[users] location of style info in content.xml

2006-02-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All,

I've got an application that inserts tables into an existing
odt file (oo 2.0) via the content.xml file.

The spec document (OpenDocument-v1.0-os.sxw) in section
8.2.1 on page 188 shows a code scheme that has a table
style declaration and then the table code.

I'd like to be able to define styles outside of styles.xml
or office:automatic-styles. It would be great if I could
define the style right before the table definition (as in
the example). However, I can't get it to work.

Am I reading the spec to literally? Can styles be defined
right before the table?

Below is the content.xml file that I've been unsuccessfully
testing with. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Max

-- snip here --
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?

office:document-content
xmlns:office=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:office:1.0
xmlns:style=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:style:1.0
xmlns:text=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:text:1.0
xmlns:table=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:table:1.0
xmlns:draw=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:drawing:1.0
xmlns:fo=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:xsl-fo-compatible:1.0
xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;;
xmlns:dc=http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/;;
xmlns:meta=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:meta:1.0
xmlns:number=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:datastyle:1.0
xmlns:svg=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:svg-compatible:1.0
xmlns:chart=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:chart:1.0
xmlns:dr3d=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:dr3d:1.0
xmlns:math=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;;
xmlns:form=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:form:1.0
xmlns:script=urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:script:1.0
xmlns:ooo=http://openoffice.org/2004/office;;
xmlns:ooow=http://openoffice.org/2004/writer;;
xmlns:oooc=http://openoffice.org/2004/calc;;
xmlns:dom=http://www.w3.org/2001/xml-events;;
xmlns:xforms=http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms;;
xmlns:xsd=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;;
xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;;
office:version=1.0
 office:scripts/
 office:font-face-decls
  style:font-face style:name=Tahoma1
svg:font-family=Tahoma/
  style:font-face style:name=Arial Unicode MS
svg:font-family=apos;Arial Unicode MSapos;
style:font-pitch=variable/
  style:font-face style:name=Tahoma
svg:font-family=Tahoma style:font-pitch=variable/
  style:font-face style:name=Times New Roman
svg:font-family=apos;Times New Romanapos;
style:font-family-generic=roman
style:font-pitch=variable/
 /office:font-face-decls
 office:automatic-styles
  style:style style:name=BasicTable2
style:family=table
   style:table-properties style:width=6.925in
table:align=margins/
  /style:style
  style:style style:name=BasicTable2.A
style:family=table-column
   style:table-column-properties
style:column-width=3.4625in
style:rel-column-width=32767*/
  /style:style
  style:style style:name=BasicTable2.B
style:family=table-column
   style:table-column-properties
style:column-width=3.4625in
style:rel-column-width=32768*/
  /style:style
  style:style style:name=T1 style:family=text
   style:text-properties fo:color=#ff/
  /style:style
 /office:automatic-styles
 office:body
  office:text
   text:sequence-decls
text:sequence-decl text:display-outline-level=0
text:name=Illustration/
text:sequence-decl text:display-outline-level=0
text:name=Table/
text:sequence-decl text:display-outline-level=0
text:name=Text/
text:sequence-decl text:display-outline-level=0
text:name=Drawing/
   /text:sequence-decls
   text:p text:style-name=Standard/
  style:style style:name=BasicTable style:family=table
   style:table-properties style:width=4in
table:align=margins/
  /style:style
  style:style style:name=BasicTable.A
style:family=table-column
   style:table-column-properties style:column-width=2in
/
  /style:style
  style:style style:name=BasicTable.B
style:family=table-column
   style:table-column-properties style:column-width=2in
/
  /style:style
  style:style style:name=T1 style:family=text
   style:text-properties fo:color=#ff/
  /style:style   
   table:table table:name=BasicTable
   table:style-name=Table1
table:table-column table:style-name=BasicTable.A/
table:table-column table:style-name=BasicTable.B/
table:table-row
 table:table-cell office:value-type=string
  text:p text:style-name=Standard0.2 /text:p
 /table:table-cell
 table:table-cell office:value-type=string
  text:p text:style-name=Standardsetosa /text:p
 /table:table-cell
/table:table-row
table:table-row
 table:table-cell office:value-type=string
  text:p text:style-name=Standard0.2 /text:p
 /table:table-cell
 table:table-cell office:value-type=string
  text:p text:style-name=Standardsetosa /text:p
 /table:table-cell
/table:table-row
table:table-row
 table:table-cell office:value-type=string
  text:p text:style-name=Standard0.2 /text:p
 /table:table-cell
 table:table-cell office:value-type=string
  

[users] Unsubscribe problem

2006-02-21 Thread pop.wanadoo.fr
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Re: [users] Cursor not saved to last position

2006-02-21 Thread Thomas Lange



Hi all,


Sorry, I should have mentioned I'm using 2.0.1, and yes, I have all my user
information filled in. It's very strange.

...


Up to yesterday, whenever I called up a file it came up with the
cursor at the last position it had been at. Since this morning, the
cursor is at the very top of each document, whether old or new, when I
call up the document.



Which version are you using? 2.0 or 1.1.5? 


Have you entered your user-informations in the OOo-dialogue? Your name
is necessary in OOo 2.0.x. Additionally, you'll have to select Recovery
| Edit-view (or something similar - since I'm using only the German
version) under Tools - Options. 

Hope this helps you. 


I don't know with which version the behaviour changed.
OpenOffice used to always store the cursor position when the douments
view was closed and restored the view to that position when it was 
opened. I also liked this a lot because it was an easy way to have a

'bookmark' of the position where to continue with reading.

Unfortunately at some point it was decided that this is not what the
average user would want because reading should start from the first 
page. So now the the documents always gets opened with the view on the 
first page. That is unless you are the author! In that case the last 
position is used because it was assumed the author usually want's to 
continue writing the document.
That's why it should be essential if the your user info matches the one 
stored with the document.


Unfortunately there also was no option introduced to allow the user to 
customize this behaviour. The only thing done was to introduce a 
keyboard shortcut (I think it was sth like Shift-F5) to return the 
cursor to the last editing position which should be pretty much what you 
and I wanted to have by default.


I personally still would prefer the old solution though. :-/


Regards,
Thomas

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Re: [users] Update OpenOffice.org from 2.0 to 2.0.2 RC1

2006-02-21 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook

Joe Conner wrote:
[cut]

After further investigation, part of what I reported earlier was 
inaccurate.  My appologies for getting this wrong earlier.


I had selected CUSTOM and modified the suggested install directory to 
previous tree minus previous OOo2.0.1 install directory\OOo202.  It 
did install there after all but it totally uninstalled my production 
OOo  prior to installing the release candidate.

Still nasty, but not as bad as I had previously reported.

I am going to uninstall rc1, reinstall 2.0.1 using the default 
directory, and reinstall rcq.  I will report if the rc1 still uninstalls 
2.0.1 before installing itself. 


Don't bother; it does! I'll try rc2 later today.


By the way I am running WinXP Pro with 512MB ram and AMD XP1900 cpu.
Joe


Similar - WinXP Pro + SP2

Peter HB

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Re: [users] Calc formula question.?

2006-02-21 Thread Fred Grant
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 15:01, Joe Conner wrote:
 If this is for recording blood glucose readings, I have a spreadsheet
 that is designed to do this.  If you want me to send it to you
 directly let me know.
 Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA 98370 USA
 
 James Elliott wrote: 
  I have a Calc spreadsheet (OOo 2.0;  Win XP) which has a column of
  dates and a column of data readings.  Sometimes there are three
  readings on the same day.  This is what it looks like: 
  
  17/02/06   7.9  (@ 1300 hrs) 
  17/02/06   5.4  (@ 1500 hrs) 
  17/02/06   9.9  (@ 1700 hrs) 
  18/02/06   6.7  (@ 1300 hrs) 
  18/02/06   8.0  (@ 1500 hrs) 
  18/02/06   7.1  (@ 1700 hrs) 
  19/02/06   4.4  (@ 1300 hrs) 
  19/02/06   6.7  (@ 1450 hrs) 
  19/02/06   5.2  (@ 1800 hrs) 
  
  I want to: 
  1.  average these results 
  2.  report the number of data points (readings) 
  3.  report the number of days over which readings were taken. 
  
  I can get the average by using the AVERAGE function. 
  I can get the number of readings by using the COUNT function. 
  
  ... but, how do I get the number of days? 
  
  If I use the CountA function it returns 9 days when readings were
  recorded clearly over only 3 days. 
  
  What I need is something like a COUNT-DISTINCT function. 
  
  Can anyone help with a solution to this question. 
  
  Many thanks,  James Elliott 
  
  - 
Perhaps you could set up a column and enter A2-A1 (assuming the dates are in
col A.  Copy that down and you should have zeros where the date stayed the 
same and ones where the date changed.  This column could then be summed.  I
didn't try this but it might be a start.









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Re: [users] Paste Calc columns as table in Writer

2006-02-21 Thread Anthony Chilco

Hi Samuel,
Use 'edit / paste special' and select 'html' as the type of data. It 
will create a table that you can then customize.

tc

Samuel Murray wrote:


G'day everyone

Is it possible to copy multiple columns in Calc and paste them as a 
table in Writer?  I've tried doing it but Writer just pastes the Calc 
columns as an embedded object of sorts.


Thanks
Samuel




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Re: [users] Update OpenOffice.org from 2.0 to 2.0.2 RC1

2006-02-21 Thread Joe Conner






G. Roderick Singleton wrote:

  On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 13:40 -0800, Joe Conner wrote:
  
  
When I installed 2.0.2rc1 it uninstalled my 2.0.1 as a part of the
installation process.
I had used "CUSTOM" install because I wanted to install along side
2.0.1, which is my production software.
BAD IDEA,It still uninstalled 2.0.1 and doggedly installed itself
in the default directory no matter 
what I told it to do.

You will not get as many people to test a release candidate unless the
install behaves itself.
Joe


  
  
Please confirm that you selected the Change button and changed the
target. I installed 2.02.rc2 beside 2.0.2rc1 using the Custom install
under XP Pro. If you are talking about the menus, then yes these do
appear to be updated to the new version but this is easily fixed
manually.


  

After further investigation, part of what I reported earlier was
inaccurate. My appologies for getting this wrong earlier.

I had selected "CUSTOM" and modified the suggested install directory to
previous tree minus previous OOo2.0.1 install
directory\OOo202. It did install there after all but it totally
uninstalled my production OOo prior to installing the release
candidate.
Still nasty, but not as bad as I had previously reported.

I am going to uninstall rc1, reinstall 2.0.1 using the default
directory, and reinstall rcq. I will report if the rc1 still
uninstalls 2.0.1 before installing itself. 

By the way I am running WinXP Pro with 512MB ram and AMD XP1900 cpu.
Joe


  
  SNIP



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[users] CVS access to OOo sources?

2006-02-21 Thread Toralf Lund
I've often wondered if and how I can access the OOo code via CVS. The 
CVS info under http://development.openoffice.org/ is not very helpful; 
it talks a lot about Cygwin installation and advanced features like CVS 
tunnelling, but fails to provide basic info on the CVS repository setup.


Help, anyone?

- Toralf

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Re: [users] [moderated]

2006-02-21 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 17:57 -0500, Sheryl  Andrew Wales wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have a question about OpenOffice.  I understand that it is compatible with 
 Microsoft Office. I presently do not have MS Office, and require an office 
 system for my home based business.  Friends and collegues have sent me files 
 that they have created in MS Office that I can open and read but not actually 
 correct/change.  Likewise, they are not able to open any of my files since it 
 is not MS Office.  If I install this OpenOffice program, will I be able to 
 create/open/change any files that they have sent me and likewise will they be 
 able with their MS Office installed on their computers be able to 
 open/correct/change any documents that I have sent to them created with 
 OpenOffice?  Sorry to bother you with these questions, but it has been a real 
 hassle not being able to always communicate with others without MS Office.  
 The price of MS Office is also a bit of a hinder to it's purchase, $299.00.
 Thank you in advance for your time.  If you could also cc this message to my 
 other email address at [EMAIL PROTECTED] com I would really appreciate it, 
 since this email address does not always seem to work.
 
 Sincerely,
 Sheryl Wales

Sheryl,

OOo is quite compatible. Not 100% but very close. Thus, for the most
part, you will be able to edit and save the files that are sent to you.

At $299, MSO is pricey but OOo is $0. This is free and open source to
boot. I would recommend you give it a try just for that reason alone.
To get it simply click on the Download section on
http://www.openoffice.org/ and answer three questions and you will get
an archive from which you may install. If you use windows, the download
image is self extracting and start the install procedure automatically.
Can't get much easier.


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Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

2006-02-21 Thread Andrew Fisk

Other may differ, but I would install NeoOfiice from www.neooffice.org.

Have fun


Andy
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Suite 202
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Phone (412) 749-0162
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On Feb 20, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Bart Dragtsma wrote:


I am using Mac OS X, 10.4.4 and my question is:
Which choice of Open Office to download is the best for me?
Bart Dragtsma
Netherlands

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Re: [users] How do I read Adobe

2006-02-21 Thread Andrew Fisk
Don't think that is an OpenOffice.org issue -- I use type 1 fonts all  
the time and don't have an issue have you tried creating a PDF with  
acrobat?

Thanks

Andy
Spitfire Computer Services
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Suite 202
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Phone (412) 749-0162
Fax: (412) 749-0203
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On Feb 20, 2006, at 10:39 PM, John W. Kennedy wrote:


Cor Nouws wrote:

Hello Dana,
Blake  Dana Allen wrote:
I am running open office.  I can't seem to read anything written  
in adobe or acrobat

How can I fix this?

With OpenOffice.org you can export your files to .pdf.
That is indeed very handy, since free pdf-readers are available,  
so everyone can read your files (if you wo want).
However writing a pdf is not the same thing as reading (other)  
acrobat/adobe files.


I believe PDF's created with OpenOffice.org go ca-ca when Type 1  
fonts are used. I just had to switch a document to a lookalike  
TrueType font, myself.


--
John W. Kennedy
But now is a new thing which is very old--
that the rich make themselves richer and not poorer,
which is the true Gospel, for the poor's sake.
  -- Charles Williams.  Judgement at Chelmsford

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[users] Re: openoffice 2.0 trying to access the internet. why?

2006-02-21 Thread Derek
I'm  afraid that I can't answer your question.  It only happened the first
time I ran Open Office and I blocked the connection.  I have searched my 
logs
and can't find any reference to that occasion.  ZoneAlarm has not reported
any further attempt by Open Office to access the internet since I blocked
it.
Derek

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 I do not know what exactly OOo does that alerts your Firewalls (I have
 only the Mac-Version and cannot test other OSes).
 But it could be possible that OOo just opens a local loopback
 connection (to / from localhost) for some functionality (e.g. Base).
 Such a connection would not be able to send or receive any data from
 outside your computer, but it is considered as a network connection by
 your firewalls anyway.

