Re: Backing up email
FDVS wrote: How can this be done? Right now I find the folder buried deep inside the computer that contains the Mail and save that. Even with that saved, it is not easily decoded. Thanks Dave The main reason I use seamonkey is that it allows you to store your profiles in a folder that you designate. When making up a new user, select the option to browse to the location where you want to profile stored. I would keep this data off of the C:, or system partition, so that you will not lose your email and browser data if your OS ever needs to be reinstalled. Now you will have all of your data (email, browser bookmarks, etc) for each profile in their own folders. All you need to do is to backup each folder as you would normally do for your data backup. I run a nightly backup of all of my data, including these profile folders. If you ever need to reinstall your OS, or move to a new computer, it is not that difficult to re-import these folders to your new setup. It is still harder than I think it should be, but it is reasonable to do and much better than the risk of losing everything. The mozbackup program mentioned, compress your entire profile into a single file and is very good for moving to a new computer, or if you know you are going to reinstall. I don't think it is suitable for frequent backups like the daily ones I do here. As mentioned, you really should have a frequent backup of all of your data files, and also a backup of your overall system. I use system images (clonezilla) to make backup images of my OS and apps partition/drive, and then use rsync to do a daily backup of my data. This is easier if your file system is set up to keep a clear divide between data and OS/apps. Post back if you want more complete instructions on how to do any of this. If you don't currently have your profile in it's own folder somewhere off of the C: drive, you can use mozbackup to do that. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
more information needed with password error
Hello, I have a SM account that I use to manage 11 different email addresses, all on the same domain. Occasionally, I get an error message like this one, Sending of password did not succeed. Mail server pop.bizmail.yahoo.com responded: internal server error (#OCF013) or something similar. The messages are for one of the 11 accounts, but there is no information at all as to which one. This makes the error message almost completely useless and I often have to spend allot of time trying to figure out which email address is not receiving mail. Would it be so difficult to add the username that was being used for login when the attempt to login to pop failed? Also, I have looked in my password manager and find that there is no entry for a couple of my addresses (I use a master password and there are both pop and smtp passwords in the manager for each email address). I don't see how this is possible, since I have used this setup for several years. How would I have been collecting mail without a password for each account? Where did the password entries go for these accounts that are now missing an entry? I am not getting a prompt to enter a password as I would expect if there was not one in the manager. The entries that are there are also not consistent. Most of the entries have the domain as part of the username, which is necessary for yahoo. Some do not have the domain listed in the datamanager, even though the domain is clearly part of the username under server settings. This is version 2.9.1 running under XP if that helps. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: more information needed with password error
I will check out the bug note mentioned by David and see if this is the same issue. I have SM set to automatically check for new mail when I open a user account (I have 4 user accounts, some that manage multiple addresses). Since there are 11 email addressed managed in this particular account, it takes a minute or so to check new messages for all of them. After that, SM checks for new messages every 10 minutes. I used to have it set to every 1 minute, but a yahoo tech told me that there are issues that can happen with the server if you check to often. So for each address, there is a login to the pop server using the email address (with domain) and the password from the password manager. I guess my question is why that email address login is not included in the error message. Shouldn't the error message be something more like, Sending of password did not succeed for: myemailaddr...@yahoo.com Mail server pop.bizmail.yahoo.com responded: internal server error (#OCF013) Occasionally I have to call yahoo to get these things sorted out and it would be much easier if I knew which email was the issue, and even if it is the same account every time. I understand that the error itself has nothing to do with SM, but more information is usually preferable to less where error messages are concerned. I understand that I can figure out which account is the problem if I go through one at a time and see if I can trigger the error, but wouldn't a well formed set of error traps provide that information in the first place? The process would be even more complicated if the issue is not consistently with the same login address. LMH Paul B. Gallagher wrote: LMH wrote: Hello, I have a SM account that I use to manage 11 different email addresses, all on the same domain. Occasionally, I get an error message like this one, Sending of password did not succeed. Mail server pop.bizmail.yahoo.com responded: internal server error (#OCF013) or something similar. The messages are for one of the 11 accounts, but there is no information at all as to which one. This makes the error message almost completely useless and I often have to spend a lot of time trying to figure out which email address is not receiving mail. Would it be so difficult to add the username that was being used for login when the attempt to login to pop failed? ... With only a handful of accounts, I have an easy solution; it gets harder as you get up into double digits. I'm assuming you use CTRL-SHIFT-D to get mail for all accounts at once, or else that you have the server settings for the various accounts configured so SM automatically gets mail at specified intervals. To identify the problem account, place the cursor in any of the mail folders for the first account (or else on the account name in the folder pane), and do CTRL-D to get mail for that account only. If no error, repeat for the second account. If no error, repeat for the third account. Etc. For 11 accounts this should take a minute or two unless you have a very slow (dialup) connection. The server error you report should resolve itself within a short time anyway (assuming the ISP is competent), so unless you're trying to send or receive an urgent message, the easy answer is to wait a few minutes. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: question about sessions, cookies, and permissions
Michael Ströder wrote: NFN Smith wrote: LMH wrote: Also, my cookie permissions seem to be disappearing. I use google as my home page. When I open my browser, I get a prompt to set a cookie. I select, allow for session, and check the use every time check box, but every time I open my browser I get the same prompt asking if that cookie can be set. I also get a cookie request from id.google.com. I set this to block and use every time, but I get that request ever time I open my browser as well. This one appears to be a problem in both Firefox 17 and Seamonkey 2.14. Upgrade to 2.14.1 fixed the cookie permission issues for me. Ciao, Michael. That's good to hear, hopefully this will go back to normal when I upgrade. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
bookmarks toolbar is missing my folders
Yesterday I closed some of the toolbars at the top of the browser to create additional vertical space. I did this by clicking on the little down arrow at the far left of each toolbar. Today when I started up and reopened these, but my bookmarks tool bar only has Home, Adblock Plus, and Bookmarks. There are several other folders and bookmarks that should be on this bar, but they are not there. If I look under bookmarks bookmarks toolbar, I see all of the bookmarks and folders that are supposed to be there, but they don't appear on the toolbar anymore. Is there any way to recover this? It is pretty inconvenient, since there was a reason those bookmarks were on that toolbar to begin with. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: bookmarks toolbar is missing my folders
Rob wrote: LMH domain@invalid wrote: Yesterday I closed some of the toolbars at the top of the browser to create additional vertical space. I did this by clicking on the little down arrow at the far left of each toolbar. Today when I started up and reopened these, but my bookmarks tool bar only has Home, Adblock Plus, and Bookmarks. There are several other folders and bookmarks that should be on this bar, but they are not there. If I look under bookmarks bookmarks toolbar, I see all of the bookmarks and folders that are supposed to be there, but they don't appear on the toolbar anymore. Is there any way to recover this? It is pretty inconvenient, since there was a reason those bookmarks were on that toolbar to begin with. Your bookmark settings getting lost has nothing to do with collapsing the bookmark toolbar. It must have happened for another reason. In manage bookmarks you can restore your bookmarks to an earlier backup (which is made automatically). Well whatever happened, it un-happened a few minutes ago when I opened that profile again and things look that same again. It's nice to know about the bookmark restore points though. Thanks, LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: question about sessions, cookies, and permissions
