I wouldn't vote for JK either - I don't agree with him on most issues
and don't agree with the way he has handled himself on several of
these. I really never thought I'd see the day I would be defending
him. But whether you or I would vote for completely misses the
point.
If somebody
i have know tommy for many years, although i may not agree with him all
the time, i would put asbury in his hands over keady any day...keady is
a loose cannon...pretty much a nutjob!!! i did not vote for him nor
would i ever...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I agree with you that Mohammed's comments (assuming that is what he
actually said, in context) are also both mean spiritied and ove the
top. That doesn't make them right, or make you right for doing the
same thing to JK.
I believe that you can argue the merits of the Mission - which I
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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Been hoping to hear from you.
What was not criminal about the shooting?
You must cover a lot of wall space with that broad brush you use. Come
on pallie, of course it is a crime but to ignore that the root causes
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It was bad. Racial overtones, threats. Keady fell right it line. He
met with them on Saturday. They want the city to spend $100,000 on
the Westside Community Center a building the city doesn't even own.
It was scriped
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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Last nights meeting was a disgrace and a setup. I'll bet my house
that Keady was behind it.
From Asbury Radio:
Mohammed told Asbury Radio, It's just clear that the majority of
the council do not truly care
What's next? Is he also responsible for kidnapping the Lindburg baby
and pehaps he was the real killer in the OJ case?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
Last nights meeting was a
Tom, how can you write this stuff? What has gotten in the way of your
using your brain, your common sense, and your mind when you post here?
Do you look at this board as a little personal toy to see what you can
get away with?
I am referring to..
(from Dan). From what you write about the
Great observation. JK is always sandbagging the rest of the council
by making motions without discussing it with them first. You can
see it on thier faces. He is always trying to put them on the spot
instead of working with them.
He claims he isn't a politician. Right.
He is into
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If somebody deserves to get beaten up over something it should be
something he actually did or said. Tommy is simply distorting the
truth (lying may be a more appropriate description). In the same
article Terry
While I wasn't able to attend last nights council meeting, i've read
about it the Asbury Radio website.
It sounds like the west side community is very much in support of Jim
Keady, and it also sounds like a growing divide between the east and
west exists.
Couldn't this be a prime moment in time to
Maybe someone here will accuse JK of being the triggerman.
Police probe shooting in Asbury Park
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/14/06
ASBURY PARK Police are investigating a shooting at about 11:30 a.m.
today in the 1500 block of Bangs Avenue in Asbury Park, according to
city officials
My apologies if a similar post to this appears twice, something
happened while making my original post.
Well it seems as if we have a situation here. I won't opine as to
whether WS residents are justified in the ire they expressed last
night. It is a fact. We have to deal with it.
Why did
Maybe DAN that will happen?
- Original Message From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:56:26 AMSubject: [AsburyPark] Another Shooting
Maybe someone here will accuse JK of being the triggerman.Police probe shooting in Asbury
In addition to offering
our teenagers more recreation certers, let's also divert some funds to
job training and or computer labs so they can have the necessary skills
to enter the job market and make a decent wage. It is all about
options, jobs over drugs and gangs.
dfsavgny wrote on
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe someone here will accuse JK of being the triggerman.
Police probe shooting in Asbury Park
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/14/06
ASBURY PARK Police are investigating a shooting at about 11:30 a.m.
today in
Those things are avaiable. I guess we should have home training just
to make it easier. Might as well throw in meals and a vacation too.
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Tom charges JK with fanning the flames of racial division. I have never
heard JK preach anything except peace. It is those who attacked JK that
may have inadvertedly stoked those very same flames.
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UPDATE: Asbury police investigate apparent suicide
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/14/06
ASBURY PARK Police are investigating an apparent suicide this morning
in the 1500 block of Bangs Avenue, Deputy Chief Mark Kinmon said.
No
Rather than spending so much time arguing over the ridiculous,
perhaps we should spend some energy focused on actual solutions to
the very real issues we are facing.
It seems the present day Abbott plan is to improve the schools with
the hope that kids who don't think they have much
Good advice...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
Maybe someone here will accuse JK of being the triggerman.
Police probe shooting in Asbury Park
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Last nights show was all set up at the WSCC Sunday night and I was told
Keady was there.
Tom charges JK with fanning the flames of racial division. I have
never
heard JK preach anything except peace. It is those who
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Those things are avaiable. I guess we should have home training just
to make it easier. Might as well throw in meals and a vacation too.
What's your solution? Ignore the problem? Insist that there is no
problem? No one knows
There is some merit in
your sarcasm. That actually sounds like a better alternative than gang
violence.
