Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

Traffic lights? Metro traffic control itself (stop lights, etc) is all done via computer algo, sensors, and traffic modeling now. It also often takes into account bus schedules, work days, events, and train traffic (if it blocks major roadways). On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting request

Reminds me of a line from "The Last Boy Scout:" Bad Guy: "I want to hear you scream." Bruce Willis: "Play some rap music." On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > And Josh, I did redact my statement correctly. I paraphrased Tower of > Power's classic , You're Still A Young Man

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

Ah, re-reading, you meant regular traffic control, not air traffic control (which is what the thread was about). Most of the same applies. Most lights are independent from the rest of the system. There's no ability for the system to adjust timing based on system demand. Those systems exist, bu

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

Most people use * instead of the degrees as it's easier to type. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Bill Prince" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:26:16 PM Subject: R

[AFMUG] Dedciated Contract

My dedicated clients so far have not actually asked for paperwork (contract, terms and conditions, defined SLA, etc.). It was just verbal, though they are given the white glove treatment. I now have someone asking for all of that. Could you guys send over samples of the paperwork you use? Th

Re: [AFMUG] Updates on Windows 10 - how to cope?

if you have a Procera box you can limit the Windows Updates so that they don't use more than 25-50% of their entire connection. On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I can confirm behavior already observed by other people on this > mailing list, Windows 10 updates behave like to

Re: [AFMUG] B11

What price range is a Huawei link in? On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 2:47 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > You cannot directly compare 11 to 80 GHz. Totally different market. I > can't do beyond 2.5 km at real five to six nines uptime with 80 GHz (even > with +18 Tx power radios). > > I can do 60 km with 11 if

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

If you think airlines and traffic control are “legacy” … you should look at some government systems out there - they make airlines look modern ;) > On Aug 10, 2016, at 7:39 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Ah, re-reading, you meant regular traffic control, not air traffic control > (which is what

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

I have no doubt in that. At one point not long ago, the state had some 60 or 70 different financial systems with few to none that could talk to each other and they were all "too old to replace". Um, that means they DO need to be replaced... like now. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computi

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

Except in Reno, where it is all fixed with the stupidest schedules possible to delay traffic to the maximum possible. On 8/10/16 12:14 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Traffic lights? Metro traffic control itself (stop lights, etc) is all done via computer algo, sensors, and traffic modeling now. It

Re: [AFMUG] B11

How stable of a structure do you need for 70/80Ghz? Self standing rohn 45 @ 55 ft too much? It's bracketed at 25ft. On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > What price range is a Huawei link in? > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 2:47 AM, Eric Kuhnke > wrote: > >> You cannot directly

Re: [AFMUG] Imagination of my 8 yr old engineer to be

The Universal Measurement On 08/09/2016 04:54 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Nope... Time management On Aug 9, 2016 3:11 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" > wrote: I think you guys (Ken and Jamie) have time to surf the web everyday LOL - Original M

[AFMUG] Phone Service with Calix Gigacenter

We have a few resort type properties looking for phone service. Assuming we already have a gigcenter in each unit, what are our options for adding voice? I'm guessing we would need some sort of SIP provider but I'm not sure if we would need anything extra at the E7-2 end. Would the gigacenters j

Re: [AFMUG] Imagination of my 8 yr old engineer to be

Good leaders will have rules or directives to keep them focused on what matters most. This is why I like hiring military especially those with more than 6yrs in. I have a tech who recently ETS from the army at 4yrs from duty station in Hawaii. Lets just say he has not had the opportunity to lea

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

As long as we can maintain one time standard... bp On 8/9/2016 8:59 AM, George Skorup wrote: More reliable timing trumps my hate for Russia.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

I just use my handy dandy ° key. bp On 8/10/2016 4:44 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Most people use * instead of the degrees as it's easier to type. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

[AFMUG] How a 1967 Solar Storm Nearly Led to Nuclear War.. You prepared?

https://news.google.com/news/ampviewer?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Famp.space.com%2F33687-solar-storm-cold-war-false-alarm.html#pt0-74536

Re: [AFMUG] Updates on Windows 10 - how to cope?

