[RCSE] Gordy's Sand Dollars
Gordy!! For heavens sake WHAT has making dollars with radio control beach cleaners have to do with Radio Control Soaring--have you lost your creativity !!?? What a bummer! This post!? I am announcing I am going to be slope soaring my tired/ Blushing /Taboo up the west coast of Japan as well as a L.A. /Scrappy /(mini zagi like wing made from scraps--now that is creativity, Gordy) that my son Jonathan built and gave me for a Father's Day past! So there, Gordy. From the Isles BEYOND Hawaii, Gordy!! (Gordy doesn't know Japan from Hawaii any more than he knows the difference between beer and barley pops! Skypilot
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #11128
Do you mean this is how we are suppose to read Gordy--/wakarimashita/!! Sky Pilot Soaring wrote: SoaringMon, 28 Apr 2008Volume 1 : Number 11128 In this issue: Re: written communication nuances RE: [RCSE] Re: written communication nuances -- Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:50:54 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: written communication nuances Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what education was for. We're supposed to know how to read and write effectively. If we can't write with nuances, we can't write jokes. If someone is reading one of my posts and steam starts coming out of their ears, most of the time they can most easily remedy this by reading it again, carefully. It's not that I don't make a big mistake once in a while, but generally I'm just trying to lead the reader a ways down the garden path before revealing the punchline. Also, generally, I read the messages over several times before sending them. (hint: If you see words like organic, idiot, goat, vegan, cannibal, unobtainium, bozo, etc., be suspicious. Chances are I'm pulling your leg. Unless I'm talking about CJD, kuru, etc. Or politics. Come to think of it, is there much difference?) Carlos Reyes wrote: This is a surprisingly common problem. I read a research report once that studied the effectiveness of written communication. I forget the exact details, but a major finding was that most of the time the reader *thinks* they understood the intended meaning and emotion, when in fact they didn't. I've learned to be careful in jumping to conclusions and to be very clear in what I write. -- Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:56:23 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] Re: written communication nuances Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree, but most do not read, but rather skim the text, read what they think they are reading, and then answer without knowing even their side. My addage: It is better to not answer and let people think you are an idiot, than to reply, and remove all doubt. Chris Original Message Subject: [RCSE] Re: written communication nuances From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, April 28, 2008 3:50 pm To: Soaring@airage.com That's what education was for. We're supposed to know how to read and write effectively. If we can't write with nuances, we can't write jokes. If someone is reading one of my posts and steam starts coming out of their ears, most of the time they can most easily remedy this by reading it again, carefully. It's not that I don't make a big mistake once in a while, but generally I'm just trying to lead the reader a ways down the garden path before revealing the punchline. Also, generally, I read the messages over several times before sending them. (hint: If you see words like organic, idiot, goat, vegan, cannibal, unobtainium, bozo, etc., be suspicious. Chances are I'm pulling your leg. Unless I'm talking about CJD, kuru, etc. Or politics. Come to think of it, is there much difference?) Carlos Reyes wrote: This is a surprisingly common problem. I read a research report once that studied the effectiveness of written communication. I forget the exact details, but a major finding was that most of the time the reader *thinks* they understood the intended meaning and emotion, when in fact they didn't. I've learned to be careful in jumping to conclusions and to be very clear in what I write. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- End of Soaring V1 #11128 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] GORDY POETRY
Gordy takes more poetic license than the average, sure! It took him five years of posting me to be able to spell Hawaii as J A P A N !! He was always into too many barley pops, he said, to know the difference. You say Thank God! for the Gordys--if we can't laugh, we are poor indeed there is no pill, no substitute medicine !! Hi! Gordy! --Sky Pilot RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SASS Help!! Keeping Sixty Acres South for the Greater Community's Good
Thank You! LSF Officers for the fine post to the King County Council Members! Below is _some_ of my edited post! We need to let them KNOW NOW that SASS is US !! NOT just them and this is an activity that DOES involve all ages and families. I have done it in my own way and you can help by posting your own messages! I have researched RCHLG/DHL history for a book on its relatively short existence--Since 1979. Whereas the beginnings are a Southern California phenomena it quickly developed exponentially into an international part of RC Soaring. After a yet long ongoing process there will be be a World Championship in Europe in 2009 or 2011 under the auspices of the Commission Internationale Aeromodelling/Federation Aeronautique Internationale (CIAM/FAI), and will be attended by a number of our US pilots. From the1979 origin, through the innovator (known in the hobby as The Ole'Buzzard, Dave Thornburg) attending a CIAM/FAI World's Championship for RC gliders (similar to the larger gliders flown at 60 Acres) with his prototype RCHLG in France there was the subsequent birthing of RCHLG in Europe. One of today's prominent Japanese in RC Soaring was attending the same international competition and returned to Japan and introduced RCHLG here! I have been a part of its becoming here in Japan what at one point was called /Hand Launch Mania/. *Meanwhile* !! Three parties particular to SASS became a */force'majeure/* in this international community of RC sailplane enthusiasts with their introduction of MAJOR changes in the hobby through launch technique and in aircraft design, an evolution in launch technique that required equally radical design changes. The change from a so called/ javelin launch/ (physically distressful) to the /discus launch/ (tripling launch heights and making it possible for youngsters, the less physically endowed and especially older pilots to enjoy flying) revolutionized this art-form when one SASS pilot, Dick Barker, showed up at the 2000 International Hand Launch Glider Festival competing with his own innovative design and discus launching. At the next year's IHLGF everyone was doing it; and I was, too, with a Dick Barker custom built sailplane !! Phil Pearson, another SASS pilot who had introduced the Side Arm Launch, SAL, the precursor to the DHL, continued with advancing the RCDHL design which became a hobby standard. /Red /Weston as an entrepreneurial pilot has been another of the SASS RCDHL pilots responsible for the popularity of RCDHL and known to us all! The whole WORLD knows what where 60 Acres IS, we DO, and what has and IS happening there! I am reminded of how in Southern California it became necessary for us across the United States and around the world as a part of the soaring flight community to come together over against developers and fight to maintain Torrey Pines as an American ALL gliding flight HISTORICAL site (so designated today) for Full-Scale, Para Sailing and RC Soaring as it is as historic to sailplaning in America as is Elmira, New York--both are Meccas for silent flight soaring in America and the WORLD. It is quite easy to understand how you could see the SASS as just a local group--and as just a bunch of kids who didn't grow-up playing with their toys--selfishly trying to push their own agenda--they are a part of us, lobbying for our kids and families! In our minds, as an international community, let alone the USA, in your OWN back yard you have a site and a club, the SASS, that is virtually as important to our RC Soaring community as is Torrey Pines and the Torrey Pines Gulls, the IHLGF sponsors! The singular nature of 60 Acres as unique to our pastime has been rehearsed for you before--in that respect, it is not just about being there, it is about its uniquely meeting meteorological requirements for sailplane flying, making it one of the best fields in America for RC Soaring, and the unreasonable possibility of coming up with an alternate site. Let SASS know we appreciate them; LET KING COUNTY KNOW . . . --Sky Pilot (Yes! I am still around!!!)
