Re: Oe import
Hello Ravindra, On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 02:55:15 +0100GMT (11-6-02, 3:55 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: RM I'm a bit new and just switching from Outlook Express. RM I know I can import messages and addresses. RM Is there some way to easily import all the account settings? No. That can't be done, but unless you've got lots of accounts that shouldn't be too complicated. Since you're new to TB and this list, you're probably not aware of this: The Bat is able too thread messages properly, in order to see what I mean, just select the folder where you're storing the messages from this list. Go to the menu: view - view threads by - references. Now you'll see that all messages are lined up after the message to which they're first, second (or whatever) level replies to. You started what's essentially a new thread by replying to another message. That means it shows up as listed in another thread. Since people sometimes skip messages in threads they don't consider interesting (for lack of time), they might skip your message too, since they're not aware of the newly started thread. So next time you'd do yourself a favor by sending a new message in stead of a reply, because you're reaching a larger audience and one of those might have the answer you've been waiting for. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Oe import
RO Hello Ravindra, RO No. That can't be done, but unless you've got lots of accounts RO that shouldn't be too complicated. Ok, I did have several accounts and lots of rules, but I just spent half the night setting them up again. :) RO You started what's essentially a new thread by replying to another RO message. That means it shows up as listed in another thread. I see. I ignorantly thought that by changing the subject line, I'd start a new thread - but now I understand that the threads are determined by code in the message header. Cool ... RO Since RO people sometimes skip messages in threads they don't consider RO interesting (for lack of time), they might skip your message too, RO since they're not aware of the newly started thread. So next time RO you'd do yourself a favor by sending a new message in stead of a RO reply, because you're reaching a larger audience and one of those RO might have the answer you've been waiting for. Thanks for the tip Roelof. I'll definitely remember that in the future. I've been using TB for only half a night, and I can already see that I'll keep using it for a long time. -- Best wishes, Ravindra Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Delivery Read Receipts.
Hi, Is there a way you can default confirm and read receipts? I've seen it somewhere but can't remember where. Also, when you forward a message, can these be set again without having to update the settings manually by right clicking on the options? Thanks, Chris. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
PGP 6.5.8ckt build 08 plugin
I've recently converted from PGP 7.0.3 to 6.8.5ckt build 08. My intention was to start using the plugin and not have to deal with the tray icon more than necessary. However, I don't seam to get the plugin working correctly. It is installed under C:\Program Files\The Bat! and it's called batpgp65.dll, so far correct as I've understood it, but when I write a message, I can't get TB! to sign nor encrypt it. If I enable OpenPGP I get a message that I don't have OpenPGP keyrings and have to create them first (correct, I don't use OpenPGP). If I disable OpenPGP the options Encrypt when completed and Sign when completed are greyed out. What am I doing wrong? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Local delivery screw-up
Hi Bat Users, I recently found that having Options|network administration | Allow local delivery checked can cause some emails to not be send. My exact set up is that I redirect email from account A to account B using local delivery. I also have a filter in account A in the outgoing section that MOVES the mail from the outbox to a subfolder. I have now found that sometimes the mail gets moved to the subfolder but is not being send. If I de-select local delivery everything works fine. It looks like the filter sometimes kicks in before the send action has been done. I have tried re-sending mails that failed and they got send. I can therefore also not discover any pattern in this except that it seems to happen wen there is more then one email waiting to be delivered. I will do some more testing but I would appreciate some experienced Bat users to have a look at this one. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- There was a point to this narrative, but it has presently escaped the chronicler's mind. -- The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Local delivery screw-up
Hello Gerard, It was foretold that on Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 11:17 GMT +0200, Gerard [G] would type: G I have now found that sometimes the mail gets moved to the subfolder but G is not being send. G If I de-select local delivery everything works fine. G It looks like the filter sometimes kicks in before the send action has G been done. These are long-standing bugs with the Allow Local Delivery option. It looks like the multi-threading capability of TB causes the program to get confused when the sending takes longer than expected. Your safest bet is to disable the Allow Local Delivery option and just waste the bandwidth instead. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal There is no such place as the University of Wis-cosine, and if there was, the motto of their mathematics department would not be Secant ye shall find. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: After replying or forwarding a message.
Hello ChristopherX, On Monday, June 10, 2002 at 7:56 AM, a creature mimicking Weaven, ChristopherX [WC] wrote: WC After replying or forwarding a message, is there a way to close WC the original message box automatically rather than having to go WC back into it and closing it manually? No. When you double click on a message, you actually open a new view of the folder. You can see this by clicking on View - Message List -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Ok, who is General Relativity, and what did he do with Sir Newton? Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Seeing the distribution list.
Hello ChristopherX, On Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 1:29 AM, a creature mimicking Weaven, ChristopherX [WC] wrote: WC Is there an easy way to see all the people in the 'To' box rather than WC clicking in the 'To' box and scrolling through the whole thing? Try the Address Auto-View: View - Address Auto-View or shift-ctrl-O -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal I've determined the momentum of my physics assignment so precisely that it can be anywhere in the universe right now. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
euro sign
Hello all, I have been using The Bat! now for some weeks and am very happy with it. But: all that time I was mistaken in thinking that the ¤ euro sign was shown correctly: In my editor window it shows up as it should, but some correspondents report that they get to see another symbol ( a small circle with four little tentacles) instead. I have set the character set to Latin 9 - 8859-15 and checked 'permit 8-bits character in heading' . I have tried testing by sending myself e-mail but found that even when the sign shows up properly in 'sent mail' , the receiver may not always see the euro sign (¤) as it is meant. (It is *always* shown correctly in my editor). Two questions: - Does this has to do with my settings only or with those on the receiving end or both? - How can I correct this and check it without being misled by my editor. (I am not a computer expert) -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.60h op Windows XP _ -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.60h op Windows XP _ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New HTML engine?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED], @11 June 2002, 21:12:16 -0500 (03:12 UK time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw that a new HTML engine is listed as being part of the new version, but I just tried it and nothing seems different, It has been re-written and now supports CSS and a lot more layout tags. at least it's not doing what a typical html engine would. That's because it's not an engine. It's a renderer. Is this lack of function still intentional (I'm assuming for security reasons) or am I missing some setting? It is intentional for both technical and security reasons. I've been waiting for ages for it to finally work so I can see inline images, etc. In-line images *can* be seen. It's out-of-line images (on-line images) that cause trouble by requiring you to connect to the internet and download them separately to your email. Between ZoneAlarm and Norton A/V 2002, I'm not worried about anything harmful getting in. That doesn't work, not with malicious JavaScript and HTML. Anyone can write spy-ware and non-viral/worm code that won't upset the the firewall and AV protection but will still run and hurt you. It'd be nice if we at least had the option to turn on full html, unless it's already there and I've missed it. It will never be there in that form. It's just too dangerous. I understand that support for retrieving non-sent images will be added at some point *BUT* it will only get one image at a time and prompt for permission for *each* image. This is because not all images *are* images. As for whether or not the internal renderer will ever support JScript (or VBScript) code - I doubt it. The internal renderer will only ever be useful as a reasonable display of the message sent. It is still going to be a case of double clicking on the attachment to see the HTML in full gory (sic). This is only as it should be. HTML was designed to be used on-line. EMail was designed to be used off-line. The crossover of the two remains ever an uncomfortable mess of compromise, concession and risk. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9BcgsOeQkq5KdzaARAtQsAJ4uvKELY2ywFtimAmCQzvuQ5r0kNACeM3zj ZfIZlBnoOwkV1KG3yz5CIA4= =T/K6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: euro sign
Hoi Ochrid, O may not always see the euro sign (¤) as it is meant. Well, it shows fine here. And you can always send me Euros :-) Regards, -Daan- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Local delivery screw-up
ON Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 11:37:27 AM, you wrote: JA These are long-standing bugs with the Allow Local Delivery option. JA It looks like the multi-threading capability of TB causes the JA program to get confused when the sending takes longer than expected. JA Your safest bet is to disable the Allow Local Delivery option and JA just waste the bandwidth instead. Hi Januk, Thanks, at least I know they are bugs now. It's the wasting of bandwidth I was hoping to avoid. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Undocumented Opcode: ECE - Electrocute Customer Engineer Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: euro sign
Hello Ochrid,
On Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 11:50:17 AM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):
O the receiver may not always see the euro sign (¤) as it is meant. (It is
O *always* shown correctly in my editor).
That's because, after hours, days and weeks of begging, The Bat! finally
uses the _correct_ Latin-9 character table. In Latin-9 the Euro-sign is
defined as 0xA4 (hexadecimal char code is 'A4'), while MS introduced the
Euro-sign in Latin-1 (where it in fact AIN'T defined) with 0x80.
