choose less than 3 but not more than 3 choices. 2.) Please send your vote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exception: Send your vote to the PDML if you have commented your choices, and you want the members of the PDML to know your comments. 3.) I will count all votes that are sent before Thursday, October 10th, 15:00 hours German time. Arnold
Re: list test
Just got back from Algonquin Park where I spent a few days shooting fall colour, moose and other goings on. had the opportunity to get some nice moose shots (Mom with her two young calves) and early morning mist coming off the lake. Anyway, since the list is back up and running, I thought I would ask a question. Here it is. While I was out in Algonquin, despite having a complete bag full of lenses from 24mm to 300, I felt myself gravitating toward the FA28-105 lens. Even when I was shooting with the LX, that's the lens that was most often on the camera. It's just the perfect do-it-all lens. Does anyone else feel the same way...? Vic PS- I would like to get my hands on a real nice 28-105 manual focus lens for use with the LX. The 35 to 105 is nice but wouldn't it be nice if it was a little wider?
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Re: testing
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Re: list test
I spent 9 days in the Muskoka/Haliburton area. My wifa was shooting with the ESPIO (32mm) and I was shooting 50/50 with the GSW690 (28mm equiv.) and the G690 (43mm equiv.). I only wish I had my SP with the 90mm Macro ( strictly for macro shots). Jeff - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:49 AM Subject: Re: list test Just got back from Algonquin Park where I spent a few days shooting fall colour, moose and other goings on. had the opportunity to get some nice moose shots (Mom with her two young calves) and early morning mist coming off the lake. Anyway, since the list is back up and running, I thought I would ask a question. Here it is. While I was out in Algonquin, despite having a complete bag full of lenses from 24mm to 300, I felt myself gravitating toward the FA28-105 lens. Even when I was shooting with the LX, that's the lens that was most often on the camera. It's just the perfect do-it-all lens. Does anyone else feel the same way...? Vic PS- I would like to get my hands on a real nice 28-105 manual focus lens for use with the LX. The 35 to 105 is nice but wouldn't it be nice if it was a little wider?
Re: Extreme Telephoto poll ends on Thursday
Please IMAGINE that you have no exreme telephoto prime lens for your k-mount camera (maybe you need not to imagine this). Also imagine that you have more than enough money and a good opportunity to buy k-mount SMC Pentax EXTREME telephoto prime lenses. What SMC Pentax k-mount EXTREME telephoto lens would you like to get (and use!) most (1st choice)? What lens would you pick as your 2nd choice, if your first choice was not available? What lens would you pick as your 3rd choice (if your 1st and 2nd choice were not available)? Please choose among the following lenses: A*300/f2.8 EDIF 1 FA*300/f2.8 EDIF K300/f4 M*300/f4 A*300/f4 F*300/f4.5 EDIF FA*300/f4.5 EDIF A*400/f2.8 2 K400/f5.6 M400/f5.6 A400/f5.6 FA*400/f5.6 EDIF K500/f4.53 F*600/f4 EDIF FA*600/f4 EDIF A*600/f5.6 EDIF K1000/f8 K1000/f11 Reflex A*1200/f8 EDIF K2000/f13.5 Reflex M2000/f13.5 Reflex Rules: 1.) Pick your 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice (please choose different lenses, because only per lens only one choice will be counted). You may choose less than 3 but not more than 3 choices. 2.) Please send your vote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exception: Send your vote to the PDML if you have commented your choices, and you want the members of the PDML to know your comments. 3.) I will count all votes that are sent before Thursday, October 10th, 15:00 hours German time. Arnold
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Doug, I know you have had a lot of problems with the list and I greatly appreciate your contribution in maintaining this list. But please leave me unsubscribed. I'm not at home presently. I can only check my email irregularly from an internet cafe and I cannot afford to have my email account suspended because of overflow. Thank you! Knut
Re: Model Release Form
On Tuesday 08 October 2002 22:34, William Kane wrote: Hey gang, I know we've talked about this before, but I REALLY need a good model release form to use. If anyone has one that they like, would they send it along? I need some basic wording . . . I plant to use it so that I can put up the results of my students work (on the net), nad their faces are captured in the video and photos . . . Thanks, IL Bill Bill; Try this one: http://www.photomentor.co.uk/release.html or just do a google search on model release There are a bunch of examples and most are available in .pdf format. HTH Christian
Re: Model Release Form
Doug, I know you have had a lot of problems with the list and I greatly appreciate your contribution in maintaining this list. But please leave me unsubscribed. I'm not at home presently. I can only check my email irregularly from an internet cafe and I cannot afford to have my email account suspended because of overflow. Thank you! Knut At 09:40 09.10.2002 -0400, you wrote: On Tuesday 08 October 2002 22:34, William Kane wrote: Hey gang, I know we've talked about this before, but I REALLY need a good model release form to use. If anyone has one that they like, would they send it along? I need some basic wording . . . I plant to use it so that I can put up the results of my students work (on the net), nad their faces are captured in the video and photos . . . Thanks, IL Bill Bill; Try this one: http://www.photomentor.co.uk/release.html or just do a google search on model release There are a bunch of examples and most are available in .pdf format. HTH Christian
RE: Now.. about that Pentax DSLR....
