CSCS plus Concentrace
Just a quick question. I have been taking loads of CS because of this wretched 'flu but have also been still taking Concentrace (not together) but wanted to know if this could be a bad thing, i.e. Could the silver plate out to the minerals in the Concentrace, even though not taken together. I wouldn't have thought so but thought I'd better check with the more knowledgeable. Many thanks, Dee
Re: CSRe: Doctors...
Just to put my two penneth in here. My daughter just had the 'flue vaccine, and she has 'shed' it to me, her husband, and her son. This is what you are saying in reverse. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Simon Jester Date: 18/10/2007 05:20:30 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Doctors... On 10/17/2007 Mark Siepak wrote: Well, now, aren't you forcing YOUR medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices* on ME when you refuse to be vaccinated against communicable diseases like smallpox or polio?
Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
As in In addition to: Ya, Never have enough ways to go to avoid the ole briar patch. There is never just one path. MMS [and CS] is most likely MUCH better than Tamiflu which is all they have right now and they are well aware of it's limitations...and what can be said publicly and still be employed. I know from experience what some good Mary Jane will do to dry up the lungs and prevent drowning in your own fluids. If push comes to shove, you may start hearing a few whispers about it from those very same people. Pot always made me antisocial, [and everything a lot harder ] so I don't smoke it...but...that could be a good thing if socializing becomes dangerous. Ode At 07:53 AM 10/16/2007 -0700, you wrote: Ode, In addition to silver, MMS (sodium chlorite 28%) mixed with citric acid turns to chlorine dioxide... can be taken in very small amounts mixed with water/juice to oxidize any microbe (or chemical for that matter) in a matter of minutes. Works better than silver IMO. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1076 - Release Date: 10/17/2007 7:53 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
At 04:55 PM 10/16/2007 +0100, you wrote: --On 16 October 2007 07:38:00 -0400 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Silver IS being rediscovered in more effective forms as nano-technology and ion exchange technology are better understood though progression of discovery. You haven't noticed how many products it's being used in lately? The list is a long one. Even the Pharm is catching on. That was the example hinted at for my suggestion of rediscovery as opposed to progressive discovery. As of around 5 years ago, a pharm research department head friend of mine was working on metallic nano particles. That's all he would say. Might have been touched off by a CS generator gift a year earlier. I don't know, but he got pretty quiet after that. They aren't all turkeys , you know. You'd be surprised at how 'cool' some of these guys are, just under the lab coats, nearly incomprehensible back deck barbecue party conversations and triple PHD exteriors. I'll bet my boots they got their ideas from alternative/complimentary users like people on this list, and some press reports of the fact, plus the problems of mms and the soloution of silver offered by certain companies using silver for linings in long-life products. What medical reseachers study is all politically driven. 'Cool' I'm sure phd students are - they study cool and wear it like a uniform. Speak cool, I don't think so...barbecue parity conversation isn't so free where you hear the name of university colleges.. They are usually five years behind free thinkers who also try to solve imaginary problems. Of course some are naturally intelligent, and wear what they like in a nice way, like shirts instead of T-shirts. It is true, I suppose, phd students, though dressed uninterestingly, are beginning to break a little from student conformity, into adult conformity. But Cool is dead now. The re-birth of cool, would be the re-emergence of the unpaid politically-free 'Gentleman Scholar'. Like yourself. Couldn't be less interested in nano-technology, or anything to do with microscopes myself. Another disaster for the human race, before we just live. Seriously unnecessary toys for people who seriously insist on missing things with the scope of intelligence and the human eye. grin JOhn. ## I don't understand how looking closer can be bad. Blundered into or studied scientifically, Colloidal Silver IS nano-technology. Study doesn't change that. If I had those microscopes, I'd sure be using them. Granted, there are directions these guy have to go in..it's their job to find what the boss wants them to look for, but they do some things on the side in those labs that would rock your opinions of them. Some, are stuffed shirts, to be sure, but some are wearing two or more shirts that are quite subversive. If I hadn't known them personally for 35 years, I'd never know and never hear what they really do when no one is looking, or hear what independent paths are being taken on the sly, discussed around the Barbie and beer. While looking close, other things pop up that don't fit the plan and can't be used...but it's there and not forgotten or dismissed. People are people and none can be pigeon holed. You just never know what's just behind the appearances projected. Cool, [open minded and adventurous ] before becoming scientists and not lost after...just hidden away from the man. I've often been wrong about pillars of society after discovering their foundations in quiet trusted private...what they really believe, have seen and think about under societies demanded professional polished suit and tie surface. I know a few PHDs that have private lives that would just blow you awaysome alien contactees working for the UN and , alt practitioners at home, toe the line scientists at work. Preachers who have very different experiences guiding them, than what they sermonize about on Sunday. They can talk freely to the non-flock who can keep a quiet secret. I'll never name or expose them in any way and they know it. Bullshitters tend to be loud and myopic, suit or no suit. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1076 - Release Date: 10/17/2007 7:53 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCanine Eye Infection
I suppose you could use a thickening agent, like unflavored Jello ? ode At 09:37 AM 10/16/2007 -0700, you wrote: My Australian Cattle Dog suddenly got an eye infection a couple weeks ago. The eye was red and oozing green stuff from the inside corner. I sprayed her eyes with CS about 5 times a day and gave her a little orally too. The infection got better, but not totally well. Then the other eye got red. I never could cure them totally, so when we got home we took her to the vet. The antibiotic drops cut the green ooze in a day and her eyes got ok in a few days. I thought maybe my CS had dropped out, but both bottles I used checked out with a Tyndall. Is there anything I could have done to keep the CS in her eyes longer like the thick antibiotic drops? Pat Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48516/*http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1074 - Release Date: 10/16/2007 2:14 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1076 - Release Date: 10/17/2007 7:53 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Doctors...
On 10/18/2007, Simon Jester (tansta...@libertytrek.org) wrote: Mark, I'll only say this once... Do NOT send any more email direct to me. If you want to discuss list talk, just do it on the list. Sorry Mark, It was late, and I must not have looked at the headers... As I said in my second post - please change your Reply-To to honor the list default of 'Reply to list'... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSalt therapy
That would be fine Jodi, but they only ship to the States. I have had a look on ebay as S-Max sent something too and I did find one that looks good too that ships UK. Of course, they are twice the price here! Thanks for your help. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Jodi Date: 18/10/2007 01:39:23 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSalt therapy Dee wrote: Thanks Jodi but here we have the problem of what nebulizer to buy and how to do it all? I am going to have to do something like this though because this weak chest is a family thing (my dad died of it) so do you know of a good make, which isn't going to break the bank? Thanks in advance. Dee I see what you mean, Dee. I'm sorry that I didn't think it through, and I'm sorry about the loss of your Dad. Is a nebulizer for around $45.00 on Ebay good? One that's from a Power Seller with 100% positive feedback?It's here: http://tinyurl.com/24o3np Jodi
Re: CSQuarantine
I've heard discussions about what would be done in various hypothetical cases. Here's one: a boarding school full of kids has to be quarantined because one or more of them suddenly develops something like Ebola. First false premise: people don't just 'develop' something like Ebola. As soon as quarantine is declared, hordes of parents, some armed, descend on the school determined to get their kids out, I'd be one of them... since ebola is an ENGINEERED virus, why would I want to leave my child's destiny in the hands of the same people (in essence) who are responsible for the situation in the first place? One alternative that I might be willing to put up with instead of seeing how many jack-boots I could take with me would be for 'them' to allow us parents to take our children HOME, and then imprison us there. Another alternative I might consider is if they let me bring all of my 'stuff' with me and join my child(ren) in quarantine... and to hell with anyone else, the No... to hell with the people who engineered these super-bugs. In such a scenario, how would one respond? I'd say the everyone in the boarding school would have to be quarantined and that the angry parents would have to be disarmed. Read: murdered. I imagine others would say otherwise. Other very tough calls involve efforts to stop fetal alcohol syndrome by imprisoning irremediably alcoholic mothers during pregnancy. It would be interesting to hear some reasoned opinions about the broader issue of control. It is called fascism - and I will fight it and anyone who tries to force it down my throat to the death. And I will fight anyone who advocates it 'for the good of the children' or 'to protect me from myself' with words, as long as that is all they are using. The fact is, life is sometimes tragic, and SHIT HAPPENS. I'd much rather live in a free society, where people are free to live their lives, and MAKE THEIR OWN MISTAKES (and have to suffer the consequences of them), rather than some controlled society where the myth of 'safety' is the over-riding concern, and people abdicate their personal responsibility for determining what is and is not safe to some petty tyrant wanna-be's who are more than happy to do it for them. As for the hypothetical question below, Excuse me, but there's absolutely nothing 'hypothetical' about it. I think the problem may be that immunizations are not 100% effective for everyone over all of a lifetime, and even advocates admit that. Actually, the more correct wording would be: Immunizations are not 100% INeffective for everyone over all of a lifetime, and more and more former advocates are admitting this every day. The game plan is to keep infectivity low, I think. The game plan SHOULD be to: 1. DESTROY the stranglehold that the fascist-medical-pharmaceutical system has on the treatment of disease, 2. DESTROY the stranglehold that the fascist system has on the education of our children, and go back to the basics - teach them reading, writing, arithmetic, and most of all the ability to think for themselves. 3. DESTROY the stranglehold that this fascist government has on our agricultural system, and provide incentives for farmers to use traditional techniques - like letting the laand lie fallow, the use of powerful cover crops like hemp to regenerate the soil and resotore it to its natural, health-giving state 4. Provide incentives in the form of tax breaks to doctors, teaching hospitals, etc to start studying HEALTH, instead of disease 5. Provide incentives in the form of tax breaks for insurance companies to pay for alternative services - and while doing so, to begin compiling statistics on what modalities are more effectiove for which condition These are just off the top of my head... and there are many more things that could be done - that would not cost a bloody cent (as far as tax dollars are concerned)... I'm no expert. That is obvious... but neither am I... which is obvious too... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWorstPills.org -
Nancy, All you have to do is scroll down and read the whole article. You don't have to pay to read it. I saw that someone else answered your question. Paula - Original Message - From: Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:39 PM Subject: Re: CSWorstPills.org - I went to this website and they want $15 to subscribe. I can search google and look at the side effects of individual drugs for free. Would you care to post their list of drugs causing dementia? Nancy On Oct 17, 2007, at 5:58 AM, Paula Perry wrote: This is for Kurt and anyone else that wants to look at it. It is about drug induced illness. It explains what type of drugs can induce Parkinson's and also other diseases. A good primer on what NOT to take! Anyone taking perscription drugs might want to check this out. Could be your drugs are causing a worse problem than what you started with. Paula http://www.worstpills.org/public/page.cfm?op_id=5 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuarantine[Simon]
Hey Simon, I like the way you think. This is a government for the people by the people, or it was I should say. Unfortunately these folks have no idea whats in store for them. A couple of groups you may like to check out, avian2...@yahoo and thefrontp...@yahoo , more like minded people here. Kurt Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I've heard discussions about what would be done in various hypothetical cases. Here's one: a boarding school full of kids has to be quarantined because one or more of them suddenly develops something like Ebola. First false premise: people don't just 'develop' something like Ebola. As soon as quarantine is declared, hordes of parents, some armed, descend on the school determined to get their kids out, I'd be one of them... since ebola is an ENGINEERED virus, why would I want to leave my child's destiny in the hands of the same people (in essence) who are responsible for the situation in the first place? One alternative that I might be willing to put up with instead of seeing how many jack-boots I could take with me would be for 'them' to allow us parents to take our children HOME, and then imprison us there. Another alternative I might consider is if they let me bring all of my 'stuff' with me and join my child(ren) in quarantine... and to hell with anyone else, the No... to hell with the people who engineered these super-bugs. In such a scenario, how would one respond? I'd say the everyone in the boarding school would have to be quarantined and that the angry parents would have to be disarmed. Read: murdered. I imagine others would say otherwise. Other very tough calls involve efforts to stop fetal alcohol syndrome by imprisoning irremediably alcoholic mothers during pregnancy. It would be interesting to hear some reasoned opinions about the broader issue of control. It is called fascism - and I will fight it and anyone who tries to force it down my throat to the death. And I will fight anyone who advocates it 'for the good of the children' or 'to protect me from myself' with words, as long as that is all they are using. The fact is, life is sometimes tragic, and SHIT HAPPENS. I'd much rather live in a free society, where people are free to live their lives, and MAKE THEIR OWN MISTAKES (and have to suffer the consequences of them), rather than some controlled society where the myth of 'safety' is the over-riding concern, and people abdicate their personal responsibility for determining what is and is not safe to some petty tyrant wanna-be's who are more than happy to do it for them. As for the hypothetical question below, Excuse me, but there's absolutely nothing 'hypothetical' about it. I think the problem may be that immunizations are not 100% effective for everyone over all of a lifetime, and even advocates admit that. Actually, the more correct wording would be: Immunizations are not 100% INeffective for everyone over all of a lifetime, and more and more former advocates are admitting this every day. The game plan is to keep infectivity low, I think. The game plan SHOULD be to: 1. DESTROY the stranglehold that the fascist-medical-pharmaceutical system has on the treatment of disease, 2. DESTROY the stranglehold that the fascist system has on the education of our children, and go back to the basics - teach them reading, writing, arithmetic, and most of all the ability to think for themselves. 3. DESTROY the stranglehold that this fascist government has on our agricultural system, and provide incentives for farmers to use traditional techniques - like letting the laand lie fallow, the use of powerful cover crops like hemp to regenerate the soil and resotore it to its natural, health-giving state 4. Provide incentives in the form of tax breaks to doctors, teaching hospitals, etc to start studying HEALTH, instead of disease 5. Provide incentives in the form of tax breaks for insurance companies to pay for alternative services - and while doing so, to begin compiling statistics on what modalities are more effectiove for which condition These are just off the top of my head... and there are many more things that could be done - that would not cost a bloody cent (as far as tax dollars are concerned)... I'm no expert. That is obvious... but neither am I... which is obvious too... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS[List Owner] Topic termination time...