In Latin-9 '0x80' is the 'sun' you describe (IIRC and 'international
currency symbol') while in Latin-1 this 'sun' is '0xA4'.
So there's a cross-reference between Latin-1 and Latin-9
|-|
|Latin-1 | Latin-9|
|-|
| 0x80 | 0xA4 |
| 0xA4 | 0X80 |
|-|
On your system The Bat! translates the Euro-sign correctly back to
Windows-character-table, while it seems at the other end this is _not_ done
correctly. It seems the hex value is taken literally without any
translation to the charset used for displaying.
O Two questions:
O - Does this has to do with my settings only or with those on the
O receiving end or both?
At least: with the receivers settings.
You _could_ change your XLAT-table to use values the receiver uses too, but
I'd heavily discourage you to do so. One big advantage of The Bat! is it
reflects and uses STANDARDS (even if some only are set up properly after
enough complaints by Beta-testers *G*) and does not break them.
O - How can I correct this and check it without being misled by my
O editor.
O (I am not a computer expert)
You can:
1.) _DISABLE_ 8bit character support in headers. It's not recommended to
use them in headers.
2.) Enable 'Quoted-Printable' encoding of 8bit characters in your message
body. ('Account' / 'Properties' / 'Mail management' / '8-bit characters
are treated')
3.) Send yourself a test message containing the Euro symbol and have a look
at the message source after receiving it. The position where you expect
the Euro symbol should now be '=A4'. If so _your_ system is set up to
send the correct encoding for Euro sign, IF the the 'Content-Type'
value 'charset' is 'ISO-8859-15'.
HTH Pit
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Re[2]: New HTML engine?
Hello Marck, It will never be there in that form. It's just too dangerous. I understand that support for retrieving non-sent images will be added at some point *BUT* it will only get one image at a time and prompt for permission for *each* image. This is because not all images *are* images. What is the problem with that? If they are not images you display nothing. You detect by extension which image it should be, try to display it if you can, otherwise leave it alone. -- Best regards, Mitja Perko Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: euro sign
Hello Daniel, I do not see it... -- Best regards, Mitja Perko Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Delivery Read Receipts.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Weaven, Christopherx [WC] wrote: ... WC Is there a way you can default confirm and read receipts? I've WC seen it somewhere but can't remember where. It's in the account options. You can request read confirmations or receipt requests by toggling the respective switch for the accounts new message templates. There are macros for this as well and I recommend using them instead of enabling account level requests which would have a receipt request placed in every message from the account. The last thing you wish to do is send read receipt requests to a discussion list. %RCPTCONFIRM set the Receipt Request flag for the current message %READCONFIRM set the Reading Confirmation Request flag for the current message %NORCPTCONFIRM disable the Receipt Request flag for the current message %NOREADCONFIRM disable the Reading Confirmation Request flag for the current message You can automate your receipt request response at the account level. Look in the account properties/Templates/Read confirmations. You can also adjust how you respond to read receipts at the folder level. Look in the folders properties under read confirmations. WC Also, when you forward a message, can these be set again without WC having to update the settings manually by right clicking on the WC options? I don't understand you here. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9BdFQV8nrYCsHF+IRAlP0AKDIkiw3UcSs7JyCsQxHSNTpZDIG0wCffajZ swVEI3oTogZA3yaBsh61loA= =1h4e -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[3]: euro sign
Hi Mitja, MP I do not see it... I think the Euro is only displayed in EC countries :-) Seriously, Peter Palmreuther's message to Ochrid probably explains it. Regards, -Daan- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: PGP 6.5.8ckt build 08 plugin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Recently, Marcus Ohlström squawked: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] However, I don't seam to get the plugin working correctly. It is installed under C:\Program Files\The Bat! and it's called batpgp65.dll, Hi // that, plus it's sig file are also in my Bat root directory, just as is yours. Mine is working - so, have you check-marked the option to use *PGP 6.0x-6.5x* located in Tools|Pgp|Choose Version ??? this was the only thing I could think of to ask you, pardon me if you already have done that. - -- Bye Now, Robert D. Public Key located at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x1D14AF5FBody=Please%20send%20keys The Bat!: 1.60q Windows ME 4.90.3000. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt 09 - b3 iQA/AwUBPQXSBhUUkTAdFK9fEQIrQQCgoQOgNn8k2rIrtSQP/r2GXSDWiZMAoK7H O/XKSLUtoEZcq8g4D+KKZhx9 =1NG7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: PGP 6.5.8ckt build 08 plugin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Marcus Ohlström [MO] wrote: ... MO However, I don't seam to get the plugin working correctly. It is MO installed under C:\Program Files\The Bat! and it's called MO batpgp65.dll, so far correct as I've understood it, but when I MO write a message, I can't get TB! to sign nor encrypt it. If I MO enable OpenPGP I get a message that I don't have OpenPGP keyrings MO and have to create them first (correct, I don't use OpenPGP). Strange, because you do need to have OpenPGP enabled. MO If I disable OpenPGP the options Encrypt when completed and MO Sign when completed are greyed out. This is because OpenPGP is disabled. MO What am I doing wrong? You need to enable OpenPGP. Did you go to Tools/Options/OpenPGP/Choose OpenPGP Version and from that pop-up select pgp 6.5x? I don't think so and this is why you're getting the alert that you don't have OpenPGP keyrings. It's assuming that you're using the internal PGP version and will therefore prompt you to generate keys for use. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9BdJxV8nrYCsHF+IRAjtKAJ9vByY4V06ersPlO1N2sLKZeo+SNwCgxwQU TAJ52K2JOeUvchajoS6l6lY= =P/Xc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: euro sign
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Ochrid [O] wrote: ... O I have tried testing by sending myself e-mail but found that even O when the sign shows up properly in 'sent mail' , the receiver may O not always see the euro sign (¤) as it is meant. (It is *always* O shown correctly in my editor). O Two questions: O - Does this has to do with my settings only or with those on the O receiving end or both? The recipient is using a font that doesn't support the euro sign or is using the wrong character set. Usually, it's the first of the two. They will need to change to using a font that supports the euro character. O - How can I correct this and check it without being misled by my O editor. O (I am not a computer expert) Once you can see the euro sign, this means everything is OK at your end, i.e., you're using an appropriate character set and font. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9BdP0V8nrYCsHF+IRAnFCAKCPBZ4MdSqDg2WztNLp6BO1rjSmQgCgiQgH GJcYvnLu74oJj4HAehP6EEg= =twMc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: euro sign
Hello Peter,
Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 12:15:08 PM, you wrote:
Peter You can:
Peter 1.) _DISABLE_ 8bit character support in headers. It's not recommended to
Peter use them in headers.
Peter 2.) Enable 'Quoted-Printable' encoding of 8bit characters in your message
Peter body. ('Account' / 'Properties' / 'Mail management' / '8-bit characters
Peter are treated')
Peter 3.) Send yourself a test message containing the Euro symbol and have a look
Peter at the message source after receiving it. The position where you expect
Peter the Euro symbol should now be '=A4'. If so _your_ system is set up to
Peter send the correct encoding for Euro sign, IF the the 'Content-Type'
Peter value 'charset' is 'ISO-8859-15'.
Thanks very much for all that: despite not being an expert I
could follow your reasoning and instructions. I did as you
suggested, but nothing changed.
When I view the source of a message to myself, it shows the 'sun
symbol' , not a code.
(Again: on my screen, just reading the message, everything seems
fine).
Any more suggestions?
--
Regards,
Ochrid
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ot but please verify my sig?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Would someone be so kind as to verify my sig is working correctly please? MTIA Best regards, Dave Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBPQXVtYuowXdtlnXzEQJRCwCgzmapPLHqekFkIwhGlfnZBE2lkAQAoILm 5jETgsvR9QIKNdCwQhd7evqF =8JaL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: euro sign
Hello Allie, Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 12:41:55 PM, you wrote: Allie The recipient is using a font that doesn't support the euro sign or is Allie using the wrong character set. Usually, it's the first of the two. Allie They will need to change to using a font that supports the euro Allie character. This recipient uses Mozilla 4.73 and sees the euro sign properly on her screen. -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.60h op Windows XP _ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New HTML engine?