Was his name Pal Jensen by any chance? BR -Original Message- From: David Chang-Sang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Seeing as how the list was down all last weekend; and I got a chance to talk to a Pentax Rep (yes they DO exist) at the local Henry's Sales/Show Extravaganza out here in Toronto
Re: DSLRs and viruses
Through shared memory cards and microdrives, at a guess. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Johan Schoone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Getting a virus into a digicam is one thing. How is it going to spread? --
RE: DSLRs and viruses
Viruses attack via the operating system. These cameras aren't running under Windows, or any other high level OS. This whole thing makes as much sense as giving a microwave oven a virus. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] What about when you take the memory card out and download to a computer? Dave
Re: Model Release Form
William Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know we've talked about this before, but I REALLY need a good model release form to use. If anyone has one that they like, would they send it along? I need some basic wording . . . I plant to use it so that I can put up the results of my students work (on the net), nad their faces are captured in the video and photos . . . I got this one from another PDML member (I forget who - perhaps Bill Cornett?) a few years ago. I formatted it to fit two on a single letter-size sheet of paper; easy to cut in half and get something that fits in a camera bag. On my web site (for a limited time only!) at http://www.robertstech.com/files/releasex.pdf -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
Re: DSLRs and viruses
Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Through shared memory cards and microdrives, at a guess. Getting a virus into a digicam is one thing. How is it going to spread? Actually, I'd be more interested in hearing how you might get a virus *into* a digicam. I can't imagine ever uploading any files into the camera from anywhere. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
Re: My Fair Success
Congrats Dave,I been getting $1 rimless 8x10 - 4 clipsframes from loonie stores around Richmond andBurnaby, BC. They are quite good.James
Re: Help get me out of digest, and thrill as I detail ontopic new
It only took me a short while to get use to the shutter buttons of the Super Program i bought from the list.Its a great little camera and i use it mostly with Black and White,but might shove some RSX II 100 this weekend. Dave Brooks On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Anthony Farr wrote: I sent this message yesterday during the server troubles, and it hasn't appeared yet, hence this resending. Unfortuantly, a few people tried to respond, all of which got in too late due to the problems with the list. The long story, short. Girlfriend's brother received a KM from someone, but gave it back. He tells his mom, ask Gary what to buy, he knows best. His mom tells me, I have complete faith, whatever you want, oh, don't spend over $150. So, I wanted a KX for myself, that's in teh running. People talk up the ME Super all the time, but it didn't seem to fare too well on paper. The Program series seems to look good, except those shutter speed buttons. The ZX-M fares well, except everyone hates its view finder, the MXes are all too expensive. I received some other responses, all of which I've been too lazy to respond to.. perhaps I'll cut'n'paste them into messages to teh PDML, since even though its too late, its nice to see discussion that doesn't revolve around a DSLR. Now, on with the response! Had you considered the P3/30 series (no suffix version, n version and t No, I didn't. Anything that's not a ZX is mostly beyond me, except those that are discussed reguarly here. version). It's got the classic interface of the KM/KX and it has DOF preview. It won't take a winder or motor but in this usage that may not Since I'm too lazy to check now, did it have MLU, which was the other thing I wanted to have on the camera to encourage good behaviour? Winder/motors didn't strike me as being very important, and I'm not sure how much he'll put into this, versus it being a novelty for a few months, the put away. regard. It has a real pentaprism so its finder is acceptable. Most That was the biggest reason against the ZX-M. up to '97 or '98, I believe). Also, because it wasn't a high-end model most owners have been moderate users of their gear, unlike pros and tyros whose gear, no matter how top-class, has had a hard life. And this model usually sells cheap :-) Tyro? I wish I had thought about this, but unfortuantly, I didn't. I had to pick from my limited knowledge base, which is the newer ZX bodies and the most commonly discussed here. I ended up choosing the SuperProgram over the KX. It was in nicer shape, and was cheaper. I also remember someone stating that the KX meter seems to break a little more often than comparable cameras. Additionally, the KX used an older sensor in its meter to the Super Program, and lacked any sort of automation. The SuperProgram had Tv and Av, and I think those are fine tools for learning and using, Also, the SuperProgram had TTL flash, the KX had none of that good stuff. Again, my only hesitation was the buttons. However, I figured if the 645 has been around as many years as it has with the same button layout, then it must not be TOO bad. I hope I made the correct choice, as it should be here today, and will be given to him on Sunday... -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #5
I am not receiving the digests, only the headings. Am I doing something wrong or is there a glitch in the system?
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Re: DSLRs and viruses
As Bruce replied to my comment it would not affect any 'operating system' of the camera(Hey if you dont know ask,right Bruce?)but to address your comment Mark,i sometimes use my 128 meg cards to transfer files between computers.I sometimes forget to delete and format.That may have some sort of effect.??? Dave Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Through shared memory cards and microdrives, at a guess. Getting a virus into a digicam is one thing. How is it going to spread? Actually, I'd be more interested in hearing how you might get a virus *into* a digicam. I can't imagine ever uploading any files into the camera from anywhere. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
Re: DSLRs and viruses
interesting note: many PS and DSLR's can have their firm ware flashed from a computer. now this is where a virus can get in and do alot of damage. --- Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, noticed that after a few emails I didn't see coming up on the board :) Reply to all is fine with me :) Hey, I've heard that DSLRs (and maybe PS) are susceptible to viruses One person talked about a Canon that was prone. If such is true, (and who knows!) that would really mess up the digital race. Maybe Pentax knows this and is waiting Brad Dobo __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Hello
Hi Katrin, Welcome to the list! Things are a bit hectic here at the moment as the computer that holds the list was (presumably) broken until very recently, and even now things are not quite steady. There is some 'tweaking' still going on, hence your first post not making it. You will find the MX a joy to use, it is so simple and beautiful. I have 2 of them - one retired, one still seeing plenty of active service. Good to see another woman on the list :-) Danke, Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Help get me out of digest, and thrill as I detail ontopic new
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It only took me a short while to get use to the shutter buttons of the Super Program i bought from the list.Its a great little camera and i use it mostly with Black and White,but might shove some RSX II 100 this weekend. Well, the person for whom its been bought tends to be blunt and honest, and known to not lie.. so, I'll find out what he's got to say when he gets it, I guess. I'll find out what they're like on my own, as well. As I thought about it, I actually though I might PREFER the buttons over a traditional dial, only because it seems like it would be much easier to do one handed, with your face pressed up against the few finder. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
RE: New member questions to the Brotherhood
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote: Psychotropic drugs can now control this. Hey, I resemble that remark! :-) Chris
Re: New member questions to the Brotherhood
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Peter Alling wrote: I think that you meant procrastinating. We leave prevaricating to politicians around these parts. I should have just put 'p-ing around' shouldn't I? :-) When in Yorkshire do as Yorkshire folk do (they are famously blunt-speaking for those that don't know). Chris
Re: Help get me out of digest, and thrill as I detail ontopic new
- Original Message - From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since I'm too lazy to check now, did it have MLU, which was the other thing I wanted to have on the camera to encourage good behaviour? No MLU, it was a budget model after all Tyro? An enthusiastic amateur. The Super Program is a good unit. If it hasn't been heavily used it should serve well. The advance gears seem to be the weak area of this body type (ME, ME-Super, ME-F, MV, MG, Super A/Program, Super Program/Program Plus, they all have a similar lower chassis). Some of the advance gears are plastic and have been known to strip, but that is not so much because the design is weak but more because so many of these cameras are still in regular use after over 20 years. Regards, Anthony Farr
Re: DSLRs and viruses
Its Not supposed to spread, it damges the cmos of the one its infecting, besides it should only affect camera's that have uploadable firmware or infrared communication or if you plug it into a PC thats infected The virus reprogrames the EPROM chips, about 2 years ago I had a Nokia phone that was wiped with a virus. So ya it does exist, but it will only be written by a hacker to infect the largest base of products so as to do the most damage, think pentax fits in that one? ha Feroze - Original Message - From: Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:22 PM Subject: RE: DSLRs and viruses Viruses attack via the operating system. These cameras aren't running under Windows, or any other high level OS. This whole thing makes as much sense as giving a microwave oven a virus. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] What about when you take the memory card out and download to a computer? Dave
Re: DSLRs and viruses
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Bruce replied to my comment it would not affect any 'operating system' of the camera(Hey if you dont know ask,right Bruce?)but to address your comment Mark,i sometimes use my 128 meg cards to transfer files between computers.I sometimes forget to delete and format.That may have some sort of effect.??? Nope. I doubt you'd ever upload images *into* tha camera, and even if you did you can't get a virus from animage (data) file. A couple of months ago someone devised a way to hide a virus in a JPEG file, but you can't get the virus or give it to anyone else that way. The only way I can see a virus getting into a digital camera is through a firmware upgrade. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
Re: D1s review
On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, at 07:38 PM, Cameron Hood wrote: I downloaded a jpeg from that camera, and printed it on my Epson 1270 on max rez at 11x14 with premium glossy and... Holy crap... It's pretty nice, isn't it? And Pentax hasn't even entered the fray. This is a MAJOR blunder by them. Cameron Hood I don't know. Pentax hasn't been driven to be on the cutting edge of 35mm slrs in quite awhile, but we all seem to have cameras we are pretty satisfied with (with the exception of Wheatfield, of course, but doesn't that revolve around a lack of support?). I can't see why Pentax wouldn't incorporate dSLR into their lineup when they think, both, that they can make a profit on it AND still make it a great value for their customers. Dan Scott
RE: DSLRs and viruses
How do you know it was a virus? Cell phones are designed to be programmable, because they have to be configured for a particular user and service provider. There are programs, and supporting hardware, designed to clone phones in case the old one is damaged, or just to upgrade. Also, anyone who knows the right key sequences can access many of a phone's programmable fields via the key pad. (Did this all the time when testing cell systems.) It's not hard to render a cell phone useless. So what exactly was wiped by this virus? BR -Original Message- From: Feroze Kistan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I had a Nokia phone that was wiped with a virus.
