Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list

2015-03-24 Thread evelyn
Hello,  I do not have a computer so cannot interact much.  I had the ear
infection - still not gone, but better.  I am looking into higher dose
Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) and oxygen therapies.  I do want to comment on
things I found that helped other than CS:

Probiotics
Vitamin C
Oregano oil (Mediterranean)

For anyone with serious health issues I recommend a RAW FOODS diet.  After
probiotics, one should go on a raw foods (og) diet; after some time on
this, if your problem does not clear, go to other therapies.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection-
 systemic.
 I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water.
 Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else?

 There are no markets anymore-just interventions.  --Chris Powell

 On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have
 only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would
 like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the
 recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies.

 In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective
 protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for
 the famed 'immortal' blood.

 CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as
 I have seen and experienced its effects.

 I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments,
 experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be
 cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent
 years video testimonials have been posted here:

 https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/

 I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons
 of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment.

 Victor




Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list

2015-03-09 Thread Olushola Camara
How does this compare with berberine?

Olushola

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Vigilius Haufniensis 
concept.of.dr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Don't waste your time with other stuff.  Get some Gymnema Sylvestre.  If
 you want the pill form, get it from Standard Process.

 On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection-
 systemic.
 I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water.
 Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else?

 There are no markets anymore-just interventions.  --Chris Powell

 On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have
 only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would
 like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the
 recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies.

 In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective
 protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for
 the famed 'immortal' blood.

 CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before,
 as I have seen and experienced its effects.

 I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments,
 experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be
 cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent
 years video testimonials have been posted here:

 https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/

 I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find
 tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment.

 Victor





Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list

2015-03-09 Thread Dee
I think it's another of those things to be approached with caution as it can 
interfere with blood sugar levels I believeDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 9 Mar 2015, at 04:32, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does anyone here know more about Gymnema Sylvestre  or have any experiences 
 to share? I am very curious, as I never stumbled across it before. A quick 
 search on the Internet shows tons of information, but I am also interested in 
 this groups opinions or experiences.
 
 Victor
 
 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Vigilius Haufniensis 
 concept.of.dr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't waste your time with other stuff.  Get some Gymnema Sylvestre.  If you 
 want the pill form, get it from Standard Process.
 
 On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- 
 systemic.
 I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water.
 Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else?
 
 There are no markets anymore-just interventions.  --Chris Powell
 
 On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have 
 only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I 
 would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent 
 from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies.
 
 In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective 
 protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for 
 the famed 'immortal' blood.
 
 CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as 
 I have seen and experienced its effects.
 
 I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, 
 experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot 
 be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in 
 recent years video testimonials have been posted here:
 
 https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/
 
 I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons 
 of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment.
 
 Victor


Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list

2015-03-08 Thread Vigilius Haufniensis
Don't waste your time with other stuff.  Get some Gymnema Sylvestre.  If
you want the pill form, get it from Standard Process.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection-
 systemic.
 I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water.
 Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else?

 There are no markets anymore-just interventions.  --Chris Powell

 On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have
 only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would
 like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the
 recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies.

 In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective
 protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for
 the famed 'immortal' blood.

 CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as
 I have seen and experienced its effects.

 I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments,
 experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be
 cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent
 years video testimonials have been posted here:

 https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/

 I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons
 of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment.

 Victor




Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list

2015-03-08 Thread Paul Steel
are you saying Gymnema Sylvestre is really good for candida??
thanksPaul

  From: Vigilius Haufniensis concept.of.dr...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2015 5:37 PM
 Subject: Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list
   
Don't waste your time with other stuff.  Get some Gymnema Sylvestre.  If you 
want the pill form, get it from Standard Process.



On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote:

Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- systemic.I 
am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water.Anyone 
have any success with a protocol using these or something else?

There are no markets anymore-just interventions.  --Chris Powell
On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello Everyone,
Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only 
seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to 
mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent 
discussion of Rife and other energy therapies.
In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective 
protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the 
famed 'immortal' blood.
CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I 
have seen and experienced its effects.
I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, 
experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be 
cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent 
years video testimonials have been posted here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/

I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of 
information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment.
Victor




  

Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list

2015-03-08 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Does anyone here know more about Gymnema Sylvestre  or have any experiences
to share? I am very curious, as I never stumbled across it before. A quick
search on the Internet shows tons of information, but I am also interested
in this groups opinions or experiences.

Victor

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Vigilius Haufniensis 
concept.of.dr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Don't waste your time with other stuff.  Get some Gymnema Sylvestre.  If
 you want the pill form, get it from Standard Process.

 On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection-
 systemic.
 I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water.
 Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else?

 There are no markets anymore-just interventions.  --Chris Powell

 On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have
 only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would
 like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the
 recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies.

 In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective
 protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for
 the famed 'immortal' blood.

 CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before,
 as I have seen and experienced its effects.

 I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments,
 experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be
 cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent
 years video testimonials have been posted here:

 https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/

 I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find
 tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment.

 Victor




Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list

2015-03-08 Thread Gmail
Thanks

The dollar is the best-looking horse in the glue factory. - Anon

 On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Vigilius Haufniensis concept.of.dr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Don't waste your time with other stuff.  Get some Gymnema Sylvestre.  If you 
 want the pill form, get it from Standard Process.
 
 On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- systemic.
 I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water.
 Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else?
 
 There are no markets anymore-just interventions.  --Chris Powell
 
 On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have 
 only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would 
 like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the 
 recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies.
 
 In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective 
 protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for 
 the famed 'immortal' blood.
 
 CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as 
 I have seen and experienced its effects.
 
 I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, 
 experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be 
 cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent 
 years video testimonials have been posted here:
 
 https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/
 
 I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons 
 of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment.
 
 Victor
 


CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list

2015-03-01 Thread Gmail
Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- systemic.
I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water.
Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else?

There are no markets anymore-just interventions.  --Chris Powell

 On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only 
 seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like 
 to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent 
 discussion of Rife and other energy therapies.
 
 In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective 
 protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the 
 famed 'immortal' blood.
 
 CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I 
 have seen and experienced its effects.
 
 I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, 
 experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be 
 cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent 
 years video testimonials have been posted here:
 
 https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/
 
 I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of 
 information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment.
 
 Victor


Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list

2015-03-01 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Hi Chris,

I cannot speak from personal experience, but have tried to help family
members with gut issues. It sounds like you are on the right track. A
couple of things I could comment on:

 - mixing CS with aloe vera juice 50/50 will supposedly deliver the CS
deeper into your digestive system, thus potentially getting to the bad
bacteria. If you elect to do something like this, it is recommended to do
it for only a week at a time.

 - do not drink CS and probiotics at the same time. A lot of my family
members make and drink kefir every day now, and those that drink CS try to
do so in the early morning.

 - when my brother first tried to pulse (zap) his torso, the herxheimer
reaction was too strong, so we knew he definitely had a problem there. He
backed off until his body was in better condition.

 - Ozonated water is great for reducing potential herx reactions, and has
additional benefits. Drink it before zapping, if you have it.

 - we go through cycles of taking bentonite clay for a week or so. Another
great way to detox and pull out some bad bacteria. I have made clay a
regular part of my diet now, by putting it my food sometimes.

 - one important key factor: diet. If I remember correctly, candida thrive
on white flour and white sugar, so it is hard to kill them if we are
feeding them continuously.

Hope that helps.
Victor


On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection-
 systemic.
 I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water.
 Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else?

 There are no markets anymore-just interventions.  --Chris Powell

 On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have
 only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would
 like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the
 recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies.

 In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective
 protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for
 the famed 'immortal' blood.

 CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as
 I have seen and experienced its effects.

 I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments,
 experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be
 cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent
 years video testimonials have been posted here:

 https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/

 I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons
 of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment.

 Victor




Re: CSCandida/Beck Protocol-quiet list

2015-03-01 Thread Dee
I think seaweed supplements help and also I have had success with oil of 
oregano...Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 1 Mar 2015, at 15:27, Gmail ironguard...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Since it is quiet, I am suffering from a serious candida infection- systemic.
 I am using olive leaf extract, CS, VCO, probiotics, and alkaline water.
 Anyone have any success with a protocol using these or something else?
 
 There are no markets anymore-just interventions.  --Chris Powell
 
 On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only 
 seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like 
 to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent 
 discussion of Rife and other energy therapies.
 
 In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective 
 protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the 
 famed 'immortal' blood.
 
 CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I 
 have seen and experienced its effects.
 
 I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, 
 experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be 
 cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent 
 years video testimonials have been posted here:
 
 https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/
 
 I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons 
 of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment.
 
 Victor


Re: CSCandida....Borax

2013-07-25 Thread dAVId
*Logically you have diabetes when you have an overgrowth of candida, but
not by american medical definition*.
A Paleo Diet, mostly meat and vege's will help, but the body will still
change those food items to glucose, so the body has glucose to use as
energy. If that glucose is not controlled with insulin in the blood, we
still have a problem.
*So in my opinion, an overgrowth of candida is the first symptom of diabetes
*.  That is the bottom line, but why treat the cause when medics can treat
the symptoms your entire life. Don't become a Milk Cow for big pharma...
So how much damage will you suffer from too much glucose, too much candida
before you either treat it by suppressing glucose, or suffer the
consequence. Metformin has given me life, It is not known to cause
hypoglycemia, low blood sugar, I play golf three times a week, and cannot
take but half a pill, two fifty mgs before doing so, or I run out of gas
about hole sixteen of eighteen, david lubbock tx. .

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:57 PM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote:

 So u have to have diabetes to get it for candida?  Lol

 Gail

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 24, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

 It is a prescription drug for diabetes II.

 Marshall

 On 7/24/2013 8:49 PM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Isn't metformin a prescription drug or can u buy over the counter?

  Gail

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 24, 2013, at 2:58 PM, dAVId dhall...@gmail.com wrote:

  Interesting about Boron, an austrailian chemist, moved from one area to
 another there, in the new location, he developed arthritis, he began
 supplementing his diet with boron twenty five mgs daily, and his arthritis
 went away.
 He began advertising such and big pharma published that boron was toxic
 and could cause health issues, they shut him down. Anyhoo, my friend and I
 tried boron for our arthritis and saw no improvement.
 I believe the body uses candida to use up excess glucose the body does not
 need, the liver produces more glucose than the pancreas can produce insulin
 to get it into cells, candida then uses all left over glucose so it does
 not harm organs.  To counteract candida, I use metformin, five hundred mgs
 twice a day which slows down glucose produced by the liver, thus starving
 out candida, metformin is good for weight loss, lowering LDL and
 Triglycerides
 It has little or no side affects at such a low dose and been around for a
 hundred years to treat type II diabetes. .  However each person may adjust
 their dosage to fit their needs.  I started two fifty twice a day and
 worked up.
 david lubbock tx. .Knot certified to give medical advice, just my
 experience.



 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been putting a slightly rounded tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax in
 5 gallons of water and drinking a quart and a half or so each day for
 several months, amounting to about a quarter teaspoon per day. No
 problems here. I'm hoping for the long term benefits promised for boron
 supplementation, including making it harder for the candida.

 I got that dosing info from the same site Alan just posted...

 http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm

 Be well,

 Mike D.


 On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 14:56 -0400, juga...@aol.com wrote:
 
  I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer.
  I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store.  On the side
  panels there is a warning about ingesting this product.  It warns if
  you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately.
  Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this
  product can provide a cure for this candida?  Or will I get deathly
  ill if this is taken internally?  Thank you .. Judy
 
 
 
 


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Re: CSCandida....Borax

2013-07-25 Thread Sam L.
Hi, just be sure its 100% borax with no additives. I have been taking it
for 8 months or so with no side affects except my high blood pressure has
gone down 20 points. Also when first starting start with a low dose and
build up or you might feel the The Herxheimer Reaction.
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/herxheimer.html

Later

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:56 PM, juga...@aol.com wrote:

 **

 I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer.  I
 bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store.  On the side panels
 there is a warning about ingesting this product.  It warns if you ingest
 this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately.  Is this warning
 because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure
 for this candida?  Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally?
 Thank you .. Judy









-- 
A government big enough to give you everything you want will take
everything you have.


Re: CSCandida....Borax

2013-07-25 Thread 123 456
Thanks everyone...
I am finding this connection with insulin and type 2 diabetes very interesting.
I an taking 3 to 4  caps a  day of  eclipta albe erecta for the past
few months. one of the majorbeni's of this herb is balencing out the
glucose/insulin leves in the body.
One of the other side effects is eliminating abnormal tumor  growth.
(Has anyone ever experience 'normal' tumors?
do a private search on this erb and take note.
TW i feel wonderufl since i've been eating this nice tasting herb.
Tara
-
25/13, dAVId dhall...@gmail.com wrote:
 *Logically you have diabetes when you have an overgrowth of candida, but
 not by american medical definition*.
 A Paleo Diet, mostly meat and vege's will help, but the body will still
 change those food items to glucose, so the body has glucose to use as
 energy. If that glucose is not controlled with insulin in the blood, we
 still have a problem.
 *So in my opinion, an overgrowth of candida is the first symptom of
 diabetes
 *.  That is the bottom line, but why treat the cause when medics can treat
 the symptoms your entire life. Don't become a Milk Cow for big pharma...
 So how much damage will you suffer from too much glucose, too much candida
 before you either treat it by suppressing glucose, or suffer the
 consequence. Metformin has given me life, It is not known to cause
 hypoglycemia, low blood sugar, I play golf three times a week, and cannot
 take but half a pill, two fifty mgs before doing so, or I run out of gas
 about hole sixteen of eighteen, david lubbock tx. .

 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:57 PM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote:

 So u have to have diabetes to get it for candida?  Lol

 Gail

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 24, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

 It is a prescription drug for diabetes II.

 Marshall

 On 7/24/2013 8:49 PM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Isn't metformin a prescription drug or can u buy over the counter?