Hello Mitja, 11. junij 2002, 12:17:31, you wrote: MP You detect by extension which image it should be, try to display it if MP you can, otherwise leave it alone. That's not the problem. The problem is, that these images can be used for tracking - spammer can embed such image in text (with unique ID), and if the server gets the request for that image ID, it can confirm that the message was read - that the e-mail address exists. There are also other uses - eg. YahooGroups uses such images for advertizing, and every time you open the message with such inline image you get different AD... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60d on Windows 2000 5.0.2195.Service Pack 2] All great discoveries are made by mistake. -- Young's Law Corollary - The greater the funding, the longer it takes to make the mistake. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: euro sign
Hello Ochrid, On Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 12:45:52 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): O When I view the source of a message to myself, it shows the 'sun O symbol' , not a code. Than the message text is _not_ quoted-printable encoded. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) With faster machines comes slower software Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: euro sign
Hello Peter, Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 2:26:53 PM, you wrote: Peter Than the message text is _not_ quoted-printable encoded. this is what it says in source: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by maildrop4.xs4all.nl id g5BAc6J15890 euroteken : AltGr: ¤ alt 0128: ¤ What do I do wrong? -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.60h op Windows XP _ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[4]: euro sign
Hello, I have checked my font and found the euro symbol, so it is available on my computer. When I received the message however I got this ¤ (sun). I am using the 1.60q. Should not this work correctly then? -- Best regards, Mitja Perko Hi Mitja, I think the Euro is only displayed in EC countries :-) Seriously, Peter Palmreuther's message to Ochrid probably explains it. Regards, -Daan- -- Best regards, Mitja Perko Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: New HTML engine?
Hello Jernej, That's not the problem. The problem is, that these images can be used for tracking - spammer can embed such image in text (with unique ID), and if the server gets the request for that image ID, it can confirm that the message was read - that the e-mail address exists. There are also other uses - eg. YahooGroups uses such images for advertizing, and every time you open the message with such inline image you get different AD... Thank you for clarification. I understand the problem now. Maybe one could have an icon to click and the images would get loaded. Or even filter enabling/disabling loading. I currently miss images, because I am subscribed to a newsletter that contains images. Now I usually go online when I receive the message to read it because of that. -- Best regards, Mitja Perko Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: euro sign
Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 2:56:32 AM, you wrote: DvRC Hoi Ochrid, O may not always see the euro sign (¤) as it is meant. DvRC Well, it shows fine here. DvRC And you can always send me Euros :-) DvRC Regards, DvRC -Daan- Got the circle with the little tentacles here .. probably the font I'm using. Right now have Andale loaded, didn't show with Lucida Console, either. Lynn TB 1.60h Win2kPro Build 2195 SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[3]: New HTML engine?
Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 3:17:31 AM, you wrote: MP Hello Marck, It will never be there in that form. It's just too dangerous. I understand that support for retrieving non-sent images will be added at some point *BUT* it will only get one image at a time and prompt for permission for *each* image. This is because not all images *are* images. MP What is the problem with that? If they are not images MP you display nothing. MP You detect by extension which image it should be, try MP to display it if you can, otherwise leave it alone. Well, maybe not. As I understand it, the extension says it's a graphic, but it functions as a worm. So you don't want it loaded. Or at least, I'd rather skip it. Lynn TB 1.60h Win2kPro Build 2195 SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[5]: euro sign
Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 5:14:16 AM, you wrote: MP Hello, MP I have checked my font and found the euro symbol, so it is available MP on my computer. When I received the message however I got this ¤ MP (sun). I am using the 1.60q. Should not this work correctly then? MP -- MP Best regards, MP Mitja Perko Hi Mitja, I think the Euro is only displayed in EC countries :-) Seriously, Peter Palmreuther's message to Ochrid probably explains it. Regards, -Daan- Now, that one came through correctly .. Lynn TB 1.60h Win2kPro Build 2195 SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: euro sign
Hello Mitja, 11. junij 2002, 14:14:16, you wrote: MP I have checked my font and found the ¤ euro symbol, so it is available MP on my computer. When I received the message however I got this MP (sun). I am using the 1.60q. Should not this work correctly then? What do you see in this and in your message? (Yours was sent as iso-8859-1, while this is iso-8859-15) Euro: ¤ Sun: -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60d on Windows 2000 5.0.2195.Service Pack 2] If a thing is done wrong often enough, it becomes right. Corollary - Volume is a defense to error. -- Leahy's Law Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: euro sign
Guten Tag Lynn Turriff, am Dienstag, 11. Juni 2002 um 15:06 schrieben Sie: LT Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 5:14:16 AM, you wrote: MP Hello, MP I have checked my font and found the euro symbol, so it is available MP on my computer. When I received the message however I got this ¤ MP (sun). I am using the 1.60q. Should not this work correctly then? MP -- MP Best regards, MP Mitja Perko Hi Mitja, I think the Euro is only displayed in EC countries :-) Seriously, Peter Palmreuther's message to Ochrid probably explains it. Regards, -Daan- LT Now, that one came through correctly .. LT Lynn LT TB 1.60h LT Win2kPro Build 2195 SP2 I Want to be unsubscribed !!! -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Michael Rupflin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Bold Font
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, I really do need some help in finding a bold monospaced font. Hopefully others on this list have found a place to download some. I usually use Arial Bold as my font of choice. I have not had any luck in finding anything in a monospace font for ude with the bat and others that need a fixed font. I am useing W2K, and only have one lucid sans typewriter bold but would like to at least find one or two more to try out. Bad eues need bolder fonts, I even purchaced four from a vendor, only to find out after the fact that I can not use them asd a stand alone font. Best regards, Frank D. Hubeny ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPQYBcTTXvbjmKKD/EQKEUQCfVvaZJ7pkm/JNd8egNeXUgBtlkXkAoJcA QwhusK6tXNWMGk6F2ETsEhvO =CJYq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Bold Font
Guten Tag Frank D. Hubeny, PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME FROM THIS LIST. I DO GET T MUCH MAILS !! am Dienstag, 11. Juni 2002 um 15:55 schrieben Sie: FDH -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- FDH Hash: SHA1 FDH Hello tbudl, FDH I really do need some help in finding a bold monospaced font. FDH Hopefully others on this list have found a place to download some. I FDH usually use Arial Bold as my font of choice. I have not had any luck FDH in finding anything in a monospace font for ude with the bat and FDH others that need a fixed font. I am useing W2K, and only have one FDH lucid sans typewriter bold but would like to at least find one or two FDH more to try out. Bad eues need bolder fonts, I even purchaced four from FDH a vendor, only to find out after the fact that I can not use them asd a FDH stand alone font. FDH FDH Best regards, FDH Frank D. Hubeny FDH ' FDH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- FDH iQA/AwUBPQYBcTTXvbjmKKD/EQKEUQCfVvaZJ7pkm/JNd8egNeXUgBtlkXkAoJcA FDH QwhusK6tXNWMGk6F2ETsEhvO FDH =CJYq FDH -END PGP SIGNATURE- FDH FDH Current Ver: 1.60q FDH FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com FDH Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FDH Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com FDH Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FDH TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FDH Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Michael Rupflin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Bold Font
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Frank Hubeny [FH] wrote: ... FH I really do need some help in finding a bold monospaced font. Try here: http://home.bsu.edu/prn/monofont/index.html If there doesn't help then try a google search. Though there are monospaced fonts out there, there are few that have a wide character support. These are Andale Mono, Lucida Console and Courier New. I can't think of any other with as complete a character support as these. I currently use Lucida Console that looks great at a high screen resolution. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9BgD9V8nrYCsHF+IRAn1rAKDvZRYZ+f1lxYgxmKpoNHDHQt6yngCghdV3 yHjqFZKrxpQ0DwicZKRKAZ0= =5FbT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Bold Font
On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, Michael Rupflin wrote... Guten Tag Frank D. Hubeny, PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME FROM THIS LIST. I DO GET T MUCH MAILS !! Instructions are at the footer of every email ;) FDH Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Bold Font
Guten Tag Jonathan Angliss, am Dienstag, 11. Juni 2002 um 15:55 schrieben Sie: JA On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, Michael Rupflin wrote... Guten Tag Frank D. Hubeny, PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME FROM THIS LIST. I DO GET T MUCH MAILS !! JA Instructions are at the footer of every email ;) FDH Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] but doesnot work ;-;-)),---))) -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Michael Rupflin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New HTML engine?
