Lullaby for the Working Class tour dates RE: SF Bay Area RAB/Country Calendar

1999-01-14 Thread Hill, Christopher J

From the Saddle Creek web site:

All shows with Edith Frost (Drag City) except for *

Jan. 16- Omaha, NE @ The Cog Factory*
Jan. 20- Memphis, TN @ The Map Room
Jan. 21- New Orleans, LA @ The Mermaid Lounge
Jan. 22- Houston, TX @ Rudyards
Jan. 23- Austin, TX @ Emo's
Jan. 24- Denton, TX @ Rubber Gloves
Jan. 25- San Antonio, TX @ The Reverb Lounge
Jan. 27- Albuquerque, NM @ Launchpad
Jan. 28- Tempe, AZ @ Stinkweeds
Jan. 29- Tucson, AZ @ Club Congress w/ Vic Chestnutt
Jan. 30- TBA
Jan. 31-San Diego, CA @ The Casbah
Feb. 1- Los Angeles, CA @ Spaceland
Feb. 2- San Francisco, CA @ Bottom of the Hill w/ Varnaline
Feb. 3- Arcata, CA
Feb. 4- TBA
Feb. 5- Portland, OR @ EJ's w/ Varnaline
Feb. 6- Seattle, WA @ The Breakroom w/ Varnaline

Don't know if this has been posted already, as I
just subscribed.  I figure it can't hurt to plug a
favorite.  For those who haven't heard of Lullaby, 
Bar-None has a nice bio at 
http://www.bar-none.com/bios/lulla_light_bio2.html

Back to lurkville.

Chris




Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-14 Thread Ndubb


  And since I'm not at all cautious about leaving my email
 address around the planet, I don't understand why I don't get more, while
 Mark Wyatt is apparently on every porn mailer in the U.S. and Denmark. 

AOL being the difference. 

NW, who is against anything that makes my e-mail addy even more available to
spammers.



Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-14 Thread Bob Soron

On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, stuart wrote:

 And since I'm not at all cautious about leaving my email
 address around the planet, I don't understand why I don't get more, while
 Mark Wyatt is apparently on every porn mailer in the U.S. and Denmark.

Well, *someone* has to run them.

Bob



OT: Spam and e-mail addresses (was Re: Query:Archive this list?)

1999-01-14 Thread Lianne McNeil

At 06:35 AM 1/14/99 -0800, Stuart wrote:
You can get free email accounts all over the place now of course, which
is one solution to this.  And I can see where spam might be a problem, although to 
date, I've really never had much of problem.  Once in a 
while something comes through.  And since I'm not at all cautious 
about leaving my email address around the planet, I don't understand 
why I don't get more, while Mark Wyatt is apparently on every porn 
mailer in the U.S. and Denmark.

The key to receiving spam, it seems, is to post to newsgroups with an unmunged e-mail 
address.  I inadvertently did that a few weeks ago and 
now my spam quotient is up from once or twice a week to once or twice 
a day.

But as I understand it, the spam-bots have also been scanning web sites
for valid e-mail addresses... so I, too, don't want my e-mail address
available on a web site where anyone can get ahold of it.

Also, sometimes when you visit a web site they're using tools that
can find your address and other information about you, and later may 
send you unsolicited e-mail...

If you want to see what web sites are able to find out about you
when you visit, click here:  http://www.consumer.net/analyze/
See also http://www.junkbusters.com/cgi-bin/privacy
This anonymous web surfing site tells some of the same information:
http://www.anonymizer.com/cgi-bin/snoop.pl
And for another revealing look (about security)... 
http://www.coriolis.com/webpsychos/wpfiles.htm

Lianne



Re: NP: Lone Justice

1999-01-14 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 14-Jan-99 Re: NP: Lone
Justice by John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 She has an amazing voice.

Agreed.  On a sad tangent, I was offline for a while and don't know if
it was mentioned, but her older brother died over the holidays.  Brian
MacLean wrote some of Love's finest material, including Alone Again Or.
I don't know much about his solo material (he was apparently recording
Christian material at the time of his death), but Rhino (I think -- Jeff
W. or Bill L. can confirm) recently collected many of his Love-era demos
on one CD.

Carl Z. 



Re: Burn Down the Library

1999-01-14 Thread Geffry King

Like I posted to Jeff off-list...

In Tennessee they make Jack Daniels' whiskey in a dry county.
Maybe Garth thinks that the only way to make music is to 
create an environment where music is impossible to listen to..

-- 
 Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/
"Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries" 
  - K. Friedman, "Sold American"




Re: NP: Lone Justice

1999-01-14 Thread John Wendland

At 01:13 PM 1/14/99 -0500, Carl Z. wrote:
Agreed.  On a sad tangent, I was offline for a while and don't know if
it was mentioned, but her older brother died over the holidays.  Brian
MacLean wrote some of Love's finest material, including Alone Again Or.
I don't know much about his solo material (he was apparently recording
Christian material at the time of his death), but Rhino (I think -- Jeff
W. or Bill L. can confirm) recently collected many of his Love-era demos
on one CD.

He also wrote one of the best songs on the first Lone Justice album called
"Don't Toss Us Away." Patty Loveless also covered this on her "Honky Tonk
Angel" album.

-John



Re: Hank Williams

1999-01-14 Thread BARNARD

Steve, I'm sure there are many of them out there, but these two leap to
mind:

Tim Carroll, "I Think Hank Woulda Done It This Way"
2 versions:  1 on "Rig Rock Juke Box" (with Blue Chieftans),
the other on his Sound Asleep EP.

Mustang Lightning, 
"Hank's Last Ride" (possibly titled "Cadillac Cowboy"?).  There's
a fun demo version on their "Guitaro Loco" album, a studio version on some
earlier album I don't have.  Kind of garage-rocabilly-twang.

Best,
--junior



Re: Hank Williams

1999-01-14 Thread André Kopostynski

Howdy all,

I'm finally back on P2 after almost a year of absence. Work and school made
it just impossible to keep up with P2.  Now, I'm back in school full time to
wrap up my last semester.  Great to be back, folks.

My two cents on Steve's inquiry:

From Rig Rock Juke Box

"Do It for Hank "  World Famous Blue Jays
"I Think Hank Woulda Done it This Way" The Blue Chieftains

Later...

André Kopostynski
Dallas, Texas
E-mail Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone Home (214) 827-1297


-Original Message-
From: Steve Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 12:31 PM
Subject: Hank Williams


I'm throwing this one over the wall.  If you respond could you send it to
me
directly?  I'm looking for songs about Hank Williams.  Not Hank songs...but
one's about him.  Right off the top of my head I can think of:

Alcohol and Pills - Fred Eaglesmith
Rollin' and Ramblin' (The Death of Hank Williams) - Robin and Linda
Williams
I Wanna Ride in the Car that Hank Died In - Austin Lounge Lizards
29 - Slaid Cleaves
Country Beats the Hell Outta Me - Jerry Dale McFadden

Any others?
Steve
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Re: NP: Lone Justice

1999-01-14 Thread jon_erik

Carl Z. writes:

Agreed.  On a sad tangent, I was offline for a while and don't know 
if it was mentioned, but her older brother died over the holidays.  
Brian MacLean wrote some of Love's finest material, including 
Alone Again Or.
I don't know much about his solo material (he was apparently 
recording Christian material at the time of his death), but Rhino 
(I think --Jeff W. or Bill L. can confirm) recently collected many of 
his Love-era demos on one CD.

 Sundazed, actually.  Haven't picked it up myself, though I've come
close a couple of times.  Tragic indeed.  In spite of his low profile, he
was a real talented guy and still relatively young at 52.  My
understanding is that he was working on writing Christian orchestral
material at the time of his death.
--Jon Johnson
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Wollaston, Massachusetts



Re: Hank Williams

1999-01-14 Thread Friskics

montgomery in the rain -- steve young
hank and lefty raised my country soul -- stoney edwards



Re: Steve Earle/old vinyl/Huddie Ledbetter

1999-01-14 Thread John Magee

Also--and on a completely unrelated note--can someone offer a reason why
record companies used to make double LP's with Side 1 backed with Side 4?
Call me crazy, but wouldn't it make more sense to have Side 2 on the flip
since the record is already right there on the friggin turntable?


I believe this had to do with the old "record changer" style turntables - you
stacked records at the top of the spindle and the next one dropped on the stack
as the last one finished . . . with the 1-4/2-3 arrangement, you could stack
your 2 x LP set and play 1  2, then flip it  play 3  4.

I may be wrong about this, but it's a decent explanation.

John Magee



Re: Hank Williams songs

1999-01-14 Thread Chad S. Cosper



Just a couple more that I haven't seen listed yet:

"The Ghost of Hank Williams"--David Allen Coe
"The Night Hank Williams Came to Town"--Johnny Cash


Chad Cosper
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Steve Earle/old vinyl/Huddie Ledbetter

1999-01-14 Thread Shane S. Rhyne

Howdy,

Dern. I thought I'd beat Weisberger to the punch for once... I'm getting
slow in my "old" age... g

Take care,

Shane Rhyne
Knoxville, TN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Hank Williams

1999-01-14 Thread John Patterson

Steve Gardner wrote:
 
  I'm looking for songs about Hank Williams.  Not Hank songs...but
 ones about him.  

"Tramp on Your Street" -- Shaver



Re: Hey, y'all (De-lurking post)

1999-01-14 Thread Barry Mazor

Well welcome.  You should be completely at home.  Even without
pretentiousness aside.

Barry M.




 Howdy, friends.I'm new to the group, having come to P2 via the
AOL ND folder...and having come to roots music via an appreciation for the
Southern idiom in American popular music. Potential pretentiousness aside,
I  love the music..Tasq





Bingo - Hom

1999-01-14 Thread Lowell Kaufman


This record has become a fave recent acquisition and just curious if 
anyone else thinks highly of this record.  It consists of members of 
Golden Delicious and Fernando - good bands from Portland.

If a record can be defined as "aternative" country - this qualifies. It's 
got some country like songs, but done i a different style - some of it 
Indian - raga style.  I think fans of the Flaming Lips, Nirvana, and 
Wilco would find this recor dappealing. There's some good distortion ala 
Nirvana, great straight songwriting in the rock vein of Wilco, and sound 
experimenting the way the Lips perform. But throughoput there's  this 
asian sitar/tabla like drumming going on - including a real rock and roll 
raga.

Best of all, to me, is the onderful mood of the whole record.  This 
record has wonderful atmosphere - I throw out more band names as a 
comparison - Lambchop or Lullaby for the Workign Class. Yeah, alot of styles.

