Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-12-12 Thread pski
maggior;672472 Wrote: ??? Before the remasters of the entire genesis catalog, this album sounded pretty flat IMHO. I prefer to listen to the live version in the box set. The remaster really brought this recording to life. Who and when was that? My copy of Lamb is Japanese and predates

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-12-12 Thread maggior
pski;676196 Wrote: Who and when was that? My copy of Lamb is Japanese and predates anything I've seen on CD. P In 11/2008, a box set of the 70's PG era albums in remastered (and 5.1) form were released. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_1970-1975 There were 3 additional boxes:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-12-11 Thread wireless200
Kvaks;614851 Wrote: Rush's comeback album Vapor Trails is unlistenable. The music probably isn't as good as old Rush albums, but this recording doesn't even give you a chance to find out. Sounds like the person responsible for mixing it turned everything to 11 all the time. And if I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-12-11 Thread Mnyb
wireless200;676060 Wrote: Funny you should mention those. I posted a review on Snakes and Arrows on Amazon that has the same sentiment. Many Rush fans were not happy. there is an online petition for a remaster of vapor trails :) it's no more than circa 1000 people that have signed it so

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-12-11 Thread wireless200
Mnyb;676066 Wrote: there is an online petition for a remaster of vapor trails :) it's no more than circa 1000 people that have signed it so for unfathomable reason people can actually listen to vapor trails ? I never managed to listen to a complete song ? So millions of Rush fans are near

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-29 Thread TiredLegs
AndrewFG;673238 Wrote: Interesting. An audiophile friend once told me that were different releases of this disc (and also of Love Over Gold) and that some are considered to be world class, whereas others definitely not. My discs are pre- Jurassic Made in W. Germany by PolyGram -- anyone

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-28 Thread AndrewFG
Soulkeeper;613480 Wrote: My CD version of -Brothers in Arms- (Dire Straits) is pretty horrible. The drums sound like something from an overdriven 1980 PC speaker (the small speaker located inside the PC cabinet, not the attachable stuff that is audiophile in comparison).Interesting. An

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-24 Thread pski
maggior;672143 Wrote: I just got my copy of this yesterday. Wow, the sound quality is so much better. Now the recording has the balls it always should have had. It's like a haze has been lifted off of it and the true sound comes through. Listening to this album before I always felt like

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-24 Thread maggior
pski;672440 Wrote: Lamb Lies Down on Broadway? Thripfgt? ??? Before the remasters of the entire genesis catalog, this album sounded pretty flat IMHO. I prefer to listen to the live version in the box set. The remaster really brought this recording to life. -- maggior Rich -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-23 Thread maggior
Soundman;671063 Wrote: Another good alternative is the 2011 remixed and remastered version by Steven Wilson, the new 2011 40th Anniversary Release from October 2011. It's of course much easier to find than the DCC-version and also sounds dryer (like the DCC-version) and it definitely sounds

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-21 Thread Phil Leigh
Soundman;671063 Wrote: Another good alternative is the 2011 remixed and remastered version by Steven Wilson, the new 2011 40th Anniversary Release from October 2011. It's of course much easier to find than the DCC-version and also sounds dryer (like the DCC-version) and it definitely sounds

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-21 Thread cliveb
Mnyb;671187 Wrote: Is Blaze of glory one of the 2 albums that actually use this technology ? I have no idea whether a pre-emphasised version of Blaze of Glory was ever made. It was just a guess as to one possible explanation for what you hear. However, your comments about the album prompted

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-21 Thread TiredLegs
Archimago;671736 Wrote: They're even marketing this as mastered for iTunes as if it's some badge of honour! http://productionadvice.co.uk/mastered-for-itunes/ Back in the 1960s, when most radio stations had an actual DJ in the studio who manually queued up 45 rpms, lots of records were

