Re: Austin Motel

1999-02-18 Thread Amy Haugesag

Randi Fratkin asks:

So when and where (here or on the fluff list?) do we get to start talking
about who's going to SXSW, and where they're staying? Who's in charge of
compiling the P2 directory?

Because I am insatiably nosy, I will volunteer to do this (even though I
barely  have time to read my e-mail and all my friends are beginning to
hate me because I never write them back). If you're going to SxSW and you
want others on the list to know you'll be there, please send me an e-mail
to say so. You can also let me know where you'll be staying, if you feel
really daring. (NB: Alex will be staying at the Austin Motel, and the party
is in his room.)

--Amy




Premier Player Awards

1999-02-18 Thread vgs399

Congratulations, Nancy!  You done real good!  I see from your list of
nominees that you're in some pretty fine company.  Good luck and let us
know...
Tera

14th Annual Premier Player Awards Nominees

   Premier Songwriter Award: Nancy Apple, Tommy Burroughs, Jimmy Davis,
Jerry
Hayes, Ross Rice,   Keith Sykes.

   Award for Community Service recognizes an outstanding contribution to the
music community and/or community at large by an individual or group.
   Nominees: Nancy Apple, The Blues Foundation, Bob Kelley, Larry Nager,
Play
It Again Memphis.

The Premier Player Awards will be held at The Pyramid on Wednesday, March
31.
For ticket information, call NARAS at 525-1340.








Re: SXSW Saturday

1999-02-18 Thread Chad Hamilton

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Guess this opens up my Saturday night again. And I was suddenly panicking that it 
would be opposite Sparklehorse.

Who are incidentally playing before the Flaming Lips.  Does anyone know
if this is going to be a true Flaming Lips' gig or more of that
synchronized car stereo crap?

Chad
-- 
Chad Hamilton
University of Texas
Graduate School of Business
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Time line?

1999-02-18 Thread Kelly Kessler


John Magee wonders:
Who was the first alt.country artist?

Bill Monroe?
Bob Wills?
Johnny Cash?

snip

My vote goes to that kamikaze of the acoustic guitar, Riley Puckett.



Austin show on Sunday nite

1999-02-18 Thread jonathan

Hi everyone,

Thought I'd let you know:
I'm a Chicago-based singer/songwriter and I'm off to Texas for a week.
'Twould be excellent if any of you Austinites could come hear me this
Sunday night...I've never been down there before and I'd love to have
somewhat of an audiencehere's the show info:

sunday, feb 21, 8:30PM $5
Jonathan Rundman at "Jollyville City Limits Songwriters Series"
B.B. Rovers International Cafe and Pub
12636 Research Blvd. 101-B
Austin
512-335-9504

Thanks!
-Jonathan
www.mich.com/~tbberg/saltlady.html



Needed Accordion

1999-02-18 Thread vgs399

Someone said:

 Play an accordian. Go to jail. It's the law.

So that's what happened to Nathan Abshire, Amede Breaux, PeeWee King...and
Art Van Damme.  g  Seriously, all of the above
by mastering this chest cumberbund,made some very beautiful, richly textured
music. I'm particularly fond of Abshire (French Blues ) and Van Damme
(Swings Sweetly, The Art Of...).
Great stuff, in my opinion.  The squeezebox is dead, long live the
accordion!
Tera (getting off the homemade soapbox)





Re: Time line?

1999-02-18 Thread vgs399


While I'm thinking about it, I came up with a solution -- that works for me
-- to dealing with the infernal question "What is Alternative Country?"

For the purposes of the time-line -- although it's also my general
philosophy -- I don't attempt to define "alternative country" at all.
Instead... sort of turn it around a bit, and consider --

 -- an alternative way of looking at country music(snip rest of post)

...Cheryl Cline

Great stuff, Cheryl.  Wonderful concept.  Might make for a great book
(hint).  I'd love to read a discussion such as this on P2 as well.
Any takers to continue the ball rolling here?
Tera





Re: SXSW Saturday

1999-02-18 Thread Ndubb

 Who are incidentally playing before the Flaming Lips.  Does anyone know
 if this is going to be a true Flaming Lips' gig or more of that
 synchronized car stereo crap?
  

I think it's a real one. I suspect they have to get back to making
conventional records after that 4 CD thing they did last, which probably sold
about ten copies total. 

NW, who kinda liked the synchronized car crap. 



SXSW Saturday

1999-02-18 Thread Douglas Baxter

If anybody has some time Saturday night of SXSW and you want to hear the
rockin blues done right try David Gogo's showcase at 8:00 at the Watrloo
Brewing Co.
This guy is amazing.

Doug Baxter



Re: Time line?

1999-02-18 Thread Hanspeter Eggenberger

 Reply to:   Re: Time line?
John Magee wrote:
Who was the first alt.country artist?

I think the line begins with Hank Williams. And don't forget Gram Parsons!

HP




Joe Pernice Interview (long)

1999-02-18 Thread Sophie Best

Warning: this interview contains jokes which don’t look so funny in
print as they were live in the studio! 

- Joe, we’re so glad that you finally made it to Australia… you had a
few dramas getting here last time, didn’t you?

Yeah, it was just one big drama, haha. It’s good to be here, actually.
I just flew in a few hours ago.

- You look remarkably well for someone who’s just been in a plane for
24 hours.

So I don’t look half-dead? I think I’m two-thirds dead, haha.

- Now I understand you’re doing a solo show tomorrow night, and then
play Saturday night with local band Golden Rough backing you up.

Yeah, Golden Rough are only doing a handful of songs with me, like six
or so. That should be a lotta fun.

- And I hear you’re gonna play a few old Scud Mountain Boys songs too
on this tour, you haven’t done that in the states for a while have you?

No, not since the summer of 97. I’ve played a handful of solo shows in
America where I pull out a lot of those songs, but for the most part
when I do that, I’ll play songs that we didn’t play much as a band. So
I haven’t visited a lot of the material from my first three records in
a couple of years, it should be interesting.

- Well, I  begged you before to play a Scud Mountain Boys song for me…
will you oblige?

Of course. How about “In A Ditch”, from the record “Massachussetts”?
(heavy sense of sarcasm in his voice since I had hassled him
mercilessly to play this song) … (laughter)… Hmm, that doesn’t sound
rehearsed! (slowly) How about “IN A DITCH” off the record ….
“MASSACHUSSETTS”? (laughter)

- live performance –

- Joe, thank you so much… that’s a song that I’ve often wondered
about… do you mind telling me about the context of the song?

Ah… no, I don’t mind, but… hahaha… um, how about a more specific
question?

- Well… tell me what it’s about!

Well, most of the songs I write are based pretty much around real
experiences, loosely… sometimes less loosely… and, uh, 95, as you’ll
find out when you do your big trek across America is a major
interstate. Uh, it’s just, you know, someone I knew was found on the
other side of that road. That was their last journey. So it’s pretty
much, you know, that’s the story.

- It’s a pretty raw song… a lot of your songs evoke a sense of loss…

Why, thank you. Thanks! Hahaha.

- And I think there’s quite a few angry songs on the new album, too…

Really? Oh no, I’m not capable of anger.

- C’mon, “Monkey Suit” is a pretty angry song…

There’s not an angry bone in my body. “Monkey Suit”… well, yeah,
that’s a little angry… It’s more fearful, probably… at least where I
come from… it’s probably the same everywhere… but you live your life,
you go down a track, and you end up working in a bank or something,
and to me, that track would be… I mean, I don’t wanna offend any of
your listeners who might be bankers, but it would do me in for sure. I
hate bankers. Insurance, that’s another thing… if you underwrite
insurance policies, god bless you.

- Is music what you always wanted to do, or did you dream of being an
insurance broker one day?

I did! Hahaha. No, I’ve always played music, but I never thought I
would do it as full-time as I am. It just came as a fluke. I was in
graduate school, and the opportunity came up… it had always been a
dream, I just had to do it.

- How about writing? Last time we talked, we spoke about your studies
in poetry and your interest in creative writing… have you been writing
lately?

Mostly songs… lyrics… I’m working on a book of poetry right now. I
have a Masters in Fine Arts, but I haven’t had a lot of time, y’know.
I’ve just been focussing on playing music and writing songs and
recording. It seems like I’ve been really busy since, I don’t know,
the last year things have been pretty busy for me.

- I heard a rumor that you’re also working on a side project?

