Re: CSzappers, etc. 11 Feb
Thanks PT, I had lost touch with him many years ago. OK, Tony On 11 Feb 2013 at 11:32, PT Ferrance wrote about : Subject : Re: CSzappers, etc.11 Feb Go to www.worldwithoutparasites.com and contact him from there. PT From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, February 11, 2013 10:24:12 AM Subject: Re: CSzappers, etc.11 Feb Hi There Tony thanks for the info. I would like to get in touch with Don how may this be done ? Sandee Attitude is everything ! AliveAgainSilver - Drops Gel sandeemagic.organogold.com Woman is 53 But Looks 25 53/YO Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... ConsumerLifestyleMag.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSzappers, etc. 11 Feb
Hi There Tony thanks for the info. I would like to get in touch with Don how may this be done ? Sandee Attitude is everything ! AliveAgainSilver - Drops Gel sandeemagic.organogold.com Woman is 53 But Looks 25 53/YO Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/51190cffa7d6ccf4212dst02vuc
Re: CSzappers, etc. 11 Feb
Go to www.worldwithoutparasites.com and contact him from there. PT From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, February 11, 2013 10:24:12 AM Subject: Re: CSzappers, etc.11 Feb Hi There Tony thanks for the info. I would like to get in touch with Don how may this be done ? Sandee Attitude is everything ! AliveAgainSilver - Drops Gel sandeemagic.organogold.com Woman is 53 But Looks 25 53/YO Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... ConsumerLifestyleMag.com
Re: CSzappers, etc.
My wife has Hashimoto's disease I wonder if this method would help her? You said it has helped you, so I will have to find a set of schematics to build one, unless you happen to have a schematic? From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 8:11 PM Subject: CSzappers, etc. I have used a Don Croft Terminator II zapper for nearly 15 years. I use it regularly-nearly every day. It has been wonderful. Also, anyone with any kind of thyroid issue will probably be greatly, greatly benefitted by the ingestion of iodine. I have used Lugols's at 5% for about 8 years at 50 or more milligrams, not micrograms, per day and am very happy about it. I intend to continue without letup until I can find or experience something fairly major that will convince me to do otherwise. My mistrust of the medical establishment on this issue is complete. Best wishes, pj
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Hashimoto's is what I was told I had. You might want to go look at www.worldwithoutparasites.com Don Croft designed the Terminator and the T-Rex which I use. PT From: James McDonald kscma...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, February 10, 2013 9:49:59 AM Subject: Re: CSzappers, etc. My wife has Hashimoto's disease I wonder if this method would help her? You said it has helped you, so I will have to find a set of schematics to build one, unless you happen to have a schematic? From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 8:11 PM Subject: CSzappers, etc. I have used a Don Croft Terminator II zapper for nearly 15 years. I use it regularly-nearly every day. It has been wonderful. Also, anyone with any kind of thyroid issue will probably be greatly, greatly benefitted by the ingestion of iodine. I have used Lugols's at 5% for about 8 years at 50 or more milligrams, not micrograms, per day and am very happy about it. I intend to continue without letup until I can find or experience something fairly major that will convince me to do otherwise. My mistrust of the medical establishment on this issue is complete. Best wishes, pj
Re: CSzappers, etc.
Hi James, Rather get one from Don Croft. I make Hulda Clark zappers. Don sent me one of his to try. That is what i go to if I need one, like for a new tick bite. Mine work fairly well but his is much better; It is a normal Hulda Clark Zapper but with low current usage circuitry that i haven't really got, so it will run for many hours without irritating and without flattening the battery. very neat and compact and well made. Also he includes magnetic and orgone substances . OK, Tony On 10 Feb 2013 at 6:48, James McDonald wrote about : Subject : Re: CSzappers, etc. My wife has Hashimoto's disease I wonder if this method would help her? You said it has helped you, so I will have to find a set of schematics to build one, unless you happen to have a schematic? From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 8:11 PM Subject: CSzappers, etc. I have used a Don Croft Terminator II zapper for nearly 15 years. I use it regularly-nearly every day. It has been wonderful. Also, anyone with any kind of thyroid issue will probably be greatly, greatly benefitted by the ingestion of iodine. I have used Lugols's at 5% for about 8 years at 50 or more milligrams, not micrograms, per day and am very happy about it. I intend to continue without letup until I can find or experience something fairly major that will convince me to do otherwise. My mistrust of the medical establishment on this issue is complete. Best wishes, pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSzappers, etc.
I have used a Don Croft Terminator II zapper for nearly 15 years. I use it regularly-nearly every day. It has been wonderful. Also, anyone with any kind of thyroid issue will probably be greatly, greatly benefitted by the ingestion of iodine. I have used Lugols's at 5% for about 8 years at 50 or more milligrams, not micrograms, per day and am very happy about it. I intend to continue without letup until I can find or experience something fairly major that will convince me to do otherwise. My mistrust of the medical establishment on this issue is complete. Best wishes, pj
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Vince, I am open-minded about the synchrometer and would LOVE to have a first-rate device to experiment with.You mention the need for one in a previous posting. If you ever hear of more about this, please share it with us.Self-testing muscle strength is not easy to do, either. We need a good, simple device.BTW I purchased an electronic muscle tester more than a year ago; I returned it because it was unreliable.When the right device comes along, it will change many people's lives. I would love to be an investor in a first-rate resonance testing device for molecular resonance phenomena. BTW there are some devices made in Israel that may one day make it into the health field; currently they are for counterfeit detection and bioterrorism work. JBB On Sunday, Oct 26, 2003, at 15:22 Asia/Tokyo, Robb Allen wrote: Do you use a syncrometer??Robb - Original Message - From: Vince Richter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 7:35 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers Rob, There’s a video complete with sound available of a seminar devoted to synchrometer operation. The resonance was clearly audible. The normal practice time for most people is at least 20 minutes to get the hang of the pressure and quick release necessary for proper synchrometer operation. I saw the video and then sent it back to my brother. It seems that you’ve spent some time researching this. I wonder if you’ve been looking in the wrong places for “proof” and information? It’s there and not too hard to find…. Vince -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent:Saturday, October 25, 20031:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers I hope your right.I'm just saying that I have NEVER seen any evidence of a syncrometer working.all that would be necessary to prove that it works is a recording of a no resonance test.and a recording of a resonance testI'm a musician and I've worked in the sound industry for a long timeI have a keen ear and I understand harmonics and resonance..I have yet to hear any difference between a positive and a negative syncrometer test.I would love for someone to provide these recordings.if what you say is true...then her testing procedures require a PH D .this is very contrary to her writings.according to her anyone can use a syncrometer as long as you can hearRobb
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As a violin and viola player, I would say not the vibrato, but the actual pitch changes rapidly upward when resonance is present. Vince Robb Allen writes: that is the only difference I have heard in syncrometer tests.the vibrato depth is deeper on some tests than others..Robb - Original Message - From: Vince Richter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers It's not the actual sounds that indicate resonance. It's the relative rate at which the sounds change (increase) in frequency. We hear that change in frequency which indicates resonance (resonance indicates the presence of the substance being tested for) as a rapid change (increase) in pitch. It's similar to the feedback in an audio system when the amplified sound gets to the microphone and gets amplified again and again. Vince -Original Message- From: twll [mailto:t...@alltel.net] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 9:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers What if those sounds could be turned into a digital number read out? Exp. this parasite =85759950 that parasite =6575885the same for toxins heavy metals ! - Original Message - From: Vince Richter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:35 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers Rob, There's a video complete with sound available of a seminar devoted to synchrometer operation. The resonance was clearly audible. The normal practice time for most people is at least 20 minutes to get the hang of the pressure and quick release necessary for proper synchrometer operation. I saw the video and then sent it back to my brother. It seems that you've spent some time researching this. I wonder if you've been looking in the wrong places for proof and information? It's there and not too hard to find.. Vince -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers I hope your right.I'm just saying that I have NEVER seen any evidence of a syncrometer working.all that would be necessary to prove that it works is a recording of a no resonance test.and a recording of a resonance testI'm a musician and I've worked in the sound industry for a long timeI have a keen ear and I understand harmonics and resonance..I have yet to hear any difference between a positive and a negative syncrometer test.I would love for someone to provide these recordings.if what you say is true...then her testing procedures require a PH D .this is very contrary to her writings.according to her anyone can use a syncrometer as long as you can hearRobb -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Do you use a syncrometer??Robb - Original Message - From: Vince Richter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 7:35 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers Rob, There's a video complete with sound available of a seminar devoted to synchrometer operation. The resonance was clearly audible. The normal practice time for most people is at least 20 minutes to get the hang of the pressure and quick release necessary for proper synchrometer operation. I saw the video and then sent it back to my brother. It seems that you've spent some time researching this. I wonder if you've been looking in the wrong places for proof and information? It's there and not too hard to find.. Vince -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers I hope your right.I'm just saying that I have NEVER seen any evidence of a syncrometer working.all that would be necessary to prove that it works is a recording of a no resonance test.and a recording of a resonance testI'm a musician and I've worked in the sound industry for a long timeI have a keen ear and I understand harmonics and resonance..I have yet to hear any difference between a positive and a negative syncrometer test.I would love for someone to provide these recordings.if what you say is true...then her testing procedures require a PH D .this is very contrary to her writings.according to her anyone can use a syncrometer as long as you can hearRobb
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Robb Allen wrote: I think at this point I have to disagree with 2 things...first of all all of the gadgets in the terminator are probably there for the mental benefit of those who use it.and 2nd.since I have been unable to find anyone who can admit that they have a working syncometer.until that time I have to dismiss anything I read about Hulda Clark. Almost all of her findings are based on the syncrometer and alot of very intelligent people have tried to get it to work with NO results.. I must admit that I really want to believe her...but until I can see proof.I don't The syncometer works by other means than physical. It involves the tester's abilities, which are not physical. As far as I am concerned it is nothing more than a way to do dowsing, without making it look like dowsing. I supect that people who can dowse successfully will find the meter works as well, and those that cannot dowse cannot. Intellegence has absolutely nothing to do with it, it is more of a gift or a connection with one's subconcious. In fact I believe it, like dowsing, will NOT work if the user is highly intellegent and certain that it won't. That is the way the subconcious works, it will not ever do anything if the intellegent side of the brain believes it to be impossible. ..I do believe that zapper have some uses, but i think it is MUCH less effective than Hulda clark says..after allhow many of us have used it for the required time and found that poof..our problems are gone.not meand not anyone else that I know...I have loaned both of my zapper to people with illnesses that it should work on.and I have NEVER seen it work for anyone.this is the internetwe can say anything we choose.probably 90% of what we read is a lie..lies are a benefit to those who make money with these contraptionsRobb My sister who was unable to complete get rid of her lymes with CS only was successful in curing herself once she used the Beck protocol (but with a zapper), which included the zapper as well as the pulsar. Unfortunately everyone I know that used the zapper and was cured, used it as part of the Beck protocol, not just the zapper, so it is difficult to say if the zapper alone did anything or not. Marshall PS..this is just my opinion.and I'm not calling anyone a liar...trust me when I say that I really want to believe hulda clark - Original Message - From: Jannette Abel je...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:51 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper- design details and MS Here are the details for Don Croft's Terminator zapper. http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com/components.html It is a modification of Dr. Clark's zapper and an improvement that encourages me to use it...I do not have the patience/mindset to use the original zapper design. I have never been burned by the terminals, and move it around if wearing for longer than 3 hours. I have had mine for more than a year. I believe that the reason this zapper is so effective IS because of the additional magnet, mobius coil, crystal and orgone. They all work together to exponentially increase the effectiveness of the terminator - a synergistic effect. It is interesting to see that Dr. Clark has added a magnet to her latest improved zapper also. I use it for parasite cleansing and am now experimenting with it for gingivitis (which returns if I miss 5 days of CS mouthwash), and my MS causing parasites. On the second day of using it (on my thigh), I got a huge contraction of what felt like a muscle at the base of my scull. This was in the area closest to the hypothalamus of the brain where my neurologist had stated that my lesions were primarily located. It felt so tight that it was easy to imagine that the muscle would burst through the skin. To be honest, it scared me! I continued using the zapper daily (about 3-4 hours), and in a few days the muscle seemed to have relaxed. I did not think anything of it. A few weeks later I lent my zapper to my mother for about 3 weeks. When I got it back, the first time I used it the muscle again contracted for a few days. I went on to Dr. Clarks site to see if I could find an explanation of this and found this explanation for MS: Multiple sclerosis (MS) is a disease of the brain and spinal cord. It is called lateral sclerosis if the disease is mainly in the spinal cord. It is caused by fluke parasites reaching the brain or spinal cord and attempting to multiply there. Any of the four common flukes may be responsible. Kill them immediately with your zapper and the herbal parasite program. They cannot return unless you reinfect yourself. I don't know whether to jump for joy (MS should be so easy to cure with the
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Nope. Several people on the Dr. Clark list do. Everyone admits that when an automated synchrometer is invented and sold it will make a huge difference on the accessibility of the synchrometer to the average person. Vince -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 12:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers Do you use a syncrometer??Robb - Original Message - From: Vince mailto:cvin...@ala.net Richter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 7:35 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers Rob, There's a video complete with sound available of a seminar devoted to synchrometer operation. The resonance was clearly audible. The normal practice time for most people is at least 20 minutes to get the hang of the pressure and quick release necessary for proper synchrometer operation. I saw the video and then sent it back to my brother. It seems that you've spent some time researching this. I wonder if you've been looking in the wrong places for proof and information? It's there and not too hard to find.. Vince -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers I hope your right.I'm just saying that I have NEVER seen any evidence of a syncrometer working.all that would be necessary to prove that it works is a recording of a no resonance test.and a recording of a resonance testI'm a musician and I've worked in the sound industry for a long timeI have a keen ear and I understand harmonics and resonance..I have yet to hear any difference between a positive and a negative syncrometer test.I would love for someone to provide these recordings.if what you say is true...then her testing procedures require a PH D .this is very contrary to her writings.according to her anyone can use a syncrometer as long as you can hearRobb
