Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list
Hello, I do not have a computer so cannot interact much. I had the ear infection - still not gone, but better. I am looking into higher dose Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) and oxygen therapies. I do want to comment on things I found that helped other than CS: Probiotics Vitamin C Oregano oil (Mediterranean) For anyone with serious health issues I recommend a RAW FOODS diet. After probiotics, one should go on a raw foods (og) diet; after some time on this, if your problem does not clear, go to other therapies. On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote: Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- systemic. I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water. Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else? There are no markets anymore-just interventions. --Chris Powell On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent years video testimonials have been posted here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. Victor
Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list
How does this compare with berberine? Olushola On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Vigilius Haufniensis concept.of.dr...@gmail.com wrote: Don't waste your time with other stuff. Get some Gymnema Sylvestre. If you want the pill form, get it from Standard Process. On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote: Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- systemic. I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water. Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else? There are no markets anymore-just interventions. --Chris Powell On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent years video testimonials have been posted here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. Victor
Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list
I think it's another of those things to be approached with caution as it can interfere with blood sugar levels I believeDee Sent from my iPad On 9 Mar 2015, at 04:32, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone here know more about Gymnema Sylvestre or have any experiences to share? I am very curious, as I never stumbled across it before. A quick search on the Internet shows tons of information, but I am also interested in this groups opinions or experiences. Victor On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Vigilius Haufniensis concept.of.dr...@gmail.com wrote: Don't waste your time with other stuff. Get some Gymnema Sylvestre. If you want the pill form, get it from Standard Process. On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote: Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- systemic. I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water. Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else? There are no markets anymore-just interventions. --Chris Powell On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent years video testimonials have been posted here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. Victor
Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list
Don't waste your time with other stuff. Get some Gymnema Sylvestre. If you want the pill form, get it from Standard Process. On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote: Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- systemic. I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water. Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else? There are no markets anymore-just interventions. --Chris Powell On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent years video testimonials have been posted here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. Victor
Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list
are you saying Gymnema Sylvestre is really good for candida?? thanksPaul From: Vigilius Haufniensis concept.of.dr...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2015 5:37 PM Subject: Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list Don't waste your time with other stuff. Get some Gymnema Sylvestre. If you want the pill form, get it from Standard Process. On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote: Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- systemic.I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water.Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else? There are no markets anymore-just interventions. --Chris Powell On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent years video testimonials have been posted here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. Victor
Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list
Does anyone here know more about Gymnema Sylvestre or have any experiences to share? I am very curious, as I never stumbled across it before. A quick search on the Internet shows tons of information, but I am also interested in this groups opinions or experiences. Victor On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Vigilius Haufniensis concept.of.dr...@gmail.com wrote: Don't waste your time with other stuff. Get some Gymnema Sylvestre. If you want the pill form, get it from Standard Process. On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote: Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- systemic. I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water. Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else? There are no markets anymore-just interventions. --Chris Powell On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent years video testimonials have been posted here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. Victor
Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list
Thanks The dollar is the best-looking horse in the glue factory. - Anon On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Vigilius Haufniensis concept.of.dr...@gmail.com wrote: Don't waste your time with other stuff. Get some Gymnema Sylvestre. If you want the pill form, get it from Standard Process. On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote: Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- systemic. I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water. Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else? There are no markets anymore-just interventions. --Chris Powell On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent years video testimonials have been posted here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. Victor
CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list
Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- systemic. I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water. Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else? There are no markets anymore-just interventions. --Chris Powell On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent years video testimonials have been posted here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. Victor
Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list
Hi Chris, I cannot speak from personal experience, but have tried to help family members with gut issues. It sounds like you are on the right track. A couple of things I could comment on: - mixing CS with aloe vera juice 50/50 will supposedly deliver the CS deeper into your digestive system, thus potentially getting to the bad bacteria. If you elect to do something like this, it is recommended to do it for only a week at a time. - do not drink CS and probiotics at the same time. A lot of my family members make and drink kefir every day now, and those that drink CS try to do so in the early morning. - when my brother first tried to pulse (zap) his torso, the herxheimer reaction was too strong, so we knew he definitely had a problem there. He backed off until his body was in better condition. - Ozonated water is great for reducing potential herx reactions, and has additional benefits. Drink it before zapping, if you have it. - we go through cycles of taking bentonite clay for a week or so. Another great way to detox and pull out some bad bacteria. I have made clay a regular part of my diet now, by putting it my food sometimes. - one important key factor: diet. If I remember correctly, candida thrive on white flour and white sugar, so it is hard to kill them if we are feeding them continuously. Hope that helps. Victor On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote: Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- systemic. I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water. Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else? There are no markets anymore-just interventions. --Chris Powell On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent years video testimonials have been posted here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. Victor
Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list
I think seaweed supplements help and also I have had success with oil of oregano...Dee Sent from my iPad On 1 Mar 2015, at 15:27, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote: Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- systemic. I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water. Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else? There are no markets anymore-just interventions. --Chris Powell On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent years video testimonials have been posted here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. Victor
Re: CSCandida....Borax
*Logically you have diabetes when you have an overgrowth of candida, but not by american medical definition*. A Paleo Diet, mostly meat and vege's will help, but the body will still change those food items to glucose, so the body has glucose to use as energy. If that glucose is not controlled with insulin in the blood, we still have a problem. *So in my opinion, an overgrowth of candida is the first symptom of diabetes *. That is the bottom line, but why treat the cause when medics can treat the symptoms your entire life. Don't become a Milk Cow for big pharma... So how much damage will you suffer from too much glucose, too much candida before you either treat it by suppressing glucose, or suffer the consequence. Metformin has given me life, It is not known to cause hypoglycemia, low blood sugar, I play golf three times a week, and cannot take but half a pill, two fifty mgs before doing so, or I run out of gas about hole sixteen of eighteen, david lubbock tx. . On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:57 PM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: So u have to have diabetes to get it for candida? Lol Gail Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: It is a prescription drug for diabetes II. Marshall On 7/24/2013 8:49 PM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: Isn't metformin a prescription drug or can u buy over the counter? Gail Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2013, at 2:58 PM, dAVId dhall...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting about Boron, an austrailian chemist, moved from one area to another there, in the new location, he developed arthritis, he began supplementing his diet with boron twenty five mgs daily, and his arthritis went away. He began advertising such and big pharma published that boron was toxic and could cause health issues, they shut him down. Anyhoo, my friend and I tried boron for our arthritis and saw no improvement. I believe the body uses candida to use up excess glucose the body does not need, the liver produces more glucose than the pancreas can produce insulin to get it into cells, candida then uses all left over glucose so it does not harm organs. To counteract candida, I use metformin, five hundred mgs twice a day which slows down glucose produced by the liver, thus starving out candida, metformin is good for weight loss, lowering LDL and Triglycerides It has little or no side affects at such a low dose and been around for a hundred years to treat type II diabetes. . However each person may adjust their dosage to fit their needs. I started two fifty twice a day and worked up. david lubbock tx. .Knot certified to give medical advice, just my experience. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote: I've been putting a slightly rounded tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax in 5 gallons of water and drinking a quart and a half or so each day for several months, amounting to about a quarter teaspoon per day. No problems here. I'm hoping for the long term benefits promised for boron supplementation, including making it harder for the candida. I got that dosing info from the same site Alan just posted... http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm Be well, Mike D. On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 14:56 -0400, juga...@aol.com wrote: I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer. I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store. On the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this product. It warns if you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately. Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure for this candida? Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally? Thank you .. Judy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6018 - Release Date: 07/24/13
Re: CSCandida....Borax
Hi, just be sure its 100% borax with no additives. I have been taking it for 8 months or so with no side affects except my high blood pressure has gone down 20 points. Also when first starting start with a low dose and build up or you might feel the The Herxheimer Reaction. http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/herxheimer.html Later On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:56 PM, juga...@aol.com wrote: ** I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer. I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store. On the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this product. It warns if you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately. Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure for this candida? Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally? Thank you .. Judy -- A government big enough to give you everything you want will take everything you have.
Re: CSCandida....Borax
Thanks everyone... I am finding this connection with insulin and type 2 diabetes very interesting. I an taking 3 to 4 caps a day of eclipta albe erecta for the past few months. one of the majorbeni's of this herb is balencing out the glucose/insulin leves in the body. One of the other side effects is eliminating abnormal tumor growth. (Has anyone ever experience 'normal' tumors? do a private search on this erb and take note. TW i feel wonderufl since i've been eating this nice tasting herb. Tara - 25/13, dAVId dhall...@gmail.com wrote: *Logically you have diabetes when you have an overgrowth of candida, but not by american medical definition*. A Paleo Diet, mostly meat and vege's will help, but the body will still change those food items to glucose, so the body has glucose to use as energy. If that glucose is not controlled with insulin in the blood, we still have a problem. *So in my opinion, an overgrowth of candida is the first symptom of diabetes *. That is the bottom line, but why treat the cause when medics can treat the symptoms your entire life. Don't become a Milk Cow for big pharma... So how much damage will you suffer from too much glucose, too much candida before you either treat it by suppressing glucose, or suffer the consequence. Metformin has given me life, It is not known to cause hypoglycemia, low blood sugar, I play golf three times a week, and cannot take but half a pill, two fifty mgs before doing so, or I run out of gas about hole sixteen of eighteen, david lubbock tx. . On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:57 PM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: So u have to have diabetes to get it for candida? Lol Gail Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: It is a prescription drug for diabetes II. Marshall On 7/24/2013 8:49 PM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: Isn't metformin a prescription drug or can u buy over the counter? Gail Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2013, at 2:58 PM, dAVId dhall...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting about Boron, an austrailian chemist, moved from one area to another there, in the new location, he developed arthritis, he began supplementing his diet with boron twenty five mgs daily, and his arthritis went away. He began advertising such and big pharma published that boron was toxic and could cause health issues, they shut him down. Anyhoo, my friend and I tried boron for our arthritis and saw no improvement. I believe the body uses candida to use up excess glucose the body does not need, the liver produces more glucose than the pancreas can produce insulin to get it into cells, candida then uses all left over glucose so it does not harm organs. To counteract candida, I use metformin, five hundred mgs twice a day which slows down glucose produced by the liver, thus starving out candida, metformin is good for weight loss, lowering LDL and Triglycerides It has little or no side affects at such a low dose and been around for a hundred years to treat type II diabetes. . However each person may adjust their dosage to fit their needs. I started two fifty twice a day and worked up. david lubbock tx. .Knot certified to give medical advice, just my experience. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote: I've been putting a slightly rounded tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax in 5 gallons of water and drinking a quart and a half or so each day for several months, amounting to about a quarter teaspoon per day. No problems here. I'm hoping for the long term benefits promised for boron supplementation, including making it harder for the candida. I got that dosing info from the same site Alan just posted... http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm Be well, Mike D. On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 14:56 -0400, juga...@aol.com wrote: I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer. I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store. On the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this product. It warns if you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately. Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure for this candida? Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally? Thank you .. Judy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6018 - Release Date: 07/24/13
Re: CSCandida....Borax
Thank you, thank you everyone for all of your information re: Candidait has been most helpful. Now I have a lot of reading to do and some big decisions to make... ~ Judy In a message dated 7/25/2013 5:27:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, one...@gmail.com writes: Hi, just be sure its 100% borax with no additives. I have been taking it for 8 months or so with no side affects except my high blood pressure has gone down 20 points. Also when first starting start with a low dose and build up or you might feel the The Herxheimer Reaction. http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/herxheimer.html Later On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:56 PM, _JuGargo@aol.com_ (mailto:juga...@aol.com) wrote: I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer. I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store. On the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this product. It warns if you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately. Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure for this candida? Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally? Thank you .. Judy -- A government big enough to give you everything you want will take everything you have.