You can change the way that windows gets/sends updates. Turn off "internet", and only allow "LAN". bp On 8/9/2016 8:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: There's no way for the user to limit consumption...at least not that I can see. There are a couple of ways to stop it from /ever/ updating, but rea

[AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

Hey... not sure if everyone saw this... Netflix just released their own speed test system. It has a web interface, but they also released apps for IOS and Android. They claim it runs on "the same servers" as the actual content, so it provides more accurate results. http://www.phonearena.com/ne

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened 12v battery chargers/mantainers

I like to move the generator battery into the temperature controlled environment of whatever it is backing up. And then put a larger float charger on it. The ones with the conditioner seem to work well. Have used them on airplanes too. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 9:3

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

Remember the original “Italian Job”. Just load a 9 track tape... 1969 From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure Traffic lights? Metro traffic control itself (stop lights, etc) is all done via computer algo, sensors, a

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

Not me, I use ° From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 5:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna Most people use * instead of the degrees as it's easier to type. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Bro

Re: [AFMUG] Phone Service with Calix Gigacenter

Yep, that is all you need. We have our own SIP switch so no recommendations there. Lots of providers out there. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 7:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Phone Service with Calix Gigacenter We have a few resort type properties looking fo

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

I just realized this is fast.com. I wonder how much they had to pay for that domain?? Travis On 8/10/2016 7:41 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Hey... not sure if everyone saw this... Netflix just released their own speed test system. It has a web interface, but they also released apps for IOS and

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

Like 60 bucks? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 10, 2016 10:03 AM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: > I just realized this is fast.com. I wonder how much they had to pay for > that domain?? > > Travis > > > On 8/10/2016 7:41 AM, Travis

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

I like ° myself On Wed, Aug 10, 2016, 8:59 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > Not me, I use ° > > *From:* Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2016 5:44 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna > Most people use * instead of the degrees as it's easier to type. >

Re: [AFMUG] Phone Service with Calix Gigacenter

Anyone have a provider that they like? In this market we don't have our own network yet so we are feeding each E7-2 with a fiber feed from another provider so I'd like to do this without additional on-site hardware. On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Yep, that is all you ne

Re: [AFMUG] Updates on Windows 10 - how to cope?

Adam, No answer from me to your questions but that’s for the first hand info. We have also seen an increase of speed complaints on solid connections lately. I too had suspected windows updates. Best regards, Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net www.gogebicrange

Re: [AFMUG] Phone Service with Calix Gigacenter

We used voipinovations when we did voip. Can't say I would highly recommend them. I have seen worse though.i Hanne heard good things about bandwidth.com. of course if you don't mind paying a little more while getting more reliability I think it is hard to beat level3. On Wed, Aug 10, 2016, 9:14 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Phone Service with Calix Gigacenter

It's not just a question of a provider, it also involves a bit more on the business side and technical side.. do you wish to outsource everything ? or do you wish to run it with an inhouse system ? How to prevent abuse ? How to secure the system ? How to identify/trouble shoot issues ? Regulat

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

Uhhmm... The small town I came from had an adaptive control system since roughly 2006, with green wave programming on major thoroughfares. This info here may be slightly out of date, but here you go: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_light_control_and_coordination On Aug 10, 2016 6

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

The systems exist, but they're rare. If it had a stoplight, it wasn't a small town. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

The county has about 120k. To anybody in any remotely major metro, I was a "hick from a podunk". On Aug 10, 2016 10:24 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > The systems exist, but they're rare. > > If it had a stoplight, it wasn't a small town. ;-) > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Sol

[AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

Google Fiber considering fixed microwave technology as alternative to fiber. Interesting times! http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/google-fiber-delays-san-jose-project-may-switch-to-wireless-instead/?comments=1

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

It's apparently "too expensive" to do underground fiber. At least in San Jose. Anyone know anything about Webpass? bp On 8/10/2016 9:44 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: Google Fiber considering fixed microwave technology as alternative to fiber. Interesting times! http://arstechnica.com/informat

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

*nods* They've been mentioned on the lists a few times. They use a lot of Siklu. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Bill Prince" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

this is why they acquired Webpass. Webpass uses a ton of 80 GHz Siklu. On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > Google Fiber considering fixed microwave technology as alternative to > fiber. Interesting times! > > http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/ > 08/google-f