Just finished an album two weeks ago, it’s pretty mellow – like the
other records aren’t, hahaha. We made it at home with a few of the
members of the band, and my friend John from Jolene, he sings on the
record, and Geoffrey Underhill from the Velvet Crush plays on it. It
was a lot of fun, we weren’t really sure where it was going to go, and
that was half the fun of it. We just jumped into it. I had a bunch of
songs that didn’t seem to fit the project we were doing, and the
opportunity to make a record came up, so we got off the road – we’d
been on tour for months – and just jumped right into recording. It’s
gonna be released on Sub-Pop. Would you like to hear a song from that
record?

- I’d love to.

I’ll try not to mangle this… I reserve the right to stop in the middle
of it… When I left home two days ago it was 20 degrees fahrenheit and
the street was covered in ice and it’s something else just trying to
get your key in the lock of your car door, it can be an ordeal… A
writer who’s influenced me a lot is a Swedish poet called Thomas
Traumstromer (sp?) and I wrote a song that’s a sort of homage to him
called “Solitary Swedish Houses” which is a 

Half Mad Moon

1999-02-18 Thread Terry A. Smith

Great record. You all were right. Except that guy from Usa Today who
compared the Damnations TX sister-singers to the Louvin Brother singers
didn't know what he was talking about. The only similarity is the fact
that the two pairs are each related by blood. I don't hear the X
comparisons either, at least with regard to singing. Anyhow, when I
listened to it, I expected the "second voice" to be louder in the mix, and
more of a vocal contrast to the lead singer, as in the Louvins. But not so.

Anyhow, a good record with clever, engaging songwriting, and best of all,
a nice, tangible, chunky sound. I love the bass. -- Terry Smith



Re: Half Mad Moon

1999-02-18 Thread BARNARD

Terry,

Although it is indeed exaggerating to compare them to the Louvins, the X
comparisons make sense to me.  I think these come out more when you
see them live.  They have certain sounds, harmonies, etc. that have a very
"X-like" effect in that context.  I forget which song it is, but they
sometimes cover an X number live and it sounds damn good in their version,
very true to the spirit of the original, etc.

Overall, however, I find their writing and sound pretty unique.  They are
truly not a cookie-cutter outfit and have that rare thing, a sound and
style truly their own.





SV: Chip Taylor in Concert! Part II

1999-02-18 Thread Johnny Borgan

Sorry all, I got John The Guitarplayers name all wrong - of course it
was John PLATANIA - who played with Chip for many years, and also have
played with Bonnie Raitt and Van Morrison a.o.

Johnny
 -Opprinnelig melding-
 Fra:  Johnny Borgan 
 Sendt:18. februar 1999 10:05
 Til:  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Kopi: 'Tom Skjeklesæther'
 Emne: Chip Taylor in Concert!
 
 Last night, in Oslo, Norway, Chip Taylor stopped by, and played us an
 incredible bunch of songs, from his megahit "Wild Thing" (Jimi
 Hendrix) and a string of other songs made popular by people like
 Emmylou Harris, Linda Ronstadt and others. But, even better, he played
 the great songs from his last and forthcoming albums. His
 guitarplaying compadre, John Nataglia, made an excellent job, playing
 sensitive guitar behind Chip, and great harmony vocals. It was a very
 unique experience, as the crowd was just the "chosen few" - but then,
 Chips performance is not to crowds, but to you and your heart.
 
 Chip was off the road for many years, and didn't make music, but
 making a living as a professional gamler. A few years ago, he went
 home, to his old mother, and to creating great music - first the
 Living Room Tapes, and then one the highlights in country music in the
 nineties, in my opinion - "Seven Days in May". The whole story is
 about Chip meeting this young french girl, Florence. She is pregnant
 at the time, he fell deeply in love and spends seven days in May with
 her, before she leaves for France and marriage with the father of the
 child. The song cycle gets everything, the story, and the feeling of
 falling in love, the despair and sadness of not being able to hold on
 to this love ("How Can I Get Through This"), and one of the saddest
 and greatest "love-that-can-not-continue"-songs I ever heard, "Just
 Keep Holding On". The album is bathed in real emotions, put through in
 a poetic way, showing us feelings that many of us may know, a
 beautiful soundtrack to love stories. The sensitive ballads, the
 strong emotions and the very intense vocals can be compared to Bob
 Dylan's masterpiece, Blood On The Tracks. And then we're on the all
 time top of the list! In many ways it gets under your skin the same
 way Iris DiMents "My Life" did, a few years ago.
 
 But Chip is not alone on this record. Among others he got members from
 The Band, Rick Danko and Garth Hudson helping him out, and we also get
 two beautiful duets with Lucinda Williams. Guy Clark made harmony
 vocals, and duets with Chip on the song, "One Hell Of A Guy" (!).
 
 The record is released on Chips own company, TrainWreck Records (What
 a great name for a record company).
 
 It's a shame that so few got to hear Chip last night, though it made
 it a very memorable event for me and the others watching.
 
 But the record is out there - go get it, you won't regret it! And
 then, when you heard it, tell us all about it!
 
 Johnny
   
  (O_O)
 ---oOOO---(_)---OOOo- 
 
 "Don't ask me nothing about nothing, I just might tell you the truth!"
 (Bob Dylan)
 
 "You're getting closer to the grave each day!" (Hank Williams)
 
 
 



Re: Radio M show about No depression music

1999-02-18 Thread Bob Soron

On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Amy Haugesag wrote:

 Bob Soron--an editor, I might add--wrote:

A soon-to-be-former technical book editor, if you will. And if any of you
publishing types have any contacts around Chicago in a saner and more
interesting line of editing work (no books, no daily-paper copy desks,
but just about anything else), I'd love to know about it offlist...
 
  I liked the
 lead singer better than Tracy
 
 Really? Does Tracy know about this, Bob?

I actually did tell her this last night. She seemed OK with it, but I'll
let her speak for herself.

Bob



mainstream country query

1999-02-18 Thread BARNARD

A friend who doesn't listen to country but is curious about where it's at
these days just asked me who the top acts in mainstream country were,
aside from Garth and Shania.  That is, who it is that represents the
current state of respectable mainstream country, etc  Not legends,
like Dolly or whoever, but top sellers and top draws *today*, people who
represent the current development of the mainstream aesthetic.

So, putting aside Garth and Shania as marketing superphenomena of their
own (and as dubious examples of "country"), I'm wondering what some of the
people here on P2 who know the mainstream think.

I suggested, of the male artists:  Vince, George Strait, Alan Jackson.  Of
the female artists:  Reba, Pattly Loveless, Trisha Yearwood.

Does that sound about right?  Actually, having gotten to thinking about
this, I'm curious what people think.  Are these about the biggest "legit"
current country names, or I am forgetting someone?

Thanks,
--junior




Re: mainstream country query

1999-02-18 Thread KATIEJOM

Junior, since your looking for commercial folks, I'd recommend this chart for
"legit" info:

A HREF="http://www.billboard.com/charts/country.html"
http://www.billboard.com/charts/country.html/A (Top 20 Country)

Kate.

In a message dated 2/18/1999 12:52:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I suggested, of the male artists:  Vince, George Strait, Alan Jackson.  Of
  the female artists:  Reba, Pattly Loveless, Trisha Yearwood.
  
  Does that sound about right?  Actually, having gotten to thinking about
  this, I'm curious what people think.  Are these about the biggest "legit"
  current country names, or I am forgetting someone?



RE: mainstream country query

1999-02-18 Thread Hanspeter Eggenberger

 Reply to:   RE: mainstream country query
BARNARD wrote:
I suggested, of the male artists:  Vince, George Strait, Alan Jackson.  Of
the female artists:  Reba, Pattly Loveless, Trisha Yearwood.
Does that sound about right?  Actually, having gotten to thinking about
this, I'm curious what people think.  Are these about the biggest "legit"
current country names, or I am forgetting someone?

You forgto the Dixie Chicks.

HP




Re: mainstream country query

1999-02-18 Thread BARNARD

Thanks Katie,

Yeah, if one can access top 20s for the last few years, I'm sure that
would give a clear idea too...

-junior



Re: Half Mad Moon

1999-02-18 Thread William F. Silvers



BARNARD wrote:

 Although it is indeed exaggerating to compare them to the Louvins, the X
 comparisons make sense to me.  I think these come out more when you
 see them live.  They have certain sounds, harmonies, etc. that have a very
 "X-like" effect in that context.

This struck me as well, and me and JR were at the same mid-July show as I
remember.Their late October KC show was a bit more subdued and more in the
spirit and sound of the record.

  I forget which song it is, but they
 sometimes cover an X number live and it sounds damn good in their version,
 very true to the spirit of the original, etc.

