Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Space Rebel Uprising

2019-07-25 Thread Nicholas Evans
I'll be a good Agoran if such a proposal makes it through. But I'm also understanding of the reason this limit exists, even if I think 30 days is a bit much. On Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 3:16 PM ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk < ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 2019-07-25 at 07:59 -0700, Kerim Aydin

Re: DIS: Editorial fixes

2019-07-20 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 12:55 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > "Blot" vs "blot": I think this should be "Blot" because it's being used > as > > a proper noun to refer to the single currency, but current consensus > seems > > to be "blot". > > This is incorrect by all style guides (checked three,

DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] Publish/Announce definition fix

2019-07-19 Thread Nicholas Evans
Might be nice to add "unambiguously contains" while we're at it. On Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 11:10 PM Jason Cobb wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > > Title: No, you didn't publish that > > Author: Jason Cobb > > AI: 3 > > Text: > > { > > Amend Rule 478 ("Fora") by replacing the text > >

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-26 Thread Nicholas Evans
I've been reading and have a proposal I want to get out in June (not concerning to current economic game), but need to wait for an updated ruleset, and don't have any plans to do anything in the interim. So feel free to continue to use my zombieness. On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 9:07 PM, Ørjan

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Without Objection is Too Harsh

2018-02-14 Thread Nicholas Evans
It'd also encourage some interesting attempts at shorthand. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:42 PM, ATMunn wrote: > Haven't read the rest of the discussion, but what if there was a rule that > maybe, say, allowed a free pend every week, as long as the proposal is > under some

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Without Objection is Too Harsh

2018-02-14 Thread Nicholas Evans
There's always Agoran Consent. We can make it a trivial ratio, such as 1.1. On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:54 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Sounds fine to me. > > > On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 at 22:48, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > > Last time we did this, 3 players

Re: DIS: Win by paradox?

2018-02-05 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 8:27 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > Well it seems viable to me so I'll give it a shot I guess lol. > (Wielding paradoxes is a weird thing, I hope I'm doing it right). Here are > the proto-actions: > ​​ > > I create a contract by paying 1 shiny to Agora,

Re: DIS: A Fearmongor's Halloween - braaains

2017-10-25 Thread Nicholas Evans
I support. On Oct 25, 2017 9:04 PM, "Kerim Aydin" wrote: > > > [OK, you folks with your forced deregistrations by proposal are rushing > me]. > > PLEASE withdraw those deregistrations. This is a much better idea - Trust > me! > > > Draft Proposal, AI-2 (re-enactment for

Re: DIS: Quick question about rule 1728

2017-10-19 Thread Nicholas Evans
Messages to a-d don't count for deregistration, iirc, but you can make a filter for your own name and just object when anyone attempts the deregistration. On Oct 19, 2017 4:17 PM, "Cuddle Beam" wrote: > Random message to keep self alive. > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:05

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Guaranteed Stampage

2017-09-26 Thread Nicholas Evans
I was intending to propose a minimum value at least for stamps. Same idea different implementation. On Sep 26, 2017 7:00 PM, "Kerim Aydin" wrote: On Tue, 26 Sep 2017, Nic Evans wrote: >If a player has not received one since e most recently became a >player, any

Re: DIS: Screw all of this

2017-09-25 Thread Nicholas Evans
Somewhere on the wiki is instructions for a gmail filter that should save any agora emails that might go to spam. It works for me (i receive all of trigon's emails with a 'saved from spam by filter' notice attached). Someone should dig it up as I'm in transit for the rest of the day. On Sep 25,

Re: DIS: proto: losing conditions

2017-09-24 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Sep 24, 2017 7:19 PM, "Publius Scribonius Scholasticus" < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: I actually think that we should continue to allow scammed wins because it is one of the most interesting parts qqwerr of the game./ Are you qwert alright there?

