So they announce some of the DEMF lineup and all you twaty pissants can do is
bitch and moan...
I love it!!
This means you LOVE the lineup and the festival will be a success this year, but
of course don't tell anyone, it's our dirty little secret.
I bet if there was also a free oral sex boot
Oohhh. very nice... although I can't help but hear bits of "Nights on
Disco Mountain" ;)
The orchestration is really nice, but can't something be done about that drum
machine? It sounds completely out of place. Perhaps it needs to be more the
centerpiece, not just a part of the musi
Here's a press release I just got about the new Herbert album:
Dear All,
You are about to be given the opportunity for assisting Matthew Herbert with his
latest album – due for release next year. You are also about to being the
opportunity to feature on it!
Below, enclosed are t
Hmmm... seems it *IS* Fischerspooner... "A Kick in the Teeth" just gotta track
down the remix... Ah... Tiefschwarz... Oh well, everyone back to your tea.
Charming.
Tosh
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Oh yeah... and the lyrics were something like "this is the best thing" or maybe
the "best time" definately sounded like best something...
;)
Tosh
PS. Did my job posting for a German editor for the DVD Magazine "Slices" make it
to the list?
Anyone know any good sites with lots of DJ mixes? Specifically I'm looking for
stuff by Tiefschwarz.
On a side-note, I'm looking for a song, maybe not even released, but it sounds a
bit like Underworld (the vocal style and feeling), throw in some 303/acid stuff,
and then add a breakdown near
Oh cute, Alex is offering to tea bag now...
Subject: germany debug magazine
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:06:32 +0100
To: 313@hyperreal.org
hello list.
i was wondering if any of our german compadres could help me out?
what I need is someone to go and buy me a copy of th
Yeah seriously, why did Dale just drop off the face of the earth? There was so
much hope and promise...
Subject: Re: (313) RE: So
From: rob theakston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:31:00 -0400
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Well it's nice to see everyone except Dale Lawrence has been b
I believe Dimitri (Tresor) played X-101 at the very bitter end for all the right
reasons, too bad Jeff wasn't a sport enough to be there.
Tosh
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Ewan Pearson also remixed the new Moby, it's really good!!
Tosh
Location?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kraftwerk would take another ten years to get ready...
Jean-Michel Jarre vs. Vangelis?
MEK
Tosh Cooey
Battle of the bands... who would win?
Bands:
Kraftwerk vs. Jean-Michel Jarre
Location (and this is the most important):
Acropolis
or
Hyde Park
Tosh
I would watch out on that Basic Channel live announcement, it may have been
announced before it was confirmed...
Tosh
11.3.2005 23:00 Uhr 14 Years Tresor - Good Bye Leipziger Strasse Part 3
Globus:
- Basic Channel (Basic Channel / Berlin) Live!
- Francois K. (Wave Music / NYC) Live!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But rules for radio and media are set by the FCC, and the tone of their
decision making is typically set by the administration. This is an
administration that believes that corporations are good, monopolies are not
really a big deal, and any kind of government intervent
sh.com/contributors/04/11/images/04new_map.jpg
Tosh
Gerald wrote:
Hey Tosh,
Then where does Brave New Waves fit into the picture? It runs nationally
across Canada, and the Northern U.S. States can pick it up as well - right.
- Original Message - From: "Stoddard, Kamal&quo
Stoddard, Kamal wrote:
If you would defend your right to a free and open media marketplace as
strong as you defend against a perceived slight against Matt's efforts then
this would never be a problem.
Fxck yerself. I went to 5 community action meetings with 2 including members
of the fcc, whe
ask what's playing so regularly that maybe I should get a 'now
playing' sign to put on the hatch!
-Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 2:14 AM To: 313 Cc: Tosh Cooey;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Radio Fr
Sorry Michael, since Alex is not as lucid as previous I feel the need to try and
fill his funny shoes, so I am forwarding this to the list, hope you don't hate
me for it...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not too sure which ones you're referring to, but I hear that Canada is
allowed to see a t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
do you have a link for the mix?
Somebody else posted in to 313 in the summer, no idea where from...
who cares what happens on the radio and other maninstream corpoate owned
media - we now have the internet, cheap broadband and mp3s. i use my ipod
like a radio. the
Ok so I am listening to an MP3 of Mills and Garnier playing their funk/rare
groove/disco/rock'n'roll set.
The set is from Switch Studios which I guess is a radio station in Brussels,
which for the enlightenment for many Americans is in Belgium, where the waffels
come from.