CSCandida....Borax
I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer. I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store. On the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this product. It warns if you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately. Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure for this candida? Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally? Thank you .. Judy
Re: CSCandida....Borax
Boron is a necessary trace element the body needs, but like many others, too much of it is toxic. Generally a supplemental amount by mouth would be to wet a fingertip, dip it in the borax, and lick it off. No more than that in a day. It has a similar toxicity as boric acid, which is used as an ant poison. If you look at the label on Terro ant poison, you will find it contains borax as the active ingredient. Interestingly it warns to keep it away from food, and not to store around food, and to not use on things like countertops. However, borax, which is 100% borax, instead of a few percent like the ant poison has no such warnings. Weird Federal regulations that seem more concerned with labeling than logic. Marshall On 7/24/2013 2:56 PM, juga...@aol.com wrote: I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer. I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store. On the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this product. It warns if you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately. Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure for this candida? Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally? Thank you .. Judy No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6016 - Release Date: 07/24/13
Re: CSCandida....Borax
Thank you for your answer Marshall... what, in your opinion, would be the protocal for getting rid of Candida using the Boron? In a message dated 7/24/2013 1:15:05 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: Boron is a necessary trace element the body needs, but like many others, too much of it is toxic. Generally a supplemental amount by mouth would be to wet a fingertip, dip it in the borax, and lick it off. No more than that in a day. It has a similar toxicity as boric acid, which is used as an ant poison. If you look at the label on Terro ant poison, you will find it contains borax as the active ingredient. Interestingly it warns to keep it away from food, and not to store around food, and to not use on things like countertops. However, borax, which is 100% borax, instead of a few percent like the ant poison has no such warnings. Weird Federal regulations that seem more concerned with labeling than logic. Marshall On 7/24/2013 2:56 PM, _JuGargo@aol.com_ (mailto:juga...@aol.com) wrote: I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer. I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store. On the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this product. It warns if you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately. Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure for this candida? Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally? Thank you .. Judy No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - _www.avg.com_ (http://www.avg.com/) Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6016 - Release Date: 07/24/13
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JuGargo, I had bookmarked the following page. I can't vouch for it, just sharing info: http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:17 PM, juga...@aol.com wrote: ** Thank you for your answer Marshall... what, in your opinion, would be the protocal for getting rid of Candida using the Boron? In a message dated 7/24/2013 1:15:05 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: Boron is a necessary trace element the body needs, but like many others, too much of it is toxic. Generally a supplemental amount by mouth would be to wet a fingertip, dip it in the borax, and lick it off. No more than that in a day. It has a similar toxicity as boric acid, which is used as an ant poison. If you look at the label on Terro ant poison, you will find it contains borax as the active ingredient. Interestingly it warns to keep it away from food, and not to store around food, and to not use on things like countertops. However, borax, which is 100% borax, instead of a few percent like the ant poison has no such warnings. Weird Federal regulations that seem more concerned with labeling than logic. Marshall On 7/24/2013 2:56 PM, juga...@aol.com wrote: I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer. I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store. On the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this product. It warns if you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately. Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure for this candida? Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally? Thank you .. Judy -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6016 - Release Date: 07/24/13 -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
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Sorry, but I have no experience, and have not researched this at all. Marshall On 7/24/2013 3:17 PM, juga...@aol.com wrote: Thank you for your answer Marshall... what, in your opinion, would be the protocal for getting rid of Candida using the Boron? In a message dated 7/24/2013 1:15:05 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: Boron is a necessary trace element the body needs, but like many others, too much of it is toxic. Generally a supplemental amount by mouth would be to wet a fingertip, dip it in the borax, and lick it off. No more than that in a day. It has a similar toxicity as boric acid, which is used as an ant poison. If you look at the label on Terro ant poison, you will find it contains borax as the active ingredient. Interestingly it warns to keep it away from food, and not to store around food, and to not use on things like countertops. However, borax, which is 100% borax, instead of a few percent like the ant poison has no such warnings. Weird Federal regulations that seem more concerned with labeling than logic. Marshall On 7/24/2013 2:56 PM, juga...@aol.com wrote: I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer. I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store. On the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this product. It warns if you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately. Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure for this candida? Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally? Thank you .. Judy No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6016 - Release Date: 07/24/13 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6016 - Release Date: 07/24/13
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I've been putting a slightly rounded tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax in 5 gallons of water and drinking a quart and a half or so each day for several months, amounting to about a quarter teaspoon per day. No problems here. I'm hoping for the long term benefits promised for boron supplementation, including making it harder for the candida. I got that dosing info from the same site Alan just posted... http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm Be well, Mike D. On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 14:56 -0400, juga...@aol.com wrote: I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer. I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store. On the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this product. It warns if you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately. Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure for this candida? Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally? Thank you .. Judy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Interesting about Boron, an austrailian chemist, moved from one area to another there, in the new location, he developed arthritis, he began supplementing his diet with boron twenty five mgs daily, and his arthritis went away. He began advertising such and big pharma published that boron was toxic and could cause health issues, they shut him down. Anyhoo, my friend and I tried boron for our arthritis and saw no improvement. I believe the body uses candida to use up excess glucose the body does not need, the liver produces more glucose than the pancreas can produce insulin to get it into cells, candida then uses all left over glucose so it does not harm organs. To counteract candida, I use metformin, five hundred mgs twice a day which slows down glucose produced by the liver, thus starving out candida, metformin is good for weight loss, lowering LDL and Triglycerides It has little or no side affects at such a low dose and been around for a hundred years to treat type II diabetes. . However each person may adjust their dosage to fit their needs. I started two fifty twice a day and worked up. david lubbock tx. .Knot certified to give medical advice, just my experience. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote: I've been putting a slightly rounded tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax in 5 gallons of water and drinking a quart and a half or so each day for several months, amounting to about a quarter teaspoon per day. No problems here. I'm hoping for the long term benefits promised for boron supplementation, including making it harder for the candida. I got that dosing info from the same site Alan just posted... http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm Be well, Mike D. On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 14:56 -0400, juga...@aol.com wrote: I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer. I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store. On the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this product. It warns if you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately. Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure for this candida? Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally? Thank you .. Judy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Isn't metformin a prescription drug or can u buy over the counter? Gail Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2013, at 2:58 PM, dAVId dhall...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting about Boron, an austrailian chemist, moved from one area to another there, in the new location, he developed arthritis, he began supplementing his diet with boron twenty five mgs daily, and his arthritis went away. He began advertising such and big pharma published that boron was toxic and could cause health issues, they shut him down. Anyhoo, my friend and I tried boron for our arthritis and saw no improvement. I believe the body uses candida to use up excess glucose the body does not need, the liver produces more glucose than the pancreas can produce insulin to get it into cells, candida then uses all left over glucose so it does not harm organs. To counteract candida, I use metformin, five hundred mgs twice a day which slows down glucose produced by the liver, thus starving out candida, metformin is good for weight loss, lowering LDL and Triglycerides It has little or no side affects at such a low dose and been around for a hundred years to treat type II diabetes. . However each person may adjust their dosage to fit their needs. I started two fifty twice a day and worked up. david lubbock tx. .Knot certified to give medical advice, just my experience. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote: I've been putting a slightly rounded tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax in 5 gallons of water and drinking a quart and a half or so each day for several months, amounting to about a quarter teaspoon per day. No problems here. I'm hoping for the long term benefits promised for boron supplementation, including making it harder for the candida. I got that dosing info from the same site Alan just posted... http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm Be well, Mike D. On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 14:56 -0400, juga...@aol.com wrote: I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer. I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store. On the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this product. It warns if you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately. Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure for this candida? Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally? Thank you .. Judy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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It is a prescription drug for diabetes II. Marshall On 7/24/2013 8:49 PM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: Isn't metformin a prescription drug or can u buy over the counter? Gail Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2013, at 2:58 PM, dAVId dhall...@gmail.com mailto:dhall...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting about Boron, an austrailian chemist, moved from one area to another there, in the new location, he developed arthritis, he began supplementing his diet with boron twenty five mgs daily, and his arthritis went away. He began advertising such and big pharma published that boron was toxic and could cause health issues, they shut him down. Anyhoo, my friend and I tried boron for our arthritis and saw no improvement. I believe the body uses candida to use up excess glucose the body does not need, the liver produces more glucose than the pancreas can produce insulin to get it into cells, candida then uses all left over glucose so it does not harm organs. To counteract candida, I use metformin, five hundred mgs twice a day which slows down glucose produced by the liver, thus starving out candida, metformin is good for weight loss, lowering LDL and Triglycerides It has little or no side affects at such a low dose and been around for a hundred years to treat type II diabetes. . However each person may adjust their dosage to fit their needs. I started two fifty twice a day and worked up. david lubbock tx. .Knot certified to give medical advice, just my experience. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com mailto:mdev...@gmail.com wrote: I've been putting a slightly rounded tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax in 5 gallons of water and drinking a quart and a half or so each day for several months, amounting to about a quarter teaspoon per day. No problems here. I'm hoping for the long term benefits promised for boron supplementation, including making it harder for the candida. I got that dosing info from the same site Alan just posted... http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm Be well, Mike D. On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 14:56 -0400, juga...@aol.com mailto:juga...@aol.com wrote: I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer. I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store. On the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this product. It warns if you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately. Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure for this candida? Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally? Thank you .. Judy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6018 - Release Date: 07/24/13
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So u have to have diabetes to get it for candida? Lol Gail Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: It is a prescription drug for diabetes II. Marshall On 7/24/2013 8:49 PM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: Isn't metformin a prescription drug or can u buy over the counter? Gail Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2013, at 2:58 PM, dAVId dhall...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting about Boron, an austrailian chemist, moved from one area to another there, in the new location, he developed arthritis, he began supplementing his diet with boron twenty five mgs daily, and his arthritis went away. He began advertising such and big pharma published that boron was toxic and could cause health issues, they shut him down. Anyhoo, my friend and I tried boron for our arthritis and saw no improvement. I believe the body uses candida to use up excess glucose the body does not need, the liver produces more glucose than the pancreas can produce insulin to get it into cells, candida then uses all left over glucose so it does not harm organs.To counteract candida, I use metformin, five hundred mgs twice a day which slows down glucose produced by the liver, thus starving out candida, metformin is good for weight loss, lowering LDL and Triglycerides It has little or no side affects at such a low dose and been around for a hundred years to treat type II diabetes. . However each person may adjust their dosage to fit their needs. I started two fifty twice a day and worked up. david lubbock tx. .Knot certified to give medical advice, just my experience. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote: I've been putting a slightly rounded tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax in 5 gallons of water and drinking a quart and a half or so each day for several months, amounting to about a quarter teaspoon per day. No problems here. I'm hoping for the long term benefits promised for boron supplementation, including making it harder for the candida. I got that dosing info from the same site Alan just posted... http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm Be well, Mike D. On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 14:56 -0400, juga...@aol.com wrote: I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer. I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store. On the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this product. It warns if you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately. Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure for this candida? Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally? Thank you .. Judy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6018 - Release Date: 07/24/13
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Unfortunately Metformin is a prescription drug, but I purchase it from alldaychemist.com. or unitedpharmacy.com. http://www.unitedpharmacies.com/ I had a full load of candida, so although my blood glucose measures up to two hundred for several hours after I eat a full meal, my AlC tests say I am fine, so dock will not help. Metformin has helped me rid myself of a full load of candida, I even had it inside my ears, yucks, I thought I was dieing slowly. I did all the script anti candida drugs, and all the home remedies known, but it always came back. I sometimes get frustrated with american medicine, if there is no money to be made, noone cares. All my medical professionals like to treat the symptoms, and not the disease. thanks for asking, david lubbock tx. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:49 PM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: Isn't metformin a prescription drug or can u buy over the counter? Gail Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2013, at 2:58 PM, dAVId dhall...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting about Boron, an austrailian chemist, moved from one area to another there, in the new location, he developed arthritis, he began supplementing his diet with boron twenty five mgs daily, and his arthritis went away. He began advertising such and big pharma published that boron was toxic and could cause health issues, they shut him down. Anyhoo, my friend and I tried boron for our arthritis and saw no improvement. I believe the body uses candida to use up excess glucose the body does not need, the liver produces more glucose than the pancreas can produce insulin to get it into cells, candida then uses all left over glucose so it does not harm organs. To counteract candida, I use metformin, five hundred mgs twice a day which slows down glucose produced by the liver, thus starving out candida, metformin is good for weight loss, lowering LDL and Triglycerides It has little or no side affects at such a low dose and been around for a hundred years to treat type II diabetes. . However each person may adjust their dosage to fit their needs. I started two fifty twice a day and worked up. david lubbock tx. .Knot certified to give medical advice, just my experience. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote: I've been putting a slightly rounded tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax in 5 gallons of water and drinking a quart and a half or so each day for several months, amounting to about a quarter teaspoon per day. No problems here. I'm hoping for the long term benefits promised for boron supplementation, including making it harder for the candida. I got that dosing info from the same site Alan just posted... http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm Be well, Mike D. On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 14:56 -0400, juga...@aol.com wrote: I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer. I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store. On the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this product. It warns if you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately. Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure for this candida? Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally? Thank you .. Judy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCandida....Borax research paper
1/8 tsp max is the usual accepted dose - or as someone here said small finger licked dipped into the powder up to the joint below the finger nail . But yes Rex Newnham who I met years ago here, wrote this which I think included Candida treatment: http://www.regenerativenutrition.com/boron-osteoporosis-arthritis-allergies-menopause-hormones.asp JAne Boron is a necessary trace element the body needs, but like many others, too much of it is toxic. Generally a supplemental amount by mouth would be to wet a fingertip, dip it in the borax, and lick it off. No more than that in a day. It has a similar toxicity as boric acid, which is used as an ant poison. If you look at the label on Terro ant poison, you will find it contains borax as the active ingredient. Interestingly it warns to keep it away from food, and not to store around food, and to not use on things like countertops. However, borax, which is 100% borax, instead of a few percent like the ant poison has no such warnings. Weird Federal regulations that seem more concerned with labeling than logic.
