Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc
Agreed Daniel. I got an email about 2 months ago from Telstra offering me a “concession” discount of $15 per phone per month. I was on $45 for my phone and $45 for my wife’s phone (so $90 per month) So this would take it down to $30 each. Because I had trouble applying online I phoned them. Each time i typed in my Pension Number it came to a halt. They told me that “concession” only applied to customers on a Disabled Pension. I pointed out that their email simply stated “concession”. I am on an Aged Pension concession card. I told them that I would be reporting this to the ACCC. So they offered me the $15 discount for 12 months and they changed the wording in their promotion. So when the 12 months is up I may be looking for an alternative. On 10 Sep 2022, at 4:19 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG <[1]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote: Hi Stephen Yes when they come up, it’s sometimes worth looking at the “other providers” that also use the Telstra network. There are actually some good options out there. (We even looked at one that was sold through Woolworthes on the Telstra network. They let you choose a 10% discount off one shop per month. So we worked out for my son’s mobile that we could pretty much get his plan “paid for free” by having a large shop one week a month. The discount we saved from the shopping more than paid for his monthly mobile account. :) There are certainly a lot of them around now. Telstra still have good coverage - but they seem to be back to their old ways of increasing the plans constantly. It used to be $45 per month for our plan - then it went to $55 per month. And now it’s just gone up again to $58 per month. I keep meaning to look at moving it, as to be honest for what they offer compared to the other companies - there’s definitely better value out there. And yet still uses the Telstra network which is one of the better coverage networks out there. (In my opinion). Their support has gotten a bit better too (since they moved it back from overseas),..so that’s a bit of a plus as well. But for two mobiles (which we use a lot), plus my son’s,..it all adds up. So definitely worth considering some of the others I think. Well,..in my opinion anyway,..hehe. A few google searches for things like “Best Mobile provider on Telstra network” generally gives some good results - for things like the links I had before or [2]https://www.reviews.org/au/mobile/best-mobile-providers-on-the-telst ra-network/ Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry p : 0414 795 960 e : w : <[4]http://www.macwizardry.com.au> **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 10 Sep 2022, at 4:06 pm, Stephen Chape via WAMUG <[5]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote: Although Rod. Having now taken a look at Boost Mobile. The prepaid plans they offer (using the Telstra network) will make me think when mine comes up for renewal. I use about 0.5 MG of data per month, and my wife about the same. We are on a special Telstra pensioner plan which has about 10 months to go. Both iPhones are on one account for $30.00 per phone per month (so $60.00 per month). Pretty hard to beat at the moment. On 10 Sep 2022, at 3:48 pm, Rod Blitvich <[1][6]rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote: Thank you Daniel, Tim and Stephen! cheers Blitto Rod Blitvich - Amy & Sam’s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [2][7]rb...@iinet.net.au On 10 Sep 2022, at 1:41 pm, Stephen Chape via WAMUG <[3][8]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote: Hi Rod. I can’t see any advantage in changing your plan. Just stay with the current $55.00 month plan in my opinion. Especially as you don’t need the extra GB. If your are buying the new phone outright, just switch the SIM over. If you are getting the new phone with a plan, ask Telstra if they will keep you on your current plan. On 10 Sep 2022, at 11:38 am, Tim Law via WAMUG <[1][4][9]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote: Rod I moved to Boost which uses the full Telstra network. Not sure about 5G $20 a month for 10gb I think. Tim Law On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:56 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG <[2][5][10]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc
Hi Stephen Yes when they come up, it’s sometimes worth looking at the “other providers” that also use the Telstra network. There are actually some good options out there. (We even looked at one that was sold through Woolworthes on the Telstra network. They let you choose a 10% discount off one shop per month. So we worked out for my son’s mobile that we could pretty much get his plan “paid for free” by having a large shop one week a month. The discount we saved from the shopping more than paid for his monthly mobile account. :) There are certainly a lot of them around now. Telstra still have good coverage - but they seem to be back to their old ways of increasing the plans constantly. It used to be $45 per month for our plan - then it went to $55 per month. And now it’s just gone up again to $58 per month. I keep meaning to look at moving it, as to be honest for what they offer compared to the other companies - there’s definitely better value out there. And yet still uses the Telstra network which is one of the better coverage networks out there. (In my opinion). Their support has gotten a bit better too (since they moved it back from overseas),..so that’s a bit of a plus as well. But for two mobiles (which we use a lot), plus my son’s,..it all adds up. So definitely worth considering some of the others I think. Well,..in my opinion anyway,..hehe. A few google searches for things like “Best Mobile provider on Telstra network” generally gives some good results - for things like the links I had before or https://www.reviews.org/au/mobile/best-mobile-providers-on-the-telstra-network/ Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry p : 0414 795 960 e : w : <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. > On 10 Sep 2022, at 4:06 pm, Stephen Chape via WAMUG > wrote: > > Although Rod. > > Having now taken a look at Boost Mobile. > > The prepaid plans they offer (using the Telstra network) will make me > think when mine comes up for renewal. > > I use about 0.5 MG of data per month, and my wife about the same. > > We are on a special Telstra pensioner plan which has about 10 months to > go. > > Both iPhones are on one account for $30.00 per phone per month (so > $60.00 per month). > > Pretty hard to beat at the moment. > > On 10 Sep 2022, at 3:48 pm, Rod Blitvich <[1]rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > Thank you Daniel, Tim and Stephen! > > cheers > > Blitto > > Rod Blitvich - Amy & Sam’s Dad > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > [2]rb...@iinet.net.au > > On 10 Sep 2022, at 1:41 pm, Stephen Chape via WAMUG > <[3]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote: > > Hi Rod. > I can’t see any advantage in changing your plan. > Just stay with the current $55.00 month plan in my opinion. > Especially as you don’t need the extra GB. > If your are buying the new phone outright, just switch the SIM over. > If you are getting the new phone with a plan, ask Telstra if they > will > keep you on your current plan. > On 10 Sep 2022, at 11:38 am, Tim Law via WAMUG > <[1][4]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote: > Rod I moved to Boost which uses the full Telstra network. Not sure > about 5G > $20 a month for 10gb I think. > Tim Law > On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:56 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG > <[2][5]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote: > Hi Rod > You may find some of the others that use the Telstra network - > still > give good coverage but at a cheaper price - > This link has some good info as well - > [3][6]https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-netw > ork > There were a few on this link around the $30-$40 plan still on > Telstra with 5G > [7]https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-Telstra- > netw > ork-MVNO-plans > (Eg Made had soul ate 5G, 60GB data for $40 pm.) > I’ve had a few clients use other carries but still on the Telstra > network and been happy with them. > Hope that helps. > Kind regards > Daniel > Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro > --- > Daniel Kerr > MacWizardry > p : 0414 795 960 > e : > w : <[9]http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >
Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc
Although Rod. Having now taken a look at Boost Mobile. The prepaid plans they offer (using the Telstra network) will make me think when mine comes up for renewal. I use about 0.5 MG of data per month, and my wife about the same. We are on a special Telstra pensioner plan which has about 10 months to go. Both iPhones are on one account for $30.00 per phone per month (so $60.00 per month). Pretty hard to beat at the moment. On 10 Sep 2022, at 3:48 pm, Rod Blitvich <[1]rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote: Thank you Daniel, Tim and Stephen! cheers Blitto Rod Blitvich - Amy & Sam’s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [2]rb...@iinet.net.au On 10 Sep 2022, at 1:41 pm, Stephen Chape via WAMUG <[3]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote: Hi Rod. I can’t see any advantage in changing your plan. Just stay with the current $55.00 month plan in my opinion. Especially as you don’t need the extra GB. If your are buying the new phone outright, just switch the SIM over. If you are getting the new phone with a plan, ask Telstra if they will keep you on your current plan. On 10 Sep 2022, at 11:38 am, Tim Law via WAMUG <[1][4]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote: Rod I moved to Boost which uses the full Telstra network. Not sure about 5G $20 a month for 10gb I think. Tim Law On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:56 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG <[2][5]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote: Hi Rod You may find some of the others that use the Telstra network - still give good coverage but at a cheaper price - This link has some good info as well - [3][6]https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-netw ork There were a few on this link around the $30-$40 plan still on Telstra with 5G [7]https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-Telstra- netw ork-MVNO-plans (Eg Made had soul ate 5G, 60GB data for $40 pm.) I’ve had a few clients use other carries but still on the Telstra network and been happy with them. Hope that helps. Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry p : 0414 795 960 e : w : <[9]http://www.macwizardry.com.au> **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:32 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG <[10]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote: Hi Folks I have a Telstra Moblie Plan Small with my iPhone X If I decide it’s time to upgrade to the iPhone 14 AND I want to stay with Telstra (for remote area coverage) - do you have any advice please? My current Telstra plan gives me 40 GB. I rarely use 10 GB. Should I stay on my current Telstra Moblie Plan Small @ $55 per month? Or Shift to a new Telstra Upfront Mobile Plan Basic @ $58 with 40 GB and capped speed 250Mbps 4G and 5G? Or JB HiFi Telstra plan 60 GB @ $49, 3G, 4G/4GX BUT not 5G? OR - do you recommend any other plan with Telstra as the carrier? [1][11]https://www.whistleout.com.au/ doesn’t seem to list anything with Telstra carrier AND 5G under $68 Many thanks for your advice Blitto [[12]cid:3320202049_5684508] Rod Blitvich - Amy & Sam’s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [2][13]rb...@iinet.net.au References 1. [14]https://www.whistleout.com.au/ 2. [15]x-msg://329/rb...@iinet.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <[16]https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/> Guidelines - <[17]http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <[18]http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <[19]https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/> Guidelines - <[20]http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <[21]http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <[4][22]https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/> Guidelines - <[5][23]http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.
Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc
Thank you Daniel, Tim and Stephen! cheers Blitto Rod Blitvich - Amy & Sam’s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . rb...@iinet.net.au > On 10 Sep 2022, at 1:41 pm, Stephen Chape via WAMUG > wrote: > > Hi Rod. > > I can’t see any advantage in changing your plan. > > Just stay with the current $55.00 month plan in my opinion. > > Especially as you don’t need the extra GB. > > If your are buying the new phone outright, just switch the SIM over. > > If you are getting the new phone with a plan, ask Telstra if they will > keep you on your current plan. > > On 10 Sep 2022, at 11:38 am, Tim Law via WAMUG > <[1]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au <mailto:wa...@lists.wamug.org.au>> wrote: > > Rod I moved to Boost which uses the full Telstra network. Not sure > about 5G > $20 a month for 10gb I think. > Tim Law > > On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:56 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG > <[2]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au <mailto:wa...@lists.wamug.org.au>> wrote: > Hi Rod > You may find some of the others that use the Telstra network - still > give good coverage but at a cheaper price - > This link has some good info as well - > [3]https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-network > <https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-network> > There were a few on this link around the $30-$40 plan still on > Telstra with 5G > https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-Telstra-netw > <https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-Telstra-netw> > ork-MVNO-plans > (Eg Made had soul ate 5G, 60GB data for $40 pm.) > I’ve had a few clients use other carries but still on the Telstra > network and been happy with them. > Hope that helps. > Kind regards > Daniel > Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro > --- > Daniel Kerr > MacWizardry > p : 0414 795 960 > e : > w : <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> > **For everything Apple** > NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal > opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the > views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or > warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be > appreciated that if any information in this email is to be > disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author > be requested. > > On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:32 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG > wrote: > Hi Folks > I have a Telstra Moblie Plan Small with my iPhone X > If I decide it’s time to upgrade to the iPhone 14 AND I want to stay > with Telstra (for remote area coverage) - do you have any advice > please? > My current Telstra plan gives me 40 GB. I rarely use 10 GB. > Should I stay on my current Telstra Moblie Plan Small @ $55 per > month? > Or Shift to a new Telstra Upfront Mobile Plan Basic @ $58 with 40 GB > and capped speed 250Mbps 4G and 5G? > Or JB HiFi Telstra plan 60 GB @ $49, 3G, 4G/4GX BUT not 5G? > OR - do you recommend any other plan with Telstra as the carrier? > [1]https://www.whistleout.com.au/ doesn’t seem to list anything with > Telstra carrier AND 5G under $68 > Many thanks for your advice > Blitto > [cid:3320202049_5684508] > Rod Blitvich - Amy & Sam’s Dad > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > [2]rb...@iinet.net.au > References > 1. https://www.whistleout.com.au/ > 2. x-msg://329/rb...@iinet.net.au > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <[4]https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/ > <https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/>> > Guidelines - <[5]http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml > <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml>> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <[6]http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >
Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc
Hi Rod.
I can’t see any advantage in changing your plan.
Just stay with the current $55.00 month plan in my opinion.
Especially as you don’t need the extra GB.
If your are buying the new phone outright, just switch the SIM over.
If you are getting the new phone with a plan, ask Telstra if they will
keep you on your current plan.
On 10 Sep 2022, at 11:38 am, Tim Law via WAMUG
<[1]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
Rod I moved to Boost which uses the full Telstra network. Not sure
about 5G
$20 a month for 10gb I think.
Tim Law
On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:56 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
<[2]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
Hi Rod
You may find some of the others that use the Telstra network - still
give good coverage but at a cheaper price -
This link has some good info as well -
[3]https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-network
There were a few on this link around the $30-$40 plan still on
Telstra with 5G
https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-Telstra-netw
ork-MVNO-plans
(Eg Made had soul ate 5G, 60GB data for $40 pm.)
I’ve had a few clients use other carries but still on the Telstra
network and been happy with them.
Hope that helps.
Kind regards
Daniel
Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro
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On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:32 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
wrote:
Hi Folks
I have a Telstra Moblie Plan Small with my iPhone X
If I decide it’s time to upgrade to the iPhone 14 AND I want to stay
with Telstra (for remote area coverage) - do you have any advice
please?
My current Telstra plan gives me 40 GB. I rarely use 10 GB.
Should I stay on my current Telstra Moblie Plan Small @ $55 per
month?
Or Shift to a new Telstra Upfront Mobile Plan Basic @ $58 with 40 GB
and capped speed 250Mbps 4G and 5G?
Or JB HiFi Telstra plan 60 GB @ $49, 3G, 4G/4GX BUT not 5G?
OR - do you recommend any other plan with Telstra as the carrier?
[1]https://www.whistleout.com.au/ doesn’t seem to list anything with
Telstra carrier AND 5G under $68
Many thanks for your advice
Blitto
[cid:3320202049_5684508]
Rod Blitvich - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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References
1. https://www.whistleout.com.au/
2. x-msg://329/rb...@iinet.net.au
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Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc
Rod I moved to Boost which uses the full Telstra network. Not sure about 5G $20 a month for 10gb I think. Tim Law > On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:56 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG > wrote: > > Hi Rod > > You may find some of the others that use the Telstra network - still give > good coverage but at a cheaper price - > This link has some good info as well - > https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-network > > There were a few on this link around the $30-$40 plan still on Telstra with 5G > https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-Telstra-network-MVNO-plans > (Eg Made had soul ate 5G, 60GB data for $40 pm.) > > I’ve had a few clients use other carries but still on the Telstra network and > been happy with them. > Hope that helps. > Kind regards > Daniel > > Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro > > --- > Daniel Kerr > MacWizardry > > p : 0414 795 960 > e : > w : <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> > > > **For everything Apple** > > NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and > as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. > Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or > accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this > email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the > author be requested. > >> On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:32 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG >> wrote: >> >> Hi Folks >> >> I have a Telstra Moblie Plan Small with my iPhone X >> >> If I decide it’s time to upgrade to the iPhone 14 AND I want to stay >> with Telstra (for remote area coverage) - do you have any advice >> please? >> >> My current Telstra plan gives me 40 GB. I rarely use 10 GB. >> >> Should I stay on my current Telstra Moblie Plan Small @ $55 per month? >> >> Or Shift to a new Telstra Upfront Mobile Plan Basic @ $58 with 40 GB >> and capped speed 250Mbps 4G and 5G? >> >> Or JB HiFi Telstra plan 60 GB @ $49, 3G, 4G/4GX BUT not 5G? >> >> OR - do you recommend any other plan with Telstra as the carrier? >> >> [1]https://www.whistleout.com.au/ doesn’t seem to list anything with >> Telstra carrier AND 5G under $68 >> >> Many thanks for your advice >> >> Blitto >> [cid:3320202049_5684508] >> Rod Blitvich - Amy & Sam’s Dad >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >>[2]rb...@iinet.net.au >> >> References >> >> 1. https://www.whistleout.com.au/ >> 2. x-msg://329/rb...@iinet.net.au >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc
Hi Rod You may find some of the others that use the Telstra network - still give good coverage but at a cheaper price - This link has some good info as well - https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-network There were a few on this link around the $30-$40 plan still on Telstra with 5G https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-Telstra-network-MVNO-plans (Eg Made had soul ate 5G, 60GB data for $40 pm.) I’ve had a few clients use other carries but still on the Telstra network and been happy with them. Hope that helps. Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry p : 0414 795 960 e : w : <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. > On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:32 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG > wrote: > > Hi Folks > > I have a Telstra Moblie Plan Small with my iPhone X > > If I decide it’s time to upgrade to the iPhone 14 AND I want to stay > with Telstra (for remote area coverage) - do you have any advice > please? > > My current Telstra plan gives me 40 GB. I rarely use 10 GB. > > Should I stay on my current Telstra Moblie Plan Small @ $55 per month? > > Or Shift to a new Telstra Upfront Mobile Plan Basic @ $58 with 40 GB > and capped speed 250Mbps 4G and 5G? > > Or JB HiFi Telstra plan 60 GB @ $49, 3G, 4G/4GX BUT not 5G? > > OR - do you recommend any other plan with Telstra as the carrier? > > [1]https://www.whistleout.com.au/ doesn’t seem to list anything with > Telstra carrier AND 5G under $68 > > Many thanks for your advice > > Blitto > [cid:3320202049_5684508] > Rod Blitvich - Amy & Sam’s Dad > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > [2]rb...@iinet.net.au > > References > > 1. https://www.whistleout.com.au/ > 2. x-msg://329/rb...@iinet.net.au > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
[WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc
Hi Folks I have a Telstra Moblie Plan Small with my iPhone X If I decide it’s time to upgrade to the iPhone 14 AND I want to stay with Telstra (for remote area coverage) - do you have any advice please? My current Telstra plan gives me 40 GB. I rarely use 10 GB. Should I stay on my current Telstra Moblie Plan Small @ $55 per month? Or Shift to a new Telstra Upfront Mobile Plan Basic @ $58 with 40 GB and capped speed 250Mbps 4G and 5G? Or JB HiFi Telstra plan 60 GB @ $49, 3G, 4G/4GX BUT not 5G? OR - do you recommend any other plan with Telstra as the carrier? https://www.whistleout.com.au/ <https://www.whistleout.com.au/> doesn’t seem to list anything with Telstra carrier AND 5G under $68 Many thanks for your advice Blitto Rod Blitvich - Amy & Sam’s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . rb...@iinet.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Telstra
Why the Telstra Share Price Sank This Week https://www.moneymorning.com.au/20170217/telstra-share-price-sank-asxu.html Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 > On 17 Mar 2017, at 4:08 pm, Alan Fenton <alc...@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Hello. > I have my 5 lost email accounts working again after Telstra finally > reactivated them. > Now my email account tied to my new Hot spot modem is a subscription. ( I > will have to pay $79 per year) > I am now looking into the subscription. > Gmail looks to be a good alternative. > > Has anyone noticed Telstra share price going down? I wonder why? > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Telstra
Hello. I have my 5 lost email accounts working again after Telstra finally reactivated them. Now my email account tied to my new Hot spot modem is a subscription. ( I will have to pay $79 per year) I am now looking into the subscription. Gmail looks to be a good alternative. Has anyone noticed Telstra share price going down? I wonder why? -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Telstra
Hi Alan, Your options are endless - depending on what you actually want. Rob & Ronni are coming from the approach of "let's see if we can fix the problem" ie look at how you are managing your Telsta email accounts to see if the problem can be fixed. As we all know, Ronni is a whiz at ferreting out all sorts of problems - so work with her if you want to do this. However your response suggests that you have no real interest in addressing the Telstra problem and just want to take Telstra out of the equation and set-up some alternative email accounts? I'm sure many of us can sympathise with the difficulties of dealing with Telstra - They lost my internet account many ears ago (to Internode) and I recently moved my landline to Internode also. However I still have my mobile with Telstra (for the country coverage) and must admit that, in more recent dealings, their service seems much improved. I also have a legacy Bigpond email account, which continues to work without problems, and which Telstra keeps alive, free of charge - which, I think, is pretty generous of them. If you want/need to move away from Telstra and find a new mail provider - here are a few things you might want to consider: 1. Your ISP will, no doubt, offer you a number of email accounts as part of your internet package - of course if your ISP is Telstra this is no help unless you also want to change ISP. 2. Email accounts with your ISP are generally lost if/when you change ISP providers - this tends to keep many people "locked in" to their ISP to avoid the hassle of changing email addresses. 3. Free email accounts like Hotmail (very popular in the past) or Gmail (more popular now) have their own pros & cons - which Google will find plenty of opinion on! My observation is that if you are not paying for the product then you ARE the product - think why Google is worth billions of dollars! 4. One way of having a number of email accounts which are "yours" is to register your own domain and then set-up separate email accounts eg: > * a...@yourdomain.com > * m...@yourdomain.com > * m...@yourdomain.com 5. Using your own domain requires a certain amount of IT nous (though not that much!) and lets you use and change different ISPs without disruption to your email accounts. Several WAMUG members (including me) use this approach. At the end of the day there is no "best" solution - just one which meets your particular circumstances, needs and preferences. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 15/3/17 10:45 AM, Alan Fenton at alc...@bigpond.com wrote: > Hello, > The accounts are all Telstra. Telstra is at fault. I want to get an email > account that is not with Telstra or any other phone company. > So that is why I was suggested Gmail and Hotmail. > From Alan. > >> On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:38 am, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >> >> Who are your accounts with, and do they use IMAP or POP? Without this >> information Ronni won't be able to solve your problem.. :-) >> Rob >> >> >> On 15/3/17 10:16 am, Alan Fenton wrote: >>> Hello. >>> Telstra lost 5 email accounts Monday when I updated my mobile hotspot modem >>> and added to my Telstra account. >>> Tuesday night I got back 4 accounts. >>> Today rang telstra to get last account. Waiting for return call. >>> I have this problem when I update telstra hardware due I think to having >>> Bigpond and Telstra faulty links between my account. >>> A person at Telstra shop in Armadale suggested I get a Gmail or Hotmail >>> account. >>> Any suggestions? >>> From Alan. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Telstra