What's even more r
Just as Juan is releasing his new album on Tresor, comes this news:
http://www.tresorberlin.com/news/news.pl?id=48
Tosh
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I think that maybe it's time to face the reality that Detroit just sucks, on so
many levels and for so many reasons.
Detroit is a bit like a wife-beater; no matter how bad it gets we keep coming
back for more because after every black eye we get Detroit always manages to
give us roses and apol
I would like to hypothesize that the reason there is so much off-topic posting
here in the last while is because 313 techno is no longer being made in an
amount worthy of generating a focussed discussion.
I'll wait for half of you stop seeing red...
I don't buy records, and rarely CDs. I'm ju
The new A Guy Called Gerald is sounding pretty Detroit influenced, or have I
just been gone too long?
http://www.k7.com/data.pl?release=!k7173EP
Tosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
tosh-
aren't those two also using some sort of 'secret box' that i believe is an
actual synthesizer or drum machine or something?
i know they brought one to beat street last spring, but were too,
er...distracted, to ever use it.
I don't know if it's *secret* or if i
Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote:
He would literally play that same minimal sample for 15 to 20 minute.
Ha ha!! Isn't that *all* minimal music?!
But this brings us to what Martin says:
Martin Dust wrote:
>
> Who cares Tosh to be honest...
>
> Martin
How can you know what to expect when you see the
mers own material" well Ricardo was creating
drums and just strange noises and triggering them by hand, and Richie was
sampling records and playing with those, much like most musicians do these days
with samples.
So were they live or DJ'ing?
Tosh
On 3 Dec 2004, at 11:55, Tosh Cooey wr
After the weekend in London for the Richie/Ricardo spectacle I have a question:
What exactly does "live" mean?
Can the word "live" be replaced by "Playing their own music"?
I ask because during the course of the show there were moments when Richie would
put on a record, grab a loop from the re
Hi, I love trance, and er... there's some hit making the rounds from a new(ish?)
UK label and the track is by a Holden, or maybe it's remixed by a Holden, or
something like that, but it's riding a fine border between techno and trance,
much like early Carl Craig can sometimes do...
What is it?
Hi, I'll be in London this weekend for the Richie/Ricardo spectacle at Fabric on
Saturday.
Be cool to see some of you real live limey rat-bastards in the flesh. I'm sure
I'll be near the front with a bottle of vodka or whatever I can blag, and I
promise I'll say something stupid.
Tosh
Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote:
when i first got on this list i was in my mid twenties with the world in
front of me.
now i'm in my mid thirties with a growing family that keeps on growing.
much harder to go clubbing.
Good point, how much of it is due to age?
Tosh
All the North Americans I know who have been over to Europe in the last year
keep saying the same thing over and over, that electronic music culture in
America is dying.
No clubs, all the smaller cities are non-existent for a DJ/live performance,
etc. how true is this?
I have seen some evide
http://www.bartleby.com/65/na/narodnik.html
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this, but last Thursday was a performance by
Narodniki in Berlin, which this time consisted of (Left to Right):
http://www.c4.ca/narodniki.jpg
Richie Hawtin
Max Loderbauer (Sun Electric)
Luciano
Ricardo Villalobos
Belgium, France, whatever... it's like Austrians saying they're different than
Germans and vice-versa, or Canadians trying to tell you they're not American ;)
Sorry Dimi, I assumed based upon the @free.fr address, Belgians make better
fries anyway!!
Tosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, Dim
Well it's good to see that people from France have stepped up and done what
should have been done by Detroiters.
Freedom fries exactly.
Tosh
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Subject: (313) New here
When he goes into the club looking for the dancer with the snake (which don't
have scales BTW) there's a little disco track playing in the background which
didn't seem to make it onto the official soundtrack.
Anyone know what I'm talking about? Anyone have any more info on that?
Thanks!!
Tos
Matt Chester wrote:
>
> eg - would you buy a sh*t album just cause it had a nice cover or was
> pressed on purple crushed velvet vinyl?
Depends on what I felt the resale value might be.
Tosh
Tresor 13 year birthday.
More techno than one can comprehend really.
Tosh
So this isn't directly 313 but close enough.
Martin said:
"But I do feel this is to the advantage of the smaller player like Warp, but
look who they have to deal with as well, US - 192K bitrate!!! Up yours "
So what's the best balance between cost and quality?
