Re: CSColloid Master??
Yes, Sol, I will keep that in mind :-) Here is where I don't mind experimenting. Since my water is first filtered, then distilled, I'm gonna try leaving the suggested 1/4. With all of the information and feedback from the proffies on this list, I'm off to a good start. I might just experiment with the crud on the bottom, insteading of leaving a qurter of the water, I'll just leave the crud! Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:41 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Golden Aldi wrote: Sol, :-) I'm sold! LOL, just keep in mind that it may take a bit of experimentation to find the best amount to leave for seeding vs time reduction in processing. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
At 10:53 AM 3/5/2010, you wrote: Yes, Sol, I will keep that in mind :-) Here is where I don't mind experimenting. Since my water is first filtered, then distilled, I'm gonna try leaving the suggested 1/4. With all of the information and feedback from the proffies on this list, I'm off to a good start. I might just experiment with the crud on the bottom, insteading of leaving a qurter of the water, I'll just leave the crud! I always leave the crud, LOL. But when I have poured out everything except the crud, and then added pure distilled water, it hasn't speeded up the processing any here. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks Sol, and to others, suggesting I try seeding. My only reservation would have been, that I have less CS to use or give away, so I'll just use a larger container, which would probably make the brewing time longer, but probably, most likey, not all that much longer. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:23 AM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: It might depend on how much of the previous batch you leave behind to seed the next batch. I believe someone posted a long time ago a formula for this, might have been Terry Chamberlin? I think it was that leaving 1/4 of the previous batch will reduce brewing time by 2/3 or similar, I can't remember it exactly, but since I first read it I have always left approx 1/4 of the previous batch. At first it may seem like this wastes CS you could be using, but for me it speeds up the brewing time so much it is worth it. It may be pertinent that I need to start with distilled water that is very pure. So if I didn't seed a batch at all, it will take a very long time indeed. sol
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Thanks Ode! I just responded to the other thread, mentioning that I couldn't find the in the sun stirring method, and it was because I had not gotten to it yet in my mailbox. Aldi On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: A black surface soaking up the suns rays will heat that area in the water more than all the other areas. Warm rises, relatively cooler sinks [Temperature differential ] and the water circulates. [Thermal Stirring] Stirring does reduce deposits, especially where an un-interrupted ion track might intersect the container, but may not eliminate them as the majority of crud [but not all of it ] comes from water contamination being used up by highly reactive ions forming nonconductive particulates...in effect, further purifying the water as that insoluble crud falls out, as added ions that don't find a reaction partner make it more conductive with soluble ionic *silver*. So The crud is a good thing...to leave on the bottom...as the top becomes more refined by its dropping out. The *generator* always does the same very simple thing in a massively variable and extremely reactive environment. A low frequency alternating current output to the electrodes eliminates DC ion tracking thus reducing the need to stir and those direction shifting traveling ions have mass and velocity, thus will move the water some, molecule by molecule by impact, but mostly only directly between the electrodes. If the container is mostly filled with electrode, that's generally enough stirring. ode
Re: CSColloid Master??
At 11:04 AM 3/4/2010, you wrote: Thanks Sol, and to others, suggesting I try seeding. My only reservation would have been, that I have less CS to use or give away, so I'll just use a larger container, which would probably make the brewing time longer, but probably, most likey, not all that much longer. Aldi, Actually in my experience, the brewing process is speeded up so much that I end up with more CS to use. I can do two batches in the time it would take for one unseeded batch. So I lose approx 1/4 of each batch to seeding, but end up with 1.5 times as much finished CS in the same time period. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Sol, :-) I'm sold! On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:15 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: At 11:04 AM 3/4/2010, you wrote: Thanks Sol, and to others, suggesting I try seeding. My only reservation would have been, that I have less CS to use or give away, so I'll just use a larger container, which would probably make the brewing time longer, but probably, most likey, not all that much longer. Aldi, Actually in my experience, the brewing process is speeded up so much that I end up with more CS to use. I can do two batches in the time it would take for one unseeded batch. So I lose approx 1/4 of each batch to seeding, but end up with 1.5 times as much finished CS in the same time period. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Golden Aldi wrote: Sol, :-) I'm sold! LOL, just keep in mind that it may take a bit of experimentation to find the best amount to leave for seeding vs time reduction in processing. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I had this problem (with a silver-puppy), but it was not a problem with the generator. I had to clean the jar well with H2O2 and rinse well, and then everything went back to normal timing. Dan On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:47 AM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Aldi writes: See, I have never yet made any under 6 hours, thats for sure. Can't figure out why. Like I mentioned before, a few batches ago, I had to cut the brewing, cause it was going on 14 hours. I suppose if your water happens to be very pure it could slow down the early, seeding part of the process considerably. Leaving a little bit of the previous batch in the jar would probably even that out considerably. It also sounds like Pat ought to cut back on the ppm setting to below the point at which it generates significant crud. When you get that, it just means you've gone too long, and whatever silver you've added in the later phase of the run has gone straight to large particles that don't enhance things much and waste electrodes. Even if the instructions say to run higher, it could be that Pat's particular unit needs to be run at a lower setting. Be well, Mike D. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:29 PM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.netwrote: That's really odd, Pat. Mine rarely takes more than 5 or 6 hours. My CS is always clear, and I never have any crud on the bottom of my jars. -- *From:* Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com My Colloid Master AC has a green light that goes on and off while brewing, then turns off totally when it's finished. The red light stays on to indicate it has power plugged in (although I think it goes on and off, too during brewing.) Sometimes it takes 12 hours or more. I keep it in the dining room, so don't look at it often. It leaves quite a bit of crud on the bottom of my jars. The CS is clear as long as I don't go above 5.5. The worst thing about the machine is that it's hard sometimes to get the electrodes straight and parallel when I'm putting the clips on. It eats them up, too, sometimes. I'm on the third set in four years and I don't make it very often. From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com My setting is at about 5.5 or 6 to get a 10 ppm. I can't tell if it shuts itself off or not, but I'm hoping it does, and its the other light, the red one, that doesn't go on when it stops, which it should, according to the instructions that came with the generator. If the generator does go off, then maybe completely, which would explain why the red light does not go on. *grin* [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
A black surface soaking up the suns rays will heat that area in the water more than all the other areas. Warm rises, relatively cooler sinks [Temperature differential ] and the water circulates. [Thermal Stirring] Stirring does reduce deposits, especially where an un-interrupted ion track might intersect the container, but may not eliminate them as the majority of crud [but not all of it ] comes from water contamination being used up by highly reactive ions forming nonconductive particulates...in effect, further purifying the water as that insoluble crud falls out, as added ions that don't find a reaction partner make it more conductive with soluble ionic *silver*. So The crud is a good thing...to leave on the bottom...as the top becomes more refined by its dropping out. The *generator* always does the same very simple thing in a massively variable and extremely reactive environment. A low frequency alternating current output to the electrodes eliminates DC ion tracking thus reducing the need to stir and those direction shifting traveling ions have mass and velocity, thus will move the water some, molecule by molecule by impact, but mostly only directly between the electrodes. If the container is mostly filled with electrode, that's generally enough stirring. ode At 06:11 PM 3/1/2010 +0100, you wrote: Ode, could you please elaborate on the strip of black tape or paint? Would that keep from crud from accumulating on the bottom? Aldi On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Ode Coyote mailto:odecoy...@windstream.netodecoy...@windstream.net wrote: So long as you use pure silver and pure water, there are no photo-reactive compounds made and you can run batches in direct sunlight...and... use a strip of black tape or some paint to make the sun stir it. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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That's what I went and did, took another lid to fit my brewing jar, cause I had the same problem with trying to get the silver strips to be evenly placed. That was a real pain, and that's what took up most of prep time. I cut two slits into the lid so I can just have the silver strips in the exact spot/spacing without having to fidge with it. I have been noticing plenty of crud using a setting above 6. I'm frankly not all that crazy about this generator, and will see about getting a silver puppy over here in GErmany for a reasonable price. Everyone is happy with theirs, although before I bought this one, I heard only good things about it :-( Anyone traveling to Germany anytime soon? Maybe they could bring me my new silver puppy! *only kidding* Aldi On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: I sometimes set the Colloid Master on six, but will try leaving it lower. The company recommended 5.5. I use a regular one quart canning jar. I didn't know you could use wires or coins with it, but that makes sense. I like that idea of cutting slots into a lid for the electrodes. That would keep them in place better. I agree that it couldn't be much easier, just takes a minute to start it up and then I get back to it sometime the next day and it's shut itself off. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ode, could you please elaborate on the strip of black tape or paint? Would that keep from crud from accumulating on the bottom? Aldi On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote: So long as you use pure silver and pure water, there are no photo-reactive compounds made and you can run batches in direct sunlight...and... use a strip of black tape or some paint to make the sun stir it. Ode
Re: CSColloid Master??
