Re: Upgrade distribution while system is running
On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Pekka Savola wrote: On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Jag wrote: You can do this with kickstart. On all your machines install the initrd and vmlinux from the net boot disk, add a lilo entry for reinstall that uses them and include an append="ks=nfs:nfs.server.domainname:/path/to/kickstartsconfigs" line for that entry. Then you can just reboot with that lilo entry. You can then ssh in, use 'lilo -R' to tell it to use your reinstall lilo entry, then reboot and the machine will automatically reboot and reinstall assuming you have the kickstarts setup properly. I've seen this sorta thing put into production and it works quite nicely. Good point. With a little bit of trickery, it seems it could be done. Kickstart probably reboots after the upgrade is finished, too. Hmm, would be usable but I think of two things: 1. It would be cute to have a script line mkkickstart which generates the config for an Upgrade (easy i think) 2. One might have to make sure if there is enough disk-space for the upgrade, before you launch it. (but how?) However, the only option there (for network install) seems to be NFS. At least my version of it doesn't mention other installation methods such as HTTP or FTP at all; usually, setting up an FTP/HTTP server is probably more secure too (no need to run portmap + rpc.statd, etc. cruft). and these are availiable more oten than NFS (firewalls, ...) But of course, the real beauty would be in an _attended_ live upgrade.. like anaconda that could be run (with certain limitations) from multiuser mode. Sure :) LLP Ulrich -- ,-, .-.,,--- | | / / |,---' Ulrich KiermayrInst. for Theoret. Physics, Univ. of Vienna | |/ /| ||_ ICQ: 17858333eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ( | | _:Web: http://www.thp.univie.ac.at/~kie | |\ \| || @Home: Dampierrestr. 4/5, A-1140 Vienna; +43(699)19671909 | | \ \ |`---, @Work: Boltzmanngasse 5, A-1090 Vienna; +43(1)4277/51555 `-' `-'''--- UNIX enhancements aren't. ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
Re: Upgrade distribution while system is running
On Fri, 04 Aug 2000, Ulrich Kiermayr wrote: Hmm, would be usable but I think of two things: 1. It would be cute to have a script line mkkickstart which generates the config for an Upgrade (easy i think) 2. One might have to make sure if there is enough disk-space for the upgrade, before you launch it. (but how?) Admitedly, this method of doing remote kickstart upgrades is only really practical in a setup where you have many identical workstation machines out on the network, or just one or two machines that you can mimic the hardware on and test beforehand, this way you know beforehand what has been installed on them and just how big their harddrives are. And if you use dhcp, it gives you the advantage of only having to make one ks.cfg as opposed to one for each machine, with a different network line for each. Jag ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
Re: NE2000 COMPATIBILITY SOS!!!!
This will be fixed in the next release of Red Hat Linux. Matt On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 05:35:28PM +0100, Adrian Browne wrote: I'm trying to get rid of NT and 95 form 10 workstations and can't roll out Redhat6.2 as NIC's dont appear to ne2000 compat. Does anyone know about the kingston cards and ne2000 compatibility. The card is supposed to be NE2000 compatible and it is under NT and 95, however the chipset onboard when uncovered by Kingstons markup badge is an RTL8019AS RMC the model of the kingston card is a KNE20T - KNE20BT. Ive tried the ne module under linuxconf and the rtl8139 (as a guess) but to no avail. Can NE1 help. Much appreciated ADRIAN ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
Re: rpmdb conversion?
It seems that you have some db 3.0 databases -- you must have been caught in the middle of the db1 - db3.0 - db3.1 thing. To migrate to db 3.1, you'll need to change your database back to a db1 database, then upgrade the rpm and db3 packages to db3.1, then migrate from db1 back to db3. Here's how you do this: with the rpm built against db3.0 (not 3.1), and with db3-3.0* installed: rpm --rebuilddb --dbapi 3 --rebuilddbapi 1 rpm -Uvh rpm-*4.0-0.66* db3-3.1* rpm --rebuilddb --dbapi 1 --rebuilddbapi 3 rpm --rebuilddb (just to make sure everything is sane...) Matt On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 03:51:43PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: How to convert the rpm database to version 3 vithout starting from scratch?? Current database: $file /var/lib/rpm/Packages /var/lib/rpm/Packages: Berkeley DB 2.X Hash/Little Endian (Version 6, Logical sequence number: file - 0, offset - 0, Bucket Size 8192, Overflow Point 2048, Last Freed 162, Max Bucket 0, High Mask 0xfba, Low Mask 0x808, Fill Factor 965394758, Number of Keys 0) Current rpm (mix of 4.0-0.33 and cvs): $/bin/rpm-4.0cvs -q rpm rpm-4.0-0.56 Newly installed rpm: $rpm -qvvv rpm D: opening db index /var/lib/rpm/Packages rdonly mode=0x0 db3 error(-30990) performing db-open: DB_OLDVERSION: Database requires a version upgrade Installed DB's: $/bin/rpm-4.0cvs -q db1 db1-1.85-1.3 $/bin/rpm-4.0cvs -q db2 db2-2.4.14-2 $/bin/rpm-4.0cvs -q db3 db3-3.1.14-2.2 db3-3.0.55-0.12 ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
Re: Upgrade distribution while system is running
On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Pekka Savola wrote: Hmm, would be usable but I think of two things: 1. It would be cute to have a script line mkkickstart which generates the config for an Upgrade (easy i think) mkkickstart is for cloning the same release; it does not cope well with upgrades where packages get renamed, split up differently or otherwise reoganised. It could not know that xntp3 is not part of RHL 7, thought the RHL 7 upgrade just might take account of it. ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
New User Question: Serial Ports/Mouse
Hello all, For the last two days, I have been trying to get RedHat 6.2 (Zoot) loaded. It goes ok for the most part, except for getting my mouse to function. I am installing on an older mini-tower with a P-90, 128 megs of RAM and a 3.2 gig HDD. As everything is starting up, I get a message that says (roughly) that the x startup failed and it is falling back to text mode. When I go from there, the mouse nevers seems to be picked up. The mouse is a generic 3 button serial mouse. The unit has two com ports, a nine pin and a 25 pin. I have tried it on both (using a 9 to 25 adapter on Com2). I have installed Windows 98 SE on this same unit and it picks up the mouse just fine. I ran a DOS based util that says the ports are there and ok. They also show on the BIOS boot screen. For grins, I grabbed a copy of Mandrake 7.0 on CD-ROM and created a boot disk with rawrite. I get the same response from it. So, I am really confused. The only thing that I can thing of is that this generic mouse is too generic and not recognized by the two Linux installs. Any suggestions or ideas as to getting it to work? The fact that both RH and Mandrake don't see it seems to be a real bit of coincidence. Thanks! David -- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats. -- H.L. Mencken ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
PLEASE HELP ME
Hi All,
I am resending the mail i sent yesterday. Please help me in this
case. I need the newsgroup to be set very urgently. Moreover, apart from
what i have mentioned in my earlier mail (which is attached along with
this mail) , i am pasting the errlog entries i found in
/var/log/news/errlog file.
---
/usr/lib/news/bin/startinnfeed: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NOFILE, RLIM_INFINITY):
Operation not permitted
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I am not able to understand as to where i have gone wrong. and now i want
this newgroup to be setup asap. THEREFORE I REQUEST EVERYBODY IN THIS LIST
TO HELP ME OUT IN THIS CASE.
Any constructive help would be highly appreicable
Regards
K.Deepak
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K.DEEPAK
AdventNet Development Centre (India) Pvt Ltd
Phone : +91-44-2432414,2432748,2432749
Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, K.Deepak wrote:
Hi All,
At last i was able to configure newsgroup. I had a sigh of relief that
i configured newsgroup for my internal office purpose. I included topics
like training,basics of networking , basics on my company products etc.
But Alas !
I FACING A BIG PROBLEM NOW.
My newsgroup works fine for only three to four hours or so. and after
this it dies. Meaning nobody is able to connect to the newsgroup server
in my office. I tried to stop the innd service. But i get the following
error message.
No innd.pid file; did server die?
Can't send "shutdown" command (sendto failure) Connection refused.
innd innwatch
And after this the innd service is unable to open the port 119 itself.
and nobody is able to connect to the newsgroup server. (ie. after doing
a /etc/rc.d/init.d/innd start)
But when i reboot my newsgroup server then, the innd starts properly
and opens up the port 119 and everybody is able to connect to the
newsgroup server, post messages, read messages etc. But again, this
remains only for 3 hours or so.
THEREFORE, CAN ANYONE HELP ME OUT IN THIS !!! I WANT THE INND
SERVICE TO FUNCTION ROUND THE CLOCK. AND PLEASE EXPLAIN THE REASON AS TO
WHY IT DIES.
I NEED IT VERY VERY URGENTLY.
I hope that i have conveyed myself clear.
I SINCERERLY BEG YOU ALL TO HELP IN THIS MATTER.
Eagerly waiting for the reply
TIA
Regards
K.Deepak
On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 06:02:45PM +0530, K.Deepak wrote:
:I have successfully installed innd ( InterNet News
: Deamon) for my office. This newsgroup is only meant for my internal
: purposes. viz, i will maintain newsgroup on baiscs topics like java,
: advanced java, linux, networking etc.
:
: The default setup of this innd is working fine. meaning , i am able to
: post and read the messages with the default newsgroup such as test,
: junk, control etc.
:
: But i am not able to add any new newsgroup category. Can anyone help
me
: out in this . Please give me a step to step procedure as i have to set
: this up asap.
