RE: Or Best Offer: a misleading--and dishonest--phrase
I think the silliness Todd was referring to was the suggestion that a seller after advertising a price is obliged to sell at that price. A view previously claimed by myself amongst others. Say your employer asked you to move home to a new posting. You advertise your home for sale. A few weeks later your employer says that the move is no longer necessary as a similar post has arisen locally. If in the meantime an offer has been made on your home at the advertised price are you obliged to sell?. I don't think so - unless you have drawn up formal contracts you can withdraw from the transaction. I know that the value of items talked about here is less but the principle of advertising to Test the water is commonly adopted. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank Theriault Sent: 24 April 2001 03:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Or Best Offer: a misleading--and dishonest--phrase Hi, Todd, I don't think this is silly at all! Many people on this list buy and sell stuff on eBay and to and from others on this list all the time, and I think it's a good thing for folks to know their rights and responsibilities. You're quite right, that if a purchaser gets screwed over by a vendor, there's not much he/she can do about it. If a vendor changes his mind, he can certainly say, I've already sold it, or whatever, but that doesn't make the vendor right. If I, as a potential purchaser, feel that I've been screwed over, I'm not going to go to court, but I'm never going to deal with that seller again, and I'm certainly going to tell everyone I know about my experience with that seller, including communicating on lists like this one. So, I think that it's all for the better if both sellers and vendors know what's morally and legally expected of them, and discussing grey areas like this one are a valuable exercise, imho. regards, frank Todd Stanley wrote: This is just plain silly. Placing an ad in the paper, etc. doesn't force anyone to sell anything. The person selling can withdraw the item for sale at any time - and what is a buyer going to do about it? Even on eBay a seller can cancel all the bids and terminate any active item listed for whatever reason he wants, only after the auction ends does it turn into a contract where the seller has to sell the item at the final bid (assuming the reserve is met if there is one) Todd - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Fungus question
Mark Roberts wrote: Here's the method that's worked for me: Disassemble the lens (how's that for an oversimplified step 1?) Remove the element(s) etc. On a similar note - I have a 35-70 AF zoom from my SFXn which shows what I would describe a small bubbles just behind the front element. Is this what is known as separation and is it repairable or do I just scrap the lens? Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Miracles Happen!
Rodger - Would you like to come to my study and help me find the screw that fell from my M42 - PK adapter the other day. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rodger Whitlock Sent: 23 April 2001 14:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Miracles Happen! In January, while waiting for the ferry at Fulford Harbour on Saltspring Island (the scene of a number of my PUG submissions), my Z1-P brushed against an upright of the railing on a pier, brushing the cap of my 77mm Ltd lens off -- and plop! into the water far below. I've since replaced it, after offering the Pentax gods several endocrine glands. Saturday, again waiting for the ferry there (an oft-told story), I thought to walk out the pier and see if I could spot my long lost lens cap. Eureka! There it was! And the tide was out. So, at the low, low cost of muddy shoes, I have it back. Interestingly, though muddy from several months in the saltchuck, it was *not* corroded. I think any PDML member would be hard pressed to distinguish it from the its un-submerged replacement. Evidently Pentax uses a very spiffy alloy for the Limited bodies... -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Or Best Offer: a misleading--and dishonest--phrase [was: FW: Ricoh / Pentaxsystem]
Tom Rittenhouse wrote: I've always translated that to best acceptable offer. IMHO, a seller has no requirement to accept any offer, even a full price one until he says sold. Tom I think that a full price offer completes a morally if not legally binding contract. The only out the seller would have would be that he has already agreed a sale to a prior offer or the buyer fails to come up with the consideration in which case the buyer is in breach. Or Best Offer ( Or Nearest Offer- ono in UK) has no such bind. Think of a bartering situation - each offer is just that, an offer, and each party counter offers until the opposite party says Yes OK at which point a contract is made. If no one says Yes OK to an offer then either party can walk away. An advertised price is an offer to which the other party can say Yes to thus completing the contract. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: eBay item 1231804090 (Ends Apr-27-01 134134 PDT) - Pentax remote cord for ME2 w
Are you really willing to pay that much for a two way cable with a mini jack on one end and a switch on the other? At least that's what it is on my compatible (Jessops) winder. Maybe the real McCoy Pentax winder is different? If not the components should be very easily obtainable from an electrical spares shop like Tandy/Radio Shack. Just a thought. Peter -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Donald RossSent: 21 April 2001 22:31To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: eBay item 1231804090 (Ends Apr-27-01 134134 PDT) - Pentax remote cord for ME2 w Thanks Gordon It's exactly what i'm looking for. Unfortunately, the seller won't ship outside the USA Don - Original Message - From: Gordon Pender To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 12:30 PM Subject: eBay item 1231804090 (Ends Apr-27-01 134134 PDT) - Pentax remote cord for ME2 w Wasn't paying attention was someone looking for this?http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1231804090
RE: Re[2]: Nikon's New Manual-focus SLR kicks butt!
Lets not drift into MZ-S vs. FM3A. They are totally different animals. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tonghang Zhou Sent: 19 April 2001 22:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[2]: Nikon's New Manual-focus SLR kicks butt! Nikon already published the list price, no guess work needed. Check their web site for the announcements. If I remember right, it was ($899?) much cheaper than MZ-S's list price. Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another factor is the price. FM3A seems excellent, but it will cost A LOT. Just look the price of a FM2n, add all the features the new body has, and the price will be close to the F3. The five letters in front of pentaprism housing adds another 100 or 200 bucks : - ). Just my two cents. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Nikon's New Manual-focus SLR kicks butt!
Herbet Brasileiro wrote: Yeah, right. What's the difference from an LX with limited lens on? You can buy it NEW. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
Is that your larjest blunder :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of PAUL STENQUIST Sent: 12 April 2001 12:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images In that last reply to this message, I meant to write, "I think the comments were made in jest." I've gotta get control of my fingers. How in the world did I type "large" instead of "jest?" I better have another cup of coffee. Paul Peter Smith wrote: Cyril wrote: I am, however, saddened that some have taken this as an opportunity to bash the French. Here here - totally unnecesary. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Blind or hide experience
The wildlife won't be fooled. (except maybe Ostriches) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pl Jensen Sent: 12 April 2001 11:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Blind or hide experience Are there anyone with experience with the small blinds you basically just put over your head? Like Rue's Pocket Blind? Does it work? Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Hi from a Newbie!!
Hi Rebecca and welcome to the group - beware though it can sometimes get a little heated. And don't post any pictures of yourself unless you want gifts on a regular basis - ask Tanya. Just a little tip - People on this list prefer plain text messages but are too polite except me to say so. Yours are coming up as HTML. Just click Format Plain text if you are using MS outlook - if using something else then have a search through the menus to see if you can find the option. Regards Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 April 2001 12:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hi from a Newbie!! Thanks everyone for the welcome! Rob, thanks for the link. When the kids get back to school next week I will try to get some of the ones that I took up on the web. So far I have only shot with color film, I am going to check on getting a couple of rolls of BW for the next tourny. Artur, it is hard sometimes to predict what is coming next especially when they are sparring, but like you said I do know most of the ones I am shooting and I know their moves so that helps alot. Our whole family practices Taekwondo(ITA), it is something that we can all do together and have fun with. Paul, the film I was using was just a roll I had left over in the bag, it was fuji 400. And your right I was closer when my husband was doing his board breaking(this was at testing) and a little farther away when he was sparring. I have tried doing some shots without the flash a couple of weeks ago, with fuji 800 but those did not turn out to well. Although the building we were in was quite smaller then the gym. I had bought a roll of fuji 1600, I think that is what it was, but I ended up using that at my moms 70th birthday in a dark resturant, those turned out great. I am going to keep playing around with it. Our next tourny isnt until June but I can practice when we have classes a little. The room there is alot smaller then a gym but I have tried shooting there and I still need a lot of work at it. Tanya, I have seen the pics you have taken they are Beautiful!! Here's a question for ya'll, Tanya says that her Achiever only works on "manual" with some lenses and mine seems to only work on "auto focus". Why is this? Dan, I did use the same lens for all the shots. I was mainly using up a roll that I had in the camera bag, fuji 400. The lens was the one that came with the camera a 35mm-80mm with the 2X tele converter that I have. I know that I should have used a faster film but I was mainly just playing around some. Also with the tele converter I have to focus manually, I am guessing because of the lack of lighting it doesnt focus good indoors. Lasse, our uniforms are the white ones. I never thought about them influencing the metering. Although in these shots from Saturday I wasnt that close, but that is a good thought to keep in mind. I didnt use the Achiever 260 this time because the lens that I was using, along with the tele, seems to not want to focus in auto so I was focusing manually and I knew from experience that the Achiever would not flash in manual. I know a little about light compensating but not much. Actually not a whole lot at all. I can see there is a whole lot of this that I havent a clue about, like the second shutter sync. Is this where you set the tv at a slower speed? Thanks ya'll, I am going to take the kids out this weekend and try to get some outdoor shots. I think I will try that panty hose thing that Tanya was talking about and see how they turn out. Hopefully when the kids get back to school I will have time to get some of the pics that I have taken up on the web. I will post a link to em when I do. Thanks again, Rebecca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Fairy pics
Aaron Reynolds wrote:
I have too many friends who don't ask for enough up front for weddings
and the like, and then when faced with demands from the client for cheap
prints or the like ("Twelve dollars for an 8x10? I can get one done at
Wal-Mart for six!"), they find themselves not making any money, or worse
still, losing money.
