Delaying eth0

2000-07-31 Thread Jonathan Sailor



When I try to activate eth0 using linuxconf, 
netcfg, netconf, or ifup in RedHat 6.1, I get a message: "Delaying eth0 
Initalization". For some reason, linuxconf and netcfg think eth0 is configured, 
but ifconfig -a doesn't list it. What is also strange is that it worked fine, I 
configured ppp, brought up ppp1, and browsed Yahoo on the computer. Then I 
telneted in via eth0 to the machine, piped X and started netscape on AltaVista. 
Everything worked fine. I disconnected from ppp1 and shut down. Next time I 
boot, I have the above mentioned problem. If anybody can help, please do, as I 
have trying to get both to work since Dec. Regards, 
JES


Announcing Red Hat Linux Pinstripe - a Beta release

2000-07-31 Thread Matt Wilson

Announcing...

 Red Hat Linux "Pinstripe"
   a Beta release

Red Hat. Inc. presents a beta release of Red Hat Linux for your
hacking pleasure.  First, the regular drill:

   This is a beta release of Red Hat Linux.  It is not intended for
   mission critical applications.  It's not even intended for
   non-mission critical applications.  Important data should not be
   entrusted to Pinstripe, as it may eat it and make loud belching
   noises.

Significant changes have been made since the last version of Red Hat
Linux.  We need your help to find and report bugs.  Search for
existing bug reports for problems you find by using bugzilla at:

  http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/

Attach patches if you're motivated!

This beta includes so much cutting edge software, the binary packages
come on two iso images.  The installation program now handles reading
packages from multiple CDs.

*  Where can I get this release?

Pinstripe can be downloaded from our public FTP site at:

   ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/beta/pinstripe

With the support of volunteers ftp site administrators, Pinstripe is
available from several mirrors.  The following have complete copies of
Pinstripe, please use a mirror close to you:

North Carolina, USA:
  ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/redhat/beta/pinstripe/
  http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

California, USA:
  ftp://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/redhat/redhat/beta/pinstripe/
  http://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/redhat/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

California, USA:
  ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/mirrors/redhat/redhat/beta/pinstripe/
  http://www.kernel.org/pub/mirrors/redhat/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

Connecticut, USA:
  ftp://ftp.uselinux.org/pub/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

Indiana, USA:
  ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/redhat/beta/pinstripe/
  http://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

Michigan, USA:
  ftp://mrhankey.bizserve.com/pub/linux/redhat/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

New York, USA:
  ftp://ftp.ee.cornell.edu/pub/linux/redhat/beta/pinstripe

Pennsylvania, USA:
  ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/redhat/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

Pennsylvania, USA:
  ftp://cronus.res.cmu.edu/pub/linux/ftp.redhat.com/beta/pinstripe/

Tennessee, USA:
  ftp://sunsite.utk.edu/pub/linux/redhat/redhat/beta/pinstripe/
  http://sunsite.utk.edu/ftp/pub/linux/redhat/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

Australia:
  ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/redhat/beta/pinstripe/
  http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

Germany:
  ftp://ftp.gmd.de/mirrors/redhat.com/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

Germany:
  ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/linux/redhat/beta/pinstripe/
  http://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/linux/redhat/beta/pinstripe/
  
Norway:
  (ISO images only)
  ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/redhat/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

Peru:
  ftp://sajino.terra.com.pe/pub/linux/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

Japan:
  ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/Linux/packages/RedHat/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

*  What's new in this beta?

   General system improvements:
 o FHS compliant packaging of files
   /usr/man is now /usr/share/man
   /usr/doc is now /usr/share/doc
   /usr/info is now /usr/share/info
   See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ for more information

 o Document roots for Apache and anonymous FTP are removed from
   /home so it may be automounted.

 o Packages with services are automatically restarted on live
   upgrades

 o Expanded LDAP integration

 o Expanded Kerberos integration

   Core system components:
 o glibc 2.1.91
 o XFree86 4.0.1, XFree86 4.0.1 runtime environment
 o XFree86 3.3.6 X servers included for maximum hardware compatibility
 o GNOME 1.2
 o kernel 2.2.16
 o GCC 2.96

   Expanded hardware support: 
 o Basic USB support (mouse and keyboards)
 o Expanded hardware accelerated 3-D support

   System service changes:
 o inetd replaced by xinetd
 o BSD lpr replaced by LPRng

   A sampling of package upgrades:
 o GIMP 1.1.24
 o Perl 5.6.0
 o Tcl/Tk 8.3.1

   A sampling of Package additions:
 o SDL, smpeg
 o SANE
 o gphoto
 o MySQL
 o AbiWord
 o dia
 o ispell has been replaced by aspell
 o XEmacs

   Next generation development library previews included:
 o pango: Unicode font rendering
   See http://www.pango.org/
 o Inti: C++ foundation libraries including GTK+ GUI toolkit classes
   See http://sources.redhat.com/inti/

Enjoy!

The OS Development Team
Red Hat, Inc.



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Re: Announcing Red Hat Linux Pinstripe - a Beta release

2000-07-31 Thread Matt Wilson

Of course, I forgot something in the announcement:

There is a mailing list for discussing pinstripe.  To join, send a
message to:

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

with the subject of "subscribe".

I'm looking forward to much discussion there!

Cheers,

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RE: Announcing Red Hat Linux Pinstripe - a Beta release

2000-07-31 Thread Jesse Noller

Has it hit the priority ftp servers @ redhat yet?

-Original Message-
From: Matt Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 9:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Announcing Red Hat Linux "Pinstripe" - a Beta release


Of course, I forgot something in the announcement:

There is a mailing list for discussing pinstripe.  To join, send a
message to:

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

with the subject of "subscribe".

I'm looking forward to much discussion there!

Cheers,

Matt



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Re: bash programming..

2000-07-31 Thread John Summerfield

 Is there an easy way using bash INTERNALS to do the following:
 
 Read in a file containing two numbers on one line separated by
 space, and replace the whitespace between them with a ":"?
 
 I'm trying to optimize some stuff in a script and trying to get
 rid of awk/sed/perl calls that are unnecessary.
 
 The input file contains:
 
 2345 5678
 
 I'd like something along the lines of:
 
 DATA=${blahblash}  /somefile
 
 Where ${blahblash} is one of the confusing bash constructs called
 parameter expansion or whatever..
 
 I just don't grok the bash manpage and the usage of parameter
 expansion.
 
 What I'd like though is this one liner to transform stdin from:
 
 2345 5678 into: 2345:5678
 
 The amount of whitespace in between the two numbers in the input
 file may vary.  ie:
 
 23455678
 
 Any ideas?  I'm using the following right now:

You can do it in bash-2. However, I really think sed will prove faster.

For advanced bashing, I recommend you get a fishy (looks to me like some kind 
of perch) book from oreilly's.





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Re: bash programming..

2000-07-31 Thread noltie

On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 04:44:52AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
  
  Any ideas?  I'm using the following right now:
 
 You can do it in bash-2. However, I really think sed will prove faster.
 
 For advanced bashing, I recommend you get a fishy (looks to me like some kind 
 of perch) book from oreilly's.

It's not a perch! For bash it's a bass. :-)

Fred

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Re: bash programming..

2000-07-31 Thread noltie

On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 04:10:43PM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote:
 Is there an easy way using bash INTERNALS to do the following:
 
 Read in a file containing two numbers on one line separated by
 space, and replace the whitespace between them with a ":"?
 
 I'm trying to optimize some stuff in a script and trying to get
 rid of awk/sed/perl calls that are unnecessary.
 
 The input file contains:
 
 2345 5678

try something like this:

$ zz="23455678"
$ echo ${zz%% *}:${zz##* }
2345:5678

I tried fiddling with tabs in the whitespace but couldn't figure it
out, so I don't know if that will work or not. If it's just spaces,
this might work for you.

The '%%' deletes everything that matches the pattern (in this case, a
space followed by anything) from the end of the variable's value.

The '##' does the opposite: deletes anything (followed by a space)
from the beginning of the variable's value.

HTH

HAND

Fred

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Re: bash programming..

2000-07-31 Thread Mike A. Harris

On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, John Summerfield wrote:

 Any ideas?  I'm using the following right now:

You can do it in bash-2. However, I really think sed will prove faster.

Hmm.. Well, I'd rather stick to bash/sed than bash2.  If it isn't
possible with bash alone, then I'll do that.  It is possible that
the scripting will require sed anyways so it isn't a major
issue.  I'm just wanting to minimalize external stuff when
internal stuff can be used instead.  Trying to build up better
scripting skills basically.

For advanced bashing, I recommend you get a fishy (looks to me
like some kind of perch) book from oreilly's.

Yes, I've been wanting to get that book for a while.  I guess now
would be a good time.  ;o)

TTYL

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Re: I think really need some help! (Redhat 6.1)

2000-07-31 Thread Stephen L Arnold

On 30 Jul 00, at 22:09, linda hanigan wrote:

 snip
  My question is: How can I change the resolution to (at least)
  800x600x70?
  
  I've allready tried the Xconfigurator, but it just gives back a
  lot of errors. And when I skip all the tests, X Windows refuses to
  start up and
 .snip
 I got my screen resolution up to 600 X 800 by playing
 with the values in 
 /etc/X11/XF86Config
 for some reason the setup set horizonal sync to 31.5
 In my case the value of 30-70 worked well.
 When I tried the full range that the monitor could handle
 I did not like the results so I cut it back to this.

You should always use the correct settings for your monitor.  If 
you don't like the highest resolution, then change the list of 
modes in the appropriate screen section (this is just an example):

# The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, 
# W32, Mach64 I128, and S3V)
Section "Screen"
Driver  "accel"
Device  "My Video Card"
Monitor "ViewSonic 15ES"
Subsection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "800x600" "640x480"
^^^
ViewPort0 0
Virtual 800 600
EndSubsection
EndSection

Add the modes you want to use, in the order you want them to come 
up, up to the highest resolution you can use comfortably.  Then set 
the 'virtual' setting to the same as the highest in your list of 
modes (unless you *like* a larger virtual desktop).  I use the 
pager and virtual desktops in E instead...

Steve


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Printer port locked

2000-07-31 Thread Jack Bowling

Just bought an Epson Stylus Color 860 bubblejet printer and attempted to
set it up on my RH6.1/kernel 2.2.14 box. First of all, I tried the generic
800 series drivers in printtool and they worked fine for text but barfed on
any postscript file. I then checked sourceforge for any updated drivers and
lo and behold, there was one for the gimp-print module. So I installed that
and Wham!, beautiful printing from the Gimp. Then I read the README in the
Ghost directory in the print source and it gave instructions on how to get
it into ghostscript. So after downloading the gs 6.01 source, adding the
patches and moving the header files over as detailed in the readme, I gave
the compile a spin. After several aborts due to either my spelling mistakes
in the make files or just general weirdness (it did not like one of the
Brother drivers so i just scrubbed that one), I finally had an stp driver
compiled into my ghostscript. After changing my environment paths to match
the newly installed gs6.01, I was set. Or so I thought..

Unfortunately, I could not get any postscript file to print from the
command line using the new setup. Not sure what i botched but I will have
to wait for a bit to figure it out. The reason being is that I have run
into the age old RH problem of printtool not seeing any ports when trying
to configure a printer so I can't even get back to the older ESC drivers. I
thought Bill Nottingham fixed this way back in October. Does anyone know
the "secret handshake" procedure for unlocking the ports so that printtool
can see them? I have tried tunelp but to no avail.

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Re: Epson Stylus Color 740

2000-07-31 Thread Stephen L Arnold

On 31 Jul 00, at 1:07, Cindy Pearce wrote:

 I had this printer working beautifully in RH 6.1. I updated to RH
 6.2 and now it refuses to work. I have been through all the
 resources I can find, specifically Bert Havercamp, Michael Holve,
 Grant Taylor and the Printing HOWTO. I had VMware for Linux Version
 2.0 installed and running as well on 6.1.