man ctlinnd
As the user news:
ctlinnd newgroup local.foo y creator-name
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Re: PLEASE HELP ME
Hello: To help you with your problem more info is needed. I run an INN 2.2.2 server on RH 6.0. I was able to get most of my help from a site called mibsoftware.com. For a small fee they will allow access to the sites config files for a standard INN setup. What version of INN are you running? Can you give more log file info from /var/log/messages rather than the errlog. Is this server a reader or a feeding server or both. You say you set up a newsgroup. I assume you mean your running an internal newserver for local use by a small group or are you receiving newsgroups via a downstream provider via push feed or whatever method. There is a newsgroup called I believe news.software.nntp that dives deep into this. There are many linux users on this list also that can help in your configuration. You can access this group via deja.com unless you have a usenet news service. The best way I have found to set up a INN is to get the latest tar file and configure it yourself. There is a setup file that asks many questions about how you will be using INN that results in a good INN setup. That was with RH 6.0 though. The INN version with 6.2 may be a little easier to configure but again I would need more info to steer you in the right direction and so would the folks on the news.software.nntp list. Info such as your storage method, your INN version, a good snip of your /var/log/messages. I hope this helps. Best of Luck, Eddie Strohmier On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:01:24 +0530 (IST) kdeepak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, I am resending the mail i sent yesterday. Please help me in this case. I need the newsgroup to be set very urgently. Moreover, apart from what i have mentioned in my earlier mail (which is attached along with this mail) , i am pasting the errlog entries i found in /var/log/news/errlog file. - -- /usr/lib/news/bin/startinnfeed: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NOFILE, RLIM_INFINITY): Operation not permitted - -- I am not able to understand as to where i have gone wrong. and now i want this newgroup to be setup asap. THEREFORE I REQUEST EVERYBODY IN THIS LIST TO HELP ME OUT IN THIS CASE. Any constructive help would be highly appreicable Regards K.Deepak - -- K.DEEPAK AdventNet Development Centre (India) Pvt Ltd Phone : +91-44-2432414,2432748,2432749 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, K.Deepak wrote: Hi All, At last i was able to configure newsgroup. I had a sigh of relief that i configured newsgroup for my internal office purpose. I included topics like training,basics of networking , basics on my company products etc. But Alas ! I FACING A BIG PROBLEM NOW. My newsgroup works fine for only three to four hours or so. and after this it dies. Meaning nobody is able to connect to the newsgroup server in my office. I tried to stop the innd service. But i get the following error message. No innd.pid file; did server die? Can't send "shutdown" command (sendto failure) Connection refused. innd innwatch And after this the innd service is unable to open the port 119 itself. and nobody is able to connect to the newsgroup server. (ie. after doing a /etc/rc.d/init.d/innd start) But when i reboot my newsgroup server then, the innd starts properly and opens up the port 119 and everybody is able to connect to the newsgroup server, post messages, read messages etc. But again, this remains only for 3 hours or so. THEREFORE, CAN ANYONE HELP ME OUT IN THIS !!! I WANT THE INND SERVICE TO FUNCTION ROUND THE CLOCK. AND PLEASE EXPLAIN THE REASON AS TO WHY IT DIES. I NEED IT VERY VERY URGENTLY. I hope that i have conveyed myself clear. I SINCERERLY BEG YOU ALL TO HELP IN THIS MATTER. Eagerly waiting for the reply TIA Regards K.Deepak On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 06:02:45PM +0530, K.Deepak wrote: :I have successfully installed innd ( InterNet News : Deamon) for my office. This newsgroup is only meant for my internal : purposes. viz, i will maintain newsgroup on baiscs topics like java, : advanced java, linux, networking etc. : : The default setup of this innd is working fine. meaning , i am able to : post and read the messages with the default newsgroup such as test, : junk, control etc. : : But i am not able to add any new newsgroup category. Can anyone help me : out in this . Please give me a step to step procedure as i have to set : this up asap. man ctlinnd As the user news: ctlinnd newgroup local.foo y
etherlink III
Hello, I installed the RH 6.2 with a local ftp from the bootnet.img floppy, without problem. But at the boot time I received an error message : Bringing up interface eth0 Delaying eth0 initialisation FAILED. I use a 3com Etherlink III 3c509/3cr09b with io 0x300 and irq 10, even to pass this parameters via lilo. Known you this problem? How to resolve this? Thanks for your help. DISCLAIMER "This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation." ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: etherlink III
Hi, The installer is broken. Add: alias eth0 3c509 to your /etc/conf.modules Regards Gustav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I installed the RH 6.2 with a local ftp from the bootnet.img floppy, without problem. But at the boot time I received an error message : Bringing up interface eth0 Delaying eth0 initialisation FAILED. I use a 3com Etherlink III 3c509/3cr09b with io 0x300 and irq 10, even to pass this parameters via lilo. Known you this problem? How to resolve this? Thanks for your help. -- pgp = Pretty Good Privacy. To get my public pgp key, send an e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at http://www.schaffter.com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Redirection of URL
Place this in your head section of index.html on foo.com meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;URL=http://www.foo.com/" This will immediatly send the person trying to access the foo.com to www.foo.com or you could set the "content=X;" value to a higher number for a delay, incase you would want to post a redirect message to the people. On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, kapil sharma wrote: --Hi, --I am using apache 1.3.12 with Redhat 6.2. I want to redirect one url to --other url. For example if some request comes for --http://foo.com --then the url should redirect to --http://www.foo.com -- --What should i do for that? -- --Thank you --kapil -- -- -- -- --___ --Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] --https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Jake McHenry [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
samba
Hi, I am running RedHat 6.2 and have it set up to serve my home network which consists of two win 98 machines. I set up Samba and everything works fine except when i try to transfer this one large file which is about 800 megs. It basically freezes my system about 75% through the transfer and I have to do a hard reboot. With smaller files there is no problem. Can anyone give me an idea why this is happening. With this exception samba is working great. Thanks Rick ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Remote printer problem
Hello I have just installed Red Hat 6.2 in one of the PCs in the lab. The printer is attached to a Red Hat 6.1 box and works fine (two NTs using samba and a Solaris 2.6 can print without a problem). I tried to use printtool to set up the printer (as remote printer) on the Red Hat 6.2 but the system keeps sending deamon errors (deamon not started on the remote host). Red Hat 6.1 was broken as far as printer is concerned. Is Red Hat 6.2 too? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Ed ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: samba
I haven't experienced this situation personally, but several other RedHat users where I work have seen very similar behavior with large ftp or nfs file transfers. It seems like a pretty serious driver/filesystem problem lies at the root *somewhere*, but so far we've got no leads. -Original Message- From: Rick Knebel To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 8/4/00 6:49 AM Subject: samba Hi, I am running RedHat 6.2 and have it set up to serve my home network which consists of two win 98 machines. I set up Samba and everything works fine except when i try to transfer this one large file which is about 800 megs. It basically freezes my system about 75% through the transfer and I have to do a hard reboot. With smaller files there is no problem. Can anyone give me an idea why this is happening. With this exception samba is working great. Thanks Rick ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Samba - another glitch
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Glen Lee Edwards wrote: Check the manual page for smbmount: -f, -u and -g are the flags you're looking for. Apparently I have a different version than you do. grin Sure you do, but the same man page that you pasted into your reply contains the answer though: uid=arg sets the uid that files will be mounted as. It may be specified as either a username or a numeric uid. gid=arg sets the gid that files will be mounted as. It may be specified as either a groupname or a numeric gid. snipped fmask=arg sets the file mask. This deterines the permissions that remote files have in the local filesystem. The default is based on the current umask. dmask=arg sets the directory mask. This deterines the permis sions that remote directories have in the local filesystem. The default is based on the current umask. -- Nitebirdz http://www.linuxnovice.org Tips, articles, news, links... ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Kambiz Aghaiepour wrote: On a lighter note, I'm personally glad to have the list under Mailman. Just a few more lists to go and I decomission the old box!!! Just out of technical curiosity: what were the reasons that make you decide to switch to Mailman? -- Nitebirdz http://www.linuxnovice.org Tips, articles, news, links... ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Getting L I on boot, please help
Hi everybody, i was trying to install Red hat 6.2 after i had installed win98. However in the installation i checked the boxes to start from MBR, and 'dos' as a default option on boot up. As a result when the pc reboots, it shows just 'L I' and freezes. Please, tell me where did i go wrong and what i can do to make it right so it can give me the choice for either dos or linux at booting up...without freezing up on me of course?! Thanks to all !!! Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Where is make
Hi Sorry for a dumb question but I just build me first 6.2 system with instructions make up by one of my employees before he left on vacation. Now I can not do a "make". Can you please tell me what additional modules I must install to be able to do it. Do I need to reinstall or can I do some sort of update and just add the packages? Thanks and please excuse any spelling or english error. I am frazzled this morning. Jim Baxter Morrison Supply Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
network error---Red hat 6.1
A box was down earlier, you could ping it but, the site itself was down. Net 9 messages suppressed Suspect short first fragment eth0 PROTO=6 2xx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:00 l=20 s-0X00 the first IP addy ( the x's, of course ) is foreign, the second is the box's ip. was the box hacked or something else? thanks, Chris ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Conversion of Favorite (MSIE) to Bookmark (Netscape-Linux)
On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi all people, Kindly advise how to convert Favorite (MS InternetExplorer) to Bookmark (Netscape-Linux). Thanks in advance. Stephen Last time I checked, I went to http://www.freshmeat.net and did a search for somnething like "internet explorer" and it came up with a couple of them. Give it a try. -- Nitebirdz http://www.linuxnovice.org Tips, articles, news, links... ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Getting L I on boot, please help
On 4 Aug 2000, George Georgiev wrote: Hi everybody, i was trying to install Red hat 6.2 after i had installed win98. However in the installation i checked the boxes to start from MBR, and 'dos' as a default option on boot up. As a result when the pc reboots, it shows just 'L I' and freezes. Please, tell me where did i go wrong and what i can do to make it right so it can give me the choice for either dos or linux at booting up...without freezing up on me of course?! The "LILO User's Guide" includes a nice section on the meaning of these start messages: http://www.yggdrasil.com/bible/lilo/user/node68.html#SECTION0062 As far as I remember, if it gets stuck at the LI prompt it is usually due to a problem with the disk geometry. -- Nitebirdz http://www.linuxnovice.org Tips, articles, news, links... ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Where is make
Jim Baxter wrote: Hi Sorry for a dumb question but I just build me first 6.2 system with instructions make up by one of my employees before he left on vacation. Now I can not do a "make". Can you please tell me what additional modules I must install to be able to do it. Do I need to reinstall or can I do some sort of update and just add the packages? You need to install the make RPM. In 6.2, it's called make-3.78.1-4, and is on your CD, in RedHat/RPMS ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: ---- X server
Were there any posts to answer this? If there were, I didn't get them. This happened to me at one point, I reinstalled and it fixed it, but I would like to know, if there is one, another way to fix the problem. Thanks, Jake Original Message Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:23:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Nianwei Xing [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RHL] X server Hi, there: I have a question that Now I can only start x server with root. When I login from the usual account and type startx it give the following erron: Authentication failed--cannot start X server. Perhaps you do not have console console ownership? _X11TranSocketXConnect: Can't connect:errno = 111 give up xinit: Connetction refused (errno=111) unable to connetc to X server xinit: No such process(errno 3): Server error. Does anybody know how to handle this problem? THanks a lot! Nianwei ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
what happened to [RHL]
Why did the subject attachment dissappear? I loved that, it let me know where the message was coming from, because I'm on a lot of lists, and it really pops out with [RHL] in the subject. I thought it was a good idea. Jake McHenry [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Where is make
On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Jim Baxter wrote: Sorry for a dumb question but I just build me first 6.2 system with instructions make up by one of my employees before he left on vacation. Now I can not do a "make". Can you please tell me what additional modules I must install to be able to do it. You need the "make" package. ;) rpm -i /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/make* LLaP bero ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: what happened to [RHL]
On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Jake McHenry wrote: Why did the subject attachment dissappear? Because some people hated it. I loved that Try: cat .procmailrc EOF :0 f: * ^X-Loop:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED] | sed -e "s/^Subject: /Subject: [RHL] /" EOF LLaP bero ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: test