 To verify what kind of connection your OOo really sets up, please send
 the exact message of your firewall. Please try to find out, to which
 IP address does the connection go, which ports are opened. If your
 message does not provide this information, try to read your firewall's
 logfiles, look for a button indicating 'Details' or something similar.

 Regards
 Andreas

 c.bell schrieb:
 why is open office 2.0 trying to access the internet everytime i
 open the program from the program list in windows xp. I am using
 zone alarm. it gives me a warning of suspicious activity with
 openoffice 2.0 trying t get on the internet. is this normal
 activity. if so why ?

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Re: [users] Update OpenOffice.org from 2.0 to 2.0.2 RC1

2006-02-21 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 08:53 +, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
 Joe Conner wrote:
 [cut]
 
  After further investigation, part of what I reported earlier was 
  inaccurate.  My appologies for getting this wrong earlier.
  
  I had selected CUSTOM and modified the suggested install directory to 
  previous tree minus previous OOo2.0.1 install directory\OOo202.  It 
  did install there after all but it totally uninstalled my production 
  OOo  prior to installing the release candidate.
  Still nasty, but not as bad as I had previously reported.
  
  I am going to uninstall rc1, reinstall 2.0.1 using the default 
  directory, and reinstall rcq.  I will report if the rc1 still uninstalls 
  2.0.1 before installing itself. 
 
 Don't bother; it does! I'll try rc2 later today.
 
  By the way I am running WinXP Pro with 512MB ram and AMD XP1900 cpu.
  Joe
 
 Similar - WinXP Pro + SP2
 

The issue has been changed to RFE because this can be fixed by modifying
bootstrap.ini. See
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62360
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Re: [users] Re: Applying function returns to cell addresses

2006-02-21 Thread Ross Johnson
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 13:57 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
 On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 20:44 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
  On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:02:13 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
  
   On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 18:52 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
   On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:27:22 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
   
   On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:31:28 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
   
   On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 15:29 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
   On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 10:59:58 -0600, Rod Engelsman wrote:
   
   Paul_B wrote:
   
  Is there any way to set up a multiple case logic test?
  
  Currently I have =IF(B27=;;B27-(14.325+(E$25-70.35)*0.28)) as
  a formula in a column of cells. It tests another column's cell,
  if it's empty the result is null, otherwise a tax approximation
  kicks in.
  
  However, I'd like to allow for a few tax brackets. To do so I'd
  need to account for the null possibility plus three other
  possible number ranges (as income increases, a different tax
  formula should be invoked).
  
  Currently I don't see how this is possible.
  
  Thanks,
  paul

  
   You can use nested IF() statements.
   
   =IF(B27=;;IF(B27=...
   
   Ahh. Ok, thanks. Hadn't thought of that. A case select command
   would be nice, but this should do what I need.
   
   Have you tried using lookup tables for this kind of thing.
   Functions: LOOKUP, VLOOKUP etc in Help.
   
   I use them for this purpose in my own tax sheets and they work.
   
   That indeed looks like it would do it, as it amounts to a
   powerful case select statement. Should be interesting working out
   the details. Will get on this maybe tomorrow.
   
   Thanks much,
   Paul
   
   Ok, I'm trying to set this up.
   
   Is there any way to use a function's return as part of a cell
   address?
   
   For instance:
   
=MATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8)
   
   finds the row in which the H column matches cell E26. but
   
=G(MATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8))
   
   doesn't work. I want to find the row which contains the value
   searched for, and then use that number in the address of another
   value, here found under column G.
   
   Use something like =INDIRECT(GMATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8)+2)
   
   But LOOKUP does this for you. E.g.
   
   = LOOKUP($E$26;$H$3:$H$8;$G$3:$G$8)
  
  
  You definitely know your stuff, The INDIRECT formula is awesome,
  and you even caught the need for an offset of 2 in my MATCH
  formula.
  
  I was getting LOOKUP to return the row number, as does your
  formula above, but only because I set up column G to contain that
  data. But how then would I use the returned row number to specify
  which cells to poll for the tax data? That's where I'm stuck.
  
  Using the INDIRECT formula, I came up with 
  
  =IF(B26=;;B26-( INDIRECT(iMATCH($E$25;$H$3:$H$8)+2)
  +INDIRECT(jMATCH($E$25;$H$3:$H$8)+2)*($E$25-LOOKUP(E$25;$H$3:$H$8;$H$3:$H$8
  
  which successfully takes the income in B26 and then subtracts off
  the base tax and incremental tax bracket tax. But this is very
  unwieldy. If LOOKUP can do this directly, it would be a big
  improvement.
 
 Hey. Compliments always work :)
 
 I guess this has turned into a bit of a tutorial on lookup tables now.
 
 I assume your tax brackets are structured the same as mine, i.e a table
 like this (top left at cell H3):
 
 0 0   0   Tax free threshold
 1 1   0   0.15$0 plus $0.15 for each $ over $1
 2 3   15000.25
 4 5   65000.30
 6 8   95000.35
 9 2   0.45$2 plus $0.45 for each $ over $9
 
 $9 is the top threshold. If you don't have a tax-free threshold
 where you are then you can see how the table would change.
 
 The second column isn't actually needed in the formulae.
 
 Tax:
 =IF(B260;0;LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$J$3:$J$7) 
 +(B26-LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$J$3:$J$7))
 *LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$K$3:$K$7))
 
 Of course, the formula is a lot simpler if you store the base tax amount
 for your income in another cell.
 
 Base Tax:
 B27 =LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$J$3:$J$7)
 
 Tax:
 =IF(B260;0;B27+(B26-B27)*LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$K$3:$K$7))
 
 I give no warranty that these formulae won't get you a jail term :)

Oops. Change the ranges to $H$3:$H$8 etc. or you will get a jail term :/

I added the 9 row to make it more realistic but forgot to change the
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Re: [users] Re: Applying function returns to cell addresses

2006-02-21 Thread Ross Johnson
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 20:44 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
 On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:02:13 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 18:52 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
  On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:27:22 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
  
  On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:31:28 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
  
  On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 15:29 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
  On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 10:59:58 -0600, Rod Engelsman wrote:
  
  Paul_B wrote:
  
 Is there any way to set up a multiple case logic test?
 
 Currently I have =IF(B27=;;B27-(14.325+(E$25-70.35)*0.28)) as
 a formula in a column of cells. It tests another column's cell,
 if it's empty the result is null, otherwise a tax approximation
 kicks in.
 
 However, I'd like to allow for a few tax brackets. To do so I'd
 need to account for the null possibility plus three other
 possible number ranges (as income increases, a different tax
 formula should be invoked).
 
 Currently I don't see how this is possible.
 
 Thanks,
 paul
   
 
  You can use nested IF() statements.
  
  =IF(B27=;;IF(B27=...
  
  Ahh. Ok, thanks. Hadn't thought of that. A case select command
  would be nice, but this should do what I need.
  
  Have you tried using lookup tables for this kind of thing.
  Functions: LOOKUP, VLOOKUP etc in Help.
  
  I use them for this purpose in my own tax sheets and they work.
  
  That indeed looks like it would do it, as it amounts to a
  powerful case select statement. Should be interesting working out
  the details. Will get on this maybe tomorrow.
  
  Thanks much,
  Paul
  
  Ok, I'm trying to set this up.
  
  Is there any way to use a function's return as part of a cell
  address?
  
  For instance:
  
 =MATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8)
  
  finds the row in which the H column matches cell E26. but
  
 =G(MATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8))
  
  doesn't work. I want to find the row which contains the value
  searched for, and then use that number in the address of another
  value, here found under column G.
  
  Use something like =INDIRECT(GMATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8)+2)
  
  But LOOKUP does this for you. E.g.
  
  = LOOKUP($E$26;$H$3:$H$8;$G$3:$G$8)
 
 
 You definitely know your stuff, The INDIRECT formula is awesome,
 and you even caught the need for an offset of 2 in my MATCH
 formula.
 
 I was getting LOOKUP to return the row number, as does your
 formula above, but only because I set up column G to contain that
 data. But how then would I use the returned row number to specify
 which cells to poll for the tax data? That's where I'm stuck.
 
 Using the INDIRECT formula, I came up with 
 
 =IF(B26=;;B26-( INDIRECT(iMATCH($E$25;$H$3:$H$8)+2)
 +INDIRECT(jMATCH($E$25;$H$3:$H$8)+2)*($E$25-LOOKUP(E$25;$H$3:$H$8;$H$3:$H$8
 
 which successfully takes the income in B26 and then subtracts off
 the base tax and incremental tax bracket tax. But this is very
 unwieldy. If LOOKUP can do this directly, it would be a big
 improvement.

Hey. Compliments always work :)

I guess this has turned into a bit of a tutorial on lookup tables now.

I assume your tax brackets are structured the same as mine, i.e a table
like this (top left at cell H3):

0   0   0   Tax free threshold
1   1   0   0.15$0 plus $0.15 for each $ over $1
2   3   15000.25
4   5   65000.30
6   8   95000.35
9   2   0.45$2 plus $0.45 for each $ over $9

$9 is the top threshold. If you don't have a tax-free threshold
where you are then you can see how the table would change.

The second column isn't actually needed in the formulae.

Tax:
=IF(B260;0;LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$J$3:$J$7) 
+(B26-LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$J$3:$J$7))
*LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$K$3:$K$7))

Of course, the formula is a lot simpler if you store the base tax amount
for your income in another cell.

Base Tax:
B27 =LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$J$3:$J$7)

Tax:
=IF(B260;0;B27+(B26-B27)*LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$K$3:$K$7))

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Re: [users] Cursor not saved to last position

2006-02-21 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 09:48 +0100, Thomas Lange wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
  Sorry, I should have mentioned I'm using 2.0.1, and yes, I have all my user
  information filled in. It's very strange.

That is not all you have to do. You have to make other choices. Like
setting the Reply-To heading so it goes to the list rather than
a Post To: field. I and others would appreciate it if you would
configure your client appropriately. If you do not know how, ask your
system administrator.

As to your supposed problem, please try setting the following:
Tools  Options  OpenOffice.org  View with any settings you personally
need that are different from the default. For example, Restore  Editing
view. For detail, click Help on the dialogue box Help button and follow
the links.


 ...
 
 Up to yesterday, whenever I called up a file it came up with the
 cursor at the last position it had been at. Since this morning, the
 cursor is at the very top of each document, whether old or new, when I
 call up the document.
  
  
  Which version are you using? 2.0 or 1.1.5? 
  
  Have you entered your user-informations in the OOo-dialogue? Your name
  is necessary in OOo 2.0.x. Additionally, you'll have to select Recovery
  | Edit-view (or something similar - since I'm using only the German
  version) under Tools - Options. 
  
  Hope this helps you. 
 
 I don't know with which version the behaviour changed.
 OpenOffice used to always store the cursor position when the douments
 view was closed and restored the view to that position when it was 
 opened. I also liked this a lot because it was an easy way to have a
 'bookmark' of the position where to continue with reading.
 
 Unfortunately at some point it was decided that this is not what the
 average user would want because reading should start from the first 
 page. So now the the documents always gets opened with the view on the 
 first page. That is unless you are the author! In that case the last 
 position is used because it was assumed the author usually want's to 
 continue writing the document.
 That's why it should be essential if the your user info matches the one 
 stored with the document.
 
 Unfortunately there also was no option introduced to allow the user to 
 customize this behaviour. The only thing done was to introduce a 
 keyboard shortcut (I think it was sth like Shift-F5) to return the 
 cursor to the last editing position which should be pretty much what you 
 and I wanted to have by default.
 
 I personally still would prefer the old solution though. :-/
 
 
 Regards,
 Thomas
 
 
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Re: [users] OpenOfficeorg Base

2006-02-21 Thread Pete Holsberg

James Elliott wrote:

Andy Ericson

I read your post because I had some questions of my own about Base and was 
hoping to be educated.  As it was I was bitterly disappointed at your 
unrealistic, vindictive, and vitriolic attack on Open Office and Sun 
Microsystems.


Why do we bother to respond to such attacks?

If this person wanted help, don't you think he would have asked for it instead 
of attacking OO for its deficiencies?

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Re: [users] Cursor not saved to last position

2006-02-21 Thread Ross Johnson
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 08:48 -0500, G. Roderick Singleton wrote:
 On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 09:48 +0100, Thomas Lange wrote:
  
  Hi all,
  
   Sorry, I should have mentioned I'm using 2.0.1, and yes, I have all my 
   user
   information filled in. It's very strange.

 As to your supposed problem, please try setting the following:
 Tools  Options  OpenOffice.org  View with any settings you personally
 need that are different from the default. For example, Restore  Editing
 view. For detail, click Help on the dialogue box Help button and follow
 the links.

There's a curious sentence in Help for Restore  Editing view, which
says that Write documents always open on page 1. So whatever has changed
seems to have warranted a conscious statement in Help.

 
  ...
  
  Up to yesterday, whenever I called up a file it came up with the
  cursor at the last position it had been at. Since this morning, the
  cursor is at the very top of each document, whether old or new, when I
  call up the document.
   
   
   Which version are you using? 2.0 or 1.1.5? 
   
   Have you entered your user-informations in the OOo-dialogue? Your name
   is necessary in OOo 2.0.x. Additionally, you'll have to select Recovery
   | Edit-view (or something similar - since I'm using only the German
   version) under Tools - Options. 
   
   Hope this helps you. 
  
  I don't know with which version the behaviour changed.
  OpenOffice used to always store the cursor position when the douments
  view was closed and restored the view to that position when it was 
  opened. I also liked this a lot because it was an easy way to have a
  'bookmark' of the position where to continue with reading.
  
  Unfortunately at some point it was decided that this is not what the
  average user would want because reading should start from the first 
  page. So now the the documents always gets opened with the view on the 
  first page. That is unless you are the author! In that case the last 
  position is used because it was assumed the author usually want's to 
  continue writing the document.
  That's why it should be essential if the your user info matches the one 
  stored with the document.
  
  Unfortunately there also was no option introduced to allow the user to 
  customize this behaviour. The only thing done was to introduce a 
  keyboard shortcut (I think it was sth like Shift-F5) to return the 
  cursor to the last editing position which should be pretty much what you 
  and I wanted to have by default.
  
  I personally still would prefer the old solution though. :-/
  
  
  Regards,
  Thomas
  
  
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[users] Drawing objects from Python...

2006-02-21 Thread Durumdara

Hi !

I want to draw mail paths in OpenOffice Draw. I get this information 
from eml header received tags.
The problem, that I need to call OpenOffice in some way (COM, OLE ???), 
and need to draw rectagles and connectors.


How to I do it ?
Anybody can help me with some source code and links ?

Thanx for it:
dd



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Re: [users] Drawing objects from Python...

