Re: away from this for a few days ...
You have all of our condolences Godfrey. I hope the time with your brothers goes beyond wrapping up affairs and is also a time for you to share memories. stan On Jan 26, 2008, at 9:24 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Friends on the PDML, My mother has passed away at the age of 84 after a protracted period of failing health. I'll be traveling to New York today to attend the services and help my brothers wrap up affairs. I'll not have much time to look at things for a bit. I visited her at the beginning of December so we could share some time together while she was still able and smiling. She was alert and able to talk until just a couple of days ago, I was able to talk to her on the phone Wednesday and say a last good-bye. Her consciousness faded on Thursday. Yesterday one of my brothers was in attendance at her side when she went softly to sleep and gently stopped breathing for the last time. She was a remarkable person ... even beyond being my mother and putting up with me... with tremendous strength of will and a huge heart. She suffered many adversities in her life with guts and good humor, always with the best intent for those around her and never a thought for herself. We will all miss her and hold her memory dearly. Godfrey Only in silence the word, only in dark the light, only in dying, life; bright the hawk's flight on the empty sky. - Song of Ea, U. K. LeGuin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Museum visit report (Large format photography)
My family are all from small-town rural areas, sometime in the next few years I'll be retiring and moving to a small town, but during my adult life I have always lived in cities. And one thing I have always appreciated about cities are the museums and galleries. Here in Kansas City the Nelson-Atkins is a mid-range (not great) museum, but last year finished a major expansion with the construction of a highly acclaimed (by architects nationally) and frequently ridiculed (by local rubes) new modern space adjoining the original 1930's typical neo-gothic pile of stone. Coincident with, or maybe because of, the expansion, Hallmark Cards (headquartered here in town) gave the museum their entire collection of hundreds of thousands photographic images. And so the new space has large spaces devoted to photography. One relatively permanent section with images of the Masters, a second section with rotating collections of lesser-know artists, and sometimes a photography exhibit in one of the two Special Exhibits sections. Yesterday through early April one of the Special Exhibits is on the work of Art Sinsabaugh. Some of his early work while a student in Chicago in the early 1950's, and then images from his midwest landscape series and his Chicago series, both done in the early-mid 60's. Sinsabaugh used a large format camera. I mean, really large! 12'' x 20 large! His camera (and the very sturdy wooden tripod) were there as part of the exhibit. One of the fascinating aspects of his work is that they were all printed 20' wide (presumably contact printed from the negative.) However, for many of the midwest landscape shorts, the print was only 1-2 tall, and none were over 5 inches tall. So you have a panorama effect achieved through selective cropping from the top, with a very successful result. Though there were a couple I would have liked to have seen full-frame; I think the huge empty sky that he cropped out could have been at least as effective as the very short very wide panoramas. (His Chicago prints tended to be taller because of the greater vertical content he was dealing with in the city.) A smaller exhibit had photos by contemporary photographers Mark Klett and Bryon Wolfe and by Mark Ruwedel. KlettWolfe have done many recreations of the masters' work, locating the exact spot, angle, time of day etc. where Muybridge or Adams must have stood to take some of their iconic images. Their prints are mostly stitched- together panoramas overlaid with reproductions of prints from the original artist. So you can see the broad view, and see what elements of the scene Ansel or whoever chose to focus on. In one particular image, they found a spot on the shore of Lake Tenaya (Yosemite) where at various times Muybridge (1872), Weston (1937) and Adams (1942) all stood and took three very different pictures. A fascinating demonstration of the art of composition. I am not sure about the Sinsabaugh exhibit, but I wouldn't be surprised if the KlettWolfe work showed up at a gallery or museum near you one of these days - worth an afternoon. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)
The 35/2.8 Ltd (macro) is still there on the list. The 30mm will be more compact, I would guess also a 2.8. stan On Jan 29, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On 1/29/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Interesting, I see the DA 35 SDM has become a DA* 30 SDM. I'm going to assume that means it's going to be f1.4. The 15 Limited sounds interesting too, although I wonder how much they can improve on the already excellent DA 14. And SDM TC's are coming, Pentax's first new TC's since the SMC-F era brought us the F 1.7x. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Sunday 50-200
Yes - you bought this from me. A very capable lens which I sold to partially finance the DA*50-135... I was expecting to also get the DA*60-250, I miss the long end of the 50-200 and am patiently (?) waiting for the new lens. stan On Feb 3, 2008, at 10:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Decided to sell a couple of lenses, both Pentax and Canon, to partially, very partially, finance the DA* 50-135. For sale DA 50-200. Not a bad lens at all. I think I bought it used from Stan H. in 2006 (and he hadn't had it long), but due to a glitch in AOL, I've lost almost all my archived mail from 2006 and can't verify that. I've shot with it about four times as far as I can figure out, maybe only three. I think I added the lens hood. Some slight scratches to the hood (in the finish, not so you'd notice have to look at it under the light) hood and one small nick on edge to lens hood. Lens itself is in very good to excellent condition. Included: hood (says Pentax), and front and rear lens caps (both say Pentax) $145 + Shipping to wherever you are. If you are interested, please contact me off list. Sorry for missing Friday but only decided to sell it yesterday. Marnie aka Doe :-) Doesn't sell here it goes to ebay. - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Big Freakin Lens
On Feb 5, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Christian wrote: Steve Desjardins wrote: For example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EF_1200mm_lens Yours for less than US$100,000.00 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? A=RetrieveSkuIC=557508Q=O= Christian http://photography.skofteland.net They say ... Longest Fixed Canon ... I know what happens to my cat when he is fixed. What does it imply for a Canon? stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No question mark about Polaroid film (was Re: Kodak to sell off film production?)
I just had pictures take for passport renewal. They used a Polaroid. Much faster and easier than digital. stan On Feb 8, 2008, at 4:41 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: For everything except large format film Polaroid stopped making sense several years ago. I'm surprised they were still making film in the US at all. I'd thought they'd outsourced it. Most digital cameras have been able to compete with Polaroid sized prints for years now, and are much more efficient from the users point of view. I will miss the Polaroid 4x5 sheet film that made a proof and an enlargeable negative at the same time, but then I'd have to get a large format camera to enjoy it anyway at this point. Derby Chang wrote: Scott Loveless wrote: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/ technology/article1343516.ece http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2008/02/08/ polaroid_shutting_2_mass_facilities_laying_off_150/ -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Camden Lock Market Ablaze
Very sad. I hope the area recovers quickly. stan On Feb 9, 2008, at 6:18 PM, Cotty wrote: Popular PDML meeting place goes up in flames http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7237119.stm -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Need new webhost
A couple of years ago I took Mark's recommendation for pair.com and have been very pleased. I have had a few occasions to ask dumb questions related to hosting and using the several domains I have hanging off their servers; their responses are always reasonably prompt, very detailed, very helpful. And their responses are signed, so follow-up questions go back to the same person who already understands the context. I just started up a blog for a church project at a cost of an extra $2.95/month for installation and use of MovableType. stan On Feb 10, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: John Celio wrote: After ten years using ezpublishing.com to host my website, and after five months of horrible service and thousands upon tens of thousands of unfiltered spam emails, I've decided it is time to move on. I've given these guys more than their fair share of chances, and they refuse to pick up the ball, let alone drop it. I don't understand their recent attitude towards their customers. I am looking for recommendations for good webhosts. I'd like 1gb of space for no more than US$10/month, if possible, plus good spam filtering. I'd prefer an American host, and one on the west coast would probably be best, but I'm definitely open to suggestions. I'm really happy with pair.com but their $9.95/mo plan only gets you 500 Meg of storage: http://www.pair.com/services/web_hosting/basic.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ImageIngester and geotagging
Thanks Derby. Looks interesting, and the price is right! stan On Feb 16, 2008, at 11:57 PM, Derby Chang wrote: Stan, Were you asking about geotagging a little while. If you get this little proggie, and have a Garmin or Magellan device, it will ingest your RAWs and tag them with the gps location. Seems neat. I haven't tried it myself, but Paul Butzi likes it http://photomusings.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/geotagging-with- imageingester-pro/#comment-16682 oh...and here's the link to the proggie http://basepath.com/ImageIngester/ D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lunar Eclipse Picture
Here's my contribution... http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p612914030/?photo=h350883AE#889750446 K10D, FA*-200/4 macro stan On Feb 20, 2008, at 11:29 PM, William Robb wrote: Great conditions, though perhaps a bit nippy out. This was the last shot before my fingers fell off. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/new/eclipse.html Technical: K10, ISO 400 A600/5.6 at f6.3 for 1/4 second Processed with Kodak Digital Gem for noise reduction. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: The influence of fairy cakes on Darwinian selection
Translation please. What is a fairy cake? stan On Feb 24, 2008, at 1:21 PM, Bob W wrote: It's one thing to die from a surfeit of lampreys, but this? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7261888.stm Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Did you call? Sorry, have been snoozing here. But I think you said something about people wanting to buy one or two of my K10D's? I'll be right down to take care of that... Seriously, I am very conflicted on this one. I am thinking I might get one K20D, keep one of the K10D's for a backup. But for the price of the new camera I could buy a new laptop to replace my 6-year old one. Or buy the DA*60-200 if it is ever produced. I like what I hear about the new camera but haven't convinced myself that I need it. All other things equal, I would probably wait for prices to come down when they announce the next camera (and use some frequent-flyer miles to go watch Cotty do his thing with his hat.) But I do have one week in Costa Rica in early June, and it would be a shame to buy a new camera right after such a trip... (Back to snoozing.) stan On Feb 25, 2008, at 9:34 AM, Thibouille wrote: Carlos, you may have not to wait too long if you wanna buy a K10D new. You are not the only one wanting to snag a pretty nice deal out of K10D lasting stock. Second hand should OK, sourcing from the guys ditching the K10D for a K20D ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D in stock at BH
You guys are not helping me at all... I need models of patience, not impulsiveness! stan On Feb 25, 2008, at 10:23 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: I'll bet that I could have saved $200 by waiting until June, but I went ahead with Calumet and it's in my hands now. I should have been more patient as I paid state sales tax of 7%. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? A=ShowProductis=REGQ=O=sku=542060 Mine is on its way. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: The modern age
