--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and I would suggest reading The 14 th Free Excersize
Clause as well
The 14th Amendment doesn't have a free exercise clause. That's the 1st.
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Why didn't the Jersey Shore Rescue Mission take in the people from
Monroe Towers?
Oh that's right, they hate women and gays.
Maybe if the people from Monroe claimed to be recently released
pedophiles they could have gotten some mercy.
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I wanna know when Kevin Brown is going to answer the only question I ever asked
of him
concerning Market Street Mission.
My question was very simple, and everytime I asked it, he ignored it, skirted
the issue, and
refused to answer.
KB supports Market Street Mission. But, since it's opened we
And let's not forget the little park/boat landing next to 7/11.
Drive into AP via the bridge, and you are quite likely to see people sleeping
there as well,
or worse.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jack you forgot the guys sleeping at Sunset and
Jack you forgot the guys sleeping at Sunset and Main, a main
entrance to the beachfront for people wondering if Asbury has
changed.
It has changed. JSRM idea of just kicking them out all day (how
caring) has changed Asbury for the worse.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL
Kevin doesn't care at all about any of us. He's got an agenda and
any of us who actually live here don't matter what-so-ever to him.
That's why he's never answerwed the question. For Kevin what we who
live here want is irrelevant because it's all about him, and it's
very easy for him to
Whats amazing is that he cares more about people who don't take responsibility
for their
own lives then people that do.
Of course, some people that become homeless do so by no fault of their own, but
a vast
majority of the ones i've seen in AP appear to be troubled souls with alcohol
and drug
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why didn't the Jersey Shore Rescue Mission take in the people from
Monroe Towers?
Oh that's right, they hate women and gays.
Maybe if the people from Monroe claimed to be recently released
pedophiles they
To be homeless, in a country that is so wealthy, is an
embarrassment.
If you are asking me who I would run to first when given the option
to aid and comfort?
A) A Homeless Person
B) A disgruntled home owner, who doesn't like the homeless person
standing on the corner.
I would have to answer;
..and the cow goes; m
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jack you forgot the guys sleeping at Sunset and Main, a main
entrance to the beachfront for people wondering if Asbury has
changed.
It has changed. JSRM idea of just kicking
If what Hinge says is true, than I have to conclude that Market
Street Mission may not be enough to handle the homeless population of
Asbury Park. Maybe Asbury needs another shelter? A city run, city
funded shelter. Each Municipality should be made to provide homeless
services for it's
Your criminals have increased not because of the shelter, but because
of the prosecutors offices and other State funded services in the
State building that was built in Asbury Park.
You all need a reality check!
Your hatred of MSM, has blinded you. To the point that you will
blame me if
And the rooster went, coc a doodle do.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whats amazing is that he cares more about people who don't take
responsibility for their
own lives then people that do.
Of course, some people that become homeless do so by no fault
Alcoholics and drug addicts who panhandle and sleep on the streets
need to make a choice to beat their addictions. Institutions that
simply call these people homeless and throw food and blankets at
them do more harm than good. Allowing addicts to feed their
addictions rather than forcing
Your posts prove to me that you really aren't a spiritual person.
A true reverend would actually address concerns raised to them in a fair and
balanced
way.
You resort to lame comments and the calling of names.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And the
Sorry Kevin Brown, you are wrong as always. You never address the concerns of
people
who actually live, work and spend money in AP.
I do all three. I've seen an increase in street people. I've seen people
pissing in Library
Square Park (yesterday).
Maybe you should get your head out of the
That arguement is best held with the medical community.
As far as institutionalizing the mentally disbled, after they were
de-inst by the Late John F Kennedy requires a legislative action or a
police decree of harmful to community and or self.
You are avoiding the basis of the remedy... you
all this coming from:
Yahoo! ID: hinge98
Real Name: Hinge
Nickname:
Location: Asbury Park, NJ
Age: 45
Marital Status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Audio Engineer, Musician, Pixel Pusher
Because you have no real name other than HINGE, I will nic name you;
Miriam... it fits you to a
Hypothetically speaking, let's say the MSM takes in a homeless drug user who's
trying to
get their act together.