Anyway, I'm always turned on by bands that think outside the box, and 
these are few and far between - but this one does it.

I guess there's Holy Modal influences here since they cover a Michael 
Hurley song (I think the main guy - Kevin Richey has a connection with 
them). Pete Krebs is on here too!

ldk sez check 'em out!

keep dancing,
-ldk



Jimmy Martin

1999-01-14 Thread Kelly Hogan

Hey you-all --

Anybody know how I can get in touch with Jimmy Martin?

I'm chompin' at the bit to bring him to Chicago to play.

Thanks --

Hogan

np: Glen Campbell "Galveston"



Kevin Gordon - _Carnival Time_

1999-01-14 Thread James Matthews

In 1993 Kevin Gordon  Bo Ramsey made a brief tour of New Zealand.  While
here Gordon struck a deal with local label Real Groovy Records and a 14
track album _Carnival Time_ licensed from Shed Records was subsequently
released.  I don't know if this ever saw the light of day in the States
but if so those looking for more Kevin Gordon output might want to track
it down.  It's every bit as strong as his current _Cadillac Jack's #1 Son_
if a little rougher around the edges.  It also features the excellent slide
guitar playing of Bo Ramsey on several tracks.

Track listing:

lucy  andy drive to arkansas/hillbilly queen/scared of love/wild one/
thing about you/king of kings/carnival time/black dress/hellcat/quiet child/
heart of mine/get across/six feet under/lonesome track (All songs written
by Kevin Gordon)

Drop me a line for further details.

np: _Fever: The Best Of Little Willie John_

cheers,

- james matthews  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   "name me a song that everybody knows, i'll bet you it
   belongs to acuff/rose"



Re: Hank Williams

1999-01-14 Thread John Patterson

Steve Gardner wrote:
 
 I'm looking for songs about Hank Williams.  Not Hank songs...but
 one's about him.  Right off the top of my head I can think of:


Thanks Hank -- Mike Cross 

Hank Williams Will Live Forever -- Johnny  Jack 
  (Country Duets, Arhoolie/Old Timey OT126)



Re: Hank Williams

1999-01-14 Thread Bob Soron

On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, John Wendland wrote:

 I know Gary Wilson swears by Stephen Yerkey's "Dead Into West Virginia" and
 Roy Kasten swears by Steve Young's "Montgomery In The Rain" as being great
 songs about Hank Williams. There's also "From Hank To Hendrix" by Neil
 Young. Also Guy Clark's "Hank Williams Said It Best" on his Dublin Blues
 album.

I dunno Yerkey, but I'll echo John's echo of Roy's comments about
"Montgomery in the Rain." Really great song and Young's version has some
amazing harmony from Tracy Nelson.

There's also "Thank You Hank" by Marshall Chapman.

Bob



Re: Hank Williams

1999-01-14 Thread NancyApple

Hank Williams, You Wrote My Life--Moe Bandy
Paul Craft wrote this, be sure to check out his version, on Paul's Brother
Jukebox CD



Re: Hank Williams

1999-01-14 Thread sslone

Has anybody mentioned "Has Anybody Here Seen Hank?" by the Waterboys 
(from 1988's "Fisherman's Blues).

--Slonedog



Re: The boys are back in town....

1999-01-14 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 13-Jan-99 The boys are back
in town by JP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 The new year finds us finishing up the tracks for our new CD, which we
hope to have out in February...  we will keep you posted!

We never doubted that you'd keep us posted.

Carl Z.
iced in 



RE: Steve Earle/old vinyl/Huddie Ledbetter

1999-01-14 Thread Matt Benz





 Saw an Earle CD in the store the other day I ain't ever seen before.
 It was
 called "Shut Up and Die Like an Aviator," and seemed to be a live
 recording,
 but I don't think the cover was very definitive about that. 
[Matt Benz]  
Live, heroin era, and not real great. Voice is shot...



Re: Hank Williams

1999-01-14 Thread Thomas W. Mohr

"Tower of Song", Leonard Cohen:

I said to Hank Williams: how lonely does it get?
 Hank Williams hasn't answered yet
 But I hear him coughing all night long
 A hundred floors above me
 In the Tower of Song

Tom   1-14   1546cst




Re: Hank Williams

1999-01-14 Thread RMould5417


 Steve Gardner wrote:
  
   I'm looking for songs about Hank Williams.  Not Hank songs...but
  ones about him.  
  


Loco Gringo's Lament - Ray Wylie Hubbard




Why I love Austin

1999-01-14 Thread JP Riedie

reason #235:

Christina Marrs singing "Weary Blues from Waiting" with Dale Watson and his
Lone Stars at Ego's Tuesday

reason #236:

The Hot Club of Cowtown sitting in with The Spankers last night at the
Electric Lounge

reason #237: tonight - Beaver at the Continental

reason #238: it's 62 degrees outside and sunny



NP: Kelly Willis, "What I Deserve"




Re: Steve Earle/old vinyl/Huddie Ledbetter

1999-01-14 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 14-Jan-99 RE: Steve Earle/old
vinyl/H.. by Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  called "Shut Up and Die Like an Aviator," and seemed to be a live
  recording,
  but I don't think the cover was very definitive about that. 
 [Matt Benz]  
 Live, heroin era, and not real great. Voice is shot...

What Matt said.  This record fulfilled his contract with MCA around 1991
and has been out of print for a few years.

Carl Z. 



Copper Country

1999-01-14 Thread Jeff Weiss

Hey Michiganites,

Have you heard of any of these artists who appear on a CD called Copper
Country?

Tom Katalin
Faye LeBeau
Tab Maki
Dick Storm
Slick Nickel
Glen Johnson
Don Arnson
Jay Oja
Midlife Crisis
Jon Perreault  The Valley Gentlemen
Last Call
Tina Mattson
Jennifer Parent
Clint Maki

If has a 1996 copyright.

Stay warm

Jeff


Miles of Music mail order
http://www.milesofmusic.com
FREE printed Catalog: (818) 883-9975 fax: (818) 992-8302, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Alt-Country, rockabilly, bluegrass, folk, power pop and tons more.




RE: Burn Down the Library

1999-01-14 Thread Jeff Wall

At 10:34 AM 1/14/99 -0500, you wrote:
 Waiting for the librarians on the list to weigh in on this one,

I think they've already shelved it in the Jokes And Hoaxes section.

As they damn well should. I can't believe y'all bought that piece. Hook,
Line, and Sinker. Maybe I should be writing for The Onion.

That piece was a Hoax. I made it up. Every little bit of it.

Sorry if I raised anyone's blood pressure. God, you people are gullible.

Jeff Wall   
 http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine
727 Alder Circle - Va Beach, Va - 23462 -(757) 467-3764



Re: old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-14 Thread Jeff Weiss

At 02:18 PM 1/14/99 -0500, you wrote:
Howdy,

Lance asks: Also--and on a completely unrelated note--can someone offer a
reason why record companies used to make double LP's with Side 1 backed with
Side 4?
Call me crazy, but wouldn't it make more sense to have Side 2 on the flip
since the record is already right there on the friggin turntable?

That way, when you put the antique vinyl discs on your hi-fi system, you can
stack the discs in the changer so that you can listen to the sides in
numerical order and only have to flip the discs once.

Some sort of demarcation has just taken place. Those old enough to remember
the stacking turntables and those who don't and, accordingly, are young 'uns. 

Stacking turntable spindle thingees those were the days

Jeff


Miles of Music mail order
http://www.milesofmusic.com
FREE printed Catalog: (818) 883-9975 fax: (818) 992-8302, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Alt-Country, rockabilly, bluegrass, folk, power pop and tons more.




Re: The Streets of Philly

1999-01-14 Thread Jeff Weiss

At 02:32 PM 1/14/99 -0500, you wrote:
I heard a cut from an album called "No Electric Guitars" (I think), with the
lead singer of Marah doing a cover of Springsteen's Streets of Philadelphia.
Somebody from the Rolling Hayseeds was on it too. Each member of the group
does 2 covers and an original, That is all I know about it. Does anybody
know anything about the who, what where and when of this?

Thom Wodock
WDVR

Haven't seen it publicized here in Phila., but would love to hear what you
find out...Kevin from the Hayseeds is on P2, or at least has been in the
past, I believe.


15 track disc on Record Cellar Production label. All the participants do
two orginals and a cover. Featured are Dave Bielanko (Marah), Rich Kaufmann
(Rolling Hayseeds), Frank brown (Buzz Zeemer), Mike Brewer (The Low Road)
and Gerry McGoldrick (Emily Valentine).

Jeff


Miles of Music mail order
http://www.milesofmusic.com
FREE printed Catalog: (818) 883-9975 fax: (818) 992-8302, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Alt-Country, rockabilly, bluegrass, folk, power pop and tons more.




Re: old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-14 Thread BARNARD

Jeff says :
 Some sort of demarcation has just taken place. Those old enough to remember
 the stacking turntables and those who don't and, accordingly, are young 'uns. 
 
 Stacking turntable spindle thingees those were the days


Yeah, does make ya feel old g.  All sorts of multi-disc albums were
sided that way--operas, for instance, and other classical sets.

--junior



Re: old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-14 Thread Derek

Yeah, does make ya feel old g.  All sorts of multi-disc albums were
sided that way--operas, for instance, and other classical sets.

--junior

Hey man, my KISS Alive II double set wasn't marked that way... what gives?

Derek
http://www.buckdiaz.com



Re: The boys are back in town....

1999-01-14 Thread Masonsod

In a message dated 1/14/99 9:44:48 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 13-Jan-99 The boys are back
 in town by JP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  The new year finds us finishing up the tracks for our new CD, which we
 hope to have out in February...  we will keep you posted!
 
 We never doubted that you'd keep us posted.
 
 Carl Z.
 iced in 
  

BOY! Did we NEVER doubt that you'd keep us posted.

Mitch Matthews (toddy'ed up and feelin' the rum)
Gravel Train/Sunken Road

Hey Paul Ameritwang, wanna do a road trip to Atlanta (I'll dress in my Union
blues, you bring the matches).



Re: Hank Williams

1999-01-14 Thread Pflash40

 the blasters "long white cadillac" along with katy moffatt's "hank and
audrey" and waylon jennings "are you sure hank done it this way."hank and
audrey" is a really nice song with a vocal by tom russell.those
immediately come to mind but i am sure there are many, many more.mark
graham



Re: Hank Williams

1999-01-14 Thread Pflash40

one more came to mindbilly joe shaver's "tramp on your street" off the
album so namedgreat song about seeing hank as a kid



Kelly Willis - Europe

1999-01-14 Thread Louise Kyme

Acoording to www.kelly.willis.com, Kelly is planning on coming to Europe
in February. Does anyone know anything about this? Is she touring or
just on holiday?

