RE: CS>Irregular heartbeat follow-up. My answer was ....

[Judy Knowlton]

I was in the ER 2 times in the past 3 years for wildly erratic heartbeat  (I’m 
80) diagnosed as serious arrhythmia until I learned it was (for me anyway) 
simply due to very low potassium! 

First time, IV potassium drip.

Second time, I said I bet it’s a potassium lack. They did a blood test and 
offered me a glass of liquid potassium (Avoid that! Yuk!)

 

My Nurse Practitioner who is my Primary (Allowed in Maine) tested my heart 
again and we decided being more careful of diet and supplements would be enough.

Now, if my heart has a hint of getting out of hand, I eat some potassium-laden 
foods and pop a potassium pill., and 2 glasses of water. End of problem within 
an hour. 

 

From: Da Darrin [mailto:ddarrin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:41 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Irregular heartbeat follow-up.

 

All messages from Deborah come to me via the spam folder.

Dave

 

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Ron  > wrote:

And this was in my Spam folder??

Yes I do take mag and trace minerals.

On 11/16/2015 9:15 AM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

Do you take magnesium?

 

 

On Monday, November 16, 2015 8:27 AM, Ron   
 wrote:

 

Not long ago I mentioned a PVC (premature heartbeat) problem. This has 
persisted off and on for over 2 weeks.
I looked at possible electrolyte imbalance. Varied the various 
supplements that I was taking and considered that it could be anxiety 
caused. Nope!   [SNIPPED]
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Re: CSSalts and silver compounds.-- and turning blue?

[Judy Knowlton]

Hi, folks ... old-timer here who is comfortable with the old ways.
Seems to me I remember that making CS with salt, or tap water or  ?
may cause unusual retention of silver (which seems to leave the body 
naturally within a short period). A very few people over the years have 
played with CS making  and used IV for administering. A couple have 
literally turned blue and been used by Big Pharma to denigrate the 
efficacy of our simple potion.

Others here will have to give educated facts, however.
Judy Down Maine

-Original Message- 
From: Debra  David

Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:37 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSalts and silver compounds.

Jason said...
Regarding using salts:  When you add salt to the water, the reason the
solution can hold more silver is that salt changes the solubility.
Seawater has about 35,000 PPM of salts, so you can easily (for example)
create a silver solution in the hundreds. 

Me...
You get more 'suspension' perhaps but not more 'solution' as far as I
can tell. When I've made CS with distilled water and salt, added to a
strength of 200 and 400 uS, (as an experiment)  I get no uS (ionic)
increase but a I do see a very heavy TE indicating its all in suspended
silverchloride particles.  This is what puzzles me about my tap water
experiment. When I use tap water the silver really does seem to stay in
'solution' (minimal TE) even though the uS is similarly around 400uS. I
wish i could get a scientific analysis of my tap water.

Jason said ...
I personally have no interest in silver compounds outside of EIS, but
if I were going to take mega doses of concentrated silver, it wouldn't
be unknown compounds with limited effectiveness made from tap water, it
would most certainly be silver citrate. 

Me..
I'm certainly not recommending using compounds. I was just responding to
the implication that 'Only CS is good and all other silver compounds are
bad' when theres very little evidence for the latter. (Unless one was to
consume to excess of course).

Heres a list of over 100 documents showing that silver compounds have
antimicrobial properties...
http://robholladay99.tripod.com/cs1index.htm

David


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Re: CSCancer being a virus thoughts and cancer

[Judy Knowlton]

There is quite a bit of objective evidence and study about attitude and things 
like cancer – lowered immune system?
That is, with some, stuffing anger, holding in feelings, not being emotionally 
open   etc 
I have had pets – from the ASPCA – who seem to have carried a past history with 
them into the present.
Judy Down Maine




From: Da Darrin 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 1:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus

There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die when 
new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of cells at a 
given location.

Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that. 

Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought.

Dave


On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Can you tell me why babies, dog, cat's, horses get cancer? A baby can't think 
negative can it?



  On Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:26 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:




  I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be caused from a virus - I 
could debate this fact by bringing the human emotions and lack of use of the 
mind control as factors into this debate If one is inclined to use or 
learn
  how to control the mind, then one is supposed to be able to avert anything 
that is of negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ?I leave 
you all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . . 
  Sandee
  Attitude is everything !!!
  Sandra George
  Colloidal Silver Products
  Eye Drops  Topical Gel
  aliveagai...@yahoo.com



  On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:32, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:

  FWIW a 24 flu is usually food poisoning. Can be something we did or something 
done to our food at a restaurant or friends place etc.  of course I know 
nothing about your specifics, but we all get blindsided occasionally by this 
sort of thing.


  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

  At Feb 21, 2015, 3:19:15 PM, Phil Morrison'philmorrison...@gmail.com' wrote:

  Super Bug is an overstatement, since most victims were
  already weakened with compromised immune systems mostly 
  due anti-biotics killing both good and bad bacteria in the gut. 

  OTOH there is a short list of silver resistant bacteria, and the
  Super Bug strain happens to be one of them. Whether this
  specific bug is silver resistant only time will tell. 

  We know the buzzards back at the Lizzard Lab are working
  overtime developing silver resistant bugs, so we have to
  foreshadow our futures accordingly.

  I've been on silver for many years and still get hit about every
  five years. Recently, a 24 hour bug hit and laid me low. CS 
  just wasn't up to dealing with this bug. Fortunately, the Sota
  Silver Pulser kicked in, along with plenty of minerals and water,
  to hold the bug to under 48 hours. I was lucky, because this
  bug hit like a freight train.

  I've peg a web site below which shows electron microscope photos of CS 
nanoparticles killing HIV viruses (Figure 3). 
  The researchers determined that it was bare silver attacking
  specific sites on the virus, which is good for our team. Viruses
  cause cancer. So, get em early. 


  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1190212/



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Re: CSCancer being a virus -- probiotics

[Judy Knowlton]

Probiotics are excellent and valuable – often necessary after taking an 
antibiotic and killing off our intestinal buglets.
People with some intestinal distress can often solve the problem with 
probiotics.  The older you are, the more helpful, I think. 
Judy Down Maine

From: ASL raVen 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 11:46 AM
To: Silver-List 
Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus


Does anyone know what's the difference between prebiotic and probiotic -- 
someone said to me that probiotic is not good? It's so tiring to see all these 
contradictions. Which should I be taking? 


I also need a reliable list of what exact benefits of Colloidal Silver does for 
people. Some friends want to know and I caught myself unable to recite as I 
wasn't exactly sure. I need to be more informed but want to make sure I'm 
getting from a truthful site. Thanks. 


RaVen 

Re: CSImportant question about the new SuperBug 2015 CRE

[Judy Knowlton]

Thank you – yes!

From: david moskovits 
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 2:17 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: CSImportant question about the new SuperBug 2015 CRE

CS may help his tumor also .




Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 13:57:24 -0500
From: mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSImportant question about the new SuperBug 2015 CRE

As far as I know, there is no superbug that is immune to CS since the hospitals 
don't ever use it (plus it is likely that immunity is impossible anyway.)

Marshall


On 2/20/2015 1:22 PM, Judy Knowlton wrote: 
  A friend must have throat-larynx surgery very soon for a tumor (operated upon 
5 years ago) the tumor has

  grown back. He is more concerned about the new Superbug that is killing 50% 
of those who get it, since the tests will be taken with tools that are likely 
to have CRE (His immune system is low as well.) He is a professional story 
teller, and losing his voice seems like  losing his life.

  Any information from you folks on facing CRE and surgery?

  Judy Down Maine 

CSImportant question about the new SuperBug 2015 CRE

[Judy Knowlton]

A friend must have throat-larynx surgery very soon for a tumor (operated
upon 5 years ago) the tumor has

grown back. He is more concerned about the new Superbug that is killing 50%
of those who get it, since the tests will be taken with tools that are
likely to have CRE (His immune system is low as well.) He is a professional
story teller, and losing his voice seems like  losing his life.

Any information from you folks on facing CRE and surgery?

Judy Down Maine 

Re: CSUnidentified subject! Judy Down Maine responds

[Judy Knowlton]

Oops!  I won't be 80 until October.  I haven't pitched in lately, but I 
trust this list implicitly. I also trust my Silver Puppy and make CS for 
several people.
It is a service for friends my age  and perhaps a dite (Maine slang) 
older. I charge $3 a pint.  Also provide darling cobalt blue glass dropper 
bottles for carrying in purse.

We are a  healthy bunch, here in cool -- well, frigid -- Maine!
Judy Down Mine


-Original Message- 
From: Ron

Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 1:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!

80 ya are. No not many but just for the record I am 86 1/2.

I don't see that anybody here really has their panties in a bunch.cool 
Maine.  Welll

Doesn't hurt to kick around ideas.

Ron

On 2/16/2015 10:22 AM, Reece Maxey wrote:

As
I recently posted on this forum, I am 80 years old. I doubt there are many 
participants
who can top that. I also said I was happy with the current format of the 
forum as many
others appear to be. Technology has allowed/caused us to become poor 
communicators.
We have gone from hand-written letters to the telephone, to the computer 
and email, the
cell phone and social media such as Facebook where the content is more 
about Me
than about You. The number of selfies we are privileged to see therein 
is endless.


Mike, I don't know how long you have maintained the Silver-list or how 
much assistance
you have. I have no idea what the associated cost is. But please accept my 
thanks. I

would suggest that those with serious heartburn go elsewhere.

My old 1st Sergeant in the army had a good saying, some people would 
bi...ch if you

hung them with a new rope.

(Hope not too far off topic)

Opa
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Re: CSNebulization - beginning slowly

[Judy Knowlton]

I begin with just a few breaths inhaling the cloud – not even my mouth around 
the mouthpiece. I stop when it becomes uncomfortable, then do the same thing 10 
minutes later. 
The discomfort may start a “productive” cough My experience is that my lungs 
are clear by the end of a few sessions an hour apart. I don’t usually wait 
until I am obviously sick – and probably nebulize 2 to 3 x per year  max.

From: Lena Guyot 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 1:57 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSNebulization

Hi PT, 
I do it for less than 5 min. Sometimes it makes me cough, which can either be 
good or bad, depending on whether it's dislodging debris or just triggering the 
lung's natural defenses against 'foreign' material. Again, with me, I listen to 
my instincts, and what my body tells me. Less is usually more. I also do things 
more frequently if that's comfortable, rather than too much by the clock. I 
learned this from my Lyme desease: to slowly ramp up on anything to tolerance, 
and be willing to go with the flow, as we're different from hour to hour.
Your body will tell you better and better, the more yu listen.
Be well,
Léna

On Jan 12, 2015, at 1:18 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:


  Hi Lena,
  I nebulized with CS when I was recently sick.  I couldn't do it more than 
maybe 5-10 minutes since the cold vapor in my lungs was uncomfortable.  How do 
you overcome this?
  Thanks. 

  PT




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  Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 12:30 PM
  Subject: Re: CSNebulization


  Hi Reece, 


  I keep a 50/50 mix of water and CS on my night-stand for whenever I awaken, 
thirsty. 
  Any cough or congestion, I use straight CS in my nebulizer to nip it in the 
bud. I don't suck it in, but gently inhale the fine cloud. I do it as needed, 
listening to what my body tells me.


  At the moment, the hot, dry house has made my poor little dog's nose stuffy. 
I just hold him and let the nebulized CS cloud drop gently past his snout and 
he's beginning to notice that it helps.
  Be well,
  Léna





  On Jan 12, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Reece Maxey wrote:


Needing some pointers from users on dosage and frequency of CS treatment
with aerosol compressor nebulizer to increase immunity to colds, flu etc. 
Anyone
doing this? Thanks
Reece

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Re: CSWhat Do You Think? --- Silver-Puppy? Whatthehell!

[Judy Knowlton]

Of course I wouldn’t have anything else!.  Have recommended, bought several as 
presents, used 2 of my own 
A Puppy is cute, simple, trust-worthy .. YES!
JudyDownMaine


From: Gmail 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 12:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSWhat Do You Think?

I have bought at least a dozen silver puppies thru the years for friends and 
family. No problems.

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On Jan 7, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:


  I've got one too, and, never having had any other sort of generator, can't 
say much about others, but OH! I do love my Silver-Puppy! 
  7 years, still going strong, after hundreds of gallons of CS for family and 
friends. It's great to be able to use CS lavishly, as a cleaning solution, 
surface-wipe, produce-rinse, body rinse, eye-drops, nasal mist, liquid base for 
other mixes, internal protection against germ-exposure. Such a simple 
thing...that works! 
  Be well,
  Léna

  On Jan 7, 2015, at 9:13 AM, PT Ferrance wrote:


I wouldn't own anything other than a SilverPuppy.  I have 2 of them and 
they work great... plug and play (plug them in and you go play)!
PT





From: Floyd Petri fpe...@eastex.net
To: Colloidal Silver Forum silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 2:24 AM
Subject: CSWhat Do You Think?


I am interested in getting me a real colloidal silver generator. I am 
looking at a “Silver 9” Microprocessor Controlled Programmable CS Generator for 
$160 on line. Have any of you any experience with this particular generator? Do 
you recommend it or what? Any pros and cons would be appreciated before I spend 
the money. Thanks.

Floyd





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Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

[Judy Knowlton]

Thank you, Victor – no, it is a tooth infection that has flared after stopping 
CS too soon.
JDM

From: Victor Cozzetto 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:08 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

Resistance is not possible. No pathogen can survive in the presence of CS. Of 
course there are many variables that affect that statement, such as CS quality, 
quantity, the ability to reach the pathogen, etc. 

Also, make sure that you are not mistaking disease symptoms with toxin 
symptoms. I just had this situation in my own household, where my wife had flu 
like symptoms. The house was being painted and repaired for a month, and she 
was sick through all of it - but only on the weekends - when she was in the 
house. She first suspected something was wrong with our CS, but I was pretty 
certain it was the chemicals, and now we know. Detox was what was needed.

There are many things that can make us ill. Pathogens, toxins, poor diet, etc.

Victor




On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com 
wrote:

  Are we producing one-cell “buglets” (virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus) that are 
highly resistant to CS?
  I had understood from this List that CS works differently and resistance is 
not possible.
  My son is having an experience that might say otherwise.
  Please, you research Mavens, clarify!
  Judy Down Maine

Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS - ONE GENERATION

[Judy Knowlton]

Hi, Ode.
One generation?  Like a maximum of a couple of weeks?  
JDM

From: Ode Coyote 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:21 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

In nature there are bugs that become resistant to silver in the soil, but that 
resistance [ tolerance? ] disappears in one generation after being removed from 
the presence of silver.

Ode


On 1/5/2015 7:56 AM, Judy Knowlton wrote:

  Are we producing one-cell “buglets” (virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus) that are 
highly resistant to CS?
  I had understood from this List that CS works differently and resistance is 
not possible.
  My son is having an experience that might say otherwise.
  Please, you research Mavens, clarify!
  Judy Down Maine





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CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

[Judy Knowlton]

Are we producing one-cell “buglets” (virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus) that are 
highly resistant to CS?
I had understood from this List that CS works differently and resistance is not 
possible.
My son is having an experience that might say otherwise.
Please, you research Mavens, clarify!
Judy Down Maine

Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS - ONE GENERATION

[Judy Knowlton]

I am thinking a “generation” would be very short indeed. Hours perhaps.
JDM

From: Ode Coyote 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 12:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS - ONE GENERATION

Or a lot less

ode 



On 1/5/2015 8:33 AM, Judy Knowlton wrote:

  Hi, Ode.
  One generation?  Like a maximum of a couple of weeks?  
  JDM

  From: Ode Coyote 
  Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:21 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Subject: Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

  In nature there are bugs that become resistant to silver in the soil, but 
that resistance [ tolerance? ] disappears in one generation after being removed 
from the presence of silver.

  Ode


  On 1/5/2015 7:56 AM, Judy Knowlton wrote:

Are we producing one-cell “buglets” (virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus) that 
are highly resistant to CS?
I had understood from this List that CS works differently and resistance is 
not possible.
My son is having an experience that might say otherwise.
Please, you research Mavens, clarify!
Judy Down Maine




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CSViral resistance to CS??? I've been watching Sanjay Gupta's

[Judy Knowlton]

program on CNN – hunting for a new antibiotic because of the increasing 
resistance of viruses to the present antibiotics.

Have I been mistaken in believing “buglets” are unable to build up a resistance 
to CS? It has been a matter of “faith” with me, I think!

Judy Down Maine

Re: CSDoes anything work at all for this problem? SINUS

[Judy Knowlton]

I used CS nosedrops (10 pp) every 10 minutes for an hour – lying down and 
simply snuffling a little to let them “travel”
followed by drops every hour or two when awake .. plus internal CS for a week, 
6 x a day ( quarter cup each time)
After a week, this totally solved the problem for me and also 2 friends with 
serious, constant sinus.
The answer seems to be in closely timed consistancy for a while.
JudyDownMaine

little and
From: glendajma...@aol.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:38 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: CSDoes anything work at all for this problem?




I keep on getting a sinus problem every 2 weeks. What prevents it? daily intake 
of of cs? anything else anyone can recommend?

   G

Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2014 #98 JDM adds her 2 cents

[Judy Knowlton]

Dear Colin -- I have not kept up with this CS discussion, so pardon any 
misunderstanding I may have..
I'd like to add my encouragement for personal choice (along with a good 
meditative practice if you will.)
Please check out what alternatives you can. They will be comfortable and add 
personal purpose and a healthy, positive attitude, I believe.

I know you are hearing from many on this list about good alternatives.

In 1984 my husband, then age 72, refused all treatment for liver cancer, 
supposed to be very painful. The doctor told him then that eating absolutely 
no animal products would avoid pain. It was true. The doctor said it was 
researched around 1936 but wasn't mentioned anymore after chemo became a 
major money-maker.
He was also told to eat a macrobiotic diet. I too learned a whole new way of 
eating--and thinking!
He was 24 years older than I. Now I'm 78, and see my world very differently. 
I seem to be surprisingly healthy compared to some of my friends, make them 
CS at times, and keep learning about more good alternatives.  Is it too 
trite or flippant  to say quality of life is more important than quantity?

Judy Down Maine






-Original Message- 
From: Colin Smith

Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:59 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2014 #98



From Colin Perth ref Cancer Treatment..