Hello Mitja, On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:54:46 +0200GMT (11-6-02, 13:54 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: MP Maybe one could have an icon to click and the images would get loaded. MP Or even filter enabling/disabling loading. I currently miss images, MP because I am subscribed to a newsletter that contains images. Now I MP usually go online when I receive the message to read it because of that. You realize of course that when TB shows on-line images, you'll need to go on-line too. It's just that it's now a conscious decision, whereas otherwise it would be an automatic connection. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Oe import
On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, Ravindra Maharaj wrote... RO You started what's essentially a new thread by replying to another RO message. That means it shows up as listed in another thread. I see. I ignorantly thought that by changing the subject line, I'd start a new thread - but now I understand that the threads are determined by code in the message header. Cool ... Unlike Outlook/Outlook Express, TB! uses more effective methods of threading such as the Reference, and In-Repy-To headers. In Outlook, if you try threading, I believe it does it by subject, and maybe the In-Reply-To tag (if it sets it). This is what causes the 'issue' you just had ;) I've been using TB for only half a night, and I can already see that I'll keep using it for a long time. It's the best email client I've come across... still trying to get it working on my Linux machine at home ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Bold Font
On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, Michael Rupflin wrote... Guten Tag Jonathan Angliss, am Dienstag, 11. Juni 2002 um 15:55 schrieben Sie: but doesnot work ;-;-)),---))) lol... wouldn't know... I have no need to unsubscribe, I find this list very useful... I pick up more stuff every day ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re:Bold Font
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michael, @11 June 2002, 15:49:03 +0200 (14:49 UK time) Michael Rupflin wrote this to Frank D. Hubeny As for this: PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME FROM THIS LIST. I DO GET T MUCH MAILS !! moderator I have already written to you off list about this appalling behaviour. Frank can't help you, why write to him? /moderator Look at all this in your grossly over-quoted reply: FDH FDH Current Ver: 1.60q FDH FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com FDH Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FDH Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com FDH Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FDH TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FDH Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com See where it says unsubscribe? See where it says moderators? How unclear is that? I am on a short fuse today so, since you can't be bothered to read properly, I can't be bothered to help you. I've set your entry in the list as Moderated. You can no longer send anything to this list. Until you ask the right person in the right way, you're stuck with T MUCH MAILS. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9BgNzOeQkq5KdzaARAojgAJ9kKr/IN/S0zgz3ILxDzdGqPiVPUACg0c8K PBawCWDiDsZwJC48uJKFwbE= =oRk3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New HTML engine?
On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, Roelof Otten wrote... You realize of course that when TB shows on-line images, you'll need to go on-line too. It's just that it's now a conscious decision, whereas otherwise it would be an automatic connection. Plus you have the issue that image files may not always be what they say they are... there are a lot of viruses floating about running under the .jpg or .gif file extension... last thing you want is for TB! to wander off, download and execute an image from an infected site ;) I personally think TB!s inability to do inline images is actually a good thing... if I wanted to see a web page, I'd open up Internet Explorer, or Netscape... not TB! ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: ot but please verify my sig?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Replying to your message of Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 4:49:13 AM: dcn Would someone be so kind as to verify my sig is working correctly dcn please? Looks good on this end...to me at least. - -- Pete Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:06:15 AM This e-mail is brought to you by: The Bat: Version 1.60q Windows 2000 build 2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com Comment: PGP Key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGP%20Keys iQA/AwUBPQYD93E/NISQI2eeEQJ/bQCgyOV5m6sI4/OS8ltaE5GYiHZow20AoIFo A1vWnFs65sjBjzcMgJY6xoEl =U9M7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Bold Font
On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 9:57:51 AM, Michael Rupflin wrote: FDH Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MR but doesnot work ;-;-)),---))) Yes it does. -- Using The Bat! v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Bold Font
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @11 June 2002, 09:03:02 -0500 (15:03 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] but doesnot work ;-;-)),---))) lol... wouldn't know... I have no need to unsubscribe, I find this list very useful... I pick up more stuff every day ;) Actually, it works fine, but Mr. Rupflin hasn't even bothered to ask what he's doing wrong. His first attempt at finding out is to shout LET ME OUT at all the members. I'm all out of nice today, so if Mr. Rupflin can calm down and ask me nicely *off-list*, I'll manually unsubscribe him. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator -- in a bad mood TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9BgSdOeQkq5KdzaARAr3FAKDUkHnaoQC22cTFTxj7uC/e5mn/HwCg/jAn 4QjtT8a7ShMujUDFcBthllY= =VvEc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
AVG or NOD32?
Hi all, I think the title say's it all, should I use AVG or NOD32 as my Anti-Virus? I must confess, AVG seems to be working seamlessly with The Bat!, but I have concerns that AVG isn't as good as it could be at trapping virus's (although, it did catch Klez yesterday and added it to the quarantine!). Whereas, I here NOD32 is really good at it's job, but isn't quite as seamless with The Bat! If I used NOD32, I'd like it to link in with The Bat! and scan when mails come in rather than on the server, but it appears there's a problem with the options once the plug-in is added? Can people elaborate and help me make this decision? Thanks, Chris. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Re[2]: Status on 2.0?
On 6/10/02 at 4:47 PM Ricardo M. Reyes wrote: El sábado 8 de junio de 2002, 7.53, Yuki Taga decía: YT Do you happen to have any word on whether full DBCS support is still YT going to be included? may I ask what is DBCS? = Double byte character support Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: AVG or NOD32?
Replying to your message of Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 7:12:15 AM: WC Can people elaborate and help me make this decision? Chris, I can help you with this but it wouldn't be using NOD or AVG. We have a solution that will work seamlessly with TB! or any other email client. Your email will be scanned coming in and going outon the fly. Viruses coming in will be stopped at the Winsock layer and will not have a chance to get near your inbox. You will also be able to control spam from it by blocking certain words, phrases, email addresses or whole domains. Out of the box, any extension such as .exe, .pif, scr, .com and a few others will automatically be blocked. These of course can be altered if you feel the need to email files of these extensions (another topic). List members: please note that I am not doing this as a shameless plug. This is my business just as TB! is some of yours. People need to be made aware that there are better solutions than just the ones they are familiar with. If you would like to know more, contact me privately please. -- Pete Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:23:49 AM This e-mail is brought to you by: The Bat: Version 1.60q Windows 2000 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Oe import
Hello Jonathan, On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 08:59:22 -0500GMT (11-6-02, 15:59 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: JA Unlike Outlook/Outlook Express, TB! uses more effective methods of JA threading such as the Reference, and In-Repy-To headers. /Whisper mode on If you'd looked carefully, you would have seen that he uses OE and included the references headers. A news client like OE really needs threading by references. I'm not sure to what extent OE supports this mode of thread viewing in e-mail folders. /Wisper mode off JA In Outlook, if you try threading, I believe it does it by subject, JA and maybe the In-Reply-To tag (if it sets it). This is what causes JA the 'issue' you just had ;) We're used to threading by references, because all of us use the same software (that happens to support this feature). Whereas on other lists people use lots of different clients and in that case threading by references is useless. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Oe import
On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, Roelof Otten wrote... /Whisper mode on If you'd looked carefully, you would have seen that he uses OE and included the references headers. A news client like OE really needs threading by references. I'm not sure to what extent OE supports this mode of thread viewing in e-mail folders. /Wisper mode off lol... they changed it then... I used to use OE 4 all the time, and I could never get it to thread on any list... only newsgroups were half threaded correctly. I stand corrected, my appologise ;) We're used to threading by references, because all of us use the same software (that happens to support this feature). Whereas on other lists people use lots of different clients and in that case threading by references is useless. Understood... but most of the other clients I've used thread by reference, and in-reply-to tags as well... like Sylpheed (linux), MailWarrior (I think it does threading), and a couple of others. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
2?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, I have noticed some really nicely formated replies on this list. I sis have two questions. First, sometimes I will recieve nicely blocked quotes. Is this what the wrap macro does. Second, I at one time did use the full name with the quoted material i.e. Frank D. Hubeny . But was told it was archaic and meseed up some folks wrapping. But I do see this alot from this list, and it does look good, clears up who said what so to speak. Is the problem with the fact that I did not use a wrap with my quoted material. Best regards, Frank D. Hubeny . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPQYUJTTXvbjmKKD/EQIbGwCeOFcqA57uMEDKUxmyLEBbQlHoLeMAoPMe HmMwVkpp9hl6Awnaxu10kFgS =Y6eK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Yahoo! question
Hello Bat Folk. I belong to several lists on Yahoo! with variations on the same subject [like TBUDL, TBTECH, TBOT] which I filter to a single folder. I also have a separate AB group for these similar lists. Sometimes I write a msg that applies to all of them I use the TB! list function to do it. I've noticed, as of late, that although my posts do end up on the Yahoo! servers, they aren't forwarded to me even tho my subscription is set to rcv individual emails. Do you suppose the list function has anything to do with this situation? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60q/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Yahoo! question
Hello Jan, Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 5:08:40 PM, you wrote: Jan I've noticed, as of late, that although my posts do end up Jan on the Yahoo! servers, they aren't forwarded to me even Jan tho my subscription is set to rcv individual emails. You haven't got Spambot working for you, have you? -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.60h op Windows XP _ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Yahoo! question
On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, Jan Rifkinson wrote... Do you suppose the list function has anything to do with this situation? It shouldn't do... when you send it, TB! just replaces the list with the real email addresses it is sending it to. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
RE: Delivery Read Receipts.