Thanks, Louise
--

If you like rocking country music, check out the Okeh Wranglers web site
at:

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/bluesmoke




Playlist PBS-FM, Melbourne, Australia, Jan 14 1998

1999-01-14 Thread Sophie Best

Steve Earle – Someday (Guitar Town)
Bap Kennedy – Angel is the Devil (Domestic Blues)
Greg Trooper – These Sunday Nights (Popular Demons)
Colin Leyden – Interstate (For the Wicked)

Kevin Gordon – Dissatisfied (Cadillac Jack’s # 1 Son)
Lucinda Williams – Still I Long for your Kiss (live at Philadelphia 98)
Cry Cry Cry – Speaking with the Angel (Cry Cry Cry)
Ron Sexsmith – Summer Blowin’ Town (Ron Sexsmith)

Neko Case – Jettison (The Virginian)
The Barkers – Baytown (Edges From the Postcard 2)
Okeh Wranglers – The Calm Before the Storm (Lonesome Vistas)
Tim Easton – Hey Rosine (Special 20)
Haynes Boys – Goody Boy (Guardian Angel)

Bottle Rockets – Skip’s Song (leftovers)
Clodhopper – 1000 days of Shame (Red’s Recovery Room)
The Gourds – Dying of the Pines (Dem’s Good Beeble)
Bonnie Prince Billy (Will Oldham) – Another Day Full of Dread (I See a
Darkness)
Smog – Teenage Spaceship (Knock Knock)

Dolly Varden – The Wheels Have Left the Road (The Thrill of Gravity)
Last Train Home – St Elmo’s Blues (Last Train Home)
Uncle Tupelo – Moonshiner (March 16-20, 1992)
Slobberbone – Little Drunk Fists (Barrel Chested)

Greg Garing – Dream Too Real To Hold (Alone)
R.B. Morris – Bottom of the Big Black Hull (Take That Ride)
Two Dollar Pistols – A World So Full Of Love (On Down the Track)
Paul Westerberg – that song towards the end about the actor...

cheers,

Sophie





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Re: old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-14 Thread Ndubb


 Yeah, Derek, that makes sense--because towards the end of the LP people
 pretty much gave up selling  spindled record changers...the word was out
 that you probably got a better (watch for antique term here) record player
 for the buck with a single-disc turntable as part of your swell new stereo
 component system.  So they started putting out multi-record sets ordered
 for flipping..one disc at a time. 

I seem to remember the switch from changers to single-LP turntables having to
do with preservation, mostly, eliminating unnecessary wear and tear that came
with an album making that four or five inch fall one too many times. At least
that was a main reason for my such investment. Got me one of them Technics
turntables with the belt motor and the stony strobe thing. And then I got me
the record cleaner brush thing with the liquid drops and special plastic
sleeves for that albums and different special plastic sleeves for the album
jacket. 

I think I gave all that up when I went to college and started dating. Being a
dork with a record cleaner isn't necessarily the best way to get laid. I
preferred twelvers of Coors Light, the bong and whatever she wanted to listen
to. But I digress. 

What were we talking about again?

Neal Weiss
np - Chuck E. Weiss - Extremely Cool



Re: Jimmy Martin

1999-01-14 Thread JKellySC1

In a message dated 1/14/99 2:53:09 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anybody know how I can get in touch with Jimmy Martin?
 
 I'm chompin' at the bit to bring him to Chicago to play.
  

If anyone can charm the man into acting right, Hogan can.

Good luck.

slim



Re: Assorted Stuff

1999-01-14 Thread Tracy A.Loland

On Sat, 09 January 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

 Music content:  Did anyone catch Vic Chesnutt and Lambchop on Conan last
 night?  I just finished reading Atlanta's "Stomp and Stammer" where Vic made
 cover boy of the year.  It's pretty hilareous.  I haven't checked the web site
 but it's www.stompandstammer.com
 

I thought he was just adorable on Conan (that's not a word I ever really expected to  
use to describe Vic Chesnutt), though I couldn't quite figure out what he was doing 
with his guitar up to his face at the end.  It didn't seem to be producing any sound, 
and the cameras didn't seem to want to show too much of whatever he was doing.  

Thanks for the "Stomp and Stammer" info.  It is quite a hoot, especially his 
explanation of why he was kicked off of Capitol, and his ongoing Jewel tirade.  I, for 
one, would pay to see Vic hit Jewel "in the fucking face" with his duct-taped hand.  
What an image.

Tracy

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Re: Hank Williams

1999-01-14 Thread Friskics

anyone mentioned jon langord's "nashville radio/death of country music"?  the
first half of the track sustains a hank narrative for at least four stanzas.
fwiw, bill f-w



Re: banjo envy...

1999-01-14 Thread Alan Murray


From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 In a message dated 1/12/99 4:30:22 PM Central Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Garth looked like someone's dad
   who drove all the kids from the neighborhood and had to sit through the
   show. (Although he did win an award for "Seven," and talked about nothing
   but sales #'s in his acceptance speech.)
 
   Did he really?  I'd be curious to hear what he said.  Granted, we've
 fought the Garth Wars long and hard enough around here that I don't want to
 start 'em again, but this is the one aspect of his personality that I find
 just bizarre, this seemingly overwhelming obsession to not only break the
 Beatles and Elvis' sales records but to talk about it all the time as well.
 It can't mean anything more to all the fans who love him (and it sure doesn't
 impress those who don't g).  So like...what's the point?  How much more
 affirmation does he need?  Weirdness... 

He does have a marketing degree - does he not?

Once a sales weasel, always a sales weasel I guess.


Alan Murray
Information Technology Services
University of Canterbury
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-14 Thread Shane S. Rhyne

Howdy,

Jeff Weiss, he say: Some sort of demarcation has just taken place. Those
old enough to remember the stacking turntables and those who don't and,
accordingly, are young 'uns. Stacking turntable spindle thingees those
were the days.

I loved the stacking turntable spindle thingees. As a young 'un, I'd put on
a stack of as many of my momma's Elvis records as the spindle thingee could
hold without getting too wobbly and I'd enjoy the rest of the day listening
to the King and working on my Elvis impersonation skills.

However, I really didn't care for those yellow insert thingees for 45s. You
never could seem to find one when you needed one...usually my sister was
turning them into strange future fashion headwear for Barbie dolls.

Take care,

Shane Rhyne
Knoxville, TN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

NP: Hillbilly Idol, Town and Country




digest subscription - help

1999-01-14 Thread Eugene Unger


I can't seem to subscribe to the digest version on the u
washington server...Can someone
forward me the digest subscription instructions???

thanks-

P.S.  I'm also looking for the a couple of Richard Buckner
setlists.  the 'Wild Bitter Tales'
tape and his WFMU broadcast from a couple of yrs ago.   maybe
someone has it on their
personal web site?   It's not on the unofficial rb site.





Re: Musical product vs. music (was: the Garthman, and now is long)

1999-01-14 Thread Kelly Kessler



yeah, but Garth is so icky...

Elena


With this, Elena has said it all, and no more needs to be said on the
subject.

Kelly



Re: Archives:The Plan

1999-01-14 Thread Danlee2

In a message dated 1/14/99 3:07:12 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 As an added doohickey, I'll probably
  put a program called wpoison on the site that actually screws with the
  spambots. It's a recursive fake email and link creator that makes the bots
  gather non-existent email addresses and URLs, recursively making the bots
  gather non-existent email addresses recursively (a little
  self-referential humor...)

   Dammit, I just love it when people fight fire with fire.  See if that
"wpoison" thing can get their license plate numbers and I'll even egg their
cars.

   For those interested. I'll be using MHonarc
  (http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.html) and procmail (info at
  http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~reriksso/procmail/) to set it up. It'll be
  sitting on a FreeBSD box running the Apache webserver. 

   I have no idea what any of that means Jamie, but it all sounds good to me.
I approve.  Make sure you re-flux the transducers too.

expert aol "reply" button-clicker,
Dan



Re: ND magazine announces cutest band awards

1999-01-14 Thread LindaRay64

In a message dated 1/14/99 10:36:14 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 issue #15:  Ray Picks: Whiskeytown 

Now you know I'd pick the Backsliders -- any incarnation.  Roscoe just about
makes up for Brad  Danny!

Linda



Re: Kevin Gordon - _Carnival Time_

1999-01-14 Thread Dallas Clemmons

The CD was indeed available here in the States, but I'm sure not very widely.
At the time of its release, Kevin was operating out of Iowa City--he had been a
student in the wrtier's workshop there--hence the Bo Ramsey connection. Kevin
played lots and lots of gigs with Bo and still, I believe, makes it up to Iowa
City for a show or two each year, for those of you in the Midwest. At any rate,
Iowa City record shops used to have lots of copies of CARNIVAL TIME in stock. I
haven't lived there for over a year and so I can't say if any are still around.
However, if you want to do some detective work you could look up phone numbers
for either Real Records, BJ's Compact Discs, and/or Apollo CDs, and give 'em a
call to find out. The folks at Real are likely to be the most knowledgable,
although BJ's once had an outstanding alt-country selection and Apollo was
owned and operated by the drummer for IC's great bar band, High and Lonesome.
So you would have a chance of tracking down a copy by calling any of those
guys. I don't have the numbers but the area code is 319.

Dallas


James Matthews wrote:

 In 1993 Kevin Gordon  Bo Ramsey made a brief tour of New Zealand.  While
 here Gordon struck a deal with local label Real Groovy Records and a 14
 track album _Carnival Time_ licensed from Shed Records was subsequently
 released.  I don't know if this ever saw the light of day in the States
 but if so those looking for more Kevin Gordon output might want to track
 it down.  It's every bit as strong as his current _Cadillac Jack's #1 Son_
 if a little rougher around the edges.  It also features the excellent slide
 guitar playing of Bo Ramsey on several tracks.

 Track listing:

 lucy  andy drive to arkansas/hillbilly queen/scared of love/wild one/
 thing about you/king of kings/carnival time/black dress/hellcat/quiet child/
 heart of mine/get across/six feet under/lonesome track (All songs written
 by Kevin Gordon)

 Drop me a line for further details.

 np: _Fever: The Best Of Little Willie John_

 cheers,

 - james matthews  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

"name me a song that everybody knows, i'll bet you it
belongs to acuff/rose"





Re: Hank Williams songs

1999-01-14 Thread Jeff Wall

Everbody wants to be Hank Williams (but nobody wants to die) - Larry Boone
The Conversation Hank Jr  Waylon - (video filmed at the Station Inn with
the old stage!!)