Re: DIS: proto: losing conditions

2017-09-24 Thread Nicholas Evans
I don't think i feel as strongly as CB but I do feel similarly. Both issues would be fixed with a) decentralizing (my prefered format is similar to a CFJ: separate the finger pointer, referee, and judge) cards and b) allowing forgiveness without apology (perhaps as Agoran Consent). To make up for

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7872-7875

2017-09-13 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Sep 12, 2017 10:00 PM, "Owen Jacobson" wrote: > On Sep 12, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > > I resolve the decision(s) to adopt proposal(s) 78572-7875 as below. > > > > [This

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Severe email problems

2017-09-11 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Sep 11, 2017 1:46 PM, "Kerim Aydin" wrote: Well, the real issue is that, as written, the rules were totally broken. Whether fixing it is called "massive bug fix" or "scam repair" is a side point really... A handful of 'bugs' were intentional (I didn't plan to use

Re: DIS: [very early proto/idea] Inter-Nomic Currency

2017-09-11 Thread Nicholas Evans
Using tge same cyrrency for distinct markets with distinct financial controls is usually a bad idea in the real world where people are incentivized to maintain it. It'll be worse in a virtual world. I'd still support if Subers didn't supplant shinies but rather was exchangeable. On Sep 11, 2017

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Registration Delay Fix

2017-09-10 Thread Nicholas Evans
Simple proto: At the eginning of the m9nth, every player who has 0 stamps and less than the current stamp value in shinies can and may claim enough shinies to have whatever the stamp value was at 00:00 on the first of the month. On Sep 10, 2017 4:46 PM, "Kerim Aydin"

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Clearing up the game state

2017-09-07 Thread Nicholas Evans
Per Assets: "An asset generally CAN be destroyed by its owner by announcement, subject to modification by its backing document." On Sep 7, 2017 3:14 AM, "V.J Rada" wrote: So we need to make that a CAN and add "a stamp they own". I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Monsters

2017-09-05 Thread Nicholas Evans
I really like this. On Sep 5, 2017 9:44 AM, "Kerim Aydin" wrote: > > > Proto: Portfolio wins. > > Estates are worth 10 points each. Stamps are worth 2 points each > Monsters are worth 5 points each. (other possible assets other > than shinies). > >

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Promotor draft report

2017-09-01 Thread Nicholas Evans
I withdraw the proposal titled Debts. On Sep 1, 2017 1:21 AM, "Aris Merchant" wrote: > nichdel, is debts being pulled? I should be releasing fairly soonish (as > in the next day or two). > > -Aris > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 3:30 PM Nic Evans

DIS: Re: OFF: [Reportor] Weekly Report

2017-07-30 Thread Nicholas Evans
This is too funny to fix, for now. On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 10:43 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > Title: I can't believe I get paid for this Weekly Times. > > Reportor notices own position is sinecure, refuses to > work--- >

DIS: Re: BUS: Payment of Pending List Price for Proposal "Agoraculture v. 2.0"

2017-07-30 Thread Nicholas Evans
I assume you got the PLP from the current ruleset. This morning a new economic proposal passed, and it changed the way the price is calculated. Right now the price is 10 shinies (1/20th of something called the 'Floating Value'). The online ruleset lags behind rule changes a bit, which can be

DIS: Re: BUS: Calling 2 CFJs

2017-07-30 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 7:24 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > I hope these are remotely meritorious. I remember some controversy about > whether > the overhaul rule violated 217, I don't agree that it does but I wish to > put it to rest. > > I call a CFJ on "The rule change purporting

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly Report

2017-07-30 Thread Nicholas Evans
I think the duty to publish the report is being filled regardless of if the report ratifies. However, there is the duty of publishing a correc On Jul 30, 2017 18:19, "grok (caleb vines)" <grokag...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Nicholas Evans <ni

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly Report

2017-07-30 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 5:33 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > The Weekly Report of July 3 and the Monthly Report of June 30, if not > earlier. > There was no July 3rd report. There was one published [1] on the 2nd, but it didn't ratify

DIS: Re: BUS: Small round trip

2017-07-21 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I'm a bit embarrassed about everything going on, so I'll deregister. > ​I don't believe there's such a thing as an unforgivable mistake, so I'd be pleased to see you come back sometime. The rest of this is my attempt

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer gives a win to everyone and then hopes to be given one too.

2017-07-20 Thread Nicholas Evans
azo.com/100225cef8b9829cccf2955ec5eb52df.png > > (I assume that Trust Tokens are created when issued.) > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 4:24 PM, Nicholas Evans <nich...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Jul 20, 2017 09:17, "Cuddle Beam" <cuddleb...@gmail.c

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer gives a win to everyone and then hopes to be given one too.