CSCandida
Virgin Coconut Oil gets rid of candida, but one has to take it long term. Melly
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Hi Lena, What's COT? How did they recommend using cream of tartar? What do you use to Rife it with? Would love more details and references Regards Gidon From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:20 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCandida I take boron caps and have noticed that they're very helpful for arthritis issues. In one of my groups, cream of tartar was recommended for candida as it 'drwons' candida. I encapsulate my bulk-purchased COT (nuts.com) and take a (00) capsule 4x a day. It has definitely reduced candida, although I also Rife it. Be well, Léna On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Dan Nave wrote: This freaks some people out, but you should consider borax for candida and fungus issues. The following is some excerpts from the url below. You can read the whole article and get a good overview. I use it for arthritis symptoms and it seems to work pretty well. (That's 20 Mule Team Borax, which is about 11% boron and has no additives). Dan http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm Standard dose = 1 teaspoon (5 ml) of concentrate. This has 25 to 30 mg of borax and provides about 3 mg of boron. Take 1 dose per day mixed with drink or food. If that feels right then take a second dose with another meal. If there is no specific health problem or for maintenance you may continue indefinitely with 1 or 2 doses daily. If you do have a problem, such as arthritis, osteoporosis and related conditions, cramps or spasms, stiffness due to advancing years, menopause, and also to improve low sex hormone production, increase intake to 3 or more spaced-out standard doses for several months or longer until you feel that your problem has sufficiently improved. Then drop back to 1 or 2 doses per day. Fungi and Fluoride Being such an excellent fungicide it is not surprising that borax is being successfully used to treat Candida. There is much interesting information on an Earth Clinic forum called Borax Cures (10). With low to medium-weight people use 1/8 teaspoon of borax powder and with heavier weight 1/4 teaspoon per litre of water. One drinks the water spaced out during the day, and does this for 4 or 5 days a week as long as required. Many contributors wrote that it cured or greatly helped them. So for instance this post: I also have psoriasis, so maybe the soreness in my joints is the psoriatic arthritis creeping in. I thought, after reading about borax here on this forum, I would give it a try. OMG! In one day, the soreness in my knees has vanished! Also, my psoriasis seems a lot better after 2 days drinking 1/4 tsp borax in 1 litre of water per day. Another one about toe fungus: He wet his feet and then took a handful (of borax) and rubbed it all over his feet. He said it stopped itching immediately! He was stunned. A few weeks later I asked him how his athletes foot was and he said: oh wow! it hasn't come back! that stuff totally cured it !!! Other enthusiastic posts were about vaginal thrush. Borax appeared to be more effective than other remedies. Commonly one large gelatine capsule filled with borax or boric acid was inserted at bedtime for several nights or up to 2 weeks. Alternatively the powder can be mixed with cool solidified coconut oil as a bolus or suppository. A recent scientific study (11) confirms these positive observations with vaginal thrush. Boric acid at the dose of a filled capsule worked even in cases of drug-resistant Candida and against all the tested pathogenic bacteria. Because of the greater dilution, a douche may not be strong enough for bacteria and drug-resistant Candida but it should work for normal Candida. Borax, due to its alkalinity, was more effective than boric acid. In normal healthy conditions Candida exists as harmless oval yeast cells. When challenged, chains of elongated cells called pseudohyphae develop, and finally strongly invasive long, narrow and tube-like filaments called hyphae. These damage the intestinal wall, and cause inflammation and Leaky Gut Syndrome. Pseudohyphae and hyphae can be seen in the blood of individuals with cancer and autoimmune diseases. Candida can also form tough layers of biofilm. This same study shows that boric acid/borax inhibits the formation of biofilms and also the transformation of harmless yeast cells into invasive hyphal form. In other articles I have shown that this process, commonly initiated by antibiotics, is a basic cause of most of our modern diseases, and this makes borax and boric acid primary health remedies. But this article shows that there are many more reasons to give them a top rating. A scientific review in 2011 concluded: ... boric acid is a safe, alternative, economic option for women with recurrent and chronic symptoms of vaginitis when conventional treatment fails... (12). But as it is so much better than drugs why not use it as a first option, or use the even more effective borax? Another study from Turkey (13) shows the protective effect
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I first wrote it out in my post, then abbreviated to COT. SOP. The CAFL list (google it) has frx for candida. Got this info ages ago. Don't presently have time to dig my archives, but if you google, you'll probably find most current info.. Be well, Léna On Jul 20, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Gidon Kenar wrote: Hi Lena, What's COT? How did they recommend using cream of tartar? What do you use to Rife it with? Would love more details and references Regards Gidon From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:20 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCandida I take boron caps and have noticed that they're very helpful for arthritis issues. In one of my groups, cream of tartar was recommended for candida as it 'drwons' candida. I encapsulate my bulk-purchased COT (nuts.com) and take a (00) capsule 4x a day. It has definitely reduced candida, although I also Rife it. Be well, Léna On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Dan Nave wrote: This freaks some people out, but you should consider borax for candida and fungus issues. The following is some excerpts from the url below. You can read the whole article and get a good overview. I use it for arthritis symptoms and it seems to work pretty well. (That's 20 Mule Team Borax, which is about 11% boron and has no additives). Dan http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm Standard dose = 1 teaspoon (5 ml) of concentrate. This has 25 to 30 mg of borax and provides about 3 mg of boron. Take 1 dose per day mixed with drink or food. If that feels right then take a second dose with another meal. If there is no specific health problem or for maintenance you may continue indefinitely with 1 or 2 doses daily. If you do have a problem, such as arthritis, osteoporosis and related conditions, cramps or spasms, stiffness due to advancing years, menopause, and also to improve low sex hormone production, increase intake to 3 or more spaced-out standard doses for several months or longer until you feel that your problem has sufficiently improved. Then drop back to 1 or 2 doses per day. Fungi and Fluoride Being such an excellent fungicide it is not surprising that borax is being successfully used to treat Candida. There is much interesting information on an Earth Clinic forum called Borax Cures (10). With low to medium-weight people use 1/8 teaspoon of borax powder and with heavier weight 1/4 teaspoon per litre of water. One drinks the water spaced out during the day, and does this for 4 or 5 days a week as long as required. Many contributors wrote that it cured or greatly helped them. So for instance this post: I also have psoriasis, so maybe the soreness in my joints is the psoriatic arthritis creeping in. I thought, after reading about borax here on this forum, I would give it a try. OMG! In one day, the soreness in my knees has vanished! Also, my psoriasis seems a lot better after 2 days drinking 1/4 tsp borax in 1 litre of water per day. Another one about toe fungus: He wet his feet and then took a handful (of borax) and rubbed it all over his feet. He said it stopped itching immediately! He was stunned. A few weeks later I asked him how his athletes foot was and he said: oh wow! it hasn't come back! that stuff totally cured it !!! Other enthusiastic posts were about vaginal thrush. Borax appeared to be more effective than other remedies. Commonly one large gelatine capsule filled with borax or boric acid was inserted at bedtime for several nights or up to 2 weeks. Alternatively the powder can be mixed with cool solidified coconut oil as a bolus or suppository. A recent scientific study (11) confirms these positive observations with vaginal thrush. Boric acid at the dose of a filled capsule worked even in cases of drug-resistant Candida and against all the tested pathogenic bacteria. Because of the greater dilution, a douche may not be strong enough for bacteria and drug-resistant Candida but it should work for normal Candida. Borax, due to its alkalinity, was more effective than boric acid. In normal healthy conditions Candida exists as harmless oval yeast cells. When challenged, chains of elongated cells called pseudohyphae develop, and finally strongly invasive long, narrow and tube-like filaments called hyphae. These damage the intestinal wall, and cause inflammation and Leaky Gut Syndrome. Pseudohyphae and hyphae can be seen in the blood of individuals with cancer and autoimmune diseases. Candida can also form tough layers of biofilm. This same study shows that boric acid/borax inhibits the formation of biofilms and also the transformation of harmless yeast cells into invasive hyphal form. In other articles I have shown that this process, commonly initiated by antibiotics, is a basic cause of most of our modern diseases, and this makes borax and boric acid primary health remedies. But this article shows that there are many more reasons
Re: CSCandida/ACV
I like Bragg's Jane be careful which acv you use. Heinz in the gallon is corn ethanol, no apples.The one with the mother in it some say that is a fungus.