Re: Help get me out of digest, and thrill as I detail ontopic new
Thats exactly what i find.I can scroll through and see whats happening in the finder. Dave As I thought about it, I actually though I might PREFER the buttons over a traditional dial, only because it seems like it would be much easier to do one handed, with your face pressed up against the few finder. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Things more irritating than the missing dSLR
On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, at 07:38 PM, Cameron Hood wrote: And Pentax hasn't even entered the fray. This is a MAJOR blunder by them. Cameron Hood What's really irritating me is the slwne of new Limited lens availability. Where's the Limited answer to the variosonnar? You know Pentax's got to have some Limited zoom prototypes kicking around in the lab, not to mention primes wider than 31mm and longer than 77mm. Where's the real wide Limited? The 31mm is super, but it's but it's wider than a the basic 28mm. Give us a Limited wide (something in the 20mm-24mm range) that isn't the size of a barge. An f2 or even an f3.5 would be dandy as long as it's worth the Limited tag. Where's and where the heck is that macro Limited or the classic telephoto in the 120mm-140mm range? Look how long it's been since they've released new teleconverters, doesn't a set of Limited teleconverters seem like it has to be somewhere on the drawing boards? What are going to do with your MZ-S and your Limited lenses, stick those old fashioned teleconverters on them? I don't think so. People want to know! (this people does anyway ;-) See y'all Monday, Dan Scott (apologies if these are reposts, the original don't seem to have made it past the server)
Re: Help get me out of digest, and thrill as I detail ontopic new
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats exactly what i find.I can scroll through and see whats happening in the finder. It seems like most newer SLRs have layouts that require you to spin dials and press buttons, like the other ZX camera I had.. It didn't seem so far a stretch to just have two buttons. Good to know I (probably) thought right (about my situation). Also proves that Pentax may have been a bit ahead of the curve on this. -g. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
RE: D1s review
It's because Pentax can't make any money selling a DSLR. The amount of costthat would need to be amortized over the relatively short product life of a DSLR, and the small number of units that Pentax can sell would make the cost of the camera very high.There will be fewer manufacturers of interchangeable lens DSLRs than there are SLRs. This is exactly what happened in the past when major technologies like AE and AF (which depended on enabling technologies like electronics and advanced manufacturing techniques) became wide spread. Don't expect to see DSLRs from Pentax or Minolta. BR -Original Message-From: Dan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I can't see why Pentax wouldn't incorporate dSLR into their lineup when they think, both, that they can make a profit on it AND still make it a great value for their customers. Dan Scott
RE: DSLRs and viruses
Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote: Viruses attack via the operating system. These cameras aren't running under Windows, or any other high level OS. This whole thing makes as much sense as giving a microwave oven a virus. Wrong. Many devices, cell phones, VCRs, DVD players, and even digital cameras run firmware on top of an OS. Some common embedded OSs are: DOS, Linux and VxWorks, and there are others (e.g. Lynx, CE, NT, etc.). Thoses OS are, in theory, capable of running virus code desiged for them. Virus code has to be written to run on the particular HW/OS and infect it via some particular software, all of which explains why Mac viruses don't affect windows users. Each embedded device tends to use one of a large set of potential OSs, each has some variation of a large number of HW platforms, and almost all run proprietary software. If one were to write a virus for such a device, it would likely only affect a particular model of a particular brand of device (or at worst, an entire product family) and almost certainly wouldn't affect a different brand. Virus writers don't get their kicks from writing a virus that affect a small number of users, they want to hit millions of users, and they know they have to do it fast or the rest will become immune. Given this, digital cameras are just not an interesting target, although cell phones may be soon. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] What about when you take the memory card out and download to a computer? Possible, but your desktop is the more interesting and easier device to infect, and your virus software should handle it anyway. Personally, I wouldn't worry until you see that it has become a problem. hope that helps, patbob ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Heard it from a rep...
Now, as most of you know, I put quotes related to I heard it from a rep... in the same category as fortunes in fortune cookies, but people seem to be big fans of them anyway. So, I got this from the Nikon list (which can take a lickin' but keep on tickin' - sorry Doug): FYI, I went to a talk by a Canon Professional Sales Rep and she told us that the current top of the line Cannon film camera was the last Professional camera from Canon to use film. She also said that a new Rebel camera to be released shortly would be the last film camera in this segment of the market. She said that Canon's digital cameras are selling much faster than film cameras and that their plant is going 24X7 to meet demand.
Re: D1s review
I don't buy this, for the following reasons: - Any company would have done a business case analysis before proceeding with the MZ-D prototypes, and we know they got far along before cancelling. Obviously there was a pricepoint that worked. - We're still buying non-autofocus A* lenses fer chrissake; we're a perfect audience for a DSLR that never changes! - We're still buying non AF teleconverters! - The imaging sensor options are off the shelf. - There's an even smaller market for astronomical CCD cameras, but yet there's a number of successful manufacturers. - It would mean people like me would start buying Pentax lenses again. - A 6MP DSLR would still be competitive today, two years after it was announced. R Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote: It's because Pentax can't make any money selling a DSLR. The amount of cost that would need to be amortized over the relatively short product life of a DSLR, and the small number of units that Pentax can sell would make the cost of the camera very high. There will be fewer manufacturers of interchangeable lens DSLRs than there are SLRs. This is exactly what happened in the past when major technologies like AE and AF (which depended on enabling technologies like electronics and advanced manufacturing techniques) became wide spread. Don't expect to see DSLRs from Pentax or Minolta. BR -Original Message- *From:* Dan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I can't see why Pentax wouldn't incorporate dSLR into their lineup when they think, both, that they can make a profit on it AND still make it a great value for their customers. Dan Scott
Experience with the Pheonix 19-35 ?