When I was a kid, I remember telling the teacher I had the paper ready to turn in but the dog ate it. And it was a true story - a Basset Hound pup who had three dominant characteristics. He could sit and look cute, he had a beautiful voice and would sit at the gate and howl when I left for school, and he would chew anything that he could get his jaws around. I just had an email from a student in the on-line course I am teaching: Dr. Halpin, I have a huge problem. My computer crashed with my paper on it. I will try to get it in by Friday but I have to rewrite the whole thing... No matter how things change, they stay the same. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Battery Charger for K10D
If you would like to buy one of my K10D's, I would include the charger with it. stan On Feb 28, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Steve Desjardins wrote: OK, I'll admit defeat. I can't find the damned charger for the K10D. Since I don't want to pay $60 USD for a new Pentax one, has anyone had a good experience with one of the cheaper generic ones? Thanks. Oh yeah, and I plan to charge it to my credit card. Just thought I'd get the electrical puns started. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pretty Girls Was: test message
Link does not work for me - Server not found message. On Feb 29, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Lasse Karlsson wrote: From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:51 PM Subject: Re: test message On 29/2/08, Lasse Karlsson, discombobulated, unleashed: I can hear you well, up here in the middle of the Eastern Lake (which is my preferred name for the Baltic Sea) in Scandinavia. Amazing. Lasse! Come on mate, let's see some pretty girls :) Ha, ha - thanks for pushing the right button. Allright - I realized I can actually use my blog at my local newspaper's site to show you some pics. I just uploaded a few summer pics for you of a favourite model from a few years back. A few more further down. Just some nice shots of a very nice young lady and a great model. You'd all love to meet and work with her. She moved to Ireland though. It may take a while for the page to load, since it loads my entire blog. There'll be a lot of stuff that you won't understand very much of. But there'll also be some pics to look at. Oh yes, if you happen to find the youtube-link for the Lennon sisters - click it! It's out of this world. http://blogg.alandstidningen.ax/LasseK/index.asp?show=all Btw, if you can make out how to leave a comment to my latest entry, please do. Lasse -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Advertising (was Re: Short Attention Spans (was Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Statistics))
Interesting discussion this afternoon on NPR about the Striesand effect. Striesand filed a lawsuit objecting to a web-publication of an image of her house. Nobody had seen or paid attention to the image, but once the lawsuit was know, millions went to the site to see the image. Many other examples. Including the guy who was trying to sell an alcohol inhaler, getting no attention until he had a lawmaker file a bill to outlaw his device, at which point his sales started to go way up. To grab attention, titillate, make it forbidden fruit. Back in the 70's there was some research involving college students. They showed up for an experiment, were left in a waiting room with some file folders jumbled on the table. Most students leafed through the pages in the file folders. For some students, one of the folders was marked confidential but the contents were identical. Subsequent testing showed that they were far more likely to read and remember the information that was confidential. stan On Feb 29, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: An excellent observation on the part of Mr. Lanham. That's the culture of advertising. Grab them and don't let go. It's my stock in trade. Paul (University of Chicago, MA '73) On Feb 29, 2008, at 10:54 PM, Bong Manayon wrote: I agree...and its not really confined to photos, wine or the American culture either. I'm going through a book by Richard Lanham (Economics of Attention, Univ of Chicago Press) where in the IT age, the commodity is not information (we have too much of it) but attention. So whether in the media, politics or religion, truth may ultimately be defined by those who can get or control people's attention... ...and the new priesthood is Google (if it is not yet the god of this age)... On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce, This larger trend is also reflected in the U.S. wine industry. The Robert Parker scale is really to blame. Parker tastes zillions of wines each year, so each wine has just a few seconds to make an impression. If it is subtle rather than big, and not hot (high in alcohol), it doesn't get a high (90+) score. I think that photo.net has exactly the same problem. Delicate, subtle images just don't have a big immediate impact, so they get overlooked. Probably comes with the short attention span endemic to American culture these days, too --Mark Bruce Dayton wrote: [cut, snip] In some respects, this seems to be following a larger trend. One in which art is transcending photography. Try looking at all the photos on photo.net galleries based on popularity. Almost all the shots are s dramatic that they just don't hardly look like our planet - even people shots have heavy doctoring of lighting. Extreme skies and wild, saturated colors are the norm these days - even though where I live, I see that kind of thing maybe once every few years. I seem to be rambling...must be one of those days. -- Best regards, Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bicycle Race Photography
And the Tour of Missouri is in the same category. (Not coincidentally, it is organized by the same group that does California and Georgia.) stan On Mar 13, 2008, at 8:29 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: John Francis wrote: Go for it! From personal experience, I can testify that skills learned photographing race cars translate directly to photographing bicycles - you just have to remember bikes go a little slower, so you might want to use a shutter speed around 2x to 4x what you would use for a car. Ooh, /there/ goes my hit rate. :-) With the cars I usually shoot 1/250 or 1/180, so 2x to 4x of that means I better not have any coffee for a week or so before the event. The Tour de Georgia is a pretty big event - only the Tour of California beats it on this side of the Atlantic. Wow! I don't know anything about bicycle racing of any sort. Access shouldn't be too much of a problem - most of the time they will let the public right up alongside the race route. The only question is whether this is practical at a track venue. With it being on the track, and the track freshly repaved last year, I suspect they may keep the crowd behind the fences. I'll have to see if my corner worker and racer contacts have any more information. April 24th, you say. I wonder if I need a trip back east ... If you make it, drop me a line, or I'm in the phone book for Cumming, GA. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Is an A24-50 worth nabbing for $80?
On Mar 17, 2008, at 1:16 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Stan should really update this site, it's getting a bit dated, and it's still useful, (Better him than me doing it, that's for sure). You are right... stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: In Memory of My Mom
Paul, you have my condolences. In my religious tradition, we (try) not to mourn the death but rather celebrate the life. Your photos are a wonderful celebration of your mother. Thank you for sharing. stan On Mar 17, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: My mother fell asleep while watching television this morning and never woke up. She was 92 years old and passed without pain or suffering. She was Grace's best friend and a wonderful mother to myself, my brother and my sister. She will be missed. The first photo below was her last. I took it Saturday night while she was eating dinner. The others are from 2006, when she was in much better health. Paul http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7067736size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5245692 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5247870size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5288310size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4704528size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ansel Adams on television
I think that was a contact print he was working on - the bank of lights was in lieu of an enlarger lamp? stan On Mar 19, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Believe I saw the same show, Frank. Was a surprisingly athletic exposure performance. I didn't quite get the reason the large bank of very bright lights in the area. You? Jack --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two most interesting things I learned after viewing the PBS show the other evening. Ansel was an accomplished musician, and the fact that he considered a negative similar to a musical score and the print was the performers interpretation of the score. Also, along these lines, I think he would have loved to be able to use PhotoShop. I don't know if that was the documentary I saw on him a couple of years ago - whether it was or not, I'm sure it was interesting. The one I saw showed him dodging and otherwise exposing a huge print in the darkroom, and it was as if he were dancing! Very cool. Given that he was something of a control-freak (or precise - whatever works best for you...) WRT both negative and print exposures, I don't doubt he'd have loved PS. It would have given him the control of the process that he wanted with much more precision than any darkroom could. Interesting observation, Bill. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not a Peso: Can someone identify this bird?
I think you should lay off, you are all crazy as a loon. stan On Mar 25, 2008, at 8:39 AM, Christian wrote: These pun threads are for the birds... Christian AlunFoto wrote: No need to be peckish. :-) Jostein 2008/3/24, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AAARRR. John Francis wrote: They're not the easiest birds to get to see. Hence the popular expression once bittern, twice shy. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One more of Mo
He was a nice looking dog. I know he is missed, and will be for a long time. And I don't think you are being morbid at all! I have been blessed with a number of companions. Every once and a while my wife and I sit and go through a litany of remembrance - my dogs, her dogs and cats, then our mutual dog and cats. Over the last 50 years I have lived with Blackie (Cocker, my brother's dog), Lisa (mostly Great Dane, my mother's dog), Houdini (Lisa's son by a neighborhood mastiff who was a great fence climber); Rin (my father's short-haired pointer); King Wenseslaus (sp?) (basset hound); Robbie (another Dane); Bubba (another Dane, this one a show dog, my mother's last dog, but he and I thought he was really mine). Then since I met my wife, the trend has been mostly to cats. Gatha (grey shorthaired cat), Galligaskins (large black and white shorthair); Oaxaca (black shorthaired cat), Muppie (Shitzu [I swore I would never be caught dead with a toy dog, but then my wife insisted I go to the pet store to see this guy]), Pharo (Abyssinian); Cattywumpus and Kittencaboodles (our current Main Coon cats). Every one of them was/is unique and had/has a special place in my life. I still miss every one. One fond memory - we lived in Paraguay where our house, like most, was in a fenced/walled-in yard. When repairmen etc. came through the front gate Blackie and Houdini would pull a two-pronged attack. Houdini, all 120 lbs of him, would come rushing around the corner of the house barking madly. We would hurriedly assure the visitors that he was nothing but bluff. Then Blackie would come around the corner, wagging not just her tail but her whole body. Watch out we would warn. They would ignore us, lean down to pet the cute friendly dog, and she would bite them on the hand or leg. Never really hurt anybody, but got their attention! stan On Mar 26, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Cory Waters wrote: I don't want to be morbid, posting pictures of my departed pal but I've been looking all over my computer for this picture that I knew was here someplace. I found it on my server drive at work, of all places. I may have posted this one to the list before, but it would have been a good long while ago. http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/2793835_9yqag#270924008_gmiC9-A-LB Peace, Cory -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LAX trip: worth carrying the camera bag?