Hi folks! In the longstanding tradition of moderation of the list, I'd like to ask that the vaccination, doctors, quarantine, and other spin-off threads be ended over then next day. Obviously, they're venturing into prohibited topic areas of politics and political philosophy. Naturally some folks will comment while catching up, so the responses will not stop all at once. *Somebody* has to have the last word. Let them. grin Thanks to the folks who've addressed me privately with their concerns about these topics or the behavior of the participants, and also the several folks I've sent private messages to, for your favorable response. I'll again publicly remind each of the participants that personal attacks are not appropriate and can lead to loss of priveleges if severe enough or habitual. And I'd like to remind others that unpopular or unconventional ideas usually deserve a hearing, within limits. Let me close with the following: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men... But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Those dead white guys were some dangerous people... Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
At 05:24 PM 10/16/2007 +0100, you wrote: --On 16 October 2007 09:15:16 -0400 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: That depends on the flu strain. The H5N1bird flu, so far, has a 60% survival rate...IF... you have access to a ventilator to keep you breathing. That's the human engineered variety. ### Nature never has surprises? A virus never morphs using a hosts DNA? Gee whiz! I did not know that humans had absolute control. That's about a 90% mortality rate without one and most well equipped hospitals only have a dozen or so. It's not that flu that kills you, it's a healthy bodies over response to it that drowns you in it's own defense mechanism. Old people with weak immune systems actually survive better. So it is speculated. I have seen no subsatantial research on this idea. DO you suggest a paper? ## Look into the existing cases and what it took to keep those folks alive. It's not a secret. If that one does mutate, it'll be a lot worse than the Spanish flu that killed millions world wide in the early 1900s. It could, however, also mutate into harmlessness, or a flu with a 99.9% survival rate. If: I think it does all the time. ## Maybe. Or just dies out for lack of new hosts. I imagine meat eaters will kill the vulnerable young and old, if they don't restrain themselves - in the country too. ## Hungry vegetarians will eat anything just like anyone else. If the flu don't get you, starvation or hordes of hungry, scared and about to be very ill people, probably will. The vulnerable - not necessarily me. It's not the flu that kills you, but mismanagement of flu cases: early intervention, with fresh air is needed, not heat. Rest. A shawl might be better, first. Then if heat is needed, radiant wood fire, with window open. SAlt water for the passages, A flannel for fever. Body exercises which loosen and strengthen congested areas, in the head, neck, and shoulder, nasal, throat, chest areas. Relieves flu in a few short hours. But there's no comparative study. Spanish flu epidemic is not a god example, as it was engendered by vaccines, I believe. ## Many normal flues will choke you up AFTER it is gone, for weeks. That's your own body doing it, cleaning housenot the flu bug. It's done, you aren't. Kill it fast and early, less damage to clean up. But lungs, nasal passages and sinuses are only the tip of the systemic ice burg... a treatment of symptoms, not causes. Once a virus is contracted, it's too late for a vaccine and using one may actually make it worse, piling a less harmful similar strain on top of another, adding a merely uncomfortable defense to an up and coming deadly defense mechanism...cleaning up twice at once...a little added to a lot. With H5N1, it's the clean up that kills at a very high rate without help for quite a while after the bug has succumbed to antibodies. The body does successfully kill the bug, but then the body itself, kills itself. Transmission windows open before symptoms are felt, ready to go at the first sign of a cough. Tamiflu sorta works, but has a very narrow time window where it does anything at all. Too early or too late?...nothing. And there isn't nearly enough of it to go around or the people skill to know when to use it. The type of cells H5N1 can now key into are deep in the lungs where very few copies ever get to and don't become aerosolized much by coughing. But only a slight shift in viral structure can make eyes, nose and throat into a viable target for attachment and replication and hence, easy person to person transmission, shifting the dominant variant with more available hosts. It has already jumped species. So far, it's a long jump. It is already person to person communicable, just not very communicable. THAT is what has biologists worried. It doesn't have to make a very big shift at all to become quite nasty. A virus uses the persons own DNA to adapt and every time it finds a new host, it tries to adapt to the next type of cells using the last type as a springboard pattern, each replication just a little different, using the DNA from the next type it infected in a single host, till it finds the right key for the next transmission lock. That's a billion to one chance, maybebut with a ten trillion tries per case, could very easily happen. That's probably will MIGHT not odds...with a decent chance of catching it in the act with very close observation. PLUS, less likely odds of a direct bird to human variant transmission key popping up as more and more birds fall ill. That part of the game is like playing Whack a Mole, with migrating flying moles. Absolute unpredictability, anywhere, anywhen...low odds, but uncontrollable numbers of tries. I thought it was all scare too...till I looked closer. Turns out: They are scared silly and have good reason to be. Governments want to deny problems as much as anyoneand they aren't denying
Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
The H5N1 kills those with healthy immune systems and spares those with weak ones. It's the immune system that causes death, not the virus. It's not the normal flu. ode At 01:19 PM 10/16/2007 -0400, you wrote: Hey, flus do kill. Only those with a sufficiently weakened immunse system. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1074 - Release Date: 10/16/2007 2:14 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1074 - Release Date: 10/16/2007 2:14 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1076 - Release Date: 10/17/2007 7:53 PM
Re: CSRe: CS turning yellow?
I'd give it 2 or 3 days. Ode At 12:32 PM 10/16/2007 -0500, you wrote: I added a few drops of H2O2 to some newly made cs, and it turned it a funny brownish yellow color, then I let it sit for a week, and started adding H2O2 a drop at a time, it turned clear, and the uS went up. Which I interpret to mean that the particles were broken up by the peroxide and went back to ions. I am taking that batch, and I would not hesitate to use it in my eyes or anywhere else. How many days does one have to wait to add peroxide so it does not do that? On Oct 16, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Ode Coyote wrote: At 05:52 PM 10/15/2007 -0400, you wrote: Ode If you use the peroxide in the cs is it still safe to use in eyes? Dianne It only takes about 6 drops of 3% to the quart. I'd say, no problem. Ode That is interesting, because I determined that a half teaspoon per gallon was the correct amount. With 50 drops to the teaspoon, the amount you add is within 4% of the amount I add. There is a tremendous difference in the way it acts if you add H2O2 to fresh CS vs aged CS. When do you think the best time to add the H2O2 is? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1074 - Release Date: 10/16/2007 2:14 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1074 - Release Date: 10/16/2007 2:14 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1076 - Release Date: 10/17/2007 7:53 PM
Re: CSQuarantine
Infectious disease as a weapon is a fact. Anthrax comes in an arosol form now! In fact, I am a living example of a witness being disabled by targeted infection. MRSA is more common now. I have several friends who have contracted it in hospitals. In the most general terms, biological warfare is a reality we all have to live with. I factor that in to the vaccine talks. But there is a clear over riding issue of safe environment. If you don't have a black light or high density negative ions and are concerned about your personal politics you are behind the times. =z= Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I've heard discussions about what would be done in various hypothetical cases. Here's one: a boarding school full of kids has to be quarantined because one or more of them suddenly develops something like Ebola. First false premise: people don't just 'develop' something like Ebola. As soon as quarantine is declared, hordes of parents, some armed, descend on the school determined to get their kids out, I'd be one of them... since ebola is an ENGINEERED virus, why would I want to leave my child's destiny in the hands of the same people (in essence) who are responsible for the situation in the first place? One alternative that I might be willing to put up with instead of seeing how many jack-boots I could take with me would be for 'them' to allow us parents to take our children HOME, and then imprison us there. Another alternative I might consider is if they let me bring all of my 'stuff' with me and join my child(ren) in quarantine... and to hell with anyone else, the No... to hell with the people who engineered these super-bugs. In such a scenario, how would one respond? I'd say the everyone in the boarding school would have to be quarantined and that the angry parents would have to be disarmed. Read: murdered. I imagine others would say otherwise. Other very tough calls involve efforts to stop fetal alcohol syndrome by imprisoning irremediably alcoholic mothers during pregnancy. It would be interesting to hear some reasoned opinions about the broader issue of control. It is called fascism - and I will fight it and anyone who tries to force it down my throat to the death. And I will fight anyone who advocates it 'for the good of the children' or 'to protect me from myself' with words, as long as that is all they are using. The fact is, life is sometimes tragic, and SHIT HAPPENS. I'd much rather live in a free society, where people are free to live their lives, and MAKE THEIR OWN MISTAKES (and have to suffer the consequences of them), rather than some controlled society where the myth of 'safety' is the over-riding concern, and people abdicate their personal responsibility for determining what is and is not safe to some petty tyrant wanna-be's who are more than happy to do it for them. As for the hypothetical question below, Excuse me, but there's absolutely nothing 'hypothetical' about it. I think the problem may be that immunizations are not 100% effective for everyone over all of a lifetime, and even advocates admit that. Actually, the more correct wording would be: Immunizations are not 100% INeffective for everyone over all of a lifetime, and more and more former advocates are admitting this every day. The game plan is to keep infectivity low, I think. The game plan SHOULD be to: 1. DESTROY the stranglehold that the fascist-medical-pharmaceutical system has on the treatment of disease, 2. DESTROY the stranglehold that the fascist system has on the education of our children, and go back to the basics - teach them reading, writing, arithmetic, and most of all the ability to think for themselves. 3. DESTROY the stranglehold that this fascist government has on our agricultural system, and provide incentives for farmers to use traditional techniques - like letting the laand lie fallow, the use of powerful cover crops like hemp to regenerate the soil and resotore it to its natural, health-giving state 4. Provide incentives in the form of tax breaks to doctors, teaching hospitals, etc to start studying HEALTH, instead of disease 5. Provide incentives in the form of tax breaks for insurance companies to pay for alternative services - and while doing so, to begin compiling statistics on what modalities are more effectiove for which condition These are just off the top of my head... and there are many more things that could be done - that would not cost a bloody cent (as far as tax dollars are concerned)... I'm no expert. That is obvious... but neither am I... which is obvious too... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives
Re: CSCanine Eye Infection
Probably OK, but I wouldn't. If nothing else, it might dry the eye out, being extremely hydroscopic. I've had the dust in my eyesno big dealbut. Ode At 12:27 PM 10/16/2007 -0500, you wrote: you could make it into a gel, like they did with the antibiotic. I am not sure if the gel kit sold at silverpuppy it ok to use in the eyes, but you could ask them, or just make some and try it on yourself. On Oct 16, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Pat wrote: My Australian Cattle Dog suddenly got an eye infection a couple weeks ago. The eye was red and oozing green stuff from the inside corner. I sprayed her eyes with CS about 5 times a day and gave her a little orally too. The infection got better, but not totally well. Then the other eye got red. I never could cure them totally, so when we got home we took her to the vet. The antibiotic drops cut the green ooze in a day and her eyes got ok in a few days. I thought maybe my CS had dropped out, but both bottles I used checked out with a Tyndall. Is there anything I could have done to keep the CS in her eyes longer like the thick antibiotic drops? Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1074 - Release Date: 10/16/2007 2:14 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1074 - Release Date: 10/16/2007 2:14 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1076 - Release Date: 10/17/2007 7:53 PM
Re: CSWorstPills.org -
Very good article! Mary -- Original message -- From: Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net Nancy, All you have to do is scroll down and read the whole article. You don't have to pay to read it. I saw that someone else answered your question. Paula - Original Message - From: Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:39 PM Subject: Re: CSWorstPills.org - I went to this website and they want $15 to subscribe. I can search google and look at the side effects of individual drugs for free. Would you care to post their list of drugs causing dementia? Nancy On Oct 17, 2007, at 5:58 AM, Paula Perry wrote: This is for Kurt and anyone else that wants to look at it. It is about drug induced illness. It explains what type of drugs can induce Parkinson's and also other diseases. A good primer on what NOT to take! Anyone taking perscription drugs might want to check this out. Could be your drugs are causing a worse problem than what you started with. Paula http://www.worstpills.org/public/page.cfm?op_id=5 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuarantine
- Original Message - From: Michael Zangari To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:50 AM Subject: Re: CSQuarantine Infectious disease as a weapon is a fact. Anthrax comes in an arosol form now! In fact, I am a living example of a witness being disabled by targeted infection. MRSA is more common now. I have several friends who have contracted it in hospitals. In the most general terms, biological warfare is a reality we all have to live with. I factor that in to the vaccine talks. But there is a clear over riding issue of safe environment. If you don't have a black light or high density negative ions and are concerned about your personal politics you are behind the times. =z= Waht is a black light please? Faith
Re: CSQuarantine[Simon]
Or as V would say.. People should not fear their governments, governments should fear their people. Which is really a conundrum because govts who begin to lean towards fascism ideological , actually fear their people. Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hey Simon, I like the way you think. This is a government for the people by the people, or it was I should say. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
CSRe: What is in Vicks?