Are you sure your parallel port is being recognized properly?  Did 
you do the RH upgrade?  I just had a disastrous "upgrade" from 6.1 
to 6.2, and I had to re-install 6.2 from scratch.

Verify your lp modules are loading correctly (try a different 
device if you have to).  You may need to specify the device 
parameters (IRQ, I/O port) in your conf.modules file.  You can also 
build your kernel with lp support, but if you want to use some 
other device like a zip drive, then you must compile both as 
modules.  Try and cat a text file directly to the port, then a 
simple script, etc.  If it worked before, it ought to work again...

HTH, Steve


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Re: Less on 6.2

2000-07-31 Thread Bob Taylor

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.com, "M
ikkel L. Ellertson" writes:
cc:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Bob Taylor wrote:
 
  Anyone know the secret to get less to display in its own "window" (it 
  doesn't write on the xterm). As far as I can see it's not in the man 
  page. This is one of the "little" things that bugs me.
  
  TIA
  
  Bob
  
  
 If I understand you correctly, you would like less to open a new window,
 instead of its output showing up in the xterm you typed the command on, or
 you have it as a menu command in X, and it doesn't work.

Sorry this is not what I want. I'm not sure how to explain it better. 
I type less somefile in an xterm OR console and less does not 
actually write on the xterm/console. In other words when I exit less 
what it has printed disappears leaving my screen the same way it was 
before I typed less.

Less worked this way in 5.2. What I want to know is how can I get 
this behavior back?

TIA

Bob

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Re: Less on 6.2

2000-07-31 Thread Gordon Messmer

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Bob Taylor wrote:
 Sorry this is not what I want. I'm not sure how to explain it better. 
 I type less somefile in an xterm OR console and less does not 
 actually write on the xterm/console. In other words when I exit less 
 what it has printed disappears leaving my screen the same way it was 
 before I typed less.

Less should work that way in an xterm or some other X based terminals, but
does _not_ work that way on the Linux console.  xterm has a special
feature, where it actually has two buffers for output.  The Linux console
does not.

If your xterm is not functioning properly, check the $TERM variable, and
look for a .termcap (or was that .terminfo??) file in your home dir.

MSG



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Re: Less on 6.2

2000-07-31 Thread Gregory Hosler


On 31-Jul-00 Bob Taylor wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 .com, "M
 ikkel L. Ellertson" writes:
 cc:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Bob Taylor wrote:
 
  Anyone know the secret to get less to display in its own "window" (it 
  doesn't write on the xterm). As far as I can see it's not in the man 
  page. This is one of the "little" things that bugs me.
  
  TIA
  
  Bob
  
  
 If I understand you correctly, you would like less to open a new window,
 instead of its output showing up in the xterm you typed the command on, or
 you have it as a menu command in X, and it doesn't work.
 
 Sorry this is not what I want. I'm not sure how to explain it better. 
 I type less somefile in an xterm OR console and less does not 
 actually write on the xterm/console. In other words when I exit less 
 what it has printed disappears leaving my screen the same way it was 
 before I typed less.
 
 Less worked this way in 5.2. What I want to know is how can I get 
 this behavior back?


hmm... I'm using RH6.2, and less is working exactly as you're describing.
My TERM is set as "xterm".

-Greg


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Qmail POP3 Error

2000-07-31 Thread Anthony P

i'm install qmail for my servermail. from outlook
express, a can send mail with smtp to my server, but i
can't reciev with pop3. when i'm running pop3 daemon,
i found error :
-
hard error
pop2d  running  done
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help me please ...


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Re: Less on 6.2

2000-07-31 Thread Jim Simmons

Try this if you're using bash:

export LESS=-X

You'll need to put it in your .bash_profile or .bashrc to make it permanent.

Jim

On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 11:59:56PM -0700, Bob Taylor wrote:

 Sorry this is not what I want. I'm not sure how to explain it better. 
 I type less somefile in an xterm OR console and less does not 
 actually write on the xterm/console. In other words when I exit less 
 what it has printed disappears leaving my screen the same way it was 
 before I typed less.
 
 Less worked this way in 5.2. What I want to know is how can I get 
 this behavior back?
 
 TIA
 
 Bob


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Re: Help - NMBD issue

2000-07-31 Thread Tundra

I have tried starting the nmbd and daemons via the command line (i.e. /usr/sbin/smbd 
-D, /usr/sbin/nmbd -D)as well as through /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb.

In each case, smbd starts appropriately.
Nmbd, however, starts up *two* daemons in each case. This totally screws with my 
configuration.

I have tried reinstalling and that did not help.

Any thoughts or ideas please?

Regards,

T 


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Re: Somebody's knocking...

2000-07-31 Thread Brian Ashe

Hi Thomas,

The first way to tell if you were compromised is if you can still log in.
Most root kits replace /bin/login. If for some reason your hacker did not,
you can also do a ls -alc /bin to see if any thing floats to the top. If
a root kit was installed the dates wont match and you will at least see ps
move to the top.

If all of your updates are done, they most likely didn't get in.

Have fun,
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Monday, July 31, 2000, 9:13:49 AM, you wrote:

BTG Looks like someone was knocking...  Is there any way to tell if they got in?

BTG ## LogWatch 1.6.6 Begin # 


BTG  - Cron Begin  
BTG Commands Run:
BTGUser root:
BTG  /sbin/rmmod -as: 144 Time(s)
BTG   run-parts /etc/cron.daily: 1 Time(s)
BTG   run-parts /etc/cron.hourly: 24 Time(s)


BTG  -- Cron End - 



BTG  - ftpd-messages Begin  

BTG Anonymous FTP Logins:
BTG24.64.182.188.on.wave.home.com (24.64.182.188):
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Re: which file switches window manger?

2000-07-31 Thread John Aldrich

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, ktb wrote:
 I hosed gnome trying to install helix, it complains about not finding a
 fixed font.  My X session defaults to gnome when I use 'startx'.  I'm
 thinking if I could switch the window manager to kde while in console, then
 I could at least get X back.  This is my machine I use at work.  How can I
 get this done?  I'm using 6.2.

From console, type "switchdesk"
John


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Re: Less on 6.2

2000-07-31 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Bob Taylor wrote:
 Sorry this is not what I want. I'm not sure how to explain it better. 
 I type less somefile in an xterm OR console and less does not 
 actually write on the xterm/console. In other words when I exit less 
 what it has printed disappears leaving my screen the same way it was 
 before I typed less.
 
 Less worked this way in 5.2. What I want to know is how can I get 
 this behavior back?
 
Hmm...I'm on 6.2 and it works for me. Sounds like you messed
something up on your system, and I'm not sure what that would be.
John


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Help! Network stopped working!

2000-07-31 Thread John Aldrich

My linux box at home is a dual-PPro motherboard (only uni-processor
right now -- 2nd CPU died) with a built-in 10/100 Intel EtherExpress
NIC. 
For some reason it has stopped seeing the network. My *guess* since I
can ping the box from another machine is that somehow it got set to
100 Megabit-only from 10/100 (only have 10 Mbit network.)

The other wierdness is that it doesn't show a default gateway when I
type "route" at the command line. However, my linux box here at work
DOES show the default route. When I open up netcfg or linuxconf, it
shows the default route just fine.

any ideas???
Thanks...


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Re: which file switches window manger?

2000-07-31 Thread Steve Borho

On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 10:32:31PM -0500, ktb wrote:
 I hosed gnome trying to install helix, it complains about not finding a
 fixed font.  My X session defaults to gnome when I use 'startx'.  I'm
 thinking if I could switch the window manager to kde while in console, then
 I could at least get X back.  This is my machine I use at work.  How can I
 get this done?  I'm using 6.2.

If X can't find a fixed font, then switching window managers isn't
going to fix anything.

Most likely, your font server (xfs) is no longer running.  Once you
figure out why and get it working again, you can run any window
manager you want (GNOME included).

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CD-RW drive suggestion needed

2000-07-31 Thread Vidiot

I'm looking for a SCSI CD-RW drive that is at least capable of writing
CD-R media at x8, preferrably faster.  I'm also looking for a drive that
will do CD-Text.  That probably narrowed the list to zero.

Thanks, in advance.

MB
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Re: Less on 6.2

2000-07-31 Thread Steve Borho

On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 11:59:56PM -0700, Bob Taylor wrote:
 Sorry this is not what I want. I'm not sure how to explain it better. 
 I type less somefile in an xterm OR console and less does not 
 actually write on the xterm/console. In other words when I exit less 
 what it has printed disappears leaving my screen the same way it was 
 before I typed less.
 
 Less worked this way in 5.2. What I want to know is how can I get 
 this behavior back?

Check the less man page.  This is a command line option.

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Re: Less on 6.2

2000-07-31 Thread Bret Hughes

Jim Simmons wrote:

 Try this if you're using bash:

 export LESS=-X

 You'll need to put it in your .bash_profile or .bashrc to make it permanent.

 Jim

I have wondered about this my self.  The LESS=-X works but why?  What is
reading this variable xterm. less, sonething else?  Just curious.

Bret


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Re: Qmail POP3 Error

2000-07-31 Thread redhat

On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 03:51:54AM -0700, Anthony P wrote:

Hi,

 i'm install qmail for my servermail. from outlook
 express, a can send mail with smtp to my server, but i
 can't reciev with pop3. when i'm running pop3 daemon,
 i found error :

Try the qmail list.

Give more detail of what instalation you followed

You find good info on 
http://Web.InfoAve.net/~dsill/lwq.html

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Re: Help! Network stopped working!

2000-07-31 Thread Bret Hughes

John Aldrich wrote:

 My linux box at home is a dual-PPro motherboard (only uni-processor
 right now -- 2nd CPU died) with a built-in 10/100 Intel EtherExpress
 NIC.
 For some reason it has stopped seeing the network. My *guess* since I
 can ping the box from another machine is that somehow it got set to
 100 Megabit-only from 10/100 (only have 10 Mbit network.)


I don't know for sure but I would be suprised if even ping would work if
there was a 10/100 MB confusion.


 The other wierdness is that it doesn't show a default gateway when I
 type "route" at the command line. However, my linux box here at work
 DOES show the default route. When I open up netcfg or linuxconf, it
 shows the default route just fine.

What is the purpose of this machine?  Is it your gateway/ firewall/ masq
box or just a workstation.  I don't think you need a default route if
there is only eth0 as an interface (i.e. workstation).  You will need a
gateway entry if you need to access the Internet though another box.  You
should see a net route for the network of the interface.  What does route
-n and ifconfig show?

What is the behavior that you are looking for that tells you that the
network is down?

if you can ping the box can you ping the other box from this one?

Any ipchains rules?   All these are where I would begin.

Bret


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Re: Somebody's knocking...

2000-07-31 Thread Juan Martinez

The command to check /bin by modtime is: "ls -altc /bin"

The man page says you need the -t with -c if you want to see
things "float to the top" by ctime instead of by name.


Juan

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-- Anonymous

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Brian Ashe wrote:

 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:52:13 -0400
 From: Brian Ashe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Burke, Thomas G." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Somebody's knocking...
 Resent-Date: 31 Jul 2000 14:53:19 -
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ;
 
 Hi Thomas,
 
 The first way to tell if you were compromised is if you can still log in.
 Most root kits replace /bin/login. If for some reason your hacker did not,
 you can also do a ls -alc /bin to see if any thing floats to the top. If
 a root kit was installed the dates wont match and you will at least see ps
 move to the top.
 
 If all of your updates are done, they most likely didn't get in.
 
 Have fun,
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  http://www.dee-web.com/
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 Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security,
 will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.
 
 Monday, July 31, 2000, 9:13:49 AM, you wrote:
 
 BTG Looks like someone was knocking...  Is there any way to tell if they got in?
 