... WC Is there a way you can default confirm and read receipts? I've WC seen it somewhere but can't remember where. It's in the account options. You can request read confirmations or receipt requests by toggling the respective switch for the accounts new message templates. There are macros for this as well and I recommend using them instead of enabling account level requests which would have a receipt request placed in every message from the account. The last thing you wish to do is send read receipt requests to a discussion list. %RCPTCONFIRM set the Receipt Request flag for the current message %READCONFIRM set the Reading Confirmation Request flag for the current message %NORCPTCONFIRM disable the Receipt Request flag for the current message %NOREADCONFIRM disable the Reading Confirmation Request flag for the current message Thanks for these Allie, although, I don't really send many mails to big distribution list's so would like to set them permanently. You can automate your receipt request response at the account level. Look in the account properties/Templates/Read confirmations. You can also adjust how you respond to read receipts at the folder level. Look in the folders properties under read confirmations. WC Also, when you forward a message, can these be set again without WC having to update the settings manually by right clicking on the WC options? I don't understand you here. Sorry, here's a better explanation. When I forward or reply to a message, the delivery and read receipts always seem to be off and I have to manually change them. Can this be set in The Bat! so that every message I send is defaulted to having a delivery and read receipt? By the way, I've removed Word and HTML and added prefixing. Is it better? Also, when I send messages to the list, I don't seem to be receiving it anymore!?!? Any idea? Thanks, Chris. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9BdFQV8nrYCsHF+IRAlP0AKDIkiw3UcSs7JyCsQxHSNTpZDIG0wCffajZ swVEI3oTogZA3yaBsh61loA= =1h4e -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
AB group order
[1.60q] How can the order of groups be changed within a particular address book? -- JN Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 2?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 11:15 AM, you wrote: FDH Second, I at one time did use the full name with the quoted material FDH i.e. Frank D. Hubeny . But was told it was archaic and meseed up some FDH folks wrapping. But I do see this alot from this list, and it does look FDH good, clears up who said what so to speak. Is the problem with the fact FDH that I did not use a wrap with my quoted material. Hi Frank, if you right-click on the account in the left-panel, select properties. then go to templates. Hit the PLUS (+) symbol to expand it, select the REPLY template. There is a section below that starts with Sender information. Here you can select names, initials as you can see I use initials, it still shows who said what, but it doesn't take up alot of space ! / Paul Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPQYWHT3ZlJQqDEkFEQJoEACgqrTMGZ2VHqnhvN7kioesYnE8dTEAoLma taFib05X316+GoXRD8vOjeBN =vHGo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Marking Up a Received Message
Howdy TheBatUsers, Is it possible to edit (mark up) a received message in TB? Outlook has this feature and I liked using it to add notes to received messages. Thanks. -- Chris Montgomery Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
two question about replying (was: 2?)
Hello Frank, first let me explain you subject didn't say ANYTHING to me ... I think it would be better to choose one similar to the one I changed it to next time. On Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 5:15:44 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): FDH First, sometimes I will recieve nicely blocked quotes. Is this what the FDH wrap macro does. In fact it does. '%WRAPPED' wraps the given text (the argument) at the position you've set up in your editor settings. FDH Second, I at one time did use the full name with the quoted material FDH i.e. Frank D. Hubeny . But was told it was archaic and meseed up some FDH folks wrapping. Not only wrapping, but much more quote coloring. I've set a limit of 6 for quoting sign recognition. This means: if a line starts with a character different from white space and there's a 'greater than' character within the first 6 characters this line is treated as 'quotation'. Using the above example every line of quotation you send would not be recognized over here, as 'greater than' is the 17th character. I'd suggest you use 'Initials' as quoting prefix, if any. They're usually short, concise and most the time within even a small prefix-limitation. Additionally they make clear who wrote what as good as full names, except some _VERY_ rare situations. FDH . This should be dashdashspaceenter to be a recognizable signature delimiter. PGP will change it to '- --', but this will be caught by the reply macro me (and several others) use too. A single period OTOH will presumably never be automatically treated as cut indicator. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) If people behaved like governments, you'd call the cops. -- Kelvin Throop Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: AVG or NOD32?
11 June 2002, 14:12, you wrote: WC Hi all, WC If I used NOD32, I'd like it to link in with The Bat! and scan when mails WC come in rather than on the server, but it appears there's a problem with the WC options once the plug-in is added? NOD32 comes with an excellent POP3 scanner that's easy to configure and works well with TB. Forget the (beta) plug in that's mentioned here. It doesn't really add any functionality at present. Go for NOD - you won't regret it. -- Clive Taylor Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Bold Font
Guten tag Michael, PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME FROM THIS LIST. I DO GET T MUCH MAILS!! Sie mussen Mail zu [EMAIL PROTECTED] senden aus Mail addresse sie haben dieses mail bekommen. Dann mussen Sie weitergeben ein Bestatigung zu [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S.: Maybe he does not understand English enough? -- Best regards, Mitja Perko Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: euro sign
Hello Jernej, Hello Mitja, 11. junij 2002, 14:14:16, you wrote: What do you see in this and in your message? (Yours was sent as iso-8859-1, while this is iso-8859-15) Euro: ¤ (sun) Sun: (b and T merged, after setting the encoding iso-8859-1 when replying euro again) How did you get iso-8859-15? I do not have it in the list. -- Best regards, Mitja Perko Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[3]: New HTML engine?
Hello Mitja, Plus you have the issue that image files may not always be what they say they are... there are a lot of viruses floating about running under the .jpg or .gif file extension... last thing you want is for TB! to wander off, download and execute an image from an infected site ;) Well, maybe not. As I understand it, the extension says it's a graphic, but it functions as a worm. This is wrong belief to my knowledge. You do not go executing images. You read them and try to display them. If format is not right then component for reading the image will report it and you will skip the image. Images must have a valid header and data format. The thing is the same as with phrase TB! is not engine but renderer. You also only render images. Also one can send you html with attached images (which are in fact scripts) right now and nothing is wrong. Here we are only talking about downloading images if they are not attached. You realize of course that when TB shows on-line images, you'll need to go on-line too. It's just that it's now a conscious decision, whereas otherwise it would be an automatic connection. Hmm.. I thought the images get cached. At least Netscape mail did this. This is quite nice since you do not need to go online to view the html with images. Although I forgot if caching was until the browser was closed or longer. -- Best regards, Mitja Perko Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: euro sign
Hello Ochrid, On Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 2:36:19 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): O What do I do wrong? These two lines are 'wrong' ,-= [ ] =- | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit | X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by maildrop4.xs4all.nl id |g5BAc6J15890 `-= Seems your e-mail service provider auto-converts your quoted-printable message bodies to 8bit. Not really nice, though. Enable 'local delivery' in 'Options' / 'Network Administration' and send yourself a test message, or even more simple: don't actually send the message but 'Save' it and open the message source from 'Outbox' ... -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) History repeats itself. That's one thing wrong with history. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New HTML engine?