Just received this by email: This really works!! VICKS VAPORUB...TRY IT, IT WORKS I wish I'd known this when my family was young during winter colds and coughs. I am going to try it myself. Share with young parents. Isn't life strange. When we had a lecture on Essential Oils, they told us how the foot soles can absorb oils. Their example: Put garlic on your feet and within 20 minutes you can 'taste' it. Some of us have used Vicks Vaporub for years for everything from chapped lips to sore toes and many body parts in between. But I've never heard of this. And don't laugh, it works 100% of the time although the scientists at the Canada Research council (who discovered it) aren't sure why. To stop night time coughing in a child (or adult as we found out personally), put Vicks Vaporub generously on the bottom of the feet at bedtime, then cover with socks. Even persistent, heavy, deep coughing will stop in about 5 minutes and stay stopped for many, many hours of relief. Works 100% of the time and is more effective in children than even very strong prescription cough medicines. In addition it is extremely soothing and comforting and they will sleep soundly. I heard the head of the Canada Research Council describe these findings on the part of their scientists when they were investigating the effectiveness and usage of prescription cough medicines in children as compared to alternative therapies like acupressure. Just happened to tune in A.M.Radio and picked up this guy talking about why cough medicines in kids often do more harm than good due to the chemical makeup of these strong drugs so,I listened. It was a surprise finding and found to be more effective than prescribed medicines for children at bedtime, in addition to have a soothing and calming effect on sick children who then went on to sleep soundly. Polly tried it on herself when she had a very deep constant and persistent cough a few weeks ago and it worked 100%! She said that it felt like a warm blanket had enveloped her, coughing stopped in a few minutes and believe me, this was a deep, (incredibly annoying!) every few seconds uncontrollable cough, and she slept cough-free for hours every night that she used it. If you have grandchildren, pass it on. If you end up sick, try it yourself and you will be absolutely amazed by the effect. Faith -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuarantine
A black light is one of those long florresant tubes used to make posters glow. It is untra-violet light that highlights things that floress. It also kills bacteria. =z= faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Michael Zangari To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:50 AM Subject: Re: CSQuarantine Infectious disease as a weapon is a fact. Anthrax comes in an arosol form now! In fact, I am a living example of a witness being disabled by targeted infection. MRSA is more common now. I have several friends who have contracted it in hospitals. In the most general terms, biological warfare is a reality we all have to live with. I factor that in to the vaccine talks. But there is a clear over riding issue of safe environment. If you don't have a black light or high density negative ions and are concerned about your personal politics you are behind the times. =z= Waht is a black light please? Faith =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSRe: Vaccines Part 3
Emerging Worlds: Chronic Illness and Viral Infections ... of certain diseases like Small Pox and Polio but as one Senator recently ... including New York-that received contaminated batches of the polio vaccine. ... www.emergingworlds.com/ch_vaccines.cfm - 41k - Cached Vaccination Liberation Information ... Regulatory Requirements for Historical and New Smallpox Vaccines ... ( In fact, both small pox and polio immunization campaigns were followed initially ... www.vaclib.org/basic/smallpoxindex.htm - 51k - Cached Vaccines The spurt in small pox cases, vaccine induced deaths and the emergence of the ... Polio -- Lathyrus or Polio Nosode. Small Pox -- Variolinum. ... www.whale.to/vaccines/chatterjee.html - 56k - Cached Vaccines: An issue of trust. Misinformation and government foot ... ... new vaccines is already high--a single dose of the newest, a vaccine ... vaccines containing thimerosal as a preservative, and the oral polio vaccine may ... www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/July2001/Vax-AnIssueOfTrustPart1.htm - 129k - Cached Vaccines (PDF) 4. Marie decided against the relatively new chickenpox vaccine and ... An interesting history of the use of smallpox itself as a vaccination against small pox. ... www.smccd.edu/accounts/boo/Vaccines.pdf - 152k - View as html Autism and Immunizations The new Pneumococcal vaccine, Prevnar, has good efficacy for meningitis and ... 1999 FDA admits infants exposed to unsafe limits of mercury in the vaccines. ... www.vaccinationnews.com/dailynews/July2002/AutImm23.htm - 28k - Cached Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: But you have argued in favor of ENFORCED, INVOLUNTARY vaccinations, Ode. Nonsense. Admitted, and retracted... I apologize again for making this mistake. I still don't know what I read or how I got that into my head that you had said that... but... Enforced isolation [quarantine] for those that refuse, sure, but not forced vaccination. This is almost as bad - and you even said earlier something about SHOOTING those who may choose to reject your forced quarantine. WHO DECIDES? Who decides who is sick? Who decides which 'germs' qualify for 'quarantine'? Who decides how long the quarantine read: DEPRIVATION OF THE RIGHT OF LIBERTY, aka, freedom of movement and locomotion - lasts? George Bush? Or maybe you prefer Hillary Clinton? There is a choice, neither of them all good or sure, but one or the other is necessary. Here is where we differ... Assuming a pandemic is spreading... and that the goal is to try to minimize the spread of the disease as much as possible... You would advocate the quarantining of everyone who refuses to be vaccinated. I, on the other hand, would advocate the quarantining of all of the people who actually evidence symptoms of said disease - and would strongly urge those whose immune systems are compromised - whether through poor lifestyle choices, lots of vaccinations, or some combination thereof - to stay home, and away from other people. Vaccination or nonvaccination would be irrelevant... I'd still like to hear why people who believe in the safety and efficacy of vaccinations (and therefore are vaccinated themselves, right?) are so afraid of the unvaccinated. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSRe: Doctors...
Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: If you believe vaccinations work, and you are vaccinated, WHY ARE YOU AFRAID OF THE UNVACCINATED? If one wanted discuss a hypothesis.the above premise/question is succinct Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: CSForced Anthrax vaccines - NOT... WAS: Re: Forced flu vaccines?
The anthrax came in the form of a white powder in the folds of a letter postmarked and stamped in Nigeria. =z= Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote: How were you exposed? Dan - From: Michael Zangari [mailto:truez2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 2:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSForced Anthrax vaccines - NOT... WAS: Re: Forced flu vaccines? I had several high density negative ion generators going in my apartment for seve years prior to the arival of the anthrax. I used negative ions for clarity, killing bacteria, and brightness. It was a studio condo. Very small with a very dense concentration of negative ions. I think that did the trick. I still developed a congestive heart failure. The thing that eventually saved my life was selegiline and good medication monitoring. =z= =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSHillary/medicine
And on that delightful note, let's *not* further debate the US presidential horse-race and likely outcomes. sigh Mike D. Just heard Dick Morris on the Boortz show say that Hillary would be the next President and she would have a Demorat majority Congress---s- her first legislation would be socialized medicine. Second would be raising the SS tax limits to 200,000 dollars. Morris said Peru looks like a good place to live--for a couple years till the Demorats were sweep out in 2010 --but it would be too late then to put the genie back in the bottle. List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
Re: CSDoctors...[Carol]
That being the case - bible references - Ignorance regarding the terminology and interpretation of the word Witch whether applied to modern or archaic is bliss. Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 10/17/2007 Carol Ann wrote: Get a good concordance and look up the biblical word(s) used for 'witches' - you'll find that they fit the modern 'doctor' to a 't'... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
ODE, who do you think puts the info on Wikipedia? More MSM bullshit. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? Regardless of unproven bullshit, Does any transport person have the right to be a disease carrier? You are saying that the smallpox vaccine hasn't eliminated smallpox? ..That cowpox antibodies don't immunize from smallpox? Which vaccines work and which don't and that some vaccines may be harmful to some people for different reasons, may be questionable, but the whole field of vaccination is pretty much an over all proven success with centuries of experience to back it up. Smallpox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inoculationinoculation was started in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IndiaIndia or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChinaChina before 200 BC.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination#_note-0[1] In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17181718, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Mary_Wortley_MontagueLady Mary Wortley Montague reported that the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurkeyTurks have a habit of deliberately inoculating themselves with fluid taken from mild cases of smallpox and she inoculated her own children.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination#_note-Behbehani_1983[2] In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17961796 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_JennerEdward Jenner inoculated using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowpoxcowpox (a mild relative of the deadly smallpox virus). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PasteurPasteur and others built on this Ode At 02:38 PM 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote: I don't think they can force you to take a vaccine, but they can constitutionally en force a quarantine. No, they can't - but they can UNconstitutinally enforce one. If you aren't vaccinated, you disqualify yourself from being an enforcer or having any part in a transport operation, becoming a potential part of the problem vs part of any solution. ? Vaccines simply DON'T WORK. It appears you have fallen for the FUD? No job and rightly so, but not force, just choice. Work safe or stay at home. Bullshit... sorry, Ode, but this is ridiculous. No one has the 'Right' to force someone to do something so ridiculous in order to keep a job. Vaccines are one of the big cons - right up there with the income tax and drivers licenses. A vaccine costs everyone a lot less than a quarantine, More bullshit. A vaccine won't prevent diddly. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 3:09 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 3:09 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 3:09 PM
Re: CSRe: Forced Anthrax vaccines - NOT... WAS: Re: Forced flu vaccines?
I've written extensively about this. And my conclusion is the same. If they wanted me dead, I'd be dead. If you become disabled you become economically disadvantaged and isolated. You are less healthy and unable to function at the same level. You are treated as a subclass. Especially with something so exotic. People wonder about your mental health. I could go on and on. It is certainly about disabling people. I will say that I am not the only one targeted in that rash of anthrax attacks in 1998. A majority of these people died of other problems. They of course are all related to the anthrax exposure. I know how lucky I was, am. =z= Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: btw, Simon, it would stand to reason that once they kill you with a gun, they won't bother with further attempts to vaccinate you. ;) Lead: the ultimate vaccine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CS cancer/polio vaccine was Forced flu vaccines?