See, I have never yet made any under 6 hours, thats for sure. Can't figure out why. Like I mentioned before, a few batches ago, I had to cut the brewing, cause it was going on 14 hours. Aldi On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:29 PM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.netwrote: That's really odd, Pat. Mine rarely takes more than 5 or 6 hours. My CS is always clear, and I never have any crud on the bottom of my jars. I don't worry a bit about the electrodes being straight and parrallel -- more that they're not touching. Do you use a quart Mason jar? You only have to hook the electrodes over the lip of the jar. And I use a pair of electrodes about a year too -- but I make CS several to many times a week. That crud on the bottom of your jar is the remains of the electrodes that are being eaten up. I brew mine in the kitchen -- but I drape a kitchen towel over the jar, as much to keep the electrodes in place on opposite sides of the brewing jar as to keep the water clean. I stopped worrying about light a long time ago. MA -- *From:* Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Fri, February 26, 2010 2:50:57 PM *Subject:* Re: CSColloid Master?? My Colloid Master AC has a green light that goes on and off while brewing, then turns off totally when it's finished. The red light stays on to indicate it has power plugged in (although I think it goes on and off, too during brewing.) Sometimes it takes 12 hours or more. I keep it in the dining room, so don't look at it often. It leaves quite a bit of crud on the bottom of my jars. The CS is clear as long as I don't go above 5.5. The worst thing about the machine is that it's hard sometimes to get the electrodes straight and parallel when I'm putting the clips on. It eats them up, too, sometimes. I'm on the third set in four years and I don't make it very often. My daughter loves her Silver Puppy. My Colloid Master said to not brew in the light, though, so I was wondering about the warming light with the Silver Puppy. Does light during brewing make a difference? Pat From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 2:49:34 PM Subject: Re: CSColloid Master?? My setting is at about 5.5 or 6 to get a 10 ppm. I can't tell if it shuts itself off or not, but I'm hoping it does, and its the other light, the red one, that doesn't go on when it stops, which it should, according to the instructions that came with the generator. If the generator does go off, then maybe completely, which would explain why the red light does not go on. *grin* Aldi O -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Aldi writes: See, I have never yet made any under 6 hours, thats for sure. Can't figure out why. Like I mentioned before, a few batches ago, I had to cut the brewing, cause it was going on 14 hours. I suppose if your water happens to be very pure it could slow down the early, seeding part of the process considerably. Leaving a little bit of the previous batch in the jar would probably even that out considerably. It also sounds like Pat ought to cut back on the ppm setting to below the point at which it generates significant crud. When you get that, it just means you've gone too long, and whatever silver you've added in the later phase of the run has gone straight to large particles that don't enhance things much and waste electrodes. Even if the instructions say to run higher, it could be that Pat's particular unit needs to be run at a lower setting. Be well, Mike D. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:29 PM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.netwrote: That's really odd, Pat. Mine rarely takes more than 5 or 6 hours. My CS is always clear, and I never have any crud on the bottom of my jars. -- *From:* Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com My Colloid Master AC has a green light that goes on and off while brewing, then turns off totally when it's finished. The red light stays on to indicate it has power plugged in (although I think it goes on and off, too during brewing.) Sometimes it takes 12 hours or more. I keep it in the dining room, so don't look at it often. It leaves quite a bit of crud on the bottom of my jars. The CS is clear as long as I don't go above 5.5. The worst thing about the machine is that it's hard sometimes to get the electrodes straight and parallel when I'm putting the clips on. It eats them up, too, sometimes. I'm on the third set in four years and I don't make it very often. From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com My setting is at about 5.5 or 6 to get a 10 ppm. I can't tell if it shuts itself off or not, but I'm hoping it does, and its the other light, the red one, that doesn't go on when it stops, which it should, according to the instructions that came with the generator. If the generator does go off, then maybe completely, which would explain why the red light does not go on. *grin* [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
Thanks Mike, It could be that the water is super pure, as I first filter, then distill the water. After reading and hearing of all the stuff that can be found in water, I'm not taking any more risks of taking something in I don't want in my organism. :-) I'll leave a bit of old brew in the jar for the next batch. How much would make the difference, and how long should it take? 3-4 hours? instead of the 6+? I remember reading a few posts about seeding, but it seems that it didn't make a difference for some, so I wonder what it all depends on. I would feel more sure of myself if I could test the ppm of the water in between, as to see if I could cut off the electricity, and so, also see how accurate (or not), the little green light is. Aldi On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 1:47 PM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Aldi writes: See, I have never yet made any under 6 hours, thats for sure. Can't figure out why. Like I mentioned before, a few batches ago, I had to cut the brewing, cause it was going on 14 hours. I suppose if your water happens to be very pure it could slow down the early, seeding part of the process considerably. Leaving a little bit of the previous batch in the jar would probably even that out considerably. It also sounds like Pat ought to cut back on the ppm setting to below the point at which it generates significant crud. When you get that, it just means you've gone too long, and whatever silver you've added in the later phase of the run has gone straight to large particles that don't enhance things much and waste electrodes. Even if the instructions say to run higher, it could be that Pat's particular unit needs to be run at a lower setting. Be well, Mike D. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:29 PM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.netwrote: That's really odd, Pat. Mine rarely takes more than 5 or 6 hours. My CS is always clear, and I never have any crud on the bottom of my jars. -- *From:* Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com My Colloid Master AC has a green light that goes on and off while brewing, then turns off totally when it's finished. The red light stays on to indicate it has power plugged in (although I think it goes on and off, too during brewing.) Sometimes it takes 12 hours or more. I keep it in the dining room, so don't look at it often. It leaves quite a bit of crud on the bottom of my jars. The CS is clear as long as I don't go above 5.5. The worst thing about the machine is that it's hard sometimes to get the electrodes straight and parallel when I'm putting the clips on. It eats them up, too, sometimes. I'm on the third set in four years and I don't make it very often. From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com My setting is at about 5.5 or 6 to get a 10 ppm. I can't tell if it shuts itself off or not, but I'm hoping it does, and its the other light, the red one, that doesn't go on when it stops, which it should, according to the instructions that came with the generator. If the generator does go off, then maybe completely, which would explain why the red light does not go on. *grin* [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Aldi, It could be that the water is super pure, as I first filter, then distill the water. You may be one of the lucky ones who doesn't have to work too hard to get good distilled water. waves to sol! I'll leave a bit of old brew in the jar for the next batch. How much would make the difference, and how long should it take? 3-4 hours? instead of the 6+? You'll have to tell us! If your water was infinitely pure, it might never accept the first silver ion and take forever to start, unseeded. Where it is on the scale of perfection is not for us to say. wink! I would suggest just start with some, maybe as much as a quarter or fifth of the old batch. If it doesn't make much difference, try more until it does. If it shortens the cycle like you want, then reduce the amount bit by bit until the average run-time starts to grow unacceptably long again. Stop somewhere about there, whenever run-time and batch-size seem to be a reasonable tradeoff. I would feel more sure of myself if I could test the ppm of the water in between, as to see if I could cut off the electricity, and so, also see how accurate (or not), the little green light is. Well, perfection gets expensive. The big question is, does your CS do its job? Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Mike, I'm glad you told me how much to seed with, cause I never would have thought to take up to a quarter of a quart. I would have used much less. What I have done, after even an hour of brewing, is shine the laser pointer, and you can see the particles, so I know the water is taking the silver quite nicely, and plentiful, I might add. I'm very happy with my CS, as I feel it does what it should do. I only drink a shot or two a few times a week, and it seems to have loosened plaque on my teeth! I don't usually have problems with getting the flu prior to my CS intake. I have shared it with friends and neighbors, and they are totally surprised at how its been working for them! They've been able to fight off the flu and go to work the next day, so the end product seems to do its job. Aldi On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:47 PM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: You'll have to tell us! If your water was infinitely pure, it might never accept the first silver ion and take forever to start, unseeded. Where it is on the scale of perfection is not for us to I would suggest just start with some, maybe as much as a quarter or fifth of the old batch. If it doesn't make much difference, try more until it does. Well, perfection gets expensive. The big question is, does your CS do its job? Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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And you're unhappy with your Colloid Master because.. LOL MA From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com What I have done, after even an hour of brewing, is shine the laser pointer, and you can see the particles, so I know the water is taking the silver quite nicely, and plentiful, I might add. I'm very happy with my CS, as I feel it does what it should do. I only drink a shot or two a few times a week, and it seems to have loosened plaque on my teeth! I don't usually have problems with getting the flu prior to my CS intake. I have shared it with friends and neighbors, and they are totally surprised at how its been working for them! They've been able to fight off the flu and go to work the next day, so the end product seems to do its job. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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At 01:09 PM 3/1/2010, you wrote: I'll leave a bit of old brew in the jar for the next batch. How much would make the difference, and how long should it take? 3-4 hours? instead of the 6+? I remember reading a few posts about seeding, but it seems that it didn't make a difference for some, so I wonder what it all depends on. It might depend on how much of the previous batch you leave behind to seed the next batch. I believe someone posted a long time ago a formula for this, might have been Terry Chamberlin? I think it was that leaving 1/4 of the previous batch will reduce brewing time by 2/3 or similar, I can't remember it exactly, but since I first read it I have always left approx 1/4 of the previous batch. At first it may seem like this wastes CS you could be using, but for me it speeds up the brewing time so much it is worth it. It may be pertinent that I need to start with distilled water that is very pure. So if I didn't seed a batch at all, it will take a very long time indeed. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Mine does that automatically i.e it turns off when it gets to approximately 16ppm which then drops to ten after a couple of days of standing. If you want higher you switch from auto to manual and then leave it run until it reaches whatever you want. This is what *I* call easy! lol dee On 28 Feb 2010, at 04:09, MaryAnn Helland wrote: Hi Dee -- the Silver Puppy has a superb reputation, and it's no surprise that you're happy with it. But I wanted to clarify your misconception -- the Colloid Master is not complicated. My routine for making a jar of CS is to attach the alligator clips to the silver bars, plug the unit in and press the *start* button. Couldn't be simpler. And like you, no crud. I suspect that the people having this problem simply have their ppm-level set too high. All that silver is gonna go someplace if the unit is brewing for three or four times longer than needed. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
Right -- the Colloid Master does it automatically too. But you pre-determine the ppm-level you want via a dial that goes from 1 (very,very low) to 10 (very, very high). I always keep my unit dialed to *3* and it consistently produces 10-12 ppms, which is exactly what I want. I have no vested interest in which CS generator anyone chooses to use -- but I didn't want to leave anyone with the impression that the Colloid Master is a difficult unit to operate. It isn't. (smile) MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 6:16:37 AM Subject: Re: CSColloid Master?? Mine does that automatically i.e it turns off when it gets to approximately 16ppm which then drops to ten after a couple of days of standing. If you want higher you switch from auto to manual and then leave it run until it reaches whatever you want. This is what *I* call easy! lol dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
So long as you use pure silver and pure water, there are no photo-reactive compounds made and you can run batches in direct sunlight...and... use a strip of black tape or some paint to make the sun stir it. Ode At 04:18 PM 2/27/2010 +, you wrote: I have a Silver Puppy and I *always* brew in the light and I always get clear CS! The Colloid Master sounds a bit complicated for me - I don't get any crud (or at least, not enough to mention.) dee On 26 Feb 2010, at 20:50, Pat wrote: My Colloid Master AC has a green light that goes on and off while brewing, then turns off totally when it's finished. The red light stays on to indicate it has power plugged in (although I think it goes on and off, too during brewing.) Sometimes it takes 12 hours or more. I keep it in the dining room, so don't look at it often. It leaves quite a bit of crud on the bottom of my jars. The CS is clear as long as I don't go above 5.5. The worst thing about the machine is that it's hard sometimes to get the electrodes straight and parallel when I'm putting the clips on. It eats them up, too, sometimes. I'm on the third set in four years and I don't make it very often. My daughter loves her Silver Puppy. My Colloid Master said to not brew in the light, though, so I was wondering about the warming light with the Silver Puppy. Does light during brewing make a difference? Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master-- Advice
Hey you guys with the Colloid Master having trouble need to call Pearl or
Steve, At http://www.wishgranted.com
I never did make a Quart at a time, I started with a gallon glass large mouth
jar,
(4 quarts) similar to an Ice tea jar. Cut Slots in the lid to hang silver
rods,strips or coins, a hole to put an air mixer hose. In the 12 years I only
have bought two bubblers,(with air filters and control valve on the hose ) they
both still work well. I have had my Colloid Master for over 12 years, and never
one problem with it, it takes over night to make a gallon with silver strips,or
2 one ounce Canadian $5.00 silver maple leaf coins, that are now sold for
aprox $24.00 each. PS Make sure your jar is clean, Wipe it out with a coffee
filter, {no lint} cheaper than paper towels too. Also make sure your power
switch is on normal (up) not the Fast one (down) Call the mgf at web site above
They will walk you through it.
If you can't make perfect Colloidal Silver with a colloid master your doing
something wrong? Or there is something wrong with the unit, They would replace
it if there is.
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 2:29:23 PM
Subject: Re: CSColloid Master??
That's really odd, Pat. Mine rarely takes more than 5 or 6 hours. My CS is
always clear, and I never have any crud on the bottom of my jars. I don't
worry a bit about the electrodes being straight and parrallel -- more that
they're not touching. Do you use a quart Mason jar? You only have to hook the
electrodes over the lip of the jar. And I use a pair of electrodes about a
year too -- but I make CS several to many times a week. That crud on the
bottom of your jar is the remains of the electrodes that are being eaten up. I
brew mine in the kitchen -- but I drape a kitchen towel over the jar, as much
to keep the electrodes in place on opposite sides of the brewing jar as to keep
the water clean. I stopped worrying about light a long time ago.
MA
From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 2:50:57 PM
Subject: Re: CSColloid Master??
My Colloid Master AC has a green light that goes on and off while brewing, then
turns off totally when it's finished. The red light stays on to indicate it
has power plugged in (although I think it goes on and off, too during brewing.)
Sometimes it takes 12 hours or more. I keep it in the dining room, so don't
look at it often. It leaves quite a bit of crud on the bottom of my jars. The
CS is clear as long as I don't go above 5.5. The worst thing about the machine
is that it's hard sometimes to get the electrodes straight and parallel when
I'm putting the clips on. It eats them up, too, sometimes. I'm on the third
set in four years and I don't make it very often.
My daughter loves her Silver Puppy. My Colloid Master said to not brew in the
light, though, so I was wondering about the warming light with the Silver
Puppy. Does light during brewing make a difference?
Pat
From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 2:49:34 PM
Subject: Re: CSColloid Master??