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-21 Thread steveinaz
Lake's first album. Almost beer coaster fodder; most awful sounding CD I own. Shame too, I love that album. -- steveinaz - transport: squeezebox touch - dac: benchmark dac/pre - linestage: placette passive - power amplifier: parasound hca-1500a - speakers: fritz speakers carbon 7 monitor -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-21 Thread Archimago
TiredLegs;671778 Wrote: Back in the 1960s, when most radio stations had an actual DJ in the studio who manually queued up 45 rpms, lots of records were specifically mastered for AM radio heard through crappy car speakers. Engineers would put such gear into their mastering studios, to hear

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-21 Thread Mnyb
cliveb;671756 Wrote: I have no idea whether a pre-emphasised version of Blaze of Glory was ever made. It was just a guess as to one possible explanation for what you hear. However, your comments about the album prompted me to give it a fresh listen on my main system. OK, it *does* sound a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-20 Thread Archimago
I don't mind 'bad' music since this is subjective - hey, I even tolerated William Shatner's recent 2 CD talk-a-thon :-). It's the *incompetence* that I get angry at where decent music gets willingly destroyed as suggested by many posts above. My list of disappointments: - Metallica - Death

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-19 Thread ghostrider
CharlieG;671267 Wrote: I read this and thought wow, all of my Steely Dan albums have really good sound quality. So I am listening to Gaucho now...sounds great :-) Do you really think Gaucho has the poorest sound quality in your entire collection? It's a little light on the bass but I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-19 Thread jhonsber...@msn.com
CharlieG;671267 Wrote: I read this and thought wow, all of my Steely Dan albums have really good sound quality. So I am listening to Gaucho now...sounds great :-) Do you really think Gaucho has the poorest sound quality in your entire collection? Just kidding . Steely Dan's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-19 Thread CharlieG
jhonsber...@msn.com;671506 Wrote: Just kidding . Steely Dan's recordings are some of the best quality ever. So, you were just seeing if anyone was awake :-) -- CharlieG CharlieG's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-18 Thread Soundman
Phil Leigh;614846 Wrote: He did - Ian has the ONLY 1st gen master in existence - the 3 versions I mentioned all used it. No other version does. These versions sound much better - the DCC version being the best. I'm not a big fan of Steve Hoffman or the MOFI smile curve, but unless you have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-18 Thread TiredLegs
artintampa;670903 Wrote: My most disappointing recording is Robin Trower's Bridge of Sighs. I am not sure if it's because it was my first Rock Concert when I was 12 or it's actually good music. I think the guitar work is very impressive and the music unique but the recording is flat and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-18 Thread cliveb
magiccarpetride;613593 Wrote: For the purposes of this thread, let's mostly try to focus on the worst sounding recording, even if the recorded music is brilliant. I realize that it's much harder to top Mr. Gone and find an album that is equally atrocious in both areas. I had this album on

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-18 Thread cliveb
Mnyb;615919 Wrote: Joe jackson blaze of glory Strange - if someone insisted I name my favourite JJ album I think on balance it would be Blaze of Glory. I don't detect any serious SQ issues. Sure, it's not in the Body Soul league, but I can't help thinking you must either have a different

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-18 Thread artintampa
I can understand the desire to listen to a good performance but if the recording is not palatable I would never play it often. I will always appreciate the effort and talent of the artist but inevitably I will start getting distracted by the poor recording. When I upgraded my stereo it became a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-18 Thread Mnyb
cliveb;671092 Wrote: Strange - if someone insisted I name my favourite JJ album I think on balance it would be Blaze of Glory. I don't detect any serious SQ issues. Sure, it's not in the Body Soul league, but I can't help thinking you must either have a different mastering (mine is an

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-18 Thread Mnyb
cliveb;671092 Wrote: Strange - if someone insisted I name my favourite JJ album I think on balance it would be Blaze of Glory. I don't detect any serious SQ issues. Sure, it's not in the Body Soul league, but I can't help thinking you must either have a different mastering (mine is an

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-18 Thread artintampa
The first great digital recording I ever owned was Dire Straits' Brothers in Arms. I was still in college and had a low/moderate Pioneer rack stereo system. I could not stop playing that CD mostly because of the talent but partly because of the quality of the recording. When I upgraded to the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-18 Thread cliveb
Mnyb;671104 Wrote: It's very hollow and thin and edgy at the same time , with my current speakers I can listen to it, I use the tilt control And rise the bass +10dB and lower the treble -10dB as it is a tilt control I it is a linear slope from bottom to top then it starts to sound ok