2006-02-21 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 15:38 +0100, Durumdara wrote:
 Hi !
 
 I want to draw mail paths in OpenOffice Draw. I get this information 
 from eml header received tags.
 The problem, that I need to call OpenOffice in some way (COM, OLE ???), 
 and need to draw rectagles and connectors.
 
 How to I do it ?
 Anybody can help me with some source code and links ?
 
 Thanx for it:
 dd

Check the Download tab for the sources with which you want to start and
once you have digested the details, I suggest you ask your programming
questions on dev@openoffice.org to start.
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Re: [users] disk space

2006-02-21 Thread Rich

depends on components you choose

in my case (linux, installed almost everything ;) ) - 287M

Joe Marks wrote:

How much disk space does 2.0 require on a computer?

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[users] use fonts from /usr/lib/openoffice/fonts ONLY

2006-02-21 Thread Sebastian Röder
Hi, I am new to the list.

My question is how I can handle a very strict font management since I am from 
the DTP front and only want to use _some high quality_ fonts in OpenOffice. 

The idea is to deny OpenOffice to use any font from the Linux standard dirs 
like /usr/share/fonts and only use the fonts I installed with spadmin 
inside /usr/lib/openoffice/fonts/(truetype?)/. But I couldn't find an option 
to only permit this one dir, neither in the Path section nor in the Fonts 
section of the Options dialog. I use OOo-2.0.1 on Gentoo Linux.

Thanks in advance for your help!
Sebastian

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Re: [users] disk space

2006-02-21 Thread Anthony Chilco
Hi Joe,
On Win2k, mine is 207meg.
tc

Rich wrote:
 depends on components you choose

 in my case (linux, installed almost everything ;) ) - 287M

 Joe Marks wrote:
 How much disk space does 2.0 require on a computer?
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Re: [users] I'm using MACOSX 10.3.9 OpenOffice 2.0 under X11 1.0 - XFree86 4.3.0

2006-02-21 Thread Joe Hogan
Ross,

Thanks for your explination.

But, I did exactly all that, and once I click on the DMG file, it does not
work.

Ideas?

I have downloaded the software 3-4 times on different occasions and tried
installing it.

Joseph


2006/2/21, Ross Bernheim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Andy,

 There is no need to move any files. Once you double click the dmg file
 and the disk icon appears on the desktop, double
 click to open it if a window doesn't open automatically. Once opened,
 just double click on the installer or package and it
 will install or work from there. The dmg is a disk image and when
 unpacked you have a usable image mounted on the
 desktop. You can move the contents to your hard disk or use as is.
 Using from the image is quick and easy and once
 closed, the original compressed dmg file is still on your disk if you
 need to use it again.

 Sorry if some of this is a bit basic, but there are many neophytes who
 read this list and may not be familiar with it.

 I use both OOo 2 and NeoOffic/J. Both have their charms and foibles.


 Ross Bernheim


[users] Re: Re: Applying function returns to cell addresses

2006-02-21 Thread Paul_B
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:57:40 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:

 On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 20:44 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
 On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:02:13 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
 
 On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 18:52 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
 On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:27:22 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
 
 On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:31:28 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
 
 On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 15:29 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
 On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 10:59:58 -0600, Rod Engelsman wrote:
 
 Paul_B wrote:
 
Is there any way to set up a multiple case logic test?

Currently I have =IF(B27=;;B27-(14.325+(E$25-70.35)*0.28)) as
a formula in a column of cells. It tests another column's cell,
if it's empty the result is null, otherwise a tax approximation
kicks in.

However, I'd like to allow for a few tax brackets. To do so I'd
need to account for the null possibility plus three other
possible number ranges (as income increases, a different tax
formula should be invoked).

Currently I don't see how this is possible.

Thanks,
paul
  

 You can use nested IF() statements.
 
 =IF(B27=;;IF(B27=...
 
 Ahh. Ok, thanks. Hadn't thought of that. A case select command
 would be nice, but this should do what I need.
 
 Have you tried using lookup tables for this kind of thing.
 Functions: LOOKUP, VLOOKUP etc in Help.
 
 I use them for this purpose in my own tax sheets and they work.
 
 That indeed looks like it would do it, as it amounts to a
 powerful case select statement. Should be interesting working out
 the details. Will get on this maybe tomorrow.
 
 Thanks much,
 Paul
 
 Ok, I'm trying to set this up.
 
 Is there any way to use a function's return as part of a cell
 address?
 
 For instance:
 
=MATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8)
 
 finds the row in which the H column matches cell E26. but
 
=G(MATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8))
 
 doesn't work. I want to find the row which contains the value
 searched for, and then use that number in the address of another
 value, here found under column G.
 
 Use something like =INDIRECT(GMATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8)+2)
 
 But LOOKUP does this for you. E.g.
 
 = LOOKUP($E$26;$H$3:$H$8;$G$3:$G$8)
 
 You definitely know your stuff, The INDIRECT formula is awesome,
 and you even caught the need for an offset of 2 in my MATCH
 formula.
 
 I was getting LOOKUP to return the row number, as does your
 formula above, but only because I set up column G to contain that
 data. But how then would I use the returned row number to specify
 which cells to poll for the tax data? That's where I'm stuck.
 
 Using the INDIRECT formula, I came up with 
 
 =IF(B26=;;B26-( INDIRECT(iMATCH($E$25;$H$3:$H$8)+2)
 +INDIRECT(jMATCH($E$25;$H$3:$H$8)+2)*($E$25-LOOKUP(E$25;$H$3:$H$8;$H$3:$H$8
 
 which successfully takes the income in B26 and then subtracts off
 the base tax and incremental tax bracket tax. But this is very
 unwieldy. If LOOKUP can do this directly, it would be a big
 improvement.
 
 Hey. Compliments always work :)
 
 I guess this has turned into a bit of a tutorial on lookup tables now.
 
 I assume your tax brackets are structured the same as mine, i.e a table
 like this (top left at cell H3):
 
 0 0   0   Tax free threshold
 1 1   0   0.15$0 plus $0.15 for each $ over $1
 2 3   15000.25
 4 5   65000.30
 6 8   95000.35
 9 2   0.45$2 plus $0.45 for each $ over $9
 
 $9 is the top threshold. If you don't have a tax-free threshold
 where you are then you can see how the table would change.
 
 The second column isn't actually needed in the formulae.
 
 Tax:
 =IF(B260;0;LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$J$3:$J$7) 
 +(B26-LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$J$3:$J$7))
 *LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$K$3:$K$7))
 
 Of course, the formula is a lot simpler if you store the base tax amount
 for your income in another cell.
 
 Base Tax:
 B27 =LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$J$3:$J$7)
 
 Tax:
 =IF(B260;0;B27+(B26-B27)*LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$K$3:$K$7))
 
 I give no warranty that these formulae won't get you a jail term :)



Wow, it's so simple once I see it. I was missing the obvious step
of looking up the tax bracket floor again and subtracting it from
the actual income, in preparation for multiplication by the
incremental rate.

Thanks very much for taking the time to lay this out. Hopefully
others have gained from it as much as I.

Gratefully,
Paul
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Re: [users] use fonts from /usr/lib/openoffice/fonts ONLY

2006-02-21 Thread Sebastian Röder
  Font management is found in the Tools  Options  OpenOffice.org
 Writer  Basic Fonts. I would suggest installing the high quality fonts you
 want first. Then go to the place I mentioned. Change the settings to the
 fonts you want to use.
  You can also manage your fonts by using styles. Each style has a Font
 tab where you can select the one you want to use with that style. In the
 documentation section of the OOo web site, there are manuals explaining how
 to use styles. In the German Section of this web site, there should be at
 least some of these manuals in German if you prefer.

Thanks Dan,
but this steps are not radical enough for me! I wont only my approved 
fonts to show up in the fonts drop down menu of the writer gui at all. I am 
working with templates ans styles very often - but none the less a good 
(small) collection of fonts in that drop down menu is very usefull, e.g. when 
creating new styles/documents.

Isn't there any possibility to disable the loading of the general fonts on 
my system? I can not quite believe this :-( 

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Re: [users] disk space

2006-02-21 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
30Gb for less than $70Cdn does not seem all that expensive.

On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 09:55 -0800, Joe Conner wrote:
 Notebook hard drives are generally small and costly in comparison.
 
 wbg wrote: 
  On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 08:13, Joe Marks wrote:

   How much disk space does 2.0 require on a computer?
   
  
  When you can buy a 300Gb drive for $69.95, why would
  it matter? g
  
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Re: [users] I'm using MACOSX 10.3.9 OpenOffice 2.0 under X11 1.0 - XFree86 4.3.0

2006-02-21 Thread JC Helary
But, I did exactly all that, and once I click on the DMG file, it  
does not

work.


But it did work in the past at least once right ?

Did you look for files that were left by the previous installation ?

JC

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Re: [users] disk space

2006-02-21 Thread Joe Conner




Notebook hard drives are generally small and
costly in comparison.

wbg wrote:

  On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 08:13, Joe Marks wrote:
  
  
How much disk space does 2.0 require on a computer?

  
  
When you can buy a 300Gb drive for $69.95, why would
it matter? g

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Re: [users] I'm using MACOSX 10.3.9 OpenOffice 2.0 under X11 1.0 - XFree86 4.3.0

2006-02-21 Thread Joe Hogan
Hello again,

It did workinthe past with OO v1.x

I have not had time to try removing the files that youmentioned.  I will
work on that this week.

Merci

Joseph  (de Montreal)

2006/2/21, JC Helary [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  But, I did exactly all that, and once I click on the DMG file, it
  does not
  work.

 But it did work in the past at least once right ?

 Did you look for files that were left by the previous installation ?

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Re: [users] I'm using MACOSX 10.3.9 OpenOffice 2.0 under X11 1.0 - XFree86 4.3.0

2006-02-21 Thread Ross Bernheim

Andy,

There is no need to move any files. Once you double click the dmg file  
and the disk icon appears on the desktop, double
click to open it if a window doesn't open automatically. Once opened,  
just double click on the installer or package and it
will install or work from there. The dmg is a disk image and when  
unpacked you have a usable image mounted on the
desktop. You can move the contents to your hard disk or use as is.  
Using from the image is quick and easy and once
closed, the original compressed dmg file is still on your disk if you  
need to use it again.


Sorry if some of this is a bit basic, but there are many neophytes who  
read this list and may not be familiar with it.


I use both OOo 2 and NeoOffic/J. Both have their charms and foibles.


Ross Bernheim

On Feb 20, 2006, at 19:25, Andrew Fisk wrote:


Ah ha!


Did you try  dragging it to you applications folder -- moving a file  
from a disk image to the desktop does not copy the package(s) -- if  
your memory goes back far enough to remember using some kind of  
removable RW media (floppy/zip/Jazz...etc) you will recall that if you  
moved a file to the desktop, ejected the media and inserted it in  
another mac, the file would disappear from the first machine's desktop  
and appear on the second one.


Some Applications seem to run fine from a disk image while other have  
issues.


I am sure you answered this question already, but you do have X11  
installed

Thanks

Andy
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On Feb 20, 2006, at 9:25 PM, Joe Hogan wrote:


Let me correct something I said before.

I must correct what I said about downloading and clicking on the file  
and it timing out.


I downloaded the file from the OO website
I clicked on the dmg file
It opened in a window and there was an install file.
I moved the file to the desktop
I clicked on the file
I then get the response:  command timed out
Then I click OK, and it quits.

Well, that is the whole sequence.

Ideas...

Joe

On Feb 20, 2006, at 8:35 AM, Derick Centeno wrote:


I have the same setup except I have DSL.

Is it possible that something is wrong with the file which was  
downloaded.


Did anyone run the md5 test after the file was downloaded but before  
the file was invoked to startup?

The md5 value for OO is posted on the OO website.

The way to run the md5 test from within OS X is to open Terminal and  
do:


$ md5 filename

Where filename is the OO file which was downloaded.  I recommend  
that the md5 test embedded within Apple's disk utility not be used  
as it is proprietary and not standard with the accepted md5  
algorithm.  In brief, if you use Apple's md5, you'll never see a  
match with any other md5 value which wasn't generated by Apple or  
Apple based routines.


If that is ok, then trying checking one's wires, cables and  
connections.  If one was using dial-up, there could be lot's of  
glitches there.  Also just because one may choose a higher bandwidth  
for file transfer doesn't mean downloads will be perfect.


On Feb 20, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Joe Hogan wrote:


Jean-Cristophe,

If you read the guys message, he gives you ALL the details.

Like i also said in my message, after downloading the file from the  
website, I click on the file to download it.


After waiting about 30-40 seconds, I get the message that the other  
guy wrote:


command timed out

Thats it.  We do not get anywhere near actually installing anything.

Joseph

On Feb 20, 2006, at 2:24 AM, JC Helary wrote:


Could you give more details ?

How do you launch OpenOffice ? What do you see ?

Jean-Christophe

On 2006/02/20, at 7:25, Esther Aizcorbe wrote:


Hello
When i launch openoffice. there's a message command timed out.
Can you tell me why and how to fixed the problem.
Thank you very much.

MDO

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Re: [users] I'm using MACOSX 10.3.9 OpenOffice 2.0 under X11 1.0 - XFree86 4.3.0

2006-02-21 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 13:06 -0500, Joe Hogan wrote:
 Ross,
 
 Thanks for your explination.
 
 But, I did exactly all that, and once I click on the DMG file, it does not
 work.
 
 Ideas?

Please confirm that you checked that the download was successful by
using md5sum against the list at
http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/md5sums.html

From the description you gave, I suspect a bad download.
 
 I have downloaded the software 3-4 times on different occasions and tried
 installing it.
 
 Joseph
 
 
 2006/2/21, Ross Bernheim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Andy,
 
  There is no need to move any files. Once you double click the dmg file
  and the disk icon appears on the desktop, double
  click to open it if a window doesn't open automatically. Once opened,
  just double click on the installer or package and it
  will install or work from there. The dmg is a disk image and when
  unpacked you have a usable image mounted on the
  desktop. You can move the contents to your hard disk or use as is.
  Using from the image is quick and easy and once
  closed, the original compressed dmg file is still on your disk if you
  need to use it again.
 
  Sorry if some of this is a bit basic, but there are many neophytes who
  read this list and may not be familiar with it.
 
  I use both OOo 2 and NeoOffic/J. Both have their charms and foibles.
 
 
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Re: [users] I'm using MACOSX 10.3.9 OpenOffice 2.0 under X11 1.0 - XFree86 4.3.0

2006-02-21 Thread Ross Bernheim


On Feb 21, 2006, at 10:06, Joe Hogan wrote:


Ross,

Thanks for your explination.

But, I did exactly all that, and once I click on the DMG file, it does 
not

work.

Ideas?

I have downloaded the software 3-4 times on different occasions and 
tried

installing it.