I was asked (didn't offer) some years ago to shoot a wedding for a colleague
at work. I said I would do it but didn't negotiate a fee because I was
willing as an amateur to do it at cost.
I did it and got lots of praise for the results around the office. Not once
was I even offered the cost of film and processing let alone thanked. My
view was that a token thanks such as a bottle of Scotch might have been a
reasonable gesture.
Peter
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RE: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-S and FA31Ltd)
Martin Carro wrote: Hi Peter, Let's see. You can assign Memory #1 to Supra 100, so you write #1 in your Supra 100 roll. Ok so before unloading your Supra 100 you note the frame counter and write that on the film canister instead. Then you have another roll, for example Tri-X, and that goes to Memory #2, so you write #2 in your Tri-x roll. Ditto When you switch rolls, all you have to do is tell the camera the number of the memory wrote in the roll. substitute "frame" for "memory" The camera can have some way to reset the memories if you like to do so. not needed if you remember the frame instead of the film number. I think that the problem with the other option (to remember how many frames I shot) is that if you have 5 different rolls, you finish remembering the numbers and not thinking in taking photos. The frame number is on the camera display whilst the film is still loaded. You only have to remember the number between deciding to rewind and taking the film out and it's pretty difficult to be taking photos at that stage. You could even write it in your notebook before pressing the rewind button if you don't trust your memory that long. And tell me, if you change the rolls 4 times, where will you write the numbers??? I might cross out the previous frame number and write a new one? I don't even have to cross out the old one, even I can work out that the larger number might be it. I might even use my notebook? If I were a meticulous notebook user (which I am not) I would have already written it down with exposure details. And if I were putting the same roll back in 4 times which means I've put another roll in three times in-between - I think I would have a second body anyway. Now if the camera were to remember additional information, say focal length used, EV values and exposure information, for each frame and allow me to extract it in someway (needn't be a download I can read a display and write) then allocating a serial number to the film would be useful. If it's only to remember the last frame used and I have to remember something else instead - I can't see the benefit. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vivitar Series 1 28mm/f2
Thanks Tanya So the following Vivitar lenses will not mount on AF Pentax bodies later than the SF series. One is the Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm F3.5 macro with 67mm Filter thread. One is the Vivitar Series 1 28mm f2 prime labelled "Auto Wide-Angle". Anyone else got any to add? BTW someone was asking about the words "Re: Subject:" suddenly appearing in subject lines. Mine didn't have it and your reply did (I deleted it above). What mail client software are you using? And can you give me some charm tips so that I too may attract anonymous gifts of Pentax gear? How do you like the ME super - they're still my favourites. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[3]: Subject: e-bay words (very OT!)
Nis won Paul. Is xat rili Mark Twain's ritin? Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 April 2001 17:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[3]: Subject: e-bay words (very OT!) See also Mark Twain's plan for the improvement of spelling at http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/87/2094.10.html. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Subject: e-bay words (very OT!)
I recently followed an "about me" link on ebay which I found amusing - link below if you want to see the whole thing (scroll to the bottom for the funny bit) and extract below to save you the trouble. http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/foto/ extract: I charge a 10% eBay stupidity surcharge to any buyer who spells lens as "lense". I learned not to buy from people WHO USE LITTLE SHORT WORDS IN ALL CAPS and use "!" or "L@@K" as a verb, because not only are they stupid, they tend to be excitable and either lose the stuff they sold me, give negative feedback if not paid or delivered in a special pink envelope with an Elvis stamp exactly on auction day +3, or sell "AS IS WHERE IS" and then pack it off to me in a paper bag mommy kept your lunch in. If you are one of these very important people, please go away. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-S and FA31Ltd
I think Raimo was saying that having to write down the film number is the useless feature - you can just as easily write down the first unexposed frame number. Also in the quotes someone posted about the Minolta Dynax I saw nothing that suggested that the camera remembers which frame to go to as I suspect is also the case with the MZ-S. The ability to rewind and leave out the leader and then start exposing at a frame supplied by the user at load time ( without firing the shutter at every frame in-between) is a very useful feature. I re-quote from the Dynax 9 extract:- Mid Reload is a valuable convenience that automatically advances a partially exposed roll to **the frame selected by the photographer**. (my asterisks) I think everyone is reading more into this feature than the manufacturers have actually claimed. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pl Jensen Sent: 09 April 2001 22:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-S and FA31Ltd Raimo wrote: Absolutely useless feature - if you need to write down the film number, you could more easily write down the frame number and wind on to this number. So you think its easier to fit on a lens cap; set the camera in manual mode; choose the fastest possible shutterspeed; and then press the shutter release "X" number of times to reach the desired frame? To each his own I guess. Personally I would like the camera to wind by itself to the desired frame. Another thing that makes this far from useless is that without this feature, the MZ-S would double expose exposure data on reloaded film and also count reloaded rolls at least twice (depending on how many times you load it). Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[3]: Subject: e-bay words (very OT!)
Bob Walkden wrote: It's obvious that a standardised spelling can never accurately reflect pronunciation, since pronunciation changes over time and in space. This seems particularly true of English. and what followed was very educational. Thanks Bob - but this extract from an EU white paper seems to disagree: "English Chosen as new European Standard" The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for what will be known as EuroEnglish (EuroE for short). In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c". Sertainly sivil servants will reseive this news with joy. Also the hard "c" will be replaced with "k". Not only will this klear up konfusion, but keyboards kan have one less letter. There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced by "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter. In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always been a deterent to akurate speling. Also al wil agre that the horible mes of silent "e"s in the languag is disgrasful and they will go. By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" by "z" and "w" by "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou", and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters. After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultie and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil av finali kum tru! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Took the Plunge
David J Brooks wrote: I found and purchased a used SF-1 today snip It came with sf-10 manual but looks like the cameras work just about the same. snip All help appreciated David Maybe we can be mutually helpful. I have an SFXn (SF1n) with manual and a SF7 (SF10) without. If you are willing and able to scan the SF10 manual, I will reciprocate with a scan of the SFXn manual. Interested? If so contact me off list. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vivitar Series 1 28mm/f2
James Adams wrote: Hi Tanya, Sorry to hear about your Ebay transaction vs. Vivitar Series 1 lens (28-90/2.8-3.5 macro) I'm a bit wary about bidding for anything on Ebay, but maybe it's the Scot in me. There are a number of shady characters out there, unfortunately a number of people have to get stung before these are found out. Even then, they often change their ID, so what can one do. Got to take a chance if it's what you want. I don't think there is anything untoward in the deal. Its just an incompatibility problem. If the seller was aware of the problem then maybe they should have declared it but they probably didn't know as Tanya didn't. Any decent seller will probably take it back but I think Tanya will have to stand the shipping both ways as the incompatibility is with her "newer" cameras, and the lens is working as intended. Take it to your favourite photo store Tanya and try it on older (SF series and before) cameras just to make sure it isn't a lens problem. At least because of this incident and a previous thread on the Vivitar Series 1, list members are now aware of a potential incompatibility. I think that's the problem of buying remotely (ebay or otherwise) - you can't examine and test before you buy. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vivitar Series 1 28mm/f2
Thanks Darren - no I think your two cents worth is useful extra information and helps clarify the problem for me at least. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darren Tara Sutherland Sent: 06 April 2001 04:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vivitar Series 1 28mm/f2 Incidently, this is facility for the "power-zoom" contacts. It exists on all Pentax AF bodies from the PZ series to current...even if it doesn't actually have the contacts (as on the MZ-7, 30, 50 etc.). The SF series of cameras did not have this little "box" that gets in the way. This problem should not occur on any manual focus camera previous to the MZ-M, as there should not be anything to get in the way. Not all off-brand lenses have this...in fact, I would say it's a minority of models that have this longer "ridge" to protect the aperature lever. Just my two cents worth...ignore if this has already been mentioned. ThanX Darren S. -Original Message- From: Peter Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: April 5, 2001 12:04 PM Subject: RE: Vivitar Series 1 28mm/f2 There is a large black ridge around the diaphragm control lever on the back of the lens that is much bigger on my Series 1 than on other K mounts I own. It catches on a little box in the MZ mount at about 5 O'clock as you look into the mount cavity. This in turn doesn't allow the lens to go fully home. If that is what is happening with yours (and it could be different) then there isn't a solution this time. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: ME viewfinder (was Re: Zenitar 16/2.8 Fisheye)