On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, wong wrote: can i install gnome on server class linux ? I'm not sure I understand the question. If you're asking if it is possible to select server class install during the installation process but adding Gnome to it then there is a good chance that you cannot do it, I suppose. My guess is that those categories are locked in, and if you need to install something else you are better off by choosing the custom category. However, if you are asking if it is possible to install Gnome _after_ the installation is complete the answer is that it is perfectly possible. You can just install the RPM files from the CD-ROM itself, or even go to the HelixGnome site (http://www.helixcode.com) and download it from there (their version is _really_ easy to install). Either way, I wouldn't recommend running Gnome on a server. Why have an application hogging your resources when you should be using them all for serving purposes? I'd rather run the server in console mode or if anything run a simple lightweight window manager such as fvwm. -- Nitebirdz http://www.linuxnovice.org Tips, articles, news, links... ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
help
thank... yes. i want to install it after install the class server i very new in linux. , i have the linux pro version, CD with me.. i want to install linux server and apache server can you give me some guide ? 1) can i run netscape on the server ? if not install gnome how to browe ? 2) if i have setup the apacehe , how to i browse it ? thank wong - Original Message - From: Nitebirdz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 3:58 PM Subject: Re: test On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, wong wrote: can i install gnome on server class linux ? I'm not sure I understand the question. If you're asking if it is possible to select server class install during the installation process but adding Gnome to it then there is a good chance that you cannot do it, I suppose. My guess is that those categories are locked in, and if you need to install something else you are better off by choosing the custom category. However, if you are asking if it is possible to install Gnome _after_ the installation is complete the answer is that it is perfectly possible. You can just install the RPM files from the CD-ROM itself, or even go to the HelixGnome site (http://www.helixcode.com) and download it from there (their version is _really_ easy to install). Either way, I wouldn't recommend running Gnome on a server. Why have an application hogging your resources when you should be using them all for serving purposes? I'd rather run the server in console mode or if anything run a simple lightweight window manager such as fvwm. -- Nitebirdz http://www.linuxnovice.org Tips, articles, news, links... ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
patition dispear
hi, I installed redhat 6.0. And now I found that I can't boot linux. And I ran fdisk of linux, I found that the linux patition dispeared. What had happened ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RHL Digest
I am a life time pine user and the old RHL Digests used to be easily displayed by pine. Each message was sort of an attachment. Anway, I can not do that with this new digest format. Anybody know why?? Something bad on my end?? I second that! The previous format came through as a single message with multiple attachments which worked fine in Outlook, Outlook Express and Pine. Now it's just a long message... which sucks. :-( Can we go back to how it was, please? And, I didn't get any digests for over a month. Thought I'd been unsubbed actually. I third that. The message boundaries are not as clear as before. That slows me down when I'm skimming for a particular message. I have to find the subject tag and read it, then, ever so carefully, scroll forward to find the next subject tag, etc. The subject tag should be so obvious that it will jump up and throttle you, if you accidentally pass it by. -Bob Glover ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: what happened to [RHL]
Why did the subject attachment dissappear? I loved that, it let me know where the message was coming from, because I'm on a lot of lists, and it really pops out with [RHL] in the subject. I thought it was a good idea. Jake McHenry See!!! I'm not the only one :-) MB -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must have programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99] Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: PLEASE HELP ME
Hi Eddie , Thanks for the detail info. I am sending all the things that you had asked. Basically i have setup newsgroup for my internal purpose. Solely for my office purposes. The different news group categories that i have created are training, basics of java, advance java etc. My inn version is inn-1.7.2-14 and i am running this on RedHat 5.2 pc. I installed inn using the inn rpm that was available in the cd. When i initially configured this , everything worked correct for me for three hours or so. But after my newsgroup crashes and the port 119 not at all initializes. That's why i get the following error when i try to stop the inn daemon. No innd.pid file; did server die? Can't send "shutdown" command (sendto failure) Connection refused. innd innwatch Moreover, i have tarred my whole /var/log/news directory so that you can view my entire log file. I am attaching the newslog.tgz file along with this mail. Please help me out in this. Looking forward your response Regards K.Deepak Eddie Strohmier wrote: Hello: To help you with your problem more info is needed. I run an INN 2.2.2 server on RH 6.0. I was able to get most of my help from a site called mibsoftware.com. For a small fee they will allow access to the sites config files for a standard INN setup. What version of INN are you running? Can you give more log file info from /var/log/messages rather than the errlog. Is this server a reader or a feeding server or both. You say you set up a newsgroup. I assume you mean your running an internal newserver for local use by a small group or are you receiving newsgroups via a downstream provider via push feed or whatever method. There is a newsgroup called I believe news.software.nntp that dives deep into this. There are many linux users on this list also that can help in your configuration. You can access this group via deja.com unless you have a usenet news service. The best way I have found to set up a INN is to get the latest tar file and configure it yourself. There is a setup file that asks many questions about how you will be using INN that results in a good INN setup. That was with RH 6.0 though. The INN version with 6.2 may be a little easier to configure but again I would need more info to steer you in the right direction and so would the folks on the news.software.nntp list. Info such as your storage method, your INN version, a good snip of your /var/log/messages. I hope this helps. Best of Luck, Eddie Strohmier On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:01:24 +0530 (IST) kdeepak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, I am resending the mail i sent yesterday. Please help me in this case. I need the newsgroup to be set very urgently. Moreover, apart from what i have mentioned in my earlier mail (which is attached along with this mail) , i am pasting the errlog entries i found in /var/log/news/errlog file. - -- /usr/lib/news/bin/startinnfeed: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NOFILE, RLIM_INFINITY): Operation not permitted - -- I am not able to understand as to where i have gone wrong. and now i want this newgroup to be setup asap. THEREFORE I REQUEST EVERYBODY IN THIS LIST TO HELP ME OUT IN THIS CASE. Any constructive help would be highly appreicable Regards K.Deepak - -- K.DEEPAK AdventNet Development Centre (India) Pvt Ltd Phone : +91-44-2432414,2432748,2432749 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, K.Deepak wrote: Hi All, At last i was able to configure newsgroup. I had a sigh of relief that i configured newsgroup for my internal office purpose. I included topics like training,basics of networking , basics on my company products etc. But Alas ! I FACING A BIG PROBLEM NOW. My newsgroup works fine for only three to four hours or so. and after this it dies. Meaning nobody is able to connect to the newsgroup server in my office. I tried to stop the innd service. But i get the following error message. No innd.pid file; did server die? Can't send "shutdown" command (sendto failure) Connection refused. innd innwatch And after this the innd service is unable to open the port 119 itself. and nobody is able to connect to the newsgroup server. (ie. after doing a /etc/rc.d/init.d/innd start) But when i reboot my newsgroup server then, the innd starts properly and opens up the port 119 and everybody is able to connect to the newsgroup server, post messages, read messages etc. But again, this remains only for 3 hours or so. THEREFORE, CAN ANYONE HELP ME OUT IN
Re: what happened to [RHL]
- Original Message - From: "Vidiot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 9:17 AM Subject: Re: what happened to [RHL] Why did the subject attachment dissappear? I loved that, it let me know where the message was coming from, because I'm on a lot of lists, and it really pops out with [RHL] in the subject. I thought it was a good idea. Jake McHenry See!!! I'm not the only one :-) MB -- i rather liked it myself also. all of my other lists i am on provide the list attachment header, why are people so fearfull of just the slightist change?? i liked it, please put it back. eric ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RHL Digest
Ok folks. I've changed the option in Mailman under digest member options that reads: When receiving digests, which format is default? to be set to "MIME" The old setting was "Plain". Robert, could you please respond and let me know if the digest mode looks better? (everyone else, please don't respond) Kambiz Robert Glover wrote: I am a life time pine user and the old RHL Digests used to be easily displayed by pine. Each message was sort of an attachment. Anway, I can not do that with this new digest format. Anybody know why?? Something bad on my end?? I second that! I third that. -- \o__O o Kambiz Aghaiepour, RHCE -Phone: (919) 524-7423 o o \_ /|\ -= Red Hat, Inc. =- |\| Pager: (800) 946-4646 //\ //\ |\ |\ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | | Pager Pin #: 1412622 // // / / |/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.redhat.com |\ || ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: [RHL] Re: what happened to [RHL]
Use Bero's procmail script he just posted a couple emails before this one. Works great. Here it is again, only too a second to type. [kirk@death Kirk]$ cat .procmailrc EOF :0 f: * ^X-Loop:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED] | sed -e "s/^Subject: /Subject: [RHL] /" EOF You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/kirk [kirk@death Kirk]$ On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, eric clover wrote: - Original Message - From: "Vidiot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 9:17 AM Subject: [RHL] Re: what happened to [RHL] Why did the subject attachment dissappear? I loved that, it let me know where the message was coming from, because I'm on a lot of lists, and it really pops out with [RHL] in the subject. I thought it was a good idea. Jake McHenry See!!! I'm not the only one :-) MB -- i rather liked it myself also. all of my other lists i am on provide the list attachment header, why are people so fearfull of just the slightist change?? i liked it, please put it back. eric ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Kirk Whiting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Admin. prince-of-darkness.cc , thrust66.com ---"Unix IS the Future"--- ''Win: Please Reboot You Moved Your Mouse'' ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
X server
Hi, there: I have a question about my X server: when I logon with my username and type startx it give the following error message: Authenticaiton failed _ cannnot connet to X server Perhaps you do not have console ownership? (after 30 seconds stop): giving up. cannot Connect to X server(errno=111) have no such process (errno=3). However, when I logon in with the root, it works. Also I have check the files /usr/X11R6/bin/X with the mode lrwxrwxrwx and the file /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit with the mode: rwxr-xr- and the file /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwrapper with the mode -rws--x--x. Does anybody know how to fix this problem? THanks Nianwei __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
AYUDA
Hola: Tengo problemas en el servidor de correo electrónico que administro en un computador que está instalado el S.O. Linux Red Hat 4.1. Cuando ingreso a una cuenta tengo errores: Como por ejemplo el siguiente: Red Hat Linux release 4.1 (Vanderbilt) Kernel 2.0.27 on an i486 login: fr Password: -bash: can't open cache '/etc/ld.so.cache' bash: /etc/profile: Permission denied bash$ Además, no funciona el correo electrónico (no recibe, tampoco envía mensajes). Cuando inicio el proceso servidor de correo electrónico me responde que no tengo permiso para tar acción, como el siguiente: # sendmail -bd -q5h 451 /etc/sendmail.cf: line 41: fileclass: cannot open /etc/sendmail.cw: Permission denied Qué debo hacer para solucionar dicho problema? Es de suma urgencia resolver este problema. Agradeciendo de antemano vuestra amable atención me despido con un saludo cordial, atte. Nelson Butrón V. e-mails: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cel.: (591) 01840503 Oruro, Bolivia ___ Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html ___ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: help
On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, wong wrote: thank... yes. i want to install it after install the class server i very new in linux. , i have the linux pro version, CD with me.. i want to install linux server and apache server Apache should install by default if you select to do the server class install. can you give me some guide ? 1) can i run netscape on the server ? if not install gnome how to browe ? After the installation is complete, check out and see if Netscape was installed (I don't remember if it does by default in the server class install): rpm -qi netscape If it doesn't show the package as being installed, simply mount the CD-ROM (mount /mnt/cdrom should do it) and install the netscape RPM. You can also download the package from the Net. I always recommend a place like http://www.filewatcher.org where you can do a search for something like "netscape*rpm" or http://www.rpmfind.org. They are both pretty good. In the case of Gnome, you can also install the packages off the CD but the HelixGnome installation I mentioned in the previous message is amazingly easy and I never had any problem with it. 2) if i have setup the apacehe , how to i browse it ? Once Apache has been installed, your pages will be in /home/httpd/html by default, and the CGI scripts will be under /home/httpd/cgi-bin. In order to see the site, open your Netscape and browse to http://127.0.0.1 or your system's IP or hostname. That should do it. Again, as I said in my previous message, I wouldn't recomend running Gnome on a server install. Also, regarding Netscape, the browser is affected every now and then by some security bugs that could introduce unwanted trojan horses in your server. Not recommended either. :-) -- Nitebirdz http://www.linuxnovice.org Tips, articles, news, links... ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Why is list reply set to user?