I've been looking at cheap wide zooms. I've heard that the Vivitar Ser 1 19-35 is pretty good for its price, but has anyone used the Pheonix version? Thanks, Deb __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re[2]: DSLRs and viruses
Bruce, Even though we have the same first name, we don't have the same manners. I appreciate some of your insights and comments. They could be posed in a more uplifting manner and spirit. If that is beyond you, then you continue to damage your credibility. Bruce Dayton Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 12:36:40 PM, you wrote: RBMB And is this really keeping you up at night? The issue wasn't whether or it was possible, but was it a significant threat to digital cameras. It's still like worrying if cell phones give you RBMB cancer. I'm beginning to think that the easiest way to spot a Pentax user in a crowd is by their aluminum foil hat. RBMB BR -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] RBMB So you could probably write a program-virus for Digita OS.
Re: Fw: Audio Corp.
So the list now sends attachments? On Wednesday 09 October 2002 12:54 am, James Adams wrote: My Norton AV 2002 caught the following: Date: 08/10/02, Time: 14:57:10, James Adams on Q9V4Y6 The email attachment size.exe is infected with the W32.Klez.H@mm virus. The file was quarantined. but it must be on the PDML server, as I rxed it a short time before the server went down. - Original Message - From: CBWaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Audio Corp. This was a message with an attachment that came from the PDML. I nixed it quickly as any .exe file coming from a mail list is immediately suspect. I'd rather get the digest than a virus... Cory Waters -- Frits Wüthrich
Re: Extreme Telephoto poll ends on Thursday
Hi guys and gals, my choices: 1) A*400/f2.8 2) FA*300/f4.5 EDIF 3) A*600/f5.6 EDIF Ciao, Gianfranco = __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com
Texas bird festival in November
If anyone has a hankerin' to get down to Texas next month, there is the Rio Grande Valley Birding Festival to check out Nov. 6-10. There are several tours to nature preserves and selected areas in town. The valley is home at one time of year or another to over 450 bird species. There are even parrots at my college. I was forced to go to the festival two years in a row by my school newspaper and drag a camera with me. :) So check out the festival website, and if anyone's free come on down and see me! http://www.rgvbirdfest.com/ Deb in TX __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: DSLRs and viruses
on 09.10.02 21:36, Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And is this really keeping you up at night? The issue wasn't whether or it was possible, but was it a significant threat to digital cameras. It's still like worrying if cell phones give you cancer. I'm beginning to think that the easiest way to spot a Pentax user in a crowd is by their aluminum foil hat. I have writen my post just because you have exposed your lack of knowledge, writing that there are no Operating Systems in cameras. You'd better not write anything if you are not sure if something is true rather than trying to convince everybody here, that only you are right. Fortunately not every N user is like you. -- Regards Sylwek
Re: Things more irritating than the missing dSLR
It really does make me wonder about their feelings about US customers. How hard would it be to let BH special order the black lenses? Do our fellow North Americans in Canada (am I evoking warm fuzzy feelings of fraternity?) have the same problem? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Experience with the Pheonix 19-35 ?
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Debra Wilborn wrote: I've been looking at cheap wide zooms. I've heard that the Vivitar Ser 1 19-35 is pretty good for its price, but has anyone used the Pheonix version? I believe I've read that the Phoenix, Vivitar, and Cosina versions are all teh same.. I also believe I've read its worth it to spend the little bit extra for the Tamron. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
test
what do you expect from a test message? a dslr question?
Re: Hello
Hi! I'm really glad that I found that list... and don't be afraid, I'm already broken, so it can't get much worse... bye Katrin You will see the guys on the list are really cute. One hint has to be made: You don't have to buy all that stuff that is discussed and seems to get necessarily on your wish-list ... It will ruin your finances ;-)) Gruß Bernd www.bienenbernd.de ** Desertrose Chris' Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! http://www.xjapan.de * From now on I will try to live for you and for me. I will live with love...with dreams... and forever with tears.. **
Re: Hello
Hello! thanks for the nice welcome ^_^ I got my mx today, seems to be ok so far, although I have to buy some batteries and haven't taken any pics yet only the Rapid- Wind-lever or whatever it is called feels a bit strange at least compared to my me...I paid 120 Euro (about 115 US$?) for the body, a pentax 50mm lens, a 80-200 mm tele, a matching bag (don't know how to call them in english) and a cute camera bag for the camera and about two other lenses in red leather which is probably as old as the camera... there were even uv filters on the lenses but one is full of scratches... To me that seemed ok... now please don't tell me that it was too much, but to me it seemed the other auctions ended higher... it was a buy now... bye Katrin On 9 Oct 2002, at 17:14, Cotty wrote: Hi Katrin, Welcome to the list! Things are a bit hectic here at the moment as the computer that holds the list was (presumably) broken until very recently, and even now things are not quite steady. There is some 'tweaking' still going on, hence your first post not making it. You will find the MX a joy to use, it is so simple and beautiful. I have 2 of them - one retired, one still seeing plenty of active service. Good to see another woman on the list :-) Danke, Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ ** Desertrose Chris' Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! http://www.xjapan.de * From now on I will try to live for you and for me. I will live with love...with dreams... and forever with tears.. **
Re: DSLRs and viruses
That's just plain mean Bruce. Please try to grow up (at least so your body is in proportion to your head) I did some talking to some people I know on the IRC. I am in there more than here, as computers come first to me, cameras a distant second. Anyhow, here's what I have. PalmPilots are specifically targeted for viruses. Cell phones too especially the new text messaging ones. I raised this and another question to one of my warez guys that does some hacking, sometimes for me. Anyhow, he seemed thrilled at the idea of digital cameras getting viruses. Different hackers go for different mediums. He said he wouldn't be surprised if they got hit at some point. Anyhow, a view of someone somewhat *wise* in the area. Take it or leave it. - Original Message - From: Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:36 PM Subject: RE: DSLRs and viruses And is this really keeping you up at night? The issue wasn't whether or it was possible, but was it a significant threat to digital cameras. It's still like worrying if cell phones give you cancer. I'm beginning to think that the easiest way to spot a Pentax user in a crowd is by their aluminum foil hat. BR -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] So you could probably write a program-virus for Digita OS.
Re: Things more irritating than the missing dSLR
If you want a black Limited lens, you can order one from this shop in Brighton, England: http://www.camera-direct.com/other.asp The black Limiteds will cost a little more than the silver ones, but you can get one. The prices shown on the website include the 17.5% VAT, which a US purchaser would not have to pay. When I contacted them a few months ago, they told me they could even get a Japanese dealer to stamp the warranty card, so that it would be covered in the US. Michael Cross Steve Desjardins wrote: It really does make me wonder about their feelings about US customers. How hard would it be to let BH special order the black lenses? Do our fellow North Americans in Canada (am I evoking warm fuzzy feelings of fraternity?) have the same problem? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DSLRs and viruses
on 09.10.02 21:36, Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm beginning to think that the easiest way to spot a Pentax user in a crowd is by their aluminum foil hat. I wore my aluminum foil hat to the camera store, and damned if they didn't sell me a Nikon D100. Said it complemented my headgear perfectly. When I complained the lens release was on the wrong side, they said it was okay because it had been that way forever. I loved that logic so much I bought a Nikon lens, too, and made a hefty donation to the local Nikon homeless shelter. Later this evening I'm going to find the film door on this danged camera if it's the last thing I do. But first I gotta go to the store and get more foil, 'cause my hat wilted in the Arizona heat. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
Re: Photokina and Pentax - the future?