Joseph


Joseph,

There are two possible sources of the problem that I can think of.
First, the file from OOo is bad. Some credence is added to this thought 
since others are having the problem as well.
Second, a problem on your Mac. Perhaps the extracting program that 
turns the dmg into an image is at fault. Or there
is another program that has changed or corrupted something on your Mac 
that causes the problem.


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Re: [users] Help! Where are the backup files?

2006-02-21 Thread Paul
It gets it from the same place. When it crashes however there is
another file put there to indicate that the recovery process needs to
be started. I'm not 100% sure of the details.

/paul

On 2/22/06, John Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 22 Feb 2006, at 7:47, Paul wrote:

  What backup's do is copy the currently open file to a different
  location. For instance I'm working on file AB.odt in directory
  c:\mydirectory\ ... If I've got backup's turned on and working it will
  save a copy to c:\[OOo install dir]\..\backup in case the original
  gets corrupted. I _think_ (someone may have to confirm this) that the
  backup's disappear once you've closed the open file however.
 
  Not too sure there is another way of retrieving your file sorry...

 I've never had a corrupted file. But I've often inadvertently deleted a file 
 or
 overwritten it. Just about every program I've ever used that has an
 automatic backup feature does it by always renaming the previously saved
 file as the backup and then doing a new save. Thus you've always got the
 old version in a backup folder.

 The way OO.o does it (assuming you're rght) is very dangerous. There is
 no security whatsoever for accidents.

 Wait ... on occasion OO.o Writer has crashed on me. When I restart it it
 always pops up a retrieve window. Where does it get that file from?

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Re: [users] Problema problem

2006-02-21 Thread Sigrid Kronenberger
Hola Roberto, 

Roberto E. Sepulveda Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
schrieb:

 señores 
 
 open office

perdón, but my Spanish isn't so good, that I can write my answer to your
question in this really beautiful language. :)

 
 mi inconveniente es que no me permite revisar la ortografia en 
 español, ya tengo el paquete de lenguaje español y no me ha cargado la
 linguistica para la revision de la gramatica en español

I think, you have to download the different dictionaries. Please use
File | Wizards | More dictionaries (or something similar, I'm using only
a German version of OOo). Follow the instructions, given in that file
and after closing OOo (incl. quickstarter) you can use the Spanish
dictionaries. 
 
 thank you

You're welcome. :)


Sigrid

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Re: [users] Re: md5sum idea

2006-02-21 Thread Derick Centeno
I am writing to correct some misunderstanding regarding md5 and it's 
availability on OS X.  Too bad, it's going to get lost in amongst all 
the other emails.


Apple does have it's own very of md5 within it's Disk Utility 
application.  However, that version provides a very different type of 
processing in determining md5 values.
The more common md5sum test is available, and it is not necessary to 
refer outside of OS X for it -- nor is it necessary to install anything 
extraneous to what is already found within OS X itself.  The md5sum 
test which is very familiar to Windows and Linux users, is available 
within an application in OS X called Terminal.  Do:


$ md5 filename

where filename is the name of the file to be tested and the md5sum test 
will report in the same format one sees in Linux or other environments.


Try it out.

Best wishes 

On Feb 21, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Joe Hogan wrote:


Well,

Thanks for forwarding me the links.  I did a little reading, and this,
unfortunately from what I read, does not help me at all:(

The original problem was the inability to install OO on Mac OS X.

The md5sum is LInux and Windows only:(

Is there a version for Mac?

Any new ideas?

Joseph

2006/2/21, G. Roderick Singleton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


M. Hogan,

This question should have been sent to the list. I happened to find it
in my junk filter by accident.  The information you have asked for is 
on

http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.1/index.html near the bottom.
Specifically, http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.1/md5sums.html

I have copied the mailing list for you.


On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 13:26 -0500, Joe Hogan wrote:

Hello,

Could you explain how the md5sum thing is done?  I want to be able to
eliminate all possibilities.

I just find it odd that I can download anything and everything but 
OO.

NeoOffice downloads fine...

Thanks for letting be know how.  (what software, and how do I go 
abotu

it?)

Joseph

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[users] Making Address Labels

2006-02-21 Thread kboesen
I've been trying to create address lables from an existing Microsoft Excel 
file. From your help info I get to line #12 fairly easy. When I click on the 
Data to Fields icon the data from my Excel spreadsheet does not appear in the 
Avery 5160 label display. What am I doing wrong? Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Ken B.

[users] Autocorrect - Replace tab

2006-02-21 Thread PAGERRIE
I am using Version 2 of Open Office and am new to it.  
 
 I wish to add a couple of autocorrections in the replace tab and have  
completed the Replace and  With boxes, clicked New and O.K.  but when I 
type the Replace abbreviation in a document it does not  change.  I have 
tried 
making the entries in Autocorrect many times but it  will not work for me.  
Any other listed correction will change, so  that part of the program is 
working.
 
Strangely, when I open a Microsoft Word document in Open Office the  
autocorrect entries of Microsoft still operate.
 
Can you help me please?
 
With many thanks,
 
Peter Gerrie


[users] [moderated]

2006-02-21 Thread Robert Beene
I have a question on use of the spreadsheet program. 

I have a cell in one spreadsheet (file A) which is linked to a cell in 
another spreadsheet (file B).  At some point in time I want to break the 
link and freeze the value in the cell in file A at its current value.  
The only way I have been able to figure out to do this is by typing in 
the value I want.  Is there another way?


In Excel I could do this by selecting the cell in file A, copy it, 
select paste special, and select value.


Thanks for any help you can provide.

Robert Beene

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[users] Setting print area

2006-02-21 Thread Peterbull01
Dear Sirs,
 
How do you set the print area?
 
There is no help file for this either.
 
Thanks,
 
Peter Bull


Re: [users] Re: md5sum idea

2006-02-21 Thread Derick Centeno
Questions regarding OS X and using md5 with open office has appeared 
several times within the open office mail in various discussions.  The 
information here ought to be posted somewhere as a reference 
permanently.  I'm willing to rewrite it in English or Spanish as 
necessary.


I am writing to correct some misunderstanding regarding md5 and it's 
availability on OS X.  Too bad, it's going to get lost in amongst all 
the other emails.


Apple does have it's own very of md5 within it's Disk Utility 
application.  However, that version provides a very different type of 
processing in determining md5 values.
The more common md5sum test is available, and it is not necessary to 
refer outside of OS X for it -- nor is it necessary to install anything 
extraneous to what is already found within OS X itself.  The md5sum 
test which is very familiar to Windows and Linux users, is available 
within an application in OS X called Terminal.  Do:


$ md5 filename

where filename is the name of the file to be tested and the md5sum test 
will report in the same format one sees in Linux or other environments.


Try it out.

Best wishes 

On Feb 21, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Joe Hogan wrote:


Well,

Thanks for forwarding me the links.  I did a little reading, and this,
unfortunately from what I read, does not help me at all:(

The original problem was the inability to install OO on Mac OS X.

The md5sum is LInux and Windows only:(

Is there a version for Mac?

Any new ideas?

Joseph

2006/2/21, G. Roderick Singleton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


M. Hogan,

This question should have been sent to the list. I happened to find it
in my junk filter by accident.  The information you have asked for is 
on

http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.1/index.html near the bottom.
Specifically, http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.1/md5sums.html

I have copied the mailing list for you.


On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 13:26 -0500, Joe Hogan wrote:

Hello,

Could you explain how the md5sum thing is done?  I want to be able to
eliminate all possibilities.

I just find it odd that I can download anything and everything but 
OO.

NeoOffice downloads fine...

Thanks for letting be know how.  (what software, and how do I go 
abotu

it?)

Joseph

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[users] Re: use fonts from /usr/lib/openoffice/fonts ONLY

2006-02-21 Thread Jallan

Sebastian Röder wrote:

 Font management is found in the Tools  Options  OpenOffice.org
Writer  Basic Fonts. I would suggest installing the high quality fonts you
want first. Then go to the place I mentioned. Change the settings to the
fonts you want to use.
 You can also manage your fonts by using styles. Each style has a Font
tab where you can select the one you want to use with that style. In the
documentation section of the OOo web site, there are manuals explaining how
to use styles. In the German Section of this web site, there should be at
least some of these manuals in German if you prefer.


Thanks Dan,
but this steps are not radical enough for me! I wont only my approved 
fonts to show up in the fonts drop down menu of the writer gui at all. I am 
working with templates ans styles very often - but none the less a good 
(small) collection of fonts in that drop down menu is very usefull, e.g. when 
creating new styles/documents.


Isn't there any possibility to disable the loading of the general fonts on 
my system? I can not quite believe this :-( 


I've never encountered a word processor or publishing program that does 
this, so far as I know. Do you, yourself, know of any program that 
allows filtering of fonts, other than dedicated font managers?


Normally such a demand is satisfied by a font manager utility. Those  I 
have used have always worked globally on any particular machine, but I 
understand there are some now available that can be configured to show 
or hide particular sets of fonts in respect to particular applications.


Whether there are any such available for Linux I do not know.

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[users] Re: Setting print area

2006-02-21 Thread Jallan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear Sirs,
 
How do you set the print area?
 
There is no help file for this either.


Setting the print area is found under Format - Print Ranges

Jallan

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Re: [users] Problema problem

2006-02-21 Thread Derick Centeno

Estimado Señor Sepulveda:

Por favor refiérse a las pagínas dedicado a usar el éspañol:

http://es.openoffice.org/resources/product_desc.html

On Feb 21, 2006, at 10:53 AM, Roberto E. Sepulveda Franco wrote:


señores

open office

mi inconveniente es que no me permite revisar la ortografia en
español, ya tengo el paquete de lenguaje español y no me ha cargado la
linguistica para la revision de la gramatica en español

thank you



Ing. Roberto E. Sepulveda Franco
Jefe de Operaciones y Proyectos
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Re: [users] Re: md5sum idea

2006-02-21 Thread Paul
 A lot of folks are dropping md5sum support because of a possible spoof
 that has been shown to work.  SHA-1 hasn't been compromised in that
 manner (yet).

Agrred that seems to be the case. There are however some attacks on
SHA-1 (albiet reduced rounds) as well...  As someone mentioned on
sci.crypt there is no such things as a collision free hash ..

/paul

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Re: [users] I'm using MACOSX 10.3.9 OpenOffice 2.0 under X11 1.0 - XFree86 4.3.0

2006-02-21 Thread Joe Hogan
Hello,

There are two possible sources of the problem that I can think of.
 First, the file from OOo is bad. Some credence is added to this thought
 since others are having the problem as well.


Who do we contact on the OO team to verify the state of the downlaodable
file?

Second, a problem on your Mac. Perhaps the extracting program that

 turns the dmg into an image is at fault. Or there
 is another program that has changed or corrupted something on your Mac
 that causes the problem.


Well, when looking at a DMG (disk image) is a system thing.  I use it quite
often while downloading other files.  While it might be a problem, it does
not seem to cause problem in any of my other downloaded files.

Has anyone else had problems using DMG files other than OO?

Joseph


Re: [users] Help! Where are the backup files?

2006-02-21 Thread John Jordan
On 22 Feb 2006, at 7:47, Paul wrote:

 What backup's do is copy the currently open file to a different
 location. For instance I'm working on file AB.odt in directory
 c:\mydirectory\ ... If I've got backup's turned on and working it will
 save a copy to c:\[OOo install dir]\..\backup in case the original
 gets corrupted. I _think_ (someone may have to confirm this) that the
 backup's disappear once you've closed the open file however.
 
 Not too sure there is another way of retrieving your file sorry...

I've never had a corrupted file. But I've often inadvertently deleted a file or 
overwritten it. Just about every program I've ever used that has an 
automatic backup feature does it by always renaming the previously saved 
file as the backup and then doing a new save. Thus you've always got the 
old version in a backup folder. 

The way OO.o does it (assuming you're rght) is very dangerous. There is 
no security whatsoever for accidents.

Wait ... on occasion OO.o Writer has crashed on me. When I restart it it 
always pops up a retrieve window. Where does it get that file from?

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[users] Re: Help! Where are the backup files?

2006-02-21 Thread Jallan

John Jordan wrote:

OO.o 1.9-something, Ubuntu-64 Breezy.

K, I screwed up just now. I opened a homework file for Chapter 12 of the 
textbook we are using in one of my classes (Ex_Chapt_12.odt), intending 
to use it as a template to start doing the homework for Chapter 13. I 
deleted all but the first page information, intending to do a Save As under 
the name Ex_Chapt_13. But without thinking I hit Ctrl-s. Oops!


No problem, I thought. I know this thing is making automatic backups all 
the time, because sometimes it interrupts me while I am typing. I'll just go 
get the backup file. I assumed that every time I did a Save it deleted the 
old backup file, then renamed the previously saved copy as the new 
backup. So I carefully did a Save As of the open document to 
Ex_Chapt_13.odt, then opened the file manager to look for the backup file. 
Nothing. Nada. Not there. According to Options the backup files are 
supposed to be in /home/jjj/.openoffice.org2/backups. The folder is there, 
but it is empty.


I searched the entire disk from the root forward for Ex_Chapt_12*.*. No 
backup files. All I found was the newly saved version.


Evidently automatic backup doesn't automatically make backups. What 
does it actually do? As far as I can tell it does nothing at all. And can 
someone tell me if there is any way to retrieve the old version of this file? 
And what can I do to prevent this sort of thing from happening again? This 
setup is very dangerous.


There is no production OOo 1.9. The last official production release of 
version 1 is 1.1.5. The 1.9 series were beta releases for version 2, 
often with known bugs, supplied for testing only, with a warning about 
this on the OpenOffice.org site download page where they were available.


Automatic backup does work with OpenOffice.org 2.0.1 (and I believe 
worked in earlier production releases, but I recently purposely blew 
away all old OOo directories and so can't confirm this, other than 
noticing a large number of .BAK files existed where they were supposed 
to exist.)


Probably the only way you might recover your earlier version of the file 
is through dedicated disk recovery software. If you have not done much 
writing to disk following your mishap, your file *may* still be there. 
(But if you have no deleted file recovery software on your system, 
simply downloading it may wipe out your file.)


Jallan

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[users] Re: Autocorrect - Replace tab

2006-02-21 Thread Jallan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am using Version 2 of Open Office and am new to it.  
 
 I wish to add a couple of autocorrections in the replace tab and have  
completed the Replace and  With boxes, clicked New and O.K.  but when I 
type the Replace abbreviation in a document it does not  change.  I have tried 
making the entries in Autocorrect many times but it  will not work for me.  
Any other listed correction will change, so  that part of the program is working.
 
Strangely, when I open a Microsoft Word document in Open Office the  
autocorrect entries of Microsoft still operate.


Check through Format - Character - Font that the language setting for 
 the text which is not being autocorrected is identical to the language 
setting that appears at the top of the Tools - AutoCorrect dialog box.