It is real annoying that the reply of messages sent to the list is set to the poster of the message. Too many times I have told it to send the message, forgetting to change the To: line. This is the ONLY list that I am subscribed to that has this WRONG (IMHO). Can we please get it changed? MB -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must have programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99] Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Reply-To: is missing
That explains why the mail wants to reply to the sender... the Reply-To: header line is missing. MB -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must have programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99] Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: X server
On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Nianwei Xing wrote: Hi, there: I have a question about my X server: when I logon with my username and type startx it give the following error message: Authenticaiton failed _ cannnot connet to X server Perhaps you do not have console ownership? (after 30 seconds stop): giving up. cannot Connect to X server(errno=111) have no such process (errno=3). However, when I logon in with the root, it works. Also I have check the files /usr/X11R6/bin/X with the mode lrwxrwxrwx and the file /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit with the mode: rwxr-xr- and the file /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwrapper with the mode -rws--x--x. Does anybody know how to fix this problem? I'm not a X Window expert by any means, but since I noticed that nobody replied and you seem to need some help _soon_ I decided to perform some searches on the Net to dig some information. Here is what I found: http://www.redhat.com/mailing-lists/redhat-devel-list/1999-9/msg00010.html http://www.redhat.com/support/wpapers/newpam/tinkering.html http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/net/0004.3/0097.html http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/net/0004.3/0106.html Sorry if this doesn't really answer your question. You may also want to try one of these commands instead plain startx: startx -display:0 startx -display:1 Just trying to help... :-) -- Nitebirdz http://www.linuxnovice.org Tips, articles, news, links... ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: [RHL] Re: what happened to [RHL]
Use Bero's procmail script he just posted a couple emails before this one. Works great. Here it is again, only too a second to type. As previously mentioned, that is assuming you are running procmail, can run procmail, or even want to run procmail. In my case, I don't, I could, I don't want to (nor should I have to). MB -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must have programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99] Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Digest Mode
When the list serv software changed those of use happily using digest mode and seeing individual messages show up as icons have been a little dissapointed to see a long list of messages listed as a header at the top of the message. To change this goto to the webpage listed at the top of the digest message and under the setting for digest change from text mode to MIME. Good luck David Brenner, Associate Environmental Scientist Harding ESE, A MACTEC Company 90 Digital Drive Novato, California 94949 Phone: 415.884.3153 Fax: 415.884.3300 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: AYUDA
On 4 Aug 2000, Nelson Butron wrote: Hola: Tengo problemas en el servidor de correo electrónico que administro en un computador que está instalado el S.O. Linux Red Hat 4.1. Cuando ingreso a una cuenta tengo errores: Como por ejemplo el siguiente: Red Hat Linux release 4.1 (Vanderbilt) Kernel 2.0.27 on an i486 login: fr Password: -bash: can't open cache '/etc/ld.so.cache' bash: /etc/profile: Permission denied bash$ Además, no funciona el correo electrónico (no recibe, tampoco envía mensajes). Cuando inicio el proceso servidor de correo electrónico me responde que no tengo permiso para tar acción, como el siguiente: # sendmail -bd -q5h 451 /etc/sendmail.cf: line 41: fileclass: cannot open /etc/sendmail.cw: Permission denied Qué debo hacer para solucionar dicho problema? Es de suma urgencia resolver este problema. Agradeciendo de antemano vuestra amable atención me despido con un saludo cordial, atte. Nelson Butrón V. Puedes proporcionar un poco mas de informacion, por ejemplo de /var/log/messages? Obtienes algunos errores alla tambien? Has comprobado los privilegios de root en esos ficheros que parecen estar causando el problema? Yo tambien le echaria un vistazo al sistema para asegurarme de que nadie lo ha corrompido. Este tipo de problemas es causado demasiado a menudo por piratas informaticos que entran en el sistema y despues tratan de borrar sus huellas. -- Nitebirdz http://www.linuxnovice.org Tips, articles, news, links... ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Modem Install Under Linux
I have a Motorola SM PCI 56 voice internal modem, that is not initializing or responding neither under kde nor gnome. Do you think i got one of those nasty Winmodems (cuz it works only under win98, it doesnt even work under win2000) If that's the case obviously i have to get a new one, what would you suggest, an external one, maybe US Robotics or something, Please if you have an idea can you direct me to a modem in the pricerange of $60-$80, external modem that will actually work without any problems under RH Linux 6.2 Thanks to everybody!!! Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Why is list reply set to user?
Does your email client program have a Reply-All operation? The problem with replies going to the list is that it takes away the option of replying solely to the poster. A reply-all will go to the poster and the list. This is the correct behavior. Kambiz Vidiot wrote: It is real annoying that the reply of messages sent to the list is set to the poster of the message. Too many times I have told it to send the message, forgetting to change the To: line. This is the ONLY list that I am subscribed to that has this WRONG (IMHO). Can we please get it changed? -- \o__O o Kambiz Aghaiepour, RHCE -Phone: (919) 524-7423 o o \_ /|\ -= Red Hat, Inc. =- |\| Pager: (800) 946-4646 //\ //\ |\ |\ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | | Pager Pin #: 1412622 // // / / |/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.redhat.com |\ || ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Why is list reply set to user?
Kambiz is right. That's the way it's supposed to work (but I sorta liked it the old way too) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kambiz Aghaiepour Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 11:14 AM To: Vidiot Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why is list reply set to user? Does your email client program have a Reply-All operation? The problem with replies going to the list is that it takes away the option of replying solely to the poster. A reply-all will go to the poster and the list. This is the correct behavior. Kambiz Vidiot wrote: It is real annoying that the reply of messages sent to the list is set to the poster of the message. Too many times I have told it to send the message, forgetting to change the To: line. This is the ONLY list that I am subscribed to that has this WRONG (IMHO). Can we please get it changed? -- \o__O o Kambiz Aghaiepour, RHCE -Phone: (919) 524-7423 o o \_ /|\ -= Red Hat, Inc. =- |\| Pager: (800) 946-4646 //\ //\ |\ |\ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | | Pager Pin #: 1412622 // // / / |/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.redhat.com |\ || ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: This silly [RHL] nonsense.
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000, you wrote: I agree, totally. When you subscribe to many lists and get 150 emails a day, it's very helpful to to have the prefix to quickly goto certain list messages. HmmONLY 150 messages per day? Heh. I get at LEAST two or three times that many! John ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Why is list reply set to user?
Kambiz is right. That's the way it's supposed to work (but I sorta liked it the old way too) NO, that is NOT the way it is supposed to work. A prime example is what happened with Kambiz's reply and my reply to you. What happened? You get TWO copies of the e-mail. The last thing I need is MORE e-mail in my mail box. As I mentioned, this is the ONLY list that I am on that replies to the sender and not the list. Sure, I can hit g)roup reply in elm, but as you can see, you end up with two pieces of e-mail, when one is all that is really needed, or necessary. MB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kambiz Aghaiepour Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 11:14 AM To: Vidiot Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why is list reply set to user? Does your email client program have a Reply-All operation? The problem with replies going to the list is that it takes away the option of replying solely to the poster. A reply-all will go to the poster and the list. This is the correct behavior. Kambiz Vidiot wrote: It is real annoying that the reply of messages sent to the list is set to the poster of the message. Too many times I have told it to send the message, forgetting to change the To: line. This is the ONLY list that I am subscribed to that has this WRONG (IMHO). Can we please get it changed? -- \o__O o Kambiz Aghaiepour, RHCE -Phone: (919) 524-7423 o o \_ /|\ -= Red Hat, Inc. =- |\| Pager: (800) 946-4646 //\ //\ |\ |\ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | | Pager Pin #: 1412622 // // / / |/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.redhat.com |\ || ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must have programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99] Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Modem Install Under Linux
On 4 Aug 2000, George Georgiev wrote: I have a Motorola SM PCI 56 voice internal modem, that is not initializing or responding neither under kde nor gnome. Do you think i got one of those nasty Winmodems (cuz it works only under win98, it doesnt even work under win2000) Yes, it appears to be a winmodem according to this information: http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html http://www.motorola.com/networking/products/softmodem.html Nevertheless, check out this other site in case they have the necessary drivers to run that modem: http://www.linmodems.org/ If that's the case obviously i have to get a new one, what would you suggest, an external one, maybe US Robotics or something, Please if you have an idea can you direct me to a modem in the pricerange of $60-$80, external modem that will actually work without any problems under RH Linux 6.2 In any case, even if you're able to make that modem work with Linux, you're better off by running a real hardware based modem. External modems are compatible pretty much all the time. A local store here in the Twin Cities appears to have them within your price range. I understand there is only a slim chance that you'll also be here in the Twin Cities but I'm including the link just to give you an idea about prices. :-) http://www.nanosys1.com/ -- Nitebirdz http://www.linuxnovice.org Tips, articles, news, links... ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: DLINK NIC module?
Thanks Gordon. It looks like this card is OK with the ne2k0pci module...however, my current dilemma is that it shares an IRQ with the display adaptor on the motherboard, so now I'm on a quest to figure out how to change the IRQ on the NIC. This stuff drives me nuts sometimes...;) At 05:32 PM 03/08/2000 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote: On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Mike Dickson wrote: Can someone point me to the well-hidden tips for getting the DLINK DE-528CT to work? I _think_ that card is supported by the via-rhine driver. Try : modprobe via-rhine and see if you get a message confirming the initialization of the card. However, I should warn you that this card may be troublesome. I've never used them under Linux, but there were some in use in my office under Windows a while back. Occasionally, the network would simply stop working, no traffic at all. We eventually tracked the problem to those cards, and confirmed the cause (unplug one the NIC's one by one until the offending NIC was found) to be a DLink network card. MSG ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
kickstart doesn't recognize NE 2000
Hi, I'm having a problem with kickstart under RH 6.2. I have an NE 2000 ISA network card, and I put "device eth ne" into my kickstart file. However, this doesn't work. One of the other virtual consoles says that the module ne is unknown. I have tried adding the IO address of the card using --opts, and that doesn't work either. This used to work under 6.0. Did they remove this driver from the boot disk? -Mark- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
[RHL] Re: what happened to [RHL]
That only works if the letter is posted to the list. I receive between 3000 and 4000 letters a week. I post several myself. When individuals reply to me personaly from a post I made to the list it helps GREATLY to have [RHL] in the subject matter, because if I get a letter from someone I don't recognize into my personal box I assume its another spam letter and delete it. If the line contains [RHL] in it then I know it's a letter responding to a post I made. It makes much more sence for those of you who don't want it to filter it out than for those of us who do want it to add it in. Glen On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Kirk wrote: Use Bero's procmail script he just posted a couple emails before this one. Works great. Here it is again, only too a second to type. [kirk@death Kirk]$ cat .procmailrc EOF :0 f: * ^X-Loop:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED] | sed -e "s/^Subject: /Subject: [RHL] /" EOF You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/kirk [kirk@death Kirk]$ On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, eric clover wrote: - Original Message - From: "Vidiot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 9:17 AM Subject: [RHL] Re: what happened to [RHL] Why did the subject attachment dissappear? I loved that, it let me know where the message was coming from, because I'm on a lot of lists, and it really pops out with [RHL] in the subject. I thought it was a good idea. Jake McHenry See!!! I'm not the only one :-) MB -- i rather liked it myself also. all of my other lists i am on provide the list attachment header, why are people so fearfull of just the slightist change?? i liked it, please put it back. eric ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Why is list reply set to user?
Vidiot wrote:
Kambiz is right. That's the way it's supposed to work (but I sorta
liked it the old way too)
NO, that is NOT the way it is supposed to work. A prime example is
what happened with Kambiz's reply and my reply to you. What happened?
You get TWO copies of the e-mail. The last thing I need is MORE e-mail
in my mail box.
As I mentioned, this is the ONLY list that I am on that replies to the
sender and not the list.
Sure, I can hit g)roup reply in elm, but as you can see, you end up with two
pieces of e-mail, when one is all that is really needed, or necessary.
At first I did not understand this thread. Has the list stopped adding the
Reply to header? I added the procmail recipe below since the list server would
not add one if it was set in the MUA. Therefore I did not see any change in
behavior. Here is my recipe for redhat-list messages.
# Add a Reply-To to redhat-list messages and send to the proper mailbox
:0
* ^X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
{
:0 f
| formail -A 'Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
:0:
Mail-lists/redhat-list
}
If the list has stopped setting the reply to, I would say this is not correct
behavior.
Bret
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Re: RHL Digest
That does look better. What would be really great is if the message separator --__--__-- was longer, so it would jump out. Of course by now, you must realize that no good deed goes un-punished :) Thanks! - Bob Glover Sample separator below: --__--__--__--__--__--__--__--__--__--__--__--__--__--__--__--__ Kambiz Aghaiepour wrote: Ok folks. I've changed the option in Mailman under digest member options that reads: When receiving digests, which format is default? to be set to "MIME" The old setting was "Plain". Robert, could you please respond and let me know if the digest mode looks better? (everyone else, please don't respond) Kambiz Robert Glover wrote: I am a life time pine user and the old RHL Digests used to be easily displayed by pine. Each message was sort of an attachment. Anway, I can not do that with this new digest format. Anybody know why?? Something bad on my end?? I second that! I third that. -- \o__O o Kambiz Aghaiepour, RHCE -Phone: (919) 524-7423 o o \_ /|\ -= Red Hat, Inc. =- |\| Pager: (800) 946-4646 //\ //\ |\ |\ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | | Pager Pin #: 1412622 // // / / |/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.redhat.com |\ || ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Why is list reply set to user?