On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, Mitja Perko wrote... This is wrong belief to my knowledge. You do not go executing images. You read them and try to display them. If format is not right then component for reading the image will report it and you will skip the image. Images must have a valid header and data format. Then how would you explain viruses spreading via the .jpg and .gif formats? They have 'code' in the headers that the viewer (in most cases IE) reads and 'executes'... which causes infection. Also one can send you html with attached images (which are in fact scripts) right now and nothing is wrong. Here we are only talking about downloading images if they are not attached. Same issue occurs, although if you have a virus scanner, they should be caught ;) Hmm.. I thought the images get cached. At least Netscape mail did this. This is quite nice since you do not need to go online to view the html with images. Although I forgot if caching was until the browser was closed or longer. But because it's in Netscape, netscape being a browser and all, it gets cached with the browsers settings... while TB! isn't a web browser, so might not cache them. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Delivery Read Receipts.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Weaven, Christopherx [WC] wrote: WC Thanks for these Allie, although, I don't really send many mails WC to big distribution list's so would like to set them permanently. One of TB!'s great strengths is that it offers global as well as specific options. If you can fine tune something as this, I'd advise that you do so to prevent unwanted read/receipt confirmation requests. Using the macros can be set and forget as with the account level settings. It's just that you would invoke them when sending mail to particular addresses or addresses within an address book group or messages being sent from particular folders. Of course the final choice rests with you. Just making sure that you fully understand your options. WC When I forward or reply to a message, the delivery and read WC receipts always seem to be off and I have to manually change them. I don't use these options but upon checking you're right. The account options to enable receipt and read confirmation requests is only for new messages. You'll therefore have to use the macros afterall. You can place them at the end of you reply and forward templates. %Readconfirm %rcptconfirm WC Can this be set in The Bat! so that every message I send is WC defaulted to having a delivery and read receipt? Only if you use account level templates, then you can put the macros in the account level reply and forward templates. Otherwise you'll have to go through all your templates and add them. WC By the way, I've removed Word and HTML and added prefixing. Is it better? Yes, it is. WC Also, when I send messages to the list, I don't seem to be receiving it WC anymore!?!? Any idea? I don't know what the problem is there. Syafril and Marck have control of that aspect. They should be reading this and will shortly comment on it I'd expect. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9Bho3V8nrYCsHF+IRAs+DAKDZen0kb5VOeJJtYcafd1I1opwYJwCfb16U MbldFpmJ+tN54wk5gYVsWbM= =2+nX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New HTML engine?
Hello Mitja, On Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 5:16:44 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): You realize of course that when TB shows on-line images, you'll need to go on-line too. It's just that it's now a conscious decision, whereas otherwise it would be an automatic connection. MP Hmm.. I thought the images get cached. At least Netscape mail did MP this. This is quite nice since you do not need to go online to view the MP html with images. Although I forgot if caching was until the browser MP was closed or longer. And there the difference is: Netscape, as a _Browser_ already has caching capabilities. So it can use them in the (poor) mail module too. The Bat! has none. Additionally: even with a caching algorithm The Bat! would finally have to go online to fetch the images once. Quite the same as if you double click the 'attachment' (message.html) of this particular newsletter and open it in your browser. If this browser caches it can display the images second or third time opening the HTML-file too ... So ... No problem at all. If you insist in the images you're free of open the HTML-page in your browser (which is BTW designed to display HTML pages) and if you're interested in the pure textual information the newsletter offers you can read in within The Bat! (which is BTW designed to display e-mails and textual information, not complex HTML pages with funny colored elements). -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Click ... click ... click ... damn, out of taglines! Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Marking Up a Received Message
Hello Chris, On Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 5:26:30 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): CM Is it possible to edit (mark up) a received message in TB? Outlook CM has this feature and I liked using it to add notes to received CM messages. Simple: No. More detailed: you can add 'Memos' to messages. Have a look at menu 'View' / 'Memo auto-view' and right click the column headers in message list to activate displaying of 'Memo' column. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Regardless of what you may think, this is NOT a tagline. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Bold Font
Hello Mitja, On Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 5:29:03 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): MP P.S.: Maybe he does not understand English enough? if so he should not have subscribed an _English_ user discussion list. :-) Nevertheless I've dropped him a note with the very same information you already gave on-list per private mail. Even if he does not speak English he should be able to understand my German :-))) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Gene Roddenberry showed you the future. Make it so. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: euro sign
Hello Mitja, On Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 5:20:09 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): MP How did you get iso-8859-15? I do not have it in the list. 'Options' / 'XLAT Tables' / 'Reset' should enable 'Latin-9 (ISO-8859-15)' for you. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Anthony's Law of Force: Don't force it; get a larger hammer. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: AVG or NOD32?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Clive Taylor [CT] wrote: CT NOD32 comes with an excellent POP3 scanner that's easy to CT configure and works well with TB. Forget the (beta) plug in that's CT mentioned here. It doesn't really add any functionality at CT present. Go for NOD - you won't regret it. Will NOD32's POP3 scanner create a quarantine folder *within TB!'s interface*, where infected messages are stored and the attachments non-executable? See capture image here: http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/quarantine.PNG Will it strip infected attachments and let you receive a message with this attached as seen in the capture: http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/strip.png PS// To those reading this message long after its posting: I can't guarantee these links will always work :-) - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9Bh3VV8nrYCsHF+IRApm4AKCMv/hKHiJuQgOjFkHTOZNf+oesGACdEiLi 6wYsCLFD8WfhsJ9OFZzQ7E8= =mZWB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: euro sign
Hello Peter, Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 5:34:07 PM, you wrote: Peter Seems your e-mail service provider auto-converts your quoted-printable Peter message bodies to 8bit. Peter Enable 'local delivery' in 'Options' / 'Network Peter Administration' Sorry for being such a bore, but could you tell me where I can find that option? I have a Dutch version of The Bat! and can usually 'translate back' but I have been unable to find 'local delivery' Thanks for all your trouble. -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.60h op Windows XP _ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 2?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Om 17:24 op dinsdag 11 juni 2002, Paul Cartwright: FDH Second, I at one time did use the full name with the quoted material FDH i.e. Frank D. Hubeny . But was told it was archaic and meseed up some FDH folks wrapping. But I do see this alot from this list, and it does look FDH good, clears up who said what so to speak. Is the problem with the fact FDH that I did not use a wrap with my quoted material. if you right-click on the account in the left-panel, select properties. then go to templates. Hit the PLUS (+) symbol to expand it, select the REPLY template. There is a section below that starts with Sender information. Here you can select names, initials as you can see I use initials, it still shows who said what, but it doesn't take up alot of space ! It is, like the Re[2]: reply-extension, only usable when mailing to another thebat! user, like one would expect on this list. If someone with another mailclient, say, mozilla, reformats a reply to your message with these FDH replymarkers, it *will* fuck up their wrapping. The replymarker is ''. Period. Get used to it. Mrten. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt7 iQA/AwUBPQYRWktQMadp+KslEQJNBwCfVVHc8ayAlsEksaK26HhunqRpxasAnRGB sKdN+FwG9rfaNNQFT0rFy81F =Da1W -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New HTML engine?
On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, Peter Palmreuther wrote... JA Then how would you explain viruses spreading via the .jpg and JA .gif formats? Because the wide spread usage of Outlook and Outlook Express?!?!?!?! Indeed What happens is: this object is announced as an 'image' by a 'Content-Type: image/jpg' or something similar. Yes... that is true. This is no problem, but in fact the extension is e.g. '.pif' or '.bat' or '.com'. Not always the case... I have mine set to not hide any file extensions at all, and have had three .jpg files on my PC that were infected with a virus, and on execution on our test machine (has no network connections, only a floppy drive for testing), attempting to open the files causes the browser (because it is an issue with IE in most cases that causes this) to 'execute' the image, the browser then returns the big red X to show it's not a valid image, but does in fact infect the machine. This is no problem too ... except ... except the 'what ever tries to handle the object' does not enforce the object _trying to be rendered as an image_ but executes a system call to 'start' the object, WHICH FINALLY executes the '.pif' or whatever. In most recent cases this is true... Klez is just a pif in most cases, hidden as a .scr, .doc, .jpg by the content-type header. So the problem ain't there's a '.jpg' _in name_, and the problem ain't wrong rendering, but a wrong executed system call on an _executable_ file. Depends... if it's a double extension file, it always goes for the last extension, which would be a .pif, .com, .exe (etc), in which case, the image program (be it IE, photoshop, paintshop etc) wouldn't even load, and the *correct* program for executing that program will be called... here is an example, copy a standalone program, and rename it to oldname.jpg.exe... it still executes as a .exe and doesn't even load IE (in my case). Disable the 'Hide file extensions for known file types' in your explorer settings (not Internet Explorer!!! Explorer ... the file manager!) and you'll see: none of these 's dangerous' image files _is_ an image file. Not just known file types... just get it to always show the file types ;) That is one good thing about TB!, it warns you about double extensions, even if you don't have them visible. They changed some code in Outlook/Outlook Express recently that won't let you execute .exe files from inside the emails... a semi-good idea I guess. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: New HTML engine?