Sincere Thank you for the encouraging replies... its all a bit
overwhelming at the moment which I guess is not surprising.

I suppose the first and fundamental question I have to answer is do I
refuse/delay the suggested Traditional treatments (X-ray plus big
take everything out operation) while I investigate/ try alternatives?
Is this a responsible thing to do? I know we are all responsible for
ourselves but it is never that simple is it? I have 2 boys aged 4 and 11
and I really want to see grow into the wonderful young men. (Proud to
report I got my Senior's Card Age 60, and a baby bonus for Robin in the
same year!)

As I have no real symptoms it is hard to monitor results without MRI
scans etc... It seems to be a slow growing thing, it is 4 years since my
initial treatment and presumely the cancer cells were left behind there
after my operation and so has taken quite a lot of time to reach a
detectable size.

Does anyone have any practical advise how I should proceed from here...
due for discussions with Doctors next week when I intend asking many
questions.

I am seriously considering visiting Chris Teo in Penang for his advise
and his herbal medicines, has anyone any experience of this?
http://www.cacare.com/?subscribe=success#blog_subscription-3

How can I put this, on one hand I have powerful pressure from Medical
Doctors, family and friends to follow their methods and then I have a
tremdous amount of information about alternative ways of treating my
problem... it is very hard to know what course I should follow. I am
reading everything I can about it but it does get confusing...

A thought, one important factor for people following medical advise and
procedures, whatever their doubts and fears might be, must be that at a
time of stress and worry it is far easier to surrender oneself to a well
trained, capable medical system than try to find ones own way.

I probably am not putting this very well, I am not being told that I
have no medical treatment options but I dont like what they are
proposing one little bit. It all seems unreal anyway as I feel well not
sick!

All comments welcome.

Finally a real silver-list question ... Is my taking C/S doing me any
good ?

Colin confused in Perth

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Re: CSI vote for email list

[Judy Knowlton]

I’m old-fashioned.  Like the email also.
Am not always active on the listbut interested!
JudyDownMaine

From: Alan Faulkner 
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 5:59 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSI vote for email list

Just kidding 




On 2014-02-21, at 14:55 PM, Dianne France wrote:


I prefer email but will go with whatever works for you Mike.
 



Subject: Re: CSI vote for email list
From: ala...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:22:19 -0800
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

We want to change the world. ; ) 


On 2014-02-21, at 10:52 AM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

Did I miss something? Is there a change being voted on?
Thanks Debbie
 

On Friday, February 21, 2014 1:40 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Hi Mike,
I prefer the list.  Forums sometimes to have time for.
Thanks. PT









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CS: I'd like some of your knowledge, please -- HPV

[Judy Knowlton]

Hi, everyone I've been very low-key lately with the Silver List but active 
in making it and helping some friends.
However, a 55 year old male friend is pretty certain he has HPV (human 
papillomavirus)  throat cancer, and goes for first medical appointments this 
coming week.

His history and symptoms certainly indicate the probability.

I told him I. would contact your good minds immediately.  Please help if you 
can... this is a good person with a long history of
thoughtful living and positive concern for other people, and I'm very fond 
of him. A third son, so to speak


Wishing you all a serene holiday season with less ice than we have here in 
Maine

and a joyful New Year.
Judy Down Maine

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[Judy Knowlton]

Yes, on both -- MRSA just being a staph on
steroids.
I have helped a woman cure herself of MRSA after
doc was helpless.
Took less than 2 days!
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It sure can! It also can lick MRSA which is
another one most MDs haven't a clue about.



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Thanks everyone who reminded me of the specific
site: Quail Wood Herbal was the one I was talking
about.

The other person who mentioned of selling his
C.S. - I appreciate this information too!



I'm curious - does anyone know if C.S. can destroy
staph infection? I met a lady who has it but
doctors are clueless in how to help her rid it.



Kindly,
RaVen











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Natural Disasters. We can't fit Global Warming
into that category. We have only us to blame
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On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:49 PM, phoenix23002
tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net wrote:

RaVen
He makes some wonderful CS...

It is..   www.quailwoodherbal.com  phone
928-308-9104

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Lena Guyot
drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

Quailwoodherbal.com?

On Sep 16, 2013, at 11:59 AM, ASL wrote:





Can someone kindly give me the name of the website
of someone selling bottles of Colloidal Silver - I
think it was called something like Quail -

Thanks!



RaVen











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With so much evidence of depleting natural
resources, toxic waste, climate change,
irreparable harm to our food chain and rapidly
increasing instances of natural disasters, why do
we keep perpetuating the problem? Why do we
continue marching at the same alarming beat?
~Yehuda Berg



On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Nenah Sylver
nenahsyl...@cox.net wrote:

A quick and informative read.

http://www.anh-usa.org/fda-declares-silver-has-no-
therapeutic-value/

RE: CSRabbits and CS

[Judy Knowlton]

Is a rabbit a virus? No?  Then it will be fine for
them -- but only when they NEED it!
Judy Down Maine

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   be DONE BY
~


-Original Message-
From: Sam L. [mailto:one...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 6:37 PM
To: silver-list
Subject: CSRabbits and CS


I have 2 small bunny's, is CS good for them??  I
have heard of the pros and cons. Some say it will
kill a rabbit, Just trying to keep my rabbits
healthy.

Has anyone given their rabbits CS with good
success??


tia


Sam


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RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES...update RE Nebulizer theory

[Judy Knowlton]

It is my strong belief (theory?) - backed up with
personal experience - that EIS is a mild biocide,
unlike Big Pharma's toxic concoctions.
I mean by that, EIS kills quickly, but doesn't
slam the body with unbalancing side-effects. It is
also rapidly removed from the body because of it's
very small size.
Therefore, when I use a nebulizer, I use one
longer time period first thing, then several
shorter dose/times throughout the day - maybe 4 to
6 at evenly timed intervals.
It has worked well for me. Limited to once or
twice a day just gives a roller coast of returning
disease if all the buglets aren't killed the first
round (which is unlikely,)
JudyDownMaine

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   be DONE BY
~


-Original Message-
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:29 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES...update


That's actually what she's saying, but that fluid
cough returned on day 12 so got her to nebulise
approx 10ml EIS this morning, day 15 Thursday.


N.



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From: drumr...@stny.rr.com
Subject: Re: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES...update
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 10:35:33 -0400
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

PHN feels like deeper tissue spasm: not so much a
surface feeling. L

On Aug 27, 2013, at 6:00 AM, Neville Munn wrote:


  Still a little pain in one area apparently,
maybe that's slight PHN?



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RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES...update

[Judy Knowlton]

Might go under the general label of :stress? --
which I've read is likely to a trigger shingles
attack.

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-Original Message-
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 8:46 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES...update


H...I gotta be a bit careful here g, without
going into detail there has been some ongoing
issues and a few breakdowns over many years so
other than that I really haven't a clue?  I
believe the aforesaid history would discount
allergies of any kind.


N.


 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 06:55:23 -0400
 Subject: Re: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES...update
 From: whiteol...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 Hi Nevile..what caused this problem in the first
place.
 Is it allergys?
 T

 On 8/24/13, Neville Munn
one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Trying to find somewhere adequate to put an
update so I picked this post,
  excuse me Melly g.
  Day 10...Vast improvement in general well
being, pain level waaay down
  and only at one small patch on the back STILL.
Pain level has been
  decreasing over past two days I think but it's
hard for a person to define
  when that person is suffering. Personally, I
believe that patch is being
  dealt with from the inside as no blisters have
broken the skin, there were
  only a few but they seem to be disappearing
from within, similar to the lads
  a while back. I'm going to be presumptuous and
say things are definitely on
  the up and up and recovery is under way. Cough
doesn't appear to be as bad
  today either, still there, but nowhere near as
bad.
  Still spraying areas and the clothing over
those areas, still 200ml EIS
  morning and night, still only on Nurofen Plus
for pain up 'til last night,
  we'll see what today and tonight brings.
  Hopefully my 48 hour hunch may prove to be
pretty much spot on in the scheme
  of things in second guessing EIS efficacy time
line. Why did I ever bloody
  doubt it? Lapse in intelligent thinking!
Perhaps that's what happens when
  one is concerned for another?
  My last post will probly be when recovery is
absolutely, unquestionably and
  undeniably well under way and she's positively
and most assuredly on the
  comeback trail.
  Gotta say, at this point in time I'm getting
quietly excited to see what the
  next few days bring g.
  Thanks for just being there and allowing me to
ramble on people one thumb
  up.
  N.
 
  From: tita_...@yahoo.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:31:02 -0500
  Subject: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Neville,
 
 
 
  I take no offense if you want to prove CS will
work on
  shingles. However, if you see those blisters
coming around the other side
  of
  the body go take her to Emergency Room…that
can be fatal.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT 1 AM #2

[Judy Knowlton]

To fill in my story  a bit -- it now being 6:20
AM and our tiny town (1600 pop. -- more in summah)
church has magnificent breakfasts every Saturday.
This is the next to last for the season, and I
meet friends at 7 AM. I'm a recovering alcoholic
(43 years active in AA) was a counselor in NJ and
PA for 21 years, now retired, widow, and in Maine.
I am VERY anti-Big Pharma drugs because I wish to
protect my sobriety and most are mood-changers
for me, and therefore could trigger stinkin'
thinkin' that leads to drinkin'   I don't
believe -- yes, Neville, it is belief because
I've not had Shingles myself -- that early catch
means early cure.  I see no reason to be in
horrible pain.
I must also assume that a little CS regularly
would wipe out any emerging Shingles virus. I do a
quarter cup on Sunday mornings.
Should I be using the term EIS?
With friends, I write and say C-Silver because
then I don't need to keep explaining to those who
aren't in-the-Know. I have a darling round sticker
for the top of my bottles with a picture of an
ocean wave and only the words C-Silver and my
phone number. Any sales are at $3 a pint. I'm
only in for help and health.
JudyDownMaine

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is a quote from my biography
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Written by me, Judy K.
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 2:14 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT
1 AM



That's a great story Judy.


Wow, you don't know how glad I am to hear someone
else holds a similar philosophy to mine regarding
flooding it both topically and internally, or as
I say hard and fast, it helps one to not lose
faith in what they believe, a little morale
booster doesn't hurt now and again g.


Thanks for that, you enjoy a good nights sleep and
I'll have a good day g.


N.



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From: judydownma...@roadrunner.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT
1 AM
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 01:46:10 -0400


I have noticed all the Shingles emails
This letter was triggered by the first lines of
Neville's letter below
Shingles may have a natural course it must take,
and nothing really assists in the recovery.
I cannot believe this is so.  Shingles is a virus,
yes? CS works, yes? I would flood and drown it!
(so to speak) both topically and internally.
Have done so with MRSA for friends also.
Well, now I think I can sleep (grin)
JudyDownMaine

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-Original Message-
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES



Well I guess if a bloke's going to test something
there's no point in doing so without including
opinions.

RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT 1 AM #2

[Judy Knowlton]

Neville -- are you the member in Australia? I've
forgotten
EIS -- for Electrolic(sic?) Ionic Silver?   Or
...?

My best wishes to your wife. I was in our local
pharmacy recently sitting on a lovely leather
chair -- it being civilized, low-key Maine--
waiting to talk to the pharmacist about some
supplements, while 2 women spent $200 plus each
for the vaccine.  They were unwittingly reminding
me to make some more EIS for my little stock. I
had chicken pox at age 9. Only 7 pops were ever
found on my body, although my 5 year old brother
was COVERED. One never forgets! The question is,
what does the severity of my disease mean re
Shingles? (My brother is no longer living so the
complete evidence is unavailable 

May I add another thought? Again, my apologies to
EVERYone for not keeping up with the details in
these emails!

I have always suggested 4 to 6 equal doses a day
spaced about equal hours apart during waking hours
on an empty stomach' Last one just before sleep.
Perhaps one in middle of night if the person
commonly gets up to pee or something -- as lil ole
ladies seem to!
Our (my son's and mine) theory has been that the
body removes EIS rather quickly through the
kidneys, so to maintain a level, less per dose
and more often is better -- not a roller-coaster.
(I have no evidence of the truth of that
statement!!!)
JDM

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-Original Message-
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:34 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT
1 AM #2


I don't know what to say, other than to say *Thank
You* for putting a human touch to such a cold and
impersonal communication medium.


I'll take the liberty of giving a brief update
report in this reply.


I have to say things are looking pretty good to
date, 9 days since *something* became evident, 6
days since my diagnosis on visual observation and
5 days since doctors confirmation.  Since speaking
with you earlier I have upped the dose again to
250ml twice a day whilst spraying on affected
areas, and clothing over those areas.  It would
seem we are getting on top of it, another 48 hours
hopefully will result in recovery becoming more
obvious or apparent, pain appears to be lessening,
still one small area on the back which seems to be
still trying to break out, area on the stomach is
dry and covered in scabs.  Stomach scab area is
getting rather itchy which means things are
healing.  A terrible fluid cough has suddenly
developed which is aggravating the whole thing
{not sure if that's Herx?} although she is feeling
decidedly better in herself.  If it IS Herx, I
expect it to disappear as suddenly as it came, a
few days perhaps.


There is no other place one can discuss such
matters or get support other than among you folk
as everyone around us here thinks this is pure
unadulterated quackery and I am the village idiot,
hence I am a rather solitary animal among my peers
here with my beliefs, so I hope I am not taking
liberties or stepping out of line by continuing
these reports on this List.  I figure how else
will anyone know with any degree of certainty if
my EIS protocol actually worked or reduced time
frame to recovery?  Anyhow, this will end and be
overwith soon enough and I will thus return to the
rock I am usually under g.


Thank You one and all.



I believe the 'EIS' term was created by people on
this List to specifically separate and detach our
product from the more commercialised 'CS'
products - there IS a difference, and that makes
ALL the difference to me.


N.



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From: judydownma...@roadrunner.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT
1 AM #2
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 06:38:32 -0400




Should I be using the term EIS?
With friends, I write and say C-Silver because
then I don't need to keep explaining to those who
aren't in-the-Know. I have a darling round sticker
for the top of my bottles with a picture of an
ocean wave and only the words C-Silver and my
phone number. Any sales are at $3 a pint. I'm
only in for help and health.
JudyDownMaine

RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT 1 AM WHAT DOES CS -- that is EIS do???? My answer here Correct me if Im wrong

[Judy Knowlton]

EIS is called a BIOCIDE because it kills living
one cell organisms
Virus, bacteria, fungus and yeast --
hence it's great for MANY things that ail you.
Siblings who lived in an old row-house in Jersey
City grew up with asthma
ONE nebulizer Tx with my EIS and there was
noticeable improvement.
Years of battling mold?  My logical suspicion!!!
They bought Silver puppies immediately.
JDM


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-Original Message-
From: Gail Naranjo [mailto:wanda85...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 11:46 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT
1 AM


For some reason (don't know where I've been all
these years) I thought CS worked for bacterial
infection and didn't realize it also works for
viruses. lol  I've been using CS for a good 10
years or more.  I thought it was more like and
antibiotic.   I have to laugh at myself.

Live and learn! chuckle

Gail


From: Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT
1 AM


 Shingles is a virus, yes? CS works, yes?

RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT 1 AM

[Judy Knowlton]

I have noticed all the Shingles emails, but time
constraints have kept me from keeping up with
careful reading. Since it seems I can't sleep
tonight, and read Neville's letter below, I must
put my 2 cents in. I am 77, have made my own CS
( about 10 ppm) for 14 years, the last several
with a Silver Puppy (bless you, Ode.) For years
I've gone on the assumption that, once taking the
possibility of Herx into account, a real slam of
CS may be warranted. For example, my son (age 45
then) was staying with me.  He had learned first
about CS and made his own machine for us. He has
leg edema (which keeps the legs from having decent
circulation) and was accidentally scratched by my
cat.  The infection was rapid and ugly, by 10 PM
the lower leg swelling considerably and changing
to a rageful red almost to the knee. He was
somewhat incoherent.) He had had a similar event
at his home some years before, and then found
himself in hospital for 6 days with IV
antibiotics.
He decided to test the power of CS or go to
hospital in the AM. We were new to CS but
understood Herxheimer effects. (Try stopping a
grown son from ) Anyway, he took 2 quarts to
bed with him over my protests.
At 6 AM I could smell coffee perking. Went  to the
kitchen to find my son in bermuda shorts, so I
could check his condition at a glance. The leg
color had reduced to annoyed pink. It was normal
by late afternoon.  By then he had drunk 2 quarts
of CS.
We have since helped cure several things for
friends with a slow increasing dosage over 2 to 3
days to avoid Herx, followed by similar large
amounts (only in emergency)
This letter was triggered by the first lines of
Neville's letter below
Shingles may have a natural course it must take,
and nothing really assists in the recovery.
I cannot believe this is so.  Shingles is a virus,
yes? CS works, yes? I would flood and drown it!
(so to speak) both topically and internally.
Have done so with MRSA for friends also.
Well, now I think I can sleep (grin)
JudyDownMaine

___
JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
is a quote from my biography
Patched, A Spiritual Memoir
Written by me, Judy K.
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES



Well I guess if a bloke's going to test something
there's no point in doing so without including
opinions.


I am forming the opinion that although this case
is improving, Shingles may have a natural course
it must take, and nothing really assists in the
recovery.


I'm beginning to form an opinion that EIS does not
necessarily speed recovery, nor reduce severity,
nor assist in any way other than by spraying it on
may assist in the healing of the sores and prevent
possible infection from clothing materials, and of
course not forgetting assisting in skin tissue
repair.


This is why I questioned the 'severity' definition
in trying to determine efficacy and recovery in
any given protocol applied to any given case of
Shingles i.e. Mild, Moderate, Bad or Severe etc?
I knocked it out in our lad in a week, this case
appears to be lessening at this point in
time...BUT, how long does one usually have
Shingles?  Perhaps a time line, or defining each
case in determining severity level which is an
indicator of recovery time line, i.e. a week, two
weeks, a month, or maybe longer dependant on
severity level?


I bumped up the intake to 200 odd ml twice a day
as well as spraying on areas.  And here's where
that bloody blue media propaganda raises its ugly
stupid head and lingers in the back of the mind,
and that really p*sses me off.  Similar to that
Jaws movie, just can't erase it from the mind, a
weakness in character and lowering of
intelligence.  I try things using myself as a
guinea pig but tend to allow doubts to creep in
with someone else, I don't particularly care about
myself because *someone* has to do it, but I do
care about others.