If it is not the same, either make it the same, or obtain or create an 
AutoCorrect file for that particular language.


The best way to reset the language in text is to check the paragraph 
style of the text as it appears in the Applied Style box at left of the 
formatting toolbar (to the left of the current font name box), and then 
change the language appropriate in the paragraph style that appears by 
pressing F11, selecting the same paragraph style from the list, 
right-clicking it, selecting Modify, and changing the language under 
the Fonts tab.


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Re: [users] use fonts from /usr/lib/openoffice/fonts ONLY

2006-02-21 Thread Dan Lewis
On Tuesday 21 February 2006 10:55 am, Sebastian Röder wrote:
 Hi, I am new to the list.

 My question is how I can handle a very strict font management since I am
 from the DTP front and only want to use _some high quality_ fonts in
 OpenOffice.

 The idea is to deny OpenOffice to use any font from the Linux standard dirs
 like /usr/share/fonts and only use the fonts I installed with spadmin
 inside /usr/lib/openoffice/fonts/(truetype?)/. But I couldn't find an
 option to only permit this one dir, neither in the Path section nor in
 the Fonts section of the Options dialog. I use OOo-2.0.1 on Gentoo
 Linux.

 Thanks in advance for your help!
 Sebastian

 Font management is found in the Tools  Options  OpenOffice.org Writer  
Basic Fonts. I would suggest installing the high quality fonts you want 
first. Then go to the place I mentioned. Change the settings to the fonts you 
want to use.
 You can also manage your fonts by using styles. Each style has a Font tab 
where you can select the one you want to use with that style. In the 
documentation section of the OOo web site, there are manuals explaining how 
to use styles. In the German Section of this web site, there should be at 
least some of these manuals in German if you prefer.

Dan

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Re: [users] disk space

2006-02-21 Thread wbg
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 08:13, Joe Marks wrote:
 How much disk space does 2.0 require on a computer?

When you can buy a 300Gb drive for $69.95, why would
it matter? g

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[users] [moderated]

2006-02-21 Thread Larry Lockman
I am not able to make changes to my database.  It is as if it is in read only 
mode.  I think I may have something linked to it, but if that is the case, I 
don't know how to fix the problem.

Thanks for any help or sympathy!


Larry Lockman

[users] Viewing equation for regression lines in charts

2006-02-21 Thread Lindsay Beth Willett
I am using version 2.0 of OpenOffice.org.  My problem is that I cannot 
find how to display the equation for the linear regression on a chart. 
I am able to make the chart just fine, and I have no problem adding the 
regression line into the chart, I just can't see the values of the slope 
and y-intercept.  I would appreciate a quick response if at all 
possible.  Thank you very much for your time.

Sincerely,
Lindsay Willett

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[users] [moderated]

2006-02-21 Thread Christal
I have attempted to download your office program several times today. During 
download it seems to just stop. The icons apear on the desk top, but when I try 
to open or run them I get an error report saying that the file is damaged in it 
can not be opened.  I will try to download it again tonight, but could you get 
back to me and let me know what you think I should do.  How can I restart the 
download so I dont have to do it over again. 
  Thanks, 
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[users] Re: trouble opening wpd files

2006-02-21 Thread John King
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:06:01 -0500, G. Roderick Singleton wrote:

 On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 16:25 -0500, Steve Campbell wrote:
 I have version 2.0.1 of Open office and find it a very good program.
 However, I cannot open wpdd files. Is there something else I need to
 download?
 
 I hope you meant wpd files :-) I can say the 2.0.2rc2 opens wpd files very
 well under XP. Have not tried under Linux. So I suggest that you enter an
 issue into Issue Tracker as this is the best way to have requests such as
 this evaluated.

wpd files open fine under Linux with ooo2.0.2 rc2.  I can't comment on how
close to the original they look as I no longer have WordPerfect.


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Re: [users] Help! Where are the backup files?

2006-02-21 Thread Dan Lewis
On Tuesday 21 February 2006 01:09 pm, John Jordan wrote:
 On 22 Feb 2006, at 7:47, Paul wrote:
  What backup's do is copy the currently open file to a different
  location. For instance I'm working on file AB.odt in directory
  c:\mydirectory\ ... If I've got backup's turned on and working it will
  save a copy to c:\[OOo install dir]\..\backup in case the original
  gets corrupted. I _think_ (someone may have to confirm this) that the
  backup's disappear once you've closed the open file however.
 
  Not too sure there is another way of retrieving your file sorry...

 I've never had a corrupted file. But I've often inadvertently deleted a
 file or overwritten it. Just about every program I've ever used that has an
 automatic backup feature does it by always renaming the previously saved
 file as the backup and then doing a new save. Thus you've always got the
 old version in a backup folder.

 The way OO.o does it (assuming you're rght) is very dangerous. There is
 no security whatsoever for accidents.

 Wait ... on occasion OO.o Writer has crashed on me. When I restart it it
 always pops up a retrieve window. Where does it get that file from?

 Have you looked in your  /home/jjj/tmp folder (directory) ? There should 
be some folders in it with some odd names. sv111.tmp and sv1fc.tmp are the 
names of a couple of mine. You may be able to find something in them.
 Have you tried Control+Z with this file open? 

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Re: [users] I'm using MACOSX 10.3.9 OpenOffice 2.0 under X11 1.0 - XFree86 4.3.0

2006-02-21 Thread Ross Bernheim


On Feb 21, 2006, at 11:09, Joe Hogan wrote:


Hello,

There are two possible sources of the problem that I can think of.
First, the file from OOo is bad. Some credence is added to this 
thought

since others are having the problem as well.



Who do we contact on the OO team to verify the state of the 
downlaodable

file?

Second, a problem on your Mac. Perhaps the extracting program that


turns the dmg into an image is at fault. Or there
is another program that has changed or corrupted something on your Mac
that causes the problem.



Well, when looking at a DMG (disk image) is a system thing.  I use it 
quite
often while downloading other files.  While it might be a problem, it 
does

not seem to cause problem in any of my other downloaded files.

Has anyone else had problems using DMG files other than OO?

Joseph



Joseph,

It looks as though you have eliminated the second possible cause. That 
leaves

the first.

It could very well be a problem in the OOo file you downloaded, or the 
original

dmg file on the OOo server. Some have suggested using the MD5 signature
to check that the file downloaded correctly. (I am not conversant with 
doing so,
but someone else in the thread did post instructions on how to do so.) 
If it did
download correctly, then the problem may well be the file on the OOO 
server

and you should contact someone on the site to check it.

Ross Bernheim



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[users] Problems with Mail Merge

2006-02-21 Thread Toni Casueps

- I have Writer documents linked to MS Access databases. I can retrieve
data from Access tables and queries, but not if those queries use
functions. This functions are defined in the same mdb file where the
queries are, and they work ok if I open them from Access, but not when
called from OpenOffice.

- I want to display data in the Writer document from two linked tables
of the database. One of them (child) has a column which references the
primary key of the other one (parent). I know how to get data from a
single table or query but not from something like this.

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Re: [users] default empty file for write/calc...

2006-02-21 Thread Sebastian Reitenbach
Hi,

 
 Hi Sebastian
 As you are not subscribed you may not have seen that:
 On Sat February 18 2006 05:12, Terry North wrote:
 
  Save the document you want opened as a template with File  Templates 
  Save, then open the Organizer where you get a button labelled Commands. 
  You will find towards the end of the list of Commands Set as Default
  Template.  You will need to set separate templates for Writer and Calc.
 

Thank you very much. Next time I shall make my homework better.

kind regards
Sebastian

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Re: [users] Re: Help! Where are the backup files?

2006-02-21 Thread John Jordan
On 21 Feb 2006, at 14:27, Steven Cox wrote:

 On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:13:42 -0500, Jallan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I know this thing is making automatic backups all the time, because  
  sometimes it interrupts me while I am typing. I'll just go get the  
  backup file.
 
 In Version 2 (I can't speak for other versions) you go to Tools - Options -
 Load/Save - General and check the box for always create backups. If you
 scroll up from Open/Save to OpenOffice.org and pick Paths you can see where it
 sends the backups.

Ah. That solves the problem. I'm screwed for the one I lost, but that box is 
now checked. And I just did a save on another file and it now made a .bak 
version of it in the backup folder.

So the only remaining question is, why the hell didn't the install utility have 
that box checked by default? 

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Re: [users] [moderated]

2006-02-21 Thread Sigrid Kronenberger
Hi Larry, 

Larry Lockman [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

 I am not able to make changes to my database.  It is as if it is in
 read only mode.  I think I may have something linked to it, but if
 that is the case, I don't know how to fix the problem.

Have you defined a row as primary key? I don't have a lot of
experience with databases, but this is the reason in 95 % of the time,
when someone can't access to his database. 

 
 Thanks for any help or sympathy!

Hope, this helps. 


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Re: [users] Re: md5sum idea

2006-02-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 February 2006 14:06, Paul wrote:
Here is a link to some software which will calculate MD5's for Mac's :
http://homepage.mac.com/nojiri/soft/mysoftsus.html

It seems that Mac's natively prefer to use the _better_ (and no I
don't want to start a flame war over this) method of SHA-1 but that's
another story...

It also seems that the MD5's are only available for the non-Neo
release, found here:
http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/md5sums.html

I think this relates to how the projects are structured, but you'd
have to ask someone from the Neo team where the MD5's can be found.

/paul

A lot of folks are dropping md5sum support because of a possible spoof 
that has been shown to work.  SHA-1 hasn't been compromised in that 
manner (yet).

On 2/22/06, Joe Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well,

 Thanks for forwarding me the links.  I did a little reading, and
 this, unfortunately from what I read, does not help me at all:(

 The original problem was the inability to install OO on Mac OS X.

 The md5sum is LInux and Windows only:(

 Is there a version for Mac?

 Any new ideas?

 Joseph

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  M. Hogan,
 
  This question should have been sent to the list. I happened to
  find it in my junk filter by accident.  The information you have
  asked for is on http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.1/index.html
  near the bottom. Specifically,
  http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.1/md5sums.html
 
  I have copied the mailing list for you.
 
  On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 13:26 -0500, Joe Hogan wrote:
   Hello,
  
   Could you explain how the md5sum thing is done?  I want to be
   able to eliminate all possibilities.
  
   I just find it odd that I can download anything and everything
   but OO. NeoOffice downloads fine...
  
   Thanks for letting be know how.  (what software, and how do I go
   abotu it?)
  
   Joseph
 
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Re: [users] disk space

2006-02-21 Thread Rich

because that matters when you are creating images for corporate cloning ?
because some people would like to use older machines ?
because he wanted to compare to other office packages/applications ?
because he was simply curious ?

i believe that was normal question :)

wbg wrote:

On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 08:13, Joe Marks wrote:

How much disk space does 2.0 require on a computer?


When you can buy a 300Gb drive for $69.95, why would
it matter? g

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Re: [users] Re: Help! Where are the backup files?

2006-02-21 Thread Steven Cox

So the only remaining question is, why the hell didn't the install

utility have  that box checked by default?


That's a good question... I have a feeling that most folks don't want the  
backup file, although I've no idea why not. Perhaps it's just an oversight  
by the programmers, but there's probably a reason behing it.




On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:57:01 -0500, John Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 21 Feb 2006, at 14:27, Steven Cox wrote:


On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:13:42 -0500, Jallan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know this thing is making automatic backups all the time, because
 sometimes it interrupts me while I am typing. I'll just go get the
 backup file.

In Version 2 (I can't speak for other versions) you go to Tools -  
Options -
Load/Save - General and check the box for always create backups. If  
you
scroll up from Open/Save to OpenOffice.org and pick Paths you can see  
where it

sends the backups.


Ah. That solves the problem. I'm screwed for the one I lost, but that  
box is

now checked. And I just did a save on another file and it now made a .bak
version of it in the backup folder.

So the only remaining question is, why the hell didn't the install  
utility have

that box checked by default?

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[users] Re: md5sum idea

2006-02-21 Thread Joe Hogan
Well,

Thanks for forwarding me the links.  I did a little reading, and this,
unfortunately from what I read, does not help me at all:(

The original problem was the inability to install OO on Mac OS X.

The md5sum is LInux and Windows only:(

Is there a version for Mac?

Any new ideas?

Joseph

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 M. Hogan,

 This question should have been sent to the list. I happened to find it
 in my junk filter by accident.  The information you have asked for is on
 http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.1/index.html near the bottom.
 Specifically, http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.1/md5sums.html

 I have copied the mailing list for you.


 On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 13:26 -0500, Joe Hogan wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Could you explain how the md5sum thing is done?  I want to be able to
  eliminate all possibilities.
 
  I just find it odd that I can download anything and everything but OO.
  NeoOffice downloads fine...
 
  Thanks for letting be know how.  (what software, and how do I go abotu
  it?)
 
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Re: [users] Help! Where are the backup files?

2006-02-21 Thread John Jordan
On 21 Feb 2006, at 13:17, Dan Lewis wrote:

  Have you looked in your  /home/jjj/tmp folder (directory) ? There should
 be some folders in it with some odd names. sv111.tmp and sv1fc.tmp are the
 names of a couple of mine. You may be able to find something in them.
  Have you tried Control+Z with this file open? 

Thanks for the suggestion. There is a folder in /tmp that looks like what 
you described. But inside it are just half a dozen very small files, all with a 
time stamp that could not possibly have anything to do with the lost file.

And yeah, I did try a Ctrl-z, and also looked at the Edit  Undo menu, but 
a file save is apparently not undoable.

The file is lost. I do have a paper printout copy that I made yesterday, so 
it's not a total disaster. More importantly, Steven Cox knew what was 
wrong -- the checkbox for Always Make Backups was not checked. It is 
now, so this will not happen again. However, I know I never unchecked that 
box. That means that the installation utility leaves that box unchecked by 
default. That is very bad. I don't like the Windows way of holding the user's 
hand all the time, but something like this defnitely should be the default.

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Re: [users] disk space

2006-02-21 Thread Joe Marks
How much disk space on XP Home Edition in a normal installlaion?  Is there 
any options so less space is required?

Joe Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  How much disk space does 2.0 require on a 
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Re: [users] OS X install problems

2006-02-21 Thread Ross Bernheim


On Feb 19, 2006, at 18:56, Rod Engelsman wrote:

I think Chad has a very defensible position in this argument. Exactly 
WHY does the project continue to beat this X11 horse for the Mac port? 
That would be almost exactly like having a port of OOo for Windows 
that is the Linux version tweaked to run under Cygwin. Or a Linux 
version that is really a Windows program tweaked to run under Wine. It 
makes no sense to me. Especially since the only point of debate 
between the Neo and the OOo for Mac crowd seems to be the licensing. 
Who cares? The only reason that OOo is LGPL instead of GPL is so that 
Sun can use the code in StarOffice. If Sun has no ambitions to release 
a Mac port of StarOffice then I fail to see what's driving the 
conflict.


