[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy is Wrong

2006-11-14 Thread asburycouple
I wouldn't vote for JK either - I don't agree with him on most issues and don't agree with the way he has handled himself on several of these. I really never thought I'd see the day I would be defending him. But whether you or I would vote for completely misses the point. If somebody

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy is Wrong

2006-11-14 Thread rolemover
i have know tommy for many years, although i may not agree with him all the time, i would put asbury in his hands over keady any day...keady is a loose cannon...pretty much a nutjob!!! i did not vote for him nor would i ever... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy is Wrong

2006-11-14 Thread asburycouple
I agree with you that Mohammed's comments (assuming that is what he actually said, in context) are also both mean spiritied and ove the top. That doesn't make them right, or make you right for doing the same thing to JK. I believe that you can argue the merits of the Mission - which I

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy is Wrong

2006-11-14 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been hoping to hear from you. What was not criminal about the shooting? You must cover a lot of wall space with that broad brush you use. Come on pallie, of course it is a crime but to ignore that the root causes

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy is Wrong

2006-11-14 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was bad. Racial overtones, threats. Keady fell right it line. He met with them on Saturday. They want the city to spend $100,000 on the Westside Community Center a building the city doesn't even own. It was scriped

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy is Wrong

2006-11-14 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last nights meeting was a disgrace and a setup. I'll bet my house that Keady was behind it. From Asbury Radio: Mohammed told Asbury Radio, It's just clear that the majority of the council do not truly care

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy is Wrong

2006-11-14 Thread asburycouple
What's next? Is he also responsible for kidnapping the Lindburg baby and pehaps he was the real killer in the OJ case? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Last nights meeting was a

[AsburyPark] beyond frustration

2006-11-14 Thread traderdube
Tom, how can you write this stuff? What has gotten in the way of your using your brain, your common sense, and your mind when you post here? Do you look at this board as a little personal toy to see what you can get away with? I am referring to.. (from Dan). From what you write about the

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy is Wrong

2006-11-14 Thread justifiedright
Great observation. JK is always sandbagging the rest of the council by making motions without discussing it with them first. You can see it on thier faces. He is always trying to put them on the spot instead of working with them. He claims he isn't a politician. Right. He is into

[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy is Wrong

2006-11-14 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If somebody deserves to get beaten up over something it should be something he actually did or said. Tommy is simply distorting the truth (lying may be a more appropriate description). In the same article Terry

[AsburyPark] An observation...

2006-11-14 Thread Hinge
While I wasn't able to attend last nights council meeting, i've read about it the Asbury Radio website. It sounds like the west side community is very much in support of Jim Keady, and it also sounds like a growing divide between the east and west exists. Couldn't this be a prime moment in time to

[AsburyPark] Another Shooting

2006-11-14 Thread dfsavgny
Maybe someone here will accuse JK of being the triggerman. Police probe shooting in Asbury Park Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/14/06 ASBURY PARK — Police are investigating a shooting at about 11:30 a.m. today in the 1500 block of Bangs Avenue in Asbury Park, according to city officials

[AsburyPark] Powder Keg

2006-11-14 Thread dfsavgny
My apologies if a similar post to this appears twice, something happened while making my original post. Well it seems as if we have a situation here. I won't opine as to whether WS residents are justified in the ire they expressed last night. It is a fact. We have to deal with it. Why did

Re: [AsburyPark] Another Shooting

2006-11-14 Thread Allan Peterson
Maybe DAN that will happen? - Original Message From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:56:26 AMSubject: [AsburyPark] Another Shooting Maybe someone here will accuse JK of being the triggerman.Police probe shooting in Asbury

Re: [AsburyPark] Powder Keg

2006-11-14 Thread Fred Remer
In addition to offering our teenagers more recreation certers, let's also divert some funds to job training and or computer labs so they can have the necessary skills to enter the job market and make a decent wage. It is all about options, jobs over drugs and gangs. dfsavgny wrote on

[AsburyPark] Re: Another Shooting

2006-11-14 Thread Kevin Brown
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe someone here will accuse JK of being the triggerman. Police probe shooting in Asbury Park Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/14/06 ASBURY PARK — Police are investigating a shooting at about 11:30 a.m. today in

[AsburyPark] Re: Powder Keg

2006-11-14 Thread Fred
Those things are avaiable. I guess we should have home training just to make it easier. Might as well throw in meals and a vacation too. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email

[AsburyPark] Fanning the Flames

2006-11-14 Thread dfsavgny
Tom charges JK with fanning the flames of racial division. I have never heard JK preach anything except peace. It is those who attacked JK that may have inadvertedly stoked those very same flames. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Shooting

2006-11-14 Thread Fred
Text Size:|| E-mail Print Subscribe E-mail Alerts UPDATE: Asbury police investigate apparent suicide Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/14/06 ASBURY PARK — Police are investigating an apparent suicide this morning in the 1500 block of Bangs Avenue, Deputy Chief Mark Kinmon said. No

[AsburyPark] How about an exchange of ideas vs. an argument.