Hi Jonathan, JA Then how would you explain viruses spreading via the .jpg and .gif JA formats? They have 'code' in the headers that the viewer (in most JA cases IE) reads and 'executes'... which causes infection. I've never heard of that and I don't think it's true; these formats have no executable code inside, and browsers make no attempt to execute them. However, what does exist is filenames with a double extension, such as naked.gif.exe or bigones.jpg.scr. Those filenames display as naked.gif and bigones.jpg in most programs, but are in fact executable, and some viruses make use of this. Regards, -Daan- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 2?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 12:03 PM, you wrote: M If someone with another mailclient, say, mozilla, reformats a reply to M your message with these FDH replymarkers, it *will* fuck up their M wrapping. M The replymarker is ''. Period. Get used to it. that's OK, I'll continue to do it my way, but thanks for the kind words :) M Mrten. / Paul Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPQYhnz3ZlJQqDEkFEQKwvQCg++iFkz9bKplosDjN2UMcDH05eVwAnjc0 O0A3Y5DdpCjBEXaqcEjJCQF/ =an+0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 2?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mrten [M] wrote: M your message with these FDH replymarkers, it *will* up their moderator Profanity is expressly prohibited on this list! Thank you. /moderator - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9BiFpV8nrYCsHF+IRAvgxAKCujDX7ljENR2H7A7i2Duug2yK1JgCg9nhB +3vLAGG11z7/VFNeOTONniQ= =/iVv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New HTML engine?
On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote... I've never heard of that and I don't think it's true; these formats have no executable code inside, and browsers make no attempt to execute them. However, what does exist is filenames with a double extension, such as naked.gif.exe or bigones.jpg.scr. Those filenames display as naked.gif and bigones.jpg in most programs, but are in fact executable, and some viruses make use of this. Guess I need to give an example... Take... erm... SubSeven. Has a small program that 'encapsulates' files... Run it onto a .jpg file it increases the .jpg file by maybe 300kb... file extension is *still* .jpg (no hidden extensions, or anything like that), and the file is now executable, and causes infection with the subseven trojan. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: AVG or NOD32?
11 June 2002, 16:57, you wrote: ACM Will NOD32's POP3 scanner create a quarantine folder *within TB!'s ACM interface*, where infected messages are stored and the attachments ACM non-executable? No, thank God. I don't want infected messages anywhere near my database - let alone allowing TB to create a folder to house it. ACM Will it strip infected attachments and let you receive a message with ACM this attached as seen in the capture: No. If I'm sent an infected message I delete it. Period. -- Clive Taylor Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: euro sign
Hello Ochrid, On Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 6:04:03 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): Peter Enable 'local delivery' in 'Options' / 'Network Peter Administration' O Sorry for being such a bore, but could you tell me where I can O find that option? I have a Dutch version of The Bat! and can O usually 'translate back' but I have been unable to find 'local O delivery' If you open 'Options' / 'Network Administration' on the _first_ tab sheet there's a checkbox at the very lower end. If in doubt temporarily change back the GUI language to 'English' and compare. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) I'd love to, but I'm giving nuisance lessons at a convenience store. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New HTML engine?
Hello Jonathan, On Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 6:10:28 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): Disable the 'Hide file extensions for known file types' in your explorer settings (not Internet Explorer!!! Explorer ... the file manager!) and you'll see: none of these 's dangerous' image files _is_ an image file. JA Not just known file types... just get it to always show the file types JA ;) IIRC it already shows extension if file type, means extension, if unknown. So disabling this option will automatically lead to shown file extension on all files. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Software Independent: Won't work w/ any software Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Yahoo! question
Hello Ochrid. At 11:15 AM on Tuesday, June 11, 2002 you wrote the following about [Yahoo! question]: Ochrid Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 5:08:40 PM, you wrote: Jan I've noticed, as of late, that although my posts do Jan end up on the Yahoo! servers, they aren't forwarded to Jan me even tho my subscription is set to rcv individual Jan emails. Ochrid You haven't got Spambot working for you, have you? Nope. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60q/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Yahoo! question
Thanks, Jonathan. Jonathan [...] TB! just replaces the list with the real Jonathan email addresses it is sending it to. [/...] -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60q/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New HTML engine?
Hello Jonathan, On Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 6:19:56 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): JA Guess I need to give an example... Take... erm... SubSeven. Has a JA small program that 'encapsulates' files... Run it onto a .jpg file it JA increases the .jpg file by maybe 300kb... file extension is *still* JA .jpg (no hidden extensions, or anything like that), and the file is JA now executable, and causes infection with the subseven trojan. If this is true IE simply parses the beginning of that file and executes a system call as already mentioned in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Try installing Irfan View (http://www.irfanview.com/) and make it handle '.jpg' files per default. Now open the file 'the normal way', I assume you double clicked it. See IrfanView give your the error message and check if the infection is still done?! No? I guess so it's not! Why? Because IE su**z and tries to be 'clever' ... it executes system calls similar to when you type start my_document.doc on command line (which opens Word or whatever is assigned to handle '.doc'), without any serious reason. If a file is named '.jpg' and IE is setup to handle '.jpg' and it knows '.jpg' is _an image format_, it should only call functions to render an (JPG-)image, nothing more, nothing less. If this image is invalid an error message has to appear. Nothing more, nothing less. No additional execution of whatever. But as already mentioned: try this with IrfanView, and I guess (I nearly bet my *** *G*) it wont execute even a single bit of malicious code :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) When you don't have an education, you've got to use your brains. - Anonymous - Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: euro sign
Hello Peter, Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 6:30:57 PM, you wrote: Peter Enable 'local delivery' in 'Options' / 'Network Peter Administration' Thank you so much, that did it! I had been too tired and looked at the wrong Options ( Properties). It took a while, but I've got my sign. (Now I must think of a reason for using it...) -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.60h op Windows XP _ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New HTML engine?
On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, Peter Palmreuther wrote... JA Guess I need to give an example... Take... erm... SubSeven. Has a JA small program that 'encapsulates' files... Run it onto a .jpg file it JA increases the .jpg file by maybe 300kb... file extension is *still* JA .jpg (no hidden extensions, or anything like that), and the file is JA now executable, and causes infection with the subseven trojan. If this is true IE simply parses the beginning of that file and executes a system call as already mentioned in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Try installing Irfan View (http://www.irfanview.com/) and make it handle '.jpg' files per default. I'll have to have a go... but I doubt it... we setup paintshop pro on the test machine with .jpg extensions mapped to it, and it still infected... might just be me though ;) And I agree... IE does things it should do ;) But so do a lot of Microsoft products :PP -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: New HTML engine?
Hi Peter, PP If you insist in the images you're free of open the HTML-page in PP your browser (which is BTW designed to display HTML pages) I sympathize with your plight of text-only e-mail, and I'd like to add that the true netpurist will only use a plain, fixed-width font. However, the Net has long been handed over to the savages, and HTML has become sort of an e-mail standard. So, if an HTML attachment is delivered with local images and all, I think TB should show them. Animated GIFs, too! :-) Remote images and other embedded objects should be optional - when they're turned off, perhaps TB could display some frivolous local pictures in their place. ZentrumDerArbeit.org Between your participation in this list, and (I'm sure) watching the Mannschaft, I have to wonder if you're still getting any Arbeit done! :-) Mit freundlichem Gruss, -Daan- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: AVG or NOD32?
On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, Allie C Martin wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: See capture image here: [...] as seen in the capture: [...] Allie, The screen caps show a different font in the header display and the folder tree than I can get. I can't find a place to set those, and changing other settings won't get them to show as anything but Arial. How did you modify the font of your folder tree and header display? -- JN Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
invisible address book
Hello TBUDL, I saved my TB 1.53 address book as txt to a floppy, before reformatting my hard drive. I have now upgraded to TB 1.60 and imported my addresses back. Although, in the main program, I am able to access my address book(s). But when I am in the new message screen (new/reply/forward) I am unable to pull up any addresses. I remember this happening when I upgraded from 1.43 to 1.49, and it had something to do with the way I was making the address books? That was a while back. What am I doing wrong here? Thanks. Joanne -- Best regards, Joanne mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] using Windows2000 pro, IE5.5 svc pk2, TB 1.60 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New HTML engine?
Hello Daniel,
On Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 6:48:34 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):
DvRC I sympathize with your plight of text-only e-mail, and I'd like to add
DvRC that the true netpurist will only use a plain, fixed-width font.
:-) You've three guesses what's the font of my choice for reading e-mail *ggg*
DvRC So, if an HTML attachment is delivered with local images and all, I
DvRC think TB should show them.
And so it does :-) It shows all images sent with the message, declared to
have a 'cid' and referenced in the message by this 'cid' ... :-)
All like in RFCs about this type of fancy content-linking/embedding :-)
DvRC Remote images and other embedded objects should be optional - when
DvRC they're turned off, perhaps TB could display some frivolous local
DvRC pictures in their place.