"We're Desperate". They didn't do it here in KC, and they sorta smiled when I
shouted out for it."You musta seen us before, huh?" was the guitar/banjo
player's (Rob?) comment.

 Overall, however, I find their writing and sound pretty unique.  They are
 truly not a cookie-cutter outfit and have that rare thing, a sound and
 style truly their own.

Yup. It worries me though, all the accolades and buzz about 'em here and it's
just February.
We'll have 'em cut down to size by summer I reckon, and by top ten time
they'll be forgotten.

g

b.s.



Re: Austin Motel

1999-02-18 Thread Debnumbers

In a message dated 2/17/99 9:00:37 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
  Just curious, what P2ers are actually staying at the Austin Motel? I 
  know Alex is, and Jake London and maybe Jerry Curry. I need to know who
  

I've got a room but I'm on the maybe list depending on what happens with my
job.

Deb



Re: Austin Motel

1999-02-18 Thread Debnumbers

In a message dated 2/16/99 10:06:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Just curious, what P2ers are actually staying at the Austin Motel? I know
 Alex
 is, and Jake London and maybe Jerry Curry. I need to know who I'm gonna be
 able to share a cab with, and who I need to avoid. g
  

whoops, I read wrong.  I'm not at the Austin motel but I might be in SXSW
depending on the job situation.



Re: mainstream country query - Gavin

1999-02-18 Thread KATIEJOM

In a message dated 2/18/1999 1:26:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Yeah, if one can access top 20s for the last few years, I'm sure that
  would give a clear idea too..

one more resource from the radio side of the biz, The Gavin Country Chart:
A HREF="http://www.gavin.com/music/country/chart.shtml"
http://www.gavin.com/music/country/chart.shtml/A

K.



Re: Half Mad Moon

1999-02-18 Thread BARNARD

Heh, like Bill I worry a bit that all this buzz could be a problem
for a fine group.  Obviously people should definitely hold on and
seem em live this summer, when they'll be out and about.  

I hope they have some staying power, in any case.  Excessive buzz is
always a difficult thing to deal with.  I do think they've got
something fresh and, in my few encounters with them, they've struck me as
the kind of people I like to like, if you know what I mean.

Besides that, however, I'm waiting for new Derailers, dang it!! g
--junior

PS.  And thanks Bill for the reminder:  that version of "We're Desperate"
was fine fine fine



Re: Half Mad Moon

1999-02-18 Thread JKellySC1

In a message dated 2/18/99 12:40:54 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Obviously people should definitely hold on and
 seem em live this summer, when they'll be out and about.   


I saw them for the first time at a Waterloo instore on tuesday, and I was
impressed enough to buy the CD (on sale at $9.99). I haven't given it a lot of
listening time due to the deluge of stuff in the mail this week, but I could
tell it was good with one complete listen. There was an obvious difference in
the live and recorded performance, part of which may be due to the fact that
the album was recorded well over a year ago. I imagine they are ready to move
past that material, but with the national promo machine cranking up they will
have to live with it for a while. 

The harmonies were good, but they are no Louvins. I think the comparison with
x comes from the nature of the harmonies, which I am sure some music scholar
can describe better than me. I hear a lot of lower harmony (minor 3rds?) as
opposed to high harmony, which the Louvins did. Nevertheless, I enjoyed them,
and hope to see more in the future. The banjo ruled.

Slim



Re: mainstream country query

1999-02-18 Thread Ndubb

 I suggested, of the male artists:  Vince, George Strait, Alan Jackson.  Of
 the female artists:  Reba, Pattly Loveless, Trisha Yearwood. 

Of the above, I'll vote for Vince and Strait. And I'll add to the list Dolly,
maybe that barefoot Carter gal, the Dixie Chicks and most anyone Weisberger
recommends. Hell, I even like some of Shania's stuff, but that might be just
because I think of her belly button every time I hear 'em. Personally, I can't
stand Reba. Her overdramatic songs make me nearly as nauseas as those of
Celine Dion. And mostly, let's not forget the future of mainstream country,
Allison Moorer. Her star is rising, and quick. Plus, of all the artists
mentioned above, she is the *only* one that *really* hits me like I need to be
hit. All the others are more like: well it's good for mainstream country, you
know?

Done with monster deadline (woo hoo), but gotta go clean up cat puke,

Neal Weiss



more good news fom the music Gods

1999-02-18 Thread James Gerard Roll


I have a pre-release tape of the new Ray Wiley Hubbard studio album due
out on Philo later this year.  Very nice passionate stuff that picks up
where Dangerous Spirits left off.  Lloyd Maines produced with the usual
cast of characters plus a bunch of greasy slide guitar from Ray himself
and some nice vocals from Patty Griffin.

Lots of gritty Gospel folk concerning down to earth/metaphysical
dilemnas, and the small-room band sound is really appealing to me.

anyways, add this to the list of great music due out later this year.

-jim



Re: mainstream country query

1999-02-18 Thread Louise Kyme



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I suggested, of the male artists:  Vince, George Strait, Alan Jackson.  Of
  the female artists:  Reba, Pattly Loveless, Trisha Yearwood. 

 Of the above, I'll vote for Vince and Strait. And I'll add to the list Dolly,
 maybe that barefoot Carter gal, the Dixie Chicks and most anyone Weisberger
 recommends.

Faith Hill is the only other one I can think of that's been left out.

 but gotta go clean up cat puke,

ugh.

Louise
--

If you like rocking country music, check out the Okeh Wranglers web site at:

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/bluesmoke




re: Jason White/Hadacol

1999-02-18 Thread marie arsenault

Mr. Curry says:
Oh...lastly, a "You HEard It Here First".be on the lookout for an
incredibly talented young singer-songwriter, Jason White.  He sung two
songs at the Donald Lindley benefit and he basically left the audience
floored.  I'm talking about an audience full of Nashville cats.  


How timely. Jason White and Hadacol are playing the Sutler in Nashville
this Saturday night. I'd recommend seeing both. If anyone from the area is
planning on being there, give me a holler. It would be nice to say hi!

marie

np: psychotic herd of small dogs barking incessantly.




Michigan content: Sovines in Lansing

1999-02-18 Thread Jamie DePolo

Quick reminder that those men of the road, The Sovines, will be playing at
Mac's Bar  in Lansing, Mich., on Saturday, Feb. 20.  PBR will be flowing.
Also, Dave Alvin, The Riptones and Terrance Simien at the Magic Stick in
Detroit on Friday, Feb. 19.  Be there or be L7.

Jamie D.



Reviews you can (or can't) excuse

1999-02-18 Thread William F. Silvers

There's some reviews of new records by bands many folks here are
interested in, Bad Livers, Damnations TX, Del McCoury and Beth Orton at
the Salon website.


 http://www.salonmagazine.com/ent/glow/


Not bad but some fodder for the especially review-critical in the crowd.
Might be a good appetizer for the dormant "working-class" discussion I
still wonder about.
Wake me once somebody finally actually defines it, or did I just attempt
to eliminate it by asking? bg

b.s.



Re: Chicago content -- Hideout this weekend

1999-02-18 Thread Kelly Kessler


Sez THOMAS KRUEGER:
I wanted to make sure the Chicago contingent
noticed there will be an all-too-rare appearance of our town's old-time
string band homiez, the Volo Bogtrotters, at the Hideout this Saturday.
In
my uninformed yet vehement opinion, there is no better old-time band in
the land.

I am with Tom here about a million per cent.  I moved up here from Kentucky
with the snooty conviction that there ain't no way a bunch of Yankees could
play old time music worth a damn, and then those Volo boys cured me of that
notion and converted me to their Bogtrotting ways.  They are always a good
time.  'Course we regret the fact that Mr. Jim Nelson left the fold and
moved to St. Louis, but we're sure he's doing good things down there.

Also on the horizon at the Hideout: tonight, LeRoy Bach, Gina Forsyth, Cow
Lily; tomorrow Anna Fermin  Trigger Gospel, Lloyd Maines, Terri Hendrix;
March 12 the V-Roys; May 9 Blue Mountain.

Kelly



Re: Time line?

1999-02-18 Thread Jamie Hoover

Hi Tom,

Tom Smith wrote:

 Jamie Hoover wrote:
 
  I'm still trying to figure out the anti-country (any country) backlash in
  Gallup and one theory that was presented to me was that it wasn't actually
  anti-country but anti-Navajo. --Yikes.

 Yikes indeed. Just outta curiosity, if country is out, what's
 "in" instead?