My setting is at about 5.5 or 6 to get a 10 ppm. I can't tell if it shuts
itself off or not, but I'm hoping it does, and its the other light, the red
one, that doesn't go on when it stops, which it should, according to the
instructions that came with the generator. If the generator does go off, then
maybe completely, which would explain why the red light does not go on. *grin*
Aldi
O
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Re: CSColloid Master??
I have a Silver Puppy and I *always* brew in the light and I always get clear CS! The Colloid Master sounds a bit complicated for me - I don't get any crud (or at least, not enough to mention.) dee On 26 Feb 2010, at 20:50, Pat wrote: My Colloid Master AC has a green light that goes on and off while brewing, then turns off totally when it's finished. The red light stays on to indicate it has power plugged in (although I think it goes on and off, too during brewing.) Sometimes it takes 12 hours or more. I keep it in the dining room, so don't look at it often. It leaves quite a bit of crud on the bottom of my jars. The CS is clear as long as I don't go above 5.5. The worst thing about the machine is that it's hard sometimes to get the electrodes straight and parallel when I'm putting the clips on. It eats them up, too, sometimes. I'm on the third set in four years and I don't make it very often. My daughter loves her Silver Puppy. My Colloid Master said to not brew in the light, though, so I was wondering about the warming light with the Silver Puppy. Does light during brewing make a difference? Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
Hi Dee -- the Silver Puppy has a superb reputation, and it's no surprise that you're happy with it. But I wanted to clarify your misconception -- the Colloid Master is not complicated. My routine for making a jar of CS is to attach the alligator clips to the silver bars, plug the unit in and press the *start* button. Couldn't be simpler. And like you, no crud. I suspect that the people having this problem simply have their ppm-level set too high. All that silver is gonna go someplace if the unit is brewing for three or four times longer than needed. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 10:18:26 AM Subject: Re: CSColloid Master?? I have a Silver Puppy and I *always* brew in the light and I always get clear CS! The Colloid Master sounds a bit complicated for me - I don't get any crud (or at least, not enough to mention.) dee On 26 Feb 2010, at 20:50, Pat wrote: My Colloid Master AC has a green light that goes on and off while brewing, then turns off totally when it's finished. The red light stays on to indicate it has power plugged in (although I think it goes on and off, too during brewing.) Sometimes it takes 12 hours or more. I keep it in the dining room, so don't look at it often. It leaves quite a bit of crud on the bottom of my jars. The CS is clear as long as I don't go above 5.5. The worst thing about the machine is that it's hard sometimes to get the electrodes straight and parallel when I'm putting the clips on. It eats them up, too, sometimes. I'm on the third set in four years and I don't make it very often. My daughter loves her Silver Puppy. My Colloid Master said to not brew in the light, though, so I was wondering about the warming light with the Silver Puppy. Does light during brewing make a difference? Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
I sometimes set the Colloid Master on six, but will try leaving it lower. The company recommended 5.5. I use a regular one quart canning jar. I didn't know you could use wires or coins with it, but that makes sense. I like that idea of cutting slots into a lid for the electrodes. That would keep them in place better. I agree that it couldn't be much easier, just takes a minute to start it up and then I get back to it sometime the next day and it's shut itself off. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
My setting is at about 5.5 or 6 to get a 10 ppm. I can't tell if it shuts itself off or not, but I'm hoping it does, and its the other light, the red one, that doesn't go on when it stops, which it should, according to the instructions that came with the generator. If the generator does go off, then maybe completely, which would explain why the red light does not go on. *grin* Aldi O
Re: CSColloid Master??
My Colloid Master AC has a green light that goes on and off while brewing, then turns off totally when it's finished. The red light stays on to indicate it has power plugged in (although I think it goes on and off, too during brewing.) Sometimes it takes 12 hours or more. I keep it in the dining room, so don't look at it often. It leaves quite a bit of crud on the bottom of my jars. The CS is clear as long as I don't go above 5.5. The worst thing about the machine is that it's hard sometimes to get the electrodes straight and parallel when I'm putting the clips on. It eats them up, too, sometimes. I'm on the third set in four years and I don't make it very often. My daughter loves her Silver Puppy. My Colloid Master said to not brew in the light, though, so I was wondering about the warming light with the Silver Puppy. Does light during brewing make a difference? Pat From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 2:49:34 PM Subject: Re: CSColloid Master?? My setting is at about 5.5 or 6 to get a 10 ppm. I can't tell if it shuts itself off or not, but I'm hoping it does, and its the other light, the red one, that doesn't go on when it stops, which it should, according to the instructions that came with the generator. If the generator does go off, then maybe completely, which would explain why the red light does not go on. *grin* Aldi O -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
Aldi -- try brewing a batch at 3 and see what happens. Do you have a Hanna tester to determine your ppm level? I get around 12 ppms usually, at a #3 setting. Are you using a quart Mason jar? Which puts the electrodes about 2 apart? MA From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 1:49:34 PM Subject: Re: CSColloid Master?? My setting is at about 5.5 or 6 to get a 10 ppm. I can't tell if it shuts itself off or not, but I'm hoping it does, and its the other light, the red one, that doesn't go on when it stops, which it should, according to the instructions that came with the generator. If the generator does go off, then maybe completely, which would explain why the red light does not go on. *grin* Aldi O
Re: CSColloid Master??
That's really odd, Pat. Mine rarely takes more than 5 or 6 hours. My CS is always clear, and I never have any crud on the bottom of my jars. I don't worry a bit about the electrodes being straight and parrallel -- more that they're not touching. Do you use a quart Mason jar? You only have to hook the electrodes over the lip of the jar. And I use a pair of electrodes about a year too -- but I make CS several to many times a week. That crud on the bottom of your jar is the remains of the electrodes that are being eaten up. I brew mine in the kitchen -- but I drape a kitchen towel over the jar, as much to keep the electrodes in place on opposite sides of the brewing jar as to keep the water clean. I stopped worrying about light a long time ago. MA From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 2:50:57 PM Subject: Re: CSColloid Master?? My Colloid Master AC has a green light that goes on and off while brewing, then turns off totally when it's finished. The red light stays on to indicate it has power plugged in (although I think it goes on and off, too during brewing.) Sometimes it takes 12 hours or more. I keep it in the dining room, so don't look at it often. It leaves quite a bit of crud on the bottom of my jars. The CS is clear as long as I don't go above 5.5. The worst thing about the machine is that it's hard sometimes to get the electrodes straight and parallel when I'm putting the clips on. It eats them up, too, sometimes. I'm on the third set in four years and I don't make it very often. My daughter loves her Silver Puppy. My Colloid Master said to not brew in the light, though, so I was wondering about the warming light with the Silver Puppy. Does light during brewing make a difference? Pat From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 2:49:34 PM Subject: Re: CSColloid Master?? My setting is at about 5.5 or 6 to get a 10 ppm. I can't tell if it shuts itself off or not, but I'm hoping it does, and its the other light, the red one, that doesn't go on when it stops, which it should, according to the instructions that came with the generator. If the generator does go off, then maybe completely, which would explain why the red light does not go on. *grin* Aldi O -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
Wow, had no idea that there was one with a yellow light! It would be nice to see it switching polarity, to keep an eye on it while it brews. As far as the other switch for fast or standard brewing, that sounds like a very nice switch to have, although I'm not sure how it could speed things up, except for giving it more power. I did call the seller, but since I live in Germany, there was not much they could do for me. I was fortunate to have it sent to a friend in the military here, but they have left, and sending it through the german postal system would be too costly. If I lived in the States, it probably wouldn't be an issue to send it. I just feel like I got a raw deal, but I know it was not intentional. My loss, although it still frustrates me. I'm just hoping that I'm actually producing some good CS, that's what is important, right? :-) And if I understood correctly, when the green light goes off on yours, then it stops brewing? Even though its getting electricity? Do you think the generator turns itself off? Thanks for your input. Aldi On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:26 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.netwrote: Hi Aldi. I think you might have the same unit I do, but mine is pretty old and is only called the Colloid Master AC. On mine, the green light is what goes on when the unit is making CS. When it has reached the ppm-level desired, then the green light goes out. But the yellow *testing* light (underneath the start button) remains lit, which reminds you that the unit is still plugged in. And I believe that light blinks when the unit switches polarity. That yellow light goes out when you unplug the unit before removing the clips from the silver bars. My unit has no red light, but it does have the switch that allows you to choose between standard brewing time and fast. Mine is always set on standard. Does any of this help you? MA -- *From:* Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wed, February 24, 2010 1:21:03 PM *Subject:* Re: CSColloid Master?? Hi Dave, Thanks for responding! I was beginning to think my mails weren't getting through at all, but nice to see that this one got through. I don't have the 777 model, but the Universal one. There is only a switch to turn the generator on, and the processing button to start the process. Then there is the green light, which goes on as soon as you turn it on. This is the time you can test the water, but you already know that :-) But I don't recall ever seeing the red light go on. Aldi On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote: Aldi On the front panel of the 777 there is a switch that is labeled either standard or fast, the setting you need to use is the standard setting, the red and green lights alternate every minute and the red comes on bright when it shuts off. On the fast setting it is running manually and will brew until you shut it off hence the colors you got. I've never been able to get anything but clear up to 20 ppm (setting # 7)with mine set on standard. Dave
Re: CSColloid Master??