My hand is raised too but I don't think a camera without a built in flash would sell in the popular market place. Perhaps a better solution would be to move the RTF away from the viewfinder. I recently read that the MZ has a "penta-mirror" not a pentaprism. Is that the cause of the poor viewfinder performance? Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Johnson Sent: 06 April 2001 04:36 To: pentax discuss Subject: ME viewfinder (was Re: Zenitar 16/2.8 Fisheye) Todd wrote; The ME does have a really nice viewfinder. Considering how small the ME is, I don't buy the excuse that a viewfinder like this can't be put into a AF camera because it would make the camera too big. The magnification is .98x, which I think is the highest of any Pentax 35mm SLR? IIRC the MX has .97x and the ME Super has .95x. I'm with you on this one. I think you're right about the magnification being higher than any other Pentax SLR, _and_, to my knowledge, it is the smallest full frame regular production 35mm SLR ever made. Show of hands: How many folks would ditch the RTF on a ZX-5n (or MZ-S for that matter) for a .98x magnification viewfinder? Mine's raised. Thanks, William in Utah. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vivitar Series 1 28mm/f2
Tom The ridge I refer to is on all my K mount lenses. It's the raised bit that stops the aperture control lever getting bent if you present the lens to the mount clumsily. It's just that on most K mount lenses this bit covers about 5 to 10 minutes of the circumference of the lens mount whereas on MY (others may be different) Vivitar Series 1 70-210 f3.5 the bit covers about 30 minutes. It's never been a problem on my other cameras (SFXn MES MG) but stops it being mounted on the MZ/ZX series. (and according to Tanya the PZ as well). Tanya We seem to have gone on a drift from your original problem with regards to the S1 28mm you bought on ebay and are presuming that it has the same problem as my 70-210. You seem to have gone quiet on this one? (Don't tell us you'd left the rear lens cap on) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Ivar Helbekkmo Sent: 05 April 2001 21:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vivitar Series 1 28mm/f2 "Peter Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a large black ridge around the diaphragm control lever on the back of the [Vivitar Series 1 70-210] that is much bigger on my Series 1 than on other K mounts I own. They must have built more than one version of the mount: my S1 70-210 doesn't have the ridge at all. Perhaps it's a later version, after they discovered the problem with their oversized one? It's only there to protect the diaphragm coupling, anyway... I asked my local Pentax technician, by the way, and he said he hadn't heard of this problem, but mused that it would explain some weird damage he'd seen to the mirror boxes of a couple of LX bodies. -tih -- The basic difference is this: hackers build things, crackers break them. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Sears K mount 28-70mm
I often wonder what the origins of the "obscure" lens brands were. Many come with "Store" specific brand names and you can bet that they were all made by a common manufacturer somewhere in the far east. Some may even be clones of better known brands. I wonder if anyone out there has ever tried to do a family tree. If so you can bet that there's a page somewhere on the internet with the details. I have a KA mount (the A bit doesn't work) 24mm f2.8 "Miranda" which I use lots - often wonder about it's origins. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Archer Sent: 06 April 2001 05:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sears K mount 28-70mm I recently picked up this lens at a cheap price knowing that it has a sticking diaphram and the zoom is a little stiff. Now I am wondering if it is worth fixing. It seems to be built solid as a rock. The optics are clean and clear. Although the diaphram sticks, I don't see any oil or dust. Anyone have any experience with it? The one I have says 3.5-4.5, takes a 58mm filter, auto, zoom, multicoated. It was made in Korea by who knows which company. -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vivitar Series 1 28mm/f2
Paul Stregevsky asked: The 70-210 f/3.5 that used 67mm filter was the earlier version, and was made by Kiron, starting in 1982. The 70-210 f/3.5 that used 62mm filters was the later version and was made by Tokina, starting in 1974. Which version poses the problem? Paul I can only speak for the one I own with the problem. It is a 70-210 f/3.5 with a 67mm filter ring Peter. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Subject: Re: Ebay Auction... - private (very OT!)
That's propagandised :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: 06 April 2001 23:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Ebay Auction... - private (very OT!) You're truly correct. We're just a bunch of uneducated, overweight, propagandized, violent slobs over here in "The States". We only eat fast food and forget to wash our hands after going to the lav. :-) Tom C. - Original Message - From: "petit miam" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 3:15 PM Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Ebay Auction... - private (very OT!) Well, at least Australians spell "colour" and "plough" correctly. Not any of this "color" and "plow" rubbish. And the way you say "asthma", you should spell it "azma". Sorry, I know you can't help it :) We just thought you were typing Australian, :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Subject: e-bay words (very OT!)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: why don't you pronounce "plough" pluff? To quote a song I say: You say "tomato" and we say "tomato" You say "potato" and we say "potato" Tomato Tomato Potato Potato I'm sorry I dont see the problem here (_8(|) DOH!! Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: K-Mount Lens Envy: Stop Wishing--Settle
OK none of your message in my response but here it is: Paul, from the tone of your post I don't think you have actually stopped waiting or completed anything. You still have an enormous wish list. Just the way I read it :). You are not alone, I have a bag full of compromise purchases too. The thing is you've just given me lots of pointers to gaps in my list. Damn!!! Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: ME Shutter cocked indicator
Is it the same as the ME Super? The one on the back vibrates with the motion of film being advanced. It is a film loaded indicator and doesn't move if there is no film loaded. IMHO they are both pretty useless because you can get the info by trying the film advance lever (shutter cocked or not) and trying the rewind crank - (film loaded or not). I would leave it alone. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Stanley Sent: 05 April 2001 01:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ME Shutter cocked indicator I just got my hands on a used ME, and the shutter cocked indicator on the back is always orange, no matter if the shutter is cocked or not. The one on the top is working fine. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this, or should I just leave it alone? TIA, Todd - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: EB: Cute auction
Kinda cute ? Downright dumb more like. (Excuse the (non)English). The guy opens the back with a film still loaded (Ok anyone could do it). But then apologises that the bidder may have lost some picture taking ability and asks for the bidder to send him back the processed results. As if the winning bidder isn't going to just dispose of the ruined film. I must admit though that before responding to this post and taking into account the person who raised it, I was careful to check that the auction wasn't listed on Apr 1. :) I felt quite left out on the Apr 1 gags because I didn't download my mail till late and I have them sorted by topic. Accordingly "April 1" titles beginning with "A" came top of my list and I read the reactions ( and was therefore fore-warned) before seeing any of the gags. Admit to being amused by your antics though Chris. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Brogden Sent: 03 April 2001 18:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: EB: Cute auction http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1227346896 This one's for a K-1000. The description is kinda cute, especially given the seller's name. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: eBay problems???
I've been in several times and made bids but anyone noticed this: Ever since we changed the clock to summertime the search results are 1 hour out. i.e. an item showing 5 minutes left on the search results screen has actually got 1 hour and 5 minutes to run when you go to the auction page. (maybe another UK PDML-er can confirm this?) Because they don't show in search screen when ended it now doesn't show anything with less than an hour to run. Makes last minute bidding impossible. GRRR! Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Dalal Sent: 02 April 2001 00:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: eBay problems??? Ted Beilby wrote: There were several auctions for Pentax equipment that I wanted to bid on this weekend. I have been unable to access eBay since Friday night. Anyone else having problems with the site? Ted, I've not been able to access ebay all weekend as well. Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
ER case for MZ/ZX series
Jody wrote: The Spotmatic has a few things I took for granted that my MZ-30 doesn't have. snip 3. I love the feel of the leather half-case in my hands. snip Please help. Jody. I may be able to help you get a similar case for your MZ30 (or other MZ). My MZ50 (stolen recently) had a Pentax ER case in the traditional style. It was the model designed for the P30 and I've seen them for sale on ebay recently. It fit the MZ50 very neatly. The case is intended to hang on to the camera with the strap lugs (like the ME series case) and falls off because the MZ series don't have these lugs. I solved it by drilling a hole in the bottom of the case to line up with the tripod bush and fastened it with a tripod bush screw. I finished the solution only a week before losing the camera having had it holding on with elastic bands for over a year before that. I'm pretty unlucky with equipment. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Horrible person.