The beach front and pier at Marina del Rey have possibilities as does the marina itself. When I was there most recently, in January, I had my Optio 555 with me but left it in the hotel room and missed a couple of evening shots of fishermen on the pier... I wouldn't take a full bag, but a single body with 16-45 or 16-50 or 20-35 could be worth it... The taxi ride to Marina would be worth it just to get to an interesting restaurant (in contrast to the plastic hotel restaurants in the Century Blvd. area). I don't recall the name, but as you walk down the main street towards the pier, on the left toward the end is a nice Italian place. On the other side of the marina (south end, other side of the inlet) there are several good places on the right side near the end of the road before the Coast Guard station. Note - this is about a two-mile walk from the old area around the pier because you have to circle inland around the whole marina area. stan On Mar 29, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Rick Womer wrote: I have a trip next week to a meeting in the luxurious LAX Marriott. Looking at Google Maps, I observe that the beach is a long 3-mile walk. A 5 or 6 mile cab ride will get me to Marina Del Ray. Time is going to be limited. Is it worth taking the camera bag along? Rick __ __ No Cost - Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now. Sweet deal for Yahoo! users and friends. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text1.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Article and pictures published
Congratulations - good exposure for you ;-) stan On Apr 2, 2008, at 4:31 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Hi gang, An article (text and pictures by me, including cover picture) on using flash with available light has been published by an Italian photo magazine called PC Photo (formerly Progresso Fotografico, established 1894). Here is the magazine cover: http://www.dariobonazza.com/puble.htm (it's the uppermost picture) All picturese were taken with K10D, AF540FGZ flash unit and several lenses. As per publisher's request, I cannot supply the article in electronic form now, but I will probably be allowed to do that within a few months. Cheers, Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Fires USA Sales Staff
Probably wishful thinking on the part of the store personnel. Distribution of goods, relationships with local retail outlets, has been a weak point of Pentax for a long time. Treated like mushrooms is an old metaphor that describes local stores in this relationship. We can only hope that the new Pentax actually makes some moves to improve the situation. Whether a 100% turnover is the answer or not is hard for anyone outside to discern. stan On Apr 4, 2008, at 10:22 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: If you try googling on it you get nothing. If it were happening I would think someone would have posted somewhere besides here. Adam Maas wrote: Or the usual dealer BS. It amazes me just how much utter crap salesmaggots say about various brands, all of it with absolutely no basis in reality. -Adam On 4/4/08, John Mullan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you say April Fool? That's what it sounds like, and the timing is right. - Original Message - From: J. Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:12 PM Subject: Pentax Fires USA Sales Staff I was in my local camera store today and the clerk I deal with knows I am a Pentax guy. She let me know that their sales rep sent an email informing them that all the USA sales reps and managers had been let go. Some of the other guys behind the counter said they heard Pentax in the states is not making money and maybe Hoya is blaming the sales staff. I just thought I would pass this along. Has anyone heard anything about what this means for Pentax USA? Jim M. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax lens prices - historical comparison
Those of you who have a filter that prevents you from viewing postings by a list member who goes by his initials which include J and C and O, you might want to unfilter for a bit and look at his 4 April 2008 8:47:56 PM CDT posting. He has begun compiling historic lens prices, and in the message he provides a URL to download his work in progress. A nobel venture; hopefully, if you have some data to add to the mix, you will set aside for the moment any differences arising from past discussions... stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Spring OFFICIALLY arrived today...
I didn't go for a ride but I did put in a few miles running errands... 66°F, sunny, only a slight breeze... Tomorrow will be my first day back to two-wheel commuting. Love it! stan On Apr 6, 2008, at 8:04 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Know the feeling. Today was my first ride on the bike, 21km. -Adam On 4/6/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... because I just fired up my motorcycle for the first time :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Speaking of Photographers rights...
Speaking of bureaucracies... As you may know, a huge cache of materials on Os' BinLad's organization has been gathered over the last few years and subjected to analysis. An interesting story in the NY Times (or Washington Post?) today (or yesterday? Sorry to be hazy on the details - between 5-days travel last week and intense effort to file multiple tax returns, I am only slowly catching up.) concerning the recently published results of the analysis. Turns out they are very bureaucratic as well! They quoted memos from agents complaining about not having been paid for three months and the rent is now six months overdue and what is a poor terrorist supposed to do. Memos about the need to cut costs, memos chastising individuals for misspending funds on luxuries. Memos to subordinates chastising them for killing too many people and giving the organization a bad name. Many memos, many rules and procedures. They make normal bureaucracies look like free-wheeling entrepreneurial outfits! stan On Apr 17, 2008, at 9:59 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:16:59 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Interesting thought, but if the terrorists know that they will be harrassed if seen skulking around carrying a big camera, would they not disguise themselves as ordinary families on vacation or some such, and use a less auspicious camera? I know, I would, were I a terrorist. I mean really, just because they have anger management issues doesn't mean they are stupid. Unlike the bureaucrats who compile these regulations who, in many cases, appear to have both problems.. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different… -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Friday wanted: 18-55 kit lens.
$50? NIB... On Apr 18, 2008, at 2:42 PM, Mat Maessen wrote: Yes, the one you got with your istD/DS/K100/K10/whatever. I know someone out there has one collecting dust, and I'm putting together a lightweight kit for motorcycle trips. The 16-45 is just a bit too bulky to fit nicely into the tank bag. Yes, it's motorcycle season again. :-D -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Cameras at Central Camera in Chicago
They might be just a little pricey! I noticed that the PENTAX SMCP-FA 20-35MM F/4 AL with case hood was going for $52995.00 I know this is a good lens, but it is not that rare... I was impressed with the number of small parts they have for older cameras. Thanks for mentioning it Christine. stan On Apr 18, 2008, at 10:54 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: If anyone collects old Pentax cameras, you might consider stopping by/calling/checking out the website of Central Camera in Chicago. I was able to stop in there today and was really surprised how many old Pentax cameras they have (as well as new). I actually saw a 67, which I had never seen before, I saw a rare Pentax lens that had built in colored filters in it. Also, Central Camera had 2 books devoted to Pentax Collectables. I meant to write down the titles to pass on, but after I finished my business there I forgot to stop back at the book rack. Sorry about that. I haven't been in Central Camera in over 20 years, and I'm happy to report the place was hoping and chuck full of both used and new items. Here's the link to the web site. http://www.centralcamera.com/home.php? xid=7c4242f6299900a7dc640477a275e4b9 Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two of my shots are to be used for a local calendar.
Both are very nice - congratulations! On Apr 18, 2008, at 9:56 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Hi all. Just got word, that 2 of the 4 photos i submitted ... will be used. ...The red barn and pond is on a golf course, and i shot it from a public road. That should not be a problem, should it. If they didn't want their barn photographed, they shouldn't have put it out in the open so close to a public road. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 18-55, 16-50, and Zenitar views compared
It looks to me like you may have bumped the tripod while changing lenses. Specifically, the 50-135 is aimed slightly higher than the 16-50. I can see slight differences that I couldn't attribute to a change in lens angle, but it is hard to tell... (Generally, the 50mm on the 50-135mm looks like it has a slightly larger FOV, but that should be true at the bottom of the picture as well as the top, and it isn't.) stan On Apr 18, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Apr 18, 2008, at 12:35 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: try comparing [EMAIL PROTECTED] and fa 50 1.4 field of view. you'll be surprised What difference are you pointing out? I see a variation in what the 50mm marked setting produces in the case of the 16-50 vs the 50-135: 16-50 @ 50mm http://homepage.mac.com/godders/perspective/content/ IMGP6297_large.html 50-135 @ 50mm http://homepage.mac.com/godders/perspective/content/ IMGP6298_large.html I no longer have an FA50 to compare against. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: troubleshooting a damaged memory card
How can you be sure? You now how it is with women and drinks... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLjsEc7rI3M stan On Apr 19, 2008, at 8:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: She's not going to drink it Cotty. Cotty wrote: On 19/4/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Alcohol works. I told you so. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Long macro lens
Barry - Pentax forte for some time was macro lenses. Lots of other good glass, but macro seemed to be an area where they really did things just right to get a superior product. (Others would argue that their 77-85 range is equally good; I would have a hard time disputing that claim. The 50mm lenses have been another special niche.) I have had substantial experience with the M (or was it A?) 50/4.0 and the A 50/2.8. And the M 100/4.0, and the A 100/2.8, and FA100/2.8 and the DA 100/2.8. And the FA* 200/4. Not many of the later were produced, those of us who own them are not likely to let them go. But if you should find one available, run, do not walk, to the nearest bank to arrange a third mortgage, or sell your car, or otherwise rearrange your finances as needed to be able to buy it. Any of the 100mm plus 2x should also do the trick, but you will degrade the image somewhat. Any of the 200 or 300mm lenses, with a short tube to bring the close focus point nearer will do ok, but you won't get the Pentax macro quality and you will lose autofocus. I think the most realistic option is to go for the DA 100/2.8 which is on the market and will give good results. (If you can live with manual focus, my A 100/2.8 is on my to-be-sold list. If a DA* 200 came along I might let go of the FA*, but for now it is on my to-be-buried-with-me list.) stan On Apr 22, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Barry Rice wrote: Hey Folks, My wife is becoming increasingly interested in photography of flighty, skittish, and sometimes dangerous animals, such as butterflies, reptiles, and snakes. I realized that the ideal lens for her would be something like a 200 mm 1:1 macro. Even better would be if it were autofocus. Is there anything like this that would fit her *istDs? Or are we in a fantasy land that I couldn't afford? Currently she uses my 90mm Tamron, but can't quite get close enough with that lens. Cheers Barry Barry A. Rice, Ph.D. Invasive Species Specialist Invasive Species Team The Nature Conservancy V: 530-754-8891 http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I'm bummed that I'll be driving a car to GFM this year...