 BTG ## LogWatch 1.6.6 Begin # 
 
 
 BTG  - Cron Begin  
 BTG Commands Run:
 BTGUser root:
 BTG  /sbin/rmmod -as: 144 Time(s)
 BTG   run-parts /etc/cron.daily: 1 Time(s)
 BTG   run-parts /etc/cron.hourly: 24 Time(s)
 
 
 BTG  -- Cron End - 
 
 
 
 BTG  - ftpd-messages Begin  
 
 BTG Anonymous FTP Logins:
 BTG24.64.182.188.on.wave.home.com (24.64.182.188):
 BTG 
 BTG 
 BTG 
 BTG 
 BTG 1À1Û1É°FÍEUR1À1ÛC?ÙA°?ÍEURëk^1À1É
 BTG ^^A^F^Df¹ÿ^A°'ÍEUR1À^^A°=ÍEUR1À1ۍ^^H?C^B1ÉþÉ1À^^H°^LÍEURþÉuó1À^F^I^^H°=
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Re: Help! Network stopped working!

2000-07-31 Thread Jake McHenry

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Bret Hughes wrote:

--I don't know for sure but I would be suprised if even ping would work if
--there was a 10/100 MB confusion.


that's right. If you have a 10 meg network, and try to link up at 100 meg,
the link lights normally will blink, or just not come on at all. It will work
the other way, connect at 10 meg on 100 meg network.


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ssh hangs for several minutes

2000-07-31 Thread Bret Hughes

I have been experiencing intermittant problems with a vpn
ppp connection through ssh.  I can be working along (typing
in a terminal) and then poof, no response for several
minuites.  during this time I can sometimes ping the box and
others the delay is there as well.  I can't figure out what
is causing this.  I don't know if the packets are getting
dropped on the floor or what.

I am dialing into mindspring via ppp with my linux laptop.
Ifconfig shows no errors on any interface on either box, and
nothing suspicious in the firewall logs except the modprobe
entries below.

Jul 31 10:40:17 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
ppp-compress-21
Jul 31 10:40:17 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
ppp-compress-26
Jul 31 10:40:17 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
ppp-compress-24
Jul 31 10:40:18 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
ppp-compress-21
Jul 31 10:40:18 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
ppp-compress-26
Jul 31 10:40:19 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
ppp-compress-24
Jul 31 10:40:19 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
ppp-compress-26
Jul 31 10:40:20 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
ppp-compress-24
Jul 31 10:40:20 tulfw1 pppd[30148]: found interface eth0 for
proxy arp
Jul 31 10:40:20 tulfw1 pppd[30148]: local  IP address
192.168.0.30
Jul 31 10:40:20 tulfw1 pppd[30148]: remote IP address
192.168.0.28
Jul 31 10:40:20 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
ppp-compress-21

when I bring the vpn interface up.  I have ignored these but
perhaps I should not?

I suspected that the problem was in mindspring's network but
I can hit other websites from my laptop  when this is
occurring with no problems.

Any Ideas?  I have not tried to reboot the box yet. It has
been up about 30 days and top shows very little cpu usage
during this time.

Anything else I can check before rebooting and seeing if it
helps?  I have restarted the network but no help.

Bret


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Re: Help! Network stopped working!

2000-07-31 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Bret Hughes wrote:
 What is the purpose of this machine?  Is it your gateway/ firewall/ masq
 box or just a workstation.  I don't think you need a default route if
 there is only eth0 as an interface (i.e. workstation).  You will need a
 gateway entry if you need to access the Internet though another box.  You
 should see a net route for the network of the interface.  What does route
 -n and ifconfig show?

Workstation. I access the "outside world" through a Netgear ISDN
router. I have a couple other machines on the LAN, one of which is
right next to the linux box on my desktop. I can ping the linux box
from the windows box and I can surf the 'Net through the Netgear on
the Windows box, but nothing works on the linux box.

 What is the behavior that you are looking for that tells
 you that the network is down?
 
Can't ping anything outside of my linux box. I try to ping the
Netgear and get no response. I try to ping my windows machine and
no response. Everything goes out, but nothing comes in.

 if you can ping the box can you ping the other box
 from this one? 

Nope. It tries, but gets no response.

 Any ipchains rules?   All these are where I would begin.
 
I don't think so. I vaguely recall setting up an ipchains rule to
block the IP of the primary web banner-ad company, but I don't recall
if I set it up to be automagically started or not. In any event, that
shouldn't affect my internal network (192.168.0.x addressing NAT-ed
behind the Netgear ISDN router.) I was thinking there was a problem
with the Netgear until I was able to ping it and surf through it to
the 'Net from the Windows machine.

I don't know what route -n says, haven't checked that yet, but on my
AMD k6 box here at work, "route" by itself shows the existing routes.
Ifconfig eth0 shows the "normal" stuff, as I recall. I don't have
that machine set up and hooked up to a monitor at the moment...
Hoping someone can recognize the symptoms. Is it my other CPU flaking
out on me (had a problem booting when I had the dead CPU in the
system... it looked like a bad hard drive, so I'm wondering if a
"flaky network" might be caused by a dying processor)


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Re: Help! Network stopped working!

2000-07-31 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Jake McHenry wrote:
 On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Bret Hughes wrote:
 
 --I don't know for sure but I would be suprised if even ping would work if
 --there was a 10/100 MB confusion.
 
 
 that's right. If you have a 10 meg network, and try to link up at 100 meg,
 the link lights normally will blink, or just not come on at all. It will work
 the other way, connect at 10 meg on 100 meg network.
 
 
Hmm...I wonder if the kernel thinks (somehow) it's connected at
100MB, but the NIC itself realizes it's 10 MB? That would explain why
I can ping the linux box but the linux box can't ping out...
John


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Re: Help! Network stopped working!

2000-07-31 Thread eric clover

ICMP disabled/blocked in the firewall on the box???
mine is on my box at home and i can not ping anything and pings to the box
are blocked
eric


- Original Message -
From: "John Aldrich" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: Help! Network stopped working!


 On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Jake McHenry wrote:
  On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Bret Hughes wrote:
 
  --I don't know for sure but I would be suprised if even ping would work
if
  --there was a 10/100 MB confusion.
 
 
  that's right. If you have a 10 meg network, and try to link up at 100
meg,
  the link lights normally will blink, or just not come on at all. It will
work
  the other way, connect at 10 meg on 100 meg network.
 
 
 Hmm...I wonder if the kernel thinks (somehow) it's connected at
 100MB, but the NIC itself realizes it's 10 MB? That would explain why
 I can ping the linux box but the linux box can't ping out...
 John


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Re: su and root not the same??

2000-07-31 Thread Steve Arnold

Jamin Collins wrote:
[snip]
 
 In short, my point is that we should not get to the point of just telling
 everyone with a question that has been answered elsewhere or in a manual to
 RTFM.  I feel this is especially the case information is not provide with
 regard to which manual it is they should be reading.  Please remember that
 we all started at the bottom at one time or another.  I'm fairly sure that
 at some point in each of our experiences with Linux, there has been outside
 assistance in one form or another to help us along.  Let's not begrudge that
 help to someone else.

I understand your point (I've been there) but he *did* answer your
question (along with a few other people).  The RTFM comment is a minor
jab.  Askers of questions also need to remember to use their brains; try
DejaNews, searching through the mailing list archives, or grepping
through the text HOWTOs, or setup HtDig to index all your html docs.  I
will also agree that much of the information is distributed across some
not-so-obvious places at times, and a big part of the initial learning
curve is figuring out where to look (as well as losing the old windoze
mind-set).  A good selection of books comes in handy; O'Riley has many
good ones.  The last part is being willing to "try it and see" as an
instructor friend of mine would tell you.  I must have installed Linux a
half dozen times initially (because it was easier than fixing it).  I
seldom do that any more, though...

You actually don't have that much to look forward to; once you reach a
sufficient level of guru-dude-dom and have a question, nobody will
answer at all ;-)

 From: Vidiot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 Would anyone of you guys please explain why I can't run for example
 'ifconfig' or 'ntsysv' when I use su in a telnet session? I allways get the
 'bash: ifconfig: command not found' message. I thought that su would give
 me
 all the root rights.
 
 The su command, by itself, keeps a majority of the environment of the person
 issuing the su command.  The get the complete environment of root, you
 have to do a "su -".
 
 When all else fails, RTFM.



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Re: Intel eepro100 problem

2000-07-31 Thread Steve Arnold

Kevin Wood wrote:
 
 Has anyone else been having problems with the Intel eepro100 embedded
 NICs?  I have a few customers that have been complaining of drop-outs
 with these cards and it seems to be caused by the 2.2.16 (definite I've
 seen it myself) and the 2.2.14 (just heard this one) kernels.  I also
 had one customer try the latest and greatest driver available and 2.4
 and he said that it seems to be causing the same problems if not
 worsening them.  Anybody experience this and possibly know a fix?  Any
 help would help millions (ego trip comment...)  Thanks

Go here:

http://www.scyld.com/network/

(the new home of Donald Becker's drivers and stuff)

and check out the diagnostic stuff.  I don't think Donald wrote the
eepro driver, but there's tons of good info there on 100Mbps ethernet,
gigabit, troubleshooting, etc, on most ISA and PCI cards (and pcmcia
too).  There are updated drivers for many chipsets/cards, as well as
linux diagnostic utilities.  Not all drivers have been updated in all
distributions, and none (that I know of) ship with these utilities. 
Many of them can even replace the DOS setup software.

I just went through this with my (sort of) new Dell box at work.  I
wiped windoze and installed RH6.1 and soon discovered that my 3c905c
(tornado) card was only giving me about 400k/sec connected to a 100Mbps
switch.  The switch is a cheap one, which may not auto-negotiate
properly, but when I grabbed the diag utils from the above site, and
forced the card to 100FDx, I finally got my 6M/sec throughput. 
Apparently the kernel version may affect this stuff too (depending on
the particular driver in question).  I'd stick with the latest stable
kernel that works, but don't give up until you've tried this.

Everyone with a NIC in their Linux box (or even thinking about it)
should bookmark this site!  Sorry, but that's the fourth or fifth time
this week I've posted this stuff (but not all to this list).

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Re: free x client for windows

2000-07-31 Thread Steve Arnold

Gordon Messmer wrote:
 
  On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:55:08 -0400
   "George Lenzer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Personally, I prefer Vnc from ATT.  It's free (free beer).  I've
 
 Just to interject, VNC is free as in free speech.

And ATT just bought Olivetti Research Labs, who had already developed
VNC.

So there.

And I like both (free speech and free beer).

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Re: su and root not the same??

2000-07-31 Thread Steve Arnold

Jake McHenry wrote:

 What is such a security error with what I said? I've never done what I said, but
 about the same thing. I have root's login disabled, to I have to su to root. I
 have the . at the end of my user's path, and when I su to root, it keeps my
 paths, including the ., so I always can run the program in the current
 directory. I only su to root when I need to, don't use it for everything, hence
 why I did it this way. I've always done this. Can someone please explain to me
 why it is such a security problem? And sorry to the person that I told this to,
 if I realized this was a mistake, I wouldn't have told him to do that.

I'd like to hear a good answer on this one, too.  Although I do the
"./blah" thing for messing around with stuff in the current directory,
I'm not sure what the big deal is.  Is it just the possibility of
running something un-intended as root that's the big danger here?

Don't leave us dangling...

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Re: Did I do something dumb ? - kernel build and basic question

2000-07-31 Thread Steve Arnold

Pete Lancashire wrote:
 
 I down loaded the 2.2.16.rpm source, rpm'ed it and then
 added a patch (HighPoint 370 chip). That all went well.
 
 My real goal is to add the patch for the HighPoint IDE
 chip, and then maybe tune up and such for the K7.
 
 Before I dig out the kernel-howto, I'm using the RedHat
 guide.
 
