Hi
In the most recent Ct Bargin News. 9/11-9/18.. there is a picture of a berner pup for
sale..there is actually 2 at the pet store..it's in waterbury Ct. Don't have the
number on me but I wanted to get it out on the web..So sad...
Maura & Jeff
Maggie aka princess
beloved Dukie and Big Otis..fore
Hi Kelley,
If you could share the age of your dogs and the parents you might find
there are some half brothers and sisters and cousins on the list and that
might help you build a family background and help identify health issues
that those lines might be pre-disposed too. Contact your breeder and s
s. I am curious to see what types of
preventative testing is being done, what types of
diets are you feeding, and to find out what all the
health issues have been that have taken our precious
puppies from us.
Bart and Miki are exercised daily (their siblings are
Aspen and Marq (Basenjis), they
?? I didn't get Eileen's post for some reason?
Andie
Rose Tierney wrote:
Hi Eileen,
I'd have to question labelling this puppy as dominant. He may be defensive
or hostile, without observing the events leading to this display one cannot
define his true character. My interpretation of dominan
Hi Eileen,
I'd have to question labelling this puppy as dominant. He may be defensive
or hostile, without observing the events leading to this display one cannot
define his true character. My interpretation of dominant is a puppy that is
very sure of itself and wilful, not one who is quick to snarl
bmissive/reactive)
at the bridge with Arabian Horse- Sheba, gone but not forgotten
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> To: "Berner List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:42 PM
> Subject: snapping
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> She has talked to the breeder and she offered to take the dog back and
> refun their money, but I hate to think that a solution that drastic is
> called for. Has anyone had any experience with this?
I strongly recommend a "noth
All,
My friend the new Berner parent has been seeing some behavior that is
disturbing her in her new puppy, Orbo. He has now growled and snapped
several times at his 11 year old caretaker and her mother. Once when she
was taking off his leash, and a couple of times when they tried to put
him i
I can't find Audrey's original post to reply to, but we also rented
Equilibrium and counted not one, but three, Berner pups in the film. They
were all playing the same dog, but my husband insisted the markings were
different, so we had to go back and check them out. The first puppy looked
a *
In general (based on the experience that I wrote about earlier in the week),
preaching or lecturing is more likely to turn a pet store puppy purchaser
away from you rather than convert them to your point of view. You have
found, much as we have found, that it much more effective (although a slower
MY mom called the boys Lumberjacks. The nerve.
Can you train Berners to bite their grandmothers, I wonder?
Andie Reid and Tugboat (the dainty) and Steamboat (the graceful)
Cindy Reid wrote:
Speaking of Moms...mine also in the past has thought me crazy risking my
heart and wallet on this breed.
Speaking of Moms...mine also in the past has thought me crazy risking my
heart and wallet on this breed. We always had dogs from "backyard" breeders
or my Dad would trade a gun for a hunting dog, etc. After I married, all my
dogs found me...they needed homes and I took them in. My first Berner w
son, but I also
feel strongly regarding this subject and I am at a
loss as to how to enter into the topic of pet store
puppies. They are both so very proud of their pups and
the last thing I want to do is insult them.
How do I go about opening the topic without offending
them? Without it seeming a dir
Hi Tracey,
Don't be too hard on your Mom... Not so long ago it could have been
me... Our first Berner - and first dog - we bought from an ad. in a
local paper (1986). We knew zip about pedigrees, BYBs, or anything
really. Granted the learning curve was subsequently steep and fast,
but only becau
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We (Three Rivers BMDC in Western PA) placed several ads in December in
response to the Christmas sale of a Berner in a local pet store (Petland),
the first such sale in our area. The payoff for running the ads was a very
slight increase in requests for puppy/breeder information. [The ads in 2
new
Why not use:
"Bernese Mtn. Dog puppies. Call xxx-."
When you answer the phone line, just say that no puppies are available
at the moment, but you'll be happy to help answer any questions for
them, and to help them find someone else that may have puppies currently
available
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Would they accept wording such as:
"Bernese Mtn. Dogs, puppies occasionally available. Call xxx- or write
xx for
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reading the paper I noticed Bernese Mountain Dog puppies
advertised in our classified section. There are not many Berners or
Breeders in the Dakota area. Most of us know each other, know the breeders
and dogs. It seemed unusual that someone would need to try selling their
puppies through the
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vet
for analysis and you might choose to worm your puppy to be on the safe
side. I have had negative tests on puppies with loose stools and
problematic diarrhea and a course of Panacur at 1/2cc per kilo for three
days and then repeated three weeks later has done the trick. Parasites such
as whipworm
Customer Relations: Mon - Fri (6 am to 6pm); Sat (8 am to 3pm), MST
Toll Free Ph # - 800-237- (U.S./Canadian residents)
hm.. I see an 800 number here where we can be heard as well as
read.
