The gay marriage debate has caused me to reconsider government sponsorship of
straight marriage.
Marriage is a religious concept and government laws about _per se_ marriage
violate the no-establishment clause.
Government does need to regulate child custody, inheritance and so forth.
GU2 Defines them as Horst and Deemi.
We could probably add Easter to this list.
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Trent Shipley wrote:
GU2 Defines them as Horst and Deemi.
Yack! That escaped my grep! It's in Uplift War, Chapter 6
We could probably add Easter to this list.
Maybe. Or maybe not. Canaan bears the meaning of
a fertile place _after_ a desert. It would be a good name
for colonies that Earth
I wrote:
GU2 Defines them as Horst and Deemi.
Yack! That escaped my grep! It's in Uplift War, Chapter 6
But then it contradicts Heaven's Reach, where the Canaan Colonies were
taken by the Soro and Horst by the Tandu :-/
[another item for my list of contradictions...
Tom Beck wrote:
It's the word marriage that appears to have some mystical,
totemic meaning for some lamebrained lazyminded easily stampeded
credulous dolts (i.e., most of the American public).
Well, add me to list of dolts then, Tom. I find myself in that very boat; I believe
gays should
I know we have some music fans here, and I thought this might interest you:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7948-1000282,00.html
An excerpt:
A documentary about a heavy metal band, even one that has sold 90 million albums
since 1991, is hardly steak and chips for the art-house
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 09:43:12AM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
But the idea of calling it marriage does make me uncomfortable on
some vague level I can't really explain. Product of my environment,
Why should we care about your vague feeling? What gives you the right
to take your vague feeling
From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tom Beck wrote:
It's the word marriage that appears to have some mystical,
totemic meaning for some lamebrained lazyminded easily stampeded
credulous dolts (i.e., most of the American public).
Well, add me to list of dolts then, Tom. I find myself in
Erik Reuter wrote:
Why should we care about your vague feeling?
Where did I say you should?
What gives you the right to take your vague feeling of
uncomfortable that you can't explain and impose it on someone else?
And when did I do that?
What makes your vague feeling more important than
Jim wrote:
But the idea of calling it marriage does make me uncomfortable on some
vague level I can't really explain. Product of my environment, I
suppose.
I know the feeling, I used to feel that way. But after going over the
feeling again and again in my head and being unable to come up
Well, add me to list of dolts then, Tom. I find myself in that very boat;
I believe gays should have the right to official unions. Hell, why shouldn't
*they* have to have the prospect of giving up half their stuff and arguing
over who gets the coffee table if they break up same as
- Original Message -
From: Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?
From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tom Beck wrote:
It's the word marriage that appears to
Tom Beck wrote:
I can't stop you feeling what you feel, but you need to ask
yourself why you are so important that your feelings should be
permitted to ruin the lives and happiness of people you don't even
know.
Is there some bizarre meme that's infected the members of this list that
Is there some bizarre meme that's infected the members of this list that
dictates that every single person who dislikes something would *automatically*
impose his will on others because of it? Do you all simply have that low of
an opinion of everyone else that you assume that no one on the
Bryon Daly said:
That said, while the MA SJC ruling is an amazing
breakthrough, I wonder if it will in some ways harm the gay
marriage cause almost as much as help it.
I've thought about this too, and I've come down on the side of So what?
Would Rosa Parks have sat tight if she'd
Tom Beck wrote:
Sorry if we misread you. But most people weighing in on the anti-
gay marriage side of things appear that they very much WOULD impose
their views on the world.
Fair enough, Tom. But I'm not one of those people. Recall from my first message that
my sister's been in a comitted
At 10:31 AM 2/15/04, Jim Sharkey wrote:
There are a number of laws and concepts that I don't heartily agree with
that I also do not oppose, since I realize any difficulties with it are my
problem. A*** comes immediately to mind. It's not something I think
everyone ought to be doing in
=-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's the word marriage that appears to have some
mystical, totemic meaning
for some lamebrained lazyminded easily stampeded
credulous dolts (i.e., most
of the American public).