[RCSE] Benchmark Models
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On this topic, The HLG Monarch has to be included! ABSOLUTELY!! --Sky Pilot Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/ http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1162 - Release Date: 11/30/2007 9:26 PM
[RCSE] Saving 60 Acres for the RC Soaring Community
This was an earlier contribution to the previous effort which has been posted to the addressees Jim suggested. This is OUR fight--join up !! Sky Pilot I am absolutely disgusted with how King County has handled the 60 Acres situation!! Earlier I address some members thusly: Respectfully [!!??] to the Authorities involved in the determinations regarding the future use of the present recreational grounds known as 60 Acres--particularly for RC flying: Undoubtedly [!!??] by now you have become aware of how widely 60 Acres is known around the United States, and I would add around the world, for its unique serviceability for our RC soaring activity. I have made two sojourns from Japan to the Northwest area of Washington because there is 60 Acres. It has long and widely become known as a Mecca for RC soaring pilots; I was astounded by its suitability for our RC soaring activity within such a high density population area. Of course it remains an area also available for other sports [besides more soccer] activities as well, which activities would also incur a great loss if this open field area is cut up or determined for any other use than its present recreational purposes. As I would find it difficult to express myself any better than a friend who has already posted you, I quote: . . . we participate in a hobby that spans generations. It takes a very specific piece of land in order to fly RC Sailplanes. Most of us served our country in the armed forces [I served three years as a Green Beret-PPC], all of us support America not only by paying taxes but by setting an example of being constructive, inventive and creative to younger generations who have become stuck in front of televisions... While we're not too old to pay for soccer fields, we're mostly too old to play soccer. But there are many Americans who also 'don't play soccer' but do have hobbies and sports that need pieces of public land to provide some enjoyment of life after work. I hope you are successful in preserving that piece of America for us and other generations. RC Soaring is extremely environmentally friendly, we rely on hawks and birds [bugs butterflies-PPC] to point our way to rising air, our models are virtually silent and emit no fumes or liquids. As a career missionary in Japan, now president emeritus of a seminary, I have traveled and continue to travel the United States every two or three years representing our work. As an Oregonian with a number of supporters, friends and family in the Northwest we always spend time in the area. The last time I was in the States I participated in the Pacific Northwest RC Hand Launch Regional held there at 60 Acres under the auspices of the Seattle Area Soaring Society (SASS); this club is known nationally for making 60 Acres a hub of RC soaring interests in the United States and IN the Northwest--this is no exaggeration! This next summer I will participate in an international and two regional RC soaring contests and plan to visit 60 Acres. As a side note, I might add that a picture referencing 60 Acres RC soaring activity appeared in our last magazine newsletter Osaka News under Sky Pilot's Hangar--1500 USA circulation. RC soaring has put 60 Acres on the international map. I am personally aware that there are several RC pilots in Japan who won their RC soaring wings at 60 Acres and are back in Japan! On account of the fact, that RC soaring or silent flight is so environmentally friendly and not subject to so many of the complaints of other modeling activities, RC soaring has been experiencing a significant increased participation [SASS has herself been responsible for a significant aspect of this surge in interest]. Particularly, the RC Hand Launch Glider (RCHLG) category has brought about an increase in interest and participants. It is on your own 60 Acres that one Dick Barker revolutionized RC soaring with what we call the discus launch or RCHLG-DHL--not to ignore the earlier side arm launch or RCHLG-SAL initiated by SASS member Phil Pearson. This launch method has not only nearly doubled launch heights (and our FUN), it has enabled many older and/or non-atheletic types to become or continue to be involved in one of the most fulfilling recreational activities one can take part in--not to mention much less physical stress on anybody. Everybody who is anybody in RC Soaring knows there IS 60 Acres. [Where are you in recognizing acknowledging this aside from soccer politics !!??] It should go without saying, nevertheless let me point out from the above, that for some time now businesses and the community have been experiencing significant income and benefits from the RC soaring activity at 60 Acres. At the regional two-day contest I attended alone, a number of RC pilots flew in from around the United States and we were staying in local accommodations and spending monies over a three-day period. Many, and a number of luminaries in our RC soaring community, consider 60 Acres their home field, but
[RCSE] RE: Who remembers The Old Buzzard video?
John Roe posted: Who remembers The Old Buzzard video? --and Dave Thornburg? Still available? DVD? ww.roenation.com . Welcome back Sensei!! I hope you didn't crash land out :-) !! Is start up so bad after your illustrative years under Guru Joe :-) !!?? That you need to get back to such basics :-) !!?? CU at IHLGF :-) !! --Sky Pilot P.S. And, Oh! Yes! I have the video but then there is Radio Carbon Art Guru Paul Naton with the latest and the best: Order Now Online: http://www.radiocarbonart.com/store/rcaorder.php or give us a call at 541-752-9661 Monday thru Friday 10-5 Pacific time. Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/ http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/309 - Release Date: 4/11/2006
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7099 --Old Graupner Sailplane Part?
I'll second that request !!?? I NEED one, too Sky Pilot! From: Jim Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Old Graupner Sailplane Part? I just acquired an old Graupner sailplane. It has a T-tail with a two piece plastic mounting device the allows a full-flying stab to rock on top the fin. This plastic piece is broken and appears to have been a weak link in the design. Does Graupner (or perhaps someone in this forum) stock old bits and pieces? The sailplane is pretty attractive and looks like a good sport flyer so I'd like to restore it. Thanks in advance, Jim Deck Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/ http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/251 - Release Date: 2/4/2006
[RCSE] RE:assisted soaring,etc
From: Tom Kallevang [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is Gordy's best post yet, on ANY subject! tk Guess that is how the cookie crumbles! --ppc Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/ http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.22/238 - Release Date: 1/23/2006
Re: [RCSE] Computer Guided Thermaling
At 08:25 PM 1/20/2006, you wrote: The only time I had an advantage with the thermal sensor was when the model was directly overhead or at extreme visual range. --Chuck Anderson Chuck! Does this mean you are going back to using it again :-/ :-) !!?? Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/ http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/235 - Release Date: 1/19/2006
[RCSE] Thermic 72 Plans wanted
George! You are really pushing the envelope on this one :-) !! I built one of these--and never throw-a-way a plan of anything I build, but that was 45 years ago (and a move or two between; marriage, four kids, etc, etc. . . ) and it was an ole'bird then :-) !! I even tried to put a Cox 0.10 inboard on one of the wings to get a motor launch but to no avail :-) !! I towed it up under the great Mission San Jose full scale slope site where I was a student glider driver under Soaring Hall of Famer Les Arnold, but never saw it sky out!! It DID have a dethermalizer on it, too--just in case :-) !! Gave it to a young kid across from where I was dorming in college--wonder if he is still flying !!?? Sky Pilot--planning on IHLGF AMA/LSF Nats '06 Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/ http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 2006 AMA-LSF NATS MidSouths
What are the dates for the AMA/LSF Soaring NATS and what day for RCHLG-DHL !!?? Where will the 2006 MidSouth Soaring Championships be - dates RCHLG-DHL day !!?? Of course the Worlds - IHLGF, Poway, CA will be June (12) 34, 2006 !! Please Thank You!! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/ http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Responses to 2006 AMA-LSF NATS MidSouths Request
I requested the dates for the AMA/LSF Soaring NATS and the day for RCHLG-DHL !!?? Also the 2006 MidSouth Soaring Championships dates RCHLG-DHL day !!?? Of course the Worlds - IHLGF, Poway, CA will be June (12) 34, 2006 !! Off line results were immediate and here they are for all. Special Thanks! to those who responded!! The 2006 MidSouth Soaring Championships will be held here in Louisville, Kentucky. Ed says they'll be held the weekend before 4th of July, which is Friday June 30th 2006 - Sunday July 2nd 2006. Ben Ed --Wilsons both :-) !! AMA/LSF Nats: July 21 - 28; Friday 7/21: HandLaunch Registration will open January 1st, 2006. Watch AMA and LSF websites for the links. --Tom Kallevang (and Bacus all up, JIM) All NO BRAINERs for me--IHLGF, absolutely; MidSouths, can't--no way; AMA/LSF NATs, calendar bullseye! Lord allowing CU :-) !! --Sky Pilot Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/ http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/147 - Release Date: 10/24/2005
Re: [RCSE] Death to RCR