One *MUST* stand firm in the knowledge that the
media, the establishment, the FDA, our TGA, past
cases of smurfism etc etc are *NOT* and do *NOT*
reference the substance we produce and use, it's
chalk and cheese, apples and oranges, HVAC vs
LVDC, high particle content vs high Ag+ ion
content.


I've been ingesting around 30ml every day for nigh
on 10 years and I haven't yet changed to any shade
of blue, and trust me, we get plenty of sun here
as I'm sure they do most anywhere else on this
planet, so if I was going to 'self develop' I
would imagine I would have done so long before
this.


It's really difficult when we are brainwashed and
conditioned throughout our lives to conform or
believe what published material, or these so
called 'authorities?' try to force us to believe,
and it bugs me that I find myself STILL getting
sucked into that BS hole as well.  I have to
constantly remind myself of that Bob Newhart
Youtube skit - - - STOP IT!  Hence the only answer
is to 

RE: CSLDN

[Judy Knowlton]

I haven't kept up with this whole discussion, but
the ongoing question I always ask myself is,
what is the CAUSE.  Yes, I'll feel better for
awhile if the inflammation is down, and that's
important.
but what is TRIGGERING the reaction is more
important to me.
Judy Down Maine

___
JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
is a quote from my biography
Patched, A Spiritual Memoir
Written by me, Judy K.
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:24 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSLDN


OK, I am finally considering low dose naltrexone
for the systemic inflammation.  I know a number of
my fellow and gal list members are on this regimen
so can we open a discussion?  Is it something I
will need to do for the rest of my life or is it
withdrawn after a period of time? Where is the
best place to obtain it at a reasonable price?
Are there any side effects?
Thanks for any help you can give.
PT

RE: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children

[Judy Knowlton]

It is indeed food for thought. I was taught NOT to
take an aspirin to reduce fever, for example,
because the bug would live longer.
I am 77 and surprisingly healthy -- and refuse to
take Rx meds. (Supplements, yes)
JudyDownMaine

___
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is a quote from my biography
Patched, A Spiritual Memoir
Written by me, Judy K.
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:22 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500%
more diseases than unvaccinated children


I was taught that the immune system is an organ
that needs to be exercised in order to grow
strong.  Vaccinations short circuit the immune
system and we lose the protection it offers.
There are people who argue that the AIDs plague to
the generation it did because they were the first
generation to be vaccinated.
Food for thought.
PT






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From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500%
more diseases than unvaccinated children



Did you not read the article


In 1992, a New Zealand group called the
Immunization Awareness Society (IAS) surveyed 245
families with a total of 495 children. The
children were divided with 226 vaccinated and 269
unvaccinated. Eighty-one families had both
vaccinated and unvaccinated children.
The differences were dramatic, with unvaccinated
children showing far less incidence of common
childhood ailments than vaccinated children
(http://www.vaccineinjury.info/images/stories/ias1
992study.pdf).



From a different survey in the South Island New
Zealand city of Christchurch, among children born
during or after 1977, none of the unvaccinated
children had asthma events where nearly 25% of the
vaccinated children were treated for asthma by age
10
(http://www.vaccineinjury.info/images/stories/ias1
992study.pdf).


A PhD immunologist who wrote the book Vaccine
Illusion, Dr. Tetyana Obukhanych, has gone against
the dogma of her medical training and background.
She asserts that true immunity to any disease is
not conferred by vaccines. Exposure to the
disease, whether contracted or not, does
(http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/06/13/inte
rview-with-phd-immunologist-dr-tetyana-obukhanych-
by-catherine-frompovich/?utm_source=feedburnerutm
_medium=emailutm_campaign=Feed%3A+vaccinationcoun
cil+%28International+Medical+Council+on+Vaccinatio
n%29).
Perhaps the most informal grass-roots survey going
on now is by Tim O'Shea, DC, author of Vaccination
is Not Immunization. He simply has non-vaccinating
parents email him with comparisons of their
children's health to friends and families they
know with vaccinated children. That and more is
available on his site
(http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/unvaccinated/paren
ts-of-unvaccinated-children/).

Marshall



On 8/13/2013 12:13 AM, Steve G wrote:
  I don't think that any study conducted by a
homoeopathist would be very credible considering
that these are people who believe that homeopathy
is a real medical treatment.


  Are there any real studies that lead us to such
findings?


  Steve


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  Vaccinated children are get 500% more diseases
than unvaccinated children:

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RE: CSarthritus -- avoid foods

[Judy Knowlton]

Don't forget to avoid the nightshades.
Potato, tomato, eggplant, green pepper, paprika
 and cheddar cheese!
Judy Down Maine

___
JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
is a quote from my biography
Patched, A Spiritual Memoir
Written by me, Judy K.
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:24 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSarthritus


I recently discovered a book called The Virgin
Diet.  Don't worry, it's not what you think, the
author's name is JJ Virgin.


The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but
also addresses food allergies/sensitivities.


The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely
candidates:  gluten, corn, soy, dairy, eggs,
peanuts and sugar.  (I actually haven't read the
entire book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I
think fruit is still OK and small amounts in
things like ketchup are still OK.)


After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge
weeks which re-introduce one of these foods at a
time, if you want to, that is.



I've been trying this for a week so it's still
early, but have had no arthritis pain (or any
other pain; I often get random abdominal pains)
since I started.  My arthritis was not severe, it
only occasionally gave me minor pain, but my Dad
had it pretty bad and I want to address it before
it gets bad.


You absolutely cannot cheat during this 3 weeks or
it's all a waste of time.  For some reason knowing
this has made it easy for me so far, I've not even
had the slightest urge to cheat.


-Alan




On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Gary Hilt
sobertogod1n...@gmail.com wrote:

  Its me again. i have been active everyday lost
48 pounds. i have tried, borage oil ViteE,
potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i
stillhave this annoying achesin hips and
shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin
australian dream cream.
  Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im
looking for any antiinflammatory.
  i also use cayenne internally.
  Thanks a lot!


  --

  Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God
our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
  Gary  Lennie



--
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by
the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the
States, are reserved to the States respectively,
or to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US
Constitution)

RE: CSarthritus -- avoid foods

[Judy Knowlton]

Some foods are toxic to some people, other foods to other people.
There's a lot of talk now about wheat ... I still think milk products
can be a real problem to some.

The idea is  don't eat even a DROP of whatever for 2 weeks and ask
yourself how you feel.
Simple, cheap, personal experience counts!
JDM

___
JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
is a quote from my biography
Patched, A Spiritual Memoir
Written by me, Judy K.
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:49 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSarthritus -- avoid foods


Judy Knowlton wrote:
 Don't forget to avoid the nightshades.
 Potato, tomato, eggplant, green pepper, paprika  and cheddar
cheese!
 Judy Down Maine

Why cheddar cheese?
sol


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RE: CSarthritus -- avoid foods

[Judy Knowlton]

Yes, it's often a food we eat A LOT OF!
I found I can eat almost anything every 4th or 5th
day, but not daily
JDM

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is a quote from my biography
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Written by me, Judy K.
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: Gary Hilt [mailto:sobertogod1n...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSarthritus -- avoid foods


Ahhh i do like potatoes and tomatoes bummer. Will
give it a go
Thx



On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Judy Knowlton
judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:

  Don't forget to avoid the nightshades.
  Potato, tomato, eggplant, green pepper, paprika
 and cheddar cheese!
  Judy Down Maine

  ___
  JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
  is a quote from my biography
  Patched, A Spiritual Memoir
  Written by me, Judy K.
  Happily available on Amazon.

  -Original Message-
  From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:24 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSarthritus


  I recently discovered a book called The Virgin
Diet.  Don't worry, it's not what you think, the
author's name is JJ Virgin.


  The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but
also addresses food allergies/sensitivities.


  The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely
candidates:  gluten, corn, soy, dairy, eggs,
peanuts and sugar.  (I actually haven't read the
entire book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I
think fruit is still OK and small amounts in
things like ketchup are still OK.)


  After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge
weeks which re-introduce one of these foods at a
time, if you want to, that is.



  I've been trying this for a week so it's still
early, but have had no arthritis pain (or any
other pain; I often get random abdominal pains)
since I started.  My arthritis was not severe, it
only occasionally gave me minor pain, but my Dad
had it pretty bad and I want to address it before
it gets bad.


  You absolutely cannot cheat during this 3 weeks
or it's all a waste of time.  For some reason
knowing this has made it easy for me so far, I've
not even had the slightest urge to cheat.


  -Alan




  On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Gary Hilt
sobertogod1n...@gmail.com wrote:

Its me again. i have been active everyday lost
48 pounds. i have tried, borage oil ViteE,
potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i
stillhave this annoying achesin hips and
shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin
australian dream cream.
Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im
looking for any antiinflammatory.
i also use cayenne internally.
Thanks a lot!


--

Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God
our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Gary  Lennie



  --
  Alan Jones

  The powers not delegated to the United States
by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the
States, are reserved to the States respectively,
or to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US
Constitution)





--

Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our
Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Gary  Lennie

RE: CSArthritus

[Judy Knowlton]

Is this where I say ...Don't forget to avoid
eating nightshades!
That is, potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant, green
pepper, paprika
and cheddar cheese.
This has made an ENORMOUS difference to me,
Judy Down Maine


___
JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
is a quote from my biography
Patched, A Spiritual Memoir
Written by me, Judy K.
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: Gary Hilt [mailto:sobertogod1n...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:28 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSArthritus


Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc.
and both hips. i try to walk with the aid of a
rolling walker and i ride a bike.
im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i
have used DMSO little help. i also use Capsaison
capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic pain
and soreness. im 65
Thank You
gary




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Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Gary  Lennie

RE: CSswollen eye

[Judy Knowlton]

It sounds like it might well be a bug bite.
Although CS won't work on any bite toxin, taking
CS internally would deal with a secondary
infection.
I myself would do 1/8 cup 4 times today on an
empty stomach (1 hour without eating)
JudyDownMaine


___
JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
is a quote from my biography
Patched, A Spiritual Memoir
Written by me, Judy K.
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: ejohns9...@aol.com
[mailto:ejohns9...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 7:24 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSswollen eye


Yesterday my husband woke up with a red swollen
eye lid.  We washed the eye out and have been
spraying it with CS.  Anyone had any results with
things of this nature?  It seems much worse this
morning.

Thanks,
Edith

RE: CSswollen eye

[Judy Knowlton]

Nothing wrong -- I received it.
Judy K

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is a quote from my biography
Patched, A Spiritual Memoir
Written by me, Judy K.
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: juga...@aol.com [mailto:juga...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 2:54 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSswollen eye


I am trying to send a message to this list  it
does not go through .. what am I doing wrong?
Thank you  ... Judy

In a message dated 7/24/2013 5:42:32 A.M. Mountain
Daylight Time, judydownma...@roadrunner.com
writes:
  It sounds like it might well be a bug bite.
  Although CS won't work on any bite toxin, taking
CS internally would deal with a secondary
infection.
  I myself would do 1/8 cup 4 times today on an
empty stomach (1 hour without eating)
  JudyDownMaine


  ___
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  is a quote from my biography
  Patched, A Spiritual Memoir
  Written by me, Judy K.
  Happily available on Amazon.

  -Original Message-
  From: ejohns9...@aol.com
[mailto:ejohns9...@aol.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 7:24 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSswollen eye


  Yesterday my husband woke up with a red swollen
eye lid.  We washed the eye out and have been
spraying it with CS.  Anyone had any results with
things of this nature?  It seems much worse this
morning.

  Thanks,
  Edith

RE: CSRe: CSCS Generator

[Judy Knowlton]

I too have a Silver Puppy.  Very happy with it. Always makes satisfactory 
silver.
Judy Down Maine
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is a quote from my biography
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Written by me, Judy K.
Happily available on Amazon.  
-Original Message-
 
 From: Chev. John J. Wrobel [mailto:jwrobel0...@oh.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRe: CSCS Generator


You can build your own for a lot less or go with the Silver Puppy, thats what I 
use. I actually purchased both the Silver Edge and the Silver Gen. After a lot 
of research and speaking with Ode Coyote I learned a silver ion is an ion, the 
micro claim is a lot of hooey. A silver ion .001-.005 can be produced with a 
home built unit or the Silver Puppy which gets the job done. And agitating the 
water by introducing air is not a good idea. 
John 

Sent from my Virgin Mobile Android-Powered Device

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From: Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS Generator
Date: Wed, Jul 17, 2013 5:13 pm


I'm thinking of buying this Micro-Particle Colloidal Silver Generator from
here http://thesilveredge.com/aboutmicro.shtml
Does anybody has experience with this machine?

Regards
Gidon 




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RE: CShello! Migraines and food alergies.

[Judy Knowlton]

Migraines can be food-allergy related.  Quite
common.
The problem is,  you may eat it for dinner, and
the effects may not show up til the next morning.
There may be a lag with food.  Therefore, you need
to write down every single item that goes into
your mouth
 for several weeks.  Often the pattern becomes
obvious.
JudyDownMaine


-Original Message-
From: melissa adams [mailto:missy.ad...@live.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:00 PM
To: CS
Subject: RE: CShello!


Thank you for the suggestion! I see they are
available on Amazon. Any idea how an antacid helps
a migraine? Seems odd to me.


Missy :)



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From: one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CShello!
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 03:09:00 +1030


G'Day Missy.


I can give you a thought on migraine, get some
Rennies or Quikeze indigestion tablets, procurable
almost anywhere, they'll do the trick.  Pop one in
the mouth immediately you feel a migraine coming
on and it should stop it in its tracks.


N.



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From: missy.ad...@live.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 09:04:57 -0500
Subject: CShello!


Good morning! My name is Missy and I'm new here.
Thank you for including me as I'm always looking
for new, natural ways to heal my body. I started
learning about CS as I search for an answer to
migraines. I have recently been showing many
symptoms of hypothyroidism and want to try CS to
feel better.  I feel that my symptoms could all
just be linked to a candida overgrowth. I would
love to hear some thoughts on this!
Thanks!


Missy :)

Re: CSElectrode cleaning?

[Judy Knowlton]

6. I like to make pint-size batches – quick, and electrodes need less cleaning.
JudyDownMaine 

From: Neville Munn 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:16 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: CSElectrode cleaning?

I seek everyone's cooperation for a quick quiz.  Would everyone/anyone here 
care to indulge me in my quest for information on cleaning your electrodes on 
machines fitted with automatic polarity reversal? 

How often do you physically remove the electrodes from the water and wipe them 
over?

1. Physically removed from water at regular timed intervals during the 
production process.
2. Physically removed from water at random intervals during the production 
process.
3. Seldom physically remove them from the water while production is in process.
4. Never physically remove them from the water while production is in process.
6. Only between each batch produced.
7.When I feel like it.
8. Rarely.
9. Never.
10.  Other ~ with brief explanation.

Just type a number in your answer will do, except for number 8 of course.

To those who are willing to provide answers, I Thank You in advance.

N.
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RE: CSnatural blood thinners . . .

[Judy Knowlton]

I like your attitude, Neville.
JDM



-Original Message-
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSnatural blood thinners . . .


Just a layman's perspective so don't go off on a
wild tangent and think I'm having a go at you
here...


I'd rather take aspirin that Warfarin, which is
rat poison, and as I understand it, 'thinning the
blood' to a point whereby the heart just ceases to
function, bleed to death if you like.  Aspirin has
been used since Adam wore short pants.  Quantity
or amount taken according to the circumstance.
While 'blood thinner' may not be politically
correct at least it's globally recognised and
understood as preventing clots without having a
doctorate or degree to understand the why's and
wherefore's g.


I'm not smart enough to understand the
complexities of what it does or how it works, and
I certainly wouldn't wade through a heap of human
biological jargon and terminologies to try to
understand it, if it worked for my ancestors it'll
work for me, that's about all I need to know.



A while ago here in Australia there was a media
campaign trying to put people off taking aspirin
for just such a purpose...I wonder why that would
be {nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say n'more}...Why
self medicate and possibly cause more harm than
good when the establishment to do it for you g.
If I'm going to die, by and large, I'd rather it
be by my own hand than someone else's.



Again, I'm not having a go here, just voicing a
layman's perspective {friend, mate, pal, buddy}.


N.



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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 16:48:30 -0800
From: sky_wav...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSnatural blood thinners . . .
To: silver-list@eskimo.com


contrary to popular belief, blood thinners do
not THIN the blood
taking blood thinners (eg aspirin, coumadin,
etc.) do not thin the blood


what blood thinners do is either impair platelet
functioning or impair clotting factor
production/function
taking blood thinners does NOT make blood
thinner (more watery)
increasing fluid intake can reduce dehydration,
reducing hematocrit, which is the lab number for
liquid to solid ratio of the blood -
a lower hematocrit # translates into more liquid
blood with less solid (blood cells) in it


many health care professionals misle ad the public
by using the words blood thinner and
in my experience many health care professionals
don't even understand the concept themselves


there is likely a limit to how watery one can
make blood,
as the kidneys are designed to regulate the amount
of water in the body via various feedback loops
...
damaged kidneys can impair body water regulation
(as can damage to the endocrine system
which is involved in messaging body hydration
throughout the organism


please folks, use the term blood thinning
accurately
do some research; google platelet function (such
as platelet aggregation) and google clotting
factors or clotting factor cascade


GS



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From: ejohns9...@aol.com ejohns9...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: CSnatural blood thinners . . .



Vit E helps thin blood

Edith
-Original Message-
From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 4, 2013 3:21 pm
Subject: Re: CSnatural blood thinners . . .


Note that Vitamin K helps with blood clotting, not
blood thinning...

Dan

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Judy Knowlton
judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 Check on google, foods to AVOID on coumadin
 Foods rich in Viamin K
 Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy
greens, such as Swiss chard,
 kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and
cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
 liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented
dairy, including yogurt,
 cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and
natto,
 garlic
 dried fruit
 fish
 leafy green vegitables
  alcohol
 natokinase


 Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy
greens, such as Swiss chard,
 kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and
cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
 liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented
dairy, including yogurt,
 cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and
natto,


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FW: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated

[Judy Knowlton]

I have had uneven heartbeat -- recognized first
when I had my first child in 1957.
As I grew older, I could hear the rhythm --
sometimes every 2 or 3 beats, then a pause.