 I did
   cd /usr/src
   redid the linux symlink to point to the new directory
   cd to /usr/src/linux
   make config  ...Y/n/M and a lot of  :)
   make dep
   make clean
   make boot .. here is where I get
 
 gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o
 scripts/split-include scripts/split-include.c
 In file included from /usr/include/errno.h:36,
  from scripts/split-include.c:26:
 /usr/include/bits/errno.h:25: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory
 make: *** [scripts/split-include] Error 1
 

This probably means your kernel source and kernel header files don't
quite match (why redhat puts them in separate rpm packages, I'm not
quite sure).  Make sure they are the same, right down to the RH revision
number.  You may have to use the --nodeps option to rpm (to force one or
the other package to install).  There's also a RedHat kernel-upgrade doc
on their site.

 The other question is in the RedHat RPM'ed kernel source is there
 the config file that matches the kernel on the CDROM ?

The first time you do a 'make config' (or whatever) it should have the
same setup as the RH install kernel.  If you use 'make menuconfig' or
'make xconfig' it will let you save the configuration to another file
before you make any changes.  Also, I usually put new kernels in
/boot/test (and leave the original there) and make sure they work right
before I make them the default.  There's a suggestion to that effect in
the kernel-HOWTO (I think).

I arrived at my kernel-upgrade process mostly through trial-and-error
(or "try it and see" :)

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Re: Help Install stalls

2000-07-31 Thread Steve Arnold

linda hanigan wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 I have an old 486 with 4 meg of ram I am trying
 to install linux on. I managed to get the floppy
 drives switched so I can now boot from a
 3 1/2" floppy it goes through all the messages
 till
 RAMDISK compressed Image Found at block 0
 then it quits. Does this mean that their isn't
 enough memory to run the installation program.
 Someone said they had linux running with 4meg
 of ram on a 386 is it a different version?
 I don't have a CD drive so I got an ISA networking
 card and hope to do a ftp installation if I ever
 get that far.

AFAIK, a minimal setup will run with 4 megs, but you'll need at least 8
to install.  I had to try it a half dozen times on an 8 meg laptop
before it actually got far enough in the install to create and activate
the swap partition.  After that, it went okay.  That was using a
Backpack CD-ROM drive; I've never tried a low-memory ftp install.  I'd
get more RAM, unless you just want to use it as a router...

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Re: Help - NMBD issue

2000-07-31 Thread Steve Arnold

Tundra wrote:
 
 I have tried starting the nmbd and daemons via the command line (i.e. /usr/sbin/smbd 
-D, /usr/sbin/nmbd -D)as well as through /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb.
 
 In each case, smbd starts appropriately.
 Nmbd, however, starts up *two* daemons in each case. This totally screws with my 
configuration.
 
 I have tried reinstalling and that did not help.
 
 Any thoughts or ideas please?

Depending on how many windoze users are logged in, you'll often see more
than one nmbd (or smbd).  I have 2 nmbd and 1 smbd showing now.  I
believe this is normal.

What does the output of testparm say?  Have you tried the various tests
in Diagnosis.txt?

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Re: Help! Network stopped working!

2000-07-31 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, eric clover wrote:
 ICMP disabled/blocked in the firewall on the box???
 mine is on my box at home and i can not ping anything and pings to the box
 are blocked
 eric
 
Well the wierd thing is it just suddenly stopped working yesterday.
It was working and then all of a sudden it stopped. The router DOES
respond to ping, etc on both sides. As I said, I can ping it from the
Windows box. Even if the Netgear router wasn't ping-able, the Windows
machine should have been. :-)
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Re: Help! Network stopped working!

2000-07-31 Thread Steve Arnold

John Aldrich wrote:
[snip]
 I don't know what route -n says, haven't checked that yet, but on my
 AMD k6 box here at work, "route" by itself shows the existing routes.
 Ifconfig eth0 shows the "normal" stuff, as I recall. I don't have
 that machine set up and hooked up to a monitor at the moment...
 Hoping someone can recognize the symptoms. Is it my other CPU flaking
 out on me (had a problem booting when I had the dead CPU in the
 system... it looked like a bad hard drive, so I'm wondering if a
 "flaky network" might be caused by a dying processor)

Go here:

http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html

and get the the following util:

Intel EtherExpress PCI Pro/100 series (including the PCI Pro10+).
eepro100-diag.c 

Try it and see what you find out (ie, force the inteface to a compatible
mode).

Steve


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Re: Help! Network stopped working!

2000-07-31 Thread Steve Arnold

John Aldrich wrote:
 
 On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, eric clover wrote:
  ICMP disabled/blocked in the firewall on the box???
  mine is on my box at home and i can not ping anything and pings to the box
  are blocked
  eric
 
 Well the wierd thing is it just suddenly stopped working yesterday.
 It was working and then all of a sudden it stopped. The router DOES
 respond to ping, etc on both sides. As I said, I can ping it from the
 Windows box. Even if the Netgear router wasn't ping-able, the Windows
 machine should have been. :-)

What is the output of ping?  Ie, is it "network unreachable" or what? 
Is your card-driver (module) loading correctly?   Does eth0 initialize
correctly?  If the answer is yes, go get that ee-pro-diag utility (and
no daudling ;)

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Re: Did I do something dumb ? - kernel build and basic question

2000-07-31 Thread Charles Galpin

 Pete Lancashire wrote:

  The other question is in the RedHat RPM'ed kernel source is there
  the config file that matches the kernel on the CDROM ?

from a freshly installed kernel rpm, run "make oldconfig" to get the
settings Red Hat used to build their kernel.

hth
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Re: OFF TOPIC@#$@# hrmmm jobs

2000-07-31 Thread Charles Galpin

Just some friendly advice regarding emails intended to help you get a job.

1. spell check
2. spell check
3. spell check

At the very least it looks like you read the letter yourself before
sending it, and may even help make you look competant.

charles :)

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

 Sigh.
 
 I know this is kinda maybe wrong, but any way...
 
 I just graduated college with a Certificate in Netowrk and Internet
 Technichan.
 
 I have a basic but firm grounding in  Linux.
 Firm grounding in windows 95/98 and DOS
 Firm grounding in Hardare.
 
 I'm wonderinf if any one knows of any jobs in their company.
 
 I am workking on gaining my CNA and NT certs sooon.
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RE: Help! Network stopped working!

2000-07-31 Thread Jeff Graves

If there's no default route listed when you issue the command
route -n, then you won't be able to ping out. If you type route you
should get 4 entries (that's what I get on all the default install
boxes i have):

DestGateMaskFlags   Int
192.168.1.2 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH  Eth0
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U   Eth0
127.0.0.1   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U   lo
0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG  Eth0

Where 192.168.1.2 would be the linux box and 192.168.1.1 is the
router. If these aren't in there it could explain why you can't ping
out but do receive pings (it can't find any a route to the address
to ping, but the windoze box has it's own routing table and can find
the linux box). Of course you may have links to multiple networks
and other things so it could look different. But the point is, to
get to the internet you need the default route and to ping other
machines on the subnet you need the 192.168.1.0 entry.

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 10:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help! Network stopped working!


My linux box at home is a dual-PPro motherboard (only uni-processor
right now -- 2nd CPU died) with a built-in 10/100 Intel EtherExpress
NIC.
For some reason it has stopped seeing the network. My *guess* since
I
can ping the box from another machine is that somehow it got set to
100 Megabit-only from 10/100 (only have 10 Mbit network.)

The other wierdness is that it doesn't show a default gateway when I
type "route" at the command line. However, my linux box here at work
DOES show the default route. When I open up netcfg or linuxconf, it
shows the default route just fine.

any ideas???
Thanks...


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Re: Intel eepro100 problem

2000-07-31 Thread sixx

there is quite a few problems with 2.2.16 and eepro100
for my base of eepro100 servers, most were able to be resolved with
the addition of the following line in the source.

#define USE_IO

At 16:56 00/07/28 -0400, you wrote:
Has anyone else been having problems with the Intel eepro100 embedded
NICs?  I have a few customers that have been complaining of drop-outs
with these cards and it seems to be caused by the 2.2.16 (definite I've
seen it myself) and the 2.2.14 (just heard this one) kernels.  I also
had one customer try the latest and greatest driver available and 2.4
and he said that it seems to be causing the same problems if not
worsening them.  Anybody experience this and possibly know a fix?  Any
help would help millions (ego trip comment...)  Thanks

Kevin Wood
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850 East Industrial Park Drive
Suite 8
Manchester, NH  03109
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RE: Help! Network stopped working!

2000-07-31 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Jeff Graves wrote:
 If there's no default route listed when you issue the command
 route -n, then you won't be able to ping out. If you type route you
 should get 4 entries (that's what I get on all the default install
 boxes i have):
 
 Dest  GateMaskFlags   Int
 192.168.1.2   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH  Eth0
 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0   255.255.255.0   U   Eth0
 127.0.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U   lo
 0.0.0.0   192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG  Eth0
 
 Where 192.168.1.2 would be the linux box and 192.168.1.1 is the
 router. If these aren't in there it could explain why you can't ping
 out but do receive pings (it can't find any a route to the address
 to ping, but the windoze box has it's own routing table and can find
 the linux box). Of course you may have links to multiple networks
 and other things so it could look different. But the point is, to
 get to the internet you need the default route and to ping other
 machines on the subnet you need the 192.168.1.0 entry.
 
Yeah. I only get the top three when I type "route." For some reason,
even though it KNOWS there's a default route, it's not showing it...
*shrug*
John


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Re: OFF TOPIC@#$@# hrmmm jobs

2000-07-31 Thread Hidong Kim

Charles Galpin wrote:
 
 Just some friendly advice regarding emails intended to help you get a job.
 
 1. spell check
 2. spell check
 3. spell check
 
 At the very least it looks like you read the letter yourself before
 sending it, and may even help make you look competant.

competant?  spell check, spell check, spell check


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Re: su and root not the same??

2000-07-31 Thread Charles Galpin

I didn't see anyone answer this, so I'll give it a stab.

It protects you against trojans. The beauty of the unix security model is
that a 'regular' user can't do much wrong to the system, only to
themselves. However if you can get root to run something malicious (like
"rm -rf /") then you can really cause some damage.

If root has "." in their path, then programs in the current directory may
be found and run. If it's at the end of the path then the risk is much
less, but still there.

*** DO NOT TRY THIS **
A trivial example of a trojan would be creating a file called 'ls' in /tmp
with the following contents

#!/bin/sh
rm -rf /  /dev/null
/bin/ls

If this were made executable and someone with "." in their path before
/bin ran this, you might have a lot of files missing before you realize
it (since it does indeed do a ls as well). If it were root, then you would
lose all your files..

I hope this has been a clear enough description to scare the hell out of
you and remove "." from your regular accounts as well. Sadly enough you
won't (like me) and probably have rm aliased to 'rm -f' even though it's
bitten you in the ass several times already. Hey, that's what backups are
for right? Of course I am nowhere near that casual with my root acounts.

charles

On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Steve Arnold wrote:

 Jake McHenry wrote:
 
  What is such a security error with what I said? I've never done what I said, but
  about the same thing. I have root's login disabled, to I have to su to root. I
  have the . at the end of my user's path, and when I su to root, it keeps my
  paths, including the ., so I always can run the program in the current
  directory. I only su to root when I need to, don't use it for everything, hence
  why I did it this way. I've always done this. Can someone please explain to me
  why it is such a security problem? And sorry to the person that I told this to,
  if I realized this was a mistake, I wouldn't have told him to do that.
 
 I'd like to hear a good answer on this one, too.  Although I do the
 "./blah" thing for messing around with stuff in the current directory,
 I'm not sure what the big deal is.  Is it just the possibility of
 running something un-intended as root that's the big danger here?
 
 Don't leave us dangling...
 