Hi Alan Yes having a Gmail account allows you to chose your provider. I do have a Bigpond email address but do not use it Graeme > On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:38 am, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > Who are your accounts with, and do they use IMAP or POP? Without this > information Ronni won't be able to solve your problem.. :-) > Rob > > > On 15/3/17 10:16 am, Alan Fenton wrote: >> Hello. >> Telstra lost 5 email accounts Monday when I updated my mobile hotspot modem >> and added to my Telstra account. >> Tuesday night I got back 4 accounts. >> Today rang telstra to get last account. Waiting for return call. >> I have this problem when I update telstra hardware due I think to having >> Bigpond and Telstra faulty links between my account. >> A person at Telstra shop in Armadale suggested I get a Gmail or Hotmail >> account. >> Any suggestions? >> From Alan. >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> Graeme Winters winters@gmail.com macOS Sierra 10.12 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Telstra
Hello. Thanks for the info but I was asking for suggestions for email accounts not with a phone company, such as Gmail and Hotmail so I can change phone companies and not lose my email account. From Alan. > On 15 Mar 2017, at 11:23 am, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: > > Hi Alan, > Check your mail account settings. > IMAP settings for Telstra Mail™ > IMAP is the recommended setting for Telstra Mail customers > > Account type > > Account type: IMAP > Incoming server details > > Incoming server address: imap.telstra.com <http://imap.telstra.com/> > Incoming server port: 993 > Encrypted connection: SSL > Outgoing server details > > Outgoing server address: smtp.telstra.com <http://smtp.telstra.com/> > Outgoing server port: 465 (recommended) or 587 > SMTP authentication: On > Encrypted connection: SSL/TLS on port 465 (recommended) or STARTTLS on port > 587 > Username & Password > > Enter your full email address (ending in ‘@bigpond.com’, ‘@bigpond.net.au’ or > ‘@telstra.com’) > Enter your Telstra email account password (case sensitive) > Other settings to check > > Ensure the checkbox is ticked for ‘Outgoing server requires authentication’. > > > https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/email/set-up/set-up-telstra-email-on-the-bigpond-platform-on-your-tablet-or-mobile > > <https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/email/set-up/set-up-telstra-email-on-the-bigpond-platform-on-your-tablet-or-mobile>> > > <https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/email/set-up/set-up-telstra-mail-on-mac-osx-10.10-and-above > > <https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/email/set-up/set-up-telstra-mail-on-mac-osx-10.10-and-above>> > > Cheers, > Ronni > > 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) > 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz > 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM > 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage > > macOS Sierra 10.12.3 > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Telstra
Hi Alan, Check your mail account settings. IMAP settings for Telstra Mail™ IMAP is the recommended setting for Telstra Mail customers Account type Account type: IMAP Incoming server details Incoming server address: imap.telstra.com Incoming server port: 993 Encrypted connection: SSL Outgoing server details Outgoing server address: smtp.telstra.com Outgoing server port: 465 (recommended) or 587 SMTP authentication: On Encrypted connection: SSL/TLS on port 465 (recommended) or STARTTLS on port 587 Username & Password Enter your full email address (ending in ‘@bigpond.com’, ‘@bigpond.net.au’ or ‘@telstra.com’) Enter your Telstra email account password (case sensitive) Other settings to check Ensure the checkbox is ticked for ‘Outgoing server requires authentication’. https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/email/set-up/set-up-telstra-email-on-the-bigpond-platform-on-your-tablet-or-mobile <https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/email/set-up/set-up-telstra-email-on-the-bigpond-platform-on-your-tablet-or-mobile>> <https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/email/set-up/set-up-telstra-mail-on-mac-osx-10.10-and-above <https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/email/set-up/set-up-telstra-mail-on-mac-osx-10.10-and-above>> Cheers, Ronni 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage macOS Sierra 10.12.3 > On 15 Mar 2017, at 11:11 am, Alan Fenton <alc...@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Hello. > All show in Host Name. imap.telstra.com <http://imap.telstra.com/>. > > From Alan. > > > > > >> On 15 Mar 2017, at 11:00 am, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com >> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote: >> >> Hello Alan, >> >> As Rob has mentioned -- >> Are all the email accounts IMAP or POP? >> Telstra Mail recommends using IMAP >> >> Regards, >> Ronni >> >>> On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:45 am, Alan Fenton <alc...@bigpond.com >>> <mailto:alc...@bigpond.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> The accounts are all Telstra. Telstra is at fault. I want to get an email >>> account that is not with Telstra or any other phone company. >>> So that is why I was suggested Gmail and Hotmail. >>> From Alan. >>> >>>> On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:38 am, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au >>>> <mailto:r.phill...@iinet.net.au>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Who are your accounts with, and do they use IMAP or POP? Without this >>>> information Ronni won't be able to solve your problem.. :-) >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> On 15/3/17 10:16 am, Alan Fenton wrote: >>>>> Hello. >>>>> Telstra lost 5 email accounts Monday when I updated my mobile hotspot >>>>> modem and added to my Telstra account. >>>>> Tuesday night I got back 4 accounts. >>>>> Today rang telstra to get last account. Waiting for return call. >>>>> I have this problem when I update telstra hardware due I think to having >>>>> Bigpond and Telstra faulty links between my account. >>>>> A person at Telstra shop in Armadale suggested I get a Gmail or Hotmail >>>>> account. >>>>> Any suggestions? >>>>> From Alan. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Telstra
Hello. All show in Host Name. imap.telstra.com <http://imap.telstra.com/>. From Alan. > On 15 Mar 2017, at 11:00 am, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: > > Hello Alan, > > As Rob has mentioned -- > Are all the email accounts IMAP or POP? > Telstra Mail recommends using IMAP > > Regards, > Ronni > >> On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:45 am, Alan Fenton <alc...@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> The accounts are all Telstra. Telstra is at fault. I want to get an email >> account that is not with Telstra or any other phone company. >> So that is why I was suggested Gmail and Hotmail. >> From Alan. >> >>> On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:38 am, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >>> >>> Who are your accounts with, and do they use IMAP or POP? Without this >>> information Ronni won't be able to solve your problem.. :-) >>> Rob >>> >>> >>> On 15/3/17 10:16 am, Alan Fenton wrote: >>>> Hello. >>>> Telstra lost 5 email accounts Monday when I updated my mobile hotspot >>>> modem and added to my Telstra account. >>>> Tuesday night I got back 4 accounts. >>>> Today rang telstra to get last account. Waiting for return call. >>>> I have this problem when I update telstra hardware due I think to having >>>> Bigpond and Telstra faulty links between my account. >>>> A person at Telstra shop in Armadale suggested I get a Gmail or Hotmail >>>> account. >>>> Any suggestions? >>>> From Alan. >>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>> >>> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Telstra
Hello Alan, As Rob has mentioned -- Are all the email accounts IMAP or POP? Telstra Mail recommends using IMAP Regards, Ronni > On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:45 am, Alan Fenton <alc...@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Hello, > The accounts are all Telstra. Telstra is at fault. I want to get an email > account that is not with Telstra or any other phone company. > So that is why I was suggested Gmail and Hotmail. > From Alan. > >> On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:38 am, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >> >> Who are your accounts with, and do they use IMAP or POP? Without this >> information Ronni won't be able to solve your problem.. :-) >> Rob >> >> >> On 15/3/17 10:16 am, Alan Fenton wrote: >>> Hello. >>> Telstra lost 5 email accounts Monday when I updated my mobile hotspot modem >>> and added to my Telstra account. >>> Tuesday night I got back 4 accounts. >>> Today rang telstra to get last account. Waiting for return call. >>> I have this problem when I update telstra hardware due I think to having >>> Bigpond and Telstra faulty links between my account. >>> A person at Telstra shop in Armadale suggested I get a Gmail or Hotmail >>> account. >>> Any suggestions? >>> From Alan. >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Telstra
Hello, The accounts are all Telstra. Telstra is at fault. I want to get an email account that is not with Telstra or any other phone company. So that is why I was suggested Gmail and Hotmail. >From Alan. > On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:38 am, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > Who are your accounts with, and do they use IMAP or POP? Without this > information Ronni won't be able to solve your problem.. :-) > Rob > > > On 15/3/17 10:16 am, Alan Fenton wrote: >> Hello. >> Telstra lost 5 email accounts Monday when I updated my mobile hotspot modem >> and added to my Telstra account. >> Tuesday night I got back 4 accounts. >> Today rang telstra to get last account. Waiting for return call. >> I have this problem when I update telstra hardware due I think to having >> Bigpond and Telstra faulty links between my account. >> A person at Telstra shop in Armadale suggested I get a Gmail or Hotmail >> account. >> Any suggestions? >> From Alan. >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Telstra
Who are your accounts with, and do they use IMAP or POP? Without this information Ronni won't be able to solve your problem.. :-) Rob On 15/3/17 10:16 am, Alan Fenton wrote: Hello. Telstra lost 5 email accounts Monday when I updated my mobile hotspot modem and added to my Telstra account. Tuesday night I got back 4 accounts. Today rang telstra to get last account. Waiting for return call. I have this problem when I update telstra hardware due I think to having Bigpond and Telstra faulty links between my account. A person at Telstra shop in Armadale suggested I get a Gmail or Hotmail account. Any suggestions? From Alan. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Telstra
Hello. Telstra lost 5 email accounts Monday when I updated my mobile hotspot modem and added to my Telstra account. Tuesday night I got back 4 accounts. Today rang telstra to get last account. Waiting for return call. I have this problem when I update telstra hardware due I think to having Bigpond and Telstra faulty links between my account. A person at Telstra shop in Armadale suggested I get a Gmail or Hotmail account. Any suggestions? From Alan. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Printing problem with Telstra C6300BD Gateway Max Cable Modem
Hello Ronni, Thanks for the information and it could well be the problem, however the message I get from the Open Print Queue is: Printing - the printer is not responding. No mention of Filter Failed Yet in Options and Supplies, I can see all the levels of ink remaining, so the printer IS able to be viewed by the computer Console says: 31/10/2015 8:59:35.232 AM Safari[681]: Printing from application: com.apple.Safari, to printer: Generic PostScript Printer, with the advanced dialog. OSActivityID: 0x1f80 com.apple.message.result: success com.apple.message.signature: Advanced dialog com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.printing.printdialog.printdialogtype com.apple.message.signature2: com.apple.Safari com.apple.message.signature3: Generic PostScript Printer SenderMachUUID: A64D83D7-F48D-35BD-B9E8-0B8901DE58A6 As you see, I am using the Generic PostScript Printer driver that loads with the Add Printer box. Who makes the Generic Postscript Driver? Are Apple likely to provide an updated generic printer driver to go with 10.11, or maybe that is not really the problem as applied to me. It’s a Dell 3110CN printer, and they don’t support Macs with their drivers. The latest Dell driver I have tried is for a different model Dell printer and dated December 2014. Same result. Computer can apparently connect correctly, but when it comes to the printer receiving information, that’s when the problem occurs. I’m not able to put more time into testing this today, as I am also rebuilding the MacPro1,1 to be running El Capitan. I had early success, but after updating an Invidia graphics driver it’s all gone to pot….. :-( Meaning it’s stuck on the start up screen and due to the different boot.efi file I had to install to run El Capitan, Safe mode simply creates a black screen of text. But that’s another issue, and I’m not seeking support for that one - it’s my own little challenge. Re the printer, my plan is to run the C6300BD Gateway Max cable modem/router in Bridge mode and get my Airport Extreme to distribute IP addresses and run the printer. This worked in the past, so I will see how it goes - but later tomorrow. Thanks again Tim > On 30 Oct 2015, at 10:54 AM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > Do you get any error message 'Filter failed’ when you try to print? > If so the message will be due to plugins used by the driver not being > compatible with the new security features in El Capitan. > > I would suspect its possibly more to do with El Capitan’s increased security: > > https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/mac/releasenotes/MacOSX/WhatsNewInOSX/Articles/MacOSX10_11.html > > <https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/mac/releasenotes/MacOSX/WhatsNewInOSX/Articles/MacOSX10_11.html>> > > "Lots of vendors have not updated their drivers, and lots of peripherals are > not working because of this. > Since Apple doesn't recommend turning off the "rootless" feature and won't > provide a workaround, vendors need to update their drivers.” > > Cheers, > Ronni > > 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) > 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz > 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM > 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage > > OS X El Capitan 10.11 > > >> On 29 Oct 2015, at 10:05 PM, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au >> <mailto:t...@peoplehelp.com.au>> wrote: >> >> Good evening, >> >> I have been supplied with a new cable modem to use with my Telstra cable >> (non NBN) and upgraded to a high speed connection free for three months. I’m >> very happy the performance of the C6300BD Gateway Max cable modem/router in >> general and are routinely getting speeds on wifi of 110mbps download all >> over the house. Seems a stronger signal than the Apple Airport Extreme I >> have been using, but that’s by the by. Ethernet connection speeds are >> around 57mbps, measured with Speedtest.net <http://speedtest.net/> >> >> The C6300BD Gateway Max has been working well but I cannot print via >> ethernet cable to my network capable Dell 3110cn Colour Laser Printer. >> The printer drivers from both my MacPro 1,1 running 10.7.5 and the Mac Mini >> running 10.11.1 can both ‘see’ the printer and report on it’s status - ink >> levels etc. What I cannot do from the Mac Mini 10.11.1 is print. Before >> installing the C6300BD Gateway Max the IP addresses were served by an Apple >> Airport Extreme and the printer worked, I think via the USB port on the >> Airport. If I recall it also worked via the ethernet connection but I used >> the USB as I needed the ethernet connection for another machine. >> >> To add to the mystery of the lack of printing, this evening I found pri
Printing problem with Telstra C6300BD Gateway Max Cable Modem
Good evening, I have been supplied with a new cable modem to use with my Telstra cable (non NBN) and upgraded to a high speed connection free for three months. I’m very happy the performance of the C6300BD Gateway Max cable modem/router in general and are routinely getting speeds on wifi of 110mbps download all over the house. Seems a stronger signal than the Apple Airport Extreme I have been using, but that’s by the by. Ethernet connection speeds are around 57mbps, measured with Speedtest.net The C6300BD Gateway Max has been working well but I cannot print via ethernet cable to my network capable Dell 3110cn Colour Laser Printer. The printer drivers from both my MacPro 1,1 running 10.7.5 and the Mac Mini running 10.11.1 can both ‘see’ the printer and report on it’s status - ink levels etc. What I cannot do from the Mac Mini 10.11.1 is print. Before installing the C6300BD Gateway Max the IP addresses were served by an Apple Airport Extreme and the printer worked, I think via the USB port on the Airport. If I recall it also worked via the ethernet connection but I used the USB as I needed the ethernet connection for another machine. To add to the mystery of the lack of printing, this evening I found printing: - Mac Pro 1,1 running OSX 10.7.5 via ethernet to C6300BD Gateway Max to Dell 3110cn printer via ethernet WOULD print - Mac Mini running OSX 10.11.1 via ethernet to C6300BD Gateway Max to Dell 3110cn printer via ethernet WOULD NOT print - Mac Mini OSX 10.11.1 via ethernet to C6300BD Gateway Max via ethernet to Dell 3110cn printer using the network shared printer driver on the MacPro1,1 running OSX10.7.5 WOULD print. - Mac Mini running OSX 10.11.1 to Dell 3110cn printer via USB, WOULD print. I’m thinking its something about the printer driver on OSX 10.11.1 not being compatible with the C6300BD Gateway Max, or vice versa - but I may be wrong. There are plenty of comments on Telstra’s Crowd Support about similar problems with printing and the incapacity of this modem to set a fixed IP address, which might be needed for the printer and therefore part of the problem. However before I set the C6300BD Gateway Max to bridge mode, and set the Apple Airport Extreme to distribute IP addresses, has any WAMUG users come across a similar problem and found a solution? Cheers Tim -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Printing problem with Telstra C6300BD Gateway Max Cable Modem
Hi Tim, Do you get any error message 'Filter failed’ when you try to print? If so the message will be due to plugins used by the driver not being compatible with the new security features in El Capitan. I would suspect its possibly more to do with El Capitan’s increased security: https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/mac/releasenotes/MacOSX/WhatsNewInOSX/Articles/MacOSX10_11.html <https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/mac/releasenotes/MacOSX/WhatsNewInOSX/Articles/MacOSX10_11.html>> "Lots of vendors have not updated their drivers, and lots of peripherals are not working because of this. Since Apple doesn't recommend turning off the "rootless" feature and won't provide a workaround, vendors need to update their drivers.” Cheers, Ronni 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage OS X El Capitan 10.11 > On 29 Oct 2015, at 10:05 PM, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: > > Good evening, > > I have been supplied with a new cable modem to use with my Telstra cable (non > NBN) and upgraded to a high speed connection free for three months. I’m very > happy the performance of the C6300BD Gateway Max cable modem/router in > general and are routinely getting speeds on wifi of 110mbps download all over > the house. Seems a stronger signal than the Apple Airport Extreme I have been > using, but that’s by the by. Ethernet connection speeds are around 57mbps, > measured with Speedtest.net > > The C6300BD Gateway Max has been working well but I cannot print via ethernet > cable to my network capable Dell 3110cn Colour Laser Printer. > The printer drivers from both my MacPro 1,1 running 10.7.5 and the Mac Mini > running 10.11.1 can both ‘see’ the printer and report on it’s status - ink > levels etc. What I cannot do from the Mac Mini 10.11.1 is print. Before > installing the C6300BD Gateway Max the IP addresses were served by an Apple > Airport Extreme and the printer worked, I think via the USB port on the > Airport. If I recall it also worked via the ethernet connection but I used > the USB as I needed the ethernet connection for another machine. > > To add to the mystery of the lack of printing, this evening I found printing: > - Mac Pro 1,1 running OSX 10.7.5 via ethernet to C6300BD Gateway Max to Dell > 3110cn printer via ethernet WOULD print > - Mac Mini running OSX 10.11.1 via ethernet to C6300BD Gateway Max to Dell > 3110cn printer via ethernet WOULD NOT print > - Mac Mini OSX 10.11.1 via ethernet to C6300BD Gateway Max via ethernet to > Dell 3110cn printer using the network shared printer driver on the MacPro1,1 > running OSX10.7.5 WOULD print. > - Mac Mini running OSX 10.11.1 to Dell 3110cn printer via USB, WOULD print. > > I’m thinking its something about the printer driver on OSX 10.11.1 not being > compatible with the C6300BD Gateway Max, or vice versa - but I may be wrong. > > There are plenty of comments on Telstra’s Crowd Support about similar > problems with printing and the incapacity of this modem to set a fixed IP > address, which might be needed for the printer and therefore part of the > problem. > > However before I set the C6300BD Gateway Max to bridge mode, and set the > Apple Airport Extreme to distribute IP addresses, has any WAMUG users come > across a similar problem and found a solution? > > Cheers > > Tim -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Telstra
Thanks Tim Sounds good Sent from my iPad > On 23 Oct 2015, at 9:15 PM, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: > > John I've had Telstra cable for several years. I moved from ADSL because the > copper wires in my street were an ongoing problem in winter with the moisture > causing problems. I had foxtel instal cable years ago for free when they were > rolling it out, then stopped using it not long after. > > Cable internet has been great. Recently Telstra gave me, unsolicited, a new > Gateway Max modem/router and a three month free upgrade to their fast > service. I used to pay for 100gb, which they upgraded to 200gb, then 500gb at > no extra cost. Neat. > > The new router and faster service is very nice. My first speedtest.net result > was 110mbps download and 2.4mbps upload, up from the 30/1 I was used to. By > the way, this was measured via wifi on my iPad. Cat5 Ethernet tends to be > slower, -- around 70mbps. > > http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/1412793787 > > I recommend it. Speed doesn't vary much due to down the road usage. > > Tim > > Sent from Tim's Retina iPad 2 > >> On 23 Oct 2015, at 8:51 PM, John Daniels <john...@me.com> wrote: >> >> I know there have been many discussions about Telstra service over the years >> but I'm interested to know if they have improved. >> I'm with Westnet ADSL 2 but my speeds vary from 0.5Mb to a max of 2Mb >> sometimes being so slow it's frustrating. >> >> Telstra are offering cable connection 30Mb and 25G data signing on for >> 2years. Same price within $2 of Westnet. >> >> Can anyone tell me how cable really compares with my ADSL2 >> >> Sent from my iPad >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Telstra
I know there have been many discussions about Telstra service over the years but I'm interested to know if they have improved. I'm with Westnet ADSL 2 but my speeds vary from 0.5Mb to a max of 2Mb sometimes being so slow it's frustrating. Telstra are offering cable connection 30Mb and 25G data signing on for 2years. Same price within $2 of Westnet. Can anyone tell me how cable really compares with my ADSL2 Sent from my iPad -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Telstra
First find out when the NBN is coming to you. They might be locking you into something inferior once the NBN arrives. Cheers Rob On 23/10/2015 8:51 pm, John Daniels wrote: I know there have been many discussions about Telstra service over the years but I'm interested to know if they have improved. I'm with Westnet ADSL 2 but my speeds vary from 0.5Mb to a max of 2Mb sometimes being so slow it's frustrating. Telstra are offering cable connection 30Mb and 25G data signing on for 2years. Same price within $2 of Westnet. Can anyone tell me how cable really compares with my ADSL2 Sent from my iPad -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Telstra
Hi Rob NBN 2017 connecting to cable. By that time a contract with Telstra would be finished. Sent from my iPad > On 23 Oct 2015, at 8:59 PM, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > First find out when the NBN is coming to you. They might be locking you into > something inferior once the NBN arrives. > > Cheers > Rob > >> On 23/10/2015 8:51 pm, John Daniels wrote: >> I know there have been many discussions about Telstra service over the years >> but I'm interested to know if they have improved. >> I'm with Westnet ADSL 2 but my speeds vary from 0.5Mb to a max of 2Mb >> sometimes being so slow it's frustrating. >> >> Telstra are offering cable connection 30Mb and 25G data signing on for >> 2years. Same price within $2 of Westnet. >> >> Can anyone tell me how cable really compares with my ADSL2 >> >> Sent from my iPad >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Telstra
John I've had Telstra cable for several years. I moved from ADSL because the copper wires in my street were an ongoing problem in winter with the moisture causing problems. I had foxtel instal cable years ago for free when they were rolling it out, then stopped using it not long after. Cable internet has been great. Recently Telstra gave me, unsolicited, a new Gateway Max modem/router and a three month free upgrade to their fast service. I used to pay for 100gb, which they upgraded to 200gb, then 500gb at no extra cost. Neat. The new router and faster service is very nice. My first speedtest.net result was 110mbps download and 2.4mbps upload, up from the 30/1 I was used to. By the way, this was measured via wifi on my iPad. Cat5 Ethernet tends to be slower, -- around 70mbps. http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/1412793787 I recommend it. Speed doesn't vary much due to down the road usage. Tim Sent from Tim's Retina iPad 2 > On 23 Oct 2015, at 8:51 PM, John Daniels <john...@me.com> wrote: > > I know there have been many discussions about Telstra service over the years > but I'm interested to know if they have improved. > I'm with Westnet ADSL 2 but my speeds vary from 0.5Mb to a max of 2Mb > sometimes being so slow it's frustrating. > > Telstra are offering cable connection 30Mb and 25G data signing on for > 2years. Same price within $2 of Westnet. > > Can anyone tell me how cable really compares with my ADSL2 > > Sent from my iPad > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
iPhone 5S - iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus - Are NOT Telstra ‘Blue Tick’ Rated!