I have an enlarged heart. Lately (I'm 77) I have
requested regular blood tests to discover my
mineral balances.  That got me to taking (on my
own)
Vitamin C, D, E, Co-Q-10, B-complex, krill oil,
red yeast rice  and baby aspirin. And 8 glasses of
water with a splash of appe cider vinegar.
The heart doctor wanted me on a statin.  I loudly
refused.  He said to me Then why don't you do
what I do -- fish oil and red yeast rice.  THAT's
what doctors seem to do: push Pharma for others,
natural stuff for themselves!

When I started my regimen, my heartbeat moved
slowly to a pause about every 10 beats, to every
30 beats, to ...I quit counting afer 100 without a
noticeable pause.

Am I doing myself harm? Perhaps. Less harm than
doing what the doctors might have wanted? I
suspect so.

I found myself in the ER a year ago with a badly
flopping heart. I had failed to take potassium
for a few days and had changed my diet
quickly. The ER gave me an IV bag and 2 pills of
potassium and sent me home. It was a scare and a
warning.









-Original Message-
From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 11:10 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAfib


You will need to google it.  There is a website
for A-fibbers.
PT




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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, March 3, 2013 10:24:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSAfib


What is it??

On 3/3/2013 9:26 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

  Have you tried the A-fibber's cocktail?
  PT




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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sun, March 3, 2013 8:22:35 PM
  Subject: CSAfib


  Anyone know of anything that works for afib?
  Thanks:
  Bruce a.

  
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RE: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated

[Judy Knowlton]

He growls...but says I only need to see him once a
year, and my Nurse Practitioner is practical!
JDM



-Original Message-
From: James McDonald [mailto:kscma...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 10:07 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated


What has your doctor said about your improved
health? That you are naturaly helping yourself,
those stations are deadly to your body, of course
your cost of keeping healthy without Big Pharma
has to be much cheaper!!






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From: Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com
To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 9:20 AM
Subject: FW: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated



I have had uneven heartbeat -- recognized first
when I had my first child in 1957.
As I grew older, I could hear the rhythm --
sometimes every 2 or 3 beats, then a pause.

I have an enlarged heart. Lately (I'm 77) I have
requested regular blood tests to discover my
mineral balances.  That got me to taking (on my
own)
Vitamin C, D, E, Co-Q-10, B-complex, krill oil,
red yeast rice  and baby aspirin. And 8 glasses of
water with a splash of appe cider vinegar.
The heart doctor wanted me on a statin.  I loudly
refused.  He said to me Then why don't you do
what I do -- fish oil and red yeast rice.  THAT's
what doctors seem to do: push Pharma for others,
natural stuff for themselves!

When I started my regimen, my heartbeat moved
slowly to a pause about every 10 beats, to every
30 beats, to ...I quit counting afer 100 without a
noticeable pause.

Am I doing myself harm? Perhaps. Less harm than
doing what the doctors might have wanted? I
suspect so.

I found myself in the ER a year ago with a badly
flopping heart. I had failed to take potassium
for a few days and had changed my diet
quickly. The ER gave me an IV bag and 2 pills of
potassium and sent me home. It was a scare and a
warning.







-Original Message-
From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 11:10 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAfib


You will need to google it.  There is a website
for A-fibbers.
PT




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Sent: Sun, March 3, 2013 10:24:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSAfib


What is it??

On 3/3/2013 9:26 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

  Have you tried the A-fibber's cocktail?
  PT




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  Subject: CSAfib


  Anyone know of anything that works for afib?
  Thanks:
  Bruce a.

  
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RE: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated

[Judy Knowlton]

Oh yes -- they made the manufactured Statins
originally from Red Yeast Rice.
Considering what's at stake, I think I'm healthier
than deveral of my friends. I know for sure that
many throughout the world think our medical system
wears blinders.
Of course, I hope I'm not getting myself into
trouble.  Here in Maine we can have a Nurse
Practitioner as a Primary.  He (name is Brien) and
I struggle with things.  He's willing to listen,
and I've done some of the things he wishes. --
Right now, removing 5 more pounds and I may get
off BP pills (my goal!)
I do know death is a natural progression, and
think my joyful attitude day by day is helpful.
JudyDownMaine





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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:40 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated


Wonderful story. I wonder if you know that red
yeast rice is considered a 'statin'... a natural
one but it has all the characteristics of the
rest.
Just wanted to make sure you know considering what
is at stake.
PT




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Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 9:20:21 AM
Subject: FW: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated


I have had uneven heartbeat -- recognized first
when I had my first child in 1957.
As I grew older, I could hear the rhythm --
sometimes every 2 or 3 beats, then a pause.

I have an enlarged heart. Lately (I'm 77) I have
requested regular blood tests to discover my
mineral balances.  That got me to taking (on my
own)
Vitamin C, D, E, Co-Q-10, B-complex, krill oil,
red yeast rice  and baby aspirin. And 8 glasses of
water with a splash of appe cider vinegar.
The heart doctor wanted me on a statin.  I loudly
refused.  He said to me Then why don't you do
what I do -- fish oil and red yeast rice.  THAT's
what doctors seem to do: push Pharma for others,
natural stuff for themselves!

When I started my regimen, my heartbeat moved
slowly to a pause about every 10 beats, to every
30 beats, to ...I quit counting afer 100 without a
noticeable pause.

Am I doing myself harm? Perhaps. Less harm than
doing what the doctors might have wanted? I
suspect so.

I found myself in the ER a year ago with a badly
flopping heart. I had failed to take potassium
for a few days and had changed my diet
quickly. The ER gave me an IV bag and 2 pills of
potassium and sent me home. It was a scare and a
warning.








-Original Message-
From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 11:10 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAfib


You will need to google it.  There is a website
for A-fibbers.
PT




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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, March 3, 2013 10:24:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSAfib


What is it??

On 3/3/2013 9:26 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

  Have you tried the A-fibber's cocktail?
  PT




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  Sent: Sun, March 3, 2013 8:22:35 PM
  Subject: CSAfib


  Anyone know of anything that works for afib?
  Thanks:
  Bruce a.

  
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RE: CSafib -- so true!

[Judy Knowlton]

-Original Message-
From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:17 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSafib


  Since nearly everyone is deficient in magnesium
(which is required for muscle contraction and
relaxation) supplementing with this nutrient may
be helpful.  From what I have read, it usually
results in the disappearance of the problem.  And
if we are deficient in one mineral, we usually are
deficient in others.  Best wishes,  pj

CSnatural blood thinners . . .

[Judy Knowlton]

Check on google, foods to AVOID on coumadin
Foods rich in Viamin K
Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy greens, such as Swiss chard,
kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented dairy, including yogurt,
cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and natto,
garlic
dried fruit
fish
leafy green vegitables
 alcohol
natokinase


Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy greens, such as Swiss chard,
kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented dairy, including yogurt,
cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and natto,


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RE: CSnatural blood thinners . . oops!.

[Judy Knowlton]

Oops -- you are correct. I think K is also a
normalizer to some extent -- not helpful if you want the thinning coumadin
in any case!.

 

-Original Message-
From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:21 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSnatural blood thinners . . .


Note that Vitamin K helps with blood clotting, not blood thinning...

Dan

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Judy Knowlton
judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 Check on google, foods to AVOID on coumadin
 Foods rich in Viamin K
 Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy greens, such as Swiss chard,
 kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
 liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented dairy, including yogurt,
 cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and natto,
 garlic
 dried fruit
 fish
 leafy green vegitables
  alcohol
 natokinase


 Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy greens, such as Swiss chard,
 kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
 liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented dairy, including yogurt,
 cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and natto,


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CSNebulizer information needed

[Judy Knowlton]

A friend with a bad cold (?) wants to use a combination of
CS and normal saline in her nebulizer (or neti pot) so the CS won't
hurt.
I'm over my head here.  I just nebulize with CS straight and cough and
cold disappear.
Thanks for any experience!
Judy Down Maine



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RE: CSNebulizer information needed

[Judy Knowlton]

Many thanks, all ... I am satisfied already that
my way (OUR way) works best.
You've given me good confirmation.
Unfortunately, she is an elderly pharmacist, and
you know she knows more than I know (grin.)
Judy Down Maine



-Original Message-
From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:20 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNebulizer information needed


In this case, two rights could make a wrong. I
think in the archives of one of my groups there
was something about the salt acting upon the
silver. I rely solely on CS. It's done far more
for me than saline ever did.


Be well,
Léna

On Feb 21, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Tony Moody wrote:


  Hi Judy,

  My experience is that CS won't hurt by itself.
It is generally soothing. Adding saline to that
  would/could change it. Maybe you friend could
have some normal saline standing by and try
  straight CS first.

  OK,
  Tony

   On 21 Feb 2013 at 12:28, Judy Knowlton wrote
about :
  Subject : CSNebulizer information needed




A friend with a bad cold (?) wants to use a
combination of

CS and normal saline in her nebulizer (or
neti pot) so the CS won't

hurt. I'm over my head here.  I just
nebulize with CS straight and cough

and cold disappear. Thanks for any experience!
Judy Down Maine







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RE: CSNebulizer information needed

[Judy Knowlton]

Hoho!  Grandchildren and vinegar!  Secondary
bottle -- No wonder it hurt!
Embarrassment and laughter.  I don't know,
folks --
Judy Down Maine




-Original Message-
From: Judy Knowlton
[mailto:judydownma...@roadrunner.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:49 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSNebulizer information needed


Many thanks, all ... I am satisfied already that
my way (OUR way) works best.
You've given me good confirmation.
Unfortunately, she is an elderly pharmacist, and
you know she knows more than I know (grin.)
Judy Down Maine


-Original Message-
From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:20 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNebulizer information needed


In this case, two rights could make a wrong. I
think in the archives of one of my groups there
was something about the salt acting upon the
silver. I rely solely on CS. It's done far more
for me than saline ever did.


Be well,
Léna

On Feb 21, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Tony Moody wrote:


  Hi Judy,

  My experience is that CS won't hurt by itself.
It is generally soothing. Adding saline to that
  would/could change it. Maybe you friend could
have some normal saline standing by and try
  straight CS first.

  OK,
  Tony

   On 21 Feb 2013 at 12:28, Judy Knowlton wrote
about :
  Subject : CSNebulizer information needed




A friend with a bad cold (?) wants to use a
combination of

CS and normal saline in her nebulizer (or
neti pot) so the CS won't

hurt. I'm over my head here.  I just
nebulize with CS straight and cough

and cold disappear. Thanks for any experience!
Judy Down Maine







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RE: CSRecommendations for CS generator

[Judy Knowlton]

Well, my Silver Puppy is wonderful -- had it
several years now.
I sent one to my 55 year old son in Myrtle Beach
for Christmas this year -- he has always used
units he made himself, but he has to watch them
and turn them off -- a problem when you have to go
to work!
The Puppy shuts off automatically.  My son is
making silver like mad, curing dogs and cats and
friends like never before.
I told him it was wonderful when an elderly mother
can give her son a toy for Christmas he really
loves to play with!
Judy Down Maine



-Original Message-
From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:49 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRecommendations for CS generator


Some folks get as fiercely loyal to their
equipment as their sports teams. I don't feel that
way, but can speak from my own experience that my
Silver Puppy has served me well for years now. I'm
sure others are great, too.
Be well,
Léna

On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Gene Wolfe wrote:


  I have both a silver puppy and a silvergen. They
are both excellent units.

  I did have a problem with the puppy and emailed
Ode and he came back and said he would fix
anything for $20. I mailed the unit back to him
with $20 and he fixed it and sent it back with a
$10 bill. You can't ask for better service.

  Gene


  On 2/19/2013 11:02 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:

We would like to buy a quality CS generator for
home use. By quality, we
mean a unit that produces quality CS as well as a
quality unit that we can
expect to work well for many years to come with
minimal maintenance.

We do not have any personal experience with a CS
generator, though we've
enjoyed CS given to us by a friend in the past who
uses the home unit from
www.silvergen.com. She's been fairly happy with
it, but recommended we ask
here as she hasn't looked into this for some time.

FYI we have both 24VDC and 60Hz 120VAC true sine
wave power available in our
off-grid home, though we like to turn the AC power
off while we sleep.

Ideally, we would like to buy a unit built to
produce excellent quality CS,
last 20+ years with only electrode replacement,
and accept electrodes that
are not more costly than necessary.

Is there such a unit available for sale?

What would you recommend?

This is new to us, so all feedback and
suggestions--even what to look for,
if not a recommendation of a specific unit--are
welcome. If you recommend a
specific unit, we'd love to know what features
lead you to recommend it.

Thanks for your time! Please let us know if we can
help with any further
information.



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RE: CS How to prevent treat the flu.-CS tops the list for prevention

[Judy Knowlton]

Hello - I've been overlooking the CS list for some
time -- busy,
But I did just read the natural news link below.
What strength is the CS that says take a teaspoon
a day?
I make probably 10 ppm CS, and would certainly
take more than that for any good effect.
Judy Down Maine



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From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:50 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS How to prevent  treat the
flu.-CS tops the list for prevention


Thanks, Lois.  I don't know why he has people
sniffing occillocosinum.  I divide the dose by
three and take 1/3 of a vial each time... and it
works well.
PT




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Sent: Tue, January 15, 2013 7:56:53 AM
Subject: CS How to prevent  treat the flu.-CS
tops the list for prevention


Here's some powerful, lifesaving information on
how to beat the flu, even during a pandemic:
http://www.naturalnews.com/038689_flu_pandemic_hom
e_remedies_influenza.html

This is from ( www.NaturalNews.com ) news letter I
just got.. Good old chicken soup is also
mentioned.. Lois

RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine

[Judy Knowlton]

Hi, Neville -- your comment seems logical indeed.
However, I live on the coast of Maine, where we
often have 2 days of sun a month whether we need
it or not.. Heavy clouds often.  We often have to
bundle up because of the cold and wind.  SAD
(Seasonal Affective Disorder) is a noticeable
problem in winter for many.  A couple of years
ago, I began taking a little Vitamin D daily.  I'm
a naturally cheerful and upbeat sort at age 77. I
forgot about it,  and was surprised to feel a
noticeable lift after a couple of weeks. I had
done nothing else different.
Judy Down Maine



-Original Message-
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 5:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY


I started a new topic so I could air my views on
this ridiculous Vit D deficiency BS.


I live in Australia for Christ sake, we get enough
sun here that if you walked around under it for
too long your body fluids would start to simmer,
and eventually boil inside your damn skin, and
they waffle on and diagnose people with Vit D
deficiency.??  Shear and utter lunacy!!!


Work it out for heavens sake.  WHY and HOW can
Homo Sapien in the 21st century possibly be
lacking in ANY vitamin, AND mineral if it comes to
that, because I have no doubt we are surely
lacking in bucket loads of those too if they cared
to investigate???


We are slowly being poisoned, deprived of natural
nutrients in pretty much EVERYTHING we drink and
consume, not forgetting those microwave
terminators that we put food and liquid into
before consumption.


If this was a natural occurrence, we would never
have progressed past the Stone Age???


This lacking of vitamins and minerals is being
forced upon every Homo Sapien on the planet pretty
much, and with the dollar and profit as
motivation.


There is so much BS being spread around by those
little people in their white dust coats that
people are actually believing everything some
organisation puts out.


The FDA, our TGA and any other funded mob of
laboratory Frankensteins all have vested interests
in something OTHER than your and my health in
mind!!


There, I've got that off my chest, nobody need
reply, just considered it was time for a voice of
sanity and reason to be heard.






N.

RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine

[Judy Knowlton]

See? Life is simply perfect in its imperfection.
It just started raining again here, and is going
to be 38 degrees. Because of the wind it will
feel like 35.   We have been soaked much of the
last few months Being on the Eastern edge of the
continent, we get everything. The Big Pond seems
to do something with the moisture and temperature
change.
We also dom't lose power often even when inland
Maine is iced in.  Our standing joke is, the only
time we lose power is when a drunk runs into a
pole.
(Pretty much true!)
If I could, I would package some of our rain for
you.  Perhaps I could dehydrate it, send it in a
box, and you could rehydrate as you need it?
JDM
BTW.  This is still the place I want to live!



-Original Message-
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 7:37 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the
Great State of Maine


Gee, I hope nobody misunderstands me here and
starts to think I'm attacking anyone, this is just
how I see things.


I guess they don't get much sun in other places
too but I seriously doubt there would still be a
population there over the centuries up to the
present time?


I'm not having a go at you here either Judy, one
of my failings is not having a way with words, I
just tend to spit it out and tie pretty ribbons
around it afterwards if necessary g.  It's just
how I see things on this planet of ours, well if I
were to be honest, it's seemingly and increasingly
the planet of somebody else's nowadays.


Two days of sun a month whether we need it or
not...Love that sense of humour g.  I'd swap
you in an instant.  Send some of those clouds this
way, and put some water in with them.  The older I
get the more I'm developing a hatred for that big
fireball in the sky, enough is enough here, it
isn't funny anymore g.


N.

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From: judydownma...@roadrunner.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the
Great State of Maine
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 19:14:45 -0500


Hi, Neville -- your comment seems logical indeed.
However, I live on the coast of Maine, where we
often have 2 days of sun a month whether we need
it or not.. Heavy clouds often.  We often have to
bundle up because of the cold and wind.  SAD
(Seasonal Affective Disorder) is a noticeable
problem in winter for many.  A couple of years
ago, I began taking a little Vitamin D daily.  I'm
a naturally cheerful and upbeat sort at age 77. I
forgot about it,  and was surprised to feel a
noticeable lift after a couple of weeks. I had
done nothing else different.
Judy Down Maine



-Original Message-
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 5:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY

RE: CSpossibility of shingles! MY PERENNIAL QUESTION

[Judy Knowlton]

I haven't been reading all your emails on
shingles, but have noticed many coming through,
so I must ask again ...
has anyone actually FLOODED his/her body with
C-silver for 3 days? That is, moving intake up
over a few days to drinking
ALL liquid intake as c-silver (10 ppm) ?  I
believe it is what I would seriously consider,
having watched my son's
cat-scratch infection (not shingles) disappear
in less than 2 days from an edemic leg that was
violent red from ankle to knee.
Judy Down Maine



-Original Message-
From: Zoe W [mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 9:20 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSpossibility of shingles!


LOL  I just asked the same question.