Kambiz is right. That's the way it's supposed to work (but I sorta liked it the old way too) NO, that is NOT the way it is supposed to work. A prime example is what happened with Kambiz's reply and my reply to you. What happened? You get TWO copies of the e-mail. The last thing I need is MORE e-mail in my mail box. As I mentioned, this is the ONLY list that I am on that replies to the sender and not the list. Sure, I can hit g)roup reply in elm, but as you can see, you end up with two pieces of e-mail, when one is all that is really needed, or necessary. MB IMHO, it also defeats the purpose of the list to reply to just one person, when the response could benefit other people or contribute to the discussion. In the small number of cases where you have an answer that is specific to just the sender, then send it to just that one person. Just my opinion. - Bob Glover ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Why is list reply set to user?
The real problem here is that it *discourages* replying to the list. I believe the purpose of this list is to *share* our experiences. It is also a change form the old behaviour (my main objection). Funny, I'm on your side on this one Vidiot :) However, I was out of line last time with my answer. I will happily write procmail recipes to fix my own reply-to header, take aout [RHL] in the subject line, whatever. charles On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Kambiz Aghaiepour wrote: Does your email client program have a Reply-All operation? The problem with replies going to the list is that it takes away the option of replying solely to the poster. A reply-all will go to the poster and the list. This is the correct behavior. Kambiz Vidiot wrote: It is real annoying that the reply of messages sent to the list is set to the poster of the message. Too many times I have told it to send the message, forgetting to change the To: line. This is the ONLY list that I am subscribed to that has this WRONG (IMHO). Can we please get it changed? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Problems with dual NICs
This is what I found odd. The logs say they are up, but if I plug either card into my switch I can not ping any other machine. Nor can I ping any machine from the linux box. I just don't get it. I don't have a need to masq the box yet, but I wanted to learn more about it so I thought I'd try to setup the two cards. Thanks for the advise. Chad By the look of your log file, both network cards are coming up. You do however need to change ip_forward to 1 and ip_always_defrag to 1 if you want to use masquerading. I wasn't able to get my system to forward at all until I compiled the kernel myself. I recommend looking at http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~dranch/LINUX/ipmasq/ipmasq-HOWTO.pdf for what things to say yes to in order to get forwarding to work. Mine isn't completely working yet, but I'm much closer than I was before. I hope this will help some. -Original Message- From: Chad W. Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 9:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Problems with dual NICs Hello, I am having a bit of trouble with one of my linux boxes, but don't know what I am doing wrong. I have my computer working great with one network card, but when I insert the second card both network cards quit responding. I have been reading the network and ethernet howtos, but am at a loss as to what I need to change to fix this. Below are the sections of the logs and configuration files that I believe are relevant. /var/log/messages___ _ Aug 3 17:12:53 orion kernel: tulip.c:v0.91g-ppc 7/16/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aug 3 17:12:53 orion kernel: eth0: Lite-On 82c168 PNIC rev 32 at 0xdc00, 00:A0:CC:65:E4:AC, IRQ 11. Aug 3 17:12:53 orion kernel: eth0: MII transceiver #1 config 3000 status 7809 advertising 01e1. Aug 3 17:12:53 orion kernel: eth1: Lite-On 82c168 PNIC rev 32 at 0xe000, 00:A0:CC:63:DA:B5, IRQ 10. Aug 3 17:12:53 orion kernel: eth1: MII transceiver #1 config 3000 status 7829 advertising 01e1. ... Aug 3 17:12:19 orion sysctl: net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 Aug 3 17:12:19 orion sysctl: net.ipv4.conf.all.rp_filter = 1 Aug 3 17:12:19 orion sysctl: net.ipv4.ip_always_defrag = 0 ... Aug 3 17:12:51 orion sysctl: net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 Aug 3 17:12:51 orion sysctl: net.ipv4.conf.all.rp_filter = 1 Aug 3 17:12:51 orion sysctl: net.ipv4.ip_always_defrag = 0 Aug 3 17:12:51 orion sysctl: kernel.sysrq = 0 Aug 3 17:12:51 orion network: Setting network parameters succeeded Aug 3 17:12:51 orion ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable Aug 3 17:12:51 orion network: Bringing up interface lo succeeded Aug 3 17:12:51 orion network: Bringing up interface eth0 succeeded Aug 3 17:12:52 orion ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable Aug 3 17:12:52 orion network: Bringing up interface eth1 succeeded ... Aug 3 17:12:55 orion kernel: eth1: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 41e1. -- [root@orion chadws]# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 eth0 192.168.2.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 eth1 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth1 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.2.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 eth1 -- [root@orion /etc]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:CC:65:E4:AC inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:1518 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:3036 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:11 Base address:0xdc00 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:CC:63:DA:B5 inet addr:192.168.2.1 Bcast:192.168.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1591 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:36 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:3 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:10 Base address:0xe000 -- Thanks for your help, Chad ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Is your email secure? http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998-2000 secureFront Technologies, Inc. All rights reserved. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL
A Novice question here
I'm using Linux-Mandrake 7.1 (basically RHL recompiled for P5 or better by my understanding) and am looking at replacing my SoundBlaster AWE 64 with a SoundBlaster Live value (OEM type package) will this throw linux into a tizzy? I've been playing with Linux for over a year have been using the same sound card all along, basically it Winderz that I'm getting the new Soundcard for (the mic never has worked right and I've tried 5) and since it's in the same box (sigh) well the need to use it with both OS's is paramount. Please know I realize this sound pitiful but I just want to know if I'm gonna bounce off of any brick walls here. Any/all help will be appreciated. T H A N K Y O U James R. McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re:[RHL] A Novice question here
plug it in, turn the box on, listen to music. that is what i did(rh6.2) eric - Original Message - From: "James R. McKenzie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 12:38 PM Subject: A Novice question here I'm using Linux-Mandrake 7.1 (basically RHL recompiled for P5 or better by my understanding) and am looking at replacing my SoundBlaster AWE 64 with a SoundBlaster Live value (OEM type package) will this throw linux into a tizzy? I've been playing with Linux for over a year have been using the same sound card all along, basically it Winderz that I'm getting the new Soundcard for (the mic never has worked right and I've tried 5) and since it's in the same box (sigh) well the need to use it with both OS's is paramount. Please know I realize this sound pitiful but I just want to know if I'm gonna bounce off of any brick walls here. Any/all help will be appreciated. T H A N K Y O U James R. McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Anyone sending unsolicited bulk email (UBE, SPAM) to this address will be charged a $25 handling fee plus a $5 network traffic fee per started kilobyte. By extracting my address from this message or its header, you agree to these terms. Nevertheless, spammers trying to auto-extract addresses from this message will definitely want to include [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Why is list reply set to user? (Vidiot)
Vidiot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is real annoying that the reply of messages sent to the list is set to the poster of the message. Too many times I have told it to send the message, forgetting to change the To: line. This is the ONLY list that I am subscribed to that has this WRONG (IMHO). far too many newbie list users and administrators set up lists so that replies go back to the list. This URL states quite clearly and coherently why this is a bad idea. Personally, I have acquired too much scar tissue from misbehaving vacation programs replying to themselves with a reply goes back to the list. It's a real nasty death spiral that takes out mail servers on a regular basis. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Why is list reply set to user?
I happen to agree with Mike, for redhat-list, at least. Setting the reply to the sender is what I do with some lists to try to reduce the amount of traffic that list members must deal with. However, in this particular forum, I sense that more conversation is desired, not less. | NO, that is NOT the way it is supposed to work. A prime example is | what happened with Kambiz's reply and my reply to you. What happened? | You get TWO copies of the e-mail. The last thing I need is MORE e-mail | in my mail box. Actually, for the sissies like me who filter, the one addressed to the list goes into the file for that list, and the one addressed to me lands in my main inbox where I will notice it soonest. Sure, I see the message twice, but things that need my attention don't have to wait for me to wade through list mail, and I still get to see the message in the context of discussion. The macho guys who can keep thousands of messages all mentally threaded have my abiding respect. Romain Kang Disclaimer: I speak for myself alone, [EMAIL PROTECTED]except when indicated otherwise. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Redirection of URL
At 06:53 AM 8/4/00 , you wrote: Can you please send me the DNS way to redirect the URL. I also would like to know about apache redirect/rewrite methods!! I haven't seen any answers to the list is either slow, or they've been off-list, or you've gotten none. I don't administer our DNS but I think the DNS solution is to simply adding a CNAME entry into the DNS tables. My reference for this is the "crab" O'Reilly book on TCP/IP (I'd be surprised is the BIND book didn't also cover this). I don't use the apache rewrite feature but apache would never intercept it if you don't have DNS set up correctly. -Alan ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
PLS help
when i subcribe this list, i did not have to put a passwd word not i have to unsubscribe this list.. i was asked for password. What should i do.. PLEASE HELP john ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: what happened to [RHL]
I liked it too On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Jake McHenry wrote: Why did the subject attachment dissappear? I loved that, it let me know where the message was coming from, because I'm on a lot of lists, and it really pops out with [RHL] in the subject. I thought it was a good idea. Jake McHenry [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Why is list reply set to user?
Sure, I can hit g)roup reply in elm, but as you can see, you end up with two pieces of e-mail, when one is all that is really needed, or necessary. MB yet another magic procmail recipe (strait form the man page) for getting rid of duplicate email messages. -adam # anti-dupe filter :0 Whc: msgid.lock | formail -D 8192 msgid.cache :0 a: duplicates ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: [RHL] Re: what happened to [RHL]
the procmail filter works great!! added/edited a few others and im happy as hell!! thank you! eric - Original Message - From: "deasey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Jake McHenry" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 2:53 PM Subject: [RHL] Re: what happened to [RHL] I liked it too On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Jake McHenry wrote: Why did the subject attachment dissappear? I loved that, it let me know where the message was coming from, because I'm on a lot of lists, and it really pops out with [RHL] in the subject. I thought it was a good idea. Jake McHenry [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Anyone sending unsolicited bulk email (UBE, SPAM) to this address will be charged a $25 handling fee plus a $5 network traffic fee per started kilobyte. By extracting my address from this message or its header, you agree to these terms. Nevertheless, spammers trying to auto-extract addresses from this message will definitely want to include [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Why is list reply set to user?