Jody wrote: I like to take good photos, not crappy touristy shots. Fair enough Also I like maximum control over my settings. That is why I use an SLR. I am glad some people still agree with me that you can't beat SLR. I agree that at present SLRs from the big 4 (5?) manufacturers give better value for money in bang for buck terms. At a similar price to any MZ/ZX series SLR the digital camera would lose out in creative picture taking facilities. (unless of course your prime requirement is a digital image) As for going digital, I would probably buy a scanner instead, so I can share my wonderful SLR photos, not some crap. Now we start to disagree. Digital is not BAD per se. Digital image recording is only "another" way of recording light transmitted through a lens. An alternative to chemical based film. Try doing a good close-up with a digital, or a PS for that matter. Not so - A friend recently bought a Nikon Coolpix 990 (I think that is the number) - it has amazing macro ability. I don't like the camera, it handles like a pig and battery life is dismal, but give me the digital technology in a Pentax SLR and I for one will be grateful. Don't get caught in the trap of equating digital to poor quality. At present X quality digital photo gear is more expensive than X quality film gear but it is changing fast in favour of digital. Look at some of the top end digital cameras being released - they are very capable beasts - just very expensive and outside the sensible budget of the average amateur enthusiastic image capturer. We're all aware of the benefits of digital images - my next purchase will probably be a film scanner. I used to have a black and white darkroom in my previous house (17 yrs ago) but I'm looking forward to being able to create similar results in my "light room" in the near future. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
ebay items spotted
These on UK ebay 24mm Lens hood http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1225293195 S accessory meter http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1225273974 Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Chernobyl effect on film (fwd)
There was a recent TV documentary about the quest to send a manned flight to Mars. The astronaut once outside the Earths atmosphere is unprotected from Solar and other stellar radiation so the time exposed is a big issue. Experienced astronauts talked about "seeing" radiation flashes probably caused by particles passing across the retina (or maybe through the brain). Anyone know if they protect film against radiation on the shuttle missions? (probably gone all digital now). Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: 28 March 2001 08:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Chernobyl effect on film (fwd) Received this on private mail. One of my strongest impressions was BW documentary cinema shot from helicopter over the reactor: the picture showed multiple random bursts of light (flashing in different spots), I "felt" those hits passing through glass, body of operator and camera. I do not remember if it was shown for public. I was in military service (in Soviet Army) that time. You may post the message in PMDL. Best regards, Gleb Baida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Gleb. Hope you haven't given away any state secrets. If you want to participate in the list without receiving loads of mail, there is a "mailless" option further down the subscription page. Anyone nay further ideas on this subject? mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: arca-swiss type plate for super program
"Robertson, Alastair" wrote: does anyone know whether Kirk or somebody else makes a Swiss arca style plate for the super program. Their website says that they make one for MX/LX and another for PZ-1p For those of us without the knowledge - What's a Swiss arca style plate ??? AFAIC this thread is gibberish. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Jonesing for a photo fix (not shopping related)
Dan Scott wrote: snip The upside is that WalMart doesn't charge for prints you don't like, even if it is the whole roll. snip Really? Cant see that happening this side of the pond. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Subject: Re: Cokin filters
I regularly use a Cokin polarising filter to get some detail into the dreary grey skies we regularly have in the UK. I also occasionally use screw on No1 close up on a 50mm just to give a little extra near focus. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tanya Russell Mayer Sent: 28 March 2001 01:25 To: Pentax Discussion List Subject: Subject: Re: Cokin filters On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:20:57 -0800, Bob Blakely wrote; "Cokin filters suck canal water. Compared to even a cheap, screw in glass filter, they are sharpness reducing, contrast destroying, dispersion generating flair intensifiers." So what filters do you prefer then, Bob? And which filters do others on the list prefer? And why do you prefer them? Tanya. :-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: shops in perth
Scotland or Oz? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kelvin Sent: 28 March 2001 05:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: shops in perth hi I will be in Perth sometime late next month for a few days and was wondering where I might go to find spotmatics and M42 lenses at a good price? If anyone residing in Perth has any of the above to sell (SP F and SP IIa), please also let me know. Would appreciate your cc'ing me in your reply as I read the pentax digest and without an index as the old digest used to have, often I might miss the e-mail. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: TTL flash
Mark Cassino wrote: There has long been a rumor that F and FA lenses transmit subject distance to the camera body in the Pz and newer series (I'm not sure about the SF series.) If so, I've never seen any real point to that except in use of flash. Isnt the subject distance info useful when the multi program bodies eg SFXn MZ7 are choosing an auto program? Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Girls like Pentax? (was: Camera Recommendations)
Jens wrote Here goes: I know a good reason for choosing Pentax. Some Pentax cameras are very beautiful designed (MZ-3 with limited lens!) and they are simple to use (PS ability) if you don't know anything about photography. I have met girls whith a camera, who didn't know anything about ASA, EV, shutterspeed, aperture, DOF etc. (and guys as well for that matter). I remember one girl who had a MZ-5n. She just loved it. She was an educated person (engineer) but without any knowledge about photography. She wouldn't dream of showing up with a PS camera. But this one is a beautiful (talking about the camera), high quality SLR. Anybody can use it. I believe girls do like Pentax! I'm sure this will stir up a long thread about sexism etc. That's quite allright with me guys. Go ahead... Jens No it's OK with me Jens. My wife occasionally wants to use my camera but she isn't the slightest bit interested in knowing anything about how a camera works. It's not that she couldn't understand it - she's a very intelligent woman and holds a senior post in systems design. She just isn't interested in men's toys as she calls them. When she wants to make a photograph she wants to be able to frame the picture and press the button - so I've showed her how to set it to auto-everything and she is perfectly happy with that. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What you hate to see on ebay
But by the same token we need more money to pursue our obsession. :( Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of PAUL STENQUIST Sent: 26 March 2001 01:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What you hate to see on ebay A big price for an LX winder? Gosh, it's what I really LIKE to see on ebay. It means the prices of used Pentax equipment are going up. And some of the stuff we already own is worth more than we paid for it. Can't say that about most of my other investments. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Subject: Re: Swan Song Photo!
Todd Tanya, Yes I am confused too. As I said in an earlier post I used to own a Tamron 135 2.5 close focus (Stolen 3 yrs ago). But IIRC mine had an A setting on the aperture ring. And I thought thats what the A in PKA mount stood for. Not so in this case it seems. OK so the original (Whoosh) should still apply. Trouble is it's 2am here now (UK) and my brain is definitely starting to hurt. I may try to apply Erwins rules to your specifics - 400 asa film f2.5 max aperture if I ever get my clever head back but it wont work at present. Going to bed now. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tanya Russell Mayer Sent: 25 March 2001 23:52 To: Pentax Discussion List Subject: Subject: Re: Swan Song Photo! Peter, forgive me, here I am totally confused and this is probably only due to my own lack of knowledge and experience here. The lens is a Tamron 135/2.5 with the adaptall mount that says PKA on it. There is no "a" setting on the aperture ring. (I take it that this is what the "A" in PKA stands for? Shows how much I know). So if it is not a true PKA and it is not quite a PK, I guess I am stuck between a rock and a hardplace here. Can anybody else offer some suggestions? Well, at least I do know that I can use it in TV mode and compensate when I am not using it wide open. This was more than I could do a couple of days ago! Thanks everyone for the time you've spent with me on this Tanya. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Subject: Re: Swan Song Photo!
This is a copy of a post from a few weeks ago - I re-send it because it is relevent to what Todd was saying to Tania about using K mount lenses on an MZ50. Note this is by Erwin Vereecken not myself. I think it's quite clever though. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erwin Vereecken Sent: 16 February 2001 13:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: time @ f-stop formula Just thinking of something, If you put your M50 f1.7 on your MZ-50, for more then just one occasional shot, you could do the following: Manually select an ISO speed of 2 and 2/3 stops lower then reality (ISO16 for and ISO100film, ISO 32 for a 200film, etc..) With the camera on manual, the light meter will now show you which diaphragm to select. The middle of the meter range will be f4.0, one higher f5.6, one lower f2.8 etc, all the way from f1.4(which you don't have) to f11, including the half stops. Should work fairly quick, withouth calculations. There is a theoretical 1/6 stop overexposure, but that should'nt have a visible influence on the result. If you think your camera has a tendency to overexpose anyway, lower ISO speed by 2 and 1/3 stop, that will give a theoretical underexposure of 1/6 stop. It's not real easy, because if you would have several manual lenses, you would have to change ISO everytime you change lens, f.i. for a f2.8, lens ISO would have to be lowered 1 stop to keep f4 in the midle, and if you mount an automatic lens in between, you shouldn't forget to put ISO back to nominal. Just an idea, Erwin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Stanley Sent: 24 March 2001 18:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Swan Song Photo! Yep, you have the idea there. I remember someone had a way of setting the ISO to a certain setting (depends on film and lens) and the little dots on the light meter scale would indicate the aperture, but I forgot the details as I don't have a MZ-50. Anyway, good luck with combo! Todd At 07:31 PM 3/24/01 +1000, you wrote: "Todd, thankyou so much for this! I had no idea that I could use it in TV mode providing that it is wide open. I almost always shoot in manual and hadn't even considered trying the other modes. I am so happy that I can now use this lens! I was quite disappointed to find that the meter wouldn't work with the lens and not having a handheld meter, I had rendered it virtually useless on this camera! So basically, what you are saying is that if I want to use it say on f5.6, then I just slow down the shutter speed that the camera advises by 21/2 stops? Makes sense now! I am renewed, I can use my lens, and in actual fact, it may prove beneficial to my learning to have to work this way for some time, as I will really have to think about the relationship between the f-stops and the shutter speed. So, there we go, there is a silver lining after all!" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Yet another PAIN!!!