This is one shot where BW rendering is definitely not recommended! Nice bike. Congratulations. stan On Apr 24, 2008, at 7:02 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Camera gear, camping gear, computer gear and boxes of t-shirts. Yep, gotta drive the car. Too bad, because I just parked this in my driveway: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/2001_955.jpg (Shown actually *in* my driveway) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D v Lightroom exposure and histograms
To amplify just a bit on Godder's reply... If you shoot a few frames as RAW+JPEG and then import them into LR, it is easy to see at a glance which are the JPEG (lighter) and which are the RAW (darker). I was reminded of this last night while scrolling through way too many thumbnails to try and find a shot of my mother-in-law that my wife needed ASAP... (Don't anybody mention Keywords to me. I know all about them and sometimes even use them. Just not on shots that I have any reason to look for later.) I came across a bunch of duplicate shots, with one version lighter than the other. It took my work- and wine-befuddled mind a while before I realized that they were from the brief era when I was doing the RAW +JPEG thing. (Don't ask why, I haven't a clue. It must have seemed like a good idea at the time.) The camera does its magic processing of RAW to JPEG, saves the result and/or puts a small version of it on the LCD for you to view. And uses that JPEG version as the basis for its scene analysis which yields the histogram. You need to do that processing yourself with the RAW output. Which I usually find usually involves adding some exposure or fill-lighting. This was true with the *ist-D as well as the K10D. stan On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:34 PM, Rick Womer wrote: =Why= am I asking this question, just four days from my K10D's first birthday and the expiry of its warranty? Anyway... I've been looking at the histogram on the camera more lately, and noticed that it usually does not correspond to the histogram in Lightroom. So, I set the camera according to Godfrey's recommendations of several months ago. Not much help: in BW, the image on the camera's LCD and histogram is about 1 stop brighter than the image and histogram that Lightroom gives me. In color, there is more variation, with the histogram (and the blinkies) 0.5 to 1.25 stops brighter than Lightroom. This is something I can live with (rather than part with my camera for two weeks, and $150!), but I'm curious about whether it is typical or correctable, either in LR or in the camera. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http:// mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On its way to Colorado
A dentimeter is what you use to evaluate cameras you want to sell on eBay... stan On May 5, 2008, at 10:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Jeeez, I have to proofread my messages. (Mind wasn't ordered. It came as standard equipment, although it has proven to be defective:-. And how big is a dentimeter? ) Paul On May 5, 2008, at 11:12 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: My K10D is on its way to Pentax Service in Colorado. I tested it today with the DA* lenses, which work great on my K20D. Not even close. It backfocuses by anywhere from two dentimeters to ten centimeters, depending on the focal length and lens.(That's centimeters, not millimeters.) I had heard that early K10Dx required a revision to work with the DA* lenses. Mind was ordered on day one, so it's definitely an early camera. It had also become stuck in multi- image mode. It couldn't be switched back to single image. I could have lived with that, but not with the DA* focus problem. I have to be able to use it with one or the other of those lenses when shooting events with two cameras. It focuses quite nicely with all of my other autofocus lenses. Seems to be a problem relative to the in-lens ultrasonic motor operation. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA 35 macro limited
I agree with other comments - #6 is a nice shot. Very rich color - an interesting challenge to see if you can print this and have it look anything like the screen version... stan On May 10, 2008, at 4:29 AM, Toine wrote: A few samples: http://www.repiuk.nl/peso Clicking on the images loads the full size jpg. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It finally arrived and collected this gem today. My first limited and the build quality is amazing. The test shots are all very sharp and excellent contrast. Macro up to 1:1, very difficult to get sharp pics at 1:1 handheld, SR doesn't help. The build in hood must slide back or else the subject is allmost inside the hood. No bug hunting with this lens. Should be a very nice walkaround lens. Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Can anyone identify this pun?
The shot is of a woman on stairs (or a ladder?), the woman has a ladder in her stockings. Is that what you are looking for? stan On May 18, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Bob W wrote: http://www.web-options.com/Stepladder.jpg Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Can anyone identify this pun?
Hmph. I needed more wine. On May 19, 2008, at 2:56 AM, Bob W wrote: She's on some steps. She's got a ladder in her tights, but it's not a real ladder. So it must a stepladder! Ha, ha, ha! I should win some sort of award for that. Bob The shot is of a woman on stairs (or a ladder?), the woman has a ladder in her stockings. Is that what you are looking for? stan On May 18, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Bob W wrote: http://www.web-options.com/Stepladder.jpg Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Fwd: Pentax 645 system site???
Scott - from an earlier discussion of this question... I thought I had some discussions of 645 lenses etc. stashed away but haven't found anything yet. If I find them I will forward to you to help you get started on your project... Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Pedro Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: December 17, 2005 3:25:17 PM CST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Pentax 645 system site??? Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another link: http://www.chrysis.net/photo/pentax/pentax645n.htm Take care. Pedro Oliveira -Mensagem original- De: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada: sábado, 17 de Dezembro de 2005 11:38 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: Re: Pentax 645 system site??? On 2005-12-17, at 01:10, Pedro Oliveira wrote: The only site I found concerning the Pentax 645 is this one: http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/p645/index.html The only problem is that it is...in Japanese. But you can find interesting information there. Hope it helps. Thanks! Seems to be the most complete 645 site so far :-) In links to other pages I found one site of Japanese photographer who regularly uses 645. Especially interesting is overview of his works during past 5 years: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent? lp=ja_entrurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.takeuchitoshinobu.jp%2fhisory% 2findex.htm In 2005 we find: The CANON calendar spreading/displaying LANDSCAPE ground for The CANON salon - isn't that ironic and fun? ;-) -- Best regards Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM: Packed and ready to roll
A beautiful bike, nicely packed. Bon voyage! stan On May 27, 2008, at 7:18 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/roadtrip.jpg :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM and the Carolina's in summer
I'll be in the Traverse City MI area from about the 16th - 26th of July if anyone wants to stop by... stan On May 27, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Dave, The Smokey Mountain National Park will be very busy. I imagine bumper to bumper traffic over the mountains thru the gap (RT 441). Gatlinburg is worse with tourists and Pigeon Forge is 'the pits'. Gas prices should put all of the Ohio valley there this summer for a local vacation. Have you thought about the east coast of Lake Michigan? Ken Waller Mark Cassino's territory? I could do that. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 11:52 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I';m still a bit miffed at having to miss this years gala, and have tossed this idea around with the treasury department. Once school is out for July and August, the only work i'll have is my horse shows, weekends, but i do have 2 maybe 3 free weekends to do some travel. I suppose i could also do it during the week, now that i think about it. I know what the are is like this time of year, lots of weather changes, lots of mist in the hills, etc, but whats it like in that neck of the woods in summer. Would one still get the ahhh factor.?? How busy would the parkway be. I'll assume very. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO- Venice
Sunday I completed my first trial book on the Blurb site. Have no clue how the images in the book will compare to what I was working on at my computer; I'll find out late next week. Meanwhile, since I had the Venice collection sorted and some selections made already, I just uploaded a selection to Zenfolio. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/ and, obviously, select the Venice folder. #61 is for Gianfranco, but also for Frank... stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO- Venice
Thanks Christine (and others who have commented.) It is probably going to be a couple of weeks before I can comment on how well the book comes out. I'll be out of town most of the coming week, even if it comes by the time I get back home, I'll be too busy sorting/packing for the following week's trip to Costa Rica. My calibration approach is quite crude. I have an iMac with nice bright LCD monitor. I have an Epson printer that I seldom use, but my wife needed something printed in color a few weeks ago so I put in new cartridges and did not only her job but also printed a few of my photos. I discovered (rediscovered) that images that look right on my nice bright screen look too dark on paper. So I adjusted my monitor to a lower intensity, increased exposure on the images (.66-1.0 stops) to get them bright enough on the darker screen, and then was able to get decent prints on the Epson. I used the same approach with the images Blurb will be printing in the book. We'll see... For what it is worth, when I look at the pdf preview of my book vs. previews of others' books, the images on screen seem comparable, so I think I will be at least fairly close. stan On May 30, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Stan: Ah, Venice: love, music, art, culture, romance, great food-- and laundry? ;-) Seriously, those photos are just lovely. Some favs are 2, 7, 10, 24, 27, 36, 41, 42. Stan, I'd be very interested in knowing your impressions of how the photos look in the book. Do you have the type of computer monitor that Mark Roberts was talking about--the fancy souped up ones: IPS or VA? Again, great collection. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:17 PM Subject: GESO- Venice Sunday I completed my first trial book on the Blurb site. Have no clue how the images in the book will compare to what I was working on at my computer; I'll find out late next week. Meanwhile, since I had the Venice collection sorted and some selections made already, I just uploaded a selection to Zenfolio. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/ and, obviously, select the Venice folder. #61 is for Gianfranco, but also for Frank... stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Venice
Nice one Dan. I walked by there 15-20 times and for some reason that view never grabbed me. I probably only have one or two shots of that bridge. Yours makes me think I need to pay more attention if/when I go back. stan On May 30, 2008, at 7:49 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Stan's wonderful Venice gallery reminded me of one of my favorite shots of the Bridge of Sighs: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7332120 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO- Venice