Jeff Wall   
 http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine
727 Alder Circle - Va Beach, Va - 23462 -(757) 467-3764



Re: AC/DC meets Patsy Cline? Yeee-haw

1999-01-14 Thread Shane S. Rhyne




Howdy,

Tucker talks about an author I've always meant to investigate 
further. I seem to enjoy movies and television shows based on Elmore Leonard's 
writings (Maximum Bob on ABC was brilliant fun and I hope it comes back 
someday.) Strangely enough, I haven't read any of Leonard's actual writings, 
though.

I'll have to rectify that.

But, really the point of this was to address Tucker's 
comments: As the newest guest in your 
house of love, I'm little too talkative, ain't I?

This made me giggle. I think he has posted three times today. 
By normal P2 standards, I don't think that would make the definition of 
talkative. or even get him much beyond lurker status. By P2-Fluff 
standards, he's damn near mute.

Take care,

Shane Rhyne
Knoxville, TN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

NP: Lone Justice, This World Is Not My 
Home


Lone Justice

1999-01-14 Thread Phil Connor

  ALBUM SPOTLIGHT
  JOHN SOEDER

* 01/11/99
  The Plain Dealer  Cleveland, OH
(Copyright (c) The Plain Dealer 1999)
   *Artist: Lone Justice
Title: "This World Is Not My Home"
Label: Geffen
   *Comments: If there were any justice, Lone Justice would have
been
 huge. Long before today's bumper crop of alt-country acts such as
 Wilco and Son Volt came along, this critically slobbered-over but
 commercially inconsequential band from Los Angeles worked the middle
 ground between country and post-punk rock 'n' roll, to wonderful
 effect.
"This World Is Not My Home" provides a long-overdue overview, but
 it hardly qualifies as a greatest-hits package. Feisty singer-
 guitarist Maria McKee and her musical sidekicks notched only a couple
 of minor hits during their short time together. "Shelter," the
 sublime title track of the group's 1986 album, should ring a bell.
 You might also remember the rollicking "I Found Love" and "Ways to Be
 Wicked," a somebody-done-somebody-wrong song co-written by Tom Petty.
Well worth a listen are some of the more obscure tunes and
 previously unreleased material here, including "Rattlesnake Mama" and
 "Drugstore Cowboy," a twangy outtake from a 1983 demo. You can skip
 the live cover of the Velvet Underground's "Sweet Jane," which turns
 into a shouting match between McKee and breathy guest star Bono of
 U2. Not to be missed, though, is "Go Away Little Boy," penned by Bob
 Dylan and originally released as a B-side in the United Kingdom.
 Dylan sits in on the song, as does Rolling Stones guitarist Ron Wood.
   *Thanks for the memories, Lone Justice. Now, would a reunion tour
 be asking too much?








For a Rocker

1999-01-14 Thread Phil Connor

  
  Rocker left far too soon
  CURTIS ROSS
  
* 01/13/99
  The Tampa Tribune
  
  (Copyright 1999)
He looked like a mid-'60s rock star with his blond, bowl haircut
 and permanent pout, as if the Rolling Stones' Brian Jones had been a
 Beach Boy.
But Bryan MacLean's life didn't follow any of the standard rock
 star trajectories. And when he died Christmas Day of an apparent
 heart attack at the age of 52, he left behind a handful of beautiful
 tunes and a great deal of unfulfilled potential.
MacLean grew up privileged in the Hollywood Hills, thrilling to
 Broadway show tunes. As a teenager, he turned to folk and became a
 roadie for the Byrds. He then teamed up with Arthur Lee in the
 brilliant but doomed band Love.
"If Arthur Lee was John Lennon, Bryan MacLean was Paul McCartney,"
 Kevin Delaney writes via e-mail. Delaney is compiling an oral
 history of Love, "Between Clark and Hilldale."
The two couldn't have been less alike. Lee was black, grew up in
 one of L.A.'s tougher neighborhoods and played gritty RB. MacLean's
 first composition was the amazingly ornate "Orange Skies," one of
 only four of his songs Love recorded.
"Arthur had the dominant personality, so his songs got done,"
 MacLean told Mojo writer Barney Hoskins in 1996. "I was writing
 prolifically all through those years, but when we went into the
 studio, he'd say no to every song."
Lee certainly learned a lot from MacLean. By 1967's "Forever
 Changes," Love had fused psychedelic and easy-listening music into
 one of rock's few truly unique sounds. MacLean quit the next year.
Two solo projects were aborted and MacLean, after embracing
 Christianity in 1970, left the music scene. He continued writing,
 placing one of his songs, "Don't Toss Us Away," on the 1985 eponymous
   * debut album of Lone Justice, led by his half-sister Maria McKee.
 Patty Loveless later scored a country hit with the song.
MacLean's prolificacy was revealed on 1997's "Ifyoubelievein," a
 collection of forgotten demo recordings discovered by his mother.

 Recorded between 1966 and 1982, the tunes are full of warmth and
 depth, carried by MacLean's fluid guitar playing and crystalline
 voice.
MacLean had just completed an album of Christian music before his
 death, Delaney says, but its release status is uncertain.
MacLean had much to be bitter about - he reportedly saw few
 royalties from Love's albums. But he chose to focus on moving
 forward.
"The best is yet to come," Delaney quotes him as saying.
"He said something to me one time that I think really sums up his
 whole approach to life," Delaney writes. " "Give,' he said. "Just
 give. It makes everything so much simpler.' "
  






Serious Criticism

1999-01-14 Thread Phil Connor

  DEAN OF ROCK CRITICS TACKLES HIS SUBJECT FROM CULTURAL STANDPOINT
  CLEA SIMONTHE BOSTON GLOBE
  
* 01/13/99
REVIEW COLUMN
  (Copyright 1999)
Forget the Hall of Fame. The proof that rock 'n' roll has come of
 age is that serious criticism has arisen around it, schools of
 thought and discussion that weigh its popular appeal against its
 artistic merit, its influences, and its international range.
"It's got a beat, and you can dance to it," the famous Dick Clark
 line, may still represent the primary criterion in some forums, but
 in many others, rock as art has become the rule of the day.
 Therefore, if anyone is looking for "Grown Up All Wrong," Robert
 Christgau's compendium of critical essays, to be a fun, light read -
 a pop single of a book - that reader should turn the page.
Hailed by many as the dean of American rock criticism, Christgau,
 senior music critic of The Village Voice, is arguably the person most
 responsible for making such criticism a serious discipline. And
 after 27 years at that paper, the operative word is "arguably,"
 because for all his brilliance, Christgau has always approached the
 music with as much brain as heart, as much outrage as fandom, and as
 much downright orneriness as love.
Unlike Greil Marcus, a writer who has long been more poet than
 critic, Christgau lays out clear tracks for his cerebral, history-
 laden trains of thought; unlike the late Lester Bangs and his gonzo
 descendants, he makes it seem that the gray matter between the ears
 counts for as much as the ears themselves.
It is as a cultural critic, therefore, rather than as a "rock
 writer," that Christgau tackles popular music. Although "Grown Up
 All Wrong" is a series of essays (culled from throughout his career)
 ostensibly about artists from George Gershwin through KRS-One, it is
 also about our times. Eschewing the standard line that rock was born
   * from a union of blues and country music, Christgau looks to more
 mainstream traditions of popular music, and reflects on Nat King Cole
 and blackface vaudevillian Emmett Miller to find the reasons for our

 contemporary tastes. Poking behind the myths (that Janis Joplin's
 recordings never matched her live shows, or even the long-discounted
 line that the Rolling Stones were working class), he seeks to
 decipher why we love this music - or why we ought to.
Discussing contemporary acts, he sets out to explain context as
 much as sound. And while that can get a tad too philosophical (when
 he chews over the concept of a young band learning to invent itself
 in his essay on Sleater-Kinney), he also lovingly depicts scenes to
 which fans of any sound can relate.
In doing so, the author often takes a godlike stance, proclaiming
 that an artist is brilliant, or that a fellow critic is not.
He also likes to put himself into the artist's head, writing,
 "Pete Townshend didn't really think `Tommy' was an opera, he was just
 having his little joke," and declaring that the intentionally
 ambiguous artist Prince's " `Purple Rain' is about what to do with .
 . . maturity."
But as these fairly straightforward sentences indicate, he has a
 clear (if sometimes vicious) prose style. Technical terms (such as
 timbre) are not defined, but in context are easily understandable.
 Therefore, when he pushes the reader past established boundaries (he
 is, after all, the founder of the Voice's cross-genre "Pazz and Jop
 Poll"), he takes us with him. Of course, riding along with the
 crotchety old dean may not be everyone's idea of fun. But for them,
 as Christgau himself says, "When all else fails, there is always
 jazz."







Re: old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-14 Thread Christopher M Knaus

Hey there,

Hey man, my KISS Alive II double set wasn't marked that way... what 
gives?

KISS didn't want to confuse their typical fan.

Later...
CK who opted for Brazilbilly of KISS on Jan 2, but had second thoughts
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Re: Sara Evans ND review

1999-01-14 Thread RoCogs

In a message dated 99-01-14 02:32:50 EST, you write:

 
 N.D. review of Sara Evans - No Place That Far  (RCA) :
 "
 Just a simple question: Why sign artists if you're going to insist they play
 so far away from their strengths? - Grant Alden (that's the entire review)
  


Just a simple question: Why review an artist if you're not going to tell us
anything about the artist.

Elena Skye



Re: Used CDs

1999-01-14 Thread Tar Hut Records

Who gets those royalties???

The used CD store gets the royalties. Yep



-Original Message-
From: Thomas Wodock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: Used CDs


I buy a lot of used CD's to check out about new artists... afraid to shell
out the 14-17 bucks on someone I've just read about or the album cover
looks
like I would like what is on the disc. I would bet half of the CD's I buy
that way are promo's. Who gets those royalties???
Thom Wodock





Re: River of Song

1999-01-14 Thread stuart

 .  Brian Henneman talked about the importance of the
  river on their lives and their music.  (accompanied by a heartwarming
  shot of the BoRox strolling along the river while drinking cans of beer. g)
  Henneman also said that audiences on the coasts seem to be more intrigued with
  the BoRox because they are from the Midwest. He described the band as
  "little reporters from the heartland".  It made me laugh.

Henneman strikes me as such a great guy.  He has the UHI kind of ironic distance,  but
it's like he's appropriated it and inverted it to say serious things in a
straightforward manner.  Like the quote Marie cites.  His self-effacing humor linked
with powerful songwriting is a nice combo too.  It was nice to have them on last,
capping off a great episode on the St. Louis segment of the river.  .