Gee, Tom, and to think that sometimes I wonder why I'm
a conservative. But I can
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 11:31:25AM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Honestly, the fact that I don't *like* something doesn't mean
automatically that I would stop others from doing it. Place some
weights on your knees so that they won't jerk so quickly next time.
Place a button on your lip (or a tie
In a message dated 2/15/2004 10:43:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why should we care about your vague feeling? What gives you the right
to take your vague feeling of uncomfortable that you can't explain
and impose it on someone else? What makes your vague feeling more
In a message dated 2/15/2004 10:46:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Somehow, I don't think their divorce statistics will be any worse than
those
of heterosexual marriages, but even if they are, so what?
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At 11:31 AM 2/15/04, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 11:31:25AM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Honestly, the fact that I don't *like* something doesn't mean
automatically that I would stop others from doing it. Place some
weights on your knees so that they won't jerk so quickly next
In a message dated 2/15/2004 10:46:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Somehow, I don't think their divorce statistics will be any worse than
those
of heterosexual marriages, but even if they are, so what?
My bet would be that lesbian marriages would last longer and
In a message dated 2/15/2004 11:58:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry if we misread you. But most people weighing in on the anti-gay
marriage
side of things appear that they very much WOULD impose their views on the
world
In a message dated 2/15/2004 11:58:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry if we misread you. But most people weighing in on the anti-gay
marriage
side of things appear that they very much WOULD impose their views on the
world
Sorry for the inadvertent send. I can't
From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 10:14:16 -0500 (EST)
A documentary about a heavy metal band, even one that has sold 90 million
albums since 1991, is
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FOOLish
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 15:12:43 -0600
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From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday,
And what are they doing with the Palestinians every day? They're
killing them. They're doing the same thing that was done to them
It's exactly like what Hitler did to the Jews.
Thsi guy is being investigated for anti-semtic remarks and will most
likely lose his job. However, how
From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Good and evil (was Re: Reviews for Mel Gibson's The Passion
of the Christ)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 08:04:58 -0800
Travis Edmunds wrote:
Travis Edmunds
This was an honest expression of concern and confusion that is shared by
many. I suspect and hope that over time people will get used to the idea but
for
now it does not do the cause of gay union any good to sharply casitgate
someone
for honestly expressed feelings.
If you don't
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:04:47PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry for the inadvertent send. I can't see how you could have misread
Jim's post in this way. It was clear to me what he meant. It was clear
he knew it was irrational. We need to allow people to describe their
feelings
Personally, I favor the idea of gay marriage. From my perspective, it
strengthens the concept of marriage by extending it. By accepting, one
broadens the acknowledgement of the lifetime commitment made by two people
(yea I know the commitment is often broken). Different types of families
are
At 12:32 PM 2/15/04, Tom Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It doesn't have to be vicious or rancorous,
Unfortunately, referring to most of the American public as lamebrained
lazyminded easily stampeded credulous dolts comes across as vicious and
rancorous, whether that was your intention or not.
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 12:57:32PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/15/2004 10:43:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why should we care about your vague feeling? What gives you the
right to take your vague feeling of uncomfortable that you can't
-Travis it's all about the Guns and the Roses
Edmunds
Eeee!!!
Damon.
=
Damon Agretto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html
Now Building:
Erik Reuter wrote:
Fine, he is entitled to his opinion, but I am damn well going to
reply sharply to people who make posts implying that their
unexplainable feeling of uncomfortable has any bearing on what
others should or should not be allowed to do.
Your interpretation of my initial
From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And Michael Harney wrote:
You say you can't explain why you feel that way... then doesn't
that lend you to think that your belief is likely an irrational
one. No offense intended, but should we bend towards an irrational
belief simply to make holders of
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 10:55:30 -0800 (PST)
-Travis it's all about the Guns and the Roses
Edmunds
Eeee!!!
Erik Reuter wrote:
I have yet to see a clear statement from him that Although I
have irrational feelings about gay marriage, by my words and actions
I do NOT support anti-gay marriage laws or constitutional
amendments.
This was not sufficiently clear?