The problem is purely economic.
have organized are Sonar Kollektiv/Jazzanova, Gigolo, and Plus 8/MINUS.
Should be interesting soon...
Tosh
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That's pretty 313 isn't it? I think we should stop talking about everything
that has anything to do with techno for one day, and for that day you can all
tell me what the best from the White Stripes is.
I have Destijl and 3l3phant already.
Or just buy it all?
Tosh
--
Tosh Co
Anyone who uses anything other than turntables and vinyl to DJ is not a DJ, just
as anyone who uses anything other than a musical instrument is not a musician
and so isn't making music.
Thank-you.
Tosh
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Twelve Hundred Group
http://www.1200group.com/
I'm losing my edge, the kids are coming up from behind.
But I was there.
I was there, in the Paradise Garage DJ booth with Larry Levan.
I was there in Jamaica during the great soundclashes.
I was naked on the beach in Ibiza in 1988.
But I'm losing my edge.
Yes, you're all so special.
Tosh
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> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 2:04 PM
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> > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (313) I hear that 313 should worship LCD Soundsyst
Yes, 313 is Losing it's Edge.
LCD Soundsystem's Losing My Edge reminds me so much of a 313 thread.
It's the saddest night out in the USA...
Tosh
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It's such a freakshow, mow.wow...wowooo..
It always amazes me just how bad my writing is. For how else can so
many people mis-interpret my meanderings.
Anyway, Jeff had some good points, so I think I need to clarify.
First, to everyone who thinks I am bagging laptop shows, that is not the
case. A laptop is a tool to do something, the l
Sure maybe it's flame bait, but at least it's honest flame bait.
I've had this in me for about two months now.
Do you ever wonder why a laptop show is boring? I know many of you do
because I've seen the posts to prove it.
I know why a laptop show is boring.
It's because the f**king music the a
Somebody please tell me I am only hearing a bad joke about Laura.
Tosh
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Twelve Hundred Group
http://www.1200group.com/
Yes it's true that Final Scratch prevents audio feedback, and thus
prevents that fuzzy bass build-up from happening, but as with all clouds
there is a silver lining.
When you go to play at the club and the other DJs are all using normal
vinyl then they have a limit to how loud they can play. Plug
Man a lot of you are bitter biters.
Hell built a scene around a sound and many other people liked it. Liked
it enough for it to become big enough for people to whine about.
Cry-babies.
Oh yeah, and to everyone who complains that this "scene" isn't about the
music anymore but about drugs and mon
Hi, anybody know of anything cool happening in Detroit tonight?
You know what would be amazing? A party with Richie Hawtin and Kevin
Saunderson playing together, and free!!!
Yeah that's what I'd like to see happening in Detroit tonight...
... http://m-nus.com/calendar/events.cgi?event_ID=608
T
Ok, there's always a lively discussion on the merits of Hawtin.
Everyone has their opinion, and everyone has their tastes.
But there are some things in the world which can't be argued. If you
accept that "pop" music is not just about the music but also about the
contextual packaging of the music
I don't knock-off my design from DR, I steal from the real masters of
minimal...
Speedy's new CD is perfect, although I like Jon Spencer more
Tosh
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...because I'm the first on this list to mention the mix by 2 Many DJ's
Still doubting why I'm to be worshipped?
http://www.2manydjs.org/
Oh yeah, check out that tracklist.
Still doubting? Then bugger-off you ignoramous.
Tosh
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uh...
A DJ can play the best music from many artists for a long bloody time, a
LIVE artist can only play a couple of their good tracks and a bunch of
their boring stuff for two hours MAX... *you* decide what you want to
pay for.
Tiga makes me guile.
Tosh
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Re: luke slater and electro pop.
Tom, don't be so intelligent on this list, people don't appreciate it,
please discuss the latest Detroit promoter drama instead.
Tosh
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So I'm hearing rumours that Rother is working with Kraftwerk on a new
album, OR he's working with one of the myriad of ex-Kraftwerk members on
a new album.
Also I think Anthony is working on Sven Vaeth's new album, but again
this is all drawn from drunken conversation so who knows eh?
Tosh
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T
Here's what's burning my CD player this month:
More Dub Infusions (Sonar Kollektiv)
Jackmate - Ghetto of my Mind (Kompakt)
Swayzak - Groovetechnology CD#2 (!K7)
Recloose - Cardiology (!K7)
Fat Boy Slim - In Brighton
Andrew WK - Party Hard!!! (Where are my f*cking acid wash jeans!?!?)
