--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Despite the improvements to the BW that MM/partners or whoever has
made. I am still deeply troubled. I came to this conclusion almost 4
years ago and have tried to dissuade myself. I can't escape it
however. Things will not
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Madison Marquette is working hard to bring us a nicer boardwalk. I
stand behind their
recent efforts, and I'm not going to rush to judge things.
==
All thats been done is yet more paint jobs and 'temporary'
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Werner,
Honestly, how can you expect the 1000 condos to be occupied by now,
even if they were
all built, considering the way the real estate market is these days?
They missed the 'boat'. However NOT having them
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nice example Werner. That is how a lot of people think when it
comes to AP... Or anything in general for that matter. They just
want something done.. anything. They don't care if it's right or
wrong, just get it done.
I'm inclined, no, convinced of what you state and you state it
clearly! Coming from you, who I consider reliable AND honest, I take
you at your word! Thanks for simplifying, what I already thought!
I consider what you state, to be the truth and nothing else! You're
like E.F. Hutton!
--- In
Jack,
So glad to hear that you have connected with someone. I edited my
reply just to say this. Yesterday I celebrated my anniversary, by
going on an early Christmas shopping jaunt and lunch in Eatontown. We
came through Sunset Ave. to Main St. At the light was the dog and
pony show, the PD on
Werner, I share your dissapointment with what has not been
accomplished over the past five years. But we are where we are and
can't judge what's being done now by MM through the lens of where we
should have been had the past five years been different. That is
both unrealistic and unfair. MM
Being able to get Paramoiunt up and Running was great. It foes bring people
in. People
spend money IF u get them to stay overnight OR lure them to other businesses in
the city.
Do they stop at DD or Franks or MCd or come downtown? ASK the business owners -
do
they want NOTHING on the
The question remains how is the budget shortfall going to be fixed -
By hitting the current residential property owners hard ?
No, they will claim hardship and the pain it will cause to city property
owners. They state will
again print money and hand it over - run the city, run the
Anyone agree that having portable toilets on the boardwalk is not in
the best interests of the City? Or am I alone on that one?
Werner
agreed,
Actually, it looks like sh*t.
Yahoo! Groups Links
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As hard as it is to feel this way, I don't think MM can be saddled
with the sins of the past and be forced to play catchup, either by
working 5 times faster or by somehow being forced to deal with the
shortfall in taxables caused by Partners lack of progress. My
opinion is that you have to
All,
I am not a City resident, I have been accused and am guilty.
That being said, I have a question. The recent meeting which the
City held to discuss the shortcomings of the Partners, what was
that all about.. does anyone know? APP reported that the meeting
would be held, the City's own
I would love to understand why the council has been so easy on
Partners for so long. That's a question that is often asked on this
board but never answered in any forum.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
All,
I am not a City resident, I have been
Thank you, I do agree with what you observe, however even MM has been
dragging their feet. Perhaps due to problems with the Partners, I
don't know.
What I do know is that I attended the planning board applications for
the 5th Ave Pav. This project is a 'no-brainer' The Plan calls for the
Pavilion
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
And no public
restrooms.showers...dumb dumb.
==
Every Pavilion should have a requirement to provide public rest rooms.
Or perhaps every other Pavilion
Got my vote on that Werner!
Anyone agree that having portable toilets on the boardwalk is not in
the best interests of the City? Or am I alone on that one?
Werner
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* Your
Could that meeting be the first step to use
emminent domain AGAINST the Partners and to allow MM to take it all
over by themselves?
Just a thought - and a question for all of you to ponder.
Glenn
I said this a couple years ago. I called it reverse eminent domain.
At least take phase
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I would love to understand why the council has been so easy on
Partners for so long. That's a question that is often asked on this
board but never answered in any forum.
Amazing.
Like my kids. I'll do it later.
I
I think we all agree that Asbury Partners sucks.
So why isn't there a group like SUFA to get them out?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone agree that having portable toilets on the boardwalk is not in
the best interests of the City? Or am I alone
What about how difficult it is to get a few lights repaired in a troubled park?
I'm wondering
how many emails and phone calls it's gonna take. David Stout told me it took 5
months to
get a street light fixed near Trinity Church. Ridiculous.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Partners have used emminent domain at their will to claim many
properties whith wich they do NOTHING with (unless, of course MM
presses them to do so.) Could that meeting be the first step to use
emminent domain
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about how difficult it is to get a few lights repaired in a
troubled park?
Ladder, screw driver, light bulbs, Someone to hold the ladder,
I;m afraid of heights usually, so I can hold the ladder.
Hinge for mayor.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I would love to understand why the council has been so easy on
Partners for so long. That's a question that is often asked on this
board but never answered in any forum.
I for one never cited corruption for this
I'd love to fix them ourselves. I have no fear of heights.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote:
What about how difficult it is to get a few lights repaired in a
troubled park?
Ladder, screw
I'd love to fix them ourselves. I have no fear of heights.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote:
What about how difficult it is to get a few lights repaired in a
troubled park?
Ladder, screw
Thanks to those of you who responded to my post yesterday. I really appreciate
your kind
words and support. I'll keep you posted as I move forward. Now, I'm trying to
think of the
best way to help implement the Change for Asbury Program I described
yesterday. I've
never done anything like
Thanks to those of you who responded to my post yesterday. I really appreciate
your kind
words and support. I'll keep you posted as I move forward. Now, I'm trying to
think of the
best way to help implement the Change for Asbury Program I described
yesterday. I've
never done anything like
This post is a major bright spot on this gloomy day!