Hello Telstra customers, I have always purchased my iPhones outright but use Telstra for better coverage travelling into country areas. I have found this information a little daunting and hard to believe 'why'. I have an iPhone 6 Plus arriving soon. I already have my Telstra Nano-SIM card ready. iPhone 5S - iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus - Are NOT Telstra ‘Blue Tick’ Rated When you choose a ‘Blue Tick’ mobile, you can be sure that whether you’re in a regional area, country town or off the beaten track, you’ll experience the best possible coverage on the network without equal. It’s just another way we’re shaping our world around you, wherever you might live. http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/#filter/brand/Apple/os/ios/features/blueTick,is4gx/plan/s/sort/featured http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/#filter/brand/Apple/os/ios/features/blueTick,is4gx/plan/s/sort/featured —— The current Apple models we have in Blue Tick are the iPhone 4s or the 5c. At this time it is confirmed that the new iPhone 6 range is not ‘Blue tick’ rated. In terms of if and when this will change, we have not been advised at this stage and (at this stage) I cannot give you any timeframe as to when they may be. — Both the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus have been tested and neither gained the Blue Tick rating. The rating is based on actual network performance, not manufacturer specifications. Ashley Moderator 24x7 Digital Customer Care Team http://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/iPhone-6-iPhone-6-Plus/Blue-tick-and-iPhone-6-6-Plus/td-p/358059 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9.5 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: iPhone 5S - iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus - Are NOT Telstra ‘Blue Tick’ Rated!
Ouch! Thank you Ronni for the micro sim chip heads-up. I have a 6plus on order too. So, you can have a sim chip waiting for when your phone arrives? Current phone will continue to work until the new phone is activated? Side note: Mail just froze while typing this. Brian Sent from my iPhone5 iOS 8 On 28 Sep 2014, at 09:34, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hello Telstra customers, I have always purchased my iPhones outright but use Telstra for better coverage travelling into country areas. I have found this information a little daunting and hard to believe 'why'. I have an iPhone 6 Plus arriving soon. I already have my Telstra Nano-SIM card ready. iPhone 5S - iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus - Are NOT Telstra ‘Blue Tick’ Rated When you choose a ‘Blue Tick’ mobile, you can be sure that whether you’re in a regional area, country town or off the beaten track, you’ll experience the best possible coverage on the network without equal. It’s just another way we’re shaping our world around you, wherever you might live. http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/#filter/brand/Apple/os/ios/features/blueTick,is4gx/plan/s/sort/featured http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/#filter/brand/Apple/os/ios/features/blueTick,is4gx/plan/s/sort/featured —— The current Apple models we have in Blue Tick are the iPhone 4s or the 5c. At this time it is confirmed that the new iPhone 6 range is not ‘Blue tick’ rated. In terms of if and when this will change, we have not been advised at this stage and (at this stage) I cannot give you any timeframe as to when they may be. — Both the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus have been tested and neither gained the Blue Tick rating. The rating is based on actual network performance, not manufacturer specifications. Ashley Moderator 24x7 Digital Customer Care Team http://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/iPhone-6-iPhone-6-Plus/Blue-tick-and-iPhone-6-6-Plus/td-p/358059 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9.5 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: iPhone 5S - iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus - Are NOT Telstra ‘Blue Tick’ Rated!
Sometimes I found that my iPhone 5 worked better in remote areas if 4g was switched off. The 4s is 3G only. I wonder if this is a factor, though doesn't explain the 5c rating. Sent from my iPhone On 28 Sep 2014, at 9:34 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hello Telstra customers, I have always purchased my iPhones outright but use Telstra for better coverage travelling into country areas. I have found this information a little daunting and hard to believe 'why'. I have an iPhone 6 Plus arriving soon. I already have my Telstra Nano-SIM card ready. iPhone 5S - iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus - Are NOT Telstra ‘Blue Tick’ Rated When you choose a ‘Blue Tick’ mobile, you can be sure that whether you’re in a regional area, country town or off the beaten track, you’ll experience the best possible coverage on the network without equal. It’s just another way we’re shaping our world around you, wherever you might live. http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/#filter/brand/Apple/os/ios/features/blueTick,is4gx/plan/s/sort/featured http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/#filter/brand/Apple/os/ios/features/blueTick,is4gx/plan/s/sort/featured —— The current Apple models we have in Blue Tick are the iPhone 4s or the 5c. At this time it is confirmed that the new iPhone 6 range is not ‘Blue tick’ rated. In terms of if and when this will change, we have not been advised at this stage and (at this stage) I cannot give you any timeframe as to when they may be. — Both the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus have been tested and neither gained the Blue Tick rating. The rating is based on actual network performance, not manufacturer specifications. Ashley Moderator 24x7 Digital Customer Care Team http://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/iPhone-6-iPhone-6-Plus/Blue-tick-and-iPhone-6-6-Plus/td-p/358059 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9.5 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: iPhone 5S - iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus - Are NOT Telstra ‘Blue Tick’ Rated!
Yes Brian, your current micro-SIM card will work until the new Nano-SIM card is activated by Telstra. Just pop into a Telstra shop and ask for a non-activated Nano-SIM card as you are waiting delivery of a new unlocked iPhone 6 Plus. When you receive the new iPhone either phone Telstra to Activate 'move your number over' to your new card and Deactivate your old micro-SIM card. Or - you could pop into the Telstra shop again (when you have the new iPhone 6+) and get them to do it there 'on the spot' for you. Note: once the new Nano-SIM card is activated you can no longer use your old iPhone. Remember to Backup your old iPhone in iTunes before you set up your new iPhone 6 Plus. Side note: Mail just froze while typing this. Reset of your iPhone. 1. Press and hold the Sleep/Wake button and the Home button at the same time for at least 10 seconds. 2. Ignore the Red slider that appears on the screen and keep holding both buttons until the Apple logo appears. That's it, the iPhone will restart and hopefully your problem is cured. This Reset completely powers down your iPhone and also clears the RAM and cache. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 28 Sep 2014, at 11:14 am, Brian Risbey risb...@bigpond.com wrote: Ouch! Thank you Ronni for the micro sim chip heads-up. I have a 6plus on order too. So, you can have a sim chip waiting for when your phone arrives? Current phone will continue to work until the new phone is activated? Side note: Mail just froze while typing this. Brian Sent from my iPhone5 iOS 8 On 28 Sep 2014, at 09:34, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hello Telstra customers, I have always purchased my iPhones outright but use Telstra for better coverage travelling into country areas. I have found this information a little daunting and hard to believe 'why'. I have an iPhone 6 Plus arriving soon. I already have my Telstra Nano-SIM card ready. iPhone 5S - iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus - Are NOT Telstra ‘Blue Tick’ Rated When you choose a ‘Blue Tick’ mobile, you can be sure that whether you’re in a regional area, country town or off the beaten track, you’ll experience the best possible coverage on the network without equal. It’s just another way we’re shaping our world around you, wherever you might live. http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/#filter/brand/Apple/os/ios/features/blueTick,is4gx/plan/s/sort/featured http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/#filter/brand/Apple/os/ios/features/blueTick,is4gx/plan/s/sort/featured —— The current Apple models we have in Blue Tick are the iPhone 4s or the 5c. At this time it is confirmed that the new iPhone 6 range is not ‘Blue tick’ rated. In terms of if and when this will change, we have not been advised at this stage and (at this stage) I cannot give you any timeframe as to when they may be. — Both the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus have been tested and neither gained the Blue Tick rating. The rating is based on actual network performance, not manufacturer specifications. Ashley Moderator 24x7 Digital Customer Care Team http://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/iPhone-6-iPhone-6-Plus/Blue-tick-and-iPhone-6-6-Plus/td-p/358059 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9.5 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: iPhone 5S - iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus - Are NOT Telstra ‘Blue Tick’ Rated!
Hi Susan, Telstra's 4G Network is available in all the capital CBD's, many suburban areas and in over 300 regional towns across Australia. If you happen to go outside a 4G area, you'll automatically switch to Telstra's fastest available 3G speeds. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 28 Sep 2014, at 11:15 am, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@mac.com wrote: Sometimes I found that my iPhone 5 worked better in remote areas if 4g was switched off. The 4s is 3G only. I wonder if this is a factor, though doesn't explain the 5c rating. Sent from my iPhone On 28 Sep 2014, at 9:34 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hello Telstra customers, I have always purchased my iPhones outright but use Telstra for better coverage travelling into country areas. I have found this information a little daunting and hard to believe 'why'. I have an iPhone 6 Plus arriving soon. I already have my Telstra Nano-SIM card ready. iPhone 5S - iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus - Are NOT Telstra ‘Blue Tick’ Rated When you choose a ‘Blue Tick’ mobile, you can be sure that whether you’re in a regional area, country town or off the beaten track, you’ll experience the best possible coverage on the network without equal. It’s just another way we’re shaping our world around you, wherever you might live. http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/#filter/brand/Apple/os/ios/features/blueTick,is4gx/plan/s/sort/featured http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/#filter/brand/Apple/os/ios/features/blueTick,is4gx/plan/s/sort/featured —— The current Apple models we have in Blue Tick are the iPhone 4s or the 5c. At this time it is confirmed that the new iPhone 6 range is not ‘Blue tick’ rated. In terms of if and when this will change, we have not been advised at this stage and (at this stage) I cannot give you any timeframe as to when they may be. — Both the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus have been tested and neither gained the Blue Tick rating. The rating is based on actual network performance, not manufacturer specifications. Ashley Moderator 24x7 Digital Customer Care Team http://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/iPhone-6-iPhone-6-Plus/Blue-tick-and-iPhone-6-6-Plus/td-p/358059 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9.5 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: iPhone 5S - iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus - Are NOT Telstra ‘Blue Tick’ Rated!
Sorry I forgot to add... The iPhone 4S is 'Blue Tick' because the dual antenna design intelligently switches antennas if one gets attenuated. 'Blue Tick' phones do not assist with high traffic areas. They only assist users in low coverage areas. Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 28 Sep 2014, at 12:19 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Susan, Telstra's 4G Network is available in all the capital CBD's, many suburban areas and in over 300 regional towns across Australia. If you happen to go outside a 4G area, you'll automatically switch to Telstra's fastest available 3G speeds. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 28 Sep 2014, at 11:15 am, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@mac.com wrote: Sometimes I found that my iPhone 5 worked better in remote areas if 4g was switched off. The 4s is 3G only. I wonder if this is a factor, though doesn't explain the 5c rating. Sent from my iPhone On 28 Sep 2014, at 9:34 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hello Telstra customers, I have always purchased my iPhones outright but use Telstra for better coverage travelling into country areas. I have found this information a little daunting and hard to believe 'why'. I have an iPhone 6 Plus arriving soon. I already have my Telstra Nano-SIM card ready. iPhone 5S - iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus - Are NOT Telstra ‘Blue Tick’ Rated When you choose a ‘Blue Tick’ mobile, you can be sure that whether you’re in a regional area, country town or off the beaten track, you’ll experience the best possible coverage on the network without equal. It’s just another way we’re shaping our world around you, wherever you might live. http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/#filter/brand/Apple/os/ios/features/blueTick,is4gx/plan/s/sort/featured http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/#filter/brand/Apple/os/ios/features/blueTick,is4gx/plan/s/sort/featured —— The current Apple models we have in Blue Tick are the iPhone 4s or the 5c. At this time it is confirmed that the new iPhone 6 range is not ‘Blue tick’ rated. In terms of if and when this will change, we have not been advised at this stage and (at this stage) I cannot give you any timeframe as to when they may be. — Both the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus have been tested and neither gained the Blue Tick rating. The rating is based on actual network performance, not manufacturer specifications. Ashley Moderator 24x7 Digital Customer Care Team http://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/iPhone-6-iPhone-6-Plus/Blue-tick-and-iPhone-6-6-Plus/td-p/358059 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9.5 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: iPhone 5S - iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus - Are NOT Telstra ‘Blue Tick’ Rated!
Thank you Ronni, For the reset tip! My iPhone does get a thorough workout, love this predictive text! Brian Sent from my iPhone5 iOS 8 On 28 Sep 2014, at 11:45, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Yes Brian, your current micro-SIM card will work until the new Nano-SIM card is activated by Telstra. Just pop into a Telstra shop and ask for a non-activated Nano-SIM card as you are waiting delivery of a new unlocked iPhone 6 Plus. When you receive the new iPhone either phone Telstra to Activate 'move your number over' to your new card and Deactivate your old micro-SIM card. Or - you could pop into the Telstra shop again (when you have the new iPhone 6+) and get them to do it there 'on the spot' for you. Note: once the new Nano-SIM card is activated you can no longer use your old iPhone. Remember to Backup your old iPhone in iTunes before you set up your new iPhone 6 Plus. Side note: Mail just froze while typing this. Reset of your iPhone. 1. Press and hold the Sleep/Wake button and the Home button at the same time for at least 10 seconds. 2. Ignore the Red slider that appears on the screen and keep holding both buttons until the Apple logo appears. That's it, the iPhone will restart and hopefully your problem is cured. This Reset completely powers down your iPhone and also clears the RAM and cache. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 28 Sep 2014, at 11:14 am, Brian Risbey risb...@bigpond.com wrote: Ouch! Thank you Ronni for the micro sim chip heads-up. I have a 6plus on order too. So, you can have a sim chip waiting for when your phone arrives? Current phone will continue to work until the new phone is activated? Side note: Mail just froze while typing this. Brian Sent from my iPhone5 iOS 8 On 28 Sep 2014, at 09:34, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hello Telstra customers, I have always purchased my iPhones outright but use Telstra for better coverage travelling into country areas. I have found this information a little daunting and hard to believe 'why'. I have an iPhone 6 Plus arriving soon. I already have my Telstra Nano-SIM card ready. iPhone 5S - iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus - Are NOT Telstra ‘Blue Tick’ Rated When you choose a ‘Blue Tick’ mobile, you can be sure that whether you’re in a regional area, country town or off the beaten track, you’ll experience the best possible coverage on the network without equal. It’s just another way we’re shaping our world around you, wherever you might live. http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/#filter/brand/Apple/os/ios/features/blueTick,is4gx/plan/s/sort/featured http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/#filter/brand/Apple/os/ios/features/blueTick,is4gx/plan/s/sort/featured —— The current Apple models we have in Blue Tick are the iPhone 4s or the 5c. At this time it is confirmed that the new iPhone 6 range is not ‘Blue tick’ rated. In terms of if and when this will change, we have not been advised at this stage and (at this stage) I cannot give you any timeframe as to when they may be. — Both the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus have been tested and neither gained the Blue Tick rating. The rating is based on actual network performance, not manufacturer specifications. Ashley Moderator 24x7 Digital Customer Care Team http://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/iPhone-6-iPhone-6-Plus/Blue-tick-and-iPhone-6-6-Plus/td-p/358059 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9.5 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: iPhone 6, Telstra plan breakdown thinking and my ramblings,….. a follow up thought,…..
Hi Rod (and others) Just had another thought with this too (trigged by talking to a client last night),…. And this may be of interest to others as well. If looking at the Telstra network, you can also look at some of the other providers that still sell Telstra network, but a bit cheaper on plans. I've had a few clients use this and find them pretty good. And again, not being on contact you can always jump back. (but if you're buying the phone on plan,…may pay to check it first before committing to a new phone outright). One other thing,..they generally use the 3G network for data not the 4G network, so browsing can be a little slower…(of course this can all be dependant on waiting for things anyway,..lol. a few seconds more for people is worth it for a cheaper cost). So just thought I'd throw this in to the mix as well,….as an after thought…..lol https://www.aldimobile.com.au http://www.boost.com.au/rates.aspx http://www.cmobile.com.au (Blue plans are Telstra, Red plans are Vodaphone). I haven't used any of them, so can't really comment on their service etc, and I'm still happy to stick with Telstra,…had forgotten about these others actually,…but thought might post it anyway. Enjoy! Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 6 --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 21/09/2014, at 8:01 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Daniel Don't ever apologise for rambling as you always share valuable knowledge. Thanks for that. I have done some sums too and in my scenario, unless I have missed something, the numbers work differently. A few provisos: I must stay with Telstra because of their coverage (particularly noticeable when out of the city on camping trips). I have very low data and call requirements. I don't have a problem sticking with one phone for 2 years. So: Phone with Plan:Telstra 64GB iPhone 6 on Small plan $550 calls 1GB data Minimum total cost is $1968 over 24 months. Purchase Own Phone: Telstra BYOM plan $550 calls 500mb data $45/month, $1080 in 24 months PLUS cost of Phone $999 = $2079 Cheers Rod - Original Message - From: wamug@wamug.org.au To: wamug@wamug.org.au Cc: Sent: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:19:17 +0800 Subject: Re: iPhone 6, Telstra plan breakdown thinking and my ramblings,….. Hi Rod Apologies for the long post,…but hopefully it all follows and you can get the info from it,…..(I have a habit now of not re-reading a post,…just sending it,…lol). (I changed the subject line slightly as well). Not necessarily….it's kind of a yes and no and maybe answer I'm afraid. And every person/plan is different. But I'll give you my take on my plan and situation,……seeing as it relates to me. A few years back when I bought iPhones (4s) for myself and Ronni we did some calculations. (well we spoke on length about it) and we worked out the best plans for both of us. I went with a $79 BYOM plan (bring your own mobile). The reason being it was cheaper per month by about $20-$30 and at that time only on a 12month contract versus the 24 month contract. So for that plan I got $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB data. (I went with Telstra due to the Vodafone mess they had at the time and the better Telstra coverage I needed for moving around Perth area and hills a lot,..as well as down South etc) The current plan at the time where they gave you a free phone was about $99 or $109 for the same value. So when I looked at it, it was about $240-360 cheaper per year to buy the phone outright and then sign up for a BYOM plan. (and obviously double that if I looked at being locked in to a 2 year contract plan. So over two years that figure goes to $480-$720 dearer. I then also factored in selling off one phone model as well. That was about 3 years ago now I'd say. So jump forward to now,…. If I relook at the plan I'm on now ($79/month) which still has the same $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB of data. (on average I can spend between $950-$1150 worth of calls per month). To get a similar plan now http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/iphone-6/index.htm?switch=Features The medium plan I either have to take less data or less amount of calls depending on which extra I choose,..so although its $86/per month it's not as good. So I look at the Large plan which will give me either more data then I have now but less calls,…(which I could just squeeze
Re: iPhone 6, Telstra plan breakdown thinking and my ramblings,…..