  Gail

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 24, 2013, at 2:58 PM, dAVId dhall...@gmail.com wrote:

  Interesting about Boron, an austrailian chemist, moved from one area to
 another there, in the new location, he developed arthritis, he began
 supplementing his diet with boron twenty five mgs daily, and his
 arthritis
 went away.
 He began advertising such and big pharma published that boron was toxic
 and could cause health issues, they shut him down. Anyhoo, my friend and
 I
 tried boron for our arthritis and saw no improvement.
 I believe the body uses candida to use up excess glucose the body does
 not
 need, the liver produces more glucose than the pancreas can produce
 insulin
 to get it into cells, candida then uses all left over glucose so it does
 not harm organs.  To counteract candida, I use metformin, five hundred
 mgs
 twice a day which slows down glucose produced by the liver, thus starving
 out candida, metformin is good for weight loss, lowering LDL and
 Triglycerides
 It has little or no side affects at such a low dose and been around for a
 hundred years to treat type II diabetes. .  However each person may
 adjust
 their dosage to fit their needs.  I started two fifty twice a day and
 worked up.
 david lubbock tx. .Knot certified to give medical advice, just my
 experience.



 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been putting a slightly rounded tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax in
 5 gallons of water and drinking a quart and a half or so each day for
 several months, amounting to about a quarter teaspoon per day. No
 problems here. I'm hoping for the long term benefits promised for boron
 supplementation, including making it harder for the candida.

 I got that dosing info from the same site Alan just posted...

 http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm

 Be well,

 Mike D.


 On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 14:56 -0400, juga...@aol.com wrote:
 
  I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer.
  I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store.  On the side
  panels there is a warning about ingesting this product.  It warns if
  you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately.
  Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this
  product can provide a cure for this candida?  Or will I get deathly
  ill if this is taken internally?  Thank you .. Judy
 
 
 
 


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Re: CSCandida....Borax

2013-07-25 Thread JuGargo
Thank you, thank you everyone for all of your information re: Candidait 
 has been most helpful.  Now I have a lot of reading to do and some big  
decisions to make...   ~ Judy
 
 
In a message dated 7/25/2013 5:27:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
one...@gmail.com writes:

Hi, just  be sure its 100% borax with no additives. I have been taking it 
for 8 months  or so with no side affects except my high blood pressure has 
gone down 20  points. Also when first starting start with a low dose and build 
up or you  might feel the The Herxheimer Reaction.  
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/herxheimer.html

Later

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:56 PM, _JuGargo@aol.com_ 
(mailto:juga...@aol.com)  wrote:



I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an  answer.  I 
bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store.   On the side panels 
there is a warning about ingesting this product.  It  warns if you ingest this 
Borax that you should contact a doctor  immediately.  Is this warning 
because they don't want people to know  that this product can provide a cure 
for 
this candida?  Or will I get  deathly ill if this is taken internally?  
Thank you .. Judy
 



 
 














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CSCandida....Borax

2013-07-24 Thread JuGargo

I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an  answer.  I 
bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store.  On  the side panels 
there is a warning about ingesting this product.  It warns  if you ingest this 
Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately.  Is  this warning 
because they don't want people to know that this product can  provide a cure 
for 
this candida?  Or will I get deathly ill if this is  taken internally?  
Thank you .. Judy
 



 
 









Re: CSCandida....Borax

2013-07-24 Thread Marshall
Boron is a necessary trace element the body needs, but like many others, 
too much of it is toxic.  Generally a supplemental amount by mouth would 
be to wet a fingertip, dip it in the borax, and lick it off.  No more 
than that in a day.  It has a similar toxicity as boric acid, which is 
used as an ant poison.


If you look at the label on Terro ant poison, you will find it contains 
borax as the active ingredient. Interestingly it warns to keep it away 
from food, and not to store around food, and to not use on things like 
countertops.  However, borax, which is 100% borax, instead of a few 
percent like the ant poison has no such warnings.  Weird Federal 
regulations that seem more concerned with labeling than logic.


Marshall

On 7/24/2013 2:56 PM, juga...@aol.com wrote:
I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an 
answer.  I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store.  On 
the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this product.  It 
warns if you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor 
immediately.  Is this warning because they don't want people to know 
that this product can provide a cure for this candida?  Or will I get 
deathly ill if this is taken internally?  Thank you .. Judy




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Re: CSCandida....Borax

2013-07-24 Thread JuGargo
Thank you for your answer Marshall... what, in your opinion, would be the  
protocal for getting rid of Candida using the Boron?
 
 
In a message dated 7/24/2013 1:15:05 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
mdud...@king-cart.com writes:

Boron is  a necessary trace element the body needs, but like many others, 
too much of it  is toxic.  Generally a supplemental amount by mouth would be 
to wet a  fingertip, dip it in the borax, and lick it off.  No more than 
that in a  day.  It has a similar toxicity as boric acid, which is used as an 
ant  poison.

If you look at the label on Terro ant poison, you will find it  contains 
borax as the active ingredient. Interestingly it warns to keep it  away from 
food, and not to store around food, and to not use on things like  
countertops.  However, borax, which is 100% borax, instead of a few  percent 
like the 
ant poison has no such warnings.  Weird Federal  regulations that seem more 
concerned with labeling than  logic.

Marshall

On 7/24/2013 2:56 PM, _JuGargo@aol.com_ (mailto:juga...@aol.com)  wrote:  

I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an  answer.  I 
bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store.   On the side panels 
there is a warning about ingesting this product.  It  warns if you ingest this 
Borax that you should contact a doctor  immediately.  Is this warning 
because they don't want people to know  that this product can provide a cure 
for 
this candida?  Or will I get  deathly ill if this is taken internally?  
Thank you .. Judy
 



 
 








 


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Re: CSCandida....Borax

2013-07-24 Thread Alan Jones
JuGargo, I had bookmarked the following page.  I can't vouch for it, just
sharing info:

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm


On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:17 PM, juga...@aol.com wrote:

 **
 Thank you for your answer Marshall... what, in your opinion, would be the
 protocal for getting rid of Candida using the Boron?

  In a message dated 7/24/2013 1:15:05 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
 mdud...@king-cart.com writes:

 Boron is a necessary trace element the body needs, but like many others,
 too much of it is toxic.  Generally a supplemental amount by mouth would be
 to wet a fingertip, dip it in the borax, and lick it off.  No more than
 that in a day.  It has a similar toxicity as boric acid, which is used as
 an ant poison.

 If you look at the label on Terro ant poison, you will find it contains
 borax as the active ingredient. Interestingly it warns to keep it away from
 food, and not to store around food, and to not use on things like
 countertops.  However, borax, which is 100% borax, instead of a few percent
 like the ant poison has no such warnings.  Weird Federal regulations that
 seem more concerned with labeling than logic.

 Marshall

 On 7/24/2013 2:56 PM, juga...@aol.com wrote:


 I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer.  I
 bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store.  On the side panels
 there is a warning about ingesting this product.  It warns if you ingest
 this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately.  Is this warning
 because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure
 for this candida?  Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally?
 Thank you .. Judy






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Re: CSCandida....Borax

2013-07-24 Thread Marshall

Sorry, but I have no experience, and have not researched this at all.

Marshall

On 7/24/2013 3:17 PM, juga...@aol.com wrote:
Thank you for your answer Marshall... what, in your opinion, would be 
the protocal for getting rid of Candida using the Boron?
In a message dated 7/24/2013 1:15:05 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, 
mdud...@king-cart.com writes:


Boron is a necessary trace element the body needs, but like many
others, too much of it is toxic.  Generally a supplemental amount
by mouth would be to wet a fingertip, dip it in the borax, and
lick it off.  No more than that in a day.  It has a similar
toxicity as boric acid, which is used as an ant poison.

If you look at the label on Terro ant poison, you will find it
contains borax as the active ingredient. Interestingly it warns to
keep it away from food, and not to store around food, and to not
use on things like countertops.  However, borax, which is 100%
borax, instead of a few percent like the ant poison has no such
warnings.  Weird Federal regulations that seem more concerned with
labeling than logic.

Marshall

On 7/24/2013 2:56 PM, juga...@aol.com wrote:

I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an
answer.  I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store. 
On the side panels there is a warning about ingesting this

product.  It warns if you ingest this Borax that you should
contact a doctor immediately.  Is this warning because they don't
want people to know that this product can provide a cure for this
candida?  Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally? 
Thank you .. Judy




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Re: CSCandida....Borax

2013-07-24 Thread M.G. Devour
I've been putting a slightly rounded tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax in
5 gallons of water and drinking a quart and a half or so each day for
several months, amounting to about a quarter teaspoon per day. No
problems here. I'm hoping for the long term benefits promised for boron
supplementation, including making it harder for the candida.

I got that dosing info from the same site Alan just posted...

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm

Be well,

Mike D.


On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 14:56 -0400, juga...@aol.com wrote:
  
 I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer.
 I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store.  On the side
 panels there is a warning about ingesting this product.  It warns if
 you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately.
 Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this
 product can provide a cure for this candida?  Or will I get deathly
 ill if this is taken internally?  Thank you .. Judy
  
  
 
  


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Re: CSCandida....Borax

2013-07-24 Thread dAVId
Interesting about Boron, an austrailian chemist, moved from one area to
another there, in the new location, he developed arthritis, he began
supplementing his diet with boron twenty five mgs daily, and his arthritis
went away.
He began advertising such and big pharma published that boron was toxic and
could cause health issues, they shut him down. Anyhoo, my friend and I
tried boron for our arthritis and saw no improvement.
I believe the body uses candida to use up excess glucose the body does not
need, the liver produces more glucose than the pancreas can produce insulin
to get it into cells, candida then uses all left over glucose so it does
not harm organs.  To counteract candida, I use metformin, five hundred mgs
twice a day which slows down glucose produced by the liver, thus starving
out candida, metformin is good for weight loss, lowering LDL and
Triglycerides
It has little or no side affects at such a low dose and been around for a
hundred years to treat type II diabetes. .  However each person may adjust
their dosage to fit their needs.  I started two fifty twice a day and
worked up.
david lubbock tx. .Knot certified to give medical advice, just my
experience.



On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been putting a slightly rounded tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax in
 5 gallons of water and drinking a quart and a half or so each day for
 several months, amounting to about a quarter teaspoon per day. No
 problems here. I'm hoping for the long term benefits promised for boron
 supplementation, including making it harder for the candida.

 I got that dosing info from the same site Alan just posted...

 http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm

 Be well,

 Mike D.


 On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 14:56 -0400, juga...@aol.com wrote:
 
  I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer.
  I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store.  On the side
  panels there is a warning about ingesting this product.  It warns if
  you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately.
  Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this
  product can provide a cure for this candida?  Or will I get deathly
  ill if this is taken internally?  Thank you .. Judy
 
 
 
 


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Re: CSCandida....Borax

2013-07-24 Thread wanda85929
Isn't metformin a prescription drug or can u buy over the counter?

Gail

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2013, at 2:58 PM, dAVId dhall...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting about Boron, an austrailian chemist, moved from one area to 
 another there, in the new location, he developed arthritis, he began 
 supplementing his diet with boron twenty five mgs daily, and his arthritis 
 went away. 
 He began advertising such and big pharma published that boron was toxic and 
 could cause health issues, they shut him down. Anyhoo, my friend and I tried 
 boron for our arthritis and saw no improvement.
 I believe the body uses candida to use up excess glucose the body does not 
 need, the liver produces more glucose than the pancreas can produce insulin 
 to get it into cells, candida then uses all left over glucose so it does not 
 harm organs.  To counteract candida, I use metformin, five hundred mgs twice 
 a day which slows down glucose produced by the liver, thus starving out 
 candida, metformin is good for weight loss, lowering LDL and Triglycerides
 It has little or no side affects at such a low dose and been around for a 
 hundred years to treat type II diabetes. .  However each person may adjust 
 their dosage to fit their needs.  I started two fifty twice a day and worked 
 up. 
 david lubbock tx. .Knot certified to give medical advice, just my experience.
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been putting a slightly rounded tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax in
 5 gallons of water and drinking a quart and a half or so each day for
 several months, amounting to about a quarter teaspoon per day. No
 problems here. I'm hoping for the long term benefits promised for boron
 supplementation, including making it harder for the candida.
 
 I got that dosing info from the same site Alan just posted...
 
 http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike D.
 
 
 On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 14:56 -0400, juga...@aol.com wrote:
 
  I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer.
  I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store.  On the side
  panels there is a warning about ingesting this product.  It warns if
  you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately.
  Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this
  product can provide a cure for this candida?  Or will I get deathly
  ill if this is taken internally?  Thank you .. Judy
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSCandida....Borax

2013-07-24 Thread Marshall

It is a prescription drug for diabetes II.

Marshall

On 7/24/2013 8:49 PM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote:

Isn't metformin a prescription drug or can u buy over the counter?

Gail

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2013, at 2:58 PM, dAVId dhall...@gmail.com 
mailto:dhall...@gmail.com wrote:


Interesting about Boron, an austrailian chemist, moved from one area 
to another there, in the new location, he developed arthritis, he 
began supplementing his diet with boron twenty five mgs daily, and 
his arthritis went away.
He began advertising such and big pharma published that boron was 
toxic and could cause health issues, they shut him down. Anyhoo, my 
friend and I tried boron for our arthritis and saw no improvement.
I believe the body uses candida to use up excess glucose the body 
does not need, the liver produces more glucose than the pancreas can 
produce insulin to get it into cells, candida then uses all left over 
glucose so it does not harm organs.  To counteract candida, I use 
metformin, five hundred mgs twice a day which slows down glucose 
produced by the liver, thus starving out candida, metformin is good 
for weight loss, lowering LDL and Triglycerides
It has little or no side affects at such a low dose and been around 
for a hundred years to treat type II diabetes. .  However each person 
may adjust their dosage to fit their needs.  I started two fifty 
twice a day and worked up.
david lubbock tx. .Knot certified to give medical advice, just my 
experience.




On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com 
mailto:mdev...@gmail.com wrote:


I've been putting a slightly rounded tablespoon of 20 Mule Team
Borax in
5 gallons of water and drinking a quart and a half or so each day for
several months, amounting to about a quarter teaspoon per day. No
problems here. I'm hoping for the long term benefits promised for
boron
supplementation, including making it harder for the candida.

