30c
https://signaturesolar.com/hyundai-9-15kw-pallet-305w-mono-crystalline-solar-panel-silver-hia-s305hg-full-pallet-30-solar-panels/?fbclid=IwAR3t5-Reci3-hbV_tUsItnahQ1RY1v8pg5c9vlzKM2Gk6gy92Lq_NcyN384
On Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 5:40 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> Good prices:
>
Good prices:
https://solarsteals.com/solar-shop/?gclid=CjwKCAjw_uGmBhBREiwAeOfsdxdIiNPhRXm2ehc7XVz4dSZgvSAbRVS7_kFU7vOany2vAdHENbF5NxoCFYoQAvD_BwE
Best Regards,
Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Drive
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503 Office
435-830-4306 Cell
www
www.terabitnetworks.com
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 9:13 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar
to get me to come to the state of california would require an act of god and a
pile of gold bars. I would rather lick ebola sores and scopp my eyes out
ng.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Daniel Pautz via AF
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 1, 2023 11:19 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Cc:* Daniel Pautz
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar
>>
>>
>> Now if only the installers weren’t so g
an
independent electrician to do the wiring. The grunts can be
trained up to do the bulk of the wiring.
*From:* Daniel Pautz via AF
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 1, 2023 11:19 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Cc:* Daniel Pautz
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar
Now if only
>
>
> *From:* Daniel Pautz via AF
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 1, 2023 11:19 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* Daniel Pautz
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar
>
>
> Now if only the installers weren’t so greedy. Chuck know of any good
> commercial / i
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench.pro
www.terabitnetworks.com
From: Cassidy B. Larson
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 1:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar
Looking at building a new home and been eyeing these:
https://www.dyaqua.it/invisiblesolar/_en/index.php
Sure
oun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf
> Of Trey Scarborough
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2023 10:16 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar
>
> Wow I'm going to have to check these guys out there just down the street from
> me. I
to mount them up. Once mounted hire an independent
electrician to do the wiring. The grunts can be trained up to do the bulk of
the wiring.
From: Daniel Pautz via AF
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 11:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Daniel Pautz
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar
Now
Now if only the installers weren’t so greedy. Chuck know of any good
commercial / industrial installers? Considering a big 500kw + install up here
in Ogden.
From: AF On Behalf Of Trey Scarborough
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2023 10:16 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar
Wow
Figure out where they buy panels from
From: Trey Scarborough
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 10:15 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar
Wow I'm going to have to check these guys out there just down the street from
me. I actually almost moved in to that complex when I
/31/23 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
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Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: [AFMUG] Solar
Just bought a pallet of new 490 watt panels for 40 cents per watt.
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From: Cameron Crum
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 9:51 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] ; Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar
How many panels in a pallet?
On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 6:33 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Beene Brothers Ventures LLC
2090 Fm157
, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
> wrote:
>
>
> Not bad. Where did you order from?
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G, an AT 5G smartphone
>
>
>
> Original message
> From: Chuck McCown via AF
> Date: 7/31/23 6:20
gt;
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G, an AT 5G smartphone
>
>
>
> Original message
> From: Chuck McCown via AF
> Date: 7/31/23 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Cc: Chuck McCown
> Subject: [AFMUG] Solar
>
> Just bought
Not bad. Where did you order from?
Thanks,
Jim
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G, an AT 5G smartphone
Original message
From: Chuck McCown via AF
Date: 7/31/23 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: [AFMUG] Solar
Just bought a pallet of new
Just bought a pallet of new 490 watt panels for 40 cents per watt.
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of
Diesel.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:16 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup
Regardless of maintenance and upkeep, the thing I can see right up front would
be energy density. How many propane semis
s it that makes diesel more attractive for the larger generators?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2022 9:23 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup
>
>
>
> You c
for the tank is that
huge of a problem (but I’ve never done it either).
What is it that makes diesel more attractive for the larger generators?
From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 9:23 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel
*Mark Radabaugh
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:55 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup
>
>
>
> When I looked at propane for a standby generator at the data center I
> calculated it out as a 3000 gal tank at
Wouldn’t diesel gel at -20F?
From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:55 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup
When I looked at propane for a standby generator at the data center I
calculated it out
> Of Sean Heskett
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:44 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup
>
>
>
> In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5.
>
>
Of * Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:44 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup
>
>
>
> In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5.
>
>
>
> We are at 40 north so
gt;> for a grid tie with a small heater on the carb that runs on grid power.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: AF On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:44 PM
&
erything I have found commercially available is setup
> for a grid tie with a small heater on the carb that runs on grid power.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:44 PM
> *To:
power.