Hi Rod Apologies for the long post,…but hopefully it all follows and you can get the info from it,…..(I have a habit now of not re-reading a post,…just sending it,…lol). (I changed the subject line slightly as well). Not necessarily…..it's kind of a yes and no and maybe answer I'm afraid. And every person/plan is different. But I'll give you my take on my plan and situation,……seeing as it relates to me. A few years back when I bought iPhones (4s) for myself and Ronni we did some calculations. (well we spoke on length about it) and we worked out the best plans for both of us. I went with a $79 BYOM plan (bring your own mobile). The reason being it was cheaper per month by about $20-$30 and at that time only on a 12month contract versus the 24 month contract. So for that plan I got $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB data. (I went with Telstra due to the Vodafone mess they had at the time and the better Telstra coverage I needed for moving around Perth area and hills a lot,..as well as down South etc). The current plan at the time where they gave you a free phone was about $99 or $109 for the same value. So when I looked at it, it was about $240-360 cheaper per year to buy the phone outright and then sign up for a BYOM plan. (and obviously double that if I looked at being locked in to a 2 year contract plan. So over two years that figure goes to $480-$720 dearer. I then also factored in selling off one phone model as well. That was about 3 years ago now I'd say. So jump forward to now,…. If I relook at the plan I'm on now ($79/month) which still has the same $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB of data. (on average I can spend between $950-$1150 worth of calls per month). To get a similar plan now http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/iphone-6/index.htm?switch=Features The medium plan I either have to take less data or less amount of calls depending on which extra I choose,..so although its $86/per month it's not as good. So I look at the Large plan which will give me either more data then I have now but less calls,…(which I could just squeeze in.) or more call value and the same amount of data. (which would be my safer bet). This plan is $95. Which is $16 per month more and I'm locked into a 24month contract. And with that I get a free 64GB iPhone 6. (For ease of calculation I just look at it at $20/per month more). But for exact calculation,..it's $192 per year dearer. Factor that in being locked into a 2 year contract to compare,…then it's $384 dearer over those two years. I then work out that roughly I can get $350-$400 for my wife's iPhone 4s 64GB. So take the lower figure. (She then gets my iPhone 5 32GB). So I take those two figures together,…$384 :saving and $350 selling the older phone. This makes a total of $734. To buy outright the iPhone 6 64GB is $999. So if I then look over the 2 year period again, it's really cost me about $265. (yes, I have to buy it at full price upfront,..and hope that I sell the older iPhone. And then wait for the full 2 years to get the savings). Anything falls over with these conditions then can throw a spanner in the works/calculation. (plus, depending on jobs, some businesses will let you write off a portion of your phone purchase as a business expensive…the higher percentage depending on how much you use it for work.). Obviously there are a few factors that can poke holes in all this. Not limited to,…if you upgrade again after 12 months, the calculations are all thrown out. Given I skipped over the 5s and am going from 5 to 6,…I assume that I'll go to the iPhone 7 (unless there's some massive huge wow factor for the iPhone 6s) (s being for Sapphire screen)….lol,..I don't know,..I'm guessing. (not that I've ever broken a screen on any iPhone,..touch wood). Another factor is if Telstra come along and say I'm sorry we're discontinuing that plan as it's an old plan and we no longer support it,…so you must upgrade to our new fantastic super beneficial much better plans. (note the sarcasm and sales technique,….lol). Or some other factors. So hopefully that answers your plan, and calculations. For where I buy. At this stage i keep trying the reservation service for the Apple shops. (preferably Garden City). But if anyone else lets me buy it outright,..then I'll go there. (JBHiFi won't sell outright until about next week, as they sell on plans first,..as they make more money from them over an outright purchase customer). Otherwise I was uing and aing to buy it online direct from Apple. Either way, it's still full RRP. Shops I can sometimes use my retail experience jedi powers sell it a little cheaper please magic,……. (or hey, how about throw in a $20 cover) :o) Either way, I know they make nothing on it really,….but hey. Always worth a try :)) So hopefully that one answers your buying question ;) Hope all that helps. I'm sure my thinking can probably be picked about in places,…but hey
Re: iPhone 6, Telstra plan breakdown thinking and my ramblings,…..
Struth Daniel, Perhaps you should publish this new book of yours on Amazon Kindle Services ! ! On 20 Sep 2014, at 6:19 pm, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Hi Rod Apologies for the long post,…but hopefully it all follows and you can get the info from it,…..(I have a habit now of not re-reading a post,…just sending it,…lol). (I changed the subject line slightly as well). Not necessarily…..it's kind of a yes and no and maybe answer I'm afraid. And every person/plan is different. But I'll give you my take on my plan and situation,……seeing as it relates to me. A few years back when I bought iPhones (4s) for myself and Ronni we did some calculations. (well we spoke on length about it) and we worked out the best plans for both of us. I went with a $79 BYOM plan (bring your own mobile). The reason being it was cheaper per month by about $20-$30 and at that time only on a 12month contract versus the 24 month contract. So for that plan I got $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB data. (I went with Telstra due to the Vodafone mess they had at the time and the better Telstra coverage I needed for moving around Perth area and hills a lot,..as well as down South etc). The current plan at the time where they gave you a free phone was about $99 or $109 for the same value. So when I looked at it, it was about $240-360 cheaper per year to buy the phone outright and then sign up for a BYOM plan. (and obviously double that if I looked at being locked in to a 2 year contract plan. So over two years that figure goes to $480-$720 dearer. I then also factored in selling off one phone model as well. That was about 3 years ago now I'd say. So jump forward to now,…. If I relook at the plan I'm on now ($79/month) which still has the same $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB of data. (on average I can spend between $950-$1150 worth of calls per month). To get a similar plan now http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/iphone-6/index.htm?switch=Features The medium plan I either have to take less data or less amount of calls depending on which extra I choose,..so although its $86/per month it's not as good. So I look at the Large plan which will give me either more data then I have now but less calls,…(which I could just squeeze in.) or more call value and the same amount of data. (which would be my safer bet). This plan is $95. Which is $16 per month more and I'm locked into a 24month contract. And with that I get a free 64GB iPhone 6. (For ease of calculation I just look at it at $20/per month more). But for exact calculation,..it's $192 per year dearer. Factor that in being locked into a 2 year contract to compare,…then it's $384 dearer over those two years. I then work out that roughly I can get $350-$400 for my wife's iPhone 4s 64GB. So take the lower figure. (She then gets my iPhone 5 32GB). So I take those two figures together,…$384 :saving and $350 selling the older phone. This makes a total of $734. To buy outright the iPhone 6 64GB is $999. So if I then look over the 2 year period again, it's really cost me about $265. (yes, I have to buy it at full price upfront,..and hope that I sell the older iPhone. And then wait for the full 2 years to get the savings). Anything falls over with these conditions then can throw a spanner in the works/calculation. (plus, depending on jobs, some businesses will let you write off a portion of your phone purchase as a business expensive…the higher percentage depending on how much you use it for work.). Obviously there are a few factors that can poke holes in all this. Not limited to,…if you upgrade again after 12 months, the calculations are all thrown out. Given I skipped over the 5s and am going from 5 to 6,…I assume that I'll go to the iPhone 7 (unless there's some massive huge wow factor for the iPhone 6s) (s being for Sapphire screen)….lol,..I don't know,..I'm guessing. (not that I've ever broken a screen on any iPhone,..touch wood). Another factor is if Telstra come along and say I'm sorry we're discontinuing that plan as it's an old plan and we no longer support it,…so you must upgrade to our new fantastic super beneficial much better plans. (note the sarcasm and sales technique,….lol). Or some other factors. So hopefully that answers your plan, and calculations. For where I buy. At this stage i keep trying the reservation service for the Apple shops. (preferably Garden City). But if anyone else lets me buy it outright,..then I'll go there. (JBHiFi won't sell outright until about next week, as they sell on plans first,..as they make more money from them over an outright purchase customer). Otherwise I was uing and aing to buy it online direct from Apple. Either way, it's still full RRP. Shops I can sometimes use my retail experience jedi powers sell it a little cheaper please magic,……. (or hey, how about throw
Re: iPhone 6, Telstra plan breakdown thinking and my ramblings,…..
lol yes,…at least I gave it for-warning,…lol (both in ramblings in the Subject line, and an apology at the start.),..hehe ;) I don't think I'd ever be a good wordsmith,…I waffle too much sometimes,…lol :) Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 20/09/2014, at 6:50 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote: Struth Daniel, Perhaps you should publish this new book of yours on Amazon Kindle Services ! ! On 20 Sep 2014, at 6:19 pm, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Hi Rod Apologies for the long post,…but hopefully it all follows and you can get the info from it,…..(I have a habit now of not re-reading a post,…just sending it,…lol). (I changed the subject line slightly as well). Not necessarily…..it's kind of a yes and no and maybe answer I'm afraid. And every person/plan is different. But I'll give you my take on my plan and situation,……seeing as it relates to me. A few years back when I bought iPhones (4s) for myself and Ronni we did some calculations. (well we spoke on length about it) and we worked out the best plans for both of us. I went with a $79 BYOM plan (bring your own mobile). The reason being it was cheaper per month by about $20-$30 and at that time only on a 12month contract versus the 24 month contract. So for that plan I got $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB data. (I went with Telstra due to the Vodafone mess they had at the time and the better Telstra coverage I needed for moving around Perth area and hills a lot,..as well as down South etc). The current plan at the time where they gave you a free phone was about $99 or $109 for the same value. So when I looked at it, it was about $240-360 cheaper per year to buy the phone outright and then sign up for a BYOM plan. (and obviously double that if I looked at being locked in to a 2 year contract plan. So over two years that figure goes to $480-$720 dearer. I then also factored in selling off one phone model as well. That was about 3 years ago now I'd say. So jump forward to now,…. If I relook at the plan I'm on now ($79/month) which still has the same $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB of data. (on average I can spend between $950-$1150 worth of calls per month). To get a similar plan now http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/iphone-6/index.htm?switch=Features The medium plan I either have to take less data or less amount of calls depending on which extra I choose,..so although its $86/per month it's not as good. So I look at the Large plan which will give me either more data then I have now but less calls,…(which I could just squeeze in.) or more call value and the same amount of data. (which would be my safer bet). This plan is $95. Which is $16 per month more and I'm locked into a 24month contract. And with that I get a free 64GB iPhone 6. (For ease of calculation I just look at it at $20/per month more). But for exact calculation,..it's $192 per year dearer. Factor that in being locked into a 2 year contract to compare,…then it's $384 dearer over those two years. I then work out that roughly I can get $350-$400 for my wife's iPhone 4s 64GB. So take the lower figure. (She then gets my iPhone 5 32GB). So I take those two figures together,…$384 :saving and $350 selling the older phone. This makes a total of $734. To buy outright the iPhone 6 64GB is $999. So if I then look over the 2 year period again, it's really cost me about $265. (yes, I have to buy it at full price upfront,..and hope that I sell the older iPhone. And then wait for the full 2 years to get the savings). Anything falls over with these conditions then can throw a spanner in the works/calculation. (plus, depending on jobs, some businesses will let you write off a portion of your phone purchase as a business expensive…the higher percentage depending on how much you use it for work.). Obviously there are a few factors that can poke holes in all this. Not limited to,…if you upgrade again after 12 months, the calculations are all thrown out. Given I skipped over the 5s and am going from 5 to 6,…I assume that I'll go to the iPhone 7 (unless there's some massive huge wow factor for the iPhone 6s) (s being for Sapphire screen)….lol,..I don't know,..I'm guessing. (not that I've ever broken a screen on any iPhone,..touch wood). Another factor is if Telstra come along and say I'm sorry we're
Re: iPhone 6, Telstra plan breakdown thinking and my ramblings,…..
No problem mate ! A very informative read and the more info we give each other the better educated we all are ! On 20 Sep 2014, at 7:39 pm, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: lol yes,…at least I gave it for-warning,…lol (both in ramblings in the Subject line, and an apology at the start.),..hehe ;) I don't think I'd ever be a good wordsmith,…I waffle too much sometimes,…lol :) Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 20/09/2014, at 6:50 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote: Struth Daniel, Perhaps you should publish this new book of yours on Amazon Kindle Services ! ! On 20 Sep 2014, at 6:19 pm, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Hi Rod Apologies for the long post,…but hopefully it all follows and you can get the info from it,…..(I have a habit now of not re-reading a post,…just sending it,…lol). (I changed the subject line slightly as well). Not necessarily…..it's kind of a yes and no and maybe answer I'm afraid. And every person/plan is different. But I'll give you my take on my plan and situation,……seeing as it relates to me. A few years back when I bought iPhones (4s) for myself and Ronni we did some calculations. (well we spoke on length about it) and we worked out the best plans for both of us. I went with a $79 BYOM plan (bring your own mobile). The reason being it was cheaper per month by about $20-$30 and at that time only on a 12month contract versus the 24 month contract. So for that plan I got $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB data. (I went with Telstra due to the Vodafone mess they had at the time and the better Telstra coverage I needed for moving around Perth area and hills a lot,..as well as down South etc). The current plan at the time where they gave you a free phone was about $99 or $109 for the same value. So when I looked at it, it was about $240-360 cheaper per year to buy the phone outright and then sign up for a BYOM plan. (and obviously double that if I looked at being locked in to a 2 year contract plan. So over two years that figure goes to $480-$720 dearer. I then also factored in selling off one phone model as well. That was about 3 years ago now I'd say. So jump forward to now,…. If I relook at the plan I'm on now ($79/month) which still has the same $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB of data. (on average I can spend between $950-$1150 worth of calls per month). To get a similar plan now http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/iphone-6/index.htm?switch=Features The medium plan I either have to take less data or less amount of calls depending on which extra I choose,..so although its $86/per month it's not as good. So I look at the Large plan which will give me either more data then I have now but less calls,…(which I could just squeeze in.) or more call value and the same amount of data. (which would be my safer bet). This plan is $95. Which is $16 per month more and I'm locked into a 24month contract. And with that I get a free 64GB iPhone 6. (For ease of calculation I just look at it at $20/per month more). But for exact calculation,..it's $192 per year dearer. Factor that in being locked into a 2 year contract to compare,…then it's $384 dearer over those two years. I then work out that roughly I can get $350-$400 for my wife's iPhone 4s 64GB. So take the lower figure. (She then gets my iPhone 5 32GB). So I take those two figures together,…$384 :saving and $350 selling the older phone. This makes a total of $734. To buy outright the iPhone 6 64GB is $999. So if I then look over the 2 year period again, it's really cost me about $265. (yes, I have to buy it at full price upfront,..and hope that I sell the older iPhone. And then wait for the full 2 years to get the savings). Anything falls over with these conditions then can throw a spanner in the works/calculation. (plus, depending on jobs, some businesses will let you write off a portion of your phone purchase as a business expensive…the higher percentage depending on how much you use it for work.). Obviously there are a few factors that can poke holes in all this. Not limited to,…if you upgrade again after 12 months, the calculations are all thrown out. Given I skipped over the 5s and am going from 5 to 6,…I assume that I'll go to the iPhone 7 (unless there's some massive huge wow factor
Re: iPhone 6, Telstra plan breakdown thinking and my ramblings,…..
Yes,…so much to learn,….so little time ;) hehehe Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 20/09/2014, at 8:27 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote: No problem mate ! A very informative read and the more info we give each other the better educated we all are ! On 20 Sep 2014, at 7:39 pm, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: lol yes,…at least I gave it for-warning,…lol (both in ramblings in the Subject line, and an apology at the start.),..hehe ;) I don't think I'd ever be a good wordsmith,…I waffle too much sometimes,…lol :) Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 20/09/2014, at 6:50 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote: Struth Daniel, Perhaps you should publish this new book of yours on Amazon Kindle Services ! ! On 20 Sep 2014, at 6:19 pm, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Hi Rod Apologies for the long post,…but hopefully it all follows and you can get the info from it,…..(I have a habit now of not re-reading a post,…just sending it,…lol). (I changed the subject line slightly as well). Not necessarily…..it's kind of a yes and no and maybe answer I'm afraid. And every person/plan is different. But I'll give you my take on my plan and situation,……seeing as it relates to me. A few years back when I bought iPhones (4s) for myself and Ronni we did some calculations. (well we spoke on length about it) and we worked out the best plans for both of us. I went with a $79 BYOM plan (bring your own mobile). The reason being it was cheaper per month by about $20-$30 and at that time only on a 12month contract versus the 24 month contract. So for that plan I got $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB data. (I went with Telstra due to the Vodafone mess they had at the time and the better Telstra coverage I needed for moving around Perth area and hills a lot,..as well as down South etc). The current plan at the time where they gave you a free phone was about $99 or $109 for the same value. So when I looked at it, it was about $240-360 cheaper per year to buy the phone outright and then sign up for a BYOM plan. (and obviously double that if I looked at being locked in to a 2 year contract plan. So over two years that figure goes to $480-$720 dearer. I then also factored in selling off one phone model as well. That was about 3 years ago now I'd say. So jump forward to now,…. If I relook at the plan I'm on now ($79/month) which still has the same $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB of data. (on average I can spend between $950-$1150 worth of calls per month). To get a similar plan now http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/iphone-6/index.htm?switch=Features The medium plan I either have to take less data or less amount of calls depending on which extra I choose,..so although its $86/per month it's not as good. So I look at the Large plan which will give me either more data then I have now but less calls,…(which I could just squeeze in.) or more call value and the same amount of data. (which would be my safer bet). This plan is $95. Which is $16 per month more and I'm locked into a 24month contract. And with that I get a free 64GB iPhone 6. (For ease of calculation I just look at it at $20/per month more). But for exact calculation,..it's $192 per year dearer. Factor that in being locked into a 2 year contract to compare,…then it's $384 dearer over those two years. I then work out that roughly I can get $350-$400 for my wife's iPhone 4s 64GB. So take the lower figure. (She then gets my iPhone 5 32GB). So I take those two figures together,…$384 :saving and $350 selling the older phone. This makes a total of $734. To buy outright the iPhone 6 64GB is $999. So if I then look over the 2 year period again, it's really cost me about $265. (yes, I have to buy it at full price upfront
Re: iPhone 6, Telstra plan breakdown thinking and my ramblings,…..
Hi DanielDon't ever apologise for rambling as you always share valuable knowledge. Thanks for that.I have done some sums too and in my scenario, unless I have missed something, the numbers work differently.A few provisos:I must stay with Telstra because of their coverage (particularly noticeable when out of the city on camping trips). I have very low data and call requirements.I don't have a problem sticking with one phone for 2 years. So: Phone with Plan:Telstra 64GB iPhone 6 on Small plan $550 calls 1GB data Minimum total cost is $1968 over 24 months. Purchase Own Phone: Telstra BYOM plan $550 calls 500mb data $45/month, $1080 in 24 months PLUS cost of Phone $999 = $2079 Cheers Rod - Original Message - From: wamug@wamug.org.au To: Cc: Sent:Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:19:17 +0800 Subject:Re: iPhone 6, Telstra plan breakdown thinking and my ramblings,….. Hi Rod Apologies for the long post,…but hopefully it all follows and you can get the info from it,…..(I have a habit now of not re-reading a post,…just sending it,…lol). (I changed the subject line slightly as well). Not necessarily…..it's kind of a yes and no and maybe answer I'm afraid. And every person/plan is different. But I'll give you my take on my plan and situation,……seeing as it relates to me. A few years back when I bought iPhones (4s) for myself and Ronni we did some calculations. (well we spoke on length about it) and we worked out the best plans for both of us. I went with a $79 BYOM plan (bring your own mobile). The reason being it was cheaper per month by about $20-$30 and at that time only on a 12month contract versus the 24 month contract. So for that plan I got $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB data. (I went with Telstra due to the Vodafone mess they had at the time and the better Telstra coverage I needed for moving around Perth area and hills a lot,..as well as down South etc). The current plan at the time where they gave you a free phone was about $99 or $109 for the same value. So when I looked at it, it was about $240-360 cheaper per year to buy the phone outright and then sign up for a BYOM plan. (and obviously double that if I looked at being locked in to a 2 year contract plan. So over two years that figure goes to $480-$720 dearer. I then also factored in selling off one phone model as well. That was about 3 years ago now I'd say. So jump forward to now,…. If I relook at the plan I'm on now ($79/month) which still has the same $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB of data. (on average I can spend between $950-$1150 worth of calls per month). To get a similar plan now http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/iphone-6/index.htm?switch=Features [1] The medium plan I either have to take less data or less amount of calls depending on which extra I choose,..so although its $86/per month it's not as good. So I look at the Large plan which will give me either more data then I have now but less calls,…(which I could just squeeze in.) or more call value and the same amount of data. (which would be my safer bet). This plan is $95. Which is $16 per month more and I'm locked into a 24month contract. And with that I get a free 64GB iPhone 6. (For ease of calculation I just look at it at $20/per month more). But for exact calculation,..it's $192 per year dearer. Factor that in being locked into a 2 year contract to compare,…then it's $384 dearer over those two years. I then work out that roughly I can get $350-$400 for my wife's iPhone 4s 64GB. So take the lower figure. (She then gets my iPhone 5 32GB). So I take those two figures together,…$384 :saving and $350 selling the older phone. This makes a total of $734. To buy outright the iPhone 6 64GB is $999. So if I then look over the 2 year period again, it's really cost me about $265. (yes, I have to buy it at full price upfront,..and hope that I sell the older iPhone. And then wait for the full 2 years to get the savings). Anything falls over with these conditions then can throw a spanner in the works/calculation. (plus, depending on jobs, some businesses will let you write off a portion of your phone purchase as a business expensive…the higher percentage depending on how much you use it for work.). Obviously there are a few factors that can poke holes in all this. Not limited to,…if you upgrade again after 12 months, the calculations are all thrown out. Given I skipped over the 5s and am going from 5 to 6,…I assume that I'll go to the iPhone 7 (unless there's some massive huge wow factor for the iPhone 6s) (s being for Sapphire screen)….lol,..I don't know,..I'm guessing. (not that I've ever broken a screen on any iPhone,..touch wood). Another factor is if Telstra come along and say I'm sorry we're discontinuing that plan as it's an old plan and we no longer support it,…so you must upgrade to our new fantastic super beneficial much better plans. (note the sarcasm and sales technique,….lol). Or some other factors. So
Re: iPhone 6, Telstra plan breakdown thinking and my ramblings,…..