I got that dosing info from the same site Alan just posted...

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm

Be well,

Mike D.


On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 14:56 -0400, juga...@aol.com
mailto:juga...@aol.com wrote:

 I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an
answer.
 I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store.  On the side
 panels there is a warning about ingesting this product.  It
warns if
 you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately.
 Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this
 product can provide a cure for this candida?  Or will I get deathly
 ill if this is taken internally?  Thank you .. Judy






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Re: CSCandida....Borax

2013-07-24 Thread wanda85929
So u have to have diabetes to get it for candida?  Lol

Gail

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

 It is a prescription drug for diabetes II.
 
 Marshall
 
 On 7/24/2013 8:49 PM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Isn't metformin a prescription drug or can u buy over the counter?
 
 Gail
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 24, 2013, at 2:58 PM, dAVId dhall...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Interesting about Boron, an austrailian chemist, moved from one area to 
 another there, in the new location, he developed arthritis, he began 
 supplementing his diet with boron twenty five mgs daily, and his arthritis 
 went away. 
 He began advertising such and big pharma published that boron was toxic and 
 could cause health issues, they shut him down. Anyhoo, my friend and I 
 tried boron for our arthritis and saw no improvement.
 I believe the body uses candida to use up excess glucose the body does not 
 need, the liver produces more glucose than the pancreas can produce insulin 
 to get it into cells, candida then uses all left over glucose so it does 
 not harm organs.To counteract candida, I use metformin, five 
 hundred mgs twice a day which slows down glucose produced by the liver, 
 thus starving out candida, metformin is good for weight loss, lowering LDL 
 and Triglycerides
 It has little or no side affects at such a low dose and been around for a 
 hundred years to treat type II diabetes. .  However each person may adjust 
 their dosage to fit their needs.  I started two fifty twice a day and 
 worked up. 
 david lubbock tx. .Knot certified to give medical advice, just my 
 experience.
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been putting a slightly rounded tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax in
 5 gallons of water and drinking a quart and a half or so each day for
 several months, amounting to about a quarter teaspoon per day. No
 problems here. I'm hoping for the long term benefits promised for boron
 supplementation, including making it harder for the candida.
 
 I got that dosing info from the same site Alan just posted...
 
 http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike D.
 
 
 On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 14:56 -0400, juga...@aol.com wrote:
 
  I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer.
  I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store.  On the side
  panels there is a warning about ingesting this product.  It warns if
  you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately.
  Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this
  product can provide a cure for this candida?  Or will I get deathly
  ill if this is taken internally?  Thank you .. Judy
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSCandida....Borax

2013-07-24 Thread dAVId
Unfortunately Metformin is a prescription drug, but I purchase it from
alldaychemist.com.
or unitedpharmacy.com.  http://www.unitedpharmacies.com/
I had a full load of candida, so although my blood glucose measures up to
two hundred for several hours after I eat a full meal, my AlC tests say I
am fine, so dock will not help.
Metformin has helped me rid myself of a full load of candida, I even had it
inside my ears, yucks, I thought I was dieing slowly. I did all the script
anti candida drugs, and all the home remedies known, but it always came
back.
I sometimes get frustrated with american medicine, if there is no money to
be made, noone cares.  All my medical professionals like to treat the
symptoms, and not the disease.  thanks for asking, david lubbock tx.

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:49 PM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Isn't metformin a prescription drug or can u buy over the counter?

 Gail

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 24, 2013, at 2:58 PM, dAVId dhall...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting about Boron, an austrailian chemist, moved from one area to
 another there, in the new location, he developed arthritis, he began
 supplementing his diet with boron twenty five mgs daily, and his arthritis
 went away.
 He began advertising such and big pharma published that boron was toxic
 and could cause health issues, they shut him down. Anyhoo, my friend and I
 tried boron for our arthritis and saw no improvement.
 I believe the body uses candida to use up excess glucose the body does not
 need, the liver produces more glucose than the pancreas can produce insulin
 to get it into cells, candida then uses all left over glucose so it does
 not harm organs.  To counteract candida, I use metformin, five hundred mgs
 twice a day which slows down glucose produced by the liver, thus starving
 out candida, metformin is good for weight loss, lowering LDL and
 Triglycerides
 It has little or no side affects at such a low dose and been around for a
 hundred years to treat type II diabetes. .  However each person may adjust
 their dosage to fit their needs.  I started two fifty twice a day and
 worked up.
 david lubbock tx. .Knot certified to give medical advice, just my
 experience.



 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been putting a slightly rounded tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax in
 5 gallons of water and drinking a quart and a half or so each day for
 several months, amounting to about a quarter teaspoon per day. No
 problems here. I'm hoping for the long term benefits promised for boron
 supplementation, including making it harder for the candida.

 I got that dosing info from the same site Alan just posted...

 http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm

 Be well,

 Mike D.


 On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 14:56 -0400, juga...@aol.com wrote:
 
  I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer.
  I bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store.  On the side
  panels there is a warning about ingesting this product.  It warns if
  you ingest this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately.
  Is this warning because they don't want people to know that this
  product can provide a cure for this candida?  Or will I get deathly
  ill if this is taken internally?  Thank you .. Judy
 
 
 
 


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Re: CSCandida....Borax research paper

2013-07-24 Thread Jane MacRoss
1/8 tsp max is the usual accepted dose - or as someone here said small finger 
licked  dipped into the powder up to the joint below the finger nail .

But yes Rex Newnham who I met years ago here, wrote this which I think included 
Candida treatment:

http://www.regenerativenutrition.com/boron-osteoporosis-arthritis-allergies-menopause-hormones.asp

JAne

Boron is a necessary trace element the body needs, but like many others, too 
much of it is toxic.  Generally a supplemental amount by mouth would be to wet 
a fingertip, dip it in the borax, and lick it off.  No more than that in a day. 
 It has a similar toxicity as boric acid, which is used as an ant poison.

If you look at the label on Terro ant poison, you will find it contains borax 
as the active ingredient. Interestingly it warns to keep it away from food, and 
not to store around food, and to not use on things like countertops.  However, 
borax, which is 100% borax, instead of a few percent like the ant poison has no 
such warnings.  Weird Federal regulations that seem more concerned with 
labeling than logic.



CSCandida

2013-07-20 Thread Melly Bag
Virgin Coconut Oil gets rid of candida, but one has to take it long term.

Melly

RE: CSCandida

2013-07-20 Thread Gidon Kenar
Hi Lena,
What's COT?
How did they recommend using cream of tartar?
What do you use to Rife it with?
Would love more details and references

Regards
Gidon 

From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:20 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCandida

I take boron caps and have noticed that they're very helpful for arthritis
issues. In one of my groups, cream of tartar was recommended for candida as
it 'drwons' candida. I encapsulate my bulk-purchased COT (nuts.com) and take
a (00) capsule 4x a day. It has definitely reduced candida, although I also
Rife it.

Be well,
Léna
On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Dan Nave wrote:


This freaks some people out, but you should consider borax for candida and
fungus issues.  The following is some excerpts from the url below.  You can
read the whole article and get a good overview.  I use it for arthritis
symptoms and it seems to work pretty well.  (That's 20 Mule Team Borax,
which is about 11% boron and has no additives).

Dan

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm
Standard dose = 1 teaspoon (5 ml) of concentrate. This has 25 to 30 mg of
borax and provides about 3 mg of boron.  Take 1 dose per day mixed with
drink or food.  If that feels right then take a second dose with another
meal.  If there is no specific health problem or for maintenance you may
continue indefinitely with 1 or 2 doses daily.
If you do have a problem, such as arthritis, osteoporosis and related
conditions, cramps or spasms, stiffness due to advancing years, menopause,
and also to improve low sex hormone production, increase intake to 3 or more
spaced-out standard doses for several months or longer until you feel that
your problem has sufficiently improved. Then drop back to 1 or 2 doses per
day.
 Fungi and Fluoride

Being such an excellent fungicide it is not surprising that borax is being
successfully used to treat Candida. There is much interesting information on
an Earth Clinic forum called Borax Cures (10). With low to medium-weight
people use 1/8 teaspoon of borax powder and with heavier weight 1/4 teaspoon
per litre of water. One drinks the water spaced out during the day, and does
this for 4 or 5 days a week as long as required. 
Many contributors wrote that it cured or greatly helped them. So for
instance this post: I also have psoriasis, so maybe the soreness in my
joints is the psoriatic arthritis creeping in. I thought, after reading
about borax here on this forum, I would give it a try. OMG! In one day, the
soreness in my knees has vanished!  Also, my psoriasis seems a lot
better after 2 days drinking 1/4 tsp borax in 1 litre of water per day.
Another one about toe fungus: He wet his feet and then took a handful (of
borax) and rubbed it all over his feet. He said it stopped itching
immediately! He was stunned. A few weeks later I asked him how his athletes
foot was and he said: oh wow! it hasn't come back! that stuff totally cured
it !!!
Other enthusiastic posts were about vaginal thrush. Borax appeared to be
more effective than other remedies. Commonly one large gelatine capsule
filled with borax or boric acid was inserted at bedtime for several nights
or up to 2 weeks. Alternatively the powder can be mixed with cool solidified
coconut oil as a bolus or suppository.
A recent scientific study (11) confirms these positive observations with
vaginal thrush. Boric acid at the dose of a filled capsule worked even in
cases of drug-resistant Candida and against all the tested pathogenic
bacteria. Because of the greater dilution, a douche may not be strong enough
for bacteria and drug-resistant Candida but it should work for normal
Candida. Borax, due to its alkalinity, was more effective than boric acid.
In normal healthy conditions Candida exists as harmless oval yeast cells.
When challenged, chains of elongated cells called pseudohyphae develop, and
finally strongly invasive long, narrow and tube-like filaments
called hyphae. These damage the intestinal wall, and cause inflammation and
Leaky Gut Syndrome. Pseudohyphae and hyphae can be seen in the blood of
individuals with cancer and autoimmune diseases. Candida can also form tough
layers of biofilm. This same study shows that boric acid/borax inhibits the
formation of biofilms and also the transformation of harmless yeast cells
into invasive hyphal form. In other articles I have shown that this process,
commonly initiated by antibiotics, is a basic cause of most of our modern
diseases, and this makes borax and boric acid primary health remedies. But
this article shows that there are many more reasons to give them a top
rating.
A scientific review in 2011 concluded: ... boric acid is a safe,
alternative, economic option for women with recurrent and chronic symptoms
of vaginitis when conventional treatment fails... (12). But as it is so
much better than drugs why not use it as a first option, or use the even
more effective borax?
Another study from Turkey (13) shows the protective effect

Re: CSCandida

2013-07-20 Thread Lena Guyot
I first wrote it out in my post, then abbreviated to COT. SOP.
The CAFL list (google it) has frx for candida.
Got this info ages ago. Don't presently have time to dig my archives, but if 
you google, you'll probably find most current info..
Be well,
Léna
On Jul 20, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Gidon Kenar wrote:

 Hi Lena,
 What's COT?
 How did they recommend using cream of tartar?
 What do you use to Rife it with?
 Would love more details and references
 
 Regards
 Gidon 
 
 From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
 Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:20 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCandida
 
 I take boron caps and have noticed that they're very helpful for arthritis
 issues. In one of my groups, cream of tartar was recommended for candida as
 it 'drwons' candida. I encapsulate my bulk-purchased COT (nuts.com) and take
 a (00) capsule 4x a day. It has definitely reduced candida, although I also
 Rife it.
 
 Be well,
 Léna
 On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Dan Nave wrote:
 
 
 This freaks some people out, but you should consider borax for candida and
 fungus issues.  The following is some excerpts from the url below.  You can
 read the whole article and get a good overview.  I use it for arthritis
 symptoms and it seems to work pretty well.  (That's 20 Mule Team Borax,
 which is about 11% boron and has no additives).
 
 Dan
 
 http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm
 Standard dose = 1 teaspoon (5 ml) of concentrate. This has 25 to 30 mg of
 borax and provides about 3 mg of boron.  Take 1 dose per day mixed with
 drink or food.  If that feels right then take a second dose with another
 meal.  If there is no specific health problem or for maintenance you may
 continue indefinitely with 1 or 2 doses daily.
 If you do have a problem, such as arthritis, osteoporosis and related
 conditions, cramps or spasms, stiffness due to advancing years, menopause,
 and also to improve low sex hormone production, increase intake to 3 or more
 spaced-out standard doses for several months or longer until you feel that
 your problem has sufficiently improved. Then drop back to 1 or 2 doses per
 day.
  Fungi and Fluoride
 
 Being such an excellent fungicide it is not surprising that borax is being
 successfully used to treat Candida. There is much interesting information on
 an Earth Clinic forum called Borax Cures (10). With low to medium-weight
 people use 1/8 teaspoon of borax powder and with heavier weight 1/4 teaspoon
 per litre of water. One drinks the water spaced out during the day, and does
 this for 4 or 5 days a week as long as required. 
 Many contributors wrote that it cured or greatly helped them. So for
 instance this post: I also have psoriasis, so maybe the soreness in my
 joints is the psoriatic arthritis creeping in. I thought, after reading
 about borax here on this forum, I would give it a try. OMG! In one day, the
 soreness in my knees has vanished!  Also, my psoriasis seems a lot
 better after 2 days drinking 1/4 tsp borax in 1 litre of water per day.
 Another one about toe fungus: He wet his feet and then took a handful (of
 borax) and rubbed it all over his feet. He said it stopped itching
 immediately! He was stunned. A few weeks later I asked him how his athletes
 foot was and he said: oh wow! it hasn't come back! that stuff totally cured
 it !!!
 Other enthusiastic posts were about vaginal thrush. Borax appeared to be
 more effective than other remedies. Commonly one large gelatine capsule
 filled with borax or boric acid was inserted at bedtime for several nights
 or up to 2 weeks. Alternatively the powder can be mixed with cool solidified
 coconut oil as a bolus or suppository.
 A recent scientific study (11) confirms these positive observations with
 vaginal thrush. Boric acid at the dose of a filled capsule worked even in
 cases of drug-resistant Candida and against all the tested pathogenic
 bacteria. Because of the greater dilution, a douche may not be strong enough
 for bacteria and drug-resistant Candida but it should work for normal
 Candida. Borax, due to its alkalinity, was more effective than boric acid.
 In normal healthy conditions Candida exists as harmless oval yeast cells.
 When challenged, chains of elongated cells called pseudohyphae develop, and
 finally strongly invasive long, narrow and tube-like filaments
 called hyphae. These damage the intestinal wall, and cause inflammation and
 Leaky Gut Syndrome. Pseudohyphae and hyphae can be seen in the blood of
 individuals with cancer and autoimmune diseases. Candida can also form tough
 layers of biofilm. This same study shows that boric acid/borax inhibits the
 formation of biofilms and also the transformation of harmless yeast cells
 into invasive hyphal form. In other articles I have shown that this process,
 commonly initiated by antibiotics, is a basic cause of most of our modern
 diseases, and this makes borax and boric acid primary health remedies. But
 this article shows that there are many more reasons

Re: CSCandida/ACV

2013-07-19 Thread Jane MacRoss
I like Bragg's

Jane


  be careful which acv you use.  Heinz in the gallon is corn ethanol, no 
apples.The one with the mother in it  some say that is a fungus.