I've always been a believer in people's
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:11:26PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If my questions were sharp castigation, then his statement was a lot
more than an expression of concern.
Nah.
Yah. You are applying a double-standard. Literally, I was asking
questions.
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 02:03:13PM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
However, since those who have responded have been about evenly divided
in their interpretation of my statement, I will concede that despite
my own read of my words, it is possible to interpret it as the
vehement opposition to gay
Michael Harney wrote:
There is a possibility that the issue of gay marriage may be
presented before the citizens of the United States for a vote. In
such a situation it doesn't take a big leap from not feeling
comfortable with gay marriages to voting against gay marriages. If
you really
- Original Message -
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:11:26PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Julia Thompson wrote:
I don't know what's common these days. Do the dark colors
include one somewhere between green and blue? :) (And would
that color be available in XL?)
I can certainly look. Last time I was in the local Hobby Lobby,
a few weeks ago, they had some XL shirts in some
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 02:10:59PM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
I have yet to see a clear statement from him that Although I have
irrational feelings about gay marriage, by my words and actions I do
NOT support anti-gay marriage laws or constitutional amendments.
This was
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:32:45PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
Read what he wrote that was unacceptable to you. He literally said he
had no right to impose his feelings, but that wasn't good enough for
you.
You're the one that needs to read more carefully. This is what I was
concerned about:
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 02:19:53PM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
I would vote against a law or Constitutional Amendment banning gay
marriage. But I will be honest with you. It would not necessarily be
a vote in favor of gay marriage per se, but it would be a vote against
telling people what
Travis Edmunds wrote:
Metallica fan eh? Care to divulge any other bands you like?
Sure. I'd say my all-time favorite bands are Rush, TOOL, Metallica, Yes, Iron Maiden,
Red Hot Chili Peppers, Pearl Jam and Queensryche.
I dig some of the current bands like Disturbed, Outkast, and No Doubt; I
- Original Message -
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:32:45PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
Read what he wrote that was unacceptable
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:42:57PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
Whenever I disagree with you?
No, when you are irrational and do not realize it, which occasionally
occurs when religion is part of the discussion.
--
Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:42:57PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
Right, the problem would be that Jim would be uncomfortable. That is
a problem, because she is his sister.
And if he has a problem with his sister, who he has just said (or
strongly implied) that he has good feelings for, one must
In a message dated 2/15/2004 1:34:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
many. I suspect and hope that over time people will get used to the idea
but
for
now it does not do the cause of gay union any good to sharply casitgate
someone
for honestly expressed feelings.
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 03:03:08PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But you did jump all over someone who expressed personal discomfort
with the notion of gay marriage at the end of a post that strongly
supported gay unions.
No. The post did NOT strongly support gay unions. It would be closer
In a message dated 2/15/2004 2:05:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
However, since those who have responded have been about evenly divided in
their interpretation of my statement, I will concede that despite my own read
of my words, it is possible to interpret it as the
On Sunday 2004-02-15 12:19, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Michael Harney wrote:
There is a possibility that the issue of gay marriage may be
presented before the citizens of the United States for a vote. In
such a situation it doesn't take a big leap from not feeling
comfortable with gay marriages to
Erik Reuter wrote:
Dan Minette wrote:
Right, the problem would be that Jim would be uncomfortable. That
is a problem, because she is his sister.
And if he has a problem with his sister, who he has just said
(or strongly implied) that he has good feelings for, one must at
least wonder, if not
I always imagined that at some point Charlene and I would face some
questions from the kids about why they live together, etc., but it hasn't
happened yet. Possibly because we don't treat their relationship any
differently than anyone else's, or possibly because even though our oldest
is
Jim Sharkey wrote:
Gay divorce is sure to follow Maru
Hm. I wonder what the gay divorce rate will be compared to the straight
divorce rate in 30 years. I imagine it'll be lower for awhile if gay
marriages are permitted. Not sure when it would catch up.
And I wonder how it would compare for
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 03:23:57PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Yes, but it can be done somewhat more gently than how it was done on
this list earlier today. And doing it more gently will get you a more
positive reaction than immediately jumping down their throat will.