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-18 Thread jhonsber...@msn.com
Steely Dan's Gaucho. -- jhonsber...@msn.com jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85882

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-18 Thread cunobelinus
Fairport Convention: Liege and Leaf. The vinyl sound is awful (a set of jigs and reels, for instance, sounds as though played in Das Boot (or should that be im Boot?), possibly behind some blankets, and recorded somewhere slightly outside it); the CD is at best no better; the digital downloads

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-18 Thread InTheBath
Great thread. Can't agree with The Ghost Of Tom Joad and Liege Lief. I love both these recordings - perhaps I think they just suit the music well. There's lots of stuff recorded very basically that I think shines because of it. Some of it ancient, some newer. LoveTd Hawkin's Venice Beach Tapes

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-18 Thread Mnyb
cliveb;671137 Wrote: Are you sure you don't have a pre-emphasised version that hasn't be de-emphasised? How much fssh fshh sound does it give you ? de emp there is probably a filter in some software I could use suggestions :) Is Blaze of glory one of the 2 albums that actually use this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-18 Thread CharlieG
jhonsber...@msn.com;671141 Wrote: Steely Dan's Gaucho. I read this and thought wow, all of my Steely Dan albums have really good sound quality. So I am listening to Gaucho now...sounds great :-) Do you really think Gaucho has the poorest sound quality in your entire collection? --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-17 Thread artintampa
My most disappointing recording is Robin Trower's Bridge of Sighs. I am not sure if it's because it was my first Rock Concert when I was 12 or it's actually good music. I think the guitar work is very impressive and the music unique but the recording is flat and hard to get through. It's been

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-17 Thread paulster
artintampa;670903 Wrote: My most disappointing recording is Robin Trower's Bridge of Sighs. I am not sure if it's because it was my first Rock Concert when I was 12 or it's actually good music. I think the guitar work is very impressive and the music unique but the recording is flat and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-17 Thread artintampa
Let me be totally honest, I didnt think anybody.. I mean anybody has heard of him and even less that particular album. WOW paulster;670909 Wrote: Peter Mew remastered it in 2007 at Abbey Road. Clearly he didn't have a lot to work with as it still sounds like the bottom few octaves are

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-17 Thread garym
artintampa;670919 Wrote: Let me be totally honest, I didnt think anybody.. I mean anybody has heard of him and even less that particular album. WOW Art, Bridge of Sighs got lots of radio play where I grew up (Texas). And of course, Robin Trower was famous as Procol Harem's guitar player

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-17 Thread artintampa
When I was growing up. He was very underground in the Tampa area. He received very little air time on 98Rock. When he came in concert it was a very small venue in a small town about an hour from Tampa (which at the time was very small in itself). He was touted to have a similar Hendrix sound

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-11-17 Thread MeSue
artintampa;670926 Wrote: 98Rock I grew up on 98 Rock! Well, except during my alt-rock years. I have heard the name Robin Trower but couldn't name any songs even though I have probably heard him on the Tampa Bay radio stations back in the day. I do like blues rock so will add it to my sample

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-12 Thread earwaxer9
Lousy sounding CD's has been a fact of life for me as a 60's, 70's rocker. I can give numerous examples from the Stones to Genesis. Thin recordings lacking in depth. No 'meat on the bones'. I'm not sure if the LP's sounded better (in the time). I think they did. Due to several factors. Large

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-10 Thread pski
firedog;615906 Wrote: I tend to block the really bad ones out and never listen to them or get rid of them, but... A Wizard, A True Star LP by Todd Rundgren. Well over 50 minutes, and heavily compressed to make it playable. No real high or low frequencies, and the music (which I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-07 Thread Percival Sweetwater
Cat 7e at least, with gold plated connectors at each end! Also disable the Touch's screen, and analogue output, and hack around with the firmware a bit. Never use the SD card or USB port, or the TOSLINK. Feed into a Wolfson DAC with a length of OFC 75 Ohm coax the length of which should be a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-07 Thread ralphpnj
Percival Sweetwater;616116 Wrote: Cat 7e at least, with gold plated connectors at each end! Also disable the Touch's screen, and analogue output, and hack around with the firmware a bit. Never use the SD card or USB port, or the TOSLINK. Feed into a Wolfson DAC with a length of OFC 75 Ohm