T. J. Garland wrote: I just read somewhere that the tonsils produce a chemical that kills the polio virus. Polio became epidemic when it became fashionable to remove tonsils. Yep. between the vaccinations, and removing the tonsils, the polio epidemic was doctor created. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
Simon Jester wrote: Just like a drug test, which is an absolute invasion of privacy, your employer can probably require that you do this if you are going to work there. Your employer can basically fire you for anything except those things that are specifically prohibited such as certain kinds of discrimination. I'm not saying this is fair or right. I'm saying this is the way it is... A private, non-corporate 'employer' is free to do whatever he/she wants - hire and fire anyone they want, anytime they want, for any reason they want. Problem is, truly private 'employers' are rae these days. Actually that is not true. Any employer, corporate or not, firing, or even refusing to hire, a person because of race, color, religion, sexual orientation (especially if the employee is gay), handicap, or nationality can be sued for huge amounts, and even prosecuted criminally. The fourth episode of season 3 of Boston Legal actually had a show on this when a budding lawyer fired another lawyer because he was a Scientologist. You are correct it is much worse for large corporations. Exxon was legally prevented from firing a drunkard captain, because it was classified as a disability, which then wrecked the Valdez, and ended up being fined and sued for not firing him. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue
I used the wrong word. I meant weapnoized for the lyme. Lyme existed long before it was apparently weaponized, but apparently as a much less virulent strain. The present epidemic seems to have developed from a strain that appeared near Lyme in the 70's. Do you have anything to support that the other diseases you listed are designer? I know that several can be caused by neurotoxins, such as aspertame and mercury, but as a designer disease, I would think a pathogen would be required. Marshall Kurt Milkowski wrote: Well you have to look at how long other designer disease have been around. Here are a few, alhiemers, als, parkinsons, ms, lupus, autism, just to name a few. Kurt */Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com/* wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a new disease, been around for a long time. Just became named recently. From what I have been able to determine it was designed in the early to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's biological warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. Marshall */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall Kurt */jessie70 /* wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt */Clayton Family /* wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well. It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen The Future of Food ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute declared that up to one billion people around the world could die during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is about to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSRe: Doctors...
Mark Siepak wrote: My beef is with people - like Ode - who believe they have some kind of Right to force their medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices* on me and my family and friends - and anyone else who claims the Right to own their own life and body. Well, now, aren't you forcing YOUR medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices* on ME when you refuse to be vaccinated against communicable diseases like smallpox or polio? After all, I DO think vaccinations work, and even if the rate of bad reactions was 10% (more like one and a half percent), I think it is worth maybe 10,000 with bad reactions, to avoid having pandemics kill millions every 15-30 years. Of course, if my child were one with the bad reaction, I would probably want to blame someone. Somehow this makes no sense to me. You say that you believe vaccinations work, and that someone choosing to not take them is forcing their beliefs and opinions on you when they refuse to be vaccinated. That is like saying that someone is forcing their religion on you if they go to Church (or not). What are you talking about? How does what one chooses to do with their body force anything on you? Are you saying it is because you may catch something from them? If so, then that is contrary to you saying that you believe vaccinations work,, unless you are saying that you want everyone else to be vaccinated but you. Can you restate this in a way that is logical? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: What is in Vicks?
I will try this Faith! I know it works for toe-nail fungus as well. Dee ---Original Message--- From: faith gagne Date: 18/10/2007 15:00:50 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: What is in Vicks? Just received this by email: This really works!! VICKS VAPORUB...TRY IT, IT WORKS I wish I'd known this when my family was young during winter colds and coughs. I am going to try it myself. Share with young parents. Isn't life strange. When we had a lecture on Essential Oils, they told us how the foot soles can absorb oils. Their example: Put garlic on your feet and within 20 minutes you can 'taste' it. Some of us have used Vicks Vaporub for years for everything from chapped lips to sore toes and many body parts in between. But I've never heard of this. And don't laugh, it works 100% of the time although the scientists at the Canada Research council (who discovered it) aren't sure why.
CSblacklight?
...what's the blacklight for? If you don't have a black light or high density negative ions and are concerned about your personal politics you are behind the times. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSvaccinated vs un
how about this? ...the vaccination may stop the virus that the unvaccinated person initially caught (which they probably wouldn't have caught if they'd been vaccinated), but may well not stop the newly mutated virus that the unvaccinated person is now spewing around. granted, slim odds, but that's how it goes, isn't it? -Original Message- Are you saying it is because you may catch something from them? If so, then that is contrary to you saying that you believe vaccinations work,, unless you are saying that you want everyone else to be vaccinated but you. Can you restate this in a way that is logical? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHillary/medicine
Just heard Dick Morris on the Boortz show say that Hillary would be the next President and she would have a Demorat majority Congress---s- her first legislation would be socialized medicine. Second would be raising the SS tax limits to 200,000 dollars. Morris said Peru looks like a good place to live--for a couple years till the Demorats were sweep out in 2010 --but it would be too late then to put the genie back in the bottle. List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue
I'm not Kurt, but the T2 toxin of stachybotris is used, and it is a very potent neurotoxin. It is listed in the gov't research as a potent weapon, but then when you get to the CDC, they say the same exact toxin is benign in a household setting. It can cause, just from a household infestation, chronic fatigue, universal reactivity, heart disease, and maybe many many more. The concentrated weapon version is probably lethal. On Oct 18, 2007, at 9:56 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: I used the wrong word. I meant weapnoized for the lyme. Lyme existed long before it was apparently weaponized, but apparently as a much less virulent strain. The present epidemic seems to have developed from a strain that appeared near Lyme in the 70's. Do you have anything to support that the other diseases you listed are designer? I know that several can be caused by neurotoxins, such as aspertame and mercury, but as a designer disease, I would think a pathogen would be required. Marshall Kurt Milkowski wrote: Well you have to look at how long other designer disease have been around. Here are a few, alhiemers, als, parkinsons, ms, lupus, autism, just to name a -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLugol's 5% solution
You can order the Lugol's 5% solution from www.jcrow.com - I believe it was $10.95 for a 1 oz. bottle and they have specials for different items at different times. I think they also carry Iodoral (sp?) which is a pill form of iodine and some type of kelp (s). Ruth B. - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 7:00 PM Subject: Re: CSLugols at Humco It has on one page listed tincture and on this page that is posted it has the Solution...the tincture has alcohol and solution does not...thanks debbie Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net wrote: Just read the other emails. Glad you found it. Now, are you saying Humco does have the Lugols Iodine formula without alcohol?? That seems to be contrary to what the employee of Humco told me. I would like to know. Thanks, Leslie - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: cs Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:49 PM Subject: CSLugols at Humco Humco does have the Lugols/Strong Iodine if someone is interested in buying it thru the Walmart pharmacyit isn't the tincture it is the solution..debbie http://www.humco.com/msds/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSRe: What is in Vicks?
Good luck Dee. I really don't know anything about it. I jsut received it in an email this morning and am just passing it on. Faith - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:15 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: What is in Vicks? I will try this Faith! I know it works for toe-nail fungus as well. Dee ---Original Message--- From: faith gagne Date: 18/10/2007 15:00:50 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: What is in Vicks? Just received this by email: This really works!! VICKS VAPORUB...TRY IT, IT WORKS I wish I'd known this when my family was young during winter colds and coughs. I am going to try it myself. Share with young parents. Isn't life strange. When we had a lecture on Essential Oils, they told us how the foot soles can absorb oils. Their example: Put garlic on your feet and within 20 minutes you can 'taste' it. Some of us have used Vicks Vaporub for years for everything from chapped lips to sore toes and many body parts in between. But I've never heard of this. And don't laugh, it works 100% of the time although the scientists at the Canada Research council (who discovered it) aren't sure why.
Re: CSCanine Eye Infection- gelling agents
How about pectin, like for making jelly? I think it needs to be cooked in order to gel, any one know? Or maybe agar seaweed thickener. I am not sure if that requires cooking or not. I am a veg- maybe jello would work too, but not for me- I think it also needs some heat. I am thinking that the heat would cause the cs to bind with the thickener, so maybe make it too thick, then add cs to it when it is cooled. Would that work? Another thing that might be considered is the pH. Kathryn On Oct 18, 2007, at 4:57 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: I suppose you could use a thickening agent, like unflavored Jello ? ode At 09:37 AM 10/16/2007 -0700, you wrote: My Australian Cattle Dog suddenly got an eye infection a couple weeks ago. The eye was red and oozing green stuff from the inside corner. I sprayed her eyes with CS about 5 times a day and gave her a little orally too. The infection got better, but not totally well. Then the other eye got red. I never could cure them totally, so when we got home we took her to the vet. The antibiotic drops cut the green ooze in a day and her eyes got ok in a few days. I thought maybe my CS had dropped out, but both bottles I used checked out with a Tyndall. Is there anything I could have done to keep the CS in her eyes longer like the thick antibiotic drops? Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: What is in Vicks?
Levomenthol, eucalyptus oil, turpentine oil and camphor. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: CSQuarantine
Just had a 2 yr. old young girl die from e coli here- probably from beef. Stories on the radio about MRSA deaths. Apparently school gyms are a breeding ground. Schools are using some kind of aerosal spray. Any chance of them using EIS??!!! right - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: Re: CSQuarantine - Original Message - From: Michael Zangari To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:50 AM Subject: Re: CSQuarantine Infectious disease as a weapon is a fact. Anthrax comes in an arosol form now! In fact, I am a living example of a witness being disabled by targeted infection. MRSA is more common now. I have several friends who have contracted it in hospitals. In the most general terms, biological warfare is a reality we all have to live with. I factor that in to the vaccine talks. But there is a clear over riding issue of safe environment. If you don't have a black light or high density negative ions and are concerned about your personal politics you are behind the times. =z= Waht is a black light please? Faith
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave
Thanks. Did you have any adverse reactions to that amount of cs? Like herks, or something else? -Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: I took 6 ounces every half hour of awake time for three days and it broke like a fever in the middle of the night. I've had almost four years of health and energy like a twenty year old ( I was 68 at the time) Now I'm getting tired a lot so don't know if it is coming back or not. No other symptoms. I have been taking MMS and seeing some improvement . Dave Clayton Family wrote: Now this is useful information, thanks. How much did you take to get it under control, and did it go underground, or get killed off? Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Dave wrote: I think that is when they discovered it ( named it) not when it began, before that they called it whatever it seemed to mimic, as Lyme does present a number of maladies. When they had me in the hos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
This is what I mean when I say that we don't know all the laws that govern this world. Just because something does not fit the model, means maybe the model is not good enough, so go back and look at that. If it is good enough for the use it is intended for, then ok, the model can be used, but the unusual events are there, written down, filed away for future ref. Then when eventually, we get more info, or other events like it, we can maybe figure it out. On Oct 18, 2007, at 4:43 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: While looking close, other things pop up that don't fit the plan and can't be used...but it's there and not forgotten or dismissed. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
A private, non-corporate 'employer' is free to do whatever he/she wants - hire and fire anyone they want, anytime they want, for any reason they want. Problem is, truly private 'employers' are rae these days. Actually that is not true. Any employer, corporate or not, firing, or even refusing to hire, a person because of race, color, religion, sexual orientation (especially if the employee is gay), handicap, or nationality can be sued for huge amounts, and even prosecuted criminally. Anyone can file a lawsuit against anyone, anytime, for anything, that is true. And today, judges have no fear of reprisal for failure to follow the law... so, in that sense, you are correct. But, in strict accordance with the law, the government does not have the Right to interfere with totally private contracts between private people. Corporations do not have 'Rights', they only have governmentally bestowed privileges. People have Rights. But yes - since the judges couldn't care less what the laws actually say, and or apply to - yes, they could UNconstitutionally MIS-apply a law intended only at 'employers' (this is a legal word of art - meaning, it doesn't mean what you think it means) and/or 'employees' (another word of art) at private Americans. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: CS + High Blood pressure/eye trombosis
Hi has anybody experience or are there known effects / treatments for high blood pressure /eye trombosis using CS or any other succesfull methods. Regards Emile -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHillary/medicine