As it stands, neither side can keep up with the main development of 
OOo Win-Lin. I don't use a Mac, so I don't really have a dog in this 
fight but from my perspective it all looks pretty silly.




NeoOffice/J has two problems in keeping up. Few developers, as good as 
they are, and that they have to wait for a version of OOo to be 
released
or close to being finalized before they can really start doing much of 
the conversion. This usually puts them at least a version behind OOo.


OOo only has the porting to Mac and X11 to worry about and so are 
usually a bit ahead of NeoOffic/J in getting the current version of OOo 
out.


For people who only use the Mac, NeoOffic/J is a great choice as it is 
more Mac like and uses the Mac open and save dialogs and printing as 
well

as the Mac's font sytem.

For those who use different operating systems, OOo 2.x is much more 
similar to what they are used to on other platforms.  OOo 2.x also can 
use
the open document file format. OOo 2.x can read and write the odf 
format while NeoOffice/J in its latest version can read the odf but not 
write to it.


Both the OOo and NeoOffice/J teams have slightly different visions. The 
marvelous thing is that they can both follow their visions and we all

benefit from their generous efforts. Thank you gentlemen and ladies.

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Re: [users] Help! Where are the backup files?

2006-02-21 Thread Paul
So you opened up file A, made changes, then 'accidentally' did a save.

Now you want the version of A to be in your backup's prior to the
changes you made.  Unfortunately it won't be there.

When you hit 'save' it wrote your changes to the file named A (I
think in your case it was titled : Ex_Chapt_12.odt).

What backup's do is copy the currently open file to a different
location. For instance I'm working on file AB.odt in directory
c:\mydirectory\ ... If I've got backup's turned on and working it will
save a copy to c:\[OOo install dir]\..\backup in case the original
gets corrupted. I _think_ (someone may have to confirm this) that the
backup's disappear once you've closed the open file however.

Not too sure there is another way of retrieving your file sorry...

/paul


On 2/22/06, John Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OO.o 1.9-something, Ubuntu-64 Breezy.

 K, I screwed up just now. I opened a homework file for Chapter 12 of the
 textbook we are using in one of my classes (Ex_Chapt_12.odt), intending
 to use it as a template to start doing the homework for Chapter 13. I
 deleted all but the first page information, intending to do a Save As under
 the name Ex_Chapt_13. But without thinking I hit Ctrl-s. Oops!

 No problem, I thought. I know this thing is making automatic backups all
 the time, because sometimes it interrupts me while I am typing. I'll just go
 get the backup file. I assumed that every time I did a Save it deleted the
 old backup file, then renamed the previously saved copy as the new
 backup. So I carefully did a Save As of the open document to
 Ex_Chapt_13.odt, then opened the file manager to look for the backup file.
 Nothing. Nada. Not there. According to Options the backup files are
 supposed to be in /home/jjj/.openoffice.org2/backups. The folder is there,
 but it is empty.

 I searched the entire disk from the root forward for Ex_Chapt_12*.*. No
 backup files. All I found was the newly saved version.

 Evidently automatic backup doesn't automatically make backups. What
 does it actually do? As far as I can tell it does nothing at all. And can
 someone tell me if there is any way to retrieve the old version of this file?
 And what can I do to prevent this sort of thing from happening again? This
 setup is very dangerous.

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Re: [users] Cursor not saved to last position

2006-02-21 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 01:13 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
 On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 08:48 -0500, G. Roderick Singleton wrote:
  On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 09:48 +0100, Thomas Lange wrote:
   
   Hi all,
   
Sorry, I should have mentioned I'm using 2.0.1, and yes, I have all my 
user
information filled in. It's very strange.
 
  As to your supposed problem, please try setting the following:
  Tools  Options  OpenOffice.org  View with any settings you personally
  need that are different from the default. For example, Restore  Editing
  view. For detail, click Help on the dialogue box Help button and follow
  the links.
 
 There's a curious sentence in Help for Restore  Editing view, which
 says that Write documents always open on page 1. So whatever has changed
 seems to have warranted a conscious statement in Help.
 

Help is being updated constantly. If you think the wording is incorrect,
I suggest that you enter an Request for Enhancement (RFE) into Issue
Tracker as this is the best way to have requests such as this evaluated.

If you haven't already registered, do the following:

 1. To file an issue you must register with OOo by clicking the
My Pages tab and selecting the Register link
http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/Join
 2. Fill in your information
 3. Reply to the confirmation email that will be sent to the address
you provided. 
 4. Once you have confirmed, go to www.openoffice.org again
 5. And click on the My Pages tab from which you can file and find
issues. 

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. It is important that you file
any examples with the issue to ensure your need is understood.
  
   ...
   
   Up to yesterday, whenever I called up a file it came up with the
   cursor at the last position it had been at. Since this morning, the
   cursor is at the very top of each document, whether old or new, when I
   call up the document.


Which version are you using? 2.0 or 1.1.5? 

Have you entered your user-informations in the OOo-dialogue? Your name
is necessary in OOo 2.0.x. Additionally, you'll have to select Recovery
| Edit-view (or something similar - since I'm using only the German
version) under Tools - Options. 

Hope this helps you. 
   
   I don't know with which version the behaviour changed.
   OpenOffice used to always store the cursor position when the douments
   view was closed and restored the view to that position when it was 
   opened. I also liked this a lot because it was an easy way to have a
   'bookmark' of the position where to continue with reading.
   
   Unfortunately at some point it was decided that this is not what the
   average user would want because reading should start from the first 
   page. So now the the documents always gets opened with the view on the 
   first page. That is unless you are the author! In that case the last 
   position is used because it was assumed the author usually want's to 
   continue writing the document.
   That's why it should be essential if the your user info matches the one 
   stored with the document.
   
   Unfortunately there also was no option introduced to allow the user to 
   customize this behaviour. The only thing done was to introduce a 
   keyboard shortcut (I think it was sth like Shift-F5) to return the 
   cursor to the last editing position which should be pretty much what you 
   and I wanted to have by default.
   
   I personally still would prefer the old solution though. :-/
   
   
   Regards,
   Thomas
   
   
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[users] How to access MySQL DB from Open Office for a report

2006-02-21 Thread Bob
I'm a relative newbie to MySQL, but have been using OO for some time. 
Just upgraded to OO 2.x and installed MySQL 5.0.X (neither are beta 
versions).


I have several MySQL databases, and would like to use OO to generate 
reports from those existing databases, but am unable to connect to the 
DBs. Both are nothing fancy, just single tables. I've followed the 
spartan directions in OO Help, and the ODBC and JODBC connections 
indicate they're loaded.


I've searched the MySQL and OO web sites for specific assistance, but 
can't find anything that helps.


Can anyone here point me in the right direction?

Thanks.

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[users] I can't solve for myself...

2006-02-21 Thread Eugénio Varejão

Hello!

I am very grateful for the help you provide when I post my doubts in the 
list. My knowledge of OO improve a lot with your help. Whoever I am 
working in a spreadsheet and have a problem that I can't solve for myself.


My spreadsheet is to count the items stored in a warehouse: I have a 
type of spreadsheet to add items to the stock in the warehouse, and 
other type of spreadsheet to remove items from the warehouse. So in the 
new spreadsheet I have:


SHEET 1 - A list with all the possible items in the stock;
SHEET 2 - Must read the files with the items added to the warehouse;
SHEET 3 - Must read the files with the items removed from the warehouse;
SHEET 4 - Must calculate the stock of items in the warehouse;

SHEET 1:
 AB
1 Ref. P1  Description of P1
Z Ref. Pz   Description of Pz

SHEET 2:
  A   B C   
  DX
1 Ref. P1  Description of P1Quant. added  of P2 (File A1) 
 Total Ad of  P1
2 Ref. P2  Description of P2Quant. added  of P2 (File A1) Quant. 
added  of P1 (File A2)Total Ad of  P2
3 Ref. A3  Description of P3Quant. added  of P3 (File A1) Quant. 
added  of P3 (File A2)  Total Ad of  P3
N Ref. An   Description of PnQuant. added  of Pn (File A1) 
  Total Ad of Pn
Z Ref. Az   Description of PzQuant. added  of Pz (File A1) Quant. 
added  of Pz (File A2)   Total Ad of Pz


SHEET 3:
  AB C
   D  X
1 Ref. P1  Description of P1Quant. rmd  of P2 (File A1) 
 Total Rm of  P1
2 Ref. P2  Description of P2Quant. rmd  of P2 (File A1) Quant. rmd  
of P1 (File A2)Total Rm of  P2
3 Ref. A3  Description of P3Quant. remd  of P3 (File A1) Quant. rmd  
of P3 (File A2)  Total Rm of  P3
N Ref. An   Description of Pn
   Total Rm of Pn
Z Ref. Az   Description of PzQuant. rmd  of Pz (File A1) Quant. rmd  
of Pz (File A2) Total Rm of Pz


SHEET 4
  AB C
1 Ref. P1  Description of P1Total Ad of  P1 - Total Rm of  P1
2 Ref. P2  Description of P  Total Ad of  P2 - Total Rm of  P2
3 Ref. A3  Description of P3Total Ad of  P3 - Total Rm of  P3
N Ref. An   Description of Pn   Total Ad of  Pn - Total Rm of Pn
Z Ref. Az   Description of PzTotal Ad of  Pz - Total Rm of Pz

My problem is to write a formula that find a product, eg A3, in the file 
A1 and put the quantitie in in the correct line in SHEET 1. And the same 
for the files with the products removed.


I hope my explanation (and my English) are good enough to you understand 
this problem.


All the help will be very welcomed! Regards,

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Re: [users] Styles don't match

2006-02-21 Thread Joe



Jonathon Blake wrote:

Joe wrote:

  

What I would like is something like a More Information button, etc. that 
would detail for me exactly what's not the same so I can make an informed decision.



To do that, OOo would have to run a comparison of the styles as found
in the document, and the styles as found in the template, then write
out those differences.  Depending upon those differences, the end user
may, or may not understand their significance.

xan

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I'm sure some of it might get pretty cryptic, but there must be some way 
to figure out what it's doing.  I'm going to run a before and after file 
comparison next time it happens and see if that tells me anything.  
Then, maybe I'll have a clue about what's going on.


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[users] Restarting the numbering at 1

2006-02-21 Thread Pete Holsberg

I have several numbered lists in a document.

If I select the paragraphs that make up each list (one-at-a-time) and click on the 
adds or removes numbering icon, each list starts with 1, However, I don't 
know how to get the numbers right-justified or to control the spacing.

If I define a numbered style so I can get right-justification and spacing, I 
can't get each list to start at 1.

There's gotta be something simple I'm overlooking, right?

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[users] Impress continous sound Issue

2006-02-21 Thread Andy










I downloaded with dial up the latest version off OOo (twice on account that the first time when attempting install got an error message telling me install file corrupt. 2nd download of six hours worked. Guessyou get that some times)

I have installed OOo 2.02 in the hope that the continuous sound issue in Impress had been addressed. If it has, I am unable to find how. Can anyone help? For my needs this feature is absolutely imperative and renders the program useless to me without it. I wish to run a series of slides with lyrics tosongs with the appropriate backing sound tracks. Sadly the sound file cuts out on changing to the second slide. Although disappointed with this one aspect, I appreciate the efforts of the program creators and am enjoying 'Writer' with no complaints.

Thanks,

Andy

















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2006-02-21 Thread J L Merrill
I have been using Open Office 2.0 since shortly after it was introduced.
Before that, I used Open Office 1.5.  In the past, I had no problems using
the Insert  Envelope feature in Open Office Writer.  About a month ago, it
ceased to work for me.

Today, I uninstalled Open Office 2.0 (including the deletion of all remnants
not taken care of by the uninstall).  Then I installed Open Office  2.0.1.

The Insert  Envelope feature in Open Office Writer still will not work.  It
takes the setup, goes through the printing process, kicks out the envelope,
but no printing occurs.

Can you offer any suggestions?  I hate to revert to Microsoft Word when I
want to print an envelope.

Thanks!

J L Merrill
Frederick, OK, USA


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2006-02-21 Thread Javier Crespo
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that and is a year not managed to install the packages of dictionaries,
would please me to know if the possibility exists that offers support me to
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Re: [users] Making Address Labels

2006-02-21 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook

kboesen wrote:

I've been trying to create address lables from an existing Microsoft Excel file. From 
your help info I get to line #12 fairly easy. When I click on the Data to 
Fields icon the data from my Excel spreadsheet does not appear in the Avery 5160 label 
display. What am I doing wrong? Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Ken B.


How did you get the address fields into your label(s)? If you dragged 
and dropped them from your data source headers it should work fine: 
maybe you used another method and a typo occurred. The most common 
reason for data not to transfer to fields is when a mismatch between the 
data source and the fields occurs.


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Re: [users] [moderated]

2006-02-21 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 14:43 -0600, J L Merrill wrote:
 I have been using Open Office 2.0 since shortly after it was introduced.
 Before that, I used Open Office 1.5.  In the past, I had no problems using
 the Insert  Envelope feature in Open Office Writer.  About a month ago, it
 ceased to work for me.
 
 Today, I uninstalled Open Office 2.0 (including the deletion of all remnants
 not taken care of by the uninstall).  Then I installed Open Office  2.0.1.
 
 The Insert  Envelope feature in Open Office Writer still will not work.  It
 takes the setup, goes through the printing process, kicks out the envelope,
 but no printing occurs.
 
 Can you offer any suggestions?  I hate to revert to Microsoft Word when I
 want to print an envelope.
 

Have you tried using the Kit? See
http://documentation.openoffice.org/HOW_TO/
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Re: [users] Impress continous sound Issue

2006-02-21 Thread Steven Cox
To my knowledge it doesn't do it yet, and there's very little traffic in  
the issue tracker of the Graphics Project for it. I'd be in heaven if it  
did!




On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:04:10 -0500, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I downloaded with dial up the latest version off OOo (twice on account  
that

the first time when attempting install got an error message telling me
install file corrupt. 2nd download of six hours worked. Guess you get  
that

some times)


I have installed OOo 2.02 in the hope that the continuous sound issue in
Impress had been addressed. If it has, I am unable to find how.  Can  
anyone

help?  For my needs this feature is absolutely imperative and renders the
program useless to me without it .   I wish to run a series of slides  
with
lyrics to songs with the appropriate backing sound tracks.  Sadly the  
sound
file cuts out on changing to the second slide.   Although disappointed  
with

this one aspect, I appreciate the efforts of the program creators and am
enjoying 'Writer' with no complaints.


Thanks,


Andy




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Re: [users] Unsubscribe problem

2006-02-21 Thread CPHennessy
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Re: [users] Saving work in Impress

2006-02-21 Thread CPHennessy
On Mon February 20 2006 16:15, + Gene wrote:
 I am using Open Office Ver. 2.0

 It seems that when saving or resaving updated work in Impress, I get an
 error message trying to save, and have to File/Save/ resave a second time
 for it to take. The second time always works okay.