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Lots of folks complained about all the ads - me, I always felt it was the most comprehensive/convenient comparative shopping reference out there (and some good columnists and designs over the years). I'll miss it (particularly since I just renewed in May!). Good Lift! We lost a LOT more when Model Builder went down!! Bill Forrey's first full coverage of the IHLGF (always GREAT contest write-ups) went down at the press . I had two articles and a slope design article in the wings AND had just renewed for two years :-( !! Nothing has been the same since RCSE. Some will remember, however, the early months-couple of years of incessant flame wars that accept for the MAN at MAN would have been it's undoing. I miss Model Builder VERY MUCH and I miss the ole'RCSD of Jan Jer as much. (And don't forget when Herk Stokley retired from Flying Models that was the last of this club in that rag, too.) I long ago exercised my opinion with the other rags for lack of RC soaring material. OTOH I wouldn't want to go back for what we have gained! AH! Progress! Has it's downside, always: tis'human :-) !! I am continually thankful for what we do have!! It has been so much more in many ways!! SO!! Thank You!! Michael Thank You!! B2-RCSD for continuing to carry on. --Sky Pilot Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/ http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/81 - Release Date: 8/24/2005
[RCSE] DaytonAerotow2005 Pix
TNX! for the pics, Jack! Can't miss Paul--have you guys ever considered taking a collection and buying him a new hat :-) !!?? --Paul, the one in Japan Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/ http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] DaytonAerotow2005 Pix
Steve! Jack left out the dog. You don't mess with a man's dog either! --Paul Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/ http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] The Ubiquitous Gordy
He is a legend alright--infamous as well as informative--gregarious and a hoot :-) !! Not everybody's cup of tea, a great guy :-) !! A Dave Berry humorist--riles the uninitiated, aids the needy :-) !! Get's it right; gets it wrong--depending on your point of view. If you can't laugh at yourself stay far away--and miss the FUN :-) !! He is a traveling salesman with a good product and keeps in touch with the soaring community as he travels nationwide and sometimes to Australia. He is always up in the air :-) !! Franchise GordySoar Approved Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/ http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] air travel with transmitter
has anyone had problems taking transmitters on aircraft for travel in US? NEVER!! OTOH my hand carried birds have often been challenged--very disconcerting, considering the profound difference between the actual inherent difference in danger between the two!! --Sky Pilot Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.jesus4greaterasia.com/ http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] RCHLG (SAL) DHL History
Stefan Wahlberg posted SALglider, As I understand it neither US or Germany are fully following the Provisional rules F3K that is stated by FAI. Why is it like this??? In part Phil Barnes responded, We have been flying hand launch contests in the States since before there was F3K (I think). I'm not sure what the F3K rules say or what the differences might be. Getting zero for landing out is one area where the two sets of rules agree. If there are differences, I guess they stem from the people with different ideas about what makes a good hand launch contest. For more years than I can remember (care to remember that is) I have been threatening to write A 'Light' History of RCHLG and have done considerable research, corresponded and interviewed. With my privilege of traveling the States (deputation as a missionary president emeritus of a seminary in Japan) since 1992 I have been making regional, national and international RCHLG contests a part of my itinerary and am well acquainted with this unique crowd--in 2003: MidSouths, AMA/LSA Nats the Worlds-IHLGF--been there done that three times. Indeed a brief and entertaining history of RCHLG is at Ray Hayes Skybench Aerotech site http://www.skybench.com/index.html go from the index to R/C Sailplanes and there find Hand Launch ; now scroll down to Mark Miller and Click here for his site. THIS IS THE ONLY way to reach this material; in Mark's index look for A 'Light' History of RCHLG as well as Model Builder RCHLG Bibliography an extensive annotated bibliography which details the history up to the demise of this great magazine, October 1996. There is nothing else around like this. This material really closes out the first RCHLG era and I would recon there have been two significant periods of development since--14oz to 11oz to 6oz :-) !!. RCHLG is MADE in USA-American--and spread from The Ole'Buzzard hisself taking his Sunbird to the 1979 FAI Worlds in Belgium; Japan France took the idea home from there--took a LONG while for it to catch on in both and it would take Joe to help jump-start Japan, infect the Kiwis and subsequently them Aussies about the same time! At the time the Torrey Pines Gulls had well put their WORLDS IHLGF on the international map some Europeans with a short history of RCHLG started talking F3K and pushed their agenda and in 1999 it was declared a World Class with a provisional set of rules. While I was in the frey (presenting a paper to our FAI representative) for declaring the long generally established 1.5m or 59 1/2 (i.e. 60 in as it were) wing span, the European presented rules became the format rather than the USA. In the end, Phil has given you the simple answer--different ideas about what makes a good hand launch contest.--it has just been declared by the courts in Japan that the Prime Minister's visits to the Yasukuni Shrine are unconstitutional and illegal, but he said, I will go anyway. The way of the RCHLG-DHL contest has been well established here in the USA before there was a F3K Class and provisional rules. There will never be a F3K WORLDS; the IHLGF holds and will hold that place for some time to come: her rules, ways and tasks seed reign!! Thank You Torrey Pines Gulls for another WORLDS of RCHLG and again, CONGRATS! Phil--surprised by FIRST!! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] Re:UKs loss, USs gain
Most everyone should be so fortunate ! or Five Stars! Around the USA there are several pockets or centers of major RC Soaring activity. William R. Henley [EMAIL PROTECTED] plus http://www.reddata.com/sass/ has just given you the SASS Club's WELCOME! to one the most important and BEST! They have it ALL!! RCHLG-DHL Research Center, thermal (yet,Thanks! to GOOD lawyering) and undoubtable some of the BEST slopes in the world not that far away (their big problem is WHICH one to try for the day)--been there and done some of all of it; well, I have thermaled my RCHLG-DHL's there :-) !! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
Re: [RCSE] Hobie Hawk - Rebirth?
Chris Adams could give you a response to the question. You lurking Chris !!?? http://www.scrollsander.com/ChrisSoaring.htm Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
Re: [RCSE] Lest you forget
Lost 34 friends one night, Pleiku, Nam--only two survived playing dead of three SF Green Beret Teams. I am so PROUD I SERVED, I am thankful I had three years I could give my country! -- was 7th SF Gp (Airborne) Sky Pilot Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] GORDY TYPE . . .
. . . to boot; what a hoot :-) !! Together you guys have lost enough nuts to feed the town of Olney, IL's White squirrels for a long Winter. --Sky Pilot My TX has a thousand+ hours on it , how about your's S? :-) Louisville tonite and cold, well for here that is. --Gordy Does leaving it on over night count towards hours? BP Nah! Don't you get it!!?? Gordy uses his TX timer to keep track of his 347 time; don't take him Sirrus! --Sky Pilot Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] RCHLG-DHL Art Form History, Part One
Recent postings on the SAL Group have my research-writing juices flowing again; when I try to list-organize all my projects, I always include my A 'Light' History of RCHLG ! It is something I want to do, have worked on a lot, but a lot has happened since I was able to focus on it. I am interested in detailed and/or anecdotal information about how interest first occurred and how it generated--models that made it go-where YOU fly or have flown, or whom you have flown with! I will appreciate any help from the U.S.A. and WORLD scene FROM YOUR own neck of the woods! If you can direct me to others (who can communicate with me in English) that will be most appreciated. --Sky Pilot's Hangar http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) Adapted from my SAL posts: My SAL post brought several thoughts to mind about RCHLG progress over the last few years. For one, having started out on free-flight rubber powered models and HLGs--and following the power free-flighters, it was from early on a mystery to me why we flew RCHLG with such thick airfoils. So did Don Joe!! And the Monarch itself is now RCHLG history (anybody want a NIB C model) providing a number of other giant steps forward in RCHLG history! Jay Decker posted, After playing with poly DLG for far too long, I moving on. and then Bernie Hunt,. . . the other with 4.7 dihedral and flown exclusively on rudder). Using the same camber control, I can throw both models to the same height (31m=102' measured with the LoLo2 / Alti2 altimeter) but my big dihedral / rudder controlled model is easier to fly accurately and, on average, stays up longer in still air or thermals. In response I posted: Joe Wurts' Aftershock harbingered the fullhouse RCHLG ongoing era of the present. The F3B model imit'rants maintained the virtually FLAT wings. It took a length of time (like in thick airfoils) for today's significant dihedral to appear in the all but virtually flat wings and the poly wing to come back into its own. Long ago, Larry Jolly took me out to the field and on a blustery day showed me how difficult to impossible it was to sky out a poly under such conditions when the simple dihedral model fairly danced in the wind and did sky out--something I continue to observe in my ole'Buzzard friends on my periodic travels around the United States. Some will recall Buzz Tokunaga who flew in two IHLGFs (largely responsible for RCHLG Mania in Japan and introduced Micro-RCHLG to the world--now retired from RCHLG a DHL victim); and, but for falling fatefully to the hill, was in a position to win, did it with a three-servo aileron ship; he said he flew (the point) smoother with but one servo to the ailerons with built in aileron differential. Those flat wing F3B imitations were intolerably dirty fliers--what in full-scale we called it (at least we use to) when someone was skidding around the sky with a heavy foot on the rudder. At least in most hands, not the upper 10% apparently, it was intolerably difficult to fly clean--conserve altitude. At the time, it was natural for someone as gifted--dexterously adept, technologically informed, experientially skilled, imagination challenged--to take things to the next level. It was a new challenge and as more of the challenged glider-guiders came under the trance of RCHLG they brought their skills and their frame (wing planform) of mind with them. It took much longer for experience to catch up with the science-technology that would create the best design adapted to, I will say it, how we contest in RCHLG. Duration-Times-Rule = (Launch Altitude + Flying Skill) X Thermal Sniffer Noggin !! Now there you have it in a formula. INFORMATION + IMAGINATION = CREATIVITY and Keep it Simple Silly :-) !! If it looks right it will fly--if it doesn't it won't. Ask Skunkworks :-) !!?? (P.S. It did!) Why today's-tomorrow's fighter jets being impossible machines to humanly fly are basically computer (RC :-) !) controlled !! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] RCHLG-DHL Art Form History, Part Two