In interest of full disclosure, #2 (and a few others) are by my wife with an Optio 555. #2 was from inside a museum in Burano, looking through a very old window at the building across the way. She and I both did several shots, I prefer hers. stan On May 30, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Stan: Ah, Venice: love, music, art, culture, romance, great food-- and laundry? ;-) Seriously, those photos are just lovely. Some favs are 2, 7, 10, 24, 27, 36, 41, 42. Stan, I'd be very interested in knowing your impressions of how the photos look in the book. Do you have the type of computer monitor that Mark Roberts was talking about--the fancy souped up ones: IPS or VA? Again, great collection. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:17 PM Subject: GESO- Venice Sunday I completed my first trial book on the Blurb site. Have no clue how the images in the book will compare to what I was working on at my computer; I'll find out late next week. Meanwhile, since I had the Venice collection sorted and some selections made already, I just uploaded a selection to Zenfolio. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/ and, obviously, select the Venice folder. #61 is for Gianfranco, but also for Frank... stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO- Venice
Thanks Ken! By the way, my original reference to #61 was an error - I meant #60. Our Saturday in Venice was spent with a small PDML gathering (who show up in another one of the shots). This shot was inside a restaurant, and shows a mirror image of Gianfranco, camera stuck to his eyeball, with Dario in the background. The mirror into to which I was shooting, as I recall, was a very old dirty window which because of the lighting was partially reflective. I like to think that Monet would approve... stan On May 30, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Nice work Stan. I especially like the vivid colors. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GESO- Venice Sunday I completed my first trial book on the Blurb site. Have no clue how the images in the book will compare to what I was working on at my computer; I'll find out late next week. Meanwhile, since I had the Venice collection sorted and some selections made already, I just uploaded a selection to Zenfolio. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/ and, obviously, select the Venice folder. #61 is for Gianfranco, but also for Frank... stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Kim 6981
Nice shot. You must have a pretty good size studio if you are going to be shooting bull bodies though... (Somebody was going to say, I thought I might just as well.) stan On May 30, 2008, at 3:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: ... but my studio isn't large enough to shoot bull body pics with a 135. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7334349 -- . -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Kim 6838
I like this one much better! The total combination of pose, expression, clothing... stan On May 30, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: One more. A bit softer look, different outfit. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7334354 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO- Venice
Gorgeous photos, Stan, but I'm at a loss. I mean, I like boats and all, but I'm not sure why the gondola is for me? Lovely photo, however... :-) cheers, frank Thanks for looking Frank. You missed my correction. Go back and look at #60. I thought it had a feel slightly reminiscent of Theriaultian style... stan On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunday I completed my first trial book on the Blurb site. Have no clue how the images in the book will compare to what I was working on at my computer; I'll find out late next week. Meanwhile, since I had the Venice collection sorted and some selections made already, I just uploaded a selection to Zenfolio. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/ and, obviously, select the Venice folder. #61 is for Gianfranco, but also for Frank... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM gallery
Thanks Mark! A masterful collection. I will really really try to be there next year. Intended to this year but my work schedule etc. just got too full. By this time next year I may be retired and, maybe, with fewer complications in my life... stan On Jun 5, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Put together a gallery of stuff from last week. A few good shots. A few silly ones. http://www.robertstech.com/blog/photos/gallery01/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Uh oh
...as the actress said to the Bishop stan On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:13 PM, David Savage wrote: At 09:55 AM 17/06/2008, George Sinos wrote: She said hers was more of a poke and hope. That line has so many potential uses... vbg Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fun pics
At our family cabin near Traverse City Mich we have reds, blacks, and grays. And ground squirrels. In Midland, not that far south, only blacks and grays. stan On Jun 8, 2008, at 5:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fun pics indeed. Good job. We have plenty of reds in Michigan. And blacks. No greys. When I lived in Chicago we had nothing but greys. Paul -- Original message -- From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 8/6/08, willdo-1, discombobulated, unleashed: I was looking out of my bedroom window an hour ago and saw this guy messing about. So I grabbed the camera and went out. I sneaked around a corner and saw him perched on a branch. I simply could not hold the camera steady enough, but the pictures do show what the little guy looks likes. http://picasaweb.google.com/don.donwilliams/Nutkin Nice set. Long time since I've seen a red - here in the UK the greys have mugged and topped most of them. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shooting plan
Chiming in late here, still catching up after a week away... I don't think it is plagiarism (copying of ideas) so much as it is a common application of rules of composition. I don't believe I have ever seen either of the two alley shots Bob references in the second part of his note below. However, I am sure that someplace I have seen a shot of an alleyway that was mostly empty, but with one point of contrast: a walker, a child playing, a bicycle against the wall, a kitten in the patch of sun. Whenever I travel in places with narrow alleys (e.g., Stockholm, Singapore, Naples) I look for, wait for, that moment that allows me to apply the lesson of composition I learned looking at other photos like these: empty space is just empty space, no matter how interesting the architecture that surrounds it, unless there is an element of contrast to emphasize the emptiness of the space. There are probably a few hundred thousand variants of shots showing bicycles leaning against walls, but it doesn't mean that the next person who uses a bicycle against a wall is copying someone else; rather he is putting the same principles to use. As millions of photographers follow the same relatively limited rule set with a finite set of objects to photograph, a certain sameness may begin to appear. But I can appreciate the subtle differences in execution just as I can appreciate the differences between renditions of the same classical piece by three different orchestras. As I mentioned once before, I saw an exhibit in our museum this spring - don't recall the names, but the project represented was searching out the exact spots where the Masters (e.g., Weston, St. Ansel, etc.) had placed their tripods to take some of their iconic images of Yosemite, etc. One interesting mosaic showed how three of the Greats had stood in basically the same place on the edge of a Yosemite Park parking lot, many years apart, had looked down the valley, and had taken very different shots of the same scene. Subtle differences in angles, in focal length of the lens used, but essentially the same scene. And each was a unique image because of those subtle differences. If you are seeing sameness, look deeper for the subtleties that discriminate among the superficially similar images. stan On Jun 13, 2008, at 5:07 PM, Bob W wrote: On this subject of originality again, compare these 2 pictures. Both taken in Fez by Magnum photographers (Abbas and Bruno Barbey), 7 years apart: http://www.magnumphotos.com/Archive/C.aspx?VP=Mod_ViewBox.ViewBoxZoom_ VPageVBID=2K1HZO455SNUBIT=ImageZoom01PN=3STM=TDTTM=ImageSP=Searc hIID=2S5RYDWO3AKISAKL=TSGBT=TDT=Image http://tinyurl.com/64ytsg and http://www.magnumphotos.com/Archive/C.aspx?VP=Mod_ViewBox.ViewBoxZoom_ VPageVBID=2K1HZO455SZI9IT=ImageZoom01PN=11STM=TDTTM=ImageSP=Sear chIID=2S5RYDIVPS83SAKL=TSGBT=TDT=Image http://tinyurl.com/5kqova Now, if I don't see a donkey carrying a TV when I'm there I shall be mightily pissed off! My expectations have been set. And how about these? Different photographers, different countries, 35 years apart. HCB: http://www.magnumphotos.com/Archive/C.aspx?VP=Mod_ViewBox.ViewBoxZoom_ VPageVBID=2K1HZO455498OIT=ImageZoom01PN=1STM=TDTTM=ImageSP=Searc hIID=2S5RYDIPAPAPSAKL=TSGBT=TDT=Image http://tinyurl.com/69qtsz Barbey: http://www.magnumphotos.com/Archive/C.aspx?VP=Mod_ViewBox.ViewBoxZoom_ VPageVBID=2K1HZO455O7X1IT=ImageZoom01PN=2STM=TDTTM=ImageSP=Searc hIID=2S5RYDIXWXWXSAKL=TSGBT=TDT=Image http://tinyurl.com/5dg43b So now I have to do one of those. As an hommage, you understand. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: 13 June 2008 21:52 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Shooting plan I don't exactly have a shooting list, but I like to visit places where pictures were taken that I really like. I like to try and understand what the photographer saw when he went there, and how easy or difficult it must have been to get the picture. For instance, the view of the Ile de la Cite from Pont Neuf in Paris has been photographed 273 billion times, but somehow THE picture of it, for me, is Cartier-Bresson's http://www.magnumphotos.com/Archive/C.aspx?VP=Mod_ViewBox.ViewBoxZoom_ VPageVBID=2K1HZO45X3IE9IT=ImageZoom01PN=3STM=TDTTM=ImageSP=Searc hIID=2S5RYDIOUH0USAKL=TSGBT=TDT=Image http://tinyurl.com/5snu4q I've been there any number of times, but have never seen it like that, and have never seen a picture of it as nice as that. But I've taken a lot of pictures of my own that I like around that area because I've gone there as a result of that photograph. I don't want to make duplicates or copies of other people's pictures - it would be impossible by the nature of Magnum photography anyway - but I do like to see what they saw, to try to understand the processes that make them great
Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1
My wife has the DLux Leica. It is a nice camera, little shutter lag, good autofocus, good exposure calculations. But, like most modern PS cameras, no viewfinder. So you have to hold the stinking thing at arms length to frame the image. Oh, and I tried to tell her it was a clone of the Panasonic and we could save a couple hundred bucks, even after we bought some red paint, but she wanted the factory-applied red Leica dot. stan On Jun 17, 2008, at 5:13 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The deal killer is the shutter delay. In truth, I think the Leica is a clone of the Panasonic. Paul On Jun 17, 2008, at 3:43 AM, Anthony Farr wrote: Steve Desjardins asked: Someone mentioned that some of the PS cameras are starting to fill the niche rangefinders used to have. I'm not agreeing with this, but what is the highest quality PS you can get? A quick trawl of DPR's database got me these: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Sigma/sigma_dp1.asp is a large sensor compact. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Ricoh/ricoh_grdigital2.asp is the latest digital version of the cultish GR series. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Nikon/nikon_cpp5100.asp http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/canon_g9.asp are Nikon's and Canon's highest spec versatile compacts. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Fujifilm/fujifilm_F100fd.asp is Fujifilm's latest in the cultish F**fd series. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Leica/leica_dlux3.asp is a very nice compact Leica. There's a clone Panasonic but I don't know its name. Mostly the cameras I chose are not ultra compact and usually have redeeming features to deserve cult status, such as exceptional low light performance, a good wide angle lens, good manual controls, good viewfinders (not just the rear LCD), RAW file saving, or they just look good. If a camera doesn't tick all the boxes it will be outstanding in one or more of the other criteria. It's not a definitive list, just my feelings. Regards, Anthony Farr. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: PDML mascot sighted...