Consider the following: 1 - It is believed that current top of the line 6 Megapixel SLR's (Canon D60 and Fuji S2 Pro) can match more or less the quality of 24x36mm film SLR's. I saw the pictures made with my friend's S2 Pro (and Sigma 15-30 zoom) and I have to admit it's true. nothing worse than you could obtain with your favorite film SLR and a first class lens. Maybe the Nikon D100 is a bit worse that Canon and Fuji, but not so far away. Such cameras are more or less half-format compared to 24x36 film cameras. 2 - Olympus tries to introduce a new standard for digital SLR's, whose format is half that of the 24x36 (linear) or one fourth the surface. The new Four Thirds (in case it will ever see light) should be 22.5mm (diagonal). 3 - Sinar (a well known manufacturer of large format view cameras) introduced at Photokina a 39x50mm 22 Megapixel, suitable for their new Sinar m camera and Sinar p3 tiltshift bellows system. All of this stuff is a scaled down field camera system. 4 -The new Hasselblad H1 is no longer 6x6, it's 6x4.5. From such kind of info, I'm thinking that the digital revolution could bring us a general downsizing in shooting formats. Maybe the Four Thirds standard (or any half-like format) will replace 24x36mm film, the 24x36 CMOS SLR's like Canon Eos 1Ds and Kodak DCS Pro 14n will replace medium format and the 40x50mm 22 Megapixel or (next year?) a possible new 55x70mm 40 Megapixel back will be the large format of the future. At that point, a revamped 6x7 with AF and the modern stuff could make little sense. It is better that Pentax will work on the 645D as quick as having their bottom on fire (a terrible translation of an old saying of my area meaning you have to hurry a lot). What do you think? In the mean time, Italian guys can read my Photokina report in a new website, while the rest of the world could look at the pictures and read the English press releases. The link is www.fotone.it Bye, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com Well I remember a few years ago, someone here posed the question as to why Pentax had not introduced an AF 67 camera. I believe the general consensus was something along the lines that the motor required to focus such large lenses would be much too big for the camera body. But with USM the motor is in the lenses and are much smaller. Not to mention that each motor would be ideallized for the lens that it was in. The question is whether there is a place for 6X7 at all except for film. If the 6X7 format makes sense in a digital future (I'm not sure. When does the law of diminishing returns (quality, price) start to set in for digital? 6 x 4,5?), we probably will see an AF 6X7 system. If not, the Pentax 67 will suffer a slow death. Pål
Re: YAY DOUG!
I'll second that, thanks a lot Doug! On Wednesday 09 October 2002 1:14 am, Cameron Hood wrote: I think we all owe our Doug Brewer a brewski for all his hard work. Thanks Doug for a brilliant job all these years. Now the whining can reconvene in earnest. Cameron Hood -- Frits Wüthrich
Re: October PUG Comments
Eyes of the Storm - Cotty I like the use of what seems to be a flash giving the eyes life. Thanks, Ed! Cot Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Photokina report (Italian) and press releases (English)
For those who want to see something more about Photokina 2002: www.fotone.it Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com
Re: Things more irritating than the missing dSLR
Unlike the rest of the world, we here in Canada, I think, don't hate you for being American :) Yes, we have the same problem, and it's quite annoying. I got my first taste of this when buying my own 'real' first camera, the MZ-5n. I thought nothing of it for a while, until it seemed like black went with pro (sorry, vanity again) or that black is just plain cool on a camera. Anyhow, the box it came in said 'Silver' so of course I wondered why they had that on there unless it came in other colours (guessing black). Why they withhold such products from a large market like the US and lesser Canada is beyond me. Perhaps Bruce R. can give us a lecture on world economics and belittle us for our lack of knowledge in the area? Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:28 PM Subject: Re: Things more irritating than the missing dSLR It really does make me wonder about their feelings about US customers. How hard would it be to let BH special order the black lenses? Do our fellow North Americans in Canada (am I evoking warm fuzzy feelings of fraternity?) have the same problem? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Some pictures
For those who can no longer withstand the talks about what did and what didn't show-up at Photokina 2002, which I'm contributing too, does anybody like any picture in my personal photography website? http://www.dariobonazza.com Bye, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com
Re: Hello
Hi, Katrin, First, let me add my welcome to the list, along with the others. Second, $115US (or thereabouts) for an MX, with 50mm Pentax lens, 80-200 zoom and camera bags is an ~excellent~ price! It may be an even better deal than that, depending on the lenses. I'm assuming the 50mm lens is likely an M f2.0. If it's better than that (like a 1.7 or a 1.4, then you scored. I'm also assuming that the zoom is a piece of crap generic thing. If it's a brand-name one (maybe a Pentax?), then you scored big! I too have an MX, and I love it - it very quickly became my number one body (then again, I was using Spotmatics up to that point). You'll find that there are many on this list who are up on the latest equipment out there, but you'll also find many who still own, love and use their older equipment. You should be able to learn lots about your MX, your ME and photography in general here. Don't be afraid to ask questions. We're mostly a pretty friendly bunch. :-) regards, frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! thanks for the nice welcome ^_^ I got my mx today, seems to be ok so far, although I have to buy some batteries and haven't taken any pics yet only the Rapid- Wind-lever or whatever it is called feels a bit strange at least compared to my me...I paid 120 Euro (about 115 US$?) for the body, a pentax 50mm lens, a 80-200 mm tele, a matching bag (don't know how to call them in english) and a cute camera bag for the camera and about two other lenses in red leather which is probably as old as the camera... there were even uv filters on the lenses but one is full of scratches... To me that seemed ok... now please don't tell me that it was too much, but to me it seemed the other auctions ended higher... it was a buy now... bye Katrin On 9 Oct 2002, at 17:14, Cotty wrote: Hi Katrin, Welcome to the list! Things are a bit hectic here at the moment as the computer that holds the list was (presumably) broken until very recently, and even now things are not quite steady. There is some 'tweaking' still going on, hence your first post not making it. You will find the MX a joy to use, it is so simple and beautiful. I have 2 of them - one retired, one still seeing plenty of active service. Good to see another woman on the list :-) Danke, Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ ** Desertrose Chris' Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! http://www.xjapan.de * From now on I will try to live for you and for me. I will live with love...with dreams... and forever with tears.. ** -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #8