As I did not particularly follow the trend away from the poly-two-servo RCHLG I am a little lost as to who cranked up the dihedral on our birds. I would be interested in how this more immediate history has developed and/from the models out there competing with each other in the hands of those who are affording them--or scratch building them :-) ! Martin Kopplow [EMAIL PROTECTED] responded to this post with, Hi Paul, I don't know either who introduced the large dihedral wings, but from what I have seen from my personal point of view, it did not come as an introduction but as an evolution. And I, Thanks! for your post, Martin! You have given me more help-hope than I have had in a long time toward getting back to my research and writing project, A 'Light' History of RCHLG. I have had a couple of significant European leads, one of which I would hope to see come through eventually--you'll find him in the material sited below. I KNOW how RCHLG got started in Europe, the French connection, (the same way it got started in the United States), how it got started in Japan (the same way it got started in the United States), how it got started in England, how it got started in Australia, New Zealand. I am not so interested in FIRSTS, though that's always interesting--especially if it turns out not to be the case; firsts are very elusive--claims end up unearthing earlier progenitors. Have you seen the December issue of Aeroplane and the article on Sir George Cayley (1773-1857)? Sir who? Sir Cayley, the inventor of the aeroplane :-) !! Indeed! We are talking about the evolution of our art form! I am interested in specific development of our creations we fly: the models, the designers, the pilots personalities behind it all. I am also just as interested in RCHLG's development around the world and this may mean regional development for any given country. In the US there have come to be several hotbeds-seedbeds of evolutionary progress irrespective of Southern California remaining the Mecca, but only because of the great effort of the Torrey Pines Gulls' with their (WORLD'S of RCHLG) The International Hand Launch Glider Festival :-) !! Flown it 3X's and came away with the first Eagle Plaque--the away winner; see you June 5-6, 2004 at Poway for the 11th Annual IHLGF (RCHLG-DHL World Cup Fly) !! You will find some history at http://www.skybench.com/index.html then go to LINKS and then go to Mark Miller's Dave Thornburg-Old Buzzard's Soaring Contest (no longer available Mark Miller direct) then to A 'Light' History of RCHLG and also to Model Builder RCHLG Bibliography. Also, from the index 'click' on R/C Sailplanes and then 'click' on HAND LAUNCH and scroll through the page; next try Sunbird Classic Report ! My chapter on the Japanese history was not published by RC Technique for lack of a promising translator. I ask/invite your comments!! As Martin's post is interesting and illustrative of the kind of help I would like in accumulating information from around the world it follows below. Help me help ourselves to a FUN narrative of our RCHLG history; and Thank You! for the read! - and the INFORMATION you are getting ready to post or send :-) !! Shortly after the SAL came here we began experimenting to optimize our existing poly ships we just made molds for, so they would a) be salable at all and b) withstand the stress of the new launch technique. At the same time some were adapting F5B wings or the outer panels of F3B wings to create aileron SAL-HLGs. The latter launched drastically higher right from the beginning. The drawback was their poor hang time, besides they required different flying tactics. Being able to perform a repeatable, safe launch with a plane . . . CONTINUED WITH PART THREE Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] RCHLG-DHL Art Form History, Part Three
As Martin's post is interesting and illustrative of the kind of help I would like in accumulating information from around the world it follows below. Help me help ourselves to a FUN narrative of our RCHLG history; and Thank You! for the read! - and the INFORMATION you are getting ready to post or send :-) !! Shortly after the SAL came here we began experimenting to optimize our existing poly ships we just made molds for, so they would a) be salable at all and b) withstand the stress of the new launch technique. At the same time some were adapting F5B wings or the outer panels of F3B wings to create aileron SAL-HLGs. The latter launched drastically higher right from the beginning. The drawback was their poor hang time, besides they required different flying tactics. Being able to perform a repeatable, safe launch with a plane that had a low sink rate seemed to be the most important issue to sort out and there were two sides from which the optimizing process started. That was when I built my first DLG and I decided to go with the flat wings but add a bit of HLG flavour so my design featured a zero dihedral wing, an airfoil that had been developed for our team s last molded javelin style HLG design and a fairly swept back planform with a classic HLG 6-panel chord distribution. This made for a very precise, reasonable high launch, good penetration and an acceptable hang time despite it s pretty high weight, but had awful handling when searching for thermals and I m sure I missed most of them without even noticing. At competitions I saw that some made the oppsite approach and reduced the dihedral of those planes that were developed from the poly design concept and prolonged the tail boom until they launched more precise. Even if they did still have problems with launch precision, handling and height, their overall performance was better compared to the still higher launching F5B derivates. It came clear some some minimum dihedral was needed while ailerons/flaps were a nessecity. While I tried to increase the dihedral of my flat wings until they became flyable others further flattened their poly wings until they allowed for a precise launch. It is interesting to see, that while I ended up with a low dihedral poly flaperon wing (45mm=1,75), most have converted to a single `deep dihedral in an otherwise straight wing now. I do not believe this is due to performance only, but also for reasons of simplified construction in production DLGs wich became more and more common in competition flying. I still see a lot of DLGs with poly tip panels or similar, which perfom well especially in thermaling, but these are usually flown by those who build their own designs. The difference in performance of all current DLG designs is getting smaller each year, and given a limited time we can spend for our passion, it already is a performance factor to go buy our competition gear and rather spend the time on the field practicing than in the shop scratch building or experimenting with a (maybe) optimized own design, besides the precision in production has reached a level hardly achievable in a private workshop. Nevertheless, I m going to go on scratchbuilding because I do not only want to be successful in a competition, but I also want to learn why one design is good, while the other is even better and because it is fun to tweak things. Maybe I ll come up with a little surprise now and then to keep development going? Just my personal view... --Martin Thank You! for the read--give some thought to passing on a piece of your mind :-) ! --Sky Pilot Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] Quotable Quotes
Another advantage to Fort Steilaccom Park is that it is right across the street from Western Washington State Hospital (mental hospital). So You could visit some ex-RC pilots while you are in the area. SASS Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] GRASS or SUZUKI
Some call it grass--actually it is Susuki bamboo like grass; well bamboo IS in the grass family--and when it covers a mountain top (rare) you have a possible slope sight in Japan--BUT it may be from knee high to over your head--WORSE than corn; i.e. doesn't grow in rows and can cover ponds of water. It went out of sight around the back of the site no more than 150 feet/30M away from us; we hunted, given the number of bodies, for hours without success! That day I even caught a picture of my buddies sloper as it went out of sight. On a couple of return trips using the photo, we looked and looked again and THEN the forestry department cut a firebreak through the area. One servo salvaged to fly again: the rest looked like a dispersed mouse nest :-( !! Indeed, we had walked by it numerous times but had also miscalculated the distance it achieved after going out of sight :-( !! I didn't know grass could grow this high!/Me, while searching for my Zagi this past summer. Andersen/Mileski Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] re: Tom Hoopes
You are in trouble NOW, Tom--not just BUSY, but in TROUBLE!! You have been reported to RCSE !!! Anybody who has been around RCSE KNOWS Tom. Gads!! Well, Tom, at least you have finally been reported to RCSE--you have joined an elite group :-) ! Gads!!?? Sturat say Thanks, Tom. (Oh! But 15, you're welcome :-( !!) Gads!! Hello all, I ordered a wiring harness from Tom Hoopes using PayPal over a week ago and I havent heard anything from him I was in conract with him before I ordered it. Has any one else had this problem. --Thanks Stuart. P.S. Let me know [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] MY--Friend of soaring/ Gordy--TOO :-) !