Stuart
Brox still America's #1 rocknroll band




RE: If you ran into Garth with a used CD in a dark alley.....

1999-01-14 Thread Jon Weisberger

Bob Soron says:

 On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Stevie Simkin wrote:

 Don Yates wrote:
...Still, I'd have to agree with Jon that the Garthman's
primary motivation seems to be the fame of record-breaking
numbers, rather than making every possible dollar that he can.

 Now if he would only put half as much effort into making
 soulful, good country music as he puts into chasing record-breaking
 numbers, maybe I would sit up and listen when he releases another
 of his Godawful albums.

 I think *he* thinks he does.

Probably.

 That aside, though, I'm not sure he could if he wanted to. What's he going
 to say... "This is my country album"? "This is the good one"? "Here's an
 album that everyone will want to buy"? Just don't see it, I'm afraid.

I don't, either, at least not in those terms.  In my opinion, there's
soulful, good country music on just about every one of his albums, so in
that sense, all he'd need to say would be "here's my new album."

In the last week or two I've heard his version of "Shameless" on the radio a
couple of times, and I'll tell you what, it still fools me; every time I
hear the kickoff, I think "oh, man, here comes a good country song," right
up until that first flat-third chord, at which point I realize what it is
g.  He's got a crackerjack bunch of musicians - both on record (and he's
kept the same guys all along, even though they weren't A-team when he made
his first record, and by and large still aren't, which suggests a certain
degree of loyalty) and live - and knows how to cut good straighahead country
and interesting combinations of country and rock/pop/what have you.  If I
had a mind to, I could go album by album and point out stuff on each and
every one of them that is more hardcore country than about half of the P2
top 10 albums all put together, by just about any standard you can think of.
The problem, from my point of view, is that he doesn't do it often enough to
suit me - but then, there are quite a few folks, including some list
favorites, who don't do that often enough to suit me, and quite a few who
don't know how, either.  Like I said, that's my point of view, and I don't
care whether anyone else shares it or not; icky and bland and a lot of other
things are often in the eye of the beholder.

However, please note that I and others who seem not to see Garth as
outstandingly awful are not the ones who keep bringing him up and discussing
him; sometimes the way folks feel compelled to post about him reminds me of
"The Streak."  Just don't look, y'know...

I will, though, point out that the Sovines are missing a real bet by not
covering "Papa Loved Mama."  It's got Mama, trucks and drinking in it, plus
diesel-related violence to boot - and it, er, rocks.

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



whatever fashion statement that is...

1999-01-14 Thread Zeitgolf


uh, we're putting mr. benz on 'cute post alert' for that one.

little-known fact: matt went to high school with our ad director



Re: If You Ran into Garth .......

1999-01-14 Thread Phil Connor

Part of what Jon said,

I could go album by album and point out stuff on each and
every one of them that is more hardcore country than about half of the P2
top 10 albums all put together, by just about any standard you can think
of.


More part of what Jon said,

However, please note that I and others who seem not to see Garth as
outstandingly awful are not the ones who keep bringing him up and
discussing
him;

I agree with Jon.

I have all of his stuff - some used; some new and I enjoy it and I enjoy him
and I
still fail to understand how he has managed to inherit the role of 'poster
boy' for all 'that's wrong' with
'country' music, or 'music' in general for that matter.

I cheered for Mr. McGwire and I am hoping Mr. Brooks achieves his goal as
well.  I believe
that this man's ultimate influence on the music industry has yet to be
felt - there will come a time when artist
turns to 'owning and influencing' and I truly believe when he does this, he
will truly become one of the most powerful
and positive music forces we have ever seen.  This man will not stand still.

Anyway, we shall see ..


Cecil's Cousin

PS - Ever notice how much The Gourds remind you of The Band?



Bill and Business 101 - Giving the People What They Want

1999-01-14 Thread Phil Connor

CDs at 10: Altering music industry's track // Battle brews over used
  discs // Distributors and artists resist trend
  David Zimmerman

* 08/03/93
  USA Today

  (Copyright 1993)
Compact discs are one of those near-perfect products. They never
 wear out.
That - plus the fact that they're not cheap to buy new - is why
 used CD outlets are popping up in strip malls and as a
 controversial sideline in major record stores.
TD  "Customers demanded used CDs," says Bill Lavery of Village
 Records in Shawnee, Kan. "They were popping in the front door
 saying `Do you carry used CDs?' and then leaving. After six months
 of this and business going down, you don't have to be a genius to
 know what you have to do."
Even big retailers are jumping into the used-CD business.  In
 retaliation, four major music distribution companies, worried that
 used CDs may cut into new CD sales, have withheld millions of
 dollars in co-op advertising support from retailers who sell used
 CDs, including Wherehouse Entertainment Inc., which has used CD
 sections in 260 of its 339 stores.
Two weeks ago, Wherehouse filed a lawsuit against distribution
 giants CEMA, Sony, Uni and WEA, saying that withholding ad support
 from some stores and not others is a violation of antitrust laws.
 Wherehouse lawyers say they'll also argue the companies are trying
 to restrict used CDs to maintain high prices for new CDs.
Independent store owners, hit hard by losing ad support, have
 reduced orders and stopped promotions and discount pricing for new
 releases from the four distributors.
But those on the other side of the issue, including Peter McCann
 of the Songwriters Association International, say if secondhand CDs
 reduce sales of new CDs, "the public eventually is going to be
 hurt."
McCann, who wrote the Jennifer Warnes hit The Right Time of the
 Night, says used CD sales don't compensate those "at the end of the
 food chain," which means less support for new songwriters and
 artists. Songwriters and the publisher, McCann says, split a maximum
 of about 6 cents per song per CD sold.  Most of today's songs are

 co-written. When the songwriter share is split three ways, McCann
 says, a songwriter will make $16,000 on a million-seller.
Those who sell used CDs argue that they don't necessarily reduce
 sales of new CDs. Wherehouse CEO Scott Young says "used compact
 discs help stimulate additional sales of all CDs - both new and
 used."
But Bob Freese of Liberty Records says secondhand sales "are
 beginning to take a bite out of our business."  So Garth Brooks'
 upcoming Liberty CD won't be distributed to stores that deal in
 used CDs.
"The way Garth and I feel is that it takes away money from the
 songwriters and people in his band and people in the back rooms in
 the management office," Freese says.
Erik Flannigan of the CD-specialty newsletter International CD
 Exchange says it's hard to argue against used CD sales "when there's
 a secondhand market for so many things like cars and books."




Re: Paul Craft (was:RE: Hank Williams)

1999-01-14 Thread MKAldin

In a message dated 1/14/99 3:03:42 PM PDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  "Blue Heartache," "Midnight Flyer," "Brother Jukebox," "Honky Tonk Waltz,"
 "Teardrops Will Kiss The Morning Dew," "Drop Kick Me Jesus," "Bent, Broken
 And Blue," "Fastest Grass Alive," "I'm Lettin' You In On A Feeling,"
 "Through The Bottom Of The Glass," "Keep Me From Blowing Away"...  

Did he also write "Out Among the Stars," recorded by John Starling on an old
Sugar Hill LP?

Mary Katherine



Re: Hank Williams

1999-01-14 Thread J Stick

"The Country Boy Who Rolled the Rock Away"  David Allen Coe

Stick




RE: Hank Williams

1999-01-14 Thread Walker, Jason

The Hank in the case of the Neil song refers to Hank Marvin, the guitarist
of the Shadows. 

 --
 From: Jim Fagan[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 15 January 1999 6:01
 To:   passenger side
 Subject:  Re: Hank Williams
 
 How about
 
 Hank Williams Said It Best - Guy Clark
 From Hank To Hendix - Neil Young
 
 These are the only songs that come up in my CD database searching
 for Hank (except a Guided By Voices song, which I don't think
 really matches the criteria).
 
 NP: Fastball - All The Pain Money Can Buy
 
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Alejandro Escovedo House Concert SOLD OUT

1999-01-14 Thread Steve Gardner

Hi everyone,

The Alejandro Escovedo House Concert for 2/3 is sold out.  They went
extremely fast.  Sorry if you didn't get in.  Stay tuned for more house
concerts in the future.  Feel free to check my webpage to see the ones
that are coming that aren't on sale yet.

And if anyone knows a good venue where I could get more people in, yet
maintain the small unamplified setting let me know.  

Cheers.
Steve
-- 
==
Steve Gardner * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * www.topsoil.net
Topsoil - A Century of Country Music - Sundays 12-3pm
WXDU 88.7FM Durham NC 
Upcoming House Concerts: 1/15-Joe Thompson



Re: Eddie Hinton

1999-01-14 Thread James Matthews

Robert Wray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

An abbreviated, incomplete discography (courtesy of amazon):
 
  U.S. Releases:

  Cry  Moan 
   Eddie Hinton / Audio CD / Released 1991 

  Very Blue Highway 
   Eddie Hinton / Audio CD / Released 1993 

  Very Extremely Dangerous [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED]
   Eddie Hinton / Audio CD / Released 1997 

  12 Garage Soulanthems 
   Eddie Hinton / Audio CD / Released 1996 

I have "Cry and Moan" and "Letters from Mississippi."  Based on these
Amazon results, the last one might be out-of-print. It's my favorite
of the two, although I think both are great.  There's also an Eddie
Hinton website at: http://www.great-music.com/hinton/index.html
although the information there is limited.

Note that the Zane release _12 Garage Soul Anthems_ is actually the Zane
release of _Letters To Mississippi_ which Zane subtitle _12 Garage Soul
Anthems_.  As I mentioned in a previous post the two available versions
of _Letters To Mississippi_ differ only in packaging and track ordering.
Both include the same 12 tracks.  Hence if you have one you don't need
the other.

np: Eddie Hinton - _Very Blue Highway_

cheers,

- james matthews  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   "like to hear your story told, with a two-step beat and rhyme"



Re: Dreams, Jeff Wall, and SXSW

1999-01-14 Thread JKellySC1

In a message dated 1/13/99 10:22:30 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  He was  , but intrusive guest. 

should read "he was a quiet, but intrusive guest"

Slim



River of Song

1999-01-14 Thread marie arsenault

Have we discussed the PBS series The Mississippi: River of Song yet?
I caught the second installment of the series tonight. It was wonderful.