Enough gentle prods
At 03:43 PM 2/15/04, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 03:23:57PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Yes, but it can be done somewhat more gently than how it was done on
this list earlier today. And doing it more gently will get you a more
positive reaction than immediately jumping down
- Original Message -
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?
At 03:43 PM 2/15/04, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 03:23:57PM -0600, Julia Thompson
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 03:55:58PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
I agree with Julia.
Boring.
As far as evidence goes: the next time you have a disagreement with
your spouse, try the strong statement method. Then, the next time
after that, try the soft answer approach. Assuming there is
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 04:32:36PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?
Yawn. You try it, I've got better
Gautam wrote:
=-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's the word marriage that appears to have some
mystical, totemic meaning
for some lamebrained lazyminded easily stampeded
credulous dolts (i.e., most
of the American public).
Gee, Tom, and to think that sometimes I wonder why I'm
a conservative. But I
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 03:23:57PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Yes, but it can be done somewhat more gently than how it was done on
this list earlier today. And doing it more gently will get you a more
positive reaction than immediately jumping
At 03:21 PM 2/15/2004 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote:
And I wonder how it would compare for the first 10 years with the rate
of divorces among the fundamentalists who are most loudly decrying it
now?
Of course, there is no way of knowing this.Since it is not a priori
true that a given
At 03:20 PM 2/15/2004 -0500 Jim Sharkey wrote:
I apologize if this seems like I'm putting forth my tolerance bona fides
here, but I've had a lot of accusations flung at me today that I felt were
unfair, and I thought maybe a little more information might give some of
you a better picture of me.
At 02:29 PM 2/15/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
Gautam wrote:
=-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's the word marriage that appears to have some
mystical, totemic meaning
for some lamebrained lazyminded easily stampeded
credulous dolts (i.e., most
of the American public).
Gee, Tom, and to
John D. Giorgis wrote:
At 03:21 PM 2/15/2004 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote:
And I wonder how it would compare for the first 10 years with the rate
of divorces among the fundamentalists who are most loudly decrying it
now?
Of course, there is no way of knowing this.Since it is not a
- Original Message -
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?
At 03:21 PM 2/15/2004 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote:
And I wonder how it would compare for the first 10
For whatever it is worth, it is a common meme among conservatives that
liberals consider themselves to be smarter than conservatives.
I don't consider myself necessarily smarter than anyone else. What I would
say is that liberals are much nicer people in their politics than conservatives
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 03:18:46PM -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
common among conservatives. We don't know The One Truth.
Ha!
that would be a good start. If John ever did the same (and I don't
think he ever would, because he's a _lot_ more polite than the people
on this list who abuse him
At 04:52 PM 2/15/04, John D. Giorgis wrote:
At 02:29 PM 2/15/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
Gautam wrote:
=-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's the word marriage that appears to have some
mystical, totemic meaning
for some lamebrained lazyminded easily stampeded
credulous dolts (i.e., most
of
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 04:48:57PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
It has been my experience that given a choice between one massive
hitting-over-the-head kind of confrontation
Although that would be an exaggeration of what I am talking about...
Yes, but in
At 05:59 PM 2/15/2004, you wrote:
For whatever it is worth, it is a common meme among conservatives that
liberals consider themselves to be smarter than conservatives.
I don't consider myself necessarily smarter than anyone else. What I would
say is that liberals are much nicer people in
On Sunday 2004-02-15 16:07, Dan Minette wrote:
- Original Message -
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?
At 03:21 PM 2/15/2004 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote:
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Political Baiting Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?
For whatever it is worth, it is a common meme among conservatives that
liberals consider themselves to be smarter
On Sunday 2004-02-15 15:48, Julia Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 03:23:57PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Yes, but it can be done somewhat more gently than how it was done on
this list earlier today. And doing it more gently will get you a
- Original Message -
From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: FOOLish
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 05:59 PM 2/15/04, you wrote:
At 05:59 PM 2/15/2004, you wrote:
For whatever it is worth, it is a common meme among conservatives that
liberals consider themselves to be smarter than conservatives.