Fred wrote on 11/14/2006, 1:34 PM:
Those things are avaiable.
I guess we should have home training just
to make it easier. Might as well throw in meals and a vacation too.
You are right. It will probabaly be cheaper. The $84 million dollar
school budget isn't working.
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I'm going to reserve decision on something JK did last night until I
hear from those on this board that support him.
Someone please tell my why...
Last night with all the people there to complain about the east/west
racial divide, with all the high tension about waht is or is not
being done
I understand there was a prior meeting held at Red Fusion,too.
Spontaneous eruption of emotion by the West Side? Shenanigans. Just
a planned event.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
Last nights
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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I son't think you meant to Jack, but your post below actually
agrees
with me that it was just a trick Keady was pulling.
Anyone else have an answer here?
Maybe JK himself would like to weigh in.
I wasn't
With all due respect, I disagree. I saying that he was trying to show a greater
commitment,
no a trick Please don't mince my words.
Thank you.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I son't think you meant to Jack, but your post below actually agrees
with
I guess it's a matter of taste. I just looks too Disney or Universal Studios to
me.
I like the funky old Coney Island ambiance, but that's just me.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hinge - didnt get to read it yet, cause im heading out the door. took
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote:
How can the rest of the council respect him and trust him if he
constanly pulls this stuff. Ed Johnson ripped Mohamen, Nunn and Keady
last night for that stunt.
Stand Up For Asbury has filed an appeal against the Market Street
Mission, an evangelical organization that has purchased a property
on Memorial Drive between Sewall and Asbury Avenue. The site is the
geographical heart of Asbury Park and the gateway to our struggling
Southwest neighborhood.
So when does the retraction of ALL 3 newspapers, go into effect?
Somebody owes Jim Keady an apology and should EAT a FULL dinner plate
of CROW!
It's a case of: Open Mouth, Insert Foot! I'd like to know when the
UEZ board became the writer of letters asking for an elected
officials'
The problem is Jack if making that motion (that he knows can not be
passed) is somehow showing support for the West Side, isn't he
putting his fellow councilmembers, who have to do the responsible
thing and vote it down, in the postion of being mistaken for people
who have no commitment to the
These facts are commonly known by The American Legion and The VFW.
About 4 years ago, Target Stores would not let The Legion or the VFW
ask for donations, during the Poppy Program from May 1st through May
31st, ending the day after Memorial Day. They claimed to give
corporate donations. Okay!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think they'll down in A.C.
The problem is Jack if making that motion (that he knows can not be
passed) is somehow showing support for the West Side, isn't he
putting his fellow councilmembers, who have to do
It's been five days since you contacted the Congressman. Any
response?
I want to be clear on something Mario. If you are convinced he said
that thing about AP, I have no intentions of gloating to you, doing
snoopy dances (I thought that was pretty funny by the way) or
anything like that
Well, you may be right.
Only question I have then is why is voting it down the responsible thing?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is Jack if making that motion (that he knows can not be
passed) is somehow showing support for the West Side,
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because something like that should be dicussed and researched. It's s
knee-jerk re-action. Jim Keady is like a goalie in soccer he stands
there alone with all the answers. He will never change. He wants to
be the Lone Ranger.
For a government to just gift $100K to a private company, you would
certainly want the matter addressed as to what they are going to to
with it, is it earmarked for particular purposes, is there budgets,
real contractors with insurance, etc. Then you would want a hearing
on the matter with
$600.00? Addressing community needs? What? What a caring council!
Go slow? These are the SAME issues that booted GW Bush's majority, OUT!
This council is clearly out of step, with the people! You can't have
a vibrant East Side while the West Side is floundering! Bruno stormed
off in his
Well, you may have a point there.
But trying to save Asbury isn't a crime, and he seems to be a pretty humble guy
in my
opinion. I sincerely doubt his is look for personal gains by wanting all the
credit.
Hey, are we ever going to discuss anything else here besides Jim Keady. This is
getting
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He's climbing that stairway to heaven to see his Daddy.
Well, you may have a point there.
But trying to save Asbury isn't a crime, and he seems to be a
pretty humble guy in my
opinion. I sincerely doubt his is look for
No. Like Hillary didn't live in NY ;-)
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do.
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And just out of curiosity, why would you call the group you mentioned a thorn?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hey, your the thorn in long branch's side, why dont ya stay
there...we have plenty of asbury thorns: maureen, dan, hinge, mario,
skip to name a
I believe it is Ron Gasorowski.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What Law Firm is being paid to handle the appeal that you are raising
money for?
K Brown
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It used to be called "riding roughshod over the truth."