Thanks,
Brandon
From: AF On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:44 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup
In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5.
We are at 40 north so we tilt
at noon today.
From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:19 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup
Yeah, don't let an installer set them for max energy over a year like they
would for grid tie.Optimize
Yeah, don't let an installer set them for max energy over a year like they
would for grid tie.Optimize them for the worst winter day.
On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 1:17 PM Bill Prince wrote:
> That is close to what we used at the 37th parallel. We set our panels at
> 60 degrees. That gave us close
That is close to what we used at the 37th parallel. We set our panels at
60 degrees. That gave us close to maximum sun at the winter solstice,
and we still had excess energy during the summer months. The summer sun
is long enough and strong enough that you don't need the panels pointed
: Saturday, November 12, 2022 1:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup
In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5.
We are at 40 north so we tilt the panels at about 65*
40 + 23.5 = 63.5*
At that angle when
In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5.
We are at 40 north so we tilt the panels at about 65*
40 + 23.5 = 63.5*
At that angle when there’s any amount of direct sunlight it slides pretty
quick.
But we also have a propane generator on-site because the stars don’t
This would be why they started making bi-facial solar panels, reflected
ground illumination increases the panel output, according to some ads,
as much as 20%... (YMMV)
On 11/11/22 5:25 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I never discovered any solution other than the foam. You can point a
I powered it by co2. So carbonated beet juice. It clogged everything.
Propylene glycol works good.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 11, 2022, at 5:18 PM, Jason McKemie
> wrote:
>
> Chuck had a few that he had tested, I seem to remember something about beet
> juice...
>
>> On Friday,
I never discovered any solution other than the foam. You can point a separate
panel or array at the ground so you can catch reflected light off the ground.
We discovered that by accident.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 11, 2022, at 4:01 PM, James Howard wrote:
>
>
> I have a vague memory
Chuck had a few that he had tested, I seem to remember something about beet
juice...
On Friday, November 11, 2022, James Howard wrote:
> I have a vague memory of a thread in bygone years about testing different
> kinds of coatings to help with buildup of snow/ice but I can’t find the
> thread
I have a vague memory of a thread in bygone years about testing different
kinds of coatings to help with buildup of snow/ice but I can't find the
thread and don't remember if it was about solar panels or dish antennas.
The only thing I can find when I search my archive is about using froth-pak
I think they come from solar farms. They must replace whole sections if
they get damaged, or something like that.
A lot of them say they have the labels removed, so they can't be used for
grid-tie, but for off-grid projects, I can't see any obvious reason why
it'd be a bad idea, other than that
a1solarastore.com is where I buy mine, mainly because they have a
fulfillment center nearby in sacramento.
Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Critical Infrastructure Service Provider
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com
On
Battery hookup has some used panels
On Sat, Jul 9, 2022, 12:48 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> Looking to do a couple of solar projects.
> What is up with all the used panels on Ebay? Where do they come from?
> I wonder if it is a mistake to buy used panels?
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Looking to do a couple of solar projects.
What is up with all the used panels on Ebay? Where do they come from?
I wonder if it is a mistake to buy used panels?
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panel, harvest the energy AND have it be the shading method
as well?
Thank you,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Monday, July 12, 2021 9:55 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade
: Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet
Figuring out how/where you need to have a device to shade a box should be the
exact same process and figuring out the best place to mount a solar panel
shouldn’t it? If fact wouldn’t logic dictate that you put in a solar panel,
harvest the energy
?
Thank you,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 9:55 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet
Shade moves, but maybe you only concern yourself with where
100 watts
so that is probably the major difference.
We just use a color called satellite white. I don’t think
it matters much.
*From:* castarritt
*Sent:* Friday, July 9, 2021 9:26 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] S
difference.
>>>> We just use a color called satellite white. I don’t think it matters
>>>> much.
>>>>
>>>> From: castarritt
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 9:26 AM
>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>&g
McCown via AF wrote:
>
>> My tests had very little live load. I think only 100 watts so that is
>> probably the major difference.
>> We just use a color called satellite white. I don’t think it matters
>> much.
>>
>> *From:* castarritt
>> *Sent:* Frida
ttle live load. I think only 100 watts so that is
>> probably the major difference.
>> We just use a color called satellite white. I don’t think it matters much.
>>
>> From: castarritt
>> Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 9:26 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Gr
h.
>
> *From:* castarritt
> *Sent:* Friday, July 9, 2021 9:26 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet
>
> Chuck, is there a specific paint you used to shield against solar
> radiation? I rolled a gallon of whit
My tests had very little live load. I think only 100 watts so that is probably
the major difference.