On Fri, 04 Aug 2000, you wrote: Sure, I can hit g)roup reply in elm, but as you can see, you end up with two pieces of e-mail, when one is all that is really needed, or necessary. MB yet another magic procmail recipe (strait form the man page) for getting rid of duplicate email messages. Yes, BUT!!! NOT EVERYONE IS RUNNING A FRIGGIN' MAIL SERVER Some of us just use a standard POP3/SMTP mail client! Why should EVERYONE have to run Procmail??? John ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Why is list reply set to user? (Vidiot)
far too many newbie list users and administrators set up lists so that replies go back to the list. This URL states quite clearly and coherently why this is a bad idea. Personally, I have acquired too much scar tissue from misbehaving vacation programs replying to themselves with a reply goes back to the list. It's a real nasty death spiral that takes out mail servers on a regular basis. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html I strongly disagree with this person. I run two mail lists from my server and do not have trouble with vacation mail from my list members. I have more problems from addresses that go dead, than bounced vacation mail. Plus, if I changed the list so that Reply-To was removed, or set to the poster, I would get my nuts cut off by the users. The whole reason for the lists is to communicate between the members. I quote the following from his document: "Any reasonable, modern mailer provides this feature. I prefer the Elm mailer. It has separate ``r)eply'' and ``g)roup-reply'' commands. If I want to reply to the author of a message, I strike the ``r'' key. If I want to send a reply to the entire list, I hit ``g'' instead. Piece 'o cake." I too use elm, exclusively. The "g" key causes a problem, which he fails to mention, in that TWO pieces of e-mail is sent out, one to the list and one to the author. Doesn't seem unreasonable, except that the author will get TWO copies of the e-mail. It is bad enough that I get 300 pieces of e-mail a day. I don't need to wade through two copies, especially if they don't arrive together. I did a g)roup reply to this, so you will see TWO copies of it in your mail box. Here is Chip's summary and my responses: 1) It violates the principle of minimal munging. It is still minimal munging. The Reply-To is set to where the message came from, in this case the mail list. 2) It provides no benefit to the user of a reasonable mailer. It certainly does, as it allows me to hit r) and reply back to the group. 3) It limits a subscriber's freedom to choose how he or she will direct a response. Bull crap. 4) It actually reduces functionality for the user of a reasonable mailer. It has never reduced my functionality. 5) It removes important information, which can make it impossible to get back to the message sender. More bull crap. Since Chris loves the elm mailer, like me, he must know about the h) key. That will display all of the header information so that he can cut the author's address into a X-buffer. I've yet to not be able to find the author's e-mail address in all of the headers, from either the lists that I send out, or in the other lists that I subscribe to. The From: header is normally still there and it contains the author's address. I've yet to be able to send a personal reply to an author. 6) It penalizes the person with a reasonable mailer in order to coddle those running brain-dead software. I run the same elm software that he does and I don't have a problem with Reply-To set to the mail list. 7) It violates the principle of least work because complicates the procedure for replying to messages. It never has for me. 8) It violates the principle of least surprise because it changes the way a mailer works. Sorry, but I am caught by surprise with the RedHat list because I am so used to hitting r) and having the response go to the mail list. Now I hit the r), type the message, hit s) to send it and then go "Oh Shit!" because it went to the author and not the list. 9) It violates the principle of least damage, and it encourages a failure mode that can be extremely embarrassing -- or worse. Bull crap. See #8. After I've said "Oh Shit!", I have to reenter the reply in order to send it to the list, or if it is a long one, e-mail the author and ask for it to be sent back to me. I don't have the system keep a copy of everything I send. I'd spend way too muich time deleting copies I don't want. I know before I send it if I want a copy or not, and if so, I CC myself. Yes, I've seen messages posted to lists that were meant to be sent only to the author, but those are few and far between. And yes, I've done it. 10) Your subscribers don't want you to do it. Or, at least the ones who have bothered to read the docs for their mailer don't want you to do it. Speak for yourself. I've had ZERO list members request a change to a reply to the author. As I've mentioned, Chris fails to mention the double mailing when using g)roup reply. To me that is a real problem that is solved by having the reply sent to the group. I do not like receiving double messages when the problem goes away by using a reply to the mail list. I'm sorry, but
Re: Why is list reply set to user? (Vidiot)
On Fri, 04 Aug 2000, you wrote: As I've mentioned, Chris fails to mention the double mailing when using g)roup reply. To me that is a real problem that is solved by having the reply sent to the group. I do not like receiving double messages when the problem goes away by using a reply to the mail list. I'm sorry, but Chris' arguments do not hold water with me and cause me more problems than it is worth. I guess Chris doesn't mind eating up net bandwidth sending two messages out over the net, or eating up disk space on the user's computer by sending the poor person two copies of an e-mail that should, by all rights, be a single copy. I vote for the Reply-To being returned to the mail list, pointing to the mail list. Further, it DISCOURAGES discussion, by removing replies from the list by default. This is a TWO-WAY list, not an "announce-only" list. If that were the case, or if it were moderated I could see having the "reply-to" set to the poster, or to the moderator. However, as I stated, that is NOT the case. This is a WIDE-OPEN list, not an announce list. This list is supposed to be for DISCUSSION, not for one-way traffic. Sure it generates a lot of traffic, but if you can't handle the volume, get the hell off the list! I, too, request "Reply-To" being set to the list address. It's annoying as hell when you have to go out of your way to reply ONLY to the list! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
passwords under RH 6.2
Hi, Thanks for your help on make problem solved. Now passwords, I just setup a user and gave him a password. I do not want it to expire. When I wnat it to change I will change it. When the user logs in the system tells him his password will expire in -1 days. What is going on and how do I correct it? Man page does not help me. I must be missing something. Thanks Jim Baxter Morrison Supply Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RHL Digest
After reading the message below, I thought I would comment. I LIKE the new format. I like having the messages numbered. I like having the subject line last, so you don't have to search thru all the header junk for it. I think it is a big improvement. Congratulations! (The message said:) Message: 2 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 10:16:34 -0400 From: "Robert Glover" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RHL Digest I am a life time pine user and the old RHL Digests used to be easily displayed by pine. Each message was sort of an attachment. Anway, I can not do that with this new digest format. Anybody know why?? Something bad on my end?? I second that! The previous format came through as a single message with multiple attachments which worked fine in Outlook, Outlook Express and Pine. Now it's just a long message... which sucks. :-( Can we go back to how it was, please? And, I didn't get any digests for over a month. Thought I'd been unsubbed actually. I third that. The message boundaries are not as clear as before. That slows me down when I'm skimming for a particular message. I have to find the subject tag and read it, then, ever so carefully, scroll forward to find the next subject tag, etc. The subject tag should be so obvious that it will jump up and throttle you, if you accidentally pass it by. -Bob Glover ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
backup and restore of all partitions/OSs
I'm in a bit of a disk space planning bind, and need to repartition *sigh*. I run 95,NT and Linux on the same box. I was wondering about the feasibility of: Doing a giant tar to tape of my whole Win95 partition (it will fit). Doing a giant tar to tape of all of NT. Doing a giant tar to tape of all of linux. Then repartition, reinstall Linux, then untar 95 and NT back onto the same numbered partition (only it will be bigger this time). Then untar my backup on top of my "new" linux install, it ought to just replace everything, then reboot? I figure this way I can avoid 95/NT registry weirdness, and trying to back up open files, etc. etc. from within each OS. Is there a simpler way? Has this dragon been fought and beaten before? -- Edward Schernau,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Architect http://www.schernau.com RC5-64#: 243249 e-gold acct #:131897 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: passwords under RH 6.2
That is strange. I've never seen RH put a expiration on a password. How did you create the username/password? [root@vulcan /root]# adduser test [root@vulcan /root]# passwd test Changing password for user test New UNIX password: BAD PASSWORD: it is too short Retype new UNIX password: passwd: all authentication tokens updated successfully [root@vulcan /root]# This is what I always do and it works perfectly. A n t h o n y L a w s o n Systems/Networking Support - CCNA Semaphore Corporation 206.905.5028 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jim Baxter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 1:58 PM To: Redhat Subject: passwords under RH 6.2 Hi, Thanks for your help on make problem solved. Now passwords, I just setup a user and gave him a password. I do not want it to expire. When I wnat it to change I will change it. When the user logs in the system tells him his password will expire in -1 days. What is going on and how do I correct it? Man page does not help me. I must be missing something. Thanks Jim Baxter Morrison Supply Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Re[2]: Samba
You could try installing the samba* packages before trying to read the man pages :-/ . Please be so kind to put in a little effort before asking. Leonard, Thanks, but the packages are installed - samba-client was installed when I installed the op system, I installed the samba server and common rpms yesterday. The pages didn't come with them - or didn't install correctly. I'll try a re-install. Glen ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Why is list reply set to user? (Vidiot)
Vidiot wrote: far too many newbie list users and administrators set up lists so that replies go back to the list. This URL states quite clearly and coherently why this is a bad idea. Personally, I have acquired too much scar tissue from misbehaving vacation programs replying to themselves with a reply goes back to the list. It's a real nasty death spiral that takes out mail servers on a regular basis. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html I strongly disagree with this person. I run two mail lists from my server and do not have trouble with vacation mail from my list members. I have more problems from addresses that go dead, than bounced vacation mail. Plus, if I changed the list so that Reply-To was removed, or set to the poster, I would get my nuts cut off by the users. The whole reason for the lists is to communicate between the members. then I think we're going to have to agree to disagree. I'm also sorry to hear that you have clueless users on your mailing lists... I quote the following from his document: "Any reasonable, modern mailer provides this feature. I prefer the Elm mailer. It has separate ``r)eply'' and ``g)roup-reply'' commands. If I want to reply to the author of a message, I strike the ``r'' key. If I want to send a reply to the entire list, I hit ``g'' instead. Piece 'o cake." I too use elm, exclusively. The "g" key causes a problem, which he fails to mention, in that TWO pieces of e-mail is sent out, one to the list and one to the author. Doesn't seem unreasonable, except that the author will get TWO copies of the e-mail. It is bad enough that I get 300 pieces of e-mail a day. I don't need to wade through two copies, especially if they don't arrive together. I did a g)roup reply to this, so you will see TWO copies of it in your mail box. sort of. one went to the list digest and the other to me. my filtering puts the digest into another mailbox that I will read later. The one in my main inbox is receiving more immediate attention. it doesn't bother me because it matches my expectations of how mail lists work. I also expect that any news postings may trigger duel target messages(i.e. one to the newsgroup and one to me). proper use of filtering tools such as procmail will help make the load manageable. Trying to work with 300 plus messages a day without filtering shows either cluelessness or an enjoyment of self-inflicted pain. Here is Chip's summary and my responses: 1) It violates the principle of minimal munging. It is still minimal munging. The Reply-To is set to where the message came from, in this case the mail list. this is an arguable point. 2) It provides no benefit to the user of a reasonable mailer. It certainly does, as it allows me to hit r) and reply back to the group. 3) It limits a subscriber's freedom to choose how he or she will direct a response. Bull crap. au contrair. point 2 and 3 are opposite sides of the same coin. Reply-to prevents one from easily replying directly to another user. Without reply-to, one can reply either way to list or to user very easily. 4) It actually reduces functionality for the user of a reasonable mailer. It has never reduced my functionality. his point here further emphasizes details of the above points. If reply-to is turned on, I cannot use simple mailer commands to direct the message to user or to mailing list. I must instead manually seek out the address from the body of the message and cut then paste the address. In my world, this means I've lost functionality. I need to manually do what the mailer formerly did for me. 5) It removes important information, which can make it impossible to get back to the message sender. More bull crap. Since Chris loves the elm mailer, like me, he must know about the h) key. That will display all of the header information so that he can cut the author's address into a X-buffer. I've yet to not be able to find the author's e-mail address in all of the headers, from either the lists that I send out, or in the other lists that I subscribe to. The From: header is normally still there and it contains the author's address. I've yet to be able to send a personal reply to an author. Many of the Windows-based user agents and even some of the Linux ones lose information about the message sender and make it well-nigh impossible to get back the original senders information. 6) It penalizes the person with a reasonable mailer in order to coddle those running brain-dead software. I run the same elm software that he does and I don't have a problem with Reply-To set to the mail list. Shakespeare says it best: "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." 8) It violates the principle of least surprise
Re: etherlink III
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 11:14:32AM +0200, Gustav Schaffter wrote: Hi, The installer is broken. Add: alias eth0 3c509 to your /etc/conf.modules Regards Gustav When I DO have that alias in /etc/conf.modules I *DO* get the failure the OP described. By taking it out the problem disappears and the module loads fine the first time. Go figure! Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I installed the RH 6.2 with a local ftp from the bootnet.img floppy, without problem. But at the boot time I received an error message : Bringing up interface eth0 Delaying eth0 initialisation FAILED. I use a 3com Ethhrlink III 3c509/3cr09b with io 0x300 and irq 10, even to pass this parameters via lilo. Known you this problem? How to resolve this? Thanks for your help. -- pgp = Pretty Good Privacy. To get my public pgp key, send an e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at http://www.schaffter.com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] "And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever." --- Isaiah 9:7 (niv) -- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: samba
Saw this will a large Netatalk upload as well. At 07:14 AM 8/4/00 -0500, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
galeon
Anyone using Galeon web browser?? Is is possible to make an icon for it instead of running it from a terminal window? I tried making a launcher and telling it to run and in a window but the window crashes (it just flashes quickly)...that was not really a redhat question but I have another: Is there anyway to get rid of the splash screen that comes up with rh6.2 (gnome)...I got rid of the gnome splash screen but can't seem to locate the rh one...it seems to slow things down Rob ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Redirection of URL
There are two ways that you can do this, the way is easy, assuming you have write access to http://foo.com Insert this meta tag into the index.html of http://foo.com META HTTP-EQUIV="refresh" content="2;URL=http://www.foo.com/" so the beginning html head and title will look something like this HTML HEAD META HTTP-EQUIV="refresh" content="2;URL=http://www.foo.com" TITLEPage has moved/TITLE /HEAD BODY This page has moved. If your browser does not automatically redirect you in a few seconds, click A HREF="http://www.yoursite.com/newpage.htm"here/A to go to the new page /BODY /HTML this will pause the browser 2 seconds before redirecting the user to www.foo.com, insert any value you like in there, but if you decide to go with a small value like 0, expect some nasty email from visitors :) the other way is a bit more difficult and uses DNS, if you really want to get into it, I can show you how, its a more elegant solution imo. Robert Soros [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://soros.ath.cx Hi, I am using apache 1.3.12 with Redhat 6.2. I want to redirect one url to other url. For example if some request comes for http://foo.com then the url should redirect to http://www.foo.com What should i do for that? Thank you kapil ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Why is list reply set to user?