Yes -- absolutely. That's what it's designed to do. You set the dial for the ppm-level that you want, then plug it in. When the ppm-level is reached, the generator turns itself off (even though it is still plugged in to electricity). Does yours not do that? What number do you have the dial set for? MA From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com And if I understood correctly, when the green light goes off on yours, then it stops brewing? Even though its getting electricity? Do you think the generator turns itself off? On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:26 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Aldi. I think you might have the same unit I do, but mine is pretty old and is only called the Colloid Master AC. On mine, the green light is what goes on when the unit is making CS. When it has reached the ppm-level desired, then the green light goes out. But the yellow *testing* light (underneath the start button) remains lit, which reminds you that the unit is still plugged in. And I believe that light blinks when the unit switches polarity. That yellow light goes out when you unplug the unit before removing the clips from the silver bars. My unit has no red light, but it does have the switch that allows you to choose between standard brewing time and fast. Mine is always set on standard. Does any of this help you? MA
Re: CSColloid Master??
Hi Dave, Thanks for responding! I was beginning to think my mails weren't getting through at all, but nice to see that this one got through. I don't have the 777 model, but the Universal one. There is only a switch to turn the generator on, and the processing button to start the process. Then there is the green light, which goes on as soon as you turn it on. This is the time you can test the water, but you already know that :-) But I don't recall ever seeing the red light go on. Aldi On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote: Aldi On the front panel of the 777 there is a switch that is labeled either standard or fast, the setting you need to use is the standard setting, the red and green lights alternate every minute and the red comes on bright when it shuts off. On the fast setting it is running manually and will brew until you shut it off hence the colors you got. I've never been able to get anything but clear up to 20 ppm (setting # 7)with mine set on standard. Dave
Re: CSColloid Master??
Aldi You might try contacting them as something is amiss with what you describe. They are very good to answer any questions and will replace your unit with no proof of malfunction. I sent mine in for repair because when I first tried it (after owning it for over a year) it didn't work. They sent me a new one with a car charger and two more silver strips with an apology for the inconvenience to me. They put a time for warrenty but they say they don't adhere strictly to it. Dave On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dave, Thanks for responding! I was beginning to think my mails weren't getting through at all, but nice to see that this one got through. I don't have the 777 model, but the Universal one. There is only a switch to turn the generator on, and the processing button to start the process. Then there is the green light, which goes on as soon as you turn it on. This is the time you can test the water, but you already know that :-) But I don't recall ever seeing the red light go on. Aldi On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote: Aldi On the front panel of the 777 there is a switch that is labeled either standard or fast, the setting you need to use is the standard setting, the red and green lights alternate every minute and the red comes on bright when it shuts off. On the fast setting it is running manually and will brew until you shut it off hence the colors you got. I've never been able to get anything but clear up to 20 ppm (setting # 7)with mine set on standard. Dave
Re: CSColloid Master??
Hi Aldi. I think you might have the same unit I do, but mine is pretty old and is only called the Colloid Master AC. On mine, the green light is what goes on when the unit is making CS. When it has reached the ppm-level desired, then the green light goes out. But the yellow *testing* light (underneath the start button) remains lit, which reminds you that the unit is still plugged in. And I believe that light blinks when the unit switches polarity. That yellow light goes out when you unplug the unit before removing the clips from the silver bars. My unit has no red light, but it does have the switch that allows you to choose between standard brewing time and fast. Mine is always set on standard. Does any of this help you? MA From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 1:21:03 PM Subject: Re: CSColloid Master?? Hi Dave, Thanks for responding! I was beginning to think my mails weren't getting through at all, but nice to see that this one got through. I don't have the 777 model, but the Universal one. There is only a switch to turn the generator on, and the processing button to start the process. Then there is the green light, which goes on as soon as you turn it on. This is the time you can test the water, but you already know that :-) But I don't recall ever seeing the red light go on. Aldi On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote: Aldi On the front panel of the 777 there is a switch that is labeled either standard or fast, the setting you need to use is the standard setting, the red and green lights alternate every minute and the red comes on bright when it shuts off. On the fast setting it is running manually and will brew until you shut it off hence the colors you got. I've never been able to get anything but clear up to 20 ppm (setting # 7)with mine set on standard. Dave
Re: CSColloid Master??