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It's not the actual sounds that indicate resonance. It's the relative rate at which the sounds change (increase) in frequency. We hear that change in frequency which indicates resonance (resonance indicates the presence of the substance being tested for) as a rapid change (increase) in pitch. It's similar to the feedback in an audio system when the amplified sound gets to the microphone and gets amplified again and again. Vince -Original Message- From: twll [mailto:t...@alltel.net] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 9:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers What if those sounds could be turned into a digital number read out? Exp. this parasite =85759950 that parasite =6575885the same for toxins heavy metals ! - Original Message - From: Vince mailto:cvin...@ala.net Richter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:35 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers Rob, There's a video complete with sound available of a seminar devoted to synchrometer operation. The resonance was clearly audible. The normal practice time for most people is at least 20 minutes to get the hang of the pressure and quick release necessary for proper synchrometer operation. I saw the video and then sent it back to my brother. It seems that you've spent some time researching this. I wonder if you've been looking in the wrong places for proof and information? It's there and not too hard to find.. Vince -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers I hope your right.I'm just saying that I have NEVER seen any evidence of a syncrometer working.all that would be necessary to prove that it works is a recording of a no resonance test.and a recording of a resonance testI'm a musician and I've worked in the sound industry for a long timeI have a keen ear and I understand harmonics and resonance..I have yet to hear any difference between a positive and a negative syncrometer test.I would love for someone to provide these recordings.if what you say is true...then her testing procedures require a PH D .this is very contrary to her writings.according to her anyone can use a syncrometer as long as you can hearRobb
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Robb, I wouldn't worry about giving Hulda Clark any money, because unless you buy one of her books, she won't get a dime. She's published her findings and made them available to people like you and I free of charge - no patents or businesses selling products. Many people use her name and market products, but she isn't profiting from all that. Vince -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:04 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers Hi Vincethanks for the info...I will try to look in to that...I have to admit that I'm really hesitant about handing Hulda any more money than I already haveI just really think that some of her writings are really misleading...diseases aren't nearly as easy to eradicate as she says...and they probably never will be.Robb - Original Message - From: Vince mailto:cvin...@ala.net Richter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:35 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers Rob, There's a video complete with sound available of a seminar devoted to synchrometer operation. The resonance was clearly audible. The normal practice time for most people is at least 20 minutes to get the hang of the pressure and quick release necessary for proper synchrometer operation. I saw the video and then sent it back to my brother. It seems that you've spent some time researching this. I wonder if you've been looking in the wrong places for proof and information? It's there and not too hard to find.. Vince -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers I hope your right.I'm just saying that I have NEVER seen any evidence of a syncrometer working.all that would be necessary to prove that it works is a recording of a no resonance test.and a recording of a resonance testI'm a musician and I've worked in the sound industry for a long timeI have a keen ear and I understand harmonics and resonance..I have yet to hear any difference between a positive and a negative syncrometer test.I would love for someone to provide these recordings.if what you say is true...then her testing procedures require a PH D .this is very contrary to her writings.according to her anyone can use a syncrometer as long as you can hearRobb
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that is the only difference I have heard in syncrometer tests.the vibrato depth is deeper on some tests than others..Robb - Original Message - From: Vince Richter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers It's not the actual sounds that indicate resonance. It's the relative rate at which the sounds change (increase) in frequency. We hear that change in frequency which indicates resonance (resonance indicates the presence of the substance being tested for) as a rapid change (increase) in pitch. It's similar to the feedback in an audio system when the amplified sound gets to the microphone and gets amplified again and again. Vince -Original Message- From: twll [mailto:t...@alltel.net] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 9:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers What if those sounds could be turned into a digital number read out? Exp. this parasite =85759950 that parasite =6575885the same for toxins heavy metals ! - Original Message - From: Vince Richter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:35 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers Rob, There's a video complete with sound available of a seminar devoted to synchrometer operation. The resonance was clearly audible. The normal practice time for most people is at least 20 minutes to get the hang of the pressure and quick release necessary for proper synchrometer operation. I saw the video and then sent it back to my brother. It seems that you've spent some time researching this. I wonder if you've been looking in the wrong places for proof and information? It's there and not too hard to find.. Vince -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers I hope your right.I'm just saying that I have NEVER seen any evidence of a syncrometer working.all that would be necessary to prove that it works is a recording of a no resonance test.and a recording of a resonance testI'm a musician and I've worked in the sound industry for a long timeI have a keen ear and I understand harmonics and resonance..I have yet to hear any difference between a positive and a negative syncrometer test.I would love for someone to provide these recordings.if what you say is true...then her testing procedures require a PH D .this is very contrary to her writings.according to her anyone can use a syncrometer as long as you can hearRobb
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Robb, A healthy dose of skepticism is always welcome.My reading of Hulda Clarke suggests that there is a lot of useful material, but too many anecdotes and too little hard science.As for the synchrometer, I think this is not nonsense, but that better methods of non-protocol method, in the hands of highly-trained experts -- can do the kind of resonance matching that her erratic device is supposed to achieve. The best bet anyone has, IMHO, is with an MD trained in the Bi-Digital O-Ring Test of Y. Omura, M.D. I think an expert in this method can carry out extremely subtle molecular resonance tests of the human body. I do not think a layperson with a syncrhometer can do this reliably and consistently. I think that an improved device would be priceless; perhaps some of the German-made EVA-type devices will eventually be able to rival the non-technological BDORT test. So far, no. JBB On Saturday, Oct 25, 2003, at 11:20 Asia/Tokyo, Robb Allen wrote: I think at this point I have to disagree with 2 things...first of all all of the gadgets in the terminator are probably there for the mental benefit of those who use it.and 2nd.since I have been unable to find anyone who can admit that they have a working syncometer.until that time I have to dismiss anything I read about Hulda Clark. Almost all of her findings are based on the syncrometer and alot of very intelligent people have tried to get it to work with NO results.. I must admit that I really want to believe her...but until I can see proof.I don't ..I do believe that zapper have some uses, but i think it is MUCH less effective than Hulda clark says..after allhow many of us have used it for the required time and found that poof..our problems are gone.not meand not anyone else that I know...I have loaned both of my zapper to people with illnesses that it should work on.and I have NEVER seen it work for anyone.this is the internetwe can say anything we choose.probably 90% of what we read is a lie..lies are a benefit to those who make money with these contraptionsRobb PS..this is just my opinion.and I'm not calling anyone a liar...trust me when I say that I really want to believe hulda clark - Original Message - From: Jannette Abel je...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:51 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper- design details and MS Here are the details for Don Croft's Terminator zapper. http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com/components.html It is a modification of Dr. Clark's zapper and an improvement that encourages me to use it...I do not have the patience/mindset to use the original zapper design. I have never been burned by the terminals, and move it around if wearing for longer than 3 hours. I have had mine for more than a year. I believe that the reason this zapper is so effective IS because of the additional magnet, mobius coil, crystal and orgone. They all work together to exponentially increase the effectiveness of the terminator - a synergistic effect. It is interesting to see that Dr. Clark has added a magnet to her latest improved zapper also. I use it for parasite cleansing and am now experimenting with it for gingivitis (which returns if I miss 5 days of CS mouthwash), and my MS causing parasites. On the second day of using it (on my thigh), I got a huge contraction of what felt like a muscle at the base of my scull. This was in the area closest to the hypothalamus of the brain where my neurologist had stated that my lesions were primarily located. It felt so tight that it was easy to imagine that the muscle would burst through the skin. To be honest, it scared me! I continued using the zapper daily (about 3-4 hours), and in a few days the muscle seemed to have relaxed. I did not think anything of it. A few weeks later I lent my zapper to my mother for about 3 weeks. When I got it back, the first time I used it the muscle again contracted for a few days. I went on to Dr. Clarks site to see if I could find an explanation of this and found this explanation for MS: Multiple sclerosis (MS) is a disease of the brain and spinal cord. It is called lateral sclerosis if the disease is mainly in the spinal cord. It is caused by fluke parasites reaching the brain or spinal cord and attempting to multiply there. Any of the four common flukes may be responsible. Kill them immediately with your zapper and the herbal parasite program. They cannot return unless you reinfect yourself. I don't know whether to jump for joy (MS should be so easy to cure with the zapper and CS), or throw up with the nauseating idea of worms in my brain and trying to escape out the back of my head!! For a moment I even wished my neurologist's explanation that my crazy
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Hi EIS'ers, First off a zapper is a TENS machine , Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulator! Medically they has stopped and in some cases reversed macula degeneration. See Dr. David Williams Alternative for Vol. 8. No. 9, March 2000. It works by increasing the blood flow to the retina of the eye. I have bacterially induced arthritis. The common used pills Glucosamine Chondrotin do nothing. Since the zapper thread started I finished up my TENS machine and connected it above and below my knee and let it run for 10 minutes, then changed knees and repeated the process. About 30 minutes later I felt my lower legs and feet were warm and had a slight tingle. Maybe some benefit. Repeated the process the next day, same feeling but I could tell a difference in my walk. Repeated the process the third day at about 8 pm and there was the feelings and they that lasted until about 1 am. When I got up about 3 am I could walk every easily, this morning when I walked the dog I had now pain. There was a slight ache. I did notice that when in bed I had no knee pains. Now is some one who has relief with Glucosamine would try this it would supply a valuable piece of data. For me pills don't work but the TENS machine does. My arthritis is from bacteria, According to Drs. Douglas Whitaker only about 50% of people get relief with pills. The one who is helped with pills may not get relief with zapping !!! I think we need to know Since at 81 I have benign prostate enlargement I will try applying the TENS unit from thigh to thigh and will report. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Robb, list: You need more study.http://syncrometer.n3.net/ Dr. Clark's meeting in Seatle, Wash. at the (Rief Zapper Confrence) Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. Robb Allen wrote: I think at this point I have to disagree with 2 things...first of all all of the gadgets in the terminator are probably there for the mental benefit of those who use it.and 2nd.since I have been unable to find anyone who can admit that they have a working syncometer.until that time I have to dismiss anything I read about Hulda Clark. Almost all of her findings are based on the syncrometer and alot of very intelligent people have tried to get it to work with NO results.. I must admit that I really want to believe her...but until I can see proof.I don't ..I do believe that zapper have some uses, but i think it is MUCH less effective than Hulda clark says..after allhow many of us have used it for the required time and found that poof..our problems are gone.not meand not anyone else that I know...I have loaned both of my zapper to people with illnesses that it should work on.and I have NEVER seen it work for anyone.this is the internetwe can say anything we choose.probably 90% of what we read is a lie..lies are a benefit to those who make money with these contraptionsRobb PS..this is just my opinion.and I'm not calling anyone a liar...trust me when I say that I really want to believe hulda clark - Original Message - From: Jannette Abel je...@optonline.net mailto:je...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:51 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper- design details and MS Here are the details for Don Croft's Terminator zapper. http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com/components.html It is a modification of Dr. Clark's zapper and an improvement that encourages me to use it...I do not have the patience/mindset to use the original zapper design. I have never been burned by the terminals, and move it around if wearing for longer than 3 hours. I have had mine for more than a year. I believe that the reason this zapper is so effective IS because of the additional magnet, mobius coil, crystal and orgone. They all work together to exponentially increase the effectiveness of the terminator - a synergistic effect. It is interesting to see that Dr. Clark has added a magnet to her latest improved zapper also. I use it for parasite cleansing and am now experimenting with it for gingivitis (which returns if I miss 5 days of CS mouthwash), and my MS causing parasites. On the second day of using it (on my thigh), I got a huge contraction of what felt like a muscle at the base of my scull. This was in the area closest to the hypothalamus of the brain where my neurologist had stated that my lesions were primarily located. It felt so tight that it was easy to imagine that the muscle would burst through the skin. To be honest, it scared me! I continued using the zapper daily (about 3-4 hours), and in a few days the muscle seemed to have relaxed. I did not think anything of it. A few weeks later I lent my zapper to my mother for about 3 weeks. When I got it back, the first time I used it the muscle again contracted for a few days. I went on to Dr. Clarks site to see if I could find an explanation of this and found this explanation for MS: Multiple sclerosis (MS) is a disease of the brain and spinal cord. It is called lateral sclerosis if the disease is mainly in the spinal cord. It is caused by fluke parasites reaching the brain or spinal cord and attempting to multiply there. Any of the four common flukes may be responsible. Kill them immediately with your zapper and the herbal parasite program. They cannot return unless you reinfect yourself. I don't know whether to jump for joy (MS should be so easy to cure with the zapper and CS), or throw up with the nauseating idea of worms in my brain and trying to escape out the back of my head!! For a moment I even wished my neurologist's explanation that my crazy immune system was attacking my perfectly healthy brain cells was really true. After a period of total gross-out, and detailed discussions with some fellow MSers, we have accepted Dr. Clarks theory, and our goal is to stop the progression by becoming parasite free, and hopefully with proper care and nutrition, try to reverse the damage. Carol Croft has suggested that 12+ hours per day might be best for MS, so I'm now trying that. Time will tell. Jannette