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-07 Thread Phil Leigh
May I remind you that the wearing of suitable headgear (as promoted by our friend MNYB) is mandatory: http://www.cafepress.co.uk/+snake-oil+hats-caps -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-07 Thread ralphpnj
Phil Leigh;616156 Wrote: May I remind you that the wearing of suitable headgear (as promoted by our friend MNYB) is mandatory: http://www.cafepress.co.uk/+snake-oil+hats-caps Oh dear! How could we have forgotten about the caps. Please Phil do tell us which style and color cap works best

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-07 Thread Phil Leigh
ralphpnj;616163 Wrote: Oh dear! How could we have forgotten about the caps. Please Phil do tell us which style and color cap works best with which type of music. White or black for jazz? Blue for Jazz. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-07 Thread Robin Bowes
On 07/03/11 17:42, Phil Leigh wrote: ralphpnj;616163 Wrote: Oh dear! How could we have forgotten about the caps. Please Phil do tell us which style and color cap works best with which type of music. White or black for jazz? Blue for Jazz. Kind of... -- Feed that ego and you starve the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-07 Thread Phil Leigh
Robin Bowes;616231 Wrote: On 07/03/11 17:42, Phil Leigh wrote: ralphpnj;616163 Wrote: Oh dear! How could we have forgotten about the caps. Please Phil do tell us which style and color cap works best with which type of music. White or black for jazz? Blue for Jazz. Kind

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-06 Thread firedog
I tend to block the really bad ones out and never listen to them or get rid of them, but... A Wizard, A True Star LP by Todd Rundgren. Well over 50 minutes, and heavily compressed to make it playable. No real high or low frequencies, and the music (which I actually like) is sort of high

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-06 Thread firedog
TiredLegs;615624 Wrote: There's a DCC version of Aqualung currently listed on eBay for $284! (http://cgi.ebay.com/JETHRO-TULL-Aqualung-Rare-DCC-Gold-Disc-CD-SEALED-oop-/360322542448) That price, by the way, is cheaper than for any new condition version of that CD I could find elsewhere. Not

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-06 Thread Mnyb
Joe jackson blaze of glory . The sound is thin and fatiguing :( it sound like it's gone trough and reverse riaa filter then someone by mistake sent this to the cd plant instead of the lp plant, except for that if memory serves me rigth the lp i once had sounded just as bad. The whole production

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-06 Thread ralphpnj
firedog;615906 Wrote: I tend to block the really bad ones out and never listen to them or get rid of them, but... A Wizard, A True Star LP by Todd Rundgren. Well over 50 minutes, and heavily compressed to make it playable. No real high or low frequencies, and the music (which I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-06 Thread firedog
Boy, writing that made me go back and listen to my FLAC rip of the CD. Not quite as bad sounding as the LP - I think the quiet background and greater dynamics of the CD help it - but it still sounds so flat and lifeless. I actually like the music and lyrics. But it is definitely one of those

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-06 Thread Percival Sweetwater
Henry, I'm sure a 24bit 192kHz version would sound infinitely better! -- Percival Sweetwater Percival Sweetwater's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43302 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-06 Thread Robin Bowes
On 06/03/11 20:41, Percival Sweetwater wrote: Henry, I'm sure a 24bit 192kHz version would sound infinitely better! Only if streamed as wav (not FLAC), and from a Windows server, not linux, and using a green cable, not red. R. -- Feed that ego and you starve the soul - Colonel J.D. Wilkes