2017-07-20 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Jul 20, 2017 09:17, "Cuddle Beam" wrote: And yes, I agree with that entirely, but I'm considering it from a different framework. I'll relate it back to (and I'm sorry for going around your scam so often, but it's a recent one and it's also about "a X") "a ballot". "A

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer gives a win to everyone and then hopes to be given one too.

2017-07-20 Thread Nicholas Evans
t; exist by virtue of the ruleset right now, but a token of the kind that, for >> example, you could create, is a kind of Token that the Ruleset could >> generate, and that's the kind of Token I attempt to grant, because it's "a >> Token"). >> >> On Thu

DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer gives a win to everyone and then hopes to be given one too.

2017-07-20 Thread Nicholas Evans
But nobody else created them. You're only claiming they did. I point my finger at CB for violation of No Faking. E can't possibly believe e can force otger players to create tokens. On Jul 20, 2017 08:25, "Cuddle Beam" wrote: > I'd prefer to spend a CFJ slot be spent but

DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer gives a win to everyone and then hopes to be given one too.

2017-07-20 Thread Nicholas Evans
You when by bein issued trust tokens _by_ players, so I don't think it matters who tge token is supposedly originally from. Even if you successfully issued a Murphy trust token to me, it was still issued by you and not Murphy. On Jul 20, 2017 08:07, "Cuddle Beam" wrote: >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer attempts a stick-up.

2017-07-10 Thread Nicholas Evans
The argument 'I wouldn't do all that work in order to fake' is fallacious. Of course you would if you thought you could get away with it. I think you constantly violate no faking by purposely misconstruing the rules to have meanings favorable to you, even when those meanings are nonesense. Then

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3532 judged TRUE

2017-07-08 Thread Nicholas Evans
Main problem is that Assessor and Rulekeepor are really demanding for different reasons and it may be difficult to get someone to fill a combined role consistently. On Jul 8, 2017 16:16, "Cuddle Beam" wrote: > "Ghost" Rulesets like the one we have now are disorientating. >

Re: DIS: Trollmode Arbitor

2017-07-08 Thread Nicholas Evans
CFJs aren't really that powerful. They're guidelines, not legally binding. If the guideline is absurd everyone ignores it. On Jul 8, 2017 06:25, "Cuddle Beam" wrote: > Yes, but the Arbitor could then CFJ "I've gotten Pink Slipped" and judge > it as FALSE. > > What would

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Surveyor

2017-07-06 Thread Nicholas Evans
You never depitized. You have to announce intent to depitize for occupied offices. On Jul 6, 2017 06:11, "Cuddle Beam" wrote: > This is a bit of a mess I've caused to him really, lol. I'll help tidy it > up a bit so that things are more clear: > > Gratuitous argument for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

2017-07-02 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Alex Smith <ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> wrote: > On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 15:06 -0500, Nicholas Evans wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Alex Smith <ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> > > wrote: > > > I know, but you never mak

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

2017-07-02 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Alex Smith <ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> wrote: > On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 14:48 -0500, Nicholas Evans wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Alex Smith <ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> > > wrote: > > > I think the AP stuf

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

2017-07-02 Thread Nicholas Evans
I'll have more detailed thoughts later, but overall I'm concerned about Support slowing things down and creating more uncertainty (players having to check if something has received enough Support). In my version, I tried to make the decisions as self-contained as possible so we're not waiting for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Jump In While The Water's Tepid

2017-06-29 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Jun 29, 2017 13:05, "CuddleBeam" wrote: > database. Antagonizing another old, respected player who is currently making > up for that deficit seems to me to be the definition of shooting yourself in > the foot. No amount of respect or other positive feelings I

Re: DIS: 1 person playing as many players?