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I know a few really brilliant doctors who really wanted to try to learn the Syncrometer method.and they can't.so far.the only person who can understand the squeaks and squeals are Hulda herself...I've studied and tried and tried...and like many other people, I would LOVE for Hulda's theories to be real.but they aren't..Robb - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: Re: CSZappers Robb, list: You need more study.http://syncrometer.n3.net/ Dr. Clark's meeting in Seatle, Wash. at the (Rief Zapper Confrence) Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. Robb Allen wrote: I think at this point I have to disagree with 2 things...first of all all of the gadgets in the terminator are probably there for the mental benefit of those who use it.and 2nd.since I have been unable to find anyone who can admit that they have a working syncometer.until that time I have to dismiss anything I read about Hulda Clark. Almost all of her findings are based on the syncrometer and alot of very intelligent people have tried to get it to work with NO results.. I must admit that I really want to believe her...but until I can see proof.I don't ..I do believe that zapper have some uses, but i think it is MUCH less effective than Hulda clark says..after allhow many of us have used it for the required time and found that poof..our problems are gone.not meand not anyone else that I know...I have loaned both of my zapper to people with illnesses that it should work on.and I have NEVER seen it work for anyone.this is the internetwe can say anything we choose.probably 90% of what we read is a lie..lies are a benefit to those who make money with these contraptionsRobb PS..this is just my opinion.and I'm not calling anyone a liar...trust me when I say that I really want to believe hulda clark - Original Message - From: Jannette Abel je...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:51 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper- design details and MS Here are the details for Don Croft's Terminator zapper. http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com/components.html It is a modification of Dr. Clark's zapper and an improvement that encourages me to use it...I do not have the patience/mindset to use the original zapper design. I have never been burned by the terminals, and move it around if wearing for longer than 3 hours. I have had mine for more than a year. I believe that the reason this zapper is so effective IS because of the additional magnet, mobius coil, crystal and orgone. They all work together to exponentially increase the effectiveness of the terminator - a synergistic effect. It is interesting to see that Dr. Clark has added a magnet to her latest improved zapper also. I use it for parasite cleansing and am now experimenting with it for gingivitis (which returns if I miss 5 days of CS mouthwash), and my MS causing parasites. On the second day of using it (on my thigh), I got a huge contraction of what felt like a muscle at the base of my scull. This was in the area closest to the hypothalamus of the brain where my neurologist had stated that my lesions were primarily located. It felt so tight that it was easy to imagine that the muscle would burst through the skin. To be honest, it scared me! I continued using the zapper daily (about 3-4 hours), and in a few days the muscle seemed to have relaxed. I did not think anything of it. A few weeks later I lent my zapper to my mother for about 3 weeks. When I got it back, the first time I used it the muscle again contracted for a few days. I went on to Dr. Clarks site to see if I could find an explanation of this and found this explanation for MS: Multiple sclerosis (MS) is a disease of the brain and spinal cord. It is called lateral sclerosis if the disease is mainly in the spinal cord. It is caused by fluke parasites reaching the brain or spinal cord and attempting to multiply there. Any of the four common flukes may be responsible. Kill them immediately with your zapper and the herbal parasite program. They cannot return unless you reinfect yourself. I don't know whether to jump for joy (MS should be so easy to cure with the zapper and CS), or throw up with the nauseating idea of worms in my brain and trying to escape out the back of my head!! For a moment I even wished my neurologist's explanation that my crazy immune system was attacking my perfectly healthy brain cells was really
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Your wrong Robb, her full staff of Syncrometer, lab techs, Dr's at the Syncrometer Training center near San Diego, and the labs in Switzerland, and Sweden, Mexico and several joint operations in Europe, all understand the operation of the Syncrometer testing device, a marvel in electronics. There are numerous Dr's , Chiropractors, Homopathics around the world including the USA, that work daily with the Syncrometer, and also the Mini Plate Zapper, that does some of the same kinds of testing the big Syncrometer does. I have talked with many of them. I worked for Dr. Clark for a time during their development of the electronic testing equipment. You doubting people have no real idea of how much work has been done in this area over the last 15 yrs. If the Gov. would leave her alone to finish her mission, we would all be better off. Sincerely, Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. Robb Allen wrote: I know a few really brilliant doctors who really wanted to try to learn the Syncrometer method.and they can't.so far.the only person who can understand the squeaks and squeals are Hulda herself...I've studied and tried and tried...and like many other people, I would LOVE for Hulda's theories to be real.but they aren't..Robb - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire mailto:telt...@cableone.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: Re: CSZappers Robb, list: You need more study.http://syncrometer.n3.net/ Dr. Clark's meeting in Seatle, Wash. at the (Rief Zapper Confrence) Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. Robb Allen wrote: I think at this point I have to disagree with 2 things...first of all all of the gadgets in the terminator are probably there for the mental benefit of those who use it.and 2nd.since I have been unable to find anyone who can admit that they have a working syncometer.until that time I have to dismiss anything I read about Hulda Clark. Almost all of her findings are based on the syncrometer and alot of very intelligent people have tried to get it to work with NO results.. I must admit that I really want to believe her...but until I can see proof.I don't ..I do believe that zapper have some uses, but i think it is MUCH less effective than Hulda clark says..after allhow many of us have used it for the required time and found that poof..our problems are gone.not meand not anyone else that I know...I have loaned both of my zapper to people with illnesses that it should work on.and I have NEVER seen it work for anyone.this is the internetwe can say anything we choose.probably 90% of what we read is a lie..lies are a benefit to those who make money with these contraptionsRobb PS..this is just my opinion.and I'm not calling anyone a liar...trust me when I say that I really want to believe hulda clark - Original Message - From: Jannette Abel je...@optonline.net mailto:je...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:51 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper- design details and MS Here are the details for Don Croft's Terminator zapper. http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com/components.html It is a modification of Dr. Clark's zapper and an improvement that encourages me to use it...I do not have the patience/mindset to use the original zapper design. I have never been burned by the terminals, and move it around if wearing for longer than 3 hours. I have had mine for more than a year. I believe that the reason this zapper is so effective IS because of the additional magnet, mobius coil, crystal and orgone. They all work together to exponentially increase the effectiveness of the terminator - a synergistic effect. It is interesting to see that Dr. Clark has added a magnet to her latest improved zapper also. I use it for parasite cleansing and am now experimenting with it for gingivitis (which returns if I miss 5 days of CS mouthwash), and my MS causing parasites. On the second day of using it (on my thigh), I got a huge contraction of what felt like a muscle at the base of my scull. This was in the area closest to the hypothalamus of the brain where my neurologist had stated that my lesions were primarily located. It felt so tight that it was easy to imagine that the muscle would burst through the skin. To be honest, it scared me! I continued using the zapper daily (about 3-4 hours), and in a few days the muscle seemed
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I hope your right.I'm just saying that I have NEVER seen any evidence of a syncrometer working.all that would be necessary to prove that it works is a recording of a no resonance test.and a recording of a resonance testI'm a musician and I've worked in the sound industry for a long timeI have a keen ear and I understand harmonics and resonance..I have yet to hear any difference between a positive and a negative syncrometer test.I would love for someone to provide these recordings.if what you say is true...then her testing procedures require a PH D .this is very contrary to her writings.according to her anyone can use a syncrometer as long as you can hearRobb - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: Re: CSZappers Your wrong Robb, her full staff of Syncrometer, lab techs, Dr's at the Syncrometer Training center near San Diego, and the labs in Switzerland, and Sweden, Mexico and several joint operations in Europe, all understand the operation of the Syncrometer testing device, a marvel in electronics. There are numerous Dr's , Chiropractors, Homopathics around the world including the USA, that work daily with the Syncrometer, and also the Mini Plate Zapper, that does some of the same kinds of testing the big Syncrometer does. I have talked with many of them. I worked for Dr. Clark for a time during their development of the electronic testing equipment. You doubting people have no real idea of how much work has been done in this area over the last 15 yrs. If the Gov. would leave her alone to finish her mission, we would all be better off. Sincerely, Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. Robb Allen wrote: I know a few really brilliant doctors who really wanted to try to learn the Syncrometer method.and they can't.so far.the only person who can understand the squeaks and squeals are Hulda herself...I've studied and tried and tried...and like many other people, I would LOVE for Hulda's theories to be real.but they aren't..Robb - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: Re: CSZappers Robb, list: You need more study.http://syncrometer.n3.net/ Dr. Clark's meeting in Seatle, Wash. at the (Rief Zapper Confrence) Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. Robb Allen wrote: I think at this point I have to disagree with 2 things...first of all all of the gadgets in the terminator are probably there for the mental benefit of those who use it.and 2nd.since I have been unable to find anyone who can admit that they have a working syncometer.until that time I have to dismiss anything I read about Hulda Clark. Almost all of her findings are based on the syncrometer and alot of very intelligent people have tried to get it to work with NO results.. I must admit that I really want to believe her...but until I can see proof.I don't ..I do believe that zapper have some uses, but i think it is MUCH less effective than Hulda clark says..after allhow many of us have used it for the required time and found that poof..our problems are gone.not meand not anyone else that I know...I have loaned both of my zapper to people with illnesses that it should work on.and I have NEVER seen it work for anyone.this is the internetwe can say anything we choose.probably 90% of what we read is a lie..lies are a benefit to those who make money with these contraptionsRobb PS..this is just my opinion.and I'm not calling anyone a liar...trust me when I say that I really want to believe hulda clark - Original Message - From: Jannette Abel je...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:51 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper- design details and MS Here are the details for Don Croft's Terminator zapper. http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com/components.html It is a modification of Dr. Clark's zapper and an improvement that encourages me to use it...I do not have the patience/mindset to use the original zapper design. I have never been burned by the terminals, and move it around if wearing for longer than 3 hours. I have had mine for more than a year. I believe that the reason this zapper is so effective IS because of the additional magnet, mobius coil, crystal and orgone. They all work together to exponentially
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I hope your right.I'm just saying that I have NEVER seen any evidence of a syncrometer working.all that would be necessary to prove that it works is a recording of a no resonance test.and a recording of a resonance testI'm a musician and I've worked in the sound industry for a long timeI have a keen ear and I understand harmonics and resonance..I have yet to hear any difference between a positive and a negative syncrometer test.I would love for someone to provide these recordings.if what you say is true...then her testing procedures require a PH D .this is very contrary to her writings.according to her anyone can use a syncrometer as long as you can hearRobb - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: Re: CSZappers Your wrong Robb, her full staff of Syncrometer, lab techs, Dr's at the Syncrometer Training center near San Diego, and the labs in Switzerland, and Sweden, Mexico and several joint operations in Europe, all understand the operation of the Syncrometer testing device, a marvel in electronics. There are numerous Dr's , Chiropractors, Homopathics around the world including the USA, that work daily with the Syncrometer, and also the Mini Plate Zapper, that does some of the same kinds of testing the big Syncrometer does. I have talked with many of them. I worked for Dr. Clark for a time during their development of the electronic testing equipment. You doubting people have no real idea of how much work has been done in this area over the last 15 yrs. If the Gov. would leave her alone to finish her mission, we would all be better off. Sincerely, Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. Robb Allen wrote: - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: Re: CSZappers Your wrong Robb, her full staff of Syncrometer, lab techs, Dr's at the Syncrometer Training center near San Diego, and the labs in Switzerland, and Sweden, Mexico and several joint operations in Europe, all understand the operation of the Syncrometer testing device, a marvel in electronics. There are numerous Dr's , Chiropractors, Homopathics around the world including the USA, that work daily with the Syncrometer, and also the Mini Plate Zapper, that does some of the same kinds of testing the big Syncrometer does. I have talked with many of them. I worked for Dr. Clark for a time during their development of the electronic testing equipment. You doubting people have no real idea of how much work has been done in this area over the last 15 yrs. If the Gov. would leave her alone to finish her mission, we would all be better off. Sincerely, Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. Robb Allen wrote: I know a few really brilliant doctors who really wanted to try to learn the Syncrometer method.and they can't.so far.the only person who can understand the squeaks and squeals are Hulda herself...I've studied and tried and tried...and like many other people, I would LOVE for Hulda's theories to be real.but they aren't..Robb - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: Re: CSZappers Robb, list: You need more study.http://syncrometer.n3.net/ Dr. Clark's meeting in Seatle, Wash. at the (Rief Zapper Confrence) Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. Robb Allen wrote: I think at this point I have to disagree with 2 things...first of all all of the gadgets in the terminator are probably there for the mental benefit of those who use it.and 2nd.since I have been unable to find anyone who can admit that they have a working syncometer.until that time I have to dismiss anything I read about Hulda Clark. Almost all of her findings are based on the syncrometer and alot of very intelligent people have tried to get it to work with NO results.. I must admit that I really want to believe her...but until I can see proof.I don't ..I do believe that zapper have some uses, but i think it is MUCH less effective than Hulda clark says..after allhow many of us have used it for the required time and found that poof..our problems are gone.not meand not anyone else that I know...I have loaned both of my zapper to people with illnesses that it should work on.and I have NEVER seen it work for anyone.this is the internetwe can say anything we choose.probably 90% of what we read is a lie..lies are a benefit to those who make money with these contraptionsRobb
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Rob, There's a video complete with sound available of a seminar devoted to synchrometer operation. The resonance was clearly audible. The normal practice time for most people is at least 20 minutes to get the hang of the pressure and quick release necessary for proper synchrometer operation. I saw the video and then sent it back to my brother. It seems that you've spent some time researching this. I wonder if you've been looking in the wrong places for proof and information? It's there and not too hard to find.. Vince -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers I hope your right.I'm just saying that I have NEVER seen any evidence of a syncrometer working.all that would be necessary to prove that it works is a recording of a no resonance test.and a recording of a resonance testI'm a musician and I've worked in the sound industry for a long timeI have a keen ear and I understand harmonics and resonance..I have yet to hear any difference between a positive and a negative syncrometer test.I would love for someone to provide these recordings.if what you say is true...then her testing procedures require a PH D .this is very contrary to her writings.according to her anyone can use a syncrometer as long as you can hearRobb
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Hi Vincethanks for the info...I will try to look in to that...I have to admit that I'm really hesitant about handing Hulda any more money than I already haveI just really think that some of her writings are really misleading...diseases aren't nearly as easy to eradicate as she says...and they probably never will be.Robb - Original Message - From: Vince Richter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:35 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers Rob, There's a video complete with sound available of a seminar devoted to synchrometer operation. The resonance was clearly audible. The normal practice time for most people is at least 20 minutes to get the hang of the pressure and quick release necessary for proper synchrometer operation. I saw the video and then sent it back to my brother. It seems that you've spent some time researching this. I wonder if you've been looking in the wrong places for proof and information? It's there and not too hard to find.. Vince -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers I hope your right.I'm just saying that I have NEVER seen any evidence of a syncrometer working.all that would be necessary to prove that it works is a recording of a no resonance test.and a recording of a resonance testI'm a musician and I've worked in the sound industry for a long timeI have a keen ear and I understand harmonics and resonance..I have yet to hear any difference between a positive and a negative syncrometer test.I would love for someone to provide these recordings.if what you say is true...then her testing procedures require a PH D .this is very contrary to her writings.according to her anyone can use a syncrometer as long as you can hearRobb
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What if those sounds could be turned into a digital number read out? Exp. this parasite =85759950 that parasite =6575885the same for toxins heavy metals ! - Original Message - From: Vince Richter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:35 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers Rob, There's a video complete with sound available of a seminar devoted to synchrometer operation. The resonance was clearly audible. The normal practice time for most people is at least 20 minutes to get the hang of the pressure and quick release necessary for proper synchrometer operation. I saw the video and then sent it back to my brother. It seems that you've spent some time researching this. I wonder if you've been looking in the wrong places for proof and information? It's there and not too hard to find.. Vince -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers I hope your right.I'm just saying that I have NEVER seen any evidence of a syncrometer working.all that would be necessary to prove that it works is a recording of a no resonance test.and a recording of a resonance testI'm a musician and I've worked in the sound industry for a long timeI have a keen ear and I understand harmonics and resonance..I have yet to hear any difference between a positive and a negative syncrometer test.I would love for someone to provide these recordings.if what you say is true...then her testing procedures require a PH D .this is very contrary to her writings.according to her anyone can use a syncrometer as long as you can hearRobb