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Re: OFF TOPIC@#$@# hrmmm jobs

2000-07-31 Thread Charles Galpin

I never said I could spell worth a damn. I *never* spell check my emial to
this list. But then again I'm not looking for a job, or trying to impress
*anyone*...

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Hidong Kim wrote:

 Charles Galpin wrote:
  
  Just some friendly advice regarding emails intended to help you get a job.
  
  1. spell check
  2. spell check
  3. spell check
  
  At the very least it looks like you read the letter yourself before
  sending it, and may even help make you look competant.
 
 competant?  spell check, spell check, spell check


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Re: OFF TOPIC@#$@# hrmmm jobs

2000-07-31 Thread Chuck Mead

Chas,
 I saw this too and elected not to zing you on it... besides... I 
already knew you couldn't spell... grin

 Original Message 

On 7/31/00, 12:20:52 PM, Charles Galpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote regarding Re: OFF TOPIC@#$@# hrmmm jobs:


 I never said I could spell worth a damn. I *never* spell check my emial 
to
 this list. But then again I'm not looking for a job, or trying to impress
 *anyone*...

 On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Hidong Kim wrote:

  Charles Galpin wrote:
  
   Just some friendly advice regarding emails intended to help you get a 
job.
  
   1. spell check
   2. spell check
   3. spell check
  
   At the very least it looks like you read the letter yourself before
   sending it, and may even help make you look competant.
 
  competant?  spell check, spell check, spell check


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Re: Help! Network stopped working!

2000-07-31 Thread Bret Hughes

Jeff Graves wrote:

 If there's no default route listed when you issue the command
 route -n, then you won't be able to ping out. If you type route you
 should get 4 entries (that's what I get on all the default install
 boxes i have):

 DestGateMaskFlags   Int
 192.168.1.2 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH  Eth0
 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U   Eth0
 127.0.0.1   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U   lo
 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG  Eth0

 Where 192.168.1.2 would be the linux box and 192.168.1.1 is the
 router. If these aren't in there it could explain why you can't ping
 out but do receive pings (it can't find any a route to the address
 to ping, but the windoze box has it's own routing table and can find
 the linux box). Of course you may have links to multiple networks
 and other things so it could look different. But the point is, to
 get to the internet you need the default route and to ping other
 machines on the subnet you need the 192.168.1.0 entry.

He should be able to ping the local windows boxes without the default
route right?  Of course this assumes the route exist for the interface
and the "local" network.  The default would only be used if a host not in
the local net was accessed.  Then the default route with the address of
the router as the gateway would be needed.  I figure that there is
something else going on if he cannot see the local net boxes.

Bret


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Re: Help! Network stopped working!

2000-07-31 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Bret Hughes wrote:
 
 He should be able to ping the local windows boxes without the default
 route right?  Of course this assumes the route exist for the interface
 and the "local" network.  The default would only be used if a host not in
 the local net was accessed.  Then the default route with the address of
 the router as the gateway would be needed.  I figure that there is
 something else going on if he cannot see the local net boxes.
 
Well, even though I do a lot of my own tech support, a friend of mine
is a professional computer tech and knows linux WAY better than I do.
He's agreed to take a look and see if he can figure out what's going
on. With any luck, I'll be back up and running tonight. :-)
John


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RE: Help! Network stopped working!

2000-07-31 Thread Jeff Graves

He should be able to ping the local windows boxes without the
default
route right?

yes, he should be able to if

Of course this assumes the route exist for the interface
and the "local" network.

he had the 192.168.1.0 entry in the tables.

The default would only be used if a host not in
the local net was accessed.  Then the default route with the
address of
the router as the gateway would be needed.  I figure that there is
something else going on if he cannot see the local net boxes.

However, the reason I mention this is because usually when things
dissappear from the routing table none of it works. A reboot or
rebuild of the routing table may solve the problem. Also, make sure
that you ping the card itself. And take a look at ifconfig.


Bret


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Cat5 modular wall jacks

2000-07-31 Thread Jeff Graves

Do these have a specific name or am I calling them by the correct
name? I want to buy some (what I think are called) modular Cat 5
wall jacks for my house. Anyone know where I can get some of these?
I was looking for something that had some snap in modules of
different varieties like an RJ11, RJ45, Coax (for TV), and Fiber.
Anyone have any recommendations as to where to buy or what brand to
get?

Thanks,
Jeff Graves


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RE: Cat5 modular wall jacks

2000-07-31 Thread Anthony Lawson

Look in your area for "electric and communication supply" stores.  They will
have tons in all different kinds for a good price.

Yes, that description is correct (well at least I knew what you were talking
about...). =)

A n t h o n y  L a w s o n
Systems/Networking Support - CCNA
Semaphore Corporation - [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Graves [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 11:57 AM
To: Redhat List (E-mail)
Subject: Cat5 modular wall jacks


Do these have a specific name or am I calling them by the correct
name? I want to buy some (what I think are called) modular Cat 5
wall jacks for my house. Anyone know where I can get some of these?
I was looking for something that had some snap in modules of
different varieties like an RJ11, RJ45, Coax (for TV), and Fiber.
Anyone have any recommendations as to where to buy or what brand to
get?

Thanks,
Jeff Graves


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Re: Cat5 modular wall jacks

2000-07-31 Thread Charles Galpin

I love these guys

http://milestek.com

charles

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Jeff Graves wrote:

 Do these have a specific name or am I calling them by the correct
 name? I want to buy some (what I think are called) modular Cat 5
 wall jacks for my house. Anyone know where I can get some of these?
 I was looking for something that had some snap in modules of
 different varieties like an RJ11, RJ45, Coax (for TV), and Fiber.
 Anyone have any recommendations as to where to buy or what brand to
 get?
 
 Thanks,
 Jeff Graves


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Re: su and root not the same??

2000-07-31 Thread Jake McHenry


ok, thanks for the info. I never really thought of it like that, someone else
running as root. Even though they would never get my password, I guess there are
other ways of becoming root. Thanks again.

jake


On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Charles Galpin wrote:

--I didn't see anyone answer this, so I'll give it a stab.
--
--It protects you against trojans. The beauty of the unix security model is
--that a 'regular' user can't do much wrong to the system, only to
--themselves. However if you can get root to run something malicious (like
--"rm -rf /") then you can really cause some damage.
--
--If root has "." in their path, then programs in the current directory may
--be found and run. If it's at the end of the path then the risk is much
--less, but still there.
--
--  *** DO NOT TRY THIS **
--A trivial example of a trojan would be creating a file called 'ls' in /tmp
--with the following contents
--
--#!/bin/sh
--rm -rf /  /dev/null
--/bin/ls
--
--If this were made executable and someone with "." in their path before
--/bin ran this, you might have a lot of files missing before you realize
--it (since it does indeed do a ls as well). If it were root, then you would
--lose all your files..
--
--I hope this has been a clear enough description to scare the hell out of
--you and remove "." from your regular accounts as well. Sadly enough you
--won't (like me) and probably have rm aliased to 'rm -f' even though it's
--bitten you in the ass several times already. Hey, that's what backups are
--for right? Of course I am nowhere near that casual with my root acounts.
--
--charles
--
--On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Steve Arnold wrote:
--
-- Jake McHenry wrote:
-- 
--  What is such a security error with what I said? I've never done what I said, but
--  about the same thing. I have root's login disabled, to I have to su to root. I
--  have the . at the end of my user's path, and when I su to root, it keeps my
--  paths, including the ., so I always can run the program in the current
--  directory. I only su to root when I need to, don't use it for everything, hence
--  why I did it this way. I've always done this. Can someone please explain to me
--  why it is such a security problem? And sorry to the person that I told this to,
--  if I realized this was a mistake, I wouldn't have told him to do that.
-- 
-- I'd like to hear a good answer on this one, too.  Although I do the
-- "./blah" thing for messing around with stuff in the current directory,
-- I'm not sure what the big deal is.  Is it just the possibility of
-- running something un-intended as root that's the big danger here?
-- 
-- Don't leave us dangling...
-- 
-- Steve
-- 
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Re: su and root not the same??

2000-07-31 Thread Charles Galpin

actually it's more about you being root, unintentionaly running someone
else's script. In my example I should have pointed out that *anyone* could
create an executeable file called /tmp/ls.

charles

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Jake McHenry wrote:

 
 ok, thanks for the info. I never really thought of it like that, someone else
 running as root. Even though they would never get my password, I guess there are
 other ways of becoming root. Thanks again.
 
 jake
 
 
 On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Charles Galpin wrote:
 
 --I didn't see anyone answer this, so I'll give it a stab.
 --
 --It protects you against trojans. The beauty of the unix security model is
 --that a 'regular' user can't do much wrong to the system, only to
 --themselves. However if you can get root to run something malicious (like
 --"rm -rf /") then you can really cause some damage.


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Re: Cat5 modular wall jacks

2000-07-31 Thread Jake McHenry

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Charles Galpin wrote:

--I love these guys
--
--http://milestek.com
--
--charles

Yes, these are the only people that I order from, when it comes to wiring and
cabinet needs.

jake


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Re: su and root not the same??

2000-07-31 Thread Jake McHenry

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Charles Galpin wrote:

--actually it's more about you being root, unintentionaly running someone
--else's script. In my example I should have pointed out that *anyone* could
--create an executeable file called /tmp/ls.
--
--charles

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't just go around and run people's
scripts. If I do happen to come along a script that I think about running, I
look at it for a long time first in an editor. I especially don't run things
that are in the /tmp directory.

jake


--On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Jake McHenry wrote:
--
-- 
-- ok, thanks for the info. I never really thought of it like that, someone else
-- running as root. Even though they would never get my password, I guess there are
-- other ways of becoming root. Thanks again.
-- 
-- jake
-- 
-- 
-- On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Charles Galpin wrote:
-- 
-- --I didn't see anyone answer this, so I'll give it a stab.
-- --
-- --It protects you against trojans. The beauty of the unix security model is
-- --that a 'regular' user can't do much wrong to the system, only to
-- --themselves. However if you can get root to run something malicious (like
-- --"rm -rf /") then you can really cause some damage.
--
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Re: su and root not the same??

2000-07-31 Thread Charles Galpin

but that's *THE POINT*! If you run 'ls' as root while in /tmp you are not
knowlingly running someone else's script - you are doing soemthing you do
many times a day that is quite harmless. 

1. somehow someone gets to create the file /tmp/ls as I suggested - could
be a disgrunlted friend who had a login account on your box, could be
someone exploiting a poorly written cgi script, etc, etc
2. you have "." in your path (before /bin)
3. 6 months rolls by (you ahole friend above doesn't even have an account
anymore)
4. you download the latest snafu.1386.rpm and do an ls to get the full
name.
5. you cry a lot

Let me know if this is still not clear. It's important you understand the
difference here.

charles

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Jake McHenry wrote:

 On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Charles Galpin wrote:
 
 --actually it's more about you being root, unintentionaly running someone
 --else's script. In my example I should have pointed out that *anyone* could
 --create an executeable file called /tmp/ls.
 --
 --charles
 
 I don't know about anyone else, but I don't just go around and run people's
 scripts. If I do happen to come along a script that I think about running, I
 look at it for a long time first in an editor. I especially don't run things
 that are in the /tmp directory.
 
 jake
 
 
 --On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Jake McHenry wrote:
 --
 -- 
 -- ok, thanks for the info. I never really thought of it like that, someone else
 -- running as root. Even though they would never get my password, I guess there are
 -- other ways of becoming root. Thanks again.
 -- 
 -- jake
 -- 
 -- 
 -- On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Charles Galpin wrote:
 -- 
 -- --I didn't see anyone answer this, so I'll give it a stab.
 -- --
 -- --It protects you against trojans. The beauty of the unix security model is
 -- --that a 'regular' user can't do much wrong to the system, only to
 -- --themselves. However if you can get root to run something malicious (like
 -- --"rm -rf /") then you can really cause some damage.
 --
 --
  
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Re: su and root not the same??