So it does :-) A yellow exclamation mark is shown for every non-local
image :-)
DvRC ZentrumDerArbeit.org
DvRC Between your participation in this list, and (I'm sure) watching the
DvRC Mannschaft,
('Mannschaft' = 'team', for the non-German-speakers)
*hehe* The former is very intensive, I've to admit :-) The latter was done
the first time today :-) Usually it's enough for me to get the result (even
if not I don't really care *G*) and have a look at the most interesting
scenes at evening (if I have spare time to watch TV :-)).
As today the price was the move to 8th-final and all others colleagues
watched the game, I did so too :-)
If there wouldn't have been a TV directly beneath me (they placed it there
for them self having the best look at it *LoL*) I wouldn't even have seen
todays game :-)
DvRC I have to wonder if you're still getting any Arbeit done!
('Arbeit' = 'work', , for the non-German-speakers too)
In fact I do ... at least I do my very best and succeed most the time :-)
--
Best Regards
Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2)
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Re: New HTML engine?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @11 June 2002, 18:48:34 +0200 (17:48 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... So, if an HTML attachment is delivered with local images and all, I think TB should show them. Animated GIFs, too! :-) erm... which it already does. I received such a mail only 30 minutes ago. It was rendered perfectly. Remote images and other embedded objects should be optional - Should / shmould. I already said what the projection was on support for that. It will be in V2. It will *not* be a global option. It will prompt, one image at a time like: Retrieve remote image file 'gotaliveone.spamharvest.sillypicture.jpg' now? for every picture. when they're turned off, perhaps TB could display some frivolous local pictures in their place. ... which it already does. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9Bi6pOeQkq5KdzaARAokDAKDQVB3MvzuxEhkwwMJGySpXFzgXbQCgkBGu 62Di008Q7SsYfSXvzHJ3eRY= =0C8L -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New HTML engine?
Hello Jonathan, 11. junij 2002, 16:05:21, you wrote: JA last thing you want is for JA TB! to wander off, download and execute an image from an infected site Displaying images is very different from running programs. If The Bat would download a program instead of image file, there would have to be a special instruction to run it, as normally The Bat would open the file and try to read the header... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60d on Windows 2000 5.0.2195.Service Pack 2] Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on as though nothing has happened. -- Churchill's Commentary on Man Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 2?
Hello Paul, 11. junij 2002, 18:13:19, you wrote: PC that's OK, I'll continue to do it my way, but thanks for the kind PC words :) Create a quick template named eg. QuoteStyle, and put this in: 8-- %IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=(?im-s)^X-Mailer\:.*(Bat!|Becky|Gnus|slrn).*$%- %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%- %SUBPATT=1=:NONE:I 8-- Then put %Quotestyle='%Qinclude=Qstyle' to your reply macro. This way the initials quoting will be automatically used only with the clients which support it. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60d on Windows 2000 5.0.2195.Service Pack 2] If people listened to themselves more often, they'd talk less. -- Courtois's Rule Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: AVG or NOD32?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Clive Taylor [CT] wrote: CT No, thank God. God help you then with the false positive's that may occur. :-) CT I don't want infected messages anywhere near my database - let CT alone allowing TB to create a folder to house it. If it's in a separate folder, this means it's in it's own database file. If you think that's unsafe then so be it. :-) ACM Will it strip infected attachments and let you receive a message ACM with this attached as seen in the capture: CT No. If I'm sent an infected message I delete it. Period. Others may not want to do this. So what do you have to say to those who don't wish to delete the entire message and yet have it in their message base anyway? Is there as convenient a way of achieving this as with the plug-in using the POP3 scanner? If others wish to do things your way then fine and if that's what you prefer then state it as such. However, the plugin does offer interesting alternatives, so don't mislead by saying it doesn't add any functionality. :-( - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9Bi/SV8nrYCsHF+IRAr6tAJ9jecLT1RZ7Fx/uD5tsZFJdUzKENgCfa499 +wCRcaJNXndzNueS5H4JEwU= =k4Mn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: AVG or NOD32?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Joseph N. [JN] wrote: JN The screen caps show a different font in the header display and JN the folder tree than I can get. I can't find a place to set those, JN and changing other settings won't get them to show as anything but JN Arial. How did you modify the font of your folder tree and header JN display? Go to Options/Preferences/System tab - font section at the bottom. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9BjCyV8nrYCsHF+IRAn8YAKDgiXRTf8o26Pr6Q1YKTNTc7KPdfgCfVeFj E4e+AMf9B1zv3FOGAt+FekI= =20W/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: AVG or NOD32?
11 June 2002, 18:13, you wrote: ACM However, the plugin does offer ACM interesting alternatives, so don't mislead by saying it doesn't add any ACM functionality. :-( Well, we'll have to disagree over this plug-in's usefulness, Allie, but I just hope for your sake that part of its functionality isn't to screw up your message base. -- Clive Taylor Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: ot but please verify my sig?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hello daveiw, Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 1:49:13 PM, you wrote: dcn Would someone be so kind as to verify my sig is working correctly dcn please? Signature made 06/11/02 13:49:25 using DSA key ID 6D9675F3 Good signature from Dave Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner. Fingerprint: 869D 5DF3 48F9 6DCE BA72 F690 8BA8 C177 6D96 75F3 - -- Robert mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -=Robert Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~ PGP public key: 0x633F6D07 (link 1 - embedded, link 2 - attached) Fingerprint: 1A1C 29F1 2A0C 4C4E 0BDA C8EE 5A1D 9F03 633F 6D07 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP%20KeyBody=Please%20send%20key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=GPG%20KeyBody=Please%20send%20key ~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.30.24 Comment: Podpisano programem PGP dla podtwierdzenia tozsamosci. iQEVAwUBPQY0PSHFVOhVpB62AQPvtAgAimJuBlBAxmzC1zHTWq2YV87go1Oe+v7D /4BBWfa1CB3WRZYLJLswjXkiRsXkUSRHZZJQgf8bH65LO9nIIFL7igKfpueZ6ofI Ir1ogBzIphF7hk6fc3bDua/3fCNLRHnOKUmTI3VS3+bKYxtXju+/DGBbGRKN1QrJ NM6Cetg1zhcKwNZYPzwpc1Z3C+nV5fA7CYnkh2lRldy9QRkcsBw6Th/L4GmOPmsI 7jhT+bMp+1eM/Hx5IGqLniHdpqzSDJfg9khgDRnfDVZnUtQsJTvvStc0ISGjnD7R 9IkAsqyBdBg+DdKaMAtGcfAB3kRqsmgiwFYovOGqw1T+AWfZXMETCQ== =aZit -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 2?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 1:08 PM, you wrote: JS Create a quick template named eg. QuoteStyle, and put this in: JS 8-- JS %IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=(?im-s)^X-Mailer\:.*(Bat!|Becky|Gnus|slrn).*$%- JS %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%- JS %SUBPATT=1=:NONE:I JS 8-- JS Then put %Quotestyle='%Qinclude=Qstyle' to your reply macro. This JS way the initials quoting will be automatically used only with the JS clients which support it. well, I did that and this is a reply. I also tried to reply to a number of other emails from people I know aren't using TB ( or Becky, or gnu..) as in AOL and Outlookers. It still put the JS style for each line. Do I need to restart TB for it to work ? is there a special place in the reply for that line ? Needless to say that was my first attempt at a quick template ! thanks, / Paul Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPQY5Kj3ZlJQqDEkFEQKLdQCg6N8sr9kBQnQSfw9ewi9Y6AY2bZQAn1Vs ffBqZlfnAaiWyifLPZGs/gIT =hlpi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: AVG or NOD32?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Clive Taylor [CT] wrote: CT Well, we'll have to disagree over this plug-in's usefulness, No problem there at all. Just felt the need to make that distinction, i.e., no useful functionality, a subjective opinion as opposed to no functionality, an objective claim. CT Allie, but I just hope for your sake that part of its CT functionality isn't to screw up your message base. Yeah. This is an interesting point that hasn't borne out to be a problem yet. AFAIK, the incoming mail scanner scans each message as the POP3 scanner does. It doesn't do anything directly with the message base directly. I see another option to scan messages within a folder ... now that one poses some concern since you are interfering with established message bases. I've been using the plug-in for some time now and have since turned off the system scanner. I manually check other downloads. I'm not a great fan of POP scanners (the system scanner provides adequate protection IMO) and I'm only using the plugin to assist with testing. If they do manage to get it working more smoothly, I may just make using it permanent. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9BjmMV8nrYCsHF+IRAut9AKDmy0HUYDDnF0vMZIG7tA7vL3dxDQCgokhS U2zkmqyeRBmp2w4NC4D+Zhw= =A77y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