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-06 Thread ralphpnj
Robin Bowes;615946 Wrote: On 06/03/11 20:41, Percival Sweetwater wrote: Henry, I'm sure a 24bit 192kHz version would sound infinitely better! Only if streamed as wav (not FLAC), and from a Windows server, not linux, and using a green cable, not red. R. Streamed wirelessly or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-05 Thread TiredLegs
There's a DCC version of Aqualung currently listed on eBay for $284! (http://cgi.ebay.com/JETHRO-TULL-Aqualung-Rare-DCC-Gold-Disc-CD-SEALED-oop-/360322542448) -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-05 Thread WAD62
The worst quality recording I have is The Dead Kennedys - Fresh fruit for rotting vegetables...great punk album, but sounds like it was mastered on a cassette inside a toilet -- WAD62 Cheers Will WAD62's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-05 Thread Phil Leigh
TiredLegs;615624 Wrote: There's a DCC version of Aqualung currently listed on eBay for $284! (http://cgi.ebay.com/JETHRO-TULL-Aqualung-Rare-DCC-Gold-Disc-CD-SEALED-oop-/360322542448) That price, by the way, is cheaper than for any new condition version of that CD I could find elsewhere. Not

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-05 Thread Henry66
A challenge: load your worst sounding track into 'MasVis' (http://lts.a.se.hemsida.eu/lts/masvis) and try to top this: [image: http://i.imgur.com/zFwPn.gif] -- Henry66 Henry66's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-05 Thread Mnyb
What ? I can't hear you ? was it poke her face ;) -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-04 Thread TiredLegs
firedog;615150 Wrote: ATMP had the Phil Spector production with the wall of sound. So many instruments/tracks on each song they had to heavily compress and I think, bounce the tracks down (combine several tracks into one, and then add more) to complete them. That accounts for a lot of what

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-04 Thread pski
Phil Leigh;614751 Wrote: The secret with Aqualung is to get the RIGHT one... that was actually mastered from the master tapes not a 3rd gen safety copy on vinyl this meant a first UK pressing... now it means the Classic Records 2007 issue on CD it's way more complicated... you need

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-04 Thread Phil Leigh
pski;615554 Wrote: What about my Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab copy that says Source: The Original Stereo Master Tape Mastered with the Ortofon cutting system? P quote from Steve Hoffman: As I've said many times, if you want the sound of the MoFi version but don't want it built in to your

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-03 Thread firedog
TiredLegs;614726 Wrote: My CD of -Brothers In Arms- sounds great. I don't have the disc handy, so I'm not sure what particular version it is, but it's at least 10 years old. Regarding my own worst sounding CDs: - George Harrison: -All Things Must Pass- -All Things Must Pass- was even

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-02 Thread Phil Leigh
magiccarpetride;614774 Wrote: Why is it that Ian Anderson, after doing a very commendable job with remastering the first 3 Jethro Tull albums, didn't carry on with Aqualung? I personally find the 2002 remaster of Stand Up to really work for me, even better than the original LP pressing. But

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-02 Thread Kvaks
Rush's comeback album Vapor Trails is unlistenable. The music probably isn't as good as old Rush albums, but this recording doesn't even give you a chance to find out. Sounds like the person responsible for mixing it turned everything to 11 all the time. And if I recall correctly, their next

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-02 Thread magiccarpetride
Phil Leigh;614846 Wrote: He did - Ian has the ONLY 1st gen master in existence - the 3 versions I mentioned all used it. No other version does. These versions sound much better - the DCC version being the best. I'm not a big fan of Steve Hoffman and the smile curve, but unless you have heard

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-02 Thread paulster
magiccarpetride;614931 Wrote: What is 'DCC'? Also, what is the 'smile curve'? Smile curve is an EQ curve boosted at bottom and top ends and potentially cut in the middle, like the Loudness buttons of old. Imagine a graphic equaliser with the controls set in the shape of a smiling mouth, like a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-02 Thread magiccarpetride
paulster;614935 Wrote: Smile curve is an EQ curve boosted at bottom and top ends and potentially cut in the middle, like the Loudness buttons of old. Imagine a graphic equaliser with the controls set in the shape of a smiling mouth, like a ) rotated by 90 degrees. Doh! Makes perfect sense

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-02 Thread Phil Leigh
magiccarpetride;614931 Wrote: Thanks Phil. Pardon my ignorance, but what is 'DCC'? Also, what is the 'smile curve'? (god, I feel so retarded right now:( Paulster has explained the smile curve EQ... DCC was a label that did some great CD remasters...