From the web site: The series explores the richness and vitality of American
music at the close of the twentieth century. Through live performances and
intimate discussions with musicians along the course of the Mississippi River,
the series discovers the music that has flourished in the heart of the nation.
Traveling from an Ojibwe powwow in northern Minnesota to the bandstands of New
Orleans, the series builds a dynamic and complex portrait of music and the
American community.   http://www.pbs.org/riverofsong/project/

They did a very interesting segment on bluegrass focusing on the Bob
Lewis Family and bluegrass festivals.  The kicker was the St. Louis
segment featuring the Bottle Rockets! I had no idea that they were
featured on tonight's episode. It was nice surprise.
At first I wasn't sure if it was actually the Bottle Rockets. But, then I
realized that
there was only one band that *ugly*. Yup. It was them alright. It was
a nice segment.  Brian Henneman talked about the importance of the
river on their lives and their music.  (accompanied by a heartwarming
shot of the BoRox strolling along the river while drinking cans of beer. g)
Henneman also said that audiences on the coasts seem to be more intrigued with
the BoRox because they are from the Midwest. He described the band as
"little reporters from the heartland".  It made me laugh.

Next weeks episode features Southern Fusion: La Center, KY to Jackson,
Mississippi.  Featured artists include Sonny Burgess, Levon Helm, 
Jack Johnson, Rufus Thomas, Johnnie Billington, Robert Lockwood, Jr., 
Little Milton.

marie

"I want my music to be about...emotion.
Three Chords and the Truth.
Take a chance, and please God, let it Twang."
Jeff Wall







Shaggs vs. Monkees

1999-01-14 Thread Budrocket




So who gets more royalties, Mark Farner or Mickey Dolenz? (he sucks 
too)-- Mike Woods

You leave Mickey alone, Mike!
Buddy
Thems Fightin' Words Rockets

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Buddy Woodward - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
THE GHOST ROCKETS - Maximum Rhythm  
Bluegrass 
http://www.hudsonet.com/~undertow/ghostrockets* 
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Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-14 Thread Amy Haugesag

Herr Listmeister writes:


I haven't explored the site enough to give you a definitive answer.  Does
anyone know if it's possible to easily access the P2 archives through that
website?  Does anyone even know who built and maintains the dang
thing?--don


I don't have a clue who built it, but it's maintained by someone or other
at Emory, apparently. It stores only a couple of days' worth of posts, or
in particularly high-traffic times, one days' worth; I think the limit is
on the number of messages rather than the number of days, and it seems to
top out at around 500.

I'm in favor of archiving the whole history of p2 somewhere, as long as
access is limited somehow so that we don't all start getting endless
amounts of Spam. A password might be kind of complicated to implement, but
it would be great if our e-mail addresses could somehow be deleted.

--Amy

"If I said I don't want what I don't have/And all the answers are in
love/If I said I believed in myself and that's enough/I'd be lying"--Sam
Philips




Re: Stuff I Think is Interesting

1999-01-14 Thread Amy Haugesag

Quotable Matt Cook says:

Both of these guys left bands that have WAY more financial potential
than The Gourds.  Keith left The Damnations who signed a major label
deal and have been getting unending positive press in anticipation of
their debut.

(snip)

I hope it stays the same in March when Wilco and The Damnations' new
records are selling like crazy, and GHOSTS is being ignored.

I don't want to take any credit away from the Gourds, of course, but I
think you might be overstating the case here, Matt, at least as far as the
Damnations are concerned. "Unending positive press" and "selling like
crazy" are relative terms. I've heard that the Damnations themselves are
worried about the amount of attention they've gotten this early in their
careers, and though that's understandable, it's not like they've gotten
*that* much attention. They've gotten lots of nice local press in TX, and
they've turned more than a few heads in the alt-country world at large
(mine included), but that's not necessarily going to translate to massive
radio play or record sales, or even features about 'em in Spin or Rolling
Stone; in fact, it's a fairly safe bet that their record won't sell like
crazy among the buying public in general, even if it sells well among p2ers
and our ilk. They're a great alt-country band, one of the best to come
along so far (if we're using the narrow definition of alt-country, that
is--the one that some folks would call country-rock). But that's a pretty
limited market, and for a variety of reasons, I don't see mass success in
the Damnations' future.

For that matter, the Gourds have gotten plenty of good press themselves,
and when they first emerged, there was certainly a lot of buzz about them,
too. So I think casting the Gourds as underdogs here is a little
disingenuous; they may be underdogs in the music biz at large--as are the
Damnations and most of the other bands that get discussed here--but I'm not
convinced they're really underdogs in the world of alt-country.

Wilco are another matter; I'm told their forthcoming record has a shot at
earning them mass success, in which case maybe the Gourds can look forward
to having their next record stickered with "Featuring Max Johnston,
formerly of Wilco!"

--Amy

"If I said I don't want what I don't have/And all the answers are in
love/If I said I believed in myself and that's enough/I'd be lying"--Sam
Philips




Re: Dreams, Jeff Wall, and SXSW

1999-01-14 Thread Jeff Wall

At 11:16 PM 1/13/99 EST, you wrote:
I figured that heading would get some attention.

Last night I dreamed that Jeff Wall came to stay at my house in order to
be at
a concert in my back yard. He was  , but intrusive guest. Other folks were
trespassing on my property and would not leave, and he would not help me get
rid of them. I don't remember who was playing the concert.

Quiet? me? Wel sometimes. I can be quite the moody bastard. But how do you
expect me NOT to be intrusive? I'm 6'7" and weigh 270 for Christ sakes.
It's not like I can blend in at all.

as for kicking all them folks off your property, They weren't doing any
harm and at heart,I'm a real gentle guy.

Jeff Wall   
 http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine
727 Alder Circle - Va Beach, Va - 23462 -(757) 467-3764



Burn Down the Library

1999-01-14 Thread Jeff Wall

AP NASHVILLE: Garth Brooks may be taking the year off from touring, but by
no means is he going to be sitting around doing nothing. The time off from
the road is giving him the opportunity to once again campaign for a cause
he believes in, performer's rights. "I think it's nothing less that
outright theft" says Brooks when asked about the used  cd market.
"Intellectual property is still property. If someone were to sell my Range
Rover without my permission, or without properly compensating me, it would
be the same thing. When someone buys a used Cd, they are depriving the
artist and the songwriter of payment for services rendered."

Brooks, who is one of the wealthiest performers in Country Music is
attempting to spearhead a bill through the Tennessee State House of
Representatives that would require sale of used Cd's to be treated the same
as the sale of new releases. "It ought to be the same. The sales should be
reported to Soundscan and royalties should be paid to the performers and
songwriters." 

The bill, known as the aetistic compensation bill. also states that
royalties should be paid on all intellectual and artistic property, not
just Music cd's. "Hey, if you buy a used car, says Brooks, you still have
to pay taxes on it, get a title and insurance. Artistic Property should be
treated the exact same way." If the Brooks authored bill were to become
law, it would require used book stores and comic book shops to charge a
royalty fee for every used book or collectible comic book sold, including
long out of print and rare materials. The bill also charges library patrons
an 'artists compensation'  fee for every book, periodical, or sound
recording checked out. "Clubs and radio stations have to pay a fee to ASCAP
and BMI for artists compensation in order to play music over a sound
system, states Brooks. I don't see why the Libraries should get off when
the Radio Stations don't. Besides, more people listen to the radio than go
to libraries, so it's only fair."

To learn more about the bill for artistic compensation, visit the Tennessee
House of Reprensentatives website at http://www,tennhouse.gov

Jeff Wall   
 http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine
727 Alder Circle - Va Beach, Va - 23462 -(757) 467-3764



Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-14 Thread Bob Soron

At 8:21 PM -0600  on 1/13/99, Christopher M Knaus wrote:

I would prefer not to have my e-mail address out there on a buncha web
pages. So if you can strip that off, or slap a password on the front of
the whole thing that would be cool. Also remember that there is a web
site or two out there (cant remember the URL) that has p2 postings (you
can read them, but cannot actually post) but I dont know how far back
they go.

I'm with Chris -- I don't mind being in the archives, but I don't want
my email address exposed. (I'm paying for two email accounts, and this
is the private one.) It's essential that whoever's volunteering for
this effort understand that.

As far as I know, the archives are all still available from the
listproc at U Washington, so this should all be moot. List members who
want them can retrieve them from there. (And that includes the current
month, too.)

Bob




Re: If you ran into Garth with a used CD in a dark alley.....

1999-01-14 Thread ScatmanFiv

In a message dated 1/13/99 6:00:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 CDs can be different if a
 person is dishonest and has a CDR burner. They can conceivably buy a Del
 McCoury CD, burn a CDR, and then sell the CD (as well as numerous CDRs to
 people who want to save a buck). I can't replicate a car or Van Gogh for a
 fraction of the cost, keep the almost exact replication, and then sell the
 the car or Van Gogh. I don't believe this is much of a problem now but it
 seems like it could be as soon as more and more people get CDR burners as
 the price keeps dropping. In the case of CDs, the CDR is not just a
 reasonably, functional copy, I think most people would be hard-pressed to
 notice any difference from a sound standpoint. 

   Granted, the sound quality is still an issue, but hell, you've been able to
copy cassettes since I can remember...stereos come equipped with recording
functions.  And while to copy a record, cassette, or cd, is technically
illegal, no one has ever thought about making a stink about it (except for
movie studios when VCR's (or rather Beta-Max) came around).  Cd burners are no
exception, except the fact that they're new.  And again, granted there's a
sound breakdown from cd to tape whereas a cd to cd copy might retain the same
quality, but look at the people who buy music.  Soundphiles are a small
fraction, really, of the music-buying public.  In effect, the advent of cd-
burning technology is nothing really any different from those cassettes you
have with the hand-written titles and playlists.  People don't want to pay for
stuff, and quite frankly, the industry can withstand a little copying.  

-Marc Peterson



Re: Sara Evans ND review

1999-01-14 Thread BustertheK

N.D. review of Sara Evans - No Place That Far  (RCA) :
"
Just a simple question: Why sign artists if you're going to insist they play
so far away from their strengths? - Grant Alden (that's the entire review)

   A review which I found extremely irritating on many levels. Although I
had the same reaction to this album (that it moved away from Evans'
strengths), I'd say the answer to this question should be obvious to anyone,
let alone someone who's been around the business as long as Alden. The answer
is: To sell some friggin' product!
The first album, as good as it was, did not sell. This one already has a top
20 single so it's going to do better.

 Another thing about this review that bugged me is that it assumes (as
some people on this list also do) that the artists on major labels have no say
in what their album sounds like. Wrong, wrong, wrong! Sara Evans wants to sell
product just as much as her label does. Nobody put a gun to her head.

 And I think in general it's just an irresponsible, cheap shot review.
Either write something that at least has pretenses of being an intelligent,
thought out, critique, or just ignore the album like they ignore all the other
mainstream country albums.