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DD On 7/18/13, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: Most folks will say that CS does not help with Candida, it's basically only good for killing virus and bacteria. I've never heard about the idea that starving Candida will cause it to spore, but AFAIK to beat Candida you must simultaneously starve it and kill it. There are several options available for killing it, including coconut oil. Also, look into taking L-Gutamine for healing the damage to the gut caused by Candida. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Alan, I don't get the rationale behind cutting on the fruit and adding the fats? I know lots of natural healers say that it will starve the fungus (which likes sugars). But to my logic, since it's a fungus, starving it will only cause it to spore, in which state it is almost untouchable... am I wrong here? Could CS do any good here? Gidon From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:04 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCandida The vegan diet is not for everybody, and if you have Candidiasis, it's definitely contraindicated. Still, if you insist on staying with it, you should decrease fruit to almost zero, and up the healthy fats -- olives, avocado, and especially coconut. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a ringworm in other parts of my body. My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in this matter... Regards Gidon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
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Maybe grapefruit seed extract? I have used GSE for lots of stuff - from cancer to yeasty dog ears to antibacterial internally, externally, household cleaning, etc. Not sure about candida but definitely worth looking into. I know GSE has antifungal properties. Teri and the Happy Hooligans -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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In what context did you use it with cancer please Teri? My husband has just been diagnosed with bladder cancer and I want to look into complementary therapies. Many thanks dee From: Teri with Jasmine Mykal in Spirit jasminemy...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:36:30 + To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCandida Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Maybe grapefruit seed extract? I have used GSE for lots of stuff - from cancer to yeasty dog ears to antibacterial internally, externally, household cleaning, etc. Not sure about candida but definitely worth looking into. I know GSE has antifungal properties. Teri and the Happy Hooligans -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Im wondering if apricot seeds will help for those suffering from cancer? FMI: http://www.naturalnews.com/027088_cancer_laetrile_cure.html May your husband be healed!
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we've strayed a bit off topic but have you seen this movie on cancer? this has gotten a LOT of attention. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBUGVkmmwbk lynne On Jul 19, 2013, at 1:16 PM, RaVen wrote: Im wondering if apricot seeds will help for those suffering from cancer? FMI: http://www.naturalnews.com/027088_cancer_laetrile_cure.html May your husband be healed!
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This freaks some people out, but you should consider borax for candida and fungus issues. The following is some excerpts from the url below. You can read the whole article and get a good overview. I use it for arthritis symptoms and it seems to work pretty well. (That's 20 Mule Team Borax, which is about 11% boron and has no additives). Dan http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm *Standard dose* = 1 teaspoon (5 ml) of concentrate. This has 25 to 30 mg of borax and provides about 3 mg of boron. Take 1 dose per day mixed with drink or food. If that feels right then take a second dose with another meal. If there is no specific health problem or for maintenance you may continue indefinitely with 1 or 2 doses daily. If you do have a problem, such as arthritis, osteoporosis and related conditions, cramps or spasms, stiffness due to advancing years, menopause, and also to improve low sex hormone production, increase intake to 3 or more spaced-out standard doses for several months or longer until you feel that your problem has sufficiently improved. Then drop back to 1 or 2 doses per day. *Fungi and Fluoride* Being such an excellent fungicide it is not surprising that borax is being successfully used to treat Candida. There is much interesting information on an Earth Clinic forum called Borax Cures (10). With low to medium-weight people use 1/8 teaspoon of borax powder and with heavier weight 1/4 teaspoon per litre of water. One drinks the water spaced out during the day, and does this for 4 or 5 days a week as long as required. Many contributors wrote that it cured or greatly helped them. So for instance this post: I also have psoriasis, so maybe the soreness in my joints is the psoriatic arthritis creeping in. I thought, after reading about borax here on this forum, I would give it a try. OMG! In one day, the soreness in my knees has vanished! Also, my psoriasis seems a lot better after 2 days drinking 1/4 tsp borax in 1 litre of water per day. Another one about toe fungus: He wet his feet and then took a handful (of borax) and rubbed it all over his feet. He said it stopped itching immediately! He was stunned. A few weeks later I asked him how his athletes foot was and he said: oh wow! it hasn't come back! that stuff totally cured it !!! Other enthusiastic posts were about vaginal thrush. Borax appeared to be more effective than other remedies. Commonly one large gelatine capsule filled with borax or boric acid was inserted at bedtime for several nights or up to 2 weeks. Alternatively the powder can be mixed with cool solidified coconut oil as a bolus or suppository. A recent scientific study (11) confirms these positive observations with vaginal thrush. Boric acid at the dose of a filled capsule worked even in cases of drug-resistant Candida and against all the tested pathogenic bacteria. Because of the greater dilution, a douche may not be strong enough for bacteria and drug-resistant Candida but it should work for normal Candida. Borax, due to its alkalinity, was more effective than boric acid. In normal healthy conditions Candida exists as harmless oval yeast cells. When challenged, chains of elongated cells called pseudohyphae develop, and finally strongly invasive long, narrow and tube-like filaments called hyphae. These damage the intestinal wall, and cause inflammation and Leaky Gut Syndrome. Pseudohyphae and hyphae can be seen in the blood of individuals with cancer and autoimmune diseases. Candida can also form tough layers of biofilm. This same study shows that boric acid/borax inhibits the formation of biofilms and also the transformation of harmless yeast cells into invasive hyphal form. In other articles I have shown that this process, commonly initiated by antibiotics, is a basic cause of most of our modern diseases, and this makes borax and boric acid primary health remedies. But this article shows that there are many more reasons to give them a top rating. A scientific review in 2011 concluded: ... boric acid is a safe, alternative, economic option for women with recurrent and chronic symptoms of vaginitis when conventional treatment fails... (12). But as it is so much better than drugs why not use it as a first option, or use the even more effective borax? Another study from Turkey (13) shows the protective effect of boric acid on food contaminated with mycotoxins, especially fungal aflatoxins. Among these, Aflatoxin B1 (AFB1) causes extensive DNA damage and is the most potent carcinogen ever tested, especially affecting liver and lungs, also causing birth defects, immunotoxicity and even death in farm animals and humans. Boric acid treatment was protective and led to increased resistance of DNA to oxidative damage induced by AFB1. The strong antifungal action of boric acid is, of course, the reason why it has traditionally been used as a food preservative. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I found to have
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I take boron caps and have noticed that they're very helpful for arthritis issues. In one of my groups, cream of tartar was recommended for candida as it 'drwons' candida. I encapsulate my bulk-purchased COT (nuts.com) and take a (00) capsule 4x a day. It has definitely reduced candida, although I also Rife it. Be well, Léna On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Dan Nave wrote: This freaks some people out, but you should consider borax for candida and fungus issues. The following is some excerpts from the url below. You can read the whole article and get a good overview. I use it for arthritis symptoms and it seems to work pretty well. (That's 20 Mule Team Borax, which is about 11% boron and has no additives). Dan http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm Standard dose = 1 teaspoon (5 ml) of concentrate. This has 25 to 30 mg of borax and provides about 3 mg of boron. Take 1 dose per day mixed with drink or food. If that feels right then take a second dose with another meal. If there is no specific health problem or for maintenance you may continue indefinitely with 1 or 2 doses daily. If you do have a problem, such as arthritis, osteoporosis and related conditions, cramps or spasms, stiffness due to advancing years, menopause, and also to improve low sex hormone production, increase intake to 3 or more spaced-out standard doses for several months or longer until you feel that your problem has sufficiently improved. Then drop back to 1 or 2 doses per day. Fungi and Fluoride Being such an excellent fungicide it is not surprising that borax is being successfully used to treat Candida. There is much interesting information on an Earth Clinic forum called Borax Cures (10). With low to medium-weight people use 1/8 teaspoon of borax powder and with heavier weight 1/4 teaspoon per litre of water. One drinks the water spaced out during the day, and does this for 4 or 5 days a week as long as required. Many contributors wrote that it cured or greatly helped them. So for instance this post: I also have psoriasis, so maybe the soreness in my joints is the psoriatic arthritis creeping in. I thought, after reading about borax here on this forum, I would give it a try. OMG! In one day, the soreness in my knees has vanished! Also, my psoriasis seems a lot better after 2 days drinking 1/4 tsp borax in 1 litre of water per day. Another one about toe fungus: He wet his feet and then took a handful (of borax) and rubbed it all over his feet. He said it stopped itching immediately! He was stunned. A few weeks later I asked him how his athletes foot was and he said: oh wow! it hasn't come back! that stuff totally cured it !!! Other enthusiastic posts were about vaginal thrush. Borax appeared to be more effective than other remedies. Commonly one large gelatine capsule filled with borax or boric acid was inserted at bedtime for several nights or up to 2 weeks. Alternatively the powder can be mixed with cool solidified coconut oil as a bolus or suppository. A recent scientific study (11) confirms these positive observations with vaginal thrush. Boric acid at the dose of a filled capsule worked even in cases of drug-resistant Candida and against all the tested pathogenic bacteria. Because of the greater dilution, a douche may not be strong enough for bacteria and drug-resistant Candida but it should work for normal Candida. Borax, due to its alkalinity, was more effective than boric acid. In normal healthy conditions Candida exists as harmless oval yeast cells. When challenged, chains of elongated cells called pseudohyphae develop, and finally strongly invasive long, narrow and tube-like filaments called hyphae. These damage the intestinal wall, and cause inflammation and Leaky Gut Syndrome. Pseudohyphae and hyphae can be seen in the blood of individuals with cancer and autoimmune diseases. Candida can also form tough layers of biofilm. This same study shows that boric acid/borax inhibits the formation of biofilms and also the transformation of harmless yeast cells into invasive hyphal form. In other articles I have shown that this process, commonly initiated by antibiotics, is a basic cause of most of our modern diseases, and this makes borax and boric acid primary health remedies. But this article shows that there are many more reasons to give them a top rating. A scientific review in 2011 concluded: ... boric acid is a safe, alternative, economic option for women with recurrent and chronic symptoms of vaginitis when conventional treatment fails... (12). But as it is so much better than drugs why not use it as a first option, or use the even more effective borax? Another study from Turkey (13) shows the protective effect of boric acid on food contaminated with mycotoxins, especially fungal aflatoxins. Among these, Aflatoxin B1 (AFB1) causes extensive DNA damage and is