My hat is off to Gordy for the time he spent encouraging a novice glider guider...And that is all I have to say about that... --Brian Smith That's the Gordy I know :-) !! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] SAVE 60 ACRES for RC SOARING
The Seattle Area Soaring Society (SASS) project being lead by Sherman Knight to SAVE 60 ACRES for RC SOARING is in a very important round--with recent media coverage, Seattle Times and KIRO TV, and letters and posts to King County Redmond City officials there is movement in our desired direction--as it becomes known that THIS IS an ISSUE to be taken seriously by ALL for ALL. It has become known through research and these efforts that particularly Redmond City officials have been taken by surprise by this projected desecration of park property purchased by tax payer monies and that county officials themselves who have supported such a project have been blind sided concerning where the sewerage treatment plant would be built. For US, once again as with Eagle Butte Torrey Pines, there IS someone on this project who is the kind of lawyering needed to take it on AND is one of us AND able and willing to put forth the time, energy and expense to accomplish it !! BUT the MAN SASS need our help !! From Sherman the following (adapted): So the next letter wave is to take the letters you have already written, write a short cover letter and send them to the Redmond City Counsel and the Mayor. They are: [Of course you need to create an appropriate post or letter] Council 425-556-2101 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Council and Mayor 425-556-2101 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Richard Cole, Council President 425-881-2129 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Paine 425-867-9813 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sharon Dorning 425-881-9547 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nancy McCormick 425-556-2116 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg Misenar 425-881-6111 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holly Plackett, Council Vice President 425-881-7422 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Robinson 425-882-2270 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail a hard copy to Mayor 's office at Mayor's Office, CHEX Counsel Person Redmond City Counsel City of Redmond P.O. Box 97010 15670 N.E. 85th Street Redmond, WAð 98073-9710 PO Box 97010 Redmond, Washington 98073 [Previous parties to address (ultimately a county matter) and county officials are, AND particularly the fly in the ointment remains one, Ron Sims (if you post no one else POST SIMS): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (vigorously resisting--vested interests showing) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (working to move or cancel the project)] This is the next big push. I need the Mayor and the Counsel to get at least 40 letters. AND I NEED THEM TO GET THE LETTERS BEFORE FRIDAY. Start the letter with something like the following: I understand you listened to Kathy Lambert at the Tuesday Counsel meeting. I am one of the people that use 60 Acres South and have sent several letters to Ron Sims and the King County Counsel. I am sending you a copy of the letters I have already sent. I fully back Kathy Lamberts position that the Facility should be relocated or that King County should partnership with another city that already has a Membrane facility. CHARGE: I cannot stress how important it is for the Counsel and the mayor to get these letters in the next two days. Sherman L. Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Other SASS members with good letters information: Pat Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Lauren Anstead [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; John Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Vaughn Entwistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] REMEMBER we rallied for EAGLE BUTTE for TORREY PINES, NOW for the SAKE of 60 ACRES !! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] SAVE 60 ACRES for RC SOARING (UPDATE)
[Thank You! for the space/read, and SASS says Thank You! I am in kahoots with Sherman/SASS. I don't know how the RCSE so messed over my last post--it came out fine in the SAL Allegro-lite groups.] CONTINUED support in posts and letters is needed until this has been seen through. Sherman is working this case like he was going to The Supreme Court with it--and it is taking THIS kind of effort to make the difference. Below is an update, but also a glimpse of what SASS is up against in keeping park, park, and PARTICULARLY for RC SOARING! Sportfans, .. all those letters I asked you to write to the Redmond City Council and the Mayor? ... The City of Redmond is sponsoring a letter Tuesday night to __ :-) __ Ron Sims. ... Sims is really set in his ways. An appearance at this meeting may be more important than we all realize. ... If you appear, make sure that you sign in and take a copy of your letter with you and submit it if possible. [This clip helps you understand the issues faced and to help with your letters.] The group needs a speaker to state, there must be other better sites, We have been there for 30 years, We are good stewards of the site but will be forced to leave if the air space restrictions of the turd plant occur, there are no other places to fly in King County, Sailplanes and power planes do not mix and that we are there to protect the freeflight and rocket guys also. This is a 36 million demonstration facility and Duval is a better solution. --Sherman Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: This is a summary of the Boondoggle over the King County Department of Natural Resources attempt to put a human sewage treatment plant at 60 Acres Park, The Flying Field. The bottom line is that Paul Allen's golf course wants taxpayer subsidized water. King County Executive Ron Sims is in Paul Allen's pocket, and is cooperating in corrupt, Enron style, power games. Billionaire Paul Allen and his brother-in-law are co-owners of the Willows Run Golf Course, next to 60 Acres South Park. They want our flying site park turned into a human sewage water reclamation plant to water his golf course, so their golf course won't have to keep fighting the State Ecology Dept. over their efforts to stop it from pumping water out of the Samammish Slough. (The golf course uses 50 million gallons of water per year, water salmon need to spawn.) The golf course is the only customer in sight for the recycled water. But it doesn't want to pay for the plant. It only wants to buy less than half its water, at about half the rate for fresh water. It would pay about $60,000 per year (according to the February 22 Seattle Times article by Nick Perry.). That wouldn't even cover maintenance costs. It wouldn't touch the $2.2 million interest (at 6%) on the $37 million price tag for the plant. Metropolitan King County Councilwoman Kathy Lambert, whose district includes the golf course, said that the project is 'a very unnecessary boondoggle.' A test facility, to train workers ahead of the county's much larger $1.3 billion Brightwater sewage treatment plant, due to open in 2010, could be built elsewhere for much less,' she said, 'Paul Allen can afford to buy his water from anywhere he wants to, including Saudi Arabia if he chose,' Lambert said. 'We will never recoup the money. Never.' [posts by SASS member Philip R Patten [EMAIL PROTECTED] to Redmond City Council.] Another SASS member Vaughn Entwistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted: If this project is ever built, it will be an obvious candidate for a 'Golden Fleece Award.' Again from Sherman,Fellow soaring enthusiasts, Seattle is in danger of loosing its soaring site. The current field is approximately 15 acres of mowed grass, surrounded by a golf course, soccer fields and open field. It is about as perfect as it can get [and it is as crucial to keep this site as it was to hold out for Eagle Butte Torrey Pines]. The Seattle Area Soaring Society has been flying on this site since 1971. Ron Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] (vigorously resisting--vested interests showing--post a PROTEST!!) Kathy Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] (working vigorously to move or cancel the project--post a Thank You!) Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] THERMAL SOPARING
Lui you posted, I am new to thermal soaring and is trying to learn as much as I can about this magical way of getting lift. Check out Paul Naton's Everything you wanted to know about thermals. at: http://radiocarbonart.com/Pages/mainrca.html No problems here and same day shipping likely :-) !! Careful !! He has a shelf full of other videos, too, like, International Handlaunch and an endless series on lift ; don't miss the volume dicsounts. Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] RCSE ARCHIVES
I started archiving everything Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:59:29 -0600, and have a ton of archives from RCSE members when I put out a request for them (I've got back to Aug 2000). --Andrew E. Mileski Back to August 2000 an archive of RCSE !!?? In Japan we joke about the business, the store, the shop that puts up the sign or advertises Since 2001 without understanding the anomaly of it !!?? RCSE has around a nine year history. Happy New Year! CU many of you sometime-somewhere Summer USA--IHLGF;MidSouths;LSF/NATs :-) !! P.S. AND Thanks! to The MAN at M.A.N. Mike (and help, Lex) for your RC SOARING labor of love (for our FUN) RCSE !! P.S. What WAS the first RCSE posted date !!?? Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] OLD BIRD DISEASE
From: Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Gotta Love Ebay - off topic but airplane related Wow...a blast from the past! Back in 1973 this B-25 . . . wanted $3,000 . . . had the cash . . . backed out . . . here is my old bird again . . . just another junky old plane. --Mark Mark! You aren't supposed to touch dead birds--immune themselves, they are host to diseases that plague man. Seems the disease that you contracted is of a very unusual nature. SAD !! As I don't know of any possibility of a cure. There is a name for it though, Isthmus Disease and there is a page on the Internet that covers it http://www.isthmusmodels.com ; I would advise you go there and post them for help and regular updates so you know what model of the strain is the next to watch out for. It is really difficult for me to feel sorry for you--it is such a benefit to the rest of us, that YOU got it. While my sympathy for you is limited, I CAN empathize :-( , my own strain is under control right now! It is not a cure but it does make limited remission possible: NEGLECT !! Don't build, don't fly and don't drool over any flying related materials, magazines, pictures, plans or especially kits in the closet or hangar queens in the ceiling--uncharged batteries, Tx's laying in sight or birds waiting to go outside. Neglect is only a pacifier, read placebo, because remission is only temporary, stay up with RCSE or SAL or both--it makes you think you are still with it, or more correctly feel like you are still with it, while allowing you the luxury of carrying out your responsibilities--keeping your job, your conscience clean and the wife happy !! A Blessed HOLYday Season to you all and may the New Year, for all the ominous pending rather BE a Good One for the World of the FREE !! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] SOARING SITES IN CAROLINA
ARE THERE ANY SOARING SUITES IN NORTH OR SOUTH CAROLINA ? Try Kitty Hawk !! Couldn't resist-- or Jockey Ridge. Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] BOREDOM or NECESSITY