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I think at this point I have to disagree with 2 things...first of all all of the gadgets in the terminator are probably there for the mental benefit of those who use it.and 2nd.since I have been unable to find anyone who can admit that they have a working syncometer.until that time I have to dismiss anything I read about Hulda Clark. Almost all of her findings are based on the syncrometer and alot of very intelligent people have tried to get it to work with NO results.. I must admit that I really want to believe her...but until I can see proof.I don't ..I do believe that zapper have some uses, but i think it is MUCH less effective than Hulda clark says..after allhow many of us have used it for the required time and found that poof..our problems are gone.not meand not anyone else that I know...I have loaned both of my zapper to people with illnesses that it should work on.and I have NEVER seen it work for anyone.this is the internetwe can say anything we choose.probably 90% of what we read is a lie..lies are a benefit to those who make money with these contraptionsRobb PS..this is just my opinion.and I'm not calling anyone a liar...trust me when I say that I really want to believe hulda clark - Original Message - From: Jannette Abel je...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:51 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper- design details and MS Here are the details for Don Croft's Terminator zapper. http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com/components.html It is a modification of Dr. Clark's zapper and an improvement that encourages me to use it...I do not have the patience/mindset to use the original zapper design. I have never been burned by the terminals, and move it around if wearing for longer than 3 hours. I have had mine for more than a year. I believe that the reason this zapper is so effective IS because of the additional magnet, mobius coil, crystal and orgone. They all work together to exponentially increase the effectiveness of the terminator - a synergistic effect. It is interesting to see that Dr. Clark has added a magnet to her latest improved zapper also. I use it for parasite cleansing and am now experimenting with it for gingivitis (which returns if I miss 5 days of CS mouthwash), and my MS causing parasites. On the second day of using it (on my thigh), I got a huge contraction of what felt like a muscle at the base of my scull. This was in the area closest to the hypothalamus of the brain where my neurologist had stated that my lesions were primarily located. It felt so tight that it was easy to imagine that the muscle would burst through the skin. To be honest, it scared me! I continued using the zapper daily (about 3-4 hours), and in a few days the muscle seemed to have relaxed. I did not think anything of it. A few weeks later I lent my zapper to my mother for about 3 weeks. When I got it back, the first time I used it the muscle again contracted for a few days. I went on to Dr. Clarks site to see if I could find an explanation of this and found this explanation for MS: Multiple sclerosis (MS) is a disease of the brain and spinal cord. It is called lateral sclerosis if the disease is mainly in the spinal cord. It is caused by fluke parasites reaching the brain or spinal cord and attempting to multiply there. Any of the four common flukes may be responsible. Kill them immediately with your zapper and the herbal parasite program. They cannot return unless you reinfect yourself. I don't know whether to jump for joy (MS should be so easy to cure with the zapper and CS), or throw up with the nauseating idea of worms in my brain and trying to escape out the back of my head!! For a moment I even wished my neurologist's explanation that my crazy immune system was attacking my perfectly healthy brain cells was really true. After a period of total gross-out, and detailed discussions with some fellow MSers, we have accepted Dr. Clarks theory, and our goal is to stop the progression by becoming parasite free, and hopefully with proper care and nutrition, try to reverse the damage. Carol Croft has suggested that 12+ hours per day might be best for MS, so I'm now trying that. Time will tell. Jannette
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I have had a lot of good results with using a zapper. (This is the Hulda Clark zapper consisting of a 30KHz 9VDC square wave output, made with a 555 timer.) Among the things I and others I know have used if for effectively are: shingles mononucleosis vaginitis bladder stone/bladder infections (dog) tumor on leg (dog) gingivitis colds and flu especially if caught early prostate problems -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Del, I am of your mindset. After reading so many positive posts on the good results of zapping, I decided that all these people couldn't be liars. So I decided that if I could find what seemed to me to be a reasonable priced zapper, I would go for one. The Croft zapper was only $50 or $60 at the time and he offered a 30 day money back guarantee so I went for it. When it arrived, I sat down to use it as I was a bit afraid or nervous about it. (Electricity is mysterious and scary to me.) After about an hour, I got up to get a drink of water and when halfway to the kitchen, I realized that I had not hobbled due to the pain of a heel spur. Hobble is putting it mildly. Agony on first trying to walk and having to hold on to things for the first few seconds of walking. Painful at all times, but really bad when first using the foot. I have not had pain in that heel since that time. I zapped with a will after that. Nothing much happened for a time. I thought well, if that's all it does it is still worth it. But in about 2 weeks--give or take--don't recall now-- the extreme fatigue I had experienced for many months was gone!! I took a carload of youngsters to Magic Mountain, got there early, home at 2:30 a.m. and I was perhaps in better shape than they were. I immediately bought a spare from him, just in case something happened to the one I had. As he came out with new models, I got each one. I now have 5. That is overkill, but I like them all.His website if a bit far out what with orgone, cloudbusting, etc,. but he may be right on. Doesn't matter---his zappers work. I still have cancer and it's getting worse, but I had that already and I feel great so I have no complaints on that score. If I die from cancer feeling good, I can sure accept that!!I am a 62 year old female and am in better shape than many younger ones. At least I can do a full days work, even yardwork with pickaxes (not pickaxes all day but for 2 or 3 hours I'm ok with it.) and still have energy to spare. A six hour day in the yard is fairly easy, and I'm talking heavy work. Still energy to spare.I will continue to use his zappers. I also have a Beck unit from Sota, their mag. pulser, and Clark's ozonator. I think Beck's protocol is more powerful than the zapper, but the full protocol is fairly difficult to do and work too. I am currently starting on the full Beck protocol though because of the cancer. I do experience the depression with this so I'm not looking forward to that, but it looks like the thing to do.I use the Croft zapper almost 24/7, but when I get some dental work done, this can probably be reduced.Once bought a zapper from a friend who had purchased it on my recommendation. It was not working. I sent it back to Mr. Croft and he quickly repaired it at no cost whatsoever, even no charge for shipping. So I regard him as a man of his word. My experiences. Best wishes to you. pj - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
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At 02:41 PM 3/2/02 -0700, you wrote: To what was the other lead of the meter connected?; I doubt very much it was a 1.5 to 9v very low ampere output battery. James-Osbourne: Holmes Or what kind of meter was it? Was it a megger? Joseph Fritz -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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DON'T STICK A BATTERY IN YOUR MOUTH!. My rich electrician brother in law when in training had a classmate use a mutimeter in his mouth an hit a nerve to the brain and died. -Original Message- From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:48 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSzappers Catherine, the battery on the tongue might work really well, but it sure is hard on the tongue!! H. Clark says you can use a battery and get a good zap by repeatedly tapping it on the palm of the hand (there is more to that but I forget!), but it isn't as beneficial and the battery won't last long. Anyway, the zapper does a lot for me. pj __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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You have got to be kidding! That is my standard method of validating a 9 V battery. Everyone I know does it. Marshall Wes O wrote: DON'T STICK A BATTERY IN YOUR MOUTH!. My rich electrician brother in law when in training had a classmate use a mutimeter in his mouth an hit a nerve to the brain and died. -Original Message- From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:48 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSzappers Catherine, the battery on the tongue might work really well, but it sure is hard on the tongue!! H. Clark says you can use a battery and get a good zap by repeatedly tapping it on the palm of the hand (there is more to that but I forget!), but it isn't as beneficial and the battery won't last long. Anyway, the zapper does a lot for me. pj __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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You have got to be kidding! That is my standard method of validating a 9 V battery. Everyone I know does it. Me too - for 30 years. Man, I feel good! C -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Roger, On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 04:53:06 EST, rogalt...@aol.com wrote: Dean: Have you, or anyone you know about built a Rife machine? Roger I haven't built one, but there are a few places on the WWW describing them -- with instructions on how to build one. The one I recall uses a modified CB transceiver with modified ham radio amplifier and modified ham antenna tuner feeding the plasma tube (specially made). A computer is hooked to the CB transceiver to provide the pulses needed. Bruce Stenulson's site (http://shell.amigo.net/~stenulson/althealth/index.html ) has a variation of the Rife machine that provides DC instead of radio pulses into a plasma tube. Of course, it hasn't been tested to the extent of Rife's original machine. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have a manual that tells how to make a Rife device out of a CB radio. Have yet to do it though. Ken At 04:53 AM 3/24/01 EST, you wrote: In a message dated 3/24/01 3:27:55 AM EST, dtmil...@midiowa.net writes: Rife's device -- the granddaddy of health electronics -- doesn't use electrodes that connect to your body. It generates a radio signal that produces pulses in your body, similar to the zapper. The advantages of the Rife device is that 1) there is no body contact, and many people are affected at the same time and 2) doesn't have the disadvantages of either the zapper or Beck device. It does have the disadvantage of disrupting TV and radio signals anywhere near the device (within hundreds of feet to miles, depending on conditions). The cost of the zapper parts is under $20, while parts for a Beck device is in the $40 - $60 range. The Rife device costs hundreds of $$ for parts. Dean: Have you, or anyone you know about built a Rife machine? Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Alvin Rose wrote: Hi Dean and Roger if you want to build a rife machine..you do not have to use a CB and linear amplifier..This was the Bare/Rife method which is expensive...It is necessary to buy a plasma tube for an emem3 but you can build the rest from local parts 1986 to 95 Buick Ignition coil and a Darlington transistor to drive it..I built one a few weeks ago and am having great success with it..you can even use your computer and build one for $99. plus the phanotron tube ...see below also plans for stand alone emem3. http://www.cicbs.com/rife/99buck.html http://www.royalrife.com/emem2.html The Rife Machines are getting amazing results too. Need more information let me know. I've been to the cicbs site a number of times but think it's beyond my capabilities to build one even for only 99 dollars. :( Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Dean and Roger if you want to build a rife machine..you do not have to use a CB and linear amplifier..This was the Bare/Rife method which is expensive...It is necessary to buy a plasma tube for an emem3 but you can build the rest from local parts 1986 to 95 Buick Ignition coil and a Darlington transistor to drive it..I built one a few weeks ago and am having great success with it..you can even use your computer and build one for $99. plus the phanotron tube ...see below also plans for stand alone emem3. http://www.cicbs.com/rife/99buck.html http://www.royalrife.com/emem2.html The Rife Machines are getting amazing results too. Need more information let me know. Alvin -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Ishak, On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:50:37 +0800, Ishak isha...@indo.net.id wrote: What is this zapper thing. Where can I get hold of one or schematics to build one, or urls to learn more about and acquire one. Hulda Clark's zapper is a very low power, audio frequency pulse generator that is connected to the body through two electrodes, usually placed on opposite sides of the body (through holding the electrodes in your hands or placing your feet on the electrodes). The pulses are intended to vibrate to death the pathogens in your body -- bacteria, viruses, funguses and small worms.. Other devices that use electricity to achieve health effects are electro-acupunture, the Beck blood electrifier and the Rife machine. The Beck device is apparently intended to produce an electric charge on blood particles by placing two electrodes on your skin over a major artery or vein. The electrified blood will be inhospitable to pathogens and flow through your body killing them or not letting them reproduce. Colloidal silver and the Beck device are limited in their effectiveness to place that have good blood supply in the body. The zapper isn't restricted to locations that have good blood supply, but it isn't effective inside certain organs that are completely enclosed. Rife's device -- the granddaddy of health electronics -- doesn't use electrodes that connect to your body. It generates a radio signal that produces pulses in your body, similar to the zapper. The advantages of the Rife device is that 1) there is no body contact, and many people are affected at the same time and 2) doesn't have the disadvantages of either the zapper or Beck device. It does have the disadvantage of disrupting TV and radio signals anywhere near the device (within hundreds of feet to miles, depending on conditions). The cost of the zapper parts is under $20, while parts for a Beck device is in the $40 - $60 range. The Rife device costs hundreds of $$ for parts. Instructions for building a zapper can be found at: http://www.hollynearby.com/zapper.html A really good site for zapper info is Bruce Stenulson's site at: http://shell.amigo.net/~stenulson/althealth/index.html Good luck!! -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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In a message dated 3/24/01 3:27:55 AM EST, dtmil...@midiowa.net writes: Rife's device -- the granddaddy of health electronics -- doesn't use electrodes that connect to your body. It generates a radio signal that produces pulses in your body, similar to the zapper. The advantages of the Rife device is that 1) there is no body contact, and many people are affected at the same time and 2) doesn't have the disadvantages of either the zapper or Beck device. It does have the disadvantage of disrupting TV and radio signals anywhere near the device (within hundreds of feet to miles, depending on conditions). The cost of the zapper parts is under $20, while parts for a Beck device is in the $40 - $60 range. The Rife device costs hundreds of $$ for parts. Dean: Have you, or anyone you know about built a Rife machine? Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Roger. I haven't built any but I've helped to maintain some Rife/Bare devices. This consists of a signal generator driving a CB radio which feeds into a tuner and then into a linear amp using an argon tube as an antenna. Thus the frequency from the generator is emitted by the tube. Tony rogalt...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 3/24/01 3:27:55 AM EST, dtmil...@midiowa.net writes: Rife's device -- the granddaddy of health electronics -- doesn't use electrodes that connect to your body. It generates a radio signal that produces pulses in your body, similar to the zapper. The advantages of the Rife device is that 1) there is no body contact, and many people are affected at the same time and 2) doesn't have the disadvantages of either the zapper or Beck device. It does have the disadvantage of disrupting TV and radio signals anywhere near the device (within hundreds of feet to miles, depending on conditions). The cost of the zapper parts is under $20, while parts for a Beck device is in the $40 - $60 range. The Rife device costs hundreds of $$ for parts. Dean: Have you, or anyone you know about built a Rife machine? Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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HI Tony I will ask him on Thursday (my next appointment), for you. Regards Tracy. - Original Message - From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 23 March 2001 18:20 Subject: Re: CSzappers Hi Tracy, I would really like to know where your Dr got his information about the Zapper overstimulating the immune system. If it is valid info I would like to include it in my protocol. I know that a small percentage of people can have a strong detox reaction to the zapper. So the precaution, if the person is sensitive or very ill, is to start with short sessions , say 1 minute and gradually increase. Also it is so important to drink plenty of water throughout the day to flush out waste products. Tony Nick Grant wrote: Hi again Just looking for comments from those of you who have used zappers. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:24:11 +1200, Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz wrote: I asked him about the zapper, since his machine was similar, and he was not in favour of them. He said it was because the range of frequencies that it delivers to all the accupressure points in the hands, this in turn disrupts the immune system. Sort of overstimulates it. I hope I am explaining it o.k. Anyway, it said it wasn't good for the immune system to be stimulated in that way. What do you all think? What kind of tests did he make? I'll even accept anecdotal comments. :) After using a zapper on and off for 5 (or so) years, I've noticed that my immune system has greatly improved. I'm not saying the zapper has done that directly, but it sure has controlled the problem that was knocking down my immune system. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I built the Clark zapper and I can't tell what it is doing. I measured the output, with a fresh 9 v. battery, to be about 4.50 v. The only thing I'm sure of is the little light comes on. :-) I have not been to a doctor. Go to www.nite.org and become enlighten about INCOME TAXES. - Original Message - From: Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:24 PM Subject: CSzappers Hi again Just looking for comments from those of you who have used zappers. I went to a doctor yesterday for treatment as I have systemic candida. He had a machine, not unlike a zapper, in that you held copper pipes, and it ran off a 9 volt battery. It was attached to a computer which gave him readings, and he used accupressure/accupuncture points. I asked him about the zapper, since his machine was similar, and he was not in favour of them. He said it was because the range of frequencies that it delivers to all the accupressure points in the hands, this in turn disrupts the immune system. Sort of overstimulates it. I hope I am explaining it o.k. Anyway, it said it wasn't good for the immune system to be stimulated in that way. What do you all think? Tracy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi, What is this zapper thing. Where can I get hold of one or schematics to build one, or urls to learn more about and acquire one. Thanks Ishak After using a zapper on and off for 5 (or so) years, I've noticed that my immune system has greatly improved. I'm not saying the zapper has done that directly, but it sure has controlled the problem that was knocking down my immune system. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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i intend to buy a machine of this kind for health purposes/experimentation. i can't decide which type of machine would be best for overall health; for the money. there is the clark zapper, the beck/ rife machine, the enhancer, etc. all the web sites say their machine is the best and each one i look into sounds better than the last. anyone have an opinion about which would best to try? i know nothing about electricity, except to respect it, so i would be most comfortable purchasing something already constructed. i respect the great wealth of experience and knowledge on this list. thanks in advance, julie m. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Sounds like he used the hand holds to measure the frequencies you give out, and then used something else to stimulate the acupressure points? This is completely different treatment to zapping, the aim of which is to affect the pathogens directly. Ivan. - Original Message - From: Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 23 March 2001 15:24 Subject: CSzappers Hi again Just looking for comments from those of you who have used zappers. I went to a doctor yesterday for treatment as I have systemic candida. He had a machine, not unlike a zapper, in that you held copper pipes, and it ran off a 9 volt battery. It was attached to a computer which gave him readings, and he used accupressure/accupuncture points. I asked him about the zapper, since his machine was similar, and he was not in favour of them. He said it was because the range of frequencies that it delivers to all the accupressure points in the hands, this in turn disrupts the immune system. Sort of overstimulates it. I hope I am explaining it o.k. Anyway, it said it wasn't good for the immune system to be stimulated in that way. What do you all think? Tracy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 08/03/2001 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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The simplest and probably the most generally effective is the Becks...Jaguar makes one similar but reportedly better. I own a Becks from Sota instruments. The schematics and parts list are free and found at www.explorepub.com/articles/beck/hiv_images apparently uses about $40 in parts and Beck is adamant he is giving the info free. I have a 1997 tape that says so, OK? I use it and figure it works as it says, electrocuting practically any bloodstream infection with about 100 ma of current. The frequency is irrelevant in this method. The thing 'pulses at about 10 or 12 per second, just fast enough that I can't count it, changing polarity (the brochure says) 4 times/second. I have no clue why they bother with changing polarity. The Royal Rife plasma frequency devices which can be used for roomfuls of people simultaneously, apparently use only about 300 to 400 dollars of 'parts' but cost thousands. Goto www.ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/healthbal/emem2.jpg for schematics. Following, it leads to the schematic for the 555 timing board,too. Goto www.mindspring.com/~turf/alt/elec/cfl.htm for frequencies. Mathematically, why it works at certain specific frequencies for specific organisms, based upon the dna helixes, go to www.gewo.cz/health/charl_boehm_e.htm - Original Message - From: Ishak isha...@indo.net.id To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 4:50 AM Subject: Re: CSzappers Hi, What is this zapper thing. Where can I get hold of one or schematics to build one, or urls to learn more about and acquire one. Thanks Ishak After using a zapper on and off for 5 (or so) years, I've noticed that my immune system has greatly improved. I'm not saying the zapper has done that directly, but it sure has controlled the problem that was knocking down my immune system. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi, I like the blood electifier, because it is low frequency, 4 Hz. It is almost as slow as D.C. Dr. Beck, on the Granada Forum Video, tells us that this unit kills the aids vius, 95% of cancers, and parasites. The circuit includes a colloidal silver maker. Here are the plans, plus circuit diagram. http://www.sharinghealth.com/beckprotocol/buildyourown.html I always use an ic socket, when replacing a chip, or building something. If the chip is bad, or goes bad, you can easily replace it, and it saves heat damage etc. It is hard to unsolder an integated circuit. Lenny Ishak wrote: Hi, What is this zapper thing. Where can I get hold of one or schematics to build one, or urls to learn more about and acquire one. Thanks Ishak After using a zapper on and off for 5 (or so) years, I've noticed that my immune system has greatly improved. I'm not saying the zapper has done that directly, but it sure has controlled the problem that was knocking down my immune system. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have owned a Beck's Silver pulser from Sota Instruments for a couple of years. The concept is simple electrolution of all the bloodstream organisms at 100 milliamps in vivo, plus you make CS with it. Parts would cost about 40 bucks if you were into electronics. Plans are freely given (not by Sota...they are into selling their units at about $200). Some say the Jaguar one is better and cheaper. Many say that the Clarkes does not do quite what it is supposed to even in the organism specific sense where with the Becks or Jaguar there,s no need to know the germ(s) name(s). Interestingly, prety much right across the board, thereb seems to be a pretty constant recommendation to use CS as well.Del - Original Message - From: julie m wolfp...@digitex.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 6:28 AM Subject: Re: CSzappers i intend to buy a machine of this kind for health purposes/experimentation. i can't decide which type of machine would be best for overall health; for the money. there is the clark zapper, the beck/ rife machine, the enhancer, etc. all the web sites say their machine is the best and each one i look into sounds better than the last. anyone have an opinion about which would best to try? i know nothing about electricity, except to respect it, so i would be most comfortable purchasing something already constructed. i respect the great wealth of experience and knowledge on this list. thanks in advance, julie m. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hello Del, Friday, March 23, 2001, 10:43:23 AM, you wrote: DoEC I have owned a Beck's Silver pulser from Sota Instruments for a couple of DoEC years. The concept is simple electrolution of all the bloodstream organisms DoEC at 100 milliamps in vivo, plus you make CS with it. Parts would cost about DoEC 40 bucks if you were into electronics. Plans are freely given (not by DoEC Sota...they are into selling their units at about $200). Some say the DoEC Jaguar one is better and cheaper. Many say that the Clarkes does not do DoEC quite what it is supposed to even in the organism specific sense where with DoEC the Becks or Jaguar there,s no need to know the germ(s) name(s). DoEC Interestingly, prety much right across the board, thereb seems to be a DoEC pretty constant recommendation to use CS as well.Del DoEC - Original Message - DoEC From: julie m wolfp...@digitex.net DoEC To: silver-list@eskimo.com DoEC Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 6:28 AM Subject: Re: CSzappers i intend to buy a machine of this kind for health DoEC purposes/experimentation. i can't decide which type of machine would be best for overall health; for the money. there is the clark zapper, the beck/ rife machine, the DoEC enhancer, etc. all the web sites say their machine is the best and each one i look into sounds better than the last. anyone have an opinion about which would best to try? i know nothing about electricity, except to respect it, so i would be most comfortable purchasing something already constructed. i respect the great wealth of experience and knowledge on this list. thanks in advance, julie m. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Actually, it is NOT 100 milliamps, but 100 MICROAMPS. -- Best regards, Solarmailto:so...@neo.rr.com
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Here is a link with a good explanation of the differences between Zappers and Beck Blood Purifier's http://www.toolsforhealing.com/products/Product_differences.htm Do You Know the Differences Between a Magnetic Pulse Generator,a Zapper, and a Beck Blood Purifier? Dotsie by Dennis Harwood The Hulda Clark Zapper is a small electronic device that uses two copper handholds to deliver an electrical current of approximately 7 to 8 volts to the body. This current produces a square wave with a frequency of about 30KHz (Kilohertz). There are some units that have frequencies as low as 2KHz to 5KHz and some that even have a variable frequency. The lower frequencies are supposed to make it easier for the current to penetrate into the body and be more effective. Regardless of the frequency used, all of the Clark Zappers work on the same principle of a DC current with a square wave applied to the body through the handholds. These handholds can be placed on any part of the body desired, not just held in each hand. As a matter of fact, it is recommended that you routinely switch the position of the handholds to different parts of the body to promote penetration of the current to all areas and extremities.The Bob Beck Blood Purifier (Silver Pulser) is also an electronic device that uses two small electrodes that are placed over major blood supply arteries or veins on the wrists or ankles. It produces a small micro-current in the blood stream as the blood circulates past the electrodes. It uses a higher voltage, typically about 27 volts, but a much lower frequency than the Zapper.The Magnetic Pulse Generator does not use electrical currents, but instead uses a high intensity, short duration magnetic pulse of approximately 21 Kilogauss as its means of killing or immobilizing parasites. The unit consists of a small box which holds the electronics and a round coil attached by a cord. It is the coil which produces the pulse every 5-8 seconds. The coil can be placed anywhere on the body, including the head and face. The ability to place the coil anywhere means that areas not covered by the Zapper or the Black Box/Blood Purifier are easily treated, including the Lymph system, stomach, head, and intestines.All three devices are attempting to do the same thing, i.e. to use either small electrical currents or high intensity magnetic pulses applied to various areas of the body to kill living organisms that are in your body that shouldn't be there. This includes organisms such as: viruses, bacteria, mold, fungi, and parasites, which includes such nasties as tapeworms, ringworms, roundworms, flukes, HIV, Flu bugs, etc. I'll be using the term parasite from here on to mean any and all of the previously mentioned organisms. So please keep that in mind while reading the remaining text.The number of microscopic and non-microscopic invaders that are in the human body on a regular basis is truly astounding! What's even more astounding, though, is the fact that the medical establishment seems to be completely oblivious to their presence. The damage they do, however, is very real and is a major source of suffering for an almost completely unsuspecting public. The World Health Organization and other knowledgeable health groups around the world have stated that parasite infestation is the number one health problem in the world. Yet your friendly, local doctor is unaware for the most part. Or it may be that he is simply unwilling to waste time trying to convince people of the problem. In the United States we, as a people, seem to believe that parasites are only problems for poor people from some third world country. We are too clean and civilized to ever have parasite problems. Think again! Read the article In any event, to get back to the task at hand: How do these devices differ and do you need to use all three of them? In short, they are different in major ways and, Yes, you do need to use them all to be more effective in eliminating parasites of all types. The Zapper kills by passing an electrical current through the body. Electricity travels on the surface of muscle tissue and will not penetrate the body like radio waves or x-rays do. Therefore, there are large areas of the body that the current cannot reach, making it ineffective in eliminating parasites in those locations. Areas such as the contents of your stomach and your intestines, your sinus cavities, parasites inside gallstones in your gallbladder and/or liver, and the blood stream and lymph tend to be impervious to the Zapper. Unfortunately, large numbers of parasites live in all of those areas. So you need different devices to reach different areas.The Bob Beck Blood Purifier differs from the Zapper in that it's sole intention is to clean the blood stream by immobilizing the parasites found there by means of a small micro-current applied directly to a blood vein or artery. It takes
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Thanks everyone for your responses. Now, I have something to start on... Ishak -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi again Just looking for comments from those of you who have used zappers. I went to a doctor yesterday for treatment as I have systemic candida. He had a machine, not unlike a zapper, in that you held copper pipes, and it ran off a 9 volt battery. It was attached to a computer which gave him readings, and he used accupressure/accupuncture points. I asked him about the zapper, since his machine was similar, and he was not in favour of them. He said it was because the range of frequencies that it delivers to all the accupressure points in the hands, this in turn disrupts the immune system. Sort of overstimulates it. I hope I am explaining it o.k. Anyway, it said it wasn't good for the immune system to be stimulated in that way. What do you all think? Tracy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Tracy, I would really like to know where your Dr got his information about the Zapper overstimulating the immune system. If it is valid info I would like to include it in my protocol. I know that a small percentage of people can have a strong detox reaction to the zapper. So the precaution, if the person is sensitive or very ill, is to start with short sessions , say 1 minute and gradually increase. Also it is so important to drink plenty of water throughout the day to flush out waste products. Tony Nick Grant wrote: Hi again Just looking for comments from those of you who have used zappers. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ducan, what is your web site address? Thanks, Frank in Far South Texas