On 10/18/2007, T. J. Garland (noblemet...@bellsouth.net) wrote: Just heard Dick Morris on the Boortz show say that Hillary would be the next President and she would have a Demorat majority Congress---s- her first legislation would be socialized medicine. Second would be raising the SS tax limits to 200,000 dollars. Morris said Peru looks like a good place to live--for a couple years till the Demorats were sweep out in 2010 --but it would be too late then to put the genie back in the bottle. Democrats aren't the problem... fascism in America has grown far more quickly under Republican regimes. The problem is ignorance, fear, and ultimately insanity... people are either (or some combination of): 1. ignorant - many if not most of them deliberately so (this is the only true sin in my book) - of the true nature of liberty and freedom, 2. fearful of true liberty and freedom - because with true liberty comes a hell of a lot of personal responsibility - and most importantly - ACCOUNTABILITY, therefore they clamor for government to pass a bunch of unconstitutional ILLOGICAL laws to 'make them safe', 3. engage in insanity when they vote for some *other* politician who again makes lots of promises, then goes about continuing the slow slide into tyranny. We're already there - they just haven't actually come right and said: Attention all people of the solar federation... Attention all people of the solar federation... Attention all people of the solar federation... We have assumed control... We have assumed control... We have assumed control... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
On 10/18/2007, Ode Coyote (odecoy...@alltel.net) wrote: The H5N1 kills those with healthy immune systems and spares those with weak ones. It's the immune system that causes death, not the virus. It's not the normal flu. Interesting - and we have some of your 'friends' (figuratively speaking) with Phd's to thank for this... No worries - ozone and a mix of the anti-viral/bacterial/fungal herbs and substances (like Grapefruit seed extract) should take care of it in short order - and now we have MMS too... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
On 10/18/2007, Ode Coyote (odecoy...@alltel.net) wrote: I know a few PHDs that have private lives that would just blow you awaysome alien contactees working for the UN and , alt practitioners at home, toe the line scientists at work. Preachers who have very different experiences guiding them, than what they sermonize about on Sunday. They can talk freely to the non-flock who can keep a quiet secret. I'll never name or expose them in any way and they know it. Where is the virtue in having these 'private lives', if they remain hidden and secret? Another question: WHY are the keeping them secret? Certainly not out of fear of what people in general would think. So, obviously, it is out of fear of what their 'superiors' would DO to them (job/career loss? discredited and humiliated? murdered?). Again... these people you seem to revere so much are nothing more than - in my book - COWARDS. Worst of all, these are the very people who could actually do something ABOUT this mess, if enough of them got together and came 'out of the closet' together. Cowards - and worst of all, since these are the people that would actually stand a VERY GOOD CHANCE of bringing an abrupt (but probably nasty) end to the horror that is our current medical/disease paradigm, simply by standing up and speaking out en masse - in accordance with the Nuremberg principles, they are no better than the puppet masters that are pulling the strings, and just as guilty for all of the unnecessary suffering and death. Maybe if they had less 'Phd', and more BALLS, things would be different. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHigh Blood Pressure
CS has helped me so many ways, but could not find a way with my high blood pressure. I am off meds now, but to do this I took cayenne tincture orally daily( This is a challenge) . I am up to 1/2 tsp. 3 x a day, but am trying to get to more, and I take one of Doctor Christopher's products, Hawthorne Berry Syrup. It is so great to be free of the meds, so very very good. I am still taking the cayenne and hawthorne berry syrp and will do so indefinately. This is in answer to the following from Emile Hi has anybody experience or are there known effects / treatments for high blood pressure /eye trombosis using CS or any other succesfull methods. Regards Emile ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: CSHigh Blood Pressure
CS has helped me so many ways, but could not find a way with my high blood pressure. I am off meds now, but to do this I took cayenne tincture orally daily( This is a challenge) . I am up to 1/2 tsp. 3 x a day, but am trying to get to more, and I take one of Doctor Christopher's products, Hawthorne Berry Syrup. It is so great to be free of the meds, so very very good. I am still taking the cayenne and hawthorne berry syrp and will do so indefinately. This is in answer to the following from Emile= ~~~ Hi has anybody experience or are there known effects / treatments for high blood pressure /eye trombosis using CS or any other succesfull methods. Regards. . . Emile ~~ I am taking Dr. Christopher's BPE powder, which has cayenne herbs, 2 tespoons 3X/day in a 1/2 glass water. Doesn't burn as much as you might think when you first think *cayenne*. Gotta chug it down. . . . I get it from= https://lifebalm.com/herbal-products/ Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuarantine
I don't know enough to comment on the manufactured diseases but I do know some of what is being prepared for by law enforcement. My husband retired after 36 years with one of the larger sheriff's offices. He planned to go back as reservist to be able to continue to have contact with his friends and also to make some side money. They were required to attend classes. One of the classes he would have to take is just what you are talking about quarantined children keeping parents away. He said he just couldn't do that and did not continue. He was two years in military at Uncle's request before he was in law enforcement. We were talking on a trip today and he said that all these baby boomers are retiring now and I guess the government does have their own plans for all of us. I'm sure these groups are probably being monitored. I told him today we probably need to consider stock piling some things that are soon going to be unavailable to us. I really hate thinking like that. Dianne - Original Message - From: Simon Jestermailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:07 AM Subject: Re: CSQuarantine I've heard discussions about what would be done in various hypothetical cases. Here's one: a boarding school full of kids has to be quarantined because one or more of them suddenly develops something like Ebola. First false premise: people don't just 'develop' something like Ebola. As soon as quarantine is declared, hordes of parents, some armed, descend on the school determined to get their kids out, I'd be one of them... since ebola is an ENGINEERED virus, why would I want to leave my child's destiny in the hands of the same people (in essence) who are responsible for the situation in the first place? One alternative that I might be willing to put up with instead of seeing how many jack-boots I could take with me would be for 'them' to allow us parents to take our children HOME, and then imprison us there. Another alternative I might consider is if they let me bring all of my 'stuff' with me and join my child(ren) in quarantine... and to hell with anyone else, the No... to hell with the people who engineered these super-bugs. In such a scenario, how would one respond? I'd say the everyone in the boarding school would have to be quarantined and that the angry parents would have to be disarmed.
Fwd: CSHigh Blood Pressure
I wrote about the Hawthorne Berry and Cayenne, but it came thru on someone else's email. Diane M ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ---BeginMessage--- CS has helped me so many ways, but could not find a way with my high blood pressure. I am off meds now, but to do this I took cayenne tincture orally daily( This is a challenge) . I am up to 1/2 tsp. 3 x a day, but am trying to get to more, and I take one of Doctor Christopher's products, Hawthorne Berry Syrup. It is so great to be free of the meds, so very very good. I am still taking the cayenne and hawthorne berry syrp and will do so indefinately. This is in answer to the following from Emile= ~~~ Hi has anybody experience or are there known effects / treatments for high blood pressure /eye trombosis using CS or any other succesfull methods. Regards. . . Emile ~~ I am taking Dr. Christopher's BPE powder, which has cayenne herbs, 2 tespoons 3X/day in a 1/2 glass water. Doesn't burn as much as you might think when you first think *cayenne*. Gotta chug it down. . . . I get it from= https://lifebalm.com/herbal-products/ Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com ---End Message---
RE: CSHigh Blood Pressure
if you're not disabled, physical exercise is the best way to control blood pressure and high cholesterol too. take a daily long walk, a comfortable one, picking it up a bit as conditioning improves and you start to feel like it. i don't know about the eye part...that might not be a problem if the BP isn't high and the meds are purged out of the system? meditation is effective for a lot of people. i'm not sure i know how to do it, but also not sure i don't. i can usually drop my resting pulse and BP to slightly sub-normal by breath control and dropping into some kind of head space i don't really know how to talk about. time to go skate a few miles then eat some of the good stuff i've been making all day. bobL -Original Message- From: teddybe...@aol.com [mailto:teddybe...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHigh Blood Pressure CS has helped me so many ways, but could not find a way with my high blood pressure. I am off meds now, but to do this I took cayenne tincture orally daily( This is a challenge) . I am up to 1/2 tsp. 3 x a day, but am trying to get to more, and I take one of Doctor Christopher's products, Hawthorne Berry Syrup. It is so great to be free of the meds, so very very good. I am still taking the cayenne and hawthorne berry syrp and will do so indefinately. This is in answer to the following from Emile Hi has anybody experience or are there known effects / treatments for high blood pressure /eye trombosis using CS or any other succesfull methods. Regards Emile -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave
Dave What strength CS did you use? Dianne - Original Message - From: Clayton Familymailto:clay...@skypoint.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:44 PM Subject: Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave Thanks. Did you have any adverse reactions to that amount of cs? Like herks, or something else? -Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: I took 6 ounces every half hour of awake time for three days and it broke like a fever in the middle of the night. I've had almost four years of health and energy like a twenty year old ( I was 68 at the time) Now I'm getting tired a lot so don't know if it is coming back or not. No other symptoms. I have been taking MMS and seeing some improvement . Dave Clayton Family wrote: Now this is useful information, thanks. How much did you take to get it under control, and did it go underground, or get killed off? Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Dave wrote: I think that is when they discovered it ( named it) not when it began, before that they called it whatever it seemed to mimic, as Lyme does present a number of maladies. When they had me in the hos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuarantine
faith gagne wrote: - Original Message - *From:* Michael Zangari mailto:truez2...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:50 AM *Subject:* Re: CSQuarantine Infectious disease as a weapon is a fact. Anthrax comes in an arosol form now! In fact, I am a living example of a witness being disabled by targeted infection. MRSA is more common now. I have several friends who have contracted it in hospitals. In the most general terms, biological warfare is a reality we all have to live with. I factor that in to the vaccine talks. But there is a clear over riding issue of safe environment. If you don't have a black light or high density negative ions and are concerned about your personal politics you are behind the times. =z= Waht is a black light please? Faith It is the common term for a UV lamp. Usually long wave UV, often used to make posters glow in the dark, but also good for sterilization. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMore on ionic silver
Check this link. http://tahilla.typepad.com/mrsawatch/wounds_silver/index.html Trem
Re: CSHillary/medicine
Hi There Mike please do not defile the wonderful animal called a horse ! grin !!! Take good care Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWorstPills.org -
Thanks, Paula, I had a problem because I clicked on a link in the beginning.My father had Parkinson's and tried an unapproved drug I think from Europe that I believe was Elavil. He started having delusions and hallucinations that lasted the rest of his life. He would see little green men with strange communication devices and call the military, the police, etc. He would get angry when other people couldn't see them too. He made life miserable for my mom. He couldn't remember who she was and would call the police and say a strange woman was at his house. Right after he died my mother was having terrible diarrhea problems. My doctor sister was there for the funeral and wanted her to go right in for a Barium enema GI scan. I asked if she had started any new medications and she had just been given a new prescription for an arthritis medicine. I looked at the side effects list and one was uncontrollable diarrhea. She stopped the medicine and the diarrhea ended. I could not believe my dr sister would not even consider this possibility. Later my mother was visiting another sister in NYC and took OTC cough medicine with the since much publicized ingredient that causes strokes. She suffered a stroke and my dr. sister insisted she come to Texas to let her help her. She put her on a number of nasty meds one of which is Imiodarone which is spoken of on the Worst Pills site, and another also nasty one I don't remember which causes short term memory loss, confusion and anxiety. These treat atrial fibrillation. My mom is turning 90 this month but can't remember more than the past 5 minutes. Talk about living in the present. She can't even really carry on a conversation of any duration, she will start repeating the whole thing. We had a reunion of all sibs, of course in short order she can't remember it even occurred. And my dr sister can't understand my prejudice against dr's. I'm grateful for this list and other alternative lists that provide real answers and help. Nancy On Oct 17, 2007, at 5:58 AM, Paula Perry wrote: This is for Kurt and anyone else that wants to look at it. It is about drug induced illness. It explains what type of drugs can induce Parkinson's and also other diseases. A good primer on what NOT to take! Anyone taking perscription drugs might want to check this out. Could be your drugs are causing a worse problem than what you started with. Paula http://www.worstpills.org/public/page.cfm?op_id=5 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue / NIACIN