Re: Garth

1999-01-14 Thread BustertheK

  
  The reason Garth wants to sell the maximum number of CDs is not
money. 
He is OBSESSED with the notion of being crowned the biggest selling artist of
all time. Selling six CDs for the price of 2-3 and having it count as six
units is a good step in that direction. Selling 2 CDs for the price of one and
having it count as two units is another good step. It's not about money, it's
an ego trip. 


I'll take an edumacated guess and say that is total B.S.  Of course he is in
it for the money!  Of course, it is just a guess and my opinion, blah blah
blah.  Why do you think he wants to sell the maximum number of CDs?  Because
that gets him MONEY.  Do you really think he wants that to spread worldwide
his versions of other people's songs?  I doubt it.  Another guess.  And OF
COURSE he isn't going to go public and say "I care more about money, than
the number of CDs sold!"  Who would?  Talking about units is much easier for
the public to take, than talking about dollars...especially when you are
already loaded



Steve Earle in the U.K.

1999-01-14 Thread Andy Benham

For all U.K. p2ers some dates have just been announced 

20/5/99 London Royal Festival Hall
21/5/99 Coventry Warwick Arts Centre
23/5/99 Cheltenham Town Hall
24/5/99 Liverpool Philharmonic Hall
25/5/99 Glasgow Clyde Auditorium

Andy



Tuesday Night Americana Showcase - January 19th

1999-01-14 Thread gregg mccraw

Hi all of you NC  SC Americana Fans - it's the latest update for our
weekly Showcase held at the Double Door Inn in Charlotte, NC, every
Tuesday Night starting at 9:00 PM.

Tuesday, January 19th:

Lenny Federal, David Childers and
Special Guest Andi Hoffman  The B-Goes

If you made the Black Mountain Music Festival last year, you know who
Andi is… a native of Bern, Switzerland, Andi formed the first B-Goes
lineup there in 1989.  In 1993, he set out to travel the US and ended up
settling in New Orleans.  The Bayou country has provided a rich
influence for Andi, especially the sounds he encountered, from
indigenous music to night-time swamp sounds.  The last five years
flooded his imagination and resulted in the release of Dante Street, a
CD which has been compared with Daniel Lanois’ works.  Don’t miss Andi
and a band which features former members of Woodenhead, Sub-Dudes and
Anders Osbourne.

See Ya Tuesday,

Maxx



Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-14 Thread stuart



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 1/13/99 9:56:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:

 
  I would prefer not to have my e-mail address out there on a buncha web
  pages. 

 I have to agree with CK on this one.  I get enough mail from nuts as it is.

 Deb

  Hey! I haven't sent you any mail in months now.  And my therapist said I'm
making remarkable progress.

But... This is one reason for multiple e-mail accounts.  The other is that it
allows one's alternative personalities to also vote for Mike Ireland.

Stuart
among others



Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-14 Thread stuart



Bob Soron wrote:

 At 8:21 PM -0600  on 1/13/99, Christopher M Knaus wrote:

 I would prefer not to have my e-mail address out there on a buncha web
 pages. So if you can strip that off, or slap a password on the front of
 the whole thing that would be cool. Also remember that there is a web
 site or two out there (cant remember the URL) that has p2 postings (you
 can read them, but cannot actually post) but I dont know how far back
 they go.

 I'm with Chris -- I don't mind being in the archives, but I don't want
 my email address exposed. (I'm paying for two email accounts, and this
 is the private one.) It's essential that whoever's volunteering for
 this effort understand that.

 As far as I know, the archives are all still available from the
 listproc at U Washington, so this should all be moot. List members who
 want them can retrieve them from there. (And that includes the current
 month, too.)

 Bob

You can get free email accounts all over the place now of course, which is
one solution to this.  And I can see where spam might be a problem, although
to date, I've really never had much of problem.  Once in a while something
comes through.  And since I'm not at all cautious about leaving my email
address around the planet, I don't understand why I don't get more, while
Mark Wyatt is apparently on every porn mailer in the U.S. and Denmark.

But the original question was is there a searchable archive.  Can the
archive at U.Washington be easily searched by topic or key word or some
combination of key words?

Stuart




RE: banjo envy...

1999-01-14 Thread Matt Benz



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 2:40 PM
 To:   passenger side
 Subject:  Re: banjo envy...
 
 N.D. review of Sara Evans - No Place That Far  (RCA) :
 "
 Just a simple question: Why sign artists if you're going to insist
 they play
 so far away from their strengths? - Grant Alden (that's the entire
 review)
 
 
[Matt Benz]  Ah, yes, I remember that now. So what's the story
on it? No Pete Anderson? I like a nifty one line review as much as
anybody, when I'm not interested in the music, but in this case, more
details might of helped. 



Re: banjo envy...

1999-01-14 Thread jon_erik

Matt Benz writes:
  Ah, yes, I remember that now. So what's the story
on it? No Pete Anderson? I like a nifty one line review as much as
anybody, when I'm not interested in the music, but in this case, more
details might of helped. 

 I haven't heard it yet myself but, yes, no Pete Anderson.  It's a
Nashville crew this time around.  Maybe I'll pick it up this weekend
since tomorrow is payday.
 Ah, the one-line review.  So difficult to pull off well, it takes
the wit of an Oscar Wilde to deliver effectively.  I've never attempted
it myself - I'm a man who knows his limitations - though came close once.
 I was told that a review I had submitted to "Country Standard Time" was
too verbose (I can't even remember who the artist was) and I came *this*
close to sending back, "Record good.  Fire hurt." as a replacement.
 I think my favorite throwaway review was probably one that showed up
in "Musician" when Yes' "Big Generator" came out:  "Just say no."
--Jon Johnson
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Wollaston, Massachusetts




Fw:Upcoming Birthdays/Happy Birthday Steve Earle

1999-01-14 Thread Melina Brown


   Celebrity Spotlight  Birthdays


   Filed at 1:29 p.m. EST

   By The Associated Press

   In the spotlight: Steve Earle, Nashville's
bad boy 

   Image: ``I got me a fearless heart,''
singer-songwriter Steve Earle has boasted. ``Strong enough
   to get you through the scary parts.'' 

   Personal stats: Born Stephen Fain Earle on
Jan. 17, 1955, in Fort Monroe, Va., Earle grew up
   near San Antonio, Texas. A proficient
guitarist, he was a veteran of the Texas coffeehouse
   circuit by the time he moved to Nashville,
Tenn., in 1974. For the next five years, he worked the
   clubs and shopped for a record deal. 

   His 1986 debut album, ``Guitar Town,''
coincided with the surge of ``New Country'' spearheaded by
   Randy Travis and Dwight Yoakam. The album hit
No. 1 on the country charts. 

   Earle's fearless rock streak -- combined with
graceful lyrics about displaced small-town youth
   -- prompted frequent comparisons to Bruce
Springsteen. (``Real country and real rock are so
   close to being the same that sometimes they
are exactly the same thing,'' Earle says.) 

   From the late 1980s and into the 1990s, Earle
made few inroads onto the country charts. And he
   didn't succeed in the pop sector because he
wasn't considered an all-out rocker. 

   His outspoken ways and wild lifestyle also
took their toll. ``I did things to make things hard on
   myself,'' he says. But after his release from
a drug rehabilitation program in 1995, Earle began to
   fight his way back. 

   ``The music business has left Earle for dead
so many times that no one really expects him to
   bounce back anymore,'' said an article in
Newsweek in 1995. ``So in his utmost ornery fashion,
   that's exactly what he's doing.'' 

   Update: While still in his teens, Earle was
hanging around legendary Texas singer/songwriters
   Townes Van Zandt and Guy Clark, and his songs
have continued to feed Nashville. Emmylou Harris
   and Patty Loveless are among those who have
recorded his songs. 

   Earle was named No. 1 country artist in
Rolling Stone magazine's recent critics' poll. And his
   album, ``El Corazon,'' was nominated for a
1999 Grammy. 

   Quote: ``All my albums are about the same
thing. Me. It's just the way I see things and you see
   things different at 40 than you did at 31,
especially if you get to be 40 the way I did.'' 



And now for the fluff:   

Celebrity birthdays Jan. 17-23: 

   Jan. 17: Actress Betty White is 77. Actor
James Earl Jones is 68. Actress Sheree North is 66.
   Talk-show host Maury Povich is 60. Singer
Steve Earle is 44. Actor David Caruso is 43. Singer
   Susanna Hoffs of The Bangles is 42.
Actor-comedian Jim Carrey is 37. Singer Shabba Ranks is 33.
   Singer Ray J is 18. 

   Jan. 18: Singer-songwriter Bobby Goldsboro is
58. Actor-director Kevin Costner is 44. Rapper DJ
   Quik is 29. 

   Jan. 19: Actress Jean Stapleton is 76. Actor
Fritz Weaver is 73. Actress Tippi Hedren is 64.
   Singer Phil Everly is 60. Actor-singer
Michael Crawford is 57. Actress Shelley Fabares is 55.
   Singer Dolly Parton is 53. Singer Robert
Palmer is 50. Actress Katey Sagal (``Married ... With
   Children'') is 43. Singer Trey Lorenz is 30.
Singer-musician John Wozniak of Marcy Playground is
   28. Actor Shawn Wayans is 28. Singer A.J.
McLean of Backstreet Boys is 21. Actress Jodie
   Sweetin (``Full House'') is 17. 

   Jan. 20: Actor DeForest Kelley is 79. Singer
Ron Townson of The Fifth Dimension is 66. Comedian
   Arte Johnson is 65. Movie director David
Lynch is 53. Musician Paul Stanley is 49. Musician Ian
   Hill of Judas Priest is 47. Comedian Bill
Maher is 43. Actor Lorenzo Lamas is 41. Actress Stacey
   Dash (``Clueless'') is 32. Singer Xavier is
31. 

   Jan. 21: Singer Richie Havens is 58. Singer
Mac Davis is 57. Actress Jill Eikenberry is 52. Actor
   

Musical product vs. music (was: the Garthman, and now is long)

1999-01-14 Thread Will Miner


I am always amused when we get onto these Garth threads.  It doesnt take 
but a few posts before someone is loudly condemning his venality and how 
it's ruining good music and so on.  And this is simply not true.  Garth's 
intentions are really no different from all of those nice alt-country or 
whatever types that most of us like:  he wants to sell a lot of records.  
The main difference is that he's much better at it than any of the 
others.  