We just use a color called satellite white. I don’t think it matters much.
From: castarritt
Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 9:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG
Chuck, is there a specific paint you used to shield against solar
radiation? I rolled a gallon of white elastomeric roof coating from home
depot onto one of our DDB boxes, and while it did drop the temp slightly,
the results weren't that impressive. I think the issue with our test is we
chose a
is not worth it to completely shade the cabinet vs. just
>> painting it Sat White?
>>
>> From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
>> Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 12:20 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Cc: Chuck McCown
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar a
the cabinet vs. just
> painting it Sat White?
>
> From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
> Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 12:20 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Cc: Chuck McCown
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet
>
> 20+ years ago
12:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber
Cabinet
20+ years ago,
I set up 4 identical outdoor enclosures
Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet
20+ years ago, I set up 4 identical outdoor enclosures. Temp telemetry. Some
live load, don’t remember the details. They were about 24” cubes. All started
out as gray. Tried sun shields, exterior insulation
We recently discussed the idea of using solar panels as a sun
shade. You'd have to place them strategically, but it would
accomplish the main task of getting the sun off the enclosure(s).
The white paint works pretty well too. Burt Rutan did some
temperature
20+ years ago, I set up 4 identical outdoor enclosures. Temp telemetry. Some
live load, don’t remember the details. They were about 24” cubes. All started
out as gray. Tried sun shields, exterior insulation, vents, fans, peltier
cooling modules. Silver paint, white paint. The
Super hot out here in Utah.
My fiber cabinets running Active switches are getting harder to maintain and AC
units on the side of the cabinets are starting to fail faster.
I've had the thought of shading them with a permanent four post structure and a
reflective white painted cover to shade
ink. And the shipping cost was not
> that
> much more.
> So the shipping probably jumps when you fill one full pallet. But it is
> pretty flat until you get there.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Andrews
> Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 4:15 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
>
@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar panels
Yes, I just bought 6 of the 375 watt panels for less than 600 plus $240
shipping, which is now a significant portion of the cost.
On 6/4/21 11:04 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
That is a good deal. I found 17 cents in china, but this appears to be US
based
ps://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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*Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 1:09:14 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
kind that affect the clear top layer?
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*From:* AF on behalf of Bill Prince
*Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 1:09:14 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] solar panels
, June 4, 2021 11:59 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] solar panels
I haven't seen anything that will beat this. $45/panel for 224watts.
https://shop.signaturesolar.us/products/224w-60cell-silver-poly-solar-panel-by-sharp
On 6/4/21 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Who has the best
riday, June 4, 2021 1:59 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] solar panels
>
>
> Yeah, I suppose some kind of continuous load that will take whatever the
> panel can put outlike a big resistor with a heat sink.
>
> Then meter the WH output. Do it in a dark room
https://eternalsunspire.com/app/uploads/181219-Temperature-control-box3-1280x854.jpg
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 1:59 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar panels
Yeah, I suppose some kind of continuous load that will take whatever the panel
can put outlike
were characterizing factory seconds that we got by the truck loads.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 1:59 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar panels
Yeah, I suppose some kind of continuous load that will take whatever the panel
can put outlike a big resistor
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>
*Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 1:09:14 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] solar panels
Some of the used ones list defects in the description. Saw
one
-
>> *From:* AF on behalf of Bill Prince <
>> part15...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 1:09:14 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] solar panels
>>
>>
>> Some of the used ones list defects in the descriptio
ilto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>
*Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 1:09:14 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] solar panels
Some of the used ones list
Age for sure. 20 year old panels will not have nearly the output of new ones.
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 1:05 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar panels
How do you guage a level of used on solar panels? Age? Visual issues? Can you
test
*Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 1:09:14 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] solar panels
>
>
> Some of the used ones list defects in the description. Saw one that said
> "cracked", and another said "snail tracks". WTH are snail tracks?
>
>
>
Ah... that figures.
On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 1:09 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> Went to buy some, shipping is more than the panel.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 12:03 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] solar panels
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 11:59 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar panels
I haven't seen anything that will beat this. $45/panel for 224watts.
https://shop.signaturesolar.us/products/224w-60cell-silver-poly-solar-panel-by-sharp
On 6/4/21 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Who ha
Ah, they are used. I wonder how much used...
From: Robert
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 11:59 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re:
Went to buy some, shipping is more than the panel.
From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 12:03 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar panels
I came across this place awhile ago, seems like they have some pretty decent
deals, especially if you can use
Ah, they are used. I wonder how much used...