The best ones are the ones that think outside the box. Who came up with vacuum bagging, fiberglass fuselages, carbon fiber wing spars, winches, etc., etc. Trying something new is the root of our development to where we are today. Jack Womack I am thinking of someone who has a list of firsts after his name. For a couple Fullhouse RCHLG DS'ng DSL DSL!!?? Oh! that was Dick--not out of boredom, but necessity :-) !! P.S. I tried for years to entice my 2 sons into soaring in R/C and even full scale...to no avail. It isn't instantly gratifying, and that's what they want. That's too much thinking for 2 cents...that'll be 9.99 plus tax. JW Yah!! Amen! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO
[RCSE] SINK
WOW!! Sure glad RCSE finally got past the sink (Thanks! Mike-Lee)--that must have been some thermal that went through to have such a downer--I was in Outer Mongolia at the time; what did I miss :-) !! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ (dated) SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] KLINGBERG FLING THING
Yah! I know quite well that the Klingberg Fling Thing is one of the last Mohicans of the RCHLG oldies--1994; just goes to show how fast things have changed. I felt sorry for my ole'hobby shop man and took it off his shelf to help him out. Any idea what the airfoil on it is!!?? It ain't thin--Eppler 205 !!?? With two spars on the leading edge it looks like a well turbulated wing in addition to having two dihedral breaks after the center break for a neat looking wing. I would be considering dropping the tip down and building it as a DHL--and adding a sub rudder. Now another alternative would be to unload it to one of you collectors out there--I couldn't be adverse to that; I do have other projects on hand :-) !! However, I do like to build--you know birds with ribs and spars that emerge from clouds of balsa dust with see through wings . . . :-) Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] PILING ONE IN
Jim has done us a great service: Here is a web page that will help you make the right sound if you pile one in, in another country. http://www.diseaseworld.com/ouch/ouch.htm 8-)) Jim Downers Grove, IL The Japanese is right--just the cultural nuance is missing; or something, reality :-) !! Yes, ouch in Japanese is itai BUT the real life reaction is laugh and burn the results :-( !! I wonder if we have some other interesting different knee jerk reactions out there that are used to disguise the PAIN :-) !!?? Back at the hangar after another two weeks in Mongolia and . . . Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO
[RCSE] DYNAMIC SOARING FESTIVAL VIDEO
RE the DYNAMIC SOARING FESTIVAL VIDEO, I saw the original post, BUT no purchasing information--what did I miss :-) !!?? Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] WHY I LIKE INSTRUCTIONS
David J. Schat [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted, Why I like instructions! and quiche, too :-)!? Aside from all the things previously mentioned I like to read through the instructions first (several times) and visualize how a model goes together then it's time to start optimizing. I rarely follow instructions to the letter. I usually modify the order in which things go together to make the building easier and facilitate doing excellent craftsmanship. I also substitute materials regularly. I've built countless models in my life and really enjoy building. Do I need instructions to build a model? No. having instructions make it more ENJOYABLE! I know, I'm not a real man... I like quiche also ;- ) Sorry! If reposting bothers you--it ALWAYS does me--but maybe someone will have missed this excellent post.. AND I want to piggyback it and preach a bit :-) --NOT O.K. !!?? I have been a builder all my life--I remember in the Jimmy Allen era (AGAIN I reference Dave Thornburg's, Do You Speak Model Airplane? the story of aeromodeling in America a book of revelations, IF you don't know who Jimmey Allen was :-) cutting out--my first scratch build, at FIVE--a profile something like a P-40 and getting it all glued together. Later came sticks paper, later U-control, some rubber (motor) powered birds that REALLY flew, HLG, (an interlude of FULL scale sailplanes--and one big JASCO bird I put a Cox 0.10 on--a little under powered :-) , a LONG interlude of none and then RC ditty power and finally RCHLG now RCHLG-DHL :-) !! I do love to build and I build better than I fly--for sure! The point preacher , the point! Yah! Well, I am not as good at it as David :-) !! I could never have built most kits without the instructions and a built up without plans--almost impossible, though I have thought of trying it just for the doing. On a kit a number of you have built ( kitted and merchandized by a biggie--not anyone who has been a part of RCSE--and a has been now :-( I found one wing half a bay larger than the other when I kit bashed it :-) !!?? I love it when I read the disclaimer, These plans may have shrunk! Yah!! ESPECIALLY the Skeeter plans--just had to throw that in :-) !! WELL! Something sure shrank--I think it was the parts :-) ; cause the plans were bigger than the parts--I am rational!! The POINT!! Do you want to know what is wrong with the world--we threw out the instructor, the game plan and the instructions a long time back--an illustration I make from my modeling time to time--no designer, no purpose, no plan. . . ?! Do I need instructions to build a model? No. having instructions make it more ENJOYABLE! I know, I'm not a real man... I like quiche also ;- ) A box of balsa and some glue, a model don't make--and all the innate and learned matter still fall short of making Humpty Dumpty a flyer :-) again!? Well, Do I need instructions !? O.K. No, but no plans--don't think it is going to go together very fast or probably very well, but for SURE, having instructions make it more ENJOYABLE! and that part about the quiche !? Go figure :-) !! If you don't know who Jimmy Allen was you may not know what a Sky Pilot is either ;-) ! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] GREAT Northwest Regional RCHLG-DHL Contest SEP 14-15,02
FREE PR :-) !! I paid for my Chinook :-) !! You are welcome SASS--pay back time--Red!! Thanks! for a GREAT Northwest Regional RCHLG-DHL Contest! I was only sorry I could only make the first day of the competition and missed appearing in Endless Lift III, I mean the DHL short ala'Paul Naton :-) !! . . . here are the dates for HLG in Seattle: September 14 and 15 (BIG two day Contest, definitely mark this one on your calendars for a road trip!!!) Contests will begin at 9am rain or shine at 60-Acres Park. September 2-day will require preliminary registration (details coming soon). See SASS's website for details: www.reddata.com/sass Thermals, RED [or to be politically correct :-) , Adam Weston, Seattle, WA] I wanted to PIGGY-BACK RED's post to emphasis the significance of this GREAT Northwest REGIONAL RCHLG-DHL contest. This is NO ISOLATED CORNER of the RC Soaring RCHLG-DHL movement-activity!! This is a CENTER of the action, independent cooperative--THE source OF DHL-SAL-THL ala'Phil-Dick-etera! They also have one of the BEST FLYING SITES in the land--let alone being in the most beautiful corner of our ole'U.S.A. (please forgive my prejudice as a Northwesterner myself) !! Last years contest was WELL RUN! and the WELCOME was most FRIENDLY! Most quotable QUOTE from IHLGF 2001: It was a lot more FUN when I was the only one doing it :-) !! Dick Barker. These guys all have been regular and infectious (IHLGF 2001 99.9% DHL) participants everywhere in our RCHLG-DHL world and NOW they are giving us another GREAT REGIONAL!! A New Yorker was there this last year or was it Pennsylvania--also Midwest participants--a good showing considering the distance for any but Northwesterners, BUT it deserves a GREAT showing--double, triple--if you are a true RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO you will SERIOUSLY consider putting this one on your calendar until you make it :-) !! P.S. The MidSouth Championship's RCHLG-DHL contest could have been better attended--down probably because they left out HL Golf :-(; they said they were going to do it just for me--go figure, all the way from Japan :-) --this IS a major regional that should not be missed as well :-) !! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] REMOVING OLD COVERING
From MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I have an old Windfree that came to earth awhile back as a meteor and I am having difficulty removing a bunch of the old covering off of the wing. Is there a trick to getting it all off easily? Picking and scraping with an exacto knife is taking forever... Thanks, MM What's the trick to removing old covering!!?? Michael!! It is so simple--never mind it took me a while to discover it for myself :-) !! Now don't feel too foolish!! BUT!! IF you are removing old covering, I ASSUME (dangerous) you are also planning to recover--is my assumption warranted :-) !!?? IF not ignore the following :-) !! IF so!! Take your covering iron and iron it off--heat and pull :-) !! You may end up with some of the film color on the airframe, but small penalty; it should peel off nicely for you! I use to rebuild crashed birds of friends being on a low budget--those were power days; BUT my present project is a rebuild of the classic Hobie Hawk ala'gracias-Bacus (last Christmas) and formerly a Gordy Bird--it shall soar again!! Also, have a 3M nostalgia hangar queen rebuild of a Japanese Hasegawa 3200 mm Reiher. The above process will also allow you to save decals, etc, with some ease if desired :-) ! NOW! Put away the Xacto knife, get out the iron and with an ole'one-two remove and recover and get flying--to the FUN part!! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE]
We received this warning today. Please check your hard drives. We found one on both the C and the D hard drives. Paul and Rickie Just received the following warning from fellow missionaries who had sent us an email prior to my sending one to yours. Please check out the following for the sake of your files... ~David === We received this from a friend and now we're sending it along to everyone in our address book, because we found this virus in our computer too. It doesn't make itself known in any way that we can detect, and the Norton Anti Virus program apparently misses it. Follow these instructions and you should have no problem. -- Sorry to do this to you, but a friend sent my a virus by accident. Chances are, you all have it because I checked to see if I did, and I did. It transfers to who ever is in your address book. It lies dormant for 14 days, then kills your hard drive. Here is how to stop it. If you've got it (i.e. if you find the indicated file), send this to everyone in your address book for their sake. 1. Go to start-then to 'find or search' 2. In the 'search for files or folders' type in: sulfnbk.exe??? This is the virus file. 3. In the look in make sure you're searching drive C 4. hit 'Search' button (or Find) 5. If this file shows up (it's an ugly, blackish icon that will have the name: sulfnbk.exe) DO NOT OPEN IT! 6. Right click on the file - go down to delete and left click (Or simply hold the Shift button down and press the Del/Delete key; then you're done. If you just press the Del/Delete key, then go to step 7.) 7. It will ask if you want to send it to the recycle bin.---say yes 8. Go to your desktop (where all your icons are) and double click on the recycle bin. If you don't find the recycle bin icon there, go to My Computer and find the recycle bin icon for drive C and open it. 9. Right click on sulfnbkexe and delete again or just empty the recycle bin. If you find this file..send this email to everyone in your address book, because that's how it's transferred. Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Nats .. ; TOO BUSY . . .