Re: CSCandida

2013-07-19 Thread 123 456
DD
On 7/18/13, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Most folks will say that CS does not help with Candida, it's basically only
 good for killing virus and bacteria.

 I've never heard about the idea that starving Candida will cause it to
 spore, but AFAIK to beat Candida you must simultaneously starve it and kill
 it.  There are several options available for killing it, including coconut
 oil.

 Also, look into taking L-Gutamine for healing the damage to the gut caused
 by Candida.


 On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Alan,
 I don't get the rationale behind cutting on the fruit and adding the
 fats?
 I know lots of natural healers say that it will starve the fungus (which
 likes sugars). But to my logic, since it's a fungus, starving it will
 only
 cause it to spore, in which state it is almost untouchable... am I wrong
 here?
 Could CS do any good here?

 Gidon



 From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:04 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCandida

 The vegan diet is not for everybody, and if you have Candidiasis, it's
 definitely contraindicated.
 Still, if you insist on staying with it, you should decrease fruit to
 almost
 zero, and up the healthy fats -- olives, avocado, and especially coconut.

 On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Hi All,
 I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion,
 gas
 and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a
 ringworm in other parts of my body.
 My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves
 with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as
 much
 as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in
 this matter...

 Regards
 Gidon




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Re: CSCandida

2013-07-19 Thread Teri with Jasmine Mykal in Spirit
Maybe grapefruit seed extract? 

I have used GSE for lots of stuff - from cancer to yeasty dog ears to 
antibacterial internally, externally, household cleaning, etc. 

Not sure about candida but definitely worth looking into. I know GSE has 
antifungal properties. 

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Re: CSCandida

2013-07-19 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
In what context did you use it with cancer please Teri?  My husband has just
been diagnosed with bladder cancer and I want to look into complementary
therapies.  Many thanks  dee


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 Maybe grapefruit seed extract?
 
 I have used GSE for lots of stuff - from cancer to yeasty dog ears to
 antibacterial internally, externally, household cleaning, etc.
 
 Not sure about candida but definitely worth looking into. I know GSE has
 antifungal properties.
 
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Re: CSCandida

2013-07-19 Thread RaVen
 Im wondering if apricot seeds will help for those suffering from cancer? 
FMI: http://www.naturalnews.com/027088_cancer_laetrile_cure.html

May your husband be healed!





Re: CSCandida

2013-07-19 Thread Lynne Toll
we've strayed a bit off topic but have you seen this movie on cancer?  this has 
gotten a LOT of attention.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBUGVkmmwbk

lynne


On Jul 19, 2013, at 1:16 PM, RaVen wrote:

 Im wondering if apricot seeds will help for those suffering from cancer? 
 FMI: http://www.naturalnews.com/027088_cancer_laetrile_cure.html
 
 May your husband be healed!
 
 
 



Re: CSCandida

2013-07-19 Thread Dan Nave
This freaks some people out, but you should consider borax for candida and
fungus issues.  The following is some excerpts from the url below.  You can
read the whole article and get a good overview.  I use it for arthritis
symptoms and it seems to work pretty well.  (That's 20 Mule Team Borax,
which is about 11% boron and has no additives).

Dan

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm

*Standard dose* = 1 teaspoon (5 ml) of concentrate. This has 25 to 30 mg of
borax and provides about 3 mg of boron.  Take 1 dose per day mixed with
drink or food.  If that feels right then take a second dose with another
meal.  If there is no specific health problem or for maintenance you may
continue indefinitely with 1 or 2 doses daily.

If you do have a problem, such as arthritis, osteoporosis and related
conditions, cramps or spasms, stiffness due to advancing years, menopause,
and also to improve low sex hormone production, increase intake to 3 or
more spaced-out standard doses for several months or longer until you feel
that your problem has sufficiently improved. Then drop back to 1 or 2 doses
per day.

 *Fungi and Fluoride*

Being such an excellent fungicide it is not surprising that borax is being
successfully used to treat Candida. There is much interesting information
on an Earth Clinic forum called Borax Cures (10). With low to medium-weight
people use 1/8 teaspoon of borax powder and with heavier weight 1/4
teaspoon per litre of water. One drinks the water spaced out during the
day, and does this for 4 or 5 days a week as long as required.

Many contributors wrote that it cured or greatly helped them. So for
instance this post: I also have psoriasis, so maybe the soreness in my
joints is the psoriatic arthritis creeping in. I thought, after reading
about borax here on this forum, I would give it a try. OMG! In one day, the
soreness in my knees has vanished!  Also, my psoriasis seems a lot
better after 2 days drinking 1/4 tsp borax in 1 litre of water per day.

Another one about toe fungus: He wet his feet and then took a handful (of
borax) and rubbed it all over his feet. He said it stopped itching
immediately! He was stunned. A few weeks later I asked him how his athletes
foot was and he said: oh wow! it hasn't come back! that stuff totally cured
it !!!

Other enthusiastic posts were about vaginal thrush. Borax appeared to be
more effective than other remedies. Commonly one large gelatine capsule
filled with borax or boric acid was inserted at bedtime for several nights
or up to 2 weeks. Alternatively the powder can be mixed with cool
solidified coconut oil as a bolus or suppository.

A recent scientific study (11) confirms these positive observations with
vaginal thrush. Boric acid at the dose of a filled capsule worked even in
cases of drug-resistant Candida and against all the tested pathogenic
bacteria. Because of the greater dilution, a douche may not be strong
enough for bacteria and drug-resistant Candida but it should work for
normal Candida. Borax, due to its alkalinity, was more effective than boric
acid.

In normal healthy conditions Candida exists as harmless oval yeast cells.
When challenged, chains of elongated cells called pseudohyphae develop, and
finally strongly invasive long, narrow and tube-like filaments
called hyphae. These damage the intestinal wall, and cause inflammation and
Leaky Gut Syndrome. Pseudohyphae and hyphae can be seen in the blood of
individuals with cancer and autoimmune diseases. Candida can also form
tough layers of biofilm. This same study shows that boric acid/borax
inhibits the formation of biofilms and also the transformation of harmless
yeast cells into invasive hyphal form. In other articles I have shown that
this process, commonly initiated by antibiotics, is a basic cause of most
of our modern diseases, and this makes borax and boric acid primary health
remedies. But this article shows that there are many more reasons to give
them a top rating.

A scientific review in 2011 concluded: ... boric acid is a safe,
alternative, economic option for women with recurrent and chronic symptoms
of vaginitis when conventional treatment fails... (12). But as it is so
much better than drugs why not use it as a first option, or use the even
more effective borax?

Another study from Turkey (13) shows the protective effect of boric acid on
food contaminated with mycotoxins, especially fungal aflatoxins. Among
these, Aflatoxin B1 (AFB1) causes extensive DNA damage and is the most
potent carcinogen ever tested, especially affecting liver and lungs, also
causing birth defects, immunotoxicity and even death in farm animals and
humans. Boric acid treatment was protective and led to increased resistance
of DNA to oxidative damage induced by AFB1. The strong antifungal action of
boric acid is, of course, the reason why it has traditionally been used as
a food preservative.


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,
 I found to have 

Re: CSCandida

2013-07-19 Thread Lena Guyot
I take boron caps and have noticed that they're very helpful for arthritis 
issues. In one of my groups, cream of tartar was recommended for candida as it 
'drwons' candida. I encapsulate my bulk-purchased COT (nuts.com) and take a 
(00) capsule 4x a day. It has definitely reduced candida, although I also Rife 
it.

Be well,
Léna
On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Dan Nave wrote:

 This freaks some people out, but you should consider borax for candida and 
 fungus issues.  The following is some excerpts from the url below.  You can 
 read the whole article and get a good overview.  I use it for arthritis 
 symptoms and it seems to work pretty well.  (That's 20 Mule Team Borax, which 
 is about 11% boron and has no additives).
 
 Dan
 
 http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm
 Standard dose = 1 teaspoon (5 ml) of concentrate. This has 25 to 30 mg of 
 borax and provides about 3 mg of boron.  Take 1 dose per day mixed with drink 
 or food.  If that feels right then take a second dose with another meal.  If 
 there is no specific health problem or for maintenance you may continue 
 indefinitely with 1 or 2 doses daily.
 
 If you do have a problem, such as arthritis, osteoporosis and related 
 conditions, cramps or spasms, stiffness due to advancing years, menopause, 
 and also to improve low sex hormone production, increase intake to 3 or more 
 spaced-out standard doses for several months or longer until you feel that 
 your problem has sufficiently improved. Then drop back to 1 or 2 doses per 
 day.
 
  Fungi and Fluoride
 
 
 Being such an excellent fungicide it is not surprising that borax is being 
 successfully used to treat Candida. There is much interesting information on 
 an Earth Clinic forum called Borax Cures (10). With low to medium-weight 
 people use 1/8 teaspoon of borax powder and with heavier weight 1/4 teaspoon 
 per litre of water. One drinks the water spaced out during the day, and does 
 this for 4 or 5 days a week as long as required. 
 
 Many contributors wrote that it cured or greatly helped them. So for instance 
 this post: I also have psoriasis, so maybe the soreness in my joints is the 
 psoriatic arthritis creeping in. I thought, after reading about borax here on 
 this forum, I would give it a try. OMG! In one day, the soreness in my knees 
 has vanished!  Also, my psoriasis seems a lot better after 2 days 
 drinking 1/4 tsp borax in 1 litre of water per day.
 
 Another one about toe fungus: He wet his feet and then took a handful (of 
 borax) and rubbed it all over his feet. He said it stopped itching 
 immediately! He was stunned. A few weeks later I asked him how his athletes 
 foot was and he said: oh wow! it hasn't come back! that stuff totally cured 
 it !!!
 
 Other enthusiastic posts were about vaginal thrush. Borax appeared to be more 
 effective than other remedies. Commonly one large gelatine capsule filled 
 with borax or boric acid was inserted at bedtime for several nights or up to 
 2 weeks. Alternatively the powder can be mixed with cool solidified coconut 
 oil as a bolus or suppository.
 
 A recent scientific study (11) confirms these positive observations with 
 vaginal thrush. Boric acid at the dose of a filled capsule worked even in 
 cases of drug-resistant Candida and against all the tested pathogenic 
 bacteria. Because of the greater dilution, a douche may not be strong enough 
 for bacteria and drug-resistant Candida but it should work for normal 
 Candida. Borax, due to its alkalinity, was more effective than boric acid.
 
 In normal healthy conditions Candida exists as harmless oval yeast cells. 
 When challenged, chains of elongated cells called pseudohyphae develop, and 
 finally strongly invasive long, narrow and tube-like filaments called hyphae. 
 These damage the intestinal wall, and cause inflammation and Leaky Gut 
 Syndrome. Pseudohyphae and hyphae can be seen in the blood of individuals 
 with cancer and autoimmune diseases. Candida can also form tough layers of 
 biofilm. This same study shows that boric acid/borax inhibits the formation 
 of biofilms and also the transformation of harmless yeast cells into invasive 
 hyphal form. In other articles I have shown that this process, commonly 
 initiated by antibiotics, is a basic cause of most of our modern diseases, 
 and this makes borax and boric acid primary health remedies. But this article 
 shows that there are many more reasons to give them a top rating.
 
 A scientific review in 2011 concluded: ... boric acid is a safe, 
 alternative, economic option for women with recurrent and chronic symptoms of 
 vaginitis when conventional treatment fails... (12). But as it is so much 
 better than drugs why not use it as a first option, or use the even more 
 effective borax?
 
 Another study from Turkey (13) shows the protective effect of boric acid on 
 food contaminated with mycotoxins, especially fungal aflatoxins. Among these, 
 Aflatoxin B1 (AFB1) causes extensive DNA damage and is 

Re: CSCandida

2013-07-19 Thread Lena Guyot
Hot day, brain fried, the word was supposed to be 'drowns'. L
On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Lena Guyot wrote:

 I take boron caps and have noticed that they're very helpful for arthritis 
 issues. In one of my groups, cream of tartar was recommended for candida as 
 it 'drwons' candida. I encapsulate my bulk-purchased COT (nuts.com) and take 
 a (00) capsule 4x a day. It has definitely reduced candida, although I also 
 Rife it.
 
 Be well,
 Léna
 On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Dan Nave wrote:
 
 This freaks some people out, but you should consider borax for candida and 
 fungus issues.  The following is some excerpts from the url below.  You can 
 read the whole article and get a good overview.  I use it for arthritis 
 symptoms and it seems to work pretty well.  (That's 20 Mule Team Borax, 
 which is about 11% boron and has no additives).
 
 Dan
 
 http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm
 Standard dose = 1 teaspoon (5 ml) of concentrate. This has 25 to 30 mg of 
 borax and provides about 3 mg of boron.  Take 1 dose per day mixed with 
 drink or food.  If that feels right then take a second dose with another 
 meal.  If there is no specific health problem or for maintenance you may 
 continue indefinitely with 1 or 2 doses daily.
 