There's no difference in this regard between Garth and, say, for 
examples, Steve Earle or Lucinda Williams or Jay Farrar or (insert name 
of your favorite Artist-With-Integrity here).  Steve Earle may say in 
print that he makes too much money and so on, but I would bet that if he 
were a poor Sugar Hill artist selling only 5,000 units a pop and having 
to work a day job he'd change his tune.  

When talking about the state of music these days, I find it helpful to 
make a distinction between music and musical product.  Or another way to 
think about that is the distinction between a local musical economy and a 
national one.  

A local musical economy is what's healthy for music, and in fact is where 
it comes from.  This means that the people who listen to the music do not 
just do it by buying units of product but by hearing it live, meeting and 
cheering the musicians whose lives they support, and (most importantly) 
playing it themselves.  One of the ironies of bluegrass is that though 
its origins were commercial, bluegrass has survived and thrived because 
it's been based in local music economies around the country.

"Thrive" might seem inappropriate to describe the small bluegrass world
that scarcely ever makes a blip on the charts (though there are of course
noted exceptions), but what makes keeps music healthy is not statistics
from Soundscan.  As long as I've been on this list (more than three years
now) a lot of people have been waiting for the first Cinderella
alt-country band to blow a hole in the charts and bring the gospel of
alt-country to the masses, as if this would be proof and a sign that this
music is real and viable and legitimate.  Whereas, what makes it all of
those things are not sales but the fact that in Austin and Chicago and the
Triangle and (just) a few other places, you can go hear it live, you can
play it with people -- it is music in which everyday people participate
and contribute (as opposed to musicians with a caital "M", artists who
with some people have almost a priestly status).  There are (or at least
were once) healthy alt-country economies in a few cities.  The beauty of
indie rock in the 80s was that there were healthy and very unique
economies in quite a lot of cities scattered around the country
(Minneapolis, Athens, LA, Boston, Seattle, Austin, yes, but also places
like Phoenix and Milwaukee and Washington DC).  

In contrast to this, the "professionals" in the business are not working
to create music so much as musical product.  Musical product is for the
passive consumption of large groups of people, and the problems of
divorcing the music from the locality from which it originally percolated
are the same as all of those that get complained about whenever we get to
the topic of country radio.  Commercial radio is lame and unlistenable to
specifically because it is irrelevant and unresponsive to its listeners. 
The history of corporate popular music in America is one of taking
wonderful and thriving local music, tearing it from its roots and making a
lot of money off it even as it dies.  

Disconnected from the local music economy, the music ceases to be alive; 
growth is replaced by "artistic development" and vanity projects.  The
music becomes the personal property of the artist as opposed to a shared
part of the community which supports and nurtures it.  This is the history
of rock 'n' roll, rb, soul, and country as we know and love them.  (Peter
Guralnick's book "Sweet Soul Music," a terrific read, though not focused
on this, tells the story of local soul music from Memphis, Macon, and
Muscle Shoals and how it slowly strangulated as it became hugely
commercially successful.)

True, some artists seem to be more focused on making an excellent product
than others.  Some artists make more moving, trascendent, hard-hitting,
(insert your favorite musical quality) albums than others.  The artistry
is more honest.  But the problem is not that Garth is venal while Steve
Earle has artistic purity, but that the aims of the economy in which both
participate tends to be at odds with making good music that is alive.  The
business of making records is a business about selling units and
generating money, not "artistry."  To the extent that corporate music 
people care about awards for artistry it's only as a means to making more 
money.  This is not the realm where music lives.


Sorry to go on so long,

Will Miner
Denver, CO




Re: If you ran into Garth with your car...

1999-01-14 Thread Steve Gardner

Matt Cook said:
I'd buy it, too.

Start writin' bub!  I'm serious.

I'll give you free webpage space for the philosphies of Matt Cook, or
whatever you want to call it.  Email the text to me and I'll post it.  I'm
not kidding.

WRONG! was brilliant.
steve




Re: banjo envy...

1999-01-14 Thread Steve Gardner

 I think my favorite throwaway review was probably one that showed up
in "Musician" when Yes' "Big Generator" came out:  "Just say no."

I like the (I think) Rolling Stone review for the old guitar band GTR.  The
review was simply "SHT".

I thought the above review you mentioned was simply "No."  I could be wrong,
though.  I never saw it, I just heard all the urban legends.

steve




Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-14 Thread Geffry King

 
 As far as I know, the archives are all still available from the
 listproc at U Washington, so this should all be moot. List members who
 want them can retrieve them from there. (And that includes the current
 month, too.)

Any way to do this via FTP? If I try to get the listproc to send me a
2MB text file by E-Mail, my mailer will ROTF and LIAO.

-- 
 Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/
"We were having trouble getting a good clean bass sound. So instead 
 of going with a standard 2/4 beat, I said, `Let's try a 4/4 bass 
 and a shuffle rhythm,' and it cut. It cut clean through."
 -- Ray Price, on recording 'Crazy Arms'






Re: Musical product vs. music (was: the Garthman, and now is long) and see ya!

1999-01-14 Thread \Doug Young aka \\\The Iceman\\\\



Steve Gardner wrote:


 Plus, 1999 is gearing up.  The holiday is over and I have one badass Terry
 Allen record to let the world hear.

 See ya.
 Steve

Hope you hang around.  Enjoy your commentary.  But getting tired of all the
Garth stuff.  Who cares; he'll do what he do and whine about it.

I don't know about the world but I'm waiting with baited breathe.  And just for
your gee whiz file, walked into the on air studio Tuesday and ask the programmer
what version of New Delhi Train he was playing.  Only one there is he said.
Little Feat of course.  Wrong best version is by the songwriter. T.A.

Iceman



received, thanks. / Earle

1999-01-14 Thread Danaloi

Missy Roser sent me a copy of P2 no. 1252... thanks again.

found a live track of Steve Earle doing "Have Mercy" in 1990 or 91 at the
Bottom Line... while searching for extras to fill out a tape of I Feel
Alright.
I couldn't believe my luck -- fit the theme and all. It's from a TDK/CMJ new
music report disc, show No. 43.

Dan
NP: Steve  Greg Trooper, I'll Keep It With Mine
NR: ND Jan-Feb (thanks, Jim!)



Re: Syd Straw question

1999-01-14 Thread Hellcountry



At 09:56 AM 1/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
Did I read a post here a few month back that Syd Straw's 'Surprise" would
get a CD reissue -- maybe on Koch?  If anyone knows whether this will
happen, or if anyone has an unwanted CD copy of "Surprise", I'd love to
know
about it.  Syd is cool.

If you've got a turntable and a CD burner I've got a sealed copy of the
album, obviously never touched by my grubby paws.


I don't know who originally posted this but I have a cd copy, in a promo
package that is kind of unique but annoying as all hell.  The outer sleeve
is about 4 X 8 with the album graphics, and inside the disc is "spring
loaded" with an elastic band contraption.  You pull the cd out and "SUPRISE"
it springs across the room and gets scratched landing on the floor.  I'd be
happy to tape it for whomever made the original query.  Contact me offline.

Stacey

Hellcountry "supporting the Boston area twang scene"
http://www.hellcountry.com  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Sugar Hill in '99/Gatemouth Brown

1999-01-14 Thread Steve Gardner

Hey, does he play fiddle on that rerelease? I dont' know much about him but
I
caught a little of a set of his at Tramps once (I believe it was some kind
of
benefit concert) and when he played fiddle the hairs on the back of my neck
went up. ANd stayed there. His fiddle playing was hot and nasty and all the
good things.

Gatemouth plays guitar, fiddle, harmonica, viola and electric mandolin on
the album.  I still haven't even had a chance to hear this one yet, because
it isn't back from the manufacturer yet.  I'm looking forward to it, though.

Cheers.
Steve
==
Steve Gardner * Sugar Hill Records Radio Promotion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] * www.sugarhillrecords.com

WXDU "Topsoil" * A Century of Country Music
[EMAIL PROTECTED] * www.topsoil.net
==




Re: River of Song

1999-01-14 Thread Robert C. Warth Jr.

I've been waiting to see this miniseries for some time and it was great to see the
Bottle Rockets on the TV. Besides Brian Henneman's bar room interview, the
filmmakers also had footage of the boys playing at Mississippi Nights. At one point
the camera pans back and picks up infamous St. Louis scenester Beatle Bob dancing
away in the crowd.

Bob
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


marie arsenault wrote:

 Have we discussed the PBS series The Mississippi: River of Song yet?
 I caught the second installment of the series tonight. It was wonderful.

[snipsnipsnip]

 The kicker was the St. Louis
 segment featuring the Bottle Rockets! I had no idea that they were
 featured on tonight's episode. It was nice surprise.
 At first I wasn't sure if it was actually the Bottle Rockets. But, then I
 realized that
 there was only one band that *ugly*. Yup. It was them alright. It was
 a nice segment.  Brian Henneman talked about the importance of the
 river on their lives and their music.  (accompanied by a heartwarming
 shot of the BoRox strolling along the river while drinking cans of beer. g)
 Henneman also said that audiences on the coasts seem to be more intrigued with
 the BoRox because they are from the Midwest. He described the band as
 "little reporters from the heartland".  It made me laugh.



Re: Burn Down the Library

1999-01-14 Thread Tom Smith

 "I think it's nothing less that
 outright theft" says Brooks when asked about the used  cd market.
 "Intellectual property is still property. If someone were to sell my Range
 Rover without my permission, or without properly compensating me, it would
 be the same thing. 
Gee,  by this logic, it's not really YOUR Range Rover, Garth. 
It still belongs to the automaker. and this:
 If the Brooks authored bill were to become
 law, it would require used book stores and comic book shops to charge a
 royalty fee for every used book or collectible comic book sold, including
 long out of print and rare materials. The bill also charges library patrons
 an 'artists compensation'  fee for every book, periodical, or sound
 recording checked out. 
And if such a law ever took effect, he could kiss his career 
goodbye. The public reaction would be deadly. If Garth 
wants to play games with the Nashville power structure, 
that's fine. If he seriously thinks he's going to change the 
free library system in this country, then he really is the 
contemptible horse's ass his detractors make him out to 
be.
Waiting for the librarians on the list to weigh in on this one,
Tom Smith



Toni Price? Bob Childers?

1999-01-14 Thread Scapegrace

I'm looking for advice on these two artists. Specifically: 

How is Toni Price's CD "Sol Power"? How does it compare 
(in terms of style and quality) to "Swim Away" and "Hey"?

I really like the Bob Childers' song "Restless Spirits" that Jimmy 
LaFave covered. What are Childers' own solo CDs like?

Thanks,
Mark

"The demand for perfection is always a sign of a 
misunderstanding of the ends of art." - John Ruskin