What I'm finding out is that the folks that tend to call this station are really
against anything, music or involvement that is of a local/community nature.
Strangest thing I've ever come across.  Seems that many people who make a living
off the Indians don't like being reminded that they're in the west.  The blatant
paternalism is truly offensive, especially to someone who has only lived in the
west.My first day here all I heard was "well, local programming is ok as long as
it isn't Country and Western"  about seven people said that to me in day.  The
folks that don't like the west want Classical and Jazz programming,especially if
it is NPR produced.
Very strange indeed.
Hey you are headin west aren't you?  Have a great time in Alpine and Austin.
Jamie




1999 Edges from the Postcard2: Call For Submissions!

1999-02-18 Thread louicm


We're officially extending the deadline for this (but not for
much longer!) so if you're new to the Postcard2 mailing list
or you figured this deal was past due, well...send us your songs!
Last year's "EDGES FROM THE POSTCARD 2" featured unreleased material
by Robbie Fulks, Kimmie Rhodes, Mike Ireland  Holler, Wooden Leg,
Five Chinese Brothers, The Meat Purveyors, One Riot One Ranger, Bill Lloyd
and Elena Skye among many others, and we're looking for this volume of
EDGES to be just as unique. So regardless of whether you're a seasoned pro
or a ready-to-go newer act, get us your stuff!--Your Twang Gang

-- Forwarded message --

Even while the wildly-acclaimed "Edges From the Postcard2" still continues to
grace the CD changers of the urban hip intelligentsia and sexy librarian types,
it's time to issue the call to you music makers out there to send us your
nocturnal (and diurnal, for that matter) emissions for consideration for the
1999 version of Edges.  In other words, send us your songs!

Of course, we've got some ground rules here, mainly to help the selection
committee maintain the shred of sanity they have left.  So here they are:

(1)  We're asking for original, previously unreleased material.  If you submit
a cover tune, it will probably be passed over unless its sheer genius causes
the selection committee to have simultaneous orgasms.  The tunes submitted may
be demo versions, but realize that you will need to have a well-recorded
version in our hands if we chose your song for the compilation. 

(2)  Since the Edges CD is first and foremost a reflection of the Postcard2
community, we ask that all submitting bands have at least *some* tenuous
connection to the list--in other words, either a band member or someone
connected with the band (manager, booking agent, bail bondsman) should
subscribe to P2.

(3)  No more than four songs will be considered, so don't bother sending
more--they won't get listened to.

(4)  We will need THREE (3) identical copies of the submitted tunes, in cassette
format only.

(5)  Send these submissions, along with generous bribes, to:

  Dave Purcell
  720 Overton St.
  Newport, KY  41071

Be sure to email Dave at [EMAIL PROTECTED] after you send the material so
that Mr. P can confirm that he got everything he was supposed to.

(6)  If one of your songs is chosen for the CD, we'll eventually need a
professionally recorded DAT copy of it, so keep this in mind.

(7)  All proceeds from the project will go toward the staging of Twangfest3 and
future Postcard2 projects.  Honest.  If you saw what kind of cars we drive, you
wouldn't even *ask* if we were skimming.

That's it!  Last year's Postcard2 CD has done quite well, and we think
that this year's will do even better.  To paraphrase what Tom Cruise said
to Cuba Gooding, Jr. in "Jerry McGuire":  help us help *you*.  Send us the
results of your talent, determination, and substance abuse today.

Love,

Your Twang Gang





Re: 1999 Edges from the Postcard2: Call For Submissions!

1999-02-18 Thread louicm

P.S. Please note that Dave Purcell's e-mail address has changed,
with regards to the EDGES III post. His current, correct address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Oops. Sorry.

Your Twang Gang (well, just Kip this time, actually)





Re: Time line?

1999-02-18 Thread Tom Smith

Jamie Hoover wrote:
 
I'm still trying to figure out the anti-country (any country) backlash in
 Gallup ... many people who make a living
 off the Indians don't like being reminded that they're in the west.  The blatant
 paternalism is truly offensive, especially to someone who has only lived in the
 west.My first day here all I heard was "well, local programming is ok as long as
 it isn't Country and Western"

Yeah, that's odd. I wonder if metropolitan Nashville natives 
were like that in the early days of the Opry, before the 
recording money started barreling in. Maybe it's part of the 
undying urge to identify with a larger mass culture and 
ignore the local stuff. I lived in New Orleans about 20 years 
ago and hearing local musicians on the radio outside of 
Mardi Gras season was rare.  I also remember an old Cajun 
guy in Golden Meadow whose granddaughter was transfixed 
by the Osmonds. She couldn't have cared less about the 
culture she was living in. 
 Hey you are headin west aren't you?  Have a great time in Alpine and Austin.
Thanks, I Ieave on Monday!
Tom



Damnations NY

1999-02-18 Thread JimCat

Todd Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked of the Damnations TX:
Ah, home..anyone know where in New York they're from?

They’re from Cobleskill, up near Albany, although I had heard they used to
live in Binghamton.

Jim Catalano
Ithaca NY



Re: 1999 Edges from the Postcard2: Call For Submissions!

1999-02-18 Thread John Magee

Dear Edges guy:

May I ask for a clarification and some advice?

The submission from Scrimshanders was recently rejected from this compilation,
yet the deadline for submissions has been extended. I was kind of surprised to
see that. I can only take this to mean that a certain bar was set for the level
of the material to even be considered, and our work didn't pass muster . . . it
was placed in a "definitely won't make it!" pile. You must have had to extend
the deadline because the "good enough" pile was a few beers short of a six pack.
I can understand.

While we Scrimshanders are nowhere near a Fulks, Ireland, Wooden Leg, Five
Chinese Bros, One Riot One Ranger, et. al., we're pretty proud of and serious
about what we do. In the hopes of improving ourselves, we ask: why didn't we
make it? Do the songs blow, was the performance too shoddy, is the demo-quality
recording not good enough, or some combination of the above? Had we sent a
picture, I would completely understand rejection based on the hairstyle of our
lead guitar player, but you've never seen him.

Thanks for your time.

John Magee
Scrimshanders

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 3:51 PM
Subject: 1999 Edges from the Postcard2: Call For Submissions!



 We're officially extending the deadline for this (but not for
much longer!) so if you're new to the Postcard2 mailing list
or you figured this deal was past due, well...send us your songs!
Last year's "EDGES FROM THE POSTCARD 2" featured unreleased material
by Robbie Fulks, Kimmie Rhodes, Mike Ireland  Holler, Wooden Leg,
Five Chinese Brothers, The Meat Purveyors, One Riot One Ranger, Bill Lloyd
and Elena Skye among many others, and we're looking for this volume of
EDGES to be just as unique. So regardless of whether you're a seasoned pro
or a ready-to-go newer act, get us your stuff!--Your Twang Gang

-- Forwarded message --

Even while the wildly-acclaimed "Edges From the Postcard2" still continues to
grace the CD changers of the urban hip intelligentsia and sexy librarian types,
it's time to issue the call to you music makers out there to send us your
nocturnal (and diurnal, for that matter) emissions for consideration for the
1999 version of Edges.  In other words, send us your songs!

Of course, we've got some ground rules here, mainly to help the selection
committee maintain the shred of sanity they have left.  So here they are:

(1)  We're asking for original, previously unreleased material.  If you submit
a cover tune, it will probably be passed over unless its sheer genius causes
the selection committee to have simultaneous orgasms.  The tunes submitted may
be demo versions, but realize that you will need to have a well-recorded
version in our hands if we chose your song for the compilation.

(2)  Since the Edges CD is first and foremost a reflection of the Postcard2
community, we ask that all submitting bands have at least *some* tenuous
connection to the list--in other words, either a band member or someone
connected with the band (manager, booking agent, bail bondsman) should
subscribe to P2.

(3)  No more than four songs will be considered, so don't bother sending
more--they won't get listened to.

(4)  We will need THREE (3) identical copies of the submitted tunes, in
cassette
format only.

(5)  Send these submissions, along with generous bribes, to:

  Dave Purcell
  720 Overton St.
  Newport, KY  41071

Be sure to email Dave at [EMAIL PROTECTED] after you send the material so
that Mr. P can confirm that he got everything he was supposed to.

(6)  If one of your songs is chosen for the CD, we'll eventually need a
professionally recorded DAT copy of it, so keep this in mind.

(7)  All proceeds from the project will go toward the staging of Twangfest3 and
future Postcard2 projects.  Honest.  If you saw what kind of cars we drive, you
wouldn't even *ask* if we were skimming.