Lena,  mine are almost gone now,  as long as I
remember to take the Lysine 3X daily  they behave
themselves.  Lots of the other things I am
continuing for other reasons.  C-B and Niacin.


I did 2 things to keep my sanity,  #1  sleep a LOT
#2  when awake  I played games on Facebook.  kept
my mind off it.


zoe



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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, 26 October 2012, 20:41
Subject: Re: CSpossibility of shingles!



OK Tel,
I'll bite. What herbal concoction/recipe can you
share? I'm a desperate woman! =)


Be well, my friend,
Léna

On Oct 26, 2012, at 8:10 PM, Tel Tofflemire wrote:


  If the Booze does not work,
   I have some Herbal tea I make that works very
well,
  I make it fresh with each use.
   I  have used it with many for over 20 years for
shingles.

  Tel Tofflemire



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  Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:57 PM
  Subject: Re: CSpossibility of shingles!



  Hi Craig,
  This is very helpful! I just bought a bottle of
vodka the other day for making tinctures, so will
try this. I take Boron regularly and put Borax in
my laundry, so I may tinker with a mix of vodka,
borax, and CS and see what happens.


  I miss Obie. Wonder where he's at. Thanks for
keeping such good archives.


  Really appreciate all the support in this
suffering.
  Be well,
  Léna



  On Oct 26, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Craig Chamberlin
wrote:


Hi Lena,

About ten years ago I got this suggestion from
Obie (you still around Obie?) and it has worked
for a number of people with whom I have shared it.


I use a large spray bottle, pour Everclear (180+
proof alcohol) into it, for shingles, to about 5%
and fill the bottle with water shake and spray.
This will kill the bacteria completely and it
won't take two or three weeks.  Use a dilute
solution and spray more often because they are
dominating such a large area of her skin that it
will be painful if it's too strong.  Any other
skin or mouth, throat problem, I use the solution
at 10%.  It's teriffic, works every time.

Also, if she thinks external bacteria is a
problem, suggest Borax as a
bodywash and in the washine machine.  They can't
feed on us with Borax.  I've used it for years;
never had any further problems.
The best to her, Obie.

The same ratio could be made by using vodka (which
is usually 40 proof). I can't remember the formula
to calculate how much water to add to this to get
the same 5% that Obie is referring to...I am
certain Marshall does.

I know that this knocks the pain down almost
immediately...and I know after the application of
alcohol, the area was wiped/dabbed with CS.

Maybe this will help.

FWIW,

Craig

Lena Guyot wrote:
  Hi Zoe,
  I've been applying Brooks mix to the patches
which calms them briefly. Between that and the GB
issues, I feel like I'm in one of Dante's circles
of hell. I'm drinking CS as well and taking 3g of
L-lysine. Already on 15g of C a day along with 15g
of Himalayan salt. I'm Rifing the herpes Zoster
frequencies, in hope that they can reduce this.


  My husband is understandably nervous about
my misery and brings up the 'D' word ( as in
doctor), but I don't want black box pharma, not
with Lyme disease on board. He's presently off to
the nat. food store and pharmacy for some topical
cremes that are supposed to help.


  How has your battle been? I've only been
fighting this a week and can't imagine how you've
hung on. What other tricks have you used. Are you
still sane? I have a very high pain threshold, but
this is something else.


  Thanks and be well,
  Léna

RE: CSpossibility of shingles! MY PERENNIAL QUESTION ANSWERED

[Judy Knowlton]

Thank you, Neville. I should have been reading
more attentively.
Your email is being saved, and validates my ever
assumption!
Judy Down Maine




-Original Message-
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 10:23 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSpossibility of shingles! MY
PERENNIAL QUESTION


My earlier post outlined my treatment.  I omitted
to say that initially I administered 1 x 8 ounce
glass {250ml} EIS produced using rain water to
achieve high total silver content {40+ ppm silver
content, lab analysed} then following 4-5 days
with approx 16 ounces {500ml} split in two batches
of freshly produced 8 ounce {250ml} glasses of
approx 10-13ppm EIS produced using DW. I ensured
one glass was consumed in the morning hours and
the other glass in the afternoon hours, all EIS
had to be consumed each day.  Stopped
administration of EIS after around those 4-5 days
from memory because recovery was definitely
evident, blisters disappearing, rash receding and
no post herpatic neuralgic or whatever it's called
pain upon full recovery.  Back to work after a
fortnight basically.  I am convinced the EIS was
efficacious in this instance.  All the person took
in addition to EIS was pain killers for around a
week.  Each glass for each of those days were
freshly brewed and consumed during aforesaid time
frames to maximise Ag+ ion intake.


The first dose was an attempt to flood the body
initially with that high silver level by using
rain water, then followed by normally produced EIS
in the hope of maintaining enough Ag+ ions in the
system to be effective, I believe it was.


Just my observational experience with EIS and
Shingles for a family member FWIW.



N.

--
--
From: judydownma...@roadrunner.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSpossibility of shingles! MY
PERENNIAL QUESTION
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:25:09 -0400


I haven't been reading all your emails on
shingles, but have noticed many coming through,
so I must ask again ...
has anyone actually FLOODED his/her body with
C-silver for 3 days? That is, moving intake up
over a few days to drinking
ALL liquid intake as c-silver (10 ppm) ?  I
believe it is what I would seriously consider,
having watched my son's
cat-scratch infection (not shingles) disappear
in less than 2 days from an edemic leg that was
violent red from ankle to knee.
Judy Down Maine

RE: CSnose bleeds

[Judy Knowlton]

My immediate thought is that nosebleeds can be an
early sign of high blood pressure.
JudyDownMaine

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proposals for reform,  open to new ideas for
progress,  tolerant of the ideas  behavior
of others; broad-minded.
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Dictionary
Yes, that's me -- at least I try to be!
.


-Original Message-
From: jbidmt [mailto:jbi...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 3:08 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSnose bleeds


  is it possible that by taking a dose which
was not filtered that the nano particles would cut
through blood vessels?  thanks

  --- On Sat, 9/15/12, Dan Nave
bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSnose bleeds
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, September 15, 2012, 10:39
AM


No, but it is basically distilled water.
If you are holding it in you nose/sinuses for a
long time it might have a drying effect.  Silver
tends to be drying.  Try some castor oil in the
nostrils.  Kind of depends on exactly what is
going on, not much info was given...

Dan


On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 7:48 AM, jbidmt
jbi...@yahoo.com wrote:

anyone ever get a nosebleed from
overdosing cs?  thanks

RE: CSOreganol - OT

[Judy Knowlton]

Oreganol - OTStay away from those capsules (grin)
JDM

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traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes,
views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. Favoring
proposals for reform,  open to new ideas for
progress,  tolerant of the ideas  behavior
of others; broad-minded.
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Dictionary
Yes, that's me -- at least I try to be!
.


-Original Message-
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 3:20 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOreganol - OT


Has anyone felt ‘queasy’ after taking a couple of
drops in a capsule?  Just that I did and when I
gave it to my dog in a capsule before his meal, he
got sick.  Any suggestions?  Dee

RE: CSWarning on computer virus from our local Tampa Bay News

[Judy Knowlton]

I am always astonished when I read outrageous
comments about a competent government employee.
Politics seems to make us forget our ability to
use logic and common sense!
Anyway, checking Snopes.com -- a trusted
website -- gives this information.  It is TRUE
http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/dnschanger.as
p

JudyDownMaine

.


-Original Message-
From: glendajma...@aol.com
[mailto:glendajma...@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 2:03 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWarning on computer virus from our
local Tampa Bay News


this is just a ploy from holder and his  cronies
including obummer to gain access to your ip
address, and your system at a later date. Do not
believe a word they say, about not comprising your
computer. Why would they care about a virus?
unless they are the virus???






-Original Message-
From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 5, 2012 8:53 am
Subject: CSWarning on computer virus from our
local Tampa Bay News


I don't know how many of you watch the news but
this morning our local channel 13 news gave a
warning out of Washington that there is a bad
virus the FBI has had contained but for some
reason the block will be lifted and if you haven't
checked to see if your computer is infected by
Monday you are going to have serious computer
problems.  They gave the following web site and
I've copied it and the page that comes up when
you go to the site.  Mine thankfully was green.
If it turns red there is a problem and there is
another web site at the bottom that you will have
to
go to that fixes the problem I think.  I did not
see the program personally but my husband did and
wrote the site down for me.



To check for virus to go:


http://www.dns-ok.us/



DNS Changer Check-Up






  DNS Resolution = GREEN

  Your computer appears to be looking up IP
addresses correctly!

  Had your computer been infected with DNS
changer malware you would have seen a red
background. Please note, however, that if your ISP
is redirecting DNS traffic for its customers you
would have reached this site even though you are
infected. For additional information regarding the
DNS changer malware, please visit the FBI's
website at:
  http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/novembe
r/malware_110911

RE: CSWarning on computer virus from our local Tampa Bay News

[Judy Knowlton]

They have a reputation for accuracy.
JudyDownMaine

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traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes,
views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. Favoring
proposals for reform,  open to new ideas for
progress,  tolerant of the ideas  behavior
of others; broad-minded.
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Dictionary
Yes, that's me -- at least I try to be!
.


-Original Message-
From: Jane MacRoss
[mailto:highfie...@internode.on.net]
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 9:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWarning on computer virus from our
local Tampa Bay News


What might be more trustworthy?
  - Original Message -
  From: glendajma...@aol.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:11 AM
  Subject: Re: CSWarning on computer virus from
our local Tampa Bay News


  snopes is run by a husband and wife team, thats
it!! if you trust that???



  -Original Message-
  From: slickpicker slickpic...@cox.net
  To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
  Cc: Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com
  Sent: Sat, Jul 7, 2012 2:29 pm
  Subject: RE: CSWarning on computer virus from
our local Tampa Bay News


I am always astonished when I read outrageous
comments about a competent
government employee.

LOL - thanks for providing some levity to this
usually-serious forum.


 Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com
wrote:

=
I am always astonished when I read outrageous
comments about a competent government employee.
Politics seems to make us forget our ability to
use logic and common sense!
Anyway, checking Snopes.com -- a trusted
website -- gives this information.  It is TRUE
http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/dnschanger.as
p

JudyDownMaine

.


-Original Message-
From: glendajma...@aol.com
[mailto:glendajma...@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 2:03 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWarning on computer virus from our
local Tampa Bay News


this is just a ploy from holder and his  cronies
including obummer to gain access to your ip
address, and your system at a later date. Do not
believe a word they say, about not comprising your
computer. Why would they care about a virus?
unless they are the virus???






-Original Message-
From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 5, 2012 8:53 am
Subject: CSWarning on computer virus from our
local Tampa Bay News


I don't know how many of you watch the news but
this morning our local channel 13 news gave a
warning out of Washington that there is a bad
virus the FBI has had contained but for some
reason the block will be lifted and if you haven't
checked to see if your computer is infected by
Monday you are going to have serious computer
problems.  They gave the following web site and
I've copied it and the page that comes up when
you go to the site.  Mine thankfully was green.
If it turns red there is a problem and there is
another web site at the bottom that you will have
to
go to that fixes the problem I think.  I did not
see the program personally but my husband did and
wrote the site down for me.



To check for virus to go:


http://www.dns-ok.us/



DNS Changer Check-Up






  DNS Resolution = GREEN

  Your computer appears to be looking up IP
addresses correctly!

  Had your computer been infected with DNS
changer malware you would have seen a red
background. Please note, however, that if your ISP
is redirecting DNS traffic for its customers you
would have reached this site even though you are
infected. For additional information regarding the
DNS changer malware, please visit the FBI's
website at:
  http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/novembe
r/malware_110911


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RE: CSWarning on computer virus from our local Tampa Bay News

[Judy Knowlton]

Snopes is information only, not an antivirus.
JDM

___
LIBERAL:  Not limited to or by established,
traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes,
views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. Favoring
proposals for reform,  open to new ideas for
progress,  tolerant of the ideas  behavior
of others; broad-minded.
  American Heritage
Dictionary
Yes, that's me -- at least I try to be!
.


-Original Message-
From: glendajma...@aol.com
[mailto:glendajma...@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 10:18 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWarning on computer virus from our
local Tampa Bay News


a good antivirus, like drwebb, or trendmicro
online, or malwarebytes, these are free.








-Original Message-
From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net
To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Jul 7, 2012 6:56 pm
Subject: Re: CSWarning on computer virus from our
local Tampa Bay News


What might be more trustworthy?
  - Original Message -
  From: glendajma...@aol.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:11 AM
  Subject: Re: CSWarning on computer virus from
our local Tampa Bay News


  snopes is run by a husband and wife team, thats
it!! if you trust that???



  -Original Message-
  From: slickpicker slickpic...@cox.net
  To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
  Cc: Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com
  Sent: Sat, Jul 7, 2012 2:29 pm
  Subject: RE: CSWarning on computer virus from
our local Tampa Bay News


I am always astonished when I read outrageous
comments about a competent

government employee.



LOL - thanks for providing some levity to this
usually-serious forum.





 Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com
wrote:



=

I am always astonished when I read outrageous

comments about a competent government employee.

Politics seems to make us forget our ability to

use logic and common sense!

Anyway, checking Snopes.com -- a trusted

website -- gives this information.  It is TRUE

http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/dnschanger.as

p



JudyDownMaine



.





-Original Message-

From: glendajma...@aol.com

[mailto:glendajma...@aol.com]

Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 2:03 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: Re: CSWarning on computer virus from our

local Tampa Bay News





this is just a ploy from holder and his  cronies

including obummer to gain access to your ip

address, and your system at a later date. Do not

believe a word they say, about not comprising your

computer. Why would they care about a virus?

unless they are the virus???













-Original Message-

From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com

To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com

Sent: Thu, Jul 5, 2012 8:53 am

Subject: CSWarning on computer virus from our

local Tampa Bay News





I don't know how many of you watch the news but

this morning our local channel 13 news gave a

warning out of Washington that there is a bad

virus the FBI has had contained but for some

reason the block will be lifted and if you haven't

checked to see if your computer is infected by

Monday you are going to have serious computer

problems.  They gave the following web site and

I've copied it and the page that comes up when

you go to the site.  Mine thankfully was green.

If it turns red there is a problem and there is

another web site at the bottom that you will have

to

go to that fixes the problem I think.  I did not

see the program personally but my husband did and

wrote the site down for me.







To check for virus to go:





http://www.dns-ok.us/







DNS Changer Check-Up













  DNS Resolution = GREEN



  Your computer appears to be looking up IP

addresses correctly!



  Had your computer been infected with DNS

changer malware you would have seen a red

background. Please note, however, that if your ISP

is redirecting DNS traffic for its customers you

would have reached this site even though you are

infected. For additional information regarding the

DNS changer malware, please visit the FBI's

website at:

  http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/novembe

r/malware_110911





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RE: CSAnyone experienced with treating Hep-C? -- 30 ppm?

[Judy Knowlton]

Thank you, Diana. That has given me a whole new insight on severe
infestation.
Have you tried 10 ppm before? What is the advantage to using 30 ppm?
Judy K (Judydownmaine)

 _

-Original Message-
From: Diana Clock [mailto:dianacl...@ymail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 9:50 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAnyone experienced with treating Hep-C?


Hi Judy
We are using asap 30 ppm for our 16 yr old for Lyme we just cannot seem
to get past 1/2 teas a day and we use the DP 100 machine. We have
trouble detoxing as we know he has the lyme and mold genes which makes
it more difficult. He seems to herx too much if we up it. A 2 day bash
would so consist of a lot more I guess?
Diana

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 11, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Cyndi cyndi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 6/11/2012 5:46 PM, Judy Knowlton wrote:

 It's my continued strong opinion that people often UNDER-dose with 10
 ppm CS.
 Instead, working a bit slowly up to a real 2-day bash might answer
the
 problem on tricky
 illnesses like HIV, shingles, Lyme, Hep-C, etc. It would definitely
be
 my method.
 Judydownmaine


 When I was taking a cup a day, it was for about a 6 month time period,
much longer than your 2 day bash.

 I had a neighbor with MRSA from a thumb operation. The hospital had
her one antibiotics so severe that she had to take benadryl because she
broke out in hives. There was talk of her possibly losing her thumb and
this went on for many weeks and months.

 I gave her a quart of my home made cs and had her drink it all that
day. Then I gave her a second quart to drink over the course of a week.
Within a few days she was healing and got to keep her thumb.

 Cyndi


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RE: CSLyme disease-- question on movement of CS through system

[Judy Knowlton]

It has been my thought that ionic-size CS could
get just about everywhere in the body IF the body
were FLOODED with CS. I just read about one person
here who said that no nore than a tsp of 30 ppm
was possible before Herxheimer effect was too
great. But what if it were reduced ppm diluted
with more water? Many things move across the
blood-brain barrier - like alcohol and many Rx
meds. My knowledge of the human body is small, but
it is mostly water, isn't it? Am I just being
naive?
Judydownmaine

 -Original Message-
From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 3:44 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSLyme disease



A pint in the am and pm should be plenty.  What
ppm is it? Also, CS does not get to the lymph
system, joints, and likely brain.  These have to
be cleared with other techniques.  If you are just
coming down with it the CS has been reported to
work well, but if  you are chronic, then I would
use the full Bob Beck protocol would be called
for.  However the Clark zapper can be used instead
of the blood electrification from my experience.

Marshall

On 6/11/2012 9:21 PM, Rodney Samuelson wrote:




  Just making sure email got out.  I can find no
one who uses colloidal silver for Lyme disease
except Marshall.  Please reply as I feel like you
can comment on success.  I do not take antibiotics
and feel lousy.  How much CS do you take daily and
when?  I make a pint in am and pm.



   Please call me on 860-881-3734





  rod

RE: CSAnyone experienced with treating Hep-C?

[Judy Knowlton]

When my 50 year old son had a catscratch infection on his ankle -- clear
up to his knee
with a huge red swelling all the way around (he has edemic legs which
don't allow
for proper flushing and cleansing) he took 2 quarts to bed with him.
(Not
really smart, what with Herxheimer's, but he said the alternative would
be a week
hospitalized with IV antibiotics. That had happened once before)
He was completely well in less than 30 hours.