Get them all
He said Sugababes, hu uh uh uh huh hu huhu uh. mm..
Overload was a good pop track you have to admit, and they're so giggly
cute when they're being interviewed.
Tosh
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:01:45 +0100
To: Neil Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
From: "Ploegmakers
Watch me duck the topic of this list as I merge two topics into one,
seamlessly...
Been listening to the new Jazzanova album, it's very uh easy. I
wouldn't normally like it, but last night at 6am after Cookies all night
it was perfect, just perfect. Duplaix does the vocals on a couple of
the
these are all on the !K7 website.
http://www.k7.com
Tosh
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; each and every night
> hey yo
>
> (repeat a couple hundred times 'til spent)
> :^)
> sean
> -Original Message-
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who did that track? deeon?
what's the name of it?
thanks!!
Google isn't much help
Tosh
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Damn just listening to a rockin' remake of Jaguar, bloody fine
track. Guitars, drums, bass, and heavy distortion, GGrrrRRrgGrrr
Speaking of fine tracks, the new Herbert single is out soon, "The
Audience" with a remix by Jamie Lidell, bloody amazing remix, although
I'm not entirely sure wh
Just listening to the Total Destruction CD on Forte by Ural 13
Dictators, euro synthpop at its damn finest, however you want to
interpret that.
Damn fine
Tosh
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> is there any reason to send out an email alert, put up online flyers,
> and hand out postcards to tens of thousands of people at the DEMF for
> a party where the capacity was all of 400?
Yes, because if you don't then the people who didn't find out about it
will whine and complain "damn, that ri
Is it me or have techno parties in Detroit always been bastions of
sketchy drama and politics?
Are other cities like this, can I get some perspective?
Tosh
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this is why berlin is the best city in the world.
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Close, but that's the CD tracklist, which is very likely not the same as
the vinyl tracklist.
Thanks tho'!!
Tosh
Sakari Karipuro wrote:
>
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Tosh Cooey wrote:
>
> > Hi, I'm looking for the tracklists of X-Mix 2, and X-Mix 3 on vinyl
> &g
Hi, I'm looking for the tracklists of X-Mix 2, and X-Mix 3 on vinyl
that's Laurent, and Rich and John.
And just to make digging through the dusty crates worth the hayfever,
I'll send the people with the first verifiably correct responses a copy
of the new Herbert CD, Bodily Functions. Oh the trac
Not all the X-Mix series was released on vinyl, and they definately
aren't available from !K7 anymore.
Hmmm lemme check the network and see what actually was released on
vinyl...
Looks like probably everything from X-Mix 4 (Dave Angel) on.
Good luck finding it.
Tosh
I just listened to bits of his album from CDnow and heard lots of
samples of black artists, so obviously he's reprehensible.
Apologies for posing the question before I investigated myself.
Tosh
Fatboy Slim, or Moby?
Actually, I wouldn't mind getting a critical review of Cook from this
list. It seems the main problem with Moby is that he has ripped off
every black artist to have ever existed by sampling some gospel, but
Cook (to my limited knowledge of his repetoire) has only ripped off
rocks.
thanks for your time.
Tosh
Phonopsia wrote:
>
> last week. I really care about whether or not underground music producers
> can continue to support themselves via their artistic efforts. What I'm
> seeing argued is that we should favor the tyranny of the majority over the
> tyranny of the minority, when *we are the minority
> From: "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> So what are the general benefits to the public of copying? It sounds
> to me that the benefit of copying is the unimpeded sharing of
> information. Conceptually, this is a great idea. In practice I don't
> think this leaves us any way to support an art
>
> It is not crap but I guess it has plateau-ed in recent times. I haven't been
> there though but I have seen many DJs. Patrick Lindsey is big in Australia
>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "plateau-ed" oh God (sic) I'm going to fall out
of my chair.
A night of German electronic music (aka techn
This current race thread was started by Moby.
Specifically it was started by people who were trying to justify their
dislike of his music by noting that he used the work of black artists in
his hit songs, much like many others have in the past.