That's it!  Last year's Postcard2 CD has done quite well, and we think
that this year's will do even better.  To paraphrase what Tom Cruise said
to Cuba Gooding, Jr. in "Jerry McGuire":  help us help *you*.  Send us the
results of your talent, determination, and substance abuse today.

Love,

Your Twang Gang







Whoops!!! Personal message to list.

1999-02-18 Thread John Magee

Awesome! A personal message to the list by me . . . you may all make your
comments on our music if you want.

Egg on face. Edges committee, please respond anyway.

Magee

-Original Message-
From: John Magee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: 1999 Edges from the Postcard2: Call For Submissions!


Dear Edges guy:

May I ask for a clarification and some advice?

The submission from Scrimshanders was recently rejected from this compilation,
yet the deadline for submissions has been extended. I was kind of surprised to
see that. I can only take this to mean that a certain bar was set for the level
of the material to even be considered, and our work didn't pass muster . . . it
was placed in a "definitely won't make it!" pile. You must have had to extend
the deadline because the "good enough" pile was a few beers short of a six
pack.
I can understand.

While we Scrimshanders are nowhere near a Fulks, Ireland, Wooden Leg, Five
Chinese Bros, One Riot One Ranger, et. al., we're pretty proud of and serious
about what we do. In the hopes of improving ourselves, we ask: why didn't we
make it? Do the songs blow, was the performance too shoddy, is the demo-quality
recording not good enough, or some combination of the above? Had we sent a
picture, I would completely understand rejection based on the hairstyle of our
lead guitar player, but you've never seen him.

Thanks for your time.

John Magee
Scrimshanders

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 3:51 PM
Subject: 1999 Edges from the Postcard2: Call For Submissions!



 We're officially extending the deadline for this (but not for
much longer!) so if you're new to the Postcard2 mailing list
or you figured this deal was past due, well...send us your songs!
Last year's "EDGES FROM THE POSTCARD 2" featured unreleased material
by Robbie Fulks, Kimmie Rhodes, Mike Ireland  Holler, Wooden Leg,
Five Chinese Brothers, The Meat Purveyors, One Riot One Ranger, Bill Lloyd
and Elena Skye among many others, and we're looking for this volume of
EDGES to be just as unique. So regardless of whether you're a seasoned pro
or a ready-to-go newer act, get us your stuff!--Your Twang Gang

-- Forwarded message --

Even while the wildly-acclaimed "Edges From the Postcard2" still continues to
grace the CD changers of the urban hip intelligentsia and sexy librarian
types,
it's time to issue the call to you music makers out there to send us your
nocturnal (and diurnal, for that matter) emissions for consideration for the
1999 version of Edges.  In other words, send us your songs!

Of course, we've got some ground rules here, mainly to help the selection
committee maintain the shred of sanity they have left.  So here they are:

(1)  We're asking for original, previously unreleased material.  If you submit
a cover tune, it will probably be passed over unless its sheer genius causes
the selection committee to have simultaneous orgasms.  The tunes submitted may
be demo versions, but realize that you will need to have a well-recorded
version in our hands if we chose your song for the compilation.

(2)  Since the Edges CD is first and foremost a reflection of the Postcard2
community, we ask that all submitting bands have at least *some* tenuous
connection to the list--in other words, either a band member or someone
connected with the band (manager, booking agent, bail bondsman) should
subscribe to P2.

(3)  No more than four songs will be considered, so don't bother sending
more--they won't get listened to.

(4)  We will need THREE (3) identical copies of the submitted tunes, in
cassette
format only.

(5)  Send these submissions, along with generous bribes, to:

  Dave Purcell
  720 Overton St.
  Newport, KY  41071

Be sure to email Dave at [EMAIL PROTECTED] after you send the material so
that Mr. P can confirm that he got everything he was supposed to.

(6)  If one of your songs is chosen for the CD, we'll eventually need a
professionally recorded DAT copy of it, so keep this in mind.

(7)  All proceeds from the project will go toward the staging of Twangfest3
and
future Postcard2 projects.  Honest.  If you saw what kind of cars we drive,
you
wouldn't even *ask* if we were skimming.

That's it!  Last year's Postcard2 CD has done quite well, and we think
that this year's will do even better.  To paraphrase what Tom Cruise said
to Cuba Gooding, Jr. in "Jerry McGuire":  help us help *you*.  Send us the
results of your talent, determination, and substance abuse today.

Love,

Your Twang Gang









Re: Playlist: Fringe 2/13/99 featuring LONE JUSTICE

1999-02-18 Thread Rob Russell


 
 It is my pleasure to announce that, beginning next Saturday, the Fringe is
 expanding to a three-hour format. 

Yikes -- imagine 3 hours of the 
Bystanders in a camper? I don't know if I want to be around them guys 
in that small of a space for that long!

Congrats, Shane!

Rob
___
Robert A. Russell
Director, Writing and Communication Center
East Tennessee State University
Box 70602
Johnson City, TN  37614
Phone:  (423) 439-8438
Fax: (423) 439-8666
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.etsu.edu/wcc

***
"Objective evidence and certitude are doubtless very fine ideals to play with
but where on this moonlit and dream-visited planet are they found?"

-- William James, 1842-1910, "The Will to Believe"



Re: SXSW HOTEL ROOM AVAILABLE

1999-02-18 Thread katahdin

I also have an Austin motel reservation that I won't be using 'cause I'm
staying with folks in town. If you want it, write me offlist sometime
before Saturday (that's when I'm cancelling it). It's from the 17th thru
the 21st (leaving on the 22nd). 

Steve Kirsch
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"I've been thinking with my guts since I was 14 years old, and, frankly
speaking,
between you and me, I have come to the conclusion that my guts have shit
for 
brains." -- Nick Hornby, "High Fidelity"







Re: mainstream country query

1999-02-18 Thread Danlee2

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 And mostly, let's not forget the future of mainstream country,
  Allison Moorer. 

  Yes.

Her star is rising, and quick. Plus, of all the artists
  mentioned above, she is the *only* one that *really* hits me like I need to
 be hit. 

  Equally hit.

  Done with monster deadline (woo hoo), but gotta go clean up cat puke,

Thank you for that, Neal.

dan bentele



Re: Hangin' with the Stahs!!! (SXSW Film '99)

1999-02-18 Thread William F. Silvers



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Looks like us SXSW--bound P2ers will have worthy company.  I get Jenna
 Elfman!

Heh. That "Krippendorf's Tribe" was a good un.

b.s.



Re: Mojo Magazine

1999-02-18 Thread Louise Kyme



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey there,

 Does anyone have the US address for Mojo magazine that I posted back in
 november?

 Thanks.

 Later...
 CK

Don't know if you still need it or not, but I found this tucked away
somewhere:

Hey there,

OK, here's the address on the subscription card

MOJO c/o Mercury International Ltd.
365 Blair Road
Avenel NJ 07001

12 issues for $69.97
plus the CDs
plus the Tshirt

Later...
CK

Louise
--

If you like rocking country music, check out the Okeh Wranglers web site
at:

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/bluesmoke




Re: Hangin' with the Stahs!!! (SXSW Film '99)

1999-02-18 Thread Jim_Caligiuri

snip EDtv directed by Ron Howard (attending), starring Matthew
McConaughey (attending), JennaElfman, Woody Harrelson and Jon Bon Jovi
(attending); world premiere
Abilene  directed by Joe Camp III, starring Ernest Borgnine (attending)

Wow I don't think this town will ever be the same after being visited by
Bonjovi, Borgnine and Iggy in the same week.
Jim, smilin'




Re: Damnations NY

1999-02-18 Thread Matt Cook

No, they aren't a honky tonk band.
Listen to their covers and you'll figure where they are commin' from:
Ted Hawkins, Lucinda Williams, X, Minutemen, Kiss, Tom Waits, The
Gourds, Carter Family, etc.
Keith's a very jazz-influenced drummer, but he's confessed that he used
to play Iron Maiden as a youngster.
Rob comes straight from post-punk rock (Picket Line Coyotes, with Kev.
and Jim 'o' The Gourds, were closer to Husker Du than anything else).
He learned the banjo just to play those songs.
 I'm not so certain about all of Amy and Deborah's influences.  I'm
pretty sure that before Austin and The Gourds they heard mostly pop and
folk (like most of us).
The Beatles are, of course, huge.

'Bout the exact same influences as The Gourds, but without the
occasional gangsta rap and honky tonk (both from Kev., mostly).

--Matt Cook

James Gerard Roll wrote:
 
 I haven't been following this thread real real carefully, so forgive me if
 I am re-iterating anything someone else already said.
 
 anyway, I find the Damnations to be much more of a 60's soul-oriented band
 deep down than a country band.  I certainly don't hear any Louvins in
 there at all . . .
 