Thanks Rod :o) Yes, in your case,…I would say the Maths work out better,..so the plan with phone included comes out as better option over the 2 year period. I think it was just the older plans (no longer available) that made it more of a savings option. (When Vodafone had all the issues, Telstra made themselves more appealing to try win over some of the customers to change networks. Now that everyone changed, they've kinda decreased the plans. Sort of like hey, you're here now, you know the coverage is great,…so we'll just start decreasing what we give you slowly,…hopefully you won't notice :o) (Can you tell I like Telstra for their coverage, not so much for their service,….lol.) (Note, that's just my personal opinion,…lol). Actually, to be fair, they're pretty good,…just sometimes not so when you have to call them. (which thankfully I never have to do). So yes, in your case,..you save yourself about $111 over the 2 years with getting the iPhone through Telstra. Fun exercise to do too,… :) hehe. Enjoy Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 21/09/2014, at 8:01 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Daniel Don't ever apologise for rambling as you always share valuable knowledge. Thanks for that. I have done some sums too and in my scenario, unless I have missed something, the numbers work differently. A few provisos: I must stay with Telstra because of their coverage (particularly noticeable when out of the city on camping trips). I have very low data and call requirements. I don't have a problem sticking with one phone for 2 years. So: Phone with Plan:Telstra 64GB iPhone 6 on Small plan $550 calls 1GB data Minimum total cost is $1968 over 24 months. Purchase Own Phone: Telstra BYOM plan $550 calls 500mb data $45/month, $1080 in 24 months PLUS cost of Phone $999 = $2079 Cheers Rod - Original Message - From: wamug@wamug.org.au To: wamug@wamug.org.au Cc: Sent: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:19:17 +0800 Subject: Re: iPhone 6, Telstra plan breakdown thinking and my ramblings,….. Hi Rod Apologies for the long post,…but hopefully it all follows and you can get the info from it,…..(I have a habit now of not re-reading a post,…just sending it,…lol). (I changed the subject line slightly as well). Not necessarily….it's kind of a yes and no and maybe answer I'm afraid. And every person/plan is different. But I'll give you my take on my plan and situation,……seeing as it relates to me. A few years back when I bought iPhones (4s) for myself and Ronni we did some calculations. (well we spoke on length about it) and we worked out the best plans for both of us. I went with a $79 BYOM plan (bring your own mobile). The reason being it was cheaper per month by about $20-$30 and at that time only on a 12month contract versus the 24 month contract. So for that plan I got $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB data. (I went with Telstra due to the Vodafone mess they had at the time and the better Telstra coverage I needed for moving around Perth area and hills a lot,..as well as down South etc) The current plan at the time where they gave you a free phone was about $99 or $109 for the same value. So when I looked at it, it was about $240-360 cheaper per year to buy the phone outright and then sign up for a BYOM plan. (and obviously double that if I looked at being locked in to a 2 year contract plan. So over two years that figure goes to $480-$720 dearer. I then also factored in selling off one phone model as well. That was about 3 years ago now I'd say. So jump forward to now,…. If I relook at the plan I'm on now ($79/month) which still has the same $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB of data. (on average I can spend between $950-$1150 worth of calls per month). To get a similar plan now http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/iphone-6/index.htm?switch=Features The medium plan I either have to take less data or less amount of calls depending on which extra I choose,..so although its $86/per month it's not as good. So I look at the Large plan which will give me either more data then I have now but less calls,…(which I could just squeeze in.) or more call value and the same amount of data. (which would be my safer bet). This plan is $95. Which is $16 per month more and I'm locked into a 24month contract. And with that I get a free 64GB iPhone 6
Telstra iPad Recharge
Hi WAMIGers I have had my iPad mini for almost a month. Thanks to your great advice I only signed up for a one month $30 pre-paid data account. It expires in a few days. I have only used about $2 worth of the data. My re-charge options are a bit horrific, only one month choices or one year (see below): $20 1GB (1.95c per MB), 30 days expiry $30 3GB (0.97c per MB), 30 days expiry $60 6GB (0.97c per MB), 30 days expiry $80 9GB (0.86c per MB), 30 days expiry $100 12GB (0.81c per MB), 30 days expiry $180 12GB (1.46c per MB), 365 days expiry Quite disappointed with Telstra over this. But have to be with Telstra. Looks like i have to go with the $180 twelve month one??? Your advice? ta blitto Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam’s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.au http://web.mac.com/blitto I don't have a big ego, I'm way too cool for that. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130104/8332b2a7/attachment.htm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1082 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130104/8332b2a7/attachment.gif -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Telstra iPad Recharge
Hi Rod, I'm in a similar situation I figured the $180/365 day recharge had to be the best: It works out to only $15/month so it's cheaper than the lowest 30 day recharge It gives you an AVERAGE of 1GB/month - the same as the lowest 30 day recharge It allows you to have several low use months plus one or two high use months - so long as you stay below the 12GB total If you take off for a while, you can use a bit more data and use it as a mobile hotspot for your iphone /or laptop and it will all average out with your normal (low) useage. Well, that's my thinking anyway ;o) Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 4/1/13 6:09 PM, Rod Blitvich at rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi WAMIGers I have had my iPad mini for almost a month. Thanks to your great advice I only signed up for a one month $30 pre-paid data account. It expires in a few days. I have only used about $2 worth of the data. My re-charge options are a bit horrific, only one month choices or one year (see below): $20 1GB (1.95c per MB), 30 days expiry $30 3GB (0.97c per MB), 30 days expiry $60 6GB (0.97c per MB), 30 days expiry $80 9GB (0.86c per MB), 30 days expiry $100 12GB (0.81c per MB), 30 days expiry $180 12GB (1.46c per MB), 365 days expiry Quite disappointed with Telstra over this. But have to be with Telstra. Looks like i have to go with the $180 twelve month one??? Your advice? ta blitto Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam¹s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.au http://web.mac.com/blitto I don't have a big ego, I'm way too cool for that. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130104/83 32b2a7/attachment.htm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1082 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130104/83 32b2a7/attachment.gif -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Telstra iPad Recharge
Hi, Rod, Neil, The 12GB/$180.-- /365 days is a bargain. And it is more convenient. That's what I use. When you are traveling Telstra has the best coverage - even though I don't like Telstra for other reasons. Cheers, Walter Sent from my iPad On 04/01/2013, at 21:51, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote: Hi Rod, I'm in a similar situation I figured the $180/365 day recharge had to be the best: € It works out to only $15/month so it's cheaper than the lowest 30 day recharge € It gives you an AVERAGE of 1GB/month - the same as the lowest 30 day recharge € It allows you to have several low use months plus one or two high use months - so long as you stay below the 12GB total € If you take off for a while, you can use a bit more data and use it as a mobile hotspot for your iphone /or laptop and it will all average out with your normal (low) useage. Well, that's my thinking anyway ;o) Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 4/1/13 6:09 PM, Rod Blitvich at rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi WAMIGers I have had my iPad mini for almost a month. Thanks to your great advice I only signed up for a one month $30 pre-paid data account. It expires in a few days. I have only used about $2 worth of the data. My re-charge options are a bit horrific, only one month choices or one year (see below): $20 1GB (1.95c per MB), 30 days expiry $30 3GB (0.97c per MB), 30 days expiry $60 6GB (0.97c per MB), 30 days expiry $80 9GB (0.86c per MB), 30 days expiry $100 12GB (0.81c per MB), 30 days expiry $180 12GB (1.46c per MB), 365 days expiry Quite disappointed with Telstra over this. But have to be with Telstra. Looks like i have to go with the $180 twelve month one??? Your advice? ta blitto Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam¹s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.au http://web.mac.com/blitto I don't have a big ego, I'm way too cool for that. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130104/83 32b2a7/attachment.htm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1082 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130104/83 32b2a7/attachment.gif -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Consolation from Telstra
Ronni, Sorry not to have replied sooner, but my modem carked it while I was attempting the suggested .bin ploy. I don't know what I did wrong. I was left with no connection and a 3G iPad that I had never used, not even the basics. (Yes, there are still a few who have never taken part in the mania.) On top of that, I found myself very short on time. Anyway, 10 days later, I'm still waiting for Telstra to provide the new modem. I've just started using an Optus E586 modem. It will be interesting to compare the two when I eventually get the Telstra modem. If I ever do. Thanks for your help ... and Happy Christmas. Vlad On 27/11/2012, at 8:53 PM, Ronni wrote: Hi Vladimir, Did you download the Firmware file 3G21WB_FW_Update_Tool_R22.zip from the link I sent in my previous reply? When you download the file unzips and you have a folder titled 3G21WB_FW_Update_Tool_R22 1. Open that Folder and inside is a Data folder 2. Open the Data folder and you will find the MacBinary file - 3G21WB-J301-402TBP-T01_R22.bin 3. You should be able to do the update as intended using the normal update function from the web interface. You must have the Modem connected to your Mac via the Ethernet cable, log into the Modem's Web interface and update the firmware. Cheers, Ronni On 27/11/2012, at 6:22 PM, Vladimir James ink...@bigpond.com wrote: Ronni, Thanks for the links and your thoughts. I spent close to three hours on the phone to Telstra today, negotiating for an updated modem. Spoke to four different people; spent most of the time getting a cramp in my arm from holding the phone and waiting (I won't be long; please hold the line.). I refused to accept that bringing the modem to the Telstra shop was a reasonable solution. What-the-hell! I'm an octogenarian; driving and walking are major efforts now, and the nearest shop is about 40km away. Besides, Telstra knew I was a Mac user when it sold me the modem. The final result: I'll receive an updated modem for about 25% of the usual cost, which is $299. However, I had to sign up for a 12 month plan — I've been on a month-to-month for many years. I'm satisfied that it was the best I could do, and I can assure you, getting this result was no piece of cake. Persistence, patience, rational arguments ... and luck. Telstra is touting its 'new' approach to service. There is no doubt that someone in Telstra is trying, but they've got a long way to go. I won't know how reasonable this result is until I try the updated modem. Cheers, Vlad On 27/11/2012, at 12:00 PM, Ronni wrote: I feel your pain and frustration Vladimir. Bigpond are saying that firmware can only be upgraded using a Windows PC, as firmware upgrades are all .exe files and thus cannot be upgraded from Mac, Linux, BSD or Unix computers, unless you run Windows in a virtual machine or similar environment. So you need Windows installed in Parallels Desktop or Boot Camp or similar on your Mac to upgrade the firmware. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 27/11/2012, at 8:18 AM, Vladimir James ink...@bigpond.com wrote: Aside from coverage, I have found that Telstra's service for this Mac user sucks. I have a wireless 3G plan using the NetComm 3G21WB modem. I received notice that the modem urgently required an update, and since my download speeds had been averaging less than 1 MBps, I made enquiries. I found that the update required the use of a Windows machine. Well, I had deliberately divested myself of Windows hardware and software. I complained. A week or so later, I received replies from Technical Support: First, I would like to extend my apologies for any inconvenience that this issue had caused you. Unfortunately, firmware update file is only compatible with a Windows computer. You can only update the 3G21 modem by using downloading the file to a Windows Computer, connect the modem to the Windows Computer using an ethernet cable. Lastly run the file from the Windows computer to your modem. If you have any other questions And, another ... We understand how hassle to do this upgrade. As far as benefit is concern it will help your connection perform much better. For the meantime, the only way that we can perform this upgrade is by connecting your modem to a Windows machine, and run the download on that machine. Once done, you can now connect using your MAC and receive the higher downlink speeds. BigPond is still finding its better solution on how we can establish such process on MAC users soon. In case you missed it, they are telling me that I have to borrow or otherwise acquire a different OS in order to update the equipment they sold me as a Mac user. Still seething, Vlad James Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing
Re: Consolation from Telstra
Ronni, Thanks for the links and your thoughts. I spent close to three hours on the phone to Telstra today, negotiating for an updated modem. Spoke to four different people; spent most of the time getting a cramp in my arm from holding the phone and waiting (I won't be long; please hold the line.). I refused to accept that bringing the modem to the Telstra shop was a reasonable solution. What-the-hell! I'm an octogenarian; driving and walking are major efforts now, and the nearest shop is about 40km away. Besides, Telstra knew I was a Mac user when it sold me the modem. The final result: I'll receive an updated modem for about 25% of the usual cost, which is $299. However, I had to sign up for a 12 month plan — I've been on a month-to-month for many years. I'm satisfied that it was the best I could do, and I can assure you, getting this result was no piece of cake. Persistence, patience, rational arguments ... and luck. Telstra is touting its 'new' approach to service. There is no doubt that someone in Telstra is trying, but they've got a long way to go. I won't know how reasonable this result is until I try the updated modem. Cheers, Vlad On 27/11/2012, at 12:00 PM, Ronni wrote: I feel your pain and frustration Vladimir. Bigpond are saying that firmware can only be upgraded using a Windows PC, as firmware upgrades are all .exe files and thus cannot be upgraded from Mac, Linux, BSD or Unix computers, unless you run Windows in a virtual machine or similar environment. So you need Windows installed in Parallels Desktop or Boot Camp or similar on your Mac to upgrade the firmware. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 27/11/2012, at 8:18 AM, Vladimir James ink...@bigpond.com wrote: Aside from coverage, I have found that Telstra's service for this Mac user sucks. I have a wireless 3G plan using the NetComm 3G21WB modem. I received notice that the modem urgently required an update, and since my download speeds had been averaging less than 1 MBps, I made enquiries. I found that the update required the use of a Windows machine. Well, I had deliberately divested myself of Windows hardware and software. I complained. A week or so later, I received replies from Technical Support: First, I would like to extend my apologies for any inconvenience that this issue had caused you. Unfortunately, firmware update file is only compatible with a Windows computer. You can only update the 3G21 modem by using downloading the file to a Windows Computer, connect the modem to the Windows Computer using an ethernet cable. Lastly run the file from the Windows computer to your modem. If you have any other questions And, another ... We understand how hassle to do this upgrade. As far as benefit is concern it will help your connection perform much better. For the meantime, the only way that we can perform this upgrade is by connecting your modem to a Windows machine, and run the download on that machine. Once done, you can now connect using your MAC and receive the higher downlink speeds. BigPond is still finding its better solution on how we can establish such process on MAC users soon. In case you missed it, they are telling me that I have to borrow or otherwise acquire a different OS in order to update the equipment they sold me as a Mac user. Still seething, Vlad James -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Consolation from Telstra
Hi Vladimir, Did you download the Firmware file 3G21WB_FW_Update_Tool_R22.zip from the link I sent in my previous reply? When you download the file unzips and you have a folder titled 3G21WB_FW_Update_Tool_R22 1. Open that Folder and inside is a Data folder 2. Open the Data folder and you will find the MacBinary file - 3G21WB-J301-402TBP-T01_R22.bin 3. You should be able to do the update as intended using the normal update function from the web interface. You must have the Modem connected to your Mac via the Ethernet cable, log into the Modem's Web interface and update the firmware. Cheers, Ronni On 27/11/2012, at 6:22 PM, Vladimir James ink...@bigpond.com wrote: Ronni, Thanks for the links and your thoughts. I spent close to three hours on the phone to Telstra today, negotiating for an updated modem. Spoke to four different people; spent most of the time getting a cramp in my arm from holding the phone and waiting (I won't be long; please hold the line.). I refused to accept that bringing the modem to the Telstra shop was a reasonable solution. What-the-hell! I'm an octogenarian; driving and walking are major efforts now, and the nearest shop is about 40km away. Besides, Telstra knew I was a Mac user when it sold me the modem. The final result: I'll receive an updated modem for about 25% of the usual cost, which is $299. However, I had to sign up for a 12 month plan — I've been on a month-to-month for many years. I'm satisfied that it was the best I could do, and I can assure you, getting this result was no piece of cake. Persistence, patience, rational arguments ... and luck. Telstra is touting its 'new' approach to service. There is no doubt that someone in Telstra is trying, but they've got a long way to go. I won't know how reasonable this result is until I try the updated modem. Cheers, Vlad On 27/11/2012, at 12:00 PM, Ronni wrote: I feel your pain and frustration Vladimir. Bigpond are saying that firmware can only be upgraded using a Windows PC, as firmware upgrades are all .exe files and thus cannot be upgraded from Mac, Linux, BSD or Unix computers, unless you run Windows in a virtual machine or similar environment. So you need Windows installed in Parallels Desktop or Boot Camp or similar on your Mac to upgrade the firmware. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 27/11/2012, at 8:18 AM, Vladimir James ink...@bigpond.com wrote: Aside from coverage, I have found that Telstra's service for this Mac user sucks. I have a wireless 3G plan using the NetComm 3G21WB modem. I received notice that the modem urgently required an update, and since my download speeds had been averaging less than 1 MBps, I made enquiries. I found that the update required the use of a Windows machine. Well, I had deliberately divested myself of Windows hardware and software. I complained. A week or so later, I received replies from Technical Support: First, I would like to extend my apologies for any inconvenience that this issue had caused you. Unfortunately, firmware update file is only compatible with a Windows computer. You can only update the 3G21 modem by using downloading the file to a Windows Computer, connect the modem to the Windows Computer using an ethernet cable. Lastly run the file from the Windows computer to your modem. If you have any other questions And, another ... We understand how hassle to do this upgrade. As far as benefit is concern it will help your connection perform much better. For the meantime, the only way that we can perform this upgrade is by connecting your modem to a Windows machine, and run the download on that machine. Once done, you can now connect using your MAC and receive the higher downlink speeds. BigPond is still finding its better solution on how we can establish such process on MAC users soon. In case you missed it, they are telling me that I have to borrow or otherwise acquire a different OS in order to update the equipment they sold me as a Mac user. Still seething, Vlad James -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Telstra cable broadband
For those using Telstra Cable Broadband, there is a general maintainable outage at the moment. Seemingly widespread. On their website, they are saying normal service will return at 15:00 today. I must have missed their heads up email alert letting their loyal customers know about the pending outage. For those with teenagers, you might see them appear from their bedroom for a change; sullen and with an air of slight desperation as their world has shut down. Tim Sent from my iPhone -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Telstra cable broadband
Oops My error The outage is for next week Maintenance event State: Western Australia Service:Broadband Cable Description:Some Broadband Cable services may be unavailable. Time start: 18-10-2012 10:00 Time end: 18-10-2012 15:00 Must be some other reason mine is not working this morning. My voice phone lines are crackling but that shouldn't affect the cable I would have thought. Tim Sent from my iPhone On 13/10/2012, at 9:12 AM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: For those using Telstra Cable Broadband, there is a general maintainable outage at the moment. Seemingly widespread. On their website, they are saying normal service will return at 15:00 today. I must have missed their heads up email alert letting their loyal customers know about the pending outage. For those with teenagers, you might see them appear from their bedroom for a change; sullen and with an air of slight desperation as their world has shut down. Tim Sent from my iPhone -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20121013/9a1e91d6/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
iPhone5 Plans/Caps with Telstra?