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-02 Thread Mnyb
Kvaks;614851 Wrote: Rush's comeback album Vapor Trails is unlistenable. The music probably isn't as good as old Rush albums, but this recording doesn't even give you a chance to find out. Sounds like the person responsible for mixing it turned everything to 11 all the time. And if I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-02 Thread Stratmangler
Michael Schenker Group - MSG - very good songs let down by PPP Chris :( -- Stratmangler There is no element of personal attack in my response. Stratmangler's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-02 Thread paulster
Stratmangler;614945 Wrote: Michael Schenker Group - MSG - very good songs let down by PPP As soon as I saw PPP I knew you must be English before even looking at your location! Very true regarding this album; I'd forgotten just how bad it is. I suppose an honourable(?) mention should go to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-02 Thread Mnyb
Stratmangler;614945 Wrote: Michael Schenker Group - MSG - very good songs let down by PPP Chris :( MSG leads to UFO , they did really bad sounding records they where bad on LP too really bad , I remeber not even wasting a crome tape copying UFO back when , that was pointless you did not

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-02 Thread Phil Leigh
Mnyb;614956 Wrote: MSG leads to UFO , they did really bad sounding records they where bad on LP too really bad , I remeber not even wasting a crome tape copying UFO back when , that was pointless you did not hear a quality loss going from vinyl to cassette with UFO . I'm not a native

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-02 Thread Phil Leigh
OK - it's Friends of Hell by Witchfinder General. I wish it HAD been affected by Loudness Wars :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom

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2011-03-02 Thread maggior
Kvaks;614851 Wrote: Rush's comeback album Vapor Trails is unlistenable. The music probably isn't as good as old Rush albums, but this recording doesn't even give you a chance to find out. Sounds like the person responsible for mixing it turned everything to 11 all the time. And if I

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2011-03-02 Thread Stratmangler
Mnyb;614956 Wrote: MSG leads to UFO , they did really bad sounding records they where bad on LP too really bad , I remeber not even wasting a crome tape copying UFO back when , that was pointless you did not hear a quality loss going from vinyl to cassette with UFO . I'm not a native

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2011-03-02 Thread magiccarpetride
Phil Leigh;614938 Wrote: Paulster has explained the smile curve EQ... DCC was a label that did some great CD remasters... http://www.collecting-tull.com/Albums/Aqualung_DCC.html Thanks Phil. One more question, if you don't mind: how do you recommend we go about getting this version of

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2011-03-02 Thread Phil Leigh
magiccarpetride;614988 Wrote: Thanks Phil. One more question, if you don't mind: how do you recommend we go about getting this version of Aqualung? Is it available for order online? Well you could buy one for $100+ from eBay... they've been out of print for ages and are highly prized by Tull

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2011-03-02 Thread magiccarpetride
Phil Leigh;615000 Wrote: Well you could buy one for $100+ from eBay... they've been out of print for ages and are highly prized by Tull fans. Google aqualung dcc gold cd for more ideas... Thanks. Not sure it's worth $100 to me, though. Once again, why can't Ian Anderson offer it through

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2011-03-02 Thread JJZolx
Phil Leigh;614846 Wrote: He did - Ian has the ONLY 1st gen master in existence - the 3 versions I mentioned all used it. No other version does. These versions sound much better - the DCC version being the best. I'm not a big fan of Steve Hoffman or the MOFI smile curve, but unless you have

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2011-03-02 Thread Phil Leigh
JJZolx;615026 Wrote: But the DCC version was remastered by Steve Hoffman. Yes I know... my bad phrasing. I meant I'm not normally a big fan of SH but this is very good :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...