- Original Message - From: Dave ddar...@centurytel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:17 AM Subject: Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue ...I never felt right for 42 years, Then I diagnosed my problem myself with the help of the Internet and cured it with CS in three days. Chronic Fatigue, Pain and Arthritis were the main problems (as well as brain fog) and I'm sure they would have called it one of those if given the chance. It even went so far that they wanted to remove the cartilage from my affected joints. After whipping the Lyme I cured the arthritis with CMO ,Glucosamine, Condroitin along with 6 grams a day of vitamin C and equal amount of L-Lysine and 6 grams of Niacin to help the circulation of these things to the joints. If you want to try this start very small on the niacin as the flush can be severe until you build up a resistance. Dave = Hi Dave. Glad to hear that you finally healed yourself. What a story! You mentioned building up a resistance to niacin so after a while you don't flush from it. You may not know that although this is a common perception of many, there are other factors involved. I thought I'd share with you a tidbit about niacin from my book on sauna therapy, ==beginning excerpt== Niacin (also called nicotinic acid or Vitamin B-3) is known as the flushing vitamin because it causes the skin to redden or become flushed due to capillary enlargement and increased blood flow. It also makes the skin feel itchy and prickly. If people take high enough doses of B-3, they sometimes also feel nauseated, dizzy, disoriented, and even mentally unstable and volatile. For these reasons, niacinamide -- a close relative chemically to niacin that does not cause skin flush or other symptoms -- has become a popular substitute. However, it turns out that this flushing property unique to niacin is not only crucial to the detoxification process, but indicates that a detoxification process is actually occurring. Hubbard's research on niacin, begun in 1950, explains how this detox process works. In Clear Body, Clear Mind: The Effective Purification Program, he wrote: Odd manifestations occurred when this vitamin [niacin] was administered to individuals. Its most startling effect was that it would turn on, in a red flush, a sunburn on the person's body in an exact pattern of a bathing suit! These were very neat patterns. The bathing suit outline was unmistakable. What kind of educated vitamin was this that caused bodies to turn on a flush exactly like a previous sunburn, showing the exact pattern of a bathing suit outline? Could it be, Hubbard wondered, that niacin in itself does not cause a flush, but instead causes the body to start discharging old waste materials that had been stored in the fatty tissue? What if these people were simply recovering from a prior case of sun poisoning, acquired from too much sunbathing while in a swim suit? The subjects in this research program took carefully controlled dosages of niacin. At a 200 mg. (milligram) dose, the sunburnlike flushes eventually disappeared, at which point the dose was increased to 500 mg. At a 500 mg. dose, the flushes recurred, but with less intensity, at which point the dose was increased to 1000 mg. (which equals one gram). At a 1000 mg. dose, there was a small reaction for several days, at which point the dose was increased, and so on. Finally, at a 2000 mg. dose, Hubbard reported, there were no more niacin flush side effects. The person would feel fine, his 'sunburn' would be gone, and he would experience no more flush from the niacin. Both British and American pharmacopoeia agencies, Hubbard also pointed out, advertised that the niacin flush -- presumably an intrinsic characteristic of the vitamin -- is inherently negative to the body, and thus toxic in large amounts. But if niacin was toxic, the author asked, how was it that the more you 'overdosed' [on] it the sooner you no longer experienced the sunburnlike flushes from it? Those in orthodox medicine circles hypothesized that this was an example of the body's adjusting to unfavorable conditions by repressing the symptoms, and thus appearing asymptomatic. But this hypothesis was completely unsatisfactory, in view of the bathing suit outline on the test subjects! Nevertheless, Hubbard's revealing evidence was mostly ignored by mainstream doctors and scientists. They didn't consider Hubbard qualified to do research, regardless of how carefully he designed his experiments or how coherent and rational his observations were. Six years later, Hubbard had the opportunity to gather even more compelling data when working with subjects who had been exposed to fallout from atomic bomb tests, atomic accidents, and materials that had been part of an old atomic bomb explosion. In
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue
The pathogen is Borrelia burgdorferi and all of its friends. The aspartame and mercury are food for the bugs. Yes lyme has been around for a long time, they just keep making it better all the time. Keeps us confused that way. In a recent study 100 out of 100 alzhiemers patients tested postive for Bb post mortum, very intersting. Kurt Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: I used the wrong word. I meant weapnoized for the lyme. Lyme existed long before it was apparently weaponized, but apparently as a much less virulent strain. The present epidemic seems to have developed from a strain that appeared near Lyme in the 70's. Do you have anything to support that the other diseases you listed are designer? I know that several can be caused by neurotoxins, such as aspertame and mercury, but as a designer disease, I would think a pathogen would be required. Marshall Kurt Milkowski wrote: Well you have to look at how long other designer disease have been around. Here are a few, alhiemers, als, parkinsons, ms, lupus, autism, just to name a few. Kurt */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a new disease, been around for a long time. Just became named recently. From what I have been able to determine it was designed in the early to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's biological warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. Marshall */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall Kurt */jessie70 /* wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt */Clayton Family /* wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well. It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen The Future of Food ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute declared that up to one billion people around the world could die during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is about to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
My guess would be the same assholes that load the webmd site. Kurt T. J. Garland noblemet...@bellsouth.net wrote: ODE, who do you think puts the info on Wikipedia? More MSM bullshit. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? Regardless of unproven bullshit, Does any transport person have the right to be a disease carrier? You are saying that the smallpox vaccine hasn't eliminated smallpox? ..That cowpox antibodies don't immunize from smallpox? Which vaccines work and which don't and that some vaccines may be harmful to some people for different reasons, may be questionable, but the whole field of vaccination is pretty much an over all proven success with centuries of experience to back it up. Smallpox inoculation was started in India or China before 200 BC.[1] In 1718, Lady Mary Wortley Montague reported that the Turks have a habit of deliberately inoculating themselves with fluid taken from mild cases of smallpox and she inoculated her own children.[2] In 1796 Edward Jenner inoculated using cowpox (a mild relative of the deadly smallpox virus). Pasteur and others built on this Ode At 02:38 PM 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote: I don't think they can force you to take a vaccine, but they can constitutionally en force a quarantine. No, they can't - but they can UNconstitutinally enforce one. If you aren't vaccinated, you disqualify yourself from being an enforcer or having any part in a transport operation, becoming a potential part of the problem vs part of any solution. ? Vaccines simply DON'T WORK. It appears you have fallen for the FUD? No job and rightly so, but not force, just choice. Work safe or stay at home. Bullshit... sorry, Ode, but this is ridiculous. No one has the 'Right' to force someone to do something so ridiculous in order to keep a job. Vaccines are one of the big cons - right up there with the income tax and drivers licenses. A vaccine costs everyone a lot less than a quarantine, More bullshit. A vaccine won't prevent diddly. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 3:09 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 3:09 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 3:09 PM
Re: CSDoctors...
OK, if they know they are lying, but consider that there are many ailments that don't amount to a diagnosis of some syndrome or known pathology. ALso, in the early stages, depending how a patient presents themsleves, and with no clear indications, why fear the worst, when things do spontaneously improve - or should do. Like, I somethimes don't feel 100%. But as I never go to the doctor for anything, unless I need surgery to remove a bullet or something, or to witness my concussion after slipping on a supermarket floor (ho ho), I say to myself, look here somehting is wrong, you are pushing yourself and living unhealthily. LIke I rest before I get bad flu, and go for a walk in the fresh air if I've been too sedentary. Those nasty symptoms, of being run down, could be the beginning of cancer, or ME, muscle atrophy, bone deterioration, myoinfarction etc. And sure, I know myself I've had them all and cured them at the outset. Also, it's worth considering that doctors do value the placebo effect, tell a patient there is nothing wrong, is known to have a benign effect a lot of the time - reassurance. It helps people to get over minor (or early) stage symptoms. I don't think all doctors think their patients are imagining symptoms all the time...like the symptoms of old age are widespread, but non-specific. Well, that's to expand understanding of the big picture. But I don't forget, doctors can be ruthless, corrupt, nasty, petty, overbearing, vain, stupid, arrogant, and as you say, evil. But not all of them all the time. The main problem is medicine as an industry. Same with herbalism, reiki, housebuilding, convenience food, spiritual guides that accost you in your living room... you name it. But getting a haircut isn't so bad, unless you you go to Sweeny Todd (who worked for a doctor, I think). JOhn --On 16 October 2007 14:42:08 -0700 Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is wrong with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with them all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I know there may be some that don't have a clue as to whats going on, but if they've been around for a while they know. Kurt Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: It's mostly self defense that makes Doctors toe the official line If they weren't constantly under attack, they could afford to explore more...but deviate just a little and be wrong, unbelievable law suits, flocks of vultures swoop in for their pound of flesh with the victim getting a third share. I've met a few that will whisper, very quitely and privately, Colloidal Silver, then pretend he didn't. I've had some at my house and turned them on to CS. I know a few dentists that would love to be able to use EIS in their practice...they've seen what it can do with their own eyes. Looks goodunfortunately, can't use it Most doctors...almost ALL doctors...are very sincere people, but they have to huddle under the legal umbrella for protection. I sold a box of 6 EIS generators delivered to a hospital in NYC...probably to treat street people who don't have lawyers or any money, and several more to names with MD behind them...I assume, for their friends and families. No, they aren't Devils and they aren't stupidthey are afraid. Ode On Oct 15, 2007, at 5:09 AM, M. G. Devour wrote: Allow for the existence of the exceptional few... *every* time you make a statement about doctors. It doesn't take many words -- most, nearly all -- to tranform the environment from hostile to merely unfriendly. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1072 - Release Date: 10/15/2007 5:55 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
To be fair, SImon is not knocking, or discussing CS knowledge, but it's uptake by the pharmacology industry and students. SO in that way, he is not knocking Ode's credibility on that. Perhaps he is challenging, and incensed, with the dismissive attitude to wards those who do not accept that they should be shot for refusing to go along with a medical theory (vaccination) and it's practice. About this subject, I don't think CS knoweldge is the same: it requires reading of the alternative evidence first of the theory and practice of vaccination. JOhn --On 17 October 2007 01:34:45 +0200 Richard r...@xxicenturysilver.com wrote: Simon , why are you attacking Ode´s credibility and attempting to be clever? Ode knows a lot more about CS than you, he certainly writes a lot better than you and his Silver puppy generators are the best on the market . Are you really a simple minded peasant or is that just a giant chip on your shoulder? have a nice day - Richard On 16/10/2007, at 19:57, Simon Jester wrote: Silver IS being rediscovered in more effective forms as nano- technology and ion exchange technology are better understood though progression of discovery. You haven't noticed how many products it's being used in lately? The list is a long one. Even the Pharm is catching on. Sp, we should just bow down and worship at the altar of big pharm because they have deigned to acknowledge something that some of us simple-minded peasants have known for many many years? As of around 5 years ago, a pharm research department head friend of mine was working on metallic nano particles. That's all he would say. Ahh... some explanation for your attitude at last. Begone, herr medical-fascist. Might have been touched off by a CS generator gift a year earlier. I don't know, but he got pretty quiet after that. They aren't all turkeys , you know. Maybe not turkeys - but definitely COWARDS. If even a SMALL number of these people would stand up to the tyranny, the big pharmas house of cards would come tumbling down around their heads - and many, many people would end up in jail - and if I had my druthers, on DEATH ROW - for their crimes against humanity. You'd be surprised at how 'cool' some of these guys are, just under the lab coats, nearly incomprehensible back deck barbecue party conversations and triple PHD exteriors. Yeah, really 'cool'... Ode, you just lost any shred of credibility you may have had... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDoctors...
This conversation has been a discussion , I thought. Why dislike it? ALso, Faith, admiring people because they are professionals is risky. Of course all doctors shouldn't be thought of in the same way, which means criticism, and also of the medical system - which is what is really at issue here, is valid and necessary by public and doctors alike. One example DOctor Ron PAul, who criticises the medical system - particularly the corruptive government involvement in that system. JOhn --On 16 October 2007 19:40:13 -0400 faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: I am really fed up with this conversation. I have 3 or 4 extremely good and wonderrful doctors who have not only helped me immeasurably over and over again, but who I have come to consider kind, loving and caring friend. All this doctor-bashing is really getting to me. I like and admire professional people and If you do not like or trust doctors that is your problem. Faith - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: Re: CSDoctors... When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is wrong with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with them all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I know there may be some that don't have a clue as to whats going on, but if they've been around for a while they know. Kurt Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: It's mostly self defense that makes Doctors toe the official line If they weren't constantly under attack, they could afford to explore more...but deviate just a little and be wrong, unbelievable law suits, flocks of vultures swoop in for their pound of flesh with the victim getting a third share. I've met a few that will whisper, very quitely and privately, Colloidal Silver, then pretend he didn't. I've had some at my house and turned them on to CS. I know a few dentists that would love to be able to use EIS in their practice...they've seen what it can do with their own eyes. Looks goodunfortunately, can't use it Most doctors...almost ALL doctors...are very sincere people, but they have to huddle under the legal umbrella for protection. I sold a box of 6 EIS generators delivered to a hospital in NYC...probably to treat street people who don't have lawyers or any money, and several more to names with MD behind them...I assume, for their friends and families. No, they aren't Devils and they aren't stupidthey are afraid. Ode On Oct 15, 2007, at 5:09 AM, M. G. Devour wrote: Allow for the existence of the exceptional few... *every* time you make a statement about doctors. It doesn't take many words -- most, nearly all -- to tranform the environment from hostile to merely unfriendly. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1072 - Release Date: 10/15/2007 5:55 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSDoctors...
