[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread fancypaaantz
The 8th Ave beach is the surfing beach. I would be very upset if that were made private. As much as it bothers me that it gets crowded now, I like having the option of surfing within walking distance of my house. In the app.com article, the wading pool is part of the beach club: The current

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread fancypaaantz
Think about it this way AP needs a full service fitness club. The natatorium was part of AP's history... If someone could go back to old photos and design a new building that looks like the old natatorium, but modernizes it with a fitness club component and a beach club component, that

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Work-Out-World (WOW) into the Sunset Ave pavili They went to Seaview Square, across from Costco. Werner more room, more parking. Gyms need lots of parking. Go to WOW a seaview at 6pm. Goof thing lowes isn't there. Lot

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... maybe one day this will be mootolaville, i hope not but if we give them everything that is where we are headed, let common sense prevail, lets increase beach traffic retail traffic special events traffic, and at the

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Think about it this way AP needs a full service fitness club. The natatorium was part of AP's history... If someone could go back to old photos and design a new building that looks like the old natatorium, but

[AsburyPark] Wesley Lake

2008-01-25 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I say drain it, pipe it and turn it into a giant fake lake - - part swimming pool, boat rides, wave pool and more... Now that is not such an

[AsburyPark] Chili Contest

2008-01-25 Thread hero4thering
What better way to warm up for the Super Bowl than with some prize winning chilis! Trinity Church is having their 1st Annual Chili Contest Sunday, February 3, 11:30-2:00. Following the 10 am service. Enter your own batch and/or sample and dine on other entries! $12 to enter (4 quart minimum)

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread MarioAPNJ
Thanks for that link. I was looking for this one: _Monte Carlo Swimming Pool Asbury Park, NJ_ (http://www.cardcow.com/100654/monte-carlo-swimming-pool-asbury-park-us-state-town-views-new-jersey-asbury-park /) Ah, yes! In a message dated 1/25/2008 12:09:15 P.M. Eastern Standard

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread charlie
I think we can look foward to the boardwalk having a lot of high end retails, and a gym of some sort. Look around, look what's being built. All these high end condos, some million dollar, are going to want these high end facilties. There's no way around that. I just hope they mix it up

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread charlie
fancypaaantz - Your ideas sound good. Who knows what will happen. Weren't there talks about a fitness club of some sort? Aside from the beach club? I don't remember exactly, but i'm sure someone will correct me. I think the beach club on 8th ave was to be built on the eastern

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do not misinterpret my silence here on many of these issues as no longer caring. I do as fervently as before. Dan everybody knows that my brother! You passed all the tests. You're a stinkin' local now like the rest of us

[AsburyPark] Re: BW Pets on Parade

2008-01-25 Thread FleurDeLis
The Krewe of Barkus rolls, tomorrow. All pets, all the time! My fave is the Krewe Du Vieux, the closest representation of the original parades, http://www.kreweduvieux.org/ - 9k The Magical Misery Tour! Don't know if this link will work, but the movie is at the site of last week's parade.

[AsburyPark] Re: Why high-end

2008-01-25 Thread FleurDeLis
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/2008 4:43:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sushi covered with melted cheese , sushi pork roll, sushi cheesesteak Good ol' pork roll on a Kneips roll. But not sold from a

[AsburyPark] Re: just when you thought it was safe....

2008-01-25 Thread asburycouple
Got to agree with you on this Tom. For those relatively few who are super close to Asbury and really understand it's past Brand Asbury means history and nostalgia. But for the overwhelming majority of people the brand is really defined by the past 30 years of decline, crime and decay. The

[AsburyPark] Re: Little League Update NO. 1

2008-01-25 Thread FleurDeLis
Now, THAT's, what I'm talking about! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park Little League field renovations to be meeting topic By _Nancy Shields_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) • COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU • January 24, 2008 _ ASBURY PARK †Last

[AsburyPark] Re: just when you thought it was safe....