... in Costa Rican rain forest last week. Wearing a disguise. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/?photo=h38E321E7#954409447 stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: off-topic: Spain rules
I know Germany had one player out for a few minutes getting face repairs, but it seemed for most of the match that Spain had more people on the field than Germany. The TV feed seldom provided a wide shot, so it is hard to know whether the missing Germans were lolling about, running in the wrong direction, or playing a really fine zone defense in the wrong place. As the TV commentator said, clearly the best team won the match. stan On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:00 PM, Bob W wrote: Hey, thanks to all. I have been waiting s many years for this to come that I just can believe my eyes. The best thing is that they indeed deserved to win. They have managed to sustain a good and attractive style even against the always difficult German team. Good news for those who like watching football as an spectacle, I would say (as opposite to 'just win, no matter how'). Yes - a great win. Made even better by Germany being the losers! I'd have been gutted if Germany had won. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Slightly OT: Ethical use of photos, horse show venues
On Jul 2, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: In addition, be sure your contact information is included in the meta data of all your image files - name, address, phone number, web site, e-mail address, copyright notice, etc. and be sure it's not stripped from the file when you re-size for the web. Then illicit users can't say they couldn't find you to get permission to use the image(s). You can batch update the meta data using BreezeBrowser. Or Lightroom. stan -p Mark Roberts wrote: Dave, you need to make sure there's a copyright notice on all your web pages and notify FaceBook (or whatever site is involved), referencing your web site. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hello list -and FA* 2.8 28-80mm AL
Congratulations on the family additions! And welcome back. I hope you didn't stop by just for the equipment sales... stan On Jul 2, 2008, at 3:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello guys I've been off list for about six months now. I've been buzy doing other things - I got married, got a new family and home - as well as new born son - Alvin. He is eight weeks old these days. I'm looking foreward to reading you postings again. I've come across and old 28-80mm for sale. They sell for 1000 usd at ebay. Are they really worth it? I recently purchased a Tamron 28-75 mm. It is excellent. Is the quality difference really justifying huge difference in pricing (2½ times), please? Regards Jens PS I got near mint smc A 3.5 15mm and a fine MX body (chrome) for sale if anyone is interested. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got curious about announced Pentax Products
I agree - I would pay two or three times as much for this lens. stan On Jul 3, 2008, at 9:07 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: This one seem like quite the bargain... http://www.parkcameras.com/ProductDetails/mcs/productID/5298 -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good Morning PDML: For Dave Savage
Nice series! She looks good to me. And the skin tone is ok also. Contact her and offer to sell one of the shots for her to use in promos... stan On Jul 21, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Oh, yes. She's very talented. Hard to shoot though--you know, she wiggles about a lot. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: Good Morning PDML: For Dave Savage LOL The are very vibrant dynamic. And she is cute. But can she sing? Cheers, Dave 2008/7/22 Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Slideshow http://photo.net/photodb/slideshow?folder_id=850293 Folder with Thumbnails http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=850293 Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Self Publishing
I haven 't dealt with them. Two comments, based on a look through their site: Compared to Blurb.com, a. prices are quite a bit higher b. they seem to have fewer page-layout templates. Also, in their streaming-video introduction, as they flashed through their example, I think I saw that their shipping options were all fairly pricey. None of the above matter, of course, if you are looking for best quality, price be damned. Assuming that their quality matches their price... Stan On Aug 9, 2008, at 1:34 AM, William Robb wrote: I saw a book from these guys yesterday. I was fairly impressed with the quality of the printing (though not the photography). Has anyone here dealt with them? http://mypublisher.com/ Thanks William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Next time your packing for that photo trip...
Interesting. One thing that I wonder about - my own approach to packing multiple containers has always been to split the load, to build redundancy into the system. In other words, if you lose one bag in transit, do you really want to lose all of your Remote gear? Wouldn't you rather have the Remote equipment scattered among multiple bags so that the chances are at least some will get through? This is a fundamental principle in expedition planing, where you can always assume that some loads will be lost in transit, some in customs, and some when a yak or sherpa falls off the trail and into a river. As all grandmothers everywhere used to say, don't put all of your eggs into one basket... Once you arrive on site, you can repack the bags for convenience and ready access. stan On Aug 10, 2008, at 12:46 AM, David Savage wrote: ... the missus (or mister) complains that you've packed too much: http://www.vincentlaforet.com/Gear/index.html ..show them this. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Got my book from Blurb.com
I think my Venice book came out pretty well with Blurb. Hardcover, 10.5x8 (?), their mid-size. 40 pages or so. Then I did a 20-page softcover 7x7 of photos from a family event. 20 pages. Quality was fine, no complaints there, but a 20-page softcover is just not a very substantial package. For anything less than 40-60 pages I definitely recommend the hardcover version for gifts. Stan On Aug 12, 2008, at 4:36 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Glad to hear Walter. I'm in the process of picking 20-30 shots from my rural drives for a possible Xmas book for family. Need to go through a ton of negs and get about 10 good shots scanned. Most likely the ones i printed in that dark room class i took a few years ago. Dave On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it looks great!! I can't believe however that after all the checking and double checking I did, I still found 2 spelling errors!!! Oh well, I had only ordered one each of the different hardcovers. I made changes and uploaded the edited version. Now I will order some for gifts! Thanks to Mark and others who mentioned this company. I am very pleased with their quality! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax, wake up! (was: K and M lenses are now obsolete)
on 2/12/03 8:23 PM, Mark Roberts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Franklin Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I've been sitting out this discussion because I have no right to tell Pentax what to make. I've bought exactly one item brand-new that bore the Pentax name: a lens-cleaning cloth. Whew, ain't that the truth! I'll bet a great many of us hardly ever buy *new* Pentax products. At least, all we ever seem to read about is the old stuff. As for me, the Pentax equipment I've purchased new is: K1000 (many, many years ago - my first SLR) PZ-1p MZ-S plus BG-10 FA50/1.4 FA28/2.8AL Lets see, Pentax gear bought new (in rough chronological order): 2 @ ME-Super 1 @ M-50/1.7 1 @ M-50/1.4 1 @ M-100/2.8 2 @ PZ-1p 1 @ FA28-105 (version 1) 1 @ FA80-320 1 @ F1.7 Adapter 1 @ MZ-S 1 @ FA20-35 In the era's during which the A and then the F lenses were being sold new, I wasn't in the market. Stan
Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?
See http://kmp.BDimitrov.de/ Stan on 2/13/03 4:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pdmlers: what is the functional difference between the pz-1 and the updated pz-1p? i ask because i'm thinking of acquiring a pz-1 as a backup body to my glorious pz-1p any thoughts would be welcome be well rob
Re: Mike's kryptonite?