It's my continued strong opinion that people often UNDER-dose with 10
ppm CS.
Instead, working a bit slowly up to a real 2-day bash might answer the
problem on tricky
illnesses like HIV, shingles, Lyme, Hep-C, etc. It would definitely be
my method.
Judydownmaine


 
  #1. -  Rule of Gold 
  #2. -  Golden Rule
 I choose 2. Do you?

-Original Message-
From: Cyndi [mailto:cyndi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 4:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAnyone experienced with treating Hep-C?


On 6/10/2012 9:29 PM, Judy Knowlton wrote:
 How much CS?
 It's my experience on the list that some people take what Iwould
 consider too low an amount to finish the job, so to speak,.
 JudyDownMaine


Now I take a few tablespoons a day but when I was trying to wipe out the
hepatitis I was taking a cup or more per day.

Cyndi


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RE: CSAnyone experienced with treating Hep-C?

[Judy Knowlton]

Thank you -- I let her know.

-Original Message-
From: Cyndi [mailto:cyndi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 6:09 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAnyone experienced with treating Hep-C?


On 6/9/2012 10:41 AM, Judy Knowlton wrote:

 I'd appreciate some feedback -- for a friend, now sober,
 with a drug history.
 JudyDownMaine


I've used cs to reduce my viral load from 14 million down to less than 3
million. It will not totally kill it off that I know of. There are
several alternatives some of us are trying, and combinations of them, at

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/hepcalternative/

Have your friend join us.
Cyndi


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RE: CSAnyone experienced with treating Hep-C?

[Judy Knowlton]

How much CS?
It's my experience on the list that some people take what Iwould
consider too low an amount to finish the job, so to speak,.
JudyDownMaine

 
  #1. -  Rule of Gold 
  #2. -  Golden Rule
 I choose 2. Do you?

-Original Message-
From: Cyndi [mailto:cyndi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:50 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAnyone experienced with treating Hep-C?


On 6/10/2012 6:00 PM, Le wrote:
 Hi

 I have been reading that the parasite med Alinia (brand name)  is
helping people with hep c.

 Do some research on blogs etc.

 very hopeful

 correy

Most of us with hepatitis c are looking for alternatives to the present
and not very successful regiment of interferon and ribaviron. From what
I'm reading, Alinia is added to that regiment and doesn't replace it.

The side effects of the current treatment are horrid and sometimes
permanent. They don't tell you much when you go into treatment and I was
never told that I'd never think clearly ever again.

There are some stand alone treatments in the pipeline that I'm anxiously
waiting for. I will not put myself through all that again, that's for
sure, even if this new drug works out. I'm told the wait will be about
two more years so I'm doing what I can to keep healthy till then. That
includes taking cs on a regular basis.

Cyndi


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CSAnyone experienced with treating Hep-C?

[Judy Knowlton]

I'd appreciate some feedback -- for a friend, now sober,
with a drug history.
JudyDownMaine


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RE: CSBruise with hard center?

[Judy Knowlton]

I jumped at the idea it might actially be a tick
bite (Lyme)
JudyDownMaine

 
  #1. -  Rule of Gold 
  #2. -  Golden Rule
 I choose 2. Do you?

-Original Message-
From: Jane MacRoss
[mailto:highfie...@internode.on.net]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 9:07 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com;
herbal_remed...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: CSBruise with hard center?


Not that you would want a homeopathic opinion but
I have to say I would give Ledum 12x in case it is
a bite and Cunpowder 12x in case it isn't.

Jane
  - Original Message -
  From: Lisa
  To: herbal_remed...@yahoogroups.com
  Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 11:02 PM
  Subject: CSBruise with hard center?


  Hello All,



  My daughter woke up this morning with a light
purplish bruise on the lower part of her shin
bone. It’s about 2-3 inches in diameter with a
light yellow center which feels like a small stone
(tender to the touch). She does not remember
banging herself yesterday – but she is a very
active 9 year old and I can’t rule it out.
However, at the same time – I wonder if it could
also be a spider bite of some sort.



  Either way – what’s the best course of treatment
at this time? I can make a poultice of EIS (silver
water) and then I was thinking perhaps a comfrey
poultice. Is there any way I can draw any of the
toxin out if it is indeed a spider bite?



  Thanks for your help!



  Lisa (in NH)

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RE: CSMay we talk about Shngles vaccine vs. CS?

[Judy Knowlton]

Thank you. Believe in CS over a vaccine, I can
tell you!
I also suspect, because of CS use in the past for
other infections,
that shingles is unlikel;y
Judy

 -Original Message-
From: zzekel...@aol.com [mailto:zzekel...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:05 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMay we talk about Shngles vaccine
vs. CS?



  It occurs to me that intake of CS for other
purposes may have killed the
virus -- especially if we are 10-year
some-time users.
Anybody here actually gotten shingles? Thanks
for any information.
At almost 77, having had chickenpox, I am
interested in opinions and
information .  Vaccine is my lowest choice anyway,
and without Rx coverage, it's about
$200.  Judy Down Maine

Hi Judy, I have not had shingles myself but a
friend got them  the Dr. prescriptions worked but
only for a short time  they came back with a
vengeance...   I offered some CS to her as I had
just read that it helped { I was fairly new to
CS then  I was making it with 4 nine volt
batteries }  She said she would try anything---
this is now going on  3 yrs now  she has not had
a reoccurrence .  She took it orally  applied it
to the shingles.. Also used the   Brooks Mix 
topically   {{ Brooks Mix is--75% CS---10% DMSO 
15% glycerinLois

CSMay we talk about Shngles vaccine vs. CS?

[Judy Knowlton]

It occurs to me that intake of CS for other purposes may have killed the
virus -- especially if we are 10-year some-time users.
Anybody here actually gotten shingles?
Thanks for any information.
At almost 77, having had chickenpox, I am interested in opinions and
information .
Vaccine is my lowest choice anyway, and without Rx coverage, it's about
$200.
Judy Down Maine


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Re: CSMay we talk about Shingles vaccine vs. CS?

[Judy Knowlton]

Thanks, Neville you read me correctly.
I trust my experiences with CS and my attitude has always been positive (joyful 
comes to mind.  Grin)
JudyDownMaine

From: Neville Munn 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:12 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: CSMay we talk about Shngles vaccine vs. CS?

If I've read you correctly, you are a long time user of EIS/CS, just continue 
to do so.  I would not personally contemplate vaccination.  I treated our adult 
son for Shingles, and i believe with remarkable results. I am convinced a 
persons mental state or disposition, among other things, is one way to spark 
Shingles off. 

If you are of sound mind, then I don't see the need for doing anything other 
than continuing with the EIS/CS.

I stress over some things as most people on this planet would, and I've had 
chicken pox as a kid, but I believe it's the mind set or disposition of an 
individual that makes the difference.

I'm a long term daily ingester of a small quantity of EIS/CS and I will never 
contemplate a vaccination.

Oh, better put in that dreaded Disclaimer:  Not advice, just opinion based on 
my mind set g.

N.


 From: judydownma...@roadrunner.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 11:30:34 -0400
 Subject: CSMay we talk about Shngles vaccine vs. CS?
 
 
 It occurs to me that intake of CS for other purposes may have killed the
 virus -- especially if we are 10-year some-time users.
 Anybody here actually gotten shingles?
 Thanks for any information.
 At almost 77, having had chickenpox, I am interested in opinions and
 information .
 Vaccine is my lowest choice anyway, and without Rx coverage, it's about
 $200.
 Judy Down Maine
 
 
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RE: CSArthritis - what causes inflammation?

[Judy Knowlton]

I've noticed an enormous number of arthritis emails and avoided them, so I may 
be repeating
and off-base for the discussion, but I do have a question. What might cause 
inflammation? 
From my own experience, something my body is reacting to, trying to get rid 
of, or protect me from.
My aches and pains pretty much left me when I began to avoid the things I 
traditionally NEVER ran 
out of when purchasing foods-- probably personal allergies (?) to me, but 
common to many humans: 
nightshades, milk products, beef, wheat, alcohol, sugar.  
Just as important, I began paying attention to being chronically dehydrated. 
Now age 76, I only feel really good 
when I;m drinking enough water -- half my pound-weight in ounces per day. A 
very pale lemon-color urine
is a sign I'm on the right track. Anything darker is a warning.
Judydownmaine
 


 



-Original Message-
From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:38 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSArthritis




Sol,
How did you manage to reduce the arthritic nodes?
Thanks,
Paula

-Original Message-
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
Sent: May 28, 2012 1:16 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSArthritis

123 456 wrote:
 Hi Guys,
 one thing I thought someone would have mentioned by now is to please
 avoid the tea, (black Orange Pekoe type) coffe, if you can (very
 addictive that caffein) and milk.
 Of course no one is eating white sugar any more are they?
 When I stopped with all of the above, my so-called arthritis cleared
 and healed within two weeks.
   
Actually, I am eating sugar, yes, white sugar even. And drink LOTS of 
coffee and tea, lots of dairy. My  blood sugar control has improved 
tremendously. My fingers have improved tremendously, with the arthritic 
nodes hugely reduced. Unfortunately my index fingers are still a bit 
twisted, but that stopped progressing as well. www.raypeat.com

Definitely the road less travelled, LOL.
sol


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RE: CSArthritis - what causes inflammation?

[Judy Knowlton]

Thanks, Tara -- I usually use a splash of apple cider vinegar
in my drinking water. If you reread my letter, I think you'll find
I'm already in agreement. (grin)
JudyDownMaine

 
  #1. -  Rule of Gold 
  #2. -  Golden Rule
 I choose 2. Do you?

-Original Message-
From: 123 456 [mailto:whiteol...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:13 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSArthritis - what causes inflammation?


Hi Judy,
It is taught that the major cause of inflammation in a body is from a
too acidic Ph system.
Acid burns, acidic reactions etc cause the cartilege in the joints to
disintegrate as also the rest of th body does in an 'acid wash'.
The first thing to try would be to stop all white sugars and phosphate
drinks .
 No tea, coffee or milk.
Milk is a mucous forming liquid and causes many problems too, more
than I can go into here.
It is usually recommended to drink a small squeeze of fresh lemon in
your glasses of water.
That will balance out the Ph and start to help help clear any fatty
deposits in the liver.
I assume that the water is either distilled pure water or spring.
(Yes, I know, now I am opening a huge discussion on distilled water. .
.  later).
When the fresh lemon hits the stomach it turns the system into a more
alkaine environment.
Don't ask me for the chemistry on this I would have to find my old
text books for that.  I'm sure it's probably somewhere on the web
tho'.
That's for basic starters.
The next thing I would suggest is to look up Robert Von Sarbrucher on the
web.
(Since we now know that these notes are being reposted by some lazy
lurkers I am reluctant to do the work for them.)
Also, you will find many links to some really useful and enlightening
material up there on the web so I don't want to limit your fun of
discovery either.
If you are really stuck tho' then email me offline and I'll do my best
to find some good links for you to explore.
The raw food diets don't need to be complicated or hard.
 In fact, raw salads and greens every day is one of the very best
gentle detoxes you can do for yourself especially in the hot weather.
Talk whenever you wish. This is just a start.
Be well.
Tara
www.whiteol...@gmail.com

On 5/29/12, Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 I've noticed an enormous number of arthritis emails and avoided them, so
I
 may be repeating
 and off-base for the discussion, but I do have a question. What might
cause
 inflammation?
 From my own experience, something my body is reacting to, trying to get
rid
 of, or protect me from.
 My aches and pains pretty much left me when I began to avoid the things I
 traditionally NEVER ran
 out of when purchasing foods-- probably personal allergies (?) to me, but
 common to many humans:
 nightshades, milk products, beef, wheat, alcohol, sugar.
 Just as important, I began paying attention to being chronically
dehydrated.
 Now age 76, I only feel really good
 when I;m drinking enough water -- half my pound-weight in ounces per day.
A
 very pale lemon-color urine
 is a sign I'm on the right track. Anything darker is a warning.
 Judydownmaine







 -Original Message-
 From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:38 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSArthritis




 Sol,
 How did you manage to reduce the arthritic nodes?
 Thanks,
 Paula

 -Original Message-
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
Sent: May 28, 2012 1:16 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSArthritis

123 456 wrote:
 Hi Guys,
 one thing I thought someone would have mentioned by now is to please
 avoid the tea, (black Orange Pekoe type) coffe, if you can (very
 addictive that caffein) and milk.
 Of course no one is eating white sugar any more are they?
 When I stopped with all of the above, my so-called arthritis cleared
 and healed within two weeks.

Actually, I am eating sugar, yes, white sugar even. And drink LOTS of
coffee and tea, lots of dairy. My  blood sugar control has improved
tremendously. My fingers have improved tremendously, with the arthritic
nodes hugely reduced. Unfortunately my index fingers are still a bit
twisted, but that stopped progressing as well. www.raypeat.com

Definitely the road less travelled, LOL.
sol


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RE: CSArthritis - what causes inflammation?

[Judy Knowlton]

Also true!
JDM

-Original Message-
From: PTFerrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSArthritis - what causes inflammation?


However I have also read that you can drink all the water you want but if you 
don't have the right minerals in your body... including sodium... it will go 
right through and not do you any good.
PT

-Original Message-
From: Judy Knowlton [mailto:judydownma...@roadrunner.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 7:45 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSArthritis - what causes inflammation?


I've noticed an enormous number of arthritis emails and avoided them, so I may 
be repeating
and off-base for the discussion, but I do have a question. What might cause 
inflammation? 
From my own experience, something my body is reacting to, trying to get rid 
of, or protect me from.
My aches and pains pretty much left me when I began to avoid the things I 
traditionally NEVER ran 
out of when purchasing foods-- probably personal allergies (?) to me, but 
common to many humans: 
nightshades, milk products, beef, wheat, alcohol, sugar.  
Just as important, I began paying attention to being chronically dehydrated. 
Now age 76, I only feel really good 
when I;m drinking enough water -- half my pound-weight in ounces per day. A 
very pale lemon-color urine
is a sign I'm on the right track. Anything darker is a warning.
Judydownmaine
 


 



-Original Message-
From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:38 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSArthritis




Sol,
How did you manage to reduce the arthritic nodes?
Thanks,
Paula

-Original Message-
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
Sent: May 28, 2012 1:16 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSArthritis

123 456 wrote:
 Hi Guys,
 one thing I thought someone would have mentioned by now is to please
 avoid the tea, (black Orange Pekoe type) coffe, if you can (very
 addictive that caffein) and milk.
 Of course no one is eating white sugar any more are they?
 When I stopped with all of the above, my so-called arthritis cleared
 and healed within two weeks.
   
Actually, I am eating sugar, yes, white sugar even. And drink LOTS of 
coffee and tea, lots of dairy. My  blood sugar control has improved 
tremendously. My fingers have improved tremendously, with the arthritic 
nodes hugely reduced. Unfortunately my index fingers are still a bit 
twisted, but that stopped progressing as well. www.raypeat.com

Definitely the road less travelled, LOL.
sol


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RE: CSSilver PH --A CASE HISTORY ON H20

[Judy Knowlton]

I discovered I was chronically dehydrated 4 years
ago at age 72) and decided to follow the rule:
Halve your weight;
Divide by eight;
Drink those glasses
and meditate.
At 168 pounds I take basic supplements and
vitamins, low on sugar and milk products, no beef,
high on fish, no alcohol for 42 years,
and drink 10 8-oz glasses of water per day -- half
before noon.
In the past 4 years, blood pressure down, eyesight
improved, memory better, sleeping better, only
minor aches and pains,
attitude more positive, lost over 50 pounds (not
dieting) .
I sat with 3 other 76 year old women at my kitchen
table just this morning.
2 had cancer operations, one with eyesight
difficulties, a rod in the brain for severe
tremors, all with aches and pains, hobbling along.
None really overweight. I've known them for 32 to
76 years.
Oh yeah -- and I make my own CS, use when
necessary (not often)
Why the difference?
Judy Down Maine

 -Original Message-
From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 1:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver  PH



I emailed the web site and have not heard back; I
don't really expect to.


But Dr. Shallenberger's book Bursting with
Energy is on Amazon, and Amazon allows a preview
of the book.


The chapter on water indicates your should drink a
quarter to a half ounce of water for each pound of
body weight.  (eg. a 200lb person would consume
50-100 ounces per day)


This sounds much more reasonable than 3-6 gallons
per day!


-Alan



On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Tony Moody
a...@new.co.za wrote:

  Don't know but that amount seems awfully high.
An american quart is about a litre so 12 litres
  would be way too much in my book . Round about 2
litres on average would be a good
  ballpark. Errm maybe it should be 2 quarts , not
12 ??

  Why not ask them ?

  Tony

  On 17 May 2012 at 6:21, Alan Jones wrote about :

  Subject : Re: CSSilver  PH

   Thanks Tony.  I found the following web site
of his.  This sounds insane
   to me -- how is this even possible?  Could it
be a typo??
  
   http://www.burstingwithenergy.net/water.php
  
   · Every adult should drink at least 12 quarts
per day of purified water.
   On hot days or when exercising, twice that
amount may be needed.


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RE: CSarthritis-- May I interrupt for a question?

[Judy Knowlton]

I must admit I've been glossing over (deleting) arthritis emails here
because I've been pain-free for so long. Can I assume you've covered the
basic foods to avoid like the night-shades (potatoes, tomatoes, green peppers,
eggplant, paprika ... and  (ahem) cheddar cheese?) 
JudyDownMaine
And drinking sufficient water? I figure half my pound weight is the number of 
ounces
to drink each day.  I put a splash of apple cider vinegar in each 8 ounces.
If I change this regimen, my ankles, knees, etc. start talking back. I'm 76.

 
 -Original Message-
From: Maple Springs Farm [mailto:i...@maplesprings.com]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 11:22 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSarthritis


i just ordered some msm (powdered form) 
i'm dying to try it... 
i've been reading a lot of good things about it 
how much do you put in jane? 
and what brand do you use? 

Maple Springs Farm 
Farm Store - Maple Syrup, Custom Embroidery, Etched Glass, Shoo-fly pie, Funny 
Cake Pie, Emu Oil, Dog Art Prints, Handmade Soap and More... 
http://www.maplesprings.com 
On-Line Cookbook 
http://www.maplespringsfarm.com 

-- Original Message --- 
From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:51:07 +1000 
Subject: Re: CSarthritis 

 I did too until DH begged for respite!  Now I put MSM in the water  he just 
 looks at me 

   From: Guyot Léna 
   
   
   Right! Lemons metabolize as alkaline. I drink water with fresh lemon juice 
all the time. L 
   
 
   
   On Apr 19, 2012, at 1:13 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote: 

   
   Oranges may give you arthritic pain - lemons wont 
 

--- End of Original Message --- 

RE: CSarthritis-- May I interrupt for a question?