2008-01-25 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I found particularly offensive and short-sighted at the Council Meeting presentation was the statement that they were Re-Branding Asbury Park. *And he is so correct it is not worth arguing.* Oh I think it's worth

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somehow, it has to be recouped by the one doing the work. It;s called profit - the reward for the idea and the MONEY and listening to the armchair qb's. And, we WILL NOT go over again the fact that the WRA was poorly written

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More brain-storming... lets go... Enough brain storming. We need action and money. Someone needs to put up the dough. If you can bring an investor in, do it. The problem is the DEAL. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit

[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Lake

2008-01-25 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that is not such an outlandish idea. That lake is unique in the region in that it has a LOT of man made infrastructure associated with it. Retaining walls, bridges, etc. It would not be too difficult to redirect

[AsburyPark] Re: just when you thought it was safe....

2008-01-25 Thread Jack Pitzer
Great post Dennis. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I am reading in digest mode, my 4th Asbury yahoo digest in less than 24 hours. Might I add that the AP Yahoo group has been a great read of late. All you new folks jumping in has brought fresh

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More brain-storming... lets go... Werner Money. Money. Money. There's plenty of AP's kiddie rides and games all in storage. Purchased by one collector. Theproblem is, you don't own the land. Yahoo! Groups

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . This all started with a beach club surrounding an 18 inch pool. That is not doing it right, in my view. And, I think that is a big old waste of money. To you and I it might be a waste of money. But if have kids,

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread fancypaaantz
Remembering also that history is also one of AP's biggest assets. So, after some of the main buildings (except the casino project, as that is huge and will likely be on a slower track) are restored and being used to generate $$, then focus can be shifted to rebuilding history, one project at a

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 1/25/2008 8:33:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Think bigger... Not just a gym. Picture a four story natatorium that looks like the old one. On --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) , [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ma I always

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Think bigger... Not just a gym. Picture a four story natatorium that looks like the old one. On the ground floor, a large, heated indoor pool surrounded by lounge chairs. Large windows facing the ocean that have

Re: [AsburyPark] AP Success

2008-01-25 Thread MarioAPNJ
OK Thanks. Thought maybe I missed something during my time here. In a message dated 1/25/2008 8:00:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asbury Park...The only difference is that it was highly successful due to good management. Werner, how far back

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread MarioAPNJ
I always thought the gym in Belmar, on Ocean Ave, was a great location for them; but I never saw any people in there, even during the peak summer months. Maybe too many distractions for working out -- or poor management... In a message dated 1/25/2008 7:41:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

[AsburyPark] Little League update NO. 2

2008-01-25 Thread GG518
Discussion about Asbury Park Little League field improvements reported 'positive' By _Nancy Shields_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) • COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU • January 24, 2008 * _Post a Comment_ (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080124/NEWS/80124098#pluckcomments)

[AsburyPark] Wesley Lake

2008-01-25 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cwpvt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fairly new to the area (3 years, North End of OG), and the Swan Boats reminded me, does anyone know when or who is going to clean up Wesley Lake, it has to be one of the most polluted bodies of water in the county. Who

[AsburyPark] AP Success

2008-01-25 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/2008 2:33:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Asbury Park...The only difference is that it was highly successful due to good management. Werner, how far back was that?

[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-25 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, FleurDeLis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: time! Our kids be damned! This is just my read! Ask for the books to be opened and reports be sent to the taxpayers! It comes down to results. No one complains about paying as long as there are results. The costs

[AsburyPark] Re: AP Success

2008-01-25 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the City came under investigation for questionable financial dealings and huge debt. That's why they tossed you in jail. If you ever had/have the opportunity to find someone that's left from those years (the 40's

[AsburyPark] Re: AP Success

2008-01-25 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: But the City came under investigation for questionable financial dealings and huge debt. That's why they tossed you in jail.

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread fancypaaantz
Everything takes $$. But it is not just about being an arm chair quarterback... We are all consumers here. Even if we do not have the money to build anyhthing ourselves, do we not have the voice to say what we would and would not spend our money on? Maybe no one will read this, but if more AP

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: More brain-storming... lets go... Enough brain storming. We need action and money. Someone needs to put up the dough. If you can bring an investor in, do

[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-25 Thread FleurDeLis
This is a late response, but if only 7% of property taxes go to education, what's all the b*tchin about? Not you personally, whine and moan about the school system, here, most of whom have NO kids, attending school here! So $504.00 of your 7200, for instance, goes to a system, that with Abbott

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread charlie
I don't know if i like the idea of recreaeting the building from the past known as the Natatorium. The building has been gone for decades, it's gone. A new building that serves the same function as the Natatorium once did would be good. The back end of the Casino should be rebuilt