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2011-03-01 Thread TiredLegs
Soulkeeper;613480 Wrote: My CD version of -Brothers in Arms- (Dire Straits) is pretty horrible. The drums sound like something from an overdriven 1980 PC speaker (the small speaker located inside the PC cabinet, not the attachable stuff that is audiophile in comparison). My CD of -Brothers

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2011-03-01 Thread darrenyeats
TiredLegs;614726 Wrote: And I don't know what's up with the engineering of Bruce Springsteen's albums, but nearly all of them sound like they were recorded with amateur equipment, including most of the recent releases. I know he's often trying for that Wall of Sound style, but it's more like

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2011-03-01 Thread Phil Leigh
maggior;614743 Wrote: Am I alone in liking this album? :-). It's not my favorite Weather Report album, but it is far from my least favorite. I know the focus is on recording quality, but I can't help but bring up Zero Tolerance for Silence by Pat Metheny. Ugh! An album that always

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2011-03-01 Thread maggior
Phil Leigh;614751 Wrote: The secret with Aqualung is to get the RIGHT one... that was actually mastered from the master tapes not a 3rd gen safety copy on vinyl this meant a first UK pressing... now it means the Classic Records 2007 issue on CD it's way more complicated... you need

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2011-03-01 Thread magiccarpetride
Phil Leigh;614751 Wrote: The secret with Aqualung is to get the RIGHT one... that was actually mastered from the master tapes not a 3rd gen safety copy on vinyl this meant a first UK pressing... now it means the Classic Records 2007 issue on CD it's way more complicated... you need

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2011-03-01 Thread sebp
No doubt it's Red Hot Chili Pepper's Californication, which is total crap due to loudness wars. Couldn't believe my eyes reading on forums some albums even sounded louder than it... -- sebp 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/sebp)

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2011-02-25 Thread pski
Not for content, but the original release of Terrapin Station is truly horrible P -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is truly the Golden Age of Wireless pski's Profile:

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2011-02-25 Thread paulster
My pressing of Southside by Texas is awful. Really awful. Yet the vinyl is amazing sounding so it's not the fault of the recording. -- paulster paulster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23073

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2011-02-24 Thread Rodney_Gold
A cheap Cd of the original Mary poppins soundtrack , Pretty sure it was recorded off an a lousy record player playing thru lousy speakers - pops , crackles , hiss etc - really bad!!! -- Rodney_Gold TP/Z-sys RDP1 digital Pre/Meridian DSP5500's Or TP/DSP5500's Touch/Emotiva X-DA1 dac/ATC SCM

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2011-02-24 Thread Soulkeeper
My CD version of -Brothers in Arms- (Dire Straits) is pretty horrible. The drums sound like something from an overdriven 1980 PC speaker (the small speaker located inside the PC cabinet, not the attachable stuff that is audiophile in comparison). -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-02-24 Thread Phil Leigh
Soulkeeper;613480 Wrote: My CD version of -Brothers in Arms- (Dire Straits) is pretty horrible. The drums sound like something from an overdriven 1980 PC speaker (the small speaker located inside the PC cabinet, not the attachable stuff that is audiophile in comparison). The DVD-A version

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2011-02-24 Thread Wombat
Soulkeeper;613480 Wrote: My CD version of -Brothers in Arms- (Dire Straits) is pretty horrible. The drums sound like something from an overdriven 1980 PC speaker (the small speaker located inside the PC cabinet, not the attachable stuff that is audiophile in comparison). You may have one of

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2011-02-24 Thread ralphpnj
Before I answer I would like some clarification: Do you mean the worst sounding recording or the worst sounding music? To some this may appear to be a minor difference but for me this is a major difference. TIA! -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter -

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2011-02-24 Thread Mnyb
You lucky lucky bastards :-) Nothing worse than this yet... For old heavy metal fans try dio holy diver or any black sabbath. Or cure ? Or Sisters of mercy they excell in truly horrible recordings. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-02-24 Thread magiccarpetride
ralphpnj;613573 Wrote: Before I answer I would like some clarification: Do you mean the worst sounding recording or the worst sounding music? To some this may appear to be a minor difference but for me this is a major difference. TIA! Good question. My example (Weather Report Mr. Gone)

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