Daniel wrote: LMH wrote: Daniel wrote: Snip The use every time check box refers to the cookie permission rule and not to the cookie itself. When you have cookie expiration set to ask for each cookie, a prompt box appears every time a site tries to set a cookie. There are three buttons to choose from. 1. allow 2. allow for session 3. block There is also a check box use my choice for all cookies from this site If you check the use my choice for all cookies from this site check box, a rule is created in the data manager under the domain that attempted to set the cookie. If you select allow and use for all, you will never get asked again. Every time you go to that site, the rule is applied instead of prompting you for what to do. If you look in your cookie manager, you will find hundreds of rules for domains. Most of these are set to block a site from setting cookies. It is these rules that seem to be Disappearing. If I close SM and open it again, when I open my browser I find no cookie rule for the google domain what so ever. There is a never save passwords rule, but nothing for cookies. If I go to google and select allow for session and use for all, there will be an entry in the cookie manager showing this rule. If I close SM and open again, the rule is gone and I have to manually set the cookie permissions for google again. This is absolutely new behavior. I have been using SM since it was mozilla, and ever since session cookies were introduced, I have been doing things more or less the same way. Even if I manually add a rule in the data manager, it is not there after I close and reopen SM. It is the cookies that expire at the end of the session, not the rules you create for cookie permissions. LMH LMH, the only thing (to me) then is that your changes are not being saved!! Could you check to see if some file in your set-up/profile is set to Read Only?? Maybe Prefs.js or thereabouts!! I checked the Prefs.js file and it is not set to read only. Below is the ls -l of the profile directory (from cygwin). There appears to be read/write/execute for everything in this directory. I'm leaning toward this being a bug in 2.14. LMH drwxr-xr-x+ adblockplus drwxr-xr-x+ bookmarkbackups drwx--+ Cache drwx--+ extensions drwxr-xr-x+ 2012 Mail drwxr-xr-x+ minidumps drwx--+ mozilla-media-cache drwxr-xr-x+ News drwxr-xr-x+ OfflineCache drwxr-xr-x+ signature_files drwx--+ startupCache -rwx--+ _CACHE_CLEAN_ -rwxr-xr-x+ 25692183.s -rwxr-xr-x+ abook.mab -rwxr-xr-x+ abook-1.mab -rwxr-xr-x+ abook-2.mab -rwxr-xr-x+ abook-3.mab -rwxr-xr-x+ abook-4.mab -rwx--+ adblockplus-rules.json -rwxr-xr-x+ addons.sqlite -rwx--+ blocklist.xml -rwxr-xr-x+ bookmarks.html -rwxr-xr-x+ cert8.db -rwxr-xr-x+ chromeappsstore.sqlite -rwxr-xr-x+ compatibility.ini -rwxr-xr-x+ content-prefs.sqlite -rwx--+ cookies.sqlite -rwx--+ cookies.sqlite-shm -rwx--+ cookies.sqlite-wal -rwx--+ directoryTree.json -rwx--+ extensions.ini -rwx--+ extensions.sqlite -rwxr-xr-x+ formhistory.sqlite -rwx--+ global-messages-db.sqlite -rwxr-xr-x+ history.mab -rwxr-xr-x+ hostperm.1 -rwxr-xr-x+ impab.mab -rwxr-xr-x+ junklog.html -rwxr-xr-x+ key3.db -rwx--+ localstore.rdf -rwxr-xr-x+ mailViews.dat -rwx--+ mimeTypes.rdf -rwx--+ NoScriptSTS.db -rwxr-xr-x+ NoScriptSTS.db.tmp -rwxr-xr-x+ NoScriptSTS.db-1.tmp -rwxr-xr-x+ panacea.dat -rwxr-xr-x+ panels.rdf -rwx--+ parent.lock -rwxr-xr-x+ permissions.sqlite -rwxr-xr-x+ persdict.dat -rwxr-xr-x+ places.sqlite -rwx--+ places.sqlite-shm -rwx--+ places.sqlite-wal -rwx--+ pluginreg.dat -rwx--+ prefs.js -rwxr-xr-x+ prefs.zal -rwxr-xr-x+ purchasing.txt -rwxr-xr-x+ search.json -rwxr-xr-x+ search.rdf -rwxr-xr-x+ search.sqlite -rwx--+ search-metadata.json -rwxr-xr-x+ secmod.db -rwxr-xr-x+ signons.sqlite -rwxr-xr-x+ signons3.txt -rwxr-xr-x+ training.dat -rwxr-xr-x+ traits.dat -rwx--+ virtualFolders.dat -rwxr-xr-x+ webappsstore.sqlite ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: question about sessions, cookies, and permissions
Daniel wrote: LMH wrote: Richard Tasker wrote: LMH wrote: What exactly constitutes a session? When I open seamonkey, I have it set to open the email window. If I open the browser window, close the browser, and open it again, it would appear that this is still the same session. Session only cookies are still present, even though the browser has been opened and closed. Is it necessary to close the entire SM application, or switch users, to create a new session? Also, my cookie permissions seem to be disappearing. I use google as my home page. When I open my browser, I get a prompt to set a cookie. I select, allow for session, and check the use every time check box, but every time I open my browser I get the same prompt asking if that cookie can be set. I also get a cookie request from id.google.com. I set this to block and use every time, but I get that request ever time I open my browser as well. LMH You do have to close everything to end a session. RET Any idea as to why my cookie permissions are disappearing? If I click on allow for session and use every time, I still get these prompts the next time I visit the site (if I have closed out SM between visits). I looked in the cookie permissions and the entry for the domain is missing. 1. open SM and log into a profile 2. open the browser 3. go to google.com 4. I get a permission request to set a cookie 5. select allow for session and use every time 6. these permissions are now in the data manager under google.com 7. close seamonkey 8. open SM and log into a profile 9. open the browser 10. open the data manager 11. there is no longer any cookie permissions entry for google.com 12. go to google.com 13. same cookie requests as before It would appear is if the cookie permissions are being deleted when the session cookie expires, which defeated the purpose of use every time. This is happening with sites other than google as well. My overall settings under Preferences Privacy and Security are, Allow cookies from originating site only Ask for each cookie, except session cookies This page has changed a bit over time. I would like to be prompted for each cookie, but I would like the permissions to stay in place so I don't have to re-set them every time I visit every site. This has always worked well, so either something has changed and I don't understand the settings, or there is a bug. LMH LMH, it seems to me that whilst you have any part of SeaMonkey open, then a session cookie should still be in force...but, then again, as cookies only apply in the browser (I think), maybe a session is only whilst the browser is open!! If you are accepting a cookie for a session only, what can you use every time?? The next time you go there, there is nothing to use!! The use every time check box refers to the cookie permission rule and not to the cookie itself. When you have cookie expiration set to ask for each cookie, a prompt box appears every time a site tries to set a cookie. There are three buttons to choose from. 1. allow 2. allow for session 3. block There is also a check box use my choice for all cookies from this site If you check the use my choice for all cookies from this site check box, a rule is created in the data manager under the domain that attempted to set the cookie. If you select allow and use for all, you will never get asked again. Every time you go to that site, the rule is applied instead of prompting you for what to do. If you look in your cookie manager, you will find hundreds of rules for domains. Most of these are set to block a site from setting cookies. It is these rules that seem to be Disappearing. If I close SM and open it again, when I open my browser I find no cookie rule for the google domain what so ever. There is a never save passwords rule, but nothing for cookies. If I go to google and select allow for session and use for all, there will be an entry in the cookie manager showing this rule. If I close SM and open again, the rule is gone and I have to manually set the cookie permissions for google again. This is absolutely new behavior. I have been using SM since it was mozilla, and ever since session cookies were introduced, I have been doing things more or less the same way. Even if I manually add a rule in the data manager, it is not there after I close and reopen SM. It is the cookies that expire at the end of the session, not the rules you create for cookie permissions. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
question about sessions, cookies, and permissions
What exactly constitutes a session? When I open seamonkey, I have it set to open the email window. If I open the browser window, close the browser, and open it again, it would appear that this is still the same session. Session only cookies are still present, even though the browser has been opened and closed. Is it necessary to close the entire SM application, or switch users, to create a new session? Also, my cookie permissions seem to be disappearing. I use google as my home page. When I open my browser, I get a prompt to set a cookie. I select, allow for session, and check the use every time check box, but every time I open my browser I get the same prompt asking if that cookie can be set. I also get a cookie request from id.google.com. I set this to block and use every time, but I get that request ever time I open my browser as well. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: question about sessions, cookies, and permissions
Richard Tasker wrote: LMH wrote: What exactly constitutes a session? When I open seamonkey, I have it set to open the email window. If I open the browser window, close the browser, and open it again, it would appear that this is still the same session. Session only cookies are still present, even though the browser has been opened and closed. Is it necessary to close the entire SM application, or switch users, to create a new session? Also, my cookie permissions seem to be disappearing. I use google as my home page. When I open my browser, I get a prompt to set a cookie. I select, allow for session, and check the use every time check box, but every time I open my browser I get the same prompt asking if that cookie can be set. I also get a cookie request from id.google.com. I set this to block and use every time, but I get that request ever time I open my browser as well. LMH You do have to close everything to end a session. RET Any idea as to why my cookie permissions are disappearing? If I click on allow for session and use every time, I still get these prompts the next time I visit the site (if I have closed out SM between visits). I looked in the cookie permissions and the entry for the domain is missing. 1. open SM and log into a profile 2. open the browser 3. go to google.com 4. I get a permission request to set a cookie 5. select allow for session and use every time 6. these permissions are now in the data manager under google.com 7. close seamonkey 8. open SM and log into a profile 9. open the browser 10. open the data manager 11. there is no longer any cookie permissions entry for google.com 12. go to google.com 13. same cookie requests as before It would appear is if the cookie permissions are being deleted when the session cookie expires, which defeated the purpose of use every time. This is happening with sites other than google as well. My overall settings under Preferences Privacy and Security are, Allow cookies from originating site only Ask for each cookie, except session cookies This page has changed a bit over time. I would like to be prompted for each cookie, but I would like the permissions to stay in place so I don't have to re-set them every time I visit every site. This has always worked well, so either something has changed and I don't understand the settings, or there is a bug. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: question about sessions, cookies, and permissions