2000-07-31 Thread Jake McHenry


Yes, I see what your saying. If I would just happen to be in /tmp, and someone
just happened to make that fake "ls" script, then that would be a problem. I
don't know of many people on my system that know how to do anything more than
run pine, but there's the possibility. Thanks again.

Jake



On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Charles Galpin wrote:

--but that's *THE POINT*! If you run 'ls' as root while in /tmp you are not
--knowlingly running someone else's script - you are doing soemthing you do
--many times a day that is quite harmless. 
--
--1. somehow someone gets to create the file /tmp/ls as I suggested - could
--be a disgrunlted friend who had a login account on your box, could be
--someone exploiting a poorly written cgi script, etc, etc
--2. you have "." in your path (before /bin)
--3. 6 months rolls by (you ahole friend above doesn't even have an account
--anymore)
--4. you download the latest snafu.1386.rpm and do an ls to get the full
--name.
--5. you cry a lot
--
--Let me know if this is still not clear. It's important you understand the
--difference here.
--
--charles
--
--On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Jake McHenry wrote:
--
-- On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Charles Galpin wrote:
-- 
-- --actually it's more about you being root, unintentionaly running someone
-- --else's script. In my example I should have pointed out that *anyone* could
-- --create an executeable file called /tmp/ls.
-- --
-- --charles
-- 
-- I don't know about anyone else, but I don't just go around and run people's
-- scripts. If I do happen to come along a script that I think about running, I
-- look at it for a long time first in an editor. I especially don't run things
-- that are in the /tmp directory.
-- 
-- jake
-- 
-- 
-- --On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Jake McHenry wrote:
-- --
-- -- 
-- -- ok, thanks for the info. I never really thought of it like that, someone else
-- -- running as root. Even though they would never get my password, I guess there 
are
-- -- other ways of becoming root. Thanks again.
-- -- 
-- -- jake
-- -- 
-- -- 
-- -- On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Charles Galpin wrote:
-- -- 
-- -- --I didn't see anyone answer this, so I'll give it a stab.
-- -- --
-- -- --It protects you against trojans. The beauty of the unix security model is
-- -- --that a 'regular' user can't do much wrong to the system, only to
-- -- --themselves. However if you can get root to run something malicious (like
-- -- --"rm -rf /") then you can really cause some damage.
-- --
-- --
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Re: su and root not the same??

2000-07-31 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Jake McHenry wrote:
 Yes, I see what your saying. If I would just happen to be in /tmp, and someone
 just happened to make that fake "ls" script, then that would be a problem. I
 don't know of many people on my system that know how to do anything more than
 run pine, but there's the possibility. Thanks again.
 
Yep. OTOH, someone may download something (accidentally) or you might
get hacked 
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Re: kernel 2.4.x and redhat

2000-07-31 Thread linlist

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Wayne Dyer wrote:

 Larry Mintz wrote:
  What version of Red Hat will carry kernel 2.4.x ?
  I see at kernel.org its in beta .
  I wonder when Red Hat will release it ?
  I 'm waiting for that version !
  Larry[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 RH usually doesn't release specs of upcoming releases until they're
 released, but we'll definitely have to wait until 1) the kernel isn't 
 in beta; 2) the kernel passes RH's tests and they've recompiled/
 reconfigured to support the kernel. (I heard that ipchains is now 
 yesterday's news?  I don't keep up any more.)
 
 I'm hoping to see RHL 7.0 with the 2.4.x kernel and XFree86 4.x.x
 
Well, it looks like you will get at least one of your wishes.  The beta of
7.0 includes XFree86 4.x.x (And 3.6.x for hardware compatibility reasons).

2.2.16 is the kernel released with Redhat 7.0 beta, and I doubt that 2.4.x
will be ready prior to when redhat wants to release 7.0.

M

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Re: su and root not the same??

2000-07-31 Thread Jake McHenry

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, John Aldrich wrote:

--Sure... YOU don't. But what about the guy who's decided to try linux
--and barely has enough competence to install it. :-)
--  John

I feel that people with that little competency should not be allowed to turn on
the computer. They may hurt themselves.

jake


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Re: su and root not the same??

2000-07-31 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Jake McHenry wrote:
 On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, John Aldrich wrote:
 
 --Sure... YOU don't. But what about the guy who's decided to try linux
 --and barely has enough competence to install it. :-)
 --John
 
 I feel that people with that little competency should not be allowed to turn on
 the computer. They may hurt themselves.
 
Yeah, but with all the publicity linux is getting and "linux4windows"
and stuff like that, "Joe Average" is gonna go down to his local
office supply store, grab a copy of Linux4Windows, install it on his
Win98SE machine and call himself a SysAdmin. We can't stop him.
However, we SHOULD be able to prevent him from making STUPID mistakes
by at least using tricks like "./command" to run "command" which is
in the current directory. :-) 
John


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Re: su and root not the same??

2000-07-31 Thread John Aldrich

BTW, I'm not disagreeing with you, just saying that we can't stop
'em. :-)
John


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Re: su and root not the same??

2000-07-31 Thread Jake McHenry

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, John Aldrich wrote:

--Yeah, but with all the publicity linux is getting and "linux4windows"
--and stuff like that, "Joe Average" is gonna go down to his local
--office supply store, grab a copy of Linux4Windows, install it on his
--Win98SE machine and call himself a SysAdmin. We can't stop him.
--However, we SHOULD be able to prevent him from making STUPID mistakes
--by at least using tricks like "./command" to run "command" which is
--in the current directory. :-) 
--  John


I agree. Sorry to ruffle everyone's feathers about this. Just wasn't thinking
before I spoke.

jake


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Re: su and root not the same??

2000-07-31 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Jake McHenry wrote:
 I agree. Sorry to ruffle everyone's feathers about this. Just wasn't thinking
 before I spoke.
 
No feathers ruffled here. :-) It's amazing how complacent you get
about running other people's scripts, etc when you use 'em every day.
Now if I were a programmer, I'd probably look at every new piece of
software that I installed, BEFORE I install it. 

Seeing as to how I'm just a user who barely knows how to compile a
program from a tarball, I just have to trust that whatever I'm
getting from FreshMeat and Linuxberg, etc are "safe" (i.e. not
trojans) programs. :-)
John


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Re: Less on 6.2

2000-07-31 Thread Bob Taylor

OK. The mystery is that rxvt does not support this. I didn't make the 
connection. FYI less -X will not work in rxvt.

Thanks to all who responded! I've been a less user for some 15 years.

Bob

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[OT] two connections to the net.

2000-07-31 Thread paul . hessels

I will soon have both a xDSL and a cable modem connection to the net.

I want to set up a linux router use both connections.  I am thinking
OSPF.. I have never done this, but I want to try.  My question, has anyone
here done this?  Does anyone know how to do this?

thank you,
-- 
--Paul Hessels

(O|O)


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RE: [OT] two connections to the net.

2000-07-31 Thread Anthony Lawson

You would need BGP and a BGP peer.  Way more then it's probably worth on a
home connection.

The hard way is to create static routes out each pipe to different blocks.
Maybe use one of the gateway, and the other for common accessed areas like
gaming servers.  

A n t h o n y  L a w s o n
Systems/Networking Support - CCNA
Semaphore Corporation   206.905.5028
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Subject: [OT] two connections to the net.


I will soon have both a xDSL and a cable modem connection to the net.

I want to set up a linux router use both connections.  I am thinking
OSPF.. I have never done this, but I want to try.  My question, has anyone
here done this?  Does anyone know how to do this?

thank you,
-- 
--Paul Hessels

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Re: su and root not the same??

2000-07-31 Thread Glen Lee Edwards

I would think that with all the known problems with running rm -rf from
root that someone would get smart and find a way to disable its use from
root.  rm -r from root would accomplish the same but force the user to sit
there and manually approve each deletion.

Granted there are times when as a sys adm I use rm -rf, especially in
deleting a user's file system when said individual is no longer active on
the system.  But this is rare enough for me that disabling rm -rf from
root would be worth the extra work I'd have to do later.

Glen



On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Jake McHenry wrote:


ok, thanks for the info. I never really thought of it like that, someone else
running as root. Even though they would never get my password, I guess there are
other ways of becoming root. Thanks again.

jake


On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Charles Galpin wrote:

--I didn't see anyone answer this, so I'll give it a stab.
--
--It protects you against trojans. The beauty of the unix security model is
--that a 'regular' user can't do much wrong to the system, only to
--themselves. However if you can get root to run something malicious (like
--"rm -rf /") then you can really cause some damage.
--
--If root has "." in their path, then programs in the current directory may
--be found and run. If it's at the end of the path then the risk is much
--less, but still there.
--
-- *** DO NOT TRY THIS **
--A trivial example of a trojan would be creating a file called 'ls' in /tmp
--with the following contents
--
--#!/bin/sh
--rm -rf /  /dev/null
--/bin/ls
--
--If this were made executable and someone with "." in their path before
--/bin ran this, you might have a lot of files missing before you realize
--it (since it does indeed do a ls as well). If it were root, then you would
--lose all your files..
--
--I hope this has been a clear enough description to scare the hell out of
--you and remove "." from your regular accounts as well. Sadly enough you
--won't (like me) and probably have rm aliased to 'rm -f' even though it's
--bitten you in the ass several times already. Hey, that's what backups are
--for right? Of course I am nowhere near that casual with my root acounts.
--
--charles
--
--On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Steve Arnold wrote:
--
-- Jake McHenry wrote:
-- 
--  What is such a security error with what I said? I've never done what I said, but
--  about the same thing. I have root's login disabled, to I have to su to root. I
--  have the . at the end of my user's path, and when I su to root, it keeps my
--  paths, including the ., so I always can run the program in the current
--  directory. I only su to root when I need to, don't use it for everything, hence
--  why I did it this way. I've always done this. Can someone please explain to me
--  why it is such a security problem? And sorry to the person that I told this to,
--  if I realized this was a mistake, I wouldn't have told him to do that.
-- 
-- I'd like to hear a good answer on this one, too.  Although I do the
-- "./blah" thing for messing around with stuff in the current directory,
-- I'm not sure what the big deal is.  Is it just the possibility of
-- running something un-intended as root that's the big danger here?
-- 
-- Don't leave us dangling...
-- 
-- Steve
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printer...

2000-07-31 Thread rob smith

I have a lexmark Z11 printer.  It is not supported in redhat 6.2   I have been
told (on another list) that there is "no way" it will ever work in linux.  I find
this hard to believe, with all of the "linux Guru's" out there surely someone
can figure out a way to make it work...so any suggestions??

-- 
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Re: [OT] two connections to the net.

2000-07-31 Thread Chris Watt

At 17:09 31/07/00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I will soon have both a xDSL and a cable modem connection to the net.

I want to set up a linux router use both connections.  I am thinking
OSPF.. I have never done this, but I want to try.  My question, has anyone
here done this?  Does anyone know how to do this?

Unless your xDSL and cable are of radically different speeds you probably
just want to do equal cost multipath (non deterministic) routing. You get
this by compiling your own kernel  and (in addition to all other
appropriate values to make your system work) you would say yes to
CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER and CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_MULTIPATH. The help text for
these two options plus the man page for the route command should tell you
everything else you want to know (this assumes kernel 2.2.16, it may be
slightly different in other versions). Basically you just need to create
two "default" routes, one for each device, and they'll both be used at
once. Note: This is MUCH easier to do if you connect your xDSL and Cable to
two different NICs (and then use a third for a firewalled/masq'd LAN). It
can be done on a single NIC using virtual interfaces, but it's not pretty
or efficient (except in terms of saving an IRQ).

For more info on compiling your own kernel: install the kernel-headers and
kernel-source RPM's. Read the Kernel-HOWTO. In general "make clean
menuconfig dep bzImage modules modules_install" works.
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Re: printer...