2017-06-15 Thread Nicholas Evans
I'd support a rule to the effect of "a player can only be banned from Agora by a power-3 (or higher) instrument". That both introduces the concept legally and restricts without adding any other baggage. On Jun 15, 2017 04:43, "Publius Scribonius Scholasticus" <

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Interaction between CFJ 1709 and R869

2017-06-15 Thread Nicholas Evans
It's possibly a violation of No Faking if other people thought it was effective. On Jun 15, 2017 02:01, "Owen Jacobson" wrote: > > > On Jun 13, 2017, at 5:17 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > > > > "I Point My Finger at um... what's your nickname? Kerim, anyway. For >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Judicial Reform

2017-05-30 Thread Nicholas Evans
What about an analogous pending system for CFJs? Anyone can submit but they only get assigned to a judge after someone has paid the fee. The fee should be low and stable. The judge gets paid the fee upon judgment. Even 2 shinies is probably enough to slow tge pace down without stopping it, and

Re: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer is a humble agoran farmer

2017-05-29 Thread Nicholas Evans
This response makes me think you didn't read or comprehend my response. And your recent behavior makes me think you don't attempt to comprehend the rules before acting. On May 29, 2017 10:35, "CuddleBeam" wrote: > >The rules allow withdrawing ballots and proposals

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly Report

2017-05-28 Thread Nicholas Evans
You should correct the player count while you're at it. On May 28, 2017 7:30 AM, "Publius Scribonius Scholasticus" < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Accepted, I thought I included that. > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > > > > > On

Re: DIS: Find two contradictory CFJs -> Principle of explosion -> Do anything

2017-05-26 Thread Nicholas Evans
More like guidelines, and generally newer overrides older. On May 26, 2017 9:30 PM, "CuddleBeam" wrote: > Would this be a valid way to scam? > > Or are CFJs more like guidelines? >

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Nicholas Evans
I think you misunderstand Agoran CFJs. The reasoning is more important than the ruling. The purpose to judge DISMISS is to indicate that the judgement doesn't answer any gamestate questions. Ideally, and in most such recent cases, the text of the judgement still provides guidance on what to do if

Re: DIS: Streched Too Thin A.K.A. Woah there CuddleBeam, that's a lot of Agencies

2017-05-22 Thread Nicholas Evans
That'd still be preferable because all those sub agencies would have the same 24 hour delay for modification, so it'd slow activitu down some. On May 22, 2017 16:59, "CuddleBeam" wrote: > Agencies are Turing Complete currently (using its creator as output, the >

Re: DIS: The Crown Problem

2017-05-16 Thread Nicholas Evans
What about an office that can grant wins and titles and certain rule changes that has no assumption method? Then you'd have to scam your way in, and we'd all be more familiar with the bestowed powers than with a proposal tailor-made for the scam. Incidentally there's a scam-only ribbon, but it's a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Time to close the loopholes

2017-05-16 Thread Nicholas Evans
On May 16, 2017 23:33, "Alex Smith" wrote: As such, I went for the simpler option (especially as IIRC there was a proposal to simplify the pending price system floating around already, and I didn't want to accidentally reverse it). If you strongly feel that allowing a

Re: DIS: Officer Tech Chat

2017-05-15 Thread Nicholas Evans
I should add: I have labels for all office-related messages. I use filters to catch most of them, and I manually move things that the filters don't catch when I see them. The keywords I use for Registrar are: registrar, register, deregister, 869, registration, deregistration The keywords I use

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal(s) 7848

2017-05-14 Thread Nicholas Evans
Admittedly I missed that. But I think ballots have to explicitly be withdrawn before new ones are valid. On May 14, 2017 01:55, "Quazie" wrote: > Claim of error - my email entitled 'votes' should've superseded my vote on > this proposal I believe. > > On Sun, May 14, 2017

Re: DIS: go for the gig

2017-05-01 Thread Nicholas Evans
I'm really interested in this idea, so I'm willing to pick it up. On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > If anyone wants to go ahead with the next version of the Gig Economy draft, > go for it. I'm not following current economic proposals enough to

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Payday

2017-05-01 Thread Nicholas Evans
For the monthly stipend that applies to players, it's all or nothing. If there's any money in Agora's balance, everyone gets paid; if there isn't any, nobody gets paid. Offices, on the other hand, are calculated individually and can't get paid when there is or would be a non-positive balance.