Richard Tasker wrote: LMH wrote: What exactly constitutes a session? When I open seamonkey, I have it set to open the email window. If I open the browser window, close the browser, and open it again, it would appear that this is still the same session. Session only cookies are still present, even though the browser has been opened and closed. Is it necessary to close the entire SM application, or switch users, to create a new session? Also, my cookie permissions seem to be disappearing. I use google as my home page. When I open my browser, I get a prompt to set a cookie. I select, allow for session, and check the use every time check box, but every time I open my browser I get the same prompt asking if that cookie can be set. I also get a cookie request from id.google.com. I set this to block and use every time, but I get that request ever time I open my browser as well. LMH You do have to close everything to end a session. RET Any idea as to why my cookie permissions are disappearing? If I click on allow for session and use every time, I still get these prompts the next time I visit the site (if I have closed out SM between visits). I looked in the cookie permissions and the entry for the domain is missing. 1. open SM and log into a profile 2. open the browser 3. go to google.com 4. I get a permission request to set a cookie 5. select allow for session and use every time 6. these permissions are now in the data manager under google.com 7. close seamonkey 8. open SM and log into a profile 9. open the browser 10. open the data manager 11. there is no longer any cookie permissions entry for google.com 12. go to google.com 13. same cookie requests as before It would appear is if the cookie permissions are being deleted when the session cookie expires, which defeated the purpose of use every time. This is happening with sites other than google as well. My overall settings under Preferences Privacy and Security are, Allow cookies from originating site only Ask for each cookie, except session cookies This page has changed a bit over time. I would like to be prompted for each cookie, but I would like the permissions to stay in place so I don't have to re-set them every time I visit every site. This has always worked well, so either something has changed and I don't understand the settings, or there is a bug. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: my own IP is trying to set a cookie in some accounts
LMH wrote: This very odd behavior started right after updating to 2.14. It only occurs in one account, so it may have nothing to do with the update. When I open my browser, I get a prompt to allow the setting of a cookie from my homepage (a yahoo site), and then I get a prompt to allow a cookie to be set from an IP address (no domain name). After looking it up, I was surprised to find that it is the Comcast WAN IP from my own router. What software could this be that is setting a cookie from my own IP address when I connect? I found the same cookie in firefox, which was set to private browsing. When I changed firefox to ask me every time for cookie permissions, I did not get a prompt to allow setting of the cookie when I open firefox, so I can't seem to duplicate this in firefox. I get this prompt every time I open seamonkey unless I permanently create a rule. This has never happened before, so it seems very odd. It is also odd that it doesn't happen in my other seamonkey profiles. Has anyone else seen this happen? There is nothing in the cookie, and it doesn't seem to change when I surf, so I'm not sure what it is doing. New things that happen out of the blue always capture my attention. LMH After looking into this, not only is this cookie coming from nowhere, permissions regarding it and cookies for my home page are disappearing. If I clear permissions for my home page and this IP, close, and re-open seamonkey, I get the prompt to allow setting of both. I click block, and use every time and I can go into the data manager and see that the block permission is there for both. If I close and re-open again, I get the same prompt again. If I look in the data manager, the permissions for my home page domain and the IP are gone. No matter how many times I click block and use every time, I still get a prompt to set every time I open. Something is either removing the permissions, or there is a bug. I have 4 seamonkey accounts and this is only happening in one of them. I have the same home page in all of them and I made sure my permissions were the same. This does not happen when I open any of the other accounts. I also can't get this to happen in firefox or ie. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
my own IP is trying to set a cookie in some accounts
This very odd behavior started right after updating to 2.14. It only occurs in one account, so it may have nothing to do with the update. When I open my browser, I get a prompt to allow the setting of a cookie from my homepage (a yahoo site), and then I get a prompt to allow a cookie to be set from an IP address (no domain name). After looking it up, I was surprised to find that it is the Comcast WAN IP from my own router. What software could this be that is setting a cookie from my own IP address when I connect? I found the same cookie in firefox, which was set to private browsing. When I changed firefox to ask me every time for cookie permissions, I did not get a prompt to allow setting of the cookie when I open firefox, so I can't seem to duplicate this in firefox. I get this prompt every time I open seamonkey unless I permanently create a rule. This has never happened before, so it seems very odd. It is also odd that it doesn't happen in my other seamonkey profiles. Has anyone else seen this happen? There is nothing in the cookie, and it doesn't seem to change when I surf, so I'm not sure what it is doing. New things that happen out of the blue always capture my attention. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
delete messages on server manually
I have my seamonkey set to leave messages on the server until I delete them. Part of this is because I may dowload messages with seamonkey from more than one computer and I want all of my mail to be everywhere. At some point, I presume my server directory gets filled with mail and I need to delete some or all of it. I don't like having to log into yahoo and do this (which is why I use a client in the first place). Most of my accounts don't have a yahoo account associated with them anyway. Is there a way in seamonkey to tell the server to delete stored messages, or messages on the server that are older than some time frame, and still leave my setting to keep messages on server until I delete them? I presume that Yahoo will automatically clear messages if I am past my allocated space, but I would prefer to be able to manage that myself. Lately, I have been getting repeat downloads of messages, meaning that seamonkey is downloading messages from the server that I already received. On one day, seamonkey said I had new mail and the inbox looked like it had downloaded a duplicate copy of every message that was already in the inbox, some more than an year old. I am wondering if this something that happens if the server clears the mail from the server directory, meaning that they send you everything that is on the server before they clear it. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: delete messages on server manually
So what are my options for deleting manually? Some of my accounts have no yahoo id, meaning there were created for access only by an email client. I suppose I could switch seamonkey to keep messages on the server for say 30 days. Would that delete everything older than 30 days the next time seamonkey checks for messages? I guess I could do something like that and then change it back to until I delete them. It seems like a button that would delete everything on the server older than some data would be a nice addition, but I guess such things depend on how many folks thing that should be a priority. LMH Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: LMH wrote: I presume that Yahoo will automatically clear messages if I am past my allocated space, No. As I understand Yahoo, it will just stop receiving *new* messages (sending 'bounce' messages to the senders), and leave you with whatever was there up to the limit. AFAIK, all mail servers that have limits of storage would function this way. So, you will have to delete the old messages manually. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: delete messages on server manually
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: LMH wrote: So what are my options for deleting manually? Some of my accounts have no yahoo id, meaning there were created for access only by an email client. So you are saying some of these accounts are not Yahoo mailing addresses? Then you will have to deal with them at whatever server they belong to, such as the ISP, where they exist. Yahoo is not involved with them. I suppose I could switch seamonkey to keep messages on the server for say 30 days. Would that delete everything older than 30 days the next time seamonkey checks for messages? Not dependent on SeaMonkey. Check with the FAQ or support at Yahoo and the other places where you mail accumulates. I guess I could do something like that and then change it back to until I delete them. It seems like a button that would delete everything on the server older than some data would be a nice addition, but I guess such things depend on how many folks thing that should be a priority. There are many ways to handle email. Don't expect any one client to be able to address every circumstance. Find out if you have webmail access to these non-Yahoo accounts. Where are they, by the way? I'd suggest you find out how to work manually with each of your mail servers, and then don't let yourself get in this situation in the future. Please don't top-post. Thanks. Sorry about the top-post, I guess I didn't really understand what the term meant and had to look it up. I thought it meant to reply out of order in the thread, meaning not to the last in sequence. These are all yahoo accounts. I use yahoo as my hosting service to host my website and email. All of the accounts are on my domain, which is hosted by yahoo. I manage the creation of email accounts by logging into my yahoo website management site. When I create an email account, there are some options for access. Basically they are three options; access only through yahoo web mail, access through web mail and an email client, and access only with an email client. If I pick an option that supports web mail access, I have to associate the email address with an existing yahoo id. Then when the user logs in with their yahoo id, they have access to their mail. If I pick the option to only use a client, then the account is not associated with a yahoo id and there is no way to access it with web mail (at least that I know of). In fact, there is a disclaimer when you select that option and you are informed that you will never be able to access this email with web mail, but will always need a client. I loathe web mail interfaces, so I never use them unless there is no other option. I am required to have an admin account that is associated with a yahoo id, and I also have some that I can use when I am traveling. All others are client only. What exactly happens under the hood if you have your client set to only keep messages on the server for 7 days? Does the client send instruction to the server to delete the older messages, or does the client modify account settings on the server and the server takes it from there? Does changing this setting actually cause the deletion of older messages? The post by MCBastos seems to indicate that it may. I understand that no software application meets all possible needs, but often there are features of applications that I am unaware of, or misunderstand the use of, so that is why I asked. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Everywhere I go I get this message !