Molly
I sent a letter to Cabala's - we regularly used to order from them, as well
as my son and his wife. I told them that we would take our business
elsewhere because of their irresponsible practice of selling puppies in
their store. This is the form response I got - they were soliciti
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inquiries. It is a reasonable list, if were actuate.
> NO responsible breeder would EVER sell their puppies this way with no
> control over the fate of their puppies. The only people willing to do
> something like this is commercial breeders (AKA puppy millers and back
yard
> breeders)
5:01 PM
To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List
Subject: Puppies in NJ pet stores
Just FYI, this past week, 2 pet stores in Central NJ have Berner puppies
for sale $1500. - the pet store at the Phillipsburg mall had a sign up -
not to purchase puppies from puppy miller. It said that all of their
p
Just FYI, this past week, 2 pet stores in Central NJ have Berner puppies for sale
$1500. - the pet store at the Phillipsburg mall had a sign up - not to purchase
puppies from puppy miller. It said that all of their puppies are from local breeders
and they do not support puppy mills. Can
I am interested in hearing from breeders who put such limitations (no
stairs, no walks, etc) on their puppies -- why is this done???
Personally I encourage my owners to let their dogs be dogs - lifting in and
out of vehicles only if they are tall and the pups are too small. My 14
week olds are
I think moderation is the trick with puppies, and even adult dogs. While I
do not think 8 week old puppies ought to walk three miles, the other extreme
is letting them do nothing at all. How does anyone live with a puppy who
does not exercise?! Stairs can be taught and managed so that small
I was contacted earlier today by someone asking if my sister, Cathee Arthur,
had a litter of puppies. This person had been told same by someone else,
who was absolutely positive Cathee had puppies.
For those of you in Southern California who may have heard this, I just want
to stop the rumor and
My cute little Hawkeye (we are oringinally from Iowa) is 5 mo old and #58. He is not
thin but looking tall and sleek. This is the first dog I have ever feed the BARF diet
to. My other two adult dogs are also participating. They are doing great with the
adult dogs eating 2% fo their body wt a
Hi Rose,
>She can be a good girl about going outside just
> that sometimes she likes to roll in "it".
My first ever Bernese Tinka I inherited at seven or eight years! She was
always immaculate except, anywhere near goose and duck shit, she would roll
and get it all yukked up around the left ear!
Hi,
I would think Food Inspectors would veto selling live animals in food
stores, given that processed meat cannot share space with freshly butchered
I doubt the living breathing pooping kind would be allowed!
Rose T.
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Subject: RE: Realities of puppies
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 06:58:49 -0400
Hi Jean,
"Pups naturally want to be clean!"
I'll tell Wilma th
On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 06:58:49 -0400 Rose Tierney
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Why is it that Murphy's law makes a grubby
> puppy a
> heavy coated one:-))
You bring up an interesting point which I consider to be a "dirt" gene. I
have a male that is very clean in many regards. He hates to get his
crust? Will Molly get it for me?
Must...take...nap...)
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Subject: RE: Realitie
Hi Jean,
"Pups naturally want to be clean!"
I'll tell Wilma that:-) She can be a good girl about going outside just
that sometimes she likes to roll in "it". This is the fondue puppy who dips
herself in mudholes. Why is it that Murphy's law makes a grubby puppy a
heavy coated one:-))
Rose T.
Hi John,
Five months is an approximation. Much has to do with the mental and
physical development of the puppy. There will be exceptions either side of
five months. Nothing is ever cast in stone:-))
Rose
> also I have read that to make the reward for going outside realy
effective,
> you should be present (at least the first few times) to make that reward
> IMMEDIATE with praise, otherwise, there is possibly confusion that the
> reward is for asking to go outside or something else.
Stick with that
Just had the ultra sound done and saw a minimum of 6 but our Vet felt there
was more as he did not clip her all the way so he could get clear to the
ends of each horn. He palpated her good after the ultra sound and was sure
he felt at least 7 or 8.