 If you do have a problem, such as arthritis, osteoporosis and related 
 conditions, cramps or spasms, stiffness due to advancing years, menopause, 
 and also to improve low sex hormone production, increase intake to 3 or more 
 spaced-out standard doses for several months or longer until you feel that 
 your problem has sufficiently improved. Then drop back to 1 or 2 doses per 
 day.
 
  Fungi and Fluoride
 
 
 Being such an excellent fungicide it is not surprising that borax is being 
 successfully used to treat Candida. There is much interesting information on 
 an Earth Clinic forum called Borax Cures (10). With low to medium-weight 
 people use 1/8 teaspoon of borax powder and with heavier weight 1/4 teaspoon 
 per litre of water. One drinks the water spaced out during the day, and does 
 this for 4 or 5 days a week as long as required. 
 
 Many contributors wrote that it cured or greatly helped them. So for 
 instance this post: I also have psoriasis, so maybe the soreness in my 
 joints is the psoriatic arthritis creeping in. I thought, after reading 
 about borax here on this forum, I would give it a try. OMG! In one day, the 
 soreness in my knees has vanished!  Also, my psoriasis seems a lot 
 better after 2 days drinking 1/4 tsp borax in 1 litre of water per day.
 
 Another one about toe fungus: He wet his feet and then took a handful (of 
 borax) and rubbed it all over his feet. He said it stopped itching 
 immediately! He was stunned. A few weeks later I asked him how his athletes 
 foot was and he said: oh wow! it hasn't come back! that stuff totally cured 
 it !!!
 
 Other enthusiastic posts were about vaginal thrush. Borax appeared to be 
 more effective than other remedies. Commonly one large gelatine capsule 
 filled with borax or boric acid was inserted at bedtime for several nights 
 or up to 2 weeks. Alternatively the powder can be mixed with cool solidified 
 coconut oil as a bolus or suppository.
 
 A recent scientific study (11) confirms these positive observations with 
 vaginal thrush. Boric acid at the dose of a filled capsule worked even in 
 cases of drug-resistant Candida and against all the tested pathogenic 
 bacteria. Because of the greater dilution, a douche may not be strong enough 
 for bacteria and drug-resistant Candida but it should work for normal 
 Candida. Borax, due to its alkalinity, was more effective than boric acid.
 
 In normal healthy conditions Candida exists as harmless oval yeast cells. 
 When challenged, chains of elongated cells called pseudohyphae develop, and 
 finally strongly invasive long, narrow and tube-like filaments called 
 hyphae. These damage the intestinal wall, and cause inflammation and Leaky 
 Gut Syndrome. Pseudohyphae and hyphae can be seen in the blood of 
 individuals with cancer and autoimmune diseases. Candida can also form tough 
 layers of biofilm. This same study shows that boric acid/borax inhibits the 
 formation of biofilms and also the transformation of harmless yeast cells 
 into invasive hyphal form. In other articles I have shown that this process, 
 commonly initiated by antibiotics, is a basic cause of most of our modern 
 diseases, and this makes borax and boric acid primary health remedies. But 
 this article shows that there are many more reasons to give them a top 
 rating.
 
 A scientific review in 2011 concluded: ... boric acid is a safe, 
 alternative, economic option for women with recurrent and chronic symptoms 
 of vaginitis when conventional treatment fails... (12). But as it is so 
 much better than drugs why not use it as a first option, or use the even 
 more effective borax?
 
 Another study from Turkey (13) shows the protective effect of boric acid on 
 food 

CSCandida

2013-07-18 Thread Gidon Kenar
Hi All,
I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas
and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a
ringworm in other parts of my body.
My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves
with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much
as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in
this matter...

Regards
Gidon 




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Re: CSCandida

2013-07-18 Thread PT Ferrance
How do you kill the microbes, cysts, insect eggs, critters and fungus on the 
raw vegetables and fruits you eat?  Every vegan I have known has had their 
health improve when they stopped being a pure vegan.
Just something to think about.  Not looking to start an argument about the 
benefits of being vegan.
PT





 From: Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 6:42 AM
Subject: CSCandida
 

Hi All,
I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas
and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a
ringworm in other parts of my body.
My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves
with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much
as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in
this matter...

Regards
Gidon 




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Re: CSCandida

2013-07-18 Thread Alan Jones
The vegan diet is not for everybody, and if you have Candidiasis, it's
definitely contraindicated.

Still, if you insist on staying with it, you should decrease fruit to
almost zero, and up the healthy fats -- olives, avocado, and especially
coconut.


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,
 I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas
 and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a
 ringworm in other parts of my body.
 My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves
 with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much
 as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in
 this matter...

 Regards
 Gidon




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RE: CSCandida

2013-07-18 Thread Gidon Kenar
Thanks Alan,
I don't get the rationale behind cutting on the fruit and adding the fats?
I know lots of natural healers say that it will starve the fungus (which
likes sugars). But to my logic, since it's a fungus, starving it will only
cause it to spore, in which state it is almost untouchable... am I wrong
here? 
Could CS do any good here?

Gidon



From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCandida

The vegan diet is not for everybody, and if you have Candidiasis, it's
definitely contraindicated.
Still, if you insist on staying with it, you should decrease fruit to almost
zero, and up the healthy fats -- olives, avocado, and especially coconut.

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas
and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a
ringworm in other parts of my body.
My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves
with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much
as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in
this matter...

Regards
Gidon




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Re: CSCandida

2013-07-18 Thread Jason

Hi Gidon:

Be careful which healers* you listen to.

If you don't eat low on the glycemic index, you absolutely will not 
restore the natural balance of micro-organisms in your digestive system.


If you don't get the right amount of essential fatty acids, your health 
will continue to decline.


Candida is a symptom of prolonged dietary imbalance.  Don't get caught 
up with the individuals who over-think the issue and create problems 
that don't exist.  A Candida overgrowth is difficult to successfully 
address, and takes very consistent work, due to the way that fungus 
colonizes (as apposed to most bacteria).


Even if you eat an anti-candida diet and use anti-fungal products daily, 
many people still take six months to a year to heal.


~Jason

On 7/18/2013 6:15 AM, Gidon Kenar wrote:

Thanks Alan,
I don't get the rationale behind cutting on the fruit and adding the fats?
I know lots of natural healers say that it will starve the fungus (which
likes sugars). But to my logic, since it's a fungus, starving it will only
cause it to spore, in which state it is almost untouchable... am I wrong
here?
Could CS do any good here?

Gidon



From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCandida

The vegan diet is not for everybody, and if you have Candidiasis, it's
definitely contraindicated.
Still, if you insist on staying with it, you should decrease fruit to almost
zero, and up the healthy fats -- olives, avocado, and especially coconut.

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas
and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a
ringworm in other parts of my body.
My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves
with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much
as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in
this matter...

Regards
Gidon




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Re: CSCandida

2013-07-18 Thread Alan Jones
Most folks will say that CS does not help with Candida, it's basically only
good for killing virus and bacteria.

I've never heard about the idea that starving Candida will cause it to
spore, but AFAIK to beat Candida you must simultaneously starve it and kill
it.  There are several options available for killing it, including coconut
oil.

Also, look into taking L-Gutamine for healing the damage to the gut caused
by Candida.


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Alan,
 I don't get the rationale behind cutting on the fruit and adding the fats?
 I know lots of natural healers say that it will starve the fungus (which
 likes sugars). But to my logic, since it's a fungus, starving it will only
 cause it to spore, in which state it is almost untouchable... am I wrong
 here?
 Could CS do any good here?

 Gidon



 From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:04 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCandida

 The vegan diet is not for everybody, and if you have Candidiasis, it's
 definitely contraindicated.
 Still, if you insist on staying with it, you should decrease fruit to
 almost
 zero, and up the healthy fats -- olives, avocado, and especially coconut.

 On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,
 I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas
 and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a
 ringworm in other parts of my body.
 My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves
 with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much
 as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in
 this matter...

 Regards
 Gidon




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Re: CSCandida

2013-07-18 Thread 123 456
Hi Gidon,
First of all, candida isn't at all like a mushroom, all fungus' aren't the same.

Yes, do eliminate, even if it's only for a month, ALL sugars from your
diet...no fruits  and try to eliminate all starches too, like potatoes
etc.

Use some apple cider vinigar on your foods and salad dressings.

NO WHEAT, no matter how organic it may be.

Go gluton free as much as possible.

Salads, like the now famous raw beet root, carrot and apple one, is excellent.

Eat as much seaweed, BG algae, chlorella (wheat grass (not the grain
so it's okay), spiralina) as possible.

 Go for the vegi shakes and smoothies.
Seriously consider introducing goats milk yogurt into your diet as
well as some eggs or maybe even free range chicken if you can.

You have to be strong in your intent to heal and impeccable in your
food choices.
 This ain't easy...no body ever said it would be.

For the foot fungus. soak your feet in sea salt and epsom salt bath at
least once a day and use a sage oil on your feet afterwards.

A mix of sage and thyme oil (orgegano oil doesn't hurt either) is
smelly but it nukes the fungus.
It will also help to use it in a massage oil too.
Use it a s a belly rub all over your back and abdomen.

All hemp products are okay, soya no.

Drink only distilled water.

Do not drink the tap water and carry a bottle of the distilled with
you everywhere you can
Okay, all of the above is just for starters.
Do some 'duckduckgo' ing on the web and see what else you can research.
There's lots of info if you look for it.
CS is probably not the best choice for helping to eliminate candida
since, as someone has already pointed out, it's mostly for bacterial
and maybe viral issues.
Good ot have some hand tho'





On 7/18/13, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,
 I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas
 and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a
 ringworm in other parts of my body.
 My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves
 with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much
 as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in
 this matter...

 Regards
 Gidon




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Re: CSCandida

2013-07-18 Thread Alan Jones
Some experts say ACV is OK with Candida, others say it's not.  I have no
idea who is right but keep this in mind.


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:


 Use some apple cider vinigar on your foods and salad dressings.


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Re: CSCandida

2013-07-18 Thread Lena Guyot
I've heard that soaking rinsing your organic veggies in a bowl of good water 
with vinegar reduces a lot of the troublesome stuff. I also always rinse my 
berries in colloidal silver which lengthens their shelf life in the fridge by a 
lot.

Be well,
Léna

On Jul 18, 2013, at 8:44 AM, PT Ferrance wrote:

 How do you kill the microbes, cysts, insect eggs, critters and fungus on the 
 raw vegetables and fruits you eat?  Every vegan I have known has had their 
 health improve when they stopped being a pure vegan.
 Just something to think about.  Not looking to start an argument about the 
 benefits of being vegan.
 PT
 
 
 From: Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 6:42 AM
 Subject: CSCandida
 
 Hi All,
 I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas
 and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a
 ringworm in other parts of my body.
 My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves
 with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much
 as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in
 this matter...
 
 Regards
 Gidon 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSCandida

2013-07-18 Thread mborgert
be careful which acv you use.  Heinz in the gallon is corn ethanol, no 
apples.The one with the mother in it  some say that is a fungus.





 From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: CSCandida
 


Some experts say ACV is OK with Candida, others say it's not.  I have no idea 
who is right but keep this in mind.




On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:


Use some apple cider vinigar on your foods and salad dressings.


-- 
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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor 
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to 
the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) 

Re: CSCandida

2010-03-31 Thread Kathy Tankersley
Do  you have a place where you get the starter?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tel Tofflemire 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:16 PM
  Subject: Re: CSCandida



   
  Tel Tofflemire
  Dewey, AZ.





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  Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 2:11:12 PM
  Subject: Re: CSCandida


  No, Not really just for the (Candida, Fibermyalgia, Chronic Fatigue,) But 
Kefir is, its a Pro-Biotic Home made from starter seeds and whole milk, (Raw 
Milk if you can get it)
   
  Tel Tofflemire
  Dewey, AZ.





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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 6:45:34 AM
  Subject: CSCandida


  Hi All
  Is CS effective against candida?

  Thanks All
   
  Paul Steel

  h 508.520.6905

  c 508.922.0519

  The harder you work the luckier you get!









Re: CSCandida

2010-03-31 Thread Sandy
Hi Kathy,

I have kefir grains. If you're interested email me at hollis302...@yahoo.com.

Sandy

--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net wrote:

From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net
Subject: Re: CSCandida
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:56 AM



 
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Do  you have a place where you get the 
starter?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tel Tofflemire 
  
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:16 
  PM
  Subject: Re: CSCandida
  

  
  
  
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
  

  

  
  
  From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 2:11:12 
  PM
Subject: Re: 
  CSCandida


  
  
  No, Not really just for the (Candida, Fibermyalgia, Chronic Fatigue,) But 
  Kefir is, its a Pro-Biotic Home made from starter seeds and whole milk, (Raw 
  Milk if you can get it)
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
  

  

  
  
  From: Paul Steel 
  pste...@yahoo.com
To: 
  silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: 
  Tue, March 30, 2010 6:45:34 AM
Subject: CSCandida


  
  
  Hi All
  Is CS effective against candida?
   
  Thanks All
 
  Paul Steel
  h 
508.520.6905
  c 
508.922.0519
  The harder you work the 
  luckier you get!

   
  
  

  



  

Re: CSCandida Starter seeds

2010-03-31 Thread Tel Tofflemire
Yes, I get mine from..
 http://www.wildernessnaturals.com
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 4:56:43 AM
Subject: Re: CSCandida

 
Do  you have a place where you get the 
starter?
- Original Message - 
From: Tel Tofflemire 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:16 
  PM
Subject: Re: CSCandida



 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
 






 From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 2:11:12 
  PM
Subject: Re: 
  CSCandida


No, Not really just for the (Candida, Fibermyalgia, Chronic Fatigue,) But 
  Kefir is, its a Pro-Biotic Home made from starter seeds and whole milk, (Raw 
  Milk if you can get it)
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
 






 From: Paul Steel 
  pste...@yahoo.com
To:   silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent:   Tue, March 30, 2010 6:45:34 AM
Subject: CSCandida


Hi All
Is CS effective against candida?
 
Thanks All
 
Paul Steel
h 
508.520.6905
c 
508.922.0519
The harder you work the 
  luckier you get!