Philip TAYLOR wrote: DoctorBill wrote: E-Bay does not Like SeaMonkeySM is being Boycotted ! I use E-bay virtually every day, and I use no browser other than Seamonkey. Philip Taylor I generally set my cookies to ask me every time as far as when they expire. edit preferences privacy security cookies ask for every cookie This means that every time a site tries to set a cookie, I get a prompt asking if I want to allow, allow for session, or block. There is also a check box that lets you use the same response for all cookies from the site. For first party cookies (from the site you are on), I usually check allow for session. This allows the cookies, but deletes them as soon as you leave the page. I generally block all cookies that are not from the site I am on. This may seem like a pain, but SM remembers you selections and you get things working the way you want pretty quickly. I let a few sites, like Yahoo where I have some web sites, set permanent cookies, but I have generally found that session cookies work just fine. I also use no-script and I find that it helps allot to set it to temporarily allow scripts from the top level site. There are some sites where I need to allow a bit more, but top level temp seems to work well for me. Most of your security software seems to be targeted at adware, and a trojan is a not the same thing. I use Comodo IS Pro (along with super antispyware pro) and find my system very secure. CIS automatically runs any program it doesn't recognize in a sandbox, and I also have it set so programs are by default not allowed to connect to the internet so I get a prompt if anything tries to. Having your operating system and programs installed in their own partition (not with your data) and up to date system images are essential. If I think I got something nasty I just restore my OS to the last image and I am back to a clean system in 5 minutes. Having the OS and data on different partitions means I don't loose any data if I have to restore. Since running a full battery of malware scans can take me a full day, I much prefer this approach. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Everywhere I go I get this message !
DoctorBill wrote: LMH wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote: DoctorBill wrote: E-Bay does not Like SeaMonkeySM is being Boycotted ! I use E-bay virtually every day, and I use no browser other than Seamonkey. Philip Taylor I generally set my cookies to ask me every time as far as when they expire. edit preferences privacy security cookies ask for every cookie This means that every time a site tries to set a cookie, I get a prompt asking if I want to allow, allow for session, or block. There is also a check box that lets you use the same response for all cookies from the site. For first party cookies (from the site you are on), I usually check allow for session. This allows the cookies, but deletes them as soon as you leave the page. I generally block all cookies that are not from the site I am on. This may seem like a pain, but SM remembers you selections and you get things working the way you want pretty quickly. I let a few sites, like Yahoo where I have some web sites, set permanent cookies, but I have generally found that session cookies work just fine. I also use no-script and I find that it helps allot to set it to temporarily allow scripts from the top level site. There are some sites where I need to allow a bit more, but top level temp seems to work well for me. Most of your security software seems to be targeted at adware, and a trojan is a not the same thing. I use Comodo IS Pro (along with super antispyware pro) and find my system very secure. CIS automatically runs any program it doesn't recognize in a sandbox, and I also have it set so programs are by default not allowed to connect to the internet so I get a prompt if anything tries to. Having your operating system and programs installed in their own partition (not with your data) and up to date system images are essential. If I think I got something nasty I just restore my OS to the last image and I am back to a clean system in 5 minutes. Having the OS and data on different partitions means I don't loose any data if I have to restore. Since running a full battery of malware scans can take me a full day, I much prefer this approach. LMH OkWow ! I think I understand 33% of that. Let me study what you've said. DoctorBill As far as seamonkey goes, you can probably improve your experience quite an still keep good privacy/security by modifying your cookie and noscript settings. Please feel free to ask questions. It's hard to know how detailed to get with a post since you generally don't know how familiar the user is with the software. I try to split the difference and may not have been clear. I will be as detailed as you need to get your setup configured properly, just let me know. As far as overall privacy/security and system backup goes, a solid setup is also not too hard to get to and well worth the effort. If there are a substantial number of questions in those areas, we may be asked to move that discussion off of the seamonkey board, since it is not directly seamonkey related. In that event, there are some good forums that you can start a thread in. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.12. Congratulations ! The worst update in all the Mozilla's life.