Re: [AFMUG] B11

Depends on your distance, if you're going 1 km vs. 2.5 to 4 km It is definitely a VERY narrow beam width. Particularly with 60cm antennas. I wouldn't do it on anything that sways. On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 6:07 AM, Joe Novak wrote: > How stable of a structure do you need for 70/80Ghz? Self

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

Wait until they experience ducting ;) - Original Message - From: Bill Prince To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? It's apparently "too expensive" to do underground fiber. At least in San Jose. Any

Re: [AFMUG] B11

I'm talking 706 FT, give or take 6 inches On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Depends on your distance, if you're going 1 km vs. 2.5 to 4 km > > It is definitely a VERY narrow beam width. Particularly with 60cm > antennas. I wouldn't do it on anything that sways. > > > > O

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

So, I get it. You guys are sitting around feeling so smug with your WISP. We're talking about one of the largest and most powerful companies in the world though. Do you really think they don't have some of the best RF engineering talent in the world on their payroll? They're not doing anything di

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

On 8/10/16 09:59, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: Wait until they experience ducting ;) In the bay area hopping between buildings? Not likely in the top ten for potential problems. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

i see it as a great step for the industry! getting validation from one of the top tech companies in the world ! someone should get them to wispalooza On Wednesday, August 10, 2016, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 8/10/16 09:59, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > >> >> Wait until they experience ducting ;) >>

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel through the eye of a needle. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? So, I get it. You guys are sitting aroun

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

I agree I'm not feeling so smug about my WISP tho. I mean, i'm happy i have it...but... - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? So, I get it. You guys are si

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

But I bet they can thread a needle through the eye of a camel. bp On 8/10/2016 10:28 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel through the eye of a needle.

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

I have looked this phrase up, but I still don't understand it. On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel through > the eye of a needle. > > -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Wednesday, August 10,

Re: [AFMUG] Updates on Windows 10 - how to cope?

Bill, that prevents you from sharing updates across the internet so you're not getting killed in the uplink direction, but you still get crushed in the downlink direction. -- Original Message -- From: "Bill Prince" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/10/2016 9:33:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Updat

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

Interesting. On fast.com I only get 100Mbps so maybe it's capped. Speedtest.net I get over 1000Mbps. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 7:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test Hey...

Re: [AFMUG] Updates on Windows 10 - how to cope?

Only once. We allow updates on one machine. Then we let the other machines get it from the pioneer. bp On 8/10/2016 10:35 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Bill, that prevents you from sharing updates across the internet so you're not getting killed in the uplink direction, but you still get crushe

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

You can't put 12 pounds of shit in a 10 pound bag. You can't get 100 gbps in ~100 MHz of spectrum. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > I have looked this phrase up, but I still d

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

Lovely biblical interpretation. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? You can't put 12 pounds of shit in a 10 pound bag. You can't get 100 gbps in ~100 MHz of spectrum. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

My grampa used to say "you can't put 10 lbs of shit in a 2 lb bag". I didn't realize there were other variants :) The camel thing is used in the bible as a metaphor for something nearly impossible. "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go to

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

we have similar results with fast.com - Original Message - From: Sterling Jacobson To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test Interesting. On fast.com I only get 100Mbps so maybe it's capped. Speedtest.net I ge

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

fast.com is from a netflix CDN server if I recall correctly. I guess they don't plan on anybody streaming 1000mbps. -- Original Message -- From: "Sterling Jacobson" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 8/10/2016 1:43:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test Interesting. On fast.com I only

Re: [AFMUG] Updates on Windows 10 - how to cope?

That sounds like a sound strategy for the LAN. Not sure that I could prevent the customer from having a problem. Maybe it's time to bite the bullet and get Procera. -- Original Message -- From: "Bill Prince" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/10/2016 1:43:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Updates on

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

I think it depends on the path. bp On 8/10/2016 10:43 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Interesting. On fast.com I only get 100Mbps so maybe it's capped. Speedtest.net I get over 1000Mbps. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesd

[AFMUG] WTB: Mimosa B11

Does anyone have a single B11 radio they are willing to sell?

Re: [AFMUG] Updates on Windows 10 - how to cope?