 




  

RE: CSCandida

2010-03-31 Thread Norton, Steve
You can get Water Kefir grains and Kombucha scabies here:

 

http://heal-thyself.ning.com/group/sharingstartercultures
http://heal-thyself.ning.com/group/sharingstartercultures 

 

-  Steve N

 

From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:tanke...@iland.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:57 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCandida

 

Do  you have a place where you get the starter?

- Original Message - 

From: Tel Tofflemire mailto:telt...@yahoo.com  

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:16 PM

Subject: Re: CSCandida

 


 

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ. 

 

 





From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 2:11:12 PM
Subject: Re: CSCandida

No, Not really just for the (Candida, Fibermyalgia, Chronic
Fatigue,) But Kefir is, its a Pro-Biotic Home made from starter seeds
and whole milk, (Raw Milk if you can get it)
 

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ. 



Re: CSCandida

2010-03-31 Thread Alan Jones
Yikes, methinks you meant scobies?  (I hope...)


On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.comwrote:

  You can get Water Kefir grains and Kombucha scabies here:



 http://heal-thyself.ning.com/group/sharingstartercultures



 -  Steve N


-- 
Alan Jones


Re: CSCandida

2010-03-31 Thread Donna

LOL
Donna ACS


Yikes, methinks you meant scobies?  (I hope...)


On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com 
mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote:


You can get Water Kefir grains and Kombucha scabies here:

http://heal-thyself.ning.com/group/sharingstartercultures

- Steve N


--
Alan Jones




CSCandida

2010-03-30 Thread Paul Steel
Hi All
Is CS effective against candida?

Thanks All
 
Paul Steel
h 508.520.6905
c 508.922.0519
The harder you work the luckier you get!

Re: CSCandida

2010-03-30 Thread Tel Tofflemire
No, tot really just for the Candida, Fibermyalgia, Chronic Fatigue, But Kefir 
is, its a Pro-Biotic Home made from starter seeds and whole milk, (Raw Milk if 
you can get it)
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 6:45:34 AM
Subject: CSCandida


Hi All
Is CS effective against candida?
 
Thanks All
 
Paul Steel
h 508.520.6905
c 508.922.0519
The harder you work the luckier you get!


  

Re: CSCandida

2010-03-30 Thread Tel Tofflemire

 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 2:11:12 PM
Subject: Re: CSCandida


No, Not really just for the (Candida, Fibermyalgia, Chronic Fatigue,) But Kefir 
is, its a Pro-Biotic Home made from starter seeds and whole milk, (Raw Milk if 
you can get it)
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 6:45:34 AM
Subject: CSCandida


Hi All
Is CS effective against candida?
 
Thanks All
 
Paul Steel
h 508.520.6905
c 508.922.0519
The harder you work the luckier you get!


  

Re: CSCandida

2010-03-30 Thread Tel Tofflemire

 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 2:11:12 PM
Subject: Re: CSCandida


No, Not really just for the (Candida, Fibermyalgia, Chronic Fatigue,)  But 
Kefir is, its a Pro-Biotic Home made from starter seeds and whole milk, (Raw 
Milk if you can get it)
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 6:45:34 AM
Subject: CSCandida


Hi All
Is CS effective against candida?
 
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Re: CScandida.

2009-10-13 Thread Smitty
friend diagnosed with candida.
any information that may be of help?

There's some info here =
http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=460

Smitty


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Re: CScandida.

2009-10-13 Thread Clayton Family
Antifungals are often prescribed, or one could go with herbal  
antifungals. The herxing from the die off can be brutal, so putting  
together a protocol for managing that is essential. Many find relief  
from enemas of one kind or another, because the toxins causing the  
herx get re-absorbed in the gut; so evacuating the gut can really  
help. Sweating is another route toxins can exit, again, wiping the  
sweat off immediately before it is re-absorbed is important.


I agree with Garnet about the supplements and probiotics- that helps  
both with the herx and the re-establishing of normal gut flora.


Often candida is lumped in with other fungal infections that are often  
present in the body, such as aspergillus, etc, so that can affect the   
die off, etc. It may be important to go slowly with the antifungals,  
to keep the die off manageable. But however one looks at it, it is a  
mountain that must be climbed to get to the other side, no way around  
it. It is important not to give up too soon, if the herxing is bad.


Good luck,  Kathryn

On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:11 PM, Roger Barker wrote:

Just met up with a friend in town who has been diagnosed with  
candida. He asked me to do a search on the net for treatment  
suggestions. I'm sure CS would go a long way towards helping him so  
wonder if anyone has got any information that may be of help?


Cheers,  Roger B
NZ



Re: CScandida.

2009-10-13 Thread Del
It is common knowledge that sugar, and empty carbs in general, feeds candida.
Does anyone know if Xylitol does the same?
We switched to Xylitol several years ago.  I tried other things, but I could 
not tolerate stevia and have doubts about agave nectar.  We use Xylitol 
whenever sweetening is called for, mostly coffee and tea. homemade jam, baked 
goods, etc.
I was under the impression that Xylitol was helpful in getting rid of Candida.
That is based on this paragraph from one web site:

An interesting exception to this rule is Xylitol.  Dr. Ward Dean states that 
this sweetener is not metabolized by humans OR yeast: Yeast gobble it up, 
thinking they're getting sugar, and die. He considers it one of the best 
anti-candida strategies! However, I must add a cautionary note, since it 
appears that for some, Xylitol is a problem.  Note that most Xylitol available 
now is made from corn cobs, rather than the original Birch Bark.

We only used pure Birch sugar from Finland, very expensive, but I think worth 
it since I can't drink coffee or tea without a teaspoon of sweetener, and I 
have heard that most other forms of Xylitol are made from corn in China..

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Life-Sweetener-powder/dp/B000153A9M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=hpcqid=1255455206sr=8-1

Del


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  Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:56 AM
  Subject: Re: CScandida.


  Antifungals are often prescribed, or one could go with herbal antifungals. 
The herxing from the die off can be brutal, so putting together a protocol for 
managing that is essential. Many find relief from enemas of one kind or 
another, because the toxins causing the herx get re-absorbed in the gut; so 
evacuating the gut can really help. Sweating is another route toxins can exit, 
again, wiping the sweat off immediately before it is re-absorbed is important. 


  I agree with Garnet about the supplements and probiotics- that helps both 
with the herx and the re-establishing of normal gut flora.


  Often candida is lumped in with other fungal infections that are often 
present in the body, such as aspergillus, etc, so that can affect the  die off, 
etc. It may be important to go slowly with the antifungals, to keep the die off 
manageable. But however one looks at it, it is a mountain that must be climbed 
to get to the other side, no way around it. It is important not to give up too 
soon, if the herxing is bad.


  Good luck,  Kathryn


  On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:11 PM, Roger Barker wrote:


Just met up with a friend in town who has been diagnosed with candida. He 
asked me to do a search on the net for treatment suggestions. I'm sure CS would 
go a long way towards helping him so wonder if anyone has got any information 
that may be of help?

Cheers,  Roger B
NZ



Re: CScandida.

2009-10-13 Thread Tel Tofflemire
I sent a page on Colloidal silver a couple days ago, CS will help Candida, (the 
beginning stage of fibermyalga) Also Kefir will help kill Candida, which is an 
over growth of bad bacteria. Look up the word Kefir on the web, lots of info.

Tel Tofflemire

Dewey, AZ.

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Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 3:46 AM

friend diagnosed with candida.
any information that may be of help?

There's some info here =
http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=460

Smitty


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Re: CScandida.

2009-10-13 Thread Roger Barker
My thanks to all who replied to my candida question. I've printed  
out all the information and will pass it on.  Tel, thanks for  
mentioning kefir. I've been making and using if for quite some time  
now so will certainly be passing on some 'grains' to my friend.


Cheers to all,  Roger B
NZ



CScandida.

2009-10-12 Thread Roger Barker
Just met up with a friend in town who has been diagnosed with  
candida. He asked me to do a search on the net for treatment  
suggestions. I'm sure CS would go a long way towards helping him so  
wonder if anyone has got any information that may be of help?


Cheers,  Roger B
NZ


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Re: CScandida.

2009-10-12 Thread Garnet
Treating Candida is a science and there are many lists 
devoted to the topic.
Personally I found urine retention enemas very effective. 
Also the book Allergies and
Candida by Rochlitz has a set of meridian balancing 
exercises that were very
helpful. They are brain body and left right integration 
maneuvers you can do

at home.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urine_therapy for more 
information on this ancient

therapy.

Molybdenum is essential for dealing with the herxing from 
Candida die off. Liquid

probiotics, very high count are also essential.

Garnet


http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information
Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Roger Barker wrote:
Just met up with a friend in town who has been diagnosed with candida. 
He asked me to do a search on the net for treatment suggestions. I'm 
sure CS would go a long way towards helping him so wonder if anyone has 
got any information that may be of help?


Cheers,  Roger B
NZ


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CSCandida and the brain

2009-09-08 Thread Rowena

http://www.candidafree.net/resource_36.htm


   The effects of yeast overgrowth and Autism, ADD, ADHD,
   Tourette's, headaches, fatigue, depression and schizophrenia

Bruce Semon, M.D., Ph.D.

The yeast /Candida albicans/ affects the brain directly by producing 
toxic chemicals that slow down the brain. I call this the 'toxic 
chemical slowdown.'


To better understand, know that the yeast /Candida albicans/ is a normal 
resident inside of our intestinal tract. This yeast can also be found at 
times in the mouth and in the birth canal. Sometimes this yeast 
overgrows and the doctor recognizes this overgrowth of yeast as a yeast 
infection of the birth canal or in the mouth, where this infection is 
commonly called thrush.


Bacteria are also resident inside the intestinal tract, sharing space 
with the yeast. After the use of antibiotics the yeast grow to fill in 
the space left by the removal of the bacteria. Even after the 
antibiotics have been stopped, the yeast continue to grow at a higher 
level.


Pregnancy and the use of birth control pills can also make yeast grow more.

Yeast make a number of chemical compounds which are then picked up and 
absorbed into the body. These compounds are quite toxic to the nervous 
system. These compounds include toxic alcohols and aldehydes, as well as 
the powerful nervous system poison hydrogen sulfide (editor's note: this 
is a totally different substance than hyrodgen sulfate). Alcohols 
depress the nervous system and at least some aldehydes are anesthetic 
agents, which of course put the brain to sleep. These chemicals slow the 
brain down so that the brain no longer works correctly. These chemicals 
should be cleared by the liver so that these chemicals never reach the 
brain.


However in some people, these chemicals are apparently not cleared, 
reach the brain, and cause mental symptoms. If such chemicals start to 
act early in life, the result is autism, an illness in which the brain 
functions do not develop properly.


If such compounds start to act later, Attention Deficit-Hyperactivity 
Disorder (ADHD) may result. Later in life, depression and schizophrenia 
may occur. These chemical compounds are toxic to humans and can cause 
such problems as headaches, fatigue and depression. Pregnancy and the 
use of birth control pills can also make yeast grow more. From the 
intestinal tract, /Candida albicans/ can release immunosuppressive 
factors, which again enable it to grow at a higher level. These 
immunosuppressive factors will circulate and prevent the body's immune 
system from responding to and clearing yeast at other sites, such as the 
birth canal. So even after an anti-fungal creme is applied to a yeast 
infection, the yeast which remain can grow back because the body's 
immune response to such yeast is suppressed by factors released by 
/Candida/ in the intestinal tract. As long as the intestinal yeast is 
present and is making and releasing immunosuppressive factors, the 
body's immune system will have a difficult time clearing yeast from that 
area of the body. To clear yeast from that area, the yeast in the 
intestinal tract need to be cleared first.




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Re: CSCandida and the brain

2009-09-08 Thread Clayton Family
Many fungal infections present as candida, which may be aspergillus  
over growth, or many other funguses that can colonize the body. Even  
so, the treatment can be the same.


Kathryn


On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Rowena wrote:


http://www.candidafree.net/resource_36.htm


  The effects of yeast overgrowth and Autism, ADD, ADHD,
  Tourette's, headaches, fatigue, depression and schizophrenia

Bruce Semon, M.D., Ph.D.

The yeast /Candida albicans/ affects the brain directly by  
producing toxic chemicals that slow down the brain. I call this the  
'toxic chemical slowdown.'


To better understand, know that the yeast /Candida albicans/ is a  
normal resident inside of our intestinal tract. Thi




Re: CScandida - again ,,,, Try KEFIR

2009-07-07 Thread Tel Tofflemire
Home made kefir works wonders on candida (yeast infection)

Tel Tofflemire

Dewey, AZ.

--- On Mon, 7/6/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:

From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Subject: Re: CScandida - again
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 12:22 PM

The clay can help adsorb the toxins in the gut, as can activated charcoal. Many 
with fungal issues do not tolerate clays.

The coconut oil has natural antifungal qualitites, as does oil of oregano 
(oreganol brand) and I have heard olive leaf also.

With all of these, trying them out at small doses is important to see how one's 
body will react. When I started the antifungal, I really felt like I was going 
to die, the die off from the fungal infection was so bad. At the time I did not 
know the importance of using charcoal for binding the toxins, and keeping the 
colon moving to physically remove them ASAP. Some use enemas, others use Epsom 
salts to move it.


Also sweating can help with that, but again removing the sweat immediately is 
important, as the toxins sweated out will go right back in again.

Kathryn

On Jul 6, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Norton, Steve wrote:

 Reid,
 In addition to CS, I would use  bentonite clay and coconut oil daily for 
 several weeks. I prefer a non-swelling calcium bentonite clay. For coconut 
 oil you may find it easier to get coconut milk or cream. Coconut milk is 1/3 
 coconut oil and coconut cream is 2/3 coconut oil if I remember correctly.
   - Steve N
 
 From: A. Reid Harvey [mailto:reidhar...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:37 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CScandida - again
 
 Hi!
  
 As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is 
 anxious to know whether CS helps with this.  Can someone please let me know?  
 Or what other alternatives may be available?
  
 Many thanks.
 Reid


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Re: CScandida - again

2009-07-07 Thread Tel Tofflemire

Try home made Kefir, yeast infection is most often caused from too much 
antibotics for too long. Kefir is a natural Probiotic. easy to make at home,
Tel Tofflemire

Dewey, AZ.