 By soul I mean the chord structure and rhythms are out of the Stax mold
 as opposed to the Hank Williams mold.
 
 -jim



Re: Half Mad Moon

1999-02-18 Thread JP Riedie

Because I'm in a bad mood, this whole post really pissed me off.  Can it
really be that your entire self-worth is predicated on The Gourds and what
others think of them?  That's pathetic. This is the Damnations shot.  How
petulant and prissy of you to stomp your feet and hold your breath because
the Gourds don't get mentioned everytime somebody praises the Damnations!

Lots of people consider the Damnations superior to the Gourds.  Though this
may never be comprehensible within your sad little worldview, it remains a
fact.   To sooth yourself in the face of this grave injustice is quite
natural.   It's just reprehensible to do so by minimizing a great band
and grudgingly acknowledging contributions of Deb and Amy as some sort of
footnote to the contributions of the men that surround them.  It's
disgusting and I hope a bunch of female musicians corner your ass someday
soon.


"We're Desperate"
Rob and Debra sing it.

Just to add alittle:  I don't think Rob and Keith are getting quite
enough credit.
A lot of that 'uniqueness' comes from their end of the deal.  Rob is the
most effective and emotional guitar player I've ever seen in my life,
and I've never heard anyone say he's less than their favorite.
And Keith, damn, I just point to the difference he's made in The
Gourds.  It's pretty damn astounding.

And I honestly believe even more of it comes from Jimmy and Kev
(Gourds).
Jim wrote "Take It on Down the Line", used to be their drummer before
Keith was (he had to quit when The Gourds 'took off')--the Jimmy in
"Black Widow" is guess who?  And, of course, there would be nothing
without Big Daddy Russell.
The first gigs D-Nation ever played outside of Austin was opening for
the Gourds on a Texas swing Oct. before last (Keith played with The
Gourds and decided to join).  I have one of those shows on video,
believe it or not.

Everyone has influences.  The Gourds wouldn't be like they are without
The Bad Livers, etc.  And Amy's songs are great songs, nothing wrong
with them at all.  And she's an excellent bass player.  And they sing
beautifully.

I guess, all I'm trying to say is buy GHOST OF HALLELUJAH.  You can hear
more of that 'uniqueness' from everyone else involved except Amy and
Deborah.
I'm just freightened that The Gourds are gonna be left out of this
equation when The D-Nation hits it big.  It's time for them to drag The
Gourds along (instead of the reverse).
And don't forget Mike Nicolai, too.  Everyone (including the girls) is
all over his stuff.

--Matt Cook






Re: Half Mad Moon

1999-02-18 Thread JKellySC1

I have figured it out: The Damnations TX are a country version of Cheri
Knight.

It's good stuff.

Slim
np - duh



Re: Half Mad Moon

1999-02-18 Thread Ph. Barnard

Slim quips:

 I have figured it out: The Damnations TX are a country version of Cheri
 Knight.

Ooooh!!  Mrowl! gGood one, Slim.

Like I said this morning, don't let the buzz fool ya, they're a fine 
fine band!!!

Nuff said for now,
--junior



Re: Half Mad Moon

1999-02-18 Thread Terry A. Smith

 
 Yup. It worries me though, all the accolades and buzz about 'em here and it's
 just February.
 We'll have 'em cut down to size by summer I reckon, and by top ten time
 they'll be forgotten.
 
 g
 
 b.s.
 
So which night at Twangfest are The Damnations TX gonna headline? I think
it's obvious they're gonna be there. Anybody wanna bet? -- Terry Smith,
who has no inside knowledge (about anything)



P2 1316-PLEASE??

1999-02-18 Thread Karen Cunningham

When I opened digest number 1316 there was nothing there.  Would some kind
soul pleae forward it to me?

Much appreciated,

Karen

Without music, life is a mistake--Friedrich Nietzsche





Re: mainstream country query

1999-02-18 Thread Terry A. Smith

If nobody has mentioned Faith Hill, I will. This is going to sound weird,
but she is just so damn gorgeous and (seemingly) friendly, and her songs
don't make me gag like Shania's do. So there it is. Faith Hill's the queen
of country music. -- Terry Smith, who actually prefers Lee Ann Womack, if
what we're talking about is songwriting



matt cook -- performance artist

1999-02-18 Thread James Gerard Roll


Admit it Matt.  You are not really a Gourds' fan at all, are you??
C'mon?? I have the sneaking suspician that, in the grand tradition of Andy
Kaufman, et al. you have decided to deconstruct fandom by creating the
absolute most obnoxious fan you or anyone can imagine.

Your real genius (c'mon admit it) is that you have exploited the internet
and become the first ever virtual performance artist.  You aim to make
those of us who are still salvageable - aware of the absurdity of
identifying with a band or any musical movement and you have chosen our
humble little cult to beging tyhe Cook Revisionist movement.

I salute you good sir.  Matt Cook.  You have captured Beatlemania
(lightning in a bottle!!) and thrown it back at another generation in a
brilliant stunt and stuffed history back in its black whole.

gourds.  gourds. gourdS. gourDS. gouRDS. goURDS. gOURDS. GOURDS. GOURDS!!

ha ha.  oh Matt, please let us in on the joke. 

I know you won't.  But breathe easy for we are one step closer to
freedom from bondage.

Matt Cook.  Performance Artist.  Liberator!





Re: Half Mad Moon

1999-02-18 Thread Ph. Barnard

Actually, Terry, funny you should ask.  There are, in fact, several 
significant developments about Twangfest lately  Including 
headliners, and so on.  

We're going to get ourselves organized for an announcement of several 
of these developments in just a very few days.

Not trying to be a tease, REALLY!  We just want to cross our Ts, dot 
our Is, and let our world famous spokesmodel Mr. Mark Wyatt step up 
to the plate when everything's in order.

News a-comin' soon,
--junior, for the TwangGang Inc.



Re: Half Mad Moon

1999-02-18 Thread William F. Silvers



Terry A. Smith wrote:

 So which night at Twangfest are The Damnations TX gonna headline? I think
 it's obvious they're gonna be there. Anybody wanna bet? -- Terry Smith,
 who has no inside knowledge (about anything)

That's hard to say Terry, since Thursday will be the Blood Oranges and Jayhawks
reunion double bill, Friday will be the Green On Red and Blasters reunion double
bill, and Saturday will be the Uncle Tupelo reunion show. Don't think there'll be
room for a bunch of Gourds wannabees. g

b.s.



Re: mainstream country query

1999-02-18 Thread Ph. Barnard

Thanks to everyone responding to this mainstream country query...

I know about Alison M, etc.  But in giving a neat least of 3 men, 3 
women to my friend, I'm trying to represent not necessarily what's 
"best" from an informed critical standpoint, but rather what most 
clearly represents a contemporary mainstream country aesthetic.

So yeah, Faith Hill is definitely right there in that category.  
Trisha is too popped-out?  

--junior

PS.  I like Jim's reading of Matt as performance artist.  I must 
admit, I've been taken in all this time g.



Over-produced?

1999-02-18 Thread Terry A. Smith

I was listening to Dwight's 98 release again last night, closely, and came
to the conclusion that this is just about the most produced records in the
country genre from last year. Well, one of 'em. Remember how Mike  Ireland
and Holler's record got a lot of attention because it has strings on a few
songs? And some folks criticized it for being over-arranged or produced (I
know these mean different things, but am not really sure why). But, shit,
Dwight Yoakam's record is like a ceramic pot that's been worked so slick
that you can see yourself in it. In comparison, Ireland/Holler is a
barebones affair. I don't know what this is leading to; certainly not a
value judgment, since I like both records. Dwight's, in fact, is probably
one of my favorites of his (though it's no "Looking for a Hit" or "Buenes
Noches...") I guess it's just a way of saying that the presence of strings
doesn't necessarily say much, one way or another, about the production ethic
that's going into a record. Oh, yeah, DW's record has more strings, used
less delicately, than the Holler record. -- Terry Smith



Re: Over-produced?

1999-02-18 Thread Ph. Barnard

Heavily produced, yes, but overproduced, I personally don't think so. 
As with most things, it's all in context and how you use it.  Low-fi 
is cool when it works, sounds crappy when it doesn't.  Big production 
is cool when it works, bombastic-sounding when it doesn't

Dwight's was my number 1 album last year and remains a fave, so I'm 
always ready to say good things about it.