Where do you do your bandwidth shaping now? You may be able to hack something together in mikrotik if your shaping at a central location. On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > That sounds like a sound strategy for the LAN. > Not sure that I could prevent the customer from havi

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

what are they planning on doing with the data collected from the fast.com speedtest is what i am wondering On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:50 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > we have similar results with fast.com > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Sterling Jacobson > *To:* af@afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

The servers are only on 100 meg ports. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > Interesting. > > On fast.com I only get 100Mbps so maybe it's capped. > > Speedtest.net I get over

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

Huh. I'm thinking more along the lines of Netflix customers saying their Speedtest.net saying 50 meg and fast.com saying 2 meg which is why their Netflix keeps buffering which ultimately goes down to calling your ISP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 133

Re: [AFMUG] Phone Service with Calix Gigacenter

Ipifony. They are really good people and will help you 100% of the way. On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > It's not just a question of a provider, it also involves a bit more on the > business side and technical side.. do you wish to outsource everything ? or > do you wish

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

The last time we talked about it on this list, people were getting more than 100 megs on fast.com. I just pulled 270 on fast.com, while I got 786 on speedtest.net fast.com went Zayo - Cogent - Netflix. I tested to a variety of speedtest.net servers and most were around the same speed. I could se

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

I just did a test and saw 150 Mbps On 8/10/2016 12:50 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: fast.com is from a netflix CDN server if I recall correctly. I guess they don't plan on anybody streaming 1000mbps. -- Original Message -- From: "Sterling Jacobson" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 8/10/2016 1:43:

[AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?

Is there a setting or combination of settings for the PMP100 900 MHz hardware that would help it remain connected in higher intermittent noise environments? [Perhaps something that increases retries at the expense of latency?] Thank you - Chris

Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure

DOD was using floppy disks until just this year. I can't believe these Airlines were running servers on XP machines? Thats not even a server OS is it not? Maybe they didn't want to upgrade to 7 so that they could avoid the "free 10 upgrage nagging" On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?

If you go into the affected SM and disable all channels except for the one the AP is on then it will register faster. This doesn't stop the re-reging but makes it less noticeable. I'm generally against that because then you can't change channels, but sometimes you do what you have to do.

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

I looked into doing fiber a couple years back but was too cost prohibitive and was going to require too many employees. Glad I waited because now it looks like we can get fiber type speeds over wireless with some of the new radios coming out. Plus you wont have to worry about someone cutting your f

Re: [AFMUG] Updates on Windows 10 - how to cope?

That's a possibility, but I'm not sure how to classify the traffic. I grabbed a pcap of the windows update, but I haven't looked closely at it yet. The one thing I don't want to do is try to maintain a list of CDN server IP'ssounds like whack a mole. -- Original Message -- From:

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

A bunch of folks on this list doing fiber with very few employees. Wireless is and always will be ersatz fiber at best. From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? I looked into doing fiber a couple year

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

Josh, I bet you Netflix is going to be doing more with the information they are collecting than tell the customer to call the ISP. I wouldn't be surprised if we see whole new round of Net Neutrality lawsuits. On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Huh. I'm thinking more along t

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

If you don't modify the data stream in any way, then there's nothing you can do. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

I can run a WISP by myself, (have been for 12 years), no way to do fiber without any employees. First two good employees is going to cost what? $100k/year? I'm gonna keep on doing it this way as long as i can!!! On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > A bunch of folks on this lis

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

Contractors? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > I can run a WISP by myself, (have been for 12 years), no way to do fiber > without any employees. First two good employees is go

Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?

I hadn't thought of speeding up the re-reg process by unchecking the channels. That may help bandaid some of our customers a bit. Adam Moffett wrote: If you go into the affected SM and disable all channels except for the one the AP is on then it will register faster. This doesn't stop the re-

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

Yep, ask Sterling. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? Contractors? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 2:25 PM, K

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

And other Utah fiber guys =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Yep, ask Sterling. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *

Re: [AFMUG] B11

All in for a Huawei RTN-380 including brackets, antennas, software, licensing, cables, accessories, etc. comes out between about $22k-30k per link depending on which options you pick. Also, if 4Gbps isn't good enough, there is the RTN-380H that does 10G wireless. The specs on this are insane.