2000-07-31 Thread Bernhard Rosenkraenzer

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, rob smith wrote:

 I have a lexmark Z11 printer.  It is not supported in redhat 6.2

Actually it's supposed to work...
According to http://www.linuxprinting.org/:

   Success reported with Peter West's lx5000 driver; I don't know how
   well it works, but probably color and bw modes work at low resolution.
   Printer does not support PJL.
   Note: printer doesn't print plain text.
   Refill: black (Standard Yield P/N 12A1970, High Yield P/N 12A1975)
   color
   This information has been proofread.
   Autoprobe info present.

Driver Information

   lx5000  http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_driver.cgi?driver=lx5000
  Type: Ghostscript



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Re: How to install samke and xcdrecod on RH 6.2

2000-07-31 Thread Stephen Liu

Hi Mikkel,

Thanks for your assistance.   cdrecord-1.9-2.src.rpm has been rebuilt,
compiled and installed in accordance to your advice without problem.
However I could not locate the manual/instruction for its
starting/operation.

CDWriter Icon has been created on KDE desktop.  After having  'iso9660'
(file type of cdrom1) changed to  'auto'  inside "fstab" both CDR and CDRW
disc can be mounted and read as well.

However I could not find any location/device to invoke "cdrecord" nor have
any idea how to create an icon with link
to start it.   Besides  "locate"  command could not find the directory
of cdrecord-1.9.2

Kindly advise how to check whether compilation and installation has been
completed and how to start writing CDR
and CDRW disc

Thanks in advance.

Stephen

(Furthermore what will be the difference for files having .i386, i586 and
i686 extension)

- Original Message -
From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Stephen Liu" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: How to install samke and xcdrecod on RH 6.2

 You don't need libsafe for this one.  And you don't want to mess with
 libsafe untill you know a bit more.  Anyway, to install it, as root:
  rpm --rebuild cdrecord-1.9-2.src.rpm
 (This assumes that cdrecord-1.9-2.src.rpm is in the current directory.)

 This will take a while, as it will compile the RPM on your system.  Then
 change to /etc/sec/redhat/RPMS/i386

  rpm -ivh cdrecord-1.9-2.i386.rpm

 This will install the rpm.  Now you should be ready to go.

 One bad thig about burring CDs - you have to be root or SUID cdrecord to
 burn a CD.





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Re: How to install samke and xcdrecod on RH 6.2

2000-07-31 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Stephen Liu wrote:

 Hi Mikkel,
 
 Thanks for your assistance.   cdrecord-1.9-2.src.rpm has been rebuilt,
 compiled and installed in accordance to your advice without problem.
 However I could not locate the manual/instruction for its
 starting/operation.
 
 CDWriter Icon has been created on KDE desktop.  After having  'iso9660'
 (file type of cdrom1) changed to  'auto'  inside "fstab" both CDR and CDRW
 disc can be mounted and read as well.
 
 However I could not find any location/device to invoke "cdrecord" nor have
 any idea how to create an icon with link
 to start it.   Besides  "locate"  command could not find the directory
 of cdrecord-1.9.2
 
Look in /usr/doc/cdrecord-1.9 for some of the documention.  man cdrecord
will also give you information on how to run it.  Cdrecord is a command
utility.  If you want to burn CD's from X, you might want to try
xcdroast.  You will also find the CD-Writing-HOWTO helpfull.  It should
be in /usr/doc/HOWTO.
 Kindly advise how to check whether compilation and installation has been
 completed and how to start writing CDR
 and CDRW disc
 
From the command prompt, or from an xterm, type "cdrecord -scanbus".  It
will check to see if you have a CD writter that it know about.  As long
as the command runs, you have cdrecord installed.  

If you still have problems after reading the man pages, and the howto,
write again.

 Thanks in advance.
 
 Stephen
 
 (Furthermore what will be the difference for files having .i386, i586 and
 i686 extension)
 
The .i386, i586, and i686 tell you the processor it was optimized to run
on.  A i.386 will run on anything form a 80386 up.  A i586 is optimized
for pertium systems, and the i686 are pentium II.  Most of the utility
programs are i386 so that they will run on any machine.

Mikkel
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Re: local address spoofing

2000-07-31 Thread Graham Hemmings

Cable modems are a shared medium much like an Ethernet hub.  Given the 
filtering you describe it seems likely that your attacker would have to be 
on the same shared segment as you.  You could run a packet sniffer like 
tcpdump to try and obtain the MAC address of the hacker (assuming that 
hasn't been spoofed also).  Armed with this info you should approach your 
cable provider to stop the attacks.

Graham.


At 16:32 29/07/2000, you wrote:
 Hello all!


SNIP


  So this is the situation. Now for the questions:
1) Am I correct in assuming that this spoof can only come from the ISP's
network? If not, how does one route such requests?
2) Does anyone have suggestions on how to counter such spoofs? Pointers to
relevant websites are appreciated, and personal experiences are also welcome.

 CU O,

 Leonard.


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cdrecord error

2000-07-31 Thread Steve Lee

what does this mean?
Cdrecord 1.8 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 Jrg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
/usr/bin/cdrecord: No space left on device. shmget failed

i get this sometimes when i try to 
burn cds.  When i reboot it works fine.
but its getting old rebooting everytime.


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Re: su and root not the same??

2000-07-31 Thread linda hanigan


- Original Message -
From: "Glen Lee Edwards" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: su and root not the same??


 I would think that with all the known problems with running rm -rf from
 root that someone would get smart and find a way to disable its use from
 root.  rm -r from root would accomplish the same but force the user to sit
 there and manually approve each deletion.

Years ago when I started using unix one of the
things I loved about it, was that it did not ask
me if I really wanted to do what I ask it too.
One thing that unix has always taught is to
think before you type. You remember the
lessons because the cost of mistakes can
be high.
  Linda Hanigan


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Re: How to install samke and xcdrecod on RH 6.2

2000-07-31 Thread Stephen Liu

Hi Mikkel,

Thanks

Stephen

- Original Message -
From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "Stephen Liu" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: How to install samke and xcdrecod on RH 6.2


 On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Stephen Liu wrote:

  Hi Mikkel,
 
  Thanks for your assistance.   cdrecord-1.9-2.src.rpm has been rebuilt,
  compiled and installed in accordance to your advice without problem.
  However I could not locate the manual/instruction for its
  starting/operation.
 
  CDWriter Icon has been created on KDE desktop.  After having  'iso9660'
  (file type of cdrom1) changed to  'auto'  inside "fstab" both CDR and
CDRW
  disc can be mounted and read as well.
 
  However I could not find any location/device to invoke "cdrecord" nor
have
  any idea how to create an icon with link
  to start it.   Besides  "locate"  command could not find the directory
  of cdrecord-1.9.2
 
 Look in /usr/doc/cdrecord-1.9 for some of the documention.  man cdrecord
 will also give you information on how to run it.  Cdrecord is a command
 utility.  If you want to burn CD's from X, you might want to try
 xcdroast.  You will also find the CD-Writing-HOWTO helpfull.  It should
 be in /usr/doc/HOWTO.
  Kindly advise how to check whether compilation and installation has been
  completed and how to start writing CDR
  and CDRW disc
 
 From the command prompt, or from an xterm, type "cdrecord -scanbus".  It
 will check to see if you have a CD writter that it know about.  As long
 as the command runs, you have cdrecord installed.

 If you still have problems after reading the man pages, and the howto,
 write again.
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  Stephen
 
  (Furthermore what will be the difference for files having .i386, i586
and
  i686 extension)
 
 The .i386, i586, and i686 tell you the processor it was optimized to run
 on.  A i.386 will run on anything form a 80386 up.  A i586 is optimized
 for pertium systems, and the i686 are pentium II.  Most of the utility
 programs are i386 so that they will run on any machine.

 Mikkel



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loading scsi module on boot

2000-07-31 Thread Charles Galpin


This PC boots fine from a floppy, but I've long since forgotten what
parameters were given to lilo to do so. I do know it boots off of
/dev/sda2 which is the root part.

I just got it to boot from LILO on /dev/sda by adding disk/bios parameters
(it has a ide disk as /dev/hda - with no bootable partitions). Now I get
this. It's an old 486 with ISA cards.

loading aha1542 module
/lib/aha1542.o: invalid parameter parm_io

I have run mkinitrd like so:

[root@bitsy /root]# mkinitrd -f -v /boot/initrd-2.2.14-5.0.img  2.2.14-5.0
Using modules:  scsi/aha1542.o
Using loopback device /dev/loop0
/sbin/sash - /tmp/initrd.721/bin/sash
/sbin/insmod.static - /tmp/initrd.721/bin/insmod
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/scsi/aha1542.o - /tmp/initrd.721/lib/aha1542.o
Loading module aha1542 with options io=0x330

A succesful boot (from floppy) logs this:

Jul 31 20:47:23 bitsy kernel: Configuring Adaptec (SCSI-ID 7) at IO:330,
IRQ 10, DMA priority 7
Jul 31 20:47:23 bitsy kernel: scsi0 : Adaptec 1542

so I don't see why the args would be wrong..

conf.modules:

alias scsi_hostadapter aha1542
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
alias eth0 ne
alias eth1 ne
options ne io=0x340,0x300 irq=9,5
options aha1542 io=0x330


How do I tell what options are given to insmod in both cases?

any and all help apreciated.

tia
charles



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Re: Qmail POP3 Error

2000-07-31 Thread Anthony P

Thanx, 

I'm using RH 6.2, and I get Qmail from www.qmail.org
with mirror site California. For installation i follow
instruction from README files.
1. stopping sendmail service, and ypbind.
2. untar var-qmail-1.03-2-gnu-linux-i386.tar.gz
3. rpm --rebuild qmail-1.03-102memphis.src.rpm
4.
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-1.03-102memphis.i386.rpm
5. installation qmail-run
o install function
o install daemontools
o install ucspi-tcp
o rpm -Uvh qmail-run-4-4.i386.rpm
6. running qmail-smtpd
7. running qmail
8. running qmail-pop3d, and in this instruction i
found error : 
   - hard error
 pop3d running  done
   -

Then, when i try to use my server mail from outlook, i
just can send email and i can't reciev


Thanx

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Re: compiling ghostscript..trying anyway..

2000-07-31 Thread Charles Galpin

you need the 'patch' rpm

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, rob smith wrote:
snip
 /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.1350: patch: command not found


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Re: compiling ghostscript..trying anyway..

2000-07-31 Thread rob smith

Thankx for the responce but could you be a little more specific...what patch?? 
any idea where I get it?


On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:58:59 Charles Galpin wrote:
 you need the 'patch' rpm
 
 On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, rob smith wrote:
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  /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.1350: patch: command not found
 
 
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unable to boot to linux: please help

2000-07-31 Thread vsnl

i have a dual boot machine win98 and rh6.0. recently i loaded win agin and
now i am unable to boot to linux. what do i do to get to lilo boot prompt
again? i dont have a linux bootable floppy... do i need to reload linux???

do tell me

thanks

dattatraya




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Re: compiling ghostscript..trying anyway..

2000-07-31 Thread Charles Galpin

The rpm called 'patch', not a patch!

[root@bitsy /etc]# rpm -q patch
patch-2.5-10


You Red Hat CD, and any mirror will have it. I like rpmfind myself:

[root@bitsy /etc]# rpmfind --latest patch
Installing patch will require 175 KBytes

### To Transfer:
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/contrib/libc6/i386//patch-2.5.3-1.i386.rpm

hth
charles
(still waiting eagerly for help with his trivial ('m sure) scsi module
boot issue)

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, rob smith wrote:

 Thankx for the responce but could you be a little more specific...what patch?? 
 any idea where I get it?
 