I received the Snow white story too - but I recognised it and deleted it without opening the attachment. It may have come from someone on the list so watch out. This is not a critiscism of anyone, the sender of the virus is probably totally unaware of it. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jmadams Sent: 23 March 2022 07:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet another PAIN!!! I have just had to wipe my hard disk, and rebuild my system, as it was attacked by some nasty virus. It was done like many of the jokes I regularly receive, it subject 'Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs - The real story'. ***Watch out Just Dooon't open the attached file, it is leathal to your Hard Disk, and can't be reversed once the Spider Web shows up on your screen (Usually around a week from infection). Neddless to say I have lost all my emails, especially the ones concerning the Ricoh **10 camera Kit, Please can you forward those emails again. James - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:07 PM Subject: Re: fisheyes (was Re: Pentax wish list) On 22 Mar 2001, at 23:53, tom wrote: I guess there's two schools of thought on this in regards to short lenses. One says there's so much DOF that any small focusing errors will be covered. The other school says there's so much DOF it's hard to see exactly where to focus. Hi Tom, I own a CZ Hologon for the AF-G camera, it is the only non-AF lens in the line-up and is scale focus only, it isn't coupled to the electronic RF although you can take a distance reading from the G body. The lens is fixed at f8 I have always just guessed the focus distance and I have never been disappointed with my focus decisions and I am quite critical of myself :-) I find the 16mm reasonable to focus and wonder how much an AF system might hunt when using an ultra-wide in less than ideal conditions? This is true when you're doing close-ups. For normal photography with a macro lens, AF makes sense. In fact it's pretty cool in the case of the FA 50/2.8. I'm willing to bet that it's the fastest AF'ing lens in the lineup. Sure, what I have noticed when using my Macro lenses at long focus distances is that even though they are relatively slow compared to their non- macro counterparts the focal plane sometimes seems more apparent than when using faster lenses. What are you using to remap? I saw a Quicktime 5 demo a few weeks ago...instead of a cylinder model, it's a cube now. You can look up and down. Check: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/fisheye_to_rectilinear.html Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....
I sympathise Tanya it must hurt - but look on the bright side - the two irreplaceable babies are safe. One day you will replace the third. How's your insurance? Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: P30n
I looked at a P30t some time ago. It's nice but the reason I rejected it is that there is no manual film speed setting and no exposure compensation so you have to use DX coded film. OK if thats your intention but at the time I was bulk loading film into my own cassettes. I think that the P30n is the same. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tanya Russell Mayer Sent: 22 March 2001 23:40 To: Pentax Discussion List Subject: P30n Hi again everyone, In view of my recent "tragedy", I have had a very generous offer to purchase a P30n at a great price. Can anyone fill me in on some specs/past experience with this model? Thanks in advance. Tanya. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 67mm filter on 49mm lens...?
I think you mis-understood something here Bob. The "All-blacks" see http://www.nzrugby.co.nz/ are the NZ national rugby football team and I dont think that Rfsindg intended anything racist in his or her post. Thats the way I read it anyway. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 March 2001 12:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 67mm filter on 49mm lens...? On 19 Mar 2001, at 23:05, petit miam wrote: Love the silver and black. Hate all-black (and all-blacks, but don't tell em I said so). It is so morbid and boring. A comment that I hope was made in jest... This list is multi racial and multi cultural, and the better for it. We are not just a bunch of 'old white boys' who's ancestors were Europeans. Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Black ME Super
Shel said: I've too many ME Supers Does not compute. Does not compute. Aargh!! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: ZX-5N 's lousy AF???
Chris Brogden wrote: Not to mention a battery drainer. If you want to see annoying, check out the AF assist on the MZ-30 and MZ-7. It's a strobe flash. I can almost hear the batteries being sucked dry. :) What evidence do you have for this Chris? In my experience as a user I find that the number of times the MZ7 actually chooses to use the strobe is minimal. When it does choose to then it obviously finds such use beneficial - therefore so do I. No issue. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Battery drain :(was: Best shot you _know_ you missed - What do you shoot)
I have an ME super which gives me problems only if I switch it off. The LEDs flicker (different pattern to the low battery flicker) and I get occasional mechanical shutter (125th) rather than the indicated speed. Problem goes away if I leave it switched on all the time (even in bag) and I've noticed no shortened battery life. I had assumed that when the LEDs go out it has switched off power completely. It also solves the problem of the fiddly release from locked position. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of W Keith Mosier Sent: 14 March 2001 21:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Battery drain :(was: Best shot you _know_ you missed - What do you shoot) Skip, You may be right, there may be no current drain on the battery. I don't know for certain. I based my assumption on my past experience with the MESuper and my battery operated analyzers and laptops which drain the battery much faster while in standby mode than when off. I should have been more clear that my statement was an assumption. Also, I misunderstood your original post, and thought you were leaving the camera on ALL the time. You (Skip/"dosk") wrote: Anyway, I'm not really talking about keeping the switch on ALL the time! (Keeping it on in the bag was a mistake, of course...) But if I were at a sporting event, say a basketball game I was shooting, I most certainly would keep the camera on constantly whilst it was hanging around my neck! (And would probably miss my best shot anyway, while changing rolls...) Been there, done that; both leaving the batteries on in the camera bag, and changing rolls or lenses while the SHOT was occurring. g I agree about leaving the camera on during an "event". I do the same. K. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax nomenclature
John If you dont want to set up a web site but just want to share your pictures on the web then these people will let you store up to 50Mb of photos for free. You could always do multiple registrations if that werent enough - but I didnt suggest that did I. http://icd.internetphotoservices.co.uk/ Regards Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 March 2001 19:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Pentax nomenclature Can anyone recommend a free or cheap Web-hosting site? I'd like to put a few pictures up for other people to see. What are the pros and cons of selecting a host? Thanks, JJ J. John Cohen, M.D., Ph.D. Department of Immunology, B-184 University of Colorado Medical School Denver, CO 80262, USA phone: +1 303 315-8898 fax: +1 303 315-5967 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: eBay payment methods / Zenitar fisheye
I've used BidPay http://www.bidpay.com/ a few times. I live in UK and most auctions are US or Canadian. The advantage is that you pay by credit card which is the easiest way of doing currency conversions. The seller gets notified direct from BidPay that a money order is on its way so they can ship the goods. It costs the buyer $5 flat for payments less that $100 or 2.25% +$5 for orders over $100. The seller pays nothing so has no reason to object to this method. I too have been watching those Zenitars - there seem to be lots of them for sale. Would be interested in your views appearing here once you've had chance to use it. Regards Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frits J. Wthrich Sent: 11 March 2001 11:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: eBay payment methods Now that I participated in my first eBay auction I gain interest in it. I have read on this list from members stating they will use nothing else then paypal. Since the participating country list is so limited, I wonder what they think of Billpoint? That one is world-wide. Are there other services like that? Advantages/disadvantages? Any input is welcome. Frits (now waiting for his Zenitar M 2.8/16mm) Wuthrich - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: glenn's peephole fisheye
Are you trying to make a pinhole Camera? If so you dont place the pinhole in front of the lens you REPLACE the lens completely - so it should be mounted in a (Black) body cap not a lens cap. I may have got hold of the wrong end of the stick here so if so ignore what follows. The small hole will give a very wide angle and large DOF so focusing is not an issue. It is unlikely that there will be sufficient light transmission for your camera's meter to register so long exposure and experimentation are the trick here. Also the precision of the pinhole will greatly affect the sharpness of the image. I made a pinhole camera many years ago with just a biscuit tin - school project. A great way for kids to learn the basics of photography. Just put a tiny hole in the lid - it needs to be small and precise so just banging a nail in is not good enough. The inside of the tin needs covering with black paper (or paint) to stop internal reflections. I used mono photographic printing paper instead of film cut to the size of the tin and mounted (in darkness) face up on the bottom of the tin. Put the lid on and close the shutter by sticking a piece of black electrical tape over the hole. Remove the tape to expose the paper replacing it again after timing the exposure. Develop the paper as normal and use the paper neg to make a contact positive print. Exposure can be found by experimentation but tests of around 1 min should give a result. Again I may have misunderstood the objective but ne're mind eh? Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Scott Sent: 04 March 2001 06:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: glenn's peephole fisheye In completely unrelated news, I finally got around to making a hole in a lens cap to mount one of those fisheye peephole thingies I got at a hardware store many months ago, and played with it on the front of an M42 50mm briefly. It does want a short extension tube behind it (and if there's a 2x converter behind _that_, the image becomes a reasonable size in the viewfinder), but I noticed that I was unable to focus (with or without the 2x). There was a definite point of _least_ blurriness, but at no point in my experiments was anything I saw through it _sharp_. Holding it up to my eye, things look sharp through it. I don't really understand why (though if anyone does understand and wants to have a crack at explaining it, I'd be grateful). I'm guessing that it doesn't project an image the same way a normal photographic lens does, but relies on the eye to focus _through_ it. But I don't understand why the camera lens can't focus through it. -- Glenn Might be that the minimum focus distance of your eye is better than that of your M42 50mm. Sounds like a cool project, though. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Spotmatic battery covers
Noticed Power winder covers for ME ME Super MG etc too. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Archer Sent: 03 March 2001 04:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Spotmatic battery covers Pentax Service tells me Spotmatic battery covers are unavailable, but I just found a listing for them here: http://www.kellycamera.com/products/filters.asp Has anyone purchased from this source before? -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Have an ebay laugh
Try this one if you are bored - Bargain **ntax http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1217647209 Even has an "optical" lens. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: WOW! Check this out!
