On Mon, 14 May 2001, Counterforce - Lay wrote:
By at least _then_ we'll have to do what we did during the Sony-episode:
to stand up for our rights.
Our rights are now being distributed by Universal.
Then there's always option to go deeper where the eerie glow of Universal
doesn't reach.
Haye!
Does anyone know where I can find a schedule for performances of Carl Craig
(and his other projects)?
Pre-thanks!
Lay
Unconditional Empowerment
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art is imitation--this doesnt mean that people dont
imitate unconsciously or indirectly on deeper levels--
who's arrogant or just simply in a bad mood here?
every ripple has its source!
Wonderfully said!!
darw_n...
... :i: explore.
art is imitation--this doesnt mean that people dont
imitate unconsciously or indirectly on deeper levels--
who's arrogant or just simply in a bad mood here?
every ripple has its source!
That's a great way of rationalizing what was clearly an arrogant
statement.
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From: Alexander Ohanyan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [313] Derrick May an arrogant prick! Re: [313] Carl Craig
Fired!
art is imitation--this doesnt mean that people dont
imitate
and what May should realize, along with *many* of us,
is exactly what the original poster said...
Art IS imitation, and every ripple has its source...
darw_n...
Couldn't agree more!
Some people think it all magically started in Detroit and everything after
that is a copy-style. Early techno
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Subject: Re: [313] Derrick May an arrogant prick! Re: [313] Carl Craig
Fired!
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 11:40:25 +0200
and what May should realize, along with *many* of us,
is exactly what the original poster said...
Art IS imitation, and every ripple has its
and don't forget the salaries
commitees = lots of time and no decision.
i was thinking about his whole advisory committee
thing. maybe its not a bad idea. lets look to other
areas of the world that use committees to choose. the
NCAA and the basketball tournament selection committee
begin
Mmmm... look what popped through the door today:
Paperclip People: The Climax (Planet E)
A. Original mix
AA. Basic Channel 2001 mix
Apparently it's out this month, the first of Planet E's four re-releases to
mark the label's 10th anniversary (next is 3 SHOP tracks due in September).
The BC mix
Carl Craig has been asked to step down as creative director for the DEMF. Read:
http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf11_20010511.htm
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Carl Craig has been asked to step down as creative director for the
DEMF. Read:
http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf11_20010511.htm
Oh great, next year's festival lineup is going to be chosen by a
committee!
I can't wait to see Tall Paul Van
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Subject: [313] CARL CRAIG ASKED TO STEP DOWN
Carl Craig has been asked to step down as creative director for the DEMF.
Read:
http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music
Interesting, however from what I have read, I thought
the festival was Mr.Craig's brainchild...and now he is
ousted? Personally, I liked the idea of bringing in
acts from around the world, and not just Detroit.
This list seems too quiet
or should we go back to talking about essential mixes
F***in hell!!! See, no sooner as they get their foot
in the door, they take over... He'd better not stand
down... No down they'll be using strong arm tactics to
persuade him to hand the DEMF over... Those
b*ds. If anything happens, we have to remain true
to the scene alright?!?! Underground,
Interesting, however from what I have read, I thought
the festival was Mr.Craig's brainchild...and now he is
ousted? Personally, I liked the idea of bringing in
acts from around the world, and not just Detroit.
This list seems too quiet
I think everyone is formulating opinions at the
not get a chance to see if someone
else was doing the artist planning.
From: Jessica M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [313] CARL CRAIG ASKED TO STEP DOWN
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 23:31:16 +1000 (EST)
Interesting, however from what I have read, I thought
the festival
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Nick Walsh wrote:
F***in hell!!! See, no sooner as they get their foot
in the door, they take over... He'd better not stand
down... No down they'll be using strong arm tactics to
persuade him to hand the DEMF over...
A
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Hi everybody,
Before we start accusing anyone of being an evil
bastard out to corrupt
americas youth and steal techno, we need some more
info. It is real easy to
yell and scream when you have no real information
about what is really going
on.
Scares them tho, doesn't it... There's more
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Nick Walsh wrote:
conclusions. What do we do if it happens tho? What if
they start selling OUR music as if it was always
theirs? Maybe it's a big plot by Sony so that they own
everything Mad Mike wouldn't let them have...
By at least _then_ we'll have to do what we did
I think my biggest concern is that SFX will have more say in the line-up
next year. Personally, I think SFX is pure evil.