Hi Gene,
 So what is the error message ?

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Re: [users] Extra Features in Word Documents with OO 2.0.1

2006-02-21 Thread CPHennessy
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 Thankyou I will try both options. If this problem is present in the
 official version and the 2.0.2 version what processes do I need to go
 through to raise a change request to get the problem considered for
 rectification.

You report problems in issuezilla : http://openoffice.org - My Pages - 
Register, then when you receive a confirmation email, Login and File an 
issue 
In this way the relevant developers will see your bug report / suggestion and 
you will also see the progress of this feature / bug report if it is 
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[users] Re: Applying function returns to cell addresses

2006-02-21 Thread Paul_B
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:02:13 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:

 On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 18:52 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
 On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:27:22 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
 
 On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:31:28 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
 
 On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 15:29 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
 On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 10:59:58 -0600, Rod Engelsman wrote:
 
 Paul_B wrote:
 
Is there any way to set up a multiple case logic test?

Currently I have =IF(B27=;;B27-(14.325+(E$25-70.35)*0.28)) as
a formula in a column of cells. It tests another column's cell,
if it's empty the result is null, otherwise a tax approximation
kicks in.

However, I'd like to allow for a few tax brackets. To do so I'd
need to account for the null possibility plus three other
possible number ranges (as income increases, a different tax
formula should be invoked).

Currently I don't see how this is possible.

Thanks,
paul
  

 You can use nested IF() statements.
 
 =IF(B27=;;IF(B27=...
 
 Ahh. Ok, thanks. Hadn't thought of that. A case select command
 would be nice, but this should do what I need.
 
 Have you tried using lookup tables for this kind of thing.
 Functions: LOOKUP, VLOOKUP etc in Help.
 
 I use them for this purpose in my own tax sheets and they work.
 
 That indeed looks like it would do it, as it amounts to a
 powerful case select statement. Should be interesting working out
 the details. Will get on this maybe tomorrow.
 
 Thanks much,
 Paul
 
 Ok, I'm trying to set this up.
 
 Is there any way to use a function's return as part of a cell
 address?
 
 For instance:
 
  =MATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8)
 
 finds the row in which the H column matches cell E26. but
 
  =G(MATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8))
 
 doesn't work. I want to find the row which contains the value
 searched for, and then use that number in the address of another
 value, here found under column G.
 
 Use something like =INDIRECT(GMATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8)+2)
 
 But LOOKUP does this for you. E.g.
 
 = LOOKUP($E$26;$H$3:$H$8;$G$3:$G$8)


You definitely know your stuff, The INDIRECT formula is awesome,
and you even caught the need for an offset of 2 in my MATCH
formula.

I was getting LOOKUP to return the row number, as does your
formula above, but only because I set up column G to contain that
data. But how then would I use the returned row number to specify
which cells to poll for the tax data? That's where I'm stuck.

Using the INDIRECT formula, I came up with 

=IF(B26=;;B26-( INDIRECT(iMATCH($E$25;$H$3:$H$8)+2)
+INDIRECT(jMATCH($E$25;$H$3:$H$8)+2)*($E$25-LOOKUP(E$25;$H$3:$H$8;$H$3:$H$8

which successfully takes the income in B26 and then subtracts off
the base tax and incremental tax bracket tax. But this is very
unwieldy. If LOOKUP can do this directly, it would be a big
improvement.

Thanks,
Paul

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Re: [users] [moderated]

2006-02-21 Thread Sigrid Kronenberger
Hi Javier, 

Javier Crespo [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

 Hello. I am called Javier Crespo, I am usuary of you for , the only
 detail that and is a year not managed to install the packages of
 dictionaries, would please me to know if the possibility exists that
 offers support me to respect, Thanks and so long...

Can you describe, what you've done? Which version of OOo are you using?
If you're using version 2.0, go to File | Wizards | More dictionaries.
Select the language and then follow the instructions. Please be sure,
that a connection to the internet exists. 

If you prefer to do an offline-installation, please download this file 
http://epm.mine.nu/ooodic (provided by the German NL-team) which
contains all existing dictionaries. Then run File | Wizards | More
dictionaries and then select offline installation. 


Hope, this helps. 


Sigrid



PS: The given link to the file works only for OOo 2.0 (and above) it
won't work for OO.o 1.1.x!

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Re: [users] Converting to HTML using Styles

2006-02-21 Thread CPHennessy
On Sat February 18 2006 18:37, Pete Holsberg wrote:
 CPHennessy wrote:
  On Wed February 15 2006 16:34, Pete Holsberg wrote:
  I have a Heading 1 style defined in OO and when I do a Save As HTML,
  I get this:
 
  H1 { margin-top: 0.2in; margin-bottom: 0.08in; background: transparent;
  color: #00; text-align: center; text-decoration: none;
  page-break-before: auto }
 
  H1.western { font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 20pt }
 
  H1.cjk { font-family: MS Mincho; font-size: 16pt }
 
  H1.ctl { font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 16pt }
 
 
  What are the cjk and ctl classes? Where did they come from? They
  don't seem to be used anywhere in the HTML file; can I delete them
  without adverse effects?
 
  I think that they are probably related to Chinese characters. Also you
  may find that Export As - XHTML may be better.

 I did that with an ODT that had a picture, a table of contents and a couple
 of ordinary tables.

 The picture never got to the XHTML file.
 The page numbers were missing from the TOC.
 All of the tables were shmooshed against the LH margin so much that their
 LH border was cut off.

 Did I do something wrong?
It does not sound like it. But what version of OpenOffice.org are you using ?

 Thanks. And for the record, I wasn't chiding you! :-)
I did not think that you were.

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Re: [users] Cursor not saved to last position

2006-02-21 Thread Ross Johnson
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 11:18 -0500, G. Roderick Singleton wrote:
 On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 01:13 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
  On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 08:48 -0500, G. Roderick Singleton wrote:
   On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 09:48 +0100, Thomas Lange wrote:

Hi all,

 Sorry, I should have mentioned I'm using 2.0.1, and yes, I have all 
 my user
 information filled in. It's very strange.
  
   As to your supposed problem, please try setting the following:
   Tools  Options  OpenOffice.org  View with any settings you personally
   need that are different from the default. For example, Restore  Editing
   view. For detail, click Help on the dialogue box Help button and follow
   the links.
  
  There's a curious sentence in Help for Restore  Editing view, which
  says that Write documents always open on page 1. So whatever has changed
  seems to have warranted a conscious statement in Help.
  
 
 Help is being updated constantly. If you think the wording is incorrect,
 I suggest that you enter an Request for Enhancement (RFE) into Issue
 Tracker as this is the best way to have requests such as this evaluated.

?? I wasn't suggesting that - just the opposite. OOo2.0.1 does exactly
what the Help says, but this thread is saying that the behaviour has
changed from earlier versions.


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Re: [users] How to access MySQL DB from Open Office for a report

2006-02-21 Thread CPHennessy
On Tue February 21 2006 15:55, Bob wrote:
 I'm a relative newbie to MySQL, but have been using OO for some time.
 Just upgraded to OO 2.x and installed MySQL 5.0.X (neither are beta
 versions).

 I have several MySQL databases, and would like to use OO to generate
 reports from those existing databases, but am unable to connect to the
 DBs. Both are nothing fancy, just single tables. I've followed the
 spartan directions in OO Help, and the ODBC and JODBC connections
 indicate they're loaded.

 I've searched the MySQL and OO web sites for specific assistance, but
 can't find anything that helps.

 Can anyone here point me in the right direction?

Did you follow the directions on http://dba.openoffice.org ?

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Re: [users] Adding Postnet Bar Code to letter writer

2006-02-21 Thread CPHennessy
On Mon February 20 2006 17:27, + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I really love the product and have no complaint.., but is there a way you
 could program it to print Postnet (62 bar) codes.These come in real handy
 for anyone generating letter mail from the system. I am not a programmer so
 I'm not able to do this but it is a suggestion to the rest of the eager
 young minds.  The post office has books that explain generation of these 
 codes in detail.  This is not to say it would LOOK UP a Zip Code.  The
 writer would simply input the proper 9 digit bar code and the system would
 change it to an 11 digit (62 bars) bar code.  Please put this suggestion
 out to your people. Thank you

Hi Betty,

Please read all of the following before downloading anything :

As you are not subscribed you may not have seen that:

On Tue February 21 2006 07:17, Ross Johnson wrote:
  
   Hi Betty,
  
   I'm currently looking at adding barcodes to a database project using
   OOo (forms, label printing etc). I understand that all I need are
   appropriate barcode fonts, and these can easily be installed so that
   OOo can use them. I'm about to test it, so I haven't confirmed anything
   yet.
  
   There are lots of free barcode font sets on the web of various quality.
   There are also commercial font sets. E.g.: Take a look at this tutorial
   on installing barcode fonts for OpenOffice/StarOffice:
  
   http://www.idautomation.com/openoffice/
  
   A quick Google search turns up the following PostNet barcode font
   sites:
  
   Commercial fonts:
   http://idautomation.com/fonts/postnet/
   many others sites as well
  
   Free fonts:
   http://www.popularshareware.com/POSTNET-Barcode-Fonts-download-3102.htm
  l
 
  I was duped with this last link by the shareware notion of 'free', which
  must be interpreted as 'free download' of a demo or crippled version of
  a commercial product for which you must pay to use.
 
  However, to make up for it, I've tracked down a real 'free' Postnet
  barcode font. The following web page lists many sources of bar code
  fonts:
 
  http://www.adams1.com/pub/russadam/fonts.html
 
  and in the Postnet group there is at least one set:
 
  A Postnet TTF - author unknown.
 
  which is unconditionally free.
 
  This is a TrueType font and I ahve successfully installed it for use in
  my copy of OOo on Linux. The chances are that you are on Windows, so you
  should be able to install it following the instructions for installing
  fonts that come with Windows. I assume that once you've done that and
  shutdown all OOo windows and restarted them, the font will appear in the
  font list.
 
  You will need to turn off the font preview mode that OOo turns on by
  default in order to see the font name listed - otherwise this font set
  will appear as a blank entry in the list.
 
  In OOo2:
  Go to: Tools  Options  OpenOffice.org  View
  Under 'Font Lists', uncheck 'Show preview of fonts'.
 
  In OOo1:
  Go to: Tools  Options  General  View
  Under 'Font Lists', uncheck 'Show preview of fonts'.
 
  Now, you can type some numbers, select them, then change the font and
  Voila! Postnet barcode (almost - but not yet). You can't put this on
  your envelope as it is. The barcode on the envelope needs some
  additional information embedded in it.
 
  The first piece of additional information is a check digit, which is
  calculated from the postal code as follows (anyone, please feel free to
  correct this - although I know there is other info you can add, this is
  the simplest valid form):
 
  Postal code: '12345' (say)
 
  Sum the digits: 1+2+3+4+5 = 15
 
  Calculate the number that you need to add to this number to make the
  last digit of the sum a zero (0).
  That is, 15 + ? = ?0
  The answer in this case is: 5
  I.e. 15 + 5 = 20
 
  Add this number to the postal code as the last digit.
  Postnet sequence is now: 123455
 
  Finally, wrap the digit sequence in square brackets. Your final text for
  the Postnet barcode is now: [123455]
 
  When you format this text using the Postnet barcode font, you will have
  your Postnet barcode. E.g. Type [123455] into Writer, select the whole
  [123455] text and change the font to the Postnet barcode font that you
  just installed.
 
  Your only problem now is where to calculate this sequence, and how to
  put it on your envelope. Perhaps others can help out with that if you
  need it, but if you use a database or spreadsheet to store your address
  list, then that is one place you could do it. I.e. have a Postnet
  sequence column with the addressee's pre-computed Postnet code stored
  there, or compute it on-the-fly, perhaps as part of a database query.
  This way, no OOo macros are required.

 One last thing. You mentioned using 9 digit Postnet codes. This will be
 the 5 digit zip plus 4 digit suffix. I don't know what the suffix is
 (I'm in Australia), but the rule is the same. Add all 9 digits, find the
 check digit (sum + check = ?0), append that digit to make 10 digits.

Re: [users] Re: Re: Applying function returns to cell addresses

2006-02-21 Thread Ross Johnson
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 10:38 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
 On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:57:40 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 20:44 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
  On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:02:13 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
  
  On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 18:52 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
  On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:27:22 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
  
  On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:31:28 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
  
  On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 15:29 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
  On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 10:59:58 -0600, Rod Engelsman wrote:
  
  Paul_B wrote:
  
 Is there any way to set up a multiple case logic test?
 
 Currently I have =IF(B27=;;B27-(14.325+(E$25-70.35)*0.28)) as
 a formula in a column of cells. It tests another column's cell,
 if it's empty the result is null, otherwise a tax approximation
 kicks in.
 
 However, I'd like to allow for a few tax brackets. To do so I'd
 need to account for the null possibility plus three other
 possible number ranges (as income increases, a different tax
 formula should be invoked).
 
 Currently I don't see how this is possible.
 
 Thanks,
 paul
   
 
  You can use nested IF() statements.
  
  =IF(B27=;;IF(B27=...
  
  Ahh. Ok, thanks. Hadn't thought of that. A case select command
  would be nice, but this should do what I need.
  
  Have you tried using lookup tables for this kind of thing.
  Functions: LOOKUP, VLOOKUP etc in Help.
  
  I use them for this purpose in my own tax sheets and they work.
  
  That indeed looks like it would do it, as it amounts to a
  powerful case select statement. Should be interesting working out
  the details. Will get on this maybe tomorrow.
  
  Thanks much,
  Paul
  
  Ok, I'm trying to set this up.
  
  Is there any way to use a function's return as part of a cell
  address?
  
  For instance:
  
   =MATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8)
  
  finds the row in which the H column matches cell E26. but
  
   =G(MATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8))
  
  doesn't work. I want to find the row which contains the value
  searched for, and then use that number in the address of another
  value, here found under column G.
  
  Use something like =INDIRECT(GMATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8)+2)
  
  But LOOKUP does this for you. E.g.
  
  = LOOKUP($E$26;$H$3:$H$8;$G$3:$G$8)
  
  You definitely know your stuff, The INDIRECT formula is awesome,
  and you even caught the need for an offset of 2 in my MATCH
  formula.
  
  I was getting LOOKUP to return the row number, as does your
  formula above, but only because I set up column G to contain that
  data. But how then would I use the returned row number to specify
  which cells to poll for the tax data? That's where I'm stuck.
  