About the production, I guess one could also note that Pete (who 
did the producing) has varied things on each cut, according to 
what works on that particular track, etc.  I mean, some of the big 
Twangpop numbers have huge-sounding production, whereas (pardon,
I'm always blanking titles), the Lantern song is quite spare and the 
last track, the Elvised-out re-do of the earlier track, is positively 
garage-y sounding (and one of my favorite tracks on the album).  My 
point being that Pete has done a good job of doing what the context 
demanded, rather than simply adopting a "big" production sound as an 
invariable norm for all the cuts.  

Over and out from Dwightsville,
-junior



Re: Half Mad Moon

1999-02-18 Thread Matt Cook

You're exactly right.

I am a sad case.
Except, I think, you're confusing me with someone with any kind of self
worth.
Sure, I feel happy when someone praises one of my favorite bands' music,
but it has absolutely nothing to do with me.
I'm not on those records.

I just wish my bud's in Austin could be appreciated the way they should
be.  
I was just trying (poorly, I guess) pointing out that Rob and Keith
where getting almost no credit at all.
And I tried to tack on an ad for GHOSTS at the end (shouldn't have done
that, I guess).

I certainly wasn't trying to put down The Damnations.
After all, the Damnations are the second best band in Austin.

--Matt Cook

P.S.-Sorry if I pissed you off.  I pissed myself off when I reread my
post, it does sound a little like I was putting the girls down a bit.

JP Riedie wrote:
 
 Because I'm in a bad mood, this whole post really pissed me off.  Can it
 really be that your entire self-worth is predicated on The Gourds and what
 others think of them?  That's pathetic. This is the Damnations shot.  How
 petulant and prissy of you to stomp your feet and hold your breath because
 the Gourds don't get mentioned everytime somebody praises the Damnations!
 
 Lots of people consider the Damnations superior to the Gourds.  Though this
 may never be comprehensible within your sad little worldview, it remains a
 fact.   To sooth yourself in the face of this grave injustice is quite
 natural.   It's just reprehensible to do so by minimizing a great band
 and grudgingly acknowledging contributions of Deb and Amy as some sort of
 footnote to the contributions of the men that surround them.  It's
 disgusting and I hope a bunch of female musicians corner your ass someday
 soon.



Twang TV (of sorts?) Tonight? (alliteration sold separately)

1999-02-18 Thread Ameritwang

I was just utilizing the movie listings of my digital cable (yeah yeah...i
happen to *like* The Game Show network)...and noticed that TNT is playing the
movie:

The Deliberate Stranger

meanwhile back in the 'burgh, tonight The Deliberate Strangers are performing
with the Crawling Low band...

coincidence??  I think not!

Stop by their show tomorrow night at Plutos and I'll buy ya a drink!***

Paul

np: Alejandro Escovedo - With These Hands

*** offer not valid for residents in the state of Pennsylvania.  No purchase
necessary.



Re: Half Mad Moon

1999-02-18 Thread JKellySC1

In a message dated 2/18/99 5:49:29 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I have figured it out: The Damnations TX are a country version of Cheri
  Knight.
 
 Ooooh!!  Mrowl! gGood one, Slim.
 
 Like I said this morning, don't let the buzz fool ya, they're a fine 
 fine band!!! 


Oh, I like them a lot! And Cheri Knight. It was a compliment.

Slim



Nine Inch Nails in my Coffin

1999-02-18 Thread Christopher M Knaus

Hey there,

According to some DJ on Q101 (Chicagos Rock Alternative) The next Trent
Reznor CD is going to be all Hank Williams covers. The DJ wasnt as
excited as I was. If I was not in my car I might've called him up and
given him what's fur.

LAter...
CK
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Re: Time line?

1999-02-18 Thread Christopher M Knaus

Hey there,

Hanspeter Eggenberger writes:
Reply to:   Re: Time line?
John Magee wrote:
Who was the first alt.country artist?

I think the line begins with Hank Williams. 

How?

He was Nashville, popular, mainstream, did adds for just about anything,
and wrote songs for the sole purpose of selling alot of them to a
mainstream audience.

The man was country. No alt.

Later...
CK filling in poorly for JW
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Clip: Margasek on Tom T. Hall Tribute

1999-02-18 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

http://www.chireader.com/hitsville/990219.html

The liner notes to The Essential Tom T. Hall, a 1987 compilation
reissued on CD last year by Mercury, feature an uncommonly wide array of
testimonials. There are the usual raves from peers: Johnny Cash shares a
few personal memories; George Jones calls Hall "the all time greatest
songwriter/storyteller that country music has ever produced." And Don
Tyson, who hired Hall to stump for his chicken empire, calls him "A
Great American." But then Kurt Vonnegut chimes in with a recollection of
how he first met his good friend Hall, all-star catcher Johnny Bench
enthuses about Hall's hit "Old Dogs, Children, and Watermelon Wine," and
Billy Carter writes that his mother trusted Hall "because a man that
could sing about baby ducks the way he did loved animals, and a man that
loved animals had to love people and life." 

Hall is best known for writing "Harper Valley P.T.A.," probably the
only country song to inspire a movie and a sitcom. But in his nearly
four-decade career he has also worked as a radio jingle writer and DJ,
written four novels, and toured college campuses lecturing on literature
with old pals like Alex Haley, accumulating a diverse but rabid fan base
along the way. As a performer he's had his share of top-five hits--"A
Week in a Country Jail," "The Year That Clayton Delaney Died," and "I
Love," to name a few--but his bread and butter has been the thousand or
so songs he's written for the likes of Jones, Waylon Jennings, Flatt 
Scruggs, Gram Parsons, Bobby Bare, Loretta Lynn, Alan Jackson, and even
Perry Como.

Longtime Chicagoan Mark Linn got an introduction to Hall in the
early 90s, when he caught a performance of his "That's How I Got to
Memphis" by Lucinda Williams in Baltimore. Over the years Linn has
dedicated himself to reviving interest in Love front man Arthur Lee and
flaky folkie Michael Hurley, and by 1995 he'd become so enamored of
Hall's oeuvre that, with the help of former Thurston's booker Justin
Bass, he began planning a tribute record. The two originally planned to
release it on Linn's tiny Delmore label, which had issued early work by
the High Llamas, Scarce, and Wild Carnation, but once artists like Cash,
Joe Henry, Ralph Stanley, Whiskeytown, Richard Buckner, Ron Sexsmith,
and Mark Olson and Victoria Williams came on board, Linn says, they
decided to try licensing it to a bigger label. 

In late 1996 Linn and Bass met with Luke Lewis, the head of
Mercury's Nashville department. "He knew it wasn't going to be a big
moneymaker, but he thought it would be cool to have because Tom T. Hall
was on Mercury," says Linn. Lewis made Linn and Bass a verbal offer, but
before it could be put into writing it was overruled by bean counters in
New York. After six more months of protracted negotiations, Linn and
Bass decided they'd rather put the record out themselves.

In the summer of 1997, while they were waiting on a bank loan, a
tape of the record fell into the hands of Sire records founder Seymour
Stein, the eccentric who gave the world the Ramones and Madonna. When
Stein called, Linn says, "he was so charming. He knew more about country
than anyone on Music Row, and he sang Jimmie Rodgers songs to me on the
phone. He blew my mind. What I didn't realize was that he's a completely
elusive character, and when we started talking business he changed a
lot. He became a lot tougher and we had a lot of shouting matches." It
took nearly another year and a half for Sire to bring out Real: The Tom
T. Hall Project, and when it did, in December, it got lost in the
Christmas rush. But last week it popped up at number 35 on the Gavin
Report's Americana radio chart. 

The album contains some real gems. Kelly Willis nails "That's How I
Got to Memphis"--the last track commissioned since, Linn admits, he'd
held the tune for Lucinda Williams, who had promised to contribute and
whose father, poet Miller Williams, is friends with Hall. (Williams was
busy recording her notoriously perfect record, Car Wheels on a Gravel
Road.) Syd Straw and the Skeletons rip through "Harper Valley P.T.A.,"
Freedy Johnston turns the trucker song "Coffee, Coffee, Coffee" into a
countrypolitan ballad complete with Floyd Cramer-style piano, and
Calexico gives the mariachi treatment to "Tulsa Telephone Book," which
contains the irresistible couplet "I was in Tulsa and didn't have
anything going / She lived in Tulsa and didn't have anything on."

Despite some less interesting musical cuts, lines like that one keep
the 17-song collection a head or two above the everlasting flood of
tribute albums. Hall's narratives are rich with small, telling details
and his flawed characters are presented without prejudice; his
ecumenical prose frees the singers to interpret the songs as they see
fit, without worrying about measuring up to some "definitive"
performance. Henry does quirky justice to "Homecoming," the story of a
touring country singer who drops in on his father 

Charles Wolfe's health?