Hi WAMUGers Has anyone looked into the best way to get an iPhone5 and be with Telstra please? Your advice appreciated my iPhone 4 contract with Telstra is about to expire. I want to get an iPhone5, but must be with Telstra. 64GB It seems the cheapest is $77/ month. Has anyone looked into Telstra? It seems i cannot get the new iPhone on my existing Next G™ Cap Plan $49/month. Must be with Telstra (country coverage) 64 gb iPhone 5 $77/month Talk / MMS: $600 value Text: Unlimited Data: 1GB Currently I am on a Next G™ Cap Plan $49/month It seems this is not available for the iPhone 5. ta blitto Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam’s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.au The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20120921/a1dc864a/attachment.htm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1034 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20120921/a1dc864a/attachment.gif -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Telstra plan with iPhone 4S
Hi all Well I have my brand new iPhone 4S on a $59/month plan (plus $10/month for the 32gb phone). What a huge change from my old style phone,and a breath of fresh air. Go Apple! I love it and Im just learning how to use it!! A great chrissy present from me to me!! Merry Christmas to all and thanks again for your advice. Chris Christopher L.K. Burton Director Western Whale Research PO Box 1076 Dunsborough WA 6281 Mobile: 0419 199 120 Email: c...@it.net.au On 21/12/2011, at 5:09 PM, cm wrote: Hi Chris, As Eugene pointed out Telstra now unlocks phones for free which actually puts it ahead of Vodafone in serving that particular customer need. The storage capacity of the iPhone equates to disk space on a computer. In my opinion 16 GB is ample for most things. With a bit of judicious selection iTune one can have on hand sufficient songs, apps and films for a stint on a desert island. I currently I have a 32 GB phone but if my current usage patterns continue I will likely buy a 16 GB one when next I upgrade because the plans seem to be disproportionately better value for the smaller capacity. Here's a quote from a forum regarding an 8 GB iPhone (note this is about 8 GB not 16). I keep a fair amount of music and photos on my iphone in addition to movies. right now, i have 480 songs, 289 photos, 6 videos (2 of which are full-length movies), 368 contacts, and 8 years worth of calendar events on my iphone, and i still have 1.1GB of space available (on an 8GB iPhone). Cheers, Carlo Sent from my iPad On 21/12/2011, at 13:32, Eugene edeg...@helena.wa.edu.au wrote: Most telcos now have to offer a 2 year warranty as the phone has to be covered for the full length of the plan. If you bought straight from Apple you pay extra for that. Go with the plan plus $5 as the plan is subsidising the phone anyway. The old rule applies for phones as well as computers - buy as much memory/storage as you can afford. Telstra will unlock it if you ask - just say you're going over seas and need to insert a foreign sim card. They won't charge you. Once you contact telstra they will do the business at their end. Meanwhile you need to have backed up your phone at your end and then you do a rebuild from the image you just backed up - during this process iTunes contacts Apple store and (if Telstra has done its job) the code for unlocking is automatically downloaded along with the rebuild. You'll love the iPhone it is better than they say!! Regards, Eugene On 21/12/2011, at 2:19 PM, Chris Burton wrote: Good afternoon everyone I had a call from our friendly Telstra a few days ago reminding me that my Business Phone plan was about to expire tomorrow, and that I should sign up for another one!! Very nice of them I thought! After some calls to a Telstra phone business in Busselton and looking online it seems they have some reasonable Business Cap plans that come with phones. I need a 'Blue Tick' phone for rural use, and fortunately the iPhone 4S is Blue Tick accredited. I thought now is my time to get a real phone and finish my Apple Suite off with a 16gb 4S, and get rid of my old Telstra Tough unit. Some of the other 'Android' phones are Blue Tick, but I am keen on an iPhone. There is a catch: The 4S is NOT included in the plan, but requires payment of an extra $5/month over 24 months on a $59 Plan!! I have a few questions some you guys might be able to assist me with: Is it better value for me to purchase an iPhone first rather than have it included? The total 'payment price' on the plan = $120, which is way cheaper than buying outright. What is the catch here? The phone will be 'Locked', but I am assured it can be 'Unlocked' by phoning Telstra and then using iTunes (not sure how that works). Is a 16gb phone ok for most general use, rather than 32 or 64gb phone? Is there anything else that others can think of that I need to consider? Thankyou for any advice on this Kindest regards Chris Christopher L.K. Burton Director Western Whale Research PO Box 1076 Dunsborough WA 6281 Mobile: 0419 199 120 Email: c...@it.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http
Re: Telstra plan with iPhone 4S
Hi Chris, As Eugene pointed out Telstra now unlocks phones for free which actually puts it ahead of Vodafone in serving that particular customer need. The storage capacity of the iPhone equates to disk space on a computer. In my opinion 16 GB is ample for most things. With a bit of judicious selection iTune one can have on hand sufficient songs, apps and films for a stint on a desert island. I currently I have a 32 GB phone but if my current usage patterns continue I will likely buy a 16 GB one when next I upgrade because the plans seem to be disproportionately better value for the smaller capacity. Here's a quote from a forum regarding an 8 GB iPhone (note this is about 8 GB not 16). I keep a fair amount of music and photos on my iphone in addition to movies. right now, i have 480 songs, 289 photos, 6 videos (2 of which are full-length movies), 368 contacts, and 8 years worth of calendar events on my iphone, and i still have 1.1GB of space available (on an 8GB iPhone). Cheers, Carlo Sent from my iPad On 21/12/2011, at 13:32, Eugene edeg...@helena.wa.edu.au wrote: Most telcos now have to offer a 2 year warranty as the phone has to be covered for the full length of the plan. If you bought straight from Apple you pay extra for that. Go with the plan plus $5 as the plan is subsidising the phone anyway. The old rule applies for phones as well as computers - buy as much memory/storage as you can afford. Telstra will unlock it if you ask - just say you're going over seas and need to insert a foreign sim card. They won't charge you. Once you contact telstra they will do the business at their end. Meanwhile you need to have backed up your phone at your end and then you do a rebuild from the image you just backed up - during this process iTunes contacts Apple store and (if Telstra has done its job) the code for unlocking is automatically downloaded along with the rebuild. You'll love the iPhone it is better than they say!! Regards, Eugene On 21/12/2011, at 2:19 PM, Chris Burton wrote: Good afternoon everyone I had a call from our friendly Telstra a few days ago reminding me that my Business Phone plan was about to expire tomorrow, and that I should sign up for another one!! Very nice of them I thought! After some calls to a Telstra phone business in Busselton and looking online it seems they have some reasonable Business Cap plans that come with phones. I need a 'Blue Tick' phone for rural use, and fortunately the iPhone 4S is Blue Tick accredited. I thought now is my time to get a real phone and finish my Apple Suite off with a 16gb 4S, and get rid of my old Telstra Tough unit. Some of the other 'Android' phones are Blue Tick, but I am keen on an iPhone. There is a catch: The 4S is NOT included in the plan, but requires payment of an extra $5/month over 24 months on a $59 Plan!! I have a few questions some you guys might be able to assist me with: Is it better value for me to purchase an iPhone first rather than have it included? The total 'payment price' on the plan = $120, which is way cheaper than buying outright. What is the catch here? The phone will be 'Locked', but I am assured it can be 'Unlocked' by phoning Telstra and then using iTunes (not sure how that works). Is a 16gb phone ok for most general use, rather than 32 or 64gb phone? Is there anything else that others can think of that I need to consider? Thankyou for any advice on this Kindest regards Chris Christopher L.K. Burton Director Western Whale Research PO Box 1076 Dunsborough WA 6281 Mobile: 0419 199 120 Email: c...@it.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Telstra plan with iPhone 4S
Good afternoon everyone I had a call from our friendly Telstra a few days ago reminding me that my Business Phone plan was about to expire tomorrow, and that I should sign up for another one!! Very nice of them I thought! After some calls to a Telstra phone business in Busselton and looking online it seems they have some reasonable Business Cap plans that come with phones. I need a 'Blue Tick' phone for rural use, and fortunately the iPhone 4S is Blue Tick accredited. I thought now is my time to get a real phone and finish my Apple Suite off with a 16gb 4S, and get rid of my old Telstra Tough unit. Some of the other 'Android' phones are Blue Tick, but I am keen on an iPhone. There is a catch: The 4S is NOT included in the plan, but requires payment of an extra $5/month over 24 months on a $59 Plan!! I have a few questions some you guys might be able to assist me with: Is it better value for me to purchase an iPhone first rather than have it included? The total 'payment price' on the plan = $120, which is way cheaper than buying outright. What is the catch here? The phone will be 'Locked', but I am assured it can be 'Unlocked' by phoning Telstra and then using iTunes (not sure how that works). Is a 16gb phone ok for most general use, rather than 32 or 64gb phone? Is there anything else that others can think of that I need to consider? Thankyou for any advice on this Kindest regards Chris Christopher L.K. Burton Director Western Whale Research PO Box 1076 Dunsborough WA 6281 Mobile: 0419 199 120 Email: c...@it.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Telstra plan with iPhone 4S
Hi Chris, I dont use my phone for a business, but I purchased my iPhone outright and got a $30 pre paid. which, with bonuses, gives me a $250 of calls and 500mb of data which I have never been able to exhaust. I have ditched using the land-line and effectively more than halved my phone costs. I feel sure you will find a pre-paid that will do the same for you. Besides that I can tell Telstra to shove it any time I feel inclined. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 21/12/2011, at 2:19 PM, Chris Burton wrote: Good afternoon everyone I had a call from our friendly Telstra a few days ago reminding me that my Business Phone plan was about to expire tomorrow, and that I should sign up for another one!! Very nice of them I thought! After some calls to a Telstra phone business in Busselton and looking online it seems they have some reasonable Business Cap plans that come with phones. I need a 'Blue Tick' phone for rural use, and fortunately the iPhone 4S is Blue Tick accredited. I thought now is my time to get a real phone and finish my Apple Suite off with a 16gb 4S, and get rid of my old Telstra Tough unit. Some of the other 'Android' phones are Blue Tick, but I am keen on an iPhone. There is a catch: The 4S is NOT included in the plan, but requires payment of an extra $5/month over 24 months on a $59 Plan!! I have a few questions some you guys might be able to assist me with: Is it better value for me to purchase an iPhone first rather than have it included? The total 'payment price' on the plan = $120, which is way cheaper than buying outright. What is the catch here? The phone will be 'Locked', but I am assured it can be 'Unlocked' by phoning Telstra and then using iTunes (not sure how that works). Is a 16gb phone ok for most general use, rather than 32 or 64gb phone? Is there anything else that others can think of that I need to consider? Thankyou for any advice on this Kindest regards Chris Christopher L.K. Burton Director Western Whale Research PO Box 1076 Dunsborough WA 6281 Mobile: 0419 199 120 Email: c...@it.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Telstra plan with iPhone 4S
Most telcos now have to offer a 2 year warranty as the phone has to be covered for the full length of the plan. If you bought straight from Apple you pay extra for that. Go with the plan plus $5 as the plan is subsidising the phone anyway. The old rule applies for phones as well as computers - buy as much memory/storage as you can afford. Telstra will unlock it if you ask - just say you're going over seas and need to insert a foreign sim card. They won't charge you. Once you contact telstra they will do the business at their end. Meanwhile you need to have backed up your phone at your end and then you do a rebuild from the image you just backed up - during this process iTunes contacts Apple store and (if Telstra has done its job) the code for unlocking is automatically downloaded along with the rebuild. You'll love the iPhone it is better than they say!! Regards, Eugene On 21/12/2011, at 2:19 PM, Chris Burton wrote: Good afternoon everyone I had a call from our friendly Telstra a few days ago reminding me that my Business Phone plan was about to expire tomorrow, and that I should sign up for another one!! Very nice of them I thought! After some calls to a Telstra phone business in Busselton and looking online it seems they have some reasonable Business Cap plans that come with phones. I need a 'Blue Tick' phone for rural use, and fortunately the iPhone 4S is Blue Tick accredited. I thought now is my time to get a real phone and finish my Apple Suite off with a 16gb 4S, and get rid of my old Telstra Tough unit. Some of the other 'Android' phones are Blue Tick, but I am keen on an iPhone. There is a catch: The 4S is NOT included in the plan, but requires payment of an extra $5/month over 24 months on a $59 Plan!! I have a few questions some you guys might be able to assist me with: Is it better value for me to purchase an iPhone first rather than have it included? The total 'payment price' on the plan = $120, which is way cheaper than buying outright. What is the catch here? The phone will be 'Locked', but I am assured it can be 'Unlocked' by phoning Telstra and then using iTunes (not sure how that works). Is a 16gb phone ok for most general use, rather than 32 or 64gb phone? Is there anything else that others can think of that I need to consider? Thankyou for any advice on this Kindest regards Chris Christopher L.K. Burton Director Western Whale Research PO Box 1076 Dunsborough WA 6281 Mobile: 0419 199 120 Email: c...@it.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Telstra + ZTE
Here's a little Anti MAC annoyance: The Telstra T2 grunge model phone service will be off line today for a system upgrade. Walk through the software upgrade Windows ONLY. Rang the help line- Melbourne Cup! Telstra shop might be able to help. Bill ( sans iPhone) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet
No need to apologise :) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet
So if I agree with Matt's Ridiculous viewpoint is that bad? ;) The irony in this threat is quite galling. I cannot imagine the kind of complaints it may have 'contracted'. That is because I likely have a very different viewpoint. Different viewpoint, not bad viewpoint. Or offensive, or in contravention of any group guidelines? Just sensibilities? -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet
I certainly think that censorship of the internet is a completely relevant topic. Censorship might of been in place for generations on books, films and songs but it hasn't been in place (for most countries, including Australia) at all yet for the internet and should it be implemented it's certainly not going to be fair with a transparent and publicly accessible list for people to make their own evaluations. Ruben Hi all, I personally would like to see a more measured level of discussion on the WAMUG site. It would be unfortunate if a persons who visits the site looking for technical knowledge is driven away by fear of a heated political debate. There are many other places on the internet where we can get our fill of that. Censorship has be in place on books, films, and songs for generations in most modern democracies, and providing there is a publicly accessible, transparent list of what has been censored there will always be groups fighting vigorously to have the censorship dropped. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-07-08, at 10:00, Matthew Healey wrote: Hi Rob, Don't confuse filtering with censoring. I can choose not to use SPAM filters or Virus Scanners. That's the difference. As Ronni mentioned, the problem is that once the infrastructure is in place to block web sites at will, then those in power will use that ability to their advantage. These sorts of things are ALWAYS pushed though with some sort of boogie-man, be it communism, terrorism, national security or Won't someone please think of the children!!. It's just a convenient scapegoat. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet
I've always been mindful that this is a Mac user group, and any computer query that I have that is not specifically Mac related, I do not post here. Whirlpool for example is a much more appropriate forum for broader policy discussion such as this. http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/ Tim On 09/07/2011, at 3:19 PM, Dark1 wrote: I certainly think that censorship of the internet is a completely relevant topic. Censorship might of been in place for generations on books, films and songs but it hasn't been in place (for most countries, including Australia) at all yet for the internet and should it be implemented it's certainly not going to be fair with a transparent and publicly accessible list for people to make their own evaluations. Ruben Hi all, I personally would like to see a more measured level of discussion on the WAMUG site. It would be unfortunate if a persons who visits the site looking for technical knowledge is driven away by fear of a heated political debate. There are many other places on the internet where we can get our fill of that. Censorship has be in place on books, films, and songs for generations in most modern democracies, and providing there is a publicly accessible, transparent list of what has been censored there will always be groups fighting vigorously to have the censorship dropped. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-07-08, at 10:00, Matthew Healey wrote: Hi Rob, Don't confuse filtering with censoring. I can choose not to use SPAM filters or Virus Scanners. That's the difference. As Ronni mentioned, the problem is that once the infrastructure is in place to block web sites at will, then those in power will use that ability to their advantage. These sorts of things are ALWAYS pushed though with some sort of boogie-man, be it communism, terrorism, national security or Won't someone please think of the children!!. It's just a convenient scapegoat. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet
That depends entirely on what sort of internet connection I buy. Sure if I use one of those 3G wireless sticks then yes, my connection is being NAT'd. If I buy a business internet account then I can get a nice little /16 with a fully routed connection. If I buy a fibre connection from Amcom they give me a glass pair and ask me what I want to plug it in to. In all three scenarios I have a choice. What's next… making VPN's and encryption illegal? On 08/07/2011, at 7:52 PM, Rob Davies wrote: Hi Matthew, I would hate to burst your bubble, but if you are connecting via PPoE, you connection is being NAT'd, monitored and filtered. This is in response to peoples lack of understanding of how networks function, do you think ISP's will give people access without some form of control. Just plugging a router, ADSL Modem into any PPoE connection and watch the amount of traffic attempting access. What and whom do you think is stopping most of it getting into your system. If you do not see any then it definitely is being controlled. I am totally surprised everyday the amount of routers which are connected without some form of firewall in place. This is business and private usage, and yes a firewall is not the only answer. But, it is a start. Cheers! `RobD... On 08Jul2011 at 10:00 am, Matthew Healey wrote: , Hi Rob, Don't confuse filtering with censoring. I can choose not to use SPAM filters or Virus Scanners. That's the difference. As Ronni mentioned, the problem is that once the infrastructure is in place to block web sites at will, then those in power will use that ability to their advantage. These sorts of things are ALWAYS pushed though with some sort of boogie-man, be it communism, terrorism, national security or Won't someone please think of the children!!. It's just a convenient scapegoat. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet
Morning All, This post is contracting some complaints, and Matthews response with due Respect is Ridiculous. So, I have responded of list to Matthew and apologise to WAMUG. Cheers! `RobD... On 09Jul2011, at 10:37 pm, Matthew Healey wrote: That depends entirely on what sort of internet connection I buy. Sure if I use one of those 3G wireless sticks then yes, my connection is being NAT'd. If I buy a business internet account then I can get a nice little /16 with a fully routed connection. If I buy a fibre connection from Amcom they give me a glass pair and ask me what I want to plug it in to. In all three scenarios I have a choice. What's next… making VPN's and encryption illegal? On 08/07/2011, at 7:52 PM, Rob Davies wrote: Hi Matthew, I would hate to burst your bubble, but if you are connecting via PPoE, you connection is being NAT'd, monitored and filtered. This is in response to peoples lack of understanding of how networks function, do you think ISP's will give people access without some form of control. Just plugging a router, ADSL Modem into any PPoE connection and watch the amount of traffic attempting access. What and whom do you think is stopping most of it getting into your system. If you do not see any then it definitely is being controlled. I am totally surprised everyday the amount of routers which are connected without some form of firewall in place. This is business and private usage, and yes a firewall is not the only answer. But, it is a start. Cheers! `RobD... On 08Jul2011 at 10:00 am, Matthew Healey wrote: , Hi Rob, Don't confuse filtering with censoring. I can choose not to use SPAM filters or Virus Scanners. That's the difference. As Ronni mentioned, the problem is that once the infrastructure is in place to block web sites at will, then those in power will use that ability to their advantage. These sorts of things are ALWAYS pushed though with some sort of boogie-man, be it communism, terrorism, national security or Won't someone please think of the children!!. It's just a convenient scapegoat. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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Hi Matthew, I would hate to burst your bubble, but if you are connecting via PPoE, you connection is being NAT'd, monitored and filtered. This is in response to peoples lack of understanding of how networks function, do you think ISP's will give people access without some form of control. Just plugging a router, ADSL Modem into any PPoE connection and watch the amount of traffic attempting access. What and whom do you think is stopping most of it getting into your system. If you do not see any then it definitely is being controlled. I am totally surprised everyday the amount of routers which are connected without some form of firewall in place. This is business and private usage, and yes a firewall is not the only answer. But, it is a start. Cheers! `RobD... On 08Jul2011 at 10:00 am, Matthew Healey wrote: , Hi Rob, Don't confuse filtering with censoring. I can choose not to use SPAM filters or Virus Scanners. That's the difference. As Ronni mentioned, the problem is that once the infrastructure is in place to block web sites at will, then those in power will use that ability to their advantage. These sorts of things are ALWAYS pushed though with some sort of boogie-man, be it communism, terrorism, national security or Won't someone please think of the children!!. It's just a convenient scapegoat. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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On 06/07/2011, at 11:00 AM, Neil Houghton wrote: Yes, I have to agree. I have used OpenDNS for quite some time now – started when there was a DNS security scare some time ago – the scare soon came went as the ISPs got on top of it but I left it set up with open DNS anyway. It occasionally refuses to load some sites which are on some phishing/scam type blacklists and offers some tools when sites refuse to load. OpenDNS is a great tool, as I Google DNS. But using a server other than your ISP's breaks content delivery networks quite badly. As an example, I was downloading something large from a special Akamai-hosted Apple server and was only getting about 200Kbs. This is FAR below was I would normally expect from a server that is sitting someone on the iINet network. The problem was that a few days prior I had hard-coded my DNS server to Google (8.8.8.8) to do some tests. Once I realised this, I returned my DNS to the appropriate setting and my download came through at about 5Mbs. So that's the catch for Telstra/Optus customers now. Use Telstra/Optus DNS and have your connection politically censored or use third part DNS and receive a sub-par service when viewing anything on a content delivery network. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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Hi Matt, While I am not in favour censoring, we as yet have no indication at all that Telstra will do anything other than block child porn sites -- which to me isn't a bad thing. The worst case scenario is that some corrupt official manages to gain control of this process and by some as yet unexplained process turns this to his / her advantage by blocking sites that contain negative comments about them. If they are in the news they would have to block many of the major news sites as well such as the ABC. I think it may be reaching somewhat to suggest that there is political censoring unless you are referring to the blocking of porn sites. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-07-07, at 14:54, Matthew Healey wrote: On 06/07/2011, at 11:00 AM, Neil Houghton wrote: Yes, I have to agree. I have used OpenDNS for quite some time now – started when there was a DNS security scare some time ago – the scare soon came went as the ISPs got on top of it but I left it set up with open DNS anyway. It occasionally refuses to load some sites which are on some phishing/scam type blacklists and offers some tools when sites refuse to load. OpenDNS is a great tool, as I Google DNS. But using a server other than your ISP's breaks content delivery networks quite badly. As an example, I was downloading something large from a special Akamai-hosted Apple server and was only getting about 200Kbs. This is FAR below was I would normally expect from a server that is sitting someone on the iINet network. The problem was that a few days prior I had hard-coded my DNS server to Google (8.8.8.8) to do some tests. Once I realised this, I returned my DNS to the appropriate setting and my download came through at about 5Mbs. So that's the catch for Telstra/Optus customers now. Use Telstra/Optus DNS and have your connection politically censored or use third part DNS and receive a sub-par service when viewing anything on a content delivery network. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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I don't know about Google DNS - never tried it - but I have had the OpenDNS servers set as the DNS servers in my Billion router for a couple of years (at least) now and have noticed NO slowdown whatsoever. I didn't bother with setting up an Open DNS account - I just use their DNS servers. I also note that they claim: Websites will load faster, and with OpenDNS' 100% up-time, you won't have to worry about unreachable websites and DNS outages from your ISP. Since this is their primary business, I would imagine OpenDNS work haard to avoid the sort of problems you describe? Also, it's somewhat ironic that they are identified as one way to beat Telstra's filter - one of the things they DO offer is: Robust Web content filtering With over 50 customizable filtering categories, OpenDNS Web content filtering keeps employees productive at work, and keeps parents and teachers in control of what websites children visit at home and at school. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 7/7/11 2:54 PM, Matthew Healey at mat...