Despite not addressing a few things like repeatable electrode mounting, edge/corner ion discharge concentration and an uncalibrated PPM dial, the 777 is generally rated among the top 3 for both function and value. My [ biased ] preference for something comparable, but cheaper and does address those things as well as being more power supply versatile is the PocketPuppy. For higher production rates [and more expensive] based on the same operational principles, the SG7 Pro. All 3 work the same way using polarity shifting and make good CS/EIS, with a few differences in those Devilish Details...that don't make a huge amount of difference. Ode At 06:11 PM 2/21/2010 -0600, you wrote: The Colloid Master Model 777 AC A friend has offered to purchase this for me. I have a homemade kit, using 3 9 volt batteries. I have no way to measure the levels, other than I have a red light thingie that will show the tyndall effect. I cook till I have a light tyndall - usually about an hour for a quart of cs. It is effective, has worked, so I haven't tried to do anything fancier. The above is on sale for 139. It has a bunch of bells and whistles, none of which I really understand why they would or wouldn't be good features. It does take 8 hours or so to make a liter, and that is using a fw ounces of the last batch to seed the distilled water. Is this a good generator? Any comments about why so long? Is it making the good (meaning both effective and safe) stuff? Thanks for any input. Sara http://www.wishgranted.com/Colloidal_Silver_Maker_777_AC.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
Thanks Mary Ann... Sara Hi Sara. It's a great generator. I've had mine for almost ten years. During that time, it has made no less than three batches a week, and at times I've made as many as fourteen batches a week (2 per day). It is a quality unit, worry-free. You'll enjoy the bells and whistles, once you know what they are and how to put them to use. You may find that it doesn't take as long to make a batch, as they say. I never seed my batches, but I'm looking for a low-ppm (5-10) and it can take as few as three hours to make a quart. And yes -- it makes the good stuff!! :-) MA *From:* Sara Mandal-Joy smjl...@wavewls.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sun, February 21, 2010 6:11:58 PM *Subject:* CSColloid Master?? The Colloid Master Model 777™ AC A friend has offered to purchase this for me. I have a homemade kit, using 3 9 volt batteries. I have no way to measure the levels, other than I have a red light thingie that will show the tyndall effect. I cook till I have a light tyndall - usually about an hour for a quart of cs. It is effective, has worked, so I haven't tried to do anything fancier. The above is on sale for 139. It has a bunch of bells and whistles, none of which I really understand why they would or wouldn't be good features. It does take 8 hours or so to make a liter, and that is using a fw ounces of the last batch to seed the distilled water. Is this a good generator? Any comments about why so long? Is it making the good (meaning both effective and safe) stuff? Thanks for any input. Sara http://www.wishgranted.com/Colloidal_Silver_Maker_777_AC.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
Hi Maryann, I bought one of these generatory last June. Since I'm llving over here in Germany, I had to get the Universal one cause of the european voltage which is about $40 bucks more. It was a disappointment to see that the extra $40 bucks was for something I could get at Radio Shack back in the States for a few bucks. Then I can't tell you if the red light that is on there ever went on. Its supposed to turn off and let you kow it was done. With mine, I have to keepp watching it til the green light goes off, cause it will keep on brewing. I can't say that it only takes 3 hours to make a 10ppm mix, I've had a good 6 plus hours, but maybe we could blame that on sea level, atmospheric pressure, and electromagnetic fields. I attempted a 25 ppm mix, but that one turned to a violet tint for some reason. I watered the plants with that one. The second batch is still practically as clear as water, but that might be cause I watched it more closely, and turned if off after about 14 hours. Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy to have this thing, cause I figure if it should ever fail on me totally, at least I'll have the parts and set up that maybe I can fix it for real, and make it whole, but as is, I'm pretty disappointed. I also made a lid with slits for the silver electrodes for my brewing jar, its a real pain to try to get the strips to hang somewhat aligned to each other with the right distance between them. Now its so much easier, and there's even a bit more extra silver dispensed into the water. I'm just passing this along as my own personal review of this particular generator. I am in the market for possibly a second generator, but the one I want would be too costly to send over here, so I'll just sit tight, and wait for something to come along. Aldi On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:01 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.netwrote: Hi Sara. It's a great generator. I've had mine for almost ten years. During that time, it has made no less than three batches a week, and at times I've made as many as fourteen batches a week (2 per day). It is a quality unit, worry-free. You'll enjoy the bells and whistles, once you know what they are and how to put them to use. You may find that it doesn't take as long to make a batch, as they say. I never seed my batches, but I'm looking for a low-ppm (5-10) and it can take as few as three hours to make a quart. And yes -- it makes the good stuff!! :-) MA
Re: CSColloid Master??
Interesting. Thanks for the info. I'll look into that. Sara Despite not addressing a few things like repeatable electrode mounting, edge/corner ion discharge concentration and an uncalibrated PPM dial, the 777 is generally rated among the top 3 for both function and value. My [ biased ] preference for something comparable, but cheaper and does address those things as well as being more power supply versatile is the PocketPuppy. For higher production rates [and more expensive] based on the same operational principles, the SG7 Pro. All 3 work the same way using polarity shifting and make good CS/EIS, with a few differences in those Devilish Details...that don't make a huge amount of difference. Ode At 06:11 PM 2/21/2010 -0600, you wrote: The Colloid Master Model 777™ AC A friend has offered to purchase this for me. I have a homemade kit, using 3 9 volt batteries. I have no way to measure the levels, other than I have a red light thingie that will show the tyndall effect. I cook till I have a light tyndall - usually about an hour for a quart of cs. It is effective, has worked, so I haven't tried to do anything fancier. The above is on sale for 139. It has a bunch of bells and whistles, none of which I really understand why they would or wouldn't be good features. It does take 8 hours or so to make a liter, and that is using a fw ounces of the last batch to seed the distilled water. Is this a good generator? Any comments about why so long? Is it making the good (meaning both effective and safe) stuff? Thanks for any input. Sara http://www.wishgranted.com/Colloidal_Silver_Maker_777_AC.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
Aldi On the front panel of the 777 there is a switch that is labeled either standard or fast, the setting you need to use is the standard setting, the red and green lights alternate every minute and the red comes on bright when it shuts off. On the fast setting it is running manually and will brew until you shut it off hence the colors you got. I've never been able to get anything but clear up to 20 ppm (setting # 7)with mine set on standard. Dave On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Maryann, I bought one of these generatory last June. Since I'm llving over here in Germany, I had to get the Universal one cause of the european voltage which is about $40 bucks more. It was a disappointment to see that the extra $40 bucks was for something I could get at Radio Shack back in the States for a few bucks. Then I can't tell you if the red light that is on there ever went on. Its supposed to turn off and let you kow it was done. With mine, I have to keepp watching it til the green light goes off, cause it will keep on brewing. I can't say that it only takes 3 hours to make a 10ppm mix, I've had a good 6 plus hours, but maybe we could blame that on sea level, atmospheric pressure, and electromagnetic fields. I attempted a 25 ppm mix, but that one turned to a violet tint for some reason. I watered the plants with that one. The second batch is still practically as clear as water, but that might be cause I watched it more closely, and turned if off after about 14 hours. Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy to have this thing, cause I figure if it should ever fail on me totally, at least I'll have the parts and set up that maybe I can fix it for real, and make it whole, but as is, I'm pretty disappointed. I also made a lid with slits for the silver electrodes for my brewing jar, its a real pain to try to get the strips to hang somewhat aligned to each other with the right distance between them. Now its so much easier, and there's even a bit more extra silver dispensed into the water. I'm just passing this along as my own personal review of this particular generator. I am in the market for possibly a second generator, but the one I want would be too costly to send over here, so I'll just sit tight, and wait for something to come along. Aldi On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:01 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.netwrote: Hi Sara. It's a great generator. I've had mine for almost ten years. During that time, it has made no less than three batches a week, and at times I've made as many as fourteen batches a week (2 per day). It is a quality unit, worry-free. You'll enjoy the bells and whistles, once you know what they are and how to put them to use. You may find that it doesn't take as long to make a batch, as they say. I never seed my batches, but I'm looking for a low-ppm (5-10) and it can take as few as three hours to make a quart. And yes -- it makes the good stuff!! :-) MA
CSColloid Master??
The Colloid Master Model 777™ AC A friend has offered to purchase this for me. I have a homemade kit, using 3 9 volt batteries. I have no way to measure the levels, other than I have a red light thingie that will show the tyndall effect. I cook till I have a light tyndall - usually about an hour for a quart of cs. It is effective, has worked, so I haven't tried to do anything fancier. The above is on sale for 139. It has a bunch of bells and whistles, none of which I really understand why they would or wouldn't be good features. It does take 8 hours or so to make a liter, and that is using a fw ounces of the last batch to seed the distilled water. Is this a good generator? Any comments about why so long? Is it making the good (meaning both effective and safe) stuff? Thanks for any input. Sara http://www.wishgranted.com/Colloidal_Silver_Maker_777_AC.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
Hi Sara. It's a great generator. I've had mine for almost ten years. During that time, it has made no less than three batches a week, and at times I've made as many as fourteen batches a week (2 per day). It is a quality unit, worry-free. You'll enjoy the bells and whistles, once you know what they are and how to put them to use. You may find that it doesn't take as long to make a batch, as they say. I never seed my batches, but I'm looking for a low-ppm (5-10) and it can take as few as three hours to make a quart. And yes -- it makes the good stuff!! :-) MA From: Sara Mandal-Joy smjl...@wavewls.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 6:11:58 PM Subject: CSColloid Master?? The Colloid Master Model 777™ AC A friend has offered to purchase this for me. I have a homemade kit, using 3 9 volt batteries. I have no way to measure the levels, other than I have a red light thingie that will show the tyndall effect. I cook till I have a light tyndall - usually about an hour for a quart of cs. It is effective, has worked, so I haven't tried to do anything fancier. The above is on sale for 139. It has a bunch of bells and whistles, none of which I really understand why they would or wouldn't be good features. It does take 8 hours or so to make a liter, and that is using a fw ounces of the last batch to seed the distilled water. Is this a good generator? Any comments about why so long? Is it making the good (meaning both effective and safe) stuff? Thanks for any input. Sara http://www.wishgranted.com/Colloidal_Silver_Maker_777_AC.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScolloid master 777 instructions tips...