Some viruses simply look for open shares to connect to. If the computer can write to the camera then it could be vulnerable. Will it destroy the camera? Probably not. It wouldn't (hopefully) be able to get into the firmware, but it could fill your memory card with gibberish. The easier it is for a camera to interface with a computer, the more likely it is a virus can infect or affect it in some way. When they make cameras that can email the picture straight from the camera, then it will be even more vulnerable. Jeff At 04:58 PM 10/9/2002 -0400, you wrote: From: Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:22 AM Subject: RE: DSLRs and viruses Viruses attack via the operating system. These cameras aren't running under Windows, or any other high level OS. This whole thing makes as much sense as giving a microwave oven a virus. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] What about when you take the memory card out and download to a computer? Dave
Re: Some pictures
I love London #19! Dario Bonazza 2 wrote: For those who can no longer withstand the talks about what did and what didn't show-up at Photokina 2002, which I'm contributing too, does anybody like any picture in my personal photography website? http://www.dariobonazza.com Bye, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com
Re: Some pictures
on 09.10.02 23:12, Dario Bonazza 2 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those who can no longer withstand the talks about what did and what didn't show-up at Photokina 2002, which I'm contributing too, does anybody like any picture in my personal photography website? http://www.dariobonazza.com I like shots from London - people with posters in background - very intriguing combination. -- Regards Sylwek
RE: DSLRs and viruses
I'm beginning to think that the easiest way to spot a Pentax user in a crowd is by their aluminum foil hat. Damn! Rumbled again! Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
New (to Katrin) MX (was: Re: Hello)
I paid 120 Euro (about 115 US$?) for the body, a pentax 50mm lens, a 80-200 mm tele, a matching bag (don't know how to call them in english) and a cute camera bag for the camera and about two other lenses in red leather which is probably as old as the camera... I'd say that qualifies as a bargain! What brand is the 80-200mm lens? Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Things more irritating than the missing dSLR
If you want a black Limited lens, you can order one from this shop in Brighton, England: http://www.camera-direct.com/other.asp Never heard of it! The black Limiteds will cost a little more than the silver ones, but you can get one. The prices shown on the website include the 17.5% VAT, which a US purchaser would not have to pay. When I contacted them a few months ago, they told me they could even get a Japanese dealer to stamp the warranty card, so that it would be covered in the US. Bloody cheek! ;-) Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
RE: New (to Katrin) MX (was: Re: Hello)
And what a bargain it was! Congratulations, Katrin and welcome :) Lukasz -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:46 PM To: Pentax List Subject: New (to Katrin) MX (was: Re: Hello) I paid 120 Euro (about 115 US$?) for the body, a pentax 50mm lens, a 80-200 mm tele, a matching bag (don't know how to call them in english) and a cute camera bag for the camera and about two other lenses in red leather which is probably as old as the camera... I'd say that qualifies as a bargain! What brand is the 80-200mm lens? Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: DSLRs and viruses
The actual microprocessor was render inoperable and it was locked out with a 128bit code which was unbreakable by our software (some of which can actually decode a winzip file, and if you know computers you know thats pretty hard to do) There was no physical damage to the chip it was just unable to function as a phone any longer. Similar to the CIH virus which totaled 4 of my motherboards, if the base code is jumbled then you can't re-programme the bios part of the chip. It might work the same way with cameras, if the main processor isn't aware that there is an incoming port then it wont accept new data. Yes you can render a phone unuseable with a key sequence, but you can undo it, the only way to reconfigure a chip though is to use ultaviolet rays. A machine I do not have and cost versus buying a new phone dictated that Its a pretty mean feat I think, considering that there are 640 million film cameras in use on earth I not really worried So what exactly was wiped by this virus? Feroze BR -Original Message- From: Feroze Kistan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I had a Nokia phone that was wiped with a virus.
Re: Some pictures
There is a lot here to like. My personal picks are the fire twirlers at the Medieval Fest, the brass knocker in Essex, and the whole Cologne gallery, especially the guy with the twin-lens reflex. My favorite from the bikes page is the red, white and blue Superside in a turn. You caught the passenger just right. I also dig the athletic person in front of the windmills at Essex. This could have been a typical touristy shot of a buddy with the windmill, but as it is, it's truly unique. The kite gallery is really inspiring for me, especially frames 2, 5, 7, 10, and 11. We have two kite festivals on South Padre Island during the year, and I think one is coming up. Nice work, man. Deb --- Michael Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love London #19! Dario Bonazza 2 wrote: For those who can no longer withstand the talks about what did and what didn't show-up at Photokina 2002, which I'm contributing too, does anybody like any picture in my personal photography website? http://www.dariobonazza.com Bye, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: DSLRs and viruses
Hum... you could write a virus in the form of dots on a bill board, and when someone makes a photo of that with his DSLR, the virus is in the camera. That's the way to spread it! I need to go to bed now... On Wednesday 09 October 2002 9:45 pm, Brad Dobo wrote: I did some talking to some people I know on the IRC. I am in there more than here, as computers come first to me, cameras a distant second. Anyhow, here's what I have. PalmPilots are specifically targeted for viruses. Cell phones too especially the new text messaging ones. I raised this and another question to one of my warez guys that does some hacking, sometimes for me. Anyhow, he seemed thrilled at the idea of digital cameras getting viruses. Different hackers go for different mediums. He said he wouldn't be surprised if they got hit at some point. Anyhow, a view of someone somewhat *wise* in the area. Take it or leave it. -- Frits Wüthrich
Re: the wedding went well
Hi, Amita, Glad everything went well. Welcome to married life! Your life will carry on as before, with few if any noticeable changes (except that the toilet seat will be left up all the time now! g). Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Canon makes a medium format camera. It's just that their pro 35mm bodies are so darn big compared to our lovely compact Pentaxes, they look MF! Once again, congrats to both of you. Welcome back to the list (which you may or may not know was down since last Friday or so - only got back up yesterday evening to much rejoicing!). regards, frank Amita Guha wrote: I just wanted to let you guys know that the wedding went very well. We had perfect weather, and the photographer did a fantastic job. He used a Bronica and two Canons, I think both medium format with some AF features, and all sorts of flashes. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: YAY DOUG!
Really. I've already posted, thanking Doug for his hard work in getting things going again, but it can't hurt to do it again: THANKS, DOUG! It was so nice to get home from work today back to the usual pile of e-mails from pdml. All's right with the world again... g -frank Frits Wüthrich wrote: I'll second that, thanks a lot Doug! -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: deteriorated foam rubber - self-repair?