DIS: Considering our Economic Options

2017-04-29 Thread Nicholas Evans
Agora is about to enter a period of deficit. Now there's quite a few suggestions to change/repair/replace the economy. I wanted to go back over the philosophical underpinnings of the current economy, how successfully it matches those, and how the existing proposals make that mapping better, worse,

Re: DIS: Liquidity proto-proposal

2017-04-29 Thread Nicholas Evans
There is a question about how fair we have to be. I imagine most Agorans are willing to pend proposals for new players if need be, and if the Gig Economy idea takes off, there will be a few low-investment ways to earn money. Too much advantage to hording money makes the system unfair, but too much

Re: DIS: Assets proto-proposal, v2

2017-04-29 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 11:36 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Reenact rule 2166, Assets (Power = 2), with the following text: > > An asset is an entity defined as such by a rule (hereafter its backing > document), and existing solely because its backing

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3476 assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

2017-04-28 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > There’s a fair bit of game convention that allows identifying players from > eir email addresses, if it’s not otherwise ambiguous for some reason. > Certainly, if I stopped signing my messages “-o”, nobody would have

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Payday (Apr 2017)

2017-04-27 Thread Nicholas Evans
for people to buy them) On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Sprocklem S <sprock...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 1:34 AM, Nicholas Evans <nich...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You're registrar (via deputization). When the month rolls around, > announce > > intent to

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Payday (Apr 2017)

2017-04-26 Thread Nicholas Evans
You're registrar (via deputization). When the month rolls around, announce intent to deregister everyone who hasn't posted in the last month. Once you deregister them, that will free up their shinies. On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:55 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus <

Re: DIS: Proto-lazy Sunday

2017-04-22 Thread Nicholas Evans
I like to imagine that, as is, the proposal specifies a random set of deadlines to extend indefinitely every time. On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > This would work well with some fleshing out. > > > On

Re: DIS: Robo-Ref-ideas

2017-04-22 Thread Nicholas Evans
I also wouldn't support punishment. During slow times I've published the registrar's report roughly monthly instead of weekly. It didn't make much difference because few things currently rely on the # of players. If I was punished for that, I'd probably have just vacated the seat. If there's

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: The gig economy

2017-04-22 Thread Nicholas Evans
I like this a lot in theory. Bard would need careful definition to not be abused/impossible to satisfy Tour Guide reminds me that I need to fix the agora wiki... On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > (Some jobs don't need regular Offices, but should

Re: DIS: Proto-Research-Assistant

2017-04-22 Thread Nicholas Evans
This is basically what I intended for Reportor, with different flair. I don't like the requests thing. The point is to create an easy reference point for people to use for research in the future, not to do other people's research for them. Otherwise, I'd generally support this. On Wed, Apr 19,

Re: DIS: Offer to resign as Promotor

2017-02-14 Thread Nicholas Evans
Hope everything works out for you and your friend Aris. These slow periods happen, but the lack of movement on proposals can exacerbate them (especially if big changes are expected to pass). The agency is a clever solution for the time being. On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 10:25 PM, Aris Merchant <

DIS: Re: BUS: Health issues

2017-01-07 Thread Nicholas Evans
Rest up, get well! On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 7:16 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Sorry everyone, but I deregister. > > Alexis >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 登録書

2016-11-15 Thread Nicholas Evans
​天火狐 = "Sky (red) fox" or "Sky red panda", or possibly "Sky firefox".​

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Management

2016-11-06 Thread Nicholas Evans
Is there a relevant CFJ that suggests '7 days' equals 168 hours, instead of 7 calendar days?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Simple Economy

2016-11-04 Thread Nicholas Evans
On 11/04/2016 08:05 PM, ais523 wrote: The largest problem is that you haven't specified an officer to track the switches. Woops, lost it in editing. Meant to be the Secretary. Currencies typically need to have multiple dimensions so that a varying exchange rate can be set up between them.

DIS: The State of Discussion, Mailing Lists, IRC, and things that were actually invented this century.