I too at times have been frustrated with the results of automatic updates, especially when all of my add-ons are uninstalled and I have to go back and re-install and re-configure them. When updates are frequent, this can be a real drag. I would think that testing a new release with all the standard firewall and av packages would be standard practice, at least is it for me, but I guess that someone somewhere has to prioritize such things. I also have been very unimpressed with Norton, or Symantec, anything. For a long time, there was no evidence that this company even existed, except for the charge on my credit card. No support, no contact information for email, phone number, no address, etc. I ditched them long ago and would never go back, though I do understand that they have allot of users. I choose to have my seamonkey NOT set on auto update and rely on good firewall and av software to help fill the any security gap that may arise from not being completely up to date. I would appreciate a heads up when there is a security based update, as opposed to updates that are feature based/bug fix. I run all my browsers in a sand box, so I am somewhat less concerned about being completely up to date. I am far more concerned with keeping my rig stable and not having to waste time when non-critical updates cause issues. I use Comodo IS Pro (for $5/year) and am very happy with it. It seems to play nicely with seamonkey. I also have the av set so it takes no disinfection actions on it's own, but only prompts. With CIS, any unrecognized application is automatically run in a sandbox, so there is not allot of risk if something gets in that shouldn't. I would advise users to have the av set like this, unless they are a very naive user. If the av prompts that something needs to be taken care of, you can research the file and click ignore if you find it to be safe. False positives have always been an issue with av, and always will be. A reasonable method for ignoring false positives is essential to good av software. I also keep current system images so I can restore my os quickly if I think there may have been a problem. LMH Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Interges wrote: I have sended the file to Symantec, but seems that nobody more concerned about doing things as they should. Fix the problem causing the alert. This is the thing really disturbing. I expect that this will be a FALSE, and not a real security problem of this dll !! I should note, I, myself am reaching out to Norton (but since I have no direct human contacts at that company, the turnaround time can be days, and turnaround to a solution based on my contact can be weeks/months) The truth is, there is *nothing* we can do, as Developers to change what Norton reports here. We don't know *how* they identify this, we don't know *what* they look for. It would be a matter of shooting in the dark to *try* and solve it on our end. And yes, I am aware that it probably happens for more than just you, but doesn't mean I have any better solution than what I outlined in my e-mail. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
windows cannot find '(null)' error when changing user accounts,
Hello, Just today, I have started getting this windows popup error when I change user accounts. I am running 2.9.1 under XPsp3. Any ideas as to what may be going on? LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: windows cannot find '(null)' error when changing user accounts,
Sorry, I forgot to include the entire error, Windows cannot find '(null)'. Make sure you typed the name correctly, and then try again. To search for a file, click the Start button, and then click Search. This is the message. Oddly, I checked the event viewer and there are no application or system error messages. LMH LMH wrote: Hello, Just today, I have started getting this windows popup error when I change user accounts. I am running 2.9.1 under XPsp3. Any ideas as to what may be going on? LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: seamonkey accessing windows media player
When I did this, I got the following, plugin.scan.WindowsMediaPlayer;7.0 That is the only thing I could find doing several searches. I'm not sure what this is, so I would appreciate some advice before I go changing it. LMH Daniel wrote: LMH wrote: I am still getting this behavior. I does look like it has something to do with the pages I visit and not necessarily just opening SeaMonkey. I have nothing that I can find in SeaMonkey that points to media player and nothing under the default file extensions in windows that I can find. Is there a way to search the SeaMonkey settings for media player? I will also search the windows registry and see what I can find there. LMH Have you checked your preferences to see if it uses Media Player for anything?? In the browser address bar, enter about:config (without the quotes) and, if you're happy playing with the config, accept the warning, then, in the prefs screen, enter media player or some such in the Search line. (My config does not show a listing so this may not help you!!). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: seamonkey accessing windows media player
I am still getting this behavior. I does look like it has something to do with the pages I visit and not necessarily just opening SeaMonkey. I have nothing that I can find in SeaMonkey that points to media player and nothing under the default file extensions in windows that I can find. Is there a way to search the SeaMonkey settings for media player? I will also search the windows registry and see what I can find there. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
seamonkey accessing windows media player
Windows media player is one of the applications I never use and so it has been uninstalled using remove windows components. All of the files are still there since windows won't really let you uninstall, it just lets you pretend it's not installed (XP sp3 if it matters). My firewall logs (Comodo CIS D+) indicate that when I start seamonkey, seamonkey.exe tries to access the file wmplayer.exe. This file is blocked by the firewall since I can't fully uninstall the app, so there is a log entry. I checked under helper applications for SM, and media player is not listed there anywhere. Is there some reason why seamonkey would be trying to access media player on startup and is there a way to stop it? LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: seamonkey accessing windows media player
It depends, for one of the accounts I opened, the home page is google. For another, it is a simple website that only has html content as far as I can tell. Both accounts are configured to open on the email page. I can go through the process a bit more carefully and document what happens when if that would help. I wouldn't expect for windows to have any file types default to an application that isn't supposed to be installed, but there are allot of things in windows that don't behave as would be expected. LMH Paul B. Gallagher wrote: LMH wrote: Windows media player is one of the applications I never use and so it has been uninstalled using remove windows components. All of the files are still there since windows won't really let you uninstall, it just lets you pretend it's not installed (XP sp3 if it matters). My firewall logs (Comodo CIS D+) indicate that when I start seamonkey, seamonkey.exe tries to access the file wmplayer.exe. This file is blocked by the firewall since I can't fully uninstall the app, so there is a log entry. I checked under helper applications for SM, and media player is not listed there anywhere. Is there some reason why seamonkey would be trying to access media player on startup and is there a way to stop it? When you start SM, does it launch the browser and load a home page containing WM content? In that case, what is the default application in Windows for playing such content? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: seamonkey accessing windows media player
It depends, for one of the accounts I opened, the home page is google. For another, it is a simple website that only has html content as far as I can tell. Both accounts are configured to open on the email page. I can go through the process a bit more carefully and document what happens when if that would help. I wouldn't expect for windows to have any file types default to an application that isn't supposed to be installed, but there are allot of things in windows that don't behave as would be expected. LMH Paul B. Gallagher wrote: LMH wrote: Windows media player is one of the applications I never use and so it has been uninstalled using remove windows components. All of the files are still there since windows won't really let you uninstall, it just lets you pretend it's not installed (XP sp3 if it matters). My firewall logs (Comodo CIS D+) indicate that when I start seamonkey, seamonkey.exe tries to access the file wmplayer.exe. This file is blocked by the firewall since I can't fully uninstall the app, so there is a log entry. I checked under helper applications for SM, and media player is not listed there anywhere. Is there some reason why seamonkey would be trying to access media player on startup and is there a way to stop it? When you start SM, does it launch the browser and load a home page containing WM content? In that case, what is the default application in Windows for playing such content? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: seamonkey accessing windows media player
Thanks for the post. I checked in the addons manager, and windows media player doesn't appear in the list. I have the VLC plugin installed instead. I did disable Windows Presentation Foundation and two plugins for MS office which I don't think I want. I will check on the file types and make sure that nothing is pointing to media player. I think it is such a pain in the *ss to have to deal with all of this. What does Microsoft not understand about uninstalled. LMH David E. Ross wrote: On 5/22/12 12:14 PM, LMH wrote: Windows media player is one of the applications I never use and so it has been uninstalled using remove windows components. All of the files are still there since windows won't really let you uninstall, it just lets you pretend it's not installed (XP sp3 if it matters). My firewall logs (Comodo CIS D+) indicate that when I start seamonkey, seamonkey.exe tries to access the file wmplayer.exe. This file is blocked by the firewall since I can't fully uninstall the app, so there is a log entry. I checked under helper applications for SM, and media player is not listed there anywhere. Is there some reason why seamonkey would be trying to access media player on startup and is there a way to stop it? LMH I gave up trying to uninstall Windows Media Player. It seemed that every time I booted Windows XP, WMP would appear installed. Instead, I went to the SeaMonkey Add-ons Manager, selected Plugins, and disabled WMP. I also disabled Windows Presentation Foundation. All this required that I allocate media types to some other applications. I have RealPlayer, WinAmp, Quicktime, and a few others. My primary beef with WMP is that it plays media from within a Web page instead of launching a distinct, separate process. If I switch profiles or merely close that page, whatever was playing stops. This is also a complaint I have against media playing via Flash. Usually, the media I play are streaming broadcasts of classical music. These are not 5-10 minute tracks of popular pieces; these are 30-60 minute symphonies and concertos or even 2 hour operas. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
unable to save email message as draft
I am suddenly getting an error message, Save Draft Error Unable to save message you message as a draft Please verify that your Mail Newsgroup account settings are correct and try again I have never had this error before and have no idea what could be causing it. I have not made any changes to my setup here or to my account. Any suggestions as to what is causing this? LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: unable to save email message as draft