[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Lake

2008-01-25 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets brain-storm this further... Werner I just did. I spoke to my father about it last night (marine it at monmouth). To sum it up ( I think we did this a few years ago) - the lake is a giant sewer - no exchange

[AsburyPark] Little League Update NO. 1

2008-01-25 Thread GG518
Asbury Park Little League field renovations to be meeting topic By _Nancy Shields_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) • COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU • January 24, 2008 * _Read Comments(1)_ (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080124/NEWS/80124045#pluckcomments) *

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread fancypaaantz
Think bigger... Not just a gym. Picture a four story natatorium that looks like the old one. On the ground floor, a large, heated indoor pool surrounded by lounge chairs. Large windows facing the ocean that have screens for summer and hurricane coverings for storms. Also locker rooms, saunas,

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread fancypaaantz
I hear ya. Although the swans is not an easy project either. That would require dredging/cleaning the lake. And that mini golf place this past summer was horrible. They could not even spring for some decent speakers to play the radio. Hurt my ears every time I went by. I am not saying

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pick a project, figure out how it can generate $$, build a business plan, consider the history of the area, and build and complete that project before moving on. Instead of throwing a bunch of stuff at the wall

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread MarioAPNJ
lol We keep hearing each other. Like preaching to the choir. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: I hear ya. Although the swans is not an easy project either. That would require dredging/cleaning the lake. Until that happens, use the swan boat image/replicas on the

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 1/25/2008 10:33:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: History does indeed have value ($$$) - However some of your suggestions are what some would call 'being a slave to history'. Not that it is, but be careful suggesting a backward going restoration.

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread fancypaaantz
The old one looked like a pretty large structure. http://www.cardcow.com/25986/boardwalk-at-natatorium-asbury-park-us- state-town-views-new-jersey-asbury-park/ Ah well, I am keeping my opinions to myself then. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread rook782
Two stories should be the max on the pavillions. If we want to go this extensive, why not rebuild the ocean side of the casino and put in all these features. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Think bigger... Not just a gym. Picture a four story

[AsburyPark] Local Tax person

2008-01-25 Thread fancypaaantz
Anyone know a good local tax person with reasonable rates? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remembering also that history is also one of AP's biggest assets. So, after some of the main buildings (except the casino project, as that is huge and will likely be on a slower track) are restored and being used

[AsburyPark] Re: Local Tax person

2008-01-25 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know a good local tax person with reasonable rates? Robert Carroll on Main St. I might not live in AP just yet, but I'll do business there. Reasonable for my purposes. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two stories should be the max on the pavillions. If we want to go this extensive, why not rebuild the ocean side of the casino and put in all these features.

[AsburyPark] just when you thought it was safe....

2008-01-25 Thread Traderdube
So, I am reading in digest mode, my 4th Asbury yahoo digest in less than 24 hours. Might I add that the AP Yahoo group has been a great read of late. All you new folks jumping in has brought fresh perspective and insight that has been simply wonderful after the 3 4 and 5 way cyber wars we have

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread charlie
I thought MM would know what their doing? I think they stil do? I don't know. let's see what they do. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread charlie
I don't want to cut and past everything you listed, but good ideas Werner! There could be two farris wheels however. Are there still plans to rebuilding part of the palace? Or has that boat left? I havn't heard anyone mention anything about it recently. I havn't scene or heard any

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread charlie
It looks large, but i think it's still only 2 stories - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

[AsburyPark] Coaster Article - Crime Rate Decreassed in 2007 in Asbury Park

2008-01-25 Thread rook782
Todays Coaster article states that the crime rate has decreased in Asbury Park from 2006. This is good news and I think the police department is finally moving in the right direction. What I found shocking was that in 2006 only 30 people were arrested for selling heroine, cocaine, and pot

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread fancypaaantz
I do not think any of the new things should be copied from history, so much as inspired by history with a modern twist/purpose. What originally started my thinking along the lines of the Natatorium, was the idea of an 18 inch pool. I was thinking, ugggh, after all those plans and speeches, is

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals

2008-01-25 Thread charlie
Oh and to that comment about the Stone Pony, if anything, that building should be restored or expanded, not torn down! Restored to what? I think it's about as close to the orginal now as you're gonna get! With the expection of some utility problems.