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Hot day, brain fried, the word was supposed to be 'drowns'. L On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Lena Guyot wrote: I take boron caps and have noticed that they're very helpful for arthritis issues. In one of my groups, cream of tartar was recommended for candida as it 'drwons' candida. I encapsulate my bulk-purchased COT (nuts.com) and take a (00) capsule 4x a day. It has definitely reduced candida, although I also Rife it. Be well, Léna On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Dan Nave wrote: This freaks some people out, but you should consider borax for candida and fungus issues. The following is some excerpts from the url below. You can read the whole article and get a good overview. I use it for arthritis symptoms and it seems to work pretty well. (That's 20 Mule Team Borax, which is about 11% boron and has no additives). Dan http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm Standard dose = 1 teaspoon (5 ml) of concentrate. This has 25 to 30 mg of borax and provides about 3 mg of boron. Take 1 dose per day mixed with drink or food. If that feels right then take a second dose with another meal. If there is no specific health problem or for maintenance you may continue indefinitely with 1 or 2 doses daily. If you do have a problem, such as arthritis, osteoporosis and related conditions, cramps or spasms, stiffness due to advancing years, menopause, and also to improve low sex hormone production, increase intake to 3 or more spaced-out standard doses for several months or longer until you feel that your problem has sufficiently improved. Then drop back to 1 or 2 doses per day. Fungi and Fluoride Being such an excellent fungicide it is not surprising that borax is being successfully used to treat Candida. There is much interesting information on an Earth Clinic forum called Borax Cures (10). With low to medium-weight people use 1/8 teaspoon of borax powder and with heavier weight 1/4 teaspoon per litre of water. One drinks the water spaced out during the day, and does this for 4 or 5 days a week as long as required. Many contributors wrote that it cured or greatly helped them. So for instance this post: I also have psoriasis, so maybe the soreness in my joints is the psoriatic arthritis creeping in. I thought, after reading about borax here on this forum, I would give it a try. OMG! In one day, the soreness in my knees has vanished! Also, my psoriasis seems a lot better after 2 days drinking 1/4 tsp borax in 1 litre of water per day. Another one about toe fungus: He wet his feet and then took a handful (of borax) and rubbed it all over his feet. He said it stopped itching immediately! He was stunned. A few weeks later I asked him how his athletes foot was and he said: oh wow! it hasn't come back! that stuff totally cured it !!! Other enthusiastic posts were about vaginal thrush. Borax appeared to be more effective than other remedies. Commonly one large gelatine capsule filled with borax or boric acid was inserted at bedtime for several nights or up to 2 weeks. Alternatively the powder can be mixed with cool solidified coconut oil as a bolus or suppository. A recent scientific study (11) confirms these positive observations with vaginal thrush. Boric acid at the dose of a filled capsule worked even in cases of drug-resistant Candida and against all the tested pathogenic bacteria. Because of the greater dilution, a douche may not be strong enough for bacteria and drug-resistant Candida but it should work for normal Candida. Borax, due to its alkalinity, was more effective than boric acid. In normal healthy conditions Candida exists as harmless oval yeast cells. When challenged, chains of elongated cells called pseudohyphae develop, and finally strongly invasive long, narrow and tube-like filaments called hyphae. These damage the intestinal wall, and cause inflammation and Leaky Gut Syndrome. Pseudohyphae and hyphae can be seen in the blood of individuals with cancer and autoimmune diseases. Candida can also form tough layers of biofilm. This same study shows that boric acid/borax inhibits the formation of biofilms and also the transformation of harmless yeast cells into invasive hyphal form. In other articles I have shown that this process, commonly initiated by antibiotics, is a basic cause of most of our modern diseases, and this makes borax and boric acid primary health remedies. But this article shows that there are many more reasons to give them a top rating. A scientific review in 2011 concluded: ... boric acid is a safe, alternative, economic option for women with recurrent and chronic symptoms of vaginitis when conventional treatment fails... (12). But as it is so much better than drugs why not use it as a first option, or use the even more effective borax? Another study from Turkey (13) shows the protective effect of boric acid on food
CSCandida
Hi All, I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a ringworm in other parts of my body. My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in this matter... Regards Gidon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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How do you kill the microbes, cysts, insect eggs, critters and fungus on the raw vegetables and fruits you eat? Every vegan I have known has had their health improve when they stopped being a pure vegan. Just something to think about. Not looking to start an argument about the benefits of being vegan. PT From: Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 6:42 AM Subject: CSCandida Hi All, I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a ringworm in other parts of my body. My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in this matter... Regards Gidon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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The vegan diet is not for everybody, and if you have Candidiasis, it's definitely contraindicated. Still, if you insist on staying with it, you should decrease fruit to almost zero, and up the healthy fats -- olives, avocado, and especially coconut. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a ringworm in other parts of my body. My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in this matter... Regards Gidon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
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Thanks Alan, I don't get the rationale behind cutting on the fruit and adding the fats? I know lots of natural healers say that it will starve the fungus (which likes sugars). But to my logic, since it's a fungus, starving it will only cause it to spore, in which state it is almost untouchable... am I wrong here? Could CS do any good here? Gidon From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:04 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCandida The vegan diet is not for everybody, and if you have Candidiasis, it's definitely contraindicated. Still, if you insist on staying with it, you should decrease fruit to almost zero, and up the healthy fats -- olives, avocado, and especially coconut. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a ringworm in other parts of my body. My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in this matter... Regards Gidon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
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Hi Gidon: Be careful which healers* you listen to. If you don't eat low on the glycemic index, you absolutely will not restore the natural balance of micro-organisms in your digestive system. If you don't get the right amount of essential fatty acids, your health will continue to decline. Candida is a symptom of prolonged dietary imbalance. Don't get caught up with the individuals who over-think the issue and create problems that don't exist. A Candida overgrowth is difficult to successfully address, and takes very consistent work, due to the way that fungus colonizes (as apposed to most bacteria). Even if you eat an anti-candida diet and use anti-fungal products daily, many people still take six months to a year to heal. ~Jason On 7/18/2013 6:15 AM, Gidon Kenar wrote: Thanks Alan, I don't get the rationale behind cutting on the fruit and adding the fats? I know lots of natural healers say that it will starve the fungus (which likes sugars). But to my logic, since it's a fungus, starving it will only cause it to spore, in which state it is almost untouchable... am I wrong here? Could CS do any good here? Gidon From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:04 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCandida The vegan diet is not for everybody, and if you have Candidiasis, it's definitely contraindicated. Still, if you insist on staying with it, you should decrease fruit to almost zero, and up the healthy fats -- olives, avocado, and especially coconut. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a ringworm in other parts of my body. My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in this matter... Regards Gidon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Most folks will say that CS does not help with Candida, it's basically only good for killing virus and bacteria. I've never heard about the idea that starving Candida will cause it to spore, but AFAIK to beat Candida you must simultaneously starve it and kill it. There are several options available for killing it, including coconut oil. Also, look into taking L-Gutamine for healing the damage to the gut caused by Candida. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Alan, I don't get the rationale behind cutting on the fruit and adding the fats? I know lots of natural healers say that it will starve the fungus (which likes sugars). But to my logic, since it's a fungus, starving it will only cause it to spore, in which state it is almost untouchable... am I wrong here? Could CS do any good here? Gidon From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:04 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCandida The vegan diet is not for everybody, and if you have Candidiasis, it's definitely contraindicated. Still, if you insist on staying with it, you should decrease fruit to almost zero, and up the healthy fats -- olives, avocado, and especially coconut. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a ringworm in other parts of my body. My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in this matter... Regards Gidon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
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Hi Gidon, First of all, candida isn't at all like a mushroom, all fungus' aren't the same. Yes, do eliminate, even if it's only for a month, ALL sugars from your diet...no fruits and try to eliminate all starches too, like potatoes etc. Use some apple cider vinigar on your foods and salad dressings. NO WHEAT, no matter how organic it may be. Go gluton free as much as possible. Salads, like the now famous raw beet root, carrot and apple one, is excellent. Eat as much seaweed, BG algae, chlorella (wheat grass (not the grain so it's okay), spiralina) as possible. Go for the vegi shakes and smoothies. Seriously consider introducing goats milk yogurt into your diet as well as some eggs or maybe even free range chicken if you can. You have to be strong in your intent to heal and impeccable in your food choices. This ain't easy...no body ever said it would be. For the foot fungus. soak your feet in sea salt and epsom salt bath at least once a day and use a sage oil on your feet afterwards. A mix of sage and thyme oil (orgegano oil doesn't hurt either) is smelly but it nukes the fungus. It will also help to use it in a massage oil too. Use it a s a belly rub all over your back and abdomen. All hemp products are okay, soya no. Drink only distilled water. Do not drink the tap water and carry a bottle of the distilled with you everywhere you can Okay, all of the above is just for starters. Do some 'duckduckgo' ing on the web and see what else you can research. There's lots of info if you look for it. CS is probably not the best choice for helping to eliminate candida since, as someone has already pointed out, it's mostly for bacterial and maybe viral issues. Good ot have some hand tho' On 7/18/13, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a ringworm in other parts of my body. My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in this matter... Regards Gidon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Some experts say ACV is OK with Candida, others say it's not. I have no idea who is right but keep this in mind. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote: Use some apple cider vinigar on your foods and salad dressings. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
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I've heard that soaking rinsing your organic veggies in a bowl of good water with vinegar reduces a lot of the troublesome stuff. I also always rinse my berries in colloidal silver which lengthens their shelf life in the fridge by a lot. Be well, Léna On Jul 18, 2013, at 8:44 AM, PT Ferrance wrote: How do you kill the microbes, cysts, insect eggs, critters and fungus on the raw vegetables and fruits you eat? Every vegan I have known has had their health improve when they stopped being a pure vegan. Just something to think about. Not looking to start an argument about the benefits of being vegan. PT From: Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 6:42 AM Subject: CSCandida Hi All, I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a ringworm in other parts of my body. My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in this matter... Regards Gidon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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be careful which acv you use. Heinz in the gallon is corn ethanol, no apples.The one with the mother in it some say that is a fungus. From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:46 AM Subject: Re: CSCandida Some experts say ACV is OK with Candida, others say it's not. I have no idea who is right but keep this in mind. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote: Use some apple cider vinigar on your foods and salad dressings. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
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Do you have a place where you get the starter? - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: CSCandida Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. -- From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 2:11:12 PM Subject: Re: CSCandida No, Not really just for the (Candida, Fibermyalgia, Chronic Fatigue,) But Kefir is, its a Pro-Biotic Home made from starter seeds and whole milk, (Raw Milk if you can get it) Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. -- From: Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 6:45:34 AM Subject: CSCandida Hi All Is CS effective against candida? Thanks All Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
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Hi Kathy, I have kefir grains. If you're interested email me at hollis302...@yahoo.com. Sandy --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net wrote: From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net Subject: Re: CSCandida To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:56 AM #yiv1924030970 DIV { MARGIN:0px;} Do you have a place where you get the starter? - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: CSCandida Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 2:11:12 PM Subject: Re: CSCandida No, Not really just for the (Candida, Fibermyalgia, Chronic Fatigue,) But Kefir is, its a Pro-Biotic Home made from starter seeds and whole milk, (Raw Milk if you can get it) Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 6:45:34 AM Subject: CSCandida Hi All Is CS effective against candida? Thanks All Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
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Yes, I get mine from.. http://www.wildernessnaturals.com Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 4:56:43 AM Subject: Re: CSCandida Do you have a place where you get the starter? - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: CSCandida Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 2:11:12 PM Subject: Re: CSCandida No, Not really just for the (Candida, Fibermyalgia, Chronic Fatigue,) But Kefir is, its a Pro-Biotic Home made from starter seeds and whole milk, (Raw Milk if you can get it) Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 6:45:34 AM Subject: CSCandida Hi All Is CS effective against candida? Thanks All Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
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You can get Water Kefir grains and Kombucha scabies here: http://heal-thyself.ning.com/group/sharingstartercultures http://heal-thyself.ning.com/group/sharingstartercultures - Steve N From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:tanke...@iland.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCandida Do you have a place where you get the starter? - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire mailto:telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: CSCandida Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 2:11:12 PM Subject: Re: CSCandida No, Not really just for the (Candida, Fibermyalgia, Chronic Fatigue,) But Kefir is, its a Pro-Biotic Home made from starter seeds and whole milk, (Raw Milk if you can get it) Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ.