1999-02-18 Thread Shane S. Rhyne

Howdy,

I'm only just now getting to the P2 posts about Dr. Wolfe's ill health.
Several folks on the staff here at ETHS studied under him at one time or
another at MTSU and I'm a big fan of his research. We're curious how he's
getting along.

Feel free to contact me off-list with information.

Take care,

Shane Rhyne
Knoxville, TN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

NP: Billy Bremner




Re: Damnations NY

1999-02-18 Thread Christopher M Knaus

Hey there,

Smilin Jim answers Todd
Todd Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked of the Damnations TX:
Ah, home..anyone know where in New York they're from?

They’re from Cobleskill, up near Albany, although I had heard they 
used to live in Binghamton.

I'll provide verification of that - was chatting with 'em before their
show at Stubbs w/ Kelly Willis thanksgiving of 97. Was delighted to find
out they spent some time in my hometown. Binghamton, that is. I'm
actually from Endwell, but that's right across the river. You see there's
the triple cities of Binghamton, Endicott and Johnson City and Endwell is
sorta part of Endicott - right next to it, but the mailing address is
Endwell even though I went to Union Endicott High School, and, erm, where
was I?

Oh yeah, there's from around Albany.

Later...
CK
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The Boudin Barndance Playlist - 2/18/99

1999-02-18 Thread BoudinDan

The Boudin Barndance - 2/18/99
Dan Ferguson
WRIU-FM, 90.3 Kingston, RI
Thursdays 6-9 pm

NEA fallout dominated tonight's opening set.  Also went West for a set
(inspired by some great performances by Cisco  the Reasons Why and Mark
Insley down at NEA).  Also previewed the Cajun  Zydeco Mardi Gras Ball
happenin' at a monstrous ballroom here in R.I. on Saturday night.  Lots of new
stuff too.   First-time Barndance spins this evening included new stuff from
Vince Bell (thank you Sarah!), the Waco Brothers, the Bad Livers reissue, the
very hot duo of Dave Biller  Jeremy Wakefield, Balfa Toujours, Chris Ardoin 
Double Clutchin', and the various artists compilation "West Texas Bop."  Butt-
Shaker of the night?  "Tiffany Two-Step" from Chris Ardoin Double Clutchin'.
Onto the goods

Buck Owens, et al/ Buckaroo / Box Set / Rhino   (intro)

.. NEA FALL-OUT .
Vince Bell / All Through My Days / Texas Plates (One Man's Music)
Geoff Muldaur / Someday Baby / The Secret Handshake (Hightone)
Lonesome Bob / Plans We Made / Things Fall Apart (#Past)
Allison Moorer / Set You Free / Alabama Song (MCA)
Jim Roll / Old Love / ready to Hang (OMC)

Dave Alvin / (I Won't Be) Leaving / King of California (Hightone)
Josh Rouse / Suburban Sweetheart / Dressed Up Like Nebraska (Slow River)
Silos / Mom Out Dancing / Heater (#Past)
Waco Bros / The Hand that Throws the Bottle Down / WacoWorld (Bloodshot)
Bad Livers / Precious Memories / Dust on the Bible (1/4stick)

go west!! 
Merle Haggard / Look Over Me / Sing Me Back Home (KOCH)
Dwight Yoakam / Bury Me / Guitars, Cadillacs, etc, etc (Reprise)
Cisco / Bad Man / Wishing You Well from the Pink Motel (Propellant
Transmission)
Mark Insley / 6 Feet Under / Good Country Junk (CTM)
Jorgenson  Maddox / No Better Place / The Moon is Rising (CTM)
Sammy Masters / Help You Dream / Everybody Digs (Dionysus)
Biller  Wakefield / Siamese Strings / The Hot Guitars of ... (HMG)

..happy 85th pee wee!!.
Pee Wee King / Birmingham Bounce / Rompin' Stompin' Singin' Swingin' (Bear
Family)

Bobby Bare / When the Wind Blows (In Chicago) / Best of (RT)
Webb Pierce / Love, Love, Love / The Wondering Boy (Bear Family)
Skeets McDonald / I'm Sorry to Say I'm Sorry / Don't Let the Stars Get in Your
Eyes (Bear Family)
Spade Cooley / Guess I've Been Dreaming / Spadella (Legacy)
Ernest Tubb / Pass the Booze / Waltz Across Texas (Bear Family)
Loretta Lynn / Honky Tonk Girl / Honk Tonk Girl (MCA)
Webb Pierce / Honky Tonk Song / The Wondering Boy (Bear Family)

Faron Young / It's a Great Life / Live Fast Love Hard (CMF)
Sonny West / Sweet Rockin'  Baby / West Texas Bop (Ace)
Bobby Sisco / Honky Tonk Rhythm / Get With the Beat: Marvel Masters (Ryko)
Tiny Harris / Double Clutchin' Truck Line / Overloaded Diesel (Gusto)
Sonny George / The Truck Stops Here / Truckin' Country (SpinOut)
The Sovines / High-Ballin' the Jack / Owner-Operator (Semi-Tone)
Tom Leach / Tire / Live (Slow River)

Chris Ardoin, et al / Tiffany Two-Step / Turn the Page (Rounder)
Steve Riley, et al / King Zydeco / Bayou Ruler (Rounder)
Steve Riley, et al / Mardi Gras Jig / 'tit Galop Pour Mamou (Rounder)
Balfa Toujours / Marshall's Club / La Pointe (Rounder)
Bois Sec Ardoin  Balfa Toujours / Sundown Special / Allons Danser (Rounder)
Chris Ardoin, et al / Double Clutchin' Old Style / Turn the Page (Rounder)
Lawrence "Black" Ardoin / Tu Le Ton Son Ton /  his French Band (Arhoolie)

Burton  Mooney / Corn Pickin' / Legends of Country Guitar / Rhino  (outro)


Enjoy.
Boudin Dan

N.P. - Rex Allen 




Re: matt cook -- performance artist

1999-02-18 Thread Matt Cook

James Gerard Roll wrote:
 
 Admit it Matt.  You are not really a Gourds' fan at all, are you??
 C'mon?? 

I like The Gourds.
Enough to make a movie about them.

I have the sneaking suspician that, in the grand tradition of Andy
 Kaufman, et al. you have decided to deconstruct fandom by creating the
 absolute most obnoxious fan you or anyone can imagine.
 

How am I obnoxious?
I really wanna know.  'Cause in real life I try not to be.  On the
internet and in my other writings, I'm not sure that applies.
The narrator is not always the author.

 Your real genius (c'mon admit it) is that you have exploited the internet
 and become the first ever virtual performance artist.  You aim to make
 those of us who are still salvageable - aware of the absurdity of
 identifying with a band or any musical movement and you have chosen our
 humble little cult to beging tyhe Cook Revisionist movement.

I do say things on here I would never say on public (unless completely
plastered).
And I know I probably shouldn't.
Identify?
What does that mean?
I could never make music like The Gourds, and I would never try.
I like it, though.
Those guys have helped me a lot in a lot of ways.

 
 I salute you good sir.  Matt Cook.  You have captured Beatlemania
 (lightning in a bottle!!) and thrown it back at another generation in a
 brilliant stunt and stuffed history back in its black whole.

The Beatles were a great band.  Their fans don't really enter into that
fact in my mind.

 
 gourds.  gourds. gourdS. gourDS. gouRDS. goURDS. gOURDS. GOURDS. GOURDS!!
 
 ha ha.  oh Matt, please let us in on the joke.

The joke is all at my expense, believe me.
I've spent a year of my life on this movie, and  it's not finished yet.

 
 I know you won't.  But breathe easy for we are one step closer to
 freedom from bondage.
 
 Matt Cook.  Performance Artist.  Liberator!

I hope that there are more people as stupid as I am.

--Matt Cook



Re: matt cook -- performance artist

1999-02-18 Thread James Gerard Roll



On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Matt Cook wrote:

 How am I obnoxious?

well not obnoxious in a bad way . . . perhaps it should rather be said
that you are remarkably consistant and persistant.

 The narrator is not always the author.

thus my performance artist theory!!  g

 The joke is all at my expense, believe me.
 I've spent a year of my life on this movie, and  it's not finished yet.

well maybe it is more fun to not finish it??

my earlier post was more sarcastic than I intended . . . it's just that
your love for the gourds is like water seeping into every potential p2
crack/opening . . . and that is a rare (but often times endearing)
mindset.

-jim