Re: [AFMUG] Phone Service with Calix Gigacenter

I would agree. We used iPifony because we were unsure of some of the details Faisal mentioned. They are outstanding. They are not the cheapest but in my opinion, they are the best. Especially if you are unsure of the details of running that business. They will walk you through it all. On Wed, Aug

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

surely - you can't be serious. and don't call me surely... - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test The servers are only on 100 meg ports. Josh Luthman Office: 9

Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?

I used to hear of transmit frame spreading, but i think that went away long long ago - Original Message - From: Christopher Gray To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:05 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise? Is there a set

Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?

until we do a channel change and they can't connect anymore. bad idea IMHO - Original Message - From: Jay Weekley To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise? I hadn't thought of speedi

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

I somehow doubt they are going to see ducting in 3 km 80 GHz links. Rain fade yes. Google has microwave engineers who know what they're doing... And with the acquisition of webpass have acquired staff with many years of cumulative experience with rooftop point to point 60/80 GHz. I have a unique p

Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?

You could try a cavity, pager or band-pass filter if all else fails. On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Christopher Gray < cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: > Is there a setting or combination of settings for the PMP100 900 MHz > hardware that would help it remain connected in higher intermittent

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

And for the company that used to have the slogan "do no evil" and then canceled said slogan, the rich to heaven part may end up being particularly appropriate... Google will be going after those 3.GHz licenses in a big way when they come available... On 08/10/2016 10:48 AM, Adam Moffett wrot

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

theyll be after 3.5 ghz, but not for GoogleFiber projects... On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: > And for the company that used to have the slogan "do no evil" and then > canceled said slogan, the rich to heaven part may end up being particularly > appropriate... Google wil

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

I heard that they were after 3.5 in place of GF installs, similar to their reason for Webpass purchase... On 08/10/2016 01:30 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: theyll be after 3.5 ghz, but not for GoogleFiber projects... On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Robert Andrews mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> w

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

http://www.computerworld.com/article/3055998/networking/google-to-test-innovative-3-5ghz-wireless-in-kansas-city.html On 08/10/2016 01:30 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: theyll be after 3.5 ghz, but not for GoogleFiber projects... On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Robert Andrews mailto:i...@avantwirel

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

We have clearance, Clarence. Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test surely - you can't be serious. and don't call me surely...

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

Yes? (pops head out of hole) I am the only employee, everyone else is contracted. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? Yep, ask Sterling. From: Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?

> If you go into the affected SM and disable all channels except for the one > the AP is on then it will register faster. This doesn't stop the re-reging > but makes it less noticeable. > > I'm generally against that because then you can't change channels, but > sometimes you do what you have to d

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Speed Test

There’s this myth about speedtests that it measures the last mile speed (or as you point out, detects last mile ISPs “throttling Netflix”), despite the traffic following a path something like: Netflix server CDN network transit ISP another transit ISP local ISP customer’s router customer’s WiFi

[AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

I had a decommissioned and powered off LMG OMNI on a pole that also has an EPMP mounted to it. Lightening took out the Omni, as in bits of fiberglass were found around left over from the antenna. The EPMP sector 5' down the pole didn't even reboot. The EPMP along with all Backhauls at the si

Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

Thanks Nate, I really should archive these stories. I always say that every time and I never do. Wish I had saved all the photos over the years of this type of thing. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 4:51 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] WBMFG

Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

Cool... Pics of lightning struck pieces? On Aug 10, 2016 4:51 PM, "Nate Burke" wrote: > I had a decommissioned and powered off LMG OMNI on a pole that also has an > EPMP mounted to it. Lightening took out the Omni, as in bits of fiberglass > were found around left over from the antenna. The EP

Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

If you use Gmail you could simply star it or label it in 0.37 seconds... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Thanks Nate, > I really should archive these stories. I always say tha

Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

Principles do not allow me to use the web interfact. Windows Live Mail forever! From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 5:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story If you use Gmail you could simply star it or label it in 0.37 seconds... Josh Luthm

Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

That is awesome :) - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story Thanks Nate, I really should archive these stories. I always say that every time and I never do.

Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG suppressor success story

This is an old 802.11 lightning magnet, I mean omni, on an UBNT XR2 radio in a MT board. The lightning arrester stopped it. We lost one ethernet surge suppressor on top and the SyncBox12. I was surprised the timing ports on the 900 APs still worked after this. On 8/10/2016 5:53 PM, Jaime Sol

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