We are very pleased as this will be our first litt
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s based on many things including how full their bladder
is and how excited they are.
Having raised in excess of
twenty Berners it has been my observation that gifted puppies that can
cross their legs, until their eyes are floating, younger than five months
are a rarity.
How quickly do you t
to wait while awake for
it's owner to enter the house, deposit the groceries in the kitchen and get
the youngster outside or such similiar circumstances. Under five months and
getting puppy out in time is always a priority. Having raised in excess of
twenty Berners it has been my observation tha
I use the "newspapermethod". If the pup can have his/her own toilet
indoors, for a while, it will make the puppyhood so much easier for you all.
I do this too and even though they are now starting to ask to go out at 12
weeks, I still have one set of papers on the floor just in case my male
Hi,
I use the "newspapermethod". If the pup can have his/her own toilet indoors,
for a while, it will make the puppyhood so much easier for you all.
All bernerpups grows very fast and sooner or later they all will use the
outdoors toilet.
I think it takes a little longer time for boys, but all are
e while the puppy
is loose in the house.
John Engstrom
Plano, TX
Enzo - The 6 month old housetrained Berner
Schumi - The 4 month old Swissy who is slowly catching on
Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Jean,
Actually puppies do not have the ability to"hold it" until they
My most recent puppy housetraining experience was in keeping with the generally held
belief that puppies usually seem to "get it" (i.e., learn to "hold it")sometime
between 16-20 weeks. Up till then, it seems that the puppy parent is the one who's
"trained"...
Hi Jean,
Actually puppies do not have the ability to"hold it" until they are five
months old. What happens with these star pupil puppies is that their owners
are more vigilant:-)
Rose
I was reading a newspaper last night (the Express), and there was an
article about pet shops and supermarkets. The major chains see the pet
owning portion of the population as a lucrative source of income, and so
they are planning to open up exclusive pet centres selling pet foods and
accessories.
"jean cheesman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Takes gentle encouragement, take pup out and praise when goes outside!
If there's one thing that has helped me housetrain my two puppies (well, one
is housetrained and the other isn't yet old enough to have complete control
a
Hi Sherri and All,
>When I've brought puppies home at 8 weeks or so, they could not physically
>make it through the night without having to pee.
Too right! A wee pup brought home has to go when he/she has to go, takes a
few more weeks before bladder comes under control.
Best always
Has anyone read 'Your Outta Control Puppy' by Teoti Anderson? I came across
it on dogwise.com and thought about the bazillion people who posted me
privately about mouthy, challenging puppies. The review on the dogwise site
is given by Pat Miller and is very positive. When I followed t
the night, or at least
> only have one potty break, if you take them directly outside before and
> after, and immediately reward the sniff..piddle...poop sequence outdoors.
I've never found it quite that simple.
When I've brought puppies home at 8 weeks or so, they could not physic
>We have a drooler and he's a complete slob about drinking. First a few
>slurps then swings his head in a dripping arc to look around then slurps
>more then a five foot trail as he walks away from his bowl.
I've got one of those too, Susan, my Rescue Barney Boy. Now I now why he
arrived with blac
When we brought home all the puppies we've had, they were a little over
8 weeks and all the boys did just fine all night in the crate. They
never had to go out in the middle of the night unless they were sick,
and they all slept peacefully in their crates, with nary a yip. Now, we
did pu
As one who awaits their first Berner puppy (visit set for late June and
arrival home late July!!) , i have been reading with both excitement and
trepidation about all the joys and pitfalls... I was just wondering if folks
have any sense, scientifically based or not, as to WHAT might help a berner
Hi Julie,
The Bernese is said to be a dry mouthed breed but there will be exceptions.
Dogs with very loose flews can be more drooly and any dog with teeth
problems will drool. Bernese are usually fairly good on the no drool list
but anytime they anticipate a food treat or emotional distress they wi
We have a drooler and he's a complete slob about drinking. First a few
slurps then swings his head in a dripping arc to look around then slurps
more then a five foot trail as he walks away from his bowl. I keep a beach
towel next to the water bowl to mop up many times daily. As a puppy he
actual
Most Berners are dry mouthed but when anticipating food or a treat, or if the
weather is really warm, they can produce some very liquid drips. Rarely, if
ever, does a Berner produce the thick, ropy drool of the Newfies, Pyrs,
Saints. I have found that Flash, who is usually dry mouthed, has got
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From: "Julie E. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I'm new to the list. I am considering whether the berner is the right
> breed for our family. I have researched the dogs and have learned that
> SOME drool. If a dog is going to be a drooler, at what age does this
> ty
Julie,
Berners are suppose to be a dry-mouthed dog. It's up to the breeders to
chose correct breeding partners for their dogs to keep this good feature
in our future puppies.