MSM discharges this person in the morning, and they are left to wander the
tempting
streets of AP until the evening.
Does it occure to you Kevin how many drug dealers are still in
Um, in case you are new here, plenty of people in this group know my real name,
where I
work, where I live and what kind of car I drive.
And you really should reconsider the reverend title, because it's obviously
BS.
You don't communicate like any reverend i've ever heard of.
And it's pretty
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please answer my pet friendly question about your event.
Thank You
KB
City ordinance, no animals east of ocean ave
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Please answer my pet friendly question about your event.
Thank You
KB
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Paul Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alcoholics and drug addicts who panhandle and sleep on the streets
need to make a choice to beat their addictions. Institutions that
simply call
You must be reading my mind! I just thought of them, when I used my
coffee pot to heat water for tea! Ran into my neighbor over at Chat
and Nibble and he informed me that all the Salvation Army offered him
and his wife was a cot! Having a bad back, he and his wife went to
the Chrystal Inn on
Kevin,
No need for name calling! I don't see ANY criminals, here Not here
in this group or in Asbury Park. AP citizens have a right to disagree
on ANYthing! I would NEVER call them criminals simply because they
don't agree! While I think the homeless SHOULD be cared for, SHOULD
be given
They are a shelter. To expect a shelter to do more that provide a
clean, safe place to sleep, is like expecting Motel six to drive you
when you check out to your next destination.
Besides, if memory serves me correctly the opposition to MSM objected
to them doing drug alcohol counseling.
Let's not let Reverend Brown draw us into irrelevant arguments.
Our problem with the mission is that they draw in homeless from all
over the state, so they are people that would not be Asbury's moral
obligation to help; that would be the moral obligation of their own
towns. The fact that
Mario had this to say:
President James Madison: A just government has no need for the
clergy
V
It is a perfect statement, and I agree with Madison.
... and it looks like in New Jersey, the clergy will be in business
for a long, long time.
Better to be boring than a self-righteous, self important blowhard.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Your criminals have increased not because of the shelter, but
because
of the prosecutors offices and other State funded services in the
State
Wow, I guess you guys have been going at it for a
while. New to the list though I have been told about
the cretin mentality that exists here.
Kevin, who ever you are, you don't have to be evolved
to be an attorney, and obviously you don't have to be
honest. The mission of course does not hate
Gabrielleobre, thank you for you frank and informative comment.
So may I conclude that you would like for the Jersey Shore rescue
Mission to remain in Asbury Park?
Would you be opposed to the Lighthouse Mission, now in Long Branch,
being forced to relocate, if they loose the litigation between
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, gabrielle obre
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow, I guess you guys have been going at it for a
while. New to the list though I have been told about
the cretin mentality that exists here.
Starting right out with an insult to everyone here. Interesting way
to
Apparently Kevin has gotten in touch with his feminine side. Nice
try Kevin...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, gabrielle obre
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow, I guess you guys have been going at it for a
while. New to the list though I have been told about
the cretin mentality that
LOL - again thanks for the laugh.
KB
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Apparently Kevin has gotten in touch with his feminine side. Nice
try Kevin...
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I am sorry Dan the Federal Statutes makes it clear... :...no law...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote:
You really need to read the First Amendment of The United States
Consitution, and I
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Taxation allows the redistribution of wealth. It does God's work.
Dan:
That's a mouth full. I remember when I first came to Long Branch in
the early 90's. A senior citisen actually hung himself leaveing a
note. I
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However - when it comes to real
estate taxes, forget it, cause God made it all anyway, man is just
ripping off his fellow man selling rights he has not rights too!
God Bless the fish
Taxation allows the
: A just government has no need for the clergy
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Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Jersey Shore
Rescue Mission Date: 5/9/2007 9:41:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time From:
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(mailto:AsburyPark
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
If you included local Government and Schools paying their fair
share
than I would have no problem with local real estate tax on all
buildings across the board.
But you and I won't see it in our life times...