This is the first time I have seen this error. I also frequently save compositions. I have taken to saving a copy of long compositions in note pad, especially when I am posting to a web forum where the browser interface can get quirky. I have never had to do that with seamonkey before. Is this a known bug, or should it be posted somewhere? LMH BIll Spikowski wrote: LMH wrote: I am suddenly getting an error message, Save Draft Error Unable to save message you message as a draft Please verify that your Mail Newsgroup account settings are correct and try again I have never had this error before and have no idea what could be causing it. I have not made any changes to my setup here or to my account. Any suggestions as to what is causing this? I get this error frequently. Sometimes it's because I'm forwarding a message with embedded graphics that aren't available to me. Other times there is no apparent reason -- occasionally forcing me to retype all unsaved text in a simple email I'm composing. Needless to say this has trained me to hit Save often while composing emails in Seamonkey -- the way one must when working in Word, for instance... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: unable to save email message as draft
This is the first time I have seen this error. I also frequently save compositions. I have taken to saving a copy of long compositions in note pad, especially when I am posting to a web forum where the browser interface can get quirky. I have never had to do that with seamonkey before. Is this a known bug, or should it be posted somewhere? LMH BIll Spikowski wrote: LMH wrote: I am suddenly getting an error message, Save Draft Error Unable to save message you message as a draft Please verify that your Mail Newsgroup account settings are correct and try again I have never had this error before and have no idea what could be causing it. I have not made any changes to my setup here or to my account. Any suggestions as to what is causing this? I get this error frequently. Sometimes it's because I'm forwarding a message with embedded graphics that aren't available to me. Other times there is no apparent reason -- occasionally forcing me to retype all unsaved text in a simple email I'm composing. Needless to say this has trained me to hit Save often while composing emails in Seamonkey -- the way one must when working in Word, for instance... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: re-installing seamonkey
Mike C wrote: LMH wrote: JD wrote: LMH wrote: Mike C wrote: LMH wrote: I currently have seamonkey 2.4.1 installed and it is possible that I have had a security breach. I would like to re-install seamonkey, but I need to be able to do that without losing my profiles (which are stored on another drive from the seamonkey install folder). Is there a tutorial on how to do this without needing to re-import everything, which is a pain. LMH Your existing profiles may contain something you don't want. Copying them and then putting them into a new installation may just transfer the problem. (What IS the problem?) You should be able to reinstall a new SM right over the old one. BUTI would create a new profile first and see if all is Ok there. Mozbackup is a GREAT program. I've been using is for about 8 years! It will back up your profile files instead of you doing it manually. It will then restore the files to the new installation. BUT... You need to explain what you mean by security breach? Does someone know your passwords? Do you have malware or a virus? Is it only SM that's affected? One of the reasons I use seamonkey is that it allows me to keep my profiles in any location I designate. I have my profiles in a location outside the seamonkey install directory, and off of the C: drive. These folders are backed up every night along with all of my other data (using rsync). If I restore my OS from an image, or something like that, my email and browser are usually not affected. The same goes for a full re-install of windows. I haven't used mozbackup because I try to avoid relying on additional applications. My experience has been that simple file to file backups are the most dependable. All that said, using mozbackup in the manner suggested would not compromise the redundancy already in place. Worst case, I can always re-import my profiles, so I don't mind trying other solutions. I wish that seamonkey had a simpler import tool, like point to a folder and say import this one, instead of running from the command line and all that. I have a credit card that I use for online purchases only. That card recently had a string of fraudulent charges run up on it, all of which were online purchases from sites in Europe. My bank caught the charges and flagged them as suspicious, so they never got past the pending state. The charges have been canceled, along with the card. I am going through some due diligence to make sure my system here hasn't been compromised. Since these were online purchases, who ever used the card would have needed to know the card number, name as printed on the card, expiration date, card security number, and the entire correct billing address. The two easiest places to acquire this data are from one of the emerchants I made purchases from, or from my browser. There are very few emerchants I do business with, and most of them are very reputable (newegg, amazon, etc), but I still think an emerchant is the most likely source. Still, I think it makes sense to look at my browser. It would be nice if there was a way to scan all of the browser components and do an MD5SUM to confirm that all of the .exe, .dat, and .dll files are unmodified. I'm not sure where to look in the profile folders to see if anything is amiss. LMH What programs do you have to scan for spyware? That's a pretty good way to take a look at the security of your browser. I normally run Zone Alarm ISS (firewall and AV) and also have spybot SSD installed. Along with a sofaware firewall router with AV, this has always been enough. I have run a full malware sweep based on the protocol recommended by MajorGeeks (Super AntiSpyware, Malwarebytes, ComboFix, RootRepeal, MGtools). Nothing was found in the sweep. The fraud investigator at my bank said that it is unlikely that my system is compromised. He said that some of the charges were rejected because the all of the information given didn't match the card number. He said that this was most likely a hacker trying random 16 digit account numbers and random expiration dates. They keep trying combinations by testing on small charges ($3 or less) until they get something that authorizes. Once they have the combination they sell it. Some places don't check if all of the data matches and just get an authorization for the amount charged. Most of the places where the number was used did check everything and canceled the order. It doesn't look like anything got into my system here, otherwise they would have had all of the information needed to use the card and not just the number and expo date. LMH If SM is clean, go ahead and back it up with MozBackup. Backup is simple and restoring is simple. The reason I don't use MozBackup is that my email and web profile content changes on a daily basis. I back up my profile folders on a daily basis using rsync, like I back up all of my data. I suppose MozBackup makes sense as a backup tool to use before a re-install, but unless you
Re: re-installing seamonkey
JD wrote: LMH wrote: Mike C wrote: LMH wrote: I currently have seamonkey 2.4.1 installed and it is possible that I have had a security breach. I would like to re-install seamonkey, but I need to be able to do that without losing my profiles (which are stored on another drive from the seamonkey install folder). Is there a tutorial on how to do this without needing to re-import everything, which is a pain. LMH Your existing profiles may contain something you don't want. Copying them and then putting them into a new installation may just transfer the problem. (What IS the problem?) You should be able to reinstall a new SM right over the old one. BUTI would create a new profile first and see if all is Ok there. Mozbackup is a GREAT program. I've been using is for about 8 years! It will back up your profile files instead of you doing it manually. It will then restore the files to the new installation. BUT... You need to explain what you mean by security breach? Does someone know your passwords? Do you have malware or a virus? Is it only SM that's affected? One of the reasons I use seamonkey is that it allows me to keep my profiles in any location I designate. I have my profiles in a location outside the seamonkey install directory, and off of the C: drive. These folders are backed up every night along with all of my other data (using rsync). If I restore my OS from an image, or something like that, my email and browser are usually not affected. The same goes for a full re-install of windows. I haven't used mozbackup because I try to avoid relying on additional applications. My experience has been that simple file to file backups are the most dependable. All that said, using mozbackup in the manner suggested would not compromise the redundancy already in place. Worst case, I can always re-import my profiles, so I don't mind trying other solutions. I wish that seamonkey had a simpler import tool, like point to a folder and say import this one, instead of running from the command line and all that. I have a credit card that I use for online purchases only. That card recently had a string of fraudulent charges run up on it, all of which were online purchases from sites in Europe. My bank caught the charges and flagged them as suspicious, so they never got past the pending state. The charges have been canceled, along with the card. I am going through some due diligence to make sure my system here hasn't been compromised. Since these were online purchases, who ever used the card would have needed to know the card number, name as printed on the card, expiration date, card security number, and the entire correct billing address. The two easiest places to acquire this data are from one of the emerchants I made purchases from, or from my browser. There are very few emerchants I do business with, and most of them are very reputable (newegg, amazon, etc), but I still think an emerchant is the most likely source. Still, I think it makes sense to look at my browser. It would be nice if there was a way to scan all of the browser components and do an MD5SUM to confirm that all of the .exe, .dat, and .dll files are unmodified. I'm not sure where to look in the profile folders to see if anything is amiss. LMH What programs do you have to scan for spyware? That's a pretty good way to take a look at the security of your browser. I normally run Zone Alarm ISS (firewall and AV) and also have spybot SSD installed. Along with a sofaware firewall router with AV, this has always been enough. I have run a full malware sweep based on the protocol recommended by MajorGeeks (Super AntiSpyware, Malwarebytes, ComboFix, RootRepeal, MGtools). Nothing was found in the sweep. The fraud investigator at my bank said that it is unlikely that my system is compromised. He said that some of the charges were rejected because the all of the information given didn't match the card number. He said that this was most likely a hacker trying random 16 digit account numbers and random expiration dates. They keep trying combinations by testing on small charges ($3 or less) until they get something that authorizes. Once they have the combination they sell it. Some places don't check if all of the data matches and just get an authorization for the amount charged. Most of the places where the number was used did check everything and canceled the order. It doesn't look like anything got into my system here, otherwise they would have had all of the information needed to use the card and not just the number and expo date. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: re-installing seamonkey