2006-11-14 Thread asburycouple
Rather than spending so much time arguing over the ridiculous, perhaps we should spend some energy focused on actual solutions to the very real issues we are facing. It seems the present day Abbott plan is to improve the schools with the hope that kids who don't think they have much

[AsburyPark] Re: Another Shooting

2006-11-14 Thread Hinge
Good advice... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Maybe someone here will accuse JK of being the triggerman. Police probe shooting in Asbury Park Posted by the Asbury Park Press on

[AsburyPark] Re: Fanning the Flames

2006-11-14 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last nights show was all set up at the WSCC Sunday night and I was told Keady was there. Tom charges JK with fanning the flames of racial division. I have never heard JK preach anything except peace. It is those who

[AsburyPark] Re: Powder Keg

2006-11-14 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those things are avaiable. I guess we should have home training just to make it easier. Might as well throw in meals and a vacation too. What's your solution? Ignore the problem? Insist that there is no problem? No one knows

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Powder Keg

2006-11-14 Thread Fred Remer
There is some merit in your sarcasm. That actually sounds like a better alternative than gang violence. Fred wrote on 11/14/2006, 1:34 PM: Those things are avaiable. I guess we should have home training just to make it easier. Might as well throw in meals and a vacation too.

[AsburyPark] Re: Powder Keg

2006-11-14 Thread Fred
You are right. It will probabaly be cheaper. The $84 million dollar school budget isn't working. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings

[AsburyPark] Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread justifiedright
I'm going to reserve decision on something JK did last night until I hear from those on this board that support him. Someone please tell my why... Last night with all the people there to complain about the east/west racial divide, with all the high tension about waht is or is not being done

[AsburyPark] Re: Fanning the Flames

2006-11-14 Thread justifiedright
I understand there was a prior meeting held at Red Fusion,too. Spontaneous eruption of emotion by the West Side? Shenanigans. Just a planned event. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Last nights

[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I son't think you meant to Jack, but your post below actually agrees with me that it was just a trick Keady was pulling. Anyone else have an answer here? Maybe JK himself would like to weigh in. I wasn't

[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread Hinge
With all due respect, I disagree. I saying that he was trying to show a greater commitment, no a trick Please don't mince my words. Thank you. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I son't think you meant to Jack, but your post below actually agrees with

[AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment gone mad in Coney Island

2006-11-14 Thread Hinge
I guess it's a matter of taste. I just looks too Disney or Universal Studios to me. I like the funky old Coney Island ambiance, but that's just me. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hinge - didnt get to read it yet, cause im heading out the door. took

[AsburyPark] Re: Fanning the Flames

2006-11-14 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: How can the rest of the council respect him and trust him if he constanly pulls this stuff. Ed Johnson ripped Mohamen, Nunn and Keady last night for that stunt.

[AsburyPark] Stop the Market Street Mission!

2006-11-14 Thread paulvail1964
Stand Up For Asbury has filed an appeal against the Market Street Mission, an evangelical organization that has purchased a property on Memorial Drive between Sewall and Asbury Avenue. The site is the geographical heart of Asbury Park and the gateway to our struggling Southwest neighborhood.

[AsburyPark] Re: APP Got it Right on Keady

2006-11-14 Thread 2fine4u
So when does the retraction of ALL 3 newspapers, go into effect? Somebody owes Jim Keady an apology and should EAT a FULL dinner plate of CROW! It's a case of: Open Mouth, Insert Foot! I'd like to know when the UEZ board became the writer of letters asking for an elected officials'

[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread justifiedright
The problem is Jack if making that motion (that he knows can not be passed) is somehow showing support for the West Side, isn't he putting his fellow councilmembers, who have to do the responsible thing and vote it down, in the postion of being mistaken for people who have no commitment to the

[AsburyPark] Re: Target Stores

2006-11-14 Thread 2fine4u
These facts are commonly known by The American Legion and The VFW. About 4 years ago, Target Stores would not let The Legion or the VFW ask for donations, during the Poppy Program from May 1st through May 31st, ending the day after Memorial Day. They claimed to give corporate donations. Okay!