@mac.com wrote: On 06/07/2011, at 11:00 AM, Neil Houghton wrote: Yes, I have to agree. I have used OpenDNS for quite some time now started when there was a DNS security scare some time ago the scare soon came went as the ISPs got on top of it but I left it set up with open DNS anyway. It occasionally refuses to load some sites which are on some phishing/scam type blacklists and offers some tools when sites refuse to load. OpenDNS is a great tool, as I Google DNS. But using a server other than your ISP's breaks content delivery networks quite badly. As an example, I was downloading something large from a special Akamai-hosted Apple server and was only getting about 200Kbs. This is FAR below was I would normally expect from a server that is sitting someone on the iINet network. The problem was that a few days prior I had hard-coded my DNS server to Google (8.8.8.8) to do some tests. Once I realised this, I returned my DNS to the appropriate setting and my download came through at about 5Mbs. So that's the catch for Telstra/Optus customers now. Use Telstra/Optus DNS and have your connection politically censored or use third part DNS and receive a sub-par service when viewing anything on a content delivery network. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Matt, While I am not in favour censoring, we as yet have no indication at all that Telstra will do anything other than block child porn sites -- which to me isn't a bad thing. The worst case scenario is that some corrupt official manages to gain control of this process and by some as yet unexplained process turns this to his / her advantage by blocking sites that contain negative comments about them. If they are in the news they would have to block many of the major news sites as well such as the ABC. I think it may be reaching somewhat to suggest that there is political censoring unless you are referring to the blocking of porn sites. Cheers, Carlo Hi Carlo, As I read it, the general fear in many cases like this is that when given an inch people take a mile. Folk are concerned that later on it's scope could be broadened to other areas deemed unsavory by the regulators. One of history's lessons already learned by now I would have thought. No thanks little brother. I don't know how to stop child porn but I doubt if this does the job. Cheers Paul -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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On 07/07/2011, at 4:52 PM, Paul K wrote: On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Matt, While I am not in favour censoring, we as yet have no indication at all that Telstra will do anything other than block child porn sites -- which to me isn't a bad thing. The worst case scenario is that some corrupt official manages to gain control of this process and by some as yet unexplained process turns this to his / her advantage by blocking sites that contain negative comments about them. If they are in the news they would have to block many of the major news sites as well such as the ABC. I think it may be reaching somewhat to suggest that there is political censoring unless you are referring to the blocking of porn sites. Cheers, Carlo Hi Carlo, As I read it, the general fear in many cases like this is that when given an inch people take a mile. Folk are concerned that later on it's scope could be broadened to other areas deemed unsavory by the regulators. One of history's lessons already learned by now I would have thought. No thanks little brother. I don't know how to stop child porn but I doubt if this does the job. Cheers Paul I agree Paul, Once they start censoring there is no stopping what they will censor and eventually we ‘might’ end up with something similar to the “Great Firewall Of China” (China’s misguided and futile attempt to control what happens online! I would love to see Child Pornography completely stopped, but Censoring the Internet will not stop Child Pornography? One Article in the National Times here: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/internet-filter-will-not-stop-child-porn-peddlers-20091217-kzfy.html /Quote: It is ironic that at the very point where Australia seeks recognition as a world leader in its vision for a National Broadband Network it may also gain censure as legitimating a range of repressive policies pursued by some of the globe's least accountable governments. Further, given that the filter will categorise and block websites, but not other ways of communicating digitally, the highly illegal and abhorrent activities of those who peddle images of child sexual abuse are likely to continue with little additional inconvenience.” /End Quote Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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Evening, If you are a Telstra customer and connected by such you are being filtered. DNS as Ronni has stated before is to change an IP address into english, a URL. Most sites they are chasing are IP based, so the filtering will be done before it reaches DNS servers. OpenDNS servers are based within US, and yes your free downloads and other ISP benefits could be adjusted, or blocked. But again most of these will be allocated by IP, so it could be a mute reasoning. Personally, being in networking less traffic is a better solution, cost and performance. Also as I have published you can improve your DNS, but there are consequences. It is a small cog in a massive wheel which people take for granted, and are unsure, or just expect to work without knowing consequences. Why do you think SPAM and Phishing attacks are successful. ISP's have been filtering some of the net already (Virus scanning, SPAM filtering, Content Filtering), due to above reasoning. Cheers! `RobD... On 07Jul2011, at 5:17 pm, Ronda Brown wrote: On 07/07/2011, at 4:52 PM, Paul K wrote: On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Matt, While I am not in favour censoring, we as yet have no indication at all that Telstra will do anything other than block child porn sites -- which to me isn't a bad thing. The worst case scenario is that some corrupt official manages to gain control of this process and by some as yet unexplained process turns this to his / her advantage by blocking sites that contain negative comments about them. If they are in the news they would have to block many of the major news sites as well such as the ABC. I think it may be reaching somewhat to suggest that there is political censoring unless you are referring to the blocking of porn sites. Cheers, Carlo Hi Carlo, As I read it, the general fear in many cases like this is that when given an inch people take a mile. Folk are concerned that later on it's scope could be broadened to other areas deemed unsavory by the regulators. One of history's lessons already learned by now I would have thought. No thanks little brother. I don't know how to stop child porn but I doubt if this does the job. Cheers Paul I agree Paul, Once they start censoring there is no stopping what they will censor and eventually we ‘might’ end up with something similar to the “Great Firewall Of China” (China’s misguided and futile attempt to control what happens online! I would love to see Child Pornography completely stopped, but Censoring the Internet will not stop Child Pornography? One Article in the National Times here: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/internet-filter-will-not-stop-child-porn-peddlers-20091217-kzfy.html /Quote: It is ironic that at the very point where Australia seeks recognition as a world leader in its vision for a National Broadband Network it may also gain censure as legitimating a range of repressive policies pursued by some of the globe's least accountable governments. Further, given that the filter will categorise and block websites, but not other ways of communicating digitally, the highly illegal and abhorrent activities of those who peddle images of child sexual abuse are likely to continue with little additional inconvenience.” /End Quote Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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Hi Rob, Don't confuse filtering with censoring. I can choose not to use SPAM filters or Virus Scanners. That's the difference. As Ronni mentioned, the problem is that once the infrastructure is in place to block web sites at will, then those in power will use that ability to their advantage. These sorts of things are ALWAYS pushed though with some sort of boogie-man, be it communism, terrorism, national security or Won't someone please think of the children!!. It's just a convenient scapegoat. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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Hi all, I personally would like to see a more measured level of discussion on the WAMUG site. It would be unfortunate if a persons who visits the site looking for technical knowledge is driven away by fear of a heated political debate. There are many other places on the internet where we can get our fill of that. Censorship has be in place on books, films, and songs for generations in most modern democracies, and providing there is a publicly accessible, transparent list of what has been censored there will always be groups fighting vigorously to have the censorship dropped. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-07-08, at 10:00, Matthew Healey wrote: Hi Rob, Don't confuse filtering with censoring. I can choose not to use SPAM filters or Virus Scanners. That's the difference. As Ronni mentioned, the problem is that once the infrastructure is in place to block web sites at will, then those in power will use that ability to their advantage. These sorts of things are ALWAYS pushed though with some sort of boogie-man, be it communism, terrorism, national security or Won't someone please think of the children!!. It's just a convenient scapegoat. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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Hi, Political opinions when they relate to information technology issues too? Cheers Paul -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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This is a technology forum and I am open to any discussion that informs me of matters that may effect me.I applaud balanced, educated opinions related to technology even if they're political issues like National Broadband. How else will I keep informed without being influenced by our biased media? As the heading of this thread suggests Telstra is making decisions which will effect us and this is politically motivated - I do want to know about this and I do appreciated the very educated opinion of the WAMUG community.Let us not quash healthy open technology related discussion, if we start drawing lines on what can be discussed and what can't be discussed we might threaten the colour of this very valuable forum. How bland if WAMUG simply becomes a venue littered with threads on how to eject stuck DVDs. Regards, Eugene On 06/07/2011, at 9:16 AM, Paul K wrote:Hi,Political opinions when they relate to information technology issues too?CheersPaul --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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OMG Some people would say *simply *owning an apple mac computer is a political statement just try making fun of a PC based user with ''so youre using the dark side?'' and see how some take the bait some dont I would strongly suggest if anyone feels that comic or sarcastic asides about systems, providers, and software *dosnt* involve an element of politics, then there is a serious issue more in* that *perception... cheers Tom H On 6 July 2011 09:16, Paul K logry...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Political opinions when they relate to information technology issues too? Cheers Paul -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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Yes, I have to agree. I have used OpenDNS for quite some time now started when there was a DNS security scare some time ago the scare soon came went as the ISPs got on top of it but I left it set up with open DNS anyway. It occasionally refuses to load some sites which are on some phishing/scam type blacklists and offers some tools when sites refuse to load. OpenDNS has been mentioned several times on this list in fact, I think that is how I first learned of it. Anyway, the point is, it has been offering various quite legitimate services/feature for quite some time and I am a happy user. So now we have the filter, it is apparently trivial to bypass it by using a service like Open DNS. This fact ha been publicised by opponents/critics of the filter. So now we get articles like this on SMH: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/telstra-optus-net-filters- trivial-to-bypass-20110705-1h02i.html An internet filter designed to block access to child pornography, which is being imposed on Optus and Telstra customers, is trivial to bypass, say civil libertarians. And then It was a pretty big decision to take if a person who really wanted to access child pornography circumvented a filter, he said. You can bypass these [filters] just as you can hotwire a car to steal it or force entry into a home, he said. But at that point you're departing from the normal social behaviours and entering the criminal world. I just wonder what the point of that exercise would be. So, apparently, by using OpenDNS (as I have been doing for several years) I am hot-wiring the internet and departing from the normal social behaviours and entering the criminal world - and I would only be doing that to to access child pornography or for some other nefarious purpose!!! I find it particularly disturbing that the above quote, by the way, is attributed to Spokesman for the Internet Industry Association (IIA), Peter Coroneos. So I have to agree with Paul. I think that is a technology issue that concerns us all as internet users, regardless of your personal political opinions. Unfortunately, whilst the technology issue itself crosses the political divide, when you start seeing quotes like thee one above, you can be sure that politic isn't far away :o( Just my apolitical 2c worth. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 6/7/11 9:16 AM, Paul K at logry...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Political opinions when they relate to information technology issues too? Cheers Paul -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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Is the WAMUG mailing list really the appropriate place to express political opinions? I would prefer to see them left out. Regards, Jennifer On 4 July 2011 08:18, Paul K logry...@gmail.com wrote: Groovy, policy through magic. What is this, Hogwarts? -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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This is the payoff for winning the NBN contract. You'll note that Internode, who was very vocal in opposition to the filter, has been all but shut out of the NBN. Conroy needs the Family First loonies to support Labor to retain government. This is what it cost. On 03/07/2011, at 11:13 AM, Paul K wrote: Different to the Govt.'s filter? I agree with you Matt. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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Telstra starts censoring the internet
http://delimiter.com.au/2011/07/01/telstras-interpol-filter-goes-live/ Apparently Telstra is now censoring the connections of it's customers. Initially they appear to be doing it under the guise of child pornography, but I would expect them to start widening that fairly soon. Stephen Conroy must be wetting himself with joy. Don't be surprised if you can no longer access your favourite site that points out how completely incompetent and corrupt our politicians are. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet
Different to the Govt.'s filter? I agree with you Matt. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra Mentor for Iphone
Good advice, thanks Glenn. Sometimes though it seems such a hassle to double check everything and everyone! Especially when we can usually find someone at the WAMUG site who knows something about nearly everythingThis personal touch means so much more somehow. Peta On 14/01/2011, at 12:55 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote: The web page clearly shows Telstra has this programme in place, and they do say Our Telstra Mentor service gives you expert advice on how to get the most out of your new Next G™ handset in a complimentary, personalised one hour session. So it seems the 1 hour session should be free. Even though this session seems legitimate, I think Telstra has set things up to invite abuse at some point in the future. Someone could easily call up pretending to be a Telstra mentor, answer some questions to build trust and then try for confidential info - perhaps asking for login details or potentially credit card details. Social engineering is a popular way of getting people to part with confidential information - it makes it easier for scammers if corporations teach their customers to trust unsolicited calls. With identity theft such a major problem, if someone calls you out of the blue and you have no way of knowing who they are, if it comes to the point where they want you to disclose information you should ask how to reach them via a company phone number you can check out independently. For example, on the Telstra Mentor site they include For more information on Telstra Mentor please call 1300 783 343. So if you did get a call from a Mentor and they did ask you for any information (email address included), maybe it would be better to call the mentor back via that number. Glenn Nicholas On 14 January 2011 09:42, peta petabelczow...@mac.com wrote: Good morning WAMUG, I received an unsolicited call on my mobile phone yesterday, from a gentleman who identified himself as a Telstra mentor for iPhones. Nowadays we feel uneasy about the possibility of scams, and so although this seemed to be legitimate and probably is, I have not heard of a Telstra mentor from anyone. Yes, we do not want to be paranoid, but He asked me for my email address, which I did give to him, and he offered to help me with any problems that I may be having with the new phone. I explained that it was not a good time for me just then so we ended the call. He sent me an email shortly after this. The email tells me how to check the data usage on my iPhone. He also gave me instructions on how to make the phone ring longer. Just now, as he had also told me would happen, I received a text message - which I am meant to respond to rating his helpfulness. Has anyone else had such a phone call or is this perhaps a scam? Hopefully not! Looking forward to comments from the WAMUG group! Peta -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Telstra Mentor for Iphone
Good morning WAMUG, I received an unsolicited call on my mobile phone yesterday, from a gentleman who identified himself as a Telstra mentor for iPhones. Nowadays we feel uneasy about the possibility of scams, and so although this seemed to be legitimate and probably is, I have not heard of a Telstra mentor from anyone. Yes, we do not want to be paranoid, but He asked me for my email address, which I did give to him, and he offered to help me with any problems that I may be having with the new phone. I explained that it was not a good time for me just then so we ended the call. He sent me an email shortly after this. The email tells me how to check the data usage on my iPhone. He also gave me instructions on how to make the phone ring longer. Just now, as he had also told me would happen, I received a text message - which I am meant to respond to rating his helpfulness. Has anyone else had such a phone call or is this perhaps a scam? Hopefully not! Looking forward to comments from the WAMUG group! Peta -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra Mentor for Iphone
Hi Peta, Good to be very careful about this sort of phone call. Apparently it is genuine. I have never received one and had not heard of it. Be cautious of the cost though! http://www.telstra.com.au/telstramentor/index.html What is Telstra Mentor? A Telstra Mentor expert can help take away the frustration of getting your new mobile up and running. You'll also be shown handy shortcuts and how to master mobile features like email and internet, giving you the mobile tools to save time and be more productive. How can Telstra Mentor benefit me? We’ll contact you and book a time to show you how you can: • sync your PC calendar and contacts with your mobile • set up and use mobile email • access mobile internet • use your handset as a mobile modem • access Next G™ content like Whereis® mobile, Yellow™ mobile, FOXTEL from Telstra and much more. Who can use Telstra Mentor? This program is available to eligible Telstra customers who take out a plan and eligible handset with a monthly access fee of $79 or above. It is provided by our partners Mobile Mentor and is available throughout Australia. You could be eligible for a face to face or over the phone mentor session depending on your location. Cheers, Ronni On 14/01/2011, at 9:42 AM, peta wrote: Good morning WAMUG, I received an unsolicited call on my mobile phone yesterday, from a gentleman who identified himself as a Telstra mentor for iPhones. Nowadays we feel uneasy about the possibility of scams, and so although this seemed to be legitimate and probably is, I have not heard of a Telstra mentor from anyone. Yes, we do not want to be paranoid, but He asked me for my email address, which I did give to him, and he offered to help me with any problems that I may be having with the new phone. I explained that it was not a good time for me just then so we ended the call. He sent me an email shortly after this. The email tells me how to check the data usage on my iPhone. He also gave me instructions on how to make the phone ring longer. Just now, as he had also told me would happen, I received a text message - which I am meant to respond to rating his helpfulness. Has anyone else had such a phone call or is this perhaps a scam? Hopefully not! Looking forward to comments from the WAMUG group! Peta -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra Mentor for Iphone
Why not phone Telstra and ask if they have mentors DickA On 14/01/2011, at 9:42 AM, peta wrote: Good morning WAMUG, I received an unsolicited call on my mobile phone yesterday, from a gentleman who identified himself as a Telstra mentor for iPhones. Nowadays we feel uneasy about the possibility of scams, and so although this seemed to be legitimate and probably is, I have not heard of a Telstra mentor from anyone. Yes, we do not want to be paranoid, but He asked me for my email address, which I did give to him, and he offered to help me with any problems that I may be having with the new phone. I explained that it was not a good time for me just then so we ended the call. He sent me an email shortly after this. The email tells me how to check the data usage on my iPhone. He also gave me instructions on how to make the phone ring longer. Just now, as he had also told me would happen, I received a text message - which I am meant to respond to rating his helpfulness. Has anyone else had such a phone call or is this perhaps a scam? Hopefully not! Looking forward to comments from the WAMUG group! Peta -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au R. A. Anderson. 65 Dalkeith Rd., Nedlands, W.A. 6009 (08) 9386 4405 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra Mentor for Iphone
Thanks for this Ronni. While it is good to know this is not a scam, I am still puzzled why me?. Other family members and friends who have purchased iPhone 4's recently have not had any such approach. Again, thank you for such a prompt response. Have a great weekend, Peta On 14/01/2011, at 9:55 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Peta, Good to be very careful about this sort of phone call. Apparently it is genuine. I have never received one and had not heard of it. Be cautious of the cost though! http://www.telstra.com.au/telstramentor/index.html What is Telstra Mentor? A Telstra Mentor expert can help take away the frustration of getting your new mobile up and running. You'll also be shown handy shortcuts and how to master mobile features like email and internet, giving you the mobile tools to save time and be more productive. How can Telstra Mentor benefit me? We’ll contact you and book a time to show you how you can: • sync your PC calendar and contacts with your mobile • set up and use mobile email • access mobile internet • use your handset as a mobile modem • access Next G™ content like Whereis® mobile, Yellow™ mobile, FOXTEL from Telstra and much more. Who can use Telstra Mentor? This program is available to eligible Telstra customers who take out a plan and eligible handset with a monthly access fee of $79 or above. It is provided by our partners Mobile Mentor and is available throughout Australia. You could be eligible for a face to face or over the phone mentor session depending on your location. Cheers, Ronni On 14/01/2011, at 9:42 AM, peta wrote: Good morning WAMUG, I received an unsolicited call on my mobile phone yesterday, from a gentleman who identified himself as a Telstra mentor for iPhones. Nowadays we feel uneasy about the possibility of scams, and so although this seemed to be legitimate and probably is, I have not heard of a Telstra mentor from anyone. Yes, we do not want to be paranoid, but He asked me for my email address, which I did give to him, and he offered to help me with any problems that I may be having with the new phone. I explained that it was not a good time for me just then so we ended the call. He sent me an email shortly after this. The email tells me how to check the data usage on my iPhone. He also gave me instructions on how to make the phone ring longer. Just now, as he had also told me would happen, I received a text message - which I am meant to respond to rating his helpfulness. Has anyone else had such a phone call or is this perhaps a scam? Hopefully not! Looking forward to comments from the WAMUG group! Peta -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra Mentor for Iphone
The web page clearly shows Telstra has this programme in place, and they do say Our Telstra Mentor service gives you expert advice on how to get the most out of your new Next G™ handset in a complimentary, personalised one hour session. So it seems the 1 hour session should be free. Even though this session seems legitimate, I think Telstra has set things up to invite abuse at some point in the future. Someone could easily call up pretending to be a Telstra mentor, answer some questions to build trust and then try for confidential info - perhaps asking for login details or potentially credit card details. Social engineering is a popular way of getting people to part with confidential information - it makes it easier for scammers if corporations teach their customers to trust unsolicited calls. With identity theft such a major problem, if someone calls you out of the blue and you have no way of knowing who they are, if it comes to the point where they want you to disclose information you should ask how to reach them via a company phone number you can check out independently. For example, on the Telstra Mentor site they include For more information on Telstra Mentor please call 1300 783 343. So if you did get a call from a Mentor and they did ask you for any information (email address included), maybe it would be better to call the mentor back via that number. Glenn Nicholas On 14 January 2011 09:42, peta petabelczow...@mac.com wrote: Good morning WAMUG, I received an unsolicited call on my mobile phone yesterday, from a gentleman who identified himself as a Telstra mentor for iPhones. Nowadays we feel uneasy about the possibility of scams, and so although this seemed to be legitimate and probably is, I have not heard of a Telstra mentor from anyone. Yes, we do not want to be paranoid, but He asked me for my email address, which I did give to him, and he offered to help me with any problems that I may be having with the new phone. I explained that it was not a good time for me just then so we ended the call. He sent me an email shortly after this. The email tells me how to check the data usage on my iPhone. He also gave me instructions on how to make the phone ring longer. Just now, as he had also told me would happen, I received a text message - which I am meant to respond to rating his helpfulness. Has anyone else had such a phone call or is this perhaps a scam? Hopefully not! Looking forward to comments from the WAMUG group! Peta -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: iPhone - Telstra NextG CapPlan $49, with 500MB data