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Yikes, methinks you meant scobies? (I hope...) On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.comwrote: You can get Water Kefir grains and Kombucha scabies here: http://heal-thyself.ning.com/group/sharingstartercultures - Steve N -- Alan Jones
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LOL Donna ACS Yikes, methinks you meant scobies? (I hope...) On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: You can get Water Kefir grains and Kombucha scabies here: http://heal-thyself.ning.com/group/sharingstartercultures - Steve N -- Alan Jones
CSCandida
Hi All Is CS effective against candida? Thanks All Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSCandida
No, tot really just for the Candida, Fibermyalgia, Chronic Fatigue, But Kefir is, its a Pro-Biotic Home made from starter seeds and whole milk, (Raw Milk if you can get it) Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 6:45:34 AM Subject: CSCandida Hi All Is CS effective against candida? Thanks All Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSCandida
Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 2:11:12 PM Subject: Re: CSCandida No, Not really just for the (Candida, Fibermyalgia, Chronic Fatigue,) But Kefir is, its a Pro-Biotic Home made from starter seeds and whole milk, (Raw Milk if you can get it) Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 6:45:34 AM Subject: CSCandida Hi All Is CS effective against candida? Thanks All Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSCandida
Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 2:11:12 PM Subject: Re: CSCandida No, Not really just for the (Candida, Fibermyalgia, Chronic Fatigue,) But Kefir is, its a Pro-Biotic Home made from starter seeds and whole milk, (Raw Milk if you can get it) Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 6:45:34 AM Subject: CSCandida Hi All Is CS effective against candida? Thanks All Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
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friend diagnosed with candida. any information that may be of help? There's some info here = http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=460 Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Antifungals are often prescribed, or one could go with herbal antifungals. The herxing from the die off can be brutal, so putting together a protocol for managing that is essential. Many find relief from enemas of one kind or another, because the toxins causing the herx get re-absorbed in the gut; so evacuating the gut can really help. Sweating is another route toxins can exit, again, wiping the sweat off immediately before it is re-absorbed is important. I agree with Garnet about the supplements and probiotics- that helps both with the herx and the re-establishing of normal gut flora. Often candida is lumped in with other fungal infections that are often present in the body, such as aspergillus, etc, so that can affect the die off, etc. It may be important to go slowly with the antifungals, to keep the die off manageable. But however one looks at it, it is a mountain that must be climbed to get to the other side, no way around it. It is important not to give up too soon, if the herxing is bad. Good luck, Kathryn On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:11 PM, Roger Barker wrote: Just met up with a friend in town who has been diagnosed with candida. He asked me to do a search on the net for treatment suggestions. I'm sure CS would go a long way towards helping him so wonder if anyone has got any information that may be of help? Cheers, Roger B NZ
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It is common knowledge that sugar, and empty carbs in general, feeds candida. Does anyone know if Xylitol does the same? We switched to Xylitol several years ago. I tried other things, but I could not tolerate stevia and have doubts about agave nectar. We use Xylitol whenever sweetening is called for, mostly coffee and tea. homemade jam, baked goods, etc. I was under the impression that Xylitol was helpful in getting rid of Candida. That is based on this paragraph from one web site: An interesting exception to this rule is Xylitol. Dr. Ward Dean states that this sweetener is not metabolized by humans OR yeast: Yeast gobble it up, thinking they're getting sugar, and die. He considers it one of the best anti-candida strategies! However, I must add a cautionary note, since it appears that for some, Xylitol is a problem. Note that most Xylitol available now is made from corn cobs, rather than the original Birch Bark. We only used pure Birch sugar from Finland, very expensive, but I think worth it since I can't drink coffee or tea without a teaspoon of sweetener, and I have heard that most other forms of Xylitol are made from corn in China.. http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Life-Sweetener-powder/dp/B000153A9M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=hpcqid=1255455206sr=8-1 Del - Original Message - From: Clayton Family To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:56 AM Subject: Re: CScandida. Antifungals are often prescribed, or one could go with herbal antifungals. The herxing from the die off can be brutal, so putting together a protocol for managing that is essential. Many find relief from enemas of one kind or another, because the toxins causing the herx get re-absorbed in the gut; so evacuating the gut can really help. Sweating is another route toxins can exit, again, wiping the sweat off immediately before it is re-absorbed is important. I agree with Garnet about the supplements and probiotics- that helps both with the herx and the re-establishing of normal gut flora. Often candida is lumped in with other fungal infections that are often present in the body, such as aspergillus, etc, so that can affect the die off, etc. It may be important to go slowly with the antifungals, to keep the die off manageable. But however one looks at it, it is a mountain that must be climbed to get to the other side, no way around it. It is important not to give up too soon, if the herxing is bad. Good luck, Kathryn On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:11 PM, Roger Barker wrote: Just met up with a friend in town who has been diagnosed with candida. He asked me to do a search on the net for treatment suggestions. I'm sure CS would go a long way towards helping him so wonder if anyone has got any information that may be of help? Cheers, Roger B NZ
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I sent a page on Colloidal silver a couple days ago, CS will help Candida, (the beginning stage of fibermyalga) Also Kefir will help kill Candida, which is an over growth of bad bacteria. Look up the word Kefir on the web, lots of info. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote: From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CScandida. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 3:46 AM friend diagnosed with candida. any information that may be of help? There's some info here = http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=460 Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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My thanks to all who replied to my candida question. I've printed out all the information and will pass it on. Tel, thanks for mentioning kefir. I've been making and using if for quite some time now so will certainly be passing on some 'grains' to my friend. Cheers to all, Roger B NZ
CScandida.
Just met up with a friend in town who has been diagnosed with candida. He asked me to do a search on the net for treatment suggestions. I'm sure CS would go a long way towards helping him so wonder if anyone has got any information that may be of help? Cheers, Roger B NZ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Treating Candida is a science and there are many lists devoted to the topic. Personally I found urine retention enemas very effective. Also the book Allergies and Candida by Rochlitz has a set of meridian balancing exercises that were very helpful. They are brain body and left right integration maneuvers you can do at home. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urine_therapy for more information on this ancient therapy. Molybdenum is essential for dealing with the herxing from Candida die off. Liquid probiotics, very high count are also essential. Garnet http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Roger Barker wrote: Just met up with a friend in town who has been diagnosed with candida. He asked me to do a search on the net for treatment suggestions. I'm sure CS would go a long way towards helping him so wonder if anyone has got any information that may be of help? Cheers, Roger B NZ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCandida and the brain
http://www.candidafree.net/resource_36.htm The effects of yeast overgrowth and Autism, ADD, ADHD, Tourette's, headaches, fatigue, depression and schizophrenia Bruce Semon, M.D., Ph.D. The yeast /Candida albicans/ affects the brain directly by producing toxic chemicals that slow down the brain. I call this the 'toxic chemical slowdown.' To better understand, know that the yeast /Candida albicans/ is a normal resident inside of our intestinal tract. This yeast can also be found at times in the mouth and in the birth canal. Sometimes this yeast overgrows and the doctor recognizes this overgrowth of yeast as a yeast infection of the birth canal or in the mouth, where this infection is commonly called thrush. Bacteria are also resident inside the intestinal tract, sharing space with the yeast. After the use of antibiotics the yeast grow to fill in the space left by the removal of the bacteria. Even after the antibiotics have been stopped, the yeast continue to grow at a higher level. Pregnancy and the use of birth control pills can also make yeast grow more. Yeast make a number of chemical compounds which are then picked up and absorbed into the body. These compounds are quite toxic to the nervous system. These compounds include toxic alcohols and aldehydes, as well as the powerful nervous system poison hydrogen sulfide (editor's note: this is a totally different substance than hyrodgen sulfate). Alcohols depress the nervous system and at least some aldehydes are anesthetic agents, which of course put the brain to sleep. These chemicals slow the brain down so that the brain no longer works correctly. These chemicals should be cleared by the liver so that these chemicals never reach the brain. However in some people, these chemicals are apparently not cleared, reach the brain, and cause mental symptoms. If such chemicals start to act early in life, the result is autism, an illness in which the brain functions do not develop properly. If such compounds start to act later, Attention Deficit-Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) may result. Later in life, depression and schizophrenia may occur. These chemical compounds are toxic to humans and can cause such problems as headaches, fatigue and depression. Pregnancy and the use of birth control pills can also make yeast grow more. From the intestinal tract, /Candida albicans/ can release immunosuppressive factors, which again enable it to grow at a higher level. These immunosuppressive factors will circulate and prevent the body's immune system from responding to and clearing yeast at other sites, such as the birth canal. So even after an anti-fungal creme is applied to a yeast infection, the yeast which remain can grow back because the body's immune response to such yeast is suppressed by factors released by /Candida/ in the intestinal tract. As long as the intestinal yeast is present and is making and releasing immunosuppressive factors, the body's immune system will have a difficult time clearing yeast from that area of the body. To clear yeast from that area, the yeast in the intestinal tract need to be cleared first. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCandida and the brain
Many fungal infections present as candida, which may be aspergillus over growth, or many other funguses that can colonize the body. Even so, the treatment can be the same. Kathryn On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Rowena wrote: http://www.candidafree.net/resource_36.htm The effects of yeast overgrowth and Autism, ADD, ADHD, Tourette's, headaches, fatigue, depression and schizophrenia Bruce Semon, M.D., Ph.D. The yeast /Candida albicans/ affects the brain directly by producing toxic chemicals that slow down the brain. I call this the 'toxic chemical slowdown.' To better understand, know that the yeast /Candida albicans/ is a normal resident inside of our intestinal tract. Thi
Re: CScandida - again ,,,, Try KEFIR
Home made kefir works wonders on candida (yeast infection) Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com Subject: Re: CScandida - again To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 12:22 PM The clay can help adsorb the toxins in the gut, as can activated charcoal. Many with fungal issues do not tolerate clays. The coconut oil has natural antifungal qualitites, as does oil of oregano (oreganol brand) and I have heard olive leaf also. With all of these, trying them out at small doses is important to see how one's body will react. When I started the antifungal, I really felt like I was going to die, the die off from the fungal infection was so bad. At the time I did not know the importance of using charcoal for binding the toxins, and keeping the colon moving to physically remove them ASAP. Some use enemas, others use Epsom salts to move it. Also sweating can help with that, but again removing the sweat immediately is important, as the toxins sweated out will go right back in again. Kathryn On Jul 6, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Norton, Steve wrote: Reid, In addition to CS, I would use bentonite clay and coconut oil daily for several weeks. I prefer a non-swelling calcium bentonite clay. For coconut oil you may find it easier to get coconut milk or cream. Coconut milk is 1/3 coconut oil and coconut cream is 2/3 coconut oil if I remember correctly. - Steve N From: A. Reid Harvey [mailto:reidhar...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CScandida - again Hi! As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is anxious to know whether CS helps with this. Can someone please let me know? Or what other alternatives may be available? Many thanks. Reid -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScandida - again
Try home made Kefir, yeast infection is most often caused from too much antibotics for too long. Kefir is a natural Probiotic. easy to make at home, Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. --- On Mon, 7/6/09, A. Reid Harvey reidhar...@hotmail.com wrote: From: A. Reid Harvey reidhar...@hotmail.com Subject: CScandida - again To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 10:36 AM Hi! As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is anxious to know whether CS helps with this. Can someone please let me know? Or what other alternatives may be available? Many thanks. Reid Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you.