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Thanks, Dean-- Now that I have a definitive explanation, two related questions pester me: What happened to all those Rife freq's, and has anyone compared this kind of zapper's effectiveness to straight DC? --Russ Hi Russ, On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:14:50 -0600, russ e rosser russros...@juno.com wrote: Dean, can you delineate the output specs (or cite a url that lists them)? Is it sq. wave DC pulses? What V, freq? The zapper produces square wave DC pulses with roughly a 50% duty cycle. Clark's original design called for a 9 volt battery power supply, which produced pulses having about a 5 to 7 volt peak, and a frequency of 30 kHz. Current designs, which are deemed more effective by many people (including me) use a 12 to 15 volt power supply (car battery voltage -- nominally 13.5 volts) with pulse peak voltage at about 10 to 12 volts. These designs also use a lower frequency, with some at about 11 kHz, while others use 3 kHz or even 1 kHz. My current zapper varies the frequency from about 1 kHz to about 3 kHz every 2 seconds. (I added that on 3 days ago, and haven't taken the time to tweak the circuit so it isn't the frequency range I really want, which is 1 to 10 khz.) Most zappers use a resistor in series with the wands to limit the output current to roughly 1 to 4 mA. This limiting, of course, will round off the leading edge of the square wave, which reduces the power available in the higher harmonics (that's why I wanted the frequency sweep -- to hit a wider range of kill frequencies with adequate power). The rise time of the square wave should be as fast as possible, but if a 555 timer IC is used, there's no worry on that point. Several commercial zappers highlight the fact that their zappers don't use much power, and a 9-volt battery can last a long time. IMO, that's getting the zapper idea backwards. In order to use little power from a battery, you have to design the circuit to: 1) put little power into the wands and 2) make the rise time of the square wave very slow, rounding off the pulse too much, making the zapper ineffective. I have two store bought zappers like that -- and they had no effect on my sinus situation. 7 on - 20 off...is that seconds? No, minutes. Clark's protocol is: Hold the wands in your hands for 7 minutes, Wait 20-30 minutes, Hold 7 minutes, Wait 20-30 minutes, Hold 7 minutes. The reason for the repeats is that larger parasites have smaller parasites within them. So microscopic worms have bacteria that prey on them, and killing the worms will release the bacteria. In turn, bacteria have viruses in them which get released. This has been reported by Rife, Clark, Naessens and others (and mention has been made of E. Coli bacteria having an E. Coli virus). -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Nick Grant wrote: Can anyone please tell me if they have a zapper, found it useful, what works, and doesn't work and how they use it on themselves. Ta. Tracy. Our family has a zapper and uses it from time to time. However since CS is also used I cannot say for sure that the zapper is doing anything. But I can report the following. The first time we used the zapper, we felt really tires, and experienced some herx. When used the next day, this was not experienced. So either it was killing stuff, or the body got use to it. But I find it difficult to believe that the body would become use to it after just one use. My sister had lyme disease and the doctors were unable to cure it. CS got rid of about 80% of the symptoms, but she still could not get rid of it entirely, ie. her lymph glands were continually swollen. So she used the zapper and magnetic pulser along with the CS, and in 2 weeks was cured. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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In a message dated 11/18/2000 22:50:26 Central Standard Time, dtmil...@midiowa.net writes: I have a zapper (several, actually). I've found it useful (it's the only thing that's cleared up my chronic, debilitating, sinus condition). Are you talking about Dr. Clark's zapper used to rid the bloodstream of parasites, or is this another kind of zapper? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Russ, On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 02:13:34 -0600, russ e rosser russros...@juno.com wrote: Now that I have a definitive explanation, two related questions pester me: What happened to all those Rife freq's, Rife and Clark found differenct frequency ranges that kill parasites. I don't personally have the time to duplicate either of their work, but have read that both sets of frequencies apparently do the job. and has anyone compared this kind of zapper's effectiveness to straight DC? Although I've worked with DC all my life, I've never intentionally connected myself to a DC source for more than a few seconds. :) I have found that zappers having a poor shape for the square wave are ineffective for my problem, and you could say that they are in between a good zapper and DC. Extrapolating, DC would also be ineffective *for my problem.* -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi MamaBear, On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:58:17 EST, mama2b...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/18/2000 22:50:26 Central Standard Time, dtmil...@midiowa.net writes: I have a zapper (several, actually). I've found it useful (it's the only thing that's cleared up my chronic, debilitating, sinus condition). Are you talking about Dr. Clark's zapper used to rid the bloodstream of parasites, or is this another kind of zapper? Dr. Clark's zapper is NOT used to rid the bloodstream of parasites. That's what's claimed for Beck's blood electrifier. Dr. Clark's zapper produces direct-current pulses that make a quickly varying electric field inside the body in an effort to vibrate parasites enough so they are disrupted. The parasites don't have to be in the blood to be killed. Beck's blood electrifier produces an small direct current through the body -- supposedly through the blood -- that is apparently intended to electrically charge particles in the blood. The effect seems to disable parasites -- that is, they either can't reproduce or can't eat. The description of what Beck's device does seems awfully similar to the effects produced by CS. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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That's precisely what I don't assume: A. Einstein U. affirmed that ALL monocellular pathogens (beginning with HIV) were killed by a few uA of *LVDC*. Owing to the simplicity and universal availability of LVDC, I think it's in humanity's best interest to examine the notion. If your problem is requires periodic, preventive maintenence, it might present an opportunity for comparative experimentation. I know for a fact that a few minutes of 12VDC completely dispatched my my irreversible pulitis, which should have required antibiotics, pain killers and an immediate ($$$) root canal...but the problem hasn't been recurred, so I can't compare a Clark zappers' efficacy. I also can't imagine anything working better. Perhaps high freq pulsation has a broader area of effect--like a broadcasting tower--than DC, which probably travels more directly between the wands (which is why I suggest moving them slowly constantly). Clark zapping might therefore reach the sinuses better. But again, Einstein U. reported that the two contiguous electrodes had killed ALL the HIV in the petri dish...Brownian movement? field effect? Empirical tests are what we need! --Russ On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:19:42 GMT dtmil...@midiowa.net (Dean T. Miller) writes: Hi Russ, On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 02:13:34 -0600, russ e rosser russros...@juno.com wrote: Now that I have a definitive explanation, two related questions pester me: What happened to all those Rife freq's, Rife and Clark found differenct frequency ranges that kill parasites. I don't personally have the time to duplicate either of their work, but have read that both sets of frequencies apparently do the job. and has anyone compared this kind of zapper's effectiveness to straight DC? Although I've worked with DC all my life, I've never intentionally connected myself to a DC source for more than a few seconds. :) I have found that zappers having a poor shape for the square wave are ineffective for my problem, and you could say that they are in between a good zapper and DC. Extrapolating, DC would also be ineffective *for my problem.* -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I too have been part of the problem and in the future will stick a little more closely to CS. Occassionally, I have to take a day off from the list and when I return, there can be upwards of 60-70-80 messages to glean through. I read them all and its time consuming. Not to say that the information gleaned isn't worth the time and trouble, but a few minutes saved can be applied elsewhere. Its all a matter of perspective, I guess ... as illustrated by the following: Robert The airliner from Polish Airways was preparing to land at O'Hare Field. The pilot radioed the control tower that he thought the runway was too short to land on. The tower radioed back that it was more than long enough. In a few minutes the pilot again radioed about the runway length, only to receive the same reply. On final approach, the pilot radioed again that he thought the runway was too short, only to receive an exasperated reply that the runway was long enough and to go ahead and land. Sure enough, the plane touched down and ran into the passenger terminal, resulting in major damage. After the plane came to a halt, the pilot turned to the co-pilot and said, See? I told them the runway was too short. To which the co-pilot replied, Yeah, but did you see how wide that sucker was? - Original Message - From: V. Richter cvin...@ala.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 3:18 PM Subject: Re: CSzappers snip Duncan has a good point. This discussion of zappers and Hulda Clark is definately off topic. I'll make a motion we stick more closely to CS. I've been part of the problem. Vince Richter -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Dean, I have a zapper on order and don't understand something. Maybe you or anyone else can comment on it. I've read several of the internet sites which promote H. Clarks and other types of zappers, but I don't have a feel for the extent of parrallel current paths they can take. For instance, the usual protocol is holding the two opposite polarity leads in your hands. Does this send currnet as low as your colon to kill unwanteds there, in the bladder, liver, kidneys, etc. or is there other methods of application that one needs to use for different specific areas of the body? (That sounded like a good idea to contact your cheeks with the back of your hands while holding the electrodes. I'll try that since I have some problems with sinuses too). Thanks for any insight from current or previous zapper users. Vince Richter - Original Message - From: Dean T. Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 10:49 PM Subject: Re: CSzappers Hi Tracy, On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:56:17 +1300, Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz wrote: Can anyone please tell me if they have a zapper, found it useful, what works, and doesn't work and how they use it on themselves. I have a zapper (several, actually). I've found it useful (it's the only thing that's cleared up my chronic, debilitating, sinus condition). I'm not sure what you mean by what works, and doesn't work. I use it by holding onto the two wands with my hands. Most of the time I also rest the back of my hands (which are holding the wands) against my cheekbones. This increases the amount of current from the zapper, and apparently the current's going through my head, and especially my sinus area. I try to use it 7-on, 20-off, 7-on, 20-off, 7-on. But sometimes (too many times) I'll just do the first 7-on. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Nick; If it's any help, Prof Noel Campbell of Australia recently beat 4 for 4 advanced prostate cancers with the patients sitting on a zapper plate (holding the other electrode) and ozone treatments (a tube directly stopped by the perineum). www.egroups.com/group/oxyplus. You could do a search... Of course there's a chance that either one alone may have done it but who cares about those details - ciao Duncan - Original Message - From: Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 7:56 PM Subject: CSzappers | Can anyone please tell me if they have a zapper, found it useful, what | works, and doesn't work and how they use it on themselves. | | Ta. | | Tracy. | | | -- | The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. | | To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: | silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com | with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. | | To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com | Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html | List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com |
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Dean, can you delineate the output specs (or cite a url that lists them)? Is it sq. wave DC pulses? What V, freq? 7 on - 20 off...is that seconds? Your sinunitis testimony alone ought to arrest any objective sketpicism. Tx. --Russ On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 04:49:21 GMT dtmil...@midiowa.net (Dean T. Miller) writes: Hi Tracy, On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:56:17 +1300, Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz wrote: Can anyone please tell me if they have a zapper, found it useful, what works, and doesn't work and how they use it on themselves. I have a zapper (several, actually). I've found it useful (it's the only thing that's cleared up my chronic, debilitating, sinus condition). I'm not sure what you mean by what works, and doesn't work. I use it by holding onto the two wands with my hands. Most of the time I also rest the back of my hands (which are holding the wands) against my cheekbones. This increases the amount of current from the zapper, and apparently the current's going through my head, and especially my sinus area. I try to use it 7-on, 20-off, 7-on, 20-off, 7-on. But sometimes (too many times) I'll just do the first 7-on. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Vince, On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 04:57:00 -0600, V. Richter cvin...@ala.net wrote: I have a zapper on order and don't understand something. Maybe you or anyone else can comment on it. I've read several of the internet sites which promote H. Clarks and other types of zappers, but I don't have a feel for the extent of parrallel current paths they can take. For instance, the usual protocol is holding the two opposite polarity leads in your hands. Does this send currnet as low as your colon to kill unwanteds there, in the bladder, liver, kidneys, etc. or is there other methods of application that one needs to use for different specific areas of the body? (That sounded like a good idea to contact your cheeks with the back of your hands while holding the electrodes. I'll try that since I have some problems with sinuses too). I haven't tried the Zapper with foot pads, which is one way people have reported using it. I imagine (I haven't measured it) that foot pads would put more current through the lower parts of the body. You could also use thigh pads, where you place a flat copper pad under each thigh as you use your computer. :) Of course, the copper pads should be covered by a wet cotton cloth (handkerchief). I wet the cotton coverings for the wands with CS (the cotton coverings are infant socks, from Wal-Mart). -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks Dean, I guess with a little ingenuity the probe could be modified to attach to both hands and feet at the same time (one lead on one side of the body and one on the other. This should get all the body from the neck down anyway. Duncan has a good point. This discussion of zappers and Hulda Clark is definately off topic. I'll make a motion we stick more closely to CS. I've been part of the problem. Vince Richter - Original Message - From: Dean T. Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 1:39 PM Subject: Re: CSzappers Hi Vince, On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 04:57:00 -0600, V. Richter cvin...@ala.net wrote: I have a zapper on order and don't understand something. Maybe you or anyone else can comment on it. I've read several of the internet sites which promote H. Clarks and other types of zappers, but I don't have a feel for the extent of parrallel current paths they can take. For instance, the usual protocol is holding the two opposite polarity leads in your hands. Does this send currnet as low as your colon to kill unwanteds there, in the bladder, liver, kidneys, etc. or is there other methods of application that one needs to use for different specific areas of the body? (That sounded like a good idea to contact your cheeks with the back of your hands while holding the electrodes. I'll try that since I have some problems with sinuses too). I haven't tried the Zapper with foot pads, which is one way people have reported using it. I imagine (I haven't measured it) that foot pads would put more current through the lower parts of the body. You could also use thigh pads, where you place a flat copper pad under each thigh as you use your computer. :) Of course, the copper pads should be covered by a wet cotton cloth (handkerchief). I wet the cotton coverings for the wands with CS (the cotton coverings are infant socks, from Wal-Mart). -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Russ, On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:14:50 -0600, russ e rosser russros...@juno.com wrote: Dean, can you delineate the output specs (or cite a url that lists them)? Is it sq. wave DC pulses? What V, freq? The zapper produces square wave DC pulses with roughly a 50% duty cycle. Clark's original design called for a 9 volt battery power supply, which produced pulses having about a 5 to 7 volt peak, and a frequency of 30 kHz. Current designs, which are deemed more effective by many people (including me) use a 12 to 15 volt power supply (car battery voltage -- nominally 13.5 volts) with pulse peak voltage at about 10 to 12 volts. These designs also use a lower frequency, with some at about 11 kHz, while others use 3 kHz or even 1 kHz. My current zapper varies the frequency from about 1 kHz to about 3 kHz every 2 seconds. (I added that on 3 days ago, and haven't taken the time to tweak the circuit so it isn't the frequency range I really want, which is 1 to 10 khz.) Most zappers use a resistor in series with the wands to limit the output current to roughly 1 to 4 mA. This limiting, of course, will round off the leading edge of the square wave, which reduces the power available in the higher harmonics (that's why I wanted the frequency sweep -- to hit a wider range of kill frequencies with adequate power). The rise time of the square wave should be as fast as possible, but if a 555 timer IC is used, there's no worry on that point. Several commercial zappers highlight the fact that their zappers don't use much power, and a 9-volt battery can last a long time. IMO, that's getting the zapper idea backwards. In order to use little power from a battery, you have to design the circuit to: 1) put little power into the wands and 2) make the rise time of the square wave very slow, rounding off the pulse too much, making the zapper ineffective. I have two store bought zappers like that -- and they had no effect on my sinus situation. 7 on - 20 off...is that seconds? No, minutes. Clark's protocol is: Hold the wands in your hands for 7 minutes, Wait 20-30 minutes, Hold 7 minutes, Wait 20-30 minutes, Hold 7 minutes. The reason for the repeats is that larger parasites have smaller parasites within them. So microscopic worms have bacteria that prey on them, and killing the worms will release the bacteria. In turn, bacteria have viruses in them which get released. This has been reported by Rife, Clark, Naessens and others (and mention has been made of E. Coli bacteria having an E. Coli virus). -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Dean; | Current designs, which are deemed more effective by many people | (including me) use a 12 to 15 volt power supply (car battery voltage | -- nominally 13.5 volts) with pulse peak voltage at about 10 to 12 | volts. These designs also use a lower frequency, with some at about | 11 kHz, while others use 3 kHz or even 1 kHz. My current zapper | varies the frequency from about 1 kHz to about 3 kHz every 2 seconds. | (I added that on 3 days ago, and haven't taken the time to tweak the | circuit so it isn't the frequency range I really want, which is 1 to | 10 khz.) Try the brain/earth freq +- 6 theta to 18 active healing, like an alphastim. We're converging on the earth freqs and brain freqs because they have added benefits. | | Most zappers use a resistor in series with the wands to limit the | output current to roughly 1 to 4 mA. This limiting, of course, will | round off the leading edge of the square wave, which reduces the power | available in the higher harmonics (that's why I wanted the frequency | sweep -- to hit a wider range of kill frequencies with adequate | power). Converging to a Rife hybrid? sounds gd. | Several commercial zappers highlight the fact that their zappers don't | use much power, and a 9-volt battery can last a long time. IMO, | that's getting the zapper idea backwards. I'd agree for sure. | The reason for the repeats is that larger parasites have smaller | parasites within them. So microscopic worms have bacteria that prey | on them, and killing the worms will release the bacteria. In turn, | bacteria have viruses in them which get released. This has been | reported by Rife, Clark, Naessens and others (and mention has been | made of E. Coli bacteria having an E. Coli virus But not in all cases would the inside virii be a problem necessarily. It's good to dump them anyway. You don't even need an accurate diagnosis for electromedicine to work. ciao Duncan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Duncan, On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 21:13:11 -0800, Duncan Crow duncanc...