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Subject: CScandida - again
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 10:36 AM





 
Hi!

 

As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is anxious 
to know whether CS helps with this.  Can someone please let me know?  Or what 
other alternatives may be available?

 

Many thanks.

Reid

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CScandida - again

2009-07-06 Thread A. Reid Harvey

Hi!

 

As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is anxious 
to know whether CS helps with this.  Can someone please let me know?  Or what 
other alternatives may be available?

 

Many thanks.

Reid

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Re: CScandida - again

2009-07-06 Thread Clayton Family

Hello Reid,

I thought maybe you had found some info on this already, so I waited to 
respond.


The candida diagnosis is not a simple thing in some ways- candida can 
be a fungal infection ( yeast is related to fungus) and so anti-fungal 
protocols are usually good for this. There are extensive protocols on 
the web for that, and it can include completely changing your diet ( it 
loves sugar and simple carbs), taking some type of antifungal (rx or 
herbal), and detoxing both the body and the bowel (there are toxins 
released when it dies, just like any fungus, and they are re-absorbed 
in the colon, so getting it out is a good idea, as one feels much 
better faster that way).


I do take CS to help with my fungal issues, but a more multi faceted 
approach is necessary.


Best Wishes,   Kathryn

On Jul 6, 2009, at 11:36 AM, A. Reid Harvey wrote:


 Hi!
  
 As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in her family, and 
is anxious to know whether CS helps with this.  Can someone please let 
me know?  Or what other alternatives may be available?

  
 Many thanks.
 Reid



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RE: CScandida - again

2009-07-06 Thread Norton, Steve
Reid,
In addition to CS, I would use  bentonite clay and coconut oil daily for
several weeks. I prefer a non-swelling calcium bentonite clay. For
coconut oil you may find it easier to get coconut milk or cream. Coconut
milk is 1/3 coconut oil and coconut cream is 2/3 coconut oil if I
remember correctly.
  - Steve N



From: A. Reid Harvey [mailto:reidhar...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:37 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CScandida - again


Hi!
 
As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is
anxious to know whether CS helps with this.  Can someone please let me
know?  Or what other alternatives may be available?
 
Many thanks.
Reid



Re: CScandida - again

2009-07-06 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
I don't think that CS would help candida Reid, except for maybe keeping
other bacteria and viruses down so the body can help itself better.  I'm not
sure on this though, so maybe someone more knowledgeable can help.  I do
believe candida is a very tough customer to get rid of.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: A. Reid Harvey
Date: 06/07/2009 17:37:03
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CScandida - again
 
Hi!
 
As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is
anxious to know whether CS helps with this.  Can someone please let me know?
 Or what other alternatives may be available?
 
Many thanks.
Reid



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Re: CScandida - again

2009-07-06 Thread Clayton Family
The clay can help adsorb the toxins in the gut, as can activated 
charcoal. Many with fungal issues do not tolerate clays.


The coconut oil has natural antifungal qualitites, as does oil of 
oregano (oreganol brand) and I have heard olive leaf also.


With all of these, trying them out at small doses is important to see 
how one's body will react. When I started the antifungal, I really felt 
like I was going to die, the die off from the fungal infection was so 
bad. At the time I did not know the importance of using charcoal for 
binding the toxins, and keeping the colon moving to physically remove 
them ASAP. Some use enemas, others use Epsom salts to move it.



Also sweating can help with that, but again removing the sweat 
immediately is important, as the toxins sweated out will go right back 
in again.


Kathryn

On Jul 6, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Norton, Steve wrote:


Reid,
In addition to CS, I would use  bentonite clay and coconut oil daily 
for several weeks. I prefer a non-swelling calcium bentonite clay. For 
coconut oil you may find it easier to get coconut milk or cream. 
Coconut milk is 1/3 coconut oil and coconut cream is 2/3 coconut oil 
if I remember correctly.

  - Steve N

From: A. Reid Harvey [mailto:reidhar...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:37 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CScandida - again

Hi!
 
As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and 
is anxious to know whether CS helps with this.  Can someone please let 
me know?  Or what other alternatives may be available?

 
Many thanks.
Reid



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Re: CScandida - again

2009-07-06 Thread Harold MacDonald
Does pertain to Candida,besides other important problems.
Harold

Feeding mice butyric acid improved their ability to burn fat on a high fat 
diet. The butyric acid improved their muscle function, health of brown adipose 
tissue, and various gene signals involved with fatty acid metabolism. Butyric 
acid also prevented insulin resistance from happening in these over-fed mice. 

This study was published in Diabetes, the journal of the American Diabetes 
Association. It is both humorous and informative. Humorous because there is no 
mention of the primary food in the American diet that contains butyric acid, 
i.e., butter. Informative because it lends more information to an ever-growing 
body of information that is telling us that your gut is intimately associated 
with your metabolism. 

Butyric acid is made in large amounts in your lower colon when friendly flora 
(acidophilus) ferment fiber and produce it. Butyric acid is the primary fatty 
acid required for repair of your digestive lining, prevention of cells turning 
cancerous in your colon, and now – as a metabolic booster for the improved 
metabolism of fat around your body. 

If you colon gets out of balance with too many hostile bacteria or Candida, 
then your production of butyric acid declines as toxic byproducts increase. 
This not only slows your metabolism but increases your colon to risks for other 
problems, including irritable bowel. 

Part of health, and part of healthy metabolism, is having your gut in really 
good working condition. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: A. Reid Harvey 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:36 AM
  Subject: CScandida - again


  Hi!
   
  As I had mentioned, a friend of mine has candida in here family, and is 
anxious to know whether CS helps with this.  Can someone please let me know?  
Or what other alternatives may be available?
   
  Many thanks.
  Reid


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CSCandida - does CS work against this? Or what?

2009-07-05 Thread A. Reid Harvey

Hi Everybody,

 

I have a friend, in whose family there is candida.  Can someone please tell me, 
is CS (EIS) effective against this?  And/ or are there other altrnatives?

 

Thanks!

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CSCandida

2009-05-07 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
Can anyone tell me if they have heard of any success using CS with candida 
please?  deefaint_grain.jpg

Re: CSCandida

2009-05-07 Thread M1marine


 
In a message dated 5/7/2009 4:29:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
d...@deetroy.org writes:

Can anyone tell me  if they have heard of any success using CS with candida 
please?   dee


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CScandida to kathryn

2008-01-21 Thread zeb caffe
Are you doubting candida as a health issue, or just the theory that dmso helps 
candida? I agree that many pathogenic substances or different fungi can be 
mistaken for candida but also I believe that candida is a very real health 
problem.  My only experience with dmso has been to use it for jaw infection and 
also for bladder cystitis.Both times, I felt very clear headed and did at the 
time contribute it to possibly having something to do with killing fungus but I 
really am just guessing here. I would be interested in knowing what you thought 
about this.
   
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Re: CScandida to kathryn

2008-01-21 Thread Clayton Family
Neither.  It is just that for so  many years practitioners were 
ascribing symptoms to candida or systemic candida when there was little 
evidence for it being candida specifically. There are perhaps a dozen 
pathogenic fungi that can take up residence in the body, some of them 
being MUCH more serious than candida. Since the body tends to cross 
react to many similar substances, a reaction that is to some fungus 
will be similar to another fungus. This is a principle found by allergy 
theory, esp food and environemental allergy/ sensitivity drs. 
Similarly, if a person is sensitive to one type of chemical, they will 
also likely to react to others in a similar chemical family, like 
petrochemicals for example.


So maybe they were right in a way, many symptoms can be from a fungal  
problem, but might be aspergillus in stead of candida. They are likely 
to cause similar problems, however, asp seems to invade many more 
systems than candida does. Another thought is that some of these fungi 
are toxin factories all by themselves, without any outside added toxins 
needed to make someone extremely ill with a toxin illness. Some are 
worse than others, too.  My own experience has been that the problem 
was from a much worse fungal infection, so if the symptoms were very 
bad, I would think it was from a different fungi. Not sure how much 
difference it makes when you are treating it, since what kills one 
ought to kill the rest of them too. The difference would be in severity 
of illness, and measures to reduce the detox and herks reactions.


I have not used dmso personally (at least on purpose, I have spilled 
some on me before  :-) so I am not sure what you are asking about it's 
use. The vets I used to work for used it to carry drugs into the body 
of the horses they treated. That is about all I know about it. Has it 
helped you much, and did you use it as a carrier for something else?


Kathryn

On Jan 21, 2008, at 12:32 PM, zeb caffe wrote:

Are you doubting candida as a health issue, or just the theory that 
dmso helps candida? I agree that many pathogenic substances or 
different fungi can be mistaken for candida but also I believe that 
candida is a very real health problem.  My only experience with dmso 
has been to use it for jaw infection and also for bladder 
cystitis.Both times, I felt very clear headed and did at the time 
contribute it to possibly having something to do with killing fungus 
but I really am just guessing here. I would be interested in knowing 
what you thought about this.
 


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CSCandida

2007-10-10 Thread Faith Saint Francis

Hello!
 
Luz and Leo here.
 
We are out-of-the country, working on the promotion of Reflexology, on the 
Netherlands Antilles' island of Bonaire (Caribbean Sea). We're almost through, 
just a couple of days more, to go home, to our appartment in Medellin.
 
After two workshops and many many clients we heard of someone with candida, and 
she seems to be in a pretty bad state.
 
Can anyone give us the key to the Candida thread (or any files), so that we can 
inform this lady, whom we would really want to have on this Forum also, but 
that is up to her.
 
Thank you all in advance,
 
Take Care, 
 
Luz y Leo
 
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Re: CSCandida

2007-10-10 Thread Smitty
  Can anyone give us the key to the Candida thread (or any files), so that we
 can inform this lady, whom we would really want to have on this Forum also,
 but that is up to her.
  Luz y Leo

You might try the Candida forum here =

http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=460

Smitty


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CScandida to ernie

2005-06-28 Thread Betsy Coffey
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RE: CScandida to ernie

2005-06-28 Thread Ernie Patai
Yes, I wrote a general description of what I was recommended to do from
the nutritionist.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:03 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CScandida to ernie

Did you post somewhere how you recovered from candida?






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Re: CScandida to ernie

2005-06-28 Thread G K Murray

Where is it?

G Murray

Ernie Patai wrote:


Yes, I wrote a general description of what I was recommended to do from
the nutritionist.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:03 AM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CScandida to ernie

Did you post somewhere how you recovered from candida?




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RE: CScandida to ernie

2005-06-28 Thread Ernie Patai
Ok, here it is again. :-)

I was told to switch to organic veggies. I was doing lots of veggie
juicing and was only allowed to mix a small apple with it.( avoid the
sugar)Limited fruits. For salad dressing: lemon and organic extra virgin
olive oil. I could not eat anything processed: refined foods of any
nature. No sugar, yeast, gluten, nothing enriched. NO BREAD, with the
exception of organic rye or spelt.(nothing added) No whole wheat
products. No potatoes, no mushrooms.( nothing with starch or mold) no
peanut butter. That includes certain nuts as well. I was allowed to eat
almonds. Moderately ( skin can be toxic in large quantities)NO
DIARY,(butter was ok preferably a natural butter substitute ( can't
remember the name ) I just used butter myself. no coffee,( I cheated a
little ). NO ALCHOHOL, I was taking whole psyllium husks, to compensate
for the drop in fibre intake. Also took human Microflora. EFA as well.
Multi vitamin 3 times daily. No soy products, no corn products either
(also contain mold). Some thought I was crazy especially during the
summer months..To much temptation for a good time. :-)
I succeeded though.


Keep in mind I was taking other things because I also had to adjust and
correct a couple other problems. I would still seek the qualifications
of a cert. nutritionist who does blood cell microscopy just to make sure
you have it and can also determine if there is something more then just
cadida.

Hope this helps some.

ernie


Subject: Re: CScandida to ernie

Where is it?

G Murray

Ernie Patai wrote:

Yes, I wrote a general description of what I was recommended to do from
the nutritionist.




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Re: CScandida to ernie

2005-06-28 Thread FRANK CUNS-RIAL

The best treatment I have found for Candida is:
1/Proteolitic enzymes 3x3
2/Grapefruit seed extract (GSE conc)15 drops in 8 oz of distilled water 5x a 
day.
3/ CS 5-10 ppm 1 oz.x5 a day. Swirl in your mouth for one minute then 
swallow. Make sure you have no metal objects in your mouth (dentures, etc) 
If caps try to avoid touching CS.

4/Oil of Oregano extract  caps (Biotics ADP) 3x3
5/ Candida diet. amply discussed already.
6/ The above protocol for two months. Follow with strong probiotics for one 
month 3Billionx6 before retiring to recolonize.

Candida will not go away but will arrest it for sure.
One very common problem is re-contamination. Treat with sex partner the same 
way!

PS Localized UTI
The active ingredient in cranberry is d-mannose a compound which prevents 
adhesion of Candida to the epithelial wall. It can also be obtained by 
taking Xylitol.

Regards
Frank Cuns-Rial
- Original Message - 
From: Ernie Patai epa...@sympatico.ca

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:22 PM
Subject: RE: CScandida to ernie



Ok, here it is again. :-)

I was told to switch to organic veggies. I was doing lots of veggie
juicing and was only allowed to mix a small apple with it.( avoid the
sugar)Limited fruits. For salad dressing: lemon and organic extra virgin
olive oil. I could not eat anything processed: refined foods of any
nature. No sugar, yeast, gluten, nothing enriched. NO BREAD, with the
exception of organic rye or spelt.(nothing added) No whole wheat
products. No potatoes, no mushrooms.( nothing with starch or mold) no
peanut butter. That includes certain nuts as well. I was allowed to eat
almonds. Moderately ( skin can be toxic in large quantities)NO
DIARY,(butter was ok preferably a natural butter substitute ( can't
remember the name ) I just used butter myself. no coffee,( I cheated a
little ). NO ALCHOHOL, I was taking whole psyllium husks, to compensate
for the drop in fibre intake. Also took human Microflora. EFA as well.
Multi vitamin 3 times daily. No soy products, no corn products either
(also contain mold). Some thought I was crazy especially during the
summer months..To much temptation for a good time. :-)
I succeeded though.