hey, it was done with a Pentax camera - it can't be all that bad! stan on 2/13/03 2:48 PM, Dan Scott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 11:52 AM, Al Shaikh wrote: It's not nice to make fun of people. -- Al Shaikh http://www.usefilm.com Projects for Photographers Hi Al, I'm poking fun at Mike's oft stated allergy to flower photos and cat photos ( and this image offers both in rare combination), not the photographer. Criticism or comment on the photo was not my intention. Dan Scott
Re: Snow Geese in Washington state
The overhead shots are very nice. This is hard to do! stan on 2/14/03 7:21 PM, Harald Rust at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are a few shots I took on a recent trip to the Skagit Valley in Washington state of flocks of overwintering snow geese. I didn't get exactly the shot I wanted, but it was a lot of fun anyway. I used my MZ-S with the 400 mm 5.6 Pentax AF. Here's the link: http://www.geocities.com/hn_phototravels/ Harald Rust __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: My Pentax DSLR
on 2/17/03 6:51 AM, Ken Archer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you think those bird pix were great, look at this web site from another Pentax user: http://www.markcassino.com/index.htm Welcome back Ken. The shouting has died down some, as you see . . . stan
Re: More Pentax news/rumors
on 2/21/03 5:01 PM, tom at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, synopsis please. 21mm/2.5 stan -- Thomas Van Veen Photography www.thomasvanveen.com 301-758-3085 -Original Message- From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 5:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: More Pentax news/rumors What are you putting up? http://www.bigdayphoto.com/limited.html Should we start over again? http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2= HITOFFu=/netahtml/PTO/search-adv.htmlr=90f=Gl=50d=PG01 s1='ASAHI+KOGAKU+KOGYO+KABUSHIKI+KAISHA'.AS.p=2OS=AN/ASAH I+KOGAKU+KOGYO+KABUSHIKI+KAISHARS=AN/ASAHI+KOGAKU+KOGYO+KABUSHIKI+K AISHA regards,
Re: Safe payment types. Was: Re:PayPal, C/C, and fees (WAS: RE:FS: MZ-S, KX, lots of lenses)
on 2/20/03 7:18 PM, Chris Brogden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Gary L. Murphy wrote: I know. That's why I said what I did. When I accepted PayPal, which I no longer do. :-) Out of curiosity, what payment types do you accept? ... PayPal, checks, money orders, cash, used cars, whatever. What sort of payment would be the safest? Cash. Delivered in person. there have been a few discussions on this list over the last few years about flying from East to West coasst to pay for and take delivery on an expensive lens. Why not? ... Any suggestions for foolproof payment types that I haven't thought of? chris Don't sell anything to someone you haven't had five secure transactions with already. Or, go buy some plaastic sheeting and duct tape. Or, just relax and accept the fact that lightning may strike, checks may be forged, and meteors may hit your house, and it just really isn't worth it to spend much time trying to prepare for any of these eventualities. Stan
Re: More Pentax news/rumors (Now taking a poll)
on 2/22/03 12:32 PM, Joseph Tainter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I would never buy a lens without a distance scale, even understanding that the distances on zoom lenses are only approximate. On occasion I try to figure hyperfocal distance with zooms, generally with pretty good success. Joe Once in a while I use the distance scale to confirm my own estimate of how far I am from the subject, say when using a flash, but I can't say that I would purposefully buy a camera, or not, just to get a distance scale. I really don't see much use for it. If I want to know what areas are going to be in focus, I look through the viewfinder and stop down the lens . . . Stan
Re: OT - Money transfer from England to US of A
on 2/22/03 1:32 PM, Kenneth Waller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any advice from list members on sending money from England to the US of A? Thanks in advance... Kenneth Waller PayPal works and costs the recipient .5% of the transfer amount more than a transfer within the U.S. Stan
Tradeoffs: old vs. new, FA77/1.8 vs. K85/1.8
The 77mm ltd that escaped us all got me to thinking. If I had seen it, would I have bought it? In order to do so, I would have at least considered selling my K85/1.8. I have a couple of other options as well, but this is the first that came to mind. Classic old lens vs. classic new lens. What would you do? would you sell the one to get the other? Stan
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on 2/26/03 3:50 PM, Kevin Waterson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce Dayton said Other than needing an interface for emergencies, I can't see any DSLR camera really needing a souped up transfer interface. I don't see the interface (USB 1, 2, Firewire) as being a big issue. Buy the card reader with interface you desire and be done with it. I do some work for various eisteddfods where parents like to be able to see and purchase photos on the spot. The greatest problem with digital here is that you cannot leave the performance area to take disks to the guys out in the foyer with the computer, so you need many cards (expensive) and a runner to be running them out to the computers for the families to see. Cards are not that expensive. If you are running them back and forth, 4 or 5 128mb would work, $25-30 each, no big deal. Even if you go for the high price ones at $45-50 each, that is only $250, the price of 10-15 rolls of processed film. stan
Re: *ist D photos
on 2/26/03 10:39 PM, Shaun Canning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken, you have scooped the pool. Well done. I want one already... Shaun KT Takeshita wrote: Comrades! http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg Can anyone explain the icon on the front for me? It shows an open rectangle sitting on two inward sloping wedges or ramps or something. The icon is next to the button just above the manual-auto focus slide switch. My brain does not process icons well. I still find it a 50-50 proposition selecting between O and I when I want to power on new computer equipment - I have no idea if O means On or empty or Off or what. stan (muttering in his beard about all this fancy newfangled stuff)
Re: *ist D photos
on 2/26/03 10:47 PM, wendy beard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:51 PM 26/02/2003 -0500, you wrote: I broke the news to the expenditure department this evening. It went surprisingly well. Too well, actually. I have one on order. William Robb I showed all the details to hubby. He grunted and said yes, very nice, dear. Guess that means I can have one ;-) Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com If it helps any, you can tell him that we all designated you as the first woman in Canada to would provide PDML the definitive female Canadian (well, sorta) Pentaxian hands on evaluation of this camera. If you don't put yourself on the waiting list immediately, you will let us all down. Stan
Re: strange button on *ist-D (IS?)
No, it is a button, not a connector. I was thinking it might control some momentary change in the viewfinder but my imagination won't take me any further. stan = on 2/26/03 11:38 PM, Steve Pearson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it shows a computer. Thus, it is probably a USB hook up, maybe??? --- Iren Henry Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I notice that there is a strange button at the left side of the front body of *ist-D, just above the MF-AFC-AFS switch. The marking is a rectangle supported by two triangles. So the guessing game start: is it the long awaited image stabilizing function? Regards, Henry Chu 27/2/2003
Re: *ist D
on 2/26/03 5:50 PM, William Kane at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey gang, I'm so glad that Pentax finally came out with the digital SLR! I think I'll be checking with my favorite online retailers daily awaiting the moment when I can finally pre-order the first one! A note on the other side of the coin though . . . why are they making a brand new camera which is capable of gigabit flash cards, and then only support USB 1.1? I know the argument that you can remove the flash card and put it in a reader that's USB 2.0, but COME ON! IL Bill, who can't wait to start using his 500/4.5 on the new *ist D P.S. Since the film sensor isn't standard 35mm (IIRC), what's the multiplication factor? 1.5
Re: Hands up and be counted
Ziggy wrote: So, how many of you merry people are going to get an *ist-D and if not why not? Pål Jensen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't buy it for the following reasons: - It is just a Nikon F80 with K-mount. The F80 has never tempted me the slightest. - It will be outdated in six months. - It will be too expensive as long as it cost more than $1000. - Low resolution images. - Too expensive: I have to update all my computer equipment and buy lots of paraphernalia to have any pleasure out of it. - At present no lenses that take advantage of the small image circle. When they come, I might be tempted by the follow up(s) of the *ist D. - I find it to be a deeply derivative and unimaginable camera. I think this is going to backfire; people who want a Nikon F80 or a D100 are probably going to buy the real thing. Pål I don't know yet if I will buy it. Factors to consider: Plus: a. I can give my Optio330RS to my wife rather than buy a new one for her b. I can use all of my lenses, those I have left after I do a sell-off to buy the new camera. c. I will double the resolution from my current (330RS) digital d. I can gain the ability to use digital in dimmer light. (Optio is limited to sunlight or flash - anything dim is horrible as the effective ISO is really limited to 200 max) Minus: a. The MZ-S has a wonderful shutter release + MLU design. the pictures of the *ist-D seem to show a different, flatter design. Anything different than the MZ-S will be a step in the wrong direction. The ergonomics must be right. b. If it does not have equivalent quality at ISO 400 and even 800 as at 200. c. If the shutter lag is long. d. If it is priced much more than my MZ-S Totally irrelevant: a. If it looks like a Nikpn. b. If it looks like a Canon. c. If it doesn't look like a Nikon. d. If it doesn't look like a Canon. e. If it costs more, less than, then same as a Nikon, Canon, or six-pack of beer. I wouldn't recognize a Nikon or Canon unless it had a nameplate I could read, and I really just don't care what they do or don't do. I would not buy this camera instead of or in addition to any other camera, I would buy it, or not, for its own qualities and what some other brand does is totally of no interest to me. I have a digital toy, it is adequate, I am very optimistic that I can upgrade to a better camera that also lets me use my K-mount lenses, but if the *ist-D fails, then I will continue with my MZ-S and my toy. Someday I will be able to buy a digital K-mount camera. Or not. Stan
Re: The lens that Pentax SHOULD have made...
on 2/27/03 11:41 AM, Mark Roberts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm probably not alone in my disappointment that Pentax's new 18-35 zoom is a cheesy J lens with an aperture of 4.0-5.6, but it makes it even worse to see something like this: 17-40mm zoom Constant f/4.0 aperture Canon mount :( http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/03022709canonef1740.asp As others have noted, the FA20-35/4.0 really is a nice lens. I suspect it will be my standard lens if/when I get the *ist-D. Stan
Re: Hands up and be counted
And I forgot to mention one other negative: if they sell it as a Kit and I have to buy a J lens I will be seriously turned off... stan Ziggy wrote: So, how many of you merry people are going to get an *ist-D and if not why not? Pål Jensen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't buy it for the following reasons: ... Pål Stan Halpin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know yet if I will buy it. Factors to consider: Plus: ... Minus: ... Totally irrelevant: ...
Re: All Is Right In The Pentax World!
on 3/02/03 11:00 AM, Pål Jensen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not what it is all about. It isn't about making something weirdo appealing to a few. It is about being distinctive or downright appealing. ... The idea that if you make something along the line of the competition the buyers won't buy the competitors product isn't correct. You may end up that your own customers buy the competitors product instead as that product seem original and after all, the competition may have been onto something as it is worth copying. Pål, I think a major difference in the way you and I approach the likely future success of Pentax products lies with our underlying assumptions. We are both right, to a limited extent, when we (seem to) assume that: Pål: Major assumption - consumers make choices based on an evaluation of alternative products. Corollary - to be successful a new product needs to be included in the multi-product comparison, needs to be distinguishable from other products, and needs to have some feature(s) better than the competition. Stan: Major assumption - consumers do not make choices, they make purchases. Some consumers under some circumstances will do comparisons, but mostly they will look at one item and, if it feels right they will purchase that item. Corollary - to be successful, a new product needs to be noticed and assessed. For most people, that means assessing the product for what it is, not for how well it compares to something else. This is why I think the looks of the *ist-D don't matter as a comparison with other brands. What does matter is to get the camera in the hands of people who are thinking about DSLR's. Moving people from Espios or Optios is likely the easy*ist. Moving total novices might also work if an emphasis is placed on simplicity of operation with a growth path for those who would grow. Moving people from other brands is futile in the short term. It will happen here and there, with people like those you assume, and in cases where a good salesperson argues that they should consider the Pentax. To get the camera I the hands of my consumers, it needs to look like a camera, it needs to meet their expectations for what this undifferentiated product called SLR or DSLR should look like. Few want to face the ridicule of being simultaneously an ignorant beginner AND looking like an ignorant beginner. Of the total population of consumers, there is a subset that matches my assumptions, and one that matches yours. There is at least one other subset, probably very large, who will do even less analytic thinking than yo and I assume, and they will follow the rule that, all other things more or less equal, it is best to do what everyone else is doing. Stan
Buying from Japan
Someone, possibly Shel, had put together a tutorial/guide to buying from photostores in Japan, including email and Fax addresses. I can't find where I stashed that note. Could anybody provide that to me offline please? Stan
Courier service
I'll be traveling to the UK at the end of the month. Arriving Gatwick early on the 29th, then via train to Portsmouth for a week. I will be taking only minimal photo gear with me this time, and so I would have some spots in the bag to stash a few miscellaneous lenses if the timing fits anyone's needs for a courier. I am not quite sure what we do about transfer once I arrive in England as I am headed immediately for the sunny south, but if there is a need, we can work it out. Stan
Help needed (longish)- Silver Limited on black body?