A wet mouth comes from loose flews. The lower lips on the sides. If
they are loose/hanging then air gets in the
d for an older dog, too.
Don't be put off by "Performance" in the title, its for every pup.
Marjie
Beverly Arnold wrote:
> I would love to read about training methods that work with spirited puppies.
of course, but some do. I've seen a
Golden Retriever that drooled buckets - it happens. I've had 3 Berners, and two of
them were droolers. I think they were older when I found out, they didn't do it as
puppies. Hannibal drooled at the park when he got excited about being at t
Well, neither of mine has drooled spontaneously, like a Newf -- but hold up
a treat, and Djinn drools instantly! Stops as soon as she gets the treat.
Susan
>
> Some of the breeders may have a better answer for you, but I have NEVER
> seen a Berner drool.
Oh yeah - that black hair gets EVERYWHERE after a bath, doesn't it? In
your bed, in your food, up your nose... Gotta love it. :)
I've had three boys and not one of them has drooled, but I doubt I'd
care if they did. Absolutely right, though. If you're fastidious, a
Berner is not for you. But th
Hi,
Saw your post. All Berners are different, some drool a lot, others less. You
never know what kind of drooler your pup is going to be.
We have our third berner and we have never been thinking the drool is a
problem, even if there are a lot of drool making slippery floors in our
kitchen very ofte
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Subject: Re: what age do puppies start drooling?
Julie,
Some of the breeders may have a better answer for you, but I have NEVER
seen a Berner drool. If there are
Julie,
Some of the breeders may have a better answer for you, but I have NEVER
seen a Berner drool. If there are some that do, I'm sure it's rare. I've
been around plenty of them and have never seen any indication of
drooling. The ones I've seen have also been pretty neat about drinking.
Julie
Hi,
I'm new to the list. I am considering whether the berner is the right
breed for our family. I have researched the dogs and have learned that
SOME drool. If a dog is going to be a drooler, at what age does this
typically start? Can this trait be seen in the pups? For the dogs that
are drool
I would love to read about training methods that work with spirited puppies.
I have had dogs all my life and at times was completely befuddled with Han.
If I had been a newbe I might have given up. As it is, he is developing
into a wonderful dog. I have a list of things that I tried (some worked
When I posted about what a piranha Mercedes was as a puppy in reply to a
biting Berner post I got a lot of private posts from people with similar
situations. Several of these folks had kids as I did. I did my best to
describe what worked for us and probably forgot a lot in each individual
post.
yards long with 3-5
turns and aged at least 30 minutes.
I start tracking with my puppies very early and so Halo was about 9 weeks
when we started our training in December. One of the people who owns one of
Halo's littermates thought tracking sounded intriguing and although she had
never seen
I am in search of some general information. I have what we believe is a five
month old rescue male Bernese mix. He has a long sad story for such a young
guy.
The question is, what are safe distances for hiking with these young guys?
What about inclines? I generally hike in the mountains, and I do
Posted in plain text for Vilma:
>>I was wondering if anyone else has a problem with their pups getting
along.
Barum and Bailey are from different littersbut i am having some
sibling
rivalery problems if i separate them they cry for each other
Oh boy, you have two young p
ent: March 1, 2003 10:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Nuschi's puppies
I am pleased to announce after a week of digging to China under the deck,
porch, and both sets of stairs, Nuschi has finally "whelped" her beautiful
litter of 4 - hammer, Santa, blue bear, and duck. Not
Too funny, Molly! At first read, my mind immediately went to "how the heck
did she come up with those names?" Still not getting it I was amazed to
read she had "whelped" on your bed and you were still sleeping in it!
Good grief, I am a little slow today That's what happens when I run
out of co
I am pleased to announce after a week of digging to China under the deck,
porch, and both sets of stairs, Nuschi has finally "whelped" her beautiful
litter of 4 - hammer, Santa, blue bear, and duck. Not only has she whelped
this colorful litter that all make a different noise, she has done so o
the question.
I was asking because I am curious as to how far a PO feels a breeder should
go as far as financial obligation, even if the dog is given free of charge.