In a message dated 11/6/2007 10:16:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We are where we are. I know for a fact that the entire council and
governing body is fed up with Partners and wish they were gone. I am
not
Asbury Park, NJ—The best riders in street BMX came from across the country
to battle it out at the Red Bull Down Dirty contest, but it was a team of
underground locals that wowed them all
The event was put on in partnership with Zoo York, Madison Marquette with
course design by Animal
Another keeper. Post on refrigerator.
In a message dated 11/6/2007 7:42:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But we are where we are and
can't judge what's being done now by MM through the lens of where we
should have been had the past five years been different
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... Could that meeting be the first step to use
emminent domain AGAINST the Partners and to allow MM to take it all
over by themselves?
Just a thought - and a question for all of you to ponder.
Sobering thoughts about the arena. I remember when, a long time ago, AP
had all its hopes in one or two baskets (gambling, Jai alai, etc.).
Hope we stay on track with a holistic approach as mentioned in this
article. Adapted from Newark Arena's Economic Impact Unclear -
New York Times
Anyone agree that having portable toilets on the boardwalk is not in
the best interests of the City? Or am I alone on that one?
I'll agree with you there! I thought it was fine the first year or two,
but by that point, you'd think something more perminate would be visiable. The
In a message dated 11/6/2007 11:27:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have always said that keeping that property in public control, for
example leasing it to operators, would have been the best approach
instead of a sale.
In addition the Federal Historic
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sobering thoughts about the arena. I remember when, a long time
ago, AP
had all its hopes in one or two baskets (gambling, Jai alai, etc.).
Hope we stay on track with a holistic approach as mentioned in
this
article.
I would love to understand why the council has been so easy on
Partners for so long. That's a question that is often asked on this
board but never answered in any forum.
Maybe the city has that anything is better then nothing attitude going?
No idea.. I don't like to think that, but
All thats been done is yet more paint jobs and 'temporary' repairs to
the 5th Ave Pav. OK, the 'Plaza' (that's supposed to be green acres
space). The Casino/ConHall projects should have been started 5 years
ago. OK yes I'll give them credit for getting that jump started.
I think the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
As hard as it is to feel this way, I don't think MM can be saddled
with the sins of the past and be forced to play catchup, either by
working 5 times faster or by somehow being forced to deal with the
shortfall in
In a message dated 11/6/2007 10:33:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Asbury Park, NJ—The best riders in street BMX came from across the country
..., but it was a team of underground locals that wowed them allThe event
was put on in partnership Madison
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sobering thoughts about the arena. I remember when, a long time ago, AP
had all its hopes in one or two baskets (gambling, Jai alai, etc.).
Hope we stay on track with a holistic approach as mentioned in this
article.
In a message dated 11/6/2007 11:56:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It was in Public Property. It didn't work and it cost the city money - it
was a big circle.
The public part wasn't what kept Asbury down. Not as simple as that. Race
issues, general neglect of
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 11/6/2007 11:27:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have always said that keeping that property in public control,
for
example leasing it to operators, would have been the best
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 11/6/2007 11:56:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It was in Public Property. It didn't work and it cost the city
money - it was a big circle.
The public part wasn't what kept Asbury
I was wondering, can we/should we list all of OUR accomplishments
for the pat SIX (6) years?
How about our goals on how we will improve our life/our friends or
friends to be over the NEXT SIX (6) years.
Who wants to go first?
Actaully, Jack is first. He is doing something to solve a
In a message dated 11/6/2007 1:45:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Trust me on this. I was a retail tenant in a city owned building. That
being on the boardwalk.
Trust me. I was a resident even before Bruce the so-called riots. I seen
all phases since then.
Jack,
Today, I went past the park, slooowly and I thought it was a disgrace!
Not a light to be found! The plants? GONE! Not many people in the
park, due to the weather, but it looks neglected! NO, it isn't YOU!
What in the world is going on over there?
But this town has cajones, for a
I tried to notify Hinge of this but maybe it did not go through from
my blackberry.
Terry Reidy told me today that the city did contact JCPL when Jack
first notified him. I guess Terry did not respond to Jack directly.
Terry went right to the top at the utility and there was confirmation
that
From The Real Deal. I wonder who the purchaser is? I hope it is not
Dean Geibel the developer - I heard he was taking a PH.
Asbury Park condo sells for record $2.46M
The Esperanza in Asbury Park, N.J.
A penthouse unit at The Esperanza in Asbury Park, N.J., fetched $2.46
million, the most ever
A comment left on the Real Deal. Very unlike the typical negative NJ
comments on the APP anytime there is even a good AP story (see
today's APP about BCH).
My parents live in Allenhurst which is just north of Asbury.
Allenhurst and Deal just north are extremely wealthy towns where ocean
front
Nice job backing these guys up, keep up the good work! THANKS!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tried to notify Hinge of this but maybe it did not go through from
my blackberry.
Terry Reidy told me today that the city did contact JCPL when Jack
first
I support this cause and have donated; do you, have you?
When I was 12 years old, my Great Aunt (70 years old at the time)
would drag her aluminum lawn chair down to the Little League field
every summer Thursday; certainly you have similar memories!
Think Future.
This is once chance to
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