From: Robert
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 11:59 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar panels
I haven't seen anything that will beat this. $45/panel for 224watts.
https://shop.signaturesolar.us/products/224w-60cell-silver-poly-solar
That is a good deal. I found 17 cents in china, but this appears to be US
based?
From: Robert
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 11:59 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar panels
I haven't seen anything that will beat this. $45/panel for 224watts.
https://shop.signaturesolar.us
ey opened a second
> warehouse in Phoenix. But that was 10 years ago.
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 11:37 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] solar panels
>
> Who h
I haven't seen anything that will beat this. $45/panel for 224watts.
https://shop.signaturesolar.us/products/224w-60cell-silver-poly-solar-panel-by-sharp
On 6/4/21 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Who has the best deals for solar panels these days?
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in business or not. Seems like they opened a second
warehouse in Phoenix. But that was 10 years ago.
From: Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 11:37 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: [AFMUG] solar panels
Who has the best deals for solar panels these days
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I would buy telecom batts.
https://www.serverrack.com/content/documents/NSB_Red_Battery_Info.pdf
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 12:36 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar/Battery for Micro-PoP
Depending on which way you go, using more smaller-voltage
1.5 watt hour per cubic inch roughly.
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 9:15 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar/Battery for Micro-PoP
Out of curiousity, what does 16kwh storage look like? That seems to be a lot of
battery.
On Tue, Jan 12
021 11:55 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar/Battery for Micro-PoP
If your load is 50W, then you need to deal with ~~ 1.2 KWH
of energy
usage per day (50*24).
We don't know your latitude,
in line with Bill's recommendation.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bill Prince
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 11:55 AM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar/Battery for Micro-PoP
>>
>> If your load is 50W, then you need to deal with
with a real winter, I would
say:
1000W of panel. (20X load)
16 kWh storage. (14 days autonomy)
So right in line with Bill's recommendation.
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From: Bill Prince
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storage. (14 days autonomy)
>
> So right in line with Bill's recommendation.
>
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> From: Bill Prince
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> If your load is 50W,
, January 12, 2021 12:15 PM
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Since we're talking about a relatively small
system, I would base whether to do a 24v or 48v
system on what the majority of the load is going
to be. If it's going to be like 70% 24v g
ou can make do with smaller batts. Better yet put in a small
> propane powered generator with either a low voltage relay for starting or
> telemetry for starting.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2021 12:15 PM
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12:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar/Battery for Micro-PoP
Since we're talking about a relatively small system, I would base whether to do
a 24v or 48v system on what the majority of the load is going to be. If it's
going to be like 70% 24v gear, I'd go
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar/Battery for Micro-PoP
If your load is 50W, then you need to deal with ~~ 1.2 KWH of energy
usage per day (50*24).
We don't know your latitude, or location, so you will have to plug in
whatever solar values are typical for your area. However, a good rule of
thumb
Since we're talking about a relatively small system, I would base whether
to do a 24v or 48v system on what the majority of the load is going to be.
If it's going to be like 70% 24v gear, I'd go with 24v, but otherwise, I'd
probably lean towards 48v.
Bill's numbers look about right for what you'd
Yeah, solar great, TVWS not so great.
-Original Message-
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 11:55 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar/Battery for Micro-PoP
If your load is 50W, then you need to deal with ~~ 1.2 KWH of energy
usage per day (50*24
If your load is 50W, then you need to deal with ~~ 1.2 KWH of energy
usage per day (50*24).
We don't know your latitude, or location, so you will have to plug in
whatever solar values are typical for your area. However, a good rule of
thumb for mid-latitude areas is to have enough battery for
Hi,
I'm considering some fixed wireless (TVWS) trials and/or the ability
to deliver temporary service where there's no available power source.
I've done some basic solar system calculations (and there are plenty
of calculators) but I'm looking for some real world pointers from
those that
20X the load and 2 weeks of battery autonomy saves
>> you from expensive helicopter rides in the middle of winter. So that is why
>> I am recommending 10X for you. I think Bill once said he can get by with
>> 10X down where he lives.
>>
>> From: Gino A. Villarin
Yeah, we are inclined towards Lithium
From: AF
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 11:03 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar calculator?
But you want to only take a lead battery to 1/2 that to avoid decreasing the
longevity of them, so double the battery size
Thanks Chuck!
From: AF
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 5:41 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar calculator?
30 watts * 24 *14 = approx 10 kWh. So you need a 10 kWh battery. 10 kWh/48 =
210 Ah 48 volt battery.
Now, I have lotsa experience at my latitude
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From: AF
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 4:36 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
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helicopter rides in the
middle of winter. So that is why I am recommending 10X for you. I
think Bill once said he can get by with 10X down where he lives.
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