The newer fun term is "truthiness" thanks to Stephen Colbert.
Whatever you call it, Justified Right plays an "incessant shell game ...
with fiction and reality."
The Keady issue, as reported by Justified Truthiness is just the
I for one don't really know very much about the people that I share this space
with.
So why don't you all tell us a little bit about who you are.
Share whatever you feel comfortable with.
You can leave out details like your name or job if you want, just give us a
general idea.
I'll start.
I used
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hey, your the thorn in long branch's side, why dont ya stay
there...we have plenty of asbury thorns: maureen, dan, hinge, mario,
skip to name a few, we dont need the long branch thorns over
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do.
I live here.
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I do.
I live here.
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I am always amazed by the balls (I forget the Italian spelling
for the word) with which Tommy responds to any criticism of what he
writes.
But Will Ferrell ("Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky
Bobby" and "Stranger than Fiction") has a better term: "Unearned
Confidence."
Ferrell is
The inquiry didn't come from me. It came from you.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am always amazed by the balls (I forget the Italian spelling
for the word)
with which Tommy responds to any criticism of what he writes.
But Will Ferrell (Talladega Nights:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i just added you to the list...how did i forget
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jim asburyjim@ wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover rolemover@ wrote:
hey, your the thorn in long branch's
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How can the rest of the council respect him and trust him if he
constanly pulls this stuff. Ed Johnson ripped Mohamen, Nunn and
Keady
last night for that stunt. Now Ed is a well respected man
throughout
town do you doubt
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
.you ask about jimmy bruno? jimmy bruno's dad was the last
4 letter sportsman at aphs in the early 30's, he was also football
coach at aphs for many years, and ran the beachfront in asbury
through the 60's and 70's
And
Yeah, great example of grammar. You wrote this...hey, your the thorn in long
branch's
side. It's you're, not your.
And for the record, you'll probably find plenty of my mistakes as well, but
it's the thought
that counts, not the vehicle.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL
well if I were to accept Tommy's private non participating public
monies policy, than how would you quantify and even qualify the
public private application of eminent domain in redevelopment or mass
revitilazation.
As for Government money going into the coffers of private
organizations - you
I had some discussions today with three National Public Interest Law
Firms and it appears they are planning on coming in to the Market
Street appeal. Unfortunately this will create a great expense for the
asbury tax payers. I hope the Stand Up Asbury fund will be able to
reinburse Asbury Tax
ROLLMOLE - take a chill pill. I will go where ever, when ever in this
great country I so choose to. Try and stop me!
Liberty is alive and pity the soul who would act against it!
KB
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
keep your wrong branch i mean long
Gez!
Kevin, for the last time, ITS THE PROCEDURE!!! CAN'T BE DONE ON A
MOTION
No one is saying the WSCC or any other private company can't have
the money. NOT ON A MOTION
Understand?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
well if I were
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I had some discussions today with three National Public Interest
Law
Firms and it appears they are planning on coming in to the Market
Street appeal. Unfortunately this will create a great expense for
the
asbury
Yea, well, ask those lawyers if their kids risk walking past warrant
filled pedophiles on the way to school.
The mission does not belong there.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I had some discussions today with three National Public Interest
Law
On 11/15/2006 at 12:17:04 A.M. Eastern
Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gez!
Clever to change the
spelling. Your rolemover pseudonym says, "jeez."
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On 11/15/2006 at 12:01:35 A.M. Eastern
Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ROLLMOLE - take a chill pill.
I
Word around is that rolemover and justified Bull Shitake are the same
person. Consider the enemies list: they have all criticized Tommy.
They're thorns to Tommy, butcredits
I reside in Long Branch, I work in Long Branch Asbury.
I am also running for the 11 th District Senate seat in 2007.
When I win the senate seat, I plan on having the district office in
Asbury Park.
I could just as easily have said I will have the district office in
Long Branch, because
Geeze Tommy...
A Motion Is a moving question!
Did you sleep in Parlimentary Proceedure in college?
Oh, Iam sorry... Law School?
I so move it's a question, that requires a second, to be discussed.
The only protocol Keady would have needed was to be given the floor
by the chair of the
On 11/13/2006 at 6:57:13 P.M. Eastern
Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom, I'm not a huge fan of Mr. Keady but based
on your own post below you are clearly and apparently intentionally taking
his statement and twisting it to suit your own agenda of attacking him.
If
How can Justified
Truthiness justify his insinuation that these two sentences mean the same
thing?
"The roots of the problem are
not criminal, they're social."
v.
"Theshooting wasn't
criminal."
Absolutely not the same thing.
Chaucer's Pardoner said, "Radix malorum est
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