This is an important point I think , Nancy. I could expand briefly: limited knowledge of biochemical processes and nutrition has led to spurious conclusions, fashions and so on. Many of these were taken up and publicised by a competitive food industry (processed foods). MOreover, processed food, which has increased beyond belief, presents a complicated picture. And, quality of produce has deteriorated along with soils. JOhn --On 16 October 2007 18:32:11 -0700 Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com wrote: My experience is that doctors actually don't know what is wrong when the cause of the problem is nutritional. They are not taught nutrition in medical school. So they can tell you straight-faced that you have a disease whose cause is unknown and it cannot be cured but they can give you drugs to treat the symptoms or surgery. That is what they told me about my bursitis and also my thumb/tendon problem I had as a nursing mother (both just needing more calcium and magnesium in a absorbable form). My doctor sister said, But that's just one doctor that didn't know but actually I have met 4 other women who had the same problem when nursing and were told the same lies, and one had the scars from the unnecessary surgery. It takes a special doctor to have knowledge of nutrition, I haven't seen one yet. My sister does try some, and will try to help people correct their diets. Yes, my youngest sister is a doctor and just visited along with my other 3 siblings. She said she was afraid to open her mouth about her medical views since I'm such an alternative nutcase (not her words) and I act so superior. Then she proceeded to say she was worried I would die of something like appendicitis because I wouldn't seek the attention of a doctor. Talk about acting superior. I asked her why she couldn't test people for their mineral deficiencies and treat their nutritional diseases, and she said the insurance company would not pay for the tests, or there were no tests for some. We parted still at an empasse. Nancy On Oct 16, 2007, at 2:42 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is wrong with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with them all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I know there may be some that don't have a clue as to whats going on, but if they've been around for a while they know. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDoctors...
In the past five or so years, all the doctors I have visited, except one, has been fair enough. A lot depends on my attitude, and they sense I have little patience for arrogance or 'lack of disclosure'. THey could lose me (it's in my eye's - non-dependency) so they do their best within the constraints to advise. I treat them respectfully as consultants, but I am the decision-maker. My intelligence must be addressed. The one idiot was a dermatologist (seeing my little boy) who pulled mocking faces when my wife reported trials of homeopathy- as if she were a fool to try: he wore a bow tie. He poo pooed everything we were attempting ( mattresses, carpets/flooring etc, heat regulation) We didn't bother with his drugs. SHortly after I diagnosed leaky gut, and had this conformed by a private consultant. Could I blame the UK hospital doctors? not really - it is all political. THree years later, the same hospital kindly informs me 'a lot of child eczema is gut-related'). Then they offered loads of useless blood/allergy tests. THe results came, and they couldn't tell me whether the 'highs' were high compared to the general population or to eczema children. You see, all eczema children show elevated scores across the whole range. THis is a symptom, and the food is not the cause (multiple food intolerances). IN fact you can predict that the higher the protein content the greater the intolerance, taking into account the degree to which the protein is broken down to amino acids (e.g fermented soya products, pulses, parmesan as opposed to non-matured cheese). ALso, they don't test the food we actually eat. If they test wheat as bread, which bread? Which flour? And so forth. Conclusion: beware of DOctors with bow-ties. JOhn --On 16 October 2007 21:59:38 -0400 Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote: The main doctor I see is very open minded about my ideals of how I want to be treated for problems I go in for and tries hard to work with me. She will suggest things and listens to what I say. We don't always agree with what I need but she treats my decisions with respect. That is not always the experience I have had with doctors but this one is different. I feel fortunate to have her for a doctor. Dianne - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: CSDoctors... I am really fed up with this conversation. I have 3 or 4 extremely good and wonderrful doctors who have not only helped me immeasurably over and over again, but who I have come to consider kind, loving and caring friend. All this doctor-bashing is really getting to me. I like and admire professional people and If you do not like or trust doctors that is your problem. Faith - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: Re: CSDoctors... When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is wrong with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with them all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I know there may be some that don't have a clue as to whats going on, but if they've been around for a while they know. Kurt Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: It's mostly self defense that makes Doctors toe the official line If they weren't constantly under attack, they could afford to explore more...but deviate just a little and be wrong, unbelievable law suits, flocks of vultures swoop in for their pound of flesh with the victim getting a third share. I've met a few that will whisper, very quitely and privately, Colloidal Silver, then pretend he didn't. I've had some at my house and turned them on to CS. I know a few dentists that would love to be able to use EIS in their practice...they've seen what it can do with their own eyes. Looks goodunfortunately, can't use it Most doctors...almost ALL doctors...are very sincere people, but they have to huddle under the legal umbrella for protection. I sold a box of 6 EIS generators delivered to a hospital in NYC...probably to treat street people who don't have lawyers or any money, and several more to names with MD behind them...I assume, for their friends and families. No, they aren't Devils and they aren't stupidthey are afraid. Ode On Oct 15, 2007, at 5:09 AM, M. G. Devour wrote: Allow for the existence of the exceptional few... *every* time you make a statement about doctors. It doesn't take many words -- most, nearly all -- to tranform the environment from hostile to merely unfriendly. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1072 - Release Date: 10/15/2007 5:55 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to:
Re: CSSalt therapy
These symptoms of the chest are not confined in their relation to the inner lings of the chest, as regards infections. They may also be , and often are when chronic, due to the chest muscles, their blood and nerve supply, the myofarcal membrane. THese are both postural flexor muscles involved with breathing. They also affect the mucosal lining in that their exercise helps to maintain loosening and renewal. Exercise is the remedy, and yoga is about the most specialised, though other exercises have much in common. If you act on the assumption that there is infection, then you may be right: infection is always occurring and being dealt with to a greater or lesser degree. Best not to assume you have no need for exercise in its alleviation; the primary problem may be 'weakness of the chest', but such constitutions are also behaviorally engendered, in that we learn the breathing patterns and posture of our parents too. Well, that offers a lot of scope then. Exercise of the chest, and upper chest, can take you far. I would go so far as to say that a weak chest is symptomatic of a fairly blocked movement in the chest. The famous hatha yogin, Iyengar, took up yoga particularly because he was afflicted with a weak chest when he was a boy, which gave rise to pulmonary diseases and arrested development. JOhn JOhn --On 17 October 2007 10:45:53 +0100 Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: The trouble is Smitty, it gets really painful and feels as if I can't breathe. The last time I had to have anti-biotics which didn't do me any good at all. Just thought the salt thing might be an alternative. Still taking the CS though which does keep it under and makes me feel better. Thanks anyway. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Smitty Date: 16/10/2007 20:33:55 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSalt therapy I haven't used *salt pipe* but from past experience, chest infections take a long time to heal. . . . have patience. Smitty -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
Sounds like placebo working in the other half. --On 17 October 2007 02:54:40 -0700 Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: FLU SHOTS: THEY DON'T PROTECT THE ELDERLY, NEW DATA REVEALS Flu shots for the elderly are far less effective than doctors like to tell us. In fact, they are incapable of preventing up to half of all deaths from influenza and pneumonia in the elderly, new data suggests. Despite this, governments continue to spend millions of dollars on ineffective vaccines and mislead the public. http://healthy. net/scr/news. asp?id=9445 Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: You'd be surprised at how 'cool' some of these guys are, just under the lab coats, nearly incomprehensible back deck barbecue party conversations and triple PHD exteriors No hookers to go along with the barbeques? It would help ease thier minds as they develope new ways to kill people. Kurt Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Maybe not turkeys - but definitely COWARDS. If even a SMALL number of these people would stand up to the tyranny, the big pharmas house of cards would come tumbling down around their heads - and many, many people would end up in jail - and if I had my druthers, on DEATH ROW - for their crimes against humanity. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWorstPills.org -
I think all drugs are harmful when not used in an emergency situation, and even there I am not convinced unless there ar eno alternatives. E.g. cooling the brain following concussion and brain damage (even a flannel, and a breeze through the window, if not the new brain cooling equipment, rather than anti-inflammatories). JOhn --On 17 October 2007 08:58:18 -0400 Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net wrote: http://www.worstpills.org/public/page.cfm?op_id=5 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMore on ionic silver
Trem, Bravo for them. I wonder if products like those would even be allowed in the USA given big pharma's criminal activity with the FDA. - Original Message - From: Trem To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:53 PM Subject: CSMore on ionic silver Check this link. http://tahilla.typepad.com/mrsawatch/wounds_silver/index.html Trem
Re: CSDoctors...[Carol] - Kurt
All true Carol Ann, and nicely put. But anger is the natural emotion felt at perceived injustice. Deception is an example. and the anger has an object, though maybe fuzzy. It shouldn' t be all doctors, and is also a system of political corruption. But that seems almost like all doctors. We do bring our children up with some sense of understanding that people have different roles, and in that we put trust if possible. With medicine it may be that we are not necessarily lied to, and doctors aren't researchers, merely robots. The problems are immense, but there is plenty of evidence from doctors themselves. As someone put it earlier, med school has few lecturers, but teachers of a syllabus. Critical thinking is largely lacking. JOhn. --On 17 October 2007 06:25:01 -0700 Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Kurt ~ Re your sis. Forget mistakes. Forget failures. Forget everything except what you're going to do now and do it. ;) Ya know, of course, that by now, what you are experiencing is a learning process which is sometimes very painful but very applicable to the old saying...what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. The problems you mention are universal, no need to take it personally on the chin in silence or turn the other cheek. Our current system is merely a mirror of societies deeply entrenched belief systems; what people acquiesce to by letting govt,media, perceived gurus (doc's included) demonstrates/mirrors how people have allowed themselves to be used. There has always been way to much complacency...the you do it for me because I don't want to be responsible mentality. Others become the ultimate teachers, bosses, healers. Someone, just tell me what to do mentality! Boils down to ideological worship and foolishness. Is it frustrating. Absolutely. Unfortunately, humans need to be tricked, lied to and deceived before they can become aware. Those that become aware are the better for it. Not to hijack the thread in any way, but I will make a quick reference for to the current state of affairs re the Iraq War as an analogy. People allowed the progression of national affairs in this regard because of complacency, lack of interest, naivety, acquiescence of their voting power, etc, etc. Like it or not..what the medical professions and govt are accused of doing is really reflecting complacency and heinous archaic common beliefs and projecting the drama back. ...which means, for the most part, in many ways, those choosing to remain in acceptance and un-informed, are essentially no better than the accused. Undirected anger is imvho just a waste of exceptional and often, very productive energy. Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hey Carol, I do what I can to let others know. I should probably let you know that my sister belongs to this group of quacks known as md's. Whose fault is it for trusting doctors? Mine. Having a sister for an md I thought I had and in. All pretty funny that I had to suffer for such a long time before waking up. I might seem a bit angry to some about it, and I am. The anger however is mostly at myself for letting myself be decieved. Kurt Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Kurt ~ Doctors are no more evil or good based solely upon their profession than say...your local pastor, or service engineer be they mechanics or plumbers. More so when the individual seeking advice is totally ignorant about the service sought. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Vaccines Part 3
It's funny how researchers are still running to the east to determine the latest strains of flu. You would have thought by now flu could evolve new forms in the west. CLearly some misinformation is going on here. JOhn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDoctors, EFA Profile list and Example
within the normal range is not the ideal range. Some (Omega's) are low throughout the American population, as a whole. JOhn --On 17 October 2007 09:02:15 -0500 CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net wrote: Morning Faith, At 07:26 AM 10/17/2007, you wrote: What's an EFA profile? Don't feel bad, most doctors do not know. Essential Fatty Acid Profile. There are about 29 items on the list. Mine had to go to the Mayo Clinic. Local Blood Labs cannot usually do it. At age 64, every single item was within the normal range. You can see one here. ( Mine ) http://www.fugitt.com/blood/efa_wf.jpg Try to make it larger with your browser, the copy quality is not good, but it can be read. Not sure what all it proves. Maybe it proves one does not have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peeling. Wayne Many people would sooner die than think. In fact they do. http://www.miraclemineral.org/ Silver file Area... http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/ MDI Subscribe Email mailto:mdi_news-subscr...@yahoogroups.com - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOde, can i use this elsewhere if needed?.... Forced flu vaccines?