Picasso was heavily influenced by African masks, and
THE RACIAL INJUSTICES IN THE MUSIC SCENE NEVER QUIT. FIRST ELVIS STEALS
THE BLUES FROM THE BLACKS, THEN PUFF DADDY STEALS "EVERY BREATH YOU
TAKE" FROM THE WHITES. NEXT THING WE KNOW PUFFY WILL BE REWRITING THE
HISTORY OF EARLY MAINSTREAM PUNK AND ALL THE GREAT WHITE BANDS OF THE
PUNK ERA, LIKE TH
They amuse me AND have excellent give-aways!! So far we can get:
sausage kit
trout
fried fish (possibly related to above?)
foam cowboy hat
Did I miss any?
Tosh
P.S. As for the relevence to the list topic, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is the perfect caricature of Detroit rave promoters.
Yes he would have been playing off the laptop.
Imagine that.
Tosh
It should be noted that almost everyone advocating staying in downtown
Detroit during the DEMF does not live there, nor have they spent any
reasonable amount of time there. I would suggest trying to find
opinions off the list from people who are more willing to be candid.
But if you do decide to
> For those who have yet to view them, Joe Vaughn's "Visions of the First
> DEMF" photo series will be 'officially' opening that same night.
>
> his "vision" included _three_ photos with richie as the subject matter..since
> there were only about 15 photos in the small room and since no other dj
I can't believe the things I read on this list. This list, which uses
the works of Alvin Toffler in vain and frequently evokes the imagry of
Blade Runner and music created in a present future dystopia, and then I
read crap like this:
"Sounds horrible, going through the box is part of the artform.
Anyone at MIDEM and see the release of Final Scratch?
You know how I've been going on about the future of DJ'ing? Well Hawtin
and Acquaviva along with N2IT out of The Netherlands did their press
release of Final Scratch yesterday. It's not the first time they've
used the system, it was used duri
Well here's another mention. To see it in action go to Motor Detroit
tonight.
All I can really say, and I don't guarantee it'll be used or functioning
but I'm 90% positive it will be.
Tosh
I've heard that Dale Lawrence has moved to Berlin, does anyone know if
that's true? If it is true then that's crazy because EVERYONE is in
Berlin these days and Dale would certainly be in good company and add
something interesting to the mix.
Tosh
I saw it on Saturday. Vinyl is no longer needed. The DJ played, nobody
who watched or listened noticed anything new, all 1000+ people had a
great time.
Stunning.
I had many drinks to reconcile myself with this new reality.
Tosh
whatever happened to them?
They releasing anything good?
Tosh
hmmmeveryone's mispressing stories seem to center on vinyl, but I
have a copy of the Barada album "Strategies for Deeper Design" which is
some rock'n'roll stuff of bad quality, and it's not just a matter of the
wrong CD put in the wrong case, the CD even has the Barada inking on
it. This CD wa
Hey if I make a humourous remark of dubious nature about uh. Rich
Hawtin, does that mean that people will take him less seriously?
How about some self-depreciating humour at my own expense?
When did some good-natured ribbing, especially in the context of witty
sarcasm, become something that d
--- * ani * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> crowds of rolling bar hoochies rubbing vicks on each other, etc
Please tell me where I can find the above so I may uh avoid, uh
.. yeah avoid it.
Tosh
I haven't heard much noise from the R&S camp in a while. Am I listening
in the wrong places? Whatever happened to R&S after the Sony deal?
Tosh
Dunno about the remixes but I went to Expo 2000 yesterday. Took an ICE
train there, is it possible to get on a train in Germany and NOT be
humming Trans Europe Express to yourself?
As for the Expo, it was pretty amazing, somethings more amazing than
others. The Swiss and Norwegians were very cle
Basic Channel brought about the renaissance in German techno that has
occured.
Tosh
> ack!
>
> Anybody bought some deep, stringy, soulful detroit techno lately?
> recommendations?
No I don't think so, unless they were buying records from a few years
back.
All kidding aside, heh heh heh A Jaguar question: A few years back
there was a party in Detroit thrown by Dez and the D
I'm looking to rip a mix CD into one file instead of the 20+ it comes
as. I tried ripping then concatenating the files together but there's
sometimes a slight overlap which makes my one big long file hiccup.
Maybe I'm just using bad ripping software?
Sugestions?
Thanks!
Tosh
Name the famous 313 alumni who toured with Moby AND The Prodigy.
Personally I'd rather listen to Moby than Kid Rock.
Tosh
Dunno about digweed but a Sasha CD of him in Ibiza found its way into
the office and it was pretty good. Nice driving tracks, not too
insipid, and to be honest, if I was in Ibiza I'm not too sure I'd really
want to be beaten over the head with hard bangin' techno all night, and
I'm sure he's playi
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