CScandida - again
Hi! As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is anxious to know whether CS helps with this. Can someone please let me know? Or what other alternatives may be available? Many thanks. Reid _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290
Re: CScandida - again
Hello Reid, I thought maybe you had found some info on this already, so I waited to respond. The candida diagnosis is not a simple thing in some ways- candida can be a fungal infection ( yeast is related to fungus) and so anti-fungal protocols are usually good for this. There are extensive protocols on the web for that, and it can include completely changing your diet ( it loves sugar and simple carbs), taking some type of antifungal (rx or herbal), and detoxing both the body and the bowel (there are toxins released when it dies, just like any fungus, and they are re-absorbed in the colon, so getting it out is a good idea, as one feels much better faster that way). I do take CS to help with my fungal issues, but a more multi faceted approach is necessary. Best Wishes, Kathryn On Jul 6, 2009, at 11:36 AM, A. Reid Harvey wrote: Hi! As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in her family, and is anxious to know whether CS helps with this. Can someone please let me know? Or what other alternatives may be available? Many thanks. Reid -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CScandida - again
Reid, In addition to CS, I would use bentonite clay and coconut oil daily for several weeks. I prefer a non-swelling calcium bentonite clay. For coconut oil you may find it easier to get coconut milk or cream. Coconut milk is 1/3 coconut oil and coconut cream is 2/3 coconut oil if I remember correctly. - Steve N From: A. Reid Harvey [mailto:reidhar...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CScandida - again Hi! As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is anxious to know whether CS helps with this. Can someone please let me know? Or what other alternatives may be available? Many thanks. Reid
Re: CScandida - again
I don't think that CS would help candida Reid, except for maybe keeping other bacteria and viruses down so the body can help itself better. I'm not sure on this though, so maybe someone more knowledgeable can help. I do believe candida is a very tough customer to get rid of. Dee ---Original Message--- From: A. Reid Harvey Date: 06/07/2009 17:37:03 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CScandida - again Hi! As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is anxious to know whether CS helps with this. Can someone please let me know? Or what other alternatives may be available? Many thanks. Reid Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC thats right for you. faint_grain.jpg
Re: CScandida - again
The clay can help adsorb the toxins in the gut, as can activated charcoal. Many with fungal issues do not tolerate clays. The coconut oil has natural antifungal qualitites, as does oil of oregano (oreganol brand) and I have heard olive leaf also. With all of these, trying them out at small doses is important to see how one's body will react. When I started the antifungal, I really felt like I was going to die, the die off from the fungal infection was so bad. At the time I did not know the importance of using charcoal for binding the toxins, and keeping the colon moving to physically remove them ASAP. Some use enemas, others use Epsom salts to move it. Also sweating can help with that, but again removing the sweat immediately is important, as the toxins sweated out will go right back in again. Kathryn On Jul 6, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Norton, Steve wrote: Reid, In addition to CS, I would use bentonite clay and coconut oil daily for several weeks. I prefer a non-swelling calcium bentonite clay. For coconut oil you may find it easier to get coconut milk or cream. Coconut milk is 1/3 coconut oil and coconut cream is 2/3 coconut oil if I remember correctly. - Steve N From: A. Reid Harvey [mailto:reidhar...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CScandida - again Hi! As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is anxious to know whether CS helps with this. Can someone please let me know? Or what other alternatives may be available? Many thanks. Reid -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScandida - again
Does pertain to Candida,besides other important problems. Harold Feeding mice butyric acid improved their ability to burn fat on a high fat diet. The butyric acid improved their muscle function, health of brown adipose tissue, and various gene signals involved with fatty acid metabolism. Butyric acid also prevented insulin resistance from happening in these over-fed mice. This study was published in Diabetes, the journal of the American Diabetes Association. It is both humorous and informative. Humorous because there is no mention of the primary food in the American diet that contains butyric acid, i.e., butter. Informative because it lends more information to an ever-growing body of information that is telling us that your gut is intimately associated with your metabolism. Butyric acid is made in large amounts in your lower colon when friendly flora (acidophilus) ferment fiber and produce it. Butyric acid is the primary fatty acid required for repair of your digestive lining, prevention of cells turning cancerous in your colon, and now – as a metabolic booster for the improved metabolism of fat around your body. If you colon gets out of balance with too many hostile bacteria or Candida, then your production of butyric acid declines as toxic byproducts increase. This not only slows your metabolism but increases your colon to risks for other problems, including irritable bowel. Part of health, and part of healthy metabolism, is having your gut in really good working condition. - Original Message - From: A. Reid Harvey To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:36 AM Subject: CScandida - again Hi! As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is anxious to know whether CS helps with this. Can someone please let me know? Or what other alternatives may be available? Many thanks. Reid -- Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you.
CSCandida - does CS work against this? Or what?
Hi Everybody, I have a friend, in whose family there is candida. Can someone please tell me, is CS (EIS) effective against this? And/ or are there other altrnatives? Thanks! Reid _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009
CSCandida
Can anyone tell me if they have heard of any success using CS with candida please? deefaint_grain.jpg
Re: CSCandida
In a message dated 5/7/2009 4:29:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, d...@deetroy.org writes: Can anyone tell me if they have heard of any success using CS with candida please? dee **Remember Mom this Mother's Day! Find a florist near you now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=floristncid=emlcntusyelp0006)
CScandida to kathryn
Are you doubting candida as a health issue, or just the theory that dmso helps candida? I agree that many pathogenic substances or different fungi can be mistaken for candida but also I believe that candida is a very real health problem. My only experience with dmso has been to use it for jaw infection and also for bladder cystitis.Both times, I felt very clear headed and did at the time contribute it to possibly having something to do with killing fungus but I really am just guessing here. I would be interested in knowing what you thought about this. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: CScandida to kathryn
Neither. It is just that for so many years practitioners were ascribing symptoms to candida or systemic candida when there was little evidence for it being candida specifically. There are perhaps a dozen pathogenic fungi that can take up residence in the body, some of them being MUCH more serious than candida. Since the body tends to cross react to many similar substances, a reaction that is to some fungus will be similar to another fungus. This is a principle found by allergy theory, esp food and environemental allergy/ sensitivity drs. Similarly, if a person is sensitive to one type of chemical, they will also likely to react to others in a similar chemical family, like petrochemicals for example. So maybe they were right in a way, many symptoms can be from a fungal problem, but might be aspergillus in stead of candida. They are likely to cause similar problems, however, asp seems to invade many more systems than candida does. Another thought is that some of these fungi are toxin factories all by themselves, without any outside added toxins needed to make someone extremely ill with a toxin illness. Some are worse than others, too. My own experience has been that the problem was from a much worse fungal infection, so if the symptoms were very bad, I would think it was from a different fungi. Not sure how much difference it makes when you are treating it, since what kills one ought to kill the rest of them too. The difference would be in severity of illness, and measures to reduce the detox and herks reactions. I have not used dmso personally (at least on purpose, I have spilled some on me before :-) so I am not sure what you are asking about it's use. The vets I used to work for used it to carry drugs into the body of the horses they treated. That is about all I know about it. Has it helped you much, and did you use it as a carrier for something else? Kathryn On Jan 21, 2008, at 12:32 PM, zeb caffe wrote: Are you doubting candida as a health issue, or just the theory that dmso helps candida? I agree that many pathogenic substances or different fungi can be mistaken for candida but also I believe that candida is a very real health problem. My only experience with dmso has been to use it for jaw infection and also for bladder cystitis.Both times, I felt very clear headed and did at the time contribute it to possibly having something to do with killing fungus but I really am just guessing here. I would be interested in knowing what you thought about this. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCandida
Hello! Luz and Leo here. We are out-of-the country, working on the promotion of Reflexology, on the Netherlands Antilles' island of Bonaire (Caribbean Sea). We're almost through, just a couple of days more, to go home, to our appartment in Medellin. After two workshops and many many clients we heard of someone with candida, and she seems to be in a pretty bad state. Can anyone give us the key to the Candida thread (or any files), so that we can inform this lady, whom we would really want to have on this Forum also, but that is up to her. Thank you all in advance, Take Care, Luz y Leo Almost back in Medellin, Colombia. _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx
Re: CSCandida
Can anyone give us the key to the Candida thread (or any files), so that we can inform this lady, whom we would really want to have on this Forum also, but that is up to her. Luz y Leo You might try the Candida forum here = http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=460 Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScandida to ernie
Did you post somewhere how you recovered from candida? Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CScandida to ernie
Yes, I wrote a general description of what I was recommended to do from the nutritionist. -Original Message- From: Betsy Coffey [mailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:03 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CScandida to ernie Did you post somewhere how you recovered from candida? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScandida to ernie
Where is it? G Murray Ernie Patai wrote: Yes, I wrote a general description of what I was recommended to do from the nutritionist. -Original Message- From: Betsy Coffey [mailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:03 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CScandida to ernie Did you post somewhere how you recovered from candida? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CScandida to ernie
Ok, here it is again. :-) I was told to switch to organic veggies. I was doing lots of veggie juicing and was only allowed to mix a small apple with it.( avoid the sugar)Limited fruits. For salad dressing: lemon and organic extra virgin olive oil. I could not eat anything processed: refined foods of any nature. No sugar, yeast, gluten, nothing enriched. NO BREAD, with the exception of organic rye or spelt.(nothing added) No whole wheat products. No potatoes, no mushrooms.( nothing with starch or mold) no peanut butter. That includes certain nuts as well. I was allowed to eat almonds. Moderately ( skin can be toxic in large quantities)NO DIARY,(butter was ok preferably a natural butter substitute ( can't remember the name ) I just used butter myself. no coffee,( I cheated a little ). NO ALCHOHOL, I was taking whole psyllium husks, to compensate for the drop in fibre intake. Also took human Microflora. EFA as well. Multi vitamin 3 times daily. No soy products, no corn products either (also contain mold). Some thought I was crazy especially during the summer months..To much temptation for a good time. :-) I succeeded though. Keep in mind I was taking other things because I also had to adjust and correct a couple other problems. I would still seek the qualifications of a cert. nutritionist who does blood cell microscopy just to make sure you have it and can also determine if there is something more then just cadida. Hope this helps some. ernie Subject: Re: CScandida to ernie Where is it? G Murray Ernie Patai wrote: Yes, I wrote a general description of what I was recommended to do from the nutritionist. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScandida to ernie
The best treatment I have found for Candida is: 1/Proteolitic enzymes 3x3 2/Grapefruit seed extract (GSE conc)15 drops in 8 oz of distilled water 5x a day. 3/ CS 5-10 ppm 1 oz.x5 a day. Swirl in your mouth for one minute then swallow. Make sure you have no metal objects in your mouth (dentures, etc) If caps try to avoid touching CS. 4/Oil of Oregano extract caps (Biotics ADP) 3x3 5/ Candida diet. amply discussed already. 6/ The above protocol for two months. Follow with strong probiotics for one month 3Billionx6 before retiring to recolonize. Candida will not go away but will arrest it for sure. One very common problem is re-contamination. Treat with sex partner the same way! PS Localized UTI The active ingredient in cranberry is d-mannose a compound which prevents adhesion of Candida to the epithelial wall. It can also be obtained by taking Xylitol. Regards Frank Cuns-Rial - Original Message - From: Ernie Patai epa...@sympatico.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:22 PM Subject: RE: CScandida to ernie Ok, here it is again. :-) I was told to switch to organic veggies. I was doing lots of veggie juicing and was only allowed to mix a small apple with it.( avoid the sugar)Limited fruits. For salad dressing: lemon and organic extra virgin olive oil. I could not eat anything processed: refined foods of any nature. No sugar, yeast, gluten, nothing enriched. NO BREAD, with the exception of organic rye or spelt.(nothing added) No whole wheat products. No potatoes, no mushrooms.( nothing with starch or mold) no peanut butter. That includes certain nuts as well. I was allowed to eat almonds. Moderately ( skin can be toxic in large quantities)NO DIARY,(butter was ok preferably a natural butter substitute ( can't remember the name ) I just used butter myself. no coffee,( I cheated a little ). NO ALCHOHOL, I was taking whole psyllium husks, to compensate for the drop in fibre intake. Also took human Microflora. EFA as well. Multi vitamin 3 times daily. No soy products, no corn products either (also contain mold). Some thought I was crazy especially during the summer months..To much temptation for a good time. :-) I succeeded though. Keep in mind I was taking other things because I also had to adjust and correct a couple other problems. I would still seek the qualifications of a cert. nutritionist who does blood cell microscopy just to make sure you have it and can also determine if there is something more then just cadida. Hope this helps some. ernie Subject: Re: CScandida to ernie Where is it? G Murray Ernie Patai wrote: Yes, I wrote a general description of what I was recommended to do from the nutritionist. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CScandida to ernie