Hi all, I got no response on this before (too much info?) Is there anyone else out there who signed up for the Telstra NextG CapPlan $49 between 30 July and 30 September (when the standard 200mb data was increased to 500MB data) who could tell me how their bill is made up? IE, do you actually get 500MB and, if so, does it show something like: NextG CapPlan $49: $39.00 3G Data Pack 500MB: $20.00 3G Data Pack Promotional offer: $10.00cr Giving a monthly total: $49.00 (I'm just guessing here!) As I said, I guess at the moment I'm wondering whether to leave things as is and save $5/month (given I seem to be staying below 200MB, at present) or chase it up to get the plan, as advertised, with 500MB data (which should remove any excess data worries) - and, presumably, be up for another $5/month. Any feedback gratefully received ;o) Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 29/11/10 10:38 AM, Neil Houghton at n...@possumology.com wrote: Hi all, Kevins recent email reminded me of something that is niggling me. I recently (27 August) bought a new iPhone4 (at the AppleStore in Hay street) and signed up, in store, to the Telstra NextG CapPlan $49 which, with the special iPhone deal on at the time, was supposed to include 500MB of data (I got the 32GB iPhone4 which had a $299 up-front payment). The Apple guy was very apologetic about the fact that he couldn't set-up the Telstra account online (because Telstra wouldn't give them access to that system?!) so I had to sit there for around 20 minutes as the Apple guy patiently dealt with whatever Telstra moron was on the other end of the phone. There were a couple of moments where the Apple guy seemed to have to explain to the Telstra guy just how the plan worked: no, no, that's not applicable to this plan - this is what it says on your (Telstra's) website! Anyway, he finally declared it set-up, we activated the SIM and I made sure I made my first phone call before I left the AppleStore. What is niggling me, is that my bills are actually showing as: NextG CapPlan $49: $39.00 3G Data Pack 200MB: $10.00 3G Data Pack Promotional offer: $5.00cr Giving a monthly total: $44.00 So, one the one hand, I seem to only have a 200MB data allowance - whereas I was told, at sign-up, that the Telstra NextG CapPlan $49 for the iPhone included a 500MB data allowance - but, on the other hand, I seem to be getting $5/month discount on the data plan. So far, I haven't been downloading much data - I'm always connected wirelessly at home and (so far) don't do that much away from home - so it hasn't been a problem - but, given Telstra's exorbitant data rates, I would hate to one month use more than 200MB and get hit with a huge bill. I am trying to work out what went wrong with the sign-up - but the Telstra contract I signed at the AppleStore, under Mobile Plan details, just says: Other: $49 NextG Cap With no mention of included data allowances. 200MB was the data allowance on this plan before they announced the increase in data allowances at the end of July - the allowance was increased to 500MB if you signed up between 30 July and 30 September - so I was well within this envelope. Of course the plans have all changed since then, so Telstra's site is of no help (not that it ever is!). Given that I seem to be getting a 3G Data Pack Promotional offer - I am wondering if that is how they implemented the increased data allowances in their (very confusing) system - eg, if the $49 plan had been implemented as advertised would it show something like: NextG CapPlan $49: $39.00 3G Data Pack 500MB: $20.00 3G Data Pack Promotional offer: $10.00cr Giving a monthly total: $49.00 (I'm just guessing here!) Is there anyone else out there who signed up for the Telstra NextG CapPlan $49 between 30 July and 30 September who could tell me how their bill is made up? I guess at the moment I'm wondering whether to leave things as is and save $5/month (given I seem to be staying below 200MB, at present) or chase it up to get the plan, as advertised, with 500MB data (which should remove any excess data worries) - and, presumably, be up for another $5/month. Any feedback gratefully received ;o) Cheers Neil -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: iPhone - Telstra NextG CapPlan $49, with 500MB data
NeilI am same as you.my bill reads the same as yoyI read it that i am paying $49 and included in that is 500 mb data.cheersRod Rod Blitvich-Amy Sam’s Dad. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.auhttp://web.me.com/blittoBlack holes suck. On 12/12/2010, at 4:33 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:Hi all,I got no response on this before (too much info?)Is there anyone else out there who signed up for the Telstra NextG CapPlan$49 between 30 July and 30 September (when the standard 200mb data wasincreased to 500MB data) who could tell me how their bill ismade up?IE, do you actually get 500MB and, if so, does it show something like:NextG CapPlan $49: $39.003G Data Pack 500MB: $20.003G Data Pack Promotional offer: $10.00crGiving a monthly total: $49.00(I'm just guessing here!)As I said, I guess at the moment I'm wondering whether to leave things as isand save $5/month (given I seem to be staying below 200MB, at present) orchase it up to get the plan, as advertised, with 500MB data (which shouldremove any excess data worries) - and, presumably, be up for another$5/month.Any feedback gratefully received ;o)CheersNeil-- Neil R. HoughtonAlbany, Western AustraliaTel: +61 8 9841 6063Email: n...@possumology.comon 29/11/10 10:38 AM, Neil Houghton at n...@possumology.com wrote:Hi all,Kevins recent email reminded me of something that is niggling me.I recently (27 August) bought a new iPhone4 (at the AppleStore in Haystreet) and signed up, in store, to the Telstra NextG CapPlan $49 which,with the special iPhone deal on at the time, was supposed to include 500MBof data (I got the 32GB iPhone4 which had a $299 up-front payment).The Apple guy was very apologetic about the fact that he couldn't set-up theTelstra account online (because Telstra wouldn't give them access to thatsystem?!) so I had to sit there for around 20 minutes as the Apple guypatiently dealt with whatever Telstra moron was on the other end of thephone. There were a couple of moments where the Apple guy seemed to have toexplain to the Telstra guy just how the plan worked:"no, no, that's not applicable to this plan - this is what it says on your(Telstra's) website!"Anyway, he finally declared it set-up, we activated the SIM and I made sureI made my first phone call before I left the AppleStore.What is niggling me, is that my bills are actually showing as:NextG CapPlan $49: $39.003G Data Pack 200MB: $10.003G Data Pack Promotional offer: $5.00crGiving a monthly total: $44.00So, one the one hand, I seem to only have a 200MB data allowance - whereas Iwas told, at sign-up, that the Telstra NextG CapPlan $49 for the iPhoneincluded a 500MB data allowance - but, on the other hand, I seem to begetting $5/month discount on the data plan.So far, I haven't been downloading much data - I'm always connectedwirelessly at home and (so far) don't do that much away from home - so ithasn't been a problem - but, given Telstra's exorbitant data rates, I wouldhate to one month use more than 200MB and get hit with a huge bill.I am trying to work out what went wrong with the sign-up - but the Telstracontract I signed at the AppleStore, under Mobile Plan details, just says:Other: $49 NextG CapWith no mention of included data allowances.200MB was the data allowance on this plan before they announced the increasein data allowances at the end of July - the allowance was increased to 500MBif you signed up between 30 July and 30 September - so I was well withinthis envelope.Of course the plans have all changed since then, so Telstra's site is of nohelp (not that it ever is!).Given that I seem to be getting a "3G Data Pack Promotional offer" - I amwondering if that is how they implemented the increased data allowances intheir (very confusing) system - eg, if the $49 plan had been implemented asadvertised would it show something like:NextG CapPlan $49: $39.003G Data Pack 500MB: $20.003G Data Pack Promotional offer: $10.00crGiving a monthly total: $49.00(I'm just guessing here!)Is there anyone else out there who signed up for the Telstra NextG CapPlan$49 between 30 July and 30 September who could tell me how their bill ismade up?I guess at the moment I'm wondering whether to leave things as is and save$5/month (given I seem to be staying below 200MB, at present) or chase it upto get the plan, as advertised, with 500MB data (which should remove anyexcess data worries) - and, presumably, be up for another $5/month.Any feedback gratefully received ;o)CheersNeil-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtmlGuidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtmlUnsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: iPhone - Telstra NextG CapPlan $49, with 500MB data
Hi Rod, Thanks for the feedback. If you mean your bill reads the same as my BILL then you only get 200MB but only pay $44: NextG CapPlan $49: $39.00 3G Data Pack 200MB: $10.00 3G Data Pack Promotional offer: $5.00cr Giving a monthly total: $44.00 On the other hand, if you mean your bill reads the same as my GUESS (for how it SHOULD be) - then, Yes, you are paying $49 and getting 500MB: NextG CapPlan $49: $39.00 3G Data Pack 500MB: $20.00 3G Data Pack Promotional offer: $10.00cr Giving a monthly total: $49.00 I have had confirmation (off-list) from Peter Meyer that his bill is, in fact, itemised like this thanks Peter. So now I am pretty confident that they just set-up my account wrongly which doesn¹t surprise me after listening to (admittedly only one half of) the set-up telephone conversation between the Apple guy and the clueless Telstra operator. At present, I don¹t seem to be even coming too close to the 200 MB so I may just let it ride for the moment - save $5/month ;o) Thanks for your help guys. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 12/12/10 4:58 PM, Rod Blitvich at rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: Neil I am same as you. my bill reads the same as yoy I read it that i am paying $49 and included in that is 500 mb data. cheers Rod Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam¹s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.au http://web.me.com/blitto http://web.mac.com/blitto Black holes suck. On 12/12/2010, at 4:33 PM, Neil Houghton wrote: Hi all, I got no response on this before (too much info?) Is there anyone else out there who signed up for the Telstra NextG CapPlan $49 between 30 July and 30 September (when the standard 200mb data was increased to 500MB data) who could tell me how their bill is made up? IE, do you actually get 500MB and, if so, does it show something like: NextG CapPlan $49: $39.00 3G Data Pack 500MB: $20.00 3G Data Pack Promotional offer: $10.00cr Giving a monthly total: $49.00 (I'm just guessing here!) As I said, I guess at the moment I'm wondering whether to leave things as is and save $5/month (given I seem to be staying below 200MB, at present) or chase it up to get the plan, as advertised, with 500MB data (which should remove any excess data worries) - and, presumably, be up for another $5/month. Any feedback gratefully received ;o) Cheers Neil -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au image.gif
Re: iPhone - Telstra NextG CapPlan $49, with 500MB data
Sorry NeilYes - same as your "guess"Rod Rod Blitvich-Amy Sam’s Dad. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.auhttp://web.me.com/blittoA Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from? On 12/12/2010, at 6:50 PM, Neil Houghton wrote: Hi Rod, Thanks for the feedback. If you mean your bill reads the same as my BILL – then you only get 200MB but only pay $44: NextG CapPlan $49: $39.00 3G Data Pack 200MB: $10.00 3G Data Pack Promotional offer: $5.00cr Giving a monthly total: $44.00 On the other hand, if you mean your bill reads the same as my GUESS (for how it SHOULD be) - then, Yes, you are paying $49 and getting 500MB: NextG CapPlan $49: $39.00 3G Data Pack 500MB: $20.00 3G Data Pack Promotional offer: $10.00cr Giving a monthly total: $49.00 I have had confirmation (off-list) from Peter Meyer that his bill is, in fact, itemised like this – thanks Peter. So now I am pretty confident that they just set-up my account wrongly – which doesn’t surprise me after listening to (admittedly only one half of) the set-up telephone conversation between the Apple guy and the clueless Telstra operator. At present, I don’t seem to be even coming too close to the 200 MB – so I may just let it ride for the moment - save $5/month ;o) Thanks for your help guys. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 12/12/10 4:58 PM, Rod Blitvich at rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: Neil I am same as you. my bill reads the same as yoy I read it that i am paying $49 and included in that is 500 mb data. cheers Rod image.gif Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam’s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.au http://web.me.com/blitto http://web.mac.com/blitto Black holes suck. On 12/12/2010, at 4:33 PM, Neil Houghton wrote: Hi all, I got no response on this before (too much info?) Is there anyone else out there who signed up for the Telstra NextG CapPlan $49 between 30 July and 30 September (when the standard 200mb data was increased to 500MB data) who could tell me how their bill is made up? IE, do you actually get 500MB and, if so, does it show something like: NextG CapPlan $49: $39.00 3G Data Pack 500MB: $20.00 3G Data Pack Promotional offer: $10.00cr Giving a monthly total: $49.00 (I'm just guessing here!) As I said, I guess at the moment I'm wondering whether to leave things as is and save $5/month (given I seem to be staying below 200MB, at present) or chase it up to get the plan, as advertised, with 500MB data (which should remove any excess data worries) - and, presumably, be up for another $5/month. Any feedback gratefully received ;o) Cheers Neil --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Telstra online billing security breach but my lovely new iPhone is great!
Hi WAMUGgers I've had an awful time with Telstra getting a prepaid Browse Plus Pack working on my lovely new iPhone 4. I couldn't access my Telstra on line billing properly last night (not the first time mind you) as it consistently told me I either had no prepaid mobile phone, or that there was a website error. It even showed me the account details of a complete stranger! I ended up buying the pack by phone to be assured I'd just need to turn my phone off and on again to get it working. No that didn't work. This morning I checked again but still no internet access. Lovely Hannah at Mitchell and Brown up here in Geraldton came to my rescue and spent an hour on the phone with Telstra before they went to level 3 technical support. About an hour later I checked and finally the web appeared in all its glory on the iPhone. By the way yesterday Hannah had helped transfer my phone number and SIM card details from the old Samsung sIm to the new iPhone micro sIm at no cost, so I still have the same phone number and remaining call credit. About 30 minutes later a lady in Euroa, Victoria phoned me out of the blue on my land line phone, to tell me she could see all my Telstra account details online when checking hers, and indeed we had both seen the same other person's account last night. Has anyone else experienced this sort of problem? I phoned Telstra and the lady there (based in Perth) was aghast at the security breach and lodged a security complaint on my behalf. In the meantime, beware Telstra on-line billing security and lodge a complaint if your details appear to be compromised! Happy days Reg Reg Whitely Home: 08 9921 7272 Mob: 04 8899 7313 Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net Web: http://web.me.com/whitelyr/Reg/ http://beachlands.wordpress.com -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
iPhone - Telstra NextG CapPlan $49, with 500MB data
Hi all, Kevins recent email reminded me of something that is niggling me. I recently (27 August) bought a new iPhone4 (at the AppleStore in Hay street) and signed up, in store, to the Telstra NextG CapPlan $49 which, with the special iPhone deal on at the time, was supposed to include 500MB of data (I got the 32GB iPhone4 which had a $299 up-front payment). The Apple guy was very apologetic about the fact that he couldn't set-up the Telstra account online (because Telstra wouldn't give them access to that system?!) so I had to sit there for around 20 minutes as the Apple guy patiently dealt with whatever Telstra moron was on the other end of the phone. There were a couple of moments where the Apple guy seemed to have to explain to the Telstra guy just how the plan worked: no, no, that's not applicable to this plan - this is what it says on your (Telstra's) website! Anyway, he finally declared it set-up, we activated the SIM and I made sure I made my first phone call before I left the AppleStore. What is niggling me, is that my bills are actually showing as: NextG CapPlan $49: $39.00 3G Data Pack 200MB: $10.00 3G Data Pack Promotional offer: $5.00cr Giving a monthly total: $44.00 So, one the one hand, I seem to only have a 200MB data allowance - whereas I was told, at sign-up, that the Telstra NextG CapPlan $49 for the iPhone included a 500MB data allowance - but, on the other hand, I seem to be getting $5/month discount on the data plan. So far, I haven't been downloading much data - I'm always connected wirelessly at home and (so far) don't do that much away from home - so it hasn't been a problem - but, given Telstra's exorbitant data rates, I would hate to one month use more than 200MB and get hit with a huge bill. I am trying to work out what went wrong with the sign-up - but the Telstra contract I signed at the AppleStore, under Mobile Plan details, just says: Other: $49 NextG Cap With no mention of included data allowances. 200MB was the data allowance on this plan before they announced the increase in data allowances at the end of July - the allowance was increased to 500MB if you signed up between 30 July and 30 September - so I was well within this envelope. Of course the plans have all changed since then, so Telstra's site is of no help (not that it ever is!). Given that I seem to be getting a 3G Data Pack Promotional offer - I am wondering if that is how they implemented the increased data allowances in their (very confusing) system - eg, if the $49 plan had been implemented as advertised would it show something like: NextG CapPlan $49: $39.00 3G Data Pack 500MB: $20.00 3G Data Pack Promotional offer: $10.00cr Giving a monthly total: $49.00 (I'm just guessing here!) Is there anyone else out there who signed up for the Telstra NextG CapPlan $49 between 30 July and 30 September who could tell me how their bill is made up? I guess at the moment I'm wondering whether to leave things as is and save $5/month (given I seem to be staying below 200MB, at present) or chase it up to get the plan, as advertised, with 500MB data (which should remove any excess data worries) - and, presumably, be up for another $5/month. Any feedback gratefully received ;o) Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra iPhone data usage
Hi Andrew, I found that with my iPhone sat on my desk, connected through my home wireless network, it still was clocking up 3G data (not huge amounts but ongoing) - I ended up switching off 3G and I suspect I will just leave 3G switched off until I actually want to access something when not in a wireless zone, switch it on to access what I need, then switch it off again. I signed up for the Telstra mobile data usage meter - but it is far from reassuring: It currently says: You have currently used 23% (47.8MB) of your 205MB included data. Data usage displayed is from Tue 14 Sep '10. Your next bill is due to be issued on Wed 06 Oct '10. However: 1. My current plan is supposed to include 500MB of data. Not 205 MB 2. The only session listed is one session of 3 secs on 30 Sept which used 6kb (I momentarily switched 3G data on then off again) 3. If I try to use the Search Usage to search by date range (using todays date as the ³to² date: * If I exclude the 30th Sept, the listed session disappears (which is what I would expect) * If I set the date range from 14 Sept 10 (supposedly the ³from² date for the 47.8MB usage) it get a message saying ³Attention From date is before last Bill Date² - It isn¹t, my last bill was dated 02 Sept 10 and my next bill is apparently due to be issued on 06 Oct 10 * If I set the date range from 15 Sept 10, the message goes away but still the only session listed is the 6kb on 30 Sept. 4. So the Mobile Data Usage Meter tells me I have apparently used 47.8 MB since 14 Sept but it only actually identifies 6kb of it! Now, 47.8MB isn¹t actually a problem except that this was all generated while connected through a wireless network and over a relatively short time (I¹ve had 3G switched off for quite a while) so: 1. I have no confidence whatsoever in the Mobile Data Usage Meter 2. I dare not actually switch on 3G and use my iPhone for fear it will run up a huge data bill with no reliable means to check it. Sort of spoils my enjoyment of the iPhone somewhat :o( Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 4/10/10 5:39 PM, Andrew Schox at and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote: Hi all, I have had a Telstra iPhone 4 for five days, and got a message today saying I'd used 93% of my 1.5GB data plan. Previous to this I had a 1.5GB Optus data plan which I never exceeded in two years. My data usage has been probably less than what I usually used on Optus as I have frequently been accessing the net via WiFi. Has anybody else experienced similar issues. I can't believe I've used that much data in 5 days. I'll have to organise to spend a few hours tomorrow getting transferred from one department to another at Telstra's friendly phone support service... Cheers, Andrew -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra iPhone data usage
I like Quota as an app for my iPhone but you can use Telstra's own page to check your usage in detail. https://es.telstra.com/MobileDataUsageMeter/index.jsp?theme=tb#Usage robin On 04/10/2010, at 5:56 PM, Brian Risbey wrote: There is an app for that, 3G Usage, might help to monitor things. Brian Sent from my iPhone On 04/10/2010, at 17:39, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote: Hi all, I have had a Telstra iPhone 4 for five days, and got a message today saying I'd used 93% of my 1.5GB data plan. Previous to this I had a 1.5GB Optus data plan which I never exceeded in two years. My data usage has been probably less than what I usually used on Optus as I have frequently been accessing the net via WiFi. Has anybody else experienced similar issues. I can't believe I've used that much data in 5 days. I'll have to organise to spend a few hours tomorrow getting transferred from one department to another at Telstra's friendly phone support service... Cheers, Andrew -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra iPhone data usage
Hi Andrew Do you have email set up? If so, have you gone and changed the checking of it from Push to Manual. If it's set to Push, then it's checking it all the time!! You can check in:- Settings - Mail, Contacts, Calendars. I generally have Fetch New Data set to Off. Then click on Fetch New Data. Change this to Manually. Then click on Advanced. Then change each account to Manually. This means email won't check, until you actually open up Mail to look at it. This stops it from checking all the time, and can help with data usage. Try that and see how it goes (if you're using Mail of course). If not, ignore everything I said :O) Kind Regards Daniel On 4/10/10 5:39 PM, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote: Hi all, I have had a Telstra iPhone 4 for five days, and got a message today saying I'd used 93% of my 1.5GB data plan. Previous to this I had a 1.5GB Optus data plan which I never exceeded in two years. My data usage has been probably less than what I usually used on Optus as I have frequently been accessing the net via WiFi. Has anybody else experienced similar issues. I can't believe I've used that much data in 5 days. I'll have to organise to spend a few hours tomorrow getting transferred from one department to another at Telstra's friendly phone support service... Cheers, Andrew -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Telstra iPhone data usage
Hi all, I have had a Telstra iPhone 4 for five days, and got a message today saying I'd used 93% of my 1.5GB data plan. Previous to this I had a 1.5GB Optus data plan which I never exceeded in two years. My data usage has been probably less than what I usually used on Optus as I have frequently been accessing the net via WiFi. Has anybody else experienced similar issues. I can't believe I've used that much data in 5 days. I'll have to organise to spend a few hours tomorrow getting transferred from one department to another at Telstra's friendly phone support service... Cheers, Andrew -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra iPhone data usage
There is an app for that, 3G Usage, might help to monitor things. Brian Sent from my iPhone On 04/10/2010, at 17:39, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote: Hi all, I have had a Telstra iPhone 4 for five days, and got a message today saying I'd used 93% of my 1.5GB data plan. Previous to this I had a 1.5GB Optus data plan which I never exceeded in two years. My data usage has been probably less than what I usually used on Optus as I have frequently been accessing the net via WiFi. Has anybody else experienced similar issues. I can't believe I've used that much data in 5 days. I'll have to organise to spend a few hours tomorrow getting transferred from one department to another at Telstra's friendly phone support service... Cheers, Andrew -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra iPhone data usage
Hi Daniel, I do use mail, and had push set to on. I had set the fetch schedule to Manually, which I thought protected me, since I never get any mail unless I click the check mail button in mail. Cheers, Andrew On 04/10/2010, at 9:00 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Andrew Do you have email set up? If so, have you gone and changed the checking of it from Push to Manual. If it's set to Push, then it's checking it all the time!! You can check in:- Settings - Mail, Contacts, Calendars. I generally have Fetch New Data set to Off. Then click on Fetch New Data. Change this to Manually. Then click on Advanced. Then change each account to Manually. This means email won't check, until you actually open up Mail to look at it. This stops it from checking all the time, and can help with data usage. Try that and see how it goes (if you're using Mail of course). If not, ignore everything I said :O) Kind Regards Daniel On 4/10/10 5:39 PM, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote: Hi all, I have had a Telstra iPhone 4 for five days, and got a message today saying I'd used 93% of my 1.5GB data plan. Previous to this I had a 1.5GB Optus data plan which I never exceeded in two years. My data usage has been probably less than what I usually used on Optus as I have frequently been accessing the net via WiFi. Has anybody else experienced similar issues. I can't believe I've used that much data in 5 days. I'll have to organise to spend a few hours tomorrow getting transferred from one department to another at Telstra's friendly phone support service... Cheers, Andrew -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Telstra iPhone data usage
I have two accounts setup on my phone and both are set to push and receive a lot of email every day. I have never gone over 200MB of data usage in the 18 months I have had the phone...making my 1GB of data seem pointless. Adam Sent from my iPhone On 05/10/2010, at 9:01 AM, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote: Hi Daniel, I do use mail, and had push set to on. I had set the fetch schedule to Manually, which I thought protected me, since I never get any mail unless I click the check mail button in mail. Cheers, Andrew On 04/10/2010, at 9:00 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Andrew Do you have email set up? If so, have you gone and changed the checking of it from Push to Manual. If it's set to Push, then it's checking it all the time!! You can check in:- Settings - Mail, Contacts, Calendars. I generally have Fetch New Data set to Off. Then click on Fetch New Data. Change this to Manually. Then click on Advanced. Then change each account to Manually. This means email won't check, until you actually open up Mail to look at it. This stops it from checking all the time, and can help with data usage. Try that and see how it goes (if you're using Mail of course). If not, ignore everything I said :O) Kind Regards Daniel On 4/10/10 5:39 PM, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote: Hi all, I have had a Telstra iPhone 4 for five days, and got a message today saying I'd used 93% of my 1.5GB data plan. Previous to this I had a 1.5GB Optus data plan which I never exceeded in two years. My data usage has been probably less than what I usually used on Optus as I have frequently been accessing the net via WiFi. Has anybody else experienced similar issues. I can't believe I've used that much data in 5 days. I'll have to organise to spend a few hours tomorrow getting transferred from one department to another at Telstra's friendly phone support service... Cheers, Andrew -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