Hold your horses, include my reply please. JOhn --On 17 October 2007 12:54:35 -0400 bob Larson bobli...@toadmail.com wrote: Great post Ode. ...really. clap clap, whistles, BIC lighter, foot stomping. Ode, i'd like permission to cross post it to other lists when this debate rears up now and then. Faith - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 9:14 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? Damn Simon! That's good for a belly laugh. Talk about fear! Do you foam at the mouth all the time? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHelp destroy internet scraper sites.
There is actually a colloidal silver aspect to this. A local scraper site has posted a very alarmist, high rating, anti-colloidal silver message in order to attract hits whenever someone types 'colloidal silver' into google. I can't get them to remove it (I've tried) but maybe we can slowly stop things getting worse. David - Help clean up the internet by destroying 'scraper' sites. 'Scraper' sites are websites that steal content from other sites and provide little or no original content themselves. They exist solely to earn money by tricking people into clicking the small Google Adwords that they display. You know the types of sites we mean, with headlines like 'We've got the best info about widgets'. Or '20 facts about Widgets'. Some scraper sites are better disguised and will provide a few paragraphs of info, or a link to the original source, but they are still just PARASITIC scraper sites even though they may call themselves a news or information 'service' WHENEVER YOU COME ACROSS A SCRAPER SITE CLICK EVERY ADVERTISEMENT ON THE PAGE! EVENTUALLY THIS WILL ENCOURAGE ADWORDS ADVERTISERS TO PREVENT THEIR ADS FROM APPEARING ON SCRAPER SITES. They can do this simply by going into their Google Adwords Campaign Settings and turning off 'Content Network'. (Their Adwords will still appear on legitimate Google search pages). When the Adwords stop appearing on scraper sites, the scraper sites will die. Scraper sites are ruining the internet. They steal content, use fraudulent clicks to rip-off Adwords advertisers, and they are slowly making searches worthless as they clutter the results pages with useless sites. Anyone who has a website should support this campaign. Many scraper sites now outrank the sites from which they steal the information. Your website could be the next to fall. Anyone who advertises using Google Adwords should switch off 'Network Content' now. HELP DESTROY PARASITIC SCRAPER SITES! Please send this information to all your friends and business associates. Send this message to chat groups. If you have a legitimate website then post this message on your website - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave
Yes but compared to what I was going through with the Lyme I didn't give a damn if it killed me. So when the herx started I just ignored it. I had already been through a couple of pint bottles and thought it was another scam so I jumped right in with both feet and when the Herx hit I was thankful for it because i then new it was actually doing something. Dave Clayton Family wrote: Thanks. Did you have any adverse reactions to that amount of cs? Like herks, or something else? -Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: I took 6 ounces every half hour of awake time for three days and it broke like a fever in the middle of the night. I've had almost four years of health and energy like a twenty year old ( I was 68 at the time) Now I'm getting tired a lot so don't know if it is coming back or not. No other symptoms. I have been taking MMS and seeing some improvement . Dave Clayton Family wrote: Now this is useful information, thanks. How much did you take to get it under control, and did it go underground, or get killed off? Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Dave wrote: I think that is when they discovered it ( named it) not when it began, before that they called it whatever it seemed to mimic, as Lyme does present a number of maladies. When they had me in the hos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Doctors...
Yeah, me too. Really, I want a vaccine against that nazi fascist attitude of the public...it's pandemic, this abandonment of common sense and worship of paid experts to think for us. JOhn --On 17 October 2007 15:23:05 -0700 Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I think Simon is just fed up with the nazi facist attitude of the public as am I. Kurt Richard r...@xxicenturysilver.com wrote: Simon, why are you so aggressive ? are you really a tough guy or just pretending . ? What is a pinch of salt in your lingo ? Cheer up or chill , please ! Richard On 17/10/2007, at 18:40, Simon Jester wrote: On 10/17/2007, Dave (ddar...@centurytel.net) wrote: Simon: Do you consider that Ode just might be stirring the pot? In the distant past Ode expressed views that weren't that much different than yours. When someone advocates something like he is advocating, in the manner and medium that he is, no, don't consider such a possibility. If he is, then he is a sick bastard... and I would happily 'explain' this to him in person. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave
I make 20 ppm. the stuff I was buying before getting my generator was 10 ppm. Dave Dianne France wrote: Dave What strength CS did you use? Dianne - Original Message - *From:* Clayton Family mailto:clay...@skypoint.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:44 PM *Subject:* Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave Thanks. Did you have any adverse reactions to that amount of cs? Like herks, or something else? -Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: I took 6 ounces every half hour of awake time for three days and it broke like a fever in the middle of the night. I've had almost four years of health and energy like a twenty year old ( I was 68 at the time) Now I'm getting tired a lot so don't know if it is coming back or not. No other symptoms. I have been taking MMS and seeing some improvement . Dave Clayton Family wrote: Now this is useful information, thanks. How much did you take to get it under control, and did it go underground, or get killed off? Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Dave wrote: I think that is when they discovered it ( named it) not when it began, before that they called it whatever it seemed to mimic, as Lyme does present a number of maladies. When they had me in the hos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Greater good for society, means don't do wrong. You believe in vaccines, some people believe witch doctors. I cannot force witch doctors on you. You cannot force vaccinations on me. I c an't even force fresh air on you. The greater evil for society is when people practice 'bitter medicine' for the greater good of society. An excuse always, carried by the necessary dupes to get a consensus, with an ulterior motive. The greater good is immoral, wrong, because the 'bitter medicine' is premeditated harm. for Society is a collection of individuals. No one, even from a lottery is to be condemmned just because you fear death. Society is all the people, even those you choose not to name, and think are nameless. There is no good for society with intervention. It's against the individual, and nature. Society is not more important than just one of the people. You may mean, by society, human survival: but it is not the same thing. Without vaccinations , and with natural death, the population will be fitter. Now that's a greater good, because no one needs to commit a horrible crime, or fear death. We can be willing to die if we're weak. Which is the way we're made. You haven't answered the important question, if you are vaccinated, what are you afraid of? JOhn --On 17 October 2007 19:21:23 -0400 Mark Siepak bro...@gtcinternet.com wrote: My beef is with people - like Ode - who believe they have some kind of Right to force their medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices* on me and my family and friends - and anyone else who claims the Right to own their own life and body. Well, now, aren't you forcing YOUR medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices* on ME when you refuse to be vaccinated against communicable diseases like smallpox or polio? After all, I DO think vaccinations work, and even if the rate of bad reactions was 10% (more like one and a half percent), I think it is worth maybe 10,000 with bad reactions, to avoid having pandemics kill millions every 15-30 years. Of course, if my child were one with the bad reaction, I would probably want to blame someone. Of course, you unvaccinated people could go to Hawaii, so no one else would die when the inevitable pandemic swept your 'nation'! Sometimes the greater good for society is bitter medicine, pun intended. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
--On 17 October 2007 19:26:00 -0400 Mark Siepak bro...@gtcinternet.com wrote: the first known outbreak not occurring until mass smallpox vaccination 100 years ago Ever thought that the people getting polio in that outbreak might have, in pre-vaccination times, die from smallpox before they had a chance to develop polio? THat's irrational - you're suggesting everyone died of smallpox at a young age! Sort of like cancer is so prevalent now. Now that people live past 37 years old, that is ANother myth: people only lived shorter lives in the bad new industrial times. Prior to that, if they lived past infant age they lived longer on average. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDoctors...[Carol]
How beautiful. --On 17 October 2007 19:01:26 -0700 Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Kurt - p.s. Enjoy Life. Sometimes people can get so absolutely preoccupied and caught up in inconsequential psycho dramas to the exclusion of all else ( even illness is not excluded) that they forget some of important things that make less than desirable health more bearable. Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey there, speak for thee...and not for we.[Image: 05.gif] I dunno know about thee, I've been going left when everyone else was going right since I was but a wee babeor so my daddy used to tell me up until the day he died. Society overall, has not yet demonstrated to me why I should do an about face any time soon. Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hey Carol, History just keeps repeating itself. Its really kind of funny when you think about it. We get all knids of new toys to play with but we don't get any smarter do we? Kurt Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I dont believe that it is self defense that inhibit most doctors from practicing better. I believe more in what John said in the last two paragraphs about them being arrogant, nasty, etc etc. Sorry I have had just to many bad experiences with medical people to be able to think any other way. ITs sad but true. I dont trust that they have the best intentions towards me or their patients and worst of all, I dont trust that they know what they are doing most of the time, except like JOhn mentions, maybe to remove a bullet . __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue / NIACIN
Nenah: Glad to have you back! I well know the power of Niacin, the first time I used it I took a 500 mg tablet and waited about a half an hour for the flush,it didn't come so I took another one. I turned bright red all over( not like a swim suit) and the slightest movement made me feel like I was rolling in fiberglass insulation. My heart rate came up until it seemed close to that of a jackhammer. That lasted for 12 hours,so that is why I always say to start small and work up. Now I take 3 grams and get a mild flush which is my goal. The niacin has rid me of all spider veins and turned my numb right foot back to normal for a 20 year old. I'm 72. Sounds to me like Hubbard may be full of it! Dave Nenah Sylver wrote: - Original Message - From: Dave ddar...@centurytel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:17 AM Subject: Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue ...I never felt right for 42 years, Then I diagnosed my problem myself with the help of the Internet and cured it with CS in three days. Chronic Fatigue, Pain and Arthritis were the main problems (as well as brain fog) and I'm sure they would have called it one of those if given the chance. It even went so far that they wanted to remove the cartilage from my affected joints. After whipping the Lyme I cured the arthritis with CMO ,Glucosamine, Condroitin along with 6 grams a day of vitamin C and equal amount of L-Lysine and 6 grams of Niacin to help the circulation of these things to the joints. If you want to try this start very small on the niacin as the flush can be severe until you build up a resistance. Dave = Hi Dave. Glad to hear that you finally healed yourself. What a story! You mentioned building up a resistance to niacin so after a while you don't flush from it. You may not know that although this is a common perception of many, there are other factors involved. I thought I'd share with you a tidbit about niacin from my book on sauna therapy, ==beginning excerpt== Niacin (also called nicotinic acid or Vitamin B-3) is known as the flushing vitamin because it causes the skin to redden or become flushed due to capillary enlargement and increased blood flow. It also makes the skin feel itchy and prickly. If people take high enough doses of B-3, they sometimes also feel nauseated, dizzy, disoriented, and even mentally unstable and volatile. For these reasons, niacinamide -- a close relative chemically to niacin that does not cause skin flush or other symptoms -- has become a popular substitute. However, it turns out that this flushing property unique to niacin is not only crucial to the detoxification process, but indicates that a detoxification process is actually occurring. Hubbard's research on niacin, begun in 1950, explains how this detox process works. In Clear Body, Clear Mind: The Effective Purification Program, he wrote: Odd manifestations occurred when this vitamin [niacin] was administered to individuals. Its most startling effect was that it would turn on, in a red flush, a sunburn on the person's body in an exact pattern of a bathing suit! These were very neat patterns. The bathing suit outline was unmistakable. What kind of educated vitamin was this that caused bodies to turn on a flush exactly like a previous sunburn, showing the exact pattern of a bathing suit outline? Could it be, Hubbard wondered, that niacin in itself does not cause a flush, but instead causes the body to start discharging old waste materials that had been stored in the fatty tissue? What if these people were simply recovering from a prior case of sun poisoning, acquired from too much sunbathing while in a swim suit? The subjects in this research program took carefully controlled dosages of niacin. At a 200 mg. (milligram) dose, the sunburnlike flushes eventually disappeared, at which point the dose was increased to 500 mg. At a 500 mg. dose, the flushes recurred, but with less intensity, at which point the dose was increased to 1000 mg. (which equals one gram). At a 1000 mg. dose, there was a small reaction for several days, at which point the dose was increased, and so on. Finally, at a 2000 mg. dose, Hubbard reported, there were no more niacin flush side effects. The person would feel fine, his 'sunburn' would be gone, and he would experience no more flush from the niacin. Both British and American pharmacopoeia agencies, Hubbard also pointed out, advertised that the niacin flush -- presumably an intrinsic characteristic of the vitamin -- is inherently negative to the body, and thus toxic in large amounts. But if niacin was toxic, the author asked, how was it that the more you 'overdosed' [on] it the sooner you no longer experienced the sunburnlike flushes from it? Those in orthodox medicine circles hypothesized that this was an example of the body's
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