  Using the INDIRECT formula, I came up with 
  
  =IF(B26=;;B26-( INDIRECT(iMATCH($E$25;$H$3:$H$8)+2)
  +INDIRECT(jMATCH($E$25;$H$3:$H$8)+2)*($E$25-LOOKUP(E$25;$H$3:$H$8;$H$3:$H$8
  
  which successfully takes the income in B26 and then subtracts off
  the base tax and incremental tax bracket tax. But this is very
  unwieldy. If LOOKUP can do this directly, it would be a big
  improvement.
  
  Hey. Compliments always work :)
  
  I guess this has turned into a bit of a tutorial on lookup tables now.
  
  I assume your tax brackets are structured the same as mine, i.e a table
  like this (top left at cell H3):
  
  0   0   0   Tax free threshold
  1   1   0   0.15$0 plus $0.15 for each $ over $1
  2   3   15000.25
  4   5   65000.30
  6   8   95000.35
  9   2   0.45$2 plus $0.45 for each $ over $9
  
  $9 is the top threshold. If you don't have a tax-free threshold
  where you are then you can see how the table would change.
  
  The second column isn't actually needed in the formulae.
  
  Tax:
  =IF(B260;0;LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$J$3:$J$7) 
  +(B26-LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$J$3:$J$7))
  *LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$K$3:$K$7))
  
  Of course, the formula is a lot simpler if you store the base tax amount
  for your income in another cell.
  
  Base Tax:
  B27 =LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$J$3:$J$7)
  
  Tax:
  =IF(B260;0;B27+(B26-B27)*LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$K$3:$K$7))
  
  I give no warranty that these formulae won't get you a jail term :)
 
 
 
 Wow, it's so simple once I see it. I was missing the obvious step
 of looking up the tax bracket floor again and subtracting it from
 the actual income, in preparation for multiplication by the
 incremental rate.
 
 Thanks very much for taking the time to lay this out. Hopefully
 others have gained from it as much as I.

Thanks for spotting the error.
I incorrectly subtracted the base tax from the income instead of the
income threshold for that tax. The simplified version I gave is also
invalid then.

The formula should be (for completeness):

Tax:
 =IF(B260;0;LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$8;$J$3:$J$8) 
 +(B26-LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$8;$H$3:$H$8))
 *LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$8;$K$3:$K$8))


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Re: [users] Can't open the program

2006-02-21 Thread CPHennessy
On Sun February 19 2006 22:06, + klm3013 wrote:
  [ MODERATED ] ***
 Every time I try to open the progran (OpenOffice 2.0), just downloaded
 today, it tries to install itself. I want to try it, and if I like it, I
 will be making a contribution.

Hi Ken,
 To try it you will obviously have to install it. Then you can start it from 
Start - Programs - OpenOffice.org - Writer

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Re: [users] [moderated]

2006-02-21 Thread Keith Bates
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:15:16 -0600
Kevin Rood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was wondering if there is a way to change the default margins in
 the Writer so that you do not have to change them every time you open
 the Writer.  Currently the default is .79; however, I always use 1 
 margins.  I would like it if I don't have to change the margins to 1 
 every time I open the Writer.
 
 Thanks,
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This is very easy to do. You just need to modify your Default
template.

In writer, click the down arrow next to the New icon and select
Templates and Documents. This will open a blank document. Get the
margins, fonts, paper size etc. the way you like it then go File-
Documents Templates- Save. Highlight the Template icon, select My
Templates and save as Default

From now on, every time you open a new document that default template
will be used.

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Re: [users] My open office crashed!

2006-02-21 Thread CPHennessy
On Mon February 20 2006 07:32, + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wasn't on-line at the time.  I just recently downloaded the new Open
 Office.  I was creating my first word processing document last night, when
 I pointed to  clicked on Zoom.  That crashed the document.  Open Office
 backed itself up, though, and I was able to get right back into it even
 though I hadn't saved it previously -- very smooth backup, I like that. 
 But the program asked me to contact you and let you know, and I had to wait
 until I was back on-line to do so.

 Also, I thought I would let you know that I am an extremely fast typist and
 find the program to be slower than I type, so if you're looking for
 suggestions I would suggest speeding it up.  And I opened a document that
 had been e-mailed to me in Microsoft Word from a doctor, and the letterhead
 part of his stationery came out weird.  Can anybody tell me how to fix
 that?

 Not that I'm complaining; hey, it's free.  My computer came with Microsoft
 Works and THAT program won't open Word documents at all!  So I'm happy. 
 But you did ask for feedback.


Hi Ellen
As you are not subscribed you may not have seen that:
On Mon February 20 2006 19:40, Jallan wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I wasn't on-line at the time.  I just recently downloaded the new Open
  Office.  I was creating my first word processing document last night,
  when I pointed to  clicked on Zoom.  That crashed the document.  Open
  Office backed itself up, though, and I was able to get right back into it
  even though I hadn't saved it previously -- very smooth backup, I like
  that.  But the program asked me to contact you and let you know, and I
  had to wait until I was back on-line to do so.

 That message refers to allowing the program itself to send crash data to
 OpenOffice.org. If you are not on line, of course you cannot do it, at
 least not without leaving that message up until you are on line again.
 You will get such messages in event of a crash. If you are on line, then
   you click to send the crash information if you wish. Otherwise, don't
 worry.

  Also, I thought I would let you know that I am an extremely fast typist
  and find the program to be slower than I type, so if you're looking for
  suggestions I would suggest speeding it up.

 OpenOffice modules are noticeably slower in coming up than many other
 programs, but a complaint about slowness in data input is unusual.
 Perhaps you could provide information on the OS you are using.

 There was earlier a similar complaint about an earlier version of
 OpenOffice.org Writer. See
 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=34401 , apparently fixed.

 Possibly something has slowed it down again, at least on some systems.
 If on most systems input is accepted more rapidly than most people can
 type, such a slowdown will not generally have been noticed.

 See also http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=36304

  And I opened a document that had been
  e-mailed to me in Microsoft Word from a doctor, and the letterhead part
  of his stationery came out weird.  Can anybody tell me how to fix that?

 Imports from MS Word are usually good but sometimes not perfect and
 the same is true about going from OpenOffice.org Writer to MS Word.
 (Similarly the same is true between WordPerfect and MS Word, or between
 Adobe In-Design and Quark Express, and so forth.)

 If you wish you can register and file a bug report on either or both of
 these problems at
 http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/pre_submission.html


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Re: [users] [moderated]

2006-02-21 Thread Dave Barton
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 17:15 -0600, Kevin Rood wrote:
 I was wondering if there is a way to change the default margins in the 
 Writer so that you do not have to change them every time you open the 
 Writer.  Currently the default is .79; however, I always use 1 
 margins.  I would like it if I don't have to change the margins to 1 
 every time I open the Writer.
 
 Thanks,
 Kevin Rood

You need to modify your default template. Open the help file and search
for Template Management.

Hope this helps.

Dave

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Re: [users] Re: Imposing Styles

2006-02-21 Thread Pete Holsberg

Solveig L Haugland wrote:


Here's a way to bring styles from one doc to another--the PDF
mentioned might cover this as well. Go to the document someone
submited to you, where you need to have your styles. Choose Format 
Styles and Formatting. Find the far-right top icon with the downward
facing black triangle, click on it, and choose Load Styles. In the
styles window that appears, mark all the types of styles you want to
bring in from your template, then click From File, select your
template file, and click Open. (If your template file is already
listed in one of the template categories shown, you don't have to
click From File.)


The following approach doesn't seem to work.

1) Open new file using the template that has the styles I want.
2) Copy and paste the other doc into the new file.

I would have thought that the styles in the new file would override the ones in 
the doc being pasted but that doesn't seem to be the case. I have to select 
each paragraph and double-click the style name.

Am I doing something wrong?

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Re: [users] Cannot open or save to dbf format: Read-Error. Impossible to connect,to the file.

2006-02-21 Thread CPHennessy
On Sun February 12 2006 12:45, Eric Patton wrote:
 Opening an old dbf-4 gives the error message Read-Error. Impossible to
 connect
 to the file. I also cannot save to dbf format. I receive the same error.

 Western-Europe Dos/OS2-850/International encoding used during dbf import
 to Calc.
 Selecting other encoding possibilities gives the same error message.

 This dbf can be opened using Calc 2.0.1 on a Windows XP SP2 machine. It was
 created on the same machine.

 Using Ubuntu Breezy 5.10.

 Can anyone confirm this error?

Hi Eric,
 Can you please try an official version of OpenOffice.org from 
http://openoffice.org to see if it is possible ?


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Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

2006-02-21 Thread Dave Barton
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 17:52 -0600, Judy Pratt wrote:
 I would like to use OpenOffice.  My connection speed is too slow to
 download it off the netI tried for one full day and never got it
 on my computer.  Can I purchase a CD or some way to use the product?
 Thanks 
 Judy Pratt
 
 
 Judy Pratt

Yes you can. See: http://distribution.openoffice.org/cdrom/

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[users] Re: Applying function returns to cell addresses

2006-02-21 Thread Randomthots

Paul_B wrote:



The formula should be (for completeness):

Tax:
=IF(B260;0;LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$8;$J$3:$J$8) 
+(B26-LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$8;$H$3:$H$8))

*LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$8;$K$3:$K$8))




Ok, I neglected to define one more parameter on my sheet. B26
here is pre-tax net worth, rather than income, while E26 is the
current level of capital gains, which is what the tax exclusively
will be based on. After I determine the tax on capital gains I
subtract it from B26 to get current net worth, tax liability
inclusive. Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks so much for your help. It appears to be working fine here,
and I've learned a lot. Very powerful tool.

Paul



If I may add one final thought on this, do yourself a favor and use 
named ranges. That way your formula will be something like:


=IF(Taxable0;0;LOOKUP(Taxable;Threshold;Mar_FJ)+.

It makes the whole thing enormously more readable and understandable 
next year when you need to revise it all again.


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[users] Re: Applying function returns to cell addresses

2006-02-21 Thread Paul_B
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:43:55 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:

 On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 10:38 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
 On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:57:40 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
 
 On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 20:44 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
 On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:02:13 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
 
 On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 18:52 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
 On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:27:22 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
 
 On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:31:28 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
 
 On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 15:29 -0500, Paul_B wrote:
 On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 10:59:58 -0600, Rod Engelsman wrote:
 
 Paul_B wrote:
 
Is there any way to set up a multiple case logic test?

Currently I have =IF(B27=;;B27-(14.325+(E$25-70.35)*0.28)) as
a formula in a column of cells. It tests another column's cell,
if it's empty the result is null, otherwise a tax approximation
kicks in.

However, I'd like to allow for a few tax brackets. To do so I'd
need to account for the null possibility plus three other
possible number ranges (as income increases, a different tax
formula should be invoked).

Currently I don't see how this is possible.

Thanks,
paul
  

 You can use nested IF() statements.
 
 =IF(B27=;;IF(B27=...
 
 Ahh. Ok, thanks. Hadn't thought of that. A case select command
 would be nice, but this should do what I need.
 
 Have you tried using lookup tables for this kind of thing.
 Functions: LOOKUP, VLOOKUP etc in Help.
 
 I use them for this purpose in my own tax sheets and they work.
 
 That indeed looks like it would do it, as it amounts to a
 powerful case select statement. Should be interesting working out
 the details. Will get on this maybe tomorrow.
 
 Thanks much,
 Paul
 
 Ok, I'm trying to set this up.
 
 Is there any way to use a function's return as part of a cell
 address?
 
 For instance:
 
  =MATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8)
 
 finds the row in which the H column matches cell E26. but
 
  =G(MATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8))
 
 doesn't work. I want to find the row which contains the value
 searched for, and then use that number in the address of another
 value, here found under column G.
 
 Use something like =INDIRECT(GMATCH($E$26;$H$3:$H$8)+2)
 
 But LOOKUP does this for you. E.g.
 
 = LOOKUP($E$26;$H$3:$H$8;$G$3:$G$8)
 
 You definitely know your stuff, The INDIRECT formula is awesome,
 and you even caught the need for an offset of 2 in my MATCH
 formula.
 
 I was getting LOOKUP to return the row number, as does your
 formula above, but only because I set up column G to contain that
 data. But how then would I use the returned row number to specify
 which cells to poll for the tax data? That's where I'm stuck.
 
 Using the INDIRECT formula, I came up with 
 
 =IF(B26=;;B26-( INDIRECT(iMATCH($E$25;$H$3:$H$8)+2)
 +INDIRECT(jMATCH($E$25;$H$3:$H$8)+2)*($E$25-LOOKUP(E$25;$H$3:$H$8;$H$3:$H$8
 
 which successfully takes the income in B26 and then subtracts off
 the base tax and incremental tax bracket tax. But this is very
 unwieldy. If LOOKUP can do this directly, it would be a big
 improvement.
 
 Hey. Compliments always work :)
 
 I guess this has turned into a bit of a tutorial on lookup tables now.
 
 I assume your tax brackets are structured the same as mine, i.e a table
 like this (top left at cell H3):
 
 0   0   0   Tax free threshold
 1   1   0   0.15$0 plus $0.15 for each $ over $1
 2   3   15000.25
 4   5   65000.30
 6   8   95000.35
 9   2   0.45$2 plus $0.45 for each $ over $9
 
 $9 is the top threshold. If you don't have a tax-free threshold
 where you are then you can see how the table would change.
 
 The second column isn't actually needed in the formulae.
 
 Tax:
 =IF(B260;0;LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$J$3:$J$7) 
 +(B26-LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$J$3:$J$7))
 *LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$K$3:$K$7))
 
 Of course, the formula is a lot simpler if you store the base tax amount
 for your income in another cell.
 
 Base Tax:
 B27 =LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$J$3:$J$7)
 
 Tax:
 =IF(B260;0;B27+(B26-B27)*LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$7;$K$3:$K$7))
 
 I give no warranty that these formulae won't get you a jail term :)
 
 Wow, it's so simple once I see it. I was missing the obvious step
 of looking up the tax bracket floor again and subtracting it from
 the actual income, in preparation for multiplication by the
 incremental rate.
 
 Thanks very much for taking the time to lay this out. Hopefully
 others have gained from it as much as I.
 
 Thanks for spotting the error.
 I incorrectly subtracted the base tax from the income instead of the
 income threshold for that tax. The simplified version I gave is also
 invalid then.
 
 The formula should be (for completeness):
 
 Tax:
  =IF(B260;0;LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$8;$J$3:$J$8) 
  +(B26-LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$8;$H$3:$H$8))
  *LOOKUP(B26;$H$3:$H$8;$K$3:$K$8))


Ok, I neglected to define one more parameter on my sheet. B26
here is pre-tax net worth, rather than income, while E26 is the
current level of capital gains, which is what the tax 

[users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

2006-02-21 Thread Judy Pratt
I would like to use OpenOffice.  My connection speed is too slow to download it 
off the netI tried for one full day and never got it on my computer.  Can I 
purchase a CD or some way to use the product?
Thanks 
Judy Pratt


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