Sure, I can hit g)roup reply in elm, but as you can see, you end up with two pieces of e-mail, when one is all that is really needed, or necessary. MB yet another magic procmail recipe (strait form the man page) for getting rid of duplicate email messages. -adam # anti-dupe filter :0 Whc: msgid.lock | formail -D 8192 msgid.cache :0 a: duplicates And yet another notice that not everyone uses procmail, can use procmail or even wants to use proc mail. NOTE: The reply was already set to go to the mail list :-) MB -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must have programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99] Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sendmail + Outlook 2000
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Ramzi S. Abdallah wrote: Does sendmail 8.9.3 support rich text messages? Well, sendmail isn't the issue here... We are using sendmail 8.9.3 running on Redhat 6.1 as our mail server. When someone sends an email in Microsoft Rich Text from Outlook 2000 the email is received by the recipient using the same Outlook version in text format. I need the rich text support in sendmail as the managers wants to share calendars using Microsoft Net Folders. Outlook Rich Text format is an abomination. All attachments get buried in the WINMAIL.DAT attachment, which not even all versions of *Microsoft* mail programs can understand. Politely suggest to your managers that they should be setting their Outlook mail clients to Plain Text (or if they absolutely have to have formatted mail bodies, HTML) and send the calendars using plain old standard MIME. -- John Hardin KA7OHZ ICQ#15735746 http://www.wolfenet.com/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpk -a finger://gonzo.wolfenet.com/jhardin 768: 0x41EA94F5 - A3 0C 5B C2 EF 0D 2C E5 E9 BF C8 33 A7 A9 CE 76 1024: 0xB8732E79 - 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79 --- "Bother," said Pooh as he struggled with /etc/sendmail.cf, "it never does quite what I want. I wish Christopher Robin was here." -- Peter da Silva in a.s.r --- 86 days until Daylight Savings Time ends ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: galeon
Okay, lets just make sure a few things are happening that are supposed to... first, do you have the M16 RPM installed or did you build it by source ? (or maybe your just running a nightly build ?) (or do you even have mozilla installed ?? yes you need it :) Lets take a look at /usr/bin/galeon (truth is, its not a binary file, its a simple shell script.) [root@co677054-a bin]# cat galeon #!/bin/bash if test -n "$MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME"; then export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME galeon-bin $@ exit elif [ -f /usr/local/mozilla/libgtkembedmoz.so ]; then MOZILLA_HOME=/usr/local/mozilla elif [ -f /usr/lib/mozilla/libgtkembedmoz.so ]; then MOZILLA_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla else echo "Cannot find mozilla installation directory. Please set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to your mozilla directory" exit fi export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$MOZILLA_HOME export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=$MOZILLA_HOME galeon-bin $@ I wont go over everything but the galeon script checks first in /usr/local/mozilla/ for the embedded mozilla libraries, then it checks /usr/lib/mozilla/ for the same thing (libgtkembedmoz.so) .. Check and see if either of those are available on your system... if not,, do some more searching :) ( a lot of this is nonsense to you probalby, as you've gotten it to run already... just trying to show you what happens when you do load it. As I was writing this, I dropped my cursor over the desktop , right clicked-New Launcher and chose name -"Galeon" comment- "blah" command - "/usr/bin/galeon" then "OK" clicking on the new desktop icon launches Galeon with no problems (and if you want a nice icon for it, I ripped out a frame from the animated raptor gif http://soros.ath.cx/mozilla.jpg ) Suppose though, for some odd and unexplained reason, your mozilla embedded libraries were in /opt/lib/ , You would simply edit the above script ( /usr/bin/galeon ) and replace the first elif directory (/usr/local/mozilla/) with /opt/lib and that should make it work. hope some of this helps ... And if you run the nightly builds and need a desktop icon, its a bit different, I'll show ya how to make a simple shell script to load it up. Robert Soros [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://soros.ath.cx Anyone using Galeon web browser?? Is is possible to make an icon for it instead of running it from a terminal window? I tried making a launcher and telling it to run and in a window but the window crashes (it just flashes quickly)...that was not really a redhat question but I have another: Is there anyway to get rid of the splash screen that comes up with rh6.2 (gnome)...I got rid of the gnome splash screen but can't seem to locate the rh one...it seems to slow things down Rob ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: galeon
Suppose though, for some odd and unexplained reason, your mozilla embedded libraries were in /opt/lib/ , You would simply edit the above script ( /usr/bin/galeon ) and replace the first elif directory (/usr/local/mozilla/) with /opt/lib and that should make it work. My Mozilla is in /moz/package/ so how do I edit the "elif" to make it point in the right direction? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Why is list reply set to user? (Vidiot)
Eric responded: You've probably noticed that Reply-To has been added. Vidiot wrote: then I think we're going to have to agree to disagree. I'm also sorry to hear that you have clueless users on your mailing lists... Yep, I agree that were are going to disagree. From my side of the fence, we aren't clueless :-) proper use of filtering tools such as procmail will help make the load manageable. Trying to work with 300 plus messages a day without filtering shows either cluelessness or an enjoyment of self-inflicted pain. I don't have any pain at all. I pretty much read the messages in sequence. I skip many based upon the subject line. If they were shoved into different folders, I'd have to keep jumping around into the folders. For me, it is just easier to have them in my main mailbox and go through them sequentially. au contrair. point 2 and 3 are opposite sides of the same coin. Reply-to prevents one from easily replying directly to another user. Without reply-to, one can reply either way to list or to user very easily. Without the Reply-To, it is not "easy" to reply to one or the other. The easy is to hit r) and one gets the author. To get the group, I have to hit t)o before mailing and change the To: to the list. At least I have an RHL alias to speed that up. The main point is that I have to go out of the way to reply to the mail list, without also replying to the author. I do not consider that easy. Of course, if I do my usual, I edit and send. Oops, that means it went to the wrong place. 4) It actually reduces functionality for the user of a reasonable mailer. It has never reduced my functionality. his point here further emphasizes details of the above points. If reply-to is turned on, I cannot use simple mailer commands to direct the message to user or to mailing list. I must instead manually seek out the address from the body of the message and cut then paste the address. In my world, this means I've lost functionality. I need to manually do what the mailer formerly did for me. It is true. But, as I point out, I have to manually intervine in order to send the reply to ONLY the list. The two options either send to the list or send to the list AND the author. There is no LIST ONLY REPLY option. 5) It removes important information, which can make it impossible to get back to the message sender. More bull crap. Since Chris loves the elm mailer, like me, he must know about the h) key. That will display all of the header information so that he can cut the author's address into a X-buffer. I've yet to not be able to find the author's e-mail address in all of the headers, from either the lists that I send out, or in the other lists that I subscribe to. The From: header is normally still there and it contains the author's address. I've yet to be able to send a personal reply to an author. Many of the Windows-based user agents and even some of the Linux ones lose information about the message sender and make it well-nigh impossible to get back the original senders information. Well, I've never lost it on any of the Unix platforms I've been one. assume your users are human. Don't set them up to fail. Everything has gone just fine so far. like I said at the beginning, we will have to agree to disagree. I have hard-won experience showing me the wisdom of Chris's arguments, many long-term (decade+) users agree that reply to munging is considered harmful. As I understand it, the Reply-To is supposed to be set to where you want the reply sent to. I don't consider that munging. Setting it to the list, as it is now, or setting it to the author, would both be correct and would not be "munging." Yep, we disagree. MB -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must have programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99] Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
ttloop: peer died: Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character - HELP!!!!!
Hi guys and gals,I have been having a bit of trouble here. In my message log it is FILLEDwith all these errors and stuff. Here is what it is giving me:Aug 1 23:18:30 localhost ftpd[25013]: FTP session closedAug 1 23:22:37 localhost telnetd[25032]: ttloop: peer died: Invalid orincomplete multibyte or wide characterAug 1 23:23:30 localhost ftpd[25037]: FTP session closedAug 1 23:27:37 localhost telnetd[25060]: ttloop: peer died: Invalid orincomplete multibyte or wide characterAug 1 23:28:30 localhost ftpd[25062]: FTP session closedAug 1 23:32:37 localhost telnetd[25077]: ttloop: peer died: Invalid orincomplete multibyte or wide characterI mean in the message log it has TONS of those messages and as you can seethey happen only a couple minutes apart. It has only started a couple weeksago but I am not sure what caused it. I have restarted the machine and itstill does it. I don't think it is a hacker most definately NOT. But Ihave no clue what it is. I have searched the mailing list archives andcouldn't find anything that had the answer.If anyone could help I would deeply appreciate it! :-)Thanks, Jesse SheridanAdministrator of Site IntegrityTacticalzone.com, Inchttp://www.tacticalzone.comIt's not just a game anymore!ICQ#: 31872646
RE: [RHL] Why is list reply set to user?