[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think they'll down in A.C. The problem is Jack if making that motion (that he knows can not be passed) is somehow showing support for the West Side, isn't he putting his fellow councilmembers, who have to do

[AsburyPark] Pallone and Mario

2006-11-14 Thread justifiedright
It's been five days since you contacted the Congressman. Any response? I want to be clear on something Mario. If you are convinced he said that thing about AP, I have no intentions of gloating to you, doing snoopy dances (I thought that was pretty funny by the way) or anything like that

[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread Hinge
Well, you may be right. Only question I have then is why is voting it down the responsible thing? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is Jack if making that motion (that he knows can not be passed) is somehow showing support for the West Side,

[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because something like that should be dicussed and researched. It's s knee-jerk re-action. Jim Keady is like a goalie in soccer he stands there alone with all the answers. He will never change. He wants to be the Lone Ranger.

[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread justifiedright
For a government to just gift $100K to a private company, you would certainly want the matter addressed as to what they are going to to with it, is it earmarked for particular purposes, is there budgets, real contractors with insurance, etc. Then you would want a hearing on the matter with

[AsburyPark] Re: Tonight's Council Meeting

2006-11-14 Thread 2fine4u
$600.00? Addressing community needs? What? What a caring council! Go slow? These are the SAME issues that booted GW Bush's majority, OUT! This council is clearly out of step, with the people! You can't have a vibrant East Side while the West Side is floundering! Bruno stormed off in his

[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread Hinge
Well, you may have a point there. But trying to save Asbury isn't a crime, and he seems to be a pretty humble guy in my opinion. I sincerely doubt his is look for personal gains by wanting all the credit. Hey, are we ever going to discuss anything else here besides Jim Keady. This is getting

[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's climbing that stairway to heaven to see his Daddy. Well, you may have a point there. But trying to save Asbury isn't a crime, and he seems to be a pretty humble guy in my opinion. I sincerely doubt his is look for

[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.

2006-11-14 Thread justifiedright
No. Like Hillary didn't live in NY ;-) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To

[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread Hinge
And just out of curiosity, why would you call the group you mentioned a thorn? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey, your the thorn in long branch's side, why dont ya stay there...we have plenty of asbury thorns: maureen, dan, hinge, mario, skip to name a

[AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Market Street Mission!

2006-11-14 Thread justifiedright
I believe it is Ron Gasorowski. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Law Firm is being paid to handle the appeal that you are raising money for? K Brown Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Justified Truthiness

2006-11-14 Thread MarioAPNJ
It used to be called "riding roughshod over the truth." The newer fun term is "truthiness" thanks to Stephen Colbert. Whatever you call it, Justified Right plays an "incessant shell game ... with fiction and reality." The Keady issue, as reported by Justified Truthiness is just the

[AsburyPark] Tell us a little bit about yourselves, if you dare...

2006-11-14 Thread Hinge
I for one don't really know very much about the people that I share this space with. So why don't you all tell us a little bit about who you are. Share whatever you feel comfortable with. You can leave out details like your name or job if you want, just give us a general idea. I'll start. I used

[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread Jim
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey, your the thorn in long branch's side, why dont ya stay there...we have plenty of asbury thorns: maureen, dan, hinge, mario, skip to name a few, we dont need the long branch thorns over

[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.

2006-11-14 Thread Jim
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do. I live here. ~Flagman~ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings

[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.