 
 On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:58:59 Charles Galpin wrote:
  you need the 'patch' rpm
  
  On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, rob smith wrote:
  snip
   /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.1350: patch: command not found


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RE: Epson Stylus Color 740

2000-07-31 Thread Cindy Pearce

I upgraded from 6.1. Sounds like I should do a re-install from scratch like
you suggested.
According to my logs, lpd starts successfully and then I see:

parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [SPP,ECP,EPPECP,ECPPS2]
parport0: detected irq7; use procfs to enable interrupt-driven operation
ppuser: User-space parrallel port driver

The address and irq are correct. No clue what "ppuser" is all about, yet.

Thanks,

Cindy

-Original Message-
From: Stephen L Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 2:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Epson Stylus Color 740


On 31 Jul 00, at 1:07, Cindy Pearce wrote:

 I had this printer working beautifully in RH 6.1. I updated to RH
 6.2 and now it refuses to work. I have been through all the
 resources I can find, specifically Bert Havercamp, Michael Holve,
 Grant Taylor and the Printing HOWTO. I had VMware for Linux Version
 2.0 installed and running as well on 6.1.

Are you sure your parallel port is being recognized properly?  Did
you do the RH upgrade?  I just had a disastrous "upgrade" from 6.1
to 6.2, and I had to re-install 6.2 from scratch.

Verify your lp modules are loading correctly (try a different
device if you have to).  You may need to specify the device
parameters (IRQ, I/O port) in your conf.modules file.  You can also
build your kernel with lp support, but if you want to use some
other device like a zip drive, then you must compile both as
modules.  Try and cat a text file directly to the port, then a
simple script, etc.  If it worked before, it ought to work again...

HTH, Steve


Steve Arnold  CLE
(Certifiable Linux Evangelist)
http://home.earthlink.net/~sarnold418


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Re: Intel eepro100 problem

2000-07-31 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Steven Pierce wrote:
 Kevin,
 
 I have one on my machine(server) and it works without an issue.  I am using
 2.2.13.  I have not upgraded to .16 yet.  I know I should, but it has been one of 
those
 months.,G
 
I've got an Intel EEPRO 10/100 Nic built-into my home
machine. I had to get someone more knowledgeable than I to
help me trouble-shoot and get it working again. Turns out
that apparently it decided for some unknown reason that it
was able to talk to my 10 Mbit network at 100 Mbit/s.

Forcing it down to 10 Mbit appears to have fixed the
problems I had with it. I'm looking seriously at getting a
LinkSys 10/100 switch (8-port for approx $80 from buy.com)
John


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Re: strip ^M from list of files in for loop

2000-07-31 Thread Bret Hughes

Thanks to all who responded.  For the record, the solution I came up with
was tr.  The echo -n I could not get to work in this situation. I believe
it was because the ^M was already there.  It appears from the man page
that echo -n will merely keep a ^M from being appended.  This is a weird
thing that I have yet to really get my head around.  It took a tr -d
"\n,\r" to get the functionality I needed.  \n or \r alone would not do
it.  What the heck does ^M do anyway?  I thought that dos did the cr lf
deal seperatly and *nixes used just on but from my experiments it would
appear that the were both ther even though only a singel ^M showed up.

Thanks again to all.

Bret


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Re: ssh hangs for several minutes

2000-07-31 Thread Bret Hughes

Bret Hughes wrote:

 I have been experiencing intermittant problems with a vpn
 ppp connection through ssh.  I can be working along (typing
 in a terminal) and then poof, no response for several
 minuites.  during this time I can sometimes ping the box and
 others the delay is there as well.  I can't figure out what
 is causing this.  I don't know if the packets are getting
 dropped on the floor or what.

 I am dialing into mindspring via ppp with my linux laptop.
 Ifconfig shows no errors on any interface on either box, and
 nothing suspicious in the firewall logs except the modprobe
 entries below.

 Jul 31 10:40:17 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
 ppp-compress-21
 Jul 31 10:40:17 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
 ppp-compress-26
 Jul 31 10:40:17 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
 ppp-compress-24
 Jul 31 10:40:18 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
 ppp-compress-21
 Jul 31 10:40:18 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
 ppp-compress-26
 Jul 31 10:40:19 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
 ppp-compress-24
 Jul 31 10:40:19 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
 ppp-compress-26
 Jul 31 10:40:20 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
 ppp-compress-24
 Jul 31 10:40:20 tulfw1 pppd[30148]: found interface eth0 for
 proxy arp
 Jul 31 10:40:20 tulfw1 pppd[30148]: local  IP address
 192.168.0.30
 Jul 31 10:40:20 tulfw1 pppd[30148]: remote IP address
 192.168.0.28
 Jul 31 10:40:20 tulfw1 modprobe: can't locate module
 ppp-compress-21

 when I bring the vpn interface up.  I have ignored these but
 perhaps I should not?

 I suspected that the problem was in mindspring's network but
 I can hit other websites from my laptop  when this is
 occurring with no problems.

 Any Ideas?  I have not tried to reboot the box yet. It has
 been up about 30 days and top shows very little cpu usage
 during this time.

 Anything else I can check before rebooting and seeing if it
 helps?  I have restarted the network but no help.

 Bret

More info,  The logs show for a failed vpn connection atempt the
following:

Jul 31 20:59:14 tulfw1 pppd[30480]: pppd 2.3.11 started by vpnuser, uid
501
Jul 31 20:59:14 tulfw1 pppd[30480]: Using interface ppp1
Jul 31 20:59:14 tulfw1 pppd[30480]: Connect: ppp1 -- /dev/pts/1
Jul 31 20:59:45 tulfw1 pppd[30480]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Jul 31 20:59:45 tulfw1 pppd[30480]: Connection terminated.
Jul 31 20:59:45 tulfw1 pppd[30480]: tcflush failed: Invalid argument
Jul 31 20:59:45 tulfw1 pppd[30480]: Exit.
Jul 31 20:59:45 tulfw1 sshd[30457]: log: Closing connection to
209.138.213.125
Jul 31 20:59:45 tulfw1 PAM_pwdb[30457]: (ssh) session closed for user
vpnuser
Jul 31 21:00:16 tulfw1 sshd[30483]: connect from 209.138.213.125
Jul 31 21:00:16 tulfw1 sshd[30483]: log: Connection from 209.138.213.125
port 1022


The tcflush is what I am not sure about.  Is this a symptom or part of
the cause of the failed attempt?  the dialup side just shows a bunch of
LCP attempts with no received answering packets.

Bret


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Re: strip ^M from list of files in for loop

2000-07-31 Thread Jake McHenry


The ^M is something that almost all windows editors add on as the "enter"
command at the end of each line. Even notepad does this. It's just something
that windows, and dos editor, does to files so it knows where the end of a line
is.

Jake


On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Bret Hughes wrote:

--Thanks to all who responded.  For the record, the solution I came up with
--was tr.  The echo -n I could not get to work in this situation. I believe
--it was because the ^M was already there.  It appears from the man page
--that echo -n will merely keep a ^M from being appended.  This is a weird
--thing that I have yet to really get my head around.  It took a tr -d
--"\n,\r" to get the functionality I needed.  \n or \r alone would not do
--it.  What the heck does ^M do anyway?  I thought that dos did the cr lf
--deal seperatly and *nixes used just on but from my experiments it would
--appear that the were both ther even though only a singel ^M showed up.
--
--Thanks again to all.
--
--Bret
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Re: strip ^M from list of files in for loop

2000-07-31 Thread Charles Galpin

Hi Bret

There is nothing strange about this at all. From your other posts (not
necesarily this thread) I'll bet the input file was created/written to
from one of your PCs via Samba, correct?

Well, DOS uses \r\n as it's line termintor, unix uses \n, and mac uses
\r. 

Unix utilities don't do anything automatically to modify these for you, so
you have to do it yourself.

Do a 'od -c file | less' on any text file to see what I mean. Try it on
something you did from windows, And then something from unix (like
/etc/hosts)

^M is just whatever tools you are using (like emacs) displays these
sequence of characters. vi by default doesn't show them. 

hth
charles

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Bret Hughes wrote:

 Thanks to all who responded.  For the record, the solution I came up with
 was tr.  The echo -n I could not get to work in this situation. I believe
 it was because the ^M was already there.  It appears from the man page
 that echo -n will merely keep a ^M from being appended.  This is a weird
 thing that I have yet to really get my head around.  It took a tr -d
 "\n,\r" to get the functionality I needed.  \n or \r alone would not do
 it.  What the heck does ^M do anyway?  I thought that dos did the cr lf
 deal seperatly and *nixes used just on but from my experiments it would
 appear that the were both ther even though only a singel ^M showed up.
 
 Thanks again to all.
 
 Bret


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Re: strip ^M from list of files in for loop

2000-07-31 Thread linda hanigan

There is a program called dos2unix that
converts dos files to unix files.
   Linda Hanigan


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RHCE objectives and questions of RHCE's

2000-07-31 Thread Alan Mead

I am preparing some Linux training for our programming staff who would like
to know about Linux but who work almost entirely with Windows right now.  I
figure I'll stand on the shoulders of giants and follow the RHCE exam
objectives, edited for my company's context.  Ok, so am I totally thick or
are the objectives of the RHCE exam not explicitly listed on-line?

Working on the assumption that they are basically the "what you will learn"
bullets from the courses, I have extracted a list of learning objectives and
ranked their importance to this position.  I have these questions for anyone
familiar with the course or exam ("objectives" are marked with a plus sign):

+Configure inetd
+Configure basic host security
+Local security

What distinguishes these three items (or are they redundancies across RHCE
courses)?

+Red Hat Linux-based security tools (???)
Which are???  Does this mean stock tools (ipchains, tcp_wrappers, etc.) or
is there something else I'm missing?

+Overview of OSS security tools
Here's my list; am I missing any?  How/why is this different from the "Red
Hat Linux-based security tools" objective?
portsentry, tripwire, libsafe, logwatch, ipchains, bastille Linux, ssh, scp

+Create and maintain (?) the Linux filesystem
Could anyone flesh out what 'maintain' means?  Is this just running fsck
periodically? or more than that?  It doesn't seem that I do much maintenance
so I'm probably ignorant of this aspect...

+Perform common file maintenance tasks
+Perform basic troubleshooting
+Kernel security
+Security sources and methods
+Control common system hardware
Does anyone care to flesh these out more?  What tasks/concepts/commands am I
supposed to teach?

Thanks VERY MUCH!

-Alan


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Re: Intel eepro100 problem

2000-07-31 Thread Jake McHenry


This has happened a couple of times to me, but it was due to bad network cards,
creating the broadcast storm. Caused a lot of problems, no one could do
anything, locked up everyone's computer that was in that subnet. We replaced the
nic and everything goes back to normal.

Jake


On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Dan Horth wrote:

--not to do with embedded NICs but we have had problems with our 
--eepro100 cards in our file servers and netatalk which involved the 
--server freezing (and workstations connected to it) as the eepro100 
--flooded the network with... uhm... network activity - sorry - hapened 
--ages ago and really busy here so I can't be much more helpful at this 
--stage - except to say that I have added:
--
--options eepro100 multicast_filter_limit=3
--
--to /etc/conf.modules as advised on the netatalk list and that fixed 
--our lock-up problems... I think there is documentation about this on 
--donald becker's site.
--
--HTH - dan.
--
--At 4:56 PM -0400 28/7/00, Kevin Wood wrote:
--Has anyone else been having problems with the Intel eepro100 embedded
--NICs?  I have a few customers that have been complaining of drop-outs
 
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Re: cdrecord error

2000-07-31 Thread Kirk

shmget is a shared memory error, not sure how to help on this. How much
memory do you have?

Kirk

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Steve Lee wrote:

 what does this mean?
 Cdrecord 1.8 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 Jrg Schilling
 TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
 /usr/bin/cdrecord: No space left on device. shmget failed
 
 i get this sometimes when i try to 
 burn cds.  When i reboot it works fine.
 but its getting old rebooting everytime.
 
 
 

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