In a message dated 1/5/2006 9:03:58 PM Central Standard Time, dcicc...@gmail.com writes: i'm checking in with anyone who would be so kind as to (pretty please :-) ) give me a quick training session... what settings to use, etc Hi. I set my switch to *standard* (not fast), and my dial to around number 5. Then I attach my alligator clips to the silver bars, plug it in and press the start button. The little green light should come on, indicating that the unit is operating. You will hear periodic clicking sounds as the unit switches polarity. When the green light goes out, your colloid is done. Unplug before removing alligator clips to avoid current transmission if your clips should happen to touch each other. Remove silver bars and wipe them clean with a paper towel. That's it. I hope you enjoy your unit -- I have certainly enjoyed mine. MA
Re: CScolloid master 777 instructions tips...
marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 1/5/2006 9:03:58 PM Central Standard Time, dcicc...@gmail.com writes: i'm checking in with anyone who would be so kind as to (pretty please :-) ) give me a quick training session... what settings to use, etc Hi. I set my switch to *standard* (not fast), and my dial to around number 5. Then I attach my alligator clips to the silver bars, plug it in and press the start button. The little green light should come on, indicating that the unit is operating. You will hear periodic clicking sounds as the unit switches polarity. When the green light goes out, your colloid is done. Unplug before removing alligator clips to avoid current transmission if your clips should happen to touch each other. Remove silver bars and wipe them clean with a paper towel. That's it. I hope you enjoy your unit -- I have certainly enjoyed mine. MA That is good advide MA , I have used a Colloidal Master 777 , for many years and I do use a fish tank bubblier for gentel air mixing., but I make a gallon at a time. One thing to watch for is to clean witha paper towel all inside surface of you glass container. current can get to going around the jars inside rather than jumping from Neg to Pos. and cause no colloidal action in the jar, that was my first mystery, but with help from this list I was able to fix it. (Keep everything very clean, even if it loks clean) Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
Re: CSColloid master, vs Silverpuppy, was Re: CSWhere to bye a machine I ca...
Colloidal Master 777, is the one I have used for years, and if your only interested in a pint of CS at a time, like the Slipperey Puppy, then of course you need not worry about a mixing device, I sent my slippery Puppy back to the pound for a refund. The fish tank bubblier used is the cheapest and smallest you can buy, aprox. $3.00 to $4.00. I use inline air filter and inline valuve to clean the air and the valuve to regulate the air flow. These are bought at the pet store in seperate packages, or as 5 or 6 in a package for about 25 cents each, The filters last according to how clean your air is, and the valuves last forever, I am still on my first one. The cost time per gallon of a Colloidal Master 777 , is a tiny percent of that of most all other units except Terry Chamberlin has a 10 gallon per hourunit that I think would make CS even cheaper. marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 1/4/06 2:10:13 PM Central Standard Time, sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes: Many Colloid Master owners seem happy with their generators, but I myself don't think I would have liked it. just my two cents, which I wanted to add, as many people believe the Silverpuppy is more expensive, and I don't think it is, once you add in the additional costs to the Colloid Master. I have a Colloid Master and haven't found it necessary to add any stirring device. Makes fine CS with a minimum of time, space or bother. FWIW. MA Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
Re: CScolloid master 777 instructions tips...
In a message dated 1/6/06 10:13:45 AM Central Standard Time, telt...@yahoo.com writes: One thing to watch for is to clean witha paper towel all inside surface of you glass container. current can get to going around the jars inside rather than jumping from Neg to Pos. and cause no colloidal action in the jar No kidding Tel? I never knew that. Thanks very much for sharing. I do have a question pertaining to that though: I always use the same quart jars for processing. Most of them have a *staining* of plated silver somewhere on the inside of them. This cannot be removed. Are you saying, then, that this plating will interfere with the processing of the CS? If so, then I need to throw them away and start with new jars. MA
Re: CSColloid master, vs Silverpuppy, was Re: CSWhere to bye a machine I ca...
I routinely make half gallon batches with my Silverpuppy, and have made gallons. The pup is NOT limited to pints by any means. sol Tel Tofflemire wrote: Colloidal Master 777, is the one I have used for years, and if your only interested in a pint of CS at a time, like the Slipperey Puppy, then of course you need not worry about a mixing device, I sent my slippery Puppy back to the pound for a refund. The fish tank bubblier used is the cheapest and smallest you can buy, aprox. $3.00 to $4.00. I use inline air filter and inline valuve to clean the air and the valuve to regulate the air flow. These are bought at the pet store in seperate packages, or as 5 or 6 in a package for about 25 cents each, The filters last according to how clean your air is, and the valuves last forever, I am still on my first one. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScolloid master 777 instructions tips...
You can remove the plating in the jars with straight 3% hydrogen peroxide. No need to fill the jar, just add around 1/4 to 1/2 cup and turn the jar so the peroxide has some time to sit on all the inner surface. Rinse several times in hottest tap water, then rinse a couple times with distilled water. sol marmar...@aol.com wrote: No kidding Tel? I never knew that. Thanks very much for sharing. I do have a question pertaining to that though: I always use the same quart jars for processing. Most of them have a *staining* of plated silver somewhere on the inside of them. This cannot be removed. Are you saying, then, that this plating will interfere with the processing of the CS? If so, then I need to throw them away and start with new jars. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid master, vs Silverpuppy, was Re: CSWhere to bye a machine I can trust?
I have these two,plus Trem's earlier model w/o the stirrer,plus his new 'stirrer' model,,(http://www.silvergen.com/) I run several at a time,combining the SilverPuppy's magnet stir with a non stir model.. Gotto' go,,all this stirring stuff makes me dizzy.. BTW thanks all for the Green Food info,,most helpful,,as usual from this list - Original Message - Subject: CSColloid master, vs Silverpuppy, was Re: CSWhere to bye a machine I can trust? Not to quibble overmuch but several people have found they did need to -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid master, vs Silverpuppy, was Re: CSWhere to bye a machine I ca...
In a message dated 1/4/06 2:10:13 PM Central Standard Time, sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes: Many Colloid Master owners seem happy with their generators, but I myself don't think I would have liked it. just my two cents, which I wanted to add, as many people believe the Silverpuppy is more expensive, and I don't think it is, once you add in the additional costs to the Colloid Master. I have a Colloid Master and haven't found it necessary to add any stirring device. Makes fine CS with a minimum of time, space or bother. FWIW. MA
CScolloid master 777 instructions tips...
hello all... silly me, i seem to have misplaced my instructions and so i'm checking in with anyone who would be so kind as to (pretty please :-) ) give me a quick training session... what settings to use, etc i'm excited about this, it's going to be my very first batch... any help would be greatly appreciated... thanks! dc -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSColloid master, vs Silverpuppy, was Re: CSWhere to bye a machine I can trust?