2016-11-04 Thread Nicholas Evans
There's been some frustration voiced about the three mailing list system, again. I say again because there was a plan to migrate the mailing lists to a unified solution this summer, but it fell by the wayside as, presumably, the mailing list maintainer got busy. But now it's being brought up

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Draft of corrected proposal distribution

2016-11-04 Thread Nicholas Evans
Use a text editor that doesn't do any adjustments to the formatting. If you're on Windows, notepad is fine for the job. If you want something nicer on Windows try notepad++ or gedit. I'm on linux, and usually use gedit or vim. On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Aris Merchant <

DIS: Wiki Status

2016-11-03 Thread Nicholas Evans
The wiki will be on and off this weekend. We apologize for the inconvenience. ~The Management

DIS: Re: Assessor tardiness

2016-10-28 Thread Nicholas Evans
I've also already resolved 7813 nearly a month ago: http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg07758.html On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Luis Ressel wrote: > I intend to deputise for the Assessor to resolve the Agoran decision of > whether to adopt Proposal

DIS: Re: Assessor tardiness

2016-10-28 Thread Nicholas Evans
​A combination of being busy elsewhere and having trouble with my email client led to disinterest. Reports & al ​incoming. On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Luis Ressel wrote: > I intend to deputise for the Assessor to resolve the Agoran decision of > whether to adopt Proposal

Re: DIS: Proto for referee

2016-10-19 Thread Nicholas Evans
You might want to take a look at the discussion for the economic proposal - part of it would include punishments you have to pay off. In general, we have to be careful with punishments though. Making someone a less capable player, or stigmatizing them, is not very likely to encourage them to do

Re: DIS: Watchers: a question about the weekly registrars report

2016-09-20 Thread Nicholas Evans
Fair point. I encourage any current watchers to reply to this thread, and I'll add you to the list. On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > "Watchers confirmed still watching as of May 2013:" Shouldn't we verify > again? That's a bit out of

Re: DIS: CFJs

2016-09-18 Thread Nicholas Evans
need one. In theory it could just be a report, > but have we considered putting it on the wiki? > > -Aris > > > On Sunday, September 18, 2016, Nicholas Evans <nich...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> There is, unfortunately, no current CFJ archive. The best places to >

Re: DIS: CFJs

2016-09-18 Thread Nicholas Evans
There is, unfortunately, no current CFJ archive. The best places to look right now are the older archive, the Full Logical Ruleset, and the general mailing archives. On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 1:13 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Okay, I'm a bit confused about this. I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3461 assigned to Alexis

2016-09-18 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > nichdel's interpretation, that TRUE > and/or FALSE are only valid for a true and false statement, respectively, > lead to the even more absurd result that any attempt to assign an incorrect > judgement fails platonically

DIS: Re: BUS: A Proposal

2016-09-17 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I haven't though through the consequences of this at all. > Proposal: Agencies (AI=3) What's the goal here? We already have an organization system that spans seven rules and isn't well utilized. Why not amend that system

Re: DIS: Wiki Status

2016-09-16 Thread Nicholas Evans
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Nicholas Evans <nich...@gmail.com> wrote: > The wiki will be offline sporadically for the next couple of days while I > tinker with the server. Sorry for the inconvenience, but the existing > materials can at least be seen here: https://git

DIS: Wiki Status

2016-09-16 Thread Nicholas Evans
The wiki will be offline sporadically for the next couple of days while I tinker with the server. Sorry for the inconvenience, but the existing materials can at least be seen here: https://github.com/nichdel/agorawiki

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly Report

2016-09-11 Thread Nicholas Evans
On 11 September 2016 at 10:41, Nicholas Evans <nich...@gmail.com> wrote: > ​I publish the weekly Registrar's report as follows. > ​Ugh, that formatting. The mailing lists currently seem to be rejecting emails I send from my desktop client (debian's branch of thunderbird), so I t

DIS: Re: BUS: Election: Reportor

2016-09-09 Thread Nicholas Evans
On 30 August 2016 at 16:07, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I initiate an election for Reportor. > > I initiate an Agoran Decision to determine the new Reportor. > The valid options are the players, the vote collector is the > ADoP, and the voting method is instant runoff. > > >

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] 2015's first proposals

2015-01-20 Thread Nicholas Evans
On 01/19/2015 04:37 PM, Luis Ressel wrote: 7729* Henri 1.0 The Agoran Newspaper FOR 7730* Henri 1.0 Monthly Deportation PRESENT 7731* Murphy 1.0 Quality over quantity FOR 7732+ Murphy 3.0 Zebra crossing out PRESENT -nichdel