Yes forgot to mention grape fruit seed extract and also was taking a parasitic cleans capsule form. Oil of oregano as well in drop form. You have to forgive me it's been a while and forgot some things. -Original Message- From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL [mailto:f...@atlanticbb.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScandida to ernie The best treatment I have found for Candida is: 1/Proteolitic enzymes 3x3 2/Grapefruit seed extract (GSE conc)15 drops in 8 oz of distilled water 5x a day. 3/ CS 5-10 ppm 1 oz.x5 a day. Swirl in your mouth for one minute then swallow. Make sure you have no metal objects in your mouth (dentures, etc) If caps try to avoid touching CS. 4/Oil of Oregano extract caps (Biotics ADP) 3x3 5/ Candida diet. amply discussed already. 6/ The above protocol for two months. Follow with strong probiotics for one month 3Billionx6 before retiring to recolonize. Candida will not go away but will arrest it for sure. One very common problem is re-contamination. Treat with sex partner the same way! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCandida and its cure
From what I've read Candida does extensive damage; both physically and mentally and is usually mistaken as something else. I confused as how one would apply C.S. internally as the comment make it sound like it needs to be rubbed into the skin.The red beet idea shoulds great as I love beets yet I'm unsure as to how this will eradicate the candida. http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C7890.html#G113#G113 says in part: Candida albicans is an opportunistic yeast that normally inhabits the mouth, throat, intestines and genitourinary tract of most humans and is usually considered to be a normal part of the bowel flora (the organisms that coexist with us in our lower digestive tract). However, it may become pathogenic when there is a disturbance in the balance of flora, or a debilitation of the host from other causes. The job of Candida albicans is to recognize and destroy harmful bacteria: Without it, we would be defenseless against many pathogenic bacteria. In a healthy person, Candida albicans numbers in the millions and is controlled by a properly-functioning immune system and friendly bacteria. However, if the number of friendly bacteria is decreased, the immune system is weakened, or other conditions for yeast proliferation occur (diet high in sugar, improper pH in the digestive system) Candida albicans will shift from yeast form to mycelial fungal form and start to invade the body. Somewhere on the net there is a picture of candida overgrowth in the intestines which illustrates the problem it would be. Some people who have had it treated say they passed it, I think on colon cleanse, and that it looked like a chunk of cotton wool. I had it diagnosed recently by my naturopath, a test from a drop of blood. Just took a few minutes. She put me on the candida diet. Just before that, my homeopath had also detected it (as usual! but not too bad) using the computer assisted electro dermal screening program Interro. This also made the homeopathic remedy by passing the appropriate current through a bottle of water. I believe there are herbal / natural Candida remedies on the market called something like Candex; a search would likely bring those up. Also, a HFS might be able to give you an over the counter candida remedy, depending on where you live. I recall also that iodine is used against Candida. Certainly CS would be part of an anti-Candida regimen, whether taken orally or used as a douche internally. I believe some also have used it with an enema to reach the lower portions of the digestive tract. Rowena
Re: CSCandida and its cure
Oh, and also, Connie, yes, coconut OIL is highly recommended in a variety of places for Candida. I have been told that it is better to take the fresh coconut water only if you can get it fresh, as it is transported without its husk and is more vulnerable that way to deterioration. A light, pleasant, fragrant oil is easier to take than some of the darker, smellier ones, so test before you buy to make sure it suits you. Or test by buying a small quantity. Use freshly pressed virgin coconut oil rather than refined, bleached and deodorised oil made from copra and hydrogenated. I get Kokonut oil, available in America from http://www.alphahealth.ca/coconut.html ALpha Health Products Ltd., 7434 Fraser Park Drive, Burnaby, BC V5J 5B9Tel: (604) 436-0545, Fax: (604) 435-4862, Toll free: 1-800-663-2212 e-mail: conta...@alphahealth.ca I get mine from the Australian supplier, http://www.kokonutpacific.com.au/ REgards Rowena
Re: CSCandida: an Answer
Candida overgrowth is systemic and internal. Not the same as a vaginal yeast infection. Mike D. Hi my Friends! Following the Candida thread, my wife came up with this possibility: Pour two spoonfuls of vinegar into one liter of pure water. Mix well, and with this water you bathe the vagina internally. This do once in two weeks (twice monthly). That's it, see the results. Hoping we help, Luz and Faith, licensed Reflexologists, Healing Hands. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCandida and its cure
MIke Devour wrote: Candida overgrowth is systemic and internal. Not the same as a vaginal yeast infection. My wife was not mistakenly mentioning Vaginal Candida (Candidiasis). If it be systemic, the cure can be sustained by any form of applying f.e. C.S. It is then, however a failure in the defense system fungi in the vaginal area), which should be worked on. For normally Candida can live in the system without causing any damage. If there is a systemic problem (like low defenses), the answer would logically be to enhance these defenses, which can be done by taking chorophyl, which exists under many brands .. or fresh spinach, nuts, mandarines, tropical pineapple, roots, and there is one quite natural remedy, which is to cook a (red) beet in a little water and to drink this for fifteen days. Also one can take foods rich in phosphorus, like pumpkin, and its seeds. Almost all the green vegatables contain sufficient minerals which help the defense system. But sleeping well, i.e. sufficient hours, is a good cure also, as well as exercising, and lowering the stress-levels as well as one can. Luz, Licensed Reflexologist, Alimentary Advisor, Healing Hands _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Please see our answer (Candida and its cure), recently sent. Fact is that the man can far more easily reach his organ, and be CLEAN, than a lady. AND: Here also, there may be a failure in the defense-system, Luz and Faith Healing Hands (If you are capable of expressing yourself in Spanish, my wife would love to attend) From: Ernie Patai epa...@sympatico.ca Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCandida: an Answer Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:03:01 -0400 Well that's just hilarious What is the possibility for men, Do they bath their Manginas? -Original Message- From: Faith Saint Francis [mailto:faithstfran...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCandida: an Answer Hi my Friends! Following the Candida thread, my wife came up with this possibility: Pour two spoonfuls of vinegar into one liter of pure water. Mix well, and with this water you bathe the vagina internally. This do once in two weeks (twice monthly). That's it, see the results. Hoping we help, Luz and Faith, licensed Reflexologists, Healing Hands. _ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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Candida overgrowth is systemic and internal. Not the same as a vaginal yeast infection. Mike D. Subject: RE: CSCandida: an Answer Please see our answer (Candida and its cure), recently sent. Fact is that the man can far more easily reach his organ, and be CLEAN, than a lady. AND: Here also, there may be a failure in the defense-system, Luz and Faith Healing Hands (If you are capable of expressing yourself in Spanish, my wife would love to attend) I would have to agree with Mike on this. It is internal and not an external issue even though a womans genitals are internal. It seems from your wifes plausible cure that we would need to address candida overgrowth from the inside and not from the outside in. As I have been cured of it in this manner. Regards, ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Now I'm really getting confused... Candida can live in the system without causing any damage the cure can be sustained by any form of applying f.e. C.S. From what I've read Candida does extensive damage; both physically and mentally and is usually mistaken as something else. When I approached the VA Doctors they had no clue. I confused as how one would apply C.S. internally as the comment make it sound like it needs to be rubbed into the skin.The red beet idea shoulds great as I love beets yet I'm unsure as to how this will eradicate the candida. Maybe I just don't understand. thanks connie On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:11:28 -0400 Faith Saint Francis faithstfran...@hotmail.com writes: MIke Devour wrote: Candida overgrowth is systemic and internal. Not the same as a vaginal yeast infection. My wife was not mistakenly mentioning Vaginal Candida (Candidiasis). If it be systemic, is then, however a failure in the defense system fungi in the vaginal area), which should be worked on. For normally If there is a systemic problem (like low defenses), the answer would logically be to enhance these defenses, which can be done by taking chorophyl, which exists under many brands .. or fresh spinach, nuts, mandarines, tropical pineapple, roots, and there is one quite natural remedy, which is to cook a (red) beet in a little water and to drink this for fifteen days. Also one can take foods rich in phosphorus, like pumpkin, and its seeds. Almost all the green vegatables contain sufficient minerals which help the defense system. But sleeping well, i.e. sufficient hours, is a good cure also, as well as exercising, and lowering the stress-levels as well as one can. Luz, Licensed Reflexologist, Alimentary Advisor, Healing Hands _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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..Doctors so often have no clue .. FSF From: Connie Howard craehow...@juno.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCandida and its cure Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:57:42 -0700 Now I'm really getting confused... Candida can live in the system without causing any damage the cure can be sustained by any form of applying f.e. C.S. From what I've read Candida does extensive damage; both physically and mentally and is usually mistaken as something else. When I approached the VA Doctors they had no clue. I confused as how one would apply C.S. internally as the comment make it sound like it needs to be rubbed into the skin.The red beet idea shoulds great as I love beets yet I'm unsure as to how this will eradicate the candida. Maybe I just don't understand. thanks connie On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:11:28 -0400 Faith Saint Francis faithstfran...@hotmail.com writes: MIke Devour wrote: Candida overgrowth is systemic and internal. Not the same as a vaginal yeast infection. My wife was not mistakenly mentioning Vaginal Candida (Candidiasis). If it be systemic, is then, however a failure in the defense system fungi in the vaginal area), which should be worked on. For normally If there is a systemic problem (like low defenses), the answer would logically be to enhance these defenses, which can be done by taking chorophyl, which exists under many brands .. or fresh spinach, nuts, mandarines, tropical pineapple, roots, and there is one quite natural remedy, which is to cook a (red) beet in a little water and to drink this for fifteen days. Also one can take foods rich in phosphorus, like pumpkin, and its seeds. Almost all the green vegatables contain sufficient minerals which help the defense system. But sleeping well, i.e. sufficient hours, is a good cure also, as well as exercising, and lowering the stress-levels as well as one can. Luz, Licensed Reflexologist, Alimentary Advisor, Healing Hands _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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Candida is linked to those things, and I have read that candida that is recurrent (keeps coming back after improvement on various treatments) can be one result of chronic Epstein-Barr. sol Connie Howard wrote: Does anyone know if there is any test to determine one has Candida? What I've read just talks about symptoms. Also I read that coconut water/milk can kill the candida. Candida can be linked to weight gain, depression and a host of other symptoms... Just wondering if anyone has some insight on this. thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCandida Questions
Does anyone know if there is any test to determine one has Candida? What I've read just talks about symptoms. Also I read that coconut water/milk can kill the candida. Candida can be linked to weight gain, depression and a host of other symptoms... Just wondering if anyone has some insight on this. thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi there, Do a search in google, there is a simple test where you spit into a glass of water and wait ten minutes and if memory serves me right if you have candida then little branches start to form in shape. Candida is a huge subject and theres a group at yahoo. Its hit or miss what helps it, diet is vitally important. Also, its often said that yeast forms around heavy metals in your body to protect the body. Kate At 06:53 AM 6/27/2005, you wrote: Does anyone know if there is any test to determine one has Candida? What I've read just talks about symptoms. Also I read that coconut water/milk can kill the candida. Candida can be linked to weight gain, depression and a host of other symptoms... Just wondering if anyone has some insight on this. thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCandida Questions
-Original Message- From: Connie Howard [mailto:craehow...@juno.com] Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 2:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCandida Questions Does anyone know if there is any test to determine one has Candida? What I've read just talks about symptoms. Also I read that coconut water/milk can kill the candida. Candida can be linked to weight gain, depression and a host of other symptoms... Just wondering if anyone has some insight on this. thanks Yes, live blood cell microscopy. This is one effective way to determine if you have Candida overgrowth. Either see a nutritionist or homeopath that has experience with this. Regards, Ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com