Keep in mind I was taking other things because I also had to adjust and
correct a couple other problems. I would still seek the qualifications
of a cert. nutritionist who does blood cell microscopy just to make sure
you have it and can also determine if there is something more then just
cadida.

Hope this helps some.

ernie


Subject: Re: CScandida to ernie

Where is it?

G Murray

Ernie Patai wrote:


Yes, I wrote a general description of what I was recommended to do from
the nutritionist.





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RE: CScandida to ernie

2005-06-28 Thread Ernie Patai
Yes forgot to mention grape fruit seed extract and also was taking a
parasitic cleans capsule form. Oil of oregano as well in drop form.
You have to forgive me it's been a while and forgot some things.

-Original Message-
From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL [mailto:f...@atlanticbb.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScandida to ernie

The best treatment I have found for Candida is:
1/Proteolitic enzymes 3x3
2/Grapefruit seed extract (GSE conc)15 drops in 8 oz of distilled water
5x a 
day.
3/ CS 5-10 ppm 1 oz.x5 a day. Swirl in your mouth for one minute then 
swallow. Make sure you have no metal objects in your mouth (dentures,
etc) 
If caps try to avoid touching CS.
4/Oil of Oregano extract  caps (Biotics ADP) 3x3
5/ Candida diet. amply discussed already.
6/ The above protocol for two months. Follow with strong probiotics for
one 
month 3Billionx6 before retiring to recolonize.
Candida will not go away but will arrest it for sure.
One very common problem is re-contamination. Treat with sex partner the
same 
way!
 


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Re: CSCandida and its cure

2005-06-28 Thread Rowena
  From what I've read Candida does extensive damage; both physically and 
mentally and is usually mistaken as something else.  I  confused as how one 
would apply C.S. internally  as the comment make it sound like it needs to 
be rubbed into the skin.The red beet idea shoulds great as I love beets yet 
I'm unsure as to how this will eradicate the candida.  

   http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C7890.html#G113#G113  says in part: 
  Candida albicans is an opportunistic yeast that normally inhabits the mouth, 
throat, intestines and genitourinary tract of most humans and is usually 
considered to be a normal part of the bowel flora (the organisms that coexist 
with us in our lower digestive tract). However, it may become pathogenic when 
there is a disturbance in the balance of flora, or a debilitation of the host 
from other causes.

   The job of Candida albicans is to recognize and destroy harmful bacteria: 
Without it, we would be defenseless against many pathogenic bacteria. In a 
healthy person, Candida albicans numbers in the millions and is controlled by a 
properly-functioning immune system and friendly bacteria. However, if the 
number of friendly bacteria is decreased, the immune system is weakened, or 
other conditions for yeast proliferation occur (diet high in sugar, improper pH 
in the digestive system) Candida albicans will shift from yeast form to 
mycelial fungal form and start to invade the body.

  Somewhere on the net there is a picture of candida overgrowth in the 
intestines which illustrates the problem it would be.  Some people who have had 
it treated say they passed it, I think on colon cleanse, and that it looked 
like a chunk of cotton wool.  

  I had it diagnosed recently by my naturopath, a test from a drop of blood.  
Just took a few minutes.  She put me on the candida diet.
  Just before that, my homeopath had also detected it (as usual! but not too 
bad) using the computer assisted electro dermal screening program Interro.  
This also made the homeopathic remedy by passing the appropriate current 
through a bottle of water.
  I believe there are herbal / natural Candida remedies on the market called 
something like Candex; a search would likely bring those up.  Also, a HFS might 
be able to give you an over the counter candida remedy, depending on where you 
live.  I recall also that iodine is used against Candida.  Certainly CS would 
be part of an anti-Candida regimen, whether taken orally or used as a douche 
internally.  I believe some also have used it with an enema to reach the lower 
portions of the digestive tract.
  Rowena


Re: CSCandida and its cure

2005-06-28 Thread Rowena
Oh, and also, Connie, yes, coconut OIL is highly recommended in a variety of 
places for Candida.
I have been told that it is better to take the fresh coconut water only if you 
can get it fresh, as it is transported without its husk and is more vulnerable 
that way to deterioration.
A light, pleasant, fragrant oil is easier to take than some of the darker, 
smellier ones, so test before you buy to make sure it suits you.  Or test by 
buying a small quantity.  Use freshly pressed virgin coconut oil rather than 
refined, bleached and deodorised oil made from copra and hydrogenated.  
I get Kokonut oil, available in America from 
http://www.alphahealth.ca/coconut.html ALpha Health Products Ltd., 7434 Fraser 
Park Drive, Burnaby, BC V5J 5B9Tel: (604) 436-0545, Fax: (604) 435-4862, Toll 
free: 1-800-663-2212
e-mail: conta...@alphahealth.ca
I get mine from the Australian supplier, http://www.kokonutpacific.com.au/
REgards
Rowena


Re: CSCandida: an Answer

2005-06-27 Thread M. G. Devour
Candida overgrowth is systemic and internal. Not the same as a vaginal 
yeast infection.

Mike D.

 Hi my Friends!
 Following the Candida thread, my wife came up with this possibility:
 Pour two spoonfuls of vinegar into one liter of pure water. Mix well,
 and with this water you bathe the vagina internally. This do once in two
 weeks (twice monthly). That's it, see the results. Hoping we help, Luz
 and Faith, licensed Reflexologists, Healing Hands.

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CSCandida and its cure

2005-06-27 Thread Faith Saint Francis

MIke Devour wrote:

Candida overgrowth is systemic and internal. Not the same as a vaginal

yeast infection.
My wife was not mistakenly mentioning Vaginal Candida (Candidiasis). If it 
be systemic, the cure can be sustained by any form of applying f.e. C.S. It 
is then, however a failure in the defense system fungi in the vaginal area), 
which should be worked on. For normally Candida can live in the system 
without causing any damage.
If there is a systemic problem (like low defenses), the answer would 
logically be to enhance these defenses, which can be done by taking 
chorophyl, which exists under many brands .. or fresh spinach, nuts, 
mandarines, tropical pineapple, roots, and there is one quite natural 
remedy, which is to cook a (red) beet in a little water and to drink this 
for fifteen days.

Also one can take foods rich in phosphorus, like pumpkin, and its seeds.
Almost all the green vegatables contain sufficient minerals which help the 
defense system. But sleeping well, i.e. sufficient hours, is a good cure 
also, as well as exercising, and lowering the stress-levels as well as one 
can.

Luz,
Licensed Reflexologist,
Alimentary Advisor,
Healing Hands

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RE: CSCandida: an Answer

2005-06-27 Thread Faith Saint Francis

Please see our answer (Candida and its cure), recently sent.
Fact is that the man can far more easily reach his organ, and be CLEAN, than 
a lady.

AND: Here also, there may be a failure in the defense-system,
Luz and Faith
Healing Hands
(If you are capable of expressing yourself in Spanish, my wife would love to 
attend)



From: Ernie Patai epa...@sympatico.ca
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCandida: an Answer
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:03:01 -0400

Well that's just hilarious What is the possibility for men, Do they
bath their Manginas?

-Original Message-
From: Faith Saint Francis [mailto:faithstfran...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:29 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCandida: an Answer

Hi my Friends!
Following the Candida thread, my wife came up with this possibility:
Pour two spoonfuls of vinegar into one liter of pure water.
Mix well, and with this water you bathe the vagina internally.
This do once in two weeks (twice monthly).
That's it, see the results.
Hoping we help,
Luz and Faith,
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Healing Hands.

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RE: CSCandida: an Answer

2005-06-27 Thread Ernie Patai
Candida overgrowth is systemic and internal. Not the same as a vaginal 
yeast infection.

Mike D.

Subject: RE: CSCandida: an Answer

Please see our answer (Candida and its cure), recently sent.
Fact is that the man can far more easily reach his organ, and be CLEAN,
than 
a lady.
AND: Here also, there may be a failure in the defense-system,
Luz and Faith
Healing Hands
(If you are capable of expressing yourself in Spanish, my wife would
love to 
attend)

I would have to agree with Mike on this. It is internal and not an
external issue even though a womans genitals are internal. It seems from
your wifes plausible cure that we would need to address candida
overgrowth from the inside and not from the outside in.

As I have been cured of it in this manner.

Regards,

ernie 


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Re: CSCandida and its cure

2005-06-27 Thread Connie Howard
Now I'm really getting confused...   Candida can live in the system
without causing any damage
 the cure can be
sustained by any form of applying f.e.  C.S. 

From what I've read Candida does extensive damage; both physically and
mentally and is usually mistaken as something else.  When I approached
the VA Doctors they had no clue.  

I  confused as how one would apply C.S. internally  as the comment
make it sound like it needs to be rubbed into the skin.The red beet
idea shoulds great as I love beets yet I'm unsure as to how this will
eradicate the candida.  

Maybe I just don't understand.

thanks
connie


On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:11:28 -0400 Faith Saint Francis
faithstfran...@hotmail.com writes:
 MIke Devour wrote:
 Candida overgrowth is systemic and internal. Not the same as a 
 vaginal
 yeast infection.
 My wife was not mistakenly mentioning Vaginal Candida (Candidiasis). 
 If it 
 be systemic,  is then, however a failure in the defense system fungi
in the 
 vaginal area), 
 which should be worked on. For normally  If there is a systemic
problem (like low defenses), the answer would 
 
 logically be to enhance these defenses, which can be done by taking 
 
 chorophyl, which exists under many brands .. or fresh spinach, nuts, 
 
 mandarines, tropical pineapple, roots, and there is one quite 
 natural 
 remedy, which is to cook a (red) beet in a little water and to drink 
 this 
 for fifteen days.
 Also one can take foods rich in phosphorus, like pumpkin, and its 
 seeds.
 Almost all the green vegatables contain sufficient minerals which 
 help the 
 defense system. But sleeping well, i.e. sufficient hours, is a good 
 cure 
 also, as well as exercising, and lowering the stress-levels as well 
 as one 
 can.
 Luz,
 Licensed Reflexologist,
 Alimentary Advisor,
 Healing Hands
 
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Re: CSCandida and its cure

2005-06-27 Thread Faith Saint Francis

..Doctors so often have no clue ..
FSF


From: Connie Howard craehow...@juno.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCandida and its cure
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:57:42 -0700

Now I'm really getting confused...   Candida can live in the system
without causing any damage
 the cure can be
sustained by any form of applying f.e.  C.S. 

From what I've read Candida does extensive damage; both physically and
mentally and is usually mistaken as something else.  When I approached
the VA Doctors they had no clue.

I  confused as how one would apply C.S. internally  as the comment
make it sound like it needs to be rubbed into the skin.The red beet
idea shoulds great as I love beets yet I'm unsure as to how this will
eradicate the candida.

Maybe I just don't understand.

thanks
connie


On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:11:28 -0400 Faith Saint Francis
faithstfran...@hotmail.com writes:
 MIke Devour wrote:
 Candida overgrowth is systemic and internal. Not the same as a
 vaginal
 yeast infection.
 My wife was not mistakenly mentioning Vaginal Candida (Candidiasis).
 If it
 be systemic,  is then, however a failure in the defense system fungi
in the
 vaginal area),
 which should be worked on. For normally  If there is a systemic
problem (like low defenses), the answer would

 logically be to enhance these defenses, which can be done by taking

 chorophyl, which exists under many brands .. or fresh spinach, nuts,

 mandarines, tropical pineapple, roots, and there is one quite
 natural
 remedy, which is to cook a (red) beet in a little water and to drink
 this
 for fifteen days.
 Also one can take foods rich in phosphorus, like pumpkin, and its
 seeds.
 Almost all the green vegatables contain sufficient minerals which
 help the
 defense system. But sleeping well, i.e. sufficient hours, is a good
 cure
 also, as well as exercising, and lowering the stress-levels as well
 as one
 can.
 Luz,
 Licensed Reflexologist,
 Alimentary Advisor,
 Healing Hands

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Re: CSCandida Questions

2005-06-27 Thread sol
Candida is linked to those things, and I have read that candida that is 
recurrent (keeps coming back after improvement on various treatments) 
can be one result of chronic Epstein-Barr.

sol

Connie Howard wrote:


Does anyone know if there is any test to determine one has Candida?  What
I've read just talks about symptoms.  Also I read that coconut water/milk
can kill the candida.  Candida can be linked to weight gain, depression
and a host of other symptoms...  Just wondering if anyone has some
insight on this.

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CSCandida Questions

2005-06-26 Thread Connie Howard
Does anyone know if there is any test to determine one has Candida?  What
I've read just talks about symptoms.  Also I read that coconut water/milk
can kill the candida.  Candida can be linked to weight gain, depression
and a host of other symptoms...  Just wondering if anyone has some
insight on this.

thanks


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Re: CSCandida Questions

2005-06-26 Thread Kate Strong

Hi there,

Do a search in google, there is a simple test where you spit into a glass 
of water and wait ten minutes and if memory serves me right if you have 
candida then little branches start to form in shape. Candida is a huge 
subject and theres a group at yahoo. Its hit or miss what helps it, diet is 
vitally important. Also, its often said that yeast forms around heavy 
metals in your body to protect the body.


Kate

At 06:53 AM 6/27/2005, you wrote:

Does anyone know if there is any test to determine one has Candida?  What
I've read just talks about symptoms.  Also I read that coconut water/milk
can kill the candida.  Candida can be linked to weight gain, depression
and a host of other symptoms...  Just wondering if anyone has some
insight on this.

thanks



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RE: CSCandida Questions

2005-06-26 Thread Ernie Patai


-Original Message-
From: Connie Howard [mailto:craehow...@juno.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 2:54 PM
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Subject: CSCandida Questions

Does anyone know if there is any test to determine one has Candida?
What
I've read just talks about symptoms.  Also I read that coconut
water/milk
can kill the candida.  Candida can be linked to weight gain, depression
and a host of other symptoms...  Just wondering if anyone has some
insight on this.

thanks


Yes, live blood cell microscopy. This is one effective way to determine
if you have Candida overgrowth. Either see a nutritionist or homeopath
that has experience with this.

Regards,

Ernie


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