Mike C wrote: LMH wrote: I currently have seamonkey 2.4.1 installed and it is possible that I have had a security breach. I would like to re-install seamonkey, but I need to be able to do that without losing my profiles (which are stored on another drive from the seamonkey install folder). Is there a tutorial on how to do this without needing to re-import everything, which is a pain. LMH Your existing profiles may contain something you don't want. Copying them and then putting them into a new installation may just transfer the problem. (What IS the problem?) You should be able to reinstall a new SM right over the old one. BUTI would create a new profile first and see if all is Ok there. Mozbackup is a GREAT program. I've been using is for about 8 years! It will back up your profile files instead of you doing it manually. It will then restore the files to the new installation. BUT... You need to explain what you mean by security breach? Does someone know your passwords? Do you have malware or a virus? Is it only SM that's affected? One of the reasons I use seamonkey is that it allows me to keep my profiles in any location I designate. I have my profiles in a location outside the seamonkey install directory, and off of the C: drive. These folders are backed up every night along with all of my other data (using rsync). If I restore my OS from an image, or something like that, my email and browser are usually not affected. The same goes for a full re-install of windows. I haven't used mozbackup because I try to avoid relying on additional applications. My experience has been that simple file to file backups are the most dependable. All that said, using mozbackup in the manner suggested would not compromise the redundancy already in place. Worst case, I can always re-import my profiles, so I don't mind trying other solutions. I wish that seamonkey had a simpler import tool, like point to a folder and say import this one, instead of running from the command line and all that. I have a credit card that I use for online purchases only. That card recently had a string of fraudulent charges run up on it, all of which were online purchases from sites in Europe. My bank caught the charges and flagged them as suspicious, so they never got past the pending state. The charges have been canceled, along with the card. I am going through some due diligence to make sure my system here hasn't been compromised. Since these were online purchases, who ever used the card would have needed to know the card number, name as printed on the card, expiration date, card security number, and the entire correct billing address. The two easiest places to acquire this data are from one of the emerchants I made purchases from, or from my browser. There are very few emerchants I do business with, and most of them are very reputable (newegg, amazon, etc), but I still think an emerchant is the most likely source. Still, I think it makes sense to look at my browser. It would be nice if there was a way to scan all of the browser components and do an MD5SUM to confirm that all of the .exe, .dat, and .dll files are unmodified. I'm not sure where to look in the profile folders to see if anything is amiss. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
re-installing seamonkey
I currently have seamonkey 2.4.1 installed and it is possible that I have had a security breach. I would like to re-install seamonkey, but I need to be able to do that without losing my profiles (which are stored on another drive from the seamonkey install folder). Is there a tutorial on how to do this without needing to re-import everything, which is a pain. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
sudden problem sending mail
Sometime late yesterday I became unable to send mail from most of my accounts in seamonkey. The issue persists today. I get the following error message, An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: From address not verified - see http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/original/manage/sendfrom-07.html. Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again. The suggested link redirects to a generic help page, http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/index.html This seamonkey account has 13 different email addresses entered as accounts, plus the seamonkey support news group. All of the email are from my yahoo domain. The first email account, which is the admin email for the domain, works fine I can send and receive. This is the username that is used for the SMTP server that is used by all 13 email accounts to send mail. If I try to send mail from any of the other accounts, I get the error, but I can send from the admin account. I have used this setup literally for years and haven't changed anything in quite a while. I upgraded to 2.4 today to see if that would help, but no change. I have also tried with my firewall/AV off. I spent about an hour on the phone with a yahoo tech last night, and all he had to say was that the problem isn't on their end because my web mail works. I don't really believe that, but I'm trying to track down all of the possibilities. Any similar experiences or suggestions? LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: sudden problem sending mail
Sorry, I accidentally posted this as a reply to another thread, bad form on my part. Obviously, I am able to post in a newsgroup, so that functionality is not affected by the problem, LMH LMH wrote: Sometime late yesterday I became unable to send mail from most of my accounts in seamonkey. The issue persists today. I get the following error message, An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: From address not verified - see http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/original/manage/sendfrom-07.html. Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again. The suggested link redirects to a generic help page, http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/index.html This seamonkey account has 13 different email addresses entered as accounts, plus the seamonkey support news group. All of the email are from my yahoo domain. The first email account, which is the admin email for the domain, works fine I can send and receive. This is the username that is used for the SMTP server that is used by all 13 email accounts to send mail. If I try to send mail from any of the other accounts, I get the error, but I can send from the admin account. I have used this setup literally for years and haven't changed anything in quite a while. I upgraded to 2.4 today to see if that would help, but no change. I have also tried with my firewall/AV off. I spent about an hour on the phone with a yahoo tech last night, and all he had to say was that the problem isn't on their end because my web mail works. I don't really believe that, but I'm trying to track down all of the possibilities. Any similar experiences or suggestions? LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: sudden problem sending mail
Thanks for the info, I was able to fix the issue using your instructions. If I had seen the dropdown where you associate an email with an outgoing SMTP server, I may have figured this out earlier. I actually tried entering a matching SMTP username, but I didn't know that I needed to associate it in the account settings. I am really steamed that yahoo did this. It took me all afternoon to re-configure all of my business addresses. What am I paying for a business domain for if I have to put up with all of this. They should have notified my when they made the change. The tech guy I spent an hour on the phone with last night said specifically that I should only have one SMTP account that I use with all my email. He said that my account was working properly and that the problem was with my client software, or the ISP. He actually spent most of his time trying to convince me to use their new web mail. I find that support always goes down the tube when companies start blending support with sales pitches. The tech actually told me to delete the account and re-create it to see if that would help. DELETE MY BUSINESS EMAIL ACCOUNT!!! Why does he think I use an email client instead of web mail in the first place? Maybe because my email is the most important thing I need for my business and I need to have it local, fast, and well backed up??? Talk about business unfriendly. Can someone recommend a hosting service that is a bit more competent and business friendly? Anyway, thanks so much for the help, I've been dead in the water since yesterday afternoon. LMH S. Beaulieu wrote: S. Beaulieu a écrit : Trouble is, they now require that all emails originating from a Yahoo email address go out through a connection using the same email address. I forgot to add that that's exactly why you can still send mail from your admin address: it matches the SMTP. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: sudden problem sending mail
I have no real interest in cloud hosting, I much prefer a plain old basic server with a plain old basic backup. Is there a more traditional outfit out there that folks have had good success with. LMH Paul B. Gallagher wrote: LMH wrote: ... The tech actually told me to delete the account and re-create it to see if that would help. DELETE MY BUSINESS EMAIL ACCOUNT!!! Why does he think I use an email client instead of web mail in the first place? Maybe because my email is the most important thing I need for my business and I need to have it local, fast, and well backed up??? Talk about business unfriendly. Can someone recommend a hosting service that is a bit more competent and business friendly? Anyway, thanks so much for the help, I've been dead in the water since yesterday afternoon. shameless plug I've had good results for years with hostway.com. They're not the cheapest tool in the bin, but they stay up, their 24/7 phone help is friendly, cooperative and knowledgeable, and with very rare exceptions (none recently), all their stuff works with SeaMonkey, none of this nonsense about approved browsers. /shameless plug ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: sudden problem sending mail
I have no real interest in cloud hosting, I much prefer a plain old basic server with a plain old basic backup. Is there a more traditional outfit out there that folks have had good success with. LMH Paul B. Gallagher wrote: LMH wrote: ... The tech actually told me to delete the account and re-create it to see if that would help. DELETE MY BUSINESS EMAIL ACCOUNT!!! Why does he think I use an email client instead of web mail in the first place? Maybe because my email is the most important thing I need for my business and I need to have it local, fast, and well backed up??? Talk about business unfriendly. Can someone recommend a hosting service that is a bit more competent and business friendly? Anyway, thanks so much for the help, I've been dead in the water since yesterday afternoon. shameless plug I've had good results for years with hostway.com. They're not the cheapest tool in the bin, but they stay up, their 24/7 phone help is friendly, cooperative and knowledgeable, and with very rare exceptions (none recently), all their stuff works with SeaMonkey, none of this nonsense about approved browsers. /shameless plug ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: sudden problem sending mail