WHY ALL EBAY SELLINGS IN CAPIFALS AND SPELING CANT? Just an observation. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Flashing Av On The MZ/ZX-30
Bruce Ferguson wrote: Leaving the lens on the A setting every time you want to use the camera manually seems a pointless waste of having an aperture ring in the first place. snip But hasn't the Pentax philosophy been to make the lenses compatible across the range. Remove the aperture ring and you make the lens only usable on a small range of pentax bodies. This is the approach that kn**N and **n*C (dyslexic) take. You wouldnt want Pentax to do that would you? Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S worth
Mafud wrote: *PS folks sure don't think Canon ps cameras equal PENTAX quality or else Canon would be the leading PS sales instead of PENTAX. Pt: "let me know when Canon builds a medium format stable." I agree Mafud - but isnt the reason that Pentax now dominate that market because they invested heavily in it. I remember a time (10-12 years ago - guesstimate only) when the key players in the PS market were Canon and Olympus and Minolta to a lesser extent. Nikon didnt figure and Pentax didnt even make a PS camera. At that time Pentax's image for serious work was higher amongst other equipment users. I think that Pentax serious gear may suffer in market image terms because of a popular image of Pentax as a PS manufacturer. Many of the younger low end Canon and Nikon users probably used Pentax P$S cameras "before" they got "serious" about photography. Just a theory. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: fungus question: Warning !
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Philippe Trottier Sent: 27 February 2001 00:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: fungus question: Warning ! That's why the LX at -6.5 EV and working (Heerrrmm) at low temp is great... I can send some photos of northern lights that would change the mind of many about the great north. Philippe OK - I think we'd all like to see them. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: SMC Takumar 85/1.8 fungus question
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:23:59 -0600 From: Ken Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SMC Takumar 85/1.8 fungus question This is from Ed Romney's site: "An equal mixture of household ammonia and medicinal hydrogen peroxide applied with a swab removes fungus from the glass of lenses. Mix just before using." Are you advocating disassembly to clean inner elements or just outer surfaces? Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S availabiity Price in Canada
This week's Amateur Photographer (UK magazine) forecasts 800 ($1152) for MZ-S body and 1200 ($1728) with 24-90 f3.5-4.5 zoom. 1 = $1.44 at 27 Feb 2001 Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: the cost of doing digital
Really Mafud!! I think you are doing a good job of being Devil's advocate here. **Equivelent amount of "photorealistic" paper, ink cartridges and permanent (light tight) storage facilities? I dont think anyone prints *all* their images and certainly don't store all their archives in printed format - so this is a red herring. Indeed I would say that for some digital image purposes printing is never a requirement. And why would I need a light tight storage facility for ink jet paper? STORAGE? *If they store their images in or on cards, hard drives or tape, will the contemporary (circa 2001C.E.) playback devices be able to retrieve or even view their images? Remember, unless the owner is wealthy and can pay for off-(home) site storage, the storage problem alone becomes problematically exponential***. ***More storage, more retrieval equipment, more disc-card-drive investments, more cataloging and archiving costs, more room in absolute terms. Valid points but I'll try to answer. I've been in the IT industry since 1971 and if I were to have stored digital images then (forget the lack of technology and storage capacity in those days) I would have great difficulty reading the images now because all the storage media from 1971 is obsolete. I can still use my negs and transparencies from 1971. First point to Mafud. However, as the technology has changed I have always been able to transfer digital data quickly and simply from one type of storage media to another. For example, my data files stored on my first PC on 360kb 5.25 in floppy disks in the early 80s were easily brought forward through the several evolutions of PC upgrades and, were they still useful, would now be archived on CDRom. I currently archive scanned images on CDRom with ZIP disks as an intermediary for editing and sorting. ( I still use film because the digital cameras which offer me the same facilities as a 35mm film SLR are ridiculously expensive ). CDRom offers the highest amount of storage per penny at present, and is widely readable and compact and durable for storage. I have no doubt that CDrom will eventually become obsolete but this will not happen overnight. Whatever becomes the replacement preferred method of digital storage will only do so because it offers better facilities (bits per penny, etc.) than CDrom and I am confident that I will at that stage be able to quickly and easily transfer my archives to that media. Validity of stored data. Yes I would have difficulty reading a Visicalc file now. Digital images however are quite simple things and the formats widely interchangeable between various imaging software. Cost - well none of my PC equipment is bought exclusively for photographic purposes (media and film scanner excepted) Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2001 14:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: the cost of doing digital In a message dated 2/27/01 7:11:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the digital version really takes off at $7000, I wonder: Assuming the difference is the electronics making this so much more expensive then the MZ-S, and realising how much electronics plummets in price over time, I wonder if it would take something like 2 years till it reaches the price level of the MZ-S? I'm curious: *If the working lifetime of the new PENTAX digital CCD is 20 years: *Is the "average" small format owner willing to amortize the $7,000 @ $350 year for 20 years? How much would the actual "savings" differential be for a person who shoots 20 rolls of film monthly? *For that same person, assuming they are *not* in business, thus *cannot* deduct the depreciation on their new digital body, what will it cost them** to produce the same amount of images as in 20 rolls of film? **Equivelent amount of "photorealistic" paper, ink cartridges and permanent (light tight) storage facilities? STORAGE? *If they store their images in or on cards, hard drives or tape, will the contemporary (circa 2001C.E.) playback devices be able to retrieve or even view their images? Remember, unless the owner is wealthy and can pay for off-(home) site storage, the storage problem alone becomes problematically exponential***. ***More storage, more retrieval equipment, more disc-card-drive investments, more cataloging and archiving costs, more room in absolute terms. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S Is It Worth It !
Mafud wrote: No more muttered: "It's a PENTAX" when asked by strangers, no more "I've been thinking of switching" vacillations, no more "brand shame" But I always was and am proud of my Pentax gear. And (shame) only once ever thought of switching in the last twenty something years (driven by availability of 3rd party lenses for the competition) and that lasted only a few minutes. I also am not afraid to say Nikon, Canon etc. they make quality gear but to my mind they have no soul. As for the MZ-s I dont think I'll ever be able to afford one so it's not for me, but I can dream. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AE vs A
If thats a Tamrom Adaptall lens then go down to your dealer and buy a KA mount to replace the K mount adapter. It should then work in the AE position on your MZ30. Take the body and lens with you to test it at the store. Check first that the adapter you already have is a K and not a KA. Good luck Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of petit miam Sent: 26 February 2001 12:23 To: Digest Pentax Subject: AE vs A Hi, I have a Tamron manual zoom lens (?80-210) with Pentax K adapter. I would like to have it working on my MZ-30. But so far, no luck. My MZ-30 requires an "A" position on the aperture ring, but the lens only has "AE". Are these equivalent? Any ideas to get it to work? Or am I just s**t (no, not a camera brand) out of luck? Jody. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Step-down metering
Bill Peifer wrote: It's often impossible to focus your lens at reduced aperture (not enough light to see the scene clearly), so you may have to set the aperture wide open in order to focus, then stop it down to meter and shoot. Someone on the list noted that you can think of stop-down metering as "built-in depth-of-field preview" -- a pretty good way to think about it. I know Bill is talking about stop down metering rather than DOF in particular but he clearly states how I feel aboout DOF buttons on cameras. I find because of the image dimming my eyesight is incapable of fully appreciating the depth of focus in the viewfinder image. Therefore the DOF button is useless to me. I know many correspondents here regard this feature as essential - but can they actually use it. When is it most useful? (macro work I assume). I personally would be interested in other's views. Regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Price vs. Worth(Screw Mount lens on K mount)
Well if you see another one at that price then pick one up for me ;) Thanks for advice Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Evan Hanson Sent: 23 February 2001 15:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Price vs. Worth(Screw Mount lens on K mount) IMHO opinion this lens is nearly priceless. ; ) Seriously the SMC version is probably my favorite lens. Feels great and super sharp every time I use it I can't believe I picked it and the SPII up for 19.95. Evan Hanson Peter Smith wrote: So what is this worth? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1215176171 Going in less than an hour. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Screw Mount lens on K mount
Chris wrote: AFAIK, all of the Pentax M42 lenses *do* have manual stop do have manual stop-down. Even the SMC-Taks and Super-Taks (as well as some Auto-Taks) have a sliding auto/manual switch to stop down the aperture. You'll need to manually stop down the aperture to meter properly and to take the shot. It's not the fastest route if you're in a hurry to take pictures, but then there's AF lenses for times like those. :) Ok that solves it - I was aware that some screw lenses had a stop down switch but the one I've just been experimenting with (a Pentacon) doesn't, just a pin that the screw body pushes. If all the Takumars do have a manual switch then no prob. OTOH, if you don't ever plan on using M42 bodies, then you may as well get K-mount lenses. They can be more expensive sometimes, but are easier to switch between bodies if you have more than one K-mount body. You could do worse than getting some nice M42 Pentax lenses and a body or two, though. :) Already have an old fully mechanical Praktica body as a starting point to try with hence the pentacon lens. I sold it to a friend when I upgraded in 1977 ish. Reading about the enthusiasm for screw mount on this group got me to phone him to see if he still had it and lo behold it's back in my hands looking as new as the day it left me. Didnt want to go looking for glassware though if they weren't also usable on my other bodies. Thanks for response. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Screw Mount lens on K mount
So what is this worth? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1215176171 Going in less than an hour. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Brogden Sent: 23 February 2001 00:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Screw Mount lens on K mount On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Peter Smith wrote: Nope - K bodies cannot mechanically stop down any m42 lenses, it becomes strictly a meter shoot *at aperture* Just like the Golden Age of Photography :^) I presume that when you say *at aperture* you mean wide open? 'cos if I could shoot at selected aperture there wouldn't be a problem. Nope, "at aperture" means that you can stop the lens down manually and shoot at that aperture. Think of it as built-in DOF preview. :) You can select and shoot at any aperture. The only thing that you cannot do is set the lens to, say, f8 and expect the camera body to stop it down for you. You have to stop the lens down yourself. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Geography Poll General Results!