. . . for RCSE!!?? Don't think this was your first post on the thread :-) !!?? Jim you said, Kind of a shotgun post of comments, but I haven't been able to respond to the thread as it unwound. Don't know how else you could respond to the thread :-) !! I will make Muncie if the date is right with my itinerary--even to just observe if I can't make the RCHLG-DHL dates and participate; I have :-) ! Seems someone should take the bull by the horns and have a national symposium on the subject for the sake of U.S. RC soaring--at Muncie of course. We have never had a thread take RCSE (the Skeeter thread might be close or landing vs flying) quite like this and yet while staying on topic and around the stove, not a flame war. Sounds like a legitimate discussion, enough people involved (contestant participants)--why not take it to a next level. It would be very difficult to synthesize all the opinion shared this time around--not the first time the thread has appeared like a happy/virus; it is perennial to be sure. The heat/smoke is evidence enough that there is something about something that something can be done about--somebody from We the people!? Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] FLIGHT 587 and R/C MODELS
As will be remembered last year Gary Levitz lost his life in the spectacular breakup and crash--with the props still turning--of Miss Ashley II !! With our R/C gliders we know how deadly flutter can be to a model. It is understandable how flutter likely took apart the elevator and the subsequent porposing caused the wings to fold. Now we have major failure of components in a jet airliner, Flight 587, leading to the tragic crash and loss of life. Turbulence! Fractured fin, subsequent rudder flutter--the rudder separates from the fin--all resulting in major component failure!!?? Has any one else had such a thought!? Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Joe Bridi TERCEL
Will it fly!? It is one of the birds I built for my son and after a few years air time in Japan, I re-modeled it :-) for him and he has it in the states!! It was done in see-through red and black trim--he appeared with it in Model Builder. Yes, as already noted, it IS a kick on the slope, but at a TPGs' Poway field visit we skied it out so many times we wondered how the guys who fly there got so good--it was too easy :-) !! Wish I could have done so well at my IHLGF times!! Some time back Gyros in L.A. bought out someone's remaining stock (which we learned about here on RCSE) and they were gracious enough to send one out to me!! I look forward to building it with the gear load available now that weighs less than the battery we flew with earlier!! I will build it with a V shaped fuselage which the design lends itself to (discovered from its much flying time);I would see no reason to cut wings for a build or try to change airfoils. ALL of the negative Skeeter thread about kit bashing applies here--go get something else to build or build scratch :-) !! My son loved to launch it with a snap roll at the top--she is a cute little ship. We flew her light slope a lot and into the dark--believe me, being red and black, at dusk she could really disorient the pilot :-) !! Nothing but special memories from this little bridi!! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] BUILT-UP BENTWINGS
Monkey King [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted, Actually, I started with bamboo. Advanced materials do not equal an advanced modeler; you have to start where you understand. Learning about wood vs. bamboo, built up vs. solid wings, etc. gives you a real understanding of what you want out of a material. I grew up in Japan, but I was already into modeling. I had been an unsuccessful builder of a number of Cleveland and Comet kits until Strut-To-Speed came along--one of my young adult pleasures was to bring a kid across from my college campus past the same disappointment to being a successful builder. We put a Cox .10 on the front of something he got together and we flew it out of sight. Growing up in Japan, bamboo was a prime material and I learned so much from the simple models we would build--one stick for a fuse and the rest bamboo, covering tissue a propeller, a rubber motor . . . one summer as my boys were coming along I gathered the left overs from fireworks--a stick some bamboo, took some tissue, a propeller and rubber for a motor . . . It flew great and I still have the little guy hanging in my ceiling as a remembrance of my boys. Time to time, I wonder, why not bamboo :-) !? Why NOT!!?? And I turn to the bamboo! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] . . . the P-38 ISSUE . . .
From MSu-jaffee, Boeing will survive . . . Lockheed would probably not have, and the resulting loss of expertise, knowledge/ability base, plus a second source for competitive bidding... all those things were too precious to the industry's future to lose . . . AND Joe would have lost his job. . . . , no matter which plane was better. Didn't even have to have performance ratings to KNOW which was better ! What kind of PSS would the X-32 have turned out to be :-) !!?? Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] The NEW STATE of the ART of RCHLG
I am not aware that anyone has posted a reference to the four pages of material and e-mails prepared by the Eastern Iowa Soaring Society on Wing Launching of RCHLG. It may be seen at: http://eiss.cnde.iastate.edu/articles/discus.shtml Ed Harris, Editor of the Eastern Iowa Soaring Society newsletter, posted that the February issue is available as a pdf file at: http://eiss.cnde.iastate.edu/ CU at the 2001 Worlds ala'IHLGF, the MidSouths and SASS and along the way . . . Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan (AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO
[RCSE] MARK ALLEN's FALCONs NOT BRIAN's BANSHEEs
Buddy Roos [EMAIL PROTECTED] the NASA guru posted, "How many of you remember the NATS (1991 or 1992) where Brian Agnew took First Place in the TWO-METER, STANDARD, and OPEN CLASS flying a Two Meter BANSHEE?" SORRY, Buddy :-( !! YES!! You left out one, He took tops at ALL FOUR CLASSES at the 1991 NATS, BUT in CLASS A (RCHLG) with his "Vertigo" design--I have the wing from that ship!! In CLASS B (2 meter) flying a Flite Lite Falcon 600; in CLASS C (100 inch Standard) flying a Flite Lite Falcon 800; in CLASS D (Unlimited) flying a Flite Lite Composites 880--FALCONs ALL, the BANSHEE did not exist yet :-) !!. Bill Forrey wrote, Model Builder Nov'91, "I can't remember when any flier in any other Nats has won all four classes. I doubt it has ever happened. No wonder Brian teamed up with Mark Allen; it's a marketing plot to conquer the competitive soaring world! Be that as it may, it is still the PILOT who controls the model, and not the other way around, so congratulations, Brian!" P.S. Buddy! This didn't start out as a put down :-) nor is it one now, but I remember how much a "Vertigo" FANATIC you were and I observed that you had left out VERTIGO from, "A BANSHEE and Brian Agnew fan, Buddy Roos!!!" Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] CONTESTS and LSF LEVELS
Paul Ferguson posted to Jim Thomas in regards to 'Contests and LSF Levels,'
"Perhaps we need to leave the existing levels alone and add parallel
'non-contest' levels with more challenging tasks."
SOUNDS LIKE!! LSF AWARDS with a nasty " * " attached to me :-) !! Maybe,
Paul, as a disinterested party you could help the judges somewhere USA come
up with a scientific way to divine dimples :-) !