In
Public schools no. They are government property and exempt. Private
and parochial schools yes. Then government, with the extra revenue
from taxation of all, except public property, can decide to give
grants to those uses providing valid charitable purposes. Houses of
worship get nothing
against every form of tyranny
over the mind of man. But this is all they have to fear from me: and enough,
too, in their opinion.
-Thomas Jefferson, Sept. 23, 1800
God bless Thomas Jefferson_
Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Jersey Shore
Rescue Mission Date: 5/9
and so everyone is clear on my opinion of taxes here.
I think Government has grown larger than the Kingdon of God on the
earth. We can not afford the taxes to pay fulltime career
politicians their tribute any longer.
I think we should end elected office.
I think the States should concentrate
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am talking about actual religious activity, where there is such
occurring, it should be exempt from Government involvement and
control.
Personally, I think there should be no exemptions for religious uses.
In that
Well what about secular charity, and municipal organizations as well as
fraternal organizations? Should they as well loose their inherent good
to the community status?
Cause if you just target the religious community than you loose me
totally.
KB
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well what about secular charity, and municipal organizations as well
as
fraternal organizations? Should they as well loose their inherent
good
to the community status?
Cause if you just target the religious
You really need to read the First Amendment of The United States
Consitution, and I would suggest reading The 14 th Free Excersize
Clause as well as The Religious Land Use INstitutionalised Persons
Act of 2000, which by the way, was signed by Former President Clinton.
Check to see if any
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You really need to read the First Amendment of The United States
Consitution, and I would suggest reading The 14 th Free Excersize
Clause as well as The Religious Land Use INstitutionalised Persons
Act of 2000, which
Dan I agree with you, however if municipalities didn't draw first blood
for over a decade the religious institutions would not have had any
success when we lobbied the summer of 2000 for the Religious Land Use
act. (RLUIPA 2000)
Than there is that one sacred question; how do we interpret no
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Code is arbitrary, capricious and abused in many communities. Code
enforcement officials are almost always political appointees.
If the decision of a zoning, planning board, etc. is capricious
and/or arbitrary it
Dan Wrote:
How about the abuse of religious organizations is exemption from
taxation for portions of their property not used for religious
purposes? Why couldn't portions of the property used by JSM to sell
items be taxed?
Dan Iam not sure what you are actually referring
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dropping the seeds.
ASBURY PARK â The Jersey Shore Rescue Mission will distribute
winter coats to
those in need from 10 a.m. to noon today at 701 Memorial Drive.
Coats will be given free of cost. Coats for men, women and
Jack,
It's funny that you mentioned us as an Empire in your closing lines!
President Bush has regressed us BACK to being exactly THAT, similar
to the way England was in the 1400's! We are now encroaching
Imperialists who invaded Iraq for Nothing, NOW Bush wants to attack
Iran, and use Nukes,
Hi Jack,
You seem like a genuinely Open and Nice Person, much more so than most
of the People who are engineering the Disaster that's happening here
in Asbury Park.
The first thing that you might want to consider when talking about the
Homeless resorting to Crime is that the below People were
I don't know what the answer is to all this, but I can say this.
Racism is disgusting to me.
The other day, out of the blue when I was talking about AP with a contractor,
he told a
story about how his family owned a hotel in AP, and that they built a pool, and
how he was
disgusted one day to
Steve,
You talk about Asbury Park
being the last county to endorse Civil Rights and then go on to say:
Racism is based in Ignorance, Fear and Hatred All of which
those Leaders spew all over! The GLBT's and Hasidics can dominate HELL after
they're done with Asbury Park Die!
Sharon,
Where'd you get the idea that the Homeless will be trucked in from
other cities, like Atlantic City and Newark? That's Absurd! There
are enough Homeless within a 2 Mile Radius of Asbury Park to keep the
Jersey Shore Rescue Mission going indefinitely into the future!
What really amazes
Greetings,
Sharon didn't write the comment about trucking in people. I did.
I got my information from standupforasbury.org, both from the website and from
a phone
discussion.
This is what stand up states;
The Mission is not offering a community service it will serve the homeless
and
drug
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