~Jessica Staller
Pittsburgh, PA
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What I think is that this forum should be used for constructive debate not 'told
you so' snipe
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Subject: Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
From The Detroit Free Press
Hey,
Not to say I told you so, but as I recall when I was
commenting on this list
about the lineup a few weeks ago, saying I didn't
feel it was extremely
representative of Detroit talent, I feel I was
getting hated on a little. Matter
of fact, noone really wanted to touch that topic
'We let him know that we are one, and he has our support, but we just
want Detroit to be recognized at the festival, said May. Everybody's
coming here to be down with the source -- not the people who imitate the
source.'
I was going to point out this quote as well... who the hell on that
I think my biggest concern is that SFX will have more say in the line-up
next year. Personally, I think SFX is pure evil.
This is so true.
Nobody has mentioned the fact that Carl Craig is not too happy about the
incident. In the article he would not comment as to whether or not he was
:23 AM
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From The Detroit Free Press:
Several of Detroit's pioneering techno musicians met with Craig in April
at the office of Derrick May, the Detroit DJ scheduled to play the
festival's
closing set. They included May
i was thinking about his whole advisory committee
thing. maybe its not a bad idea. lets look to other
areas of the world that use committees to choose. the
NCAA and the basketball tournament selection committee
begin with parameters for who should make it into the
tournament. each member of
.
Did anyone else find it funny that none of the performers are listed in
Ford's massive ad campaign?
John
Yes! I've noticed and i guess more power to them, but it is quite dis-
heartening.
I certainly hope Carl Craig takes action against them for breech of
contract, but we don't know
actually, we call it the war of independance. which is pretty flattering;)
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okay. Ive been trying
actually, it's known as the american war of independence
From: Sean Deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:59:50 -0400
okay. Ive been trying to stay out
Did anyone else find it funny that none of the performers are listed in
Ford's massive ad campaign?
Yes! I've noticed and i guess more power to them, but it is quite dis-
heartening.
where the hell would they put them all? there's like 60
performers! They'd have to be in like 8 point
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okay. Ive been trying to stay out of it, but this comment has drawn me in.
you shouldnt just accept what you read or are spoon fed by the media as
truth. theres *always* more to a story than
commitees = lots of time and no decision.
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Subject: [313] carl craig asked to step down!
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:59:53 -0700 (PDT)
i was thinking about his whole advisory committee
thing. maybe its not a bad idea. lets look
From: Jess Staller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:00:33 -0400 (EDT)
.
Did anyone else find it funny that none of the performers are listed in
Ford's massive ad campaign?
Perhaps its because they weren't confirmed
But who will be on this commitee, and who will choose
those people?
Marvin said the role of creative director will be
filled next year by an advisory board made up of
artists and others in the Detroit techno industry.
That's still sort of vague. I can think of other
commitees that aren't so
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But who will be on this commitee, and who will choose
those people?
Marvin said the role of creative director will be
filled next year by an advisory
talking strictly as an outside observer looking in,
i'd say there's been a
lot of politics involved already, whether just one
individual or a
commitee.
True. Imagine the politics involved with a 20 or
more person committee with multiple sponsors.
yikes :)
Kevin
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What do y'all think now?
I think this post made you look like a tool.
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Kevin Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
talking strictly as an outside observer looking in,
i'd say there's been a
lot of politics involved already, whether just one
individual or a
commitee.
After reading the article this morning and a few of the posts lately I find it
interesting that
Sorry about this but my hotmail account went down about the time I found
this out
What's going on with this? What's the talk right now?
Email me privately to avoid annoying others if need be.
MEK
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it was hard rock and the look of surprise on ian andersons face(lol). and it
was really interesting to see the awards comm give metallica a token award I
forget it was best new artist I think. (when they had already been a band
for 8 years.)
lars had some funny comments on that fiasco.
Scott
art is imitation--this doesnt mean that people dont
imitate unconsciously or indirectly on deeper levels--
who's arrogant or just simply in a bad mood here?
every ripple has its source!
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'We let him know that we are one, and he has our
support, but we just
want
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it was hard rock and the look of surprise on ian andersons face(lol). and
it
was really interesting to see the awards comm give metallica a token award
I
forget it was best new artist I think
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] messed around with filters and
compression to make the sounds now known as:
Finished
his set with a Radiohead track from Kid A according to my mates, I don't
have the album - a nice electronic track.
He did the same thing in Leeds! How
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick
Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] messed around with filters and
compression to make the sounds now known as:
Nick (Dj Pacific:)
--- electric seth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: Well, just in case anyone's forgotten (and
Just a query, but how many UK 313'ers are gonna be there,
The 19th contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more
details...