Sorry! I couldn't resist :-) !! I plan to compete in one international and
two national or regional contests in a busman's holiday to my Homeland
U.S.A. next summer. Is this language lost on you!? It means having FUN
while you are on business! What is the difference between what I will be
engaged in and Gordy!? With Gordy the FUN comes first :-) !! God is MY
boss!! My criteria for participation is similarly expressed as a principle
through the use of reiteration as is the laws of investing in real
estate (1. Location; 2) Location; 3) Location!!!). Expressly, "1) FUN; 2)
FUN; 3) FUN; 4) FUN !", the first LAW of RC Soaring instituted and
established by JW! I don't expect to win a thing this summer but new
friends--I will try harder, flying in the Eagle Class at the IHLGF, but
RCHLG pilots are getting older (fortunately Joe is still too young to
compete against me) and the competition is gett'n tougher at my (age) level
:-) ! Not that it didn't start out that way, the first year of the Eagle
Class ('98) I had to fly against the TPG's Scharck and Don Richmond. Still
as the AWAY Champ, GRACIOUS Ron (not to be confused with Don) awarded the
First Place Plaque to me which I proudly display; the NEAREST I will
probably EVER get to anything like it!? My third place the same year at
the MidSouths in HL Golf against the likes of Jim Bacus-Bruce Davidson
Company didn't get me a thing besides hearing my name blared out with a
bullhorn--and I ran the whole course; I think they mentioned that--I
thought I at least deserved a JR or Futaba decal!! Go figure :-) !!
It has been a long while since this thread has made the round--so be
it! As one who had hoped for a career in aviation and passed from true HL
gliders (NOT to be confused with RCHLG) and hand tow gliders with
dethermalizers to full scale while in college, I of course became
acquainted with the FAI international soaring awards. When I was drawn
into RC Soaring I soon became acquainted with the LSF program and
recognized the value of it for the RC Soaring enthusiast. I began my own
effort to bring it to Japan and later was ready to help one of our Japanese
glider-guiders (a better idea) establish it here. Except for the initial
phases, however, it is not a realistic program for Japan! None the less,
any changing of the rules would tarnish its metal!
As Rob Glover posted:
"The LSF is Not going to change it's program.
The LSF is Not going to change it's program.
The LSF is Not going to change it's program."
"Got it? Good." AMEN :-) and "Congratulations!!" to all the Level fives
out there!!
Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1)
http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/
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[RCSE] F4U CORSAIR GAB PLUS
Bill Johns wrote: Also, I believe it was unique as a propeller driven plane in shooting down a jet a Mig 15 in one-on-one combat. (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong here.) Brett posted, "Not sure about the Corsair, but I think a New Zealand or Australian Sea Fury did this as well (not sure what kind of MiG it was)." It is a violation to post all these, "I think I am right!" posts you know!! Here is two-bits on your dollar!! A Mig was downed by a Mustang pilot. The Sea Fury came along too late for the Korean conflict as did the Bearcat. Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] OLYMPIC PARTICIPATION
O.K. Steve you done did it!! "Jeez look at the Equine events." Steve Meyer See!! "Ok, I can tell that you have never been horseback riding before." David Smerza . . . AND you had the audacity to send your post to Tom Nagel!!?? BOY!! You ARE a masochist--must be rich, too, posting that equestrian Legal Nagel!! He is going to suit you up for something and I don't think it will be the Olympics :-) !! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] THE GREAT WindGate SERIES
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:20:48 -0700 From: Scott Hewett [EMAIL PROTECTED] " . . . knowing what a "Maverick" that Paul Naton can be . . . I'm waiting to see who will be the first to fly AND film a glider sloping the West side guard rail on the Golden Gate from one shore to the other. . . What say there Paul, howzabout pulling this one off with one of the many truly talented guys you know? The real Seagulls do it all the time. You'll have to come up with a better name than Nixon did thoughWhat about "WindGate"???" Scott "I get to watch" Hewett AH! Ha!! We have seen the gauntlet thrown down here before, BUT this one does have the ~RING~ of reality about it--good for another Naton best seller--have shipped under and flown over and done the four wheel crawl across the Golden Gate. When you get this bridge done Paul, I have the longest bridges in the world over here for you to try--could be the beginning of the GREAT "WindGate" series: "WindGate" I, "WindGate" II, . . . Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] ULTIMATE BOOMER SHADES
Rob Crockett, [EMAIL PROTECTED] , Grass Valley, Ca posted, "All kidding aside, this use of the existing polarization of the background sky has real potential in R/C soaring, not only for seeing your plane, but also for seeing thermals." Quite a post Rob :-) !! We know Joe has especially developed ability with thermals, but Jo Joy really sees thermals and does amazing things for George (where was she IHLGF this year, George)!! Now tell me, we know a kind of eye (eyes) that is not so normal to most of us has made good baseball hitters. IS there such an explanation for Jo's natural ability to actually SEE thermals--on a regular basis. Can you speak as authoritatively about that!? No hokey here--Jo is for real and the question begs an answer :-) ! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www3.osk.3web.ne.jp/~pclark/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] ON GIVING--TIS MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN COMPLAIN
"Jim! Its really disheartening to hear that people feel that way. I have always appreciated your web page and your inputs here on the exchange. Some people make an attempt to give something back to the hobby, others are content to leech or complain. . . " Michael, Melbourne, Australia Jim! From the time you discovered RCSE you have been a REAL giver here and when we met I found out that IS Jim; and the contests we flew in together were that much more fun because of the Jim you are :-) !! I had no idea about the negative responses until after my post; I was responding because I was excited I could go into your page and not worry about line time--and catch the NATs!! With cable I had no waiting after the page came up--simply scrolled through :-) ! Couldn't believe all the time you spent scanning and adding to your page! Michael here has said it as well as any. I am always TRYing to give back--it kinda makes the hobby expensive sometimes and does not always come with the hoped for or expected results :-( !! RC SOARING--RCHLG, RCSD, RCSE, SEM, QFI have given me so much :-) over the last several years, I can't imagine--yes I can--what it would have been without it! YOU are ONE of those MANY *special* friends I would never have made around the world and especially across the United States otherwise--I display my SOAR patch proudly in my hangar :-) !! Next time we will do more than drop by your hangar, we WILL make time to FLY from YOUR territory :-) !! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www3.osk.3web.ne.jp/~pclark/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] MANNY TAU
Can someone help me with an updated address for Manny Tau!? My questions to him might have an answer here so: Manny! I bought a Rubber Ducky from you at Visalia in 1995. I finally fitted it on my JR 347 only to realize it probably was tuned for 40MHz and I was flying 72MHz. I range checked and sure enough a hundred feet or so was all I could get out of it :-) ! Questions: Was the antenna I purchased indeed a 40 MHz Rubber Ducky!!?? There is nothing on the packaging to tell me. Are you aware if there ARE 72 MHz Rubber Ducky's available that I could simply interchange them with the model I purchased from you!!?? Hey!! Thanks! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www3.osk.3web.ne.jp/~pclark/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] ON GIVING--TIS MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN COMPLAIN :-)
"Jim! Its really disheartening to hear that people feel that way. I have always appreciated your web page and your inputs here on the exchange. Some people make an attempt to give something back to the hobby, others are content to leech or complain. . . " Michael, Melbourne, Australia Jim! From the time you discovered RCSE you have been a REAL giver here and when we met I found out that IS Jim; and the contests we flew in together were that much more fun because of the Jim you are :-) !! I had no idea about the negative responses until after my post; I was responding because I was excited I could go into your page and not worry about line time--and catch the NATs!! With cable I had no waiting after the page came up--simply scrolled through :-) ! Couldn't believe all the time you spent scanning and adding to your page! Michael here has said it as well as any. I am always TRYing to give back--it kinda makes the hobby expensive sometimes and does not always come with the hoped for or expected results :-( !! RC SOARING--RCHLG, RCSD, RCSE, SEM, QFI have given me so much :-) over the last several years, I can't imagine--yes I can--what it would have been without it! YOU are ONE of those MANY *special* friends I would never have made around the world and especially across the United States otherwise--I display my SOAR patch proudly in my hangar :-) !! Next time we will do more than drop by your hangar, we WILL make time to FLY from YOUR territory :-) !! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www3.osk.3web.ne.jp/~pclark/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] CRACKPOTS ET AL HTML USERS
Got your ATTENTION!!?? Sky Pilot has a NEW address as above or [EMAIL PROTECTED] !! GREAT pics, Jim! Cable! Makes it possible to enjoy ! Brian, you ole'dude you--good to see you here :-) !! AND FINALLY!! You HTML users, you abuse the group, it ain't netiquette here, i.e. against the rule you agreed to abide by in joining this group!! I have not the time to go through the messed up RCSE Digests that come in after one of you posts a message; I have to simply hit delete when a HTML message hits the fan--it IS a MESS! This house is state of the art so don't give me any dribble :-) !! First offenders duly informed; repeaters!!?? Shame on you!! Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1) http://www3.osk.3web.ne.jp/~pclark/skypilot/ SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