I have heard of breeder's selling a puppy to a person who then raises the
dog up, breeds the dog, sells the puppies, then the b
A puppy given with the expectation that the dog will be bred for puppies
back is hardly free. In the same way, a dog placed with the expectation that
he can be used for breeding by the original owner is also not a "free" dog.
I agree with Sherri -- "free dog" is a very compl
Hi everyone,
My First baby boy berner is coming home next weekend! I am so excited. I
have seen many "supply" lists for puppy readiness, but i figured i would
come to the experts. If anyone has the prefect berner puppy supply list
please let me know.
Thank you,
Jenn (and soon Charlie)
OK: I have to 'brag' a little bit to the 'group'. Things have finally 'settled' down
from whelping our first litter naturally. We had one, two years ago through c-section.
It was a LONG day ...from noon to about 10pm. But out of it 10 pups (Big ole
bruisers) with 8 surviving...even had one in
I was going to take a break from this list for a while. I have had positive
and negative experiences on this list as what we all experience in life in
general. However, this evening I had such a pleasant experience - I wanted
to share it with fellow Berner lovers and so I thought - ah go a head.
I love public television's series on domestic animals. This Sunday they are presenting
the Nature program called 'Dogs, the early years' at 8:00pm PST. Keep your eyes open,
Who can resist a cute puppy even when they aren't all Berners.
Jim LaFrom
San Jose,Ca.
now get out there and work dem workn'
onitor, buy, foster, and place a pet
store pup IF we can do so at a price that doesn't put profit in the seller's
pocket.
If you or your daughter would like to help in this process, let me know and
I'll send you/her some add'l information privately.
~ Sherri Venditti
Admittedly I am not an experienced dog owner, Tatty being my first, but
when researching where to get a puppy from none of the breeders we found
would take back puppies for any reason other than within 7 days if the
health check was negative (the legal state in France I believe). With the 3
Sad to say, the Berner-L may NOT be used for any commercial purposes,
and that includes attempting to sell puppies. In the agreement that you
accepted to be on this List, you will find explicit reference to this:
"The mailing list is not a place to find puppies or offer your dog for
m
trouble, "the boys" are from California
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: bathing--
I have a few hints for bathing your Berners in your bathtub.
First, Get yourself a rubber mat so your Berner feels secure in the tub.
There's nothing worse than a sliding Berner who is then leary of the whole
process. Winston loves to get a bath and jumps right into the bathtub
onto the rubbe
In a message dated 12/31/2002 8:49:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> So how did I do Vilma? Is this what you go through
> every 3 weeks??:)
Rhona,
Yeah, that's pretty much it! I think you got it all down, including the most
essential ingredient, a sense of h
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After weeks of not enough sleep and being a slave to the ten puppies, the
last one leaves today (except the one we are keeping). It is hard to say
good-bye to the little ones who have been my life for so many weeks, and I
wonder if all breeders cry over the missing puppies. I worked very hard to
Sharon let the puppy out of the crate, so to speak -- she is getting one of
the ten-pack. However, I do not ship puppies because I have seen mixed
results with it, and prefer not to take any chances at all with our babies.
Therefore, Sharon is coming to Utah (for the second time in a month!) to
and Hannah
Banana !
Puppy Lemon Law story , I have a suggestion. Yes , the pet store is the
story here , but people need to know that these puppies are no doubt coming
from puppymills. No reputable breeder would sell their puppies through a pet
store. Please , please do a follow up story on p
Here is a link to an article on allegedly sick pups
sold from a pet store in Northglenn, Colorado. It has
other interesting links at the end. This is not
Berner-specific but it is important information for
anyone looking for any breed of puppy, including BMD.
http://news4colorado.com/topstories/
Dino and the Blackcoral Berner Bunch
remembering Kru, Cozy, Sergio and Diver
Caldwell ID
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http://www.geocities.com/blackcoralberner/
>>> "Vicky Whitney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/21/02 04:40PM >>>
WAIT!! WAIT!! Read the whole letter before you get upset.
Yep you can be upset at t
WAIT!! WAIT!! Read the whole letter before you get upset. I really liked
this (but then I tend to be a little sarcastic ). I don't know who wrote
it but pass it on.
CHRISTMAS PUPPIES FOR SALE
by Ima Shyster
Its that time of year again. It is so hard to find an original gift.
Why not a
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