Subject: deteriorated foam rubber - self-repair? The foam rubber seals on my ME-body are getting gooey. - Is it useful to replace them by myself? - Do I get new seals from Pentax or are there other options? Some experience to share? (The rubber on the front side above the mirror needs a replacement, too, I think.) You can get the foam from a couple of places in the US. I think Micro Tools or some such. Unless you can send the camera to Norway, Pentax probably doesn't want to fix it, so you will either have a DYI or else a generic repair shop job. Having said this, my own experience with Pentax is such that the generic job is probably at least as good, if not better. The foam in front of the mirror is pretty important. Make sure it gets replaced. Fer sure William Robb
Re: Things more irritating than the missing dSLR
On 9 Oct 2002 at 16:28, Steve Desjardins wrote: It really does make me wonder about their feelings about US customers. How hard would it be to let BH special order the black lenses? Do our fellow North Americans in Canada (am I evoking warm fuzzy feelings of fraternity?) have the same problem? Yes it's a little strange as BnH do supply other gray products? I think that I can buy the Black lenses in Oz however I'd not try as I don't like to be price gouged :-( Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: DSLRs and viruses
That may be so, but at least we don't put 'Nikon' decals on our hats like they do. I'm beginning to think that the easiest way to spot a Pentax user in a crowd is by their aluminum foil hat. Damn! Rumbled again! Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: DSLRs and viruses
On 9 Oct 2002 at 11:33, Mark Roberts wrote: Actually, I'd be more interested in hearing how you might get a virus *into* a digicam. I can't imagine ever uploading any files into the camera from anywhere. Not that I'm particularly perturbed by the prospect of uploading a virus laden firmware upgrade from a certified manufacturers site I thought that I would add that since my digicam mounts its self on my NT5 system as an external drive via USB I regularly use it to port around files. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: Hello
On 9 Oct 2002 at 17:14, Cotty wrote: Good to see another woman on the list :-) Danke, Cotty Hi Katrin, I'll help Cotty out here just in case you read his message as I did: Steve (Cotty) is a 6'+ boy photographer :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: D1s review
On 9 Oct 2002 at 13:52, Mark Roberts wrote: Ryan K. Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - A 6MP DSLR would still be competitive today, two years after it was announced. But not at the price announced. As far as I can tell, the price of the Philips/DALSA CCD hasn't come down so they need a complete redesign to use a less expensive sensor. I'm sure that's what's going on. Was a price ever announced by Pentax? As far as I can recall the only price that was mentioned was that published by the french mag (for got the name) based solely on the cost of a one off purchase of the Philips 6MP sensor + a fudge factor for the components surrounding it. Hardly concrete. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: DSLRs and viruses
We all do our best Cotty, after all, if the old farts were only posting we'd fall asleep reading the emails! :) Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: Re: DSLRs and viruses And is this really keeping you up at night? The issue wasn't whether or it was possible, but was it a significant threat to digital cameras. That's just plain mean Bruce. Please try to grow up (at least so your body is in proportion to your head) Yikes. Back up only a few hours and already a thread that promises some decent action. Please, gentlemen, do carry on! Pass the popcorn. :-) Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
OT: The Accessories
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Re: D1s review
on 10.10.02 0:47, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was a price ever announced by Pentax? As far as I can recall the only price that was mentioned was that published by the french mag (for got the name) based solely on the cost of a one off purchase of the Philips 6MP sensor + a fudge factor for the components surrounding it. Hardly concrete. Yes it was - around 7000$... http://www.dpreview.com/news/0102/01021106pentaxdigitalslr.asp -- Regards Sylwek
Re: Some pictures
Michael Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.dariobonazza.com I love London #19! London #17 is my fave. What a wonderful juxtaposition! -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
Re: OT-Leica during WWII
Hi, Steven, Thanks for the article. With all the troubles in the world today, it's nice to read that there is some Good in the world. Kind of lifts the spirits. There was a similar story recently in the Toronto Globe and Mail, about someone (can't remember who, or what nationality, but he may have been an English industrialist or diplomat or something) who spirited hundreds or thousands of Jews out of Nazi Germany, at great personal risk. One of those that he saved was Joseph Schlesinger, a well known Canadian Broadcasting Corporation television journalist, who was 14 at the time. He didn't know until very recently who had saved him, but finally did manage to meet the person. The savior, like the Leitz family, remained anonymous for many years after the war, because he didn't want publicity for his courageous acts - he felt he was merely performing his duty to mankind. Sorry to ramble on so OT, but I think that these things are important. Thanks again. regards, frank steven gilson wrote: Here is an article from my local paper discribing the Leitz' families efforts to help Jewish people escape persecution: http://www.jsonline.com/onwisconsin/arts/oct02/86006.asp It's nice to see some photo-geeks seeing the bigger picture. Steven. -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Free price comparison tool gives you the best prices and cash back! http://www.bestbuyfinder.com/download.htm -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: Hello
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got my mx today, seems to be ok so far, although I have to buy some batteries and haven't taken any pics yet only the Rapid- Wind-lever or whatever it is called feels a bit strange at least compared to my me...I paid 120 Euro (about 115 US$?) for the body, a pentax 50mm lens, a 80-200 mm tele, a matching bag Sounds as if you got a great feal even if the camera needs a routine servicing (usually a good idea with any second-hand camera purchase). Even though I do most of my shooting with the MZ-S and PZ-1p these days, I love the MX and have sworn never to be without at least one in my collection. It's a real gem; my carry around with me all the time just in case camera. It's also the one I use whenever I'm packing light. Stop me now before I keep babbling on about this camera! -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
Re: OT-Leica during WWII
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to ramble on so OT, but I think that these things are important. Thanks again. Some OT subjects are worth rambling on about. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
Re: D1s review
On 10 Oct 2002 at 1:01, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: on 10.10.02 0:47, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was a price ever announced by Pentax? As far as I can recall the only price that was mentioned was that published by the french mag (for got the name) based solely on the cost of a one off purchase of the Philips 6MP sensor + a fudge factor for the components surrounding it. Hardly concrete. Yes it was - around 7000$... http://www.dpreview.com/news/0102/01021106pentaxdigitalslr.asp From the page: Sale price Expected ~$7,000 Expected by? Announced by? Again nothing but speculation. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: DSLRs and viruses
on 10.10.02 1:35, Bruce Rubenstein at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest you brush up on your reading skills, because I never said that digital cameras don't have operating systems. I said they aren't running under Windows, or some other high level OS that is a typical target of viruses. So define it more precisely. What exactly is high level OS? I think there is no such a definition - today's equipment needs sophisticated OSes - the difference is that they are usually no breakable by normal user action - they are simply encoded in ROM chip and they are written especially for this equipment. But many of them allows some type of user intervention - like flash ROM updates or plug-ins in Digita OS - and that's the way viruses could be written and run eventually, doing some weird things with your new DSLR ;-) Oh, and not all cameras, my MX for instance, have operating systems. You obviously don't read what you wrote any more carefully than what someone else writes. Brush up your reading skills - I didn't write there are OSes in ALL cameras. -- Regards Sylwek
Re: Help get me out of digest, and thrill as I detail ontopic new
There's an Italian word tirocinio which means apprenticeship, training, so it has to do with somebody trying to learn something. Maybe Tyro is a short for tyrocinium, which sounds like the Latin versions of the Italian word tirocinio. Since often Latin words also became scientific or learned English words, it is possible that tyro is a common American English brief for an uncommon American/English word. Maybe one day you'll forget that pro stands for professional, info means information, bino was binoculars, and so on. Just my guess. Cheers, Dario - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:45 AM Subject: Re: Help get me out of digest, and thrill as I detail ontopic new Afraid I don't know the word's origins, but I'm sure it's not an acronym, and has no hidden meaning. If it's an abbreviation I don't know the full word. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tyro? An enthusiastic amateur. Is that short for something, or am I missing a very obvious connection? (snip)
Re: deteriorated foam rubber - self-repair?