This setup makes a bit more sense in some ways, but it was never an issue before yesterday. You used the same outgoing SMTP server for all of your accounts, as long as the address was from the same domain. I guess yahoo decided to change that without telling anyone. Now that every email account needs to have configured POP and configured SMTP settings, it would make sense for them to be on the same screen. LMH MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 26/10/2011 15:53, S. Beaulieu told the world: So, basically, the solution is to add a separate SMTP server for each of your addresses in Seamonkey, making sure to link each address to its proper SMTP. Actually, I never understood the reasoning behind making the SMTP setup so complicated in Mozilla products, what with hiding it on an entirely separate section and making you enter your account info twice. I hate to point it out, but the way it is done in Microsoft products -- SMTP server right below POP/IMAP server, and the option to use the same credentials for SMTP is way easier. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: problems with some php web sites
Any suggestions on this? I need to post in some of these forums and have no idea what to do since I can't contact the site admin. It would be helpful to know if this is a problem on the webpage or a problem with my browser/local settings. I have posted in these forums before with no issue, so I need to figure out what has changed. LMH LMH wrote: Lately I have had a number of problems with websites and I have no way of telling if the issue is with the site or browser. With this forum, http://www.unix.com/programming/ I am able to log into my account, but when I go to a page to create a post, none of the php tools work (text color, bold, etc). When I move the mouse over the different buttons, I get tool tips saying what the button does, but it acts like it is not there when I try to click on it. Also, if I type in a message and click on preview or submit, the new screen that comes up says the message I entered is too short and all of the text I entered is gone. Is there some keyboard shortcut I could have hit by accident to togel between plain text and php mode, or something like that. I have cleared my cache, cookies, and such, run CCleaner, restated and all that. I have a similar problem with this site, http://www.daniweb.com/software-development/shell-scripting/113 When I make a post there, all of the php tools also don't work, but I can preview and submit the post. I can't think of anything that would cause an issue like this that would not be resolved by clearing cache and cookies. I am running a firewall (ZoneAlarm ISS), but nothing changes if I turn it off. Any suggestions as to what to do. Because the problem is with creating a post, I am not able to contact the site admin to see what they know about this. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: problems with some php web sites
I accept session cookies from this site, which is a very reputable programming forum, possibly the top rated. Of course, I am going to log in, so a session cookie is anticipated. They have a short advertisement page that you are sent when you first go to the site. A banner ad from a supporter is displayed. After a few seconds you are re-directed to the main page. I find this annoying, but I guess someone needs to pay for the site. All in all I prefer that to third party tracking cookies. You can still access the site if you reject cookies. Everyone gets the banner advertisement page whether or not you allow cookies. You don't go to the banner if you are logged in. If you do allow session cookies, you can skip the ad banner by clicking on the redirect link instead of waiting for the clock to run down. I consider the underlying engine of these vBuiltin forums to be php driven, particularly the actions of the buttons like submit and preview, but I could be wrong about that I guess. LMH Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: NoOp wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Aside: the aforementioned link to unix.com/programming tries to redirect me: http://www.unix.com/advertisement.php ... Not very friendly. They require cookies. If you have cookies off you'll get the redirect loop. You're probably right. I think I didn't accept them. Oh well. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: problems with some php web sites
The test I did was to clear my permission to accept session cookies and go to default. That means that SM asks me about every cookie. When I went to the site, I checked block and use for all cookies. After that, all I had to do is wait for the countdown to finish and I went to the forum. I guess you are saying that if I was to try to look at an individual post, I would go back to the loop? I just tried again and got stuck in the same loop you describe. I will send a message to the forum about that, if I can ever get it working again. The add banner thing is pretty new. I don't really like it, but I think it is one of the more responsible ways to pay for a site. Anyway, does anyone have any idea why I can't make a post on this forum even though I can log in? I have had a few issues before with the tools on a post screen not working (font, bold, etc), but I have always been able to correct it by clearing temp files and restarting the browser. I sort of assumed that there was some plain text version of the posting tool that I was into by an accidentally shortcut key, or something like that. This sort of thing is happening on a number of web sites, so I thought I should check and see if it is browser related. I really need to be able to post in some of these forums, so this is not a minor inconvenience by any stretch. LMH NoOp wrote: On 10/20/2011 06:38 PM, LMH wrote: I accept session cookies from this site, which is a very reputable programming forum, possibly the top rated. Of course, I am going to log in, so a session cookie is anticipated. They have a short advertisement page that you are sent when you first go to the site. A banner ad from a supporter is displayed. After a few seconds you are re-directed to the main page. I find this annoying, but I guess someone needs to pay for the site. All in all I prefer that to third party tracking cookies. You can still access the site if you reject cookies. Everyone gets the banner advertisement page whether or not you allow cookies. You don't go to the banner if you are logged in. If you do allow session cookies, you can skip the ad banner by clicking on the redirect link instead of waiting for the clock to run down. Sorry, but that's not correct. Earlier today all I got was: http://www.unix.com/advertisement.php?url=http://www.unix.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16 I may eventually get to: http://www.unix.com/programming/ without cookies, but if I click on: http://www.unix.com/programming/164429-access-e-mail-inbox-using-php.html I get: http://www.unix.com/advertisement.php?url=http://www.unix.com/showthread.php?t=164429 and it just keeps on looping for about 10 iterations and then finally ends up on the forum post. (Earlier today it wouldn't even do that - maybe they finally changed their advertisement link). Either way I'd have to agree with Beauregard... it's an issue. But hey, I realise some sites require cookies turn them on for those particular sites. I'm just telling you that the problem with the loop (at least earlier today) is cookie related. Once I turned on cookies the site/forum worked ok for viewing. Please bottom post on this group. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
problems with some php web sites
Lately I have had a number of problems with websites and I have no way of telling if the issue is with the site or browser. With this forum, http://www.unix.com/programming/ I am able to log into my account, but when I go to a page to create a post, none of the php tools work (text color, bold, etc). When I move the mouse over the different buttons, I get tool tips saying what the button does, but it acts like it is not there when I try to click on it. Also, if I type in a message and click on preview or submit, the new screen that comes up says the message I entered is too short and all of the text I entered is gone. Is there some keyboard shortcut I could have hit by accident to togel between plain text and php mode, or something like that. I have cleared my cache, cookies, and such, run CCleaner, restated and all that. I have a similar problem with this site, http://www.daniweb.com/software-development/shell-scripting/113 When I make a post there, all of the php tools also don't work, but I can preview and submit the post. I can't think of anything that would cause an issue like this that would not be resolved by clearing cache and cookies. I am running a firewall (ZoneAlarm ISS), but nothing changes if I turn it off. Any suggestions as to what to do. Because the problem is with creating a post, I am not able to contact the site admin to see what they know about this. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
passwords suddenly incorrect
I am getting odd behavior with the password manager. Passwords that have been saved for a long time, like my SMTP login, are suddenly being called incorrect by my email provider. I have tried to send mail, and had the SMTP server return a message that the password is incorrect. I am using a master password, and the individual passwords have been saved for a long time. If I re-enter the password, it works. This has also happened for POP passwords. I have an account where I manage about 10 different email addresses. The POP passwords failed for two of them and I had to reenter them. The passwords were fine for all the others, which is very odd. It almost implies that the passwords are being corrupted, unless there is something else in play that I don't know about. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: turn off automatic update
I did that, but it looks like I have to perform that step separately in each different user account, which was a pain. Is there some reason why this is tied to individual user accounts? I guess otherwise you might have to designate an application administrator, or something like that. LMH Paul B. Gallagher wrote: LMH wrote: I don't remember any setting for configuring automatic updates for seamonkey. I also can't find any setting for turning this on or off. Where is this controlled from? Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Software Installation. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
turn off automatic update
I don't remember any setting for configuring automatic updates for seamonkey. I also can't find any setting for turning this on or off. Where is this controlled from? LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: javascript suddenly not working
Since mine is working now, when I click a tab, the tab changes from gray
to white, even if the content is lower down on the page. I spend allot
of time on newegg, since I build computers, and I need to look at the
Details page frequently. I was quite stumped last night when I couldn't
get the details page to check the size of something.
It is working now, but for now more appearent reason then it stopped
working for.
LMH
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
I am using seamonkey 2.2 on winXP and I have suddenly noticed that some
java script in webpages is not working. If I go to a newegg product page
such as this one,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289
I cannot switch to different tabs, such as Details, Feedback, etc. If I
mouse over the Details tab, I get,
javascript:Biz.Product.Product2010.switchTab('Details_Tab');
but when I click on the tab, nothing happens. I have noticed this at
some other pages as well. I have not made any configuration changes
lately and I don't think the web page is any different.
I see that effect too, but only if I leave the scroll bar
at top of page. As far as I can see, the selected tab
affects only material that falls off the bottom of the
page, so unless I scroll down I could believe that there
had been no effect.
Philip Taylor
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