As some have noticed, I am in the process of revising my lens inventory. I have sold or offered for sale many of my lenses. First to go were the duplicates, then the very seldom used. Some more in the seldom used catagory still to sell. And a few in the often used category, like maybe the K85/1.8. Two reasons for going through this. Both are spelled c-a-s-h. I am not in desperate straits by any means, but some short-term cash flow issues have been and could be further alleviated by selling some of my inventory. Real soon now the cash-flow issues will be resolved, I will recover the money I have loaned from the camera account, and I will be ready to move on. I.e., to buy more. I will keep the MZ-S and, for now, my last LX. If the *ist D seems reasonable (feels good to hold, minimal shutter lag, fast write to memory, good firmware, etc.) I will get one, other wise I will wait a few months for the next generation. Meanwhile, there are two or three lenses that I think I need. The Limiteds: 77mm, 31mm and 43mm in that order. I need help. Specifically, I have a notion that the black version of these lenses would look far better on an LX, MZ-S, or *ist D than the silver version. A few days of roaming the internet has shown me that I can get the silver versions for a somewhat reasonable price, but if I were to buy the black version of the 77mm and 31mm, I would pay a total extra amount of $450. In other words, I can buy the black 77mm and 31mm, or for about the same money, I can buy the silver 77mm, 31mm and 43mm. Now, I may be able to find less expensive black versions - the chase is not yet over. But assume that I have exhausted my purchase options. Please someone send me a picture or two of a silver limited on a black body, preferably the MZ-S, so I can see how nice it looks and convince myself that I don't really need the black after all...
Re: Help needed (longish)- Silver Limited on black body?
on 3/06/03 11:05 PM, William Robb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a silver 77 on the LX. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/IMG_1342.jpg ... The picture quality makes up for any esthetic shortcomings that the lens may have. It really is a gem. William Robb Thanks Bill! Stan
Re: Help needed (longish)- Silver Limited on black body?
on 3/07/03 1:45 AM, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please someone send me a picture or two of a silver limited on a black body, preferably the MZ-S, so I can see how nice it looks and convince myself that I don't really need the black after all... Sorry Stan, but I'd hate to see you make a terrible mistake :-) http://members.ozemail.com.au/~geroc/02-P3032977m.JPG http://members.ozemail.com.au/~geroc/01-P3032974m.JPG Rob Studdert Lovely pictures Rob. Thank you, I guess. Stan
Re: OT: Question For You Professional photogs out there
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question to all of you: How do YOU handle your proofs when handing them back to clients? Do you sort and only hand the good ones back or do you give them the whole 9 yards so they know you're not holding anything back? I'm curious as this is sort of new per se to me. Gracias, Dave on 3/07/03 5:58 PM, Bruce Rubenstein at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never give an unedited set of pictures to anyone. Don't let clients get confused with too many choices. Certainly don't let them know that you take anything other than great shots. BR I agree with Bruce. Too many shots are confusing, you don't want to expose your bad shots. And besides, if you give them a whole tabletop of photos, it gives the impression that photos are cheap. And then they'll complain about the pricing... One quibble, going back to threads over the last few months reference one or two gallery shows: don't rely on yourself to be the sole editor - get someone else to help you pick the best 10-15 shots you give to the client from which they will select 6-8. My $.02 Stan
Re: Defining civilisation: contrary view
on 3/09/03 10:47 AM, Nick Zentena at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On March 9, 2003 10:08 am, William Robb wrote: Better wine, better cheese and better food than the English. Better then the English? Isn't that a universal given?-) Nick I have accumulated 10-12 weeks total time in the U.K. over the last 25 years. I can recall one bad meal (in an Indian restaurant in Cambridge.) From fish-and-chips take-out locations in London to high end restaurants in Bath or Chichester or Seven Oaks or London, all the rest have been good to great meals. By contrast, in one week in France a few years ago, the only palatable meal I had was a breakfast at a country inn. The dinner highlight was a McDonalds in Paris, and I don't even eat at McDonalds here! Stan
Lens, etc. FA on eBay
For your viewing pleasure, I have just listed some items on eBay. See: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsinclude=0userid =stanhsort=3rows=25since=-1rd=1 If you are not interested in the briefcase, purse, or boots, then take a look at the lenses etc. But it is a really nice briefcase - you could get quite a deal there! Stan
Re: Help needed (longish)- Silver Limited on black body?
Cameron - you may have missed it, but the closest we have come to that set of photos is from Rob Studdard: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~geroc/02-P3032977m.JPG http://members.ozemail.com.au/~geroc/01-P3032974m.JPG Black limited lenses on a lovely LX. Not exactly the same Black as a Black MZ-S, but close enough to give me a sense of the esthetics of an all black lens on a black camera vs. Wendy's all silver lenses on a black camera vs. the black and chrome MX with a silver Limited. So far, I prefer blackchrome body + silver to black body + black, which I in turn prefer to black body + silver. Since I don't want to chrome part of my MZ-S, and I don't think I will want to chrome my istD when I get that, so it leaves the black body + black lens as the most pleasing option for me. Stan on 3/09/03 8:38 PM, Cameron Hood at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do the black Limiteds look like on the MZ-S? Any pics? C. Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 16:22:27 -0500 From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apologies in advance for the quality of the digital pictures (don't have a digital pentax yet) http://www.beard-redfern.com/MZ-S_ltd/index.html 43 and 77mm on MZ-S
FA: FA85/1.4, A*200/4 macro, etc.....
Reminder that I have several items on eBay, with auctions closing in about 44 hours...bid early and bid often. Tomorrow and Sunday I'll be listing a 645 body, 3 different 135mm lenses, various bits and pieces for both M42 and K-mount. Stan
Re: Power Zoom 28-105 Vs the new 28-105 3.2-4.5
Jim - I just checked my stash of comments that need to be integrated into the Comments site next time I upgrade... still not many comments on this lens. One or two have been positive, but I don't believe any of those had prior experience with the power zoom version so they didn't really offer a comparison. Wendy and Joe W. both reported having one but didn't say too much about it... Stan on 3/15/03 7:48 AM, James Fellows at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I currently own the older power zoom model. I am thinking of replacing it with the newer 28-105. I am planning on replacing an older PZ model camera with either an ZX-L or the new *ist (if I can use K mount lenses with out issue) and was thinking it would be nice to have a faster more compact lens to go with it. Has anybody compared the two lenses? I have checked out Stan's lens site but not much is said about the new lens. Thanks, Jim
Re: Pentax needs USM and IS
on 3/17/03 6:57 PM, David Chang-Sang at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax's current flagship - MZ-S - is, even by those on this list, considered a failure. Pentax's last decent model was the MZ-5n IMHO. Failure? Huh? It is a very solid, easy to use, accurate metering, fast focusing, etc etc... I can't give you chapter and verse of al the other cameras on the market, but I can tell you that the MZ-S is a good camera. If Pentax paid spiff to salespeople it would be the camera of the decade. I do have one niggling issue with the MZ-S, it is harder to do fill flash than with the PZ-1p (unless you buy a new flash special built for the purpose, and I don't use flash often enough to have been tempted by this option yet.) Stan
Re: Let's Do It!! - So Vegas Then ?
Swing by Kansas City and we can take my van from here... Stan on 3/20/03 7:02 PM, Chris Brogden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Dave. We'll see how the timing works out. You bring the beer, and I'll bring the beer. Oh, and somebody should probably bring beer, too. :) chris On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, David Chang-Sang wrote: Why do I sense a Melvin and Howard thing going on here ;-) I'm willing to pick up Chris.. but I draw the line when Pat White asks me for a pick up in Victoria BC !! Smirkingly, Dave -Original Message- From: Chris Brogden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 7:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Let's Do It!! - So Vegas Then ? If you guys can swing past Winnipeg, I might be up for the trip, too. I've never been to Vegas, and this sounds as good a chance as any. Might be a bit cramped in the Civic, but maybe we could rent/borrow a bigger car/van and make a road trip out of it. chris On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, frank theriault wrote: Hey, Dave, I'll split the gas if ya wanna drive! Seriously. I've never been to Vegas. You're right, not as close as I'd like, but hell, it would be a long drive to Poland! vbg H. Vegas, Hoover Dam: anyone ever seen Lost in America by Albert Brooks?
Southern England - 29 March...
on 3/20/03 3:06 AM, Cotty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably centralized location that has inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting opportunities and courteous residents? ENGLAND! Well, in the interest of self sacrifice ( and because I will be there anyway) I will travel to Portsmouth and environs on the 29th to research the possibilities of a large Pentax gathering, be there for about a week. Most of my time is booked, between local friends and business matters, but I do intend to take a photo-stroll around the Harbour (?) area on Saturday 29th... The Stonehenge region might actually be an appropriate gathering place for this batch of heathens... Courier service still available, goods to me not later than Tuesday 25th as I have other stops on my way from here to Jolly Old. Contact my off-list if interested . . . Stan
Auction ending tomorrow
Just a reminder, I have several items up for auction ending about 4:00 PST tomorrow, Saturday 22 April. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsinclude=0userid =stanhsort=3rows=25since=-1rd=1 If that link doesn't work, the ebay ID to look for is stanh Includes SMC-A 135/2.8 currently at $52, M42 variable close-up ring (I know this as a helicoid extension in K mount and 645 lingo. Same thing, but less extension.) Currently at $24.50 SMC-M 135/3.5 currently at $60 645 body with choice of 120 or 220 insert, small or large eyecup, regular or grid screen, includes straps, body caps... Currently at $314 And some other stuff, currently at $10.50, $9.99, $2.25, and $18.50 Stan