RE: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgment of CFJ 3432

2014-11-12 Thread Nicholas Evans
I'm not sure the fact that the PoA is imaginary is all that relevant. If you add a rule to the PoA then the PoA can only specify imaginary events that occur regarding it, but it still clearly refers to the actual rule. The Dungeon Master is the one setting the property, and there is nothing

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3401 assigned to nichdel

2014-02-23 Thread Nicholas Evans
On 2/23/2014 2:31 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote Nichdel, have you judged this? Apologies if I missed a message. -G. Not yet. I've been reading all discussion on the matter and will want my judgment to cover all angles of argumentation. If expedience is not an issue, I will start drafting tonight and

DIS: Re: BUS: Regarding r2419

2014-02-16 Thread Nicholas Evans
On 2/15/2014 4:52 PM, Brian Blomlie wrote: -First thesis- The contradiction consisting in having escape velocity and a score of 0 If there is a player of Agora who has escape velocity, then there doesn’t exist a player that has escape velocity. Here I’m making the assumption that the rule is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Regarding r2419

2014-02-16 Thread Nicholas Evans
Sorry, the statement isn't past-perfctive but rather present-perfective. My statement still holds as perfectives refer to some event as a whole, not (necessarily) to any current state.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (Mis)Applying My Linguistics Skills

2014-02-14 Thread Nicholas Evans
On 2/12/2014 12:46 PM, omd wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Nich Del Evans nich...@gmail.com wrote: I also agree that they can imitate recursion to an even more limited extent. Well, if a computer program can manage to parse a deeply nested sentence, I expect it could proceed to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (Mis)Applying My Linguistics Skills

2014-02-12 Thread Nicholas Evans
On 2/12/2014 8:24 AM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, omd wrote: I'm somewhat skeptical of the word organism. If it has to be biological, then just say human, there's no guarantee hypothetical space aliens or AIs would be considered organisms anyway. :) [snip] /me wonders

DIS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] Judicial List

2014-02-11 Thread Nicholas Evans
On 2/6/2014 4:28 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: Followup: here's my judicial list (combining people standing/sitting in the old system who have posted since Jan 1 with people so far expressing interest): ais523, G., woggle, omd, Tiger, Shredder, Murphy. (Sprocklem, Nichdel, Yally would be good

Re: DIS: An Updated Agoran Library

2014-02-03 Thread Nicholas Evans
On 2/3/2014 1:03 AM, Alex Smith wrote: On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 00:58 -0600, Nicholas Evans wrote: I am now maintaining a new library of Agoran Theses: http://hearthgate.net/nomic/agoran_library/ These within the library are categorized as either histories or theory papers, for now. If I have

DIS: An Updated Agoran Library

2014-02-02 Thread Nicholas Evans
I am now maintaining a new library of Agoran Theses: http://hearthgate.net/nomic/agoran_library/ These within the library are categorized as either histories or theory papers, for now. If I have missed any or have made mistakes, please tell me. In the future, I hope to collect other

Re: DIS: Collecting Agoran Theses

2014-01-22 Thread Nicholas Evans
On 1/22/2014 2:57 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Sat, 18 Jan 2014, Nicholas Evans wrote: I've been reading Blob's Agoran Library [1] and was wondering if anyone has kept record of theses since 1999 (where Blob's records end). If not, I will try to collect them myself. [1] ftp

DIS: Collecting Agoran Theses

2014-01-18 Thread Nicholas Evans
I've been reading Blob's Agoran Library [1] and was wondering if anyone has kept record of theses since 1999 (where Blob's records end). If not, I will try to collect them myself. [1] ftp://ftp.cse.unsw.edu.au/pub/users/malcolmr/nomic/articles/agora-theses/library.html

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7618-7620

2014-01-17 Thread Nicholas Evans
I vote as follows: On 1/17/2014 1:41 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: Proposal 7618 by omd (AI=3, Ordinary) No point slowing down proposals in lieu of proposal fees Endorse woggle. Proposal 7619 by woggle (AI=3, Ordinary) Rules can't violate rules! Endorse G. Proposal 7620 by G. (AI=3, Ordinary) Fire

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Results for 7615-7617

2014-01-16 Thread Nicholas Evans
On 1/16/2014 12:27 AM, Nich Del Evans wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Wed, 15 Jan 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 15 Jan 2014, omd wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Wow. Significant rules changes and a quite high voter