I don't consider myself necessarily smarter than anyone else. What I would
say is that
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 05:46:09PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
But being in-your-face on an e-mail list doesn't work well, either.
Sometimes it does. At least as well as...
If I make 50 posts in a 6-month period that touch on X, and someone
is opposed to my position on X, there's a better
At 06:14 PM 2/15/04, Trent Shipley wrote:
Is there a conflict between standards for
honesty and truth on the one hand and satisfying relationships on the other.
Be honest: Does this dress make me look fat?
Yes I've Appeared Onstage In Drag But You Know What I Mean Maru
-- Ronn! :)
Erik Reuter wrote:
For example, even before I read your post I would have said the
reserved approach would be more successful on you (Julia). Alas, not
everyone is like Julia! ;-)
If they were, the accumulated niceness might just choke me. :)
Jim
Jim Sharkey wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
For example, even before I read your post I would have said the
reserved approach would be more successful on you (Julia). Alas, not
everyone is like Julia! ;-)
If they were, the accumulated niceness might just choke me. :)
Aw, heck, if everyone
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 05:46:09PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
But being in-your-face on an e-mail list doesn't work well, either.
Sometimes it does. At least as well as...
If I make 50 posts in a 6-month period that touch on X, and someone
is opposed to my
- Original Message -
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?
At 03:43 PM 2/15/04, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 03:23:57PM -0600, Julia Thompson
At 06:15 PM 2/15/04, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 05:46:09PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
But being in-your-face on an e-mail list doesn't work well, either.
Sometimes it does. At least as well as...
If I make 50 posts in a 6-month period that touch on X, and someone
is opposed
- Original Message -
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?
At 03:20 PM 2/15/2004 -0500 Jim Sharkey wrote:
I apologize if this seems like I'm putting forth my
Robert Seeberger wrote:
What is really bizarre about this thread is that everyone seems
to basically agree about Gay Marriage. This focus on
microscopic points of difference is amazingly like a Monty Python
sketch. Maybe the listname should be changed to The Argument
Clinic.
No it
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 06:40:28PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
And keep in mind that just because someone does not agree with you
on a topic does not mean that s/he has not thought about the topic,
perhaps at least as much as you have. I believe it was Dan who
mentioned that issues in
Gautam wrote:
Done with it? I certainly didn't _start_ it.
Not only did you start it, but that between the two of us, you're the only
one that has engaged in it.
But more characteristic? Certainly. That sort of
arrogant contempt for most Americans is far less
common among conservatives.
At 06:47 PM 2/15/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote:
What is really bizarre about this thread is that everyone seems to
basically agree about Gay Marriage.
That's only because the responses have been flying too fast for me to
collect my thoughts on the subject.
That, and the fact that Shrek is
Does anyone else like Orion's Arm?
http://www.orionsarm.com/main.html
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- Original Message -
From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?
Done with it? I certainly didn't _start_ it. But
more characteristic? Certainly. That sort of
Sorry about the lack of a subject line. My email bombed on me and I had
to copy the text from a backup and I forgot to title it. 8^P
--
Doug
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- Original Message -
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?
At 06:47 PM 2/15/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote:
What is really bizarre about this thread is
John wrote:
That's only because the responses have been flying too fast for me to
collect my thoughts on the subject.
Well don't keep us in the dark - I'd very much like to refu... I mean
_hear_ your side of the arguement. 8^)
That, and the fact that Shrek is on TV tonight :-)
Good movie,
- Original Message -
From: Trent Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 7:16 PM
Subject: SciFi site
Does anyone else like Orion's Arm?
http://www.orionsarm.com/main.html
I'm on their List.
Been there for about a year.
Very OnTopic
Does anyone else like Orion's Arm?
http://www.orionsarm.com/main.html
IIRC didn't someone on the list go fishing for RPG
ideas for this? Were you that person?
Damon, looks familiar...
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Damon Agretto
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Qui
In a message dated 2/15/2004 6:23:45 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry about the lack of a subject line. My email bombed on me and I had
to copy the text from a backup and I forgot to title it. 8^P
--
Doug
A possible subject line.
It relates to
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