I consider the gooey foam in the mirror box and the light trapping around the back door an essential replacement on all K and M series cameras, older 6X7's, and ageing LX's. I have had this done on my six Pentax cameras (K1000, KX, MX, 2 X LX, 6X7 along with a CLA and I see no reason why they won't be good for another 20 - 30 years. Harrow Technical (www.harrowtechnical.co.uk) did this work with care and precision for a reasonable fee. If you plan on keeping and using your Pentax, the cost is insignificant compared to the benefit of using the quality precision tools that the older Pentaxes are, operating to original spec. The cost of buying a current device manufactured to the same specification, using the same materials would be prohibitive. Get a full CLA and you still have a bargain. Anton ___ Freeserve AnyTime, only £13.99 per month with one month's FREE trial! For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call free on 0800 970 8890
Re: Help get me out of digest, and thrill as I detail ontopic new
On 10 Oct 2002 at 2:10, Dario Bonazza 2 wrote: There's an Italian word tirocinio which means apprenticeship, training, so it has to do with somebody trying to learn something. Maybe Tyro is a short for tyrocinium, which sounds like the Latin versions of the Italian word tirocinio. Since often Latin words also became scientific or learned English words, it is possible that tyro is a common American English brief for an uncommon American/English word. Maybe one day you'll forget that pro stands for professional, info means information, bino was binoculars, and so on. Dario, your proposition seems to correlate with this web truth: http://www.dictionary.com/wordoftheday/archive/2002/02/25.html Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
RE: DSLRs and viruses
Nobody seems to have mentioned the real problem area. That is that the CPU in the DSLR is probably not even an Intel CPU, so any virus writer would have to learn the CPU instruction set, or have a cross compiler to use another CPU, like an Intel, to get a virus into a language that the DSLR CPU would understand. I can see some Nikon user going to a huge amount of effort to produce virus code that would cripple a Canon but he'd have to find a way to spread the virus. The only way I can think of to do that is to hack the Canon website and substitute virus-ridden code for a driver update. If that sounds like a hell of a lot of effort to go through, it's because it takes a hell of a lot of effort. Len --- -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DSLRs and viruses On 9 Oct 2002 at 11:33, Mark Roberts wrote: Actually, I'd be more interested in hearing how you might get a virus *into* a digicam. I can't imagine ever uploading any files into the camera from anywhere. Not that I'm particularly perturbed by the prospect of uploading a virus laden firmware upgrade from a certified manufacturers site I thought that I would add that since my digicam mounts its self on my NT5 system as an external drive via USB I regularly use it to port around files. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/ ~distudio/publications.html
Normailty
Ahhh yes, The birds are singing... A gentle breeze caresses the trees outside my office window And the usual gratuitous slanging match is taking place about non-existent products, and the even more ironic non-existent maladies that may infest these non-existent products. Life is indeed back to normal. I don't know whether to thank Doug the list guy, or have him drawn and quartered... Shaun Canning PhD Student Department of Archaeology School of European and Historical Studies La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086. Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Normailty
Oh, go dig up a fossil g. Think of it as hearing something over a beer at a pub. Bob - Original Message - From: Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:21 AM Subject: Normailty Ahhh yes, The birds are singing... A gentle breeze caresses the trees outside my office window And the usual gratuitous slanging match is taking place about non-existent products, and the even more ironic non-existent maladies that may infest these non-existent products. Life is indeed back to normal. I don't know whether to thank Doug the list guy, or have him drawn and quartered... Shaun Canning PhD Student Department of Archaeology School of European and Historical Studies La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086. Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: D1s review; a friendly rebuke to Mr. Rubinstein
Branded by who? You? I would be worried and embarrased if it was anyone who was respected around here. And I can say whatever I want. You need to be a little less nasty and personal in your comments, Bruce. I am merely voicing my opinion which, as far as I can tell, is perfectly legal in the free world (which includes my country, Canada). You are free to voice yours, too, but everyone would appreciate if you weren't so damn nasty about it. You will get far less heat, and we will all have more enjoyable discussions. It is only my opinion; it is not a personal affront to your artistry, and I am sorry if you took it as such. We all share a common love, photography and gear, and are brought together by the fact that we use Pentax stuff, which is, was, and always will be, fabulous. Your MF gear will still be great when they introduce the 2 gig chips. Film will not die; they said this about film vs video, they said it with CD's vs vinyl, it's all good. It's all here to stay, and it ain't goin' away. The two media will happily co-exist probably forever (I hope). Besides, trolls are cute. Nothing wrong with trolls. My sister used to collect them. And one of my greatest piano teachers when I was growing up was blind. She could tell what finger you were using on a note by the sound! And I love Stevie Wonder. Not to mention the great Ray Charles. And, a few months back, someone posted a website with the works of a blind photographer, and it was fabulous! Just chill a bit Brucey; we love ya, man! Cameron Fellow Pentaxian From: Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) *Subject: RE: D1s review *Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 06:25:27 -0700 You can't say this sort of stuff here unless you want to be branded as: blind, a dupe or a troll. BR
Re: DSLRs and viruses
Holy semantic stream of technobabble, Rob! That's impressive! I'm going to email autoreply your autoreply via my fax on my cell from a payphone with my friends pager, so I can download a firmware upgrade for my cell/fax and post it via FTP on my microwave for everyone to see. I hope that's OK. Nice one! Cameron on 10/09/02 5:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:47:33 +1000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DSLRs and viruses On 9 Oct 2002 at 11:33, Mark Roberts wrote: Actually, I'd be more interested in hearing how you might get a virus *into* a digicam. I can't imagine ever uploading any files into the camera from anywhere. Not that I'm particularly perturbed by the prospect of uploading a virus laden firmware upgrade from a certified manufacturers site I thought that I would add that since my digicam mounts its self on my NT5 system as an external drive via USB I regularly use it to port around files. Cheers, Rob Studdert
RE: Help get me out of digest, and thrill as I detail ontopic new
Tyro is an Anglicization of the Latin 'Tiro', meaning an novice or recruit. Supposed to originate in English in the 17th Century. Shaun Canning PhD Student Department of Archaeology School of European and Historical Studies La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086. Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 10 October 2002 10:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Help get me out of digest, and thrill as I detail ontopic new On 10 Oct 2002 at 2:10, Dario Bonazza 2 wrote: There's an Italian word tirocinio which means apprenticeship, training, so it has to do with somebody trying to learn something. Maybe Tyro is a short for tyrocinium, which sounds like the Latin versions of the Italian word tirocinio. Since often Latin words also became scientific or learned English words, it is possible that tyro is a common American English brief for an uncommon American/English word. Maybe one day you'll forget that pro stands for professional, info means information, bino was binoculars, and so on. Dario, your proposition seems to correlate with this web truth: http://www.dictionary.com/wordoftheday/archive/2002/02/25.html Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
RE: Normailty
m...beer mpub my two favorite things in the world can be found in pubs... Shaun Canning PhD Student Department of Archaeology School of European and Historical Studies La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086. Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bob Rapp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 10 October 2002 10:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Normailty Oh, go dig up a fossil g. Think of it as hearing something over a beer at a pub. Bob - Original Message - From: Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:21 AM Subject: Normailty Ahhh yes, The birds are singing... A gentle breeze caresses the trees outside my office window And the usual gratuitous slanging match is taking place about non-existent products, and the even more ironic non-existent maladies that may infest these non-existent products. Life is indeed back to normal. I don't know whether to thank Doug the list guy, or have him drawn and quartered... Shaun Canning PhD Student Department of Archaeology School of European and Historical Studies La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086. Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