[Judy Knowlton]

Well, I quit smoking in 1963 --(2-3 packs a day.) Probably a good idea, eh?
I am convinced that, for many, inflammation is caused by food allergies --
things one may not consider. For example, anything you absolutely never
run out of -- like milk products. Or chocolate, or coffee, or ... 
When I suggest to someone with continuous pain that they give up their
favorite  something for 2 weeks just to see if it's a culprit and they scream, 
I can be pretty sure we've hit on a problem! 
(I'm a recovering alcoholic of 42 years  and a retired addictions counselor .)

Isn't a primary issue inflammation? What is the body struggling to rebalance
from?  CS, which I make with my silver puppy, use when necessary, and
share with others, is not my usual thought for arthritis. Has to be a living 
something causing the problem for CS to work --virus, bacterium, yeast or
mold. 
Judydown Maine
 

___
~ Will you choose ~
the  Rule of Gold 
or the Golden Rule?
I choose to love All. 

-Original Message-
From: Maple Springs Farm [mailto:i...@maplesprings.com]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 12:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSarthritis-- May I interrupt for a question?


not sure if you are around smokers but 
tobacco is in nightshade family too 

Maple Springs Farm 
Farm Store - Maple Syrup, Custom Embroidery, Etched Glass, Shoo-fly pie, Funny 
Cake Pie, Emu Oil, Dog Art Prints, Handmade Soap and More... 
http://www.maplesprings.com 
On-Line Cookbook 
http://www.maplespringsfarm.com 

-- Original Message --- 
From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:22:24 -0500 
Subject: Re: CSarthritis-- May I interrupt for a question? 

  
 Thanks for your input, I guess I'm at that point where I am going to have to 
 get serious about the diet, I love all the night=shade veggies and (ahem) 
 cheddar cheese.  To get out of this misery, I'm ready to do anything. 
 Thanks...Kathy 

   - Original Message - 
   From: Judy Knowlton 
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
   Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 10:36 AM 
   Subject: RE: CSarthritis-- May I interrupt for a question? 
   
   I must admit I've been glossing over (deleting) arthritis emails here 
   because I've been pain-free for so long. Can I assume you've covered the 
   basic foods to avoid like the night-shades (potatoes, tomatoes, green 
peppers, 
   eggplant, paprika ... and  (ahem) cheddar cheese?) 
   JudyDownMaine 
   And drinking sufficient water? I figure half my pound weight is the number 
of ounces 
   to drink each day.  I put a splash of apple cider vinegar in each 8 ounces. 
   If I change this regimen, my ankles, knees, etc. start talking back. I'm 
76. 
 
 
-Original Message- 
   From: Maple Springs Farm [mailto:i...@maplesprings.com] 
   Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 11:22 AM 
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
   Subject: Re: CSarthritis 
   
   i just ordered some msm (powdered form) 
   i'm dying to try it... 
   i've been reading a lot of good things about it 
   how much do you put in jane? 
   and what brand do you use? 
   
   Maple Springs Farm 
   Farm Store - Maple Syrup, Custom Embroidery, Etched Glass, Shoo-fly pie, 
Funny 
   Cake Pie, Emu Oil, Dog Art Prints, Handmade Soap and More... 
   http://www.maplesprings.com 
   On-Line Cookbook 
   http://www.maplespringsfarm.com 
   
   -- Original Message --- 
   From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net 
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
   Sent: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:51:07 +1000 
   Subject: Re: CSarthritis 
   
I did too until DH begged for respite!  Now I put MSM in the water  he 
just looks at me 

  From: Guyot Léna 
  
  
  Right! Lemons metabolize as alkaline. I drink water with fresh lemon 
juice all the time. L 
  

  
  On Apr 19, 2012, at 1:13 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote: 

  
  Oranges may give you arthritic pain - lemons wont 

 --- End of Original Message --- 
 

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CSFive fruits that can help with arthritis

[Judy Knowlton]

www.naturalhealthontheweb.com/arthritis-2012/5-fruits-that-fight-arthritis


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RE: CSarthritis-- May I interrupt for a question?

[Judy Knowlton]

I agree whole-heartedly with Sara.  Judy Down Maine

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~ Will you choose ~
the  Rule of Gold 
or the Golden Rule?
I choose to love All. 

-Original Message-
From: Sara Mandal-Joy [mailto:smjl...@wavewls.com]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 1:29 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSarthritis-- May I interrupt for a question?


You should know that that prescription is not universally effective - it 
works for some folks, others not at all.
Certainly worth a serious try.  But be aware your mileage may vary.  Some folks 
actually use hot red peppers to lessen their pain - I'm one of those.I 
religiously did the complete night-shade avoidance diet, with no benefit 
whatsoever.   So different strokes for different folks - for those it does 
work, it seems to work well, and be easily testable by trying a minor inclusion 
at some point after symptoms have initially improved.  You'll be able to tell 
if you are one who will be helped by this diet or not.   Sara


  Thanks for your input, I guess I'm at that point where I am going to have to 
get serious about the diet, I love all the night=shade veggies and (ahem) 
cheddar cheese.  To get out of this misery, I'm ready to do anything. 
Thanks...Kathy
- Original Message - 
From: Judy Knowlton 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: CSarthritis-- May I interrupt for a question?


I must admit I've been glossing over (deleting) arthritis emails here
because I've been pain-free for so long. Can I assume you've covered the
basic foods to avoid like the night-shades (potatoes, tomatoes, green 
peppers,
eggplant, paprika ... and  (ahem) cheddar cheese?) 
JudyDownMaine
And drinking sufficient water? I figure half my pound weight is the number 
of ounces
to drink each day.  I put a splash of apple cider vinegar in each 8 ounces.
If I change this regimen, my ankles, knees, etc. start talking back. I'm 76.


 -Original Message-
From: Maple Springs Farm [mailto:i...@maplesprings.com]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 11:22 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSarthritis


i just ordered some msm (powdered form) 
i'm dying to try it... 
i've been reading a lot of good things about it 
how much do you put in jane? 
and what brand do you use? 

Maple Springs Farm 
Farm Store - Maple Syrup, Custom Embroidery, Etched Glass, Shoo-fly pie, 
Funny 
Cake Pie, Emu Oil, Dog Art Prints, Handmade Soap and More... 
http://www.maplesprings.com 
On-Line Cookbook 
http://www.maplespringsfarm.com 

-- Original Message --- 
From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:51:07 +1000 
Subject: Re: CSarthritis 

 I did too until DH begged for respite!  Now I put MSM in the water  he 
just looks at me 

   From: Guyot Léna 
   
   
   Right! Lemons metabolize as alkaline. I drink water with fresh lemon 
juice all the time. L 
   
 
   
   On Apr 19, 2012, at 1:13 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote: 

   
   Oranges may give you arthritic pain - lemons wont 

--- End of Original Message --- 

RE: CS(LL) Anyone know the best site for info on coconut oil ?

[Judy Knowlton]

Puritan Pride (puritan.com) has organic extra virgin coconut oil -- no
odor or taste -- nice for cooking, especially something light like
scrambled eggs -- pan stays clean.
Judydownmaine

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the  Rule of Gold 
or the Golden Rule?
I choose to love All.

-Original Message-
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS(LL) Anyone know the best site for info on coconut oil ?


You shouldn't give up butter because it is a very healthy fat and contains
a lot of essential vitamins.  dee


On 24 Mar 2012, at 23:16, PTFerrance wrote:


 Hi
 Lois,

 I
 checked out oleolux as I had never heard of it before.  It looks good but
I would sorely miss butter as I like the sweet taste of it on things like
whole grain hot cereals and I have to be careful with onions and garlic as
I have turned up a food sensitivity to them in the past.  I’m glad it
serves you well.



 One
 thing I saw on the site, I believe, was that the supreme coconut oil is
for taking unheated and they have one that is one grade down that is used
for cooking.



 I’m
 glad you are doing better.

 Blessings,
 PT









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RE: CSParkinson's disease

[Judy Knowlton]

I have a hunch that some Parkinson's is the result
of long-term,
unrecognized food allergy -- perhaps especially
milk.
Juydownmaine
___
 HEY, GOP! Check 1946 tax rates
Top bracket 94%-personal income
Top bracket 77%-on capital gains.
WHY? PAYING FOR World War II.
INSIST the rich pay for our wars in
Afghanistan and Iraq. Isn't that how
they took 40% of our country's $$?



-Original Message-
From: Rodney Samuelson
[mailto:rsamuels...@cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:19 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSParkinson's disease


Can CS help?

RE: CSLyme disease --Thoughts on illness and CS

[Judy Knowlton]

I agree with you --large amounts of CS only very
short term. Imbalance comes in a myriad forms!
D3 of course
Whose propolis do you use, and why?
Judy K

___
Time to tax the rich yet? You mean
to pay for 2 wars begun at the very
same time they got their tax cuts?
So we could acquire a massive debt
we can't deal with 10 years later?
Now here's a truly brilliant solution!
Let's subtract from the poor instead.
Who in hell thunk up that?   Hmm?

-Original Message-
From: D Glover [mailto:mothman...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 9:49 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lee Williams
Subject: Re: CSLyme disease --Thoughts on illness
and CS





On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:47 AM, D Glover
mothman...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Judy, I get almost 100% results against cold
and flu with one capsule of propolis a day, which
is proven to give 82% preventative value against
these diseases. Since starting using that I also
began to use Vit D3 every day, several thousand
micrograms a day, and that has really strengthened
that effect. On the extremely rare occasions where
I even start to get a mild runny nose or sneezes,
it is because I have stopped using the propolis
for a week or two, and simply having a couple of
capsules of propolis clears the runny nose up
overnight like magic. I read recently that
antibiotics can possibly damage the immune system
by killing off certain strains of bacteria in the
gut. I can confirm that that can happen, as I also
used a litre of CS a day for a while, and gave
myself sterile gut syndrome, so I would recommend
to you that you don't use so much CS as it will
kill anything it touches, good bacteria and bad.
People usually think it does not touch good
bacteria, but this is because you have a couple of
pounds in the gut, so small amounts of CS won't
cause any noticeable damage to them, to replenish
my bacteria I used Kiki Soil Based Organisms, an
extremely good product with good clinical testing,
and am completely back to full function in this
regard now.

  Dave Glover.


  On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Judy Knowlton
judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:

.
It seems to me we often use too LITTLE CS to
really wipe out the offending bug.
Recently my granddaughter -- age 14 -- gave
me a bad ccough, that turned into
bronchitis, or perhaps even bronchial
pneumonia. She had the cough for almost 2 months
before getting well, Friends in my Maine town
have had the same experience.
I had a temp of 101 and decided low doses of
CS were futile. (I consider CS to be a
mild medicine.)  So I quickly worked up to a
quart a day (1/4 cup 8 times in the day)
and broke the fever by evening. I did one more
day at that amount. Although the cough took
a month to really disappear, the illness
itself was over
Judy Down Maine


___
Time to tax the rich yet? You mean
to pay for 2 wars begun at the very
same time they got their tax cuts?
So we could acquire a massive debt
we can't deal with 10 years later?
Now here's a truly brilliant solution!
Let's subtract from the poor instead.
Who in hell thunk up that?   Hmm?

-Original Message-
From: Rodney Samuelson
[mailto:rsamuels...@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 3:29 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lee Williams
Subject: CSLyme disease


I have taken CS since June and make my own.  I
consume 8 oz per day at 15 parts per million and
continue to have problems with Lyme.  I will stay
taking it as antibiotics do not work and 18 years
of it make me a non-believer in antibiotics.  Any
suggestions??



Rod  cell 860-881-3734

RE: CSLyme disease --Thoughts on illness and CS

[Judy Knowlton]

.
It seems to me we often use too LITTLE CS to
really wipe out the offending bug.
Recently my granddaughter -- age 14 -- gave me a
bad ccough, that turned into
bronchitis, or perhaps even bronchial pneumonia.
She had the cough for almost 2 months
before getting well, Friends in my Maine town have
had the same experience.
I had a temp of 101 and decided low doses of CS
were futile. (I consider CS to be a
mild medicine.)  So I quickly worked up to a quart
a day (1/4 cup 8 times in the day)
and broke the fever by evening. I did one more day
at that amount. Although the cough took
a month to really disappear, the illness itself
was over
Judy Down Maine


___
Time to tax the rich yet? You mean
to pay for 2 wars begun at the very
same time they got their tax cuts?
So we could acquire a massive debt
we can't deal with 10 years later?
Now here's a truly brilliant solution!
Let's subtract from the poor instead.
Who in hell thunk up that?   Hmm?

-Original Message-
From: Rodney Samuelson
[mailto:rsamuels...@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 3:29 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lee Williams
Subject: CSLyme disease


I have taken CS since June and make my own.  I
consume 8 oz per day at 15 parts per million and
continue to have problems with Lyme.  I will stay
taking it as antibiotics do not work and 18 years
of it make me a non-believer in antibiotics.  Any
suggestions??



Rod  cell 860-881-3734

CSA serious question re potassium and iron and CS

[Judy Knowlton]

Has anyone experienced an obvious drop in potassium
or iron blood levels while taking CS?
Judydownmaine 


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CSHello, all ?? Lyme Disease??

[Judy Knowlton]

I'm returning to you after several years away.
I am a believer in the efficacy of CS and use 
as needed -- donate to friends -- have a Silver Puppy.
I have just gotten a tick bite that looked like
an ordinary large bug (attached to my leg) but 2 days 
later it is still red-- and I live in rural Maine. 
What do you suggest for treatment?
Thanks.  Relieved to be back!
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RE: CSHello, all ?? Lyme Disease??

[Judy Knowlton]

So you don't think CS can handle it? H.
However -- I'm willing to listen! Are you both
recovering
Lymers?
JDM

___
Time to tax the rich yet? You mean
to pay for 2 wars begun at the very
same time they got their tax cuts?
So we could acquire a massive debt
we can't deal with 10 years later?
Now here's a truly brilliant solution!
Let's subtract from the poor instead.
Who in hell thunk up that?   Hmm?

-Original Message-
From: Paul Steel [mailto:pste...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 1:45 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHello, all ?? Lyme Disease??


I would personally take at least 400mg a day of
doxy for 2 months


Paul





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Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: CSHello, all ?? Lyme Disease??

You must IMMEDIATELY start a course of Doxycycline
(100mg twice a day is the usual recommendation).
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/786767-treat
ment
Not sure how long to stay on it - usually just a
few days, I think.  Ask your doc.

Del

-Original Message- From: Judy Knowlton
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 1:20 PM
To: Silver list
Subject: CSHello, all ?? Lyme Disease??

I'm returning to you after several years away.
I am a believer in the efficacy of CS and use
as needed -- donate to friends -- have a Silver
Puppy.
I have just gotten a tick bite that looked like
an ordinary large bug (attached to my leg) but 2
days
later it is still red-- and I live in rural Maine.
What do you suggest for treatment?
Thanks.  Relieved to be back!
JudyDownMaine



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RE: CSHello, all ?? Lyme Disease??

[Judy Knowlton]

Hey, Paul -- interesting pen-slip -- Sane, Same...
JK

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Time to tax the rich yet? You mean
to pay for 2 wars begun at the very
same time they got their tax cuts?
So we could acquire a massive debt
we can't deal with 10 years later?
Now here's a truly brilliant solution!
Let's subtract from the poor instead.
Who in hell thunk up that?   Hmm?

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From: Paul [mailto:pste...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 4:09 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHello, all ?? Lyme Disease??


Sane here. Dont mess around with Lyme

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 1, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Rodney Samuelson
rsamuels...@cox.net wrote:


  Recovering is what I am trying to..




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  From: Judy Knowlton
[mailto:judydownma...@roadrunner.com]
  Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 3:55 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CSHello, all ?? Lyme Disease??



  So you don't think CS can handle it? H.

  However -- I'm willing to listen! Are you both
recovering

  Lymers?

  JDM



  ___
  Time to tax the rich yet? You mean
  to pay for 2 wars begun at the very
  same time they got their tax cuts?
  So we could acquire a massive debt
  we can't deal with 10 years later?
  Now here's a truly brilliant solution!
  Let's subtract from the poor instead.
  Who in hell thunk up that?   Hmm?

  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Steel [mailto:pste...@yahoo.com]
  Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 1:45 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSHello, all ?? Lyme Disease??

  I would personally take at least 400mg a day of
doxy for 2 months



  Paul






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  From: Del d...@altsystem.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 1:43 PM
  Subject: Re: CSHello, all ?? Lyme Disease??

  You must IMMEDIATELY start a course of
Doxycycline (100mg twice a day is the usual
recommendation).
  http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/786767-tre
atment
  Not sure how long to stay on it - usually just a
few days, I think.  Ask your doc.

  Del

  -Original Message- From: Judy Knowlton
  Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 1:20 PM
  To: Silver list
  Subject: CSHello, all ?? Lyme Disease??

  I'm returning to you after several years away.
  I am a believer in the efficacy of CS and use
  as needed -- donate to friends -- have a Silver
Puppy.
  I have just gotten a tick bite that looked like
  an ordinary large bug (attached to my leg) but 2
days
  later it is still red-- and I live in rural
Maine.
  What do you suggest for treatment?
  Thanks.  Relieved to be back!
  JudyDownMaine



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RE: CSOT - dementia updates

[Judy Knowlton]

Google dementia nutritional treatments and you'll find lots to read/
JDM

___
Time to tax the rich yet? You mean
to pay for 2 wars begun at the very
same time they got their tax cuts?
So we could acquire a massive debt
we can't deal with 10 years later?
Now here's a truly brilliant solution!
Let's subtract from the poor instead.
Who in hell thunk up that?   Hmm?

-Original Message-
From: Roger Barker [mailto:rbar...@clear.net.nz]
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 5:55 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT - dementia updates


Seems they've had great success with it but I can't comment as I've
had no experience using it. Just filed it away just in case.

Cheers, Roger B
NZ


On 1/10/2011, at 4:58 PM, Jane MacRoss wrote:

 Coconut oil?