Nick (Dj Pacific:)
--- electric seth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: Well, just in case anyone's forgotten (and
doesn't
fancy spending a weekend
on the Welsh coast in the worst storm Britain has
seen for fifty years) Carl
Craig's playing
Sounds like you aren't letting someone assert their opinion. Seems like
there's a lot of that on the list today.
er..
The opinion was already stated. Impossible to prevent something that
already happened, right? (or so big momma used to say..)
So sloppy in execution? what did they think
that does sound like Sting.
on 10/3/00 1:06 AM, ryan burns at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He played this track with vocals that sound like the pop artist
STING, i think.. the vocals say the world is going down or something like
that. does anyone know what it is?
You're probably describing the recent remix, but the
welll,
that's funny you say that about Moodymann and his Princeisms, I took a
girlfriend with me who doesn't know this music and she thought he was
dramatic and hilarious
She also thought the same thing about C.C.
I saw a friend there who felt that it should have been held
Sounds like you aren't letting someone assert their opinion. Seems like
there's a lot of that on the list today.
So sloppy in execution? what did they think it was a gymnastics meet?
Its no wonder that people like that make comments like that when they come
to events like that and expect to
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Subject: [313] Carl Craig - Designer Music Live in NY
In case NY-area 313 peepz didn't know...
Saturday, September 30
DESIGNER MUSIC LIVE featuring CARL CRAIG
performing many of his classic tunes and remixes from the Designer Music
album
KENNY DIXON JR. aka
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speaking of Carl Craig and Innerzone Orchestra,
I just found
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Subject: [313] Carl Craig Friends in NYC 7.13.00
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:18:51 EDT
For you New Yorkers out there, I thought you might want to check this...
Carl Craig Friends
(featuring members of Innerzone Orchestra)
plus opening act
speaking of Carl Craig and Innerzone Orchestra,
I just found (and purchased) a white label of
the People Make The World Go Round remixes
(the first round). I'm sick with the flu as I type this
so hope this makes sense: if the side that introduces
Norma Jean Bell and KDJ etc is the KDJ mix, who
is
At 07:19 PM 7/10/2000 -0300, you wrote:
speaking of Carl Craig and Innerzone Orchestra,
I just found (and purchased) a white label of
the People Make The World Go Round remixes
(the first round). I'm sick with the flu as I type this
so hope this makes sense: if the side that introduces
Norma Jean
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Subject: Re: [313] carl craig at cranbrook
was there also... unfortunately, i sat on the right side of the auditorium,
right next to one
Hello,
This idea goes back a lot further, you would have to look into academic
electronic circles for the beginning of concept. Off hand, Edgard Varese
and Stockhausen both employed this concept in their installation work in
the 1950's. I am sure there were other using this concept in their
The drummer was Francisco Mora. Innerzone Orchestra.
Roger John Lesinski Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 06/22/00 02:24 PM
I also so saw Carl Craig at Cranbrook a few summers ago, it was pretty
interesting, especially seeing all those old flyers. Robert Hood, (I think so)
was also supposed to play
was there also... unfortunately, i sat on the right side of the auditorium,
right next to one of the surround speakers. the best place to be was
directly in the middle, as carl was controlling the feeds sent to each
speaker and to get the full impact of the effect you needed to be in the
Recloose was doing some scratch accompaniment to Carl's controls. Franscisco
Mora was the drummer providing beats as well. I don't think Carl was directly
controlling Recloose's gear. Maybe he controlled which speaker it was
distributed? Not sure.
Anyone remember the other group that
It may not be the same reference but Pink Floyd had done the same thin in
London @30 years prior. They had set up 360 speakers at 1 degree intervals
in a large cirucular auditorium. Each speaker had a different tone so the
same sort of effect would occur. fascinating concept.
On Thu, 22 Jun
Does anybody have an idea how long mr. Craig is staying in Australia? He is
supposed to play Saturday in the Belgian Fuse-club and that was just
perfect
for me to interview him for Bassic Groove concerning the festival (and the
rest of his amazing career). The boys from Fuse told me that it
Yes, Carl Craig's Paperclip People plays Atomic Energy live at the Old
Queens Theatre on Sunday with The Advent, Bad Company, et al.
I'm disappointed to hear about the reception to Claude Young - no headaches
this time, or at least not of that kind I mentioned last night. It was no
doubt
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Subject: (313) Carl Craig CD'S
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This is a REAL THREAT!