on 2/20/01 6:07 PM, Len Paris at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are correct but, if I might make an addition, the spoken change from Nippon to Nihon is because it is followed by a syllable starting with a "hard g" sound. You are right for Nihongo "Sun Land Language" (or Japanese language) but Nihonjin "Sun Land Person" (or Japanese person) does not have the hard g. BTW Amerikajin American person - Furansujin French person - Furansugo French Language - Eigo English language. Peter Smith - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Geography Poll General Results!
Mark Roberts wrote Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few years ago I got a software contract located in an area where there were VIP tours. Got to go to lunch with a Supreme Court justice wife from Greece. Now, I'm not too keen on the spelling, but in their language there would be a breathing sound before the word to give the "h" sound. "`Ellas" would fit the bill. Well the word for "pertaining to Greek culture" is "Hellenic", so I suspect the "H" belongs in there. Yes Mark but the word Ellas is the Greek people's own name for Greece in the Greek language(admittedly with different character set) and Hellenic is English for things Greek - so the H is an add on in English as Colin states to cover the "breathing sound". Hellas (Grk., "Land of the Hellenes"), name that came to be applied to ancient Greece, including the Greek islands and colonies. The name became common after the great migrations of Hellenic peoples, beginning about 1100 BC. Modern Greece, in accordance with classical tradition, is also known as Hellas or Ellas. "Hellas," Microsoft(R) Encarta(R) 96 Encyclopedia. (c) 1993-1995 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. (c) Funk Wagnalls Corporation. All rights reserved. Peter Smith - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Autofocus lenses
I see various descriptions of Pentax Auto focus lenses in dealers adverts. Sometimes lenses are describes as Pentax AF sometimes Pentax FA and sometimes Pentax F. Do all these tags mean the same thing or does the tag denote something else. Peter Smith - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: There's OK, Then There's OT, and Then There's OL (was: PDML rewriting hi...
But havent you (between you) now created another of these OL,OT or WYW threads? Thats how it works - people reply to something OT about something OT ad infinitum. Great fun isn't it? Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 February 2001 19:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: There's OK, Then There's OT, and Then There's OL (was: PDML rewriting hi... In a message dated 2/17/2001 10:41:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [I wrote] 3. OL messages. These are "contributions" to the PDML that have essentially nothing to do with Pentax in specifics nor with photography in general, and therefore, in my humble opinion, should be considered Off List messages. Absolutely. With the total volume of traffic these days, many or most of the Off List "contributions" are about as welcome as the contributions the local pigeons make to the decor of my balcony. Unfortunately, Robert, I'm probably "preaching to the choir", since the list members who are carrying on all the "Way Off Topic" threads are elsewhere, embroiled in those threads, and would not be interested in this anyway. While I will admit that there could occasionally be some appropriate photographic reference to these topics in the PDML, I'm going to go out on a limb and naively suggest that any thread (with spinoffs) that discusses Mel Gibson, the Enigma Machine, D-Day, Braveheart, Oliver Stone, John Kennedy, UFO's, God, "the government", Scottish history, whether "all men are created equal" or whether "all men are equal", Americans as a group, propaganda, W.W. II, DuPont Chemicals, General Motors, the Krupp Works, "the international corporate mantra", "Remember the Alamo!", the Nazis, Ford Motor Company, Henry Ford, Hitler, the US Revolution, British history, French and German mercenaries, Ben Franklin, the "Founding Fathers", the Haitian Revolution, American automobile production, the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Canadian government, Jewish refugees, "transcendental Truth in history", Willys Jeeps, the "underbelly of the 'corporate ethos'", the "national pastime of the European nobility", W.W.I, the French Foreign Legion, publications "for the publics good", artillery shell proximity fuses, Bayer Chemicals, "the so-called Zionist conspiracy", the invasion of Czechoslovakia, C-SPAN, Pacifica, the BBC, and PBS radio just might be a wee bit inappropriate for the PDML. I am not trying to say that these topics are not worth discussing. Rather, I am suggesting that this should not be the forum for discussing them. But, what do I know... Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: SMC - Zeiss x Asahi ?!?
People just gotta stop thinking that Hollywood is real. Not the point - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: SMC - Zeiss x Asahi ?!?
Mafud I agree with emotion of everything you say even if my knowledge of the facts is incomplete. And perhaps this is not the forum. It didn't happen exactly that way, but would you have preferred that America have stayed out of the war? No I greatly appreciate the real American contribution to WWII - did I say otherwise? just objecting (like you) to the way the stories are re-told. I was reacting to a NASA claim to Ziess's multi coating technology. My comments were actually intended to be slightly more tongue in cheek than you actually took them. I also wasnt trying to find or quote an "ethical outrage against humanity". So if anyone else wants to jump down my throat - sorry in advance - I suppose I did start it. Regards Peter ---Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 February 2001 11:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SMC - Zeiss x Asahi ?!? In a message dated 2/16/01 4:39:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But then a recent hollywood film shows that the Americans with the help of Mel Gibson captured the German Enigma encryption machine and cracked the code thus saving the world. It didn't happen exactly that way, but would you have preferred that America have stayed out of the war? The machine was in fact captured and cracked by the Brits before the Americans even entered WWII. Well known fact deeply appreciated at least by we Americans, if no one else. Only American forces took part in the D Day landings didnt they? (Saving Private Ryan). But...but England has had ~years~ to write her own version of the war and her heroism. But here, you fault the United States for blowing her own horn? "Private Ryan" was fiction, but closely follows the repeated story of many American families who lost two-three-four siblings in the war. The rest of the world is getting used to Americans rewriting history. Anyone seen "Braveheart" (Mel again)- an interesting adventure movie but little foundation in historical truth. But..., but his character did exist and his story, his heroism, his faith is well known. So Mel overdoes it? It's a movie man. Want to know a ~real~ lie, a moral and ethical outrage against humanity and God? When Europeans and Americans in the new world tell the story of how the world was built exclusively by whites, with no consideration at all for the 400+ years of free and underpaid labors of more than 40 million Africans in the Americas, most of them, until their forced conversion, Muslims? We're still waiting for America and Americans to tell the true story about that series of prevarications Then there is the European exploitation of the Native American, the exploitation of peoples in the Near and Far east, especially in India, the way England and the West, including America, forced Opium on the Chinese... Those lies too must be straightened out so... get in line. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: SMC - Zeiss x Asahi ?!?