 From: Roger Barker rbar...@clear.net.nz


 Check out this video. Seems to give hope where Alzheimer's is
concerned.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iScs0uzQZFk
 :

 I don't remember this discussion at all -- and it's vitally
important to me,
 as my brother is dealing with dementia.  So I hope that whoever has
this
 information will please share it.
 MA


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RE: CSWho Owns the Deer ?

[Judy Knowlton]

It's not the moths themselves - only their droppings.
Moth guano?  d;-)
Judy Down Maine


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-Original Message-
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
[mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:41 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWho Owns the Deer ?

Must be expensive!
Do you have any idea how many moths it takes to make a
50# bag of
mothballs???


   
 Chuck
The statement below is true.
The statement above is false.

On 7/2/2008 10:50:58 AM, Marshall Dudley
(mdud...@king-cart.com)
wrote:
 Acmeair wrote:
 
 
   Moth Balls.   You can buy this in a 50 pound bag I
think.
 
 

 Which ones should I get, the paradichlorobenzene
ones, or the napthalene
 ones?

 Marshall

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RE: CSMagic of Growing. Other Real World Problems

[Judy Knowlton]

Certainly not the deer!
JDM

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-Original Message-
From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwa...@netdoor.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:43 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSMagic of Growing. Other Real World Problems

Good Evening Mike,

At 07:00 AM 7/1/2008, you wrote:
  Wayne, what state do you live in? Jess
Ummm, bliss?
Glad to see  you have a little time for the list.

Often it could win an award for Variety.

I hate to talk so much about growing, but seems several are
interested.

Likely today it is more important than ever and does have an
effect on
our health.

The store prices are awful, and the quality is poor.

 If anyone has a window sill, a deck or a patio, they can
grow
something for sure.

  Adequate sunlight is a requirement, even I can not grow
without it.

  It can be so simple it is amazing, when a few basics are
done right.

  After the basics, one can play with the more technical
stuff, if they
desire.

  Plants and animals have always amazed me at their
intelligence.

  The deer are giving me problems and I have never liked to
hunt at night.

   But when they start walking over and breaking my
cantaloupe and
watermelon vines, I get upset.  Not to mention they are eating
the peas and
soon the corn.

I am looking into the very best and somewhat expensive light for
my
favorite rifle.

Generally I set up a clock and observe it a few nights so I know
what time
they decide to visit
my field.

Am considering a Barking Dog sound producer.  So far until
recently the
moth balls and a few other tricks have kept them out.

Oh well .. who expected the world to be perfect ?

Wayne

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RE: CSMagic of Growing. Other Real World Problems

[Judy Knowlton]

Do any of you have severe arthritis?

__
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-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMagic of Growing. Other Real World Problems

My son's area is infested with deer. It is not unusual for him to
see as
many a 7 deer in his backyard at once, and it is unusual when we
visit
for us to not see at least one deer while there.  The only way we
have
been able to deal with them is to only plant nightshades, they
leave
them alone. That pretty well limits our garden to things like
tomatoes
and potatoes.

Marshall

Faith Gagne wrote:
 Wayne,  We cannot  put food out in the fields and expect hungry
 animals to leave it alone.  None of those wild animals go home
to
 dinner at 6 pm every night.  Or any night.  We could put up a
no
 trespassing sign, but I don't think it would help.  The human
is
 supposed to be the one with the most smarts, so what is the
answer?
 What is the responsible thing to do to protect
 crops?   Put up a fence.  Or plant somewhere else.  I hope no
one is
 shooting deer.  Faith G.



 - Original Message - From: Wayne
 Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July
 01, 2008 12:42 PM
 Subject: CSMagic of Growing. Other Real World Problems


 Good Evening Mike,

 At 07:00 AM 7/1/2008, you wrote:
  Wayne,
 what state do you live in? Jess
 Ummm, bliss?
Glad to see  you have a
 little time for the list.

Often it could win an award for Variety.

I hate to talk so much about growing, but seems several are
 interested.

Likely today it is more important than ever and does have
an
 effect on
 our health.

The store prices are awful, and the quality
 is poor.

 If anyone has a window sill, a deck or a patio, they can
 grow
 something for sure.

  Adequate sunlight is a requirement,
 even I can not grow without it.

  It can be so simple it is
 amazing, when a few basics are done right.

  After the basics, one can
 play with the more technical stuff, if they
 desire.

  Plants and
 animals have always amazed me at their intelligence.

  The deer are
 giving me problems and I have never liked to hunt at
 night.


 But when they start walking over and breaking my cantaloupe and

 watermelon vines, I get upset.  Not to mention they are eating
the peas
 and
 soon the corn.

 I am looking into the very best and somewhat expensive
 light for my
 favorite rifle.

 Generally I set up a clock and observe
 it a few nights so I know what time
 they decide to visit
 my field.

 Am considering a Barking Dog sound producer.  So far until
recently
 the moth balls and a few other tricks have kept them out.

 Oh well
 .. who expected the world to be perfect ?

 Wayne


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RE: CSMagic of Growing. Other Real World Problems

[Judy Knowlton]

Just wondered - a diet high in potatoes and tomatoes might cause
problems

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-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMagic of Growing. Other Real World Problems

Judy Knowlton wrote:
 Do any of you have severe arthritis?

Not any more.

Marshall
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 -Original Message-
 From: Marshall Dudley
  [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:51 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSMagic of Growing. Other Real World Problems

 My son's area is
  infested with deer. It is not unusual for him to
 see as
 many a 7 deer in his
  backyard at once, and it is unusual when we
 visit
 for us to not see at
  least one deer while there.  The only way we
 have
 been able to deal with them
  is to only plant nightshades, they
 leave
 them alone. That pretty well
  limits our garden to things like
 tomatoes
 and potatoes.

 Marshall

 Faith
  Gagne wrote:

 Wayne,  We cannot  put food out in the fields and expect

  hungry

 animals to leave it alone.  None of those wild animals go home

 to

  dinner at 6 pm every night.  Or any night.  We could put up a
 no

  trespassing sign, but I don't think it would help.  The human
 is

 supposed to

  be the one with the most smarts, so what is the
 answer?

 What is the

  responsible thing to do to protect

 crops?   Put up a fence.  Or plant

  somewhere else.  I hope no
 one is

 shooting deer.  Faith G.



 -

  Original Message - From: Wayne

 Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com
 To:

  silver-list@eskimo.com

 Sent: Tuesday, July
 01, 2008 12:42 PM
 Subject:

  CSMagic of Growing. Other Real World Problems


 Good Evening Mike,

 At 07:00 AM 7/1/2008, you wrote:

 Wayne,

 what state do you

  live in? Jess

 Ummm, bliss?

Glad to see  you have a

 little time

  for the list.

Often it could win an award for Variety.



   I hate to talk so much about growing, but seems several are

 interested.

Likely today it is more important than ever and does have

 an

  effect on

 our health.

The store prices are awful, and the

  quality

 is poor.

 If anyone has a window sill, a deck or a patio,

  they can

 grow

 something for sure.

  Adequate sunlight is a

  requirement,

 even I can not grow without it.

  It can be so

  simple it is

 amazing, when a few basics are done right.

  After

  the basics, one can

 play with the more technical stuff, if they

  desire.

  Plants and

 animals have always amazed me at their

  intelligence.

  The deer are

 giving me problems and I have never

  liked to hunt at

 night.



 But when they start walking over and

  breaking my cantaloupe and

 watermelon vines, I get upset.  Not to

  mention they are eating
 the peas

 and

 soon the corn.

 I am looking

  into the very best and somewhat expensive

 light for my

 favorite rifle.

 Generally I set up a clock and observe

 it a few nights so I know

  what time

 they decide to visit
 my field.

 Am considering a

  Barking Dog sound producer.  So far until
 recently

 the moth balls and a

  few other tricks have kept them out.

 Oh well

 .. who

  expected the world to be perfect ?

 Wayne



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RE: CSColour again

[Judy Knowlton]

What two bottles? How were they treated? Washed? Where did they
come from?
Judy Down Maine

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-Original Message-
From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 12:27 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSColour again

I still seem to be having trouble with getting my CS clear.  It
seems to go yellow after two days, so it seems I am going to have
to buy new bottles to put it in.  I can't understand it because
the first batch I did was perfect, and the glass container which
I brew it in; I left a bit in the bottom of this and this was
clear, yet the *same* stuff I poured into two bottles has gone
yellow.  I will still use it as I know it is ok, it just bugs me
that it has done this and I have to know *why* always!  Dee


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RE: CSCS colour -- warm water

[Judy Knowlton]

My silverpuppy has a lightbulb stirrer.  It warms
the water a little
What if you set a light bulb next to your jar? Is
that enough warmth?
My CS takes about 5 hours per quart. What’s the
big deal?
Judy Down Maine


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-Original Message-
From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:24 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS colour

Thanks Norm.  Unfortunately, my DW comes in 5ltr
bottles so I couldn't put the whole thing in as it
would probably compromise it if done repeatedly.
Then it means I would have to put it in another
container to warm it.  This is getting somewhat
complicated methinks!  I'll have to have another
think about it.  Many thanks.  Dee

---Original Message---

From: N Cameron mailto:e...@rogers.com
Date: 25/06/2008 12:10:46
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS colour

morning Dee
My distilled water comes in a plastic bottle ...I
put hot tap water in the stopped up sink and set
the bottle in it while I have a cuppa tea :O)
Norm

RE: CSBlood vessel health - Vit C and corn

[Judy Knowlton]

I have a friend who had that problem – a laser
solved it, since the bleed was always in the same
place.
Judy Down Maine

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-Original Message-
From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:15 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBlood vessel health - Vit C and
corn

You are right Nancy and he does do manual work,
but he does have these things often and just out
of the blue.  Like we were sitting in the lounge
and his eye was ok and then a while later I looked
and it had filled all one side with blood.  And
sometimes he wakes up with it.  It is always the
same eye as well.  Dee


It's possible to overlook the obvious.  My husband
had 2 eye
hemorrhages.   The first was when he was breaking
up a concrete patio
with a sledge hammer.  He also took a capsule of
140,000 Cayenne pepper
the same day.  Which would you blame?


Nancy


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RE: CSColor of CS now cloudy

[Judy Knowlton]

Are you wiping off your silver?
Judy

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-Original Message-
From: Mary Ellen Murphy
[mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 4:24 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSColor of CS now cloudy

When I started making the CS on Sat.  it was
clear, then I got a yellow batch and  now a cloudy
batch.  What is up.  Am I doing something wrong.
Does the silver wear out.   Don’t know .  Any help
would be appreciated.

Mary Ellen

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From: Rowena [mailto:new...@aapt.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:49 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSABX

Antibiotics
R

CSAny experience here with kidney cancer and CS?

[Judy Knowlton]

A friend with a slow-growing kidney cancer (age
70) cannot have the usual treatments because of
bad lungs.
Is there any experience or knowledge on this list?
Judy Down Maine




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RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson

[Judy Knowlton]

I have the #1 kit - works fine. The funnel is glass, so delicate.
JudyDownMaine



-Original Message-
From: Mary Ellen Murphy [mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 10:34 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson

I am borrowing one from a friend called the silver pulsar.  I was
also
wondering how much to take to start.  I am trying to figure out
what I need
to get with the silver puppy.  I understand that you need some
kind of
stirrer with it.  I don't know whether to get the #1 kit or #2.

Thanks
Mary Ellen

-Original Message-
From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 9:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson

yes, it does take quite awhile.  Which generator do you have?


On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:00 PM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote:

 I have been making CS all day and don't have  gallon yet.  Do
all
 generators take 2 hours to make 2 cups of silver.  This is not
as easy
 as is sounds.  Mary Ellen


 From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]


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RE: CSBatch Size Limitation -- making a quart or gallon

[Judy Knowlton]

I make a quart at a time. I have made a gallon
too, but the heat-stirrer is a little small to
balance a gallon jar.
I think, for gallon amounts, the magnetic stirrer
would be better. Ask Ode (Ken)  when you can reach
him.
Judy Down Maine


-Original Message-
From: Mary Ellen Murphy
[mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:17 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSBatch Size Limitation

Can you make more that 2 cups with the silver
puppy at a time.  I have tried to get in touch
with Ode but no reply.

Mary Ellen

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From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwa...@netdoor.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:49 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSBatch Size Limitation

Morning Faith,

At 07:53 AM 6/22/2008, you wrote:
That was my objection to the silver puppy...it
takes so long.  The generator I have now takes 3
hours to make one quart.  I could have gotten a
generator that makes a gallon but a quart is
enough.  Faith G.

  I do not understand what creates the batch size
limitation.

  I can make a 4 ounce batch, 8, 16, or 32 ounce
batch, and one gallon also.

  No doubt I could make a 2 gallon batch or even a
5 gallon batch.

  Maybe you can explain it.

  What would happen if you put the unit on a one
gallon jug ?

  Wayne

RE: CSNebulizing - what PPM? -- and what else?

[Judy Knowlton]

Jason - I don't know what Argentyn 23 and RO water are, but I wouldn't care
to inhale them!
I do know that using standard CS (about 10 ppm made with distilled water) is
clean and safe.
Friends and I have used it for lung and sinus infections, colds, sore
throats etc. with never a problem
of adverse reaction -- a minute or 2 every half-hour seems to be adequate
for lung infections. Breathing the steam through the nostrils deals with
sinus or a head cold. CS nosedrops snuffled in every 15 minutes for 2 hours
usually kills off the most tenacious cold.
Judy Down Maine


-Original Message-
From: Jason [mailto:ja...@bulldoghome.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 7:40 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNebulizing - what PPM?

Hi All,

I have a lung infection and lyme (probably the lyme that is infecting the
lungs).  A few weeks ago, I nebulized just 2 lungfulls of Argentyn 23
diluted 50-50 with RO water.  The PPM I estimate was about 11 - 12.  Minutes
later, I had very bad dizziness and disorientation.  This didn't last long,
but re-occurred every so often (many times a day).  The bouts of dizziness
carried on for a week.  After that, I was symptom free (no lung infection or
lyme symptoms) for a further 5 weeks, but now I am getting the lung
infection back.

Not wanting to have a repeat of the dizziness, I have got my old generator
out and I am making my own batch.  Question is - what PPM do others nebulize
at?  I think 11-12 was a bit too strong for me.

Thanks,
J.
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RE: CSNebulizing - what PPM?

[Judy Knowlton]

Thank you - logical deduction, Chuck
JDM

-Original Message-
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:50 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNebulizing - what PPM?

What comes to MY mind is that you were reacting to the die-off
products.(Herxheimer reaction)
I would have continued ingesting CS daily,(orally), as a prophylactic.

Chuck
Ignorance is bliss, but it'll never replace sex

On 6/18/2008 7:39:34 AM, Jason (ja...@bulldoghome.com) wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have a lung infection and lyme (probably the lyme that is infecting the
 lungs).  A few weeks ago, I nebulized just 2 lungfulls of Argentyn 23
 diluted 50-50 with RO water.  The PPM I estimate was about 11 - 12.
 Minutes
 later, I had very bad dizziness and disorientation.  This didn't last
long,
 but re-occurred every so often (many times a day).  The bouts of dizziness
 carried on for a week.  After that, I was symptom free (no lung infection
or
 lyme symptoms) for a further 5 weeks, but now I am getting the lung
 infection back.

 Not wanting to have a repeat of the dizziness, I have got my old generator
 out and I am making my own batch.  Question is - what PPM do others
nebulize
 at?  I think 11-12 was a bit too strong for me.

 Thanks,
 J.
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RE: CSVaccines and autism. -- Vets and multi-shots

[Judy Knowlton]

A friend took her English Spaniel to the Vet’s, who gave ALL shots on the
same visit.
The dog became very ill, lethargic, changed personality, I think a blood
disease -- etc.  The animal seemed totally overwhelmed. The Vet said not to
breed her anymore (she’d had only one litter.) Soon after, he told her that
this was becoming a somewhat common problem, and Vets were discussing
dropping the practice of multi-shots at a single visit. Her Vet already has
stopped. (He’s my cat’s doctor too, so I know the truth of that.)
I wonder if this isn’t something that needs to be researched in children.
Judy Down Maine


-Original Message-
From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 12:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSVaccines and autism.

I didn't think it said this at all. I thought it didn't dismiss this but
that the whole vaccine thing needed to be more thoroughly researched, with
*all* its components.  Being that mercury is a neurotoxin I still think that
the most likely cause.  Have you seen the Mercola video where it shows
mercury destroying nerve cells in a slug?  Dee

---Original Message---

From: Clayton Family mailto:clay...@skypoint.com
Date: 06/15/08 16:17:58
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSVaccines and autism.

The point was that it is not the mercury that is causing the problems.

On Jun 15, 2008, at 8:21 AM, bbanever wrote:

RE: CSHow to use site -- speak up in the subnject line!

[Judy Knowlton]

Mary Ellen - I have no ready answers for you myself, but
I believe the subject line is always the place to start. Your paragraph
below is a good question, but the Subject line?
Perhaps Help! I desperately need your expertise on Lyme..
For myself, besides this list, I suggest googling Lyme + colloidal silver
and
Lyme + alternative treatments
Judy Down Maine

My 5-years-ago conclusions:
1.) Learned to make my own CS
2.) Researched the internet again and again (still do)
3.) Read everything the list says about CS
4.) Discovered that CS is safe and effective
5.) Experimented within some self-determined boundries with self and friends
6.)  Recently bought a Silverpuppy CS generator (it turns itself off)
7.)  Lived happily ever after .


-Original Message-
From: Mary Ellen Murphy [mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:55 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSHow to use site

I have posed a question.  This is the third time.  Most forums have
different way to stay on top of questions.  But here goes again.  I have
Lyme.  I wss referred to this site from Wolf Creek who supplies diatamatious
earth, and the terminator zappper, and colloidal silver.  Someone there has
been on this forum and has said that she has worked with people that have
Lyme and use these products.  Anyone had success.  I a pretty sick and sorry
for the impatience.  I am desperate.  The Lyme is ruining my life and need a
good protocol to and wondering if anyone has used these products with Lyme
with success.

Thanks
Mary Ellen

-Original Message-
From: oha...@juno.com [mailto:oha...@juno.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:06 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHow to use site

The site you are in touch with - silver-list@eskimo.com - the archives
are down so all you have
to do is to pose a question on what you would like information on and
there are many of us
here ready to assist -
Regards
Sandee

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