I agree, some of the features that makes it easy to sort e-mail *ESPECIALLY* if you are on several lists or are NOT reading the list on a linux-based machine. For example, I read the list *mostly* on my office PowerMac to find bugs and security holes that affect a linux server in my department. In other words, I'm a human mail filter that annotates and sorts about 300+ messages a day. Hence, I cannot run procmail. As for whether the reply goes to the list or the individual, I think it seems to be mail client dependent. My Outlook 2000 on my home laptop, the reply goes direct to the list. Even on the mailing lists that I maintain, I set the reply to point to the mailing list and always use a list title in [brackets]. - Michael A. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vidiot Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 8:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why is list reply set to user? Sure, I can hit g)roup reply in elm, but as you can see, you end up with two pieces of e-mail, when one is all that is really needed, or necessary. MB yet another magic procmail recipe (straight form the man page) for getting rid of duplicate email messages. -adam # anti-dupe filter :0 Whc: msgid.lock | formail -D 8192 msgid.cache :0 a: duplicates And yet another notice that not everyone uses procmail, can use procmail or even wants to use proc mail. NOTE: The reply was already set to go to the mail list :-) MB -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must have programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99] Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: X server
What version of redhat do you have ? This could possibly be a PAM problem dealing with authentication. take at a look at your /etc/pam.d/xserver file and it might read something like this #%PAM-1.0 auth sufficient /lib/security/pam_rootok.so auth required /lib/security/pam_console.so accountrequired /lib/security/pam_permit.so change it so it reads.. #%PAM-1.0 accountrequired /lib/security/pam_permit.so auth required /lib/security/pam_console.so this should bypass any *Strict* authenication required by pam, as long as you've got an account.. if this doens't work, let me know Hi, there: I have a question about my X server: when I logon with my username and type startx it give the following error message: Authenticaiton failed _ cannnot connet to X server Perhaps you do not have console ownership? (after 30 seconds stop): giving up. cannot Connect to X server(errno=111) have no such process (errno=3). However, when I logon in with the root, it works. Also I have check the files /usr/X11R6/bin/X with the mode lrwxrwxrwx and the file /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit with the mode: rwxr-xr- and the file /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwrapper with the mode -rws--x--x. Does anybody know how to fix this problem? THanks Nianwei __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: help
thank.. if can not browse on the server, that mean i have to install another workstaion (pc) to browser through the server ? - Original Message - From: "Nitebirdz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "wong" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 4:41 PM Subject: Re: help On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, wong wrote: thank... yes. i want to install it after install the class server i very new in linux. , i have the linux pro version, CD with me.. i want to install linux server and apache server Apache should install by default if you select to do the server class install. can you give me some guide ? 1) can i run netscape on the server ? if not install gnome how to browe ? After the installation is complete, check out and see if Netscape was installed (I don't remember if it does by default in the server class install): rpm -qi netscape If it doesn't show the package as being installed, simply mount the CD-ROM (mount /mnt/cdrom should do it) and install the netscape RPM. You can also download the package from the Net. I always recommend a place like http://www.filewatcher.org where you can do a search for something like "netscape*rpm" or http://www.rpmfind.org. They are both pretty good. In the case of Gnome, you can also install the packages off the CD but the HelixGnome installation I mentioned in the previous message is amazingly easy and I never had any problem with it. 2) if i have setup the apacehe , how to i browse it ? Once Apache has been installed, your pages will be in /home/httpd/html by default, and the CGI scripts will be under /home/httpd/cgi-bin. In order to see the site, open your Netscape and browse to http://127.0.0.1 or your system's IP or hostname. That should do it. Again, as I said in my previous message, I wouldn't recomend running Gnome on a server install. Also, regarding Netscape, the browser is affected every now and then by some security bugs that could introduce unwanted trojan horses in your server. Not recommended either. :-) -- Nitebirdz http://www.linuxnovice.org Tips, articles, news, links... ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Redhat Blacklist
On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 02:30:03PM +1000, Greg Wright wrote: But repeated attempts to re-subscribe fail. No answer at all. If I subscribe from a different account on a different box -- no problemo. Answered right away. Is there a blacklist? How to get off? RH used to use Smartlist for this list and some others, but about 2 months ago approx, some list/s were changed to mailman, who knows whats going on in there now, I did notice that the admin uses listname[EMAIL PROTECTED] IIRC , I just recently unsubscribed from the other list so cannot tell exactly. Good Luck, I know you will need it, BTW Hal, tell us how you go I hate to dredge old dirt, but I finally got a grip on this, and some adventure thrown in. I have been unable to subscribe to any redhat list for some time from this mail account using: [hal@feenix hal]$ echo | mail -s subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [hal@feenix hal]$ echo | mail -s subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trying from another domain has worked fine. Cut and paste the same command from one xterm to another: local account fails, other domain works (Slackware). Consistently. By fail, I mean no response of any kind. Just silence. zoot had been the list I was unsubscribed from and couldn't get back on. I finally contacted Kambiz, who I think is the RH list guy. He was good enough to manually put me on zoot, but thought I wanted off redhat-list (not real sure why), so unsubscribed me. So unable to resubscribe back to this list for a week or so. :( After many, many attempts, I thought for the hell of it I would try using Mutt to send the mail and Voila! I exist again. Strange journey. -- Hal B [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: galeon
Very simply replace the first elif elif [ -f /usr/local/mozilla/libgtkembedmoz.so ]; then MOZILLA_HOME=/usr/local/mozilla with this ... elif [ -f /moz/package/libgtkembedmoz.so ]; then MOZILLA_HOME=/moz/package if you have problems even after that, it might be the permissions on the directory, but probably not (the defaults usually work *fair*) Robert Soros [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://soros.ath.cx Suppose though, for some odd and unexplained reason, your mozilla embedded libraries were in /opt/lib/ , You would simply edit the above script ( /usr/bin/galeon ) and replace the first elif directory (/usr/local/mozilla/) with /opt/lib and that should make it work. My Mozilla is in /moz/package/ so how do I edit the "elif" to make it point in the right direction? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Partionless install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was thinking of installing RHL on my laptop. I have a Gateway Solo 2500 SE with a 366 MHz Celeron/96 MB RAM Neomagic MagicGraph 128 video adapter Neomagic Sound Card USR cc-XJ1336 PCMCIA modem (flashed to 56K/V.90) 12 GB Toshiba Hard Drive to be partioned as follows: 2 GB fat16 -- Linux 3 GB Fat32 -- Win98SE 3 GB Fat32 -- Shared Data for Win98/Win2k 4 GB NTFS5 -- Win2k Any hints? Anybody try a partionless install yet? TIA - - Michael A. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.3 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBOYuAQVOfQ95MdLpZEQJo4wCeMha3j8rYPgprEteHcSdfJsc4Y4UAoOoJ dfRY9PiErK8yFG/+QHjCTpNA =RKcl -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
upgrading to rpm 4
on RH6.2, rpm 3.04, I would like to upgrade to a 2.2.16-12 kernel (rpm) from rawhide because it has the pptp masquerading patches already built in! However, I get an error from rpm when trying to install it. [root@bitsy /tmp]# rpm -Uvh kernel-2.2.16-12.i386.rpm only packages with major numbers = 3 are supported by this version of RPM error: kernel-2.2.16-12.i386.rpm cannot be installed ok, so I downloaded rpm 4.0, but get the same error trying to upgrade it! [root@bitsy /tmp]# rpm -Uvh rpm-4.0-0.56.i386.rpm only packages with major numbers = 3 are supported by this version of RPM error: rpm-4.0-0.56.i386.rpm cannot be installed So how do I upgrade to rpm 4? I realize I can patch my 2.2.16-3 kernel, but would like to try this way :) thanks charles ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: galeon
ok I wasn't clear with my question. I should have asked first of all what is an elif and second how and where or with what do I change it? On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 23:46:11 Robert Soros wrote: Very simply replace the first elif elif [ -f /usr/local/mozilla/libgtkembedmoz.so ]; then MOZILLA_HOME=/usr/local/mozilla with this ... elif [ -f /moz/package/libgtkembedmoz.so ]; then MOZILLA_HOME=/moz/package if you have problems even after that, it might be the permissions on the directory, but probably not (the defaults usually work *fair*) Robert Soros [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://soros.ath.cx Suppose though, for some odd and unexplained reason, your mozilla embedded libraries were in /opt/lib/ , You would simply edit the above script ( /usr/bin/galeon ) and replace the first elif directory (/usr/local/mozilla/) with /opt/lib and that should make it work. My Mozilla is in /moz/package/ so how do I edit the "elif" to make it point in the right direction? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: upgrading to rpm 4
may have to use force switch? Charles Galpin wrote: on RH6.2, rpm 3.04, I would like to upgrade to a 2.2.16-12 kernel (rpm) from rawhide because it has the pptp masquerading patches already built in! However, I get an error from rpm when trying to install it. [root@bitsy /tmp]# rpm -Uvh kernel-2.2.16-12.i386.rpm only packages with major numbers = 3 are supported by this version of RPM error: kernel-2.2.16-12.i386.rpm cannot be installed ok, so I downloaded rpm 4.0, but get the same error trying to upgrade it! [root@bitsy /tmp]# rpm -Uvh rpm-4.0-0.56.i386.rpm only packages with major numbers = 3 are supported by this version of RPM error: rpm-4.0-0.56.i386.rpm cannot be installed So how do I upgrade to rpm 4? I realize I can patch my 2.2.16-3 kernel, but would like to try this way :) thanks charles ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: upgrading to rpm 4
I'd rather not try that until I hear from someone who has done this. I'm still looking for info on changes from 3 - 4. thanks charles On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Lee Johnson wrote: may have to use force switch? Charles Galpin wrote: [root@bitsy /tmp]# rpm -Uvh rpm-4.0-0.56.i386.rpm only packages with major numbers = 3 are supported by this version of RPM error: rpm-4.0-0.56.i386.rpm cannot be installed So how do I upgrade to rpm 4? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: galeon
elif is a control function in bash scripting dont focus on this too much ... try this at your command prompt.. pico /usr/bin/galeon and you'll see the galeon script... from there, you'll see the first elif just a few rows down the screen... change the /usr/local/mozilla/ to /moz/package on both lines.. Then you should be set to go.. if not, just download it from my site, http://soros.ath.cx/galeon.txt then copy it to your /usr/bin/ directory like this cp galeon.sh /usr/bin/galeon chmod +x /usr/bin/galeon and that should do it (I hope :) Robert Soros [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://soros.ath.cx ok I wasn't clear with my question. I should have asked first of all what is an elif and second how and where or with what do I change it? On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 23:46:11 Robert Soros wrote: Very simply replace the first elif elif [ -f /usr/local/mozilla/libgtkembedmoz.so ]; then MOZILLA_HOME=/usr/local/mozilla with this ... elif [ -f /moz/package/libgtkembedmoz.so ]; then MOZILLA_HOME=/moz/package if you have problems even after that, it might be the permissions on the directory, but probably not (the defaults usually work *fair*) Robert Soros [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://soros.ath.cx Suppose though, for some odd and unexplained reason, your mozilla embedded libraries were in /opt/lib/ , You would simply edit the above script ( /usr/bin/galeon ) and replace the first elif directory (/usr/local/mozilla/) with /opt/lib and that should make it work. My Mozilla is in /moz/package/ so how do I edit the "elif" to make it point in the right direction? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Redirection of URL
Nitebirdz responded: I'm not sure, but I have a feeling he was actually referring to a change in the DNS records. In other words, this HTML-based redirection will only work if both www.foo.com and simply foo.com resolve to the proper IP address. As far as I remember, you set it up by modifying the A records on your DNS server. Check out the docs on DNS configuration from http://www.linuxdoc.org and that should do it. Bingo. When I first saw the post I figured that he had two separate machines running, one at foo.com and another at www.foo.com. The redirection scheme will only work if foo.com has httpd running. Even if it did, one would have to place redirection files in each of the directories that users might have bookmarked. So, if there are indeed two machine, turn off httpd on the foo.com machine and let the user get an error. That is done at lots of places. Take sendmail.org. If you try that machine, it will fail. One has to use www.sendmail.org. I suggest the same for this situation. Do not run httpd on foo.com. If there are two machines, there should already be separate DNS entries for foo.com, www.foo.com and maybe even ftp.foo.com. But, if foo.com and www.foo.com are the one and same machine, redirection is not required. I guess we need for information about the layout of these machines so that we can provide the best answer for the situation. MB -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must have programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99] Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: upgrading to rpm 4
Charles Galpin wrote: I'd rather not try that until I hear from someone who has done this. I'm still looking for info on changes from 3 - 4. yup understood :)..good luck let us know how things go...me.whewsomehow i messed up my linux OS.not sure what happened really.i load a program and it crashes..then nothing else loadsi've seen others have same issue...it may be i have current model hardware and gnome doesn't like it PLUS i still have 2.2.5-15 kernel which is probably dumb/lazy on my part..should have upgraded that long ago i guess ... latre :) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