2006-11-14 Thread Jim
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do. I live here. ~Flagman~ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings

[AsburyPark] Unearned Confidence: Justified Ricky Booby

2006-11-14 Thread MarioAPNJ
I am always amazed by the balls (I forget the Italian spelling for the word) with which Tommy responds to any criticism of what he writes. But Will Ferrell ("Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby" and "Stranger than Fiction") has a better term: "Unearned Confidence." Ferrell is

[AsburyPark] Re: Unearned Confidence: Justified Ricky Booby

2006-11-14 Thread justifiedright
The inquiry didn't come from me. It came from you. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am always amazed by the balls (I forget the Italian spelling for the word) with which Tommy responds to any criticism of what he writes. But Will Ferrell (Talladega Nights:

[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread Jim
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just added you to the list...how did i forget --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jim asburyjim@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover rolemover@ wrote: hey, your the thorn in long branch's

[AsburyPark] Re: Fanning the Flames

2006-11-14 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can the rest of the council respect him and trust him if he constanly pulls this stuff. Ed Johnson ripped Mohamen, Nunn and Keady last night for that stunt. Now Ed is a well respected man throughout town do you doubt

[AsburyPark] Re: Tonight's Council Meeting

2006-11-14 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .you ask about jimmy bruno? jimmy bruno's dad was the last 4 letter sportsman at aphs in the early 30's, he was also football coach at aphs for many years, and ran the beachfront in asbury through the 60's and 70's And

[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread Hinge
Yeah, great example of grammar. You wrote this...hey, your the thorn in long branch's side. It's you're, not your. And for the record, you'll probably find plenty of my mistakes as well, but it's the thought that counts, not the vehicle. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL

[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread Kevin Brown
well if I were to accept Tommy's private non participating public monies policy, than how would you quantify and even qualify the public private application of eminent domain in redevelopment or mass revitilazation. As for Government money going into the coffers of private organizations - you

[AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Market Street Mission!

2006-11-14 Thread Kevin Brown
I had some discussions today with three National Public Interest Law Firms and it appears they are planning on coming in to the Market Street appeal. Unfortunately this will create a great expense for the asbury tax payers. I hope the Stand Up Asbury fund will be able to reinburse Asbury Tax

[AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Market Street Mission!

2006-11-14 Thread Kevin Brown
ROLLMOLE - take a chill pill. I will go where ever, when ever in this great country I so choose to. Try and stop me! Liberty is alive and pity the soul who would act against it! KB --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: keep your wrong branch i mean long

[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread justifiedright
Gez! Kevin, for the last time, ITS THE PROCEDURE!!! CAN'T BE DONE ON A MOTION No one is saying the WSCC or any other private company can't have the money. NOT ON A MOTION Understand? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well if I were

[AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Market Street Mission!

2006-11-14 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had some discussions today with three National Public Interest Law Firms and it appears they are planning on coming in to the Market Street appeal. Unfortunately this will create a great expense for the asbury

[AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Market Street Mission!

2006-11-14 Thread justifiedright
Yea, well, ask those lawyers if their kids risk walking past warrant filled pedophiles on the way to school. The mission does not belong there. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had some discussions today with three National Public Interest Law

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...

2006-11-14 Thread MarioAPNJ
On 11/15/2006 at 12:17:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gez! Clever to change the spelling. Your rolemover pseudonym says, "jeez." __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park nj real

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Market Street Mission!

2006-11-14 Thread MarioAPNJ
On 11/15/2006 at 12:01:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ROLLMOLE - take a chill pill. I Word around is that rolemover and justified Bull Shitake are the same person. Consider the enemies list: they have all criticized Tommy. They're thorns to Tommy, butcredits

[AsburyPark] Kevin Brown - Where I live, work, and die - The 11 th district.

2006-11-14 Thread Kevin Brown
I reside in Long Branch, I work in Long Branch Asbury. I am also running for the 11 th District Senate seat in 2007. When I win the senate seat, I plan on having the district office in Asbury Park. I could just as easily have said I will have the district office in Long Branch, because

[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why... Motion = to move a question Basic!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Kevin Brown
Geeze Tommy... A Motion Is a moving question! Did you sleep in Parlimentary Proceedure in college? Oh, Iam sorry... Law School? I so move it's a question, that requires a second, to be discussed. The only protocol Keady would have needed was to be given the floor by the chair of the

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Proof or Retraction Mr. DeSeno

2006-11-14 Thread MarioAPNJ
On 11/13/2006 at 6:57:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, I'm not a huge fan of Mr. Keady but based on your own post below you are clearly and apparently intentionally taking his statement and twisting it to suit your own agenda of attacking him. If

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Proof or Retraction Mr. DeSeno

2006-11-14 Thread MarioAPNJ
How can Justified Truthiness justify his insinuation that these two sentences mean the same thing? "The roots of the problem are not criminal, they're social." v. "Theshooting wasn't criminal." Absolutely not the same thing. Chaucer's Pardoner said, "Radix malorum est