Not to quibble overmuch but several people have found they did need to add stirring of some kind to the colloid master. It is also not as self-contained as the Silverpuppy and the Silvergen. And it does require use of alligator clips attached to wires that have to be clipped onto the flat silver electrodes. None of the above is a particularly big deal, but the Colloid Master is also about the same price as the Silverpuppy magnetic stir unit when shipping costs is added in (it may actually end up more expensive by a bit). It will certainly be more expensive once some kind of stirring is added as many have found necessary. To me the advantages of the more compact, pup, with stirring built in, and no wires trailing around, no alligator clips, makes it far the better, more convenient to use and more economical option. Many Colloid Master owners seem happy with their generators, but I myself don't think I would have liked it. just my two cents, which I wanted to add, as many people believe the Silverpuppy is more expensive, and I don't think it is, once you add in the additional costs to the Colloid Master. sol Bill Keen wrote: Mike D. Laura, Here are two very good machines according to the members of this list: Colloid Master http://www.wishgranted.com/ec_store/item52.htm Silver Puppy http://www.silvermedicine.org/silverpuppy-generators.html The Colloid Master does not need a stirrer as the method used generates a stirring action in the CS naturally. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSColloid Master questions, was Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #234
We have had success in making one Gallon batches using a 1 1/2 inch distance between electrodes. This is a quote from the Wishgranted website re the Colloid Master 777. What kind of brew jar do you use to make a gallon in? How do you space the electrodes? It looks to me from the photos at the website that if you used a 1 gallon glass jar, and put the electrodes 1 1/2 apart they would be edge on to each other? Do you use the standard 6 by 1/2 inch electrodes or the 8 by 1/2 inch ones, and how does that affect the dial setting? How long does it take to make a gallon? Do you use any kind of cover on the brew jar during processing? I wish they would put a photo of this generator in action on the website--if there is one, I didn't find it. Regarding stirring, the Colloid Master (R) employs a bi-directional current pattern to the electrodes. This causes the particles to be moved into the solution without the use of a stirrer. Another quote from their website. So apparently (though I didn't read it that way) bi-directional current pattern means Polarity Reversal, my mistake that I didn't realize that. I'm not sure, even with my mis-read of the info at the site re polarity reversal, that I would change my opinion. I would like to see a photo of this unit in action, and I'd also like to see a photo or have a description of your gallon set up. TIA, sol Dave wrote: For around a hundred bucks you get a generator that easily makes gallon batches without any reason to stir as it changes polarity every 55 seconds and shuts off when done. I don't know where Sol gets such convoluted information but it would be better if correct. The colloid master is current controlled and doesn't cost an arm and a leg to buy, unlike the SG-6. My suggestion is go there and decide for your self, not just blindly buy what is sold by list members. Dave -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 4/6/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master questions, was Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #234
I use a gallon sun tea jar with a spigot on the side so I can decant without worry or inconvenience of filtering. I cut two slots in the lid to insert the 1/2 inch wide silver strips through. I have been using the 6 inch strips but have ordered the 8 In. ones for later. I make a small curl in the end of the strips to attach the alligator clips to and also to keep them from falling into the brew. I set the dial at 8. They told me that at that setting I should get 22 ppm. As far as time is concerned It depends on the purity of the distilled water. I usually set it up at bed time and have it done anywhere between arising in the morning and noon. Which isn't too long considering the amount. Lately I have attached two Silver Eagles to the strips to have more silver to the water and that hurries things up a little. I bought one for my daughter and she didn't get around to using it for over a year. As luck would have It there was something wrong with it. I contacted them and they said there would be no charge to fix or replace the unit.They replaced it and paid the shipping. Dave sol wrote: We have had success in making one Gallon batches using a 1 1/2 inch distance between electrodes. This is a quote from the Wishgranted website re the Colloid Master 777. What kind of brew jar do you use to make a gallon in? How do you space the electrodes? It looks to me from the photos at the website that if you used a 1 gallon glass jar, and put the electrodes 1 1/2 apart they would be edge on to each other? Do you use the standard 6 by 1/2 inch electrodes or the 8 by 1/2 inch ones, and how does that affect the dial setting? How long does it take to make a gallon? Do you use any kind of cover on the brew jar during processing? I wish they would put a photo of this generator in action on the website--if there is one, I didn't find it. Regarding stirring, the Colloid Master (R) employs a bi-directional current pattern to the electrodes. This causes the particles to be moved into the solution without the use of a stirrer. Another quote from their website. So apparently (though I didn't read it that way) bi-directional current pattern means Polarity Reversal, my mistake that I didn't realize that. I'm not sure, even with my mis-read of the info at the site re polarity reversal, that I would change my opinion. I would like to see a photo of this unit in action, and I'd also like to see a photo or have a description of your gallon set up. TIA, sol Dave wrote: For around a hundred bucks you get a generator that easily makes gallon batches without any reason to stir as it changes polarity every 55 seconds and shuts off when done. I don't know where Sol gets such convoluted information but it would be better if correct. The colloid master is current controlled and doesn't cost an arm and a leg to buy, unlike the SG-6. My suggestion is go there and decide for your self, not just blindly buy what is sold by list members. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSColloid Master AC
Does anyone on this list have the Colloid Master AC and if so how do you like it and how well does it work for you? I just bought one and need to learn how to use it from someone who already uses one like it. I have only made two quarts and both of them turned out a pale yellow. Is this ok to use like that? Appreciate any help, Faye
Re: CSColloid Master AC
Faye, I have had mine for quite a few yrs in fact I am a dealer for all of their products. 1. I make a Gallon at a time, use a fish tank bubblier with air filter and end diffuser stone. I Set it for 12 to 15 PPM, as per my testing equipment. (mostly guess work but close) color can range from clear to violet, to light yellow, or dark for over kill..(too long on the Colloidal Master) reason it did not shut off is neck of your container was silver plated...need to keep it clean with paper towel. Your yellow CS is fin to use, make sure your Qt jars are clean...(effects the color) New does not mean clean. You can email me off line at telt...@cableone.net Tel Tofflemire Dewey , AZ Faye Killian wrote: Does anyone on this list have the Colloid Master AC and if so how do you like it and how well does it work for you? I just bought one and need to learn how to use it from someone who already uses one like it. I have only made two quarts and both of them turned out a pale yellow. Is this ok to use like that?Appreciate any help,Faye
CSColloid Master AC
Hello Tel Tofflemire, Your email address didn't come through so could you please email me off line at fkill...@bayou.com Would like to discuss the Master AC further with you. Thanks, Faye Re: CSColloid Master AC a.. From: Tel Tofflemire (view other messages by this author) b.. Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:13:08 Faye, I have had mine for quite a few yrs in fact I am a dealer for all of their products. 1. I make a Gallon at a time, use a fish tank bubblier with air filter and end diffuser stone. I Set it for 12 to 15 PPM, as per my testing equipment. (mostly guess work but close) color can range from clear to violet, to light yellow, or dark for over kill..(too long on the Colloidal Master) reason it did not shut off is neck of your container was silver plated...need to keep it clean with paper towel. Your yellow CS is fin to use, make sure your Qt jars are clean...(effects the color) New does not mean clean. You can email me off line at Tel Tofflemire Dewey , AZ
CSColloid Master 777 or Silvergen SG6???
Okay, I've been lurking here for awhile, and I'm now ALMOST ready to make the leap to buying my first CS generator. While I'll eventually buy a combo unit BEer/CS maker from Alvin or SOTA, I've decided to go ahead right now with a dedicated CS generator. I think I've narrowed it down to these two units, but I'm having a tough time deciding. I'd love to hear opinions from some veterans out there. I like the Colloid Master 777s price ($50 less) and all the info on the site leads me to beleive these guys know their stuff. Also like that I can get a combo with a distiller and all the adapters (to use in our RV or dry camping), and a nice carrying case. The front panel of the unit seems more user-friendly to me, also. The SG6 is more expensive, but he has shown the guts, and it sure looks well-made. The big feature I like here is that it appears to screw right onto the receptacle jar. Price is not going to be the deciding factor here. I'm really interested in others' experience with ease of use, how long it takes to make a batch (say, 32 oz.), and quality. Opinions, please Linda Ellis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master 777 or Silvergen SG6???
On Thu, 9 May 2002 18:00:44 EDT, lindael...@aol.com wrote: Price is not going to be the deciding factor here. I'm really interested in others' experience with ease of use, how long it takes to make a batch (say, 32 oz.), and quality. I make a gallon at a time with the SG6. Takes two shots -- run it until done once (about 12-15 hours), then let is stir for a while. Then turn it off for 1 minute, then back on again until it's done (about 3-4 hours). It'll be close to whatever you set the control to. 32 ounces should take 4-5 hours (if I recall correctly -- it's been more than a year since I made that size batch). -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