If you want to look at the text of the virus, it's at
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I replaced all occurrences of the SCRIPT tag with SCR*PT, so it
should be safe to look
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any email transmitted virus is carried as an attachment. as far
any news about the festival in May from Carl Craig in Detroit??
or dates???
peace
the rebels...out
At 01:27 AM 03/18/2000 +0100, Rebelbass wrote:
any news about the festival in May from Carl Craig in Detroit??
or dates???
peace
the rebels...out
Subject: 2000 IN DETROIT
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:46:52 -0500
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Organization:
any news about the festival in May from Carl Craig in Detroit??
or dates???
I know Pop Culture Media was at the Velvet Lounge last Sunday signing up
volunteers for the fest. Also Barabra from Pop Culture Media says the web
site should be up very soon. There is also a tentative date in
Carl Craig will be spinning at Spiro's in Austin, TX on Friday, March 17 as
part of the South By Southwest Music and Media Conference.
Also on the bill Coy West (Austin, TX)
Carl is on at 1 am.
PW
PE
NY
For those concerned...
Contrary to the the rumor, Carl Craig will not be DJ'ing at I/O Coffeehouse
tonight (March 7). While he was scheduled to play this past Sunday, March 5,
this gig was cancelled. There are no plans for Carl to play at I/O in the
immediate future.
Apologies for the
I can assure you that it was not anything off the hard hitting Kalamazoo
techno imprint. Asylum seakers has a vocal of Lets get highso
high..blah blah ...
I FEEL GOOD in the same voice as many other BN pressings (House of God etc..)
It does have that whole cameras ready prepare
Actually...it's the forthcoming Common Factor single...
pw
pe
ny
In a message dated 3/2/00 6:51:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nick Craddock wrote:
- Does anyone know the name of that wicked house track that he played,
which
had a really uplifting vocal which went I feel alright, the
Thanks very much for the information.
That track's THE BOMB!!
Nick Craddock
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Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig on Saturday
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:28:06 EST
Actually...it's the forthcoming Common
Nick Craddock wrote:
- Does anyone know the name of that wicked house track that he played, which
had a really uplifting vocal which went I feel alright, the world is good!
(or something similar)?
It might have been Vice - Asylum Seekers (Black Nation) ?
It has vocals somewhat similar to
Techno family reuninion type thingy.
diana
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Subject: (313) Carl Craig to organise an Electronic Music Fest ?
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:05:15 PST
I´ve read somewhere that Carl Craig is supposed to organise an Electronic
Music Fest
Yeah, I know this thread's finished, but I've got new info / questions
did anyone hear what he finished with? i was frog marched outtadere
- My mate, who stayed longer than me said that 'No Way Back' was either
Carl's last track, or even the first track of the guy after him.
- Does
Does anyone know the name of that wicked
house track that he played, which had a
really uplifting vocal which went I feel alright,
the world is good! (or something similar)?
Could be a few different ones, but it sounds like It's Alright, I Feel It
from NuYorican Soul (aka Masters at Work).
Does anyone know the name of that wicked
house track that he played, which had a
really uplifting vocal which went I feel alright,
the world is good! (or something similar)?
Could be a few different ones, but it sounds like It's Alright, I Feel It
from NuYorican Soul (aka Masters at Work).
this Shoutcast wasn't workin worth a damn for me.. anybody else get a good
connection?
-t
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is anybody taping this event onto audio???
would kill for a copy
but a trade might be more suitable!
jason
wednesday, february 9, 2000
(an innovative night in electronic music) - 2 year anniversary
located at the blind pig - 208 s. first, ann arbor
featuring: a/ 4 turnable tag team (carl craig, kenny larkin)
b/ detroit grand pubahs (carlos souffront, craig gonzalez)
info:
I want to clear up some information onm this email:
Here is the correct info about Wednesday Night:
Wednesday February 9, 2000
Solar
(an innovative night in electronic music)
2 Year anniversary
featuring:
1st time ever -
Carl Craig and Kenny Larkin (4 turntable tag
Who knows? It may or may not be true. Carl's agent was out recently with
Derrick and Kevin. I'm sure it will happen as there is interest in certain
camps. Me, I wanna see the full Innerzone Orchestra - would have been cool
at Vibes On A Summer's Day.
Peace
Cyclone
I heard a rumour:
-
Carl
Carl Craig is quite the juggler: worldwide gigs
performing live solo as Paperclip People and
with his
Innerzone Orchestra project, DJing
more and more as his profile rises, helming his
Planet E label,
and even finding time to produce a folk
group, Custom Blue, for Island
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