Mafud I agree with emotion of everything you say even if my knowledge of the facts is incomplete. And perhaps this is not the forum. It didn't happen exactly that way, but would you have preferred that America have stayed out of the war? No I greatly appreciate the real American contribution to WWII - did I say otherwise? just objecting (like you) to the way the stories are re-told. I was reacting to a NASA claim to Ziess's multi coating technology. My comments were actually intended to be slightly more tongue in cheek than you actually took them. I also wasnt trying to find or quote an "ethical outrage against humanity". So if anyone else wants to jump down my throat - sorry in advance - I suppose I did start it. Regards Peter ---Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 February 2001 11:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SMC - Zeiss x Asahi ?!? In a message dated 2/16/01 4:39:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But then a recent hollywood film shows that the Americans with the help of Mel Gibson captured the German Enigma encryption machine and cracked the code thus saving the world. It didn't happen exactly that way, but would you have preferred that America have stayed out of the war? The machine was in fact captured and cracked by the Brits before the Americans even entered WWII. Well known fact deeply appreciated at least by we Americans, if no one else. Only American forces took part in the D Day landings didnt they? (Saving Private Ryan). But...but England has had ~years~ to write her own version of the war and her heroism. But here, you fault the United States for blowing her own horn? "Private Ryan" was fiction, but closely follows the repeated story of many American families who lost two-three-four siblings in the war. The rest of the world is getting used to Americans rewriting history. Anyone seen "Braveheart" (Mel again)- an interesting adventure movie but little foundation in historical truth. But..., but his character did exist and his story, his heroism, his faith is well known. So Mel overdoes it? It's a movie man. Want to know a ~real~ lie, a moral and ethical outrage against humanity and God? When Europeans and Americans in the new world tell the story of how the world was built exclusively by whites, with no consideration at all for the 400+ years of free and underpaid labors of more than 40 million Africans in the Americas, most of them, until their forced conversion, Muslims? We're still waiting for America and Americans to tell the true story about that series of prevarications Then there is the European exploitation of the Native American, the exploitation of peoples in the Near and Far east, especially in India, the way England and the West, including America, forced Opium on the Chinese... Those lies too must be straightened out so... get in line. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: time @ f-stop formula
Erwin Vereecken wrote "re using K mount lenses on MZ50" If you put your M50 f1.7 on your MZ-50, for more then just one occasional shot, you could do the following: Manually select an ISO speed of 2 and 2/3 stops lower then reality (ISO16 for and ISO100film, ISO 32 for a 200film, etc..) With the camera on manual, the light meter will now show you which diaphragm to select. The middle of the meter range will be f4.0, one higher f5.6, one lower f2.8 etc, all the way from f1.4(which you don't have) to f11, including the half stops. Should work fairly quick, without calculations. There is a theoretical 1/6 stop overexposure, but that should'nt have a visible influence on the result. If you think your camera has a tendency to overexpose anyway, lower ISO speed by 2 and 1/3 stop, that will give a theoretical underexposure of 1/6 stop. It's not real easy, because if you would have several manual lenses, you would have to change ISO everytime you change lens, f.i. for a f2.8, lens ISO would have to be lowered 1 stop to keep f4 in the midle, and if you mount an automatic lens in between, you shouldn't forget to put ISO back to normal. That's brilliant Erwin. You could make it easier by keeping a note of the exp compensation needed for each of your lenses. I didn't use my K mount lenses on my MZ50 but would have had I thought it through like that. Problem's gone away now though - "Stolen" I replaced with MZ7 which doesn't have the problem. Great tip for anyone still owning MZ50 though. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Losing My Heads
Whenever I go take pictures of the Hong Kong city lights, I find myself sharing the Peak viewing gallery with lots of tourists. The take a picture of a 600m wide harbour with the flash on their PS and then look at *me* like I'm an idiot for not having a flash. Sheesh! dave They must be the people I saw on TV at the opening ceremony of the Olympics - and every other night time stadium event. Peter (_8(|) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 24 mm f/3.5 - Opinions?
No comments but what is the URL of your lens op web site Stan? Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stan Halpin Sent: 15 February 2001 03:06 To: PDML Subject: 24 mm f/3.5 - Opinions? I recently had a visitor to my Lens Opinion web site seeking information on the 24 mm f/3.5. I have no opinions harvested from discussions here - either I missed it, or nobody has said anything here about this lens in the last 3 years. Any comments? Stan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Acoustic Photography, Was Re: News from PMA - MZ-S and other stuff
I own a Pentax Stereo adapter so can i join the acoustic photography group? Peter Manchester, England - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: old exposure meters
Dan Scott wrote: Anyone familiar with old, batteryless, exposure meters--specifically a GE Type DW-68 (made of metal and glass, takes readings with "cover closed", "cover open", and "hood off")? Were these any good /very accurate? If so, how would you operate it? Hi Dan, I've got a Weston Euromaster II that sounds similar to what you describe. First you dial in the film speed. Then you point the light sensor at the subject. A needle will give a reading on a scale (you have to press a button on mine and when you release it the needle locks to "remember" the reading) In bright light situations the needle may go off the scale - this is when you close the cover and a different scale comes into view behind the needle. Having got your reading you then rotate the inner dial to match the value indicated by the needle. You can then read off a range of appropriate aperture/shutter speed combinations. I've attached a picture of the Weston reading 13.5. You can see the film speed is set to 200asa or 24din. The dial has been rotated to match 13.5 on the pointer and round the outside I can choose a suitable shutter/aperture combination e.g. 1/1000 at F8. Yours will be different but I'm sure the principle will be the same. In my experience if used correctly they are very accurate. The trick is in the pointing of the meter. It's easy to get too much sky area just like with TTL but since it has a wide area of view even easier. Get in close for your reading if possible. If the "hood" is translucent then when fitted it's intended to measure the ambient light. i.e. the light falling on and illuminating the subject not the reflected light from the subjet. Fit the hood go to the front of the camera and take a reading pointing backwards towards the camers. this time you do want the reaging from the sky or sun or other light source. Take the reading and then use it as described above. Not sure if attachments allowed. If not I'll upload the picture to somewhere suitable if anyone can suggest such a place. Or maybe email it direct if asked. Peter Manchester England - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Digital vs Film
Dick Graham wrote The one product digital CANNOT give you is first generation slides, and every now and then I love to run a few rolls of slide film through my cameras. There will always be a film camera in my arsenal. If you use a Computer monitor instead of a projector and screen then isn't a digital image a first generation slide? Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: News from PMA - MZ-S and other stuff
But the RTSIII has 100% coverage and a relatively high-eyepoint finder, and those things aren't unrelated to magnificaton. Generally, eye relief and/or higher coverage both make it harder to achieve high magnification, and high magnification makes it harder to achieve 100% coverage and/or good eye relief. High Magnification , High Eyepoint, x% coverage? I'm getting confused - what does it mean to me? I have an ME-Super and MZ7 so I decided to compare the viewfinders using the same 50mm K mount lens. Magnification - the ME super gave a much larger brighter image - but the metering/shutter speed information was out of site when wearing glasses unless I turned the camera slightly. Without my glasses I can neither read the metering info nor see the split screen clearly enough to focus. MZ7 - smaller dimmer image but I could see the full information with or without glasses due to the dioptre adjustment in the viewfinder. Focusing was easy with or without glasses if using the focus confirmation LED. (easier still if using the beep but I find that irritating and have it switched off) I still don't know what is meant by .75x magnification though - can somebody explain? Field of view (coverage) Well I spent ages setting both cameras on a tripod and moving objects about on a table to detect the edges of the field of view but couldn't discern the difference between the two. Then I looked at the specs. ME-Super 92% MZ7 series 92%. DOH! (_8(|) High Eyepoint - I've no idea what this means. Conclusion - I like the large bright viewfinder on the ME Super and would appreciate similar in a MZ spec. From reading other contributors comments the restriction seems to be a result of limited space for the pentaprism and viewscreen because of the pop up flash unit. So why does it have to be mounted on the pentaprism? 35mm compacts have pop up flashes without even having a pentaprism to mount them on so that proves that it is not the only solution. Peter Manchester, England - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OTHER PMA
Regarding the prototype digital SLR http://www.dpreview.com/news/0102/01021106pentaxdigitalslr.asp Why does it have to be so big? We know it cant be a power drive so is that an enormous battery pack on the bottom? I think digital will be great when the cameras offer the same creative options as film cameras - but to me handling is oh so important and I absolutely hated my SFXn because of its bulk and ponderous focussing. The MZ/ZXs redressed that when they handled as nicely as the ME Super. Otherwise it looks very much like the MZS. PS - has anyone published any figures in terms of effective "megapixel" resolution of various films. PPS - I read a couple of years ago about someone working on a "digital film" for fitting in any 35mm camera - does anyone know what happened to that? Perhaps the power requirements killed it off. Alternatively what about a digital back? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: ME super repaired / theatre photos
Somebody was asking about ME super repairers (sorry I cannot remember who, this nomail option has its disadvantages) - if you're looking in the north of England I would recommend these people. Well I live in the N of England so would find the info useful but I couldn't find it in your posting. Mind repeating it? Cheers Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: The AF assist beam / body for MF only
Wieland Willker wrote: I am currently thinking about getting a new body. Me too so if you find out how to do this let me know. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What is the 'best' M42 pre-spotmatic camera?
Frantisek wrote: P.S I should have guessed your location from the domain @btinternet.com, does it mean (gasp!) British Telecom? Do they still suck ;) ? They blow too because I can both send and receive email :) Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What is the 'best' M42 pre-spotmatic camera?
"I guess it just comes down to something appealing about going out with a mechanical body, hand-held meter, and two or three primes. I realise it won't allow me to do anything I can't already do with my plethora of K mount stuff, but I think it will be a fun and rewarding experience." When I first got into photography in the early 70s I used "Practica" cameras from East Germany. My first one was an "L2" - 42mm screw mount, no meter, and completely mechanical 1 to 1/1000 sec shutter and very nice Carl Zeiss Jena F1.8 50mm and 135mm f3.5. I know it's not Pentax "except the mount" but I believe there is some connection. If you could find one I bet they change hands for very small amounts nowadays. I did at the time however lust after the more expensive TTL technology then being offered by Pentax and others. Regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