@yahoo.com wrote: Try the brain/earth freq +- 6 theta to 18 active healing, like an alphastim. We're converging on the earth freqs and brain freqs because they have added benefits. The likelihood of a base frequency of 6 to 18 Hz having enough power at either Rife's or Clark's kill frequencies is rather low. The purpose of the Zapper (or Rife's device) isn't to entrain the brain, but to kill parasites. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Can anyone please tell me if they have a zapper, found it useful, what works, and doesn't work and how they use it on themselves. Ta. Tracy. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Tracy, On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:56:17 +1300, Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz wrote: Can anyone please tell me if they have a zapper, found it useful, what works, and doesn't work and how they use it on themselves. I have a zapper (several, actually). I've found it useful (it's the only thing that's cleared up my chronic, debilitating, sinus condition). I'm not sure what you mean by what works, and doesn't work. I use it by holding onto the two wands with my hands. Most of the time I also rest the back of my hands (which are holding the wands) against my cheekbones. This increases the amount of current from the zapper, and apparently the current's going through my head, and especially my sinus area. I try to use it 7-on, 20-off, 7-on, 20-off, 7-on. But sometimes (too many times) I'll just do the first 7-on. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Kim, The best 'zappers' available (IMO) can be found here. http://www.annexmfg.com/ These are very professional units, operating at about 13V and incorporate the 'BioWave' technology which keeps the square wave square when connected to the body. I am using this in my own zappers with the owners permission This site is owned by one of the list members who may make himself known or not. For those with a technical ability, the circuit posted by Bill Biagioli is very good, if a bit difficult to implement. If one wanted to improve the basic Clarke zapper, then using a 12V supply is the way to go...13.5V if you can, may need to ensure the 555 timer is not the CMOS type. I sent 15V through mine...boy was that a wake up call. Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ivan If I wanted to run a Clark zapper on 12 volt would I have to do something special so as not to burn anything up or ruin it or the effect in some way, or just hook it up straight into 12 volt? Thanks Nancy -Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 12:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSzappers Hi Kim, The best 'zappers' available (IMO) can be found here. http://www.annexmfg.com/ These are very professional units, operating at about 13V and incorporate the 'BioWave' technology which keeps the square wave square when connected to the body. I am using this in my own zappers with the owners permission This site is owned by one of the list members who may make himself known or not. For those with a technical ability, the circuit posted by Bill Biagioli is very good, if a bit difficult to implement. If one wanted to improve the basic Clarke zapper, then using a 12V supply is the way to go...13.5V if you can, may need to ensure the 555 timer is not the CMOS type. I sent 15V through mine...boy was that a wake up call. Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ivan and All, I sure wish I could open this site! Can the owner of this site email me privately? I was on this list last year and I trust Ivan's opinion (among others). Hi Mike! Nice to see Chuck is still here! LOL Best, Kim Hi Kim, The best 'zappers' available (IMO) can be found here. http://www.annexmfg.com/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Nancy, The most sensitive component (555 timer) is good to 15V, so it should be ok to just hook it up. Ivan. - Original Message - From: Nancy Steele nste...@theofficenet.com To: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 29 September 2000 00:26 Subject: RE: CSzappers Ivan If I wanted to run a Clark zapper on 12 volt would I have to do something special so as not to burn anything up or ruin it or the effect in some way, or just hook it up straight into 12 volt? Thanks Nancy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Kim, maybe you need to copy and paste the URL into your browser. It opens for me. http://www.annexmfg.com/ Ivan. - Original Message - From: KIM BROWN dreamcoun...@sprint.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 29 September 2000 01:13 Subject: Re: CSzappers Ivan and All, I sure wish I could open this site! Can the owner of this site email me privately? I was on this list last year and I trust Ivan's opinion (among others). Hi Mike! Nice to see Chuck is still here! LOL Best, Kim -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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It opened for me. Sometimes it's TOD (time of day, traffic load et al). Sometimes it's browser. I keep 4 on my machine, and if one has difficulty, I'll try another. IE usually works, then I go to Opera. Inegma is cute and very small. I seldom use Netscape anymore as it tends to call home and I don't care for spyware. Chuck I really hate this damned machine, I wish that they would sell it. It never does quite what I want, but only what I tell it. On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:13:53 -0400, KIM BROWN dreamcoun...@sprint.ca wrote: Ivan and All, I sure wish I could open this site! Can the owner of this site email me privately? I was on this list last year and I trust Ivan's opinion (among others). Hi Mike! Nice to see Chuck is still here! LOL Best, Kim Hi Kim, The best 'zappers' available (IMO) can be found here. http://www.annexmfg.com/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dear Wendy, It does sound like your skeleton expericenccould have been a screen memory. barb Michael Lee Finney michael.fin...@acm.org michael.fin...@computer.org -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dean wrote: Effective, to me, means it works to relieve a severe sinus situation (probably fungus infection) that I have. Dean, Application was the normal electrodes in hands, seven minute on, seven minute off, etc...? Or did you do something to localize the effect? Thanks, Mike [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Mike, On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:01:40 +, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Effective, to me, means it works to relieve a severe sinus situation (probably fungus infection) that I have. Application was the normal electrodes in hands, seven minute on, seven minute off, etc...? Or did you do something to localize the effect? Well, sorta. I first tried some small, flat copper wands covered by thin cotton soaked in salt solution against my cheekbones, between my eye and ear on each side. For two days. Bad move. :) It worked, but I also got RF burns on my cheeks. (I noticed some sparkles in my vision when I did this -- this was with Clark's original 9-volt Zapper design.) Since that time, I hold the wands in my hands and rest my head on my fists. If I'm having a sinus pain episode, tears are flowing down my cheeks so I figure I have some conductivity. :) BTW, I was suspicious that my posture -- resting my head on my fists -- could be causing part of the effect (the way I relaxed, etc.), so I held the same posture with the Zapper turned off. There was no noticeable pressure release (nor pain relief) after 15-20 minutes -- so I turned Zapper power on and the pressure released after a few (3-7) minutes. I tried this about 10 times. (( I'm a natural-born skeptic, so I tend to disbelieve most everything someone tells me, or things I read, until I can verify them in other ways. )) -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Everyone! I have been gone for a while but I'm back and need your help. I am ready to purchase a zapper and I need recommendations on which one. Thanks, Kim (who is feeling great since she took her health into her own hands over a year ago thanks to this list!)
Re: CSZappers
-Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, 5 August 2000 0:46 Subject: CSZappers Has anyone tried using a zapper on warts? Marshall YES!..by applying the contacts directly into either side of a wart I had via stainless steel needles...took about 3 x 20 min sessions and...completely gone..no traces left at all.Mind you with this approach,one definitely knows the zapper is workingeeeow.. I have recently heard that traumatising a wart often results in the wart going away..perhaps this is the mechanism involved,yet since warts have a viral basis the zapper can really show dramatic results. petemc -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZappers
It is the unit in Hulda Clark's Cure for all Diseases. Tune it to 30 Khz, and make hand holds out of 3/4 copper pipe with end caps and covered with a wet paper towel or baby socks. Marshall marmar1...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/4/00 9:41:28 AM Central Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: Has anyone tried using a zapper on warts? OK, my curiosity has the best of me now. I've been on the list for a little over a week and keep reading so much about a zapper. I keep hoping I'll catch on without asking, but could someone please fill me in? Thanks.. Marlene ))) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com inline: zapper.gif
Re: CSZappers
Marlene, if you use google search engine, enter zapper parasites you will get a lot of info. Marshall Dudley wrote: It is the unit in Hulda Clark's Cure for all Diseases. Tune it to 30 Khz, and make hand holds out of 3/4 copper pipe with end caps and covered with a wet paper towel or baby socks. Marshall marmar1...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/4/00 9:41:28 AM Central Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: Has anyone tried using a zapper on warts? OK, my curiosity has the best of me now. I've been on the list for a little over a week and keep reading so much about a zapper. I keep hoping I'll catch on without asking, but could someone please fill me in? Thanks.. Marlene ))) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Image]
Re: CSZappers
Dear Dr, I haven't found this on myself nor on any of my friends. I would really like to get to understand what the difference is. It may give us a clue about how the healing actually works. I have seen resistance but it was resistance to all healing. I certainly agree that one should continue with daily treatments until well past the time where all symptoms have disappeared. I also often encourage listening to the body so they may take it upon themselves to stop and start their treatments according to their own body rhythms. Respectfully, Tony Alex C. Torres wrote: The suggestion that to use the zapper UNINTERRUPTED is really CRITICAL, you must not stop using it for any reason because this treatments develops a resistance to the use of electricity and frequencies, and no matter what you do if it gets interrupted the results or effectiveness are minimal if not zero due to the body get accustomed to this treatment. I compare this effect as the treatments we gave for tuberculosis. If the patient stops or skips some doses the treatment becomes non effective due to strains resistant to the treatment. We find this effect on our patients, no matter which zapper you use (High or low voltage) if stopped, no results any more. Alex Torres M.D. P.S. I know some persons that take medicines for years and never stops taking them, as the date, we cannot found any negative effects using electricity on the body, that's the reason to recommend to use it indefinitely. -Original Message- From: Bob Squires [mailto:rj...@dialnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSZappers Jeff Madore; Jeff , The problem with the dime is the concentrated surface area . We supply our Zappers with about 4 1/2 of 5/8 -7/8 OD copper tube as hand holds . These are covered with a couple of wraps of wet paper towels. I just tear one towel in half wrap it around and wet it . normal treatment time is 7-10 min on and 20 min or so off repeated three times or more a day, One session in the morning and another in the evening works fine . I personally think the zapper and the CS machine used together is the best treatment for disease there is or ever has been and that more people are cured of serious disease by this method than all of the others put together . I also think that the prescription drugs sold over the counter for huge amounts of money constitute the greatest fraud there ever has been . Your machine should be putting out from 4 1/2 to 5 dc volts . this is not representative of what is going on but just a quick easy check.. Concerning treatment those I know who have been cured of serious diseases have used the Zapper every day some twice a day and taken a quart of 5 PPM CS ,at the minimum, every day . Even those who have just come off of chemo therapy and been told there is no hope have been totally healed in five to six weeks. These treatments must be used in continued un broken fashion . After all what else is there that those who are not wealthy can afford. Best wishes for your recovery Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSZappers
Has anyone tried using a zapper on warts? Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZappers
What is the protocol? Small silver probe on each side, or probe in center and grounded in hand? Also how long and how often? Marshall Bob Squires wrote: Marshall; Yes it works . I had a young girl with one on the ball of her foot ,had had it cut out ,burned out . It always came back . It is now gone for good. Bob Marshall Dudley wrote: Has anyone tried using a zapper on warts? Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZappers
Marshall; Yes it works . I had a young girl with one on the ball of her foot ,had had it cut out ,burned out . It always came back . It is now gone for good. Bob Marshall Dudley wrote: Has anyone tried using a zapper on warts? Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZappers
Bob, can you tell exactly what zapper you used and exactly how you used it? pj Bob Squires wrote: Marshall; Yes it works . I had a young girl with one on the ball of her foot ,had had it cut out ,burned out . It always came back . It is now gone for good. Bob Marshall Dudley wrote: Has anyone tried using a zapper on warts? Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZappers
Tony, I appreciate that input!! pj Tony Moody wrote: Dear Dr, I haven't found this on myself nor on any of my friends. I would really like to get to understand what the difference is. It may give us a clue about how the healing actually works. I have seen resistance but it was resistance to all healing. I certainly agree that one should continue with daily treatments until well past the time where all symptoms have disappeared. I also often encourage listening to the body so they may take it upon themselves to stop and start their treatments according to their own body rhythms. Respectfully, Tony Alex C. Torres wrote: The suggestion that to use the zapper UNINTERRUPTED is really CRITICAL, you must not stop using it for any reason because this treatments develops a resistance to the use of electricity and frequencies, and no matter what you do if it gets interrupted the results or effectiveness are minimal if not zero due to the body get accustomed to this treatment. I compare this effect as the treatments we gave for tuberculosis. If the patient stops or skips some doses the treatment becomes non effective due to strains resistant to the treatment. We find this effect on our patients, no matter which zapper you use (High or low voltage) if stopped, no results any more. Alex Torres M.D. P.S. I know some persons that take medicines for years and never stops taking them, as the date, we cannot found any negative effects using electricity on the body, that's the reason to recommend to use it indefinitely. -Original Message- From: Bob Squires [mailto:rj...@dialnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSZappers Jeff Madore; Jeff , The problem with the dime is the concentrated surface area . We supply our Zappers with about 4 1/2 of 5/8 -7/8 OD copper tube as hand holds . These are covered with a couple of wraps of wet paper towels. I just tear one towel in half wrap it around and wet it . normal treatment time is 7-10 min on and 20 min or so off repeated three times or more a day, One session in the morning and another in the evening works fine . I personally think the zapper and the CS machine used together is the best treatment for disease there is or ever has been and that more people are cured of serious disease by this method than all of the others put together . I also think that the prescription drugs sold over the counter for huge amounts of money constitute the greatest fraud there ever has been . Your machine should be putting out from 4 1/2 to 5 dc volts . this is not representative of what is going on but just a quick easy check.. Concerning treatment those I know who have been cured of serious diseases have used the Zapper every day some twice a day and taken a quart of 5 PPM CS ,at the minimum, every day . Even those who have just come off of chemo therapy and been told there is no hope have been totally healed in five to six weeks. These treatments must be used in continued un broken fashion . After all what else is there that those who are not wealthy can afford. Best wishes for your recovery Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZappers
In a message dated 8/4/00 9:41:28 AM Central Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: Has anyone tried using a zapper on warts? OK, my curiosity has the best of me now. I've been on the list for a little over a week and keep reading so much about a zapper. I keep hoping I'll catch on without asking, but could someone please fill me in? Thanks.. Marlene ))) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZappers
A Hulda Clark zapper from her book A Cure For All Diseases. I cc'd this to a gentleman who makes some great ones that work. e mail him. Jolly marmar1...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/4/00 9:41:28 AM Central Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: Has anyone tried using a zapper on warts? OK, my curiosity has the best of me now. I've been on the list for a little over a week and keep reading so much about a zapper. I keep hoping I'll catch on without asking, but could someone please fill me in? Thanks.. Marlene ))) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSZappers/Rheumatoid Arthritis
Bob, Just what is the zapper supposed to kill besides parasites? Does it kill viruses and fungi that CS can't reach? Which zapper would you recommend for RA? Do you sell the magnetic pulser? How much do you charge for your zappers /magnetic pulsers? Thanks, Linda On Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:45:27 -0500 Bob Squires rj...@dialnet.net writes: Linda ; Try the Zapper first it is much easier and it works , More later YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZappers/Rheumatoid Arthritis
Hi Linda, On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 23:14:50 EDT, Linda Campbell linda...@juno.com wrote: Just what is the zapper supposed to kill besides parasites? Does it kill viruses and fungi that CS can't reach? IMO, the Zapper (Clark's zapper) kills viruses, bacteria and fungi primarily, I can't vouch for it killing worms/flukes. (I've tested it on bacteria and fungi.) -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSZappers
Dear Katie, According to our data, 70% of patients that abandon the treatment of electrotherapy, the next time they use it FOR THE SAME PROBLEM, it is hard to get a good response and sometimes the treatment is ineffective. This is more notorious in cancer patients. With our treatments, using the High voltage electrodes on the tumors, we got say 95% reduction in size, improvement in ALL the corporal functions and feelings, but if they abandon the treatment, and re-start in 2 weeks or more, we discovered that the tumors re-grows and are really hard (if not impossible) to reduce in size and symptoms. (Pain, consistence and mobility) Alex Torres M.D. -Original Message- From: Katie Jay [mailto:kj...@erols.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 8:40 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers If I've already interrupted the zapper treatment for a week or so, does that mean it won't be effective anymore? Thanks, Katie - Original Message - From: Alex C. Torres compu_...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:55 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers The suggestion that to use the zapper UNINTERRUPTED is really CRITICAL, you must not stop using it for any reason because this treatments develops a resistance to the use of electricity and frequencies, and no matter what you do if it gets interrupted the results or effectiveness are minimal if not zero due to the body get accustomed to this treatment. I compare this effect as the treatments we gave for tuberculosis. If the patient stops or skips some doses the treatment becomes non effective due to strains resistant to the treatment. We find this effect on our patients, no matter which zapper you use (High or low voltage) if stopped, no results any more. Alex Torres M.D. P.S. I know some persons that take medicines for years and never stops taking them, as the date, we cannot found any negative effects using electricity on the body, that's the reason to recommend to use it indefinitely. -Original Message- From: Bob Squires [mailto:rj...@dialnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSZappers Jeff Madore; Jeff , The problem with the dime is the concentrated surface area . We supply our Zappers with about 4 1/2 of 5/8 -7/8 OD copper tube as hand holds . These are covered with a couple of wraps of wet paper towels. I just tear one towel in half wrap it around and wet it . normal treatment time is 7-10 min on and 20 min or so off repeated three times or more a day, One session in the morning and another in the evening works fine . I personally think the zapper and the CS machine used together is the best treatment for disease there is or ever has been and that more people are cured of serious disease by this method than all of the others put together . I also think that the prescription drugs sold over the counter for huge amounts of money constitute the greatest fraud there ever has been . Your machine should be putting out from 4 1/2 to 5 dc volts . this is not representative of what is going on but just a quick easy check.. Concerning treatment those I know who have been cured of serious diseases have used the Zapper every day some twice a day and taken a quart of 5 PPM CS ,at the minimum, every day . Even those who have just come off of chemo therapy and been told there is no hope have been totally healed in five to six weeks. These treatments must be used in continued un broken fashion . After all what else is there that those who are not wealthy can afford. Best wishes for your recovery Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZappers
I can see that in cancer. But for general killing of parasites and other pathogens, will the same thing happen? Most of the people I know will zap every week or two to just keep things clean. More for a preventative than a cure of anything. What is the treatment you are using on cancer? What voltage, current and frequency? By on the tumor do you mean you actually insert the electrodes for direct contact on the tumor, or that you apply the electrodes as near the tumor as you can on the skin? I have read that chemo and radiation both harden cancer making what does not get killed off much more difficult to kill, even by other means such as Aprocot seeds and soy products ( http://www.haelanproducts.com/ ). Sounds like electrotherapy may do the same thing. Thanks, Marshall Alex C. Torres wrote: Dear Katie, According to our data, 70% of patients that abandon the treatment of electrotherapy, the next time they use it FOR THE SAME PROBLEM, it is hard to get a good response and sometimes the treatment is ineffective. This is more notorious in cancer patients. With our treatments, using the High voltage electrodes on the tumors, we got say 95% reduction in size, improvement in ALL the corporal functions and feelings, but if they abandon the treatment, and re-start in 2 weeks or more, we discovered that the tumors re-grows and are really hard (if not impossible) to reduce in size and symptoms. (Pain, consistence and mobility) Alex Torres M.D. -Original Message- From: Katie Jay [mailto:kj...@erols.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 8:40 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers If I've already interrupted the zapper treatment for a week or so, does that mean it won't be effective anymore? Thanks, Katie - Original Message - From: Alex C. Torres compu_...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:55 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers The suggestion that to use the zapper UNINTERRUPTED is really CRITICAL, you must not stop using it for any reason because this treatments develops a resistance to the use of electricity and frequencies, and no matter what you do if it gets interrupted the results or effectiveness are minimal if not zero due to the body get accustomed to this treatment. I compare this effect as the treatments we gave for tuberculosis. If the patient stops or skips some doses the treatment becomes non effective due to strains resistant to the treatment. We find this effect on our patients, no matter which zapper you use (High or low voltage) if stopped, no results any more. Alex Torres M.D. P.S. I know some persons that take medicines for years and never stops taking them, as the date, we cannot found any negative effects using electricity on the body, that's the reason to recommend to use it indefinitely. -Original Message- From: Bob Squires [mailto:rj...@dialnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSZappers Jeff Madore; Jeff , The problem with the dime is the concentrated surface area . We supply our Zappers with about 4 1/2 of 5/8 -7/8 OD copper tube as hand holds . These are covered with a couple of wraps of wet paper towels. I just tear one towel in half wrap it around and wet it . normal treatment time is 7-10 min on and 20 min or so off repeated three times or more a day, One session in the morning and another in the evening works fine . I personally think the zapper and the CS machine used together is the best treatment for disease there is or ever has been and that more people are cured of serious disease by this method than all of the others put together . I also think that the prescription drugs sold over the counter for huge amounts of money constitute the greatest fraud there ever has been . Your machine should be putting out from 4 1/2 to 5 dc volts . this is not representative of what is going on but just a quick easy check.. Concerning treatment those I know who have been cured of serious diseases have used the Zapper every day some twice a day and taken a quart of 5 PPM CS ,at the minimum, every day . Even those who have just come off of chemo therapy and been told there is no hope have been totally healed in five to six weeks. These treatments must be used in continued un broken fashion . After all what else is there that those who are not wealthy can afford. Best wishes for your recovery Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list
Re: CSZappers
Hi Katie It's ok to interupt or reduce the use of the Bob Beck blood purifier for a while if you feel sick or you are not getting rid of the distroyed bacteria in the blood..normally you might feel flu like symptoms if you over do it..If it's done properly your body will not get accustomed to this as the current flow is disabling the viruses and bacteria as required..the only effect you might notice is if you disable too many at one time. Bob Beck recommends that if this happens just stop or reduce usage for a time and then resume when you feel ok..Most people can't handle the blood purifier every day for an hour especially if you have a disease with a large bacteria or viral count...so adjust it to suit your body situation...The first thing you have to distinguish is the difference between the blood purifier and the clark zapper and consider which one you have. then follow the protocols for your design. -Original Message- From: Katie Jay kj...@erols.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:32 PM Subject: Re: CSZappers If I've already interrupted the zapper treatment for a week or so, does that mean it won't be effective anymore? Thanks, Katie - Original Message - From: Alex C. Torres compu_...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:55 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers The suggestion that to use the zapper UNINTERRUPTED is really CRITICAL, you must not stop using it for any reason because this treatments develops a resistance to the use of electricity and frequencies, and no matter what you do if it gets interrupted the results or effectiveness are minimal if not zero due to the body get accustomed to this treatment. I compare this effect as the treatments we gave for tuberculosis. If the patient stops or skips some doses the treatment becomes non effective due to strains resistant to the treatment. We find this effect on our patients, no matter which zapper you use (High or low voltage) if stopped, no results any more. Alex Torres M.D. P.S. I know some persons that take medicines for years and never stops taking them, as the date, we cannot found any negative effects using electricity on the body, that's the reason to recommend to use it indefinitely. -Original Message- From: Bob Squires [mailto:rj...@dialnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSZappers Jeff Madore; Jeff , The problem with the dime is the concentrated surface area . We supply our Zappers with about 4 1/2 of 5/8 -7/8 OD copper tube as hand holds . These are covered with a couple of wraps of wet paper towels. I just tear one towel in half wrap it around and wet it . normal treatment time is 7-10 min on and 20 min or so off repeated three times or more a day, One session in the morning and another in the evening works fine . I personally think the zapper and the CS machine used together is the best treatment for disease there is or ever has been and that more people are cured of serious disease by this method than all of the others put together . I also think that the prescription drugs sold over the counter for huge amounts of money constitute the greatest fraud there ever has been . Your machine should be putting out from 4 1/2 to 5 dc volts . this is not representative of what is going on but just a quick easy check.. Concerning treatment those I know who have been cured of serious diseases have used the Zapper every day some twice a day and taken a quart of 5 PPM CS ,at the minimum, every day . Even those who have just come off of chemo therapy and been told there is no hope have been totally healed in five to six weeks. These treatments must be used in continued un broken fashion . After all what else is there that those who are not wealthy can afford. Best wishes for your recovery Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZappers
The first thing you have to distinguish is the difference between the blood purifier and the clark zapper and consider which one you have. then follow the protocols for your design. Alvin, Right now I have the Clark zapper, but I was considering getting a beck device as I embark of his 4-point protocol. I was planning to use that protocol because of my lyme, mycoplasma and candida problems. I don't really know what role my clark zapper should play. Should I switch to only using the beck device, which will take care of the parasites, or should I use beck's device for the anti-lyme, etc., protocol and use clark's for my parasite treatment? What I really long for is an informed practitioner in my area. This group gives me so much help, but I am sick and trying to understand and manage this all by myself. If anyone knows of a great practitioner on the east US coast, let me know. Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZappers
Hi Katie. It's my opinion that you wouldn't use the clarke zapper as a blood purifier which is part of the Beck 4 protocol. the zapper is the hulda clark device which she recommends to kill parasites such as the intestinal fluke (flatworm) and other species..I has never been suggested by her that it is to be used to apply to the blood as a blood purifier...It is very common to mistake one for the other in functionLyme disease is a viral or bacteria infection where I would think that the blood purifier and magnetic pulser would both be required...one for lyme in the blood and the other for lyme in the tissue...this is why it's difficult to get rid of. chances are better if you attack it from two fronts. this is not medical advice but just my opinion. -Original Message- From: Katie Jay kj...@erols.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 8:03 AM Subject: Re: CSZappers The first thing you have to distinguish is the difference between the blood purifier and the clark zapper and consider which one you have. then follow the protocols for your design. Alvin, Right now I have the Clark zapper, but I was considering getting a beck device as I embark of his 4-point protocol. I was planning to use that protocol because of my lyme, mycoplasma and candida problems. I don't really know what role my clark zapper should play. Should I switch to only using the beck device, which will take care of the parasites, or should I use beck's device for the anti-lyme, etc., protocol and use clark's for my parasite treatment? What I really long for is an informed practitioner in my area. This group gives me so much help, but I am sick and trying to understand and manage this all by myself. If anyone knows of a great practitioner on the east US coast, let me know. Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZappers
Dr. Torres, How many patients experienced this effect from stopping the zapping and for what durations of time did they stop? Have any that stopped and then found it wouldn't work anymore, have these tried again after longer elapsed time? pj Katie Jay wrote: If I've already interrupted the zapper treatment for a week or so, does that mean it won't be effective anymore? Thanks, Katie - Original Message - From: Alex C. Torres compu_...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:55 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers The suggestion that to use the zapper UNINTERRUPTED is really CRITICAL, you must not stop using it for any reason because this treatments develops a resistance to the use of electricity and frequencies, and no matter what you do if it gets interrupted the results or effectiveness are minimal if not zero due to the body get accustomed to this treatment. I compare this effect as the treatments we gave for tuberculosis. If the patient stops or skips some doses the treatment becomes non effective due to strains resistant to the treatment. We find this effect on our patients, no matter which zapper you use (High or low voltage) if stopped, no results any more. Alex Torres M.D. P.S. I know some persons that take medicines for years and never stops taking them, as the date, we cannot found any negative effects using electricity on the body, that's the reason to recommend to use it indefinitely. -Original Message- From: Bob Squires [mailto:rj...@dialnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSZappers Jeff Madore; Jeff , The problem with the dime is the concentrated surface area . We supply our Zappers with about 4 1/2 of 5/8 -7/8 OD copper tube as hand holds . These are covered with a couple of wraps of wet paper towels. I just tear one towel in half wrap it around and wet it . normal treatment time is 7-10 min on and 20 min or so off repeated three times or more a day, One session in the morning and another in the evening works fine . I personally think the zapper and the CS machine used together is the best treatment for disease there is or ever has been and that more people are cured of serious disease by this method than all of the others put together . I also think that the prescription drugs sold over the counter for huge amounts of money constitute the greatest fraud there ever has been . Your machine should be putting out from 4 1/2 to 5 dc volts . this is not representative of what is going on but just a quick easy check.. Concerning treatment those I know who have been cured of serious diseases have used the Zapper every day some twice a day and taken a quart of 5 PPM CS ,at the minimum, every day . Even those who have just come off of chemo therapy and been told there is no hope have been totally healed in five to six weeks. These treatments must be used in continued un broken fashion . After all what else is there that those